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PFT: Murphy to Rosenhaus

By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Wednesday, July 15th, 2009 at 7:59 pm in Oakland Raiders.

Profootballtalk.com is reporting that Raiders fourth-round draft pick Louis Murphy has switched agents, dumping DeBartolo Sports for Drew Rosenhaus.

Rosenhaus divulged Murphy’s signing on his Twitter account.

With Murphy being a fourth-round draft pick, it’s not likely to change the landscape. Murphy has already drawn raves from coach Tom Cable and it’s conceivable he could have as much of an impact early on as Darrius Heyward-Bey, the No. 7 overall pick who was hamstrung by his hamstring in the offseason.

Murphy was one of the receivers reported by NFL Network as having attended an informal passing camp conducted by quarterback JaMarcus Russell, even though he had yet to sign a contract.

When Jerry Rice came to the Raiders last OTA practice, he talked up Murphy as a prize prospect.

Of course, at the time, Murphy was represented by DeBartolo Sports, which counts Rice as a valued employee.

In the end, Murphy will get what a fourth-round pick gets. Russell’s holdout aside, if recent history holds, he’ll be to camp on time regardless of his representation. The best Rosenhaus can hope for is fewer years or a void if statistical or playing time incentives are met.

A pre-camp admission _ the Raiders have such an impeccable reputation (other than Russell) for bringing all their picks in on time I’ll have a hard time worrying much about who signs and when until I get to Napa and they’re not there.

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357 Responses to “PFT: Murphy to Rosenhaus”

  1. gilbert Says:

    1st AL/RAIDER fan,in!

  2. HayesDaze37 Says:

    Ahhhh — A little news. Very little. Anybody hyperventilating yet?

  3. HayesDaze37 Says:

    Cool youtube highlights of Louis Murphy:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8DWXtNtyBLY

  4. gilbert Says:

    fellas,would love to be a fly on a helmet,and watch the wide out competition later this month,as well as rb,DL,LB,action!Bring it,A winning season,and will shut up naysayers,Raiders!!!!!

  5. BUSH29willtranscendDMAC20 Says:

    How many times is Papa gonna say “McFadden fakes a run throws to Darrius Heywardbey….. TOUCHDOWN RRRAAIIIDDDEERRRSSS” any takers??? over under is 2.5…..

  6. NoMoreFargas Says:

    The big question will Dmac & Bush throw more TD than fargas rushes for?

  7. HayesDaze37 Says:

    To DHB once. To somebody else, once. Two TD passes for DMC this year…

    And. the Chargers’ LT will be picked-off once trying to pitch one over Kirk Morrison’s head.

    How’s that for predictions?

  8. gilbert Says:

    post 7,Lester hayesdaze37,read youre posts always,Many I Dont!I like youre predictions,but what can WE all expect from all safeties,MM,TB,MH,HE,others?

  9. Raider O Says:

    Good evening Nation.

  10. Raider O Says:

    Hayes,

    Branch will start, and MM will share snaps with Huff at 1st, but before mid season MM will be the starter at SS. IMHO

  11. Raider O Says:

    NMF,

    LMAO he only has 1 rushing TD!!!

  12. Dude Says:

    Same humble opinion that said FJ would be on the club. Mitchell will be a STer and wont start a game all year. Branch and Eugene will start at SS and FS. Mike Mitchell is a you tube phenom, none of you know jack about the guy and anyone who claims to be in the know about him are simply talking out of their arse.

  13. RaiderDogg Says:

    Murphy will open a lot eyes this year.

  14. HayesDaze37 Says:

    Here are some of DHB’s awesome highlights. These highlights rival any other WR’s highlight reel coming out of college this year.

    DHB isn’t just fast…he’s football-fast. Lightning football-fast. The kid knows how to play.

    The Raiders could very well have THE NFL’s next great WR corps right now. Really.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1doAFxdxlRQ&feature=related

  15. Raider O Says:

    RD,

    He was a great pick in the 4th RD. He was rated as a top 10 WR by Dude’s experts. lol

  16. Raider O Says:

    If you don’t like my opinions, ignore them.

  17. Dude Says:

    ” The Raiders may very well have the NFLs next great WR corps, right now.” WOW!! Never ceases to amaze.

  18. Dude Says:

    You base your opinions on NOTHING so theyre hard to ignore. We already went round after round on the whole Franz Joseph thing and of course I was proved correct. How on earth can you predict that a guy you have NEVER, EVER seen play will be starting by week 4?

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  20. Dude Says:

    DHB wont even have 20 catches this year. Murphy wont have 10. But yeah, theyre in the all time grear discussion.

  21. He Hate Me Says:

    Start Garcia!!!!

  22. HayesDaze37 Says:

    Dude — youtube is one of the most popular and highly-used communications tools in use today. It allows people like YOU to have nearly instant access to information you may have never had before. Just 10-short years ago, we wouldn’t have this ability to see these vids without paying big $$ for tham.

    Exactly WHAT in the youtube vids of Mike Mitchell don’t you like?

    The fact he’s fast? The fact he has a nose for the ball? The fact he likes to hit?

    Those all seem like VERY good things to me. Especially for a team that’s been clamoring for a star Safety for years.

    MM could very well be a GREAT NFL Safety. People who just proclaim that some kid will never make it — without having ever seen the guy play — are simply closed-minded.

    Are you closed-minded, Dude?

  23. HayesDaze37 Says:

    Dude…troll — People saying a kid could have a great career is no different than you saying a kid has no chance.

  24. Dude Says:

    I like to stick with facts and performance results.

    Fact- MM never even made 3rd team ALL MAC Conference.
    Fact- MM wasnt even invited to the NFL combine.
    Fact- He graded out as a UDFA by almost every team in the NFL.
    Fact- That you tube highlight was maybe 4 hits replayed over and over at differnt angles and camera views.
    Fact- Youtube highlight are just that, HIGHLIGHTS. Any freakn college safety could have a highlight film made that would be impressive.

    Tell you what though, wouldnt surprise me at all if Al Davis and his fellow genious’s actually used Youtube to scout college guys.

  25. Dude Says:

    I never said he has no chance, I am only saying anyone who claims he is gonna be great simply are talking out there arse.

  26. Raider O Says:

    Dude,

    I said mid season!! How do you get week 4 out of that?!?!

    Do you know how to count, or do you think the season is 8 weeks?

  27. HayesDaze37 Says:

    HYPOCRITE ALERT HYPOCRITE ALERT HYPOCRITE ALERT

    Dude Says:

    How on earth can you predict that a guy you have NEVER, EVER seen play will be starting by week 4?

    Dude Says:

    DHB wont even have 20 catches this year. Murphy wont have 10. But yeah, theyre in the all time grear discussion

    —————————————-

    So Dude…troll — How is it nobody can predict a guy will start…but YOU can predict a guy won’t make 10 or 20 catches…

    …having “NEVER, EVER seen” them play?

    HYPOCRITE ALERT HYPOCRITE ALERT HYPOCRITE ALERT

  28. Dude Says:

    Shut up O and quit splittn hairs. I didnt scroll back up and see EXACTLY when you said he would start. The point is you dont know sheet about the kid and to predict an at best avg MAC player to start in the NFL is freakn stupid.

  29. Dude Says:

    Seen both of em play in college.

    IDIOT ALERT!! IDIOT ALERT!!

  30. gilbert Says:

    Im simply saying,WHO says ALL posters are Raider fans?Co workers talk about crashing other teams websites for Fun,but of course that would NEVER happen,here,right! S disturbers I say some are niners,horseheads,dischargers,chefs,whatever,RAIDERS!!!!!!!

  31. Raider O Says:

    You are asking someone to shut up on the Internet? Tough man!!

    Listen here you little monkey, I’m done with you! You were fun, but all you do now is whine and complain!!

  32. Dude Says:

    Seriously man, do you even have a clue as to how REDICULOUS you soumd when you say sheet like you said about the WRs?

  33. Dude Says:

    All you do is predict sunshine and lolipops. Every Raider draft pick will be GREAT! The Raiders will have 10 Pro Bowlers in ‘09! UDFAs will start this year! Your a freakn joke and I will dog you till the day you step into reality.

  34. Dude Says:

    Oh and calling you retards out for your dumb ass comments isnt “whining” or “complaining”.

  35. Raider O Says:

    Ain’t no sunshine when dude is here!!

  36. HayesDaze37 Says:

    Mike Mitchell…just to pi$$ off the troll/s:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aV5UCELLTAs&feature=related

  37. Dude Says:

    ” Hey man, Stryker Sulak is the next Howie Long. IMHO” Raider O.

  38. Raider O Says:

    If we are retards, then why do you care so much about our dumb comments?

    Are you a Retard too?

    A retarded Monkey!! Great! That’s exactly what we need in this blog.

  39. Dude Says:

    Hayes,

    Notice you didnt care to respond to all the facts I posted. Its ok, keep living in your lil dream world.

    Question for you though- How is it he couldnt even get himself on the All MAC 3rd team??

  40. Dude Says:

    Its fun watching you fools embarass yourselves every day.

  41. Raider O Says:

    It’s fun watching you post monkey! You don’t see that at the zoo!

  42. Dude Says:

    Heres on for you boys…. Does it even matter WHO the Raiders draft, your just gonna predict stardom no matter what??

  43. Dude Says:

    LOL!! Raider O, you are such a freakn geek.

  44. Dude Says:

    At least you stick around no matter what O, Hayes runs like a bitch every time hes pressed.

  45. HayesDaze37 Says:

    Great Raiders Lester Hayes and Cliff Branch aren’t in the HOF, either…that doesn’t mean they don’t belong there.

    Not getting picked for an all-star game…is not the deciding factor in how good a kid’s pro career will be. If fact, it may just spur him on to greater things.

    And, Dude…troll — What “facts” did you throw at us earlier? Something you and KK worked up in head-thickening class? Telling us something we already know? Or making something up to fit your argument? Very original.

  46. Raider O Says:

    I like you too little Monkey! lol

  47. gilbert Says:

    Raider O,YOU dont pay attention to post 30,just consider it,calm down,young fella,Hayes37,keep sticking it to them,got youre back,as do most hereRAIDERS!!

  48. Dude Says:

    If he is such a good player, stands to reason he would be named to the All Conference team, especially in a garbage conference like the MAC. No??

    Scroll up and read em for yourself

  49. HayesDaze37 Says:

    Dude…troll — Everybody on the forum knows I don’t “run” from anybody. To suggest I run from you is even funnier.

    When you gonna get tired of this name and switch?

  50. Raider O Says:

    Gilbert,

    I read it, but he knows too much not to be a fan! lol

  51. Dude Says:

    Your running right now bitch. When you run out of answer you revert to the “troll” comments and the “name switch” stuff. Run Forest run!

  52. Raider O Says:

    Kiss the Rings Baby!!

  53. Dude Says:

    Cause ANYONE who dznt think Al Davis is gad MUST not be a fan.

  54. Dude Says:

    Dust em off so I can see the engraving.

  55. HayesDaze37 Says:

    Thank you kindly, Gil.

    Raiders forever!

  56. Raider O Says:

    lol @ 54. That’s funny!

  57. Dude Says:

    “Raiders forever” LMFAO!

    Run Forest, run!!

  58. Raider O Says:

    Gilbert,

    Kiss the Rings!
    I say it to dischargers fans all the time!

  59. Raider O Says:

    I’m going to run too!

    Good night Hayes, Gilbert, and little monkey AKA Dude. lol

    Later Nation.

  60. Raider O Says:

    I almost forgot.

    Raiders Forever!

  61. HayesDaze37 Says:

    Dude Says:

    Your running right now bitch. When you run out of answer you revert to the “troll” comments and the “name switch” stuff. Run Forest run!

    —————————————

    Dude…troll — I’ve never before asked you when you were going to switch to another one of your aliases. You just get confused, since you get hammered from so many angles sometimes.

    Oh, my…you called me a name! What a tough guy. So juvenile and easy. Call me more names…it reminds me so of KK (who’s lurking, just waiting to pounce clumsily)!

  62. jhill Says:

    Branch is not going to start. Even Cable said he was most missed as a ST gunner, and your STs gunner does not usually start at S. At least I can’t think of one other example where a STs gunner doubles as the teams starting S.

    Nnamdi and Morrison seem to think that Huff is starting at S based on what has been going on this offseason. I think I will take their word for it.

    And say what you want about Mike Mitchell, he was a 2nd rd pick that should be on the field. Will he win that job? If not, maybe he will be the new STs gunner. But the 2nd rd pick will get every opportunity to fall on his face in real games, believe that.

    I think you will see Huff and Mitchell at S to start the season.

  63. Dude Says:

    “When are you going to get tired of this name and switch?” HayesDaze37 post #49

    Keep on running boy.

  64. jhill Says:

    keyword = before

  65. Dude Says:

    If Mike Mitchell is such a good player, why couldnt he even make 3rd team All MAC?

  66. Dude Says:

    Keyword= sign that hes running

  67. Dude Says:

    I bet there isnt an NFL player from the MAC who wasnt at least 3rd team All Conference.

  68. gilbert Says:

    Raider O,You give dude/mrs/mr and others credit,they are not positive about this team,lets let the season play out,see if the naysayers are right,Love for a bet to happen,just have to have a way for COLLECTION,cuz RAIDERS will prevail @ 9 and 7 or better! Bets-gents

  69. Dude Says:

    How long you been predicting that Gilbert? LOL!!! Shut your hole, speak when spoken to.

  70. HayesDaze37 Says:

    Dude…troll — I never BEFORE asked when you would switch to another one of your names.

    You’re as perceptive as you are dense, I see.

    (Note the proper use of “you’re” as opposed to your “your” too. I actually know how to formulate words and sentences that make sense in English. Get back to me when you do…we might have a real discussion sometime.)

  71. jhill Says:

    I bet there isnt an NFL player from the MAC who wasnt at least 3rd team All Conference.

