Asomugha: Coaching turnover has hurt
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Friday, July 17th, 2009 at 12:32 pm in Oakland Raiders.
Highlights of an interview with Raiders cornerback Nnamdi Asomugha on the “Petros and Money” show on KLAC (570-AM) in Los Angeles:
Q: How much does the coaching fluctuation play into the team’s poor record over the past six years?
Asomugha: A huge part. It plays a huge part. We can leave football and go to any company in the world. When your head person, the head guy in charge, is leaving every single year, that’s tough for the employees, it’s tough for the focus of the company to move in the right direction, and that’s been one of the problems with us. One of the things that has hurt us has been the coaching changes throughout the year, so it’s great to have Cable back, maybe that will help us a lot more.
Q: What changed when Cable took over? What did he do that caused the powers that be to bring him back?
Asomugha: He didn’t change too much. We were in the middle of the season and he didn’t want it to be like this big shock factor where everything changes and we’re trying to start all over. He was just trying to continue with what he had, and tried to build on it. But what we were able to do in those last two games, what shocked a lot of people, in getting those victories against teams that were essentially playoff teams, so that was one thing that led to the rehiring or bringing him back for this year and guys believe him, guys want to play for him.
Q: Does Al Davis text you up in the offseason, what’s it like working for him?
Asomugha: I don’ even know if he’s even into Twitter and all that stuff. It’s great working for him. First of all, he doesn’t come out all the time. People always want to know if he’s always at practice. He’ll come out every now and then, maybe once a week, just to see how the team is playing, or see how the team is preparing, but Al is a guy who wants to win, and I think that’s what gets guys going. You’re looking for a guy who wants to win so badly, and he’ll go whatever lengths he has to get that job done.
Q: Regarding the AFC West is Jay Cutler worth two first-round draft picks and mortgaging the future as Chicago did?
Asomugha: I don’t know. I think that might say a lot about the quarterback they had before Jay, more than it says about Jay, actually. Jay is definitely a great player and, you throw great around a lot, but he’s one of the top quarterbacks in the league. In my opinion, in our division, he was always one of the guys that was tough to prepare for, because he had the confidence to throw anywhere and to do anything he wanted to do. I think it’s going to be a great fit for Chicago. I didn’t understand Denver’s reasoning for letting him go because I felt he was going to help them out a lot.
Q: Talk about how difficult it is to play cornerback, how you go about handling the position . . .you’ve got to be kind of a cocky, A-hole to play that position . . .
Asomugha: It’s got to be in you It’s got to be in you somewhere. Not necessarily an A-hole but you have to have this air, you have to have this confidence inside of you, because once you lose it, the moment you lose it, you’ve lost the battle. You have to go into every play saying, I’m going to dominate this receiver that’s across from me . . . in the scheme we play in Oakland, it’s man-to-man, 95 percent of the time, and you just don’t see that anywhere else in the league, so it’s a very difficult position to play especially against the athletes that we’re going up against.
Q: Ever feel like you’re on your own out there like a lone gunman, on your own . . .
Asomugha: All the time. There’s time in the middle of the game where you’re thinking, `is anyone going to talk to me?’ The rest of the defense is taking care of business, you’re by yourself. You always feel by yourself. It’s not like a defensive lineman, where you’ve got a guy to the left and the right of him. We’re out there, 10 yards from everybody else.
Q: How important is that defensive line?
Asomugha: Rod Woodson always used to tell me, show me a great cornerback and I’ll show you a great pass rusher on that same team, and I think it works both ways. No one can cover for five, six seconds, four seconds, at that, so any time you’ve got a guy on the defensive line or a couple of guys, as we have now, as we’ve brought Greg Ellis from the Cowboys, a couple of guys that can get that pass rush, you’re going to make life much easier on the corners on the island.
Q: One guy that just is tough, harder than anyone else?
Asomugha: I would say Randy Moss. I’ve said it a few times now, any time I get the question, that’s going to be the answer. There are several receivers in the league that are above everyone else and you’re going to have to always bring you’re A-game for them, but Moss is a guy who always seems to be in his prime. Even as he ages, you wonder when he’s going to slow down, when he’s going to stop with all the tricks on the field. When I say tricks I mean, the mental games that he plays with his guys in terms of changing his routes, changing up his stance and things like that. He’s a guy you’ve got to be prepared for each and every snap. And I played with him for two years, but still couldn’t figure him out the way that I would have liked to. I would say Moss.
Note: According to his P.R. firm, Asomugha will throw out the first pitch Sunday when the Oakland A’s host the Los Angeles Angels.
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July 17th, 2009 at 12:46 pm
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OAKlifer Says:
July 17th, 2009 at 12:19 pm
It shouldn’t be that hard to figure out especially if you claim to be a “sports writer” for SI.
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LOL @ these punks Bro Jerry Mac and Double R report better than 3/4 of the national media!!! He!l even KK is often times more subjective than that!!! they are no better than us “well those of us with degrees” that have had some sort of in at a swank local news paper and after summiting enough garbage to SI/Bspn/cbssports
they finaly got a shot now theye report thing like this!!!! LOL again at these chumps!!!!
~“his jump-and-catch skill is one reason why Michael Crabtree was bypassed in favor of speedy Purdue wideout Darrius Heyward-Bey. ”~CBSSPORTS
……lol
July 17th, 2009 at 12:46 pm
wow I mean FIRST!!!!!
July 17th, 2009 at 12:51 pm
Hahahah, good one Oak.lol
July 17th, 2009 at 12:56 pm
The coaching turnover has hurt. Huh. I wish someone would tell me something I didn’t already know. That must be why Peyton Manning lobbied to keep Tom Moore on even tho Moore wanted to retire. Manning has had 1 offensive coordinator in 170+ starts. Jamarcus has had 3 in 16 starts. I wonder if that makes any difference??
July 17th, 2009 at 1:17 pm
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July 17th, 2009 at 1:21 pm
Oakglenn Says:
July 17th, 2009 at 12:56 pm
The coaching turnover has hurt. Huh. I wish someone would tell me something I didn’t already know. That must be why Peyton Manning lobbied to keep Tom Moore on even tho Moore wanted to retire. Manning has had 1 offensive coordinator in 170+ starts. Jamarcus has had 3 in 16 starts. I wonder if that makes any difference??
=======================================================Its amazing that peopl overlook that fact. Russell didn’t do any complaining either. Just took everything in stride and kept working at it. And after he got comfortable with the same offense/playcalling…he started doing really well. 90 QB rating in the last 7 games
July 17th, 2009 at 1:34 pm
SNB,
Not entirely true… There are a SH*TLOAD of Russell haters blogging right here that never listened when we all bring that point up. We’ve been saying that since the first guy uttered “bust” and Jamarcus in the same sentence. However, these are the same guys that think Garcia is the best QB on our roster, which gives them close to zero credibility. Again, I’m not hating on Garcia, I like that we signed him and think he’ll push Russell to get better faster, but last I check, these guys were on the field playing against eachother and Russell plain out played him….
so, not everyone overlooks those little facts, just the ones that need to to support their Raider-Bashing.
July 17th, 2009 at 1:40 pm
AZ Raider,
Jeff Garcia is a big distraction. I was “okay” with the signing at first. But his politicking for the job in the media is pathetic
July 17th, 2009 at 1:42 pm
SnB,
It’s ok, it might be good for Russell to know someone is trying to take his spot. It won’t happen, but still copetition is good IMO.
July 17th, 2009 at 1:43 pm
AZ i think i disagree with u on point. As of right now, I feel Garcia is the best QB on the roster. Not the most talented QB, or strongest QB, but he definitely understands the nuances and has the ability to understand and read a defense better than JaMarcus at this point in J-Russ’ career. That being said, i think J-Russ should DEFINITELY be the starting QB for the Raiders, because as the season goes on, hopefully J-Russ will improve in the areas hes shown weakness, and become the best QB on the roster.
I think that with the solid ground game, and emergence of some young WRs (Im really excited about Murphy, great work ethic on the guy) i think J-Russ will have the weapons necessary to develop. The key question is the O-Line. We have to take Cables word on Khalif Barnes and Setele. Im not too keen on doing that given the Kwame Harris debacle, but i guess Cable deserves the benefit of the doubt.
If the O-Line does its job, it should help in all aspects of the game. The running and passing game will improve, as will the defense if the Raider O can keep the ball for more than a few snaps at a time.
just my thoughts.
July 17th, 2009 at 1:46 pm
7-9
July 17th, 2009 at 1:47 pm
Russell takes a lot of heat. The bottom line is that the coaches and organization failed him this year more than anything.
How Kwame Harris, Ronald Curry, Ashlie Lelie and an injured Javon Walker ever got as many snaps is beyond me.
Evaluate the QB when he has NFL talent around him
July 17th, 2009 at 1:51 pm
Bong,
Cool handle by the way…
How did Garcia get so good at reading defenses and all the QB nuances, etc…???
Well, the 400 years he’s been playing as a slightly above average NFL QB sure puts alot of experience on the table LOL.
I’m just hating on the guys who say Garcia should start. That’s just retarded. Give the kid some stability, and vet back-up and some targets and watch. He’ll be fine. And if he never come through, so be it. I’d still draft another QB rather than start Garcia.
July 17th, 2009 at 1:52 pm
RR,
LMAO!! Allah can only do so much!!
July 17th, 2009 at 1:54 pm
Who said Bong?!
Legalize it!
July 17th, 2009 at 1:54 pm
The issue with Russell was Kiffin did not believe in him, and Kiffin did everything to insure that Kiffin was right and everyone else in the universe was wrong. Kiffin would not let him audible, Kiffin would not put the ball in his hands to win games, even after Russell was playing fairly well. Contrast that to a Matt Ryan, or Joe Flacco, where the coaches publicly came out and supported, let them call their own plays, and believed in them. They flourished. Again, do you think it makes a difference??
July 17th, 2009 at 1:56 pm
Post 10 “O”
Raider Bong! I like it!
