To Vick, or not to Vick?
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Tuesday, July 28th, 2009 at 9:43 pm in Oakland Raiders.
Here’s a link to an Bay Area News Group poll about whether the Raiders or 49ers should sign Michael Vick.
Before the Raiders signed Jeff Garcia, I wrote that I thought signing Vick would be a good idea. He knows Tom Cable from Atlanta, could be used creatively along with Darren McFadden in a Wildcat formation and could be a classic Raiders reclamation project.
Not to mention the fact that the whole public relations problem everyone is so worried about wouldn’t exist with the Raiders because they don’t care about P.R. The Raiders do what the Raiders do. Deal with it.
With Garcia aboard, and assuming he’s not going anywhere, it’s hard to envision Vick considering the Raiders as an option because his chances at actually playing quarterback would be slim. If he was the backup to Russell, he’d be an injury away and could still do be used as a gimmick.
As for the 49ers, they’re so over-the-top image conscious it’s hard to imagine Vick coming to San Francisco, although once-upon-a-time it didn’t prevent them from signing Lawrence Phillips with the endorsement of both Bill Walsh and Dr. Harry Edwards.
And if you compare what Michael did to dogs against what Lawrence Phillips did to to the human race, Vick is the far more palatable option.
CCT columnist Cam Inman makes the case for why both teams shouldn’t consider Vick, although his point about Amy Trask being a dog lover is a reach.
If Al Davis was sold on the notion that Vick could help the team win, he’d have no trouble listening to the case made by Tony Dungy _ whom he once interviewed long ago as a head coaching candidate _ and signing him to a contract.
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July 28th, 2009 at 9:43 pm
uno
July 28th, 2009 at 9:44 pm
yea put him in the WILD HOG
July 28th, 2009 at 9:48 pm
Jerry’s on Fire!!!
July 28th, 2009 at 9:50 pm
WOO HOOO!!! Raider Blog Overdose!!
July 28th, 2009 at 9:52 pm
keep em comin jerry……………
July 28th, 2009 at 9:53 pm
# RaiderDogg Says:
July 28th, 2009 at 8:22 pm
Looks like MR is predicting a week one victory for the Raiders. Good for you bro.
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MR is predicting a 10 win season for the Raiders??? After they have lost 6 consecutive losing seasons he finally must be giving up on his beloved SF Phony Whiners.
July 28th, 2009 at 9:53 pm
They were on the team the whole f in year. Why would you just pick the last few games?
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You do understand the concept of picking up where they left off, right? The question for you, again, is do you think JLH and Chz will pick up where they left off last year?
July 28th, 2009 at 9:54 pm
I want to see Mitchell hit B Marshall, and then Royal in the next play.
Go Get’em Mike!!
July 28th, 2009 at 9:54 pm
Hey Glenn, everyone saw your lame post the first time, dont need to see it again.
July 28th, 2009 at 9:55 pm
Where did they leave off?
July 28th, 2009 at 9:55 pm
JLH avg 4 catches and a TD the last 3 games, once Cable started going with the young guys. Will he continue that, possibly get better, or somehow just fall off?
July 28th, 2009 at 9:57 pm
Jerry,
You are doing a great job today, keep up the good work sir.
I’m glad the off season is over with, we need our regular fix. lol
July 28th, 2009 at 9:58 pm
4 catches a game?? Thats just dominant!! And no, he will not avg 4 catches a game. Howd those play out for the whole year by the way? Same with Chaz.
July 28th, 2009 at 9:58 pm
Chaz, 3 catches, and a TD the last 2 games.
Again, Cable finally stopped the Ashlie Lelie and Ron Curry expirement.
July 28th, 2009 at 9:59 pm
Michael Vick is not coming to Oakland. I brought this up a year ago, when Deangelo Hall, Vicks closest friend in the ATL was here. If things went right, we might have seen Vick here. Things did not go right for DeAngelo, so Vick is not coming here. The second point is Mike Vick might be one of the top two or three athletes in the entire NFL. The problem is he relies on that athleticism and might be in the bottom 2 or 3 players in the ENTIRE LEAGUE in watching film, preparing, and dedicating himself to the game. Not really the example you want for an overall number one draft choice, who plays the same position, who you want studying in the film room
July 28th, 2009 at 10:01 pm
That’s one of the things I hated about John G, he never played the young guys. He lives his Vets.
I liked John a lot, but he didn’t play the young guys and he was too conservative with his play calling. When Bill C became the HC, he opened up the playbook. 3 & 4 WRs formation most of the time. The good ol days.
July 28th, 2009 at 10:02 pm
All teams that are out of the race play young guys, not just the Raiders. Those numbers are laughable. 3 catches? 4 catches? Must be kidding.
July 28th, 2009 at 10:04 pm
Again, who said dominant? That’s you stretching things so that you can try and be Dude on here and create an argument, lol!
Are you really arguing that DCs will not respect the speed of our team?
July 28th, 2009 at 10:06 pm
# Dude Says:
July 28th, 2009 at 9:54 pm
Hey Glenn, everyone saw your lame post the first time, dont need to see it again.
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Why do you think I give a rats ass what you think? You’re a complete dumb ass.
July 28th, 2009 at 10:07 pm
Respect, sure. Fear, no way. I like bothe JHL and Chaz, neither are starting WRs on a good offense.
July 28th, 2009 at 10:07 pm
# Dude Says:
July 28th, 2009 at 10:02 pm
All teams that are out of the race play young guys, not just the Raiders. Those numbers are laughable. 3 catches? 4 catches? Must be kidding.
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Why do you think I give a rats ass what you think? You’re a complete dumb ass.
July 28th, 2009 at 10:07 pm
both JLH and Chaz that is
July 28th, 2009 at 10:08 pm
Who asked you Glenn? Talking Raiders here, bye bye.
July 28th, 2009 at 10:10 pm
At least JHill actually knows something about the Raiders.
July 28th, 2009 at 10:11 pm
Dude, are u serious? 3 or 4 catches a game is laughable. Well at least you weren’t silly enough to say a TD a game is laughable.
Well those laughable 3 or 4 catches project out to 64 catches a game, and 48 catches a game respectively. Just talking about SD, Jackson had 59 receptions, and Chris Chambers had 33.
July 28th, 2009 at 10:12 pm
# Dude Says:
July 28th, 2009 at 10:07 pm
Respect, sure. Fear, no way. I like bothe JHL and Chaz, neither are starting WRs on a good offense.
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Higgins is a 3rd year player. Shilens is a 2nd year player. By Almost every account every where, it takes WR’s at least 3-4 years to develop. So therefore, your statement is asinine. It Might be time for you to go back to doing what you do best Dud: short changing 99 year old women at your cashier job. What a loser.
July 28th, 2009 at 10:12 pm
“I’ve been instructed to keep everybody up”
Go Get’em Mike!! lol
I can wait to see MM and branch on the field. They have great size, speed, and they both like to hit. We added another pass rusher to help create more pressure on the QB, so our DBs can make more plays.
We added 2 more WRs in the draft, and both are 6′2 and can run.
We have 2 young RBs with big play ability.
We have a great young TE with PB talent.
We have a young QB with a cannon, and can but more time with his feet. He had 13TDs & only 8 INTs, and had 53% cmp rate. That was his 1st year as a starter.
I can’t wait!
July 28th, 2009 at 10:14 pm
# Dude Says:
July 28th, 2009 at 10:08 pm
Who asked you Glenn? Talking Raiders here, bye bye.
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No you are not talking Raiders. You are humiliating yourself by your ignorance. Of course everyone realizes the joke is on you. In other words Dud, we are NOT laughing with you, we are laughing AT YOU.
July 28th, 2009 at 10:14 pm
*Buy more time….
July 28th, 2009 at 10:15 pm
Dont have to project out. They both played 16 games. What they have 16 and 22 respectively? Love Raider fan who manipulate stats to stoke their wishful thinking fire.
July 28th, 2009 at 10:15 pm
# Raider O Says:
July 28th, 2009 at 10:12 pm
“I’ve been instructed to keep everybody up”
Go Get’em Mike!! lol
I can wait to see MM and branch on the field. They have great size, speed, and they both like to hit. We added another pass rusher to help create more pressure on the QB, so our DBs can make more plays.
We added 2 more WRs in the draft, and both are 6′2 and can run.
We have 2 young RBs with big play ability.
We have a great young TE with PB talent.
We have a young QB with a cannon, and can but more time with his feet. He had 13TDs & only 8 INTs, and had 53% cmp rate. That was his 1st year as a starter.
I can’t wait!
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You forgot the fact that they now have one more year of league experience. That can only help.
July 28th, 2009 at 10:16 pm
Respect, sure. Fear, no way.
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So again, with SDs DC “respecting” the Raider speed, he will be reluctant to “bring extra pressure”. He will respect said speed and not allow a LB or S to end up in single man coverage against it.
See Dude, that wasn’t such a bad session.
Now what happened to MR? It’s time for him to get back on the couch.
July 28th, 2009 at 10:16 pm
Where is BHP?
July 28th, 2009 at 10:18 pm
NFL wrs take 3-4 years to develop? 100% BS
July 28th, 2009 at 10:20 pm
Oak,
Exactly!
Cable likes being the Raiders HC. That alone is a huge improvement from last year.
Kittin was a joke!
I also didn’t forget about my boy Chaz ( Go Aztecs), or the man who scored 3 TDs as a punt returner.
I really can’t wait.
July 28th, 2009 at 10:21 pm
Ron Rivera is an excellent defensive coordinator. That was a very good pick up for the Discharge. As soon as they got rid of Ted Cotrell their season turned around. Good for them. It seems tho, that AJ Smith might have done what happens to alot of GM’s. He seems to have the Midus touch, and then things start going bad. They traded a bunch of draft pix for players, and now they have an older roster and some of the players they were counting on, such as Merriman, Weddle, Cromartie, have taken a step back. They needed to get over 2 years ago when they were 14-2. They didn’t. Sucks for them
July 28th, 2009 at 10:22 pm
# Dude Says:
July 28th, 2009 at 10:18 pm
NFL wrs take 3-4 years to develop? 100% BS
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You are right Dud. Name one WR that became a pro bowler his rookie season? Name one.
July 28th, 2009 at 10:22 pm
QBs, WR, and DBs ften need more time to adjust to the NFL than other positions.
July 28th, 2009 at 10:23 pm
Cuz guys like Andre Johnson, Dwayne Bowe, Randy Moss, Colston, Desean Jackson etc, etc really struggles their first 1 or 2 years. LOL!!!
July 28th, 2009 at 10:23 pm
# Oakglenn Says:
July 28th, 2009 at 10:22 pm
# Dude Says:
July 28th, 2009 at 10:18 pm
NFL wrs take 3-4 years to develop? 100% BS
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You are right Dud. Name one WR that became a pro bowler his rookie season? Name one.
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Where are you Dud?? On google??
July 28th, 2009 at 10:23 pm
*often
July 28th, 2009 at 10:24 pm
# Dude Says:
July 28th, 2009 at 10:23 pm
Cuz guys like Andre Johnson, Dwayne Bowe, Randy Moss, Colston, Desean Jackson etc, etc really struggles their first 1 or 2 years. LOL!!!
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None of those were pro bowlers their first year. Try again.
July 28th, 2009 at 10:24 pm
Awww, you went and messed it up. Ok 5 more minutes for you free of charge. MR must’ve went to the men’s room or something, so we have a little time.
You are the one who said 3 or 4 catches a game was laughable. I thought you might not realize what that actually meant. Maybe I misunderstood what you meant by laughable.
As for JLH and Chaz, again, we are talking about “picking up where they left off”. You do understand that concept, right? They were given the opportunity to start at the end of the season. For what ever reason, they got in there. And guess what, they performed. It’s a pretty simple question. Do you think they will continue to get better, or will they go backwards? If they can at least do what they did WHEN GIVEN THE OPPORTUNITY last year, then they could put up some laughable stats, right?
July 28th, 2009 at 10:24 pm
Randy Moss.
July 28th, 2009 at 10:25 pm
No, because the Raider offense as a whole wont do what they did the last, 3 games was it??
July 28th, 2009 at 10:26 pm
Those WRs are Not the Norm, they are the exception.
July 28th, 2009 at 10:27 pm
Who cares if they werent PBers? ALL had big years as rookies and 2nd year guys.
July 28th, 2009 at 10:28 pm
Raider O, shut up you dont know WTF your talking about. Stick to being a homer.
July 28th, 2009 at 10:29 pm
Moss wasnt a Pro Bowler???
July 28th, 2009 at 10:31 pm
D Bowe did well his rookie year too. I wanted him to drop to the 2nd RD. Imagine drafting him and JR in the same draft!!!
July 28th, 2009 at 10:32 pm
Dud, Andre Johnson had approximately 60 receptions in 4 of his first 5 years in the league. Bowe was slightly better his lst year. Moss did not have a great year until his 5th year when he had 100+ receptions. And he is a Hall of Famer. Colston was good his first two seasons but didn’t catch 50 balls last year. He was injured. And you are claiming Desean is a pro bowler?? Don’t think so. Shows what you know.
July 28th, 2009 at 10:32 pm
Chad Johnson, Torry Holt, Braylon Edwards, Fitzgerald, Boldin……
July 28th, 2009 at 10:33 pm
Good for you Talking Monkey, you can use insults.
Now go find a tree and yell some more.
July 28th, 2009 at 10:34 pm
# Dude Says:
July 28th, 2009 at 10:29 pm
Moss wasnt a Pro Bowler???
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Moss was. Moss is also a HOF player. Sure. Hall of Fame players are good. Man, you are a “genius” aren’t you dud.
July 28th, 2009 at 10:34 pm
Yeah take THAT! LMAO
July 28th, 2009 at 10:35 pm
Moss led the league in tds his rookie year and started in the Pro Bowl. All the guys I listed had big years as rookies. Never said Pro Bowl, as not going to the pro bowl dznt mean not having a good year. Wow, you REALLY know your stuff! LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!
July 28th, 2009 at 10:36 pm
A talking monkey can be fun, but all pets need a master.
July 28th, 2009 at 10:37 pm
” Moss didnt have a great year till his 5th year” Leading the NFL in TDs as a rookie isnt a great year? HUH??!