    ——————————————————

    Sure there is. 2nd rd pick of the Oakland Raider, S Mike Mitchell.

  72. Dude Says:

    Run run run…. Its pretty pathetic actually.

    Answer the question bitch.

  73. Dude Says:

    #71-Well done.

  74. HayesDaze37 Says:

    Well, that sure was fun. I’m out for awhile.

    It’s a great night to be a Raiders fan! Isn’t it?

  75. Dude Says:

    LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Thats right bitch, run along. Even that clown Priest puts up a better fight than you.

  76. priesttj Says:

    If Mike Mitchell is a player then what? you’ll run and hide?

  77. gilbert Says:

    69 ,MRS,and the bet is ????????? 9er fan,p–ss- Please put youre money where youre fat mouth is,girl! Im trying to be nice like Raider O is,but he has more CLASS than I do RAIDERS!!!!!!!!!

  78. HayesDaze37 Says:

    Umm…troll — Were we fighting about something? I wanna enjoy me buzz and me fine woman (you ever been near one who wasn’t your probation officer?).

    If you’ve got an argument, I’ll give it another minute. If it’s just “you guys can’t wish anything good on the team,” then I’ll have to pass. There are WAY more enjoyable things than that to think about.

    So — take a shot…but calling me names won’t make me change me mind, so why even go there?

    Simply because YOU’RE lonely doesn’t mean I need to give you the stroking you need. KK will be here anytime for that.

  79. priesttj Says:

    Also while we don’t know if there’s soomeone from the MAC in the NFL who wasn’t 3rd team. We do know that there are many players in the NFl who were very late bloomers in college who ARE in the NFL and are productive even starters. Matt Cassell being the most recent.

    Because you weren’t the BMOC doesn’t mean you wont develope late and also be great.

  80. priesttj Says:

    Often times thse who are very prductive in college even dominated don’t do as well as UDFA we see that all the time. So the afct that MM didn’t distinquish himself in college means ZERO.

  81. priesttj Says:

    Terrell Davis was virtually unknown he went to camp and tore it up. Some say he will be in the HOF. At least MM had more attention than he got. MM is a freak if he can make it translate on an NFL field WATCH OUT!!

  82. gilbert Says:

    Priesttj,are you aware of the 16 game season being expanded to 17 or 18 reg games? Anyway,Im out! Jump in earlier next time,RAIDERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  83. priesttj Says:

    I must’ve scared Duddle away.. well good riddance.

    My take on our safeties is that the young guy’s will be given every chance to show what they can do. I happen to like what Tyvon Branch brings t the table as well as Mitchell and I’m on record of supporting that pick on the spot.

    Can’t wait to see what he does in pads. I saw Ronnie Lott up close at USC, I’ve only seen Mitchell on the youtube highlight reel and I was awestruck. The things he did and the way he did them was striking. We had a safety named Stacy Toran who hit like that but he couldn’t run like that. Stacy was very intimidating if he had Mitchell’s speed and range he would’ve been another great safety. Mitchell has that kind of ability. Now let’s see if he can harness it and use it use it effectively.

  84. priesttj Says:

    I don’t think it has been decided on yet but it does seem eminent.

  85. THREE RING CIRCUS Says:

    FIRST OF ALL MM HAS NOT PLAYED AN NFL DOWN YET. SO COMPARISONS TO LOTT OR TATUM NEED TO BE THROWN OUT.

  86. Moose Says:

    Chip Vaughn ?

  87. THREE RING CIRCUS Says:

    its all about mcfadden period.

  88. La Milicia Negra Says:

    —”over the last 15 years some unfortunate circumstances have caused the Raiders some decent records. We should’ve won more games the last two years bad decisions have cost us. On the coaches and the owner Kiffin sold us up the river. He could’ve won he didn’t care. But that does against Mr Davis. Hopefully Cable can take the talent he has and produce with it. We’ll see.”—

    BHP…

    what does that even mean? it makes NO SENSE WHATSOEVER!!

    “unfortunate circumstances have caused the Raiders some decent records” please elaborate, what do you mean?

    “On the coaches and the owner Kiffin sold us up the river” ahem? say what now???

    “But that does against Mr Davis.” what does, against Al? and what does that even mean?

  89. La Milicia Negra Says:

    It feeds
    It grows
    It clouds all that you will know
    Deceit
    Deceive
    Decide just what you believe

    I see faith in your eyes
    Never your hear the discouraging lies
    I hear faith in your cries
    Broken is the promise, betrayal
    The healing hand held back by the deepened nail

    Follow the God that failed
    _____________________________________________________

    a song about the YES-sayers and the Al-worshipers..

  90. RaiderRockstar Says:

    The big question will Dmac & Bush throw more TD than fargas rushes for?

    ***

    LOL!

    Very Nice, NMF …

  91. RaiderRockstar Says:

    good morning LMN, Moose, circus …

  92. DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL Says:

    GOOD MORNING SPORT’S FAN’S, L M N. IT IS JUST PART OF THE DEAL BOY’S AND GIRL’S.. IF U LOVE THE OAKLAND RAIDER’S . AL IS PART OF THAT PKG.LIKE IT OR NOT. NOTHING ME,U OR ANYONE CAN DO ABOUT IT.

  93. RaiderTW Says:

    Mornin’ mornin’ crew….I haven’t seen any of the rookies except a few youtube vids but I still have a lot of positive hope for this season. Been a fan since ‘67 so I’m not a nubie nor am I so cynical all I do is b!tch about the last 6 yrs. Just sayin’ I have a lot of hope for the 2009 season.
    9-7 wins the west!!!

  94. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Nnamdi and Morrison seem to think that Huff is starting at S based on what has been going on this offseason. I think I will take their word for it.

    I think you will see Huff and Mitchell at S to start the season.

    ***

    Agreed Jhill. I’m still a little suspicious though. It was Al Davis who said we want to see more of Mario Henderson & Michael Bush, not Tom Cable … who do we know that if Cable was running the entire show Kwame Harris & Justin Fargas wouldn’t still be on scholarship or even retain their starting jobs!?

    Hiram Eugene is on scholarship. believe that. Michael Huff is going to have to tear it up in training camp to steal away that FS job. If Mitchell can’t learn the defense quick enough or recover from the hamstring injury to make an impact in camp I think you’ll see Tyvon Branch starting at SS (Week 1). Otherwise Mitchell replaces Wilson and it’s his job to lose

  95. RaiderRockstar Says:

    good morning Dirt Lot, TW …

    Aloha Hwnrdr! i’m still bitter. I think i’ll make my wife put on a hoola skirt and dance for me and serve me those fruity girl drinks with an umbrella. It’ll feel like i’m there :)

  96. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    I will be pleased with a .500 record, especially if the team plays hard and improves through the season. This is a new mix of coaches, systems and young players. If they can stick together long enough to get some confidence, it could steamroll eventually.

  97. DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL Says:

    ROCKSTAR,T.W. GOOD MORNING. WELL SAID T.W.POST-93,GUESS WE R KOOL-AID DRUNK 4 TRY’N TO HAVE A SEMI-POSITIVE OUTLOOK..

  98. RaiderTW Says:

    Look at this, O finnally shows some temper & gets fed up, good work O!!!lol

    Raider O Says:
    You are asking someone to shut up on the Internet? Tough man!!

    Listen here you little monkey, I’m done with you! You were fun, but all you do now is whine and complain!!

  99. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    You should have seen the knuckle sandwich Raider O was trying to serve RRS a week ago…

  100. RaiderRockstar Says:

    I will be pleased with a .500 record, especially if the team plays hard and improves through the season. This is a new mix of coaches, systems and young players.

    ***

    good morning BSJ. agreed. Tom Cable as HC, play caller and OL coach for a full year last year would have netted us an extra 3 wins imo, despite the putrid run defense. At least then Russell would have had some continuity in the staff, and the OL wouldn’t have had their asst coach (who was handed the reigns mid season) bail on them!

  101. RaiderTW Says:

    BSJ, did he call him SIR!!! lol
    I told O he’s far too nice to the trolls (dude,MR,Narc) these guys aren’t even Raider fans but he responds to them. RRS, what did you say? O lost his temper???? I’m going out to meet him next week, should be fun.

  102. RaiderRockstar Says:

    You should have seen the knuckle sandwich Raider O was trying to serve RRS a week ago…

    ***

    Raider O and I are like the Bosom Buddies. what are you talking about? He just got inducted/enshrined to the AM crew crew yesterday!

  103. La Milicia Negra Says:

    Dirtlot…

    we can wait… thats what we can do… as lions fans waited for Matt Millen to be fired, so can we wait… not much else to do..

  104. RaiderTW Says:

    I can’t tell what O likes most. The Raiders or posting about the Raiders! He was here until 10:30 pm.

  105. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Louis has a great opportunity to contribute to the Raiders receiving core this season. He has been very impressive in the offseason workouts and camps.

    -Drew Rosenhaus

    ***

    Will Louis Murphy be a starter by the end of the season?

  106. NoMoreFargas Says:

    What’s up fellas I sure hope Murphy ain’t trying to get crazy dough I have such high hopes for him.

  107. RaiderRockstar Says:

    RRS, what did you say? O lost his temper???? I’m going out to meet him next week, should be fun.

    ***

    the same hot topics everybody talks about when it’s a slow NFL news day. race, religion, politics, animal rights. LOL. We’ve had our disagreements, but I respect Raider O and value his comments about the Raiders and/or football in general

  108. RaiderRockstar Says:

    According to Christopher Price of WEEI.com, the Pats have agreed to terms, on a preliminary basis, with offensive lineman Sebastian Vollmer.

    Vollmer was the fourth of the team’s second-round selections.

    Christopher Gasper of the Boston Globe has reported that a deal between Vollmer and the Pats is close.

    Vollmer worked at both left tackle and right tackle during offseason practices.

    ***

    so much for getting Vollmer in a trade for Derrick Burgess!

  109. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    Yeah LMN, all that waiting must be tough on you…

    kind of like watching soccer.

  110. La Milicia Negra Says:

    RRS…

    well, i predict Murphy to contribute far more than DHB..

  111. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    so much for getting Vollmer in a trade for Derrick Burgess!

    :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

    Unless Vollmer’s unsigned status was holding up the deal.

  112. RaiderRockstar Says:

    well, i predict Murphy to contribute far more than DHB..

    ***

    and I predict Heyward-Bey to contribute far more than Javon Walker!

  113. exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:

    Morning All,
    I don’t trust Drew Rosenhaus. Scoops up Murphy when he shows promise. Guess DeBartolo did’t have a good contract with him.

  114. RaiderTW Says:

    Waht’s up LMN aka “Don’t call me a fairweather fan”? lol

  115. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Jerry Rice thinks Louis Murphy is a player. Cris Carter worked with him prior to the draft.

    hmmm…

    Maybe this kid did have 2nd round quality?

    perhaps another 4th round steal, like Michael Bush?

  116. exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    July 16th, 2009 at 6:55 am
    Jerry Rice thinks Louis Murphy is a player. Cris Carter worked with him prior to the draft.

    hmmm…

    Maybe this kid did have 2nd round quality?

    perhaps another 4th round steal, like Michael Bush?
    ————————————————
    Can’t be true. Warren Sapp didn’t say so. LMAO

  117. DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL Says:

    SO WHO DO WE BELIEVE CHRIS CARTER ABOUT, DHB OR LOUIS MURPHY ?

  118. RaiderTW Says:

    Wouldn’t it be great if 4-5 of our WRs surpassed Crab this season. How long will it take Crab to get on the field? I want to see Schilens emerge.

  119. exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:

    PREDRAFT

    Louis Murphy, WR, Florida

    Height: 6-2 WR Rank: 9
    Weight: 203 Overall Rank: NA
    Year: Sr 40 Time: 4.43

    Top 4 teams likely targeting Louis Murphy.
    Team # Drafts %
    Philadelphia Eagles, Pick 85 4 7.8
    Tampa Bay Buccaneers, Pick 81 4 7.8
    Philadelphia Eagles, Pick 53 3 5.9
    Indianapolis Colts, Pick 61 3 5.9

  120. RaiderRockstar Says:

    SO WHO DO WE BELIEVE CHRIS CARTER ABOUT, DHB OR LOUIS MURPHY ?

    ***

    I don’t think Cris Carter knows much about DHB. He didn’t work with him, like he worked with Murphy. He didn’t say DHB will be a bust. I think he was more slamming the Raiders for taking a size/speed guy over production and I think a lot of Raider fans were shocked and/or disappointed as well on draft day for the same reasons. They slammed us just as bad for drafting Mitchell, but it wasn’t as big of a deal because he’s not making Top 10 draft pick money

  121. NoMoreFargas Says:

    Dirt-Lot don’t you know most fans on here hate a guy if he bad mouths us and that guy is a hater but if said guy say’s good thinks he is a smart football guy.

  122. La Milicia Negra Says:

    # RaiderTW Says:
    July 16th, 2009 at 6:53 am

    Waht’s up LMN aka “Don’t call me a fairweather fan”? lol
    _____________________________________________________

    not much, im a bit bored of this stage in the tour, though we have a dane on a break-away…

    he self righteous HD37, really shot himself in the foot with that one =) well thats nothing new =)

  123. NoMoreFargas Says:

    Cris Carter must accept he ain’t Jerry Rice and will never be.

  124. exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:

    Louis Murphy predraft was considered to be a 2nd rd pick. He was a steal for the Raiders.

