Camp analysis: Tight ends
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Wednesday, July 22nd, 2009 at 11:16 am in Oakland Raiders.
Third in a series of posts analyzing Raiders’ position groups with players scheduled to report to Napa in six days.
Projected starter: Zach Miller. Backups: Brandon Myers, Darrell Strong, John Paul Foschi, Tony Stewart.
No mysteries here. Miller had sports hernia surgery in the offseason and appears to have recovered nicely and should be full-go. With 56 receptions for 778 yards and a respectable 13.9 yards per catch average, Miller became the first Raiders tight end since Ethan Horton in 1991 to catch 50 or more passes in a season.
Coach Tom Cable believes Miller’s stats can be better with the right tight end to “marry up” (Cable’s words, not mine) with him. Hence the selection of Brandon Myers out of Iowa, who in theory can be the block-and-release player in two tight-end sets while Miller does what he does best _ find open areas in the middle of the field.
It could also help Miller be more of a threat in the red zone, where the one receiver JaMarcus Russell truly trusts drops off in terms of production. Of Miller’s 100 receptions in two years, only four have been four touchdowns _ just one last season.
Strong’s strong training camp showing won him a spot on the practice squad and a late promotion to the 53-man roster. Foschi can play either fullback or tight end but will be hardpressed to make the final 53.
The key battle: Myers vs. Stewart. Myers is already under contract, according to his agent (no confirmation from the Raiders, of course), and when contact drills begin will be able to show off the blocking skills which make him a good match for Miller in two tight-end sets. Stewart is a steady veteran, the team’s player rep, and in Miller’s absence showed a good pair of hands during the mandatory minicamp and OTAs. The Raiders would love to see Myers assert himself as the second tight end, but Stewart won’t be moved easily.
What I think: With the wide receiver position sorting itself out, Miller will remain Russell’s most reliable receiver as well as a strong secondary option. When Miller signed his contract, the Raiders were a running joke among agents and front-office types because they paid him about a million more than they needed to, considering what players were paid in front of him and behind him in the draft order. Maybe they did, but turns out it was money well spent.
What could go wrong: Injuries, of course. There isn’t a tight end on the roster with Miller’s knack for getting open over the middle or with his potential to be a big part of the offense.
The Robbins interview
Caught Barret Robbins’ interview with Andrea Kremer on Real Sports Tuesday night, and it was very similar to the interview Kremer landed for ESPN the last time the former center was in recovery.
Robbins has stood up and taken responsibility before, only to slip right back into the cycle of manic depression and substance abuse that nearly killed him. You pull for him because when of right mind he seems to have a good heart. But the only proof will be when days and years pass, with Robbins staying the course and regaining a relationship with his family.
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July 22nd, 2009 at 11:18 am
Man very thin after miller , need a solid blocking backup TE.
July 22nd, 2009 at 11:24 am
Dakota -
I think Shaq is done personally. I think he’ll miss too much playing time due to injuries and teams will just continue to put him on the foul line at the end of games. If Shaq was able to get out of Kobe’s way for 3 years, shouldn’t he be able to do it for LeBron?
I was just thinking…Wallace, Allen, Garnett and Pierce really round out the starting lineup quite well. I don’t know how good their 5th guy is but thats a good lineup no?
Artest kind of reminds me of Rodman. Agree or disagree?
July 22nd, 2009 at 11:25 am
So, Barret Robbins caught his wife with another Raider a couple of days before the Superbowl, eh? That may have been what set him off. Does anybody here know who it was? And, don’t say Run Run Jones…
July 22nd, 2009 at 11:25 am
Some of you dog on the Raiders O-Line but I don’t think its all that bad. Some dog on JR but look at what he was able to do against the Bucs Defense. Also consider the O-Line had ALOT to do with how well JR played and how well Bush ran the ball. Now if Fargas was in charge of running the ball behind that line…you probably would have had more of a negative result in my opinion but this line was a big reason we won that game so theres plenty of promise to look at and we’ve only added more quality depth if anything.
Henderson “should” start at LT. I don’t give a fuk what Barnes did with someone else, Henderson deserves to prove it until he messes up and if he does, give it to Barnes.
Gallery has been nothing but solid.
Satele is an upgrade over Grove because he fits our system better, hes younger AND he should be more durable than Grove ever was.
Carlisle is a good player and has been as consistent as Gallery and probably has alot to do with the turnaround of Gallery as a mentor to him. Carlisle was one of 2 guys that came from a cut blocking system and was responsible for helping everyone around him and hes been nothing but solid. I don’t understand why anybody would bag on him or think that McQuistan could step in for him. McQuistan has had plenty of time to take a starting position and he hasn’t.
Barnes “should” be a nice fit for the RT position unless Pears is even better but if this guy was worth anything as a LT, he should be even better as a RT and maybe our best since Lincoln Kennedy if he can make the adjustment. Either way, our depth is much more improved over last year and we finished strong against the Bucs.
July 22nd, 2009 at 11:26 am
24,
Shaq to Clev was a chance worth taking for the cavs IMO. I doubt it will work, but they had to try something to impress LBJ. I think Shaq will take away many of James’ drives to the hoop, whereas Ilgaskus was able to clear the lane by taking his man away from the hoop with his ability to hit open jump shots.
I love Wallace to the C’s…actually, as a Lakers’ fan I hate it…that guy torches us. But I am wondering what they plan on doing with him when Garnett plays…play KG or Wallace at C? That will not work against Clev, Orland or the Lakers.
