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Davis makes first appearance

A few news and notes from Friday’s second practice:

– Raiders owner Al Davis watched his first practice of training camp, accompanied through much of it by his son Mark.

Davis talked briefly with Robert Gallery, rehabbing from an offseason appendectomy, and spoke with George and Josh Atkinson, the twin sons of former Raiders defensive back George Atkinson and star sprinters and football players at Livermore’s Granada High School.

– Drills were supposed to be at three-quarters speed, but the Raiders second team defense was apparently coming up short of that at one point in the eyes of defensive coordinator John Marshall.

“You guys are going to stay second group for the rest of your (bleeping) life,” Marshall said. “You’re going through the motions. Grow the hell up.”

– More emphasis on teaching _ quarterbacks coach Paul Hackett has quarterbacks JaMarcus Russell, Jeff Garcia, Bruce Gradkowski and Charlie Frye line up in a row in front of them where he spends a few minutes quizzing each on protections and routes.

– Jonathan Compas, an undrafted free agent guard from U.C. Davis, was getting reps as a third team center.

– Erik Pears, the free agent tackle/guard signed as a free agent, jumped offside during one drill.

– The second-team offensive line during one sequence consisted of left tackle Khalif Barnes, left guard Chris Morris, center John Wade, right guard Marcus Johnson and right tackle James Marten.

– Hiram Eugene spent some time with the second-team defense, with Michael Huff working with the first team at free safety.

– Rather than music during stretching as in the Lane Kiffin regime, the Raiders get a running dialogue from strength and conditioning coach Brad Roll.

“We’re bringing in the smokers tonight. You name it, we’re smoking him,” Roll said of the post-practice meal.

“Stretch those quads _ a happy quad makes a happy hamstring,” Roll said.

– Four more “learning intensive” practices before the hitting begins on Monday . . .

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  • http://www.wolfie.com Lon Chaney Jr

    Russell will never comes close to the career Garcia has,..Russell out of nfl after another season or so…hes set for life financially so he will be ok.

  • http://RaiderO Raider O

    There is no 2012!!! 2012 is the end of the world!! lol

  • http://www.Raiders.com DarthPirate

    “You guys are going to stay second group for the rest of your (bleeping) life,” Marshall said. “You’re going through the motions. Grow the hell up.”

    Rob Ryan’s version:

    “You guys could be starting on any other team in the league, keep doing what you’re doing!”

  • Raider75

    408…

    When you guys start the fantasy league, I’m in.

  • Destrilogy

    I dont understand why you people like garcia so much. didnt you watch the last game of the season? when russell lead us to victory?

  • Raider75

    O…

    Its Dec 2012 when the calendar runs out, so we should get 3 good months of football

  • RaiderRobG

    That’s great! Reminds me of morning PT at Ft. Jackson back in 1991…”Hurrreee-up.”

  • Nnamdi21

    http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=ap-bengals-asmith&prov=ap&type=lgns

    Not that I think we’d have taken him if Cincy hadn’t but I wonder if we dodged a bullet with Manziere spokes model Andre Smith?

    A hol dout is probably the last thing you’d want from this guy after his bizzare combine and shirtless pro day.

    Yikes…

  • Nnamdi21

    Hope it helps.

    Oakland has lacked discipline since Gannon went down.

    Good for Marshall!

    Kick their azzes! Expect more. Hel-l, expect them to do their jobs!

    Fundamentals could lead to solid play.

  • Nnamdi21

    KoolKell Says:
    July 31st, 2009 at 8:36 pm
    Lol,..too funny,..either way Garcia is the qb this year,..after merrimans 8th sack on lardass hes done for the year…I will cheer as russells lying on the infield dirt in a coma.

    ===========================

    We know thats not you KK.

    Pathetic Charger fans.

    All those fat contracts doled out to keep your team together in recent years are going o haunt you in 09′.

    Clueless Jamie Dukes thinks Phillip Rivers should be paid top tier based on last years impressive performance.

    He’s one sack away from a career ending knee injury. So is Merrimaid…

    Face it.

    They may a have one more good year left, but the Chargers are on the D cline me lady…

  • http://thesnake.com Random Drug Tester

    RaiderDogg Says:
    July 30th, 2009 at 3:52 pm
    in other news I knew that Big Papi and Manny were on the juice in 2003! No juice, no rings!

    Are u kidding me? They all are juicing and if you don’t, you lose

    If you ain’t cheating…you ain’t competing.

    Not right, but the reality of pro sports.

  • http://thesnake.com Random Drug Tester

    Why was Brady Anderson suddenly able to hit 50 homers?
    Why could Mark McGwire suddenly play a whole season?
    Why could Ben Johnson tear a muscle and then be the fastest guy in the world?
    Why could Barry Bonds (and countless others) double their size and become far better than they were before?

    DRUGS…DRUGS….DRUGS…Canseco wasn’t lying.

  • http://thesnake.com Random Drug Tester

    Canseco is the only who can come out of all this with any kind of honour!