    “Louis Murphy, WR, Florida
    Murphy projects extremely well to the next level and there is every reason to think that he will have a better career as a pro than as a Florida Gator. That’s not to say, however, that his time in college has been a bust. Murphy hauled in 37 passes for 548 yards and five touchdowns as a junior in 2007. In his Florida swansong he had 38 receptions for 655 yards and seven touchdowns, including the game-clinching score against Oklahoma in the BCS National Championship. The wide receiver is a significant home-run threat (as seen in his yards-per-catch average) and he will thrive on any NFL team that has a quarterback who loves throwing the deep ball. Florida, however, used a lot of gadget plays with Tim Tebow and Percy Harvin and rarely went deep, so Murphy was a bit overshadowed. With a rare blend of size (6′2” and 205 pounds) and speed (around 4.3 in the 40-yard dash), Murphy can burn cornerbacks down the field or go over them if they happen to stay with him stride for stride. He has first-round talent, but he won’t be able to overpower cornerbacks who jam him at the line of scrimmage and his hands are simply adequate, but not flawless. Right now Murphy looks like he’ll be off the board before the end of the second round in this month’s draft.”

  125. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Can’t be true. Warren Sapp didn’t say so.

    ***

    LOL!

    “Wouldn’t it be great if 4-5 of our WRs surpassed Crab this season.”

    I’d be happy if ANY of our WR’s surpass Crabtree this season. He’s a dynamic player. Hopefully Heyward-Bey proves to be equally, if not more so dynamic

  126. CJ Legend 34 Says:

    WAKE UPPPPPPPPPP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Man it is really getting crazy on the blog. Guys are going back in forth double doging each other. Calling guys haters, monkeys, trolls, etc.

    You guys really need football saeason to start ASAP!

    You have to accept the fact that we have a problem or we would not be on the blog in July. We need football, we need Raider football! Win or loose we keep looking for the silver and black lining in the sky. In our minds every draft pick could be the next great because we are so hungry for victory. Don’t turn on your Raider brother or sister. Don’t get all negative and blog slap happy just wait for a better day.

    Rock on man!!!!

  127. RaiderRockstar Says:

    good morning Exla, NMF, CJ …

  128. RaiderTW Says:

    I’d be happy if ANY of our WR’s surpass Crabtree this season
    ——-
    Could happen RR, Crab might not get on the field anytime too soon.

  129. La Milicia Negra Says:

    # NoMoreFargas Says:
    July 16th, 2009 at 7:09 am

    Cris Carter must accept he ain’t Jerry Rice and will never be.
    ______________________________________________________

    true, but if just any of our WRs became half as good, i would be very pleased, he was a damn good player.. and a huge reason to why culpepper seemed good..(which he wasnt)

  130. La Milicia Negra Says:

    # RaiderTW Says:
    July 16th, 2009 at 7:23 am

    I’d be happy if ANY of our WR’s surpass Crabtree this season
    ——-
    Could happen RR, Crab might not get on the field anytime too soon.
    _____________________________________________________

    I don think DHB will surpass him, but that Murphy and/or Schilens have a pretty decent chance, footfractures is a b1tch…

  131. La Milicia Negra Says:

    http://www.raiders50thseason.com/

  132. exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:

    Morning RaiderRockstar,
    Lived in Mpls when Carter was there. He made a few QB’s look good. Amazing he played as a Viking with Wade Wilson, Rich Gannon, Sean Salisbury,Jim McMahon,Warren Moon, Brad Johnson, Randall Cunninham, Dante Culpepper and the renowned Spurgon Wynn.

  133. OAKlifer Says:

    Morning Nation!!!!!!

    “You have to accept the fact that we have a problem or we would not be on the blog in July. We need football,”

    lol I need more work!!!! I love my football but I only blog between 530-2

  134. OAKlifer Says:

    OAK,

    Show San Diego some love bro!!
    What about Mitchy Slick, little Mitchy, Big June, and Sabotawj?

    San Diego baby !! home of Reggie Bush
    We grow the best purple and a killer Cush!!
    later bro.
    ************************

    I get in trouble going to far south!!! LOL but mad ups to the south they doin it to 1westmovement It’s not about this hood or that hood its about a movment!! Oregon, Cali, Washington, Victoria, we all in on this!!!

    *************************

    PLAYOFFBOUND!!!!!11

  135. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    Southwick’s winding journey leads to Raiders’ mini camp
    By Josh Sine • For the Spectrum & Daily News • May 18, 2009

    Danny Southwick definitely taken the road less traveled.

    It may sound trite or cliché, but the former Dixie State quarterback’s path to the Oakland Raiders’ three-day mini-camp that started Thursday has been unconventional at best.

    But he has always had a master plan.

    The plan started at the D-I college football player production factory that is Timpview High School.

    As a junior in 1998, Southwick was forced into play late in the season and performed well under pressure. This experience translated directly into one of the best senior years a high school quarterback in the state of Utah had ever had.

    “It was like a dream come true,” Southwick said of his senior year. “All the hard work paid off and the game came easy to me.”

    In the Thunderbirds’ West Coast offense, Southwick threw for 3,200 yards and just under 30 touchdowns and received letters and scholarship offers from over 60 programs from major conferences.

    However, there would be no bidding wars, as Southwick knew exactly where he wanted to be.

    “I was a Provo guy who wanted to be a part of the Brigham Young tradition,” he said. “To work with legends like Coach (Lavell) Edwards and Coach (Norm) Chow would have been amazing.”

    So he selected the Cougars coming directly out of high school.

    However, he did not enroll until after serving a mission for the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.

    This is where the plans change.

    After his mission, a coaching change at BYU deterred Southwick from returning to Provo. A number of suitors returned with letters and scholarships, and Southwick selected Dennis Erickson and Oregon State.

    A couple of weeks after enrolling in Corvallis, Ore. Coach Erickson left for the NFL and left Southwick with another hiccup in his plan.

    “I was impatient, and decided to transfer to Dixie State,” Southwick said.

    The move was sudden and close to the season opener for Dixie.

    While with the Rebels, Southwick threw for over 2,000 yards and led the team to the Junior College National Championship game and back-to-back top-five finishes.

    “When he was hot, he was as good as anyone I’ve ever coached,” said former Dixie State coach Greg Crowshaw. “Even here, he had all the abilities to get it done. We knew he was a special player.”
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    After junior college, Southwick spent his redshirt year at the University of Utah, as the backup to Cleveland Browns Quarterback Brett Rattliff, and returned the following winter to St. George for the transitional year from junior college to Division II.

    His last year of college football was spent at Occidental, an NCAA Division III school located in southern California.

    When it’s all said and done, Southwick competed at every level of College Football other than the NAIA

    “Everywhere I went, I learned a lot from the coaching staffs and my teammates,” Southwick said of his travels. “It gave me the opportunity to mature as a player and person.”

    Upon completion of his senior year at Occidental, Southwick began working with quarterback guru Steve Clarkson, who has worked with the likes of Ben Rothlisberger, Matt Leinart, and J.P. Losman, and trained at Athletes Performance – an institute focused on prepping college players for pro combines.

    While working out this winter, Southwick found his break when his path crossed with ex-BYU star Austin Collie who came to train in Southern California for the NFL combine and BYU pro day.

    For two months, Southwick worked alongside Collie and the two developed an on and off the field relationship.

    “Austin is an unbelievable talent, but also a great guy,” said Southwick.

    Collie needed someone to throw for him in Provo during his workout in front of pro scouts and invited Southwick to do it.

    This put him smack dab in front of scouts from several different clubs including the Cincinati Bengals, Carolina Panthers and Oakland Raiders.

    “I knew it was a big break, but didn’t think much of it because they weren’t there for me,” he said. “But I still wanted to make a good impression.

    Southwick did just that.

    He performed so well that during his workout with Collie, one scout stopped the drills just to find out what his name was.

    “I knew all I needed was a chance, and I am just grateful to have had that opportunity,” Southwick said.

    From there Southwick first received a tryout with the Carolina Panthers in mid-April. Two days later, the Oakland Raiders had him on a plane headed for the Bay Area to meet with front office personnel and workout with quarterbacks coach Paul Hackett.

    The Raiders must have seen something they liked, because Southwick was invited back for a mini-camp.

    “To be here, from where I have been is a great opportunity. The Raiders have been great, and coach Cable and the staff here are building something really special, I am just grateful to have the chance to contribute anyway I can.” Southwick said from Oakland Friday night. “It has been a long road, a lot of hard work, but to have the chance to compete with guys at the highest level in the world is an honor.”

    No matter how long the road has been, for Southwick it was all just part of the plan.

  136. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    Southwick had a Quarterback rating of 174.12 and a 67% completion percentage during senior season at Occidental College.

    ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

    174.12!!!!!!!!

  137. RaiderTW Says:

    On the Raiders 50th season site there’s a Raider trivia, I wonder if Jerry would use that for signing on here, result? No trolls, lol. 2 yrs ago I asked MR a Marv Hubbard question which he couldn’t answer.

  138. RaiderTW Says:

    “You have to accept the fact that we have a problem or we would not be on the blog in July.
    -
    I’m RaiderTW & I’m a Raiderholic. lol

  139. Florida Pete Says:

    Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
    July 16th, 2009 at 7:57 am
    Southwick had a Quarterback rating of 174.12 and a 67% completion percentage during senior season at Occidental College.

    ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

    174.12!!!!!!!!

    :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

    don’t you forget that “point 12″…

    very important…

  140. RaiderRockstar Says:

    good morning OAKlifer.

    BSJ beat you to the Kool-Aid punch this morning

    Southwick is a stud!

  141. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    A must visit site for all serious Raider fans:

    http://dannysouthwick.com

  142. La Milicia Negra Says:

    effing mormons and scientology… its nothing but a pyramid scam…

  143. RaiderRockstar Says:

    A must visit site for all serious Raider fans:

    http://dannysouthwick.com

    ***

    BSJ: I live there!

  144. SnB Defense Says:

    An excerpt from an SI.Com column talking evaluating players through game tape.

    • How much of an advantage do some teams in the league have schematically over others?

    “I am a big believer that coaching plays a significant role in wins and losses in the NFL. Talent-wise, teams are not that different. Outside of the quarterback position, it very often comes down to coaching, which is primarily playing to your strengths and minimizing your limitations. Some organizations are better than others at utilizing their players and really diagnosing what makes the other team successful. Bill Belichick is really good at that. He has a great feel for the strengths of his own players and taking away the one or two things that the other team does well.”

    http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/writers/ross_tucker/07/15/tape/index.html?eref=T1

  145. RaiderRockstar Says:

    I am a big believer that coaching plays a significant role in wins and losses in the NFL. Talent-wise, teams are not that different. Outside of the quarterback position, it very often comes down to coaching, which is primarily playing to your strengths and minimizing your limitations. Some organizations are better than others at utilizing their players and really diagnosing what makes the other team successful.

    ***

    how does this make you feel about having Tom Cable as HC?

  146. Dakota Says:

    The pawn shop is open!!!

  147. RaiderRockstar Says:

    good morning S&B, Dakota …

  148. La Milicia Negra Says:

    woaw! what an exiting finish!

  149. SnB Defense Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    July 16th, 2009 at 8:14 am

    how does this make you feel about having Tom Cable as HC?
    =======================================================
    I am on the fence with Cable right now. I am delighted he was retained. I think he will have the team inspired enough to get on the field thinking they can win.

    My concerns about Cable are three-fold:

    1. How good is he with the Xs and Os…and making adjustments. With all the talent on this team offensively, will he be able to exploit mismatches

    2. Loyalty…Cable shows signs of being “Loyal to a Fault”…THIS IS Just my opinion. I just hear a little to much deference to mediocre to below average players about leadership etc. Leadership is all good..but talent and production are just as important too.

    3. Al Davis input: Does Cable have the pull to run his own show? Davis has to let Cable and Marshall do their jobs without having to worry about getting called to the rincipal’s office if there is a bad week or two. No one outside the team or people who have played there trulyknows fact from fiction. But here’s what we do know:

    i. The Raiders have difficulty even getting to interview to tier talent coaches or coaching prospects.

    ii. The last 20 yrs has seen Davis swaps out coaches every 1.5 yrs

    iii. There have been claims by a few players and ex-coaches that have alluded to a lot of input from Davis including altering the playbook, calling plays and strategy

    iv. Davis manages the roster (like most GMs do BTW)

  150. CJ Legend 34 Says:

    Raider Rockstar what’s up it has been a minute.

    I don’t know what Danny Southwick can do but man he has a cool footballl name.

    Would that not be a trip if in three years this guy is our starting QB making all of the passes to DHB, Murphy and Miller. While my main man JAM is on the bench getting ready to be traded to a new team.

  151. RaiderTW Says:

    Dakota, my guess is you are a bail bondsman, hence contact with lowlifes. lol

  152. CJ Legend 34 Says:

    I can not say much about Cable as a head coach because his time has been so limted. One thing I do like is he seems to be down to earth with no over inflated ego. Kiffin walked around like he a Napoleon complex most of the time.

    I did like the way Cable rallyed a team who had nothing to play for to win some games in style.

    I still do not know why Cable like Kiffin can’t see Bush as a top back and get him in the game more.

  153. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Would that not be a trip if in three years this guy is our starting QB making all of the passes to DHB, Murphy and Miller. While my main man JAM is on the bench getting ready to be traded to a new team.

    ***

    CJ: although most people in here probably think that I’m not a Russell fan, I really hope he does well this year. I want him to start – not Jeff Garcia. I think Garcia is proven. I know he has leadership skills and that he’s a winner. Prisco (or was it clark judge?) even says he’s the best backup QB in the league! Al Davis wants to win now. This puts Russell in a tough spot. He’s being pushed by the owner, his coaches, his teammates, the fans and especially the media. This might be a lot to handle for a raw soft spoken guy like Russell to handle. No doubt he has a big arm to throw the ball downfield, but there is so much more to the QB position and this kid needs to show drastic improvement from last season if he wants to keep his job. There is one stat that matters to Davis & Cable. WINS. If Cable doesn’t win, he’ll lose his job. If Davis doesn’t win, he’ll shake up the roster and/or coaching staff to try something else. Davis sees young teams in shambles every year turn around and make the playoffs under a new coach and/or QB. If Denver or KC has a quick turnaround and we don’t… and if these teams get the best of us despite us looking much better on paper, change will happen

    regarding Southwick… I like the kid. I think he has a future in this league and I hope it’s with us!

