Camp analysis: Running backs
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Tuesday, July 21st, 2009 at 10:28 am in Oakland Raiders.
Second in a series of posts analyzing Raiders position groups with players scheduled to report to Napa in seven days:
Projected starters: HB Darren McFadden, FB Lorenzo Neal. Backups: RB Justin Fargas, RB Michael Bush, RB-FB Gary Russell, RB Louis Rankin, FB Luke Lawton, FB Oren O’Neal, FB Marcel Reece.
More often than not, it was McFadden taking snaps with the first team during the offseason, although both Fargas and Bush got considerable work as well. Apparently healed after having his season derailed by turf toe, McFadden is Oakland’s most explosive offensive player as a runner/receiver, and his paycheck befits a lead runner. Neal has been a body guard for the likes of LaDainian Tomlinson, Eddie George and Corey Dillon during their biggest seasons and coach Tom Cable says he moves well enough in space to be a zone blocker.
As much as the coaching staff likes Rankin, making the 53-man roster will be tough with three running backs accounted for as well as the arrival of running back/fullback Russell, who got a lot of work upon arrival this offseason.
Lawton could be the odd man out assuming Neal holds up and O’Neal is healthy. We’ll find out in a week if O’Neal can indeed join the contact fray or if he is still rehabbing a severe knee injury.
The key battle: Fargas vs. Bush. Fargas is a favorite of the coaching staff because he runs without fear and no regard for his personal safety. The feeling is it gives the offense a sense of toughness. But he’s largely a between-the-20s player because of limited receiving skills with just six rushing touchdowns and on 618 carries over the past three seasons (he has now receiving touchdowns during that span).
Bush compiled most of his 2009 stats on the strength of games in Week 2 against Kansas City and Week 17 against Tampa Bay, but he is such a force when on a roll it will be hard to justify not significantly increasing his workload.
What I think: Considering the attrition rate at the position, injuries will help determine the rotation. If McFadden, Bush and Fargas are all healthy, attempting to split the load three ways could prevent any of them from getting in a good rhythm.
Ideally, McFadden should get at least 225 carries and 50-plus receptions. Fargas will at some point be de-emphasized in favor of Bush. It’s just a matter of when.
Keep what the Raiders did with Greg Biekert in the back of your mind with regard to Fargas. Biekert was a starter, every bit as respected as Fargas. When it was determined Napoleon Harris would become the starting middle linebacker, Biekert was told he could take a paycut befitting his new role or be released and attempt to be a starter somewhere else. He chose the latter.
If Bush comes up huge in Napa . . .
What could go wrong: McFadden gets hurt again, suddenly making durability an issue after being an extremely durable back in the SEC. Bush isn’t quite the operator on a week-to-week basis that he was in two games last year, meaning the leading rusher is once again Fargas. Not bad, but not what the Raiders have in mind, either.
Rod Woodson’s legacy
Here are links to a story by beat writer Steve Corkran on Canton-bound Rod Woodson and a column by yours truly on the season-changing 98-yard interception return against the Denver Broncos.
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July 21st, 2009 at 10:33 am
In regards to the Asomugha vs. Woodson debate yesterday…
Woodson was my ultimate favorite and he was great but he didn’t focus. Too often, nobody would throw his way and then suddenly, a big play would be made on him because he just wasn’t into the game. He wanted to be involved. He probably would have made a better safety because he loved to take chances and that would have kept him in the game more. Also…as good as he was, I never felt like he could seriously lock down the best receivers. I know its tough but he couldn’t handle Moss. Moss slapped him around like a little girl and it was frustrating.
Asomugha is more complete than Woodson. Hes always focused, more determined and more intelligent. He can shut down his side of the field and pick the ball off when he finally gets tested. He rarely if ever gets beat deep the way Woodson would when he would bite on a pump fake. I don’t know if Aso is as good of a tackler but hes not far behind and he always gets his nose around the ball. I think Woodson was a better overall athlete but Asomugha is a better overall corner.
July 21st, 2009 at 10:42 am
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The knowck I always heard on Charles Woodson was that he never studied game film. He chose to rely on his natural talent and abilities. I don’t know if that is actually true or not, I just remember that was the main knock on him.
I always thought that, as Woodson got older, that he would be a great candidate to transition to the safety position, similar to Rod Woodson and Ronnie Lott. Hasn’t happened yet and it may never happen.
Woodson is still one of my favorite players, probably because I had the chance to meet him and he was a good guy.
July 21st, 2009 at 10:45 am
The Ravens are bringing in four wide receivers for the tryout, including Drew Bennett and D.J. Hackett.
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who are the other two? Matt Jones & Marvin Harrison?
I’m guessing Ashley Lelie, Drew Carter & Jerry Porter are still at home waiting by the phone …
July 21st, 2009 at 10:45 am
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Woodson was my ultimate favorite and he was great but he didn’t focus.
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the memory that sticks out the most in my mind of C Wood’s time in Oakland was when we played the Bears (2003) and thier QB got flushed out of the pocket. He got to the sideline and instead of ducking out of bounds Kordell Stewart trucked Woodson and kept going. got way past the first down marker…
Stewart was the same height and only 15 lbs heavier than Woody! haha. wasn’t like a FB or TE coming at him or anything
July 21st, 2009 at 10:49 am
Bo said,
Air force? If you are going to sign your ass over to the gov’t, be sure you maximize your investment. USAF may teach you a solid career, but they will not instill the discipline that you would expect from a military commitment. If you are looking to grow into a man, join the USMC (just don’t believe a thing the cs’er recruiter tells you).
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I thought I would jump into this because I joined the Air Force. I served 2 1/2 years in Active Duty and went palace chase into the Air National Guard for 4 years. I got out of the ANG Dec 2007 and was on Inactive Reserve until Jul 2nd 2009. Now I’m really thinking about going back.
I’m laughing at the idea of pissing away a career so one can become a man. I have all the respect in the world for the Marines but if you want to stay alive, enjoy incredible benefits the military has to offer, get an education and actually do something with your life, then the USAF is the way to go. By the way…Doing the smart thing can make you a better man than grabbing a gun and saying you have discipline. Half the guys that are homeless on the street and asking for change are those guys that got nothing in return when they went into the military despite fighting for their country.
A friend of mine was killed in Fallujah and I have another friend in Air Combat Control who has gone to Afghanistan and other areas for special ops missions and has killed many men up to this point. Its not a fun place to be and if thats being a man…I’m sorry to hear that. If you want to “maximize” your investment, the Marines is not the way to do it because you’re just another number or maybe a name on the wall after you’ve been killed trying to fight in someone elses country and not necessarily for your own. Did anybody realize we’re already free? We’re not fighting for our freedom anymore.
In the Air Force, you can live a normal life while also serving your country. When the sh!t hits the fan, you obviously need to be ready like anybody else but I was Project Manager in the Communications Squadron. I worked 7:30am to 4:30pm every day. We ate good food. We got a decent salary, we got paid extra for housing and extra for food. I was able to go to school and work towards my degree because of my G.I. Bill. Yes…I had time to build a career AND go to school for almost nothing and THAT is maximizing your investment, not coming back home traumatized for your efforts with nothing to show for it.
You get 100% medical and dental…you get paid more if you’re married, you get paid more with every child you have. When you have children, the pregnancy is paid for. They put you in a house when you have a family in a military neighborhood on base. You really can’t beat it and I’m kicking myself for ever leaving. Now…outside of the Air Force…the Air National Guard was a joke and a waste of time in comparison when it comes to the states but they do serve alot overseas and thats completely different.
July 21st, 2009 at 10:52 am
You both left it out.
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that article I posted wasn’t from the Obama interview … I already told you I couldn’t find it on-line. MSNBC obviously left it out because it would make Barack look bad. see for yourself. paint the rosy picture. polish the turd
http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/32024198/ns/today-white_house/
July 21st, 2009 at 10:53 am
RaiderDogg – Hes doing things in Green Bay that he didn’t do here. To me…hes a better corner there and maybe thats because hes happier and has a decent corner on the other side of him so he gets tested more or maybe they have a better pass rush but as soon as he got there, he had 8 interceptions. Also…He did go to Michigan in college and Wisconsin is right next to there and its the same type of weather…maybe thats just right for him?
July 21st, 2009 at 10:59 am
WASHINGTON, DC – President Barack Obama is speaking out on the situation surrounding Idaho Pfc. Bowe Bergdahl.
Obama spoke to NBC’s Meredith Viera Monday in a wide-ranging conversation that aired Tuesday morning on Today. One of the first topics of conversation was Bergdahl’s capture.
“We are hopeful that it will have a good ending, and we are doing everything we can,” Obama said. “I can’t talk in detail about (it).
Obama said that he has not made contact with Bergdahl’s Hailey family.
http://www.ktvb.com/news/nearyou/woodriver/ktvbn-jul2109-bergdahl_obama.612c8e29.html
July 21st, 2009 at 11:03 am
What could go wrong: McFadden gets hurt again, suddenly making durability an issue after being an extremely durable back in the SEC. Bush isn’t quite the operator on a week-to-week basis that he was in two games last year, meaning the leading rusher is once again Fargas. Not bad, but not what the Raiders have in mind, either.
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If the O-Line blocks like it did in Week 17 it won’t matter who the starting tailback is…
Top 5 rushing team. Top 25 passing team. bring on the Kool-Aid, boys!
July 21st, 2009 at 11:05 am
Good to see you back on a regular basis, Jerry.
We are pretty loaded at the RB position. If McFadden lives up to his potential, this is the best RB group in the league. It’s a shame we’ll probably have to let Rankin and G. Russell go. I really like both of those guys as 2nd/3rd backs but can’t justify keeping them unless Fargas gets traded. I suppose if they decided to keep 4 RBs and start Oren O’Neal on PUP, they could use Gary Russell as a FB/HB. Lawton was serviceable and Reece is an intriguing athlete. It’ll be interesting to see how the Raiders play this.
July 21st, 2009 at 11:05 am
MCFADDEN TO THE RESCUE!!!!!!
July 21st, 2009 at 11:11 am
Lawton could be the odd man out assuming Neal holds up and O’Neal is healthy. We’ll find out in a week if O’Neal can indeed join the contact fray or if he is still rehabbing a severe knee injury.
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come on Jerry. If Oren isn’t ready for NON-CONTACT OTA’s, he’s obviously not going to be ready to compete for a lead blocking role in a run oriented offense. I’d hate to see one of our LB’s deliver him a setback in his recovery. one Lame Kiffin never thought he’d make! He’ll start on the PUP list
July 21st, 2009 at 11:13 am
http://video.google.com/videosearch?hl=en&q=Bergdahl’s&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wv#
This just shocks me…how much this guy told the interviewer. You shouldn’t say anything. Thats the rule.
July 21st, 2009 at 11:14 am
I guess you’ll have to copy and paste the whole thing.
July 21st, 2009 at 11:30 am
got a meeting. be back later
July 21st, 2009 at 11:44 am
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July 21st, 2009 at 11:46 am
C wood never gave max effort and was always getting smoked like a blunt. Nnamdi is better imo.
July 21st, 2009 at 11:49 am
Oh yeah sup nation? Jerry when ya gonna free my ip.
July 21st, 2009 at 11:50 am
I don’t remember CW being smoked till after his injury.
July 21st, 2009 at 11:52 am
Free 408’s IP.
July 21st, 2009 at 11:53 am
408 – What up dude?
July 21st, 2009 at 11:56 am
Why won’t Obama even call the family? I don’t care what you dems say, he’s a friggin doochbag.
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You forget the fact if YOUR Pres. had tried to catch the weaslebinladen instead of waiting almost 2 months & if he wouldn’t have let him escape T@ro B@ro your brother in law & our troops wouldn’t be there risking their lives.
http://awood.blogspot.com/2005/08/cia-commander-in-tora-bora-admits-us.html
Logical thinking doesn’t run in the Repub & groupie thinking.
July 21st, 2009 at 12:03 pm
If I sent Raider O an email like this:
Osama, I’ll be in San Diego soon & we can talk about the Raiders and their Maverick owner.
before 2007 would the B^sh admin think it was a terr@rist meeting with Palin?
July 21st, 2009 at 12:11 pm
408RAIDER Says:
July 21st, 2009 at 11:46 am
C wood never gave max effort and was always getting smoked like a blunt. Nnamdi is better imo.
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That play on Tom Brady was ALL effort.
July 21st, 2009 at 12:12 pm
They are watching you…..
July 21st, 2009 at 12:12 pm
GWB said “Crusade” so many times, so I thought we were going to Palest!ne!!
July 21st, 2009 at 12:14 pm
I’m the true and only Lizard King! I can do anything!
July 21st, 2009 at 12:16 pm
Jerry Mac…
Saw that Capt. Kirk, was to be on Sirius NFL radio today. Please get us a transcript, thanx. Oh, and Free 408’s ip.
July 21st, 2009 at 12:18 pm
An American soldier captured in southeastern Afghanistan is being held by a notorious militant clan, a senior U.S. military official said.
The Taliban had claimed responsibility for the capture of the four soldiers.
The U.S. soldier visited a military post in the Yousaf Khel district in the Paktika province and got drunk, Taliban commander Mulvi Sangeen said. He was ambushed while returning to his car and was taken to a safe place, Sangeen said.
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@bama sent this soldiers family a case of anibuse, does that make up for it RR?
July 21st, 2009 at 12:20 pm
I hope that kid is not waterboarded to death. I wonder how his family feels about that.
July 21st, 2009 at 12:30 pm
I know its tough but he couldn’t handle Moss. Moss slapped him around like a little girl and it was frustrating.
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In one on one coverage, I can’t remember anyone giving Moss more trouble than Woodson. Moss got his, as he always does when left in single coverage. But Wood kept him largely in check.
