Opening practice news and notes
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Thursday, July 30th, 2009 at 1:28 pm in Oakland Raiders.
Some news and notes from the Raiders first training camp practice:
–It was a good day to have technical difficulties. Couldn’t get a signal for a blog or twitter updates for most of the morning, but no matter.
There was not much of note from the Raiders first practice, which drew rave reviews from Tom Cable and his players but wasn’t much to watch.
In Cable’s “learning intensive’’ practices, there is little to watch after the snap of the ball. The whistle blows quickly _ before the quarterback throws the ball on pass plays _ and all that matters is footwork and alignment.
Cable and a handful of players consider it a valuable use of time leading into Monday’s padded practice. We’ll take them at their word.
– Javon Walker opened camp on the active Physically Unable to Perform list. Cable said there is no timetable and that he’ll be evaluated in two or three days.
Walker seemed to think differently.
“Probably about two or three weeks,’’ Walker said. “That’s the time frame they have.’’
– Russell named four receivers as having attended his off-the-radar passing camp in Alabama _ Todd Watkins, Louis Murphy, Will Franklin and Jonathan Holland.
– No official announcement by the Raiders regarding the signing of top pick Darrius Heyward-Bey. Cable said he understood progress has been made. Wouldn’t be surprised if Heyward-Bey was at today’s second practice.
– It hasn’t been learning intensive for quarterback Andrew Walter. He didn’t get a single snap during a team session that I saw, although I suppose it’s possible one happened while I was trying to get a phone signal. Much of the time he wasn’t even wearing a helmet.
If Heyward-Bey is at the second practice, Walter may be the one to make room.
– Right tackle Cornell Green got in a minor skirmish during the three-quarter speed session with rookie end Matt Shaughnessy, then threatened him after they were separated. On the next play, Shaughnessy jumped offsides and gave Green a playful tap on the helmet.
– By at least one count, Tommy Kelly jumped offsides on three separate snaps.
– Ah, the life of the kickers. Sebastian Janikowski headed for the field house by 10:15 a.m. Shane Lechler took some deep snaps during a punting drill, but never kicked the ball _ the JUGS machine did it for him.
– Linebacker Ricky Brown got work at both strong side linebacker and middle linebacker with the first team.
The depth charts looked a lot like they did in the offseason, but Cable said to pay them no mind. Pecking orders at various positions won’t begin to be established until Monday.
– Gallery said he wasn’t sure exactly how long he would be out. His designation was on the reserve non-football illness/injury list, also called PUP/illness. He can be activiated at any time, just as Walker can.
– Oren O’Neal participated in the morning session and is likely to sit out in the second practice, which begins at 4:20 p.m.
– They’re not going to say it on the record, but some of Derrick Burgess teammates are perplexed by his now-show tactic.
He’ll be out a lot of money in fines, isn’t helping his trade value any and public issues with Al Davis over money seldom end well.
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July 30th, 2009 at 1:30 pm
First…
Thanks Jerry!
July 30th, 2009 at 1:30 pm
1st?? whooptie doo
July 30th, 2009 at 1:35 pm
I am still wondering why the Cable didn’t use that extra mandatory mini-camp afforded to 1st yr coaches. Especially with the focus on such basic fundamentals.
July 30th, 2009 at 1:37 pm
DHB’s a punk. We should have taken Crabtree. I might actually root for the Niners now. Fug Al davis.
July 30th, 2009 at 1:38 pm
Thanks, Jerry! Again– Nice job!!
repost
Here’s to DHB earning every dime of that contract! It’s hard to temper my enthusiasm, when a kid has this much potential…BUT, we all need to remember he’s only “just another rook” until he does anything. Same thing for Mike Mitchell, et al.
Because of the over-hype of the so-called “reaches” Al took to get DHB and MM, they will now be some of the most (the most?) scrutinized draft picks in all of football.
Physically, both guys have the bodies and the tools/gifts to make it…now, do they have what it takes to really contribute at a high level as rookies? If they’re not, is the team good enough with others starting in front of them?
I hate the fact we may need to rely on the rookies. I’d much rather we see the rookies push the vets fighting for their jobs…and they’ll all be better for it. If one-of-every-two new guys on the team blossoms into good pro’s right away, it would be a HUGE success story.
MMMmmm…football.
July 30th, 2009 at 1:38 pm
Youz a punk, Jerry! Bla haa!