    REVIEW: I like Russell. want him to win games and improve his game

    If he fails, we fail. We can’t afford any busts, which makes reaching for players in the draft so much more risky! Here’s hoping that even if Heyward-Bey & Mitchell don’t produce this season … the other wideouts and safeties can contribute enough to pick up the slack and do enough to win us some ballgames.

  154. Dakota Says:

    I’m still not that impressed with Cable and his great couple of victories at the end of the season….especially the TB game. We won because Caddy got hurt and because Cable was forced to use Bush. If Cable had his way Fargas would have lead us to defeat.

    And beating the Texans? That wasn’t bad, but it certainly didn’t make up for getting smoked by SD and NE the previous couple of weeks.

  155. RaiderRockstar Says:

    I am on the fence with Cable right now. I am delighted he was retained. I think he will have the team inspired enough to get on the field thinking they can win.

    ***

    I’m satisfied with him, given our lack of options for HC. I’m glad it wasn’t somebody like Kevin Gilbride, Winston Moss, Rob Ryan or James Lofton!

    Russell needs some sort of stability around him. You can’t surround 1 good kid with 20 bad ones and expect him to change all the bad ones. Most times it’s the 1 kid that does the changing. Having said that it looks like Cable has tossed most of the me-first, money hungry, disgruntled employees to the curb. Javon Walker took a paycut and has been at camp, OTA’s, ect helping his teammates. He’s played the role of good soldier and shied away from the media since he joined Oakland, now all he has to do is get healthy and produce on the field. Who knows if he can return to the player he was 3 years ago? Same goes for Derrick Burgess. Hasn’t been at OTA’s, but thats a usual thing for him. Andrew Walter is all but gone. Can’t see us kicking Gradkowski, Frye & Southwick to the curb in favor of a kid who ditched QB school, OTA’s and got no work in the first post-draft camp and basically called Cable a liar last year “I was benched for no reason and nobody told me about it” “This is Oakland. Thats how we do things!”

    Barnes had issues in the past, but he came here hungry to prove himself and was a low-risk/high-reward signing. Henderson needed some type of competition and he wasn’t getting it from Mark Wilson, Paul McQuistan, James Marten or Marcus Johnson. Certainly not Cornell Green!

  156. Dakota Says:

    Hey it is draft day!!!!! Can’t wait to watch Oakland waste a 2nd round pick on one of these supp guys, lol.

  157. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Dakota: I agree

    beating Houston & Tampa Bay was awesome, but in retrospect wouldn’t it have been much sweeter to beat a playoff team? TB could have beat 6 other teams and made it into the playoffs. the Texans have always been a .500 team at best!

    we got pounded by the Saints, Falcons, Ravens & Chargers. we weren’t even competitive!

    games we should have won: Weeks 3 & 4 (thanks Lane!) Miami & the 2nd KC game. Russell was hurt when we played the Panthers so I’ll give Cable a pass on that one … that would have made us an 8 or 9 win team, despite all the garbage going on!

  158. SnB Defense Says:

    Rockstar,

    Why is Andrew Walter still on the roster? What possible, logical reason is he still on the roster?

  159. SnB Defense Says:

    Wouldn’t you guys rather have Franz Joseph or Stryker Sulak on the roster instead of Andrew Walter?

    Why would those two get cut before Walter?

    Walter is probably going to get cut before camp anyway and maybe there are other issues behind the scenes.

    YOu have a guy that doesn’t want to be here, has a negative attitude towards the team and coaches and has emphasized a desire to be a starter.

    Why are they messing with this kid. If anyone needs a chance to catch on its this kid. Especially being QB

  160. jhill Says:

    I just don’t see a way that even Cable can mess this up. DMac will be starting, along with Miller, Schillens, and JLH. DHB, Murphy, and Walker will also get looks, and we have a healthy, Kwame-free O-line.

    We should be competitive every week, and win the division!

  161. Raider O Says:

    Good Morning AM Crew.

    TW,

    I like to stay calm most of the time, and I can’t tell you guys how much I enjoy chatting with you. I said it before, this a great way for me to have a social life. We are pack animals, so we like the company.

  162. RaiderRockstar Says:

    S&B: I think they are using Walter as a camp arm. That, or they are waiting to see if a backup QB goes down in training camp to get a 6th or 7th round pick for him in a trade?

    You know Davis always thinks his players have value. Remember when he wanted 2 1st rounders for Jerry Porter? LOL. Probably asked the same thing for Michael Bush!

    Thought Rhodes & Jordan had value. Put Sands & Huff on the block at their respective salaries.

    Maybe Al Davis wants to cut him and not pay him for the last year of his contract? fire him “for cause” – not showing up to training camp. haha

  163. RaiderTW Says:

    And beating the Texans? That wasn’t bad, but it certainly didn’t make up for getting smoked by SD and NE the previous couple of weeks.

    ———-
    i TELL YOU What, the SD game was one of the worst Raider games I remember witnessing. I didn’t see ONE drive by the Raiders, it was a low point for me in the last 5 yrs. But I am really happy to see the Raiders get Chucky & Shanny fired after they schooled those two teams.

  164. Silver-n-Black666 Says:

    Andrew Walter is on scholarship lets not forget that!

  165. RaiderTW Says:

    Mornin’ O. I liked they way you handled Dude last night, lol.

  166. SnB Defense Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    July 16th, 2009 at 9:29 am
    S&B: I think they are using Walter as a camp arm. That, or they are waiting to see if a backup QB goes down in training camp to get a 6th or 7th round pick for him in a trade?

    You know Davis always thinks his players have value. Remember when he wanted 2 1st rounders for Jerry Porter? LOL. Probably asked the same thing for Michael Bush!

    Thought Rhodes & Jordan had value. Put Sands & Huff on the block at their respective salaries.

    Maybe Al Davis wants to cut him and not pay him for the last year of his contract? fire him “for cause” – not showing up to training camp. haha
    =======================================================
    1. How many camp arms does a team need. Russell, Garcia, Gratkowski, Frye and your boy Southwick…tell’n me that’s not enough!

    2. Davis overvalues his players on the trade market…but he also overvalues players with scholarships. Walter has no trade value. Even they have to know that.

    3. I hope Davis isn’t wasting energy being vindictive with a young QB who just wants a chance to fullfill his dream of being a starting NFL QB. Like Michael Huff…the Raiders kind of ruined this kid’s chances of reaching his full potential. Plus, these guys have to focus on winning games. Not politics.

    Cut the man already!

  167. RaiderRockstar Says:

    good morning Raider O, Jhill …

  168. RaiderTW Says:

    Raider O Says:
    I like to stay calm most of the time
    ——-
    It couldn’t have been funnier unless you said you would go “zookeeper on his monkey ass!” lol

  169. Raider O Says:

    I dont like being insulted, and I hate it when people mistake my kindness for weakness!

    I’m not weak, but I like to treat you the way I want to be treated. At the same time I’m human, so I can only take so much abuse. I have a bad temper, so I like to keep it locked deep inside. Temper can destroy lives, Ive seen it with my own eyes.

    My temper scares me.

  170. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Davis overvalues his players on the trade market…but he also overvalues players with scholarships. Walter has no trade value. Even they have to know that.

    ***

    I don’t know S&B. Al Davis thought Jordan & Rhodes had value with 1000 yard rusher Justin Fargas, Michael Bush and Darren McFadden on the roster last offseason.

    He finally cut Jordan after Jordan verbally agreed not to sign with the Patriots or Broncos. Who are the first 2 teams he signed with?

  171. SnB Defense Says:

    jhill Says:
    July 16th, 2009 at 9:27 am
    I just don’t see a way that even Cable can mess this up. DMac will be starting, along with Miller, Schillens, and JLH. DHB, Murphy, and Walker will also get looks, and we have a healthy, Kwame-free O-line.

    We should be competitive every week, and win the division!
    =======================================================
    Sure, this can be messed up.

    Fargas could get a heavy % of carries

    The playcalling could be overly conservative…you know (run, run, pass, punt)

  172. RaiderTW Says:

    Yep, RaiderRockstar, I look forward to seeing him fall down after a 2yd pick up.

  173. Dakota Says:

    jhill Says:
    July 16th, 2009 at 9:27 am
    I just don’t see a way that even Cable can mess this up. DMac will be starting, along with Miller, Schillens, and JLH. DHB, Murphy, and Walker will also get looks, and we have a healthy, Kwame-free O-line.

    We should be competitive every week, and win the division!
    ___________________________________

    Lol…watch and see…Fargas to the left, Fargas to the right, Russell incomplete pass…punt….

    Or…holding on the RT Green…..Talking Head: Why is Green playing while Barnes sits on the bench?

    Or…4th and goal, the Raiders need a TD to tie the game, what’s this? Tom Cable is asking McFadden for advice on goal line plays? Uh-Oh, the play clock has expired…looks like it will now be 4th and goal from the 8 yard line….

    lol

    In Tom we trust!!!! NOT ME BABY!!!!!

  174. Raider O Says:

    TW,

    LMAO

    You are an artist, you have a great imagination.
    I was just happy to imagine him as a little monkey.

    I wish I had an artistic magination, so I have a lot of respect for people like you and my wife.

  175. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    Walter is being kept around because he hasn’t earned the money Al has already payed him. Al hates that. It’s all about attitude and commitment, and Andrew has been a slacker in both regards.

    He behaves like he has always dreamed of selling insurance.

  176. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    Dakota, you trust Piniella?

  177. Raider O Says:

    RR,

    Thank you for the kind words early today. I appreciate that.

    The AM Crew is great.

  178. RaiderRockstar Says:

    The playcalling could be overly conservative…you know (run, run, pass, punt)

    ***

    Cable was near as conservative as Kiffin & Knapp were. He took the training wheels off Russell, trick plays, etc. However – Hackett & Tollner both get labeled “conservative” with their offenses. I’m glad Cabl is the play caller and not one of these guys. They can teach Russell and the young WR’s. Cable can add some sugar & spice to their playbooks. He was a former OC himself in college, so he’s not completely ignorant and inexperienced. Most people see a big fat OL coach and think “dumb grunt” but that isn’t the case

  179. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    Dakota Says:
    July 16th, 2009 at 9:45 am
    jhill Says:
    July 16th, 2009 at 9:27 am
    I just don’t see a way that even Cable can mess this up. DMac will be starting, along with Miller, Schillens, and JLH. DHB, Murphy, and Walker will also get looks, and we have a healthy, Kwame-free O-line.

    We should be competitive every week, and win the division!
    ___________________________________

    Lol…watch and see…Fargas to the left, Fargas to the right, Russell incomplete pass…punt….

    Or…holding on the RT Green…..Talking Head: Why is Green playing while Barnes sits on the bench?

    Or…4th and goal, the Raiders need a TD to tie the game, what’s this? Tom Cable is asking McFadden for advice on goal line plays? Uh-Oh, the play clock has expired…looks like it will now be 4th and goal from the 8 yard line….

    lol

    In Tom we trust!!!! NOT ME BABY!!!!!

    ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

    I believe Cable was far more creative and effective than Knapp, who was supposedly experienced. Cable has a very good record calling plays. And he did the right thing listening to McFadden. Reminded me of Stabler/Madden.

  180. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Thank you for the kind words early today. I appreciate that.

    The AM Crew is great.

    ***

    good or bad. I just tell it like it is. my opinion of course :)

    O: what do you expect from Tom Cable in Year 1 w/o the “interim” label?

  181. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Cable was near as conservative as Kiffin & Knapp were

    ***

    WASN’T near as conservative

    TYPO!

    where is the spelling & grammer police when you need them?

  182. Raider O Says:

    Someone here made a great point the other day.

    Why cut Sulak and Frantz before camp, and keep guys like WR franklin ( and others), a TE playing LB, and other players who we had in camp before like SW and others( we know that can’t do anything, so why keep them over Sulak and Frantz?)

    Frantz didn’t show us what he can with contact!

  183. Raider O Says:

    RR,

    I like Cable as a motivator, but I didn’t like his play calling except the last few games of last season.

    There are coaches who like Al, and want to work for him. He is one of these coaches. That should bring stability, and we need that.

    So he adds stability, motivation, and he was an Oline coach. Oline coaches know the games are won from the lines. If he can keep improving his play calling ( more like TB and not the 2nd KC game), he can do good things for us.

    9-7 baby!

  184. RaiderDogg Says:

    Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
    July 16th, 2009 at 7:57 am
    Southwick had a Quarterback rating of 174.12 and a 67% completion percentage during senior season at Occidental College.

    ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

    174.12!!!!!!!!”

    I thought that the highest QB rating possible was 158.3. Is it different in college?

  185. Dakota Says:

    Bo, I trust Lou…I just don’t trust the pitching coach and the players, lol.

  186. RaiderDogg Says:

    Raider O

    Like Cable said, you throw the ball to score points, you run the ball to win games…

  187. RaiderTW Says:

    I just got another bet down with a Donkey fan. $50 says the Raiders have a better record than the Donks.
    Go Raiders!!!

  188. RaiderDogg Says:

    Dakota

    The question is do you trust “The Game” Milton Bradley?

  189. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Oline coaches know the games are won from the lines.

    ***

    Agreed. Hopefully Satele, Carlisle, Green, Kelly, Sands & Warren are ready to step up their games or we will not win 9 games! we’d be lucky to win 5 again!

  190. Raider O Says:

    RD,

    Southwick is different!

    Allow to educate you:

    He is a superior talent!
    He is on a mission from god!
    He can do it!! 174.12!!

  191. Raider O Says:

    Guys,

    The odds are in our favor!!

    How many 4-12 and 5-11 seasons can we have??
    Even the Bengals, browns, and the Cards have had winning seasons!!!!

    It’s our turn, 9-7!

