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Opening practice news and notes

By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Thursday, July 30th, 2009 at 1:28 pm in Oakland Raiders.

Some news and notes from the Raiders first training camp practice:

–It was a good day to have technical difficulties. Couldn’t get a signal for a blog or twitter updates for most of the morning, but no matter.

There was not much of note from the Raiders first practice, which drew rave reviews from Tom Cable and his players but wasn’t much to watch.

In Cable’s “learning intensive’’ practices, there is little to watch after the snap of the ball. The whistle blows quickly _ before the quarterback throws the ball on pass plays _ and all that matters is footwork and alignment.

Cable and a handful of players consider it a valuable use of time leading into Monday’s padded practice. We’ll take them at their word.

– Javon Walker opened camp on the active Physically Unable to Perform list. Cable said there is no timetable and that he’ll be evaluated in two or three days.

Walker seemed to think differently.

“Probably about two or three weeks,’’ Walker said. “That’s the time frame they have.’’

– Russell named four receivers as having attended his off-the-radar passing camp in Alabama _ Todd Watkins, Louis Murphy, Will Franklin and Jonathan Holland.

– No official announcement by the Raiders regarding the signing of top pick Darrius Heyward-Bey. Cable said he understood progress has been made. Wouldn’t be surprised if Heyward-Bey was at today’s second practice.

– It hasn’t been learning intensive for quarterback Andrew Walter. He didn’t get a single snap during a team session that I saw, although I suppose it’s possible one happened while I was trying to get a phone signal. Much of the time he wasn’t even wearing a helmet.

If Heyward-Bey is at the second practice, Walter may be the one to make room.

– Right tackle Cornell Green got in a minor skirmish during the three-quarter speed session with rookie end Matt Shaughnessy, then threatened him after they were separated. On the next play, Shaughnessy jumped offsides and gave Green a playful tap on the helmet.

– By at least one count, Tommy Kelly jumped offsides on three separate snaps.

– Ah, the life of the kickers. Sebastian Janikowski headed for the field house by 10:15 a.m. Shane Lechler took some deep snaps during a punting drill, but never kicked the ball _ the JUGS machine did it for him.

– Linebacker Ricky Brown got work at both strong side linebacker and middle linebacker with the first team.

The depth charts looked a lot like they did in the offseason, but Cable said to pay them no mind. Pecking orders at various positions won’t begin to be established until Monday.

– Gallery said he wasn’t sure exactly how long he would be out. His designation was on the reserve non-football illness/injury list, also called PUP/illness. He can be activiated at any time, just as Walker can.

– Oren O’Neal participated in the morning session and is likely to sit out in the second practice, which begins at 4:20 p.m.

– They’re not going to say it on the record, but some of Derrick Burgess teammates are perplexed by his now-show tactic.

He’ll be out a lot of money in fines, isn’t helping his trade value any and public issues with Al Davis over money seldom end well.

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  • Michael

    First…

    Thanks Jerry!

  • Coach D

    1st?? whooptie doo

  • SNB Defense

    I am still wondering why the Cable didn’t use that extra mandatory mini-camp afforded to 1st yr coaches. Especially with the focus on such basic fundamentals.

  • Brien the 510 General

    DHB’s a punk. We should have taken Crabtree. I might actually root for the Niners now. Fug Al davis.

  • HayesDaze#37

    Thanks, Jerry! Again– Nice job!!

    repost

    Here’s to DHB earning every dime of that contract! It’s hard to temper my enthusiasm, when a kid has this much potential…BUT, we all need to remember he’s only “just another rook” until he does anything. Same thing for Mike Mitchell, et al.

    Because of the over-hype of the so-called “reaches” Al took to get DHB and MM, they will now be some of the most (the most?) scrutinized draft picks in all of football.

    Physically, both guys have the bodies and the tools/gifts to make it…now, do they have what it takes to really contribute at a high level as rookies? If they’re not, is the team good enough with others starting in front of them?

    I hate the fact we may need to rely on the rookies. I’d much rather we see the rookies push the vets fighting for their jobs…and they’ll all be better for it. If one-of-every-two new guys on the team blossoms into good pro’s right away, it would be a HUGE success story.

    MMMmmm…football.

  • Brien the 510 General

    Youz a punk, Jerry! Bla haa!

  • Brien the 510 General

    Hayez, thanks for reposting your comment, for us to all NOT read again.

  • http://insidetheoaklandraidres HELLSBELLS

    They got to camp early just for these pactices. Alot of teams dont report until Friday.

  • Brien the 510 General

    Time for some sticky purple and a stick of butter in my ass.

  • Thec

    stryker sulak, picked up by the patrioits. Wonder if he
    will stick?

  • SNB Defense

    – Russell named four receivers as having attended his off-the-radar passing camp in Alabama _ Todd Watkins, Louis Murphy, Will Franklin and Jonathan Holland.
    =======================================================
    Louis Murphy wants to play–that’s the action of a leader

  • http://RaiderO Raider O

    Green has Anger management issues!!