July 30th, 2009 at 1:39 pm
Hayez, thanks for reposting your comment, for us to all NOT read again.
July 30th, 2009 at 1:39 pm
They got to camp early just for these pactices. Alot of teams dont report until Friday.
July 30th, 2009 at 1:40 pm
Time for some sticky purple and a stick of butter in my ass.
July 30th, 2009 at 1:40 pm
stryker sulak, picked up by the patrioits. Wonder if he
will stick?
July 30th, 2009 at 1:40 pm
– Russell named four receivers as having attended his off-the-radar passing camp in Alabama _ Todd Watkins, Louis Murphy, Will Franklin and Jonathan Holland.
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Louis Murphy wants to play–that’s the action of a leader
July 30th, 2009 at 1:40 pm
Green has Anger management issues!!
July 30th, 2009 at 1:41 pm
SNB Defense Says:
July 30th, 2009 at 1:35 pm
I am still wondering why the Cable didn’t use that extra mandatory mini-camp afforded to 1st yr coaches. Especially with the focus on such basic fundamentals.
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Perhaps because Hackett/Tollner had not finished drawing up the passing offense yet? It appears they are putting a lot of new stuff in now. It probably took Al too long to edit/approve the playbook…
July 30th, 2009 at 1:41 pm
The whistle blows quickly _ before the quarterback throws the ball on pass plays _ and all that matters is footwork and alignment.
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Jerry Mac doesn’t think this is important?
the #1 thing Russell needed to work on this offseason was footwork! and look how many false starts we had on the o-line last year! alignment and timing of the snap is crucial …
July 30th, 2009 at 1:43 pm
While we’re facing technical difficulties at the moment, the site is still being moderated and we are logging IP addresses. I’m looking at you, Brien, you dumb negro.
July 30th, 2009 at 1:43 pm
Its no wonder the drama queen Brien is sucking azz on the drama queen Crabtree…
Crabtree = Michael Westbrook
July 30th, 2009 at 1:44 pm
the #1 thing Russell needed to work on this offseason was footwork! and look how many false starts we had on the o-line last year! alignment and timing of the snap is crucial …
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By at least one count, Tommy Kelly jumped offsides on three separate snaps.
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Sounds like the extra work isn’t helping with Kelly..
July 30th, 2009 at 1:45 pm
Wow. We’re off to a great start today, aren’t we?
July 30th, 2009 at 1:46 pm
LMAO @ #15.
July 30th, 2009 at 1:46 pm
# HayesDaze#37 Says:
July 30th, 2009 at 1:38 pm
Physically, both guys have the bodies and the tools/gifts to make it…now, do they have what it takes to really contribute at a high level as rookies? If they’re not, is the team good enough with others starting in front of them?
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By saying “Do they have what it takes to really contribute at a high level”
are you in so many words saying “Are they football players?”
LOL
We may never know because Al Davis doesn’t draft football players!
July 30th, 2009 at 1:47 pm
Matt Shaughnessy: beware of any mops in the locker room this evening!
July 30th, 2009 at 1:47 pm
Dig that late-practice start time, JMac.
3-More days of these learnin’ drills are gonna kill everybody. They’re itchin’ to play…itchin’ to hit…
July 30th, 2009 at 1:48 pm
Shaugnessy had better watch out, or he might get “mop handled”.
July 30th, 2009 at 1:49 pm
I wonder if the team is calling the rookie Shaughnessy “Cornell’s Biotch”
July 30th, 2009 at 1:49 pm
RRS…
HA…..
July 30th, 2009 at 1:50 pm
Brien give it up dude ur trying to be funny which you are not. My suggestion to you get another gig
July 30th, 2009 at 1:51 pm
RR,
LMAO, that’s exactly what I was thinking.
July 30th, 2009 at 1:55 pm
Did sulak sign with the Pats??
July 30th, 2009 at 1:56 pm
How funny…
Teabag (again, that’s one hilarious callsign there!) –
Is this the best you can come at me with? A clipped version of something I wrote? Hahaha. Come up with an original thought, instead of hammering others who offer some of theirs…it’s really not that hard.
Teabag Says:
HayesDaze#37 Says:
Physically, both guys have the bodies and the tools/gifts to make it…now, do they have what it takes to really contribute at a high level as rookies? If they’re not, is the team good enough with others starting in front of them?
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By saying “Do they have what it takes to really contribute at a high level”
are you in so many words saying “Are they football players?”
