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Quick hits

Some quick hits from Day 2 of “learning intensive’’ practices:

Q: Is there any update on Derrick Burgess, coach?

Tom Cable: No.

And that’s your official Raiders statement on Burgess, who has missed voluntary workouts for the last few years but has expanded his repetoire.

– Few plays run to completion, even during seven-on-seven drills, which made it more than a little comical when defensive coordinator John Marshall said, “It’s about time for a pick.’’

If the Raiders did manage a pick when quarterbacks were not throwing the ball, now that would have been a story.

– One of the first drills, one that last a good 10 minutes, was positioning for “run fits,’’ or where defenders “fit’’ into gaps to stop the opposition from running.

– Wide receiver Darrius Heyward-Bey got past Stanford Routt during a drill, he drew the praise of Willie Brown, “He’s so fast and quick, got a nice release . . . we’ve got something for you next week, though.’’

Brown didn’t have to wait a week. Routt slowed Heyward-Bey with an initial shove. “Nice hands,’’ Brown said.

Replied Routt: “Gotta slow him down.’’

– Speaking of Routt, Cable said he’s in a competition with Chris Johnson to start at corner opposite Asomugha, and the reps would seem to bear that out.

Johnson said the job is his. More on that later . . .

– Cable didn’t want to delve into specifics, so we won’t here, either, but Trevor Scott is doing more than putting his hand down and rushing a defensive end. More on that later . . .

– Kirk Morrison and Thomas Howard have started 32 games alongside each other, but aren’t always on the same page.

“Under, under, under, under!,’’ barked linebackers coach Mike Haluchak with regard to a coverage. “You’ve got to communicate!’’

– Visual evidence (seeing Terdell Sands leave the field house in a tank top and shorts) suggests the defensive tackle is in the best shape he has been since joining the Raiders.

– Recently-waived quarterback Danny Southwick is still around, but not in uniform. He holds a clipboard much of the time, but for a short period of time he was throwing passes to Chaz Schilens and Heyward-Bey. He classified himself as an “intern.’’

– It’s a year to the day since Javon Walker told Al Davis he was considering retirement, after which Lane Kiffin openly questioned his desire. None of that this year. Walker can hardly wait to take the field, although that could be two weeks away.

“When they let me loose, it’s on after that,’’ Walker said.

Walker had plenty else to say about what he hopes is a miraculous comeback season.

More on that later . . .

– Defensive end Jay Richardson has not been getting snaps with the first team, and often not with the second team either.

– Here’s your training camp definition of TMI , or Too Much Information for those of you who are acronym challenged. Tommy Kelly jogged off the field briefly, only to return a short time later.

He went to the restroom, Cable reported.

Not sure if he really had to go, or if it was a false start. He made his fourth false start in two days.

– Five more “learning intensive’’ practices to go before the hitting begins.

“I looked over at you guys and wondered why you’re even out here,’’ one player said.

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  • Raider Fan – 405

    Thanks Jerry, keep the blogs and tweets coming!!

  • Raider Fan – 405

    I love the line from DWhite:

    Walker was very cryptic when asked about the surgical procedure, saying “it’s something new … it’s going to be something amazing that’s going to benefit and help a lot of athletes.”

    Walker declined to say anything else about the procedure. When asked if it was in the United States, Walker said, “I don’t know where it was done. I’m clueless.”

    what?? huh? Dont know where – smells fishy!!

  • http://IBABUZZ.com Tony Pigagoosa

    Fuk the Dischargers

  • http://www.dannysouthwick.com DO NOT HATE ON MY BOY SOUTHWICK

    AZ Raider Says:
    July 31st, 2009 at 12:37 pm

    Yeah, and Southwick is a long last name too, and they they even spell out the first name Danny Southwick…. That’s alot of wasted pixles. Try D.S., or 4th strg, or something short…

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    AZ Raider, you left out the other Z in your name.

  • Terdell’s Gunt

    GO RAIDERS!!

  • Raider Fan – 405

    - From D White
    Walker was very cryptic when asked about the surgical procedure, saying “it’s something new … it’s going to be something amazing that’s going to benefit and help a lot of athletes.”

    Walker declined to say anything else about the procedure. When asked if it was in the United States, Walker said, “I don’t know where it was done. I’m clueless.”

    Something to be said for someone that refers to themselves in the 3rd person and doesn’t know where he had surgery that will revolutionize all athletes.
    Thanks for the encouragement Walker!