July 21st, 2009 at 12:33 pm
Waterboarded to death? I think he would take a little waterboarding over what they will probably do…cut his head off while he is alive and awake KK.
Then if we capture the guys that did it, we will offer them doughnuts and McDonald’s coffee and politely ask them to cooperate, lol.
July 21st, 2009 at 12:37 pm
Waterboarding = Euphemism for Torture.
July 21st, 2009 at 12:39 pm
24 Says:
July 21st, 2009 at 10:49 am
Bo said,
Air force? If you are going to sign your ass over to the gov’t, be sure you maximize your investment. USAF may teach you a solid career, but they will not instill the discipline that you would expect from a military commitment. If you are looking to grow into a man, join the USMC (just don’t believe a thing the cs’er recruiter tells you).
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I thought I would jump into this because I joined the Air Force. I served 2 1/2 years in Active Duty and went palace chase into the Air National Guard for 4 years. I got out of the ANG Dec 2007 and was on Inactive Reserve until Jul 2nd 2009. Now I’m really thinking about going back.
I’m laughing at the idea of pissing away a career so one can become a man. I have all the respect in the world for the Marines but if you want to stay alive, enjoy incredible benefits the military has to offer, get an education and actually do something with your life, then the USAF is the way to go. By the way…Doing the smart thing can make you a better man than grabbing a gun and saying you have discipline. Half the guys that are homeless on the street and asking for change are those guys that got nothing in return when they went into the military despite fighting for their country.
A friend of mine was killed in Fallujah and I have another friend in Air Combat Control who has gone to Afghanistan and other areas for special ops missions and has killed many men up to this point. Its not a fun place to be and if thats being a man…I’m sorry to hear that. If you want to “maximize” your investment, the Marines is not the way to do it because you’re just another number or maybe a name on the wall after you’ve been killed trying to fight in someone elses country and not necessarily for your own. Did anybody realize we’re already free? We’re not fighting for our freedom anymore.
In the Air Force, you can live a normal life while also serving your country. When the sh!t hits the fan, you obviously need to be ready like anybody else but I was Project Manager in the Communications Squadron. I worked 7:30am to 4:30pm every day. We ate good food. We got a decent salary, we got paid extra for housing and extra for food. I was able to go to school and work towards my degree because of my G.I. Bill. Yes…I had time to build a career AND go to school for almost nothing and THAT is maximizing your investment, not coming back home traumatized for your efforts with nothing to show for it.
You get 100% medical and dental…you get paid more if you’re married, you get paid more with every child you have. When you have children, the pregnancy is paid for. They put you in a house when you have a family in a military neighborhood on base. You really can’t beat it and I’m kicking myself for ever leaving. Now…outside of the Air Force…the Air National Guard was a joke and a waste of time in comparison when it comes to the states but they do serve alot overseas and thats completely different.
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I agree completely with you. The Marines is no place to learn a career – I should know, I was in artillery.
However, I have met several ex-USAF who learned good job skills but (admittedly) did not get taught the self-discipline and drive they were expecting (call it what you will, but they thought the treatment was “light”).
It is a hard realization to know that the gov’t can send your ass to face death for some dubious policy goal, but you are not getting the personal development you thought you would as part of the deal.
I also fully agree that the Marines in wartime is no place to be a family man if you plan on doing 20+ years.
I wanted to grow and maximize my potential in a 6-year stint, and then develop a career afterward. I thought I would only be called on to kill for something I would believe in. HA! Youth….
July 21st, 2009 at 12:44 pm
24 im banned. But i can comment from my phone. Kk im just sayin nnamdi is better imo as a leader and teammate’
July 21st, 2009 at 12:45 pm
Join the Navy see the world, sail the 7 seas, and meet more women than any of the other services combined. Later.
July 21st, 2009 at 12:56 pm
Can someone shed some light on this F-22 vs F35 debate going on?
July 21st, 2009 at 1:07 pm
What F22 Vs F35 debate?!!
I love fighters.
The F35 is smaller, and made for ACCs.
The F22 is bigger, bur it can’t be operated froman ACC.
July 21st, 2009 at 1:14 pm
F35 has 1 engine, and the F22 has 2.
The Navy needs to upgrade their FA 18s SHs, and the F35 is their upgrade.
The USAF needs upgrades for the F15s, and the F22 was that upgrade.
We didn’t need to upgrade the F18s SHs and F15s IMHO. They were the upgrades, and they are better than all other fighter/ attackers made else where.
July 21st, 2009 at 1:19 pm
Let’s talk about fighters, forget the Raiders. ( I know what you meant Dakota!!, but this is more fun for me).
July 21st, 2009 at 1:21 pm
I don’t want a piano anymore! I want F22!!
July 21st, 2009 at 1:35 pm
An American soldier captured in southeastern Afghanistan is being held by a notorious militant clan, a senior U.S. military official said.
The Taliban had claimed responsibility for the capture of the four soldiers.
The U.S. soldier visited a military post in the Yousaf Khel district in the Paktika province and got drunk, Taliban commander Mulvi Sangeen said. He was ambushed while returning to his car and was taken to a safe place, Sangeen said.
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@bama sent this soldiers family a case of anibuse, does that make up for it RR?
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post the link please. and a soldier got drunk. big effing deal. if you saw half the cr@p they do, you might drink a little too. thats no reason for Obama to avoid calling the family. and the man was ambushed! even if he wasn’t drunk, he still probably would have been captured … it’s not a laughing matter for anybody who cares about the troops or has friends and family fighting for our freedom
typical democrat dirtbags care more about dogfighting than our soldiers overseas! what gives?
July 21st, 2009 at 1:39 pm
Darren McFadden = F22
Darius Heyward-Bey = F35
Turdell Sands = C17-A
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Now its Raider talk…
July 21st, 2009 at 1:41 pm
Logical thinking doesn’t run in the Repub & groupie thinking.
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all you nutjobs voted for Obama because he promised to pull the troops out of the middle east. NEWSFLASH! it’s not happening. he’d lied. you don’t make surges and invade new territory, bringing in new soldiers and more of them less than 6 months after promising America just the opposite. luckily for him you morons are blind and will still be blaming GWB for everything that happens under the Obama administartion even after Barack is out of office in 3 years. sheep
July 21st, 2009 at 1:43 pm
time to get some work done. bring on the hateful comments. i’m out for now
July 21st, 2009 at 1:48 pm
Turdell= C-5 Galaxy
July 21st, 2009 at 1:57 pm
DHB:F22
DMC:F35
Bush:A17
JR: M1 Abram Tank
I love it!
July 21st, 2009 at 2:01 pm
Fargas sucks, I can’t believe we are even talking about him. Worst starting back in the NFL, period. Can’t catch, can’t score touchdowns, can’t break tackles, can’t pick up the blitz. Rankin should be the third back behind Bush and McFadden. We are still the dumbest team in football.
July 21st, 2009 at 2:02 pm
Raider-o,
Congress just shut down further funding for the F-22 (187 have been built), and part of their reasoning, according to CNN, was that the pentagon intended on building an additional 500 F-35s (total of 2400 F-35s).
From what I read, it sounded like the F-22 was replacing the F-15 as the main air-to-air combat fighter and that the F-35 is replacing the F-18s as main fighter-bomber.
Is that right?
The issues as I understand it, is that the F-35 is going to be sold to other countries, whereas the F-22 was strictly going to be for our use….which would have maintained our air superiority…but now we might be evening the playing field…is that right? Anyone? Anyone?
Go Raiders!
July 21st, 2009 at 2:07 pm
With just over a week to go until the Raiders report to training camp in Napa, Asomugha spoke on a variety of team-related topics, specifically on new defensive coordinator Jim Marshall.
“He’s got a few more coverages than we’ve had in the past, so he might be able to use that,” Asomugha said of Marshall, who has been off limits to the media since replacing Rob Ryan.
“(Marshall is) still a dominant man-to-man guy. He never has been, but coming here he understands that’s the way Mr. Davis likes it. And he sees the talent that we have and the speed so he’s fallen into that. So we’re still going to do man, still going to free up linebackers and other guys like that. But he’s got a lot more blitzing, a lot more coverages, so we should be fine.”
There had been talk that Marshall’s scheme might free up Asomugha to shadow the other teams’ No. 1 receiver.
“It may happen,” he said. “This has never been something that we here have done. We’ve always just kept me where I am (on the field) and then double team whoever’s on the left. I think if it’s someone that’s really dominant then we (move me) but nowadays the No. 2 receiver is almost as good as the No. 1. So you never know who to take.”
-Paul Gutierrez (Sac Bee)
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WOW! Nnamdi is so professional that he can make Rob Ryan look like a clown without even trying to … LOL
Raider Nation: Expect big things from the Marshall Plan!
July 21st, 2009 at 2:08 pm
Crow – Personally…I think you’re out of your mind. Woodson continually got beat by Moss. In fact, Woodson didn’t come close to being one of the people who covered him the best at all. Thats based on memory of course so I will try to back that up.
July 21st, 2009 at 2:14 pm
Dakota,
You are rugge both times.
The F35 was called the X35 project, and it’s a joint strike fighter program. US, UK, and a few other countries.
July 21st, 2009 at 2:15 pm
Damnit Mod…I had a good type up and you completely cleared it. Thanks alot!
July 21st, 2009 at 2:16 pm
Hmmmm….The mod won’t let me talk politics.
July 21st, 2009 at 2:17 pm
Raider O – The Transformers had the C-17’s from my base in the movie. If you look at the tail of the plane, it says Altus. Thats the base I was stationed at. We had C-17’s and C-5’s.
July 21st, 2009 at 2:19 pm
Shoot…DHB should be an SR-71 haha. Sickest plane and also in the Transformers. That was the old Decepticon turned Autobot.
July 21st, 2009 at 2:20 pm
Kirk – I completely agree. I have beat that argument like a dead horse and for some reason, people still love the guy. I don’t understand it.
July 21st, 2009 at 2:22 pm
The entire political system is corupt. If you are any of the 3 major parties, your heaD IS ON BACKWARDS! There is no need for debate…. When we finally realize that operating as a planet instead of segrigated “countries” it will probably be too late.
July 21st, 2009 at 2:22 pm
Dakota – Why in the hell would we sell our planes and our technologies that are made for war to other countries? If thats true…we are simply retarded. Cars are one thing…fighter planes too? Lets just give them the detonation button to our bombs to so they can press them whenever they get tired of us.
July 21st, 2009 at 2:23 pm
Rob Ryan: Nnamdi can cover Devard Darling. We’ll have Hiram Eugene and Chris Johnson double up on Dewayne Bowe
Thomas Howard: hey Rob, we gonna blitz today?
Ryan: you kidding me? that powerful chiefs offense would eat us alive!
Kirk Morrison: who’s covering the TE? me or the SS?
Ryan: you are, ya big dummy! the SS is our run support! what have you learned in the last 4 years?
Michael Huff: Rob, you want me at FS or SS this game? I know we’re interchangable…
Ryan: both. you play centerfield and help the WR’s in coverage. If there is a RB behind the QB you get down in the box!
Huff: there’s almost always a RB, even on passing plays. I think i’m more suited for FS. I should play centerfield and roam. don’t you think?
Ryan: shut up. nobody likes you except Art Shell and he’s outta here. you’re in the box. I could care less about your frame or the defensive front seven. if you miss a tackle, you’re done. I already told Mr. Davis and Tom that you’re the weak link in run support!
July 21st, 2009 at 2:24 pm
thats no reason for Obama to avoid calling the family.
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Avoiding now, that’s what he’s doing? Where’s the link?
No need for name calling. Realizing there are other perspectives may broaden your mind.
July 21st, 2009 at 2:24 pm
24,
Sounds like you have some Air Force experience…what is the scuttlebutt about the F-22 getting cut by the Senate (and the Prez)? Does the Air Force like its dominance being threatened by the Prez?
July 21st, 2009 at 2:24 pm
AZ Raider – Well…Going into religion and if it has any truth to it at all…God split each other up into different areas to keep them from conspiring with each other and now we’re conspiring against each other instead haha. We’re one big show for the man upstairs. A big game of Risk!
July 21st, 2009 at 2:25 pm
Dakota – Honestly…I don’t know. All this info is pretty new and I’m not as into planes as Raider O. Everyone would ask me when I was in the Air Force…are you a pilot? Haha. Not everyone in the Air Force is a pilot.
July 21st, 2009 at 2:26 pm
nobody cares about the Raiders defense?
we’d rather talk about planes, trains & automobiles?
July 21st, 2009 at 2:27 pm
RR – Pretty much.
July 21st, 2009 at 2:27 pm
*right both times.
July 21st, 2009 at 2:28 pm
RR – We care but the blueprint is in the Marshall Plan and nobody has a copy of it so we don’t know whats coming until the bombs start dropping.
July 21st, 2009 at 2:28 pm
and RR…thanks for mentioning trains…we hadn’t brought that up yet.
July 21st, 2009 at 2:29 pm
Uncle Al still has his hands on the defense, huh? IAll I ever wanted is to stop the run!!!!!
July 21st, 2009 at 2:30 pm
RaiderTW – Well thats why Al Davis signed Terdell Sands right? To stop the run. Hahahahaha.
July 21st, 2009 at 2:32 pm
24,
It’s all bad 24, it’s all bad… The money system, technilogical advances are used to kill before they are used to advance society, people have a warpped understanding of God and the universe, it’s just bad new bro, and it’s difficult to start at any one place to get it fixed. most likley we will destroy ourselves as we have done (my belief) many millenia ago, time and time again. WE never survive, but our seed remains and the process starts all over again….. yawn…
July 21st, 2009 at 2:32 pm
“He never has been, but coming here he understands that’s the way Mr. Davis likes it.”
