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DHB drops in for practice

By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Thursday, July 30th, 2009 at 7:26 pm in Oakland Raiders.

Let’s be fair about it. It wasn’t exactly an optimum situation to go out for your first pass as a rookie first-round draft pick with a reported $23.5 million guranteed in your back pocket.

All the other Raiders receivers had been going through warm-ups together, catching some passes, while Darrius Heyward-Bey got in a little late while his contract was finalized.

But the Raiders couldn’t resist taking their high-speed toy for a test drive, and after he was done being stretched by a trainer, Heyward-Bey took the field. He went vertical of course, lining up on the left side and streaking 35 yards downfield.

Quarterback Charlie Frye arched a somewhat wobbly pass his way. Heyward-Bey got his hands on it, then it clanked to the ground.

“Didn’t get no balls before I got out there,’’ Heyward-Bey said. “That’s not good. But coach was like, `Go out there.’ And after that play it was like, `Well, you didn’t get any balls. He was like, `OK, that was my fault.’ Just the first day, getting out there right after the warmup. Things happen.’’

Afterward, the Raiders went to team sessions where there were no passes thrown. Instead was a procession of quick whistles and choreography, making sure they were lined up correctly, making the right reads. Footwork was checked.

At one point, passing game coordinator Ted Tollner called Heyward-Bey over told him of a mistake in a pass route.

As usual, there is little drama when it comes to the Raiders and their draft picks. The Raiders remain among the NFL’s best when it comes to bringing in their draft picks, with the JaMarcus Russell impasse the only blemish.

“I was aware of that, and I felt like it was headed in the right direction and it would get done so I had some comfort with it, but at the same time I wanted all of them here at the first meeting. He is here now and we worked today and he will get right into the flow of things.’’

Heyward-Bey, who proclaimed his hamstring ready to go (he missed time during mandatory minicamp and the OTAs), said he didn’t want to wait around until the 49ers Michael Crabtree signed or get the proper slot between Nos. 6 (Andre Smith) and 8 (Eugene Monroe) .

“I’ve always been concerned with myself and only me from Day 1,’’ Heyward-Bey said. “ I really can’t worry about what everybody else is doing. We were focusing on being a Raider and that’s it.’’

More news and notes from the second practice:

– Moments after Heyward-Bey went to the field house to get his equipment on and join his teammates, Andrew Walter made his way off the practice field for the last time, having been given his freedom.

He had just received the news he had been hoping for and was looking forward to a “good vibe’’ and new employer.

“I’m very excited for a fresh start,’’ Walter said. “We’ll see what happens. The only thing different that I would have hoped for is that it would have happened earlier. Things haven’t changed since February and it occurred just now. The timing is something I can’t control.’’

The Raiders gave permission Walter to seek a trade in the offseason, but with clubs knowing to a reasonable certainty he would be cut eventually, there were no takers. Walter, the one-time quarterback of the future whose Raiders career will forever be linked to Tom Walsh, Art Shell and the “Bed and Breakfast’’ offense, should get a shot somewhere.

Seattle, where Greg Knapp is the offensive coordinator, is a possibility. So is Denver, where Josh McDaniels isn’t as much of a stickler for mobile quarterbacks as Mike Shanahan was.

– Guard Paul McQuistan, who had offseason knee surgery, sat out the second practice, as did fullback Oren O’Neal. Derrick Burgess remained a no-show.

Chris Morris worked with the first team at left guard, followed by Mark Wilson.

– Tommy Kelly left briefly to have his ankle worked on, but returned to practice and didn’t jump offsides.

– Cable made a point after the morning session to that it didn’t matter much until Monday who worked with the first and second teams.

Still, it was at least mildly interesting that Stanford Routt got more work with the first team defense than did Chris Johnson, who signed the stealth off-season contract with a $4 million signing bonus.

– There isn’t much time before the whistle to make a play, but on one snap Jon Alston knifed through and got his hands on Darren McFadden on a sweep to the left.

– Details continued to be a priority, with defensive coordinator John Marshall reminding Gerard Warren about where he lined up, “Don’t get in there too tight, Gerard,’’ Marshall said.

– The run defense isn’t the only area where the Raiders plan to tighten things up. The media is now restricted to a 30-yard box on each field. Instead of being able to walk from field to field around an end zone, as in past years, a Raiders employee must lead the way.

I’ll refrain from calling it an “escort service.’’

Makes for an almost impossible view in some cases when the team is near the 50-yard line and players are in the way.

