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Great Scott, a multiple defense?

By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Friday, July 31st, 2009 at 2:49 pm in Oakland Raiders.

Since Trevor Scott was open to talking about his defensive role Friday, it’s worth examining what might be in store for the second-year defensive end out of Buffalo.

We say might because we’ve seen the Raiders do these sorts of things before in practice, then often go back to what Al Davis believes they do best _ create pressure with a natural rush (usually with a four-man line) and depend on a tight man-to-man defense with one deep safety as the last line of defense.

The Raiders blitz during training camp practices. Always have. They blitz during OTAs and minicamps, some of which are open to the media. I’m assuming they do the same in their closed sessions.

Then the game starts, and, well, everyone wants to know why the hell Rob Ryan never blitzes. Ryan did blitz on occasion, but nearly as much as you’d think for a guy who believes so fiercely in pressure.

Conventional wisdom is the Raiders don’t blitz is because it’s an organizational philosophy, with the organization being someone who goes by the name of Mr. Davis. The blitzing in practice, you can surmise, is often done to prepare the offense for what they’re going to see.

With that as a backdrop, Scott was talking about a Friday session in the John Marshall-coached defense which he lined up in various positions and wasn’t in a three-point stance. He even dropped into coverage.

Asked if we might see Scott performing some of those duties this year, Cable said, “You know, we might. I really don’t want to talk about scheme.’’

(We’ll ask Marshall the same thing when he is made available to the media _ and chances are he’s not going to talk about scheme, either).

Scott gave his expanded duties a thumbs up, and also said he had done it in the offseason (not surprisingly, during the days the media wasn’t present at OTAs).

“I love it. It’s a lot of fun,’’ Scott said. “Mixing things up, give me an opportunity to do some different things and do well at ‘em. I like it a lot.”

Scott said he hadn’t played in an upright position since high school. A converted tight end, he promises he still has the hands to catch the ball and go the other way if placed in coverage.

He believes some of these new ideas will be implemented in games, not just in practice.

“Pretty much all the stuff that we run against our offense, we’re going to use on anybody, know what I mean?’’ Scott said. “We’ll give them a look . . . we’re going to run what we’re practicing.’’

More notes and quotes and observations:

– Moving Scott around at 256 pounds is the best way to get the most out of him, because even though he’s packed on some muscle, he’s not built to withstand the pounding of 330-pound tackles against the run.

– Cornerback Chris Johnson is unconcerned that despite a contract which paid him a $4 million signing bonus, and having the endorsement of Davis, he is alternating with Stanford Routt in the base defense.

“We are rotating right now, but at the end of the day I’m going to feel like I’m the starter, regardless of whatever happens,’’ Johnson said.

Johnson played extremely well over the last eight games after the DeAngelo Hall was written off like a Bernie Madoff investment.

“You know Tom Cable thought I could hold this position, and that’s why Mr. Davis felt this contract was a good deal for me,’’ Johnson said.

– Javon Walker remained mysterious about his offseason knee surgery which he said has him feeling better about his health than he has in years.

“I will say it’s new. It’s new,’’ Walker said of the procedure. He declined to be specific or even say where it was performed.

“I don’t know where it was done,’’ Walker said. “I’m clueless.’’

He believes the Raiders will get the receiver they expected when they paid him $12 million last year, a contract that was renegotiated downward and will pay him $4.6 million guaranteed over the next two years.

“When I get back out there, I’m just excited about working with some young guys who are going to push me more than I’m going to push them,’’ Walker said. “I’m also excited about letting Oakland see what Javon has to offer because I’m young, I’m in my prime right now.

“My ability hasn’t changed, my enthusiasm hasn’t changed. I’m just excited to be back to the Javon that was that first year in Denver and the Javon that was in Green Bay and all of a sudden have it translate here.’’

Walker said Thursday he expected to be on the sidelines for another two weeks. He is performing running, cutting and jumping drills with the athletic training staff at what looks like close to full speed with no sign of a limp or discomfort.

– Like a good politician, Ricky Brown feels strongly both ways about whether he’s a strong side or middle linebacker. He’s played both so far, occasionally with the first team.

“I’ve proved that I can be the opening day starter at the SAM linebacker. I think maybe my more natural position would be MIKE, just kind of the way I’m built, having good change of direction and all, but either one’s fine,’’ Brown said.

– Count linebacker and special teams standout Isaiah Ekejiuba as one of the players on board with Cable’s four-days-of-learning approach.

“It seemed like it was weird at first when he talked about the concept, but you go through it and it’s a great concept,’’ Cable said. “We’re doing a lot of learning, get all the mistakes out the way.

“They were talking about a lot of injuries that happen during camp happen the first five days of camp. So right now we’re doing a lot of mental work and leaving the physical work until Monday. And I think that’s going to help, help your body adjust real quick and then when it’s time to go, it’s time to go.”

– Wide receiver Todd Watkins on the Raiders options in route-running as opposed to last season:

“Last year we were like opening a children’s book when we ran our plays,’’ Watkins said. “Now we can take advantage of whatever we see, just simple tags on stuff we already have installed.’’

Watkins said he enjoyed his trip to Mobile, Ala., at the invitation of quarterback JaMarcus Russell.

“We worked out a couple days, and we worked on the things that we wanted to work on, without the pressure of having the coaches out there to nitpick, because we’re the ones ultimately who are going to be out there on the field,’’ Watkins said. “So as long as we’re on the same page, and see the same way, that’s what really matters.’’