That was funny, Nnamdi pretty much called Al out for dictating the defense, lol.
July 21st, 2009 at 2:33 pm
Look…I’ll say it again. Here’s my dream car. Drool!
http://autoracingsport.com/wp-content/uploads/nascar09/cars/chevy_camaro_2010.jpg
July 21st, 2009 at 2:33 pm
Nnamdi sure seems to be more outspoken now that he has his big contract in his back pocket…
July 21st, 2009 at 2:34 pm
24,
Galaxy and Globemaster!! Huge planes, did you have a chance to fly in the beasts?
July 21st, 2009 at 2:35 pm
I’ve always wanted a Mustang…until I saw the new Camaro…
July 21st, 2009 at 2:38 pm
AZ Raider – Imagine how Obama feels right now. In our country, he has to worry about taxes, throwing out the first pitch at a game, the economy, health care and he has to make peace with overseas countries and fight a war he never started and now he has our troop captured. Being the President is not an easy task.
I thought he handled saving one of our guys on the pirate ship pretty well so I think he’ll take care of this too.
July 21st, 2009 at 2:40 pm
That was funny, Nnamdi pretty much called Al out for dictating the defense
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I think as long as Marshall forces the corners to play man 2 man he can do whatever he wants with the defense. Nnamdi said that a pass rusher is a shutdown corner’s best friend in a different interview this week. Look how fast the players on this team are? Morrison, Howard, Burgess, Ellis, Kelly, Warren, Alston, Scott, Mitchell, Branch, Huff, Routt, etc should be able to get after the QB!!!
Still not sold on our ability to stuff the run though just yet …
July 21st, 2009 at 2:46 pm
I have a very good friend who worked in the aero-space industry for 30+yrs. (built F-14, F-15, F-16, F-18’s, Stealth program, and military satellites. As a Contract Experimental Tool & Die/Machinist)
I asked him several years ago, “Why are we selling our frontline airplanes to foreign govts.?”
His reply was: “The ones we sell them, don’t have all the options on them.”
In other words, we sell ‘em Buicks, and keep the Cadillacs for ourselves.
July 21st, 2009 at 2:49 pm
Rush Limbaugh tells the people in Podunk USA all kinds of crazy things and they believe it. What do they know, they’ve never been outside of Podunk.
July 21st, 2009 at 2:53 pm
909,
That’s true but not with the F35. It is a joint program!
July 21st, 2009 at 2:56 pm
Nice, 24, silver & black. I’ll save that pic to my wallpapers file.
July 21st, 2009 at 2:57 pm
It’s about 5:00 in Podunk, eh RR? Bye.
July 21st, 2009 at 2:58 pm
Dakota Says:
I’ve always wanted a Mustang…until I saw the new Camaro…
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Yeah, the new Mustang is alot cheaper but not practical in a snowy state. I’d still take a ‘69 Camaro if I could keep my truck.
July 21st, 2009 at 3:00 pm
That’s a BAD car 24.
July 21st, 2009 at 3:01 pm
see you guys tomorrow. have a great night
enjoyed the convo, as always
July 21st, 2009 at 3:05 pm
Have a great evening RR.
July 21st, 2009 at 3:07 pm
Raider O – I flew in the C-17. It was cool at first but we were in it for about 3 hours and I was ready to go back. We just flew in a big @$$ circle the whole time. It was a big circle but the seats are sideways up against the walls and I get dizzy pretty easy so it wasn’t the best ride. One person got nauseas and threw up haha. Going into the cockpit was cool and I was there when they had a fuel jet giving the plane some fuel. That was cool.
July 21st, 2009 at 3:19 pm
24,
My fav plane is the P51 Mustang.
Now that’s a BAD plane. Helped us and UK a lot in WW2, especially the UK.
July 21st, 2009 at 3:19 pm
Raider O….
My friend has been retired for a while, but that’s how it worked back in the day. I still think the Pentagon will find a way to keep some exclusive goodies for our F-35’s.
July 21st, 2009 at 3:20 pm
Sup nation by my clock its beer30. Wheres vegas and 4eva
July 21st, 2009 at 3:21 pm
I forgot about the French! If it wasn’t for us and UK, they would be speaking German now. lol
July 21st, 2009 at 3:22 pm
My clock says beer:22 but I’ll take one…
July 21st, 2009 at 3:22 pm
N blunt30.
July 21st, 2009 at 3:24 pm
Atta boy az. Im going 2 the bar 2 play darts after i finish this blunt.
July 21st, 2009 at 3:26 pm
909,
I wouldn’t have it any other way!
I want an advantage at a state of war, and our advantage is better weapons.
July 21st, 2009 at 3:26 pm
yo huff any new links
July 21st, 2009 at 3:26 pm
I’ve got one rolled up sitting next to my jar, waiting for me to get home…. Still got a couple hours to go.
July 21st, 2009 at 3:27 pm
Who said Blunt?
Legalize it!!
July 21st, 2009 at 3:27 pm
24, thanks for the kind words.
Fargas is the Brian Scalabrine of the Raiders
July 21st, 2009 at 3:27 pm
Ok, so am I the only one who watched the 4th and Long series? I know it’s for a Dallas roster spot, but I’m down for anything football.
July 21st, 2009 at 3:29 pm
909,
The plane is just a shell, and what makes it a great plane are:
1- engine
2- radar
3- missile and weapons sys
4- pilot
July 21st, 2009 at 3:31 pm
In AZism, it’s a sin to punish someone for possession or consuption of hemp products. Punishable by clubbing.
July 21st, 2009 at 3:32 pm
we have good engines and pilots, but we have the best Radars and Weapons sys.
July 21st, 2009 at 3:37 pm
AZism sounds great, but are you welling to promise me 99 virgins?
July 21st, 2009 at 3:38 pm
408….
Save your beer cans and go to the used computer store, get a used lap top. To get around your pal the m-o-d.
July 21st, 2009 at 3:39 pm
408 – What kind of links are you looking for?
July 21st, 2009 at 3:39 pm
More… In AZism, you make you own after-life, so it is custom built for the individual. If you want 1,000 virgins and you truely believe they will be there, then they will be.
July 21st, 2009 at 3:41 pm
I’m starting to think that Marijuana will be legal before the end of the Obama Admin. I don’t smoke but once and a great while and I don’t understand the reasoning of keeping it illegal while allowing alcohol. I know the history of it but its just that…history. Its time to let people do it and its way better than cigs.
July 21st, 2009 at 3:42 pm
AZ Raider – What the heck are you talking about? Haha. Look…Virgins are not all their cracked up to be. Too much teaching and not enough action. Its all about experience and what can you do for me without hesitation. haha.
July 21st, 2009 at 3:45 pm
24,
Like I said, in AZism the after-life is what you want it to be, from virgins to vagasil cream rivers, it doesnt matter. Make it your own!
July 21st, 2009 at 3:45 pm
It’s agreat day to be a Raiders fan. Isn’t it?
Ahhh…gotta love those stats — yes, real stats — that show how, even with the post-Gruden “downturn” it’s not the end of the world for Raiders fans.
There are 24-teams in the NFL that have had 8-years or (much) more between Playoff appearances.
At no time in Raiders history, have we had an 8-year Playoff drought. Something 24 other teams cannot boast (neither can their dozens of GM’s).
My (hope and) money’s on Al making sure the Playoff drought has ended long before he’s done. For your perusal:
All time streaks out of the playoffs Franchise
1 New Orleans Saints 20 years – 1967..1986
2 Arizona Cardinals 15 years – 1983..1997
2 New York Giants 15 years – 1966..1980
4 Cincinnati Bengals 14 years – 1991..2004
4 Kansas City Chiefs 14 years – 1972..1985
4 Tampa Bay Buccaneers 14 years – 1983..1996
7 San Diego Chargers 13 years – 1966..1978
8 Atlanta Falcons 12 years – 1966..1977
8 Philadelphia Eagles 12 years – 1966..1977
10 Chicago Bears 11 years – 1966..1976
10 Denver Broncos 11 years – 1966..1976
10 Detroit Lions 11 years – 1971..1981
10 New York Jets 11 years – 1970..1980
14 Green Bay Packers 10 years – 1983..1992
14 New England Patriots 10 years – 1966..1975
14 Seattle Seahawks 10 years – 1989..1998
17 Arizona Cardinals 9 years – 1999..2007
17 Buffalo Bills 9 years – 2000..2008
17 Detroit Lions 9 years – 2000..2008
17 Green Bay Packers 9 years – 1973..1981
17 Indianapolis Colts 9 years – 1978..1986
17 San Diego Chargers 9 years – 1983..1991
17 St. Louis Rams 9 years – 1990..1998
24 Arizona Cardinals 8 years – 1966..1973
24 Atlanta Falcons 8 years – 1983..1990
24 San Diego Chargers 8 years – 1996..2003
24 San Francisco 49ers 8 years – 1973..1980
24 Tennessee Titans 8 years – 1970..1977
July 21st, 2009 at 3:48 pm
Wow, we might make the playoffs again under Al Davis? Yipppeeeee! So what? I thought the Raiders were about Super Bowls?!?!
Some fans are so easily pleased.
July 21st, 2009 at 3:48 pm
AZ,
Nowthus is the mist imprtsnt thing. Do you charge tax in AZism?
July 21st, 2009 at 3:54 pm
still harshing ppls buzz eh dakota.
July 21st, 2009 at 3:56 pm
Hey guys, Al Davis might make us one of the 12 teams that make the playoffs in the next couple of years! Isn’t that great? REDEMPTION!
lol…man, I didn’t know we had so many converted Lions’ fans as part of the Nation…only they are so easily pleased…
July 21st, 2009 at 3:58 pm
you know it 408
July 21st, 2009 at 4:01 pm
PLAYOFFS? PLAYOFFS??? What the hell are those?
July 21st, 2009 at 4:03 pm
Well you can’t have AZism without competition…and this is where it gets complicated. I will convert you all to 24ism. Do whatever the hell you want with a 100% guarentee or your money back. Now thats priceless haha.
July 21st, 2009 at 4:06 pm
Thanks to the Raiders…I LOVE BASEBALL NOW…haha.
July 21st, 2009 at 4:07 pm
Fargas is such a beast @ RB!
But he’s largely a between-the-20s player because of limited receiving skills with just six rushing touchdowns and no receiving touchdowns on 618 carries over the past three seasons.
July 21st, 2009 at 4:15 pm
Wow, Dakota — I thought you knew that teams HAVE TO GO TO THE PLAYOFFS TO GET TO A SUPER BOWL.
Dakota Says:
Wow, we might make the playoffs again under Al Davis? Yipppeeeee! So what? I thought the Raiders were about Super Bowls?!?!
Some fans are so easily pleased.
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And, I never said I would be pleased with a Playoff appearance. Pretty soon, and you’re going to sound exactly like MR — changing other peoples’ mwords and everything.
Lighten-up man…it’s not bad news to any fan, that the Raiders haven’t had Playoff droughts as long as 2/3’s of the league have. If anything (to an objective observer), it shows the resiliency of the organization.
Nobody’s allowed to post anything positive about the Raiders, I guess. Maybe I’ll just…
…keep posting anyway! Cynics be damned.
July 21st, 2009 at 4:19 pm
HayesDaze,
You keep posting the rays of hope and I’ll keep pissing in everyone’s Cheerios…we each have a part to play bro.
July 21st, 2009 at 4:20 pm
HayesDaze37 Says:
July 14th, 2009 at 10:34 pm
HayesDaze37 never said 9 winning seasons in 25 is good. Those are your words.
9-of-25 is not a good winning record.
But…in 13-of-25 years the Raiders were 8-8 or better, with more Playoff wins than 2/3’s of the NFL have to show for it.
That goes for the past 10-years, the past 20-years, the past 30-years, or any other 10+year period you can find.
What, Dude? You can’t find stats to support your case? That’s because they don’t exist the way you guys would like them to.
Dude…KK…ANY hater — MIAMI HAS THE SECOND-MOST WINNING SEASONS THE PAST 20-YEARS (14 OF THEM)…
…AND MIAMI HASN’T WON A THING.
Winning seasons means NOTHING…
July 21st, 2009 at 4:22 pm
We have more important things to do than keep our Military strong in times of War & terrorism. We need to s0cialize health care, save the marsh mouse, fund acorn, takeover pvt enterprise, etc etc.
Change you can disbelieve in!
# Dakota Says:
July 21st, 2009 at 2:02 pm
Raider-o,
Congress just shut down further funding for the F-22 (187 have been built), and part of their reasoning, according to CNN, was that the pentagon intended on building an additional 500 F-35s (total of 2400 F-35s).
From what I read, it sounded like the F-22 was replacing the F-15 as the main air-to-air combat fighter and that the F-35 is replacing the F-18s as main fighter-bomber.
Is that right?
The issues as I understand it, is that the F-35 is going to be sold to other countries, whereas the F-22 was strictly going to be for our use….which would have maintained our air superiority…but now we might be evening the playing field…is that right? Anyone? Anyone?
Go Raiders!
July 21st, 2009 at 4:22 pm
HayesDaze37 Says:
July 14th, 2009 at 9:56 pm
What does it hurt to lose the most games over 6-years?
Ummm…NOTHING, but merchandise and ticket sales.
Oh, and a lot of pride.
But, that’s all.
July 21st, 2009 at 4:29 pm
Dummy shows up right on cue. lol
July 21st, 2009 at 4:30 pm
O,
Thats the best part! You get paid to be there! Problem is, everything is free so the money is useless
July 21st, 2009 at 4:32 pm
beeecham Says:
July 21st, 2009 at 4:28 pm
………………………………………..
Don’t think this guy ever says anything about the Raiders… Just Middle school jokes and stuff. WTF?