At one point, the guide was forced to stop near a stack of pads used for drills. When two reporters sat down for a moment, the cell phone of the security guard rang almost instantly.

“You have to get up,’’ he said somewhat reluctantly.

– The Raiders became the sixth team to get all their draft picks signed, joining Baltimore, Chicago, the New York Jets, Pittsburgh and Atlanta.

The Bears had no first-round pick and the Jets just three picks overall.

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  • Dakota

    Thanks Dogg!

  • http://sportmag.us/images/Lester_Hayes_November_1981.jpg RaiderDogg

    Thec

    no problem. Here is the latest tweet from Raiders.com:

    Practice is over and head coach Tom Cable has addressed the media, highlights coming up on Behind the Shield: Online

  • http://www.dannysouthwick.com DO NOT HATE ON MY BOY SOUTHWICK

    OK guys, I have been a bit over the top on Southwick I admit. But he has never settlesd into a program for long, has a cannon, and is a smart, mature kid (27 yrs. old).

    He COULD be a late bloomer who never got a chance to grow in a Div 1 program. Hackett dug him up, so don’t go overboard pronouncing him a nobody. Those stats just don’t tell the whole story…

    He could be another Kurt Warner, so try and resist the rush to judge. It WOULD be a great story for all of us, not just the Oxy alums like me and Barack.

  • AZ Raider

    jerry Tweets:

    “Marshall says it’s about time for a pick. In drill where QBs dont pass the ball. Honest.”
    ……………………………………………….

    Well, at least he’s making it hard on the defense :)

  • lefty12

    i’m sure Davis had influence over Ryan.i’m pretty sure he influenced the game plans.but during games it was all on RR.i don’t buy the garbage that AD calls down during games to influence game calls.as for RR sticking around for 5 years,i gave my ideas on it the other day.AD is friends with and respects Buddy,therefore Rob was given a lot of rope.

  • http://sportmag.us/images/Lester_Hayes_November_1981.jpg RaiderDogg

    Dakota

    I guess you can exhale a little now. Odom finally put the bong down and pulled his head out of his ass just long enough to sign on the dotted line.

    I still can’t believe he didn’t want to come to the Warriors.

  • AZ Raider

    I’m not hating on Southwick. If he turns into a stud, he turns into a stud, and that’s great… But at this point its a waste of pixels to type about him.

  • SNB Defense

    lefty12 Says:
    July 31st, 2009 at 11:21 am
    i’m sure Davis had influence over Ryan.i’m pretty sure he influenced the game plans.but during games it was all on RR.i don’t buy the garbage that AD calls down during games to influence game calls.as for RR sticking around for 5 years,i gave my ideas on it the other day.AD is friends with and respects Buddy,therefore Rob was given a lot of rope.
    =======================================================
    Well Davis needs to backoff the game planning too. Cable hired John Marshall to lead the defense. I would hope that Davis vetted Marshall’s philosophy before giving CAble the green light. There is no reason for Davis to be influencing anything except during the hire & fire phase.

    AS for loyalty to Buddy Ryan. That’s B.S. Is it about winning or what?

    I am frustrated with all this extracurricular stuff. Hire the professionals and be done with it. Evaluate them fairly and make decisions based on what happened on the field and wins and losses.

  • Thec

    Lefty12, With the current state i am not sure if Mr. Davis was in on it or not. In my opinion RR was a lousy tactician during games, he will get to prove how bad he was with his new team.
    RR = the garbage man.

  • SNB Defense

    I mean…Al Davis stuck with coaches that apparently was so incompetent that Tom Cable has to do a week worth of walk-throughs just to reset the basic fundamentals.

    What the hell was going on the last few years?

  • Dakota

    Dogg,

    I am very relieved. If the Lakers had lost Odom and Ariza after dumping draft picks (one of which could have been DeJuan Blair to replace Odom’s minutes at the 4 spot) it would have been a major set back. Now everything is locked and loaded for a three year run.

    Hey, what is the deal with the George deal? Just trying to dump young talent to free up playing time for the rookie Curry?

  • Thec

    Post 457,

    Waste of pixels…LOL

  • Al Davis Has Cojones

    Rob Ryan would have been better if he had Ray Lewis, Ed Reed, and Terrell Suggs on the team.

  • Thec

    SNB Defense, So you would like the club to be run like a real NFL organization. What a novel concept.

  • lefty12

    calm down.i didn’t say i agreed with it,just giving a perspective.it has been said Davis didn’t particularly care for all of Cables choices.it makes you wonder if Marshall wasn’t one of them because he has been around so long and won’t listen to Davis’ meddling.as for the Buddy thing,that may not be the case,i just think that is one of the reasons he was allowed to stick around-right or wrong.