Watkins said workouts, when not interrupted by thunderstorms, lasted 90 minutes to two hours. They took place at Williamson High School, where Russell was a local star. They worked with high school players in a clinic-like setting.

“A lot of people knew it was going on, because that’s his community. They know when he comes back,’’ Watkins said.

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156 Responses to “Great Scott, a multiple defense?”

  1. Dakota Says:

    GOOOO LAKERS!!!!

  2. Dakota Says:

    Cable’s pseudo-passive aggressive start to training camp – begin with a day full of meetings, follow with four straight days of non-contact two-a-day practices in helmets and shorts while installing new schemes on both sides of the ball – seems to be a hit among the Raiders veterans.

    “You know, in 17 years, I’ve never seen anything like this, but I can’t believe how much we’re getting out of it,” Cable said Lorenzo Neal told him after Friday’s morning practice. “Just in our talks, in our room, or in meetings, or whatever, it’s a chance to really sort it out and work through it before, all of a sudden, you put the combative part into it, which will start on Monday.”

    Meaning full pads and hitting.
    _____________________________

    Call my cynical if you like, but if the current Raiders are the only team doing something…it is probably not the smartest thing to do…

  3. 909RaiderLifer Says:

    YaVonne going 3rd. person. Who’da thunk?

  4. 909RaiderLifer Says:

    Just have to wait and see, how this four days of “Pop Warner” hand holding instruction, plays out.

  5. anth0nyi3m Says:

    Call my cynical if you like, but if the current Raiders are the only team doing something…it is probably not the smartest thing to do…
    ————————————

    shut up you are annoying.

  6. Dakota Says:

    lol

  7. Raider75 Says:

    You guys really are cynical. If the players are comfortable with it and EXCITED about what they are learning, then let the process play out.

    New coaches were brought in to teach fundamentals because this was an undisciplined team.

    Sounds like a good thing to me.

  8. AZ Raider Says:

    Tell that to:

    Andy Reid
    John Madden
    Bill Belichiken
    Mike Tomlin
    Rex Ryan
    Tony Sparano
    etc…………….

    There are alot of successfull “players coaches”. I think what Cable is doing, is exactly what your reading. Getting back to basics…. When your 5-11 who can argue with that?

  9. Raider75 Says:

    From Raider Beat…

    Running back Darren McFadden saw a lot of time at wide receiver. Cable said he realized in breaking down video of Oakland’s games last sason that playing McFadden out wide opened up the whole field. It also opened up some carries for the other backs. Cable said he needs to find a way to get the ball to all three running backs because they “are all playmakers in their own way.”

  10. Dakota Says:

    Raider75 Says:
    July 31st, 2009 at 3:17 pm
    You guys really are cynical. If the players are comfortable with it and EXCITED about what they are learning, then let the process play out.

    New coaches were brought in to teach fundamentals because this was an undisciplined team.

    Sounds like a good thing to me.
    _______________________________

    Every year the players come out and say they love things the current coach is doing…in 2007 it was how much they loved the music and the day-night practices…then when Cable took over they loved that he ended practices on time…and when Art Shell was here the second time the players loved that he would pass out in meeting and they could leave early…and the players loved Ryan’s pizza parties and nap times and no accountability approach….

    Players love it!!! So fukin what?

  11. jhill Says:

    Getting back to basics…. When your 5-11 who can argue with that?

    —————————————————–

    Exactly!

  12. Raider O Says:

    Yavone is a liar! He said he was fine last season, and look what happened!

    If hes not 110% healthy, Put him on IR, and then cut him next year.

  13. Once You Go Silver-n-Black... Says:

    Call my cynical if you like, but if the current Raiders are the only team doing something…it is probably not the smartest thing to do…
    ————————————

    shut up you are annoying.
    ——

    My thoughts exactly. What a frigging girl.

  14. Raider O Says:

    There are a few players that m read to give up on:
    Yavone
    Sands
    Huff

  15. Dakota Says:

    Players are always trying to find ways out of training camp and you guys wonder why the players are on board with playing patty-cake for the first few practices?

    lol morons

  16. Raider O Says:

    DMC should get atleast 40-50% of all carries.
    Bush should get 30- 40%.
    Fargas will get the rest.

  17. Dakota Says:

    I thought we had a shot at winning 8 or 9 games if everything goes right….not anymore…6 wins max under Cable.

  18. Dakota Says:

    Waaaaaaaaaa! Man, I’m gay.

  19. Raider O Says:

    Dakota,

    They are learning the sys and fundamentals.

  20. Dakota Says:

    We now practice like synchronized aquatic dancers and Cable still plans on utilizing his secret weapon, Justin Fargas, lol = 6-10!!!!

  21. onca upon a time in the west Says:

    Count linebacker and special teams standout Isaiah Ekejiuba as one of the players on board with Cable’s four-days-of-learning approach.

    “It seemed like it was weird at first when he talked about the concept, but you go through it and it’s a great concept,’’ Cable said. “We’re doing a lot of learning, get all the mistakes out the way.

    “They were talking about a lot of injuries that happen during camp happen the first five days of camp. So right now we’re doing a lot of mental work and leaving the physical work until Monday. And I think that’s going to help, help your body adjust real quick and then when it’s time to go, it’s time to go.”