July 21st, 2009 at 4:35 pm
I’ll take playoffs over losing anyday until we go to the playoffs 5 years in a row and lose every wild card. Then I’ll want the division round and if we go 5 years without winning the division round, I’ll want the Conference Championship and…well by this time I’d probably have died of old age or something.
July 21st, 2009 at 4:36 pm
The only bombers you guys need to be concerned with is JaMarcus Russell, baby!
July 21st, 2009 at 4:38 pm
The F-22 Raptor can take on 12 F-15’s at a tome. Greatest foghter plane in the world. Even the Russians and Chinese have stolen the plans and are building versions of their own. But you never know what the skunk works has up their sleeves in Palmdale, Ca.
July 21st, 2009 at 4:38 pm
JR has to be able to hit a receiver 5 yards away first before I’m worried about bombers from him.
July 21st, 2009 at 4:39 pm
That’s fighter plane.
July 21st, 2009 at 4:40 pm
Those little dump-offs give him trouble, don’t they. Funny. The 30yd seam strikes to Miller are no problem.
July 21st, 2009 at 4:41 pm
F-22…so pretty.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c0/Two_F-22_Raptor_in_flying.jpg/763px-Two_F-22_Raptor_in_flying.jpg
July 21st, 2009 at 4:41 pm
Funny thing is…a 5 yard dumpoff to McFadden can turn into a 20 yard play and JR can’t get it to him. Just wait till he does.
July 21st, 2009 at 4:43 pm
F-35…I’ve never seen one of these before.
http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2007/11_01/F-35JSF_468×278.jpg
July 21st, 2009 at 4:45 pm
He needs to work on touch. He can rip it though.
July 21st, 2009 at 4:47 pm
F-16, F-35 & F-22 Comparison. We had F-16’s on the Air National Guard base I was at in Fresno. Those things are freakin loud and they only have 1 engine. I can’t imagine hearing the F-15. My dorms were not far from the C-17’s and C-5’s. Those have a sound of their own. Its incredible.
http://www.aerospaceweb.org/question/planes/f35/f16-f35-f22.jpg
July 21st, 2009 at 4:47 pm
Did Favre or Elway have that same touch problem when they were younger?
July 21st, 2009 at 4:49 pm
Lol dakota= king of the buzz kill. Favorit harsh “calm down 408 we arnt big and bad yet” cold part is he was rite. Raider on dakota and nation
July 21st, 2009 at 4:50 pm
I’m glad I won’t have to look at Shanahan’s smirk this season.
July 21st, 2009 at 4:50 pm
Farves first NFL pass was an iterception… That’s all I know. Russells career has already started better than his did.
Kool-aid! DRINK IT!
July 21st, 2009 at 4:51 pm
I think Elway did.
July 21st, 2009 at 4:51 pm
Dakota – What is your take on the NBA signings of Rasheed Wallace to the Celtics, Shaq to the Cavaliers and Ron Artest to the Lakers?
July 21st, 2009 at 4:53 pm
I think they should turn all the NBA teams into NFL2 teams, and stop playing basketball all together.
July 21st, 2009 at 4:53 pm
8 interceptions for a rookie QB is outstanding. And I think under appreciated.
July 21st, 2009 at 4:53 pm
Mark my words…If Norv Turner has a terrible year, him and the G.M. of the team will get fired and they will hire Mike Shanahan as Head Coach/G.M. and he can reign his hate on the Raiders and Broncos for another 15 years haha. Damn.
July 21st, 2009 at 4:54 pm
Huff you know the kind of links you send 2 my email.
July 21st, 2009 at 4:54 pm
8 interceptions is outstanding but I almost feel his inaccuracy had alot to do with that as well. haha.
July 21st, 2009 at 4:55 pm
408 – haha. So you got the last one I sent you?
July 21st, 2009 at 4:55 pm
Eff the chargers!
Eff the Broncos!
Eff the Chiefs!
And STILL Eff the Seahawks!
July 21st, 2009 at 4:55 pm
AZ you seem like a grown up, or at least a dude fighting through adolescence. Do you not agree that Krappy spends way too much time on the blog when he could be out and about enjoying life?
The primary objective here is to get the old dog into a good nursing home where he can get the pant-crapping attention he deserves. Is it right for a senile old man to be cut and pasting lame articles onto this blog when his jammies are filled with doo doo? I think not!
While football talk is a very important thing to do as much as possible, a human’s life – to me, anyway – is a bit more important. Sorry if I love humanity.
July 21st, 2009 at 4:56 pm
408 – I got a new one for you. Go to Bing.com. Click on videos. Type anything you want and turn the safesearch off and you will find plenty of what you’re looking for. Believe it.
July 21st, 2009 at 5:03 pm
Az took the words from my finger tips. I like the way ur thinkig bro. And 24 yes i got the last 1 thank you sir may i have another. I will try bling
July 21st, 2009 at 5:07 pm
In the NFL…every year is tough. I just wish the other teams looked at the Raiders and thought to themselves that we were tough as well but I think most teams look at us and laugh to themselves and think…well I guess we’re not going 0-16 this year.
July 21st, 2009 at 5:07 pm
Free dirty. Bring back thec. Give the mod a swrilly
July 21st, 2009 at 5:09 pm
Swirlly. Dam phone
July 21st, 2009 at 5:09 pm
bing.com, is the fa-schizzle for “research”. So I’ve been told…….
July 21st, 2009 at 5:11 pm
24 – GOOD EVENING
O – GOOD EVENING
408 – GOOD EVENING
KK – GOOD EVENING
TW – GOOD EVENING
OAKGLENN – GOOD EVENING
PRIEST – GOOD EVENING
EXLA – GOOD EVENING
I’m outta here guys, sorry if I forgot anyone.
EFF ‘EM ALL NOT WEARING SILVER AND BLACK!
July 21st, 2009 at 5:11 pm
408 – Who’s your service provider and what kind of phone do you have?
July 21st, 2009 at 5:11 pm
FREE 408’s IP!!
July 21st, 2009 at 5:12 pm
909 – You’ve been told correctly haha. I found out about it because the news reported its concerns about the youth and I jumped all over that information haha.
July 21st, 2009 at 5:12 pm
AZ – Peace out.
July 21st, 2009 at 5:17 pm
Man…My Giants are killing me. Losing 5-0 in the 4th.
July 21st, 2009 at 5:20 pm
Make that 8-0.
July 21st, 2009 at 5:23 pm
KoolKell – Yeah…I know. Its obvious who the culprit was when we had no registration though.
July 21st, 2009 at 5:53 pm
Have a great Evening AZ.
July 21st, 2009 at 6:17 pm
Moss vs Woodson 2003
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/boxscore?gameId=231116013
Woodson Dominates him, 4 catches 25 yards. Memory for some isn’t too good in this case. End of the game, outjumped Moss in the endzone and almost picked off the ball.
July 21st, 2009 at 6:30 pm
Pittsburgh Steelers QB Ben Roethlisberger accused of sexual assault by Starting Blocks, The Plain Dealer
Tuesday July 21, 2009, 12:42 PM
Roethlisberger showed her the television that was malfunctioning, located in suite’s bedroom. Using the remote, she determined that there was no problem with the television or the sound system. She claims that, as she tried to leave the room, Roethlisberger blocked her path, and that he “grabbed [her] and started to kiss her.”
She claims that she was “shocked and stunned that this previously friendly man, that appeared to be a gentleman in her previous contacts with him was suddenly preventing her from leaving, was assaulting and battering her.”
McNulty admits that she didn’t try to fight Roethlisberger, citing his size and strength. She claims that she “communicated her objection and lack of consent,” . . .
McNulty claims that she told him, “You don’t want to do this.” She also claims that she said, “Please don’t.”
July 21st, 2009 at 6:37 pm
I’ll keep pissing in everyone’s Cheerios…we each have a part to play bro.
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Hey, AZ, how’s it going. Don’t eat the Cheerios!
July 21st, 2009 at 6:43 pm
…or drink the Kool-Aide.
July 21st, 2009 at 6:44 pm
…I wouldn’t drink the Flavor-Aide either.
July 21st, 2009 at 6:47 pm
..I wouldn’t listen to any Preachers either. especially ones with syringes.
July 21st, 2009 at 6:50 pm
# Mistabrown Says:
July 21st, 2009 at 4:22 pm
We have more important things to do than keep our Military strong in times of War & terrorism. We need to s0cialize health care, save the marsh mouse, fund acorn, takeover pvt enterprise, etc etc.
Change you can disbelieve in!
# Dakota Says:
July 21st, 2009 at 2:02 pm
Raider-o,
Congress just shut down further funding for the F-22 (187 have been built), and part of their reasoning, according to CNN, was that the pentagon intended on building an additional 500 F-35s (total of 2400 F-35s).
From what I read, it sounded like the F-22 was replacing the F-15 as the main air-to-air combat fighter and that the F-35 is replacing the F-18s as main fighter-bomber.
Is that right?
The issues as I understand it, is that the F-35 is going to be sold to other countries, whereas the F-22 was strictly going to be for our use….which would have maintained our air superiority…but now we might be evening the playing field…is that right? Anyone? Anyone?
Go Raiders!
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The F-35 was a failed aircraft that required 30 hours of maintenance for every couple of minutes in was in the air. It was too expensive to continue to deploy, and ridiculous to order more of them. Both Obama and McCain agreed on that. One of the rare things they both agreed on. Right now, the US spends more on military than the next 7 nations COMBINED. That is another of the great Republican hypocrisies: They want to cut fat out of government, but the military they espouse, is the fattest most bloated part of government. The military budget is over 20% of total government expenditures, 2.5 times the amount we spend on education. Short run spending on military can be an economic boom, but from a long term national economic growth perspective, military expenditures are a catastrophic economic driver, as the money is not reincorporated back into the general economy.
In his lst few years as president, Bill Clinton cut the defense budget greatly. Stock Investors took their money out of defense contractors like Ratheon and General Dynamics, and put them into small tech companies that fostered this new thing called “the internet”. The result was a boom thru many different economic sectors. This doesn’t happen with military spending for the most part. (See Soviet Union, 1980-1988). Right now, thanks to Bush II and the Republicans, and their almost doubling of the defense budget this century, (very little of which went to actual soldiers) we are Soviet Union circa 1987.
July 21st, 2009 at 7:11 pm
Oak,
I never heard that about the F-35, very interesting.
July 21st, 2009 at 7:42 pm
Bush & DMC = Thunder & Lightning.
July 21st, 2009 at 9:11 pm
# Mistabrown Says:
July 21st, 2009 at 4:22 pm
We have more important things to do than keep our Military strong in times of War & terrorism. We need to s0cialize health care, save the marsh mouse, fund acorn, takeover pvt enterprise, etc etc.
Change you can disbelieve in!
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We already have socialized health care. It’s called the county hospital. Tons of people go there. In fact, too many people go there so we might as well expand the program and do what every other developed country on earth has done.
As for saving the marsh mouse, even tho it may seem petty and ridiculous, some of these species (whether they are plants, small mammals like the marsh mouse, or insects like bees), have a HUGE impact on such minor issues such as the food chain!! You see, Bees pollinate all kinds of foods that end up down your gullet. Even tho you don’t care and they may seem inconsequential, without them we don’t eat.
Lastly certain privatizations seem to work just fine. The roads, bridges, Berkeley library system is awesome, NY Fire Dept did a great job last time I looked, and what you just saying about the US military??
July 21st, 2009 at 9:14 pm
Give me the Spirt Of St.Louie and pistol and im good.
July 21st, 2009 at 10:09 pm
Oak, you’re one bad Dude bro. Well schooled on a variety of subjects……go get ‘em
July 21st, 2009 at 10:35 pm
Yo…Raiders will survive regular season and then just like wild card season win SB! We have to many weapons and the defense is solid.
July 21st, 2009 at 10:38 pm
I will be there form pre-season till post. I know many of you might have questions about our defense but i am positive it will wreck havoc!
July 21st, 2009 at 10:41 pm
[...] drills, Oakland running back Darren McFadden is the team’s most explosive runner/receiver, according to Raiders beat writer Jerry McDonald. “And his paycheck befits a lead runner,” McDonald adds of the second-year [...]
July 21st, 2009 at 11:01 pm
Haven’t read the previous 185 posts, but i will, But i just have to say….
If the Raiders don’t run Bush relentlessly into the middle, and threaten with Dmac outside….I don’t want to consider what my complaints will be with management of their gameplan…I may join MR with my hatred of all that is Raider! DON’T WANT TO DO THAT!!!
July 21st, 2009 at 11:08 pm
Fargas-Bush will work itself out. They key is McFadden…We will dominate in the running game and find our way in the passing game.
July 21st, 2009 at 11:21 pm
Bush is the every down back…everybody else feeds off that threat….DMAC included
July 21st, 2009 at 11:24 pm
Bush is Fargas with downfield speed, hands, and touchdown-scoring capability. Pound him all day and off-set him with DMAC’s outside, and pass-catching capabilities
July 21st, 2009 at 11:26 pm
Bush = Natrone Means
Dmac = Ronnie Harmon
July 21st, 2009 at 11:27 pm
DMAC is soft…..until he proves he is NOT!
July 21st, 2009 at 11:30 pm
Reggie Bush needs an OC to make him a viable weapon, so does DMAC. His skills are deception and trickery, not 15 to 20 carries up the middle.
July 21st, 2009 at 11:37 pm
Al Davis football is threaten them deep and open up the short and middle for fast freakin guys and play take-away football on defense.
If you don’t like or understand that…you are not a RAIDER fan….simple as that! MR, Dude, KK, Crow…or anybody as young as Dakota or all you other “fans” that whine about what has happened lately, for instance, the last 6 years.
July 21st, 2009 at 11:42 pm
Well Said.
