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Great Scott, a multiple defense?

By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Friday, July 31st, 2009 at 2:49 pm in Oakland Raiders.

Since Trevor Scott was open to talking about his defensive role Friday, it’s worth examining what might be in store for the second-year defensive end out of Buffalo.

We say might because we’ve seen the Raiders do these sorts of things before in practice, then often go back to what Al Davis believes they do best _ create pressure with a natural rush (usually with a four-man line) and depend on a tight man-to-man defense with one deep safety as the last line of defense.

The Raiders blitz during training camp practices. Always have. They blitz during OTAs and minicamps, some of which are open to the media. I’m assuming they do the same in their closed sessions.

Then the game starts, and, well, everyone wants to know why the hell Rob Ryan never blitzes. Ryan did blitz on occasion, but nearly as much as you’d think for a guy who believes so fiercely in pressure.

Conventional wisdom is the Raiders don’t blitz is because it’s an organizational philosophy, with the organization being someone who goes by the name of Mr. Davis. The blitzing in practice, you can surmise, is often done to prepare the offense for what they’re going to see.

With that as a backdrop, Scott was talking about a Friday session in the John Marshall-coached defense which he lined up in various positions and wasn’t in a three-point stance. He even dropped into coverage.

Asked if we might see Scott performing some of those duties this year, Cable said, “You know, we might. I really don’t want to talk about scheme.’’

(We’ll ask Marshall the same thing when he is made available to the media _ and chances are he’s not going to talk about scheme, either).

Scott gave his expanded duties a thumbs up, and also said he had done it in the offseason (not surprisingly, during the days the media wasn’t present at OTAs).

“I love it. It’s a lot of fun,’’ Scott said. “Mixing things up, give me an opportunity to do some different things and do well at ‘em. I like it a lot.”

Scott said he hadn’t played in an upright position since high school. A converted tight end, he promises he still has the hands to catch the ball and go the other way if placed in coverage.

He believes some of these new ideas will be implemented in games, not just in practice.

“Pretty much all the stuff that we run against our offense, we’re going to use on anybody, know what I mean?’’ Scott said. “We’ll give them a look . . . we’re going to run what we’re practicing.’’

More notes and quotes and observations:

– Moving Scott around at 256 pounds is the best way to get the most out of him, because even though he’s packed on some muscle, he’s not built to withstand the pounding of 330-pound tackles against the run.

– Cornerback Chris Johnson is unconcerned that despite a contract which paid him a $4 million signing bonus, and having the endorsement of Davis, he is alternating with Stanford Routt in the base defense.

“We are rotating right now, but at the end of the day I’m going to feel like I’m the starter, regardless of whatever happens,’’ Johnson said.

Johnson played extremely well over the last eight games after the DeAngelo Hall was written off like a Bernie Madoff investment.

“You know Tom Cable thought I could hold this position, and that’s why Mr. Davis felt this contract was a good deal for me,’’ Johnson said.

– Javon Walker remained mysterious about his offseason knee surgery which he said has him feeling better about his health than he has in years.

“I will say it’s new. It’s new,’’ Walker said of the procedure. He declined to be specific or even say where it was performed.

“I don’t know where it was done,’’ Walker said. “I’m clueless.’’

He believes the Raiders will get the receiver they expected when they paid him $12 million last year, a contract that was renegotiated downward and will pay him $4.6 million guaranteed over the next two years.

“When I get back out there, I’m just excited about working with some young guys who are going to push me more than I’m going to push them,’’ Walker said. “I’m also excited about letting Oakland see what Javon has to offer because I’m young, I’m in my prime right now.

“My ability hasn’t changed, my enthusiasm hasn’t changed. I’m just excited to be back to the Javon that was that first year in Denver and the Javon that was in Green Bay and all of a sudden have it translate here.’’

Walker said Thursday he expected to be on the sidelines for another two weeks. He is performing running, cutting and jumping drills with the athletic training staff at what looks like close to full speed with no sign of a limp or discomfort.