Artest to the Lakers won’t mean a thing unless we re-sign LO. If LO is back, and Artest plays like he did last season, the Lakers will be very hard to beat…as long as Artest doesn’t break down the triangle with selfish isolations and drives we should be fine. If he can be content in hitting open jumpers and locking down the opposition’s best perimeter players, we might be great.
July 22nd, 2009 at 11:29 am
24, I don’t know, this old Shaq was unable to get out of the Canadian’s way with the Suns, so I assume his fat azz will be clogging up Lebron’s lanes to the hoop too.
Yes the C’s look good….I hate them.
Rodman I think was more of a showman than Artest…Artest is actually crazy…
July 22nd, 2009 at 11:39 am
—”Rams acquired WR Ronald Curry from the Lions in exchange for DT Orien Harris. Curry immediately becomes a serious candidate to start opposite Donnie Avery. Curry’s competition is Keenan Burton, who the Rams may have soured on after a lost spring due to hamstring woes, and speedster Laurent Robinson. Assuming he’s over his drop-filled 2008 season, Curry profiles well into new coordinator Pat Shurmur’s West Coast offense as a heady wideout with a nice frame (6′2/210) and the ability to play all three receiver positions. Both players here were on the roster bubble with their old clubs.”—
July 22nd, 2009 at 11:39 am
BALLER HATING BEEZIES UNITE!
PUNCH ‘EM IN THE OVARIES!!!! LIARS!
LEAVE THE ATHLETES ALONE AND EARN YOUR OWN MONEY!
July 22nd, 2009 at 11:41 am
Did you guys see dhitz on the previous thread criticizing McNair for hooking up with a 20 year old woman? As if dhitz would reject a 20 year old hottie throwing herself at him. Of course, it’s never happened, so he wouldn’t know anyway.
July 22nd, 2009 at 11:41 am
Satele is an upgrade over Grove because he fits our system better, hes younger AND he should be more durable than Grove ever was.
Barnes “should” be a nice fit for the RT position unless Pears is even better but if this guy was worth anything as a LT, he should be even better as a RT and maybe our best since Lincoln Kennedy if he can make the adjustment.
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24: thats nothing but Kool-Aid man!
has Satele ever played in a zone blocking system? He was traded for a 6th round pick and Grove got signed by a playoff team and is being paid like one of the top Centers in the league. Tom Cable was outspoken about wanting to keep him. Grove was healthy and active in Miami OTA’s, while Satele sat out 3/4 of ours nursing a shoulder injury.
Barnes hasn’t played RT since college and even then it was sparingly. He hasn’t worked as RT at all in OTA’s and Henderson got all the reps with the starting unit. He played like Kwame Harris version 2.0 as LT in Jax last year. Pears got replaced in the Denver starting lineup BEFORE his appendectamy last year. See how much improved their o-line was in 2008? No reason to think that being out of football a year due to injury/surgery is going to make him a better player …
Cooper Carlisle is a stopgap and he have no capable replacement. He tested the waters and nobody wanted him, so he returned to Oakland and signed his lowball offer.
Henderson started what? 5 games last year? Zach Miller was forced to stay in and help him block. The knock on him is run blocking because he’s not physical or aggressive enough. We’ll see how that pans out. Cable wisely said that Henderson will “compete” for the LT job. It’s not going to be given to him based on spectatular play from last year, despite what some other Raider fans will tell you. No coaches or analysts are saying that about “Super” Mario
July 22nd, 2009 at 11:42 am
AZ Raider, you’ve got real issues, man.
July 22nd, 2009 at 11:44 am
LMN: Ron Curry couldn’t even stick with the Lions!
LOL
I predicted this 2 weeks ago …
MR, who is always right with predictions? remember the game against Tampa Bay? you owe me $20!
July 22nd, 2009 at 11:46 am
MR,
I’m just sick of these broke breezies targeting pro athletes… Do you really think Big Ben, or Kobe Bryant really have to force themselves on women?
I don’t (sorry repost I know). It’s just disgusting. Does Ben seem like that kind of character? It’s BS, it has to be…
But ya, I got issues too
July 22nd, 2009 at 11:47 am
My only problem with McNair and a 20 yr old is the fact that she wasn’t that hot.
July 22nd, 2009 at 11:47 am
Shaq’s going to get hurt anyway. Celtics are back next year. You heard it here. I’m never wrong, and you guys know it. I’m telling you right now the Celtics are winning it next year. Lakers will choke in second round. Losing Ariza will hurt them. They made a glamour move by dropping him for Artest. When you win a championship, you water the plant. You don’t pull one part of the plant out and patch it with part of another. Ariza was not some irrelevant 11th man. Phil has lost control and that Kupchak is a runaway train. Phil wants Artest like he wants a hole in his head. It’s over, Lake Show.
July 22nd, 2009 at 11:48 am
She was that hot, Ottocrat. You’re just saying that because she was middle eastern and you’re a racist redneck. But trust me, to those of us living in the 21st century, she was hot.
July 22nd, 2009 at 11:48 am
AZ, “broke beezies”? Listen to yourself. Get help. Seriously.
July 22nd, 2009 at 11:54 am
Later, broke breeezies. That’s what I’m going to call the Davis worshipers from here on out. Broke breeezies. Ha ha.