    Translation, I sure am glad I am not getting the SH*&^%%T kicked out of me.
    Its football MAN UP. I bet the Steelers are not practicing this way. You are being paid MEGA-BUCKS practice hard and play hard. More on thet later…

  22. SNB Defense Says:

    Dakoota is right about having some skepticism. Positive comments in camp is usually the norm.

    However, this is the 1st year in recent memory where the Raiders have seemingly competent and qualified coaches. The linchpin in all this is whether Al Davis gives the freedom to the coaching staff to design their own game plans and allow playcalling without worry about having to explain things on Monday should something go wrong.

    I will say this again: We will have all the answers after that MNF game against San Diego. The score is not even as important as to how they play, how they look and the way the playcalling is done.

    Yes, we will have all the answers for 2009 after week 1

  23. Raider O Says:

    9-7!!

  24. Dakota Says:

    Really Raider O? Why don’t the other teams have to take the first five days of training camp to learn fundamentals and the system? I’ll bet the 1-15 Phins didn’t take the first five days of camp last season to learn the fundamentals and the system by playing patty-cake did they?

    I guess Cable runs the remedial football camp.

  25. Raider O Says:

    I want the answers now!! I can’t wait for week 1. lol

  26. AZ Raider Says:

    I dont’ know man, I like it… If it’s different it has to be good right? Hope so. sounds like there is some confidence in Walkers talk huh? Last year he wasn’t claiming all that.

    Just remember:

    AZ Raider said it all along. “Walker still has some left in the tank IMO. I think he still has a shot at #1 spot”.

  27. AZ Raider Says:

    9-7!

    whats up “O”?!

  28. jhill Says:

    So instead of focusing on the mental aspect of getting in the right positions to stop the run, we should just get right into it with the hitting? I guess so, sense it is the same thing we’ve been running for the last 2 6 years. What sense does it make to make sure they no the assignments before the contact starts? They should already know there assignments, right, so let’s get at it.

    What is the big problem, other than it’s the Raiders?

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  30. Raider O Says:

    Dakota,

    All I know is what we did the last 6 yrs didn’t work, and I always thought we lacked Fundamentals, so this is exactly what we need IMO. It’s only for a few days!!

  31. Raider O Says:

    AZ,

    As you can see, I’ve been drinking your KoolAide. lol
    9-7!

  32. Tony Pigagoosa Says:

    909? is in cali?

  33. Dakota Says:

    jhill Says:
    July 31st, 2009 at 3:38 pm
    So instead of focusing on the mental aspect of getting in the right positions to stop the run, we should just get right into it with the hitting? I guess so, sense it is the same thing we’ve been running for the last 2 6 years. What sense does it make to make sure they no the assignments before the contact starts? They should already know there assignments, right, so let’s get at it.

    What is the big problem, other than it’s the Raiders?
    ________________________________________________
    What did Cable focus on during OTAs? How to put pads on?

    LMFAO

  34. jhill Says:

    All I care about is what we are doing. We looked SOOOO bad at basic fundamental things on defense that I have NO problem with these sessions. We were beat on so many plays within the first step of the play, or exactly the stuff we are working on now. Lining up in the wrong place, calling the wrong audible, taking the wrong first step. It’s ridiculous that we have to do this stuff, but it certainly can’t hurt.

  35. Tony Pigagoosa Says:

    Raider O Says:
    July 31st, 2009 at 3:37 pm
    I want the answers now!! I can’t wait for week 1. lol

    just like a chick, ctying about what you want.

    lol, omg

  36. Coach Elkins Says:

    The players are trying to convince themselves Cable is the man for the job by standing by their coach in relation the early passive start ….

    They will find out soon enough what type of Head Coach they have when he decides to go with Garcia somewhere around the bye week…

    When this coaching move fails….the responsibility will rest where it should…on the man who signed Garcia…and the first to be shown the door…TOM CABLE

    NEXT!

  37. RaiderGator Says:

    Wide receiver Todd Watkins on the Raiders options in route-running as opposed to last season:

    “Last year we were like opening a children’s book when we ran our plays,’’ Watkins said. “Now we can take advantage of whatever we see, just simple tags on stuff we already have installed.’’

    ——————————————————-
    Well this is all looking very promising. And next year they’ll be saying….”Man, last year was like being back in high school. No, actually high school camp was tougher. Never seen anything like that in my career. Glad that we’re hitting things hard this year.”

    just watch….

  38. Raider O Says:

    Tony,

    It was a joke! OMG pls don’t freak-out!

    Another Talking Monkey!! You should feel at home here.

  39. AZ Raider Says:

    Coach Elkins Says:
    July 31st, 2009 at 3:45 pm
    The players are trying to convince themselves Cable is the man for the job by standing by their coach in relation the early passive start ….

    They will find out soon enough what type of Head Coach they have when he decides to go with Garcia somewhere around the bye week…

    When this coaching move fails….the responsibility will rest where it should…on the man who signed Garcia…and the first to be shown the door…TOM CABLE

    NEXT!
    ……………………………………………….

    Hey coach, where can i get one of those crystal balls?

  40. RaiderGator Says:

    Been a fan for a looooonnnng time. To players, the present is always wonderful and the past always sucked monkey gonads.

  41. Raider O Says:

    AZ,

    At Liquor & Guns in Podunk. They sell everything!

    lol

  42. Norco Bob Says:

    For some reason I cant sit down,..hurts back there!!!

  43. AZ Raider Says:

    If you don’t recognize the name “O”, I wouldn’t sweat ‘em :)

  44. KoolKell Says:

    When I git to napa Im gonna kill ray ratto.