  • jhill

    It is what it is with Al, SnB.

    Blessing and a curse, if you will. There is no disputing his football knowledge. And he owns the team. How can you expect him to seperate the 2? Working for an owner who know as much or more about what you are doing than you do can’t be easy.

    You have seen all types of O’s and D’s run by the Raiders under Al’s watch. WCO, 3-4 defense, vertical, etc. We’ve seen it all, yet we keep hearing this Al’s way business.

    Just Win DC, and you will be ok!

  • http://Raiders.com Oakglenn

    # SNB Defense Says:
    July 31st, 2009 at 11:26 am

    I mean…Al Davis stuck with coaches that apparently was so incompetent that Tom Cable has to do a week worth of walk-throughs just to reset the basic fundamentals.

    What the hell was going on the last few years?
    —————————————————-

    Not necessarily just us. Singletary and the Whiners are doing the exact same thing. Seems like the blocking and tackling in the league has dropped in quality over the last few years, especially among some of the bottom echelon teams. The top echelon teams seem to block and tackle well. Good place to start practice.

  • http://sportmag.us/images/Lester_Hayes_November_1981.jpg RaiderDogg

    Dakota

    Not too sure the logic behind the George/Bellinelli deal. I do know that Nellie wasn’t too high on him. They are already expecting big things out of Curry after his decent showing in Vegas. A couple of W’s did some good things over there and I am optimistic about the upcoming season. I still wish that they would get a fukkin legit big man. It literally has been YEARS!

  • Thec

    I have a question.
    What changed after the 2002 season was over?

    We never in the history of this franchise had it this bad.

    Did we add or subtract some keys out of the front office?

    Who are the constants, like trask, herrera et al…

  • AZ Raider

    Al Davis Has Cojones Says:
    July 31st, 2009 at 11:28 am
    Rob Ryan would have been better if he had Ray Lewis, Ed Reed, and Terrell Suggs on the team.

    ……………………………………………….

    Name a DC who wouldn’t have been, and your point might hold water :)

  • Dakota

    Any GM that hires a 3-4 DC and then forces him to run a 4-3 and then keeps him around for years despite the fact that the guy clearly cannot coach should have his GM card pulled forever.

    And just because Mangina hired the guy to coach a 3-4 doesn’t justify what happened in Oakland with the guy.

  • http://Raiders.com Oakglenn

    So we are back to the old school trolling of the past?? I thought they got that fixed.

  • RaiderGator

    RaiderGator Says:
    July 31st, 2009 at 11:35 am
    “I try to let the money go away. But since other people bring it up, it is something that a lotta people that have been playing football their whole life and the work they put in as a kid up to now they final got paid for it.” – JRuss
    ——————————————————-
    Must be REAL tough playing football for a living. Some of us play football our whole lives while still applying ourselves to an Art/Science/Business, then have to actually *WORK* for a living!!

    Must be real hard work playing football, though. Glad you’re finally getting paid for all your HARD work JaMarcus. You certainly deserve that $60mill.

  • AZ Raider

    Thec Says:
    July 31st, 2009 at 11:38 am
    I have a question.
    What changed after the 2002 season was over?

    We never in the history of this franchise had it this bad.

    Did we add or subtract some keys out of the front office?

    Who are the constants, like trask, herrera et al…
    ……………………………………………….

    What your REALLY asking is what happened after 2001.

    We lost our coach, front office staff, assistant coaches… 2002 lost our QB, WR’s and RB… LOl… the list goes on.

  • http://sportmag.us/images/Lester_Hayes_November_1981.jpg RaiderDogg

    Dakota

    When Rob Ryan was hired he had never even been a DC. He was a LB Coach that had experience working in the 3-4 defense. Still a valid point though. Unless you were intending on running a 3-4 D, why would you bring in some young coach to run a new scheme he wasn’t experienced in?

  • lefty12

    things like that go on in the league all the time.nepotisum is alive and well in the NFL.

  • jhill

    Sapp forced the 3-4 to the scrap heap, not Al Davis.

  • SNB Defense

    Lefty12, JHill, and all

    I am not here to slam on Al Davis. My concern going into this season is that everyone says the right things (fundamentals, pressure the QB, gap control) and so on…then we see something totally different on game day.

    I guess I am venting a little bit. Marshall seems to be doing the right things. I just hope the Davis stuff isn’t true. But keeping a bad coach like Ryan or Kiffin around for so long has to be cause for concern from any observer.