– Like a good politician, Ricky Brown feels strongly both ways about whether he’s a strong side or middle linebacker. He’s played both so far, occasionally with the first team.

“I’ve proved that I can be the opening day starter at the SAM linebacker. I think maybe my more natural position would be MIKE, just kind of the way I’m built, having good change of direction and all, but either one’s fine,’’ Brown said.

– Count linebacker and special teams standout Isaiah Ekejiuba as one of the players on board with Cable’s four-days-of-learning approach.

“It seemed like it was weird at first when he talked about the concept, but you go through it and it’s a great concept,’’ Cable said. “We’re doing a lot of learning, get all the mistakes out the way.

“They were talking about a lot of injuries that happen during camp happen the first five days of camp. So right now we’re doing a lot of mental work and leaving the physical work until Monday. And I think that’s going to help, help your body adjust real quick and then when it’s time to go, it’s time to go.”

– Wide receiver Todd Watkins on the Raiders options in route-running as opposed to last season:

“Last year we were like opening a children’s book when we ran our plays,’’ Watkins said. “Now we can take advantage of whatever we see, just simple tags on stuff we already have installed.’’

Watkins said he enjoyed his trip to Mobile, Ala., at the invitation of quarterback JaMarcus Russell.

“We worked out a couple days, and we worked on the things that we wanted to work on, without the pressure of having the coaches out there to nitpick, because we’re the ones ultimately who are going to be out there on the field,’’ Watkins said. “So as long as we’re on the same page, and see the same way, that’s what really matters.’’

Watkins said workouts, when not interrupted by thunderstorms, lasted 90 minutes to two hours. They took place at Williamson High School, where Russell was a local star. They worked with high school players in a clinic-like setting.

“A lot of people knew it was going on, because that’s his community. They know when he comes back,’’ Watkins said.

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  • http://www.oakglenn.com KoolKell

    Stick it up your asss Dakota.

  • lefty12

    instead of using the extra OTA we were allowed,we started camp a few days earlier and are doing what we would have done during the extra OTA with the whole team here instead of those who would have voluntarily showed.yea,sure is a dumb thing to do.

  • AZ Raider

    Hey Lefty, Cable already used his “extra” camp day for the passing game clinic.

    Is all good 12!

  • TheRealMaddenRaider

    Rather or not you agree with what Cable is doing I think we can all agree that 2009 is a make or break season for JR. Will he continue to be a fat, useless, inaccurate quarterback or will he become the black Moses? I think we all know the answer but most uf us are unwilling to accept what our logical minds are telling us.

  • Bryan

    Remember Raider fans, we have a QB with an IQ of 15. This fundamentals approach to begin camp just might be a good idea for gentle JaMarcus.

  • http://www.oakglenn.com KoolKell

    MR,..Jeff Garcia was brought here to start, you will see,..come the opener Jeff is starting,..Russell sucks.

  • Lefty12

    sorry i didnt know that AZ, I guess I should shut up now before I make a fool of myself like Mistabrowneye

  • http://www.oakglenn.com KoolKell

    Jeff Garcia will make this team respectable until Tim Tebow gets here.

  • http://IBABUZZ.com Tony Pigagoosa

    RaiderGator Says:
    July 31st, 2009 at 3:49 pm
    Been a fan for a looooonnnng time. To players, the present is always wonderful and the past always sucked monkey gonads.

    How bout you go suck monkey nutts?

    GaYtor, u n florida? Go Philip Buchanon!!

  • AZ Raider

    We all know Garcia is going to start eventually. Might as well make it right now instead of week 6 of the regular season right?

  • http://IBABUZZ.com Tony Pigagoosa

    King Of The Trolls Says:
    July 31st, 2009 at 4:01 pm
    Well, well, well, it appears I am back in business.

    fuk off sh!t for brains

    well, well, well i’m a troll troll troll

    what was your name during the prohibition, I mean reg period?