  45. Dakota Says:

    Tom Cable: “Next week we are going to concentrate on how to keep groomed. A clean team is a winning team! We plan two a days that will kill the players; manicures in the first session and pedicures plus a course in foot fungi control in the second session! I know we are asking a lot from the players this year, but the pressure is on all of us to get some wins!”

  46. KoolKell Says:

    Ok listen up, y`all know me, I know what the hells Im talkin bout…Jeff Garcia is the only chance we got to succeed,…thats the real deal…its another losing season if Russell is annointed the job due to salary.

  47. Raider O Says:

    AZ,

    I enjoy the Show. lol
    Where else can you see so many Talking Monkeys?

  48. lefty12 Says:

    Jhill-they have to biotch about something.just like the players in the draft,they didn’t want Cable as HG so he can’t be any good.give him time to prove whether or not he is-hell no,we didn’t want him so he must suck.

  49. Dakota Says:

    Have a nice weekend suckers.

  50. King Of The Trolls Says:

    Well, well, well, it appears I am back in business.

  51. KoolKell Says:

    Stick it up your asss Dakota.

  52. lefty12 Says:

    instead of using the extra OTA we were allowed,we started camp a few days earlier and are doing what we would have done during the extra OTA with the whole team here instead of those who would have voluntarily showed.yea,sure is a dumb thing to do.

  53. AZ Raider Says:

    Hey Lefty, Cable already used his “extra” camp day for the passing game clinic.

    Is all good 12!

  54. TheRealMaddenRaider Says:

    Rather or not you agree with what Cable is doing I think we can all agree that 2009 is a make or break season for JR. Will he continue to be a fat, useless, inaccurate quarterback or will he become the black Moses? I think we all know the answer but most uf us are unwilling to accept what our logical minds are telling us.

  55. Bryan Says:

    Remember Raider fans, we have a QB with an IQ of 15. This fundamentals approach to begin camp just might be a good idea for gentle JaMarcus.

  56. KoolKell Says:

    MR,..Jeff Garcia was brought here to start, you will see,..come the opener Jeff is starting,..Russell sucks.

  57. Lefty12 Says:

    sorry i didnt know that AZ, I guess I should shut up now before I make a fool of myself like Mistabrowneye

  58. KoolKell Says:

    Jeff Garcia will make this team respectable until Tim Tebow gets here.

  59. Tony Pigagoosa Says:

    RaiderGator Says:
    July 31st, 2009 at 3:49 pm
    Been a fan for a looooonnnng time. To players, the present is always wonderful and the past always sucked monkey gonads.

    How bout you go suck monkey nutts?

    GaYtor, u n florida? Go Philip Buchanon!!

  60. AZ Raider Says:

    We all know Garcia is going to start eventually. Might as well make it right now instead of week 6 of the regular season right?

  61. Tony Pigagoosa Says:

    King Of The Trolls Says:
    July 31st, 2009 at 4:01 pm
    Well, well, well, it appears I am back in business.

    fuk off sh!t for brains

    well, well, well i’m a troll troll troll

    what was your name during the prohibition, I mean reg period?

  62. Oakglenn Says:

    Garcia starting? You people are all idiots! I don’t know why Priest and I put up with all of you tools. I am about to give up on the Nation since you are all tools.

  63. Dakota Says:

    I like sheep.

  64. AZ Raider Says:

    KK,

    come on with the Jeff Garcia stuff bro, your gonna jinx us ALL! Do you really want to see Garcia and his stupid jump passes, and running around the field like an R/C car you let get out of radio range?

    Shiiiiieeee, I don’t.

    What’s your hang up with Russell anyway. He hasn’t even got a decent shot to prove himself yet. Do you want to keep going with the old washed up vets? Where you impressed with the way Garcia played agaist our Defense (one of the worst in the league last year)? Dunno, man I don’t get where your head is at…

  65. SNB Defense Says:

    Yawn…guys, this is Russell’s year to prove out who he is going to become.

    This is truly the first yr where he has decent talent (pending the starting RT) since he’s been here.

    He also has receivers that want to play and a coach that wants to be here.

    Let’s wait until the year is out before we pass verdict on Russell. You guys always think the next Kurt Warner or Rich GAnnon is just around the corner.

    BTW, If Jeff Garcia has no chance of leading ANY team to the S.B….what would be the point in playing the 39 yr old QB? To prepare for next year? Really

    Its all about Russell and judging from some reports he is working harder and better with his teammates.

  66. KoolKell Says:

    I like Cable’s approach in the opening practices. It speaks to the details of proper execution.

  67. AZ Raider Says:

    AZ Raider Says:
    July 31st, 2009 at 4:11 pm
    We all know Garcia is going to start eventually. Might as well make it right now instead of week 6 of the regular season right?
    ……………………………………………….

    Just because you can’t debate Raiders with me doesn’t mean you should troll my handle.

    Fuk off bro. If you want to engage in conversation with me, say something and prepare yourself…

    Douche bag trolls…

  68. Tony Pigagoosa Says:

    Dakota Says:
    July 31st, 2009 at 4:15 pm
    I like sheep

    Why Dakotex? ya like them as in u like to do them?

  69. ButtHolePrick Says:

    Yeah Oakglenn, I don’t know why either?

    maybe it is because nobody likes you outside of the blog

  70. AZ Raider Says:

    Oakglenn,

    Ignore the trolls for now… This site will be repaired soo enough.