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Ummmm, Teabag/troll — Why not finish my sentence? Because it asks if the guys will be ready “as rookies.”
You trying to make something of my statement — after you chopped it to fit your agenda — just shows you don’t want to talk football in here…just another BS farmer throwing out his seeds, and hoping to engage in a hate-fest.
Sorry, Teabag…chase that tail with your troll buds…I’ve got stuff to do!
July 30th, 2009 at 1:57 pm
Slogan on Cables Raiders T-shirt: “Wanted: 53 men ommitted to one purpose.” http://twitter.com/jerrymcd
Pass the kool-aid.
July 30th, 2009 at 1:57 pm
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July 30th, 2009 at 1:58 pm
I say just trade Burgess to the Lions for a 3rd or a 4th round pick.
July 30th, 2009 at 1:59 pm
This
July 30th, 2009 at 2:00 pm
Jerry,
It’s funny how you mentioned Jamarcus’ weight on your twitter post but not in the blog. WOuld have liked you to specify..!
July 30th, 2009 at 2:00 pm
Oops…Committed…….errrrrr.
July 30th, 2009 at 2:02 pm
Javon Walker is a faggot!
July 30th, 2009 at 2:03 pm
There is absolutely nothing wrong with a fired-up and aggressive Tommy Kelly. Setting an aggressive, I-wanna-work-hard example is good for everybody.
Now, if he’s doing it all day long after a week in pads, we might have a problem.
One guy who jumped off-sides a lot was the great Raider Howie Long. Good thing he was able to overcome it…
July 30th, 2009 at 2:04 pm
teabag, yes sulak is with the pats not sure what the
deal is,or if he can even stick. Makes you wonder
where he was on the patriot board.
July 30th, 2009 at 2:05 pm
hahahahahhaah HayesDaze is not your typical Kool Aid drinker… he holds out every last shred of hope.. And will NOT let the horrible personnel decisions waver his resilient iron will…
Hayes sounds like he drinks beers (or tea) with John Hererra and writes fluff pieces for Raiders.com
I can see it now….
“I really like what I am hearing from Nnamdi… did you hear what Nnamdi said? he said ‘I really like the direction this team is going in, I am really looking forward to the season’…”
“OMG I AM SOOOOOOOOO STOKED BECAUSE NNAMDI SAID WE LOOK FANTASTIC!!!”
“You could just see the passion that Trevor Scott and Matt Shaugnessey shared eating a cheese sandwich at a cafeteria table in Napa – this team is going to be special IM TELLING YOU”
“Oh boy… ITS SOOOOO HARD FOR ME TO CURB MY ENTHUSIASM FOR WHAT I THINK IS GOING TO BE THE YEAR WE TURN THE CORNER…. BUT REALLY LOOKS LIKE ANOTHER SEASON OF WEEK IN AND WEEK OUT ASS WHIPPINS!!!”
Yours Truly,
Daze
July 30th, 2009 at 2:06 pm
Earlier this afternoon, agent Alvin Keels “broke” the terms of Darrius Heyward-Bey’s contract. (Since Keels isn’t DHB’s agent, this marks another odd show of Twitter’s power.)
In the meantime, PFT – namely Florio – has confirmed that the terms Keels presented were accurate. So here they are.
Heyward-Bey will earn $38.250 million over five years in base salary, with $23.5 million guaranteed.
The total max value, if Heyward-Bey hits every last incentive, would be $54 million. (For this to happen, Heyward-Bey’s hamstrings will have to let him practice occasionally.)
The guaranteed money is roughly a 20% bump over Sedrick Ellis’ deal in the same spot last year. The base salary totals go up 14%.
That’s a lot of coin for someone without a great deal of production in college. For point of comparison, Heyward-Bey’s deal looks superior by any measure to the one Greg Jennings signed with Green Bay.
It’s believed that Heyward-Bey’s deal will lead to more first-round signings for the players drafted around him.
Of course, teams may not be so willing to jump on board if they don’t feel like the Raiders got a good deal.
July 30th, 2009 at 2:07 pm
HEY! does somebody have a bridge??? I wanna sell it to HayesDaze rofl!
July 30th, 2009 at 2:07 pm
“Right tackle Cornell Green got in a minor skirmish during the three-quarter speed session with rookie end Matt Shaughnessy”
Well I was half right. I predicted that old Mop Handle would be the first to get in a fight, but I said it would be with Trevor Scott not Shaughnessy.