  192. RaiderDogg Says:

    Nation

    2 questions for any and all of you:

    Have any of you ever attended the Raider Nation Celebration?

    If you have, is it appropriate for a 3 year old? Little dude really wants to go…

    Thanks for any and all feedback.

  193. Raider O Says:

    TW,

    Denver lost their offense, and they haven’t had a deffense in 5 yrs!

    Thank you Josh McD!! Now trade B Marshall!!

  194. SnB Defense Says:

    Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
    July 16th, 2009 at 9:49 am
    Walter is being kept around because he hasn’t earned the money Al has already payed him. Al hates that. It’s all about attitude and commitment, and Andrew has been a slacker in both regards.

    He behaves like he has always dreamed of selling insurance.
    =======================================================
    How does THAT (making sure a 3rd rd pick “earns” his money) help the Raiders focus during camp?

    How does THAT ensure that every rep is helping build the team?

    How does THAT help win games?

  195. Raider O Says:

    OAK,

    Where you at Dude?

  196. RaiderDogg Says:

    Dakota

    I am hearing that the Heat are making a serious push for Odom. What is his problem? Just sign on the dotted line you fukkin stoner!

  197. RaiderTW Says:

    Raider O Says:
    TW,
    Denver lost their offense, and they haven’t had a deffense in 5 yrs!
    ———
    My only worry is Denver always runs well & they got a #1 draft pick RB. Hopefully Marshall will stop SOME of the running game. I’m afraid Brandon isn’t going anywhere but news has come out that when he was busted a couple of yrs ago he said he hated Denver & wanted out, to the cops. Maybe a Mel Gibson moment. No word is he called any cops sugar t!ts.

  198. Raider O Says:

    Dakota,

    “Stoner” don’t hate on the man for having good taste!

    Legalize it!!

    This is Cali, me next door neighbor asked me if she can borrow an apple!!
    LMAO true story!

  199. Raider O Says:

    Me next door…!! I’m not Irish!

    My ……lol

  200. Raider O Says:

    TW,

    Mel!! Sugar t!ts!!

    LMAO

    They don’t have a QB, and I don’t know if they will keep the ZBS.

  201. Dakota Says:

    Dogg, that is funny…”fukkin stoner”, lmao…no scheet!

  202. RaiderDogg Says:

    Raider O Says:
    July 16th, 2009 at 10:34 am
    Dakota,

    “Stoner” don’t hate on the man for having good taste!

    Legalize it!!

    This is Cali, me next door neighbor asked me if she can borrow an apple!!
    LMAO true story!”

    Raider O

    I don’t give 2 sh1ts if the guy smokes weed, to each his own, it just appears that it is making him passive. Grow some stones and make a decision. I read somewhere that Odom said he wanted to make sure it was ok with his agent if he signed with the Lakers! Isn’t it up to him?

    O – Can I borrow some sugar?

  203. RaiderTW Says:

    Nybody see Bruno?

  204. RaiderTW Says:

    Can I borrow some sugar t!ts?

  205. NoMoreFargas Says:

    I saw Bruno hilarious!

  206. RaiderDogg Says:

    RaiderTW Says:
    July 16th, 2009 at 11:08 am
    Can I borrow some sugar t!ts?”

    All Time Favorite Bumper Sticker:

    T!ts on Ritz, mmm mmm Good Cracker!

  207. Raider O Says:

    RD,

    No suggar, but I have some greens. lol

    I don’t know if it’s the weed that’s making him passive. He just seems as if he’s not interested or he lacks passion.

    I saw a lot of talent in him, but little passion. IMO

  208. Raider O Says:

    RD,

    LMAO @ 206

  209. CantstandtheHaters Says:

    i believe TC knows how to take advantage of a good running offense in the passing game. i think he knows a good deal about what a running threat does to a defense, how they are gonna eventually sell out somewhere and gamble. proved it in college and in the last phase of the season.
    +
    not worried about the playbook too much as he seems to involve his assisstents in the process.

    now like raider O said, him being the O Line coach, i think he really understands what it means to play for each other like always stressing teamwork n playing for each other etc.

    he also helped correct Russells play in the pocket, his awereness, cut down the stupid penaltys that forever seemed to tip the scale against us in the past and brought in good teachers to form a team thats still one of the youngest in the league.

    the icing is he gets along with the Boss.

    really like the guys chances.

    now the only remaining question is will he have his own EA Sports game when he steps down with three rings in the future!?!?! i say yes. get ready for the rundown to EA Sports, Cable 2020!

  210. RaiderTW Says:

    RaiderDogg, I saw one the other day thta said; Nice Marmet.

  211. RaiderTW Says:

    Opps, nice marmot.

  212. RaiderDogg Says:

    RaiderTW Says:
    July 16th, 2009 at 11:18 am
    RaiderDogg, I saw one the other day thta said; Nice Marmet.”

    Do you live in Puxatawnee?

  213. RaiderDogg Says:

    I don’t know about you guys, but I am getting psyched to see what Mitchell can do for us. I think he has a huge chip on his shoulder. I just hope he isn’t concussionn prone cuz I have the feeling he is going to be a bit of a headhunter/enforcer.

  214. RaiderTW Says:

    The Raiders have needed a Lott/Tatum type for a long time.

  215. RaiderTW Says:

    Do you live in Puxatawnee?

    as in Phil?
    Hell, I can’t even spell marmot! I love the Big Lebowski. AND Groundhog day.lol

  216. RaiderDogg Says:

    TDub

    How psyched would you be if we had a Lott/Tatum type in Mitchell? It has been far too long. Make people think twice about coming over the middle.

  217. Crow Says:

    So, our marginal WR prospect makes a deal with the devil. Good stuff. That should cost him a few weeks of camp.

  218. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    RaiderDogg Says:
    July 16th, 2009 at 10:06 am
    Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
    July 16th, 2009 at 7:57 am
    Southwick had a Quarterback rating of 174.12 and a 67% completion percentage during senior season at Occidental College.

    ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

    174.12!!!!!!!!”

    I thought that the highest QB rating possible was 158.3. Is it different in college?

    ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

    158.3 may actually be the max possible QB rating, however Southwick’s amp goes to 11.

  219. HayesDaze37 Says:

    Ahhh — A Big Lebowski reference. Nice.

    Not so nice…when hypocrites take pot-shots at others. Hey, we all got it in us, but some guys just can’t be anything BUT a hypocrite most the time — they just can’t (read: refuse to) see their own faults.

    HYPOCRITE ALERT HYPOCRITE ALERT HYPOCRITE ALERT

    LMN says:
    (T)he self righteous HD37, really shot himself in the foot with that one =)

    La Milicia Negra Says:

    effing mormons and scientology… its nothing but a pyramid scam…

    ————————————–

    WTF?? Ha Ha Ha. And I’m self-righteous.

    LMN — Whether or not you agree with Scientology as a religion/cult/sect/whatever, your rating of them sure seems pretty self-righteous on YOUR part! I’m sure there are even a few Scientologists that read this blog…I’m sure they won’t find that an offensive comment!

    You state the weirdest things sometimes. You exhibit some of the narrowest lines of thought on the board — from politics to religion to biz to sports…

    Oft-times the stats I put on here highlight exactly what the “other side” is arguing…instead of how you overstate things like “everybody” did or said something, without a shred of data to show for it.

    You’re so closed-minded and cynical, you even outwardly say you “hate” a fine young Raiders player you know absolutely nothing about. Not that you hate the pick, but you hate the player (your own word). I guess if he makes the team, you’ll suddenly “love” him? Tell me how that spells out F A N.

    Self-righteous…thy name is LMN!

    HYPOCRITE ALERT HYPOCRITE ALERT HYPOCRITE ALERT

    Oh well…maybe we should just leave the forum to the cynics.

    Not!!

    It’s a great day to be a Raiders fan. Isn’t it?

  220. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    BSJ’s favorite bumper sticker~~~~~~~>

    “My wife just hasn’t been right since that house fell on her sister.”

  221. Crow Says:

    This really is an impressive collection of know-nothing homers. It’s like raiderfans.net took a dump on Jerrah’s blog. Shameful. Funny, but shameful.

  222. DirtyRaccoon Says:

    Oakland Raiders starting RT for 2010

    We have a colection or so-so LT that will not make an impact at RT! We need some power in our line, just ask ol’ AL.

    5. Ciron Black

    College: LSU
    Height/Weight: 6-4, 325

    Black is a fifth-year player who has started 40 straight games at left tackle. He played a school-record 1,031 snaps in 2007. He is a better run blcoker than pass protector. He is a good, but not great, worker. When you watch tape, you expect more than you see.

  223. KoolKell Says:

    A little story:

    My broker is on the Board of Directors of the Alameda Chamber of Commerce, which is sponsoring a trip to Raiders training Camp Aug 6th.

    At our sales meeting this morning, he was making a announcement of the trip to Agents who might want to go, about 25 agents in attendance.

    But as a warning, he announced that the Board had been notified, twice, that anyone approaching, speaking to, or looking at Al Davis would be ejected from camp immediately.

    The room of Agents began to laugh and snicker saying how crazy and weird Al Davis is. These are all Alamedeans who’ve been around awhile. Anyhooo. I thought it interesting.

  224. HayesDaze37 Says:

    Hey, KK — Anybody else from here going to ride the bus with you on the way over?

  225. HayesDaze37 Says:

    Ejected for “looking” at him? Methinks somebody’s exaggerating a little maybe, KK? How about not stare The Man down, or turn attention on him as opposed to the team…whose camp your Chamber has been so cordially invited to attend?

  226. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    How smart of the Raiders to protect Al Davis from a horde of sleazy real estate agents/brokers. All elderly people with money should be so lucky.

  227. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Anybody else from here going to ride the bus with you on the way over?

    ***

    in Dakota’s town they’d make him ride in the back of the bus …

  228. RaiderRockstar Says:

    hey Dirty!

    who is Ciron Black ?

    is he coming out today for the supp. draft ??? If so, hope he’s a late round selection :)

  229. RaiderRockstar Says:

    The Raiders have needed a Lott/Tatum type for a long time.

    ***

    that is asking a bit much from the youngster imo. those guys are/were legends

    M&M might be something closer to strong safeties Roy Williams and Donovan Darius (in their primes)

  230. CantstandtheHaters Says:

    Kell dont fuk it up and get escorted early trying to get an autograph there now. cause im looking forward to your report out of camp. KK do you know how to twitter?

  231. HayesDaze37 Says:

    Wow, RRS — That was a big shot across the bow. Taking a shot at a whole town, even. I picture the area around Dakota as much more accepting of its diversity than “outsiders” could imagine.

    Ummm, RRS…aren’t you in Memphis? Kettle black! Excuse me…kettle Black!!

  232. CJ Legend 34 Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    July 16th, 2009 at 8:51 am
    Would that not be a trip if in three years this guy is our starting QB making all of the passes to DHB, Murphy and Miller. While my main man JAM is on the bench getting ready to be traded to a new team.

    ***

    CJ: although most people in here probably think that I’m not a Russell fan, I really hope he does well this year. I want him to start – not Jeff Garcia. I think Garcia is proven. I know he has leadership skills and that he’s a winner. Prisco (or was it clark judge?) even says he’s the best backup QB in the league! Al Davis wants to win now. This puts Russell in a tough spot. He’s being pushed by the owner, his coaches, his teammates, the fans and especially the media. This might be a lot to handle for a raw soft spoken guy like Russell to handle. No doubt he has a big arm to throw the ball downfield, but there is so much more to the QB position and this kid needs to show drastic improvement from last season if he wants to keep his job. There is one stat that matters to Davis & Cable. WINS. If Cable doesn’t win, he’ll lose his job. If Davis doesn’t win, he’ll shake up the roster and/or coaching staff to try something else. Davis sees young teams in shambles every year turn around and make the playoffs under a new coach and/or QB. If Denver or KC has a quick turnaround and we don’t… and if these teams get the best of us despite us looking much better on paper, change will happen

    regarding Southwick… I like the kid. I think he has a future in this league and I hope it’s with us!

    REVIEW: I like Russell. want him to win games and improve his game

    If he fails, we fail. We can’t afford any busts, which makes reaching for players in the draft so much more risky! Here’s hoping that even if Heyward-Bey & Mitchell don’t produce this season … the other wideouts and safeties can contribute enough to pick up the slack and do enough to win us some ballgames.

    ——————————————————-
    RR I am a JAM fan as well. I want him to do well in this league. I am noth all the bling he brings to his interviews but he earned his bling the right way so I can’t take that from him. I think his game will improve this year because he finally has a verteran there and hopefully the line gives the guy more time. He really has had a lot working aginst him. 1st year contract issues, 2nd year Kiffin-Al garbage. Each year the o-line made you want to puke! Field position was terrible. With this being said, he was paid much $$$ to produce quick. Hopefully, third year is a charm!

    When we had a running game JAM was successful. I hope the running game helps make it happen. Not to mention Cable finally playing JLH and Chaz. Kiffin was scared to play young guys. Bad move when that is where your talent lies.

  233. DirtyRaccoon Says:

    KoolKell Says:
    July 16th, 2009 at 12:31 pm
    A little story:

    My broker is on the Board of Directors of the Alameda Chamber of Commerce, which is sponsoring a trip to Raiders training Camp Aug 6th.

    At our sales meeting this morning, he was making a announcement of the trip to Agents who might want to go, about 25 agents in attendance.

    But as a warning, he announced that the Board had been notified, twice, that anyone approaching, speaking to, or looking at Al Davis would be ejected from camp immediately.

    The room of Agents began to laugh and snicker saying how crazy and weird Al Davis is. These are all Alamedeans who’ve been around awhile. Anyhooo. I thought it interesting.

    *****************************

    You can look at Al, just not cause a seen, or yell out to him to come over, or aks him for anything. He is at work, you wouldn’t want anyone to barge into youe office and ask you why the sky is green, or when will the pigs fly. If you are very lucky (once to me in 6 years) Al will come over and adress the crowd for a minute of open dialogue. This is the same policy we have for the players, it is just enforced a little tighter with MR. Davis.