    RAIDER ON!

  71. no more infield... Says:

    KK, Garcia starting over JR? Seriously? dude r u huffing or something? Put the spray paint down and seek help immediately.

  72. Coach Elkins Says:

    AZ Raider Says:
    July 31st, 2009 at 4:11 pm
    We all know Garcia is going to start eventually. Might as well make it right now instead of week 6 of the regular season right?
    _________________________________________________
    AZ Raider…this is why we shouldn’t have brought Garcia in at all….

    He should be the starter in week one….and by not having him be the starter right away shows indecision……he is a better QB at this point…but thats precisely why you don’t bring him in…

    It sets Russell back….already has….mentally, physcially….and now in relation to experience…

    It baffles me the Raiders couldn’t have forseen this…

    & with a 60 million dollar investment…

    UNBELIEVEABLE

  73. no more infield... Says:

    garcia did so much good last season in Tampon Bay. just stellar. So good in fact that they let him walk… Pu-lease people…

  74. KoolKell Says:

    Jerry

    Are you going to let the blog return to the gutter?

    Folks, until registration returns, I will not be posting.

    AZ, the KoolKell comments going on here all day have not been mine. No Registration let’s Oakglenn/Trolls (Anti-Social Personalities) appropriate anyone Moniker.

    http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/antisocial-personality-disorder/DS00829

  75. lefty12 Says:

    AZ-that wasn’t you saying we used the xtra on the passing camp was it?please tell me it wasn’t you but the child who has no ba!!s and has to post under others names,like #57,because that clinic or camp or whatever didn’t count,but i believe you knew that.

  76. AZ Raider Says:

    Coach Elkins Says:
    July 31st, 2009 at 4:27 pm
    AZ Raider Says:
    July 31st, 2009 at 4:11 pm
    We all know Garcia is going to start eventually. Might as well make it right now instead of week 6 of the regular season right?
    _________________________________________________
    AZ Raider…this is why we shouldn’t have brought Garcia in at all….

    He should be the starter in week one….and by not having him be the starter right away shows indecision……he is a better QB at this point…but thats precisely why you don’t bring him in…

    It sets Russell back….already has….mentally, physcially….and now in relation to experience…

    It baffles me the Raiders couldn’t have forseen this…

    & with a 60 million dollar investment…

    UNBELIEVEABLE
    ……………………………………………….

    Sorry coach, but that post was trolled. I am not a Garcia supporter other than being a back up. See this post, it was the real AZ :)

    ……………………………………………….

    #64

    AZ Raider Says:
    July 31st, 2009 at 4:16 pm
    KK,

    come on with the Jeff Garcia stuff bro, your gonna jinx us ALL! Do you really want to see Garcia and his stupid jump passes, and running around the field like an R/C car you let get out of radio range?

    Shiiiiieeee, I don’t.

    What’s your hang up with Russell anyway. He hasn’t even got a decent shot to prove himself yet. Do you want to keep going with the old washed up vets? Where you impressed with the way Garcia played agaist our Defense (one of the worst in the league last year)? Dunno, man I don’t get where your head is at…

  77. KoolKell Says:

    Jerry go register your butt on craigslist, make a little extra money on the side, c`mon you know you would love it. Go Raiders!

  78. Beeecham Says:

    Don’t worry, Krappy. I knew the minute your little imposter friend insulted Dakota you were not behind it. AZ is a little slow in general to the happenings of the blog, so cut him a break.

    Anyway, there really isn’t much constructive blogging going on from any of my pals, just a lot of my followers getting free for a day. That’s fine, let them have their time in the sun. I’ll shoo them back into the closet soon enough.

    We’ll get back to business soon, Krappy ol pal!

  79. AZ Raider Says:

    Lefty, that was me, but I thought it did count. If you found out otherwise, sorry for the bunk information….

  80. KoolKell Says:

    Jeff Garcia is so much better then Russell it isnt even close. Mr Davis is also aware of this, or he would not have signed him.

  81. ButtHolePrick Says:

    KoolKell Says:
    July 31st, 2009 at 4:28 pm
    Jerry

    Are you going to let the blog return to the gutter?

    Folks, until registration returns, I will not be posting.

    AZ, the KoolKell comments going on here all day have not been mine. No Registration let’s Oakglenn/Trolls (Anti-Social Personalities) appropriate anyone Moniker.

    u old scumb bag pisss bucket foogey

    get off the geritol and creamy discharge from yer mom pantys

  82. 24 Says:

    Some of this stuff is good to read but thats all it is until I see this stuff work on the field.

    Trevor Scott moving around? What does that even mean? 3-4? I seriously doubt it. We’ll see.

    More blitzes? Suuurrreeeee.

    Its interesting that Routt is getting a chance to compete. Theres really nothing wrong with it. Let the guy have a chance and make sure that Johnson still fights for his position so we have the best guy on Sunday but I just can’t see Routt beating out Johnson.

    Javon Walker is talking a good game but thats like talking about blitzing more or running a 3-4 or whatever. I’ll believe it when I see it.

    If Ricky Brown proves to be a really good Middle linebacker…does that mean Morrison finally moves to Strongside? I think I’m ok with that.

    Why is anybody asking Todd Watkins a question? He won’t even make the team.

  83. AZ Raider Says:

    Kool Beans, Kool Kell… Is all goooooooood.