  • http://www.raiders.com Oakglenn

    Garcia starting? You people are all idiots! I don’t know why Priest and I put up with all of you tools. I am about to give up on the Nation since you are all tools.

  • Dakota

    I like sheep.

  • AZ Raider

    KK,

    come on with the Jeff Garcia stuff bro, your gonna jinx us ALL! Do you really want to see Garcia and his stupid jump passes, and running around the field like an R/C car you let get out of radio range?

    Shiiiiieeee, I don’t.

    What’s your hang up with Russell anyway. He hasn’t even got a decent shot to prove himself yet. Do you want to keep going with the old washed up vets? Where you impressed with the way Garcia played agaist our Defense (one of the worst in the league last year)? Dunno, man I don’t get where your head is at…

  • SNB Defense

    Yawn…guys, this is Russell’s year to prove out who he is going to become.

    This is truly the first yr where he has decent talent (pending the starting RT) since he’s been here.

    He also has receivers that want to play and a coach that wants to be here.

    Let’s wait until the year is out before we pass verdict on Russell. You guys always think the next Kurt Warner or Rich GAnnon is just around the corner.

    BTW, If Jeff Garcia has no chance of leading ANY team to the S.B….what would be the point in playing the 39 yr old QB? To prepare for next year? Really

    Its all about Russell and judging from some reports he is working harder and better with his teammates.

  • http://www.car.org KoolKell

    I like Cable’s approach in the opening practices. It speaks to the details of proper execution.

  • AZ Raider

    AZ Raider Says:
    July 31st, 2009 at 4:11 pm
    We all know Garcia is going to start eventually. Might as well make it right now instead of week 6 of the regular season right?
    ……………………………………………….

    Just because you can’t debate Raiders with me doesn’t mean you should troll my handle.

    Fuk off bro. If you want to engage in conversation with me, say something and prepare yourself…

    Douche bag trolls…

  • http://IBABUZZ.com Tony Pigagoosa

    Dakota Says:
    July 31st, 2009 at 4:15 pm
    I like sheep

    Why Dakotex? ya like them as in u like to do them?

  • http://IBABUZZ.com ButtHolePrick

    Yeah Oakglenn, I don’t know why either?

    maybe it is because nobody likes you outside of the blog

  • AZ Raider

    Oakglenn,

    Ignore the trolls for now… This site will be repaired soo enough.

    RAIDER ON!

  • no more infield…

    KK, Garcia starting over JR? Seriously? dude r u huffing or something? Put the spray paint down and seek help immediately.

  • Coach Elkins

    AZ Raider Says:
    July 31st, 2009 at 4:11 pm
    We all know Garcia is going to start eventually. Might as well make it right now instead of week 6 of the regular season right?
    _________________________________________________
    AZ Raider…this is why we shouldn’t have brought Garcia in at all….

    He should be the starter in week one….and by not having him be the starter right away shows indecision……he is a better QB at this point…but thats precisely why you don’t bring him in…

    It sets Russell back….already has….mentally, physcially….and now in relation to experience…

    It baffles me the Raiders couldn’t have forseen this…

    & with a 60 million dollar investment…

    UNBELIEVEABLE

  • no more infield…

    garcia did so much good last season in Tampon Bay. just stellar. So good in fact that they let him walk… Pu-lease people…

  • http://www.car.org KoolKell

    Jerry

    Are you going to let the blog return to the gutter?

    Folks, until registration returns, I will not be posting.

    AZ, the KoolKell comments going on here all day have not been mine. No Registration let’s Oakglenn/Trolls (Anti-Social Personalities) appropriate anyone Moniker.

    http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/antisocial-personality-disorder/DS00829

  • lefty12

    AZ-that wasn’t you saying we used the xtra on the passing camp was it?please tell me it wasn’t you but the child who has no ba!!s and has to post under others names,like #57,because that clinic or camp or whatever didn’t count,but i believe you knew that.