July 30th, 2009 at 2:09 pm
# Thec Says:
July 30th, 2009 at 2:04 pm
teabag, yes sulak is with the pats not sure what the
deal is,or if he can even stick. Makes you wonder
where he was on the patriot board.
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Well, I will say this much… in further trashing the Raiders joke of a scouting team…
Sulak is a 3-4 rush backer..
The Patriots knew this..
Apparently, the Raiders didn’t until they saw him and said “Wait, we dont like the way this guy looks… what is wrong here?? OHHHH HE IS A 3-4 GUY.. CRAP! MY BAD! CUT HIM LOOSE”
OR – they knew and they drafted him anyway..
I’m guessing it was a combination of the 2
July 30th, 2009 at 2:10 pm
When will coach Cable announce the Jay Richards move to MLB? I am on the edge of my seat with this one! One of THE BEST TRANSFORMATIONS EVER!
July 30th, 2009 at 2:10 pm
If i am not mistaken wasnt sulak taken with the pick we got from the pats?
July 30th, 2009 at 2:13 pm
Look you phukkin numbskeezy I don’t need to be stalked right now, it is affecting my mood greatly.
July 30th, 2009 at 2:14 pm
Post 43, any combination of the 2 = Inept
July 30th, 2009 at 2:14 pm
I also think the Raiders need to think long and hard about moving Tomas Howard to strong saftey. He is real fast.
July 30th, 2009 at 2:15 pm
# Thec Says:
July 30th, 2009 at 2:10 pm
If i am not mistaken wasnt sulak taken with the pick we got from the pats?
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YES! lmfao…
so the soap opera continues..
And now the Pats are looking to rape AL again with Burgess…
AL must have a secret stake in the Pats.
July 30th, 2009 at 2:16 pm
roflmao @ post 49,
yeah he is a minority owner of stock…..
July 30th, 2009 at 2:18 pm
# KoolKell Says:
July 30th, 2009 at 2:14 pm
I also think the Raiders need to think long and hard about moving Tomas Howard to strong saftey. He is real fast.
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well let’s see… here is an off the top history of succesful Raider transformation projects..
Darnell Bing
James Trapp
Tyler Brayton
James Folston
Scott Davis
John Madsen
Yea, I would venture to say that this team can transform ANY guy from one position to another seamlessly
July 30th, 2009 at 2:19 pm
Regarding Sulak, I heard that the Raiders liked his speed and were planning on converting him to a full time DE. After trying, they saw that it wasn’t a good fit for that kind of change.
Thec is right to blame the Scouting dept. They should have worked this kid out before the draft if they had any inkling. He was a late pick, maybe they just saw him on the board and said “screw it, take the Sulak kid”. That is Proffesional draft strategy for you. Does Calvin Branch still scout for the Raiders? How about some real scouts for Florida Pete’s sake!
July 30th, 2009 at 2:20 pm
WHAT ABOUT TRADING BURGESS AND A PICK TO THE PATRIOTS FOR WILFORK?
July 30th, 2009 at 2:20 pm
Teabag aka Arabian Goggles (just messing with you bro)
thats not KK it is a troll pretending, at least I think it is. I would like to think KK is much smarter than that!
July 30th, 2009 at 2:21 pm
Post 51 = classic…..lol
July 30th, 2009 at 2:22 pm
Burg and a 5th for wilfork.
July 30th, 2009 at 2:23 pm
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July 30th, 2009 at 2:24 pm
Steve Wyche of NFL.com reports on his blog DHB will sign contract and practice on Friday.
July 30th, 2009 at 2:25 pm
Ok, so on darren Mcfaddens Twitter Page, he says he is Rooming with Michael Bush in camp… AND, he’s excited about camp and “likes Cables style”!!!
Bush and DMAC show! Here is comes, get ready SD!
July 30th, 2009 at 2:25 pm
# RaiderDogg Says:
July 30th, 2009 at 2:20 pm
Teabag aka Arabian Goggles (just messing with you bro)
thats not KK it is a troll pretending, at least I think it is. I would like to think KK is much smarter than that!
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lol it is Kell, sarcasm at its best…. my comments were tongue in cheek as well..
Anybody with a shred of common sense knows how well the Raider Transformation projects have fared…
and RaiderMario…
Burgess and a pick to the Pats for Wilfork??