July 22nd, 2009 at 12:00 pm
Thanks for stopping by Mr! We enjoy your wisdom!
July 22nd, 2009 at 12:02 pm
Dude, you think Steve McNair is that hot…
July 22nd, 2009 at 12:02 pm
She certainly wasn’t hot enough to die for, Right Steve?
July 22nd, 2009 at 12:04 pm
The key battle: Myers vs. Stewart. Myers is already under contract, according to his agent (no confirmation from the Raiders, of course), and when contact drills begin will be able to show off the blocking skills which make him a good match for Miller in two tight-end sets. Stewart is a steady veteran, the team’s player rep, and in Miller’s absence showed a good pair of hands during the mandatory minicamp and OTAs. The Raiders would love to see Myers assert himself as the second tight end, but Stewart won’t be moved easily.
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well said Jerry! Cable & Davis told Chris O’Neill that we’re only keeping 2 TE’s on the active roster …
If Tony Stewart beats out Myers, we’re probably going to cut another 6th round draft pick – one that we traded up to get!
If Zach miller gets injured we won’t be forced to resign Ben Troupe or Fred Wakefield. We’ll probably give somebody like Darrell Strong, Chris O’Neill or Marcel Reece a shot. none of these guys will be in demand as FA’s after getting cut following training camp
July 22nd, 2009 at 12:07 pm
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July 22nd, 2009 at 12:23 pm
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July 22nd, 2009 at 12:25 pm
Dakota! Classic! Great post! LOL!
They should give these devices away at the Rookie Orientation in Canton LOL…
July 22nd, 2009 at 12:30 pm
Dakota, post 24 is awesome!! Good job bro… LMFAO
July 22nd, 2009 at 12:31 pm
Stewart is a veteran leader, but he seems like kind of a stiff. Reece is an intriguing athlete. I’ve been calling for the Raiders to get a kick-azz blocking TE for a while. Hopefully Myers is that guy.
July 22nd, 2009 at 12:33 pm
What’s up nation?
I said Miller will get more ctaches, and he will make the PB.
Miller to the PB!
July 22nd, 2009 at 12:35 pm
Anti Rape Tape!!!
Bushmaster 5000!!!
LMAO
Is that what they teach you at the agency??!! Sales!!!!
July 22nd, 2009 at 12:35 pm
O,
scroll up and get a laugh outta Dakota’s post #24.
L M F A O!!!!
July 22nd, 2009 at 12:38 pm
New found repect for ya Dakota, I’ll be passing that on LOL.
July 22nd, 2009 at 12:39 pm
Dakota,
Still LMAO
July 22nd, 2009 at 12:42 pm
Billy Mays here for the Anti-Rape Tape!
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RIP Billy Mays.
I wonder who the new spokeman is for the Anti-R@pe Tape?
the sham-wow guy ???
July 22nd, 2009 at 12:46 pm
Ottocrat, #14…LOL!
July 22nd, 2009 at 12:46 pm
Yes, RIP Billy Mays…I watched a few episodes of Pitchmen this year…he seemed like a pretty nice guy.
July 22nd, 2009 at 12:47 pm
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July 22nd, 2009 at 12:07 pm
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July 22nd, 2009 at 12:50 pm
POST 24!!!!
Congrats on the posof the DAY!!!!!!!!!!!!
Reminds my of two things one is a Chapple show Episode the home stenogapher(sp) and a xzibit song
” Im making a hoe sign a contract b4 I hit it”
LOL
RIP Billy Mays
July 22nd, 2009 at 12:51 pm
Oaklifer, i wouldn’t go there… i clicked on that once and, well… its just too embarrassing to say, but STAY AWAY! JUST IGNORE IT!!! FOR THE LOVE OF GOD MAN, STAY AWAY FROM THAT!!!
July 22nd, 2009 at 12:51 pm
*** that POST of the day!!!
July 22nd, 2009 at 12:52 pm
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July 22nd, 2009 at 12:53 pm
Wow now im Scared!!!!!!!!!!!! there will be no clicking for me!!!!!!!1
July 22nd, 2009 at 12:53 pm
LOL
July 22nd, 2009 at 12:55 pm
LMN she was hot!!!!!!
FREE OLGA
send her my way I could use a ass whoopin!!!LOL
July 22nd, 2009 at 12:57 pm
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=jc-nonsuperbowlteam072209&prov=yhoo&type=lgns
July 22nd, 2009 at 1:06 pm
Oaklifer..
LOL
July 22nd, 2009 at 1:09 pm
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=breezies
AZ Raider Says:
July 22nd, 2009 at 11:46 am
MR,
I’m just sick of these broke breezies targeting pro athletes… Do you really think Big Ben, or Kobe Bryant really have to force themselves on women?
I don’t (sorry repost I know). It’s just disgusting. Does Ben seem like that kind of character? It’s BS, it has to be…
But ya, I got issues too
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AZ, thanks for a new word to call Tramp.
July 22nd, 2009 at 1:09 pm
hmm..
a soccer player here in DK, in training match, tried to jump up an head the ball, surrounded by 4 other players, when lightning literary hit him, knocked the 4 others down, he is apparently still in coma…
July 22nd, 2009 at 1:11 pm
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/soccer/wires/07/20/2020.ap.soc.denmark.lightning.0094/index.html
July 22nd, 2009 at 1:13 pm
Dang, I hope we are not gonna start with fuuutboooll now
July 22nd, 2009 at 1:15 pm
I actually love Miller he gets open and he has good hands to go with decent speed. Marginal blocker but thats not what we need. Thats why our WR production is so necessary. Its going to fuel the whole team. We can run no doubt. But paltry 100-150 passing yards isnt scaring anybody. We need to make sure our pass game is on point. JRuss will lead us there.