  • Florida Pete

    lemme guess…

    they’re gonna see how Scott works out at linebacker…

  • http://www.dannysouthwick.com DO NOT HATE ON MY BOY SOUTHWICK

    – Recently-waived quarterback Danny Southwick is still around, but not in uniform. He holds a clipboard much of the time, but for a short period of time he was throwing passes to Chaz Schilens and Heyward-Bey. He classified himself as an “intern.’’

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    HOW BOUT THEM PIZELS AZZ RAIDER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Florida Pete

    the Rams had Jim Zorn as an intern if i recall correctly…

    trying to remember the story…

  • http://raiders.com RaiderTW

    I’m going to give JWalker a BIG margin of error & say he thought the question was where was the procedure developed. Then he makes sense.

  • http://IBABUZZ.com Tony Pigagoosa

    Fuk u 405!

    Can’t you see/read walker was being sarcastic??

  • http://www.dannysouthwick.com DO NOT HATE ON MY BOY SOUTHWICK

    Raider Fan – 405 Says:
    July 31st, 2009 at 12:46 pm
    - From D White
    Walker was very cryptic when asked about the surgical procedure, saying “it’s something new … it’s going to be something amazing that’s going to benefit and help a lot of athletes.”

    Walker declined to say anything else about the procedure. When asked if it was in the United States, Walker said, “I don’t know where it was done. I’m clueless.”

    Something to be said for someone that refers to themselves in the 3rd person and doesn’t know where he had surgery that will revolutionize all athletes.
    Thanks for the encouragement Walker!

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    Do you understand what 3rd person means? Leon can’t do it all…

  • jhill

    Cable has also opened up middle linebacker, where Ricky Brown gets a crack to unseat leading tackler Kirk Morrison.

    Right defensive end seems less open than anticipated. Trevor Scott is getting all the snaps with returning starter Jay Richardson stuck with the second unit.

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    No Pete, Scott is the RDE. Marshall does go to a 3-3-5 set in some Nickel situations, but Scott will not be in coverage.

  • Die, Al. Die.

    Learning intensive. Learning where to line up, what their assignments are, what they’re supposed to be doing…

    If ever there was a defense that needed this sort of practice, it’s this one. Good on Marshall for having the sense to start at square one with this bunch.

  • Dakota

    Oakglenn,

    I don’t know that your explanation can account for the 2007 season. Kiffin wasn’t purposefully doing things in those games to put the defense in bad spots, in fact, we actually had an advantage in time of possession with our offense controlling the clock with the running game, and yet Rob Ryan’s defense blew how many 4th quarter leads that year? 4? 5? I can’t remember anymore…it was like a nightmare.

    How could Kiffin not want a new DC after that? Our supposed great passing defense from 2006 was proven to be a sham, nothing more than a result of teams not having to pass against us because we couldn’t score or stop the run in 2006. no matter who his dad is or what his brother has done, Rob Ryan was a miserable failure in Oakland…let’s see what he can do in Cleveland running a 3-4…

  • http://IBABUZZ.com Tony Pigagoosa

    Q. hey TW what site do you spend yer life on?

    A. I have no clue! I am clueless!

    Q. What is that hanging out of you A$$?

    A. “I got this one” that is my thumb!

  • Raider Fan – 405

    Yeah, I know what it means to refer to yourself in the third person, that’s for the lessons.

    Problem is, Walker by most accounts has done nothing but cause problems and get a paycheck.

  • http://IBABUZZ.com Tony Pigagoosa

    jhill Says:
    July 31st, 2009 at 12:51 pm
    Cable has also opened up middle linebacker, where Ricky Brown gets a crack to unseat leading tackler Kirk Morrison.

    Right defensive end seems less open than anticipated. Trevor Scott is getting all the snaps with returning starter Jay Richardson stuck with the second unit.

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    No Pete, Scott is the RDE. Marshall does go to a 3-3-5 set in some Nickel situations, but Scott will not be in coverage.

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    hey jhill b!tch

    go get me a turkey pot pie!

  • Twocents

    Looking at Jerry’s cherubic mug on Twitter, he definitely looks like a troublemaker.

    Probably a juvenile delinquent in his youth.

  • Florida Pete

    jhill Says:
    July 31st, 2009 at 12:51 pm
    Cable has also opened up middle linebacker, where Ricky Brown gets a crack to unseat leading tackler Kirk Morrison.

