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DHB drops in for practice

By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Thursday, July 30th, 2009 at 7:26 pm in Oakland Raiders.

Let’s be fair about it. It wasn’t exactly an optimum situation to go out for your first pass as a rookie first-round draft pick with a reported $23.5 million guranteed in your back pocket.

All the other Raiders receivers had been going through warm-ups together, catching some passes, while Darrius Heyward-Bey got in a little late while his contract was finalized.

But the Raiders couldn’t resist taking their high-speed toy for a test drive, and after he was done being stretched by a trainer, Heyward-Bey took the field. He went vertical of course, lining up on the left side and streaking 35 yards downfield.

Quarterback Charlie Frye arched a somewhat wobbly pass his way. Heyward-Bey got his hands on it, then it clanked to the ground.

“Didn’t get no balls before I got out there,’’ Heyward-Bey said. “That’s not good. But coach was like, `Go out there.’ And after that play it was like, `Well, you didn’t get any balls. He was like, `OK, that was my fault.’ Just the first day, getting out there right after the warmup. Things happen.’’

Afterward, the Raiders went to team sessions where there were no passes thrown. Instead was a procession of quick whistles and choreography, making sure they were lined up correctly, making the right reads. Footwork was checked.

At one point, passing game coordinator Ted Tollner called Heyward-Bey over told him of a mistake in a pass route.

As usual, there is little drama when it comes to the Raiders and their draft picks. The Raiders remain among the NFL’s best when it comes to bringing in their draft picks, with the JaMarcus Russell impasse the only blemish.

“I was aware of that, and I felt like it was headed in the right direction and it would get done so I had some comfort with it, but at the same time I wanted all of them here at the first meeting. He is here now and we worked today and he will get right into the flow of things.’’

Heyward-Bey, who proclaimed his hamstring ready to go (he missed time during mandatory minicamp and the OTAs), said he didn’t want to wait around until the 49ers Michael Crabtree signed or get the proper slot between Nos. 6 (Andre Smith) and 8 (Eugene Monroe) .

“I’ve always been concerned with myself and only me from Day 1,’’ Heyward-Bey said. “ I really can’t worry about what everybody else is doing. We were focusing on being a Raider and that’s it.’’

More news and notes from the second practice:

– Moments after Heyward-Bey went to the field house to get his equipment on and join his teammates, Andrew Walter made his way off the practice field for the last time, having been given his freedom.

He had just received the news he had been hoping for and was looking forward to a “good vibe’’ and new employer.

“I’m very excited for a fresh start,’’ Walter said. “We’ll see what happens. The only thing different that I would have hoped for is that it would have happened earlier. Things haven’t changed since February and it occurred just now. The timing is something I can’t control.’’

The Raiders gave permission Walter to seek a trade in the offseason, but with clubs knowing to a reasonable certainty he would be cut eventually, there were no takers. Walter, the one-time quarterback of the future whose Raiders career will forever be linked to Tom Walsh, Art Shell and the “Bed and Breakfast’’ offense, should get a shot somewhere.

Seattle, where Greg Knapp is the offensive coordinator, is a possibility. So is Denver, where Josh McDaniels isn’t as much of a stickler for mobile quarterbacks as Mike Shanahan was.

– Guard Paul McQuistan, who had offseason knee surgery, sat out the second practice, as did fullback Oren O’Neal. Derrick Burgess remained a no-show.

Chris Morris worked with the first team at left guard, followed by Mark Wilson.

– Tommy Kelly left briefly to have his ankle worked on, but returned to practice and didn’t jump offsides.

– Cable made a point after the morning session to that it didn’t matter much until Monday who worked with the first and second teams.

Still, it was at least mildly interesting that Stanford Routt got more work with the first team defense than did Chris Johnson, who signed the stealth off-season contract with a $4 million signing bonus.

– There isn’t much time before the whistle to make a play, but on one snap Jon Alston knifed through and got his hands on Darren McFadden on a sweep to the left.

– Details continued to be a priority, with defensive coordinator John Marshall reminding Gerard Warren about where he lined up, “Don’t get in there too tight, Gerard,’’ Marshall said.

– The run defense isn’t the only area where the Raiders plan to tighten things up. The media is now restricted to a 30-yard box on each field. Instead of being able to walk from field to field around an end zone, as in past years, a Raiders employee must lead the way.

I’ll refrain from calling it an “escort service.’’

Makes for an almost impossible view in some cases when the team is near the 50-yard line and players are in the way.

At one point, the guide was forced to stop near a stack of pads used for drills. When two reporters sat down for a moment, the cell phone of the security guard rang almost instantly.

“You have to get up,’’ he said somewhat reluctantly.

