Comments on: Camp analysis: Wide receivers http://www.ibabuzz.com/oaklandraiders/2009/07/23/camp-analysis-wide-receivers/ A look inside the world of the highly classified Oakland Raiders from the writers of Bay Area News Group Sat, 25 May 2013 08:40:50 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: No One Wants to Hear They Have an Ugly Baby | Free Infant Samples Blog http://www.ibabuzz.com/oaklandraiders/2009/07/23/camp-analysis-wide-receivers/comment-page-3/#comment-114298 No One Wants to Hear They Have an Ugly Baby | Free Infant Samples Blog Wed, 29 Jul 2009 17:41:03 +0000 http://www.ibabuzz.com/raidersblog/?p=5440#comment-114298 [...] Camp analysis: Wide receivers - Inside The Oakland Raiders - A … [...] [...] Camp analysis: Wide receivers – Inside The Oakland Raiders – A … [...]

]]> By: RaiderJohn http://www.ibabuzz.com/oaklandraiders/2009/07/23/camp-analysis-wide-receivers/comment-page-3/#comment-114297 RaiderJohn Mon, 27 Jul 2009 21:33:25 +0000 http://www.ibabuzz.com/raidersblog/?p=5440#comment-114297 Dear Jamarcus Russell, In a year where all the TV analysts are saying this is your make or break season I disagree. Typically the rule is 3 years before the “bust” tag can be applied and your first year didn’t count because of the hold-out. That contract is done, feed and house your family well and give us fan-family what we deserve; A Super Bowl!! Not this year, no pressure but in time? Yes, I believe in you. So as a big fan of yours and an active member of the Raider Nation I have to ask you: ARE YOU READY? Are you ready to quiet the critics? Are you ready to handle the media? And most important are you ready to be the LEADER of the Oakland Raiders for the next 15 seasons? In the huddle, in the locker room, off and on the field, down by 7 with 1:32 in the 4th? ARE YOU READY? Your skill is a gift, a god-given gift that was given to you for the purpose of winning and entertaining. And you ARE a RAIDER, so let’s do this huh? I don’t know yet if they gave you that right tools to be a true passer with DHB. Khalif Barnes etc..but only time will tell. And Garcia? They just put him there to light your fire. That’s all. You are the starter for now, but listen to Jeff because he has been around the block a few times seeing that he is 39 years old and all. But also know this, you are 24 years old right? You have your whole life ahead of you, don’t you want to go to the hall of fame some day? I think it’s possible but you need to apply yourself as a leader NOW! That’s where it starts. While critics say what they say about you, they rarely mention the positive. Never have a seen you blame your WR’s or your O-line men, or slag off your team mates in the media (think Ryan Leaf), You seem to be accountable on the field. Never mind the big arm, that’s just something you already have. You were born to do this. This season understand this; our defense against ranks worst against the run, and this will not allow you much time to even be on the field as teams will again know to simply eat up the clock on the Raiders by running the ball over and over. This was not addressed in the off season. The schedule is also VERY difficult. This means that 2-6 by mid-season is very possible. But it won’t be your fault necessarily , the organization is to blame for not putting the right people in place. Garcia will come in, he’ll win a couple games and the analysts will go crazy. Warren Sapp will be beaming with arrogance (even though he praised you a few months ago, what’s wrong with that dude?), and people will say “I told you so” BUT they will be wrong. I know there is greatness in you, I know you are pro-bowl material, and I know you can take US to the Super Bowl. So go into this season as the leader of the Oakland Raiders, hold your head up high, get the team to play for you and gather around you and respect you as a LEADER!! -A true fan Dear Jamarcus Russell,
In a year where all the TV analysts are saying this is your make or break season I disagree. Typically the rule is 3 years before the “bust” tag can be applied and your first year didn’t count because of the hold-out. That contract is done, feed and house your family well and give us fan-family what we deserve; A Super Bowl!! Not this year, no pressure but in time? Yes, I believe in you.
So as a big fan of yours and an active member of the Raider Nation I have to ask you: ARE YOU READY? Are you ready to quiet the critics? Are you ready to handle the media? And most important are you ready to be the LEADER of the Oakland Raiders for the next 15 seasons? In the huddle, in the locker room, off and on the field, down by 7 with 1:32 in the 4th? ARE YOU READY?
Your skill is a gift, a god-given gift that was given to you for the purpose of winning and entertaining. And you ARE a RAIDER, so let’s do this huh? I don’t know yet if they gave you that right tools to be a true passer with DHB. Khalif Barnes etc..but only time will tell. And Garcia? They just put him there to light your fire. That’s all. You are the starter for now, but listen to Jeff because he has been around the block a few times seeing that he is 39 years old and all. But also know this, you are 24 years old right? You have your whole life ahead of you, don’t you want to go to the hall of fame some day? I think it’s possible but you need to apply yourself as a leader NOW! That’s where it starts.
While critics say what they say about you, they rarely mention the positive. Never have a seen you blame your WR’s or your O-line men, or slag off your team mates in the media (think Ryan Leaf), You seem to be accountable on the field. Never mind the big arm, that’s just something you already have. You were born to do this.
This season understand this; our defense against ranks worst against the run, and this will not allow you much time to even be on the field as teams will again know to simply eat up the clock on the Raiders by running the ball over and over. This was not addressed in the off season. The schedule is also VERY difficult. This means that 2-6 by mid-season is very possible. But it won’t be your fault necessarily , the organization is to blame for not putting the right people in place. Garcia will come in, he’ll win a couple games and the analysts will go crazy. Warren Sapp will be beaming with arrogance (even though he praised you a few months ago, what’s wrong with that dude?), and people will say “I told you so” BUT they will be wrong. I know there is greatness in you, I know you are pro-bowl material, and I know you can take US to the Super Bowl.
So go into this season as the leader of the Oakland Raiders, hold your head up high, get the team to play for you and gather around you and respect you as a LEADER!!