Leagalize it!
July 17th, 2009 at 1:56 pm
AZ Raider Says:
July 17th, 2009 at 1:51 pm
Bong,
Cool handle by the way…
How did Garcia get so good at reading defenses and all the QB nuances, etc…???
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Having Bill Walsh and Steve Young as mentors sure did not hurt his QB development.
July 17th, 2009 at 1:57 pm
TW,
On the way to pray I started praying for all of you, but when I Said your name odd things started to happen.
My car started making noises, and it started to over heat!!
I asked god to forgive me, and forget about your prayer.
I don’t think he likes you too much!
July 17th, 2009 at 1:58 pm
Maybe I’m bias cause I can’t stand all that running around and the F*CKING JUMP PASS!!! FOR CRYING OUT LOUD, PLANT YOUR FEET, LOOK DOWNFIELD AND DELIVER IT CAFFINE BOY! Na, I still got love for you Jeff, but the kids our starter…
July 17th, 2009 at 1:59 pm
Good point Oakglenn
July 17th, 2009 at 2:00 pm
Raider Bong,
I want to chat with you, but I want to hit you even more!
Legalize it, and hit the Bongs!!
July 17th, 2009 at 2:00 pm
Oakglenn,
Lane Kiffin had no business being the head coach in the first place!
July 17th, 2009 at 2:02 pm
AZ,
It looks like he’s running to save his life, but he’s trying to see between the Oline.
He reminds me of Doug F.
July 17th, 2009 at 2:02 pm
Lane Kiffin HAD NO NFL CREDENTIALS! NONE!
Yet he was given the keys to develop a #1 overall pick.
I am still burning at the fact that the Raiders WASTED two years with Kiffin.
NO BUSINESS BEING AN NFL COACH
July 17th, 2009 at 2:03 pm
My girl is at home right now hitting mine
She just text me to tell me she filled my jar up for me. I guess I gotta hand it to her for doing that without being asked
July 17th, 2009 at 2:05 pm
O,
you said it right there. I can’t hate on him too much though because he is wearing silver & black and I’m a loyalist. Go Jeff! Besides, I never hate on the 9ers either… I’m a bay area boy ya know?
July 17th, 2009 at 2:07 pm
Russell attitude through all this chaos has been exemplary.
He has shown real leadership and all the rhetoric against him is from those who want to saddle the Raiders with another retread 2-yr washout.
Garcia needs to compete in camp and keep his comments out of the media.
July 17th, 2009 at 2:13 pm
SnB,
The only thing Kiffin did wrong was NOT kneel at the alter of Al, unlike the boot lickn kiss ass Tom Cable. The team played for Kiffin, his game plans kept them in alot of games they shouldnt have been and he is a good football mind. I would take Kiffin over Cable any day of the week. Tom Cable wouldnt have ever had a sniff at an NFL head job if not for his over the top “Raiders are my dream job” shpeil and he wont ever sniff another job after.
July 17th, 2009 at 2:15 pm
Dude Says:
July 17th, 2009 at 2:13 pm
SnB,
The only thing Kiffin did wrong was NOT kneel at the alter of Al,
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So trying an 80 yard FG to end the half was a good idea?? Dud you may have topped yourself with that comment.
July 17th, 2009 at 2:17 pm
Dude,
I was a Kiffin supporter when he was here. But still, he shouldn’t have been hired in the first place.
He wasn’t even the O.C at U.S.C.
At least Tom Cable WANTS the job and is trying his best to make it work.
After going through TERRIBLE COACH AFTER TERRIBLE COACH and hearing about in-fighting and theatrics….Tom Cable is a breath of fresh air. He understands the reporting relationship and is focused on coaching the players he’s given.
July 17th, 2009 at 2:18 pm
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July 17th, 2009 at 2:20 pm
SnB Defense Says:
July 17th, 2009 at 2:07 pm
Russell attitude through all this chaos has been exemplary.
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SnB you are exactly right. He really has been exemplary thru all of this. Especially considering that he came out after his junior year and was essentially the youngest starting Q in the league I believe. Russell is a pretty special young man.
July 17th, 2009 at 2:20 pm
SnB,
Why in the world does Garcia need to keep his comments out of the media? The dude is fiery and wants to compete. WTF is the guy supposed to say if a reporter asks him if he is content being the backup? I wouldnt even want a guy who is content being a backup on my team. If Garcia shows up to camp and lights the world on fire and conversly Russell shows up fat, out of shape and innacurate who should play in your world? Its best man wins, period end.
July 17th, 2009 at 2:25 pm
Dude,
Garcia is an average QB at best. I am tired of the Garcia hype machine. I am sure that Charlie Frye (a former starter) believes that he should start if he performs the best in camp. What is Garcia really saying? Who the hell wouldn’t want to be the guy if they feel they are the best on the team.
Here is what Garcia is really saying:
Garcia: Look, I am better than JaMarcus Russell. I’ve played in this league for 10 years and I am a winner. Russell has only played for a year and can’t hold my water. Look, you know and I know that I am the best guy…and if I don’t start, its because of politics”
Dude, that is what Garcia is really saying. A real competitor will say, I will do my best and its up to the coaches.
Garcia is clowning himself…and its embarrassing given his elder status
July 17th, 2009 at 2:26 pm
Kiffin was the OC at SC number 1. He called the plays and when he left SCs offense took a big step back. Cable is a breath of fresh air? There is no “fresh air”, all he does is spew out the same BS rhetoric as Al Davis does. He KNEW what he had to do to get the job and he executed the plan to perfection. This team needs real change and Tom Cable is anything but. Kiffin obviously knew he had to go away from Al Davis’s ideas and thats what got him sheet canned. Tom Cable is nothing but a white Art Shell and the results WILL be the same.
July 17th, 2009 at 2:27 pm
What I would ask Jeff Garcia is this:
“Why did Tampa Bay bench you at the beginning of the season?”
“Why couldn’t you LEAD your team to one more victory out of 5 games to get into the playoffs?”
“Why did Tampa cut you when their QB position is still in flux?”
July 17th, 2009 at 2:28 pm
He never said anything close to that and frankly you are embarrasing yourself with this argument. Answer me this: WHAT HAPPENS IF GARCIA SHOWS UP AND OUTPLAYS RUSSELL IN CAMP?
July 17th, 2009 at 2:31 pm
Answer me this: WHAT HAPPENS IF GARCIA SHOWS UP AND OUTPLAYS RUSSELL IN CAMP?
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Dude: Russell will still start and we’ll be better for it (in the long run)
I just hope it doesn’t divide the locker room!
July 17th, 2009 at 2:32 pm
Oakglenn Says:
July 17th, 2009 at 2:15 pm
Dude Says:
July 17th, 2009 at 2:13 pm
SnB,
The only thing Kiffin did wrong was NOT kneel at the alter of Al,
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So trying an 80 yard FG to end the half was a good idea?? Dud you may have topped yourself with that comment.
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Oakglenn, you took the post right off my finger tips LOL!!! I was about to point out the same bone-head call. Kiffin was a cancer, and gave up in week 1 after getting our arses handed to us on Monday night. 75 yd FG try… What a goon.
July 17th, 2009 at 2:33 pm
Al Davis screwed up again with his coaching hires. He has rarely gotten the coaching thing right since Flores.
Kiffin did not understand, or ignored, the way that Al Davis runs his team. Kiffin had access to Jon Gruden and his own father and others that could give him the rundown on the actual freedoms he would have as a coach.
So that leads me to believe that Kiffin may have taken the job just to get by. The final straw was when Kiffin correctly tried to fire Rob Ryan and Davis inexplicably denied him.
Look, coaching for Al Davis has its own rules. Why Al doesn’t try to find a coach that embraces his ideas…working style all these years is beyond me.
Finally, the Raiders have a guy Tom Cable (a Kiffin hire) who is a guy that is going in trying to make this work.
July 17th, 2009 at 2:34 pm
I’ll answer you Dude…
Nothing… Russell will start unless he does a complete face plant or gets injured. Try rooting for the Patriots if you need a Dynasty to be a fan of. Eventually the Raiders will get back to form.
July 17th, 2009 at 2:35 pm
Dude Says:
July 17th, 2009 at 2:28 pm
He never said anything close to that and frankly you are embarrasing yourself with this argument. Answer me this: WHAT HAPPENS IF GARCIA SHOWS UP AND OUTPLAYS RUSSELL IN CAMP?
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First of all…I clearly stated in my post what I thought Garcia really meant by his comments…but forget that.
I don’t care how good Garcia does in camp. I would rather see Charlie Frye, Gratkowski or that Southwick kid play long-term before Garcia coming out of camp. Why? Teams that fail to develop a QB are rarely if ever successfull.
You have to develop a long-term solution to the Quarterback position…and a 39 yr old short-armed QB who was CUT from his prior QB challenged team is no answer for this young Raider offense
July 17th, 2009 at 2:36 pm
If Russell lays a big egg and Garcia lights it up and Russell STILL starts it will divide the team. Guaranteed.
SnB,
You are basically making sheet up about Garcias comments. I just went back and read what he has had to say and he has gone out his way to say Russell is the starter. He has also said the best man should win and if Russell is the better man then hes the better man. Why are you going to such extremes here? Garcia hasnt said a damn thing wrong.
July 17th, 2009 at 2:38 pm
If Russell cant beat out a weak armed QB who was cut by a QB challenged team, what the hell does that say about him?
How in the funk do you pretend to know what Garcia really meant?
July 17th, 2009 at 2:41 pm
Dude,
What happens if Russell destroys Garcia in camp and they start Garcia?
Your arguments are just to argue… Get over it. Throw away all your silver & black and buy some blue and gold brother. The Nation no longer requires your services.
July 17th, 2009 at 2:41 pm
AZ,
Try shutting your hole for 2 seconds. You are in way over your head here. Stick with Raider 0, he is a fellow kool aid drinkn homer like yourself.
July 17th, 2009 at 2:42 pm
#46 by AZ= by far the dumbest post ever written on this site.