    Davis is the owner and the Raiders his property. But as with anything, when things aren’t running right, a good owner looks at everything…including himself and makes changes accordingly.

    To me it about seeing this defense attack people and play downhill as Morrison says. Week 1 is everything. Not necessarily with the scoreboard, the Chargers are a good team, but just in how this team plays the game.

    We will have all the answer we need after week 1

  • Twocents

    What is the carbon footprint of a pixel?

    Trillions of pixels are wasted every day.

    Save the pixels!

  • RaiderGator

    By the way JaMarcus…..I know football is real hard work and I’m glad you’re finally getting paid. But….you think that $60mill could buy some time on the treadmill?…..Or do you need a little more incentive?

  • http://www.dannysouthwick.com DO NOT HATE ON MY BOY SOUTHWICK

    AZ Raider Says:
    July 31st, 2009 at 11:22 am
    I’m not hating on Southwick. If he turns into a stud, he turns into a stud, and that’s great… But at this point its a waste of pixels to type about him.

    :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

    Its a waste to chat about an unknown Qb signed by the Oakland Raiders? AZ, how about you eat some sh!t? It would be a waste to flush it all down the toilet…

  • Dakota

    Jhill…why hire a 3-4 DC and then sign Warren Sapp? Wait, I guess he did the same thing with D. Hall. Either Al Davis is no longer with it enough to recognize that certain players fit certain schemes, or he is dumb enough to allow his coaches to talk him into such silly moves…either way, Al fuked it up big time.

  • Dakota

    Same with Jeff Garcia…why bother signing a QB that can’t throw the ball 20 yards in this offense? I guess only if you wanted the QB to be a mentor to Russell and show him how to work for success…but someone should have asked Garcia if he was willing to do that before they signed him.

  • http://Raiders.com Oakglenn

    # Thec Says:
    July 31st, 2009 at 11:38 am

    I have a question.
    What changed after the 2002 season was over?

    We never in the history of this franchise had it this bad.

    Did we add or subtract some keys out of the front office?

    Who are the constants, like trask, herrera et al…
    ——————————————————-

    Here, I can answer that. Contrary to popular opinion on this blog, During the 2000-2002 run Davis took a step back and let Gruden, Allen, Lombardi have a large say in what was going on around here. They did some good things, but in the end, they drove the franchise over a cliff. Right now, we should have a bunch of 6,7, 8 year players who are excelling right now. Just like Pittsburgh. We don’t. Think I am kidding?? Look at the last Gruden/Allen Tampon Bay roster. Galloway (14 years), Hilliard (12), Pettigout 10), Garcia (10), Carter (14), Hovan (9) Brooks (14), Barber (12) and other than Brooks and ronde Barber, Gruden/Allen didn’t draft ANY of those players. Basically, Gruden filled the rosters of both the Raiders and Bucs with old veterans, that when it came time to rebuild, both franchises had HUGE messes on their hands. Al Davis then went Al Davis and tried to “rebuild not reload” and things went downhill further from there. And the hiring of Art Shell II certainly did not help.

  • RaiderGator

    SNB Defense.

    There are realists and there are those OD’ing on the Kool-Aid. You’ll never convince the Kool-Aid posse that any of this is Davis’ fault. You see, it was Kiffin’s fault for coming here and convincing Davis to hire him. It was Ryan’s fault for coming here for an interview then not kicking himself out when his defense didn’t produce. How dare he stay here and collect free money?! Why didn’t he fire himself?

    How dare Javon Walker take all that free money when he knew he wasn’t 100% and wouldn’t collect half that much from any other team?

    Kelly too! He shouldn’t have accepted all that money! DeAngelo? Same thing. He should have said “ummm….case you haven’t noticed, I’m a little overrated and not a man cover guy”. But…Nnnnooooo!!! Did he say that?

    It’s their fault – not Davis!

  • jhill

    Never agreed with the hiring of a LB coach with no DC experience. I’ve said that a million times. Yes, Al did F that up. For the most part, I have no problem with the personell Al has brought in. It’s been the coaching moves that have derailed this thing.

  • http://sportmag.us/images/Lester_Hayes_November_1981.jpg RaiderDogg

    latest tweet:

    Jerrymcd Javon Walker: When they let me loose, it s on after that.

  • Dakota

    Just seems like there isn’t a plan in place around here. Seems like there is a lot of just rolling the dice and hoping it works.