July 28th, 2009 at 10:39 pm
Andre Johnson- 66 and a grand as a rook
80 and a grand as a soph
Yep, 3-4 years.LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
July 28th, 2009 at 10:41 pm
Bowe- 70 and a grand as a rook
80 and a grand as a soph.
3-4 years!!!!!!!!
July 28th, 2009 at 10:42 pm
Have a great night Gents, you too talking monkey.
Later Nation.
July 28th, 2009 at 10:43 pm
Ocho Cincho did not even play his lst year. Holt had 50 receptions. Braylon Edwards had 32 receptions his lst year. Same with Fitgerald. Here since you have proven Dud, you have no idea what you are talking about let me repost what I said earlier:
# Dude Says:
July 28th, 2009 at 10:18 pm
NFL wrs take 3-4 years to develop? 100% BS
Dude Says:
July 28th, 2009 at 9:58 pm
4 catches a game?? Thats just dominant!!
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4 catches a game puts them RIGHT where these other so called GREAT receivers you list if you go over the whole season, which of course, they did not play. Once again, you have proven Dud, you don’t know about anything.
July 28th, 2009 at 10:46 pm
Braylon- Yr 2 62 and 800+ year 2
Wrs take 3-4 years to develop
July 28th, 2009 at 10:48 pm
Holt- 1200 yards year 2
WRs take 3-4 years to develop
July 28th, 2009 at 10:50 pm
Fitz- 60 for 800 and 8 tds as a rookie
100+ for 1600 and 10 year 2
WRs take 3-4 years to develop
July 28th, 2009 at 10:50 pm
# Dude Says:
July 28th, 2009 at 10:41 pm
Bowe- 70 and a grand as a rook
80 and a grand as a soph.
3-4 years!!!!!!!!
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I didn’t say they were not productive. But Those numbers are not mind boggling. Out of 30+ WR’s drafted in each draft, two or three have productive years. That’s a 10% rate that they are productive. One, in 150 reaches the pro bowl. That is less than 1%. Math is not your strong suit is it Dud??? But neither is thinking or talking or writing. Short changing old ladies is your strong suit.
July 28th, 2009 at 10:53 pm
See, Dud, Anquan Boldin had 100 receptions his lst year. But then slipped to 50 his 2nd. His third year he became what we call in life “consistent.” See. Receiver take 3-4 years to “consistently” post good numbers. I never said, a guy coming out of college can’t have a big year. Thank you for proving my point.
July 28th, 2009 at 10:53 pm
Whats the definition of “develop”? Funny how your using the Pro Bowl as a measuring stick for “developing”. I have never destroyed someone on this site like I just destroyed you. LOL!!!!!!
July 28th, 2009 at 10:54 pm
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July 28th, 2009 at 10:55 pm
Boldin as a rookie- 100 grabs
Boldin as a soph- 56………..in 10 games!!
LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Any more???
July 28th, 2009 at 10:58 pm
Oakglenn says ” Randy Moss didnt have a big year till year 5″
Moss as a rook- 70 1300 17 tds. LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
July 28th, 2009 at 10:59 pm
# Dude Says:
July 28th, 2009 at 10:53 pm
Whats the definition of “develop”? Funny how your using the Pro Bowl as a measuring stick for “developing”. I have never destroyed someone on this site like I just destroyed you. LOL!!!!!!
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Dud, you have completely PROVED my point. These guys, who just happen to be the VERY VERY VERY TOP players taken, (Edwards #3 overall, Fitzgerald #3 overall, Moss #17 overall,)were productive, but then took a couple of years to become pro bowlers and the top at their position. You are not much on thinking are you?
July 28th, 2009 at 11:00 pm
Oakglenn says ” Fitzgerald had like 32 receptions his rookie year.”
Fits as a rook- 60 800 8 tds. LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
July 28th, 2009 at 11:01 pm
Dud you still don’t get it do you??? Yeah, Dan Marino had a GREAT rookie year. What about the other 300 QB’s that were taken over a 15 year period?? Maybe 20 of them were good. That is not a very good percentage.
July 28th, 2009 at 11:02 pm
Dud, 50-70 receptions is average production. Not great, not bad. Having a 60 reception year is not something to retire with a bust in Canton. Still don’t get it??
July 28th, 2009 at 11:03 pm
You said 3-4 years. Didnt say EXCEPT first rders or any other exception. You dont know your ass from a hole in the wall and I just proved it without a shadow of a doubt.
July 28th, 2009 at 11:05 pm
You never said HOFer. Never said PBer. Said 3-4 years to develop. Your done bro, give it up. Everything you have said thus far is a joke.
July 28th, 2009 at 11:06 pm
Dude Says:
July 28th, 2009 at 10:58 pm
Oakglenn says ” Randy Moss didnt have a big year till year 5″
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Actually Dud, I said he did not have a GREAT year until year 5. He had very good years. He is a Hall of Fame player. In year 5 he started posting great numbers. thank you for misquoting me.
July 28th, 2009 at 11:07 pm
# Dude Says:
July 28th, 2009 at 11:03 pm
You said 3-4 years. Didnt say EXCEPT first rders or any other exception. You dont know your ass from a hole in the wall and I just proved it without a shadow of a doubt.
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See you don’t know sh** you dumb turd. You completely proved my point and you don’t even know it. And you misquoted me, to prove your point. You’re a liar and a fraud who doesn’t know jack sh**. You proved MY point. Anything else turd??
July 28th, 2009 at 11:07 pm
His rookie year wasnt great, eh?? How many 17 td seasons by a WR in the NFLs history? Let alone a rookie.
July 28th, 2009 at 11:08 pm
What about the other 200 WR’s that were drafted??? You named 5. One of which is a Hall of Famer. Not much on thinking are you Dud??
July 28th, 2009 at 11:09 pm
Must suck to be such a clown who knows nothing of what you speak. That was just too damn easy!! Where is Priest or Hayes, I need a challenge.
July 28th, 2009 at 11:10 pm
How many other HOF WR’s are there in the league? You have used one to prove your point. There are 160 WR’s in the league right now and you have used one, a future HOFer to prove your point. Stay out of the fast lane moron.
July 28th, 2009 at 11:10 pm
You mean the ones who suck? Or the ones who arent in the league?? The ones who never develop at all??
July 28th, 2009 at 11:11 pm
You said name 1 Pro Bowler? So I named 1.
July 28th, 2009 at 11:11 pm
See ya gook.
July 28th, 2009 at 11:11 pm
Dud, you proved my point. My complete point. Only you don’t get it. Every player you named became solid after their 3rd and 4th years. Sure, they had good years before, and there are literally hundreds of others you fail to mention. Sucks to be you.
July 28th, 2009 at 11:12 pm
run and hide. Gutless POS. Go run away.
July 28th, 2009 at 11:12 pm
Ok slant eye
July 28th, 2009 at 11:13 pm
Go cook some rice Fung Lee
July 28th, 2009 at 11:14 pm
Thank you for proving all my points dud. That you are a moron, gutless, and now it is time to go short chain some 99 year old lady. You probably run away from them too.
July 28th, 2009 at 11:15 pm
# Dude Says:
July 28th, 2009 at 11:13 pm
Go cook some rice Fung Lee
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So now you’re a racist POS. What a scum sucking piece of garbage you are. You are garbage.
July 28th, 2009 at 11:15 pm
Go back to China you funkn slant eye gook
July 28th, 2009 at 11:16 pm
Wow. Well, the good news is at least we all know that Dud is the lowest of the low. Dumb, unsophisticated, bumbling AND a racist. Next time he will probably admit to fondling 3 year old kids.
July 28th, 2009 at 11:16 pm
You fondle kids don’t you dud?? You do don’t you?? Admit it
July 28th, 2009 at 11:17 pm
Ill take a number 3 spicy with a side of Gyoza.
July 28th, 2009 at 11:17 pm
You probably fondle the neighbors kids don’t you dud??
July 28th, 2009 at 11:18 pm
# Dude Says:
July 28th, 2009 at 11:17 pm
Ill take a number 3 spicy with a side of Gyoza.
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You’re practicing for your new job taking orders?? You have to bus tables first. You’ll never make it. Bussing tables takes brains.
July 28th, 2009 at 11:19 pm
One day Dud, maybe you too can have a career at the take out window at Wendys. It’s your dream job I bet.
July 28th, 2009 at 11:21 pm
Where’d ya go Dud?? The neighbors 6 year old kid get outside for a second?
July 28th, 2009 at 11:21 pm
# Dude Says:
July 28th, 2009 at 11:15 pm
Go back to China you funkn slant eye gook
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Looks like I broke Dud’s brain.
July 28th, 2009 at 11:24 pm
If you are Asian then its a bad coincidence, doubt you are but whatever. Lookn to get banned, if you havent figured it out by now, spend WAYYYYY to much time at night messing with you numbnuts. Should be in bed.
July 28th, 2009 at 11:25 pm
Funk you mod!!
July 28th, 2009 at 11:26 pm
Mods you are all scumbags
July 28th, 2009 at 11:30 pm
For those of you following at home:
# Oakglenn Says:
July 28th, 2009 at 10:22 pm
# Dude Says:
July 28th, 2009 at 10:18 pm
NFL wrs take 3-4 years to develop? 100% BS
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You are right Dud. Name one WR that became a pro bowler his rookie season? Name one.
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# Dude Says:
July 28th, 2009 at 11:11 pm
You said name 1 Pro Bowler? So I named 1.
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Dud is right. So out of literally hundred and hundreds and hundreds of WR’s drafted or signed as college free agents in the last 15 years, one, a future Hall of Fame player, was a rookie pro bowler. The rest all took 3-4 years to develop. A handful of those players, had productive lst and 2nd years, and the remaining 99% took 3-4 years to develop. Thank you Dud, for proving my point.
# Dude Says:
July 28th, 2009 at 11:15 pm
Go back to China you funkn slant eye gook
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Looks like I broke Dud’s brain.
July 28th, 2009 at 11:31 pm
# Dude Says:
July 28th, 2009 at 11:24 pm
Lookn to get banned, if you havent figured it out by now, spend WAYYYYY to much time at night messing with you numbnuts. Should be in bed fondling babies.
July 28th, 2009 at 11:35 pm
I’ll be your Huckleberry, Dude/troll.
It’s a great night to be a Raiders fan. Isn’t it?!
Here, I’ll throw this out, since I know the “last 6-years” stuff will be thrown out anytime now…
When talking about how the Raiders young players ended last year…
Dude Says:
They were on the team the whole f in year. Why would you just pick the last few games?
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HYPOCRITE ALERT HYPOCRITE ALERT HYPOCRITE ALERT
Dude/troll — A Davis has been with the Raiders for “f in” decades — why would YOU just pick the last few years to judge him?
HYPOCRITE ALERT HYPOCRITE ALERT HYPOCRITE ALERT
Oh, yeah — DID EVERYBODY SEE THAT MR IS PREDICTING THE RAIDERS WIN 10-GAMES THIS YEAR?
July 28th, 2009 at 11:45 pm
# Dude Says:
July 28th, 2009 at 11:24 pm
Lookn to get banned, if you havent figured it out by now, spend WAYYYYY to much time at night messing with you numbnuts. Should be in bed fondling babies.
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Wow. Stupid, gutless, AND a child molester. “It’s the trifector baaaabbyy!!!!!!” -Dick Vitale
July 28th, 2009 at 11:46 pm
Math lesson for Dude/troll:
If you come up with 10 rookie “breakout” WR’s IN THE SAME YEAR (AND YOU WON’T, but let’s be generous)…
…compared to the HORDES of rookie WR’s drafted or invited to camps (180-200ish maybe?)…
…that means only about 5% (THAT’S F-I-V-E PERCENT) would be breakout receivers…and those are generous numbers, just to make it easy for you to understand.
But — you don’t even pick WR’s from ONE YEAR…you pick from all years, like all those guys broke-out together.
Dude/troll…arguing with padded “facts.” Way to improve on your credibility, after the boys (and a girl) knocked you around in here the past few days. Still no respect. Wonder why?
July 28th, 2009 at 11:47 pm
Repost (I’ll be posting this all throughout the season, so get used to it)
How important is week one for the Raiders?
Since 1996, every single year we’ve won our season opener, we went to the playoffs. Every year we’ve lost our opener, on the other hand, we did not go to the playoffs. 13 seasons.
The last season we went to the playoffs despite losing in week one: 1991. Nearly 20 years ago. (’95, on the other hand, we won our season opener, but failed to go to the playoffs)
What does this mean?
It means week one might as well be the Super Bowl for the Raiders. It means the Raiders just about NEVER rebound after losing week one.
It means that when the Raiders win week one, the momentum seems to carry them through the season.
Is Tom Cable thinking about this?
Does he realize that the Raiders, under Al Davis as owner, and the environment in which he fosters, will bring back that Raider tradition of finding ways to win if he can just get them to a week one victory?
Does he know what it takes to get a week one victory, where our opponent will come out playing their best game ever, despite how bad they are? (and in this year’s case, it won’t be a bad team…)
Does he understand the level of preparation it will take to beat the biggest Raider killers in the NFL in recent years, the San Diego Chargers? Is he thinking about this every waking moment?
WEEK ONE WIN, RAIDERS GO TO THE PLAYOFFS. WEEK ONE LOSS, THEY DON’T.
No matter how much hyperbole you follow a week one loss with, Tom, the season is over. You’ve lost the team. You’ve lost the locker room. Since 1991, Tom. That’s what’s on the line. Week one. Period. San Diego.
You guys know what I think is going to happen.
July 28th, 2009 at 11:51 pm
JMac — Your work in the past 10-days or so has been really great, by the way.
I speak for anyone with any sense at all — thanks for the great work.
Even if you’re not always right.
July 28th, 2009 at 11:52 pm
Oakglenn, it can’t be possible that every single Raider fan who doesn’t like Al Davis works at a fast food drive through.
Also, I’m not a 49er fan. Any responses to my actual post, I’m all ears. As Dude pointed out yesterday, you’re always insisting that we talk football, yet you never do. All personal insults, all the time, with you. I’ve noticed it for some time now but I have to thank Dude for reminding me of it. Oakglenn, you talk football in one comment for every 10 comments where you personally insult people.
July 28th, 2009 at 11:55 pm
Another thing, Oak, about the fast food thing…If I were looking for a job right now, and had to choose between a fast food job or an entry level job with the Oakland Raiders, it would be a tough choice. I’m not joking. Fast food would be a sobering experience, but I still don’t think it would be as embarrassing as working for the Raiders.