July 17th, 2009 at 2:43 pm
Trust me… By your posts, I’m no where near over my head.
NEXT!
July 17th, 2009 at 2:43 pm
Dude Says:
July 17th, 2009 at 2:38 pm
If Russell cant beat out a weak armed QB who was cut by a QB challenged team, what the hell does that say about him?
How in the funk do you pretend to know what Garcia really meant?
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How many backup QBs you hear about going to the media repeatedly to talk about “best man wins” Give me a break. Is Todd Collins on the radio talking about his camp competition with Jason Campbell? How about Tyler Thigpen raising cain in K.C or Chris Simms in Denver?
Garcia is politicking. That’s why every little thing he says get snapped up by an incompetent media and spun as a QB controversy.
Again I ask, why would Tampa cut Jeff Garcia after a 9-7 season and a newly drafted rookie. Wouldn’t they want Garcia to mentor the kid.
Please….
July 17th, 2009 at 2:44 pm
AZ,
That a great girl, a keeper!!
July 17th, 2009 at 2:45 pm
That was my bushism of the day I guess LOL!
YOU are no where near being over MY head Dude. Your football IQ drops every time you post.
July 17th, 2009 at 2:45 pm
…and everyone elses takes a shot too LOL
July 17th, 2009 at 2:45 pm
LOL!! All I can do is laugh at an idiot like you. Guys like SnB, JHill and OAKglenn at least know something about something and have enough info to have a convo with. Your just a fool. ” My friend says DHB has GREAT hands.” LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
July 17th, 2009 at 2:47 pm
Glad you back O, I was about to put my boots on, its getting deep in here LOL.
July 17th, 2009 at 2:49 pm
Dude,
Dumber than your post about Matt L?!!
Nothing has been said so far to top that. lol
July 17th, 2009 at 2:50 pm
Dude,
I already punkt you with the your “every scout says” B.S. What now? What would you like to have a conversation about? It can’t be the Raiders because there is no talking to you about the Raiders, just you bashing anything positive that is said. It is obvious you don’t think there is anything positive so why are you here? Why wear the colors? Why? Why? Why? Is it you commitment to excellence? so far you’ve only shown me one commitment, and that’s hating the raiders.
July 17th, 2009 at 2:52 pm
Dude,
Why waste your time on a couple of Homers like AZ and me?
July 17th, 2009 at 2:54 pm
If your soooooo tired of the Raiders leave them. It might have even been you that said when Al’s gone the Raiders will still be there. Well, I garantee the Raiders need Al more than they need you as a fan to succeed. I wouldnt want to sit next to a guy like you at the game anyway.
July 17th, 2009 at 2:54 pm
If Russell lays a big egg and Garcia lights it up and Russell STILL starts it will divide the team. Guaranteed.
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I seriously doubt that a 39 year old QB without a big arm is going to be head & shoulders better than a 23 year old QB with a rocket arm, especially when Al Davis wanted Hackett & Tollner to bring back the Air Coryell or Mad Bomber style offense
July 17th, 2009 at 2:55 pm
How’s the day goin O?
July 17th, 2009 at 2:59 pm
Dude,
I don’t think a team can win consistently trading one retread-vet after another.
Unless Russell get injured after a successfull start, Garcia has limited benefit to this team. He’s here to fill in for a SUCCESSFULL Russell in the event of injury.
Any other reason would be to take the season and toss it in the circular file. The Raiders need to know what they have in Russell and the only way to get a definitive answer to that question…is to have Russell play in games with decent talent around him.
Anything else will not improve the franchise.
Winning 6 to 8 games with Garcia has no value whatsoever.
July 17th, 2009 at 2:59 pm
It’s a great day to be a Raiders fan. Isn’t it?
vegas raider Says:
Has anyone ever joined one of these Raider’s official booster clubs. Met this dude who runs the Vegas chapter out here, he seems kind of crazy and it is like $100 a year, but they do charity stuff and seems legit. Just curious if anyone has ever done it.
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Vegas — The Oakland Raiders have more officially-recognized fan clubs than most other NFL teams do.
I would recommend you first compare the club you heard about to the official fan club list on raiders.com .
The clubs on that official list are approved by the Raiders organization only after meeting stingent requirements. Official clubs are NON-PROFIT, and they do a lot for charities, especially in their respective local areas.
Yes, there are clubs in Nevada — both officially- and not-officially recognized by the Raiders. The Raiders don’t pick the local clubs’ officers…they are voted-in by their own members.
Membership dues in these clubs aren’t usually higher than $30-$35 or so, and they usually include the clubs’ unique Raiders shirts (most are one-off, never-to-be-repeated designs).
After meeting stringent requirements, for a club to be officially recognized by the Raiders’ Steering Committee that monitors such things, it does cost each CLUB (not each member) $100+ per year…but that number gives the member clubs unique opportunities that aren’t offered to the non-official clubs.
One of the most popular member clubs’ events every year is the designated “Away Game” — where the clubs vote on which game to attend…and then hotel rooms are blocked in quantity, restaurants and bars are flooded by visiting Raiders fans, and the souvenir raffles and comraderie make the trip worth it even before the game’s played.
Find out what your membership $$ buys you — for $100, it should buy you an awful lot of satisfaction in your club. Find out where they meet, and wander in sometime when they’re there — see if you like the people.
Want a good Bay Area club to hook up with when coming to Oakland? Try the Vaca-Valley Raiders Booster Club — they welcome tail-gating visitors all the time (and have a great new T-shirt for members every year, too).
Hope that helps!
July 17th, 2009 at 3:00 pm
Look at Russell’s first year. The Raiders would have been better off playing Andrew Walter that entire year in 2007.
Instead the Raiders go 4-12 with McCown and Culpepper. What was the value in that?
July 17th, 2009 at 3:03 pm
OAK,
I’m suppose to pray 5 times a day, but let’s not go there.
I just started praying at the mosque, today was my 2nd time. I love it!
July 17th, 2009 at 3:10 pm
I’m relaxing at home now, my daughter is sleeping, and I’m hitting the bong like Iron Mike in his prime. lol
All I’m missing is a pool!!
July 17th, 2009 at 3:17 pm
Roll out to AZ O! Got the pool and a bl*nt waitin for any Raider FAN out there baby!
July 17th, 2009 at 3:22 pm
AZ,
Trust me my friend, my next trip to AZ I will contact. I’ll bring you a nice Cali gift!!!
July 17th, 2009 at 3:25 pm
Dude/troll’s remarks about Matt Leinart were hilarious!
Because he watched EVERY game of Matt’s college career, he knows he’ll be a GOOD NFL QB…
Matt can’t get the ball more than 20-yards downfield, and in-front of his receivers. He ducks from pressure too soon. He doesn’t progress through reads well. He doesn’t audible out of bad matchups at the line of scrimmage…and more and more…
…and all with the best WR duo in football.
Meanwhile, in an admittedly crazy environment around Raiders camp the past few years:
JaMarcus Russell continues to improve on all those things mentioned above, and on many others not mentioned. Leinart’s growth was substantially stunted when he was benched after failing miserably as a starter. Coming out of camp, even though he didn’t win the job…Leinart was just handed the job over Warner, and it cost the Cards dearly.
The best thing to happen to the Cardinals future at QB was when Matt Leinart was benched. If Warner stays healthy this year, Leinart’s competition as the Cards’ future QB will be drafted in the first 3-rounds next year.
Time’s running out on Leinart in AZ…and even if he does start next year, his receiver corps is likely to be much different than it is this year. Anyone who thinks Boldin will be there next year if they don’t re-new his deal, is short-sighted at best.
Dude…troll — You are a glutton for punishment…it’s simply amazing how many times you let yourself get smacked around (with just this one alias!).
July 17th, 2009 at 3:26 pm
Watch out O. It aint like Cali out here. They lock you up for anything over a G.
July 17th, 2009 at 3:26 pm
*Contact you…
If I can, I would like to meet most of you here.
Nothing better than to travel, and have friends where you going.
July 17th, 2009 at 3:28 pm
How many of you think our RB’s will play a huge part in our receiveing corps?
http://www.raidernationstation.com/2009_pre_season
Bush and DMC can catch, no doubt, but I’m not sure Bush can run the routes as well as DMC.
Mcfad looked really good making tough grabs in traffic toward the end of the year.
July 17th, 2009 at 3:31 pm
AZ,
I don’t travel with greens, I’m Arab bro. I get stopped at every check point!! lol
Like I said, I will bring you a Cali gift. You will like it!
July 17th, 2009 at 3:31 pm
69. No doubt!!!
All these haters who bashed on Davis for “passing” on Lienart and V. Young.
Look at them now!
Leinart’s a pine rider who’s only press is him trying to hump teeny boppers and Young’s press is about him flipping out and bawling like a baby.
I hope Russell manages games well and helps us back to respectability.
Keep workin’ hard J Marc!!!
We Love it!
July 17th, 2009 at 3:32 pm
21,
Actually, Bush is supposed to be the more skilled reciever of the 2 in the eyes of our beloved media. Jerry said in an earlier Blog that same thing.
But in answer to your question, h*ll ya they will. Dmac will line up even more this year than he did last year as a WO. though bush might have better reciver skills, you can’t ask him to out-speed a CB, which DMAC can do.
July 17th, 2009 at 3:32 pm
73. Peace my freind. I hope you don’t run into too many narrow people who harrass you out of their irrational fear and bias.
GO RAIDERS!
July 17th, 2009 at 3:32 pm
I shouldn’t say more skilled reciever, I should say better at catching the ball out of the backfield. I bit different I suppose.
July 17th, 2009 at 3:35 pm
Nnamdi,
DMC is better at catching, and making big plays.
Bush can run, catch, and pound the defense. Also, he has speed for a big man. Reminds me of a young J Lewis. 6′1/6′2 and 245 pounds, and his speed make him a great weapon.
July 17th, 2009 at 3:40 pm
Nnamdi,
Thank you, and so far I had no problems.