    Right defensive end seems less open than anticipated. Trevor Scott is getting all the snaps with returning starter Jay Richardson stuck with the second unit.

    —————————————————

    No Pete, Scott is the RDE. Marshall does go to a 3-3-5 set in some Nickel situations, but Scott will not be in coverage.

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    i hosed my own joke… i was reponding to this:

    – Cable didn’t want to delve into specifics, so we won’t here, either, but Trevor Scott is doing more than putting his hand down and rushing a defensive end. More on that later . .

    i meant to say:

    they’re gonna see how Scott works out at tight end…

  • http://raiders.com RaiderTW

    I see MR has added a new demented personality in Tony Pigagoosa. Disappear, stick your head up your ass & JUMP!

  • Coach Elkins

    The real question is, what does Coach Cable’s T-Shirt say today?

  • Dakota

    DWhite:

    Walker was very cryptic when asked about the surgical procedure, saying “it’s something new … it’s going to be something amazing that’s going to benefit and help a lot of athletes.”

    Walker declined to say anything else about the procedure. When asked if it was in the United States, Walker said, “I don’t know where it was done. I’m clueless.”
    _________________________

    Give the guy a break, he scored a 7 on the wonderlic…it is a miracle that he can tie his own sh0es in the morning!

  • http://sportmag.us/images/Lester_Hayes_November_1981.jpg RaiderDogg

    OG

    No worries bro, sorry for the misinterpretation. I never even really know it’s you now that registration has been removed.

  • Twocents

    Walker wears “Loafers”.

  • AZ Raider

    More on that later….

    More on that later….

    More on that later….

    Chris johnson getting beat out by Routt? Way to go Routt if you can do it, but damn… Either you got a hell of alot better or Chris was a one year wonder?

    Scott taking snaps at LB?

    C’mon, Chris, get your game back… Shoulda gone to Prime-U again LOL.

  • http://sportmag.us/images/Lester_Hayes_November_1981.jpg RaiderDogg

    Darren McFadden continues to line up often as a wideout, and Cable promises an expanded role for last year’s No. 4 overall pick — if only to get two good running backs on the field at once.

    “There’s no question about that,” Cable said. “You have to find a way to get those people involved because really they’re all three playmakers in their own way.”

  • http://sportmag.us/images/Lester_Hayes_November_1981.jpg RaiderDogg

    When Cable says they are going back to basics, he isn’t kidding.

    Quarterbacks coach Paul Hackett pulled the quarterbacks to a corner for audible drills. With no one else around, the quarterbacks had to practice making a snap count, backing away from the imaginary center to call an audible — hand motions and all — then take a “snap” and drop back.

    Hackett mixed it up by calling out defensive looks, requiring the quarterbacks to declare what audible they would go to in that situation.

  • Dakota

    Great, convert McFadden to a WR to get more touches for Fargas, lol.

  • http://sportmag.us/images/Lester_Hayes_November_1981.jpg RaiderDogg

    dmcfadden20 Time for my nap be4 tha next practice

  • http://sportmag.us/images/Lester_Hayes_November_1981.jpg RaiderDogg

    Why does McFadden need a nap? It’s not even hot up here and they aren’t doing anything labor intensive.

  • http://www.niners.com Norco Bob

    I want you to all know that Im not gay…ok?…pass it on.

  • no more infield…

    can someone post links to dwhites twitter page and also jerry’s? thanks in advance.

  • http://IBABUZZ.com Tony Pigagoosa

    Fugg mr i’ll eat that bishes lunch.

    what the fuk is jhill anyway? a bird?

  • Dakota

    Dogg,

    People that are depressed often need naps…when Cable ran up to McFadden when McFadden first got to camp and asked him to draw up some more plays, McFadden got a little depressed okay…give the guy a break!

  • http://IBABUZZ.com Tony Pigagoosa

    Dorko, yer g@y alrighy. jus cum out the closet!

    pull the plunger from yer azz

  • no more infield…

    why are there so many gay refferences on this board? Did something change while I was away? stick to raider football morons or go find a bathhouse…

  • http://sportmag.us/images/Lester_Hayes_November_1981.jpg RaiderDogg

    twitter.com/Jerrymcd

    twitter.com/bydavidwhite

  • http://www.niners.com Norco Bob

    Darn…my butt really is sore…cant figure out why.