July 28th, 2009 at 11:58 pm
MR — Saw your bold prediction of the Raiders getting 10-wins this regular season! Bold is the word, alright.
I’d take that kind of improvement (until they lost, I’d take it, anyway)…I never thought I’d say this…
…way to fire-up the fans with your enthusiasm, MR!
July 29th, 2009 at 12:12 am
By the way, MR — Earlier you said something like we can’t run the ball — the Raiders just don’t run the ball?
Since the “Cable era” began, the team finished 10th (’08) and 6th (’07) in the NFL in rushing stats the two years.
Why are we just not going to be good this year? Just because you said so? Thought so.
July 29th, 2009 at 12:16 am
Oak, I have to admit while this wouldn’t be a popular opinion. I would lve to have Michael Vick, even with my passion to see Russell develope. I love the idea of Vick putting extra pressure on DC’s to devise gameplans to stop this offense. Vick would be a huge concern leading up to gameday. But I doubt very seriously that it would happen.
WR’s typically take about 3-4 years to figure it all out and reach their potential. Randy Moss was the Dan Marino of WR’s he had an incredible impact in year one. DHB could do 50% of that and have a great impact. Say 40 catches 650 yards and 6 td’s, I would do cartwheels for those #’s from DHB as a rookie.
MR knows football about as well as I know knitting which is what he’s great at. Tha Raiders wont run the ball??? if any DC in the NFL thinks the Raiders wont run the football. He should be fired on sight. That’s about as dumb as it gets. DMC, MBush and Fargas with the best FB to ever play and OO. Yeah!! we wont run!!
What a cement head.
July 29th, 2009 at 12:16 am
Oh, it’s been a great day (and night) to be a Raiders fan. Going to be busier tomorrow, too!
July 29th, 2009 at 12:22 am
RaidaDaze will only get better. HD37
July 29th, 2009 at 12:32 am
Hayez, glad to see you’re finally getting it. Glad you agree with me that the Raiders will probably lose week one, then likely lose 12 games this season overall. You used to be one serious kool aid drinker. Welcome to reality.
July 29th, 2009 at 3:15 am
# HayesDaze37 Says:
July 28th, 2009 at 11:35 pm
I’ll be your Huckleberry, Dude/troll.
It’s a great night to be a Raiders fan. Isn’t it?!
Here, I’ll throw this out, since I know the “last 6-years” stuff will be thrown out anytime now…
When talking about how the Raiders young players ended last year…
Dude Says:
They were on the team the whole f in year. Why would you just pick the last few games?
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HYPOCRITE ALERT HYPOCRITE ALERT HYPOCRITE ALERT
Dude/troll — A Davis has been with the Raiders for “f in” decades — why would YOU just pick the last few years to judge him?
HYPOCRITE ALERT HYPOCRITE ALERT HYPOCRITE ALERT
Oh, yeah — DID EVERYBODY SEE THAT MR IS PREDICTING THE RAIDERS WIN 10-GAMES THIS YEAR?
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exactly. HD37
some goes for MRs logic with the lose-first-game-you-dont-make-the-POs.
i thought the game changed, and past AD? so why are those different fukkin years relevant now?
just blinded by hate, and/or not being able to stand up to other teams fans in their REAL life i guess.
you can save yourself the time to c&p that BS MR.
July 29th, 2009 at 3:19 am
*unable
July 29th, 2009 at 3:21 am
no it is *able lol. im just doin too much isht at the same time lol, at least i’m tryin…
July 29th, 2009 at 3:38 am
about this time last year i was saying that i didn’t think anyone from the previous year’s receiving corps should be on the team…
i think, with the exception of JLH, i had that right…
this year the transition to an all new receiving corps will be completed… young, big, and fast…
the question now will be the line… can the o-line pass-block… i honestly believe Henderson can handle his part… against the top pass rushers he should get some help… otherwise i think he’ll be fine…
running backs… we have wheatley and garner… i mean we have bush and mcfaddon… i think bush is better than wheatley, and i think mcfaddon could be better then garner… the big question will be his turftoe problem… we got running back and we got fullback… and hopefully, fargas will not be the lead back…
russell sees that this is his team now… indications are he is now taking this seriously… he still reminds me of elway…
on defense we have some big questions…
at corner we are solid… really can’t ask for much more than we have…
i think we have enough competition in camp to find two really good safeties… i’m hoping for Huff and Mitchell…
linebackers have a problem… we did not bring in the run-stuffer we needed…
at defensive end we brought in like 32 people… i’m hoping Scott bulked up enough to be an every down player… on the other side i just hope it’s not burgess…
at defensive tackle is where the big problem is… in the past we simply did not have enough bodies in the rotation… and when your defense has a tendency to give up run yardage, then running the ball is what the offense will do…
and this means o-linemen driving into d-linemen over and over and over and over again… that is what will tire your tackles out more than anything…
i’m still unhappy over our DT situation… but if the offense can stay on the field and SCORE… then the defense will have a much easier time of it…
it really comes down to whether the offense get’s it done…
this team is built to run and score…
this team is built to stop aerial attacks…
so… we need to run, score, get a lead, pad that lead… and never look back…
during this season we will see what Russell has…
and that will occur in the 4th quarter when we need russell to step up and get us a win…
that’s when we’ll know whether we have a winner…
July 29th, 2009 at 5:35 am
They say fargas looked great yesterday he may go for 2 td this year lookout dmac and bush!
July 29th, 2009 at 5:37 am
Get vick just to jerk garcia around that would be funny we brought vick in to push jeff ha ha !
July 29th, 2009 at 5:50 am
i would rather see jeff george…
July 29th, 2009 at 6:07 am
GOOD MORNING SPORT’S FAN’S,NOMORE FARGAS,FLORIDA PETE,ALL THE USUAL SUSPECTS,MCFADDEN-VICK-BUSH-RUSSELL, HAS ANYONE EVER RAN THE WISHBONE IN THE NFL ? LOL
July 29th, 2009 at 6:15 am
– Michael Huff understands this is a hugely important training camp if he hopes to remain a Raider.
“Every year you’re fighting for a job but I guess this year is different, especially the way last year year ended and you never know the uncertainty of being here as far as training camp,” Huff said. “Hiram (Eugene) played well last year so I think this is really an open competition between us two. The best man is going to get the spot and so that’s all I can ask.”
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There. now will everyone PLEASE see the light?
#1 Huff is a FS, not a SS
#2 Huff is fighting Hiram Eugene for a starting job, not Branch or Mitchell
#3 the winner of Branch/Mitchell will be our starting SS
I wish the Huff haters would quit spewing nonsense to try and prove a point!
July 29th, 2009 at 6:19 am
I guess it got a little heated last night with throwing around racial slurs and all. MR brings up a good point about the opener though. IT IS THE BIGGEST GAME OF THE SEASON, right off the bat. I wish we had Denver again to be honest. We had better win that game, or at least LOOK competetive. If we do lose, it had better be in OT.
Good post MR, but if they DO win the opener it would mean a hell of alot no?
July 29th, 2009 at 6:20 am
Scott said he weighed 256 pounds and wasn’t shy about stating his goals.
“I want to start, I want to get double-digit sacks and just try to (defend the) run as well as I can,” Scott said.
Scott came to Oakland playing on the left side, but said he is now more comfortable on the right.
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woohoo! Trevor Scott is gonna be the next Jared Allen (minus the mullet and DUI’s …)
July 29th, 2009 at 6:22 am
Well if not enough bodies was the issue last year, then it looks like that won’t be a problem with 6 DTs in camp.
July 29th, 2009 at 6:26 am
Ok, you won’t hear me saying he’s a SS, but I still had him starting with Mitchell. The thing is the Tatum and Lott comparisons, and what they said on draft day. Big hitting FSs is what those guys were. Striking fear into the WRs coming over the middle is what I thought they said. That’s not going to happen from the SS position as that position is usually is some type of man coverage.
July 29th, 2009 at 6:27 am
I want to see MM hit B Marshall, then hit Royal the next play, and then hit Murphy on the sideline!
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LOL. Very Nice, Raider O!
July 29th, 2009 at 6:28 am
And Dude, you are a complete a$$ hole. I couldn’t believe some of the childish racist crap you were spitting in here. I now consider you to be in your own class of low-lives. You will never get an ounce of respect from me, so don’t engage me unless you are prepared to get a verbal hole punched in your neck….
-A true fan
July 29th, 2009 at 6:32 am
Vick won’t be in camp with anyone this summer. No team is stupid enough to go through such a PR nightmare. Despite what the Vick fans think, their numbers are far lower than the number of people who don’t want to do him back on the field of play.
Vick will not play in Oakland.
It’s time the NFL stopped allowing scum to infiltrate the league.
July 29th, 2009 at 6:32 am
Jhill: doesn’t the SS play down in the box and cover the TE on occasion?
I know the FS plays centerfield and helps in pass coverage. The most they do to “strike fear” comes in the form of a safety blitz or laying out a WR after the catch, possibly causing a fumble or incompletion
see Brian Dawkins for example. he’s not a run stuffing machine at FS.
we signed Gibril Wilson a year ago to help with the run defense at SS. He played down in the box and finished with over 100 tackles. We replaced him with M&M – was overpaid, disgruntled and often abused in pass coverage though. I don’t miss him, even though he might have been a player in John Marshall’s defense …
July 29th, 2009 at 6:33 am
Murphy…. Man he was a good pick. In a few years hopefully DHB, Murphy, and Chaz could be a dangerous trio of WRs. Can’t wait to see how they develope.
July 29th, 2009 at 6:35 am
to Vick or not to Vick?!?!?!?!?! THAT is the QUESTION?!?!?!?!?!?!
Maybe 5 years ago!!!!
The only reason I see Al Davis even giving Vick a look is if he hears about the offer the Donks or the Queens, have in on him…I could hear it now!
Al: So Denver offered him a contract? to play QB?!?!?!?!
Scout: yes, QB
Al: Well we Have Southwick already, But Vick is better than that Jerry Garcia kid……and If Denver got him….hmmmmm
Scout: So??? What sould we do?!?!?!
AL: Offer him 4 years 32.8 Mil with a 4 mil siging bonus back and incentive load the contract tho!!!
Scout: Should we talk to Cable?
Al: Who?????
This is a scary thought…….
BUT THIS ISNT!!!!
PLAYOFFBOUND!!!!!!!!
ahhh!!!1 good morning nation!!
July 29th, 2009 at 6:36 am
AZ Raider2 Says:
July 29th, 2009 at 6:28 am
And Dude, you are a complete a$$ hole. I couldn’t believe some of the childish racist crap you were spitting in here. I now consider you to be in your own class of low-lives. You will never get an ounce of respect from me, so don’t engage me unless you are prepared to get a verbal hole punched in your neck….
-A true fan
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rip his lips off !!!
July 29th, 2009 at 6:38 am
good morning NMF, Pete, Dirt Lot, AZ …
July 29th, 2009 at 6:39 am
good morning OAKlifer, 757, Jhill …
July 29th, 2009 at 6:41 am
“It’s time the NFL stopped allowing scum to infiltrate the league.”
757,
Come on bro thats alittle harsh dnt ya think? I mean dont get me wromg I own two dogs and treat them just like the kids “part of the fam” but he made a mistake and paid his dues he should be allowed to go back to work making a living doing what he does. you do the crime you do the time thats what we have the justice system in place for “not that it always works” But he paid his dues he should be able to come back. look @ football in the 60’s 70’s heck even the 80’s every one was on c@oke or steroids sleeping with everyone and parting so late on sat night they couldnt find the stadium on sunday…Im sure alot of those guysdidnt behave according ly but the product was great!! either way I hate dog fighting and I hate peta but I love football and every one desevres a second chance “Just not in Oakland”
PLAYOFFBOUND!!!!
July 29th, 2009 at 6:41 am
Branch/Mitchell lets finally gets some headhunters back on d tired of wr not paying the price for going over the middle the next time huff lights somebody up it will be the first time move him to db maybe he will be a stud nickel back cause he ain’t no safety.
July 29th, 2009 at 6:43 am
regarding Heyward-Bey’s contract:
tough place for DHB to be in.
rumors are that Crabtree wants to be paid like a Top 5 draft pick!
DHB’s agent will lobby for more money than Crabs will get. DHB may get 4th or 5th overall pick money if the players & agents get thier way. Good thing the Raiders aren’t desperate at WR. This power struggle could drag into preseason.
July 29th, 2009 at 6:45 am
moring Double R, 757, pete,nomo, jhill, AZ, hey AZ did you change your name??? AZ2?
and dnt worry bout duder, soon enough he will have to share the lap top with bobby, br!en,MR, or his mom its the only one they have and dial-up is a mutha fu@ker!!!! LOL
July 29th, 2009 at 6:48 am
AZ Raider2 Says:
And Dude, you are a complete a$$ hole.
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He’s being vvveerryy unduuuude…..
July 29th, 2009 at 6:48 am
“This power struggle could drag into preseason.”
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!
This would be a worse PR nightmare than Vick Plaeaseeeeeeeeee get this kid some cash and let him start working with our first unit he has already missed valuable time AHHHHH NOOOOO!!!!!
And F crabbypatty if he wanted top 5 $$$ he should have went top 5…maybe he should have gee idnt know un the forty and work out!!!! whodathunk?!!?!? what a primadonna already hasnt even suited up!!LOL I would rather have 53 Mike Mitchels than one Crabtree!!!!!!
July 29th, 2009 at 6:53 am
TAKE YOUR “UN-EARNED” AS YET SALERY WHERE YOUR SLOTTED, AND GET YOUR BUTT TO WORK, PLEEEESE…
July 29th, 2009 at 6:54 am
Well if not enough bodies was the issue last year, then it looks like that won’t be a problem with 6 DTs in camp.
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Kelly, Warren, Sands, Joseph, Boschetti & Bryant …
Let’s hope John Marshall & Dwayne Board can squeeze some milk out of these udders. I mean production. I’m assuming the systems & schemes have been fixed. These guys should know their assignments and execute. Due to Rob Ryan’s incompitance every one of these guys look like bozos out there. If they can’t improve to at least 20th vs the run I think 3 of the 4 players who actually make the 53 man roster will get axed next offseason.
July 29th, 2009 at 6:54 am
Wassup folks!