July 22nd, 2009 at 1:16 pm
AZ: I’d rather read LMN posts about soccer than other people’s posts about Al Davis vs Jon Gruden, Lane Kiffin, Ron Wolf and our record over the past 40 years!
July 22nd, 2009 at 1:18 pm
RR,
What about Danny Southwick? ehhhhh, yeah, your right…
July 22nd, 2009 at 1:20 pm
Marginal blocker but thats not what we need.
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71,
what? Zach Miller is an awesome blocker!
July 22nd, 2009 at 1:22 pm
What about Danny Southwick?
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his mom married Larry King!
July 22nd, 2009 at 1:27 pm
Read Article: (blacksportsonline.com)
Respected blogger and CEO of BlackSportsOnline Robert Littal has posted a breaking news story that Lamar Odom will re-sign with the Lakers for 4 yeas and a cool $40 million.
“The change of heart came after Lamar reached out to Dr. Jerry Buss. The two of them had a close door meeting in Las Vegas yesterday where they were able to reach an agreement.”
Glad that’s finally over with. Now the Lakers can breathe a little easier knowing that is finally done. But boy is this next NBA season going to be a fun one!
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I HOPE THIS IS REAL!!!!!!! OOOOOOH YEAH BABY!
July 22nd, 2009 at 1:27 pm
RR,
What’s up bro?
I agree, Mller a a great blocker. That’s why we needed another blocking TE, Miller was the best we had last year. That’s why he had to stay with oline and block.
You get cable and hot water where you live, and do you have cars? lol
July 22nd, 2009 at 1:33 pm
Respected blogger………….
Dakota that could be me or you or Double R…….Come on!!!! LOL I hope its true brother!
July 22nd, 2009 at 1:35 pm
Zach Miller is a well rounded PB caliber TE. Been a while since we’ve had anyone even close. Only TE in the league I’d rather have (and only if I couldn’t have Miller), would be Jason Witten. Miller IMO is just as good but with a much cooler uniform.
July 22nd, 2009 at 1:36 pm
How is work OAK? Is there still good demand for art in this economy?
July 22nd, 2009 at 1:38 pm
AZ,
lol
I’ll take Gates!! Miller is my 2nd option.
July 22nd, 2009 at 1:38 pm
You get cable and hot water where you live, and do you have cars?
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hey there Raider O!
no man. here in Podunk, Egypt I have to walk 50 miles just to hook up my laptop. I get Wifi at the gas station. Cold swims in the irrigation ditch for me since 63, thats our version of a “shower”. TV’s and computers are for the rich. I stole them for my family. took one of the masters guards hunting and beat him with a club. got his keys to the village that way, you see? everyone here rides a bike or walks. we’re a starving tribe and the dictator of this region reminds me a lot of Kell on this blog!
July 22nd, 2009 at 1:40 pm
Ummmm O, that’s a sin in AZism…. Shhhhhh, I won’t tell anyone bro.
July 22nd, 2009 at 1:41 pm
AZ Raider Says:
July 22nd, 2009 at 1:18 pm
RR,
What about Danny Southwick? ehhhhh, yeah, your right…
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When Southwick reveals himself as football Jesus, you will be praying to us both.
July 22nd, 2009 at 1:42 pm
I get to watch Gates a lot due to living in SD, and the man is not a great blocker but can do everything else great. Natural hands, great speed, great size, and great leaping ability.
July 22nd, 2009 at 1:42 pm
Yes, I might be jumping at BS Oaklifer, lol…desperation!
July 22nd, 2009 at 1:43 pm
Gates = FART
T. Gonzalez = FART
Sorry, but that’s just the way it works. I’m the guy who puts LT at the bottom of my draft board for RB’s in fantasy football though LOL…
July 22nd, 2009 at 1:45 pm
RR,
LMAO
you need Freedom Fighters!! lol
July 22nd, 2009 at 1:54 pm
AZ: Bo knows!
July 22nd, 2009 at 1:54 pm
How is work OAK? Is there still good demand for art in this economy?
Yes siiir…. the rich get richer man its the way it goes!!!!
Yes, I might be jumping at BS Oaklifer, lol…desperation!
Nahhh that dude is weel respect in a few circles and has alot more info then we do!!! And for the record I want you to resign Odem..Imho you have to beat the best to be the best!!! and I think having Odem makes LA the best in the West….Untillfurther notice that is!! LOL
July 22nd, 2009 at 1:55 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
July 22nd, 2009 at 1:54 pm
AZ: Bo knows!
as well as the “shadow” they all know.
July 22nd, 2009 at 1:56 pm
Almost that time fellas one grind to the other!!!!
RAIDER ON!!!!!!
and remember
PLAYOFFBOUND!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
July 22nd, 2009 at 1:56 pm
Massa Bo to you Rockstar! Don’t let dem bosses catch you puttin Boss Bo’s name down like that!
July 22nd, 2009 at 1:57 pm
Nahhh that dude is weel respect in
******Nahhh that dude is well respected in******
Wow spell check come on !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11
July 22nd, 2009 at 1:57 pm
RAIDER ON!