– The Raiders became the sixth team to get all their draft picks signed, joining Baltimore, Chicago, the New York Jets, Pittsburgh and Atlanta.

The Bears had no first-round pick and the Jets just three picks overall.

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  • http://www.dannysouthwick.com DO NOT HATE ON MY BOY SOUTHWICK

    Lamer Odom cost himself $3 mil by dissing Buss… OOOPS. At least Kokchap finally got it done.

  • http://sportmag.us/images/Lester_Hayes_November_1981.jpg RaiderDogg

    DO NOT HATE ON MY BOY SOUTHWICK Says:
    July 31st, 2009 at 12:01 pm
    Tyler Ladendorf could be the Danny Southwick of MLB.”

    Billy Beane was quoted as saying “We’ve had our on Landendorf since the 2007 draft. I’m telling you right now, are you listening? This kid could turn out to be the Danny Southwick of the major leagues. Most likely sooner than later. “

  • F U JAVON

    Jerrymcd Javon Walker: When they let me loose, it s on after that.
    ——————————————————-

    Shut up , fag!

  • http://sportmag.us/images/Lester_Hayes_November_1981.jpg RaiderDogg

    Kind of hate to see Cabrera go, he has been hot the last month and was a stellar SS. I guess this means Bobby Crosby will be back in the lineup on the daily. Cue the injury bug…

  • http://sportmag.us/images/Lester_Hayes_November_1981.jpg RaiderDogg

    dmcfadden20 Knocked out tha first practice now jus chillen until meetins

  • SNB Defense

    The basic premise is that Marshall is a big upgrade over Ryan. I agree with that conceptually. To me the biggest question will be in the game planning. Will the defense PLAY differently. Will the playcalling truly look DIFFERENT when they take the field on Monday Night.

    Like I said before…regardless of the final score, we will have all the answers we need after that 1st game

  • jhill

    Good to see LO back. But I wouldn’t have lost a moments sleep if he left. Until Bynum or Gasol went down, of course.

    But I really see a rotation issue. Bynum @ 12 million a year, will NOT be a role player. PJ better get creative.

  • http://www.car.org KoolKell

    A GM, a Proud Man, 80 yrs old, and wheelchair bound, unable to get out, Isolated. Surrounded by lackeys.

  • jhill

    The only real opportunity to fire Rob Ryan would have been after Kiffin’s first year. But with what was going on, no way Al was going to let Kiffin bring in his guy. If Davis was really high on Ryan, he would’ve got the job over Cable last year.

  • Thec

    Post 500, exactly…..

  • vegas raider

    From the Candid Cam article:

    “As terrible as defensive tackle Tommy Kelly looked in jumping offside multiple times, give him credit for doing cardio and sit-ups in the outdoor weight facility for an hour after practice. Best sight of the day.”

    *******************************

    Nothing wrong with that. Tommy Kelly = terrible contract/absolutely terrible player/absolutely not

  • Thec

    Thats why i asked the question who are the constants and how much influence do they have???? Or is this the Al Davis show. Thats not good for business….

  • jhill

    That’s just crazy talk KK …

    You said yourself this team has a lot of talent on it, so has the GM really done that bad of a job rebuilding these past few years?

    We completely sucked arse from a roster standpoint a few years ago, and now we are back on track.

  • http://Raiders.com Oakglenn

    # RaiderDogg Says:
    July 31st, 2009 at 12:05 pm

    OG

    I never denied Rob Ryan’s lineage and his father’s accomplishments including the infamous Kevin Gilbride punch. :)

    I was just stating the facts about his experience. Try not to get all bent out of shape. Plug in that Hammond and play a little Winwood or something.
    ———————————————————-

    Jeez, dog, I was also just stating the facts and I didn’t post my entry with any animosity at all. I don’t know why you guys read anger into every thing I post. Only missedabrain and dud should do that.

    # Dakota Says:
    July 31st, 2009 at 12:05 pm

    Oakglenn,

    So if Ryan wasn’t the problem it must have been the players right? And since we didn’t change much on defense this offseason, I guess what you are saying is that we might as well have no hope for 2009?
    ——————————————————-

    To me, and it took me a while to get this myself, I think most of our defensive problems stemmed from our complete ineptitude on offense. Plus, Kiffin would purposely do crazy stuff to put the defense at a disadvantage. We all talk about how poor our defense was the last few years, well our offense was COMPLETELY dismal. When you are trailing games or in very very tight games, it does not allow the defense to take many chances and let games get out of hand fast.

  • SNB Defense

    jhill Says:
    July 31st, 2009 at 12:16 pm
    The only real opportunity to fire Rob Ryan would have been after Kiffin’s first year. But with what was going on, no way Al was going to let Kiffin bring in his guy. If Davis was really high on Ryan, he would’ve got the job over Cable last year.
    =======================================================
    The palace intrigue has to stop just as much as opposing running backs. Davis admitted as much.