July 21st, 2009 at 11:48 pm
We “Al Davis” apologizers like that exciting, intimidating style of football that the Raiders are supposed to play. If you want high percentage, conservative, easy to succeed without talent type of football, then go cheer for the Steelers or Ravens. We won’t miss you, and we will P!SS all over you when we come to your town and beat you badly, as we are shaping ourselves to do, IN THE RAIDER FASHION, get it…or GET LOST. Al Davis invented it, and we love it, or leave it.
July 21st, 2009 at 11:59 pm
you “young” “new” fans are quick to say forget history and our legacy, but why then have you picked the Raiders as your team to cheer for? because of our history and legacy, so embrace it and become a supporter of it instead of a detractor, the time is right to do so because we are on the brink of coming back and becoming dominant for many years again…and sorry to tell you, Al Davis had a big part in it.
RAIDER ON!!!
July 22nd, 2009 at 12:00 am
or you just like how cool our uniforms look
July 22nd, 2009 at 12:04 am
Vertical Stretch…Man to Man D…superior athletes winning one-on-one battles…Silver and Black…Raider football!
Gotta luv it!
July 22nd, 2009 at 12:16 am
MR, MaddenRaider, Dude
I am sorry that Al Davis had his way with your Mothers and/or sisters, but wishing him dead and predicting never-ending failure for the Raiders until he dies, will only lead to more counselling and disappointment for you because the Raiders are on the verge of becoming the dominant team in the NFL again, and then you will have more issues to deal with than you have already. Sucks to be you! but I guess it always has
July 22nd, 2009 at 12:25 am
back to Oakglenn and Dakota…military spending is great for comsumption goods, great in the short term as far as contract and jobs go, but in a protracted situation it is just a drain on the ecomomy as it has no beneficial return into the country.
July 22nd, 2009 at 12:34 am
Ouch….
July 22nd, 2009 at 12:43 am
Ellis, Curry, Jackson, Randolph and Beidrins! Look out Lakers……
July 22nd, 2009 at 3:42 am
Random Drug Tester,
1 There is only one MR. The Real MaddenRaider.
2 I am not “dude”. Do you honestly believe there is only one Al basher here? You can’t be that retarded. Then again, you’re a Davis worshiper, so it’s possible.
3 I don’t have a sister.
4 I do have a mother, but I doubt AD had his way with her. Al Davis went from being a lanky dork to an old recluse. The man never had his “way” with women.
5 It sucks to be Al Davis. He’s old, senile, and loses year after year. He’s made fun of by everyone. Go anywhere sans some stupid Raider bar, and talk about how great Al Davis is, and watch how quick you get laughed out of the place.
July 22nd, 2009 at 3:46 am
# Random Drug Tester Says:
July 22nd, 2009 at 12:04 am
Vertical Stretch…Man to Man D…superior athletes winning one-on-one battles…Silver and Black…Raider football!
Gotta luv it!
……
Winning one on one battles?
2003: 4-12
2004: 5-11
2005: 4-12
2006: 2-14
2007: 4-12
2008: 5-11
Random Drug Tester, you should rename yourself Mandatory Drug Tester, and test yourself.
July 22nd, 2009 at 3:47 am
Random Drug Tester Says:
July 21st, 2009 at 11:59 pm
you “young” “new” fans are quick to say forget history and our legacy
………..
That’s because with each passing year, it gets longer and longer since the last time we’ve won. Naturally, people are going to forget. We’re nearing the decade mark since having a winning season. Do you realize that, idiot?
July 22nd, 2009 at 5:20 am
Look out Lakers ha ha ha Kobe>every guy on dubs roster
Their is this thing called Defense for some reason nelson and dubs don’t play .
GO RAIDERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
GO LAKERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
July 22nd, 2009 at 5:21 am
Yeah bush fargas better work it self out, with fargas playing for las vegas this season and rankin making the team.
July 22nd, 2009 at 6:04 am
GOOD MORNING SPORT’S FAN’S,AS LONG AS ONE OF THESE RUNNING BACK’S BREAK’S OUT AND HAS AN ALL-PRO SEASON,OR 3 OR 4, I DO NOT CARE WHICH ON IT IS.MORE THAN ONE MAYBE..
July 22nd, 2009 at 6:15 am
Morning Nation!!!!!! we definitly have a nice problem in the backfield!!! Too many is never a bad thing with out a superatar!!! Untill someone emerges I say we basicly need all 3…..Not one of these dudes has ever made it a full season with out some sort of hampering injury……..
Gallery to the PROBOWL!!!!!!!
July 22nd, 2009 at 6:17 am
good morning NMF, Dirt Lot, OAKlifer …
July 22nd, 2009 at 6:19 am
Not one of these dudes has ever made it a full season with out some sort of hampering injury……
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Michael Bush wasn’t injured last year!
(or his rookie year, but Kiffin placed him on the shelf anyways!)
July 22nd, 2009 at 6:20 am
Gabby, get these nice gents some coffee please
July 22nd, 2009 at 6:22 am
Podunk, Connecticut
Podunk (Ulysses), New York
Podunk, Vermont
Podunk, Michigan
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so, uh … which Podunk do you guys think i’m from?
LOL
July 22nd, 2009 at 6:23 am
ROETHLISBERGER “ACCUSED” OF RAPE. LET’S SEE HOW THIS WORK’S OUT…
July 22nd, 2009 at 6:24 am
IDAHO..
July 22nd, 2009 at 6:26 am
Dirt Lot: yeah. ESPN completely avoided the Big Ben story! amazing
July 22nd, 2009 at 6:35 am
you guys might think this is funny. I know I did
I had my monthly meeting with the boss yesterday and she pulled some sort of productivity report to show me how I ranked among other employees here and I get 3 times the amount of work done than they do! hahaha
Thats amazing to me, as much time as I spent on Raider websites or Jerry’s blog! So i’ve been with this organization for 3 years (transferred to this building and got a new boss last Sept). I’m the accountant and they are asking me to write a report and customize it in our software program. LOL
they got me registered for seminars on red flag compliance training on 06/30 and conflict resolution training on 07/27. preparing me for a management position sometime soon (within 14 months)
July 22nd, 2009 at 6:41 am
WELL DESERVED ROCKSTAR,LET US KNOW WHEN YOUR IN A POSITION TO DO SOME HIRING.. LOL
July 22nd, 2009 at 6:42 am
Dirt Lot: you willing to move to Podunk?
LOL
July 22nd, 2009 at 6:45 am
With just over a week to go until the Raiders report to training camp in Napa, Asomugha spoke on a variety of team-related topics, specifically on new defensive coordinator Jim Marshall.
“He’s got a few more coverages than we’ve had in the past, so he might be able to use that,” Asomugha said of Marshall, who has been off limits to the media since replacing Rob Ryan.
“(Marshall is) still a dominant man-to-man guy. He never has been, but coming here he understands that’s the way Mr. Davis likes it. And he sees the talent that we have and the speed so he’s fallen into that. So we’re still going to do man, still going to free up linebackers and other guys like that. But he’s got a lot more blitzing, a lot more coverages, so we should be fine.”
There had been talk that Marshall’s scheme might free up Asomugha to shadow the other teams’ No. 1 receiver.
“It may happen,” he said. “This has never been something that we here have done. We’ve always just kept me where I am (on the field) and then double team whoever’s on the left. I think if it’s someone that’s really dominant then we (move me) but nowadays the No. 2 receiver is almost as good as the No. 1. So you never know who to take.”
-Paul Gutierrez (Sac Bee)
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repost from yesterday. I gave this to the PM crew … what are the thoughts from the ever-enlightened AM crew ???
July 22nd, 2009 at 6:54 am
HEY,I LOVE IDAHO. THAT IS GOOD 2 HEAR ROCKSTAR,SERIOUSLY.
July 22nd, 2009 at 6:54 am
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4346612
NO one better be after Southwick!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
This could be a good move for Losman tho!!!
Does anyone think this leauge will evolve into any thing or is this just a “mickey mouse” leauge like the one our Beloved RIADUUUHHHHs come from!?!?!?!??!?!
July 22nd, 2009 at 6:57 am
(or his rookie year, but Kiffin placed him on the shelf anyways!)
You sure he was healthy his rookie year?????
Last year maybe!
July 22nd, 2009 at 6:58 am
Mornin’ Oaklifer,RR. Dirtlot,
Don’t eat the Cheerios:
Dako says: I’ll keep pissing in everyone’s Cheerios…we each have a part to play bro.
July 22nd, 2009 at 7:02 am
This Big Ben cr*p is BS! I’m tired of these broke dirty breezies trying to get a hand out. Does anyone really think Ben has to force him self on some dirty breezy? I don’t. Get a life trailer trash breezy!
July 22nd, 2009 at 7:02 am
You sure he was healthy his rookie year?????
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yes. Bush’s agent sent a letter from his doctor to every NFL team prior to the draft clearing him to play and absorb contact
Kiffin placed him on IR as a precaution – which might have been a blessing in hindsight. Would hate to have had him reinjure that leg. doctors aren’t always 100 percent accurate (especially if he got paid!)
July 22nd, 2009 at 7:02 am
Oakglenn Says:
July 21st, 2009 at 6:50 pm
The F-35 was a failed aircraft that required 30 hours of maintenance for every couple of minutes in was in the air. It was too expensive to continue to deploy, and ridiculous to order more of them. Both Obama and McCain agreed on that. One of the rare things they both agreed on. Right now, the US spends more on military than the next 7 nations COMBINED. That is another of the great Republican hypocrisies: They want to cut fat out of government, but the military they espouse, is the fattest most bloated part of government. The military budget is over 20% of total government expenditures, 2.5 times the amount we spend on education. Short run spending on military can be an economic boom, but from a long term national economic growth perspective, military expenditures are a catastrophic economic driver, as the money is not reincorporated back into the general economy.
In his lst few years as president, Bill Clinton cut the defense budget greatly. Stock Investors took their money out of defense contractors like Ratheon and General Dynamics, and put them into small tech companies that fostered this new thing called “the internet”. The result was a boom thru many different economic sectors. This doesn’t happen with military spending for the most part. (See Soviet Union, 1980-1988). Right now, thanks to Bush II and the Republicans, and their almost doubling of the defense budget this century, (very little of which went to actual soldiers) we are Soviet Union circa 1987.
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A most lucid comment, albeit depressing. What I don’t understand is how this is all Fargas’ fault…
July 22nd, 2009 at 7:06 am
good morning TW, AZ …
TW: how was your flight? enjoying the weather in CA?
July 22nd, 2009 at 7:07 am
What I don’t understand is how this is all Fargas’ fault…
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good morning BSJ. have a bowl of cheerios, we’ll tell you all about it!
July 22nd, 2009 at 7:15 am
Morning All!
Where’s my coffee RR?!
July 22nd, 2009 at 7:16 am
What I don’t understand is how this is all Fargas’ fault…
BSJ, somehow…it just is!!
I leave later today but it’s nice in Denver. How’s Podunk?
July 22nd, 2009 at 7:23 am
Just kidding RR, if anything I grew up in Podunk usa. A place called Borger Texas where if god gives the earth enimas this would be the place for the nozzle!!!
July 22nd, 2009 at 7:30 am
Well, I’m ready for the damn preseason to start. Want to get a look at DHB and Murphy, Mitchell and Huff, yatta yatta… Man it will be a war zone in here is we go 0-3. All the haters will be in heavin spilling all the kool-aid in here. I’m ready for 15 loses if we win the opener though LOL.
Just hope for improvement and I’ll be happy…
9-7!!!! Waaaaahooo!
July 22nd, 2009 at 7:31 am
Where’s my coffee RR?!
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AZ: ask Gabby, she our waitress!
i’ll tell her to put it on my tab
July 22nd, 2009 at 7:35 am
****Jerry, Jerry, Jerry, Jerry, come on man**********
Jerry,
I am with you on everything except injuries will determine the rotation. If a guy can’t go, he can’t go but to expand on that. I am not sure why we want to rely on a running back getting hurt to determine our running formations and game plans. I think it is about getting the best talent on the field. In my opinion if Cable and the Offensive Coordinator does not have a number of packages where Bush and DMAC are on the field at the same time he is lacking vision man. You can’t pay for the top talent than keep them on the sideline watching the game. I have said this before but when Marcus Allen and Bo Jackson were on the field at the same time back in the late 80s early 90s the were a two headed monster. Bo of course the speed and power to bounce outside, but an aged Marcus Allen was able to catch out the backfield, which made the linebackers back up to cover Marcus in the flats. Now I am not ready to call either one a Bo or Marcus but they both have speed and power and to their advantage they both can catch and throw (recall Marcus Allen half back pass/even lined up as QB one game).
I would like to see Bush in the backfield and Mc Fadden split. Could you imagine McFadden running a reverse 1st qtr. than 3rd qtr. McFadden fakes a reverse and throws a pass to Chaz or DHB selling an out than fly pattern.
After the opposing defense has been chasing DMAC and Bush all day we bring in an aging but tough Fargas to run hard for third and forth. Fargas could even be effective in 20 yrds and in situations.
We can’t go into the season thinking we run the same plays and just fill in any back. Someone will always get left out. I like Fargas but he is no break away threat. Every game Bush touched the ball there was big chunks of yardage being ate up. If we don’t get Bush in after this year he will get tired of standing on the sidelines and he will get traded. The team that gets him (except the Lions) will get a back that will get 1000+ yards a year easy. Watch and see Raider nation.
Look what Tenn. was able to do with Lendale White and Chris Johnson on the field at the same time. Talking about a two headed monster. Now what if Tenn. said, “well we will just rotate each back based on who gets hurt, their schemes would not have been as effective.”
July 22nd, 2009 at 7:36 am
Mornin, RR, AZ, TW, Bo, Oak, DLF.