July 22nd, 2009 at 1:58 pm
Massa Bo to you Rockstar! Don’t let dem bosses catch you puttin Boss Bo’s name down like that!
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i’m gonna go home and have my wife fix me some massa tatoes …
July 22nd, 2009 at 2:02 pm
That’s messed up Dakota.
I just don’t see why people are hellbent on givin some block head police officer a hard time and prolonging the whole drama. If some cop shows up at my door because some crazy neighbor called in a potential break in I’m gonna give up my ID and send him on his way, not antagonize the dude until I get taken out. If you keep poking at these guys eventually your going to be in the backseat of their car.
My buddy just got pulled over recently for speeding and instead of just keeping his mouth shut and taking his medicine we wound up sitting on the side of the highway for a half hour because the cop was tired of his crap!
July 22nd, 2009 at 2:04 pm
Later OAK, and I hope we all get richer.
July 22nd, 2009 at 2:07 pm
Saint McGiver,
People should no their limits!
Legalize it!
July 22nd, 2009 at 2:09 pm
*Know
No more bonging for me. lol
July 22nd, 2009 at 2:12 pm
Yeah, that’s the problem with Cops. If they don’t like ya, they can do whatever they want to you.
July 22nd, 2009 at 2:13 pm
You’re cut off O!
July 22nd, 2009 at 2:18 pm
SaintKaufman Says:
July 22nd, 2009 at 2:02 pm
That’s messed up Dakota.
I just don’t see why people are hellbent on givin some block head police officer a hard time and prolonging the whole drama. If some cop shows up at my door because some crazy neighbor called in a potential break in I’m gonna give up my ID and send him on his way, not antagonize the dude until I get taken out.
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Kaufman, Gates did give him his Harvard ID but the disbelieving cop insisted on calling the school to verify. Gates is one of the leading scholars on race in the US, and if he thinks the Boston cop couldn’t accept a black Harvard professor living in a nice neighborhood I am inclined to believe him.
Cops do not get a pass on fairness because they carry guns and chase bad guys, even though many cops will say otherwise.
July 22nd, 2009 at 2:19 pm
RR,
I lived in the mid west, and I know and understand why people move there.
I’m going to take it a step further, and move my family to Jordan when the time is right. I want land to farm, good work, and not be part of a sys that doesn’t care for me.
The days of Washington, Johnson, and others are gone. Cop America is in control, and I don’t like it. We stopped taking care of our people long time ago. our true pride as Americans is directed into race issues, and other issues to keep us from seeing the big pic.
They ate using us, and we are letting them. It’s time to take a stand and save Beautiful America. Land of the free.
July 22nd, 2009 at 2:21 pm
Home of the Brave!
July 22nd, 2009 at 2:22 pm
AZ Raider Says:
July 22nd, 2009 at 1:50 pm
BSJ,
You don’t have to! We already pray to massa Bo! Pray he bring down his might on us heads! Please Bo! Have mercy on us!
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LOL. Southwick is Football Jesus not Plantation Jesus. And I am just his humble apostle.
July 22nd, 2009 at 2:24 pm
RR,
Sorry bro. I’m just venting! lol
July 22nd, 2009 at 2:25 pm
Raider O: well said, post #86
Agreed!
July 22nd, 2009 at 2:26 pm
LOL. So Lamar Odom got exactly the $10 mil he wanted? This is a nice rotation:
Fisher/Farmar/Odom
Kobe/Sasha/Odom
Artest/Odom/Walton
Gasol/Odom/Powell
Bynum/Gasol/Odom
July 22nd, 2009 at 2:28 pm
Ok bosses, I’s sorry fo makins yous mad at po Az’s… I know dat massa be carin foe da not so cleva peoples. I’s watch what I says from nows ons.
July 22nd, 2009 at 2:28 pm
I just got my 3-pack. I usually get that, and buy single tix for a couple of other games. SD 9/14, REDSKINS 11/22, and BENGALS 12/15. God, I hope the last two will be meaningful games.
July 22nd, 2009 at 2:29 pm
Sorry, reverse the dates for DC and Cincy…
July 22nd, 2009 at 2:32 pm
post 86 – I want land to farm
Cop America is in control, and I don’t like it.
post 81 – Legalize it!
Raider O: hmmm … I wonder what you’ll be growing?
July 22nd, 2009 at 2:34 pm
I can see you now, O …
honey, I’ll be out in the barn!
wife: why? the horses are fine ..
O: gotta go “harvest the crops”
LOL
July 22nd, 2009 at 2:53 pm
has Big Ben made ESPN yet ???
July 22nd, 2009 at 2:54 pm
ottocrat Says:
July 22nd, 2009 at 2:28 pm
I just got my 3-pack. I usually get that, and buy single tix for a couple of other games. SD 9/14, REDSKINS 11/22, and BENGALS 12/15. God, I hope the last two will be meaningful games.
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Well…it might affect draft positioning!
July 22nd, 2009 at 2:55 pm
Kind of slow in here today….
July 22nd, 2009 at 2:57 pm
Harrison accuser shot 7 times, in critical conditionby FOXSports.com
Updated: July 22, 2009, 2:18 PM EDT
A Philadelphia man who says he was shot by NFL receiver Marvin Harrison last year remains in critical condition after being shot again.
Dwight Dixon was found shot multiple times in the city’s Fairmount section late Tuesday morning.