    Like I said, as the defense is concerned…we will know after the 1st week by observing HOW they play and HOW the playcalling evolves. Regardless of the score.

    As for the offense, it just appears that Davis allows the coaches more freedom. Gruden and Kiffin were WCO guys…Turner had his offense and it appears Cable/Tollner are going to have their spin. As long as they take shots deep.

  • Mistabrown

    Billy Beane is a wreckless hack.

    RaiderDogg Says:
    July 31st, 2009 at 11:58 am
    For you A’s fans out there:

    The A’s have traded SS Orlando Cabrera to the Twins for minor league infielder Tyler Ladendorf and cash.

  • Dakota

    We need more than just talented players (and its not like we are bursting with talent anyhow)…we also need a coaching staff that is on the same page and implementing a plan and a GM that obtains players that fit into those plans. Do we have that right now? I guess we shall see won’t we?

  • Thec

    My hope is that the HC revolving door ends. Let this man coach a few years.

  • http://www.Raiders.com DarthPirate

    Props to DHB for catching two straight passes today :D

    And I hate Billy Beane.

  • Mistabrown

    Well thats what you get for thinking! Whats in your head 2 empty beer cans and a marble ? How a alleged “grown man” can be this brain dead & naive is beyond me.

    Oakglenn Says:
    July 31st, 2009 at 12:25 pm

    To me, and it took me a while to get this myself, I think most of our defensive problems stemmed from our complete ineptitude on offense.

  • Thec

    Post 520, I knew the fight was coming, just happened quicker than i thought…..

  • Thec

    Question for Oakglenn, and Mistabrown have you two ever met in real life?

  • Mistabrown

    You are the resident expert on trolling so you tell us. My great name was used on #221 I expect it was none other than you.

    # Oakglenn Says:
    July 31st, 2009 at 11:40 am

    So we are back to the old school trolling of the past?? I thought they got that fixed.

  • Mo Bigsley

    This is going to sound insane, but I’m looking forward to Javon Walker’s return to the field. Based on his health being consisted, I think this is the year he finally turns it around

    - He agreed to drastically restructure his contract to prove on the field and stay on the team

    - He demonstrated leadership early with some of our young receivers, notable Shilens

    - With the addition of veteran leaders like Garcia, Neal and Ellis, Javon seems eager to embrace his role as the veteran leader of the receivers

    True, he’s still aloof in many ways (the unreported surgery this summer), but some of his actions so far have been positive.

    Finally – and most importantly – how huge if he were to put up big numbers!

  • Mistabrown

    Thec, how would that happen?

  • AZ Raider

    Twocents Says:
    July 31st, 2009 at 11:45 am
    What is the carbon footprint of a pixel?

    Trillions of pixels are wasted every day.

    Save the pixels!
    ……………………………………………….

    Yeah, and Southwick is a long last name too, and they they even spell out the first name Danny Southwick…. That’s alot of wasted pixles. Try D.S., or 4th strg, or something short…

  • Dakota

    Oakglenn,

    I don’t know that your explanation can account for the 2007 season. Kiffin wasn’t purposefully doing things in those games to put the defense in bad spots, in fact, we actually had an advantage in time of possession with our offense controlling the clock with the running game, and yet Rob Ryan’s defense blew how many 4th quarter leads that year? 4? 5? I can’t remember anymore…it was like a nightmare.

    How could Kiffin not want a new DC after that? Our supposed great passing defense from 2006 was proven to be a sham, nothing more than a result of teams not having to pass against us because we couldn’t score or stop the run in 2006. no matter who his dad is or what his brother has done, Rob Ryan was a miserable failure in Oakland…let’s see what he can do in Cleveland running a 3-4…

  • no more infield…

    Wow looks like the same morons are still posting here… Anyome who thinks DHB is a bust at this point of training camp is an idiot. The guy is going to be unreal. comparing him to crabtree is a joke. crabtree came from a gimmicky system with a good qb. DHB played with four noodle armed qbs in a prostyle set. DHB was so fast that they had to line him up back off the line several yards so his qb would have a chance… Crabs is a possession guy and we already have one of those in schillens who is bigger and faster than crabtree and also comes with a lot less baggage.

  • Thec

    Mistabrown, I would assume that both of you would attend a NATION home game.

  • Thec

    Bottom line, Rob Ryan sucked as the DCO…..
    You “pros” can try and justify it but the tape
    speaks volumes. Ryan was and is a lousy tactician.

  • Mistabrown

    Rob Ryan would have coached them down & got less out of them than any other NFL DC.