  • SNB Defense

    Oakglenn Says:
    July 31st, 2009 at 11:36 am

    Not necessarily just us. Singletary and the Whiners are doing the exact same thing. Seems like the blocking and tackling in the league has dropped in quality over the last few years, especially among some of the bottom echelon teams. The top echelon teams seem to block and tackle well. Good place to start practice.
    =======================================================
    But there is no one even daring to question who’s in charge of what happens on the field and the preparation of the game plans in San Francisco. To me that’s the big difference.

    BTW, I understand why this happens. Davis was a former coach and a GM and had success. But Davis needs to realize that he won’t get the best out of his people unless he trusts them and lets them do their jobs. When I say that…I mean coaches shouldn’t have to worry about getting called to the Principal’s because a blitz didn’t work in the 4th QTR.

    Evaluate the coaches at the end of the season…or perhaps at the end of 2 or 3 seasons.

    Stick to hiring and firing…and put more time in on the scouting side.

  • http://sportmag.us/images/Lester_Hayes_November_1981.jpg RaiderDogg

    for those that give a sh!t about the Vick Saga:

    So much for the Vick-to-Pats rumors
    Posted by Mike Florio on July 31, 2009 2:45 PM ET
    Though the door can’t be closed on the possibility that the Patriots will pursue quarterback Mike Vick (primarily because New England coach Bill Belichick didn’t close the door today when he had a chance to do so), those rumors of Vick being in Foxborough today can be disregarded as just that — rumors.

    Vick, per the Associated Press, was in federal bankruptcy court again today, where creditors are poised to vote on his plan to repay some of the money that he owes them.

    Here’s the money quote from Larry O’Dell of the AP: “Vick declined to answer reporters’ questions before and after a hearing Friday on his Chapter 11 bankruptcy plan.”

    So there you have it. Vick wasn’t in New England today. He might go tomorrow or the next day, but he wasn’t there today.

  • http://www.car.org KoolKell

    Dakota

    Same with DeAngelo Hall. He hires a Zone Corner to Play Man 2 Man. Then has to throw the 8 million down the drain.

    80yr old man, wheelchair bound. Those logistics alone are not compatible with with running an organization. Can you imagine how isolating that is?

  • http://sportmag.us/images/Lester_Hayes_November_1981.jpg RaiderDogg

    For you A’s fans out there:

    The A’s have traded SS Orlando Cabrera to the Twins for minor league infielder Tyler Ladendorf and cash.

  • SNB Defense

    And I am not the only one with some concerns about the topic of coaching freedom going into the season:

    From David White Twitter:

    “Defense is practicing a lot more blitz than normal.
    We’ll see if that makes it to season. They did it camp last year too to no avail.
    about 1 hour ago from web”

  • DirtyBathWater

    Lmao!!!!!!!@ 481

  • http://Raiders.com Oakglenn

    # RaiderDogg Says:
    July 31st, 2009 at 11:41 am

    Dakota

    When Rob Ryan was hired he had never even been a DC. He was a LB Coach that had experience working in the 3-4 defense. Still a valid point though. Unless you were intending on running a 3-4 D, why would you bring in some young coach to run a new scheme he wasn’t experienced in?
    ——————————————————–

    Rob Ryan has been around Professional football his ENTIRE life. He has been around the best defensive minds in the world since he was little. His dad INVENTED the 46 which is run in both the pro and college levels. Again, contrary to popular belief on this blog, we would see the 46 run HERE a couple of times a game. He won two rings in NE. For him to come here and run a 4/3 is not difficult for a guy like that.

  • http://www.dannysouthwick.com DO NOT HATE ON MY BOY SOUTHWICK

    Tyler Ladendorf could be the Danny Southwick of MLB.

  • Dakota

    Jhill, are you happy to see Lamar back in purple and gold?

  • RaiderGator

    RaiderDogg Says:
    July 31st, 2009 at 11:58 am
    For you A’s fans out there:

    The A’s have traded SS Orlando Cabrera to the Twins for minor league infielder Tyler Ladendorf and cash.
    ——————————————————-
    And cash? Sounds like our Raiders.

  • http://sportmag.us/images/Lester_Hayes_November_1981.jpg RaiderDogg

    OG

    I never denied Rob Ryan’s lineage and his father’s accomplishments including the infamous Kevin Gilbride punch. :)

    I was just stating the facts about his experience. Try not to get all bent out of shape. Plug in that Hammond and play a little Winwood or something.

  • Dakota

    Oakglenn,

    So if Ryan wasn’t the problem it must have been the players right? And since we didn’t change much on defense this offseason, I guess what you are saying is that we might as well have no hope for 2009?