  84. lefty12 Says:

    thet could have had another OTA but instead decided to start camp a few days early,which i guess is ok by the rules.don’t know about that for sure though,but i know they could have had 1 more OTA.

  85. ButtHolePrick Says:

    Beeecham Says:
    July 31st, 2009 at 4:34 pm
    Don’t worry, Krappy. I knew the minute your little imposter friend insulted Dakota you were not behind it. AZ is a little slow in general to the happenings of the blog, so cut him a break.

    Anyway, there really isn’t much constructive blogging going on from any of my pals, just a lot of my followers getting free for a day. That’s fine, let them have their time in the sun. I’ll shoo them back into the closet soon enough.

    We’ll get back to business soon, Krappy ol pal!

    bring it beechnut

    arnt u the puzzy that would not fight that girl Dirtycoon?

    Whats the matter, ya couldn’t find him with all the other coons on the south side of sacramento?

  86. KoolKell Says:

    Michael Vick would be better then Russell,..hell so would Michael Jackson. Who said that?…lol

  87. Die, Al. Die. Says:

    Remedial camp for remedial players. Makes sense.

  88. 24 Says:

    Jerrymcd Strength coach Brad Roll during stretching: We’re bringing in the smokers tonight. You name it, we’re smoking it . . .(meat, I presume) .

  89. AZ Raider Says:

    24

    I’ve been lobbying for the 3-4 for the last couple years. You can have 1 EXTREMELEY good DT and a shitload of Ok LB’s and 1 GREAT DE and WHAMMY! ….decent defense in 1 draft :)

  90. KoolKell Says:

    I will be back in about 5 hours,..time fore me to go take a huge chit,..usually takes about 5 hours. brb

  91. Al Davis Has Cojones Says:

    Best news on here:

    No Jay Richardson, No Michelle Huff.

  92. 24 Says:

    AZ Raider – Honestly. It doesn’t matter what we run as long as its successful.

  93. AZ Raider Says:

    24 Says:
    July 31st, 2009 at 4:40 pm
    Jerrymcd Strength coach Brad Roll during stretching: We’re bringing in the smokers tonight. You name it, we’re smoking it . . .(meat, I presume) .
    ……………………………………………….

    LEAGALIZE IT!!!!!!!!!!

  94. AZ Raider Says:

    24 – True dat…

  95. Coach Elkins Says:

    Tom Cable is 4-8 and he had the luxury of 5 Special Teams scores in his 12 games…..

    We’re in trouble folks…

  96. KoolKell Says:

    Tom Cable is a joke…Mr Davis could have brought back Gruden, but he didnt…sucks…by the way, Im on the toilet,..can ya smell it?…Who said that?…lol

  97. Al Davis Has Cojones Says:

    “Quarterbacks coach Paul Hackett pulled the quarterbacks to a corner for audible drills. With no one else around, the quarterbacks had to practice making a snap count, backing away from the imaginary center to call an audible — hand motions and all — then take a “snap” and drop back.

    Hackett mixed it up by calling out defensive looks, requiring the quarterbacks to declare what audible they would go to in that situation.”

    This team hasnt called an audible in 6 years….at least the right one.

  98. Beeecham Says:

    In all this training camp excitement, I’m wondering where my good pal Charged Down wandered off to? There’s no way he’s back in school yet, must be rehearsing with his totally cool cover band.

    And again fellas, I apologize for all of my followers acting up like this. They get very worked up when I let them blog. But don’t worry – soon we’ll be back in the happy world of registration together!

  99. AZ Raider Says:

    Coach…

    Tom Cable is 0-0 as Head Coach. Gotta give him a season brotha. The Kiffin clean up was hard on ME even. Can’t imagine what it must of been like in the locker room…

  100. Oakglenn Says:

    # AZ Raider Says:
    July 31st, 2009 at 4:27 pm

    Oakglenn,

    Ignore the trolls for now… This site will be repaired soo enough.

    RAIDER ON!
    ———————————————-

    That isn’t me AZ

  101. KoolKell Says:

    Ggghhrrrrr….aaaagagghhhhhhhh….oooohhhhhh….aaaahhhhhhhhhhh….damn!….constipated!….Im growing a tail!!!…lol..Who said that?…lol

  102. Al Davis Has Cojones Says:

    Coach Elkins Says:
    July 31st, 2009 at 4:45 pm
    Tom Cable is 4-8 and he had the luxury of 5 Special Teams scores in his 12 games…..

    We’re in trouble folks…

    ****

    If we dont produce the same amount of special team scores we could offset that by more Defensive scores which we had very little of. Couldnt produce any leads to get any teams to throw it on us.

  103. D RAIDER Says:

    Dakota probably has not played one down of ball. If so it probably has been decades ago in High School being a scrub. The Cable approach makes perfect sense. Footwork and mental reps are a huge part of the game. Quit hating Dakota, you are football ignorant. And your name sucks too!

  104. Oakglenn Says:

    Hey the man said it strait, Jeff Garcia is here to play, not sit. Period. Im all for it. Jamarcus Russell is a bust, no doubt about it. Word.

  105. AZ Raider Says:

    Sorry Oak, it’s kinda foggy in here right now, it’s hard to see ya know? Got my boots on though, so I’ll survive it…

  106. Oakglenn Says:

    KoolKell is one sick mother fletcher.

  107. ButtHolePrick Says:

    New post

  108. D RAIDER Says:

    KoolKell is hearing voices in the stall next to him responding to his Toe Tapping and other mens restroom restop hijinx!