-A true fan

]]> By: Bay Area Sports Blog » Cuban vs. Nelson: Who ya got? http://www.ibabuzz.com/oaklandraiders/2009/07/23/camp-analysis-wide-receivers/comment-page-3/#comment-16430 Bay Area Sports Blog » Cuban vs. Nelson: Who ya got? Fri, 24 Jul 2009 12:49:50 +0000 http://www.ibabuzz.com/raidersblog/?p=5440#comment-16430 [...] Here’s a bold prediction: The Raiders will get more production from their receivers this season. Inside the Raiders [...] [...] Here’s a bold prediction: The Raiders will get more production from their receivers this season. Inside the Raiders [...]

]]> By: AZ Raider http://www.ibabuzz.com/oaklandraiders/2009/07/23/camp-analysis-wide-receivers/comment-page-3/#comment-16429 AZ Raider Thu, 23 Jul 2009 22:25:48 +0000 http://www.ibabuzz.com/raidersblog/?p=5440#comment-16429 NEW POST HAYES NEW POST HAYES

]]> By: HayesDaze37 http://www.ibabuzz.com/oaklandraiders/2009/07/23/camp-analysis-wide-receivers/comment-page-3/#comment-16428 HayesDaze37 Thu, 23 Jul 2009 22:20:56 +0000 http://www.ibabuzz.com/raidersblog/?p=5440#comment-16428 AZ -- The TE FINDS the seam...he's not "sitting" on either of those routes... AZ — The TE FINDS the seam…he’s not “sitting” on either of those routes…

]]> By: HayesDaze37 http://www.ibabuzz.com/oaklandraiders/2009/07/23/camp-analysis-wide-receivers/comment-page-3/#comment-16427 HayesDaze37 Thu, 23 Jul 2009 22:19:36 +0000 http://www.ibabuzz.com/raidersblog/?p=5440#comment-16427 Coach on Wheels Says: Oh Hayes I don’t deny that there is a microscopic chance Walker will be a decent WR. He will NOT be a mentor or leader however. Cris Carter was a mentor for Moss. No matter how good he is, Moss joins guys like TO in the “no leadership / mentoring” catagory. --------------------------------------------- Carter was mentor to Moss? This is the same Randy Moss that "shoved" a traffic cop all the way down the street with his car...while Carter was his mentor? Some mentor. Mentoring isn't just preaching "values" (whatever that means) at kid. Mentoring is...how to play...how to run...when to run...how to deke...how to cut...where to cut...WHO to cut on...WHO to cheat on...WHO to run on...and so on all the way down the line. Most coaches don't know all those things, unless they've played at a high level and/or against the same defenders they're "teaching" our guys about. Coach, I know you're a better than average coach, I believe it anyway. But, assuming you're a real coach and not just a name, you must admit that there are guys on ALL teams that aren't saints, and who maybe aren't contributing the way they are expected to. Those things do not make those guys automatically disposable. To discard a talent like Javon Walker before it's proven he's done would be foolish (especially with the already-spent investment). And to assume he has no more to offer, just because of his stupid behavior on his own time, would be a mistake. No sweet way to say it, it works both ways for players/owners: Use the guy for everything you can before you discard him. Let the young kids play!! I'm all for it, always have been. But, don't just throw the WR kids onto the field without a little more inside info...or they won't be more than flashes this year... ...as opposed to the season-long contributors we want at least one of them to be in his rookie year. Walker could be valuable, even if he gets beat out. Coach on Wheels Says:

Oh Hayes I don’t deny that there is a microscopic chance Walker will be a decent WR. He will NOT be a mentor or leader however. Cris Carter was a mentor for Moss. No matter how good he is, Moss joins guys like TO in the “no leadership / mentoring” catagory.