July 22nd, 2009 at 7:38 am
TW: Podunk is considered the “middle of nowhere” right?
The Springfield, Missouri Metropolitan Area had an estimated population of 420,020 people 2 years ago. Now sure what it is now?
I was born in Santa Rosa, CA and lived in Lodi, CA for 25 years. I just moved to MO 3 years ago and Springfield is much bigger (and cleaner) than the Lodi/Stockton area. Yet somehow that ignorant old coot Kell thinks I was born & bred in rural Arkansas or something …
July 22nd, 2009 at 7:40 am
RR, Springfield MO?? Lot of huntin, and fishin in your part huh?
July 22nd, 2009 at 7:45 am
Look what Tenn. was able to do with Lendale White and Chris Johnson on the field at the same time. Talking about a two headed monster.
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CJ: teams like Carolina, Jacksonville, Minnesota, Pittsburg & Tennessee have solid o-lines and d-lines to go with their talented RB’s. They are built for smash mouth football. The Raiders are built on speed, not toughness.
Games are won in the trenches. So our rushing attack depends on how well the o-line performs. Apart from Gallery, our o-line is built with a bunch of mid to late draft picks and/or cast offs from other teams. Now if Cable and his buddy from Cal and take this group of scrubs and make it a cohesive productive unit the ground game will flourish. A lot of OL success is determined by ther ability to gel as a unit and most of these guys are going into Year 3 together under Cable. Satele is the new guy, but at an extremely critical position.
July 22nd, 2009 at 7:46 am
Lot of huntin, and fishin in your part huh?
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good morning Dirty. yes, tons of it. It’s a beautiful situation
July 22nd, 2009 at 7:47 am
I know his rookie year was far from what every one wanted but Dmac is a rb with the skills to be a game changer, remember how garner could take a swing pass to the house it changed us from dink and dunk team to a instant threat to score from anywhere on the field . Dmac has amazing ability to catch the ball get him in open spaces and watch the td pile up , and let bush hammer the line , we will be better my god dmac/bush vs the last few years of jordan/fargas yeah im psyched for the season to start.
GO RAIDERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
July 22nd, 2009 at 7:48 am
Lake of the Ozarks is nice…
July 22nd, 2009 at 7:50 am
Good Morning Nation.
Morning AZ, RR, TW, Raccoon, OAK, Bo, and CJ.
July 22nd, 2009 at 7:52 am
Good Morning NMF.
July 22nd, 2009 at 7:53 am
Lake of the Ozarks is nice
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Agreed. I love it there
July 22nd, 2009 at 7:53 am
I got a meeting to attend now.
catch up with you folks later
July 22nd, 2009 at 7:54 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
July 22nd, 2009 at 7:45 am
Look what Tenn. was able to do with Lendale White and Chris Johnson on the field at the same time. Talking about a two headed monster.
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CJ: teams like Carolina, Jacksonville, Minnesota, Pittsburg & Tennessee have solid o-lines and d-lines to go with their talented RB’s. They are built for smash mouth football. The Raiders are built on speed, not toughness.
Games are won in the trenches. So our rushing attack depends on how well the o-line performs. Apart from Gallery, our o-line is built with a bunch of mid to late draft picks and/or cast offs from other teams. Now if Cable and his buddy from Cal and take this group of scrubs and make it a cohesive productive unit the ground game will flourish. A lot of OL success is determined by ther ability to gel as a unit and most of these guys are going into Year 3 together under Cable. Satele is the new guy, but at an extremely critical position.
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RR,
I agree with what you are saying about the o-line to match for smash mouth football but the zone blocking was used by Cable to do some good things in ATL. They had two backs get close to 1000 yards in Dunn adn can’t recall the other back. Look what Bush was able to do in Tampa. There were some good blocks made that game. Now I am not buying into the Raider o-line. We need better lineman but with our Running back speed in DMAC and Bush we can can make that formation happen.
Neal coming in to lead block is great as well. Place D-Mac at flanker one play, Neal lead blocker and Bush in the backfield. We have to do a better job of letting our top talent either make plays or create miss match problems.
In other words RR, it is time our athletes start earnign respect around the league. The Dolphins scared the living you know what out of teams with their Wild Cat formation. I don’t think it was just the wild cat. They let their talented players loose and make plays. That is why we had the success at the end of last year. Cable let the talent loose. Same players, same plays, he just let them play.
July 22nd, 2009 at 7:55 am
Mornin, O, NMF
July 22nd, 2009 at 7:57 am
Morning O!
Best RB tandem in the league!
Best CB tandem in the league!
Now show us!
July 22nd, 2009 at 7:59 am
NoMoreFargas Says:
July 22nd, 2009 at 7:47 am
I know his rookie year was far from what every one wanted but Dmac is a rb with the skills to be a game changer, remember how garner could take a swing pass to the house it changed us from dink and dunk team to a instant threat to score from anywhere on the field . Dmac has amazing ability to catch the ball get him in open spaces and watch the td pile up , and let bush hammer the line , we will be better my god dmac/bush vs the last few years of jordan/fargas yeah im psyched for the season to start.
GO RAIDERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Now you are talking!!! Open the game up and the talent play ball man. You can’t make TDs leaving your talent on the sideline. Jordan/Fargas don’t make me vomit!!! Jordan had the nerve to wear Bo Jackson’s #34. What a joke! A poor mans “Bo Jackson”!
July 22nd, 2009 at 8:02 am
Mornin’ AZ, O,
the best tandem I wish we had is O line & D line. Skill stops are covered.
July 22nd, 2009 at 8:04 am
Patience T-Dub!
Can’t do it all in 3 drafts. We will improve this year and draft defensive and Offensive lines next season, watch…
I’m drinkin IT CAUSE IT TASTES GOOD!
July 22nd, 2009 at 8:06 am
Bush was a great back at College, so I never understood how that knee injury took him out of the 1st 3 RDs. There were only 2 backs as good as Bush or better in that draft, AP & ML. He was The steal of the draft.
We have a lot of young Talent on offense:
1- JR
2- DMC
3- Bush
4- Miller
5- Chaz
6- JLH
7- DHB
8- Murphy ( who I think is the steal of this draft)
9- Mario
10- Satele
July 22nd, 2009 at 8:07 am
Now in English:
Skill SPOTS are covered.
July 22nd, 2009 at 8:09 am
O says:
Bush was a great back at College, so I never understood how that knee injury took him out of the 1st 3 RDs.
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MR would say Al made another bo Jackson like steal & will ruin Bush in a yr or two.
July 22nd, 2009 at 8:12 am
Scarlett Johansson & Mickey Rourke are in the new Ironman movie. Love ScarJo.
July 22nd, 2009 at 8:15 am
AZ,
I’m not sold on CJ, not yet.
He did great last season, but I never heard of him before.
Also hard to imagine a player at age 29/30 funding his game. What was he doing the last 8 years?!? lol
It’s not impossible, but not the Norm. Look at K Warner!
TW,
I hear you bro. I’ll take 1 Great line, and I will be happy.
The last few years have proved that we lacked talent and coaching in both lines. (before Cable)
July 22nd, 2009 at 8:15 am
Think your right about Murphy, but I think in 3 years DHB will show his worth at #7. We’ll see…
July 22nd, 2009 at 8:17 am
TW,
LMAO @ 254 & 255
July 22nd, 2009 at 8:17 am
Johnson sat the bench as no other team gave him a legit shot. However, before last season he attended Prime-times DB camp… It obviously stepped his game up. I was blow away by his play last year. He’s no Aso, but I’d trust him as my #1 if Aso didn’t get signed.
July 22nd, 2009 at 8:20 am
Jebus fukking krist!, man what a stage, wooooooooohooooo
July 22nd, 2009 at 8:20 am
—A MUST READ ON A CLASSIC RAIDER RUNNING GAME—-
Raider Nation
If you younger guys want to see rather than hear of two great backs you have to watch Bo Jackson and Marcus Allen on Youtube. These guys including Marcus in his prime could score a TD from almost any place on the field at anytime.
The first time I saw Bo Jackson play was against the Detroit Lions back when they had Berry Sanders. It was called the Berry and Bo show. Berry had about 2 TDs and Bo had a bout 2 TDs. Both great running backs both Heisman trophy winners. (Side note: Marcus Allen, Tim Brown and Andre Ware were also there- all Heisman Trophy winners).
The most memorable runs were the following:
Berry Sanders scored on a 20 yard run where he made three defenders miss on a sweep where he made three spins at full speed going into the end zone. Berry’s balance was amazing.
Bo Jackson comes right back on the Raiders first set of plays and streaks past three defenders off tackle and the takes it back for a 55 YARD TD. I have never seen a guy that fast in my life. His upper torso was all muscle he wore big pads like a LB. He was running so fast(honest)his legs had a blur to them. There were a number of defenders who had the angle but he still beat them all night. Then if you actually got him he would lower those big pads and punish you.
I found this on the internet
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CLASSIC GAME OF RUNNINGBACKS:
(12-10-90) LA Raiders vs Detroit Lions – MNF – “The Bo Jackson and Barry Sanders show” – In an entertaining Monday Night contest, the Los Angeles Raiders came from behind to post a hard-fought 38-31 victory over the Lions. The game featured two of the games’ best running backs — Detroit’s Barry Sanders and the Raiders’ Bo Jackson. Sanders finished the game with a 176 yards on 25 carries while Jackson led the Raiders with 129 yards on 18 carries, including a 55-yard TD run. Los Angels QB Jay Schroeder led the Raiders’ passing attack with three touchdowns, including a 68-yard scoring strike to WR Willie Gault.
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Note: Bo could have had more yardage but Art Shell and him splitting time with Marcus Allen. Berry of course was the featured back in the Lion’s offense. Also Shroeder had some good WRs to help him out he would throw interceptions at the worse times in a game.
July 22nd, 2009 at 8:21 am
Kinda surprised we’ve been avoiding the obvious here guys.
What about the Oline?
At a minimum, we have 3 areas of concern in LT, RT, and C. Not saying that those positions are a weakness, but we can turn that around and say that we don’t know that it is a stregnth. And I throw in the aging Carlisle as a 4th concern.
July 22nd, 2009 at 8:23 am
I actually would like to see
LT – Henderson
LG – Gallery
C – Satele
RG – McQuistan
RT – Barnes
July 22nd, 2009 at 8:23 am
AZ,
I’m not saying he will be better than DHB, but that he was a great pick for the 4th RD.
Just like T Scott was the steal of last year’s draft. Had more sacks than all the other DEs who were taken before him.
That’s Bush one year, Scott the next, and maybe Murphy. Not bad for an old man who has lost it.
July 22nd, 2009 at 8:26 am
No doubt O, I knew what you were saying. Murphy was a projected 2nd round talent. H*ll yeah as steal in the 4th.
July 22nd, 2009 at 8:26 am
I’ll be back in a few hours. Later gents.
July 22nd, 2009 at 8:26 am
…not that we care about projections
July 22nd, 2009 at 8:29 am
Jhill,
We’ll get there… Like I said, we can’t do it all in 3 drafts. Improve with what we got this year, and draft both lines next year.
It tastes good!
July 22nd, 2009 at 8:40 am
La Milicia Negra Says:
July 22nd, 2009 at 8:20 am
Jebus fukking krist!, man what a stage, wooooooooohooooo
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You mean Madonna’s stage that collapsed on the frogs? Nothing to woohoo about….
July 22nd, 2009 at 8:45 am
Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
July 22nd, 2009 at 8:40 am
La Milicia Negra Says:
July 22nd, 2009 at 8:20 am
Jebus fukking krist!, man what a stage, wooooooooohooooo
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You mean Madonna’s stage that collapsed on the frogs? Nothing to woohoo about…
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dont care about madonna, her and her phony kabala beliefs…
the time-trial tomorrow will turn around the leads again, but then there is mont ventoux left, and then it all will change once more…. efff the first week =)
July 22nd, 2009 at 8:46 am
AZ Raider Says:
July 22nd, 2009 at 8:04 am
Patience T-Dub!
Can’t do it all in 3 drafts. We will improve this year and draft defensive and Offensive lines next season, watch…
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Maybe in the sixth round. Our first five picks will be two FAST DBs, a tweener LB, one more WR and a TE.
July 22nd, 2009 at 8:47 am
That would be disapointing Bo, but anything is possible, so good guess!
July 22nd, 2009 at 8:48 am
a stage win is a great way to avenge the loss of Jens Voigt, he crashed yesterday with 50mph, head first, ouch :/
July 22nd, 2009 at 8:54 am
La Milicia Negra Says:
July 22nd, 2009 at 8:45 am
Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
July 22nd, 2009 at 8:40 am
La Milicia Negra Says:
July 22nd, 2009 at 8:20 am
Jebus fukking krist!, man what a stage, wooooooooohooooo
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You mean Madonna’s stage that collapsed on the frogs? Nothing to woohoo about…
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dont care about madonna, her and her phony kabala beliefs…
the time-trial tomorrow will turn around the leads again, but then there is mont ventoux left, and then it all will change once more…. efff the first week =)
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What are you talking about?
July 22nd, 2009 at 8:57 am
AH….Run DMC left and right. Give Bush the ball on 3rd and 5. Give Fargas some hard running to give DMC a breather….were ok in the backfield. Alot will depend on our playcalling.
July 22nd, 2009 at 8:58 am
71,
If we don’t attempt any 75 yard field goals I’ll be happy.
July 22nd, 2009 at 8:59 am
I like the way Cable was mixing it up the last few weeks.
July 22nd, 2009 at 9:03 am
No fake field goals either Coach! But you can gimmick that Bush to Watkins play any day!