Most people will Treat you with respect, if you show compassion, understanding, and respect.
July 17th, 2009 at 3:43 pm
I want to see a little more wildcat from DMAC and Bush this year. I know, I know, everyone is on that trip right now, but I liked Cables aggresive play calling twards the end there, minus the fake field goal, yikes (No Dude, that’s not as bad as actually attempting a 75 yarder).
The 60+ yard pass interference call in the TB game? Priceless and soooo close to working. i like where his (Cables) head’s at!
July 17th, 2009 at 3:44 pm
I’m the lizard king, I can do anything!!
July 17th, 2009 at 3:45 pm
I’m the walruss but I’m also completely useless…
July 17th, 2009 at 3:46 pm
I don’t know AZ …
I think I want to see JRuss under center for all the snaps. We shouldn’t have to gimmick anything.
July 17th, 2009 at 3:46 pm
Nnamdi –
Assuming they’re both healthy for the majority of the year, I’m going to guess these numbers for Bush and DMC:
DMac averages 2.5 catches per game = 40 Total
Bush avgs 2 catches per = 32 Total
Fargas? I’ll take a shot, and say he gets 1.25 catches per = 20 Total
So…with just those three guys, I estimate around 92 receptions. Haven’t even mentioned FB’s, who I think will end up with maybe 1.5 catches per game = 24.
So, my guess is…
40 + 32 + 20 + 24 =
116 receptions from DMC/Bush/Fargas and Fullbacks in 09
July 17th, 2009 at 3:46 pm
# SnB Defense Says:
July 17th, 2009 at 3:00 pm
Look at Russell’s first year. The Raiders would have been better off playing Andrew Walter that entire year in 2007.
Instead the Raiders go 4-12 with McCown and Culpepper. What was the value in that?
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See post #16
July 17th, 2009 at 3:48 pm
I’ll take JRuss in the shotgun, with DMac in the backfield. Chaz, Murphy, and DHB at WR, with Miller at TE.
Someone is going to be open!
July 17th, 2009 at 3:48 pm
Jhill,
It’s fun to watch though, especially if it works… Like the onside kick with the lead agaist Texas? Right on Cable, that was cool.
just saying to throw in a few tricks here and there with a young team like we have doesnt hurt and makes it exciting to watch.
July 17th, 2009 at 3:49 pm
AZ,
I’m smoking, so what’s your excuse? lol
July 17th, 2009 at 3:49 pm
Oakglenn Says:
July 17th, 2009 at 1:54 pm
The issue with Russell was Kiffin did not believe in him, and Kiffin did everything to insure that Kiffin was right and everyone else in the universe was wrong. Kiffin would not let him audible, Kiffin would not put the ball in his hands to win games, even after Russell was playing fairly well. Contrast that to a Matt Ryan, or Joe Flacco, where the coaches publicly came out and supported, let them call their own plays, and believed in them. They flourished. Again, do you think it makes a difference??
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Was up Oakglenn? Long time no read… It’s good to have you back…Not the same with out ya.
July 17th, 2009 at 3:50 pm
Oakglenn,
Yeah, good post at #16
July 17th, 2009 at 3:50 pm
Bush should not have 2 balls thrown his way per game. He should not be the 3rd down back, and I don’t want to see more than 1 screen thrown his way.
Unless of course that screen goes for 30 plus!
July 17th, 2009 at 3:50 pm
Jhill,
What about JLH?!
July 17th, 2009 at 3:51 pm
Raider O Says:
July 17th, 2009 at 3:49 pm
AZ,
I’m smoking, so what’s your excuse? lol
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Damn bro, I can’t believe you just did that to me
1hr & 15min, and I’m outta here.
July 17th, 2009 at 3:52 pm
I don’t know why some of you are expecting our TEs and RBs to lead the team in receptions. That would be very disappoiting to me as our WRs should be the primary targets on pass plays. If Miller and McFadden end up leading the team in receptions then either our WRs are still not getting open, or JRuss has not progressed.
July 17th, 2009 at 3:53 pm
M Bysh played QB at HS, and DMC played in the wildcat a Ark. He was the best at it in college.
I would like to see the wildcat from the Raiders, but no more than twice a game.
July 17th, 2009 at 3:55 pm
Jhill,
Bush can do it all baby, just like DMAC but different. Bush is a 1st round talent and could start for any team in the NFL right now. It’s about time we got a REAL 1-2 punch though. He can run the screen for TD’s too, just wait and see. Don’t get me wrong, if I’m calling a screen I’m putting in #20, but if need be I can run the same plays with Bush but it will be a broken tackle that springs him for the TD not pure speed and agility.
July 17th, 2009 at 3:56 pm
HayesDaze37 Says:
July 17th, 2009 at 3:25 pm
Dude/troll’s remarks about Matt Leinart were hilarious!
Because he watched EVERY game of Matt’s college career, he knows he’ll be a GOOD NFL QB…
Matt can’t get the ball more than 20-yards downfield, and in-front of his receivers. He ducks from pressure too soon. He doesn’t progress through reads well. He doesn’t audible out of bad matchups at the line of scrimmage…and more and more…
…and all with the best WR duo in football.
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The issue with Leinart is he does NOT have a strong arm by any stretch of the imagination. NFL people knew this, and he was going to plummet in the draft, so Leinart went back to school, took Ballroom Dancing, and went to work more on his game. In college he could get away with not having a very strong arm. That does not work in the NFL. When you watch him live, it looks like he is tossing balloons out there. I probably have as strong an arm as Leinart. And the big problem is, you can’t just pump some iron, and come out with a cannon. Either you have one or you don’t. If Josh McCown could go into some program and come out with Brett Farves right arm, he would have done it. To Leinerts credit he has been working with UFC trainers to strengthen himself, and toughen himself up both physically and mentally. Something that his Ballroom Dancing classes obviously did not help him with.
July 17th, 2009 at 3:57 pm
O,
JLH was in on 2nd down, and ran the wrong pattern.
July 17th, 2009 at 3:58 pm
jhill Says:
July 17th, 2009 at 3:52 pm
I don’t know why some of you are expecting our TEs and RBs to lead the team in receptions. That would be very disappoiting to me as our WRs should be the primary targets on pass plays. If Miller and McFadden end up leading the team in receptions then either our WRs are still not getting open, or JRuss has not progressed.
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Get ready for disappointment my friend, Miller will lead the team in rec yards again this year, but it wont be for the reasons you stated. DHB’s gonna take a saftey with him every time after Cromarti gets burned deep on Monday night footbal, which leaves a LB to cover Miller…. Sorry, If I have a LB on Miller, I’m throwing it to him.
July 17th, 2009 at 3:58 pm
* Bush.
AZ,
Don’t be sad bro, just remember. The Jar is Full!!
And you have a pool. It can only get better for you!!
July 17th, 2009 at 4:00 pm
I understand what Bush can do, but I’m just saying that the RBs and TEs should not be the primary read, right? Just saying that if they end up leading the team in recpetions, then our WRs must not have been doing a good job of getting open.
And that would be a bummer.
July 17th, 2009 at 4:01 pm
AZ,
I agree with your last few posts about our offense.
Free Miller, and be will make the PB!!!
July 17th, 2009 at 4:01 pm
# DirtyRaccoon Says:
July 17th, 2009 at 3:49 pm
Oakglenn Says:
July 17th, 2009 at 1:54 pm
The issue with Russell was Kiffin did not believe in him, and Kiffin did everything to insure that Kiffin was right and everyone else in the universe was wrong. Kiffin would not let him audible, Kiffin would not put the ball in his hands to win games, even after Russell was playing fairly well. Contrast that to a Matt Ryan, or Joe Flacco, where the coaches publicly came out and supported, let them call their own plays, and believed in them. They flourished. Again, do you think it makes a difference??
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Was up Oakglenn? Long time no read… It’s good to have you back…Not the same with out ya.
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Thanks DR. It’s just the same old ignorant stupid sh** here that I had to get away from. I kinda get tired of reading the same dumb stuff from the same dumb idiots at times. Thought I would check in here tho say hi to all of you all!!
July 17th, 2009 at 4:01 pm
Your tellin me! its 113 right now and the A/C in my office sounds like it’s gotta take a sh*t! i gotta get outta here and start my weekend!
July 17th, 2009 at 4:03 pm
Jhill,
Gates did it for years in SD… Nothing wrong with it. If someone is getting open and breaking the 1000 yard mark, we’re doing something right.
July 17th, 2009 at 4:03 pm
He will make the PB!
Free 408’s IP.
July 17th, 2009 at 4:03 pm
jhill Says:
I don’t know why some of you are expecting our TEs and RBs to lead the team in receptions. That would be very disappoiting to me as our WRs should be the primary targets on pass plays. If Miller and McFadden end up leading the team in receptions then either our WRs are still not getting open, or JRuss has not progressed.
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Actually, I’m hoping the TE leads in receptions, or that Miller’s a close second to a surprise WR with 75+.
Zach’s Pro Bowl material, and he’ll be open a lot this year.
See: Todd Christensen
July 17th, 2009 at 4:04 pm
if it’s 3rd down, my first read is Miller every time…
July 17th, 2009 at 4:06 pm
I don’t think he likes you too much!
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He knows & I don’t care too much for him. And he knows that too of course.
Damn O, now I know why you pray so much, you’re bonging so hard anyone could see God!!!?!?!?
I think you & I are from the same rel!g!on ….
The North American Rastrafar!an!!!
July 17th, 2009 at 4:07 pm
DC still gets a lot of catches in the Colts offense, and he played with R Wayne and Marvin H.
July 17th, 2009 at 4:09 pm
Was up TW!
July 17th, 2009 at 4:10 pm
AZ, how hot is it there?
July 17th, 2009 at 4:10 pm
113
July 17th, 2009 at 4:11 pm
How hot on a parking lot?
July 17th, 2009 at 4:12 pm
Wow, surprised to see the Lady Raccoon showing her face in here! After pretending to want to meet face to face, she flaked out for the 2nd time in a row yesterday.