    # Al Davis Has Cojones Says:
    July 31st, 2009 at 11:28 am

    Rob Ryan would have been better if he had Ray Lewis, Ed Reed, and Terrell Suggs on the team.

  • http://www.dannysouthwick.com DO NOT HATE ON MY BOY SOUTHWICK

    Mo Bigsley = Javon Walker?

  • Thec

    Mo Bigsley = Jerry Mac

  • http://www.dannysouthwick.com DO NOT HATE ON MY BOY SOUTHWICK

    AZ Raider Says:
    July 31st, 2009 at 12:37 pm
    Twocents Says:
    July 31st, 2009 at 11:45 am
    What is the carbon footprint of a pixel?

    Trillions of pixels are wasted every day.

    Save the pixels!
    ……………………………………………….

    Yeah, and Southwick is a long last name too, and they they even spell out the first name Danny Southwick…. That’s alot of wasted pixles. Try D.S., or 4th strg, or something short…

    ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

    AZ Raider, you left out the other Z in your name.

  • Mistabrown

    Thec, its possible you and I were also at a game. But did we meet? No. Did we sit in the same section? No. Did we sit in the same row? No.

    Get my drift ?

  • Mistabrown

    Cash for clunkers is already out of funds & dealers havent been reimbursed for cars they have sold! Cant for GOVT to wreck our health care system!

    Liberals are wreckless morons.

  • AZ Raider

    Where does the other “Z” go Danny?

    …don’t tell me, right after the 1st one right?

  • kvn

    could i get someone to paste jerry mcdonalds twitter adress

  • http://Raiders.com Oakglenn

    Mistabrown Says:
    July 31st, 2009 at 12:36 pm

    You are the resident expert on trolling so you tell us. My great name was used on #221 I expect it was none other than you.
    ——————————————————-

    Actually, I came in here yesterday morning, and noticed that the registration wall was down and I was the first person in here being trolled. Seeing that, I did not return for the rest of the day. Why be here arguing with the likes of ignorant fools like yourself and then have to deal with trolls besides. In other words, no, it was not me.

  • http://Raiders.com Oakglenn

    # Mistabrown Says:
    July 31st, 2009 at 12:31 pm

    Well thats what you get for thinking! Whats in your head 2 empty beer cans and a marble ? How a alleged “grown man” can be this brain dead & naive is beyond me.

    Oakglenn Says:
    July 31st, 2009 at 12:25 pm

    To me, and it took me a while to get this myself, I think most of our defensive problems stemmed from our complete ineptitude on offense.
    —————————————————-

    See that’s the problem with this guy. He does not have the depth of brain power to understand a concept like this. If a pitcher is winning a game 10-0, he can do things he wouldn’t do in a tie game. If a defense knows their offense is going to put up points, they will address things differently. A defense, in overtime, knows the opponent has the best field goal kicker in the league, they know they have to do things differently. All these things are inter-related. Your offense, defense and special teams affect your other teams on your same side. It happens in all of sports. Coaches and GM’s know this and so do Most excellent sports fans. Imbeciles do not understand it.

  • Mistabrown

    Yeah ok thats the reason our defense played with no discipline, out of position, vanilla, soft, and didnt hold gaps.

    Nevermind we had good time of possession with our running game & the defense came out of the tunnel and gave up 80 yards TD drives.

    Pokeglenn what you are saying isnt complex, its not going over my head. I completely understand the point you are trying to make. The problem with it is…its utterly retraded.

  • http://Raiders.com Oakglenn

    You know I could (once again) prove you have NO IDEA what you are talking about, but it is old hat now. It used to be entertaining watching you humiliate yourself. Now it’s just sad. And that complete Chernobyl you had the other day was scary.

  • The KP Show

    Andrew Walter did get a raw deal with us but I honestly didn’t see much talent in him after he replaced pissy Aaron Brooks in the Baltimore Ravens game a couple of years ago. I hope that he can get some time somewhere and prove that he can get it done.

    As far as DHB goes, the media needs to let him do his thing and learn the pro game like every other receiver has had to do when they first get to the league. They are using him to keep trying to kick the Nation while they feel we are down.

    I do feel that we are gonna turn this around this year. Once the youngsters start to grow up in camp. They are gonna learn that winning is fun and tell everybody to kiss their #^$.

  • Raiders757

    It’s pretty obvious that DHB catches more passes than he drops, so why is it that people go out of their way to report only on the drops? Why not report on the good things along with the bad, and stop fueling the anti-Raiders hate parade with ammo?

    The more I read your reports, the more I realize that shouldn’t be allowed to report on anything that involves the Raiders. Your articles are starting to scream if bias and hatred for the team.