July 22nd, 2009 at 9:12 am
Yeah that fake fg was some serious SHIGG….When Cable took over calling the plays I thought we finnaly “DONT” look predictable. If we can somehow get the pass game going I think we will not have the 3 and outs which really hurt our D especially the big guys up front who need rest for stopping the run. If we pass effectivley it helps the whole team and wins. Lets just hope Jruss and company achieved something other than hanging out.
July 22nd, 2009 at 9:20 am
good morning Raider O, LMN, Jhill …
July 22nd, 2009 at 9:21 am
O Line, O Line, and more O Line!
Can we pass protect?
Can we not jump offsides?
Can we not hold?
Our offense will be as good as our pass protection!
July 22nd, 2009 at 9:22 am
Mornin RRS!
July 22nd, 2009 at 9:23 am
I’d like to see 2 wide 1 TE and split backs (DMAC & BUSH). Soooo many options from there. Run either RB, end around, screen passes, play action, wildcat… Love the formation and never seen the Raiders use it.
July 22nd, 2009 at 9:29 am
Sorry Az, but I totally disagree!
We need to have 3 WRs on the field and Miller. Chaz, DHB, JLH or Murphy all the time. Dictate the defense the other team is going to play is what I say. They HAVE to play nickle and leave both Safties deep which will leave ridiculous space for DMac.
Bring in Bush to pound the rock once we get up 10 pts or more, and in short yardage situations. Other than that, Dmac, and more DMac is the way to go.
July 22nd, 2009 at 9:29 am
I predict that J Russ will improved this year.
I like the confidence I saw in him the last couple of games.
He is very comfortable with Zach Miller at TE. Bringing in another blocking TE will help Zach get off the line and a runnign game could open it up even more. For a QB that can only throw the ball 80 yards down the field he sure does find Zach a lot on drags and crossing routes. J Russ issue is not with arm strength or touch it is with trust, rythm and confidence with his WR. HE and Mille rmake plays because they are in rythm. Plus, Zach has some hands and will go up and get the rock! Chaz and JLH has improved as well. Yeah, I am thinking big things! Plus, no new head coach and Power Point presentations witht the GM this year.
Yeah, big things this year.
July 22nd, 2009 at 9:31 am
I actually would like to see
LT – Henderson
LG – Gallery
C – Satele
RG – McQuistan
RT – Barnes
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Jhill: whats the deal with Paul McQuistan? he subbed for the injured Cornell Green and started the final 5 games in 2007 and played pretty well imo. Played better than Green anyways!
then at the start of last season the staff told him that he would be limited to the left side of the line only, as backup LT & LG behind Harris & Gallery … WHY? whose decision was that? Kiffins or Cables? When a guy starts at RT and plays well, don’t you think you should give him more opportunities there instead of tossing him to the other side? It’s not like Green was a stud or anything. I mean, come on! Who was challenging him? Mario Henderson wasn’t. James Marten never even sniffed the field last year. McQ & Mark Wilson got placed on IR before Week 1 of the regular season.
I’d like to see Henderson, Pears & Barnes battle at LT.
I’d like to see Green, Marten, Pears, Johnson, Wilson & McQuistan battle for that RT spot.
Gallery & Carlisle will start at guard (by default)
Satele (if healthy) will start at Center.
July 22nd, 2009 at 9:31 am
jhill and AZRaider you both are right.
Mix up the schemes dog!!!
July 22nd, 2009 at 9:31 am
i didnt think you felt the way you do.
I have that game on tapoe there were like 4 scores on the first 5 possesions no???? that game was awesome Barry first TD run was SICK!!!!!!
July 22nd, 2009 at 9:32 am
CLASSIC GAME OF RUNNINGBACKS:
(12-10-90) LA Raiders vs Detroit Lions – MNF – “The Bo Jackson and Barry Sanders show” – In an entertaining Monday Night
for post 289!!!!! LOl copy pasted wrong convo!!!
July 22nd, 2009 at 9:41 am
Bringing in another blocking TE will help Zach get off the line and a runnign game could open it up even more. For a QB that can only throw the ball 80 yards down the field he sure does find Zach a lot on drags and crossing routes.
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couldn’t agree more. Brandon Myers is a blocking TE. We drafted him to use more 2 TE sets and free up Zach Miller as a receiving option. 2 TE’s also provides better blocking than 3 WR sets, although it may be more predictable. If Myers becomes a complete TE and shows he also has capable hands we could be golden in this formation. We already know what Miller can do. BSPN even has Zach Miller as a Top 10 TE in the NFL and you know how much they love their Raiders! Question becomes what 2 WR’s will start? Will it be Heyward-Bey & Walker (when healthy), by virtue of highest paid? Will it be Higgins & Schilens to add to the chemistry they built late last season with Russell? Will it be Louis Murphy, the underdog who impressed Cris Carter & Jerry Rice? It may come down to whoever is healthy! The only problem with that is it hurts team chemistry and sometimes you want to leave the hot players in, to see if they can stay hot. Cable doesn’t allow players to lose their starting jobs by injury, even if they get outplayed by their backups. Thats called a scholarship in my book and let’s hope Justin Fargas & Cornell Green aren’t still on one. Hiram Eugene or Gerard Warren either for that matter!
July 22nd, 2009 at 9:44 am
I hear RRS …
I like McQ at RG over Cooper b/c he is younger and more powerful. If he can play well at RT, he should be pretty darn good at RG.
I think Henderson is the LT, for better or worse.
Barnes and Pears can battle it out for RT.
I’m out for a while, catch you guys later.
July 22nd, 2009 at 9:46 am
STATELINE, Nev. — Mike Shanahan said Friday that he plans to coach again in the NFL and that he had the opportunity to interview for head-coaching jobs for the 2009 season, but “it just didn’t feel right at the time.”
In preparation to coach again, Shanahan said he has spent the past few months staying sharp should the right opportunity present itself.
“I plan on getting back,” said Shanahan, who has a career win/loss record of 146-98. “I probably spent more time studying football the last offseason than I have the last 10 years. I watch a lot of film and do the same thing I do during the season. I’ll see if there are any opportunities out there at the end of the year that will work out for the club and myself.”
By Steve Wyche
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Shanny the Tranny will be back !!!
July 22nd, 2009 at 9:49 am
BSJ…
http://www.letour.fr/2009/TDF/LIVE/us/1700/journal_etape.html#zone135309
“We don’t have so many chances on this Tour but the ones that we have, we take. Yesterday after the stage, I was really down because of the crash of Jens (Voigt) but hopefully we could cheer him up a little with what we did in the stage today. Everything worked out as we planned it.
“Now we have the time trial, so everybody will be on his own. Then we go up Mont Ventoux and it’s true that Contador is really strong… but we saw today that we were able to isolate him and on the Ventoux we might see the same thing. We’ll wait and see but a win there would be fantastic.
“There comes a time when we all get a little bit tired. It could be the same for Contador. I would never say that he’s insecure but perhaps he’s a little bit nervous; he has ridden now with two Schlecks around him and – bang, bang! From the left and right we attacked him… but it was also a good operation by him today.”
July 22nd, 2009 at 9:54 am
RRS…
it could be funny if a journalist lured shanny to say something negative about the broncos, he then would lose the last 7mill that they owe him =)
July 22nd, 2009 at 9:54 am
NO one better be after Southwick!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
This could be a good move for Losman tho!!!
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Wow. Losman to the UFL, huh?
I’m sure the UFL is hot after Danny Southwick, but he’s the best QB on the Raiders roster and I think he knows that. He just chooses wisely not to state as much to the media (unlike Garcia). Southwick will let his play on the field speak for itself. The Raiders can’t afford to lose a player of his calibur. Southwick is an asset to the team. He’s not going anywhere!
July 22nd, 2009 at 9:57 am
it could be funny if a journalist lured shanny to say something negative about the broncos, he then would lose the last 7mill that they owe him
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it’d be funnier if Bowlen found a reason to fire him “for cause” and he didn’t get paid what they owe him
July 22nd, 2009 at 10:01 am
Ben Rothlisberger accused of Rape
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/22/sports/football/22roethlisberger.html?em
I don’t see all the self-righteous indignation from the Podunk County types this morning. Funny that.
July 22nd, 2009 at 10:01 am
Wow…Southwick. Cmon Southwick. Never heard of him…some NFL Europe -Raiders…Cmon…best QB…
July 22nd, 2009 at 10:02 am
When will spotlight Athletes stay outta trouble. Been that a car crash and a rape charge. Dude chill out on the offseason.
July 22nd, 2009 at 10:05 am
kk,
total BS! I’m sick of these broke breezies trying to get a hand out from athletes… It’s pathetic!
July 22nd, 2009 at 10:06 am
Do you think Big Ben, or Kobe for that matter have to force themselves on women?
I DON’T THINK SO TIM…
July 22nd, 2009 at 10:11 am
Edgerrin James is 123 yards behind Marcus Allen on the NFL’s all-time rushing charts.
He ranks 11th currently behind Allen (10th, 12,243 yards), Marshall Faulk (9th, 12,279 yards), Jim Brown (8th, 12,312 yards) and Tony Dorsett (7th, 12,739).
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Wow! after this season Marcus Allen will no longer be Top 10 on the all-time rushing chart. your thoughts?
July 22nd, 2009 at 10:13 am
Who did James sign with????? Has anyone picked him up?
July 22nd, 2009 at 10:13 am
Ben Rothlisberger accused of Rape
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/22/sports/football/22roethlisberger.html?em
I don’t see all the self-righteous indignation from the Podunk County types this morning. Funny that.
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RaiderRockstar???? we can usually count on you for your moralizing opinion, comment?
July 22nd, 2009 at 10:14 am
i think if davis would have let Allen play instead of having a vendetta agaist him, Allen would be #1 on the list and it wouldn’t be an issue. Good job Al, geez…
July 22nd, 2009 at 10:15 am
I don’t see all the self-righteous indignation from the Podunk County types this morning. Funny that.
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I’m sure everybody that lives in the midwest is considered “podunk” in your opinion. Kansas City, St Louis, Chicago, etc. For a guy that claims to be smart, you sure are a buffoon.
oh yeah, and a racist, hypocrit and coward … don’t talk to me. I’d talk have a convo with quality people
July 22nd, 2009 at 10:17 am
I’d rather have a convo … excuse me
typo!
July 22nd, 2009 at 10:17 am
RaiderRockstar
You had plenty of moralizing sermons when Steve McNair got killed. No comments on Big Ben’s behavior?????? hummmmmm.
July 22nd, 2009 at 10:18 am
Could Fargas get squeezed out of Oakland?
Posted by Gregg Rosenthal on July 22, 2009 1:10 PM ET
Justin Fargas always runs like a man possessed, never worried about taking a big hit.
For that reason, he’s been a favorite in Oakland, especially the last three seasons as a starter.
But Fargas’ run as a starter appears to be ending with Darren McFadden’s emergence, and the Oakland Tribune hints that Fargas could run right off the team.
The Raiders have three quality backs in McFadden, Fargas, and Michael Bush. Jerry McDonald writes that, “Fargas will at some point be de-emphasized in favor of Bush. It’s just a matter of when.”
Bush broke out last season in Week 17 with 177 yards, a performance that sent Jon Gruden to ESPN and likely warmed Al Davis’ heart. He could give Oakland some power near the goal line that the team has lacked.
If the youngsters stay healthy in training camp (which hasn’t been easy for them), Fargas could conceivably drop below Bush on the depth chart. He would be due $3.5 million as a third-stringer.
At that point, the Raiders could potentially ask Fargas to take a pay cut or take off.
While the Raiders would take a cap hit to release him, they would save real dollars in the transaction.
No matter what happens, this is the sort of good problem the Raiders haven’t often had in recent years. Any step forward in the standings will likely be lead by their running game, which has quietly produced impressive numbers ever since Tom Cable showed up in 2007.
July 22nd, 2009 at 10:18 am
La Milicia Negra Says:
July 22nd, 2009 at 9:49 am
BSJ…
http://www.letour.fr/2009/TDF/LIVE/us/1700/journal_etape.html#zone135309
“We don’t have so many chances on this Tour but the ones that we have, we take. Yesterday after the stage, I was really down because of the crash of Jens (Voigt) but hopefully we could cheer him up a little with what we did in the stage today. Everything worked out as we planned it.
“Now we have the time trial, so everybody will be on his own. Then we go up Mont Ventoux and it’s true that Contador is really strong… but we saw today that we were able to isolate him and on the Ventoux we might see the same thing. We’ll wait and see but a win there would be fantastic.
“There comes a time when we all get a little bit tired. It could be the same for Contador. I would never say that he’s insecure but perhaps he’s a little bit nervous; he has ridden now with two Schlecks around him and – bang, bang! From the left and right we attacked him… but it was also a good operation by him today.”
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Sorry, by personal request my IT staff blocks all URLs with the suffix “.fr”.
July 22nd, 2009 at 10:19 am
Opps, From PFT
July 22nd, 2009 at 10:20 am
Who did James sign with????? Has anyone picked him up?
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nobody yet, but I’m sure somebody will. He might rush for 125 yards in one game. Teams might be waiting to find out if players on their roster are duds in training camp. camp always produces injuries too
Even in a complimentary role or 3rd string RB role, 125 yards is only 8 yards per game
July 22nd, 2009 at 10:22 am
LMN, I gather you were referring to the bicycle festival the frogs are having. No interest here, although your buddy Copenhagen Fan may find that treacle worth discussing.
As for me, I would rather eat mushed duck liver.
July 22nd, 2009 at 10:27 am
Wow. Jerry must feel pretty powerful. All he did was speculate about the future of Fargas, and PFT really…err…took the ball and ran with it.
July 22nd, 2009 at 10:29 am
Q: Who is better overall, Justin Fargas Or Dmac
A: I can’t call it as to who is better but all I have heard this offseason is how McFadden has been spectacular. Based on that, I think McFadden will get the majority of touches, including in the passing game. Michael Bush also will be a factor out of the backfield.