  234. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    Its been too long since Y’alls Trippin has posted…

  235. DirtyRaccoon Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    July 16th, 2009 at 12:47 pm
    hey Dirty!

    who is Ciron Black ?

    is he coming out today for the supp. draft ??? If so, hope he’s a late round selection

    *************************************

    He is the LT for LSU. He will be in the draft next year. He should play hard for J Russ, and looks like a heck of a Right T, but at 6′4″ he may be a stud RG at worst. Al, .. im mean Tom Cable like his tackles 6′5″ or better.

  236. DirtyRaccoon Says:

    Y’alls Trippin was fired.

  237. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Ummm, RRS…aren’t you in Memphis? Kettle black! Excuse me…kettle Black!!

    ***

    Missouri, close enough.

    I was just joking anyways. I thought that might draw some crazy response from Kell and/or Dakota

  238. RaiderTW Says:

    But as a warning, he announced that the Board had been notified, twice, that anyone approaching, speaking to, or looking at Al Davis would be ejected from camp immediately.
    ——–
    This is the same instructions for people being in the presence of:
    JLo
    Barbara Streistan(sp)
    Dick Chenney
    Elton John
    Britany Spears
    Howard Hughes
    Maddonna
    Christian Bale
    hahahahaha

  239. KoolKell Says:

    Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
    July 16th, 2009 at 12:43 pm
    How smart of the Raiders to protect Al Davis from a horde of sleazy real estate agents/brokers. All elderly people with money should be so lucky.
    _____________________
    The chamber of Commerce is a business group, not a Realtor group.

    My understanding the Board has been notified twice about this, and my broker emphasized “Looking at him” can get you ejected. But yeah, probably an exaggeration. But just an example of the eccentristies of the man.

  240. SnB Defense Says:

    DirtyRaccoon says,

    This is the same policy we have for the players, it is just enforced a little tighter with MR. Davis.
    =======================================================
    Serious question: You work for the organization?

  241. Dakota Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    July 16th, 2009 at 12:46 pm
    Anybody else from here going to ride the bus with you on the way over?

    ***

    in Dakota’s town they’d make him ride in the back of the bus …
    ________________________

    Yeah right….like we have buses! But if we did, anyone could ride anywhere they wanted…except Libs…they would have to walk.

  242. HayesDaze37 Says:

    What area o’ Mizzou?

  243. RaiderDogg Says:

    Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
    July 16th, 2009 at 12:43 pm
    How smart of the Raiders to protect Al Davis from a horde of sleazy real estate agents/brokers. All elderly people with money should be so lucky.”

    LMAO

  244. RaiderRockstar Says:

    he was paid much $$$ to produce quick. Hopefully, third year is a charm!

    ***

    I think that is when most raw QB’s start to produce, in their 3rd season. Very few win Super Bowls like Big Ben & Tom Brady their 2nd year in the league!

  245. RaiderTW Says:

    …except Libs…they would have to walk.
    ———-
    We’ll drive Prius’ thank you.

  246. RaiderDogg Says:

    RR

    I would be very pleased if Mitchell played like Darius or Williams in their prime!

  247. RaiderRockstar Says:

    anyone could ride anywhere they wanted…except Libs…they would have to walk.

    ***

    LOL. yes !!!

  248. KoolKell Says:

    When Randy Moss was here, he was paying $10,000 per month rent, for a house in Harbor Bay, waterfront.

  249. RaiderRockstar Says:

    What area o’ Mizzou?

    ***

    3 hours from Tulsa. 3 hours from Kansas City. 3 hours from St. Louis and 45 minutes from Springfield

  250. Dakota Says:

    KK, ask to be HC next year….you are almost as qualified as Mr. Cable!

  251. RaiderDogg Says:

    KoolKell Says:
    July 16th, 2009 at 1:06 pm
    When Randy Moss was here, he was paying $10,000 per month rent, for a house in Harbor Bay, waterfront.”

    Relevancy?

  252. RaiderRockstar Says:

    I would be very pleased if Mitchell played like Darius or Williams in their prime!

    ***

    shoot. I’ll be pleased if he plays better than Derrick Gibson and Gibril Wilson!

  253. RaiderRockstar Says:

    KK, ask to be HC next year….you are almost as qualified as Mr. Cable!

    ***

    are you serious? you want another GM/HC feud? I’ll pass …

    I’d rather have Art Shell 3.0

  254. RaiderDogg Says:

    Dakota Says:
    July 16th, 2009 at 1:06 pm
    KK, ask to be HC next year….you are almost as qualified as Mr. Cable!”

    Wouldn’t work. You have to have a sense of humor to work for Al Davis. Kell would end up killing Al.

  255. KoolKell Says:

    Tommy Kelly rents from a lady in my office. She says he’s a teddy bear.

  256. RaiderTW Says:

    She says he’s a teddy bear.
    ——
    He’d better play like a moth*r f*ck*ng Grizzy on sundays!!!

  257. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Tommy Kelly rents from a lady in my office. She says he’s a teddy bear.

    ***

    Did she say anything about him getting DUI’s or refusing to salute the flag?

  258. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    KoolKell Says:
    July 16th, 2009 at 1:00 pm
    Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
    July 16th, 2009 at 12:43 pm
    How smart of the Raiders to protect Al Davis from a horde of sleazy real estate agents/brokers. All elderly people with money should be so lucky.
    _____________________
    The chamber of Commerce is a business group, not a Realtor group.

    ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

    I believe your quote was:

    “At our sales meeting this morning, he was making a announcement of the trip to Agents who might want to go, about 25 agents in attendance.”

  259. KoolKell Says:

    35 agents in attendance at our meeting, but I’m the only agent going. FYI, Chambers Of Commerce are local Business groups.

    Are you in business?

  260. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Anybody remember those comments that Gerard Warren made about Ben Roethlisberger a few years back?

    We need some more of those from him doning the silver & black!

  261. SnB Defense Says:

    So here’s another question for the group.

    Do you all expect D-HB to be a significant contributor this year? Do you expect him to start?

    Same with Mike Mitchell.

  262. DirtyRaccoon Says:

    SnB Defense Says:
    July 16th, 2009 at 1:00 pm
    DirtyRaccoon says,

    This is the same policy we have for the players, it is just enforced a little tighter with MR. Davis.
    =======================================================
    Serious question: You work for the organization?

    ***************************************************

    no

  263. RaiderTW Says:

    RaiderDogg Says:
    TDub
    How psyched would you be if we had a Lott/Tatum type in Mitchell? It has been far too long. Make people think twice about coming over the middle.
    ———–
    It would turn the WRs into alligators.

  264. KoolKell Says:

    I do not expect DHB to be a significant contributor. The only rookie contributor I can recall for the Raiders was Charles Woodson.

    Mitchell, QB’s like to play mind-games with rookie safeties.

  265. Dakota Says:

    RaiderDogg Says:
    July 16th, 2009 at 1:10 pm
    Dakota Says:
    July 16th, 2009 at 1:06 pm
    KK, ask to be HC next year….you are almost as qualified as Mr. Cable!”

    Wouldn’t work. You have to have a sense of humor to work for Al Davis. Kell would end up killing Al.
    ______________________

    and your point is???? lol

  266. DirtyRaccoon Says:

    kk, big 52

  267. DirtyRaccoon Says:

    N. Harris NLB

  268. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Do you all expect D-HB to be a significant contributor this year? Do you expect him to start?

    Same with Mike Mitchell.

    ***

    No. I don’t expect either player to start or be a significant contributor this season.

    that burden falls on Higgins, Schilens, Walker, Huff, Eugene & Branch

  269. OAKlifer Says:

    Raider O Says:
    July 16th, 2009 at 10:22 am
    OAK,

    Where you at Dude?

    88****************************

    How we doin my Raiders brother from a different mother!!!

    Busy day todayWHEW!!!!!!!!!!! glad its almos done!!!!

  270. KoolKell Says:

    SnB

    What’s your point, that DHB was #7?

    And a #7 should be a contributor?

  271. ToozFan Says:

    All this talk about the rooks at WR and no talk about Chaz or Johnnie Lee.
    I think these two are gonna play BIG this year, considering how they closed out last season, they could be a nice surprise w/ Javon and the rook’s to help out.
    Go Raiders!

  272. OAKlifer Says:

    HayesDaze37,,

    Sorry about spellin your name wrong yesterday!!!! Not intended!!!!!!! just noticed!!!! my bad brethran!!!

  273. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    KoolKell Says:
    July 16th, 2009 at 1:18 pm
    35 agents in attendance at our meeting, but I’m the only agent going. FYI, Chambers Of Commerce are local Business groups.

    Are you in business?

    ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

    Yes I am. Marketing Director for heavy industrial company. Your earlier post was imprecise. Don’t bother responding.

  274. OAKlifer Says:

    All this talk about the rooks at WR and no talk about Chaz or Johnnie Lee.

    Ive been on record saying JKH is one of my favorite RAIDUUUUHS!!!! at the moment!! he will do big things in both the return and receiving game he!! he might even make the PB as a ST or WR thats no Koolaid either I believe THAT!!!!!

    Only in for bout 30 mins b4 Im out just checkin in tho!!

    PLAYOFFBOUND!!!!

  275. RaiderRockstar Says:

    OAKlifer is back!

    whats up bro?

    where’s the Kool-Aid this PM? I need a hefty serving

  276. 909RaiderLifer Says:

    Nnamdi, to be on the PMS radio program this afternoon.

    Promo, said he will be on in the 1st. hour of the show. Starts at 4:00pm PDT. My guess, he’ll be on around 4:30pm +or-.

    http://www.am570radio.com Find the listen live link at the top. Or your local FOX Sports Radio station

  277. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Nnamdi, to be on the PMS radio program this afternoon.

    ***

    Anybody got the entire Kirk Morrison live chat transcript from NFL.com yesterday?

  278. OAKlifer Says:

    SOUTHWICK To the second unit!!!

    Gallery TO the PB!!!!!

    Kc’s line is going to make cassel wish he was scruubin tha deck on the on the worlds deadliest catch!!!!

    Donk’s Termoil will continue with Marshall getting arrested or holding out!!!!! and Orten will fall flat with no support!!!!!

    Sandy Eggo will have trouble taking LT off the feild for his counter part b/c of his status and that will hurt the team ALOT he is not healthly and old..”shaun alexsander status” Rivers will become frusterated and Start to call out Turner and Rivera will have the job by the first week of the next off season!!!!

    PREDICTIONSSS

    Dis-Chargedup will be touring with his cover band (blink182)into OAK this year and watch a real game!!! then come in here crying bout this and that cause we STOMPED ‘em!!!!!

    Duder MR and the rest will be exposed as Shills frauds and punksd along with thier buddy diorinisgay!!!

    Dakota, Double R, BSJ, S&B, O, Dogg, Mlone, dirty, TW, Will all repersent the RAIDUUUUHS tho the year cause the thick and thin bout to get THICK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    PLAYOFFBOUND!!!

  279. 909RaiderLifer Says:

    Speaking of radio.

    Heard that tub of goo, Sapp on Rome’s show this morning. He didn’t really hate on us today. Said that he was impressed with what Russell is doing. (holding private workouts) Garcia won’t back down from trying to get the #1 spot.

    And, no one on the defense knew/understood their assignments, and that some guys regularly slept during meetings……

  280. OAKlifer Says:

    What if just what if……………

    Lets just think for a moment about our Uncle AL and hizzz Crazy methods….Maybe he signed Southwick for a reason maybe Garcia was only brought in to make Jruss think he has to really work this offseason to keep his job Al tells garcia he has a chance to start in turn Garcia preps Hard and Pushes Jruss even if its just the little things then Al knew Full Well about this Strong Armed kid Southwick he plans on waiting out traing camp for a arm to go down then package a deal that sends Garcia and a combo of 1 out of four or 5 other players(u choose) in a deal to land either a Stud d-lineman or the coveted Saftey help we need or heck maybe even the REAL LB some of us are asking for!!!

    JUST might be CRAZY enough!!!!

    PLAYOFFBOUND!!!!!!!

  281. OAKlifer Says:

    Heard that tub of goo,

    Say no more!!!!!!!!!!1 LMFAO!!!!!!!!!

  282. OAKlifer Says:

    well almost that tome one grin to the other!! sorry I missed ya O, Stay up dogg!! till next time Raider on brothers!!!!

    Double R,

    Hope the splash of after-noon dash was sweet enough for ya!!!!

    PLAYOFFBOUND!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  283. 909RaiderLifer Says:

    Should add. That Sapp said that happened when he played here. (sleeping in meetings, no one knowing their assignments.)

  284. SnB Defense Says:

    KoolKell,

    My gut is telling me that Chaz Schilens is going to breakout this year. Congrats to Al Davis for the pick. As long as the kid stays healthy. He is combining his strong work ethic (notice his willingness to block and get dirty) with his physical gifts (height, weight speed). Any time you combine physical capability with the willingness to work…you get a great player.

    JLH is also underrated as a receiver. The guy showed an ability to get open, catch touchdowns and make a big play. He is going into his 3rd yr. I believe the lights are going to come on for this guy.

    Louis Murphy has the speed and I think “intangibles” are going to carry this kid a long way. Former team captain, has the (H/W/S) and is already a vocal guy willing to step up (like going to Russell’s passing camp w/o a contract)….He’s already ahead of D-HB.

    Then you have Javon Walker still out there. He probably feels his career is on the line. Competition this year at wide receiver is going to be intense.

    Oh…yes 7th overall picks should be contributors. Quite frankly, all 1st day picks for non-playoff teams should be contributors. That’s why the bad teams get higher picks than good teams.

    Outside of QB, these guys should be expected to start on day 1.

  285. OAKlifer Says:

    ****well almost that time one grind to the other!!

  286. RaiderRockstar Says:

    PLAYOFF BOUND!!!