  • AZ Raider

    Coach Elkins Says:
    July 31st, 2009 at 4:27 pm
    AZ Raider Says:
    July 31st, 2009 at 4:11 pm
    We all know Garcia is going to start eventually. Might as well make it right now instead of week 6 of the regular season right?
    _________________________________________________
    AZ Raider…this is why we shouldn’t have brought Garcia in at all….

    He should be the starter in week one….and by not having him be the starter right away shows indecision……he is a better QB at this point…but thats precisely why you don’t bring him in…

    It sets Russell back….already has….mentally, physcially….and now in relation to experience…

    It baffles me the Raiders couldn’t have forseen this…

    & with a 60 million dollar investment…

    UNBELIEVEABLE
    ……………………………………………….

    Sorry coach, but that post was trolled. I am not a Garcia supporter other than being a back up. See this post, it was the real AZ :)

    ……………………………………………….

    #64

    AZ Raider Says:
    July 31st, 2009 at 4:16 pm
    KK,

    come on with the Jeff Garcia stuff bro, your gonna jinx us ALL! Do you really want to see Garcia and his stupid jump passes, and running around the field like an R/C car you let get out of radio range?

    Shiiiiieeee, I don’t.

    What’s your hang up with Russell anyway. He hasn’t even got a decent shot to prove himself yet. Do you want to keep going with the old washed up vets? Where you impressed with the way Garcia played agaist our Defense (one of the worst in the league last year)? Dunno, man I don’t get where your head is at…

  • http://www.oakglenn.com KoolKell

    Jerry go register your butt on craigslist, make a little extra money on the side, c`mon you know you would love it. Go Raiders!

  • Beeecham

    Don’t worry, Krappy. I knew the minute your little imposter friend insulted Dakota you were not behind it. AZ is a little slow in general to the happenings of the blog, so cut him a break.

    Anyway, there really isn’t much constructive blogging going on from any of my pals, just a lot of my followers getting free for a day. That’s fine, let them have their time in the sun. I’ll shoo them back into the closet soon enough.

    We’ll get back to business soon, Krappy ol pal!

  • AZ Raider

    Lefty, that was me, but I thought it did count. If you found out otherwise, sorry for the bunk information….

  • http://www.oakglenn.com KoolKell

    Jeff Garcia is so much better then Russell it isnt even close. Mr Davis is also aware of this, or he would not have signed him.

  • http://IBABUZZ.com ButtHolePrick

    KoolKell Says:
    July 31st, 2009 at 4:28 pm
    Jerry

    Are you going to let the blog return to the gutter?

    Folks, until registration returns, I will not be posting.

    AZ, the KoolKell comments going on here all day have not been mine. No Registration let’s Oakglenn/Trolls (Anti-Social Personalities) appropriate anyone Moniker.

    u old scumb bag pisss bucket foogey

    get off the geritol and creamy discharge from yer mom pantys

  • 24

    Some of this stuff is good to read but thats all it is until I see this stuff work on the field.

    Trevor Scott moving around? What does that even mean? 3-4? I seriously doubt it. We’ll see.

    More blitzes? Suuurrreeeee.

    Its interesting that Routt is getting a chance to compete. Theres really nothing wrong with it. Let the guy have a chance and make sure that Johnson still fights for his position so we have the best guy on Sunday but I just can’t see Routt beating out Johnson.

    Javon Walker is talking a good game but thats like talking about blitzing more or running a 3-4 or whatever. I’ll believe it when I see it.

    If Ricky Brown proves to be a really good Middle linebacker…does that mean Morrison finally moves to Strongside? I think I’m ok with that.

    Why is anybody asking Todd Watkins a question? He won’t even make the team.

  • AZ Raider

    Kool Beans, Kool Kell… Is all goooooooood.