July 29th, 2009 at 6:55 am
my attitude is that if DHB doesn’t get signed within the next week…
don’t bother…
i think we just might have enough receiver without him…
oh, piss on crabtree… thank god al didn’t want him…
prima donna cry baby piece of schitt…
July 29th, 2009 at 6:57 am
If Condon and Al can quickly come to terms on Nnamdi and Lechler, then I don’t see a problem with DHB.
Crabbypatty? LMFAO!
His diva act won’t impact us at all. He’s going to hold out for more money than DHB gets, and it’s going to backfire on him.
July 29th, 2009 at 6:58 am
What’s up guys.
Oak, AZ2 is my home account.
July 29th, 2009 at 7:00 am
Wouldn’t it be funny if SF had to pay Crabman substantially more than DHB to please his ego?
July 29th, 2009 at 7:01 am
-get this kid some cash and let him start working with our first unit he has already missed valuable time
-TAKE YOUR “UN-EARNED” AS YET SALERY WHERE YOUR SLOTTED, AND GET YOUR BUTT TO WORK
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couldn’t agree more!
Let’s hope DHB doesn’t take the Russell approach “imma let mah agint do tha work. i be ther soun fanz”
take Sedrick Ellis’ contract from last year and tack on $1 million guaranteed. Sign it Bey Bey!
July 29th, 2009 at 7:02 am
It’s fukt how all these rookies are holding up all these camps this year. No matter how long this takes, we can’t point the finger at Darrius. Getting the contract right is important, just hope they decide to BE the standard rather than wait to follow it. Need to get ALL the rookies more reps.
July 29th, 2009 at 7:04 am
Wouldn’t it be funny if SF had to pay Crabman substantially more than DHB to please his ego?
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got Crabs? San Fran does …
yes TW. I think this will happen. write it down. you and Jhill called it
July 29th, 2009 at 7:08 am
McFadden signed by June 5th last year and he was 4th overall.
Why can’t Heyward-Bey at 7th overall be signed by July 28th?
July 29th, 2009 at 7:10 am
NoMoreFargas,
This year has to be about getting the best talent on the field. I am all for guys who are “warriors” and all the leadership stuff. But this year the Raiders have to get this talent they drafted on the field and playing.
They keep drafting these dynamic young players and then don’t really play them….opting for mediocre veterans with marginal production on the field. Just play the young guys….
DMAC, Bush, Henderson, McQuistan, JLH, Schilens, Scott, Branch, Mitchell….just let those guys get the majority of the snaps and move on.
If the Bryant kid puts Terdell to shame…then play the kid.
July 29th, 2009 at 7:13 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
July 29th, 2009 at 7:08 am
McFadden signed by June 5th last year and he was 4th overall.
Why can’t Heyward-Bey at 7th overall be signed by July 28th?
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D-HB is screwing himself if he’s not signed already. He was overdrafted by some 10 to 15 picks…he has no business holding out. He should just tell his agent to look at last yrs #7 and ask for a modest increase or more guaranteed.
If this kid isn’t in camp…he’s not going to play much in 2009. And like I said earlier…guys like Schilens, JLH and Murphy have the potential to be good enough to hold their positions for years to come
July 29th, 2009 at 7:16 am
S&B: you’re rooting for Tyvon Branch & Paul McQuistan?
based on what?
give me your opinion/projection. I know Cable quotes …
July 29th, 2009 at 7:17 am
Branch at SS over Mitchell?
McQuistan at LG until Gallery returns?
McQ as a 16 game starter at RG or RT?
July 29th, 2009 at 7:19 am
Like I said. The top 15 picks are tied intogether. It’s not the players fault if they aren’t signed. The agents and owners have to agree on a deal and when the 6th and 8th picks haven’t been signed it’s difficult to agree on numbers. I know as fans it suks, but it’s just the nature of the beast.
July 29th, 2009 at 7:23 am
The agents and owners have to agree on a deal and when the 6th and 8th picks haven’t been signed it’s difficult to agree on numbers.
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I can see Andre Smith holding out. Our hope is Eugene Monroe in Jax. Once again, I’m rooting for him this offseason. haha
July 29th, 2009 at 7:23 am
Rockstar,
I am saying this. Unless guys like Huff, Carlisle, Fargas, Javon Walker, Khalif Barnes, Hiram Eugene, Pears, Green, Burgess significantly outperform the young guys…then go with the youth.
The youth have upside and are learning as they go. The vets I listed above have reached their full potential and are either on a plateau or are in full decline.
Stop playing these marginal talents that produce nothing but forgetable games that result in losses. Give me the young guys over these mediocre vets.
July 29th, 2009 at 7:26 am
I forgot to add Jeff Garcia to the list above. Another mediocre veteran talent that produces a lot of forgetable games.
July 29th, 2009 at 7:26 am
you listed Carlisle, Green, Pears & Barnes.
McQuistan at LG until Gallery returns?
McQ as a 16 game starter at RG or RT?
July 29th, 2009 at 7:27 am
Good Morning NATION!!!
July 29th, 2009 at 7:28 am
Huff, Barnes and Eugene are still young.
July 29th, 2009 at 7:28 am
CRABBYPATTY LOL!!!
July 29th, 2009 at 7:29 am
So Javon Walker changed agents too and is now represented by Rosenhaus.
Walker should have given his agent a 50% of his contract. He has done NOTHING of note to date and is still injured from that knee.
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/07/29/walker-tries-to-change-luck-by-changing-representation/
July 29th, 2009 at 7:29 am
good morning 4eva!
Gabby, get this lad a plate for the breakfast buffet. put it on my tab …
whats up man? where’s LMN? the AM crew is complete!
July 29th, 2009 at 7:30 am
I agree with SnB
lets go with these high motor guys that are rookies,we already know what the vets can do,imo
July 29th, 2009 at 7:31 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
July 29th, 2009 at 7:26 am
you listed Carlisle, Green, Pears & Barnes.
McQuistan at LG until Gallery returns?
McQ as a 16 game starter at RG or RT?
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If he can match Carlisle in camp..put him in at RG.
If he can match the gang of RTs in camp….put him in at RT.
Not LG. Gallery will be back in due time. He’s a vet too…all he needs to do is stay in shape.
July 29th, 2009 at 7:31 am
S&B: he changed to Rosenhaus, just like Henderson & Murphy because they plan on tearing it up and getting a better contract asap.
July 29th, 2009 at 7:31 am
Good Morning 2 you Rockstar my BROTHER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
July 29th, 2009 at 7:32 am
AZ Raider2 Says:
July 29th, 2009 at 7:28 am
Huff, Barnes and Eugene are still young.
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Name me another team that would instantly slot these guys as starters AND feel good about it?
July 29th, 2009 at 7:32 am
WHERE’S NO MORE FARGAS???
July 29th, 2009 at 7:33 am
S&B: not sure if it was Cable or Kiffin, but last year in camp they only allowed McQ to compete on the left side of the line …
Let’s hope that has changed
July 29th, 2009 at 7:34 am
oh and thank-you very much 4 the exellent breakfast!!!
I OWE YOU ONE!!!
HELL WE ALL OWE YOU ONE 4 ALL DA EX INFO,IMHO!!!
July 29th, 2009 at 7:35 am
MAN THIS IS JUST SOOOOOOOOOOOOOO GREAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
YOU CAN TELL I MISS THE MOST IMPORTANT PEOPLE IN MY LIFE =)
July 29th, 2009 at 7:36 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
July 29th, 2009 at 7:31 am
S&B: he changed to Rosenhaus, just like Henderson & Murphy because they plan on tearing it up and getting a better contract asap.
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Henderson will be a competent starter this year (read average) and will show the upside that is deserving of a new contract.
Murphy just might be the #2 guy coming out of camp. He has the work ethic of a Justin Fargas…and the physical talent of Heyward-Bey. To be a team captain on a team with a leader like Tim Tebow has to say something about Murphy’s work ethic and leadership. He had no business going in the 4th round and the Raiders are lucky that given their draft strategy…he was still available.
Javon Walker? I don’t know…is he even healthy enough to practice?
July 29th, 2009 at 7:37 am
what did I miss about Gallery??? he is ok i hope
July 29th, 2009 at 7:38 am
he’ll be out at least 2 weeks 4eva.
emergency appendectomy (sp?)
July 29th, 2009 at 7:39 am
thanks Rockstar,per usuall (sp)
July 29th, 2009 at 7:39 am
Javon Walker? I don’t know…is he even healthy enough to practice?
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I’m sure Tom Cable will be asked that question today. If not, we’ll find out tomorrow, when training camp begins …
July 29th, 2009 at 7:41 am
4eva: glad to have you back, even if it’s only temporary (library)
you’re the Nnamdi of this blog!
July 29th, 2009 at 7:42 am
question…
if terdell sands and crabtree played on the same team,would we have a sandy-crabby-patty-cake???
as you all know sands loves 2 play patty-cake with opposing line-men!!!
July 29th, 2009 at 7:43 am
those are some pretty big shoes 2 fill in my condition,age 50 =)
July 29th, 2009 at 7:44 am
Morning 4eva!!! WhaTS good??? wow the 21 of the blog ur a shut down blogger 4eva !!!! now thtas a compliment!!
July 29th, 2009 at 7:44 am
BUT SERIOUSLY I hope sands blows it up this year,Lord knows he has da tools!!!
July 29th, 2009 at 7:45 am
“as you all know sands loves 2 play patty-cake with opposing line-men!!!”
And loves getting beat like a fat kid loves cake!!!
July 29th, 2009 at 7:45 am
hey OAKlifer!!!
I feel honered and REALLY SCARED now
July 29th, 2009 at 7:46 am
192 lolololololololololololololololololol
July 29th, 2009 at 7:47 am
if terdell sands and crabtree played on the same team,would we have a sandy-crabby-patty-cake???
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trade Sands, Burgess, Fargas, Walker & Walter to SF for Patrick Willis.
Let’s find out!
July 29th, 2009 at 7:49 am
Rockstar is having some fun and it’s all good!!!
maybe by sept. I can have a land line installed at new house,cause my lap-top has only what-ever you call it(remember I am NOT computer savvy)and I live in a dead zone in da sticks =)
July 29th, 2009 at 7:52 am
still laughing at 192 cause I always get good visuals =)
July 29th, 2009 at 7:54 am
# RaiderRockstar Says:
July 29th, 2009 at 7:47 am
if terdell sands and crabtree played on the same team,would we have a sandy-crabby-patty-cake???
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trade Sands, Burgess, Fargas, Walker & Walter to SF for Patrick Willis.
Let’s find out!
and maybe we could persaude Singeltary 2 play MLB!!!
July 29th, 2009 at 7:56 am
OO might be back? That is fuggin awesome!
DHB might hold out? That is fuggin aggravating!
Tom Cable hasn’t been fired yet? That is too fugin bad…
July 29th, 2009 at 7:57 am
sup Dakota???? glad 2 see you!!!
July 29th, 2009 at 7:58 am
Dakota Says:
July 29th, 2009 at 7:56 am
OO might be back? That is fuggin awesome!
YEP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
July 29th, 2009 at 7:59 am
Hey 4eva…are you back in now?
July 29th, 2009 at 7:59 am
WELL LATER NATION BE BACK WHENEVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
July 29th, 2009 at 8:00 am
WAIT, not totally maybe by sept I have ds cash 2 run a land linembut I trying!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
July 29th, 2009 at 8:02 am
I still got 10 mins left
man this sucks but it beats the hell out of the alternative,imo
July 29th, 2009 at 8:02 am
See you soon 4eva.
July 29th, 2009 at 8:03 am
thanks Dakota see ALL YOU SOON
July 29th, 2009 at 8:04 am
TTFN eva
July 29th, 2009 at 8:06 am
DID yu guys know that jim johnson ( D coord Philly) past away the football world lost a great!!!!! RIP thoughts go out to friends and family….
July 29th, 2009 at 8:13 am
WOW, Vick trying out for the Oakland Raiders! What does this say about Al’s faith in Russell?
http://espn.go.com/vick-visit-oakland
July 29th, 2009 at 8:15 am
Good Morning Nation, Raccoon, OAK, RR, Dakota, 4eva, AZ, and SnB.
July 29th, 2009 at 8:18 am
Jim Johnson passed away!!!!
I knew he was sick, but I thought he was going to coach this season.
RIP JJ, and god bless you and your family.
July 29th, 2009 at 8:23 am
Dakota Says:
July 29th, 2009 at 8:13 am
SHAME on you Dakota!!!!!!! Or SHAMe on me for clicking one of the two!!!!
goodmorning!
O,
good morning bro!!
July 29th, 2009 at 8:23 am
Not Found: http://espn.go.com/vick-visit-oakland
The URL you requested does not exist, but you may be interested in the content below.
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Apparently not.
July 29th, 2009 at 8:24 am
I still can’t believe it. Cancer! We do need a cure for that and HIV.
Some think we found a cure for HIV, but we didn’t. We have meds to slow it or keep it at HIV. That’s not a Cure.
July 29th, 2009 at 8:24 am
Jerry tweet update
Jerrymcd~
Drew Rosenhaus tweets that Javon Walker is back in the fold as a client . . . should know by the weekend how much Walker has left.
July 29th, 2009 at 8:25 am
Jim Johnson was a great coach and a great man.
He is survived by his wife, Vicky; a son, Scott; and a daughter, Michelle, and four grandchildren.
please pray for the family
July 29th, 2009 at 8:27 am
good morning Raider O, Dirty, Dakota …
July 29th, 2009 at 8:29 am
Good morning TW.
Too bad about JJ, I liked him a lot as a DC. We was a top 5 DC IMHO.
July 29th, 2009 at 8:30 am
We was a top 5 DC IMHO.
Best in the bizz no doubt!!!!
He was the best blitzer and play caller of the last decade the Eagles D was every where all the time!!!!!
July 29th, 2009 at 8:32 am
*he was…
Do the Eagles have a backup who can take over, or are they going to hire a new DC?
I think AZ picked them to go to the SB.
July 29th, 2009 at 8:32 am
Walker’s status with the Raiders is uncertain. He’s not expected to be fully ready for the start of training camp, and there is some thought that he won’t even make the team.
With that said, the starting job opposite Chaz Schilens is wide open. Oakland has sunk a lot of money into Walker and a big training camp could allow them to recoup their investment.
If not, Rosenhaus may be looking for a new deal for Walker faster than they both hope.