  • http://www.dannysouthwick.com DO NOT HATE ON MY BOY SOUTHWICK

    SNB Defense Says:
    July 30th, 2009 at 1:35 pm
    I am still wondering why the Cable didn’t use that extra mandatory mini-camp afforded to 1st yr coaches. Especially with the focus on such basic fundamentals.

    :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

    Perhaps because Hackett/Tollner had not finished drawing up the passing offense yet? It appears they are putting a lot of new stuff in now. It probably took Al too long to edit/approve the playbook…

  • RaiderRockstar

    The whistle blows quickly _ before the quarterback throws the ball on pass plays _ and all that matters is footwork and alignment.

    ***

    Jerry Mac doesn’t think this is important?

    the #1 thing Russell needed to work on this offseason was footwork! and look how many false starts we had on the o-line last year! alignment and timing of the snap is crucial …

  • http://www.insidebayarea.com Jerry McDonald (Administrator)

    While we’re facing technical difficulties at the moment, the site is still being moderated and we are logging IP addresses. I’m looking at you, Brien, you dumb negro.

  • http://www.dannysouthwick.com DO NOT HATE ON MY BOY SOUTHWICK

    Its no wonder the drama queen Brien is sucking azz on the drama queen Crabtree…

    Crabtree = Michael Westbrook

  • SacRaider

    the #1 thing Russell needed to work on this offseason was footwork! and look how many false starts we had on the o-line last year! alignment and timing of the snap is crucial …
    —————-

    By at least one count, Tommy Kelly jumped offsides on three separate snaps.
    —————–

    Sounds like the extra work isn’t helping with Kelly..

  • http://-- Oakglenn

    Wow. We’re off to a great start today, aren’t we?

  • http://www.dannysouthwick.com DO NOT HATE ON MY BOY SOUTHWICK

    LMAO @ #15.

  • Teabag

    # HayesDaze#37 Says:
    July 30th, 2009 at 1:38 pm

    Physically, both guys have the bodies and the tools/gifts to make it…now, do they have what it takes to really contribute at a high level as rookies? If they’re not, is the team good enough with others starting in front of them?

    ———————————————–

    By saying “Do they have what it takes to really contribute at a high level”

    are you in so many words saying “Are they football players?”

    LOL

    We may never know because Al Davis doesn’t draft football players!

  • RaiderRockstar

    Matt Shaughnessy: beware of any mops in the locker room this evening!

  • HayesDaze#37

    Dig that late-practice start time, JMac.

    3-More days of these learnin’ drills are gonna kill everybody. They’re itchin’ to play…itchin’ to hit…

  • 909RaiderLifer

    Shaugnessy had better watch out, or he might get “mop handled”.

  • http://www.dannysouthwick.com DO NOT HATE ON MY BOY SOUTHWICK

    I wonder if the team is calling the rookie Shaughnessy “Cornell’s Biotch”

  • 909RaiderLifer

    RRS…

    HA…..

  • DirtyBathWater

    Brien give it up dude ur trying to be funny which you are not. My suggestion to you get another gig

  • http://RaiderO Raider O

    RR,

    LMAO, that’s exactly what I was thinking.

  • Teabag

    Did sulak sign with the Pats??

  • HayesDaze#37

    How funny…

    Teabag (again, that’s one hilarious callsign there!) –

    Is this the best you can come at me with? A clipped version of something I wrote? Hahaha. Come up with an original thought, instead of hammering others who offer some of theirs…it’s really not that hard.

    Teabag Says:

    HayesDaze#37 Says:

    Physically, both guys have the bodies and the tools/gifts to make it…now, do they have what it takes to really contribute at a high level as rookies? If they’re not, is the team good enough with others starting in front of them?

    ———————————————–

    By saying “Do they have what it takes to really contribute at a high level”

    are you in so many words saying “Are they football players?”

    ———————-

    Ummmm, Teabag/troll — Why not finish my sentence? Because it asks if the guys will be ready “as rookies.”

    You trying to make something of my statement — after you chopped it to fit your agenda — just shows you don’t want to talk football in here…just another BS farmer throwing out his seeds, and hoping to engage in a hate-fest.

    Sorry, Teabag…chase that tail with your troll buds…I’ve got stuff to do!

  • 909RaiderLifer

    Slogan on Cables Raiders T-shirt: “Wanted: 53 men ommitted to one purpose.” http://twitter.com/jerrymcd

    Pass the kool-aid.

  • AZ Raider

    .

  • http://twitter.com/raidermight RaiderMight

    I say just trade Burgess to the Lions for a 3rd or a 4th round pick. :)

  • AZ Raider

    This

  • dunkingonuts

    Jerry,

    It’s funny how you mentioned Jamarcus’ weight on your twitter post but not in the blog. WOuld have liked you to specify..!

  • 909RaiderLifer

    Oops…Committed…….errrrrr.

  • Biznztch

    Javon Walker is a faggot!