Pull the trigger!!
dont think twice… Wilfork is what the doctor ordered for this run D
July 30th, 2009 at 2:27 pm
Wilfork would be an upgrade/and add dept.
hopefully it wont be dburg and like a 1st….
July 30th, 2009 at 2:28 pm
Oh it’s me all right and if anyone questions my moves they should look in the miror. I AM DEAD SERIOUS ABOUT MOVING JAY RICHARDS TO MLB! You suckas can thank me later for my geneus at work.
July 30th, 2009 at 2:33 pm
Now that DHB is signed.
Bet you that, Andrew is in his room waiting for the phone to ring, for that “bring your play book”. call.
Side bet, he probably only un-packed his toothbrush and a clean pair of Haynes.
July 30th, 2009 at 2:34 pm
Question wonder what the success rate is of guys coming
out of college going to the pros only to be transformed
to another postion?
Seems to me that you could do that coing out of high school to college, but pros seems like all guys are
specialist, not saying they cant do more than one thing
just saying the competition is great, which means you
should be great going in to have a good chance.
July 30th, 2009 at 2:36 pm
Thec
what do you know anyways? Nada, nathan, nil
July 30th, 2009 at 2:36 pm
where’s Tard Boy? I feel like kickin some dumass
July 30th, 2009 at 2:37 pm
i love cables shirt “Wanted 53 men committed to one purpose”
July 30th, 2009 at 2:38 pm
If DHB doesn’t report until tomorrow, Al will let Andrew twist another day..
July 30th, 2009 at 2:46 pm
Dmac/Bush both 1,000+ yrds rushing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
July 30th, 2009 at 2:56 pm
does AD really own stock in NE?
July 30th, 2009 at 3:24 pm
I like our chances this year, all I’m hearing is that the players are buying the new regime.
We are a young team, so mistakes are to be expected, but in case all the haters haven’t noticed………..we’ve been building an offense through draft the last few years.
zm, dmac, jruss, dhb, rg, oo, cs and jlh, this could be a prolific offense in the NFL.
It just needs a coach to get them together. I think TC is that guy……but we will see.
July 30th, 2009 at 3:26 pm
Hooray! Brian is back! Man, where have you been the last few weeks, my fashionable little friend? By my count, you’ve missed 482 dumps Krappy has taken in his pants and 18 times the Lady Raccoon has watched her new DVD of Grease.
Anyway Brian, I’m hoping you and your little girlish figure are here to stay – training camp sure is heating up!
July 30th, 2009 at 3:37 pm
Man is it just me, or does it seem like Walker is a lazy SOB trying to get out of the two a days?
July 30th, 2009 at 3:37 pm
maybe styker can help persuade ne to trade us willfork for andrews and burgess since they already got thier sixth rounder back
ne shouold suck als balls for that one
July 30th, 2009 at 3:38 pm
I’m betting Walter is heading to NE to backup Brady.
July 30th, 2009 at 3:43 pm
Twitter is evil!
July 30th, 2009 at 3:45 pm
39. Too funny!
July 30th, 2009 at 4:00 pm
All that money to an unproven college player who’s been unproven all his life…That’s why he played for Maryland. And that’s why he plays for us…oops forgot, the wicked hot 40 time.
Willie Gault, James Jett, Alexander Wright, Rickey Dudley, Alvis Whitted, Kenny Shedd, Mike Williams, Doug Gabriel did I say Rickey Dudley: I’m adding DHB to the list with the hopes that all the homers will be blabbering how I was wrong about the Raiders wasting their money on the 7th pick on him.
My opinion is that five years from now we will still be discussing Louis Murphy on Sunday, not DHB.
July 30th, 2009 at 4:09 pm
I saw some pics from this mornings practice. Russell looks bigger than those OTA photos. Now I’m worried. This is not what you do to show leadership of a team. He has hair and a sloppy beard and looks really out of shape!!
About Crabtree and DHB. Stop it. Raiders picked who they picked. Crabtree is looking like a hold-out situation and DHB has signed. Crabtree is a Chad John/T.O. type, great WR but can really bring a team down in the media.
July 30th, 2009 at 5:13 pm
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July 30th, 2009 at 9:25 pm
With Ellis, Richardson, Shaugnessey, Scott, Gunheim…who needs Burgess? Let him, as usual, sit on his pompus, thuggish ass.
July 31st, 2009 at 12:11 pm
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