A spokesman at Hahnemann University Hospital said Dixon, 33, remained in critical condition Wednesday.
Police have not made an arrest in the case.
Dixon, who sued Harrison after his criminal case was dismissed, was shot seven times while sitting in a parked rental car, the New York Daily News reported. He was shot in the arm, chest and stomach. The Philadelphia Daily News reported that Dixon was found leaning against the car after the incident.
Dixon reportedly told police that arrived on the scene that he believed Harrison had hired someone to shoot him because of the prior dispute. Authorities are investigating whether Harrison is linked, a police source told the New York Daily News.
The Philadelphia Daily News, however, says a police source has indicated that investigators have no evidence to link Harrison to the shooting and no suspects.
The report out of Philadelphia says Dixon was rushed into surgery at the hospital and detectives had yet to talk to him.
Witnesses reported a hooded gunman, about 6-feet tall, wearing blue jeans and white sneakers.
Harrison was released by the Colts after the season and is currently a free agent.
Information from The Associated Press was used in this report.
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Lol, Marvin cleaning up loose ends before he signs with Minn or Chicago?
July 22nd, 2009 at 2:59 pm
Damm U Robbins! Once a Raider, Always a Raider…god speed my son…
July 22nd, 2009 at 3:03 pm
RR,
LMAO
I wish, but I kave a kid and I want more.
Kids and drugs are not a good mix. LOL
July 22nd, 2009 at 3:05 pm
Looks like old One Ball isn’t going to win the Tour de Frenchie…haha
July 22nd, 2009 at 3:07 pm
O,
Kids and drugs mix fine in Arizona… Ask Matt Lienert.
July 22nd, 2009 at 3:11 pm
The fact Oakland passed on both Lienart and Vince Young should go as a credit toward our scouting.
Jerry, as always, thank you for your work. Do you think we’ll go with only 2 TE’s and 7 LB’s? Seems to remember this broguth up in an earlier post…
I like Strong and think we got him cuzza a couple of incidents on field and off.
Could develop slowly into a decent back up for Miller…
July 22nd, 2009 at 3:12 pm
Raider Revolution!~
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1DGfXAvgknM
Al Davis as “Dr. X”
July 22nd, 2009 at 3:16 pm
Because KK everybody but you is aware there was no rape. The woman is trying to get paid. Ben is no more guilty than Kobe was. Your overzealous use of the race card makes you look like the idiot you likely are.
# KoolKell Says:
July 22nd, 2009 at 10:01 am
Ben Rothlisberger accused of Rape
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/22/sports/football/22roethlisberger.html?em
I don’t see all the self-righteous indignation from the Podunk County types this morning. Funny that.
July 22nd, 2009 at 3:19 pm
Nnamdi21,
I don’t think we passed on Vince Young, but we did pass on Cutler…and I for one would much rather have had Cutler as our QB and no Michael Huff…
July 22nd, 2009 at 3:19 pm
Cops are human beings.
They have good days
They have bad days
They deal with the ugliness and horror we are capable of visiting on each other.
They don’t do it for the pay
They do it for you
For me
For all
Respect.
I wouldn’t want to.
Theres too many people I might think just needed shot…
“Skip to the front of the line!”
Seriously though, tough job. Thanks for bein’ there…
July 22nd, 2009 at 3:21 pm
Kick this one around: Will, Andrew get cut before camp opens next week? Or…
Will, Al be the spiteful sob that he can be, and keep him on the roster until the end of camp. Just so Walter’s chances of landing on another team are diminished?
July 22nd, 2009 at 3:22 pm
Before camp!
July 22nd, 2009 at 3:24 pm
107. He could keep him because he knows the system and is an experienced Raider back up…LOL! Ok, ok, I know, just kidding…
July 22nd, 2009 at 3:26 pm
Walters chances are better landing a team after camp, incase someone else doesnt pan out, Walter will be waiting by the phone.
July 22nd, 2009 at 3:27 pm
AZ, who is Walters? I looked on the depth chart & all I could find is Andrew Walter.
July 22nd, 2009 at 3:29 pm
Good attention to detail Mista… Kudos and a cookie!
July 22nd, 2009 at 3:29 pm
Cutler + Tom Walsh = ?????
Cutler + that offensive line = ????
July 22nd, 2009 at 3:30 pm
Huff = crap
July 22nd, 2009 at 3:32 pm
jhill, what do you think of the Odom rumors? Back to the Lakers for 4 years $40 mill…
July 22nd, 2009 at 3:36 pm
Sorry AZ slow day..
July 22nd, 2009 at 3:37 pm
No prob MB, I’m with ya…
July 22nd, 2009 at 3:37 pm
Jhill # 113…
Cutler + Tom Walsh =?????
Cutler + that offensive line =????
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See: Walter, Andrew
July 22nd, 2009 at 3:38 pm
Nnamdi21 Says:
July 22nd, 2009 at 3:19 pm
Cops are human beings.
They have good days
They have bad days
They deal with the ugliness and horror we are capable of visiting on each other.
They don’t do it for the pay
They do it for you
For me
For all
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Bullshyt, they do it to throw their wieght around.
July 22nd, 2009 at 3:38 pm
Make it chocolate chip.
July 22nd, 2009 at 3:38 pm
LO is wearing out his welcome. I barely wanted him back in the beggining, and it is more of “awww give the guy a chance” that we NEED him to repeat.