-PFT
July 29th, 2009 at 8:35 am
WOW, South Dakota has decided to pump up their tourist revenue by not only legalizing gay marriage but also allowing gay tourists to have their way with the livestock:
http://reuters.com/southdakota_is_one_big_bathhouse
July 29th, 2009 at 8:37 am
Mornin O, RR, Oak, Dakota
July 29th, 2009 at 8:38 am
lol, Mornin Bo
July 29th, 2009 at 8:40 am
My top 5 DCs:
1- Dick L
2- Tony D
3- B Ryan
4- JJ
5- M Kiffin
July 29th, 2009 at 8:44 am
Who is McDermott??
July 29th, 2009 at 8:44 am
Gunther Cunningham
July 29th, 2009 at 8:46 am
Those are the best that I have watched.
July 29th, 2009 at 8:48 am
15.
Where do people come up with these stupid arguments. Because so and so didn’t workout (corner back) it’s not going to work out for this other so and so (quarterback).
Wow, I’m simply dumbfounded by your, “football acumen.”
July 29th, 2009 at 8:48 am
Raccoon,
He didn’t make my top 5. Sorry lol
July 29th, 2009 at 8:49 am
Ravens open camp with 9 players on the PUP list
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I wonder how many Oakland will have?
July 29th, 2009 at 8:49 am
muhahahaha
July 29th, 2009 at 8:50 am
Eric McDermott’s rise to defensive coordinator for the Eagles are no surprises, hmmmmm
July 29th, 2009 at 8:52 am
Wow, breaking news about the Michigan Wolverines:
They will suck this year!!!
http://wolverines_will_suck_big_time_and_get_killed_by_ND
July 29th, 2009 at 8:52 am
I’ll ask again, who is McDermott?
July 29th, 2009 at 8:53 am
Mich S@cks!!!!!!
Go Buckeyes!!!!!!
July 29th, 2009 at 8:55 am
My bad!!! here it is O,
Nice write up on Sean McDermott…
http://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/eagles_files/html/coach_mcdermott_1.html
July 29th, 2009 at 8:55 am
Plaxico to testify today …
FREE PLAX!
July 29th, 2009 at 8:55 am
Hey, didn’t Al Davis once turn away Jim Johnson as DC for the Raiders? Along with other notable snubbs like Dungy and Belichick?
July 29th, 2009 at 8:57 am
I’ll ask again, who is McDermott?
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Sean McDermott was the Eagles DB’s coach
he got many DC interviews this offseason!
July 29th, 2009 at 8:57 am
Raider O Says:
July 29th, 2009 at 8:48 am
Raccoon,
He didn’t make my top 5. Sorry lol
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Probably not top 5 all time, but I like to watch his D.
July 29th, 2009 at 8:58 am
I hate Mich!!!!!
The Ohio State University will destroy them this year.
July 29th, 2009 at 8:59 am
Plaxico actually believes he can go into a grand jury and talk his way out of the charges? Now that is some self-confidence! I guess he has nothing to lose since they have a great case against him….might be his only shot (no pun intended)…I give him a .00025% shot at actually accomplishing anything by doing so…
July 29th, 2009 at 8:59 am
didn’t Al Davis once turn away Jim Johnson as DC for the Raiders? Along with other notable snubbs like Dungy and Belichick?
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in all fairness, they didn’t have “Raider speed” …
July 29th, 2009 at 9:01 am
in all fairness, they didn’t have “Raider speed” …
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sigh……
July 29th, 2009 at 9:02 am
WOW, who would have thought Lamar Odom would try baseball? Are the Cubs really this desperate?
http://www.chicagotribune.com/Odom_likes_him_some_cubbies
July 29th, 2009 at 9:03 am
RR,
LMAO!!!!
Thx for the link OAK. Their DBs have been doing well the last few years, so that’s an indication of good coaching. Can he do what JJ did? That D won a lot of games for them, and helped them win with DM and Westbrook.
July 29th, 2009 at 9:03 am
Oakland is hoping to finalize a deal with receiver Darrius Heyward-Bey before practice begins Thursday. Heyward-Bey was the seventh pick in the draft and is being counted on to help boost the Raiders passing game.
http://sports.cbs5.com/fb/story.asp?i=20090729021610980000101&ref=rec&tm=&src=NFL
July 29th, 2009 at 9:04 am
Raider O Says:
July 29th, 2009 at 8:58 am
I hate Mich!!!!!
The Ohio State University will destroy them this year.
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WHAT?!?! Michigan had the most prominent Arab ever in football – kicker Ali Haji-Sheikh
Don’t sleep on your bedouin brothers now O…
July 29th, 2009 at 9:05 am
KK, this one is for you! Sink your teeth in and enjoy!:
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By Monte Poole
Oakland Tribune columnist
Updated: 07/29/2009 05:26:36 AM PDT
THEIR LEADER had handed them few lines to cling to, a reason to believe, a sliver of hope for those who had not given up.
There was, this time, reason for faith.
It was last September, after the unforgettable news conference in which coach Lane Kiffin was fired, that Raiders boss Al Davis was asked if he thought the organization had a need for another football executive.
His words at the time: “Yes.”
His actions in the 10 months since: “No.”
Despite clearly stating he saw the wisdom in having another high-powered football brain in the building, there is no evidence Davis recruited any such individual.
In short, Al decided to ignore his own advice.
So it was that the Raiders offseason ended Tuesday, signaling another year during which the fondest wish of their fans again went unanswered.
As they enter training camp with legitimate concerns about defending the run and reaching the end zone and the maturity and commitment of their young franchise quarterback, the biggest barrier to success remains in place, as stubborn and imposing as ever.
For all of Al’s assets, his liabilities continue unimpeded, without the challenge that might be provided by a respected voice of reason.
And, no, bringing in journeyman offensive minds Paul Hackett and Ted Tollner does not qualify. They’re coaches, and Davis claimed to have his eyes on someone “local” who would assume much greater authority.
“There’s one guy I’m looking at now,” he said then. “It would be an executive role.”
This dramatic move would come during the offseason, Davis said. When former Raiders coach John Madden retired from broadcasting, it naturally led to speculation that the East Bay resident might rejoin the organization.
Well, the rumors about Madden were, by all appearances, unfounded. Fired Detroit Lions executive Matt Millen, a former Raider, went into TV. And Ron Wolf, the most successful personnel exec in Raiders history, ain’t comin’ back.
Wolf is the template for the unfilled position. He worked under Davis for 23 years, from 1966-75 and 1978-90 and shares responsibility with Davis for the glory years of yore. Wolf had Al’s ear, which led to the drafting of such stars as Art Shell, Gene Upshaw, Jack Tatum, Kenny Stabler, Howie Long, Marcus Allen and Millen. Davis was not sold on some of those players, certainly not Stabler.
Indeed, to chart a graph of Raiders history is to discover that the highs and lows closely coincide with periods when Wolf was or was not on the payroll.
In the 18 seasons since Wolf’s last departure — he went to Green Bay, where he quickly replaced Lindy Infante with Mike Holmgren, traded for a Falcons backup quarterback named Brett Favre and signed a free agent named Reggie White — the Raiders are 34 games under .500 (127-161), with four 10-win seasons.
Putting that into perspective, they’re behind the Broncos, behind the Chargers and behind even the Chiefs.
And it’s not because Davis, 80, has not been trying. His search for answers is constant and sometimes mimics desperation.
But the search also has been narrow, confined to those more inclined to comply than complement.
After the disasters of recent seasons, beginning with Al’s recruitment of Tom Walsh from a rural bed-and-breakfast inn to run the offense in 2006, to the odd hire of USC assistant Kiffin in 2007 to the fury and panic evident in the spending spree of last offseason, it was conceivable that Davis had reached a point where he could accept someone capable of protecting him from his worst instincts.
Even Al concluded as much, only to be overruled by his ego, according to people who deal with him regularly.
So the sweating and grunting this week in Napa comes after a relatively uneventful offseason. Tom Cable is back, as secure as any Raiders coach can be. Draft picks were more curious than breathtaking. Signings were more calculated, requiring much less of the checkbook. Hackett and Tollner and new defensive coordinator John Marshall are pros but hardly exciting additions.
No, the most potentially exciting addition to the Raiders is as elusive as ever. No matter how hard the players work in the coming weeks or how badly the fans want to win, real change is ever more difficult to visualize.
July 29th, 2009 at 9:07 am
Coach: hello Mr. Davis, I’m interested in being the Raiders DC.
Mr. Davis: hmmmm ok, what’s your name again? Oh yeah!! Now get on the field and run a 40!!
Coach: ?!?!?
LMAO
July 29th, 2009 at 9:07 am
Dakota: don’t leave the door open, you’ll let flies in!
can’t you save a loaded post like that for the PM crew?
July 29th, 2009 at 9:09 am
I had to do it! Couldn’t help myself!
July 29th, 2009 at 9:10 am
Raider O: maybe thats what Al Davis meant when he said that the choice for HC was close?
Tom Cable had a better forty time than Kevin Gilbride, but it was close…
haha. ya think?
July 29th, 2009 at 9:11 am
Hey, those who follow Sarah Palin, they have a new computer program called Quitter!!!
http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/mon-july-27-2009/quitter
July 29th, 2009 at 9:12 am
In the 18 seasons since Wolf’s last departure — he went to Green Bay, where he quickly replaced Lindy Infante with Mike Holmgren, traded for a Falcons backup quarterback named Brett Favre and signed a free agent named Reggie White — the Raiders are 34 games under .500 (127-161), with four 10-win seasons.
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Pathetic Raider Fan says: but, but, but, how many other teams have had 4 ten win seasons during the same time?!?!?! And a blow out loss in a SB!?!?! Beat that Detroit Lions!!!!
July 29th, 2009 at 9:13 am
BSJ,
LMAO
I know. They had a DT/ DE who was Arab. I’m still looking for an Arab to make the NFL.
I could have done it with my great size, speed, and hairy body!
July 29th, 2009 at 9:16 am
RR,
You sure he didn’t say ” close race”.
July 29th, 2009 at 9:17 am
Vick?
Maybe for the veteran minimum.. He will only be involved in maybe 4 or 5 plays a game at this point..
Also have to consider he is in no way physiacally or mentally ready to play football.
He isn’t ready to come right into a summer camp and prepare for a season. He won’t play until next season IMO. He will be 31 at that point and you have to wonder at what point his amazing athleticism declines or becomes much less effective.
Just stay away from Michael Vick. Not that he would be bad for us but he just wouldn’t be a whole lot of good either.
July 29th, 2009 at 9:19 am
” I was instructed to keek everybody up”
Mitchell.
I can’t wait for pre season, this guy is going to hurt somebody!
I love it!
July 29th, 2009 at 9:21 am
the Clippers traded Zach Randolph for Quentin Richardson, then basically gave him away for Sebastian Telfair, Craig Smith and Mark Madsen ???
LOL. that’s sad!
July 29th, 2009 at 9:21 am
Raider O Says:
July 29th, 2009 at 9:13 am
BSJ,
LMAO
I know. They had a DT/ DE who was Arab. I’m still looking for an Arab to make the NFL.
I could have done it with my great size, speed, and hairy body!
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Raider O,
Haji-Sheikh had a good pro career:
Ali S. Haji-Sheikh (born January 11, 1961 in Ann Arbor, Michigan) is a former American football placekicker for the University of Michigan and for three National Football League teams. Haji-Sheikh spent three seasons playing for the New York Giants. He had a superb rookie season, kicking 35 of 42 field goals (83%). A recurring hamstring injury hampered the rest of his career. He holds the Giants record for longest made field goal at 56 yards.
Haji-Sheikh then played on the Washington Redskins’ 1987 championship team, kicking six extra points and missing one field goal in Super Bowl XXII. He was also a member of the 1984 NFC Pro Bowl team kicking one field goal and adding six extra points in the game.
Haji-Sheikh finished his career with 76 of 111 field goals (68%), and 95 of 103 extra points, giving him 323 total points.
July 29th, 2009 at 9:21 am
Raider O, I sure wouldn’t want to be keeked by him!!
July 29th, 2009 at 9:22 am
jerry Mac hit us with a tweet b4 Dwhite did!!!! He is getting the hang of this thing!!!!! Jerry let us know tabout Walker and his date drew b4 Dave did!!!GOOD WORK JERRY
HIP HIP HORRAY!!!!!
Wait can we say hip on a Raider blog??????
July 29th, 2009 at 9:24 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
July 29th, 2009 at 9:21 am
the Clippers traded Zach Randolph for Quentin Richardson, then basically gave him away for Sebastian Telfair, Craig Smith and Mark Madsen ???
LOL. that’s sad!
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I love to see any LA team drudging through Portland’s bad decisions!!!!!
LOL @ Telfair and Randolph
July 29th, 2009 at 9:25 am
Who cars about Vick doesn’t camp open today!
July 29th, 2009 at 9:29 am
Haji-Sheikh finished his career with 76 of 111 field goals (68%), and 95 of 103 extra points, giving him 323 total points.
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Then went on to have a great carrer in wrestling as the IRON SHIEK….(I think)
July 29th, 2009 at 9:31 am
OAKlifer: hey you guys got Andre Miller
as a 76ers fan, I must say CONGRATS. he’s a baller
we didn’t need him. We got young talent that needs minutes to develop
July 29th, 2009 at 9:33 am
# OAKlifer Says:
July 29th, 2009 at 9:24 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
July 29th, 2009 at 9:21 am
the Clippers traded Zach Randolph for Quentin Richardson, then basically gave him away for Sebastian Telfair, Craig Smith and Mark Madsen ???
LOL. that’s sad!
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I love to see any LA team drudging through Portland’s bad decisions!!!!!
LOL @ Telfair and Randolph
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A Portland fan?? Well, damn, I thought I was the only Blazer fan outside of OR…
Gotta love how they are looking this year!
Now if they can just ship Outlaw, we will be set
July 29th, 2009 at 9:35 am
I wonder if Allen Iverson will go to the Clippers or Heat?
July 29th, 2009 at 9:39 am
has Miami officially signed Odom yet?
July 29th, 2009 at 9:41 am
A Portland fan?? Well, damn, I thought I was the only Blazer fan outside of OR…
Gotta love how they are looking this year!
Now if they can just ship Outlaw, we will be set
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Outlaw is a stud and will be the 6th man of the year this year watch!!!!
GOOO BLAZERS!!!!!
