Comments on: Gallery out after appendectomy http://www.ibabuzz.com/oaklandraiders/2009/07/25/gallery-out-after-appendectomy/ A look inside the world of the highly classified Oakland Raiders from the writers of Bay Area News Group Wed, 22 May 2013 18:14:27 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: sausee1 http://www.ibabuzz.com/oaklandraiders/2009/07/25/gallery-out-after-appendectomy/comment-page-1/#comment-16922 sausee1 Mon, 27 Jul 2009 02:15:57 +0000 http://www.ibabuzz.com/raidersblog/?p=5469#comment-16922 Shouldn't be out too long...needs to come back ready to do work. Shouldn’t be out too long…needs to come back ready to do work.

]]> By: Nnamdi21 http://www.ibabuzz.com/oaklandraiders/2009/07/25/gallery-out-after-appendectomy/comment-page-1/#comment-16921 Nnamdi21 Mon, 27 Jul 2009 00:52:10 +0000 http://www.ibabuzz.com/raidersblog/?p=5469#comment-16921 26. The Patriots cheat their azzes off too. 26. The Patriots cheat their azzes off too.

]]> By: Nnamdi21 http://www.ibabuzz.com/oaklandraiders/2009/07/25/gallery-out-after-appendectomy/comment-page-1/#comment-16891 Nnamdi21 Mon, 27 Jul 2009 00:50:14 +0000 http://www.ibabuzz.com/raidersblog/?p=5469#comment-16891 He'll be fine and ready for SD He’ll be fine and ready for SD

]]> By: jthurm22 http://www.ibabuzz.com/oaklandraiders/2009/07/25/gallery-out-after-appendectomy/comment-page-1/#comment-16920 jthurm22 Sun, 26 Jul 2009 19:05:02 +0000 http://www.ibabuzz.com/raidersblog/?p=5469#comment-16920 I think it's funny that people criticize the way a team is built. The way I look at it, most teams improve themselves through free agency and less so through the draft because the draft is more of a hit or miss type of deal. With free agents, you know a bit more of what you get. How many of the players in which the Patriots have drafted put them over the top? Brady, Seymour are the main guys. But over the years, they have acquired vets such as Moss, Rodney Harrison, Seau, Dillon. They have as many 1st and 2nd round busts on their team as any other squad. The main point is that they had a good base of both, drafted players and free agents that put them over the top. In the early 2000s, when the Raiders put together good seasons and eventually went to the SB, we had Rice, Woodson, Gannon, Eric Allen, Tory James, Crockett, Wheatley, among others, all players that were thought to be too old or not getting it done with their old team, that came to Oakland and had a resurgence in their careers. Our problem has been signing free agents to do things that they are incapable of because of their actual lack of talent although the media made them out to be great players. Warren Sapp has never been good against the run and he wasn't going to get any better at it in Oakland. Tampa Bay's run defense was always their achilles heel. It's always a wonder why Callahan didn't run on them in the SB. DeAngelo Hall was never good in man coverage. If you look at his highlights, he made good on overthrown or underthrown balls where he was out of position but got lucky. So when it came to playing man coverage, he was an easy target and a terrible acquisition. I wonder if anybody remembers when the Raiders beat the Bucs in 1999 45-0 and ran for 242 yds agianst them. Both Wheatley, another FA acquisition and Kaufman had over 100yds rushing. The good ol days, and who was manning the middle that day? Warren "Can't stop the run" Sapp I think it’s funny that people criticize the way a team is built. The way I look at it, most teams improve themselves through free agency and less so through the draft because the draft is more of a hit or miss type of deal. With free agents, you know a bit more of what you get. How many of the players in which the Patriots have drafted put them over the top? Brady, Seymour are the main guys. But over the years, they have acquired vets such as Moss, Rodney Harrison, Seau, Dillon. They have as many 1st and 2nd round busts on their team as any other squad. The main point is that they had a good base of both, drafted players and free agents that put them over the top.
In the early 2000s, when the Raiders put together good seasons and eventually went to the SB, we had Rice, Woodson, Gannon, Eric Allen, Tory James, Crockett, Wheatley, among others, all players that were thought to be too old or not getting it done with their old team, that came to Oakland and had a resurgence in their careers. Our problem has been signing free agents to do things that they are incapable of because of their actual lack of talent although the media made them out to be great players.
Warren Sapp has never been good against the run and he wasn’t going to get any better at it in Oakland. Tampa Bay’s run defense was always their achilles heel. It’s always a wonder why Callahan didn’t run on them in the SB. DeAngelo Hall was never good in man coverage. If you look at his highlights, he made good on overthrown or underthrown balls where he was out of position but got lucky. So when it came to playing man coverage, he was an easy target and a terrible acquisition.
I wonder if anybody remembers when the Raiders beat the Bucs in 1999 45-0 and ran for 242 yds agianst them. Both Wheatley, another FA acquisition and Kaufman had over 100yds rushing. The good ol days, and who was manning the middle that day? Warren “Can’t stop the run” Sapp

]]> By: Florida Pete http://www.ibabuzz.com/oaklandraiders/2009/07/25/gallery-out-after-appendectomy/comment-page-1/#comment-16892 Florida Pete Sun, 26 Jul 2009 14:37:10 +0000 http://www.ibabuzz.com/raidersblog/?p=5469#comment-16892 hello? echo...echo...echo... hello?

echo…echo…echo…

]]> By: AZ Raider2 http://www.ibabuzz.com/oaklandraiders/2009/07/25/gallery-out-after-appendectomy/comment-page-1/#comment-16919 AZ Raider2 Sun, 26 Jul 2009 13:46:41 +0000 http://www.ibabuzz.com/raidersblog/?p=5469#comment-16919 Last 3 drafts were skill offensive positions, so unless Huff stil under achieves and Johnson still plays the way he did last year, we might be able to avoid the temptation Al will get to draft the fastes DB at the combine. Last 3 drafts were skill offensive positions, so unless Huff stil under achieves and Johnson still plays the way he did last year, we might be able to avoid the temptation Al will get to draft the fastes DB at the combine.