  • willie

    post 63,as a snitch,how much is truth?Some players may be caught up in total bs,canseco is a low life,he did everything for$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ watch out for karma,dude

  • http://thesnake.com Random Drug Tester

    Oakglenn Says:
    July 31st, 2009 at 1:09 pm
    # Mistabrown Says:
    July 31st, 2009 at 12:31 pm

    Well thats what you get for thinking! Whats in your head 2 empty beer cans and a marble ? How a alleged “grown man” can be this brain dead & naive is beyond me.

    Oakglenn Says:
    July 31st, 2009 at 12:25 pm

    To me, and it took me a while to get this myself, I think most of our defensive problems stemmed from our complete ineptitude on offense.
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    See that’s the problem with this guy. He does not have the depth of brain power to understand a concept like this. If a pitcher is winning a game 10-0, he can do things he wouldn’t do in a tie game. If a defense knows their offense is going to put up points, they will address things differently. A defense, in overtime, knows the opponent has the best field goal kicker in the league, they know they have to do things differently. All these things are inter-related. Your offense, defense and special teams affect your other teams on your same side. It happens in all of sports. Coaches and GM’s know this and so do Most excellent sports fans. Imbeciles do not understand it.

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    Well put Oakglen

    That also translates to the whole “winning seasons” argument “kool”kell throws out. You can hang out in the “9-7 to 10-8″ crowd all you want without taking a chance at the big prize. You get a good track record, but never play for the big one.

    THE RAIDERS (AL DAVIS) SHOOT FOR THE BIG ONE…every move, every play…Some work – some don’t Oh well, better off trying for it all, than never playing for it all.

    And the Raiders have the best record of trying to play for it all!

  • http://thesnake.com Random Drug Tester

    willie Says:
    July 31st, 2009 at 11:33 pm
    post 63,as a snitch,how much is truth?Some players may be caught up in total bs,canseco is a low life,he did everything for$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ watch out for karma,dude

    Canseco admitted AND endorsed what he was doing as the proper way of doing things professionally as long as it was well thought out and monitored medically.

    People ditched on him, and he just told the truth. You probably believe Clemens never touched “illicit” drugs..Right?

  • http://thesnake.com Random Drug Tester

    Canseco was the only athlete who did everything for $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$?

    Don’t be so naive or I will quit acknowledging your existence.

  • http://thesnake.com Random Drug Tester

    Too bad you only need an IP to qualify to contribute on this blog. If it required you to have at least practised a sport 7 days a week, and play, and deal with injuries but still continue, your tunes might be different.

    Here’s a poll for curiousity’s sake….Who here has ever been prescribed steroids, or taken them and knows what they feel like and do for you?

  • willie

    I stand with post 64,clemens,stew,barry,JOSE,mark,all the OTHERS!canseco is a snitch for MONEY,again,who gets caught up w/bs, karma for the snitch

  • http://thesnake.com Random Drug Tester

    A lot of you guys can be very critcal of people who are in a position that you haven’t and/or could never be capable enough of being in, and it isn’t easy.

    They might not deserve millions of dollars or having a microphone in their mouths telling everybody what they think, but they deserve your respect and admiration for being able to achieve things that take more than most people have or can give.

  • willie

    67,who the frig are you,moron? Could care less about youre opinion,jackass,mrs

  • http://thesnake.com Random Drug Tester

    Canseco wasn’t snitching…he was preaching! He honestly believed that it was the way to go…as a professional, trying to be the best that he could be.

    It’s no coincidence that the Oakland A’s were who they were with him and McGwire. Better living through chemicals, Timothy Leary all the way.

    Canseco was a believer, he never tried to hide it.

  • http://thesnake.com Random Drug Tester

    Ever play a sport at a high level Willie?

  • willie

    rst=BULLSH–ER,MRS

  • dknight007

    Canseco aint no snitch….he was just getting back at baseball for dissing him and making him to be the scapegoat of what was really going on around the MLB.

    If people say “if you aint cheatin then you aint trying”…..then the other sayin should be “if you don’t tell the truth, your soul will never be free.”

    Athletes that cheat and lie should go to hell….

  • http://thesnake.com Random Drug Tester

    willie Says:
    August 1st, 2009 at 12:05 am
    rst=BULLSH–ER,MRS

    Good come-back Potsie!

  • dknight007

    # Random Drug Tester Says:
    July 31st, 2009 at 11:59 pm

    A lot of you guys can be very critcal of people who are in a position that you haven’t and/or could never be capable enough of being in, and it isn’t easy.

    They might not deserve millions of dollars or having a microphone in their mouths telling everybody what they think, but they deserve your respect and admiration for being able to achieve things that take more than most people have or can give.

    ^^^^^^Uh….no!

  • http://thesnake.com Random Drug Tester

    dknight007…I don’t endorse cheating, but athletes (professionals) police themselves and know whats going on in their world.

    How many of the recent “record-breakers” haven’t been revealed as steroid or something-takers?

  • dknight007

    # Random Drug Tester Says:
    July 31st, 2009 at 11:53 pm

    Too bad you only need an IP to qualify to contribute on this blog. If it required you to have at least practised a sport 7 days a week, and play, and deal with injuries but still continue, your tunes might be different.