Steve Wyche, NFL.com
July 22nd, 2009 at 10:30 am
KoolKell Says:
July 22nd, 2009 at 10:01 am
Ben Rothlisberger accused of Rape
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/22/sports/football/22roethlisberger.html?em
I don’t see all the self-righteous indignation from the Podunk County types this morning. Funny that.
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Splain? Are you implying that you believe Raider fans who do not live in an urban hellhole would react to this story in a certain way? Isn’t that prejudice, KK?
Perhaps I can help you out a bit, as you appear to be begging us to provoke you and reinforce your bigotry:
Rothlisberger? No way he touched her! Don’t they realize he’s white? His name ain’t LeDonte Washington is it?!
July 22nd, 2009 at 10:31 am
Q: DO YOU THINK KIRK MORRISON FROM THE RAIDERS HAS THE POTENTIAL OF BEING THE BEST LB IN THE LEAGUE?
A: Zimmy, Morrison is a stud. Unfortunately for him, he won’t get the credit he deserves because he plays on losing team. Opposing players tell me that he is good, but guys like Patrick Willis, Ray Lewis, Jon Beason, Bradie James and others tend to get more love.
Steve Wyche, NFL.com
July 22nd, 2009 at 10:36 am
# Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
July 22nd, 2009 at 10:22 am
LMN, I gather you were referring to the bicycle festival the frogs are having. No interest here, although your buddy Copenhagen Fan may find that treacle worth discussing.
As for me, I would rather eat mushed duck liver.
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well you brought it up a few days ago, that you were so proud that there were 4 americans in the top 10, my response, they havent hit the mountains yet, then Saxobank would be in top 5….
July 22nd, 2009 at 10:36 am
Punch that lying broke h00ker in the ovary!
July 22nd, 2009 at 10:40 am
RR,
post the whole interview if they are talking Raiders
July 22nd, 2009 at 10:41 am
LOL @ AZ & BSJ …
there ya go Kell. there is the spirited responses you were looking for!
I’m sure my opinion can’t be THAT important to you
July 22nd, 2009 at 10:43 am
deserves because he plays on losing team. Opposing players tell me that he is good, but guys like Patrick Willis,………………..
Isnt willis on a LOSING team as well????
July 22nd, 2009 at 10:43 am
post the whole interview if they are talking Raiders
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yes sir boss man! it was a Q & A session about the NFL in general AZ. I posted the only 2 items regarding the Raiders …
July 22nd, 2009 at 10:46 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
July 7th, 2009 at 2:06 pm
having no Honor and bashing a dead man, when we all make mistakes
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bashing a dead man? he cheated on his wife. that makes him a scumbag. thats the truth, thats not “bashing”
McNair had no honor.
it’s not considered a mistake if you plan it ahead of time either ….
so say your wife waits until you leave for work and invites the mailman in for some “fun”. is that considered a mistake? would that be easy to brush off your shoulder? put yourself in his wife or kids sho3s man. he was going to leave his family and marry this crazy 20 yr old chick
July 22nd, 2009 at 10:46 am
If they cut fargas should I just use my real name Louis Rankin?
July 22nd, 2009 at 10:47 am
Repost:
RaiderRockstar
You had plenty of moralizing sermons when Steve McNair got killed. No comments on Big Ben’s behavior?????? hummmmmm.
July 22nd, 2009 at 10:49 am
His surname “Roethlisberger” (Swiss-German spelling: Röthlisberger) is of Swiss origin with roots in the village of Geissbuehl Lauperswil, Switzerland. He is a spokesman for Swiss Roots, a campaign intended to help Americans of Swiss origin reconnect with their Swiss ancestral heritage. In May 2006, Roethlisberger and his family traveled to Switzerland for a week.
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Kell: I’m sure your wife thinks he’s innocent!
July 22nd, 2009 at 10:52 am
She’s heard of him, but I’m asking for your comments.
July 22nd, 2009 at 10:53 am
Just making a point. Later.
July 22nd, 2009 at 10:53 am
I’m asking for your comments
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Why? if I wanted to comment on the situation I would have …
July 22nd, 2009 at 10:54 am
Later norbit.
July 22nd, 2009 at 11:00 am
Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
July 22nd, 2009 at 7:02 am
Oakglenn Says:
July 21st, 2009 at 6:50 pm
The F-35 was a failed aircraft that required 30 hours of maintenance for every couple of minutes in was in the air. It was too expensive to continue to deploy, and ridiculous to order more of them. Both Obama and McCain agreed on that. One of the rare things they both agreed on. Right now, the US spends more on military than the next 7 nations COMBINED.
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You must mean the F-22, not the F-35 since the Govt is buying/building 2,400 of the F-35s?????
July 22nd, 2009 at 11:01 am
I can’t believe that she is still working at Harrah’s. Wonder if she has gotten any performance or merit bonus’s lately. LOL
July 22nd, 2009 at 11:02 am
good day Exla, Dakota …
July 22nd, 2009 at 11:08 am
exlaraiderticket, you’re an idiot.
July 22nd, 2009 at 11:08 am
KK,
Why would anyone condemn Ben Roethlisburegervillestein right now? He hasn’t even been charged with a crime which is the number one way to tell that his accuser’s civil case is BS. As soon as we have a reason, we will jump on him, but there isn’t one yet.
July 22nd, 2009 at 11:09 am
Some of you dog on the Raiders O-Line but I don’t think its all that bad. Some dog on JR but look at what he was able to do against the Bucs Defense. Also consider the O-Line had ALOT to do with how well JR played and how well Bush ran the ball. Now if Fargas was in charge of running the ball behind that line…you probably would have had more of a negative result in my opinion but this line was a big reason we won that game so theres plenty of promise to look at and we’ve only added more quality depth if anything.
Henderson “should” start at LT. I don’t give a fuk what Barnes did with someone else, Henderson deserves to prove it until he messes up and if he does, give it to Barnes.
Gallery has been nothing but solid.
Satele is an upgrade over Grove because he fits our system better, hes younger AND he should be more durable than Grove ever was.
Carlisle is a good player and has been as consistent as Gallery and probably has alot to do with the turnaround of Gallery as a mentor to him. Carlisle was one of 2 guys that came from a cut blocking system and was responsible for helping everyone around him and hes been nothing but solid. I don’t understand why anybody would bag on him or think that McQuistan could step in for him. McQuistan has had plenty of time to take a starting position and he hasn’t.
Barnes “should” be a nice fit for the RT position unless Pears is even better but if this guy was worth anything as a LT, he should be even better as a RT and maybe our best since Lincoln Kennedy if he can make the adjustment. Either way, our depth is much more improved over last year and we finished strong against the Bucs.
July 22nd, 2009 at 11:11 am
Dakota – What is your take on the NBA signings of Shaq to the Cavaliers, Wallace to the Celtics and Artest to the Lakers?
July 22nd, 2009 at 11:11 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
July 22nd, 2009 at 10:49 am
His surname “Roethlisberger” (Swiss-German spelling: Röthlisberger) is of Swiss origin with roots in the village of Geissbuehl Lauperswil, Switzerland. He is a spokesman for Swiss Roots, a campaign intended to help Americans of Swiss origin reconnect with their Swiss ancestral heritage. In May 2006, Roethlisberger and his family traveled to Switzerland for a week.
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Wow.. File that under Whoooooooooo cares?!?
You guys won’t hear one word of a black or Latino bringing their race and heritage into any argument, but we’ve got to hear about Big Ben’s relatives in the Alps and his Swiss activism? Give me a pillow.
July 22nd, 2009 at 11:14 am
Dakota, a civil case is only merited if there’s a criminal case? Ben R. is a celebrity, who’s rich. It’s very difficult to….oh, wait, you’re from Dakota. There’s no point in it.
July 22nd, 2009 at 11:16 am
Kell, you’re being way too harsh on McNair. How do you know he and his wife weren’t having problems? So what if his gf was 20? Last I checked, the age of consent is 18. Sounds like haterism, to me.
July 22nd, 2009 at 11:18 am
24,
Shaq to Clev was a chance worth taking for the cavs IMO. I doubt it will work, but they had to try something to impress LBJ. I think Shaq will take away many of James’ drives to the hoop, whereas Ilgaskus was able to clear the lane by taking his man away from the hoop with his ability to hit open jump shots.
I love Wallace to the C’s…actually, as a Lakers’ fan I hate it…that guy torches us. But I am wondering what they plan on doing with him when Garnett plays…play KG or Wallace at C? That will not work against Clev, Orland or the Lakers.
Artest to the Lakers won’t mean a thing unless we re-sign LO. If LO is back, and Artest plays like he did last season, the Lakers will be very hard to beat…as long as Artest doesn’t break down the triangle with selfish isolations and drives we should be fine. If he can be content in hitting open jumpers and locking down the opposition’s best perimeter players, we might be great.
July 22nd, 2009 at 11:22 am
The deal on McNair is that he was going to divorce his wife as he told her he would. So she knew about the pending divorce but she didnt know about the girl. McNair country boy self just didnt know how to be a playa and with a 20 year old he must of though he was a rookie in the league. But he wasnt a player outside of the NFL or he would still be alive today.
July 22nd, 2009 at 11:24 am
New post!
July 22nd, 2009 at 11:30 am
dhitz, listen to you. We won’t know rather or not you would do the same thing as McNair until we see a 20 year old hottie throw herself at you. You and I both know that hasn’t happened in a looooong time, or perhaps it never has happened.
July 22nd, 2009 at 12:11 pm
A buddy told me a long time ago. The way you keep your self out of situations like McNair was in is do not put yourself in compromising situations. It was not the lust of a crazy 20 year old chick that killed him. He put himself in a very compromising situation. He was one on one with her, drunk and a sleep on her couch. That would have been a good night for him to home to his mansion have pizza with his kids watch a movie and go to bad. Being at home is not that bad crew. It saved me a life full of troubles many times. If your wife is getting on your nerves go for a walk, go to bed or spend time with your wonderful children. In McNairs case he could have went on the other side of his mansion. Not to mention his wife had his children and the woman looks pretty good herself.
He had a choice, he knew the price and sadly it cost him his life.
RIP McNair!
July 22nd, 2009 at 12:13 pm
Ouch typos like crazy but you get the message!
July 22nd, 2009 at 12:40 pm
Madden Raider…No doubt…Im Married. However Im not old looking but will tell you str8 up….NOPE…not 20….20 dont know shigg…and she wasnt all that hot.
July 22nd, 2009 at 12:42 pm
CJ Legend. I totally dig that. Take it home but not some crazy 20 year old Iranian chic,…(my bad Iranian folks I have no hate) But when I saw that I was like whoa!!!
July 22nd, 2009 at 1:36 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
July 22nd, 2009 at 11:16 am
Kell, you’re being way too harsh on McNair. How do you know he and his wife weren’t having problems? So what if his gf was 20? Last I checked, the age of consent is 18. Sounds like haterism, to me.
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Exactly, but you misread the post. That statement was by Rockstar.
July 24th, 2009 at 3:18 am
24
love nnamdi alot more than i do Woodson.but your claim is false.Infact woodson has to be the only corner in the league that has Moss’s number.back track every game Woodson played against Moss in the silver and black and you will find that woodson had his way with him.the only time Moss ever made Wood look bad was in a preseason game.nnamdi is cut in the same mold,but nnamdi stays healthy and nnamdi plays for the team he wants to play for
July 27th, 2009 at 2:34 pm
Dear Jamarcus Russell,
In a year where all the TV analysts are saying this is your make or break season I disagree. Typically the rule is 3 years before the “bust” tag can be applied and your first year didn’t count because of the hold-out. That contract is done, feed and house your family well and give us fan-family what we deserve; A Super Bowl!! Not this year, no pressure but in time? Yes, I believe in you.
So as a big fan of yours and an active member of the Raider Nation I have to ask you: ARE YOU READY? Are you ready to quiet the critics? Are you ready to handle the media? And most important are you ready to be the LEADER of the Oakland Raiders for the next 15 seasons? In the huddle, in the locker room, off and on the field, down by 7 with 1:32 in the 4th? ARE YOU READY?
Your skill is a gift, a god-given gift that was given to you for the purpose of winning and entertaining. And you ARE a RAIDER, so let’s do this huh? I don’t know yet if they gave you that right tools to be a true passer with DHB. Khalif Barnes etc..but only time will tell. And Garcia? They just put him there to light your fire. That’s all. You are the starter for now, but listen to Jeff because he has been around the block a few times seeing that he is 39 years old and all. But also know this, you are 24 years old right? You have your whole life ahead of you, don’t you want to go to the hall of fame some day? I think it’s possible but you need to apply yourself as a leader NOW! That’s where it starts.
While critics say what they say about you, they rarely mention the positive. Never have a seen you blame your WR’s or your O-line men, or slag off your team mates in the media (think Ryan Leaf), You seem to be accountable on the field. Never mind the big arm, that’s just something you already have. You were born to do this.
This season understand this; our defense against ranks worst against the run, and this will not allow you much time to even be on the field as teams will again know to simply eat up the clock on the Raiders by running the ball over and over. This was not addressed in the off season. The schedule is also VERY difficult. This means that 2-6 by mid-season is very possible. But it won’t be your fault necessarily , the organization is to blame for not putting the right people in place. Garcia will come in, he’ll win a couple games and the analysts will go crazy. Warren Sapp will be beaming with arrogance (even though he praised you a few months ago, what’s wrong with that dude?), and people will say “I told you so” BUT they will be wrong. I know there is greatness in you, I know you are pro-bowl material, and I know you can take US to the Super Bowl.
So go into this season as the leader of the Oakland Raiders, hold your head up high, get the team to play for you and gather around you and respect you as a LEADER!!
-A true fan
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