I guess all of her tough talk about being this sassy female gang member – like Rizzo from the Pink Ladies – really was just dreams and fantasy.
And where is Krappy today? Usually that old goat has cut and pasted at least 3 worthless articles by now. It’s only a guess, but I’ll say – passed out in bathtub with crap filled diapers?
July 17th, 2009 at 4:13 pm
They haven’t had any WRs in SD or KC in years, so Gates and Gonzales should have been the top recs on the team.
I’m just suggesting that I would like to see the distribution go a little differently.
Chaz – 5-6 balls per game
#2 WR – 4-5 balls per game
Miller – 3-4 balls per game
#3/4 WR – 2-3 balls per game each
RB/FB – 4-5 balls per game
That’s 17-23 completions a game for JRuss, leaving plenty of carries for the McFadden and Bush show.
July 17th, 2009 at 4:13 pm
It’s a dry heat so it’s really not that bad except when the monsoons come through, then it gets humid and sticky…. That sucks
July and August are the monsoon season, so it doesnt last that long.
July 17th, 2009 at 4:14 pm
Sorry AZ, I didn’t read up. 113?? Jebus!!
O the prayer I posted is from a movie called The Meaning of Life by Monty Python. I know you wouldn’t be praying if you didn’t want to know The Meaning of Life so rent it & it REALLY is The Meaning of Life.LOL
July 17th, 2009 at 4:15 pm
HayesDaze37 Says:
July 17th, 2009 at 4:11 pm
How hot on a parking lot?
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130 if you get the right one
July 17th, 2009 at 4:19 pm
I don’t disagree with the Miller to the PB talk. While I think his receptions will go down, I think his TDs will go up big time. That is what will get him into the PB.
July 17th, 2009 at 4:19 pm
Bring out your dead……
DING!
Bring out your dead……
DING!
Bring out your dead……
DING!
July 17th, 2009 at 4:20 pm
Cool write-up of the great Raider Todd Christensen:
Christensen began his NFL career as a second-round draft pick of Dallas in 1978 out of Brigham Young University. While playing fullback, he broke his foot in the final exhibition game that year and was cut. He later signed with the New York Giants and then the Oakland Raiders, who converted him to a tight end.
After three seasons of unspectacular statistics (including the Raiders’ Super Bowl winning campaign in 1980), Christensen broke out in 1982, catching 42 balls for 510 yards and 4 TD’s in the strike-shortened season, helping the Raiders to the best record in the NFL.
The next year, Christensen caught 92 passes for a career high 1,247 yards and 12 touchdowns and earned the first of his five trips to the Pro Bowl for his efforts. His total catches led the NFL, making him the second tight end to ever do this (Kellen Winslow was the other).
Christensen topped 1,000 yards again in 1984, catching 82 passes in the process. He hit 80 receptions again the following year, missing 1,000 yards by just 13 yards.
The 1986 NFL season was Christensen’s last big one statistically. He ended the year with a career-high, league-leading 95 receptions for 1,153 yards and 8 touchdowns. He also became the first tight end in history to catch 90 passes in two seasons.
Christensen’s 1987 campaign was cut short, but in 12 games he still managed to catch 47 balls (a little less than 4 a game). His 663 yards averaged to 14.1 yards per reception, a career high in seasons where he caught at least 40.
In Christensen’s final year, he missed more than half the season with injuries and only managed 15 receptions, with none going for touchdowns.
In his career, Christensen caught 461 passes for 5,872 yards and 41 touchdowns. In eight postseason games, he caught 31 balls for 358 yards and only one touchdown.
He led the league in receptions twice, and his 349 receptions from 1983-86 were an NFL record.
(wikipedia)
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The underrated and under-appreciated Todd Christensen, ladies and gentlemen (and trolls, of course).
5-straight Pro Bowls and 2x Super Bowl Champion.
That would be pretty good for a guy like Zach!
But not enough for me…
July 17th, 2009 at 4:20 pm
Miller will have some 6 catch games, and some 2 catch games. On average, he should get 3-4 balls per game. But he should get at least 8 TDs this year, IMO.
July 17th, 2009 at 4:22 pm
I’m not dead yet!
You will be soon, sh*t up!
But i’m not… (CRACK!!!!)
Bring out your dead…..
DING!
July 17th, 2009 at 4:23 pm
….in the best British accent i could muster… Lol
July 17th, 2009 at 4:24 pm
Hayes,
Your post on Matt Leinart was one of the funnier things I have read in a while. Seriously, thanks for the laugh and thanks for proving without a shadow of a doubt that you in fact havn’t a clue. LOL!!
July 17th, 2009 at 4:25 pm
Who will Miller bump out of the PB? Gates or D Clark?
July 17th, 2009 at 4:25 pm
If Miller could get those numbers and they lead to double digit TDs, then hey go for it!
Anything close to that would be amazing.
Hoepfully, that would be a result of the offense opening up at scoring 3TDs per game, b/c I would just wonder what Chaz and DHB would be doing?
July 17th, 2009 at 4:26 pm
TW,
I was playing, God loves us all!!
I don’t see God, but I see what he does, did, and I believe. It wasn’t always like this.
As for the meaning of life, my friend life is very simple:
-Treat others as you like to be treated.
-educate yourself as much as you can, and travel as much as you can.
- enjoy life without harming others.
July 17th, 2009 at 4:31 pm
If Miller’s stats aren’t better than those guys, I don’t think he gets in.
But if the Raiders win the division, with Miller being one of the top players, I say he gets in over Clark, you know, since Clark didn’t make it last year.
Or maybe they go with 3 guys, like they did last year?
July 17th, 2009 at 4:31 pm
Doesn’t all the coaching turnover indicate some sort of departure with reality, insanity, dementia, senility……..? something……
July 17th, 2009 at 4:33 pm
A departure you know all too well, Krappy.
Oh man … you really walked into that one.
July 17th, 2009 at 4:35 pm
Actaully, I forgot Daniels took Gates place last year b/c Gates was hurt. Gates didn’t play.
July 17th, 2009 at 4:35 pm
AZ,
Your a liar on top of being a moron. Your lil scouting report you posted is from a freakn Fantasy Football site but hey, whatever. Any reputable scouting site says the same thing about the kid: Weakness- catching ability. You say “most” reports dont say it, makes you a liar.
July 17th, 2009 at 4:37 pm
Dude,
your stretching bro… you cant debate Raiders with me, give up bro.
July 17th, 2009 at 4:37 pm
Dude,
Do you think the scout fantasy players? Who’s the moron here LOL.
July 17th, 2009 at 4:38 pm
Dude — AZ and O have already planted their boots up your lead a$$ so many times the last 24-hrs, I’m amazed you’ve come back.
Like most other haters (not FANS who have complaints, but just plain miserable haters)…you throw out statements that are continually proved wrong, and then ignore those facts when they’re shown to you. You sure do like to call names, though, Mr. Maturity (ooohhhhhh, scary!).
You have NO credibility — not even among your fellow trolls!
Why can’t you acknowledge the stats that AZ showed you earlier — and the statement about Crabtree’s hands?
Because it hurts every time you’re reminded you have no argument (other than hate).
Man-up, Dude…troll — Or, Woman-up…
…I know plenty of women with more sand (and intellect) than what you regularly exhibit in here. Most women, actually.
July 17th, 2009 at 4:38 pm
Monty python for the meaning of life!!!
LMAO
You are bonging too, aren’t you?! lol
July 17th, 2009 at 4:39 pm
Besides, it took you like 4 hours to come up with that… You have nothing on me and you have nothing that resembles knowlege of Raider football. Give up, your weak and so are you arguments…
July 17th, 2009 at 4:41 pm
jhill Says:
July 17th, 2009 at 4:13 pm
They haven’t had any WRs in SD or KC in years, so Gates and Gonzales should have been the top recs on the team.
I’m just suggesting that I would like to see the distribution go a little differently.
Chaz – 5-6 balls per game
#2 WR – 4-5 balls per game
Miller – 3-4 balls per game
#3/4 WR – 2-3 balls per game each
RB/FB – 4-5 balls per game
That’s 17-23 completions a game for JRuss, leaving plenty of carries for the McFadden and Bush show.
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I would swap Miller with the #2 WR (JLH). Miller got open the last 2 yrs with no wide receiving threat. Now defenses have to pay attention to the outside and give care for DMAC/Bush at all times. Should make Miller’s job easier and he already has a chemistry with Russell
July 17th, 2009 at 4:42 pm
Some of us have lives so we cant sit on the computet all day. You dont know sheet, all you do is sit here and say how great every Raider player is, how great a team they are, how you just happened to have DHB ranked number 1 and you have a “buddy” who says his hands are “great”. You dont kno your ass from a hole in the wall and it shows. What were Walkers numbers gonna be again?? Lookn for a laugh…..
July 17th, 2009 at 4:43 pm
Darrius Heyward-Bey, WR, Maryland
Height: 6-1 WR Rank: 4
Weight: 210 Overall Rank: NA
Year: Jr 40 Time: 4.30
Top 4 teams likely targeting Darrius Heyward-Bey.
Team # Drafts %
Minnesota Vikings, Pick 22 39 19.7
Baltimore Ravens, Pick 26 38 19.2
New York Jets, Pick 17 31 15.7
Miami Dolphins, Pick 25 13 6.6
Pick Chart Ranking Charts
Darrius Heyward-Bey Scouting Report by James Zamora
Pros: elite speed, hands, size
Cons: route running, mentality,consistency
Overall: His 40 time alone will get him drafted!!
July 17th, 2009 at 4:44 pm
Never said that Dude…. I’m telling you, you’d better leave before I really make you look bad.
July 17th, 2009 at 4:44 pm
You couldnt find a real scouting report to post, so you went with a stupid fantasy football site that DID NOT list strenghts and weakness’es only strengths. Good job.
July 17th, 2009 at 4:47 pm
The EASIEST evaluation of ANY rookie WR coming into the NFL out of college is to say the kid’s got “inconsistent” hands.