I would actually try and send him to elsewhere in a sign and trade, and bolster the bench. Sasha, Farmar, and Odom can all go. I’d rather have a Mike Miller, Linas Klieza, Hinrich, Outlaw, and a few other guys. We don’t need Luke AND LO with Artest on board AND a healthy Bynum.
July 22nd, 2009 at 3:39 pm
Huff = Hotseat!
Kelly = Hotseat!
Chargers = Cr@p!
Chiefs = Cr@p!
Broncos = Cr@p!
July 22nd, 2009 at 3:40 pm
Mistabrown Says:
July 22nd, 2009 at 3:16 pm
Because KK everybody but you is aware there was no rape. The woman is trying to get paid
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You don’t know that, you name-calling little bag of pus.
You assume he’s not guilty, like you assume McNair deserved to die.
July 22nd, 2009 at 3:41 pm
You guys have brought some comedy to the boards today man.
July 22nd, 2009 at 3:41 pm
Man, you know it’s slow when your bored with your own posts LOL…
Go ahead Bo, Dude, whoever else… Say it..
July 22nd, 2009 at 3:42 pm
What did everyone think of Cable’s play calling last year?
July 22nd, 2009 at 3:42 pm
24,
Check out Dakota and post#24 STILL L’ingMFAO!!!!
July 22nd, 2009 at 3:43 pm
Loved everything but the fake fieldgoal 24… We were just talking about that earlier. Seemed a little aggressive, did Cable! I liked it…
July 22nd, 2009 at 3:44 pm
If Roethlisberger is guilty of anything, its putting himself in a position for that to happen obviously. Now whether he is actually guilty or not is another thing but when you are famous, you must becareful. The girl could have been planted by a division foe for all we know. Sometimes, thats the only way to knock out the oppositions QB.
July 22nd, 2009 at 3:44 pm
To be honest, I think I am just offended – LMFAO at that – that LO hasn’t accepted the offer yet. I wanted his sorry arse gone for so many years, and actually wanted Artest instead. Now that it has actually happened, it was funny to me that I even was like, yeah, bring him back. But HOW DARE he – are you still laughing – slap us in the face with a strong arm!
Lucky bahstud!
And I REALLY don’t see him getting a lot of minutes, unless we see him at G. Kobe, Artest, Gasol, and Bynum will lead the team in minutes. Don’t bank on Bynum getting taken out by a team mate 3 straight years.
July 22nd, 2009 at 3:44 pm
AZ…Thats why I mentioned the comedy. =)
July 22nd, 2009 at 3:45 pm
I liked Cable’s playcalling too, once K Harris left the scene.
July 22nd, 2009 at 3:48 pm
Post it.
If I said anything about McNair I will leave this blog.
waiting..
July 22nd, 2009 at 3:50 pm
Oline! Oline! Oline!
At least 2 new starters from the end of the year, maybe 3 if one of the youngster can supplant Carlisle.
We all know we can run block, but will this group finally give the QB time to throw?
July 22nd, 2009 at 3:51 pm
Post it.
July 22nd, 2009 at 3:51 pm
At least Cable opened up the playbook and took some chances, with of course that lame azz fake FG.
Will be very anxious to see what Tollner & Hackett can add to it this year.
July 22nd, 2009 at 3:52 pm
Wait a minute …
4 year, 40 million and he hasn’t signed that?!?!?!?
Get that clown outta here!
July 22nd, 2009 at 3:52 pm
Mistabrown Says:
July 22nd, 2009 at 3:50 pm
KK you are a complete JackA$$.
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Some say the same about you. Dummy.
July 22nd, 2009 at 3:52 pm
Cable was definitely more aggressive and I’m not mad at the fake field goal. You win some, you lose some and if it had worked, he’d be hailed for it but he counted on his players to get it done and they botched it. No big deal, he learned from it I think. You have to wonder whether Cable will ask his OC or QB Coach what plays to call at times and if he does…do you think Al Davis listens to that stuff? Do you think he has a radio setup in his room to hear the conversations? I think I would want one just for curiosity if I was the owner. I’d want to know what was called, who called it and how the outcome was.
July 22nd, 2009 at 3:53 pm
lame azz fake FG, being the exception….errrr
July 22nd, 2009 at 3:55 pm
What game was the fake field goal in again?
July 22nd, 2009 at 3:56 pm
Exactly! I never mentioned McNair but you are like much like PokeGlenn when you have no defense you resort to lying.
You are a worthless puke.
July 22nd, 2009 at 3:57 pm
Video of LeBron James getting dunked on.
http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/blog/ball_dont_lie/post/TMZ-posts-anticlimactic-video-of-LeBron-getting-?urn=nba,178138
I don’t see what the big deal is.
July 22nd, 2009 at 3:57 pm
24
To you question about playcaling input to Cable. I was very impressed with Cable when DMac called his own number in the Denver game for a goal line TD. Good way for the players to feel ownership of the product. Team spirit.
July 22nd, 2009 at 3:58 pm
i would rather he kicked the FG then onside kicked like in the Texas game (too bad we lost Baker
)…
i would have liked to see more DMAC and BUSH earier too, but thats depth chart, not play calling…
July 22nd, 2009 at 3:59 pm
Dang Mista, the vibe was so calm today…
July 22nd, 2009 at 3:59 pm
MistaBrownStains,
Go jump off a building and put yourself out of your misery.