  • http://sportmag.us/images/Lester_Hayes_November_1981.jpg RaiderDogg

    Dakota

    I think the word “nap” is McFadden slang for “knock up some Napa hottie”.

  • Dakota

    Lol…you are probably right about that Dogg!

  • Dakota

    Lakers waive Sun Yue! There goes the 2010 championship!

  • http://Raiders.com Oakglenn

    # Dakota Says:
    July 31st, 2009 at 12:37 pm

    Oakglenn,

    I don’t know that your explanation can account for the 2007 season. Kiffin wasn’t purposefully doing things in those games to put the defense in bad spots, in fact, we actually had an advantage in time of possession with our offense controlling the clock with the running game, and yet Rob Ryan’s defense blew how many 4th quarter leads that year? 4? 5? I can’t remember anymore…it was like a nightmare.

    How could Kiffin not want a new DC after that? Our supposed great passing defense from 2006 was proven to be a sham, nothing more than a result of teams not having to pass against us because we couldn’t score or stop the run in 2006. no matter who his dad is or what his brother has done, Rob Ryan was a miserable failure in Oakland…let’s see what he can do in Cleveland running a 3-4…
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    Yes and no. Kiffin wanted his dad for a variety of reasons, Al wanted Kiffin to improve the O and not worry about the D. Kiffin moved us up from 32nd in offense to 25th. Shoot, if I was the Head Coach, and OC, after Shell, I would have moved us up too. Kiffin did not earn more hiring responsibility. Actually, our pass defense was pretty good for most of the 2006-2008 seasons. Maybe not the best in the league, but certainly in the top third. And with a more sustained pass rush (looking at D. Burgess, towel on head, nursing a “calf” here) it probably would have been top 5. Again, and I have said this a ton of times here. Offenses, HAVE to win games in the fourth quarter in the contemporary NFL. With all the rule changes to “liberate” scoring, defenses are at a disadvantage. Please note the last two Super Bowl games, where ALL FOUR TEAMS, marched down the field and scored in the end. With all the rule changes and going for on it on fourth down, it is not like it used to be as far as defenses making great stands. It’s best to be up by 10-14 points late if you expect to win. We never were.

  • 909RaiderLifer

    Jerry Mac…

    Why are you guys there?

  • http://Raiders.com Oakglenn

    July 31st, 2009 at 1:05 pm
    OG

    No worries bro, sorry for the misinterpretation. I never even really know it’s you now that registration has been removed.

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    total non issue dogg.

  • http://sportmag.us/images/Lester_Hayes_November_1981.jpg RaiderDogg

    OG

    I will be doing the Mule VIP treatment in September at the Warfield. Will you be in the house?

  • Dakota

    I hear what you are saying Oakglenn. Let’s just hope then that the offense improves quite a bit in 2009 to help take some of that pressure off of the D. Make some opponents have to throw that ball to beat us once in a while and things will look better overall.

  • http://www.dannysouthwick.com DO NOT HATE ON MY BOY SOUTHWICK

    RaiderDogg Says:
    July 31st, 2009 at 1:11 pm
    When Cable says they are going back to basics, he isn’t kidding.

    Quarterbacks coach Paul Hackett pulled the quarterbacks to a corner for audible drills. With no one else around, the quarterbacks had to practice making a snap count, backing away from the imaginary center to call an audible — hand motions and all — then take a “snap” and drop back.

    Hackett mixed it up by calling out defensive looks, requiring the quarterbacks to declare what audible they would go to in that situation.

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    Such MFing good news! Russell couldn’t diagnose a damn thing last year! Auduble to DMAC! He should be a blitz nullifier like Faulk was! BSJ loves him some exclamation points!

  • http://sportmag.us/images/Lester_Hayes_November_1981.jpg RaiderDogg

    Mr53 I’m trying to put the final touches on my foundation website before I take this nap. The Thomas Howard Walk-On scholarship coming soon…

    I guess Thomas Howard is hitting some Napa tail as well…

  • http://Raiders.com Oakglenn

    Dogg, Might be. Let me rephrase that. Most likely will be.
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    Dakota, I don’t think there is any doubt Marshall will be an improvement. Let me ask you a question. Say, you were a great established NFL coach, and you had your choice: you could either work with Mike Holmgren and his team, or some knuckle head that never coached at any level in his life. Where would you go?? What I am saying is raiding Holmgrens staff and bringing them here, is most likely going to be an improvement over some of the guys that were brought here by Kiffin.