LOL @ my LA comment then Double R tells me about miller is this true DoubleR???
July 29th, 2009 at 9:42 am
Nope Rockstar…I am still holding out hope for Lamar and the Lakers…if he wanted to go to the Heat he would have already signed the deal with them since it can’t really be negotiated upwards…so Dr. Buss, just throw an extra million at Lamar and get him re-signed already!
July 29th, 2009 at 9:44 am
You didn’t know that Oaklifer? You didn’t notice that your team signed a very good PG? Shame on you…SHAME!!!
July 29th, 2009 at 9:44 am
Double R tells me about miller is this true
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yeah. you didn’t hear that Andre Miller signed a 3 year deal with Portland?
July 29th, 2009 at 9:44 am
The Trail Blazers have offered Andre Miller a two-year contract with a team option for a third year, a source close to the process said Friday.
WOW geuss so that is much needed vet presence at the 1 spot hope this works out takes almost all our cap tho?!?! hmmmmmmm Trade in the works probly ohhhwellll lets pritch slap somebody!!!!!
July 29th, 2009 at 9:46 am
The Trail Blazers have offered Andre Miller a two-year contract with a team option for a third year, a source close to the process said Friday.
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From NBA.com transactions page:
Friday, July 24 – Portland signed guard Andre Miller to a three-year deal
July 29th, 2009 at 9:47 am
You didn’t know that Oaklifer? You didn’t notice that your team signed a very good PG? Shame on you…SHAME!!!
Yes SHAME on me WTF 4 DAYS AGO?!?!?!?!?! how could I miss this!!!!!
My fanhood will be sleeping on the couch tonight if the wifey finds this out!!!!!!!
GOOOOOO BLAZERSSSSSSS!!!!
and for my buddy Dakota
HEY LAMAR get your head outta yer arse and Sign a deal that will net you another ring you have plenty of Candy money you could buy Mr. C’s DO IT!!!! NOW!!!!
July 29th, 2009 at 9:47 am
He is already signed, sealed and delivered Oaklifer:
Miller targets critics
FORMER SIXERS GUARD Andre Miller says he is out to prove the critics wrong – again.
This time, his targets are the critics who are underwhelmed with Portland’s decision to sign Miller to a 3-year contract that could be worth as much as $21 million.
“I don’t really care what they think,” Miller said in a radio interview on 95.5 The Game in Portland. “They probably didn’t want me in Philadelphia when I got moved there and there was no expectations when I got traded for Allen Iverson, so I mean, I went into that situation and pretty much proved the critics wrong. I helped the team get to the playoffs and definitely could have helped the team get to the second round – we were close to getting to the second round for 2 years.
“So, I can’t worry about what’s going on off the court as far as critics, or whether it was a good or bad move. I think people will see that I’m a hard worker and I definitely make people better, I make people around me better.”
Miller also said with the Trail Blazers that he will just try to “blend in,” unlike what was asked of him with the Sixers.
“I feel coming into a situation I won’t have to do as much,” he said. “When I was in Philadelphia, they relied on me to get the ball up the court, forcing the issue . . .
“In order for the team to win we had to fastbreak, and if we didn’t fastbreak, we struggled.
“So, just me coming to the team I can go back to some of my old-school ways as far as passing, moving without the ball, cutting, and spacing, and things like that. It’s gonna be a challenge, but I’m looking forward to it.”
- Phil Jasner
July 29th, 2009 at 9:48 am
# OAKlifer Says:
July 29th, 2009 at 9:41 am
A Portland fan?? Well, damn, I thought I was the only Blazer fan outside of OR…
Gotta love how they are looking this year!
Now if they can just ship Outlaw, we will be set
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Outlaw is a stud and will be the 6th man of the year this year watch!!!!
GOOO BLAZERS!!!!!
LOL @ my LA comment then Double R tells me about miller is this true DoubleR???
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They need to trade Outlaw.. He is on an expiring contract and he just log jams the minutes @ SF.
Batum and Webster should get the majority minutes @ the 3. Get rid of Trout!!
I don’t feel comfortable giving him minutes at PF, we have Pendergraph and I think he will fill that role just fine even if he IS a rookie.
July 29th, 2009 at 9:48 am
The biggest issues for the Raiders according to CBS:
1. Run Defense – Says all our opponents will come at the Raider run D.
2. Michael Huff – Say he is fighting for a roster spot and could get cut
3. Russell vs. Garcia – Say mid-August could get intense.
Video is half way down on the webpage
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/teams/page/OAK
July 29th, 2009 at 9:51 am
Dakota Says:
July 29th, 2009 at 9:42 am
Nope Rockstar…I am still holding out hope for Lamar and the Lakers…if he wanted to go to the Heat he would have already signed the deal with them since it can’t really be negotiated upwards…so Dr. Buss, just throw an extra million at Lamar and get him re-signed already!
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Odom is now a Cub…
July 29th, 2009 at 9:52 am
Batum and Webster should get the majority minutes @ the 3. Get rid of Trout!!
Webster hasnt played a full season since he’s been in the leauge….at this point outlaw is a better option than Martell……..
July 29th, 2009 at 9:53 am
GOOO CUUUUBS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
July 29th, 2009 at 9:57 am
sign Miller to a 3-year contract that could be worth as much as $21 million.
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$7 million per year for Miller? Portland better beat Utah & Denver this year in the NW! that’s not cheap!
July 29th, 2009 at 9:58 am
Dakota Says:
July 29th, 2009 at 9:47 am
He is already signed, sealed and delivered Oaklifer:
Thanks Dakota,
I have been REAL busy but Im surprised I didnt even see this on espnnews or espn.com…its been all work and Raider blog during day and yard work and grind during night we are putting in a poll and a deck …..and now Im missing important news I need some on in marketing to write me a proposal to my boss on why it would benifit the company to have me do some Basketball/genral sports research during day!!!
July 29th, 2009 at 10:06 am
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Theres one for ya teabag!!!!!!!
July 29th, 2009 at 10:07 am
OAKlifer Says: Your comment is awaiting moderation.
WTF it was a symbol and a bloggers name….one thats still here…..hmmmmmm
July 29th, 2009 at 10:07 am
# RaiderRockstar Says:
July 29th, 2009 at 9:57 am
sign Miller to a 3-year contract that could be worth as much as $21 million.
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$7 million per year for Miller? Portland better beat Utah & Denver this year in the NW! that’s not cheap!
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Its not bad either considering he is essentially signed for only 2 years.
Also, the 9 mil on the cap from D Miles comes off next year..
They are a 54 win team without Miller… He definitely makes them better.
July 29th, 2009 at 10:07 am
Clippers:
Marcus Camby
Baron Davis
Ricky Davis
Blake Griffin
Chris Kaman
Al Thornton
Allen Iverson
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Wow. they might be the best team in L.A. next year!!!
July 29th, 2009 at 10:08 am
Odom would have a huge strike zone….hopefully he is a pitcher Bo…
July 29th, 2009 at 10:08 am
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July 29th, 2009 at 10:10 am
It won’t matter where Iverson goes he’s a looser and he will continue to loose where ever he plays
July 29th, 2009 at 10:10 am
Chazz and JLH have a ways to go.
The great debate about them is missing a little bit.
If Chazz averages 3-4 catches a game for 16 games he ends up with 48-64 catches. 64 catches makes him the 32nd best last year. Less than 55 catches he doesn’t get in the top 50.
Laughable? No. But outside this sorry team, he is not a “weapon to be feared”.
I like Chazz and JLH but the writing is on the wall when the team drafts TWO WRs in the first 4 rounds. Like Herry pointed out in the WR piece, these guys combined for 15 frickin catches last year. Even when they weren’t starting they both got playing time ALL SEASON. Kiffin was still coaching when JLH had his big TD versus Buffalo so the, “It’s the coaches” crying is bull. If you can’t beat out Lelie you don’t deserve to play.
Our QB and WRs need to improve vig-time.
July 29th, 2009 at 10:12 am
Do the Miami Heat have any decent players other than Udonis Haslem, Jermaine O’Neal & Dwyane Wade ???
They need Lamar Odom!
July 29th, 2009 at 10:15 am
these guys combined for 15 frickin catches last year
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re: Higgins & Schilens
didn’t JLH get 22 catches by himself last season? I know, I know … still not mind blowing or starter quality numbers, but he definately has “Raider speed”
July 29th, 2009 at 10:15 am
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Hey COW,
Good asessment they may be big strong and fast but we also need them to catch between 65-80 balls a year to go along with a tru number one if we FIND one on our roster….this is an underlining issue we have all been avoided two WR in the first 4 rounds means we might be ready for a change. However JLH is one of my personal favs and I have him making the PB on ST which will bolster his confidence for years to come!!!
JLH to the PB!!!!
PLAYOFFBOUND
July 29th, 2009 at 10:16 am
Rockstar, of course they need Lamar…if Lamar wants his money, then the Heat should do a sign and trade—Beasley for Odom straight up…
July 29th, 2009 at 10:16 am
COW,
Of course it helps if the coaches call more passing plays. It also helps to have a competent left tackle to allow the passing game to have a chance.
I’ve heard several times that many felt that Kwame Harris was the WORST starting left tackle in the league last year. Then you had coaches who refused to open up the playbook.
If the Raiders throw the ball 30 to 35 times per game…and Russell can get 20 to 25 completions a game…the receiving numbers will take care of themselves.
July 29th, 2009 at 10:19 am
I am sure that JLH wants to be a starting receiver. Kick returners don’t make a very good living in the NFL. How long do they last?
You make money by being a starter on offense or defense…not special teams.
I am sure that JLH and his agent have had this conversation already. Look for him to try and take that #2 WR job this camp.
July 29th, 2009 at 10:19 am
There was no great JLH, Chazz debate other than they should be able to “pick up where they left off” and get 3-4 grabs a game this year. No one said they would be dominant, or make the pro bowl this year. I only said they should be productive given the chance to start. If we can get 50 catches from each of our starting WRs, that would be good for the TEAM, not necessarily their PB chances. One step at a time.
July 29th, 2009 at 10:19 am
# Dakota Says:
July 29th, 2009 at 10:16 am
Rockstar, of course they need Lamar…if Lamar wants his money, then the Heat should do a sign and trade—Beasley for Odom straight up…
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Beasley for Odom???
lol……..
you must be a Laker fan.
July 29th, 2009 at 10:21 am
SnB Defense Says:
July 29th, 2009 at 10:16 am
If the Raiders throw the ball 30 to 35 times per game…and Russell can get 20 to 25 completions a game…the receiving numbers will take care of themselves.
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SnB, did you just say if Russell can complete between 66.67% and 71.43% of his passes the receiving numbers will take care of themselves?
I wouldn’t hold my breath….
July 29th, 2009 at 10:23 am
I am sure that JLH and his agent have had this conversation already. Look for him to try and take that #2 WR job this camp.
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I am sure they have aswell, but if JLH returning punts gives our team the best chance to win mark my words he will do so…..and in return when one aspect of your game is going well the other aspects seem to slow down and come easier….come on guys this isnt even koolaid its just the truth!
July 29th, 2009 at 10:24 am
Dakota & Teabag:
who is Beasley (Miami) ?
July 29th, 2009 at 10:26 am
Hey Oakcrapper! My favorite new old dude! Man, for a geezer you sure have a lot of energy.
Krappy usually can only spit out a sentence at a time before he craps his drawers, but you go on and on like a 6th grade chick wired on Coke Zero! Must be the Metamucil in the am, huh old dude?
I’m a little concerned you use so many caps and say “LOL” as much as you do. That’s usually what teenage chicks do when they’re gossiping on myspace. But you do what works for you, o friend of Krappy!
Finally I’ve noticed you have a lot of conspiracy theories about bloggers using multiple identities. Don’t worry, my senile old pal – acute paranoia is very common for a dude your age. Cool!
July 29th, 2009 at 10:26 am
Teabag,
Oh yeah…big time, lol. I actually saw that proposed trade on a Miami Herald column, so it is not just me dreaming! The Heat want to keep Wade and the best way to do that is surround him with good veteran players now…they would rather have Wade and Odom for the next few years than just a team with Beasley in 2010 after Wade bolts to Chi town.
July 29th, 2009 at 10:26 am
Didn’t Vick play WR at some point? Bring him on as WR and see what he does.
July 29th, 2009 at 10:27 am
Michael Beasley was a rookie out of Kansas State for Miami.. He didnt have as good of a year as OJ Mayo or Derrick Rose but he definitely is going to be a great player in the league.
And is 20 years old…
Only a Laker fan would suggest trading one of the brightest young players in the game for a 30 year old 6th man LOL
July 29th, 2009 at 10:27 am
COW
Yes, but don’t you think if Chaz or JLH have 60 catches & 8 TD’s would be a good contribution to a team with Miller.Mac,Bush as other pass options?
July 29th, 2009 at 10:27 am
SnB Defense Says:
July 29th, 2009 at 10:19 am
I am sure that JLH wants to be a starting receiver. Kick returners don’t make a very good living in the NFL. How long do they last?
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They last untill they prove to be a WR worth not risking on puntreturns….and does eric meltcalf ring a bell man would I have loved him in his prime….look @ tim brown he was used as a PR untill he proved to be worthy..thats all Im saying He is a solid to VERY good PR and we could use his services in that area and after he breaks a couple…..he will gain MAD confidence and then hopefully he will secure that number 2 spot till then he is just the guy with 22 catches tons of potential and one helluva PR………..
July 29th, 2009 at 10:28 am
# Dakota Says:
July 29th, 2009 at 10:26 am
Teabag,
Oh yeah…big time, lol. I actually saw that proposed trade on a Miami Herald column, so it is not just me dreaming! The Heat want to keep Wade and the best way to do that is surround him with good veteran players now…they would rather have Wade and Odom for the next few years than just a team with Beasley in 2010 after Wade bolts to Chi town.
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I can tell you right now, that will never happen. Beasley is cost controlled on his rookie contract. They are working on extending Wade which I don’t see why it wouldnt happen.
And, the more likely scenario for a sign and trade would be Odom for Haslem.
July 29th, 2009 at 10:30 am
Beechnut,
Whats the happs my youthful exsuberant friend???
my favorite personality….well its a close second with bobby, but hows the day??? steal any lunch money or get yelled @ for using all the Dial up???
What do you think of JLH returning punts??? is it to risky to have our “# 2″ outthere????