    Here’s a poll for curiousity’s sake….Who here has ever been prescribed steroids, or taken them and knows what they feel like and do for you?

    ^^^^^^
    I had plenty of chances to do the illegal PED’s and juice in high school and I said fuk NO!

    Instead I used legal supplements like Creatine….simple as that…

  • http://thesnake.com Random Drug Tester

    dknight007 Says:
    August 1st, 2009 at 12:08 am

    ^^^^^^Uh….no!

    I repeat…Good come-back Potsie!

    I repeat…Ever play a sport at a high level dknight007?

  • http://thesnake.com Random Drug Tester

    dknight007 Says:
    August 1st, 2009 at 12:11 am

    I had plenty of chances to do the illegal PED’s and juice in high school and I said fuk NO!

    Instead I used legal supplements like Creatine….simple as that…

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    and we now know you as the famous athlete who did what?

  • Sweep the leg

    Alright let’s settle this like men. Put up or shut up.

    Enter your max bench press with no exagerations.

    Dark Knight:______

    RDT:______

    GO!!!

  • http://thesnake.com Random Drug Tester

    I was a pitcher, basketball player, and Quarterback…bench press wasn’t a necessary part of my skill set, but being 6’2″ 210lbs, my bench press was 230lbs.

  • http://thesnake.com Random Drug Tester

    however, my vertical leap was 35 inches and I could throw the ball 60 yds accurately

  • http://thesnake.com Random Drug Tester

    Our coach demanded we be able to bench our weight…so I did more because I partied and smoked…same in basketball, I won the pro-sprints because I partied and smoked, didn’t want the coach to be able to come down on me. likewise, if I got hurt before the championship and he said this pill, injection, whatever would help and allow me to play…….who would say NO?

  • http://thesnake.com Random Drug Tester

    None of you have answered MY questions

  • http://Raiders.com Oakglenn

    # Random Drug Tester Says:
    July 31st, 2009 at 11:40 pm

    Well put Oakglen

    And the Raiders have the best record of trying to play for it all!
    ======================================================

    Notice this you guys. This guy gets it. If you wanna win big, you gotta bet big!!!!!!!

  • http://thesnake.com Random Drug Tester

    If you wanna win big, you gotta bet big!!!!!!!

    Downside is you can lose big…maybe for 6 years, oh well, suck it up and get back in it.

    Problem for MR is that his boybriends make fun of his Raider jammies and he can’t perform and blames Al.

    Sucks to be MR

  • http://Raiders.com Oakglenn

    Not that I believe in steroid use. I don’t.

  • http://Raiders.com Oakglenn

    RDT, you break me up!!

  • http://thesnake.com Random Drug Tester

    I kill me too Oak…lol

    Nobody answered my questions yet!!

    1) Who here has ever been prescribed steroids, or taken them and knows what they feel like and do for you?
    2)Ever play a sport at a high level Willie?
    2a)Ever play a sport at a high level dknight007?
    3)How many of the recent “record-breakers” haven’t been revealed as steroid or something-takers?

  • http://thesnake.com Random Drug Tester

    I don’t endorse “steroids” because they have negative long-term repercussions on those who use them.

    I do like seeing athletes playing at their consistent best which is what steroids allow them to do.

    I wish you could ensure that nobody was using any performance-enhancing supplement so that a level playing field existed….but I am afraid there will no longer ever be a an even playing field.

  • http://thesnake.com Random Drug Tester

    even Belichik cheats…go figure

  • http://thesnake.com Random Drug Tester

    and his punishment was not to have to pay a 1st-rounder….ouch!

  • http://thesnake.com Random Drug Tester

    Sweep the leg Says:
    August 1st, 2009 at 12:22 am
    Alright let’s settle this like men. Put up or shut up.

    Enter your max bench press with no exagerations.

    Dark Knight:______

    RDT:______

    GO!!!

    —————————————————

    Dark Knight: never had to do a bench press…i just took Creatine instead (probably has ephedrine in it – but don’t hate me)

  • http://thesnake.com Random Drug Tester

    Glad I was able to ditch the skank that was hard to shake tonight in order to spend quality time with you guys tonight.

    Yeah I’m talking to you Random Drug Tester, Random, RDT, jackass, mrs

  • http://thesnake.com Random Drug Tester

    Hopefully the AM crew (minus Euro-wimp) LMN can give answers to my questions or meaningful feedback to the steroids issue.

    * Euro-wimp = soccer fan * not known as football in these parts

  • http://www.ibabuzz.com El Dirty

    free at last, free at last, thank god ol mighty I am free at last!

  • cantstandtheHATERS

    ahh, love it (the previous post). i see a lot of zoneblitzes from the DE/LB units…even TK and Warren have the athleticism to drop underneath the short routes up the middle on occasion.

    i think we’ll be “bitin” Spagnuolo’s defense here in OAK this year lol. like i said ilove it, so bring it on and make Jim Johnson (rip) proud, baby!!!

  • Die, Al. Die.

    “You guys are going to stay second group for the rest of your (bleeping) life,” Marshall said. “You’re going through the motions. Grow the hell up.”

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    I like him.