  • HayesDaze#37

    There is absolutely nothing wrong with a fired-up and aggressive Tommy Kelly. Setting an aggressive, I-wanna-work-hard example is good for everybody.

    Now, if he’s doing it all day long after a week in pads, we might have a problem.

    One guy who jumped off-sides a lot was the great Raider Howie Long. Good thing he was able to overcome it…

  • Thec

    teabag, yes sulak is with the pats not sure what the
    deal is,or if he can even stick. Makes you wonder
    where he was on the patriot board.

  • Teabag

    hahahahahhaah HayesDaze is not your typical Kool Aid drinker… he holds out every last shred of hope.. And will NOT let the horrible personnel decisions waver his resilient iron will…

    Hayes sounds like he drinks beers (or tea) with John Hererra and writes fluff pieces for Raiders.com

    I can see it now….

    “I really like what I am hearing from Nnamdi… did you hear what Nnamdi said? he said ‘I really like the direction this team is going in, I am really looking forward to the season’…”

    “OMG I AM SOOOOOOOOO STOKED BECAUSE NNAMDI SAID WE LOOK FANTASTIC!!!”

    “You could just see the passion that Trevor Scott and Matt Shaugnessey shared eating a cheese sandwich at a cafeteria table in Napa – this team is going to be special IM TELLING YOU”

    “Oh boy… ITS SOOOOO HARD FOR ME TO CURB MY ENTHUSIASM FOR WHAT I THINK IS GOING TO BE THE YEAR WE TURN THE CORNER…. BUT REALLY LOOKS LIKE ANOTHER SEASON OF WEEK IN AND WEEK OUT ASS WHIPPINS!!!”

    Yours Truly,

    Daze

  • raiderchristian

    Earlier this afternoon, agent Alvin Keels “broke” the terms of Darrius Heyward-Bey’s contract. (Since Keels isn’t DHB’s agent, this marks another odd show of Twitter’s power.)

    In the meantime, PFT – namely Florio – has confirmed that the terms Keels presented were accurate. So here they are.

    Heyward-Bey will earn $38.250 million over five years in base salary, with $23.5 million guaranteed.

    The total max value, if Heyward-Bey hits every last incentive, would be $54 million. (For this to happen, Heyward-Bey’s hamstrings will have to let him practice occasionally.)

    The guaranteed money is roughly a 20% bump over Sedrick Ellis’ deal in the same spot last year. The base salary totals go up 14%.

    That’s a lot of coin for someone without a great deal of production in college. For point of comparison, Heyward-Bey’s deal looks superior by any measure to the one Greg Jennings signed with Green Bay.

    It’s believed that Heyward-Bey’s deal will lead to more first-round signings for the players drafted around him.

    Of course, teams may not be so willing to jump on board if they don’t feel like the Raiders got a good deal.

  • Teabag

    HEY! does somebody have a bridge??? I wanna sell it to HayesDaze rofl!

  • http://sportmag.us/images/Lester_Hayes_November_1981.jpg RaiderDogg

    “Right tackle Cornell Green got in a minor skirmish during the three-quarter speed session with rookie end Matt Shaughnessy”

    Well I was half right. I predicted that old Mop Handle would be the first to get in a fight, but I said it would be with Trevor Scott not Shaughnessy.

  • Teabag

    # Thec Says:
    July 30th, 2009 at 2:04 pm

    teabag, yes sulak is with the pats not sure what the
    deal is,or if he can even stick. Makes you wonder
    where he was on the patriot board.
    —————————————————

    Well, I will say this much… in further trashing the Raiders joke of a scouting team…

    Sulak is a 3-4 rush backer..

    The Patriots knew this..

    Apparently, the Raiders didn’t until they saw him and said “Wait, we dont like the way this guy looks… what is wrong here?? OHHHH HE IS A 3-4 GUY.. CRAP! MY BAD! CUT HIM LOOSE”

    OR – they knew and they drafted him anyway..

    I’m guessing it was a combination of the 2

  • http://www.car.org KoolKell

    When will coach Cable announce the Jay Richards move to MLB? I am on the edge of my seat with this one! One of THE BEST TRANSFORMATIONS EVER!

  • Thec

    If i am not mistaken wasnt sulak taken with the pick we got from the pats?

  • http://www.car.org KoolKell

    Look you phukkin numbskeezy I don’t need to be stalked right now, it is affecting my mood greatly.

  • Thec

    Post 43, any combination of the 2 = Inept

  • http://www.car.org KoolKell

    I also think the Raiders need to think long and hard about moving Tomas Howard to strong saftey. He is real fast.

  • Teabag

    # Thec Says:
    July 30th, 2009 at 2:10 pm

    If i am not mistaken wasnt sulak taken with the pick we got from the pats?
    ———————————————-

    YES! lmfao…

    so the soap opera continues..

    And now the Pats are looking to rape AL again with Burgess…

    AL must have a secret stake in the Pats.

  • Thec

    roflmao @ post 49,
    yeah he is a minority owner of stock…..