July 29th, 2009 at 10:33 am
Teabag,
I think the Lakers would rather punish Odom for walking away from the money than do a sign and trade giving Odom the money he wants and giving the Heat a talented player for Haslem…Odom may have been the 6th man on the Lakers some of the time last season, but everyone knows that was simply a numbers game…he is an NBA starter on almost any other NBA team.
July 29th, 2009 at 10:34 am
Beasly and wade for Odem and Kobe
Walton would go on GP to make the deal look good…and the Heat would have to release the movie rights to “now magic coach” Stan Van so he can star in I am Ron Jeremy that Phils daughter is starring in….wait what was ?I saying????????
July 29th, 2009 at 10:35 am
hey Beech,
How many people are you today I see everyone shoiws upo right when you do??????
this is not watergate either!
July 29th, 2009 at 10:36 am
I’d sign Vick in a heartbeat.
As Chris Rock said, “A white woman shoots a moose, and everybody thinks it’s great. A black man shoots a dog, and he goes to jail.”
July 29th, 2009 at 10:36 am
NEW YORK — Plaxico Burress stood outside a Manhattan court room shortly after his grand jury testimony Wednesday, expressing remorse for his actions in a self-shooting last November.
“I was truthful, I was honest and I’m truly remorseful for what I’ve done, what happened and what I did,” Burress said shortly after walking out of the courtroom at 12:43 p.m. Wednesday. “I just want to thank everybody — family, friends and fans — for their prayers and support.”
Burress was wearing a gray suit with thin blue pinstripes, with a blue shirt and tie. He perspired as he spoke.
He also ignored questions from bystanders, including one guy who yelled “Hey, Plax, Cowboys or Raiders?”
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LMFAO
July 29th, 2009 at 10:36 am
Steve Smith & Brian Westbrook started out as return guys. Same with Darren Sproles.
now Joshua Cribbs & Devin Hester are trying to make the transition to WR. utilize that speed and playmaking ability
the experiment flopped for Dante Hall & Desmond Howard. you need to have a good pair of hands to be a WR in this league.
July 29th, 2009 at 10:38 am
Haslem is better than nothing though….
July 29th, 2009 at 10:39 am
# Dakota Says:
July 29th, 2009 at 10:33 am
Teabag,
I think the Lakers would rather punish Odom for walking away from the money than do a sign and trade giving Odom the money he wants and giving the Heat a talented player for Haslem…Odom may have been the 6th man on the Lakers some of the time last season, but everyone knows that was simply a numbers game…he is an NBA starter on almost any other NBA team.
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He logged starter minutes in LA… so eseentially he WAS a starter on LA. Which every LA fan knew but they used it to say “OH WHAT OTHER TEAM IS SO TALENTED THAT THEY CAN HAVE ODOM AS A 6th MAN??”
its ridiculous.
Either way, there is no way Miami ships Beasley for Odom.
And Buss can try to punish Odom all he wants… Lakers need Odom more than he needs LA. He already has his ring.
July 29th, 2009 at 10:39 am
if Al really has a hankering to get Vick, I’d hope he wouldn’t let the fact that Garcia is here for a year stop him…Vick’s gonna be around a lot longer than Garcia at this point. But being as there are several teams where he can walk right into the starting job, I doubt he’s considering Oakland as a top choice.
July 29th, 2009 at 10:40 am
I love all kinds of Beech’s
Take off my shirt
Pull down my breeches.
July 29th, 2009 at 10:40 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
July 29th, 2009 at 10:36 am
….you need to have a good pair of hands to be a WR in this league.
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WHAT? Then why did we draft DHB????? SCHIT!
July 29th, 2009 at 10:41 am
All I am saying about JLH is that he is more than just a guy to return punts.
I think this is a guy that can be an effective receiver. He’s already proven big play capability out of the receiver position. Opponents that do their homework will know he’s on the field.
Is he an every down wide receiver? Who knows. Let’s watch the camp competition unfold and see what happens.
JLH is going to surprise some folks this year. As will Schilens….I am going to say 50 to 70 catches in 2009. They are capable of grabbing 3 to 5 per game.
As long as OTs hold it down on the pass rush…..
July 29th, 2009 at 10:41 am
He also ignored questions from bystanders, including one guy who yelled “Hey, Plax, Cowboys or Raiders?”
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LMFAO
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Now thats funny right there…..sad but true!!
July 29th, 2009 at 10:42 am
SnB,KK,Cow-would you guys quit interrupting with your football talk.
July 29th, 2009 at 10:42 am
Haslem is better than Odom.
July 29th, 2009 at 10:42 am
He also ignored questions from bystanders, including one guy who yelled “Hey, Plax, Cowboys or Raiders?”
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“Ravens or Jaguars” would have been more appropriate … both teams need a #1 WR and have playoff potential
July 29th, 2009 at 10:42 am
We should trade Garcia to Minnesota for a case of Slim Fast and treadmill that we can put in Russell’s living room.
July 29th, 2009 at 10:44 am
WHAT? Then why did we draft DHB?????
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Cable said his hands weren’t an issue!
in Cable you trust, right Dakota?
July 29th, 2009 at 10:45 am
I guess Jerry & David were drunk and in bed when JaMarcus Checked in last nite.
July 29th, 2009 at 10:45 am
Is he an every down wide receiver? Who knows. Let’s watch the camp competition unfold and see what happens.
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Thats kinda what im gettin at too its a wait and see approach as I said earlier…”look @ tim brown he was used as a PR untill he proved to be worthy..”
untill he proves to be that every down dependable WR then lets let him at least impact our team even if it is on special teams.
July 29th, 2009 at 10:45 am
We should trade Garcia to Minnesota for a case of Slim Fast and treadmill that we can put in Russell’s living room.
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thats too cheap! throw in a Wii Fit …
July 29th, 2009 at 10:46 am
KoolKell Says:
July 29th, 2009 at 10:45 am
I guess Jerry & David were drunk and in bed when JaMarcus Checked in last nite.”
JaMarcus waited until it was cold enough to arrive in his fur coat.
July 29th, 2009 at 10:47 am
Keller: why do you assume Jerry Mac was drunk last night? because he’s white?
did he leave out the Russell details because he’s racist?
July 29th, 2009 at 10:47 am
I guess Jerry & David were drunk and in bed when JaMarcus Checked in last nite.
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thats wierd aren’t they married?????????
July 29th, 2009 at 10:48 am
thats too cheap! throw in a Wii Fit …
LOL I could see russell trying the down hill ski or the long jump!!!!!! poor poor little stand pad……
July 29th, 2009 at 10:49 am
Drunk because he’s a “Reporter”
July 29th, 2009 at 10:49 am
Krappy, we already know you uncontrollably crap your pants throughout the day – but do we actually have to hear you do a live play by play?
I thought we made more progress than that, you old goat.
Oakcrapper, don’t get me wrong, I’m totally psyched to have another old dude as a blog pal, but your paranoid delusions about people using multiple identities kind of ruin it. The young folks of today like to look to our elders for their lifetime of experience, not for their delusional fantasies.
Anyway, I think you’re worrying about who’s going to return punts and kickoffs much too early. The biggest concern you should have right now – along with the rest of us – is will Krappy get arrested stumbling through the Arby’s drive thru this afternoon in the nude?
July 29th, 2009 at 10:49 am
fur coat? don’t tell Raider O!
somebody probably went trapping to get that fur … haha
O: does that take you off the Russell bandwagon?
Danny Southwick would never wear a fur coat!
July 29th, 2009 at 10:50 am
We’ll see if the fur coats are still around this year.
July 29th, 2009 at 10:50 am
her are some player picks in napa (garcia looks old as dirt)
http://www.napavalleyregister.com/articles/2009/07/29/sports/doc4a6fec9b7bb38721420861.txt
July 29th, 2009 at 10:50 am
Quick Notes & Quotes from Training Camp
Defensive end Trevor Scott looks much bigger in the upper body. Last year, from a distance I thought Stuart Schweigert had been re-signed. No more mistaking him for a safety, based on the size of his arms.
Scott said he weighed 256 pounds and wasn’t shy about stating his goals.
“I want to start, I want to get double-digit sacks and just try to (defend the) run as well as I can,” Scott said.
Scott came to Oakland playing on the left side, but said he is now more comfortable on the right.
July 29th, 2009 at 10:52 am
KK
You know I’m just playin right? J can wear whatever he damn well pleases as long as he gets it done and I am willing to bet my Authentic JaMarcus Russel jersey that he WILL get it done.
July 29th, 2009 at 10:53 am
“Danny Southwick would never wear a fur coat!”
Neither would Jon Alston.
July 29th, 2009 at 10:54 am
Beeeecham,
You never cease to amaze. Anyway, training camp is here. What are you looking forward to from the Raiders? Any opinion on camp battles?
Your “concern” for certain bloggers has been well-documented.
July 29th, 2009 at 10:54 am
Javon Walker re-signing with Drew Rosenhaus indicates to me, that he’s serious about re-starting his career.
July 29th, 2009 at 10:54 am
Damn Lo Neal looks HUGE in that picture at the Napa Valley Reg!
Thanks for the link WESTRAIDER
July 29th, 2009 at 10:54 am
Thanks West!
There will be additional daily meetings throughout camp, which goes to Aug. 27. In terms of days here, it’s one of the longest camps that the Raiders have had.
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cool! work’em Cable
July 29th, 2009 at 10:56 am
WESTRAIDER Says:
July 29th, 2009 at 10:50 am
her are some player picks in napa (garcia looks old as dirt)
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That’s because he is old. He’s 39 years old. He’s just looking to play it out at this point.
Perhaps the Raiders should trade him to Minnesota. They seem to like 39 yr old QBs!
Then we can give Andrew Walter a reason to be in camp and justify his paycheck.
WHY ON EARTH IS ANDREW WALTER STILL ON THE ROSTER??????
July 29th, 2009 at 10:56 am
yea its nothin. he dose look big and scott looks like stu. lol
July 29th, 2009 at 10:56 am
Thanks for the link WEST!!!!!
July 29th, 2009 at 10:56 am
fur coat? don’t tell Raider O!
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Does Palin eat the wolves she shoots from a helicopter?
July 29th, 2009 at 10:56 am
It’s all about Javon Walker being healthy. If he’s healthy, he’ll be on the squad, and on the field.
July 29th, 2009 at 10:57 am
Yes, he can wear what he wants, but the fur needs to go, Imo. It’s a caricature. Hopefully he got that one out of his system.
July 29th, 2009 at 10:58 am
There are 84 players on the roster going into camp. But still unsigned is wide receiver Darrius Heyward-Bey, the seventh overall pick in the April NFL Draft.
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what 4 players will be cut or placed on the PUP list today?
July 29th, 2009 at 10:59 am
KoolKell Says:
July 29th, 2009 at 10:57 am
Yes, he can wear what he wants, but the fur needs to go, Imo. It’s a caricature. Hopefully he got that one out of his system.
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He will be judged by his performance on the field. At least he’s not out there trying to be a marketing superstar before he’s accomplished anything on the field…..
Read: Brady Quinn, Matt Stafford, Mark Sanchez
July 29th, 2009 at 11:00 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
July 29th, 2009 at 10:58 am
There are 84 players on the roster going into camp. But still unsigned is wide receiver Darrius Heyward-Bey, the seventh overall pick in the April NFL Draft.
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what 4 players will be cut or placed on the PUP list today?
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Won’t find out until the Raiders are mandated by the league to release their 53 man roster.
Do the Raiders even have a media/PR guy?
July 29th, 2009 at 11:01 am
That’s true too, SnB
July 29th, 2009 at 11:01 am
Read: Brady Quinn, Matt Stafford, Mark Sanchez
Sanchez is from LA im sure you will see some “fur coat” pics from NY thats a BIG place for a young LA kid with a lot of $$$$$$$ IMHO
July 29th, 2009 at 11:02 am
b bac late (no fur) ha ha
July 29th, 2009 at 11:02 am
Do the Raiders even have a media/PR guy?
LOL yes Jerry and Us thtas it!!!
July 29th, 2009 at 11:03 am
Won’t find out until the Raiders are mandated by the league to release their 53 man roster.
Do the Raiders even have a media/PR guy?
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False. you can only take 80 players to training camp.
John Herrerra
July 29th, 2009 at 11:04 am
LOL yes Jerry and Us thats it!!!
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I can’t imagine that MR/Dude/Narc0b00b are in the public relations biz! lol
July 29th, 2009 at 11:05 am
don’t be surprised if O’Neal winds up on the Physically Unable to Perform List along with left guard Robert Gallery (appendectomy) and perhaps wide receiver Arman Shields (year-old knee injury).
Lorenzo Neal’s arrival takes the hurry out of O’Neal’s return.
-David White
July 29th, 2009 at 11:06 am
hey guys honest question whats the over under and who do you think it is….
5: over or under Raiders that get on here to read and post stuff????? and who would be the most likely candidate.
I say under and mostly to read but Mr53 maybe, Kirk maybe, Dmac maybe….but I always see random posts from names I havnt seen in here in the two seasons Ive been here just curious on opinions?? yes even yours Beccnut I know its football related but you can do it!!!
PLAYOFFBOUND!!
July 29th, 2009 at 11:06 am
The Raiders must cut three players to get to the 80-man limit, and already did so according to a team source who declined to name names.
For those thinking backup quarterback Andrew Walter was done, that was news to him. He checked in for camp Tuesday — and yes, they did issue him a room key.
Raiders coach Tom Cable won’t speak with reporters until noon Wednesday. That’s when the transactions are most likely to become public.
-David White
July 29th, 2009 at 11:07 am
Red right 88
July 29th, 2009 at 11:09 am
If Oren O’Neal can go in practice….put him on the active roster and let him develop. This is a great opportunity for him with Lorenzo Neal on the roster.
If his knee holds up…play him.
I get wary when the Raiders try to “hide” players on these lists. It didn’t work out for Arman Shields, John Bowie or Michael Bush.
Michael Bush should have been in the rotation towards the end of 2007. Maybe he performs well enough to change the draft decisions in 2008. But nope…Davis was worried about Denver or K.C claiming Rhodes or LaMont Jordon.
Now the RAiders have too many running backs and not enough carries.
July 29th, 2009 at 11:10 am
RaiderTW Says:
July 29th, 2009 at 11:04 am
LOL yes Jerry and Us thats it!!!