    Gallery TO the PB!!!!!

    ***

    oh yeah! kool aid splash :) thanks man

  287. 909RaiderLifer Says:

    Rockstar…

    I posted the link to Capt. Kirk. on the previous thread. (around 4:00pm PDT.)

  288. HayesDaze37 Says:

    KoolKell Says:

    SnB
    What’s your point, that DHB was #7?
    And a #7 should be a contributor?

    ————————————————-

    Ummm…and what’s your point, KK? What makes you say DHB won’t contribute?

    Hammie problem? Rookie wall? A lack of Commitment (To Excellence)?

    Rookies don’t produce for the Raiders? Zach Miller looked pretty good as a rook — even led the league in receptions for rookie TE’s.

    Here’s a little (wiki) fun reminder of Bo Jackson:
    Jackson turned in a 221-yard rushing performance on Monday Night Football in 1987 against the Seattle Seahawks. During this game, he ran over Seahawks linebacker Brian Bosworth, who had insulted Jackson and promised in a media event before the game to contain Jackson. He also made a 91-yard run to the outside, untouched down the sideline. He continued sprinting until finally slowing down as he passed through the entrance to the field tunnel to the dressing rooms with teammates soon following. Jackson scored two rushing touchdowns and one receiving touchdown in the game…Jackson’s 221 yards on November 30, 1987, just 29 days after his first NFL carry, is still a Monday Night Football record.

    Remember a guy named Marcus Allen? The guy who was the NFL’s Offensive Rookie Of The Year?

    Even Mike Huff did an admirable job as a rookie, under the gun from the start.

    ————————————–

    These are perfect examples of how facts get left behind when some people try to make points.

    If DHB’s hammie is good to go, he has as much chance as any other WR prospect in the league — even Crabtree, who so many label as can’t-miss, even though he’s also got a bad wheel to start.

    Every now and then, a rookie WR breaks-out like they had in Philly last year with DeSean…

    Why not DHB? Because Al drafted him? Great thinking there.

    IF…IF…DHB “gets it” and is healthy, the sky’s the limit. Reality (NFL history) says it’s not likely he shines immediately — most WR’s do not — but the “limitations” some people see in their chances to excel are just silly.

    Lengthen that memory of yours, KK.

  289. HayesDaze37 Says:

    Oak — No offense — it’s the content that counts!

  290. RaiderDogg Says:

    Dakota Says:
    July 16th, 2009 at 1:25 pm
    RaiderDogg Says:
    July 16th, 2009 at 1:10 pm
    Dakota Says:
    July 16th, 2009 at 1:06 pm
    KK, ask to be HC next year….you are almost as qualified as Mr. Cable!”

    Wouldn’t work. You have to have a sense of humor to work for Al Davis. Kell would end up killing Al.
    ______________________

    and your point is???? lol”

    KK wouldn’t have the foresight to have the proper people in place for when he was sent up the river for killing Al.

    You on the other hand would have it all planned out, right down to the landfill…

  291. Dakota Says:

    At least we didn’t waste any picks in the supplemental draft!!!!

    VICTORY!

  292. RaiderDogg Says:

    What up Oak?

  293. HayesDaze37 Says:

    RRS — Somewhere off I-44…been through there many times. Beautiful, green, humid country. Too bad about Sulak!

  294. CantstandtheHaters Says:

    S&B, agreed, if DHB is healthy, he could contribute early with some screens, hitches and reverses. quick stuff to break him in. running the nine route is not that hard with the sideline to fall out and all, but i think he will need a year of lifting, like JLH, to be a reliable target going inside and becoming a more complete player. i dont see him bumping into Zach between the seams.

    but shows some toughness on those screens plus i saw him change the ball to the sideline in one highlite and little things like that and looks like he is hard to tackle with his wide frame running through armtackles

    he is a big dude that will go the distance if someone is not in a good position to put the pads on him. he is the McFadden we wanted lined up out there on an island.

    so yes he could be a factor in year one, especially with the talent thats lined up all over the field.

    jus t got my fingers crossed with that pulled hammy

  295. raideredoutL.A. Says:

    i see dhb pulling in about 15-20 balls this year with about 2-3 td’s. so i don’t expect much from him this year, hopefully he could stretch defenses out by catching a deep ball early in games to set up everyone else. that’ll be fulfilling 4 me

  296. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Somewhere off I-44…been through there many times. Beautiful, green, humid country. Too bad about Sulak!

    ***

    exactly right! yeah, Sulak was a player at Missouri. DE Dave Tollefson got cut by Oakland and went on to the Giants and won a Super Bowl. Stryker might just do the same. the kid has boat loads of potential. he’s better suited for a 3-4 defense though. not sure why we even drafted him!

  297. La Milicia Negra Says:

    LMN — Whether or not you agree with Scientology as a religion/cult/sect/whatever, your rating of them sure seems pretty self-righteous on YOUR part! I’m sure there are even a few Scientologists that read this blog…I’m sure they won’t find that an offensive comment!

    _____________________________________________________

    well I really dont care, i never have to meet them, Scientology and Mormons are a pyramid scam, and has nothing to do with religion.. its a pseudo-faith made to create money for those at the top of the pyramid…

    if you have to pay for salvation, its not much of a faith, huh?

  298. HayesDaze37 Says:

    Maybe they just don’t have the time to put into Sulak’s development. Hopefully he can play in this league. If nothing else, he’s got a chance to get into another camp — and Al did him that good turn. A couple of Mizzou prospects in the NFL this year…big news!

  299. HayesDaze37 Says:

    Go ahead and avoid the point, like usual LMN…

    The point was YOU were criticizing somebody else for being self-righteous (your own words again)…and then YOU turned right around and pontificated about somebody else’s religious faith.

    Whether or not you agree with their faith isn’t the point. The point is YOU continually ignore your own self-righteousness, and then take pot-shots at others for what you say is theirs.

    And saying you “really don’t care” can’t be true, or you wouldn’t have formed that opinion you’re so quick to insist is right…all because it’s yours.

  300. RaiderRockstar Says:

    HD: yeah, I thought Maclin was a great player, but not Top 10 great. I think he’ll be a good fit in Philly.

    McNabb can spread’em out now and pick a target.

    Deshaun Jackson, Kevin Curtis, Reggie Brown or Jeremy Maclin. Westbrook is a dangerous receiving threat too.

    Hank Baskett wasn’t even that bad filling in for the injured Curtis last season!

  301. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Maybe they just don’t have the time to put into Sulak’s development. Hopefully he can play in this league. If nothing else, he’s got a chance to get into another camp — and Al did him that good turn

    ***

    no kidding. Sulak was a project in Oakland. We should have tried him at strong side linebacker. That’s what he’ll be on another NFL team

  302. RaiderRockstar Says:

    time to clock out. see you fellas tomorrow!

    it’s been real :)

  303. HayesDaze37 Says:

    La Milicia Negra Says:

    …its a pseudo-faith made to create money for those at the top of the pyramid…

    if you have to pay for salvation, its not much of a faith, huh?

    ——————————————-

    Ummm, aren’t ALL man-conjured religions pseudo-faith? Why only Mormons and Scientologists? Don’t other organized religions’ followers pay to belong, too?

    I get it now…only the LMN-approved, DK version of religion is tolerated by you? That couldn’t be true, coming from someone with such an open-minded world view as you. Could it?

  304. La Milicia Negra Says:

    HD37…

    well, i have my opinions, i think im entitled to have them, but you shouldnt talk avoiding the point, should you?

    remember you called me a airweather fan, and I rebutted, and you nicely avoided it, as you always do, or disappear…

    you say you always talk fact, I dont claim such a thing, I only share my thoughts and what i think…

    you are the one who claim to be the judge of who is a real or fake fan, I say its binary, its not metric…

  305. KoolKell Says:

    LMN

    You ever hear of this guy

    Claus Christiansen, M.D
    Executive Director of Nordic Bioscience, Denmark.

  306. Dakota Says:

    Hey, only I get to pick on LMN!!!!

  307. CantstandtheHaters Says:

    wow, seems like Copenhagenfan is a damn good evaluater of character

  308. La Milicia Negra Says:

    HayesDaze37 Says:
    July 16th, 2009 at 3:03 pm

    Ummm, aren’t ALL man-conjured religions pseudo-faith? Why only Mormons and Scientologists? Don’t other organized religions’ followers pay to belong, too?
    ______________________________________________________

    because they are parasites on older faiths, made to make money…

  309. La Milicia Negra Says:

    # Dakota Says:
    July 16th, 2009 at 3:06 pm

    Hey, only I get to pick on LMN!!!!
    ____________________________________________________

    at least you are clever about it =) or funny =)

  310. 909RaiderLifer Says:

    WRUHH WROWWW.

    “Why do I workout so late in the afternoon? Is it because I’m lazy and don’t like to wake up early?”—Thomas Howard, from his twitter thingy.

    http://twitter.com/Mr53

  311. HayesDaze37 Says:

    LMN, I didn’t have to run far…just to the nearest online dictionary that shows I used the term for you EXACTLY right:

    Fairweather–adjective

    1. used in or intended for fair weather only.

    2. weakening or failing in time of trouble: His fair-weather friends left him when he lost his money.

    ———————————————

    Growing up when the Raiders had a few good runs tends to sour guys when things go bad. Even old fans like KK forget convenient facts when they make them look weak in debate.

    Description #2 is exactly what’s happened to Al over the last 6-years with many fickle fans (note, I didn’t insist they were all non-fans).

    Do I judge other peoples’ fanhood? Only when they contradict themselves with their own claims.

    So, read the definitions above and go look in the mirror LMN — you are the perfect example for a fairweather fan…one who conveniently forgets the great things somebody else did to build the team you call “yours” as soon as there’s a bad stretch.

    Oh…and the “hate” term used to describe how you feel about players on “your” team sure show what a die-hard fan you are, too.

    Wearing a cool hat, and logging-on every night just because you’re bored at work simply doesn’t qualify.

  312. KoolKell Says:

    How any idiot can call ANY Raider Fan, “Fairweather”, who’s still here during a NFL Record Losing Streak, is unfathomable. It says everything about that person’s intellect.

  313. KoolKell Says:

    How any idiot can call ANY Raider Fan, “Fairweather”, who’s still here during a NFL Record Losing Streak, is unfathomable. It says everything about that person’s intellect. DUMB. Throw your hands in the air, DUMB.

    Nap time.

  314. HayesDaze37 Says:

    La Milicia Negra Says:

    HayesDaze37 Says:
    Ummm, aren’t ALL man-conjured religions pseudo-faith? Why only Mormons and Scientologists? Don’t other organized religions’ followers pay to belong, too?
    ______________________________________________________

    because they are parasites on older faiths, made to make money…

    ——————————————-

    Again, LMN — You just don’t seem to see the double-edged sword of hypocrisy you’re swinging with abandon.

    Is it only the “older faiths” that count? What counts as a legitimate faith in LMN’s world?

    Druids, Wicca, wizards, and “faith-healers?”

    Methinks you need to go for a good old-world leeching/blood-letting, LMN…your mind is clogged.

  315. La Milicia Negra Says:

    HD37…

    HALLLOOOOO ANYBODY IN THERE????

    Mormons and Scientology would have nothing if it was for older faiths… is it that hard to comprehend?

    and both are made to make money to the top of the socalled church…

  316. HayesDaze37 Says:

    Where’s the cut-off for a “legit” religion, LMN?

    Please enlighten us with your world view on the subject.

    What is the date…or which religion…is the cut-off for when “real” religion begins and the fakes get left out?

    I’m not even a religious expert, but you’re not making a bit of sense with your point of “older faiths” being more legit than the newer ones. Why are they legit?

  317. beeecham Says:

    Krappy, I hope you mean a medication induced snooze and not a dirt nap. That would be a tacky way to go out.

    Either way, I’m glad you’re getting the rest a senile old fool like yourself requires. Most senior citizens in your age bracket sleep up to 18 hours a day, so you’re actually a bit under the norm.

    I hope your gal pal the Lady Raccoon doesn’t try to wake you with her incessant crying over the day time soaps. Man, you can hear that broad wailing all the way from North Sacramento!

  318. HayesDaze37 Says:

    Sorry, I got off football/sports there, LMN. You and me have enough disagreement there.

    I guess the point I’m trying to (unsuccessfully) make with you is…

    …that you often post something you don’t even realize is offensive to millions of people (i.e., un-educated/misinformed views of the U.S., slamming others’ religious beliefs, etc.)…and then you keep on truckin’ — completely (or conveniently) naive to what you just did.

    Ahhh…to be so blissfully unaware…

  319. La Milicia Negra Says:

    HD37..

    I dont know what makes a “legit” religion, but I know Scientology isnt one of them, though their european headquarters is here in Copenhagen, at one of the most expensive locations of course… they are not recognized here, and they are not allowed to call them a religion here, they are allowed to be here, nothing more…. in Germany they are illegal…

  320. HayesDaze37 Says:

    I know how Scientology is viewed in much of Europe (and here)…but saying a government has banned them doesn’t mean much in the larger scheme of things. If that’s why you don’t respect them, it starts explaining things.

    Was just wondering what the process was in deciding Mormonism and Scientology didn’t deserve the same recognition as others.

    Now that I know…that as long as your government says it’s not legit, then it must not be.

    Just shows how little original thought goes into at least one of your major viewpoints on life. No wonder we look at fan loyalty differently.

  321. 909RaiderLifer Says:

    Nnamdi on the PMS radio show NOW!

    http://www.am570radio.com listen live link at top.

    Or:FOX sports radio

  322. cornfieldraider Says:

    I want thank all of you negative posters for keeping me entertained every time I read this blog. I can honestly say that if I took to heart every negative thing said in here, I would be deeply depressed, believed in nothing, realized the Raiders will be a 2-14 team for the next 10 seasons, that I am wasting my time rooting for a loser team, that the US is the worst country in the world, and that I’m going to burn in h*ll since I don’t believe that Barak Obama is my country’s savior.