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Carter was mentor to Moss? This is the same Randy Moss that “shoved” a traffic cop all the way down the street with his car…while Carter was his mentor?

Some mentor.

Mentoring isn’t just preaching “values” (whatever that means) at kid. Mentoring is…how to play…how to run…when to run…how to deke…how to cut…where to cut…WHO to cut on…WHO to cheat on…WHO to run on…and so on all the way down the line. Most coaches don’t know all those things, unless they’ve played at a high level and/or against the same defenders they’re “teaching” our guys about.

Coach, I know you’re a better than average coach, I believe it anyway. But, assuming you’re a real coach and not just a name, you must admit that there are guys on ALL teams that aren’t saints, and who maybe aren’t contributing the way they are expected to. Those things do not make those guys automatically disposable.

To discard a talent like Javon Walker before it’s proven he’s done would be foolish (especially with the already-spent investment). And to assume he has no more to offer, just because of his stupid behavior on his own time, would be a mistake.

No sweet way to say it, it works both ways for players/owners: Use the guy for everything you can before you discard him.

Let the young kids play!! I’m all for it, always have been. But, don’t just throw the WR kids onto the field without a little more inside info…or they won’t be more than flashes this year…

…as opposed to the season-long contributors we want at least one of them to be in his rookie year. Walker could be valuable, even if he gets beat out.

]]> By: AZ Raider http://www.ibabuzz.com/oaklandraiders/2009/07/23/camp-analysis-wide-receivers/comment-page-3/#comment-16426 AZ Raider Thu, 23 Jul 2009 22:12:17 +0000 http://www.ibabuzz.com/raidersblog/?p=5440#comment-16426 DK, forgot about DHB's jump ball... I agree he better be in there in every redzone situation. DK,

forgot about DHB’s jump ball… I agree he better be in there in every redzone situation.

]]> By: DKnight007 http://www.ibabuzz.com/oaklandraiders/2009/07/23/camp-analysis-wide-receivers/comment-page-3/#comment-16425 DKnight007 Thu, 23 Jul 2009 22:08:13 +0000 http://www.ibabuzz.com/raidersblog/?p=5440#comment-16425 What needs to happen, is Coach Cable needs to call plays for DHB in the red zone or just outside the red zone when he has one on one coverage and have him get a chance at scoring some TD's early in the season to get DHB's confidence going early on. He also needs to some WR screens for him and give some over the top balls to go up and grab. What needs to happen, is Coach Cable needs to call plays for DHB in the red zone or just outside the red zone when he has one on one coverage and have him get a chance at scoring some TD’s early in the season to get DHB’s confidence going early on.

He also needs to some WR screens for him and give some over the top balls to go up and grab.

]]> By: AZ Raider http://www.ibabuzz.com/oaklandraiders/2009/07/23/camp-analysis-wide-receivers/comment-page-3/#comment-16424 AZ Raider Thu, 23 Jul 2009 22:07:25 +0000 http://www.ibabuzz.com/raidersblog/?p=5440#comment-16424 Hayes... Can't say I ever saw anyone but Watkins run a streak pattern where they actually got the ball thrown to them and it was Bush who threw that pass for PI call in TB. But I can tell you Russell and his #1 at LSU had the steak perfected. Problem is, we had no reliable reciever to go run the streak down. We drafted that guy, and got another in the 4th. That play we run all day with Miller, well that's not a seam, its an in pattern and he also catches the short post, but regardless what you call it, it works well. I stand by my statement that Russell CAN and WILL throw the streak nicely. The wheel pattern we like to run with DMAC up the sidline? He needs to work on that or he's gonna get someone seriouly injured or picked off. He puts way too much air under that ball. Hayes…

Can’t say I ever saw anyone but Watkins run a streak pattern where they actually got the ball thrown to them and it was Bush who threw that pass for PI call in TB. But I can tell you Russell and his #1 at LSU had the steak perfected. Problem is, we had no reliable reciever to go run the streak down. We drafted that guy, and got another in the 4th.

That play we run all day with Miller, well that’s not a seam, its an in pattern and he also catches the short post, but regardless what you call it, it works well.

I stand by my statement that Russell CAN and WILL throw the streak nicely.

The wheel pattern we like to run with DMAC up the sidline? He needs to work on that or he’s gonna get someone seriouly injured or picked off. He puts way too much air under that ball.

]]> By: RaiderRockstar http://www.ibabuzz.com/oaklandraiders/2009/07/23/camp-analysis-wide-receivers/comment-page-3/#comment-16423 RaiderRockstar Thu, 23 Jul 2009 21:59:32 +0000 http://www.ibabuzz.com/raidersblog/?p=5440#comment-16423 y'all have a great night now. ya hear? till tomorrow ... same time, same place y’all have a great night now. ya hear?

till tomorrow … same time, same place

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