Dude…troll — I know you THINK you know more than you do…but, did you realize the major magazine publishers for FFL pay the SAME scouting/ratings services, and attend the same workouts the NFL teams themselves pay for?
They’re all in on the same numbers, figures, stats, etc., as the next guy.
As a scout, or as a writer…I could never go wrong by saying a guy has “inconsistent” or “suspect” hands.
July 17th, 2009 at 4:47 pm
JLH will not be #2. Slot guy and PR, with the occasional reverse.
Like I said, if we end up with Miller putting up Todd Christiansen type numbers, I won’t be mad at that.
But I stick by throwing it to an open WR before looking at the TE.
I’ll split the difference with you and just ask Cable to add 5 more pass attempts to the offense. Those can go to Miller. But our WRs need to have 15 catches or so combined per game.
July 17th, 2009 at 4:47 pm
Thats a freakn Fan site. The dude that wrote that could have been you. That site is exactly like Bleacher Report. Again, well done.
July 17th, 2009 at 4:48 pm
I’m having computer problems….you…right …it’s GGG…..OOO..OOooo..DDD…(sorry but I was/is/ma..yb..ee..)
July 17th, 2009 at 4:49 pm
Dude,
The report is a real scouting report. Does it matter what site i went to to get the info. Do you think fantasy football sites post bogus scouting reports? Are you OK bro? Damn, I knew your football IQ was low but this is just bottom-feeding stuff. LOL, do you understand what fantasy football is? I scouting report will help a fantasy player help choose a rookie to put on his fantacy team LOL… Damn dude, I told you I would do it, and just proved to you I would. Why don’t you go ahead and muster up a “real” scouting report.
July 17th, 2009 at 4:53 pm
That scouting report was written by a fan. How many more times do I have to say it? Guess you didnt notice the part where you could click and submit your own. It is righ along the lines of Bleacher Report and the like.
July 17th, 2009 at 4:54 pm
Simply astounding, KK!
Except for Dude/troll flinging his dung, this has been a pretty good afternoon of Raiders football talk.
Then…to prove you have nothing else in mind, but to stir the pot with negativity:
KoolKell Says:
Doesn’t all the coaching turnover indicate some sort of departure with reality, insanity, dementia, senility……..? something……
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Oh, yeah…nothing like a good attitude! Go Raiders!!
July 17th, 2009 at 4:54 pm
Again I ask…What were Walkers numbers gonna be again?
Hayes,
Glad your back, your a fun guy. LOL! Pray tell, when did I get “owned”?
July 17th, 2009 at 4:55 pm
Been meaning to ask…Dude/Troll?????
July 17th, 2009 at 4:56 pm
Did you submit your own Dude…. Do you know how to navigate a web site? Yes, you can post your own write under the real one you goon. Just like this blog, Jerry writes and so can we…. Damn bro, your doing it to yourself. Go get a “real” scouting” report and I’ll consider listening to more of your posts…
July 17th, 2009 at 4:58 pm
JHill,
Don’t count out JLH. 3rd year…played well down the stretch…he’s going to be in the mix and he has experience over D-HB and Murphy. HE’s a very explosive player. His numbers would have been decent had they played him earlier.
The wide receiver competition is going to be the headline of training camp
July 17th, 2009 at 4:58 pm
TW,
Did God flood your PC?
July 17th, 2009 at 4:59 pm
Do some research and youll find out that the guy who wrote that scouting report is an avg joe fan. Guess his last comment didnt tip you…
His speed alone will get him drafted!!
July 17th, 2009 at 5:00 pm
I agree that he is going to be a big play threat SnB. Should get 3-4 ball thrown his way each game.
July 17th, 2009 at 5:00 pm
Someone else check this report out and tell Dude what he is getting into with me.
https://www.headcross.com/dahr.php?q=aHR0cDovL3d3dy5mZnRvb2xib3guY29tL25mbF9kcmFmdC9wcm9maWxlX2Rpc3BsYXkuY2ZtP3Byb3NwZWN0X2lkPTE2MTU%3D
July 17th, 2009 at 5:02 pm
That one might have been… The first one I posted was as real as it gets buddy… click the ling above and check it out for yourself. Then you can post it and say YOU found it and I’ll tell YOU you did a good job
July 17th, 2009 at 5:04 pm
Dude,
Y O U C A N ‘ T D E B A T E R A I D E R S W I T H M E. . . .
July 17th, 2009 at 5:04 pm
Miller to the PB!!
Nnamdi to the PB!!
Lechler to the PB!!
Gallery to the PB!!
9-7 baby!!
July 17th, 2009 at 5:05 pm
You dont kno your ass from a hole in the wall and it shows.
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That’s..just…like….your opinion…maaannn
July 17th, 2009 at 5:06 pm
That link works well. Good job.
Lets see those Walker numbers again…
July 17th, 2009 at 5:08 pm
Did God flood your PC?
-
Yeah, and me. With Guinness…
July 17th, 2009 at 5:09 pm
TW,
And You know what they say about opinions!! Maaan!
July 17th, 2009 at 5:10 pm
Well guys, I’m outta here so tty on monday. Let me know if Dude ever comes up with something worth my time (yawn)….
July 17th, 2009 at 5:11 pm
Just like the rest…. Run forest, run!!
July 17th, 2009 at 5:12 pm
TW,
Do you have 2 of everything?
2 beers, 2 bl•nts, etc…,
July 17th, 2009 at 5:13 pm
Don’t forget the scouting report Dude! Can’t wait to read it….. (YAWN)
Later “O”, TW, Jhill, Oakglenn, RR, Raider on!
July 17th, 2009 at 5:14 pm
AZ,
Have a great weekend with your girl, pool, and full Jar!! lol
July 17th, 2009 at 5:14 pm
Just like the rest…. Run forest, run!!
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You want a toe? I can get you a toe, believe me. There are ways, Dude. You don’t wanna know about it, believe me.
July 17th, 2009 at 5:14 pm
Raider on! LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
July 17th, 2009 at 5:14 pm
Raaaaaaaiiiider Onnnnnnnn!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
July 17th, 2009 at 5:17 pm
RAIDER ON AZ!!
July 17th, 2009 at 5:19 pm
Raider on 0!
July 17th, 2009 at 5:19 pm
Right on Dude!! That’s what I’m talking about!!
Raider on Bro!!!!
July 17th, 2009 at 5:20 pm
Raider On Dude!!!!
Raider On Nation!!!
July 17th, 2009 at 5:25 pm
Your a different bird there Raider 0. I really wonder what it would be like to be such a homer whereas you 100% believe that they will be good every year and every player they have or draft will be great. I bet it is pretty fun actually.
July 17th, 2009 at 5:26 pm
You say “most” reports dont say it, makes you a liar.
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Three thousand years of beautiful tradition, from Moses to Sandy Koufax…
You’re goddamn right I’m living in the f#ck!ng past!
July 17th, 2009 at 5:28 pm
Dude,
Don’t wonder anymore, just drink the KoolAide!!
It’s Grrreat!
July 17th, 2009 at 5:30 pm
No ratings, just stats…DHB vs Crabtree’s (unbelievable) stats:
(wikipedia)
Maryland Receiving Rushing
Season Games Rec Yds Avg Lg TD Att YdsAvg Lg TD
2006 13 45 694 15.4 96 5 5 14 2.8 9 0
2007 13 51 786 15.4 63 3 5 110 21.4 54 1
2008 12 42 608 14.5 80 5 15 202 13.5 76 1
Total 37 138 2,089 15.1 96 13 25 326 13.0 76 2
MICHAEL CRABTREE STATS Receiving
Statistics No Yds Avg TD
2008 97 1,165 12.0 19
2007 134 1,962 14.6 22
2006 0 0 0.0 0
Career 231 3,127 13.5 41
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Scheme, Offense, coach, QB, opposing Defenses…and so many other things go into what makes a player great at the NFL level.
Crabtree could be the next T.O., or the next Andre Rison — just a flash in the pan who’s career fizzles out. Same thing for DHB or Murphy.
Funny, those stats, though…it’s remarkable how DHB’s average yards-per-catch was higher than Crabtree’s, for each year they played.
Go Louis Murphy…go, all Raiders rooks…but I think the Raiders have a superstar-in-waiting in DHB — whether he makes 25 or 75-receptions this year. If Murph and DHB are BOTH the real deal??
Even with the questions about Walker, Carter and Shields (who all may be gone soon), the WR position is one of the Raiders’ new strengths…if either DHB or Murphy can contribute as rookies. If Walker and/or Carter are around 6-weeks from now, you can bet they’re ready to play.
Finally.
July 17th, 2009 at 5:30 pm
I really wonder what it would be like to be such a homer whereas you 100% believe that they will be good every year and every player they have or draft will be great.
Forget it, Donny, you’re out of your element!
July 17th, 2009 at 5:30 pm
Cant do it buddy. Reality just has too stong a pull on me.
July 17th, 2009 at 5:31 pm
Whos Carter?
July 17th, 2009 at 5:33 pm
Cant do it buddy. Reality just has too stong a pull on me.
What the f#ck are you talking about? The chinaman is not the issue here, Dude. I’m talking about drawing a line in the sand, Dude. Across this line, you DO NOT… Also, Dude, chinaman is not the preferred nomenclature. Asian-American, please.
July 17th, 2009 at 5:34 pm
Whos Carter?
He peed on the Dude’s rug.
July 17th, 2009 at 5:38 pm
TW,
You love movies, don’t you?
July 17th, 2009 at 5:40 pm
Been meaning to ask…Dude/Troll?????
Man, you’re f#cking Polish Catholic…
July 17th, 2009 at 5:41 pm
TW,
LMAO, no more bonging for you!!
July 17th, 2009 at 5:42 pm
TW,
I get Catholic, but why Polish??
LMAO
July 17th, 2009 at 5:44 pm
Hey Hayes thanks for #63.