    I guess I better go stick my head in the sand again…

  323. DirtyRaccoon Says:

    Afternoon, HD37, LMN, KK, OAK, RR, 909

  324. HayesDaze37 Says:

    This is actually the post of the day, and deserves to be pasted again!

    cornfieldraider Says:

    I want thank all of you negative posters for keeping me entertained every time I read this blog. I can honestly say that if I took to heart every negative thing said in here, I would be deeply depressed, believed in nothing, realized the Raiders will be a 2-14 team for the next 10 seasons, that I am wasting my time rooting for a loser team, that the US is the worst country in the world, and that I’m going to burn in h*ll since I don’t believe that Barak Obama is my country’s savior.

    I guess I better go stick my head in the sand again…

    ———————————–

    Funny AND true!

  325. beeecham Says:

    Alright, its the Lady Raccoon! I guess her daily soaps are over and she’s looking for Krappy’s shoulder to cry on. However, I gotta say this budding relationship has disaster written all over it.

    First of all, the Lady Raccoon needs a lot of attention and Krappy could easily fall asleep with a dump in his pants during a heartfelt, tearful moment.

    Second, the Lady Raccoon loves to watch old musicals about tough street gangs who sang and danced and Krappy has no memory of anything. So it might be a bit tough to relate.

    Anyway, it’ll be interesting to see how their relationship blossoms – despite the roadblocks!

  326. 909RaiderLifer Says:

    “It’s a beautiful thing”—Nnamdi, when asked on what he thinks The Raiders chances are this year.

  327. 909RaiderLifer Says:

    ice COLD beer awaits, later…….

  328. beeecham Says:

    I’m in North Sacramento, Lady Raccoon. Remember I waited for you all day last week in South Sacramento at the Weinerschnitzel and you were to scared to meet me? Very embarrasing for you, Lady.

    Anyway, it sounds like you’re all worked up from a day of crying over All My Children, so I’d be happy to meet you. I’ve been wondering this whole time how much make up you wear in real life.

    So I’ll be at the Olive Garden in downtown at 6:30. And don’t flake again, Lady. KrappyKell might not be your gal pal if he knows what a scared little girl you really are.

  329. beeecham Says:

    Later, dudes. I’m off to enjoy some delicious bread sticks at Olive Garden and then whoop the Lady Raccoon’s butt for desert.

    But you know what’s going to happen – she’s not going to show because she “broke a nail” or some similarly lame chick excuse.

    Either way, I’ll tell you all about it tomorrow. At least I know the bread sticks will show up.

  330. cornfieldraider Says:

    Gotta love the internet tough guys…I better be careful or someone will beat up my computer.

  331. M Lonetree Says:

    To directly quote HayesDaze, “what a great day to be a Raider fan”!

    from perusing commentaries from this vast world of opnion and thought, I do believe that I have pieced it together.
    Stryker Sulak is a hybrid of Scientological-Mormonism and so he didn’t fit the Old-time philosophic ways.
    Rob Ryan is a Moonie from back in the ’70’s and that is why his words are always empty.
    Keith Davis is just plain undermanned in the cranium.
    and
    There is no QB controversy. Mr Carmella is to JRuss what Clemens was to Dave Stewart. Owned.
    and, to steal the chant of Guamanian Raider (wherever he might be), “Raider On”.

  332. gilbert Says:

    322,cornfieldraider,right on the money!Most of the posters are Raider fans,some are here for different reasons,FAKERS,AND those pissed off at the last SIX years,which includes ALL OF US!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! We will win this year,if not,I WILL BE MORE PISSED OFF this time next year!! 9-7 at LEAST RAIDERS!!!!

  333. cornfieldraider Says:

    If I was as depressed as some of the “fans” in here, I would find a new sport to follow, like curling, field hockey, or ,*gasp*, soccer.

    I start every year enthusiastic and lately have ended every year ready to put a brick through my TV. But come training camp I always see 9 wins or more.

    I know to some that makes me a homer, but I could care less what those people think.

    All are wlecome to post here and I seriously use this blog as my daily dose of comedy.

  334. M Lonetree Says:

    Gilbert,

    if I take my head out of the sand long enough to acknowledge anything I wouldn’t be pissed off at the Raiders’ past six years. Shrug…sh!t happens for many a reason or no reason at all.
    Assessing blame is the game.
    Not everything in this life from any vantage is going to be successful. You try this, WOOHOO! You try that, OH CRAP. You try something else, HUH?!?!?
    A losing streak may result in some hurt feelings or a suicide in an extreme case as a by-product, but it is not a global war nor the destruction of a way of life.
    The idiots, yes the idiots here, who harp on negativity day in and day out vis-a-vis the Oakland Raiders are those who should better find, without naming a circumstance, something more contrite or honest to do with their time on Earth.
    I’ll go back and bury my head in the sand now.

  335. La Milicia Negra Says:

    —”Oh…and the “hate” term used to describe how you feel about players on “your” team sure show what a die-hard fan you are, too.”—

    Im pretty sure he isnt a part of this team… and I HATE the pick not him, I hate we wasted a great pick on a buy with a bum knee, with an intellect lower than my aunts cat, I hate we wasted a pick on a position we did not need, when we were so damn thin at other positions…

    result, we still cant stop the run, we still cant pass protect… thats what i HATE…

    oh yeah, but I sure dont like him “you know” (pun intended, the smart ones will get this one, so im sure you will too *cough*)

  336. RaiderTW Says:

    cornfieldraider Says:
    …that the US is the worst country in the world, and that I’m going to burn in h*ll since I don’t believe that Barak Obama is my country’s savior.
    —————
    That’s YOUR side of the line that claims that. It’s the classic “cover people you disagree with s#!t & claim they stink” Typical “your side” You lost for a reason.

  337. cornfieldraider Says:

    TW,

    I have no side. I’m not the one painting labels here. I’m independent.

  338. SouthTexasRaider Says:

    whats going on my brothers of the nation….

    its been awhile but im here…

    there is nothing worse than raider hating raider fans that come in here to bring down the rest of us. dont listen to these no faith raiders fans because at the seasons end, they will be the ones cheering the most.

    call me crazy, but i say 9-7….or maybe even a possible 10-6 barring any injuries, having some come from behind wins and most of all the underdog wins.

    EVERYTHING WILL FALL IN LINE IN 09.
    RAIDER FAHQIN NATION BABY!

  339. SouthTexasRaider Says:

    classic LMN on 337

  340. KoolKell Says:

    “there is nothing worse than raider hating raider fans”
    ——————–
    There’s no such thing. That’s an oxymoron. From a moron.

  341. SouthTexasRaider Says:

    dam….u frequent this mofo enough and still say there is no such thing…..lol

    so your the blind leading the blind….makes sense you dont see them.

    im out.

  342. KoolKell Says:

    There are critical Raider Fans, for sure.

  343. La Milicia Negra Says:

    STR…

    good to have ya back =)

  344. La Milicia Negra Says:

    Raiders about to sign sixth-round tight end
    Posted by Aaron Wilson on July 16, 2009 8:40 PM ET

    Apparently, the Oakland Raiders don’t have any problem with sixth-round tight end Brandon Myers.

    Unlike Stryker Sulak, the Raiders’ other sixth-round rookie who was abruptly cut from the team without being given a reason last week, the Raiders plan to bring Myers to training camp.

    The Raiders are on the verge of signing Myers to a four-year deal that includes a signing bonus of just over $90,000, according to a league source.

    The former University of Iowa player’s contract will include minimum base salaries and a fourth-year escalator clause that could boost the total value of the deal significantly.

    Myers is a two-time All-Big Ten Conference selection.
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    Raider O… here is your guy, I still root for Tony Stewart to be above him on the roster, but as we discussed we need a guy for the future to hold the TE2 spot, and a year together with both Z.Miller and Stewart will do him good, and it would be good for him to learn that he will only be TE2 as long we have Z.Miller, and Stewart will be fantastic for that job, he is a great team-guy….

  345. Coach on Wheels Says:

    well I’m hopeful for 2009 and think the team will improve in several areas. The problem is going to bee the schedule the Raiders face.

    SD (loss) I’d love a major upset but the Raiders haven’t beat SD in forever. A week 1 match means LT, Gates and Merriman will all likely be healthy. Couldn’t handled the banged up Bolts last year.

    @KC – (Win) Yeah the Chefs stink BUT every year we split with them. Fortunately we win in KC.

    DEN – (Win) Got destroyed by Denver at home last year but no Cutler or Shannahan. No D Hall either.

    @Hou – (Win) This is a must win game between two middle of the pack teams. These are the games we have to have to sniff .500.

    @NYG – (Loss) Raiders fans get to see what real “talent” on the D-line looks like. Suddenly Sands and Kelly look even more overpaid.

    Phi – (Win) The Raiders actually match up well against the Eagles west coastish offense. With no power ground game Philly makes Oakland’s D look decent after it got worked by NY.

    NYJ – (win) The hapless Jets are worse than the 08 tea m Oakland handled at home.

    @SD – (loss) After two weeks of looking grea t against teams with no power running game, our D gets mualed in a shootout.

    BYE – At 5-3 Raider fans are talking playoffs and ignoring the team’s ugly habit of getting thumped by power runners.

    KC – (win) Coming off a bye they finally sweep the Chefs.

    Cin – (loss) It is either here or earlier against Philly that the Raiders find a way to lose a close one at home. Most folks will say it’ll be the Philly game. I see a 6-3 team getting cocky and blowing it here.

    @Dal – (loss) The short week and national audience jinx are too much. A blowout.

    @Pit – (loss) Another powerhouse team runs over the D.

    Was (win) – A suddenly 6-6 tea m stops the bleeding and notches win 7 for the first time in 7 years.

    @Den – (loss) Snow eliminates the Raider’s speed. Donks win a sloppy nail-biter.

    @Clev – (win) The Raiders only real hope to hit .500 means they have to win aga inst teams like Houston and Cleveland and upset Philly or bea t Cincy. They out-ugly Cleveland for 8-7 and a slim pla yoff hope.

    Bal (loss) The Raiders are mathmaticly elimina ted before the playoff bound Ravens get a cha nce to slap them around.

    8-8 2 nd in AFC West

    Unless they upset Bal, Pit, Dal or SD or NYG the Raiders have 6 losses right off. The sad reality is if they go 2-2 vs KC and Den aga in, they’re 8 losses in with six toss-up games. Go 3-3 and it is a long 5-11 season.

  346. La Milicia Negra Says:

    COW…

    8-8…hmm that sure is hopeful, well I hope youre right on this one, well you usually are, but still, I have my doubts..

    I think 6 wins, at least that is progress, but that would put Cables job in danger, and we dont need another coach/philosophy change, so I hope you are right, I believe that would make Al less feisty =)

  347. SnB Defense Says:

    Coach on Wheels,

    Nice analysis. I actually agree with it. The BIG issue for this team in 2009 is going to be the run defense.

    Look at that schedule. Those are a bunch of PHYSICAL TEAMS that love to run the football and have good O-Lines. Every NFC East and AFC North team has bruising line play on both sides….even Cincy has big Andre Smith…Cleveland has Joe Thomas and Alex Mack…and Pittsburgh and Baltimore need no more discussion around here.

    Better get ready for physical football. Especially in the Fall. No more Kirk Morrison making tackles 5 yards down the field after getting mauled by an OG….and Samson Satele is going to get a 3/4 workout.

  348. SnB Defense Says:

    Interestingly enough…with Asomugha and C. Johnson able to really put pressure on opposing receivers….John Marshall has no excuse to not have an attacking defense that pressures the QB and can slam the run.

    Most of the opponents on that schedule are going to try and pound the football first.

  349. La Milicia Negra Says:

    SnB…

    Run Defense is paramount, absolutely. But Pass protection is a close 2nd… I have no trust in Barnes, but I would love to have him prove me wrong, but I sure hope Henderson gets the LT…

  350. SouthTexasRaider Says:

    good analysis COW.

    though we win one against the dolts for sure, maybe an upset and win both. my guess is we lose just one division rival game…..yes, just one.

    good nite raider nation,

    have faith, peace.

  351. La Milicia Negra Says:

    STR…

    LOL, well you now me, my faith is gone, Al robbed it from me long time ago =)

  352. Kirk Says:

    Until Davis starts drafting linemen in the first round, we will be losers. The game is won on the line.

  353. La Milicia Negra Says:

    Kirk, so true…

    well thats it for me, my weekend starts now, just have to go home an sleep first =)

    see y’all, take care..

  354. SnB Defense Says:

    La Milicia Negra Says:
    July 16th, 2009 at 7:30 pm
    SnB…

    Run Defense is paramount, absolutely. But Pass protection is a close 2nd… I have no trust in Barnes, but I would love to have him prove me wrong, but I sure hope Henderson gets the LT…
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    Yes, pass protection is a close 2nd. The NFC East, Ravens,Steelers, Texans and Chargers all bring the heat and they are physical and tough. The O-Line has to make it work as well.

    They better be getting JaMarcus and the O-Line up to speed on reading blitz pressure.

  355. KoolKell Says:

    new post

  356. gilbert Says:

    post336,M Lonetree ,Raiders mean much to me since Ive followed them since,well,Tom Flores was the FIELD GENERAL,the MAN,as QB.But since 9/11,the Raiders and SfGiants have continued to numb the pain of that day ,cant shake it,but wont stop me from escape thru sports.Thanks for the thoughts in post,brings me back to Family,Friends,country and get youre head OUT of the sand

  357. RaiderRobG Says:

    Ha Ha Ha! Even the great Jerry Rice affirms my wisdom.

    Not only is Murphy the second coming of 81 and this years Colston, he will make all of us wish the Raiders used the 7th pick on a defensive stud!

    DHB = Ricky Dudley with even worse hands.

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