]]> By: 408RAIDER http://www.ibabuzz.com/oaklandraiders/2009/07/25/gallery-out-after-appendectomy/comment-page-1/#comment-16918 408RAIDER Sun, 26 Jul 2009 13:43:59 +0000 http://www.ibabuzz.com/raidersblog/?p=5469#comment-16918 Is there any body out there? Got my pink floyd tickets. Is there any body out there? Got my pink floyd tickets.

]]> By: AZ Raider2 http://www.ibabuzz.com/oaklandraiders/2009/07/25/gallery-out-after-appendectomy/comment-page-1/#comment-16893 AZ Raider2 Sun, 26 Jul 2009 13:42:41 +0000 http://www.ibabuzz.com/raidersblog/?p=5469#comment-16893 We haven't addressed the interior of our deffensive live besides signing T Kelly to big contract, is where I think their argument is preist. True Kelly was "still recovering" last season, but I was never convinced Kelly at 100% was worth the contract he got. He'll have to prove that I guess. My guess is Al is finally going to rebuild the way it's supposed to be done through the draft, instead of patching with unwanted vets who's games had slipped with thier old teams. We haven’t addressed the interior of our deffensive live besides signing T Kelly to big contract, is where I think their argument is preist. True Kelly was “still recovering” last season, but I was never convinced Kelly at 100% was worth the contract he got. He’ll have to prove that I guess. My guess is Al is finally going to rebuild the way it’s supposed to be done through the draft, instead of patching with unwanted vets who’s games had slipped with thier old teams.

]]> By: priesttj http://www.ibabuzz.com/oaklandraiders/2009/07/25/gallery-out-after-appendectomy/comment-page-1/#comment-16917 priesttj Sun, 26 Jul 2009 04:14:19 +0000 http://www.ibabuzz.com/raidersblog/?p=5469#comment-16917 In the last two years we have added 3 DE's that can play in the last 3 years we've added 4 Ellis, Shaunessy, Gunhiem, T Scott and Jay Richardson. Yet people say we haven't addressed the Dline???? It doesn't matter where you get them 1st or 7th rnd............can they play..........period T Scott allowed us to draft elsewhere in the 1st rnd since he was the one of the top rookie DE's who cares where he was drafted. I really don't get this to draft a guy in the 1st rnd as long as you get what you want. I'll take a UDFA if he';s anothe TK or T Scott what the hell do I care?? In the last two years we have added 3 DE’s that can play in the last 3 years we’ve added 4 Ellis, Shaunessy, Gunhiem, T Scott and Jay Richardson.

Yet people say we haven’t addressed the Dline????

It doesn’t matter where you get them 1st or 7th rnd…………can they play……….period

T Scott allowed us to draft elsewhere in the 1st rnd since he was the one of the top rookie DE’s who cares where he was drafted. I really don’t get this to draft a guy in the 1st rnd as long as you get what you want. I’ll take a UDFA if he’;s anothe TK or T Scott what the hell do I care??

]]> By: priesttj http://www.ibabuzz.com/oaklandraiders/2009/07/25/gallery-out-after-appendectomy/comment-page-1/#comment-16916 priesttj Sun, 26 Jul 2009 04:07:41 +0000 http://www.ibabuzz.com/raidersblog/?p=5469#comment-16916 I wholehearted disagree that the Dline is the weakest part of this defense. The Dline takes all the blame for what is a lack of discipline by the entire defense. The Dline simply gets lions share of the blame due run stats that are not well understod. However when you consider that DBurg was injured Warren played hurt and Kelly was coming off an injury they were not at full strength. I always say that injuries play a HUGE part in your overall success. I like everyone else am full of anticipation concering this unit. But as far as talent it is there ca they stay healthy. The health of DMC and MBush all year long will be very pivotal to the success of the offense. I think we are very strong at HB and it may be the calling card for this team. IMO MBush is as good a HB as there is in the league save AP. DMC is as lethal a weapon as there is in the league. If they stay healthy we will win. The entire offense can play off those two. IMO NMBush must be the center piece of this offense if we want consistency, with DMC playing off Bush similar to Reggie Bush forcing the defense to spread out and If DHB can threaten deep. This could be a very effective offense by midseason wether we win opening day or not. There has never been a defense that is capable of stopping an offense that spread them out and has a bruising HB as a feature back. It puts too much stress on the defense. I wholehearted disagree that the Dline is the weakest part of this defense. The Dline takes all the blame for what is a lack of discipline by the entire defense. The Dline simply gets lions share of the blame due run stats that are not well understod.

However when you consider that DBurg was injured Warren played hurt and Kelly was coming off an injury they were not at full strength. I always say that injuries play a HUGE part in your overall success.

I like everyone else am full of anticipation concering this unit. But as far as talent it is there ca they stay healthy.

The health of DMC and MBush all year long will be very pivotal to the success of the offense. I think we are very strong at HB and it may be the calling card for this team. IMO MBush is as good a HB as there is in the league save AP. DMC is as lethal a weapon as there is in the league. If they stay healthy we will win. The entire offense can play off those two. IMO NMBush must be the center piece of this offense if we want consistency, with DMC playing off Bush similar to Reggie Bush forcing the defense to spread out and If DHB can threaten deep. This could be a very effective offense by midseason wether we win opening day or not.

There has never been a defense that is capable of stopping an offense that spread them out and has a bruising HB as a feature back. It puts too much stress on the defense.

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