July 22nd, 2009 at 4:00 pm
Fake field goal in KC and cost us the sweep!
July 22nd, 2009 at 4:00 pm
KC game at home.
July 22nd, 2009 at 4:01 pm
Oh yeah, vs not at… KC that is
July 22nd, 2009 at 4:02 pm
With Myers coming on board, we at least know we will see more 2 TE sets.
I see NO reason for Cable to not mix in the shotgun formation.
July 22nd, 2009 at 4:04 pm
Better pray to the lord jeeeezus, that Miller stays healthy.
July 22nd, 2009 at 4:04 pm
jhill Says:
July 22nd, 2009 at 3:29 pm
Cutler + Tom Walsh = ????
Cutler + that offensive line = ????
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Ahhhh…simultaneous equations….
Well, solving for “????” I believe the right answer is:
???? = Andrew Walter
???? = David Carr
Is that the right answer?
July 22nd, 2009 at 4:05 pm
AZ, hes a bigot and& a liar he needs to be addressed.
July 22nd, 2009 at 4:06 pm
LOL SnB!
July 22nd, 2009 at 4:07 pm
Cutler + Tom Walsh = Bus Boy or Dish Washer
July 22nd, 2009 at 4:08 pm
That fake FG is seared into my memeory, due to the fact that one of the barmaids at the local dive I used to watch the game at is a huge chefs fan, and we always gave each other cr@p during the games and had a shot of your favorite booze as a bet.
Sadly that dive has changed hands, and it remains to be seen if the new owners will have the NFL ticket.):
July 22nd, 2009 at 4:08 pm
BrownStains
You’re a dummy and a moron. naynananayyyna.
July 22nd, 2009 at 4:09 pm
jhill Says:
July 22nd, 2009 at 3:50 pm
Oline! Oline! Oline!
At least 2 new starters from the end of the year, maybe 3 if one of the youngster can supplant Carlisle.
We all know we can run block, but will this group finally give the QB time to throw?
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JHill,
The Raiders have the pieces they believe in. Coach Cable and the assistants know this team should improve. They have said they are happy with the talent and its a matter of coaching.
Let’s give them a chance now to get this right. The O-Line should be decent, the defense has all the pieces together that they want and the skill positions are loaded.
Its about having a solid camp and having some spirited ocmpetition.
July 22nd, 2009 at 4:09 pm
Post #3 – Terry Kirby
July 22nd, 2009 at 4:10 pm
Jhill,
He will. I think Cable has more football upstairs than people give him credit. I liked the play calling. he mixed it up pretty well. WAAAAYYY more unpredictable than Kiffin FOR SURE!
July 22nd, 2009 at 4:10 pm
I can’t see any reason for Mario Henderson to regress.
July 22nd, 2009 at 4:13 pm
Well, I take that back… Who’da thunk a 75 yard FG try?
July 22nd, 2009 at 4:13 pm
That year set us back so far, and it is ashamed that Art Shell had to take the fall for that inept staff. I don’t know WTF he was thinking when he put that staff together. 3 Oline coaches that didn’t agree on one technique? An OC who had been out of football for how long? Talk about taking 3 steps backwards!
July 22nd, 2009 at 4:14 pm
I don’t blame the offensive line for the running game. They deserve blame for pass protection but I think Fargas makes the line look bad and considering he starts most of the time, it makes sense. The offensive line looks incredible when McFadden and Bush are playing. Gee…I wonder why? Its amazing what a good running back can do behind a good line compared to an average one dimensional back.
July 22nd, 2009 at 4:16 pm
Shell was also out of football for awhile at that point as well I believe. Overall…it was just a bad hire to begin with and I don’t know what Al Davis was thinking. If AD was truly regretful of firing Shell to begin with, he wouldn’t have waited so damn long to re-hire him and make amends. I just think he ran out of options and used that as an excuse for hiring him.
July 22nd, 2009 at 4:16 pm
Mike Shanahan will coach the Chargers in 2010. You heard it here first.
July 22nd, 2009 at 4:17 pm
When Cable was the OC at UCLA, they lit it up…
July 22nd, 2009 at 4:17 pm
Your “change in attitude” is really catching me off guard SnB, lol. Everything is rosy for you now that camp is approaching?
I know the coaches “think” they have the pieces in place but the fact is this brand new offensive line is going to need time to gel, right? A new C, and two new bookends from this time last year?
Pass protection will be everything!
July 22nd, 2009 at 4:19 pm
new post!
July 22nd, 2009 at 4:21 pm
That Shell year was a true disaster. The O-Line was just dreadful….dreadful…
I also think that experience ruined a young QB that had some promise. Now Walter just needs a new start
Why is he still on the roster with 6 days till camp starts?
The Raiders really have it in for this kid. Even had him as the 4th string in 2007. What team has a 4th string QB?
Let the kid go already. He deserves a chance to restart his career
July 22nd, 2009 at 4:21 pm
AZ,
LMAO @101
July 22nd, 2009 at 4:22 pm
I’m not as worried about the Oline as I was in week 2 LOL. The end of the year there, they all held up pretty well, and Russell was getting some time. Just no recievers getting open till JLH and Chaz got the starting spots. There were some snaps in both the TB game and Texans game that Henderson looked ALL PRO! FA REAL TOO!
July 22nd, 2009 at 4:23 pm
Whats up O..
haha!
July 22nd, 2009 at 4:25 pm
New post AZ.
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