I checked the Raiders page and that is the one, I met the guy in a sportsbook out here and he sent me an e-mail on the club. Around $100 per couple he said, they gave away coats for kids last year apparently. They meet at a bar on the complete opposite side of town, I would prefer to stay watching the games at the Hilton so don’t know if it is worth the money for me.
July 17th, 2009 at 5:44 pm
You love movies, don’t you?
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I handle trolls my own way,lol.
People are on here for a reason. You me? we love the Raiders & a lot of other things. Ever wonder why people just want to ARGUE & that’s all? Some don’t even like the Raiders, so why are they here????
July 17th, 2009 at 5:48 pm
I know RaiderTW, you should only post if your a Al Davis loving, kool aid drinkn, Raiders are going to the Bowl thinkn homer. Thats the ONLY way to be a fan.
July 17th, 2009 at 5:50 pm
TW,
A lot of diff reasons:
- company
- attention
- argue (some people love to argue, and if they can’t find someone to argue with then they argue with themselves)
- hobby
July 17th, 2009 at 5:56 pm
The term “kool-aid” drinker is a misnomer. Most of the people who lived/died in Guayana were shot in the back running into the forrest. NO one willingly drank Kool-aid. altho several were injected with cyanid3 according to the first Dr. on the scene, he was Guyanan.
Yes, I like movies. Hahahaha
July 17th, 2009 at 6:07 pm
What kind Raider fan doesn’t remember who Drew Carter was? Carter and Russell had some actual chemistry going until he blew is knee in the preseason. That sucked
July 17th, 2009 at 6:09 pm
AZ Raider2!!!!!
LMAO
July 17th, 2009 at 6:14 pm
Actually, TW — 900+ died in Jonestown of cyanide poisoning. Almost all the adults did it to themselves “voluntarily,” and took 250+ kids along with them for their own good.
July 17th, 2009 at 6:15 pm
Yeah my home iPhone has this handle asigned to it.
July 17th, 2009 at 6:19 pm
What the h*ll are you guys talking about!? Lol. People dying and stuff. Where’s the damn scouting report. I really do want to see what a real one looks like. I need to know how to spot these things ya know?
July 17th, 2009 at 6:25 pm
And this is the reason why Rob Ryan pissed me off so much he had his scheme (or Al’s) and players for 5 years and he couldn’t get it done. Head coaches changed but Ryan stayed and the defense sucked every got dam year!
And the Ryan apologist (priest & oaktit) want to blame the offense for the sorry defense!
I think Marshall will make substantial strides with Ryans unit.
July 17th, 2009 at 6:28 pm
Actually, TW — 900+ died in Jonestown of cyanide poisoning. Almost all the adults did it to themselves “voluntarily,” and took 250+ kids along with them for their own good.
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look further, most shot in the back laid in the South American sun for days, bloated FOR DAYS before anyone from the US carried them off.
July 17th, 2009 at 6:29 pm
AZ,
Maybe ESPN and SI scouting reports!!
July 17th, 2009 at 6:34 pm
Many more had needle marks according to the 1st Dr at the scene, but you won’t hear about it because…. look for yourself if you value the truth, otherwise ignore.
July 17th, 2009 at 6:48 pm
TW — Waaay off. There’s audio tape of the mass poisonings, and film of the bodies — the overwhelming majority of which were minus bullet wounds or punctures.
Big differences in what happened at the airfield and at the encampment.
Now…if you’re a conspiracy theorist by nature, I understand where you might be coming from. But to ignore the horrific recordings is choosing to ignore certain facts — kinda what society does with film of other atrocities at times.
There are a number of documentaries about Jonestown…NBC had one called Witness To Jonestown, and it was outstanding…with real-time footage of many of the events (it was an NBC news team that lost their lives at the airport while filming all of it).
So…not arguing your theory…just sayin’
July 17th, 2009 at 6:51 pm
So — how ’bout them Raiders?
July 17th, 2009 at 6:57 pm
Oh, yeah…the documentary also features eyewitness accounts of the happenings from survivors. It’s a great, incredibly chilling news piece, and I highly recommend it (obviously).
July 17th, 2009 at 6:58 pm
# SnB Defense Says:
July 17th, 2009 at 1:47 pm
Russell takes a lot of heat. The bottom line is that the coaches and organization failed him this year more than anything.
How Kwame Harris, Ronald Curry, Ashlie Lelie and an injured Javon Walker ever got as many snaps is beyond me.
Evaluate the QB when he has NFL talent around him
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Great post but you also forgot fargas was getting bulk of carries with bush sitting their. We saw how jruss played with dmac and bush.
GO RAIDERS!!!!!!!!!
July 17th, 2009 at 7:03 pm
What a shame! All what we do due to fear and greed!!
Where is our compassion, respect, love, understanding, and honor?
Where is the KoolAide?
July 17th, 2009 at 7:27 pm
Oh, yeah…the documentary also features eyewitness accounts of the happenings from survivors. It’s a great, incredibly chilling news piece, and I highly recommend it (obviously).
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Sorry, Haze, THE documentary? Look closer, where did Jimmy get his money? Follow the $$. How did hee move to SF? $$4 who was his friends? MOST of all how many of the ” survivors” you speak of “died” soon after & look at the % of the chance of “accidents”!!
July 17th, 2009 at 7:49 pm
TW — You mean the survivor who became Congresswoman?
I told you I’m not arguing your theory, just pointing-out that there are a lot of eyewitness accounts, from people still alive…and more than one documentary to look at. There are also Congressional records and statements.
I never tried to shoot-down your theory about people getting shot and injected involuntarily…in fact, there are records of people not being allowed to leave camp on their own — and even the dozen or so that left with the Congressman’s party wouldn’t have been allowed to leave if it weren’t for his presence.
But, no matter where the money trail leads (like back to S.F. — where JJ himself used to pick up boys?)…the only thing I mentioned to you earlier was that the cyanide poisonings did in fact take place. Your disputing that was the only debate we had, I thought.
Wherever else you wanna go with the conspiracy, go for it…but the facts as we know it (and as told by the witnesses who lived through it) show the Flavor Aid poisonings did take place.
Back to football?
July 17th, 2009 at 9:18 pm
the only thing I mentioned to you earlier was that the cyanide poisonings did in fact take place. Your disputing that was the only debate we had, I thought.
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True, most deaths were not voluntarily “drinking the Kool-Aid” most were shot running thru the jungles. Your right about the original disagreement, my point being almost no one “drank the Kool-Aid” willingly. Injections or shootings. The bodies were left in the sun to rot before the US got to them. The “official story” was mass suicide that’s what I dispute. Many Survivors were killed soon afterwards.
July 17th, 2009 at 9:28 pm
♫ forgive for she knows not what she does…♫
July 17th, 2009 at 9:31 pm
i like Brian Jonestown massacre…
July 17th, 2009 at 9:47 pm
Margaritas and the raider bong.
July 17th, 2009 at 9:53 pm
well….
I better crawl to bed…
night!
July 17th, 2009 at 10:20 pm
RaiderTW Says:
July 17th, 2009 at 9:18 pm
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True, most deaths were not voluntarily “drinking the Kool-Aid” most were shot running thru the jungles. Your right about the original disagreement, my point being almost no one “drank the Kool-Aid” willingly. Injections or shootings. The bodies were left in the sun to rot before the US got to them. The “official story” was mass suicide that’s what I dispute. Many Survivors were killed soon afterwards.
TW — You’re ignoring the fact that almost all of the bodies (and families) were lined up and overlapping, where they huddled at their sorry ends. Who cleaned up all the blood those alleged shootings caused? Their clothing wasn’t even ripped. Hundreds of people shot, and no wounds and no blood. C’mon, you watch more CSI than that.
The fact the encampment called Jonestown was intentionally isolated 250 miles from a major city had a lot to do with why authorities took so long to get there (and ensure their safety, going into a now-known unsafe environment).
I know I’m not going to convince you most people in Jonestown went by way of cyanide…I can’t believe we’re even in this debate, actually. But, I’ll promise to look into your conspiracy theory about the survivors not really surviving, if you promise to check out some of the photos and vids of the event. Let your eyes be the judge.
BTW — I know of reports of 33 survivors…and know of NO reports of survivors being knocked-off, let alone knocked off for being Jonestown survivors after that fateful day. But, I’m open-minded enough to look at whatever story you can point me to, to gain a better education on the sad subject.
If you’ve got nothin’ except your theory, though, then I guess the discussion’s over…because we’re just not going to convince each other. We should’ve never strayed from football.
July 17th, 2009 at 10:37 pm
# Mistabrown Says:
July 17th, 2009 at 6:25 pm
And this is the reason why Rob Ryan pissed me off so much he had his scheme (or Al’s) and players for 5 years and he couldn’t get it done. Head coaches changed but Ryan stayed and the defense sucked every got dam year!
And the Ryan apologist (priest & oaktit) want to blame the offense for the sorry defense!
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This is exactly why I don’t come to this site anymore. This is just a stupid idiotic post on soooo many levels. Spagnuolo runs this same scheme. So does Jim Johnson. Urban Meyer just won a national collegiate championship running a similar scheme. But some moron knows more than all of them. John Fox in Carolina has averaged 10 wins a year running a similar scheme, but some ass wipe who couldn’t find his ass with both hands, a road map and a guide dog somehow knows more than those guys who are the best defensive minds in the league.
July 18th, 2009 at 12:15 am
Mistabrown, still looking for that “MODERN” defense called the cover2?
One of the reasons I see some decent production from DHB is his athleticism his verticleis 40+ inches and his body control. He also seems to play the ball well in flight. Most see him as just a track-star but this is an elite physically tough athlete.
Our defense should be improved if the pressure on the QB is what I think it will be and the safety play is much better.
Things I’m anxious to see are the safety play and the WR play. But what might be the most critical is the pass rush. We must get off the field on 3rd down if the defense is going to improve. The pass rush is the key. Many focus on the run defense I personally feel that a competitive offense will change the way teams attack us defensively. I watched a lot of film from last year and tackling was a real problem as well as discipline.