  • lefty12

    thet could have had another OTA but instead decided to start camp a few days early,which i guess is ok by the rules.don’t know about that for sure though,but i know they could have had 1 more OTA.

  • http://IBABUZZ.com ButtHolePrick

    Beeecham Says:
    July 31st, 2009 at 4:34 pm
    Don’t worry, Krappy. I knew the minute your little imposter friend insulted Dakota you were not behind it. AZ is a little slow in general to the happenings of the blog, so cut him a break.

    Anyway, there really isn’t much constructive blogging going on from any of my pals, just a lot of my followers getting free for a day. That’s fine, let them have their time in the sun. I’ll shoo them back into the closet soon enough.

    We’ll get back to business soon, Krappy ol pal!

    bring it beechnut

    arnt u the puzzy that would not fight that girl Dirtycoon?

    Whats the matter, ya couldn’t find him with all the other coons on the south side of sacramento?

  • http://www.oakglenn.com KoolKell

    Michael Vick would be better then Russell,..hell so would Michael Jackson. Who said that?…lol

  • Die, Al. Die.

    Remedial camp for remedial players. Makes sense.

  • 24

    Jerrymcd Strength coach Brad Roll during stretching: We’re bringing in the smokers tonight. You name it, we’re smoking it . . .(meat, I presume) .

  • AZ Raider

    24

    I’ve been lobbying for the 3-4 for the last couple years. You can have 1 EXTREMELEY good DT and a shitload of Ok LB’s and 1 GREAT DE and WHAMMY! ….decent defense in 1 draft :)

  • http://www.oakglenn.com KoolKell

    I will be back in about 5 hours,..time fore me to go take a huge chit,..usually takes about 5 hours. brb

  • Al Davis Has Cojones

    Best news on here:

    No Jay Richardson, No Michelle Huff.

  • 24

    AZ Raider – Honestly. It doesn’t matter what we run as long as its successful.

  • AZ Raider

    24 Says:
    July 31st, 2009 at 4:40 pm
    Jerrymcd Strength coach Brad Roll during stretching: We’re bringing in the smokers tonight. You name it, we’re smoking it . . .(meat, I presume) .
    ……………………………………………….

    LEAGALIZE IT!!!!!!!!!!

  • AZ Raider

    24 – True dat…

  • Coach Elkins

    Tom Cable is 4-8 and he had the luxury of 5 Special Teams scores in his 12 games…..

    We’re in trouble folks…

  • http://www.oakglenn.com KoolKell

    Tom Cable is a joke…Mr Davis could have brought back Gruden, but he didnt…sucks…by the way, Im on the toilet,..can ya smell it?…Who said that?…lol

  • Al Davis Has Cojones

    “Quarterbacks coach Paul Hackett pulled the quarterbacks to a corner for audible drills. With no one else around, the quarterbacks had to practice making a snap count, backing away from the imaginary center to call an audible — hand motions and all — then take a “snap” and drop back.

    Hackett mixed it up by calling out defensive looks, requiring the quarterbacks to declare what audible they would go to in that situation.”

    This team hasnt called an audible in 6 years….at least the right one.

  • Beeecham

    In all this training camp excitement, I’m wondering where my good pal Charged Down wandered off to? There’s no way he’s back in school yet, must be rehearsing with his totally cool cover band.

    And again fellas, I apologize for all of my followers acting up like this. They get very worked up when I let them blog. But don’t worry – soon we’ll be back in the happy world of registration together!

  • AZ Raider

    Coach…

    Tom Cable is 0-0 as Head Coach. Gotta give him a season brotha. The Kiffin clean up was hard on ME even. Can’t imagine what it must of been like in the locker room…

  • http://Raiders.com Oakglenn

    # AZ Raider Says:
    July 31st, 2009 at 4:27 pm

    Oakglenn,

    Ignore the trolls for now… This site will be repaired soo enough.

    RAIDER ON!
    ———————————————-

    That isn’t me AZ