Comments on: To Vick, or not to Vick? http://www.ibabuzz.com/oaklandraiders/2009/07/28/to-vick-or-not-to-vick/ A look inside the world of the highly classified Oakland Raiders from the writers of Bay Area News Group Tue, 21 May 2013 14:02:59 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Silver-n-Smac http://www.ibabuzz.com/oaklandraiders/2009/07/28/to-vick-or-not-to-vick/comment-page-9/#comment-115918 Silver-n-Smac Thu, 30 Jul 2009 04:33:26 +0000 http://www.ibabuzz.com/raidersblog/?p=5507#comment-115918 # RaiderRockstar Says: July 29th, 2009 at 12:03 pm I may be in the minority here… but Fargas isn’t even a 5+ carry a game player… Sorry fellas, but, as much as I love McFadden & Bush, I'll still take Fargus every day of the week. I want tough dudes on my team. That guy is pure heart & toughness. I'm definitely the one in the minority, but I can name you Raider after Raider from those teams in the 70's that didn't exactly drool with athleticism. But, those guys had the heart & grit to make us champions. Those are the types of guys I want more of for this team. # RaiderRockstar Says:
July 29th, 2009 at 12:03 pm

I may be in the minority here… but Fargas isn’t even a 5+ carry a game player…

Sorry fellas, but, as much as I love McFadden & Bush, I’ll still take Fargus every day of the week.

I want tough dudes on my team. That guy is pure heart & toughness. I’m definitely the one in the minority, but I can name you Raider after Raider from those teams in the 70’s that didn’t exactly drool with athleticism. But, those guys had the heart & grit to make us champions.

Those are the types of guys I want more of for this team.

]]> By: Dakota http://www.ibabuzz.com/oaklandraiders/2009/07/28/to-vick-or-not-to-vick/comment-page-9/#comment-115765 Dakota Wed, 29 Jul 2009 19:08:41 +0000 http://www.ibabuzz.com/raidersblog/?p=5507#comment-115765 new post up new post up

]]> By: Teabag http://www.ibabuzz.com/oaklandraiders/2009/07/28/to-vick-or-not-to-vick/comment-page-9/#comment-115764 Teabag Wed, 29 Jul 2009 19:07:05 +0000 http://www.ibabuzz.com/raidersblog/?p=5507#comment-115764 # RaiderRockstar Says: July 29th, 2009 at 12:03 pm I may be in the minority here… but Fargas isn’t even a 5+ carry a game player… *** McFadden is the starter and Bush will be the 3rd down, change of pace back. also used in short yardage and goalline situations. Both of them can catch passes out of the backfield nice to have Fargas in case of injury I guess? ------------------------------------------------- I believe Bush will have more carries than McFadden... When you compare their skill sets. Bush loses efficiency as a change of pace back.. You are playing away from his strengths. McFadden is going to used to create matchup issues. (pro set, split wide. in motion, in the slot etc) McFadden is not going to be used like a traditional back, nor should he be. # RaiderRockstar Says:
July 29th, 2009 at 12:03 pm

I may be in the minority here… but Fargas isn’t even a 5+ carry a game player…

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McFadden is the starter and Bush will be the 3rd down, change of pace back. also used in short yardage and goalline situations. Both of them can catch passes out of the backfield

nice to have Fargas in case of injury I guess?
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I believe Bush will have more carries than McFadden…

When you compare their skill sets. Bush loses efficiency as a change of pace back.. You are playing away from his strengths.

McFadden is going to used to create matchup issues. (pro set, split wide. in motion, in the slot etc)

McFadden is not going to be used like a traditional back, nor should he be.

]]> By: RaiderRockstar http://www.ibabuzz.com/oaklandraiders/2009/07/28/to-vick-or-not-to-vick/comment-page-9/#comment-115351 RaiderRockstar Wed, 29 Jul 2009 19:03:46 +0000 http://www.ibabuzz.com/raidersblog/?p=5507#comment-115351 I may be in the minority here… but Fargas isn’t even a 5+ carry a game player… *** McFadden is the starter and Bush will be the 3rd down, change of pace back. also used in short yardage and goalline situations. Both of them can catch passes out of the backfield nice to have Fargas in case of injury I guess? I may be in the minority here… but Fargas isn’t even a 5+ carry a game player…

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McFadden is the starter and Bush will be the 3rd down, change of pace back. also used in short yardage and goalline situations. Both of them can catch passes out of the backfield

nice to have Fargas in case of injury I guess?

]]> By: Teabag http://www.ibabuzz.com/oaklandraiders/2009/07/28/to-vick-or-not-to-vick/comment-page-9/#comment-115350 Teabag Wed, 29 Jul 2009 19:03:25 +0000 http://www.ibabuzz.com/raidersblog/?p=5507#comment-115350 sorry not Rashean Mathis.. I Meant Rashard Baker sorry not Rashean Mathis..