We will have very young safeties but they are very talented. If Huff can provide some leadership and experience (which I seriously doubt) that could be pivotal in getting them acclimated.
July 18th, 2009 at 12:23 am
As for Russell and garcia, anyone that can’t see that one. Well I think it’s obvious Russell is going to be a good QB and in time maybe a great one. DMC and ZMiller are critical to the season Russell has. The WR’s JLH and Chaz will not allow the triple team on ZM if DHB can bring that fear of the deep ball, it’s OVER.
So we’ll see…
Adios!
July 18th, 2009 at 12:55 am
Noel, San Diego
05:39 PM ET
Who do you think are the teams most likely to make a turnaround this year?
Willie McGinest, Linebacker
Minnesota, if they get Brett, could make a turnaround. The Jets could be very good. Chicago is going to be pretty good. They got a better quarterback. The Patriots are going to be back in contention because Tom is back.
I think the Raiders, BELIEVE IT OR NOT, are going to be a lot better. They have a good RB in place. JaMarcus Russell hopefully is a lot more comfortable.
http://chat.nfl.com/front/archived_chat/352
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the voices of reason are getting louder, and louder as their numbers increase….
July 18th, 2009 at 6:37 am
RIP, Uncle Walter…
July 18th, 2009 at 7:39 am
TW — You’re ignoring the fact that almost all of the bodies (and families) were lined up and overlapping, where they huddled at their sorry ends. Who cleaned up all the blood those alleged shootings caused? Their clothing wasn’t even ripped. Hundreds of people shot, and no wounds and no blood. C’mon, you watch more CSI than that.
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According to the New York Times,[5] the first official doctor on the scene was Guyanese Coroner Dr. Leslie C. Mootoo. Although he made no final determination, and examined only a portion of the bodies (187 out of over 900, about 20%[6]), based upon factors such that many people in Jonestown were children incapable of consent to suicide and that many bodies had injection marks, Mootoo speculated that a majority of those dead in Jonestown may have been murdered. The coroners for the few autopsies of Jonestown victims conducted in Delaware were not informed of Dr. Mootoo’s findings.[7] For a number of reasons, some legal and logistical, the bodies were not flown out of the remote jungle location of Jonestown for up to a week, allowing significant decomposition to occur, before being flown to New Jersey. Relatives and New Jersey officials complained about being kept from the remains, and according to the New York Times[8] Dr. Sturmer, President of the National Association of Medical Examiners, sent an open letter to the U.S. Army, complaining about the handling of remains, and the illegal cremations of most of the Jonestown victims.
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This is football related Haze, I’ sick of hearing “drinking the koolaid” it’s mostly a misinfo by the media. I’ll drop it but one more thing:
They baked in the sun for almost a week before examined by the USA. So much for CSI!!!!
Some cremated before examined.
Now I’m finished, no more Jimmy Jo. But I will still cringe when someone says “drinking the koolaid” because it is simply disinformation injected into our culture without examination. Kids & babies unwillingly drank, MOST were murdered against their will!!!
OK got football news???
hahaha
July 18th, 2009 at 7:44 am
—”ESPN’s Len Pasquarelli warns not to be surprised if Raiders DE Derrick Burgess is traded to New England before training camp. There was some rumblings that the trade talks involving Burgess were dead. But the Pats, who only had 30 sacks last season, appear to still be interested. The Raiders reportedly killed the talks during the draft, so we’ll see if the Patriots have upped their offer.”—
July 18th, 2009 at 7:54 am
So, what’s next Haze?
Bush never looked for binLaden
All live news reported explosions before the towers fell
No one walked on the moon
Oswald didn’t fire a shot that day
Bobby Kenn was shot 2″ from the back of his head
Broncos cheated the salary to win err buy 2 SBs
NE used Tom Brady to steal signals ever since he was a rookie
Bret Farve threw the 2nd SB to Elway
Bret Farve gave a sack to Strahan for the record
Sorry guys, Raider on!!
July 18th, 2009 at 8:10 am
i got home 0630 this morning, man i was wasted… but it was a good night =)
July 18th, 2009 at 8:26 am
RaiderTW, i took my bicycle…
well, some opens at midnight they can have open till noon, so some club-jumping and plan is needed =)
wow, weapons and alcohol is a GREAT mix =)
you might have an american in the yellow in a few minutes =)
July 18th, 2009 at 8:45 am
Have you seen several uncooperative drunks at closing time? With GUNS? I think America has invented it’s own brand of eugenics.
July 18th, 2009 at 9:19 am
ShanaRAT to San Daygo in 2010!!
http://cbs4denver.com/broncos/mike.shananan.2.1090801.html
July 18th, 2009 at 11:46 am
Wow, the Lady Raccoon is still showing up in the blog despite wimping out of meeting your pal Beeecham – TWICE! It takes a lot of guts – even for chick – to talk all tough on a blog and then hide at home with her tail between her legs.
Anyway, I guess the Lady Raccoon has learned a valuable lesson – she’s not really a member of the Pink Ladies and never talk tough if you’re wasted on watermelon wine coolers. What a tramp!
I’ve got a great feeling Charged Down is going to show up today to discuss that awesome Philip Rivers video! Let’s wait and see!
July 18th, 2009 at 12:00 pm
TW — Citing other conspiracy theories won’t change the facts that I see. And, I never said the children did themselves in…and I never said everybody went along truly voluntarily. Official findings were that the vast majority of deaths were caused by cyanide poisoning — and gunshot wounds were not found on the majority of bodies. I won’t, and can’t with any confidence, state that things you mention didn’t happen — some of that is well-documented. But what you mention doesn’t show up as the main cause of death for the majority of people there — and catastrophic wounds don’t just disappear over a few days. As I told you I would, I looked, but I still can’t find your claim of survivors being suspiciously knocked-off after the event.
So, instead of chasing the tail around again… how ’bout we just call it a truce? I know you’re right in a way, and even though I make valid points*, you won’t consider more than your own already set viewpoint. Sounds like the groundworks of a truce to me!
(*And, no, I sure don’t believe the gov’t reports are as accurate as they’d like us to believe they are…about anything, actually. I just try to look at all options for what/why it happened.)
If you really want to correct the Kool-Aid record… maybe you should let everybody know that the actual drink of that horrible day was Flavor Aid.
Next subject!
It’s a great day to be a Raiders fan. Isn’t it?
July 18th, 2009 at 12:26 pm
So — Here’s an interesting question. DHB’s stats are remarkably similar to Louis Murphy’s stats (even though DHB was not on a team known for its Offensive prowess). How is it that some people think DHB will be a bust before they’ve ever seen him as a pro…but the same people think Murph will be a star?
These kids need to show us something — ANYTHIMG — before any of us can make a claim to their sure-fire success or failure.
If they both catch somewhere around 30-catches this year, it means they’re both ready-for-primetime earlier than 95% of their peers. It also would mean somebody made some great picks from the front office (as much as it pains some to admit it)!
Heyward-Bey stats:
Season Games Rec Yds Avg Lg TD Att YdsAvg Lg TD
2006 13 45 694 15.4 96 5 5 14 2.8 9 0
2007 13 51 786 15.4 63 3 5 110 21.4 54 1
2008 12 42 608 14.5 80 5 15 202 13.5 76 1
Louis Murphy stats:
Receiving Rushing Fumbles
YEAR REC YDS AVG LNG TD ATT YDS AVG LNG TD FUM LST
2005 0 0 0.0 0 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 0 0
2006 2 42 21.0 35 1 0 0 0.0 0 0 0 0
2007 37 548 14.8 66 5 1 12 12.0 12 0 0 0
2008 38 655 17.2 48 7 2 7 3.5 4 0 0 0
July 18th, 2009 at 12:33 pm
In each of his 3-years, DHB had a play go longer than Murph had during his entire 4-year career.
If Schilens and JLH really are “all that,” the Raiders receiver corps could be VERY special. Especially if JaMarcus is ready!
July 18th, 2009 at 12:37 pm
Yet somehow ONLY Raider fan claims either will be a good pro. Weird!
July 18th, 2009 at 12:37 pm
Truth is…if even ONE of the rookie WR’s plays a lot this year, it will be a major success (unless it’s due to injuries!).
July 18th, 2009 at 12:49 pm
Garcia probably got cut loose for being a running the mouth cancer that he’s starting to look like.
JM will motivate and learn to do things his own way.
He’s better off.
When it starts to click he be a bad xxxxx.
I hate talkers.
People who talk their way into a job or promotion, and ultimately fail because they didn’t deserve to be there in the first place.
As I said before, Garcia’s merely adequate.
They ended the season strong and the coaching stability will push them over the top.
Wait till a defender tries that one hand tackle poop that works on 90% of NFL QB’s.
Or when he rolls right and throws far left.
and it’s going to be sweet when he lowers his head and punishes defenders because he’s big enough to do it and he will.
He’s gonna throw so hard it’ll be challenging for receivers to catch it and defenders won’t have time to get to it.
Receivers will have to get used to him.
And if he doesn’t make mistakes, he’s not taking risks.
If he really hits the books he could be like a taller Elway/Bradshaw hybrid thing that terrorizes defenses.
Oh yeah, we got a running game too.
And maybe a DC who won’t have the defense lay down in the 4th.
July 18th, 2009 at 12:50 pm
So, instead of chasing the tail around again… how ’bout we just call it a truce? I know you’re right in a way, and even though I make valid points*, you won’t consider more than your own already set viewpoint. Sounds like the groundworks of a truce to me!
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Just sayin’ the first Dr there reported murder from the 100 or so bodies. They sat in the sun for a week which CSI: Guayana wouldn’t find needle marks.
Fair enough, truce, actually no arguement just talking nonRaiders stuff.Hahaha
You’re also right about the Flavor Aid, cheap bast@rd, can’t even spring for the real stuff. Hey, would have made a difference in taste!!!lol
July 18th, 2009 at 10:41 pm
8-8 baby