  109. Coach Elkins Says:

    Footwork and mental reps are a kindergarten drill used the day before a game…not the first 3 days of training camp….

    AL Davis just walked onto the field…betcha he is pissed!

  110. Coach Elkins Says:

    From the sound of it…if Mr. Davis wanted to suit up…based on the first few practices….he’d be right up there with the starters…I mean…we’re only doing walkthroughs and mental reps…???

  111. Coach Elkins Says:

    Have a good weekend fellas…

    Do me a favor and start thinking for yourselves….

  112. Your grandma Says:

    This place is a $hithole. Go do something better with your life.

  113. 24 Says:

    I think we have a nice core of returners for special teams. I think we’ll get those 5 TD’s easily. Justin Miller is very good with a 26.6 career return average. JLH is a great punt returner with a 10.5 punt return average at 13.0 average with 3 TD’s last year alone. Add his 23.4 average on kick returns and hes a nice backup in that area. Branch is also supposed to be very good in this area as well and if he doesn’t take one of these spots, he makes for a nice backup. Miller had 2 TD’s last year in only half a season.

  114. D RAIDER Says:

    I hear Dakota calling you Coach Elkins! Fake ass coach!

  115. AZ Raider Says:

    Thanks coach, I almost forgot to do that… I was starting to buy into your genious. Good lookin out though, I’m OK now.

    Have a good one!

  116. John Elway: A Real Man Says:

    The Raiders are officially gay, with their faggot quaterback. Speaking of which, we can’t wait to pound you bitches in the ass on week 3.

  117. AZ Raider Says:

    LOL

    Pound us with what? Kyle Ortons arm or Brandon Marshall’s tears?

  118. 24 Says:

    Jerrymcd First Al Davis sighting at training camp . . .
    18 minutes ago from PockeTwit

  119. AZ Raider Says:

    Hey Elway, you can borrow Garcia from us if you need a QB though.

  120. dknight007 Says:

    White annoyed me earlier when he chastised Coach Cable for for giving the team a water break in 60 degree weather or some silly comment like that?

    NewsBreak to White: We as humans need to be hydrated no matter what the hell the temperature is and especially when participating in athletics. Doesn’t matter if your sitting on your fat behind all day “tweeting” or running through camp drills at full speed or no contact drills.

    We all need to stay HYDRATED!

    Wake Up White!

  121. DarthPirate Says:

    When Al Davis shows up to watch, they probably immediately stop running blitz packages and jump into base formation and hope the boss doesn’t notice

  122. 408RAIDER( FREE DIRTY) Says:

    sup NATION???

  123. 909RaiderLifer Says:

    408….

    Hey.

  124. RaiderKen Says:

    Sup 408

  125. 24 Says:

    Jerrymcd John Marshall to 2nd team defense: You’re going to stay 2nd team the rest of your lives. You’re going through the motions. Grow the hell up.

  126. RaiderKen Says:

    I’d really like to see the defense switch it up between the 4-3 and the 3-4.

  127. RaiderKen Says:

    What’s Jerry’s twitter address?

  128. 408RAIDER( FREE DIRTY) Says:

    yo 909.. I guess the new server iant haitin on me… :P got my ice cold beer and finally getting my fix… Life is good

  129. Florida Pete Says:

    i’m gonna weigh in on this “walk through” phase of camp…

    i’m thinking these guys all can play… or they wouldn’t be here…

    but walk throughs on plays… on assignments… slow motion… so everybody can see what’s happening or what should be happening…

    in my business, i would stop everything… i’d call out “okay, everybody, we have a instruction event”… and i would proceed to bring everyone up to speed on what should be happening in a particular situation…

    this is the same thing… it’s training… walk throughs… rehearsing… whatever… i’ll bet it’s effective, especially with the rookies…

    not only do they better understand thier assignments, but they probably understand “why” they need to do what they are supposed to do and to be where they are supposed to be…

    now, that all being said…

    i wanna see some lips being ripped off come gametime…

  130. 408RAIDER( FREE DIRTY) Says:

    Ken

    http://twitter.com/Jerrymcd

  131. KoolKell Says:

    I just took the biggest chit in the history of mankind….anyone want to eat it?…Who said that?…lol

  132. KoolKell Says:

    Jeff Garcia my friends, hes the starter for sure. Come the opener, he will start.

  133. Florida Pete Says:

    KoolKell Says:
    July 31st, 2009 at 5:36 pm
    Jeff Garcia my friends, hes the starter for sure. Come the opener, he will start.

    ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

    no

  134. dknight007 Says:

    Video of DHB catching passes….doesn’t look like he had a case of the drops to me…..

    http://www.napavalleyregister.com/articles/2009/07/31/sports/doc4a735aa039e18446551986.txt

  135. 408RAIDER( FREE DIRTY) Says:

    LMAO

    mcfadden is following the ladies on his twitter page…

    http://twitter.com/dmcfadden20

  136. KoolKell Says:

    007,..eat my waste.

  137. AZ Raider Says:

    DK,

    A friend of mine was raised in a Maryland family, so needless to say, being football fans, know alot about DHB. Their only knock was that his QB sukt and he was double teamed all the time. But they never said anything about his hands being suspect.

  138. 408RAIDER( FREE DIRTY) Says:

    007

    thanx 4 the link..those drills look soft IMO…

  139. AZ Raider Says:

    408

    Full pads, 2 a days starting Monday baby! Season is nearing!