I Meant Rashard Baker

]]> By: RaiderRockstar http://www.ibabuzz.com/oaklandraiders/2009/07/28/to-vick-or-not-to-vick/comment-page-9/#comment-115763 RaiderRockstar Wed, 29 Jul 2009 19:01:39 +0000 http://www.ibabuzz.com/raidersblog/?p=5507#comment-115763 Teabag: Rashean Mathis is a great player for Jacksonville don't know if i'd call him "dominant" though. He has to cover Andre Johnson, Reggie Wayne and now Kenny Britt twice a year. Teabag: Rashean Mathis is a great player for Jacksonville

don’t know if i’d call him “dominant” though.

He has to cover Andre Johnson, Reggie Wayne and now Kenny Britt twice a year.

]]> By: Teabag http://www.ibabuzz.com/oaklandraiders/2009/07/28/to-vick-or-not-to-vick/comment-page-9/#comment-115762 Teabag Wed, 29 Jul 2009 18:59:38 +0000 http://www.ibabuzz.com/raidersblog/?p=5507#comment-115762 somebody said Fargas is a 15+ carry per game player???? LOL.... hey, I may be in the minority here... but Fargas isn't even a 5+ carry a game player... somebody said Fargas is a 15+ carry per game player????

LOL….

hey, I may be in the minority here… but Fargas isn’t even a 5+ carry a game player…

]]> By: RaiderRockstar http://www.ibabuzz.com/oaklandraiders/2009/07/28/to-vick-or-not-to-vick/comment-page-9/#comment-115760 RaiderRockstar Wed, 29 Jul 2009 18:58:43 +0000 http://www.ibabuzz.com/raidersblog/?p=5507#comment-115760 Danny Southwick is roomed up with Nnamdi? Southwick can already read a defense and audible when he sees a coverage he doesn't like. I guess this is good for team chemistry though, since Danny is a 1st year Raider. captain on offense roomed up with captain on defense, huh? cool Danny Southwick is roomed up with Nnamdi?

Southwick can already read a defense and audible when he sees a coverage he doesn’t like. I guess this is good for team chemistry though, since Danny is a 1st year Raider. captain on offense roomed up with captain on defense, huh? cool

]]> By: Dakota http://www.ibabuzz.com/oaklandraiders/2009/07/28/to-vick-or-not-to-vick/comment-page-9/#comment-115761 Dakota Wed, 29 Jul 2009 18:58:43 +0000 http://www.ibabuzz.com/raidersblog/?p=5507#comment-115761 Bo Schembechler Jackson Says: July 29th, 2009 at 11:29 am KoolKell Says: July 29th, 2009 at 10:42 am Haslem is better than Odom. :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: At what? :::::::::::::: He does have better hair than Odom...other than that... Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
July 29th, 2009 at 11:29 am
KoolKell Says:
July 29th, 2009 at 10:42 am
Haslem is better than Odom.

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At what?

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He does have better hair than Odom…other than that…

]]> By: Teabag http://www.ibabuzz.com/oaklandraiders/2009/07/28/to-vick-or-not-to-vick/comment-page-9/#comment-115759 Teabag Wed, 29 Jul 2009 18:57:54 +0000 http://www.ibabuzz.com/raidersblog/?p=5507#comment-115759 priesttj Says: July 29th, 2009 at 11:26 am DMC was injured or he could’ve been a huge difference maker. Had Bush been used properly he would’ve been dominant. --------------------------------------------------- This is why some people dump on the team.. DOMINANT? And you base this on what exactly?? A game in TB?? ONE GAME... If that was the case... Joe Aska Rashean Mathis Aaron Wallace Sam Graddy Billy Joe Hobert Darryl Hobbs James Trapp Doug Jolley all would have been dominant too... As they have had some amazing single games in their careers. You speak of "waiting and see before we dump on anything" Yea, well let's wait and see before we go anointing Michael Bush... "DOMINANT" priesttj Says:
July 29th, 2009 at 11:26 am

DMC was injured or he could’ve been a huge difference maker. Had Bush been used properly he would’ve been dominant.

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This is why some people dump on the team..

DOMINANT?

And you base this on what exactly?? A game in TB?? ONE GAME…

If that was the case…

Joe Aska
Rashean Mathis
Aaron Wallace
Sam Graddy
Billy Joe Hobert
Darryl Hobbs
James Trapp
Doug Jolley

all would have been dominant too… As they have had some amazing single games in their careers.

You speak of “waiting and see before we dump on anything”

Yea, well let’s wait and see before we go anointing Michael Bush… “DOMINANT”

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