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I can’t imagine that MR/Dude/Narc0b00b are in the public relations biz! lol
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My bad I meant US as in a coherint group…not the ramblers……Dakota doubles as a pr guy Double R always on point with the write ups Im tryin to update the bloggers with the twitter world…we do our part!!
LOL Herrea is a joke at best he hates me and all my smoke potting buddies!!!!!
July 29th, 2009 at 11:11 am
most likely Raider posting comments on Jerry Mac’s blog?
tough question OAKlifer. players acknowledge watching SportsCenter and browsing the PFT website all the time. I guess it depends on their opinion of Jerry Mac. They see him. He asks them questions.
I’ll go with Shane Lechler
July 29th, 2009 at 11:11 am
OAKlifer Says:
July 29th, 2009 at 11:06 am
hey guys honest question whats the over under and who do you think it is….
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I would tend to believe players & front office types read and comment on occasion.
July 29th, 2009 at 11:11 am
If O’niel doesnt get PUP’ed, Lawton gets cut.
July 29th, 2009 at 11:12 am
Southwick done.
July 29th, 2009 at 11:12 am
bydavidwhite~
No update on DHB, we’ll find out more when coach Tom Cable meets with reporters at noon here in Napa
July 29th, 2009 at 11:13 am
One of the little WR gets axed
July 29th, 2009 at 11:13 am
Thanks, SnB! It’s my pleasure to amaze.
I think the premier camp battles are pretty well documented – the 3rd linebacker slot, safety, LT, WR. Possibly the most compelling though would be at DE. What frame of mind is Burgess in? What will Ellis bring? Will Scott rise to the next level or go through a sophomore slump, is Shaughnessy a diamond in the rough? Richardson – boom or bust? And probably most important, will Marshall allow our LBs and corners to blitz (probably not) to take some pressure off our ends?
Speaking of ends, its highly probably that Krappy is dropping a nice steamy duece out of his directly into a pair of adult diapers at this very moment. Just an fyi.
July 29th, 2009 at 11:14 am
Al DAVIS HAS COJONES Says:
July 29th, 2009 at 11:12 am
Southwick done.
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!
This is flase reporting at its best!!!!!!!!!
Hey Double R where did you get that White Quote from??? The cronhicle??
July 29th, 2009 at 11:15 am
S&B post # 368
sounds like you still don’t like the McFadden selection.
a team built to run the football needs as many talented backs as possible. If DMC becomes a factor back, I mean closer to Adrian Peterson (not Reggie Bush) nobody will regret taking him, despite what other RB’s were on the roster at the time
-A true fan
July 29th, 2009 at 11:16 am
Please God, let Andrew Walter and Sam Williams disapear…
July 29th, 2009 at 11:16 am
Hey Double R where did you get that White Quote from??? The cronhicle??
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sfgate.com
July 29th, 2009 at 11:18 am
WR Johnnie Lee Higgins in the house w-th cowboy hat from Ensenada
- David White (twitter)
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LOL! JLH is awesome…
July 29th, 2009 at 11:20 am
per SFGate: Jeff George to be announced as new Raider camp arm.
July 29th, 2009 at 11:24 am
DHB needs to get signed asap. He’s hurting himself every second he’s away from the team.
July 29th, 2009 at 11:25 am
385 AMEN brother!!!!!!
July 29th, 2009 at 11:26 am
It’s impossible to catch passes that are not thrown to you.
COW, runs his mouth about the recievers being sorry. But last I checked JLH caught just about everything thrown his way. We had a very young QB getting his feet wet. His confidence was in his TE and the vet WR’s let him down Curry drops, Walker disappears and Lelie just plain sorry. By the time things worked themselves out we had Chaz and JLH beating some of the best corners in the league.
COW they got open and cught the ball when it was thrown to them. What the hell else do you want ffor an bunch of 2nd and 3rd year players. This team is biulding you numskull they haven’t arrived yet and we all know that so no one expected anymore from them last year.
This year is different they are all a year older let’s give this thing a chance to develope before start dumping on it.
Some people don’t have the brains to see past their own dumbass bias’s.
DMC was injured or he could’ve been a huge difference maker. Had Bush been used properly he would’ve been dominant.
Anyone with half a brain could see that unless they were too damn bias to except it.
July 29th, 2009 at 11:26 am
384 LOL brother!!!
July 29th, 2009 at 11:27 am
http://twitter.com/jerrymcd
From my work -
The site you requested is blocked under the following categories: Dating/Personals
LOL!
what kind of tweets is Jerry making on there ???
July 29th, 2009 at 11:27 am
382,
Are you serious about Jeff George. I haven’t seen that anywhere. I think it would make for some damn interesting preseason football though. Why not?
July 29th, 2009 at 11:29 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
July 29th, 2009 at 11:15 am
S&B post # 368
sounds like you still don’t like the McFadden selection.
a team built to run the football needs as many talented backs as possible. If DMC becomes a factor back, I mean closer to Adrian Peterson (not Reggie Bush) nobody will regret taking him, despite what other RB’s were on the roster at the time
-A true fan
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I have no problem with DMAC being selected 4th overall. I do have a problem with the 4th overall selection being utilized like a part-time 4th rounder.
I still don’t see how you can spread out the carries with 3 running backs that all need a decent amount of carries to be effective. You could make the argument that all 3 backs should get 15 to 20 per gm.
July 29th, 2009 at 11:29 am
per SFGate: George Lopez to be announced as new Raider camp arm.
July 29th, 2009 at 11:29 am
KoolKell Says:
July 29th, 2009 at 10:42 am
Haslem is better than Odom.
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At what?
July 29th, 2009 at 11:30 am
I have no problem with DMAC being selected 4th overall. I do have a problem with the 4th overall selection being utilized like a part-time 4th rounder.
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Not my convo but wasnt that b/c he was never at full health????
July 29th, 2009 at 11:32 am
Jerry,
The thing is the Raiders don’t really know whether JaMarcus will be great or not. With a load of talented, under-25 players on offense — McFadden, Bush, JLH, Schilens, DHB, Murphy, Miller — a 39-year-old Jeff Garcia is not the future QB of this team. Hopefully JaMarcus is, but if he’s not capable of being a great NFL QB it wouldn’t hurt to sign a veteran like Vick to be around to at least compete for that spot in 2010. In the meantime, he can rebuild his image and contribute to the offense as a highly explosive specialty player.
July 29th, 2009 at 11:32 am
From my work -
The site you requested is blocked under the following categories: Dating/Personals
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Same here, RR, when I get home to check it’s not news anymore. Mine says:
Access Denied (content_filter_denied)
Your request was denied because of its content categorization: “Social Networking;Blogs/Personal Pages;Blogs/Wiki;Social Networking”
July 29th, 2009 at 11:34 am
RaiderTW Says:
July 29th, 2009 at 11:32 am
From my work -
The site you requested is blocked under the following categories: Dating/Personals
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Same here, RR, when I get home to check it’s not news anymore. Mine says:
Access Denied (content_filter_denied)
Your request was denied because of its content categorization: “Social Networking;Blogs/Personal Pages;Blogs/Wiki;Social Networking”
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Ill keep the AM crew updated !!!! no worries
July 29th, 2009 at 11:35 am
I have no problem with DMAC being selected 4th overall. I do have a problem with the 4th overall selection being utilized like a part-time 4th rounder.
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OAKlifer responded first, but yeah. shoulder injury and turf toe on both feet. Cable didn’t have a full offseason. Fargas was the starter at RB with a fresh new contract when Cable inherited the team. DMC was injured and Bush was punished for refusing to play FB
Davis said Bush will get more carries. McFadden is healthy. Fargas took a paycut.
what’s not to like or understand here ???
July 29th, 2009 at 11:36 am
Ill keep the AM crew updated !!!! no worries
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thanks OAKlifer!
for a minute there I thought Jerry Mac = McLovin
July 29th, 2009 at 11:39 am
OAKlifer Says:
July 29th, 2009 at 11:30 am
I have no problem with DMAC being selected 4th overall. I do have a problem with the 4th overall selection being utilized like a part-time 4th rounder.
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Not my convo but wasnt that b/c he was never at full health????
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After the Miami game, DMAC was ready to play. Russell had to lobby Cable to get him into the last couple of games. DMAC said it was the “coaches call”…and Tom Cable gave some weird reason about 3rd downs or something.
DMAC is a 20 touch a game player…Period
Bush is a 10 to 15 carries a game player…Period
Fargas is a 15+ carry a player too. Unfortunately he is 29 yrs old….When Davis drafted Bush & DMAC…that should have been a sign where his career was going. They should have played him earlier in his career.
That’s why I am big on getting younger players the playing time. Look at Fargas. Sits on the bench most of his career…finally flashes some talent…but is now older and is replaced by more dynamic talent.
July 29th, 2009 at 11:41 am
First year Raider, tackle Khalif Barnes, is excited for training to begin and expects good things to come. “I’m happy to be in camp. I haven’t played football in a long time. January was my last game,” Barnes said. “It’s that time of the year again when you get that itch.”
With it being Barnes’ first camp with the Raiders, he is impressed with the set up. “It’s my first time in Napa and it looks awesome. I’m just looking forward to having fun,” Barnes explained.
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having fun, and sitting on the bench behind Super Mario and Super Mop Handle!
July 29th, 2009 at 11:42 am
SnB, Al Davis has always been very prtective of injured players that have great potential. Bush wasn’t going to be used until they were sure he was ready. Sure he didn’t agree but I’ll tell you most of the time it’s best for the player.
I remember when Tim Brown had the kne injury he held him out an extra year. At the time Tim didn’t appreciate it but it extended his career as he says. If they rush back too many things can and often do go wrong. I told Arman as much last year and he didn’t like it. But it might be the difference in his having a chance to make the team.
July 29th, 2009 at 11:42 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
July 29th, 2009 at 11:06 am
For those thinking backup quarterback Andrew Walter was done, that was news to him. He checked in for camp Tuesday — and yes, they did issue him a room key.
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i’m not sure the key to the washroom in the lobby counts…
July 29th, 2009 at 11:47 am
i’m not sure the key to the washroom in the lobby counts…
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or the key to the janitor closet?
maybe AW is the “source” for Bobby’s janitor boyfriend?
Bobby: did BJ Raji report to Alameda yet???
July 29th, 2009 at 11:48 am
DREW ROSENHAUS RE-SIGNS JAVON WALKER?????
1st Mario Henderson, then Louis Murphy, now sorry ass Javon???
Sound like a little buying low selling high to me.
July 29th, 2009 at 11:51 am
Drew Roseycheeks is popular among players. He builds up their self confidence and makes them feel like their value is through the roof – even if it isn’t true
July 29th, 2009 at 11:51 am
Well, according to the Wed. camp schedule at napavalleyregister.com, right about now Danny Southwick is getting his helmet speaker hooked up to the coaches headset.
Then he’ll have lunch with his roommate Nnamdi before an afternoon PR meeting on how Danny should handle the upcoming media circus…
July 29th, 2009 at 11:53 am
Cable speaks in 7 minutes?
July 29th, 2009 at 11:57 am
priesttj Says:
July 29th, 2009 at 11:26 am
DMC was injured or he could’ve been a huge difference maker. Had Bush been used properly he would’ve been dominant.
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This is why some people dump on the team..
DOMINANT?
And you base this on what exactly?? A game in TB?? ONE GAME…
If that was the case…
Joe Aska
Rashean Mathis
Aaron Wallace
Sam Graddy
Billy Joe Hobert
Darryl Hobbs
James Trapp
Doug Jolley
all would have been dominant too… As they have had some amazing single games in their careers.
You speak of “waiting and see before we dump on anything”
Yea, well let’s wait and see before we go anointing Michael Bush… “DOMINANT”
July 29th, 2009 at 11:58 am
Danny Southwick is roomed up with Nnamdi?
Southwick can already read a defense and audible when he sees a coverage he doesn’t like. I guess this is good for team chemistry though, since Danny is a 1st year Raider. captain on offense roomed up with captain on defense, huh? cool
July 29th, 2009 at 11:58 am
Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
July 29th, 2009 at 11:29 am
KoolKell Says:
July 29th, 2009 at 10:42 am
Haslem is better than Odom.
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At what?
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He does have better hair than Odom…other than that…
July 29th, 2009 at 11:59 am
somebody said Fargas is a 15+ carry per game player????
LOL….
hey, I may be in the minority here… but Fargas isn’t even a 5+ carry a game player…
July 29th, 2009 at 12:01 pm
Teabag: Rashean Mathis is a great player for Jacksonville
don’t know if i’d call him “dominant” though.
He has to cover Andre Johnson, Reggie Wayne and now Kenny Britt twice a year.
July 29th, 2009 at 12:03 pm
sorry not Rashean Mathis..
I Meant Rashard Baker
July 29th, 2009 at 12:03 pm
I may be in the minority here… but Fargas isn’t even a 5+ carry a game player…
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McFadden is the starter and Bush will be the 3rd down, change of pace back. also used in short yardage and goalline situations. Both of them can catch passes out of the backfield
nice to have Fargas in case of injury I guess?
July 29th, 2009 at 12:07 pm
# RaiderRockstar Says:
July 29th, 2009 at 12:03 pm
I may be in the minority here… but Fargas isn’t even a 5+ carry a game player…
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McFadden is the starter and Bush will be the 3rd down, change of pace back. also used in short yardage and goalline situations. Both of them can catch passes out of the backfield
nice to have Fargas in case of injury I guess?
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I believe Bush will have more carries than McFadden…
When you compare their skill sets. Bush loses efficiency as a change of pace back.. You are playing away from his strengths.
McFadden is going to used to create matchup issues. (pro set, split wide. in motion, in the slot etc)
McFadden is not going to be used like a traditional back, nor should he be.
July 29th, 2009 at 12:08 pm
new post up
July 29th, 2009 at 9:33 pm
# RaiderRockstar Says:
July 29th, 2009 at 12:03 pm
I may be in the minority here… but Fargas isn’t even a 5+ carry a game player…
Sorry fellas, but, as much as I love McFadden & Bush, I’ll still take Fargus every day of the week.
I want tough dudes on my team. That guy is pure heart & toughness. I’m definitely the one in the minority, but I can name you Raider after Raider from those teams in the 70’s that didn’t exactly drool with athleticism. But, those guys had the heart & grit to make us champions.
Those are the types of guys I want more of for this team.