  140. 408RAIDER( FREE DIRTY) Says:

    AZ

    thats what Im talking about!!! I am soooooo ready to get this thing started.. Here’s to every 1 staying healthy.. (408 cracks a Heineken)

  141. dknight007 Says:

    # AZ Raider Says:
    July 31st, 2009 at 5:46 pm

    DK,

    A friend of mine was raised in a Maryland family, so needless to say, being football fans, know alot about DHB. Their only knock was that his QB sukt and he was double teamed all the time. But they never said anything about his hands being suspect.

    ^^^^^^
    Oh don’t worry….the haters will see 1 or 2 dropped balls out the 8 or 10 he catches in practice and then cry like babies and act like the world is coming to an end. Lets see if David White and Jerry Mac, be fair and objective when it comes to their little “tweets”

  142. AZ Raider Says:

    Aight Nation, time to get outta this office!

    RAIDER ON!!!!!

  143. 408RAIDER( FREE DIRTY) Says:

    raider on AZ….

  144. DirtyBathWater Says:

    ur crazy if you think garcia is gonna start

  145. 24 Says:

    Saw Mike Mitchell #34 on TV. The dude looks menacing without pads. This guy is built. He is gonna hurt some people.

  146. 408RAIDER( FREE DIRTY) Says:

    so um when is the next fix???/

  147. 24 Says:

    When Jerry damn well feels like it…haha.

  148. SNB Defense Says:

    Glen Dorsey flunks his conditioning test. Can’t practice until he passes the test. Hope Knowshon holds out for a few weeks

    http://myespn.go.com/blogs/afcwest/0-3-2523/Evening-Chiefs-and-Broncos-notes.html

  149. bombs4ya Says:

    read a couple of post yesterday about gruden…
    when he had the chance to bring to rings to oakland he ‘blew it . there wouldbe no tuck rule if on 3rd and 4 with 1:54 onthe clock he would have done a play-action pass for the first down !every-body and their mama knew he would run coach of the pats sure did.

    also against the ravens in the championship where no one in the league ran on the ravens gruden said i know i’ll run on first down 2nd down have a 3rd and long fail to get the first then punt . such imagination….

    he only beat us in the bowl ‘cuz of the dumbest coach in america and b-rob going bipolar.

    he left two trophies out their davis said you’re traded !

    jeff garcia : will be on jamarcus jock strap week-one …. believe that !

  150. Thec Says:

    NEW POST

  151. Raider530 Says:

    I actually GO to the games and I couldn’t be any happier with the approach this year. So many times I saw our team out of position before the play even developed. Something had to change…….be patient and see if this works out. In the last two years I’ve seen really talented players, trying too hard to make a play and finding themselves out of the play instead. I like TC’s approach, it hasn’t been a lack of talent as much as as a lack of continuity.

  152. kvn Says:

    this first week of learning intensive practices might be a real good idea to avoid injuries, not only do they wrok on form and position it also gives them a week to get muscles streched out real good, and that sounds smart.

  153. Raidersafc Says:

    There are no doubt some intelligent Raiders fans commenting here mixed in with a lot of dross of faux Raiders fans. Tom Cable was improving the team by the end of last year and so was JaMarcus Russell. Jeff Garcia was a failed QB from a failed Tom Gruden coached team, even though Garcia has been a good QB. If you want to put a spoke in the Raiders future development you would bench JaMarcus in favour of Jeff and thereby halt JaMarcus’ improvement and hand the reins to a QB he beat in their last head to head matchup and who is soon to be retired. Also, some of those self-professed Raiders fans who are now dissing Tom Cable seemingly aren’t happen unless they can prophecy the Raiders’ failure again and then take credit for foretelling it if it happens. Obviously if it doesn’t happen they will just drop into the wood work and pretend they said nothing but they will crow if their predictions come out. If they enjoy being so negative about the Raiders, I would suggest they find another team to support such as the Broncos or the Chiefs or the Chargers, with friends like them who needs enemies. Nobody is perfect, but Tom Cable has made obvious improvements so it is too early to pull the plug on him and not give him the leeway he has earned from the positive impact he has made. Of course maybe those negative fans (some people might term them haters) would be happier following UT and LK. For those who hope Jeff Garcia starts, why not bring back Dante Pastorini, he was the QB that many similar haters in the past wanted to continue starting and leave Jim Plunkett on the bench. It worked out well to the Raiders benefit and probably to those so-called fans disappointment. No need to mention the haters by name because that would just stroke their egos and they know who they are.

  154. Kirk Says:

    Walker, Fargas, DeAngelo Hall, Kelly, etc…

    Al Davis is a poor judge of talent.

    Can he actually see the game when he’s there?

  155. alz walker Says:

    Dakota
    Every year the players come out and say they love things the current coach is doing…in 2007 it was how much they loved the music and the day-night practices…then when Cable took over they loved that he ended practices on time…and when Art Shell was here the second time the players loved that he would pass out in meeting and they could leave early…and the players loved Ryan’s pizza parties and nap times and no accountability approach….

    Players love it!!! So what?

    That was great

  156. Riverside Raiders Fan Says:

    I don’t think I can handle another year of failure. The last six years have taken a toll and many of my friend are fans of other teams. When they play us, they usually get the last laugh. We need redemption, as in the Shawshank Redemption when Andy escaped with the warden’s money and ended up in (Sey Wat Te Neyo?) Mexico.

    Just Win, with an improve JR!

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