Walker ascends, DHB struggles
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Sunday, August 2nd, 2009 at 7:02 pm in Oakland Raiders.
Quick hits from the final practice of the “learning phase” of Raiders training camp:
– What went on in the workout area Sunday evening was more interesting than anything that was taking place on the field.
Wide receiver Javon Walker, who two days before talked talked with unbridled optimism about his health and claimed to be in the prime of his career, looked to be at least something approaching that as he put on a show with a member of the Raiders athletic training staff.
Walker ran at what looked to be full speed with an effortless glide. He ran short and intermediate patterns, at one point reaching back on a short crossing route and snatching a pass with his left hand without slowing down.
He ran patterns 25 to 30-yard downfield, reaching out and catching the ball at his highest point with good acceleration. Walker dropped exactly one pass that I saw during a drill in which he ran directly forward at the passer on a controlled run.
After the pass-catching was done, Walker was jumping over a series of obstacles set in his path with explosive leaps, showing no sign of a limp. He then jumped and twisted over each obstacle, a drill which would surely cause some pain to a defective knee.
Instead, Walker appeared buoyant as his session concluded, taking off on a run to join his teammates on the field for the end of practice.
When it comes to Walker, I’ve been one of the biggest skeptics since the moment he signed during free agency last year. Now I’m curious and cautiously optimistic.
If the Raiders suddenly have a physical veteran receiver who could get 50-plus catches, 800-plus yards and get in the end zone, it’s a huge bonus. And frankly, a bargain, considering he renegotiated his contact downward to $4.6 million over the next two years.
From free agent bust to Comeback Player of the Year?
Not so fast, but Walker’s progress is suddenly a story worth watching closely. Walker said as camp opened he thought he’d be out two weeks.
Depending on how he feels, the Raiders might consider moving that up and could always keep Walker out of padded practices and easing him in to no-contact sessions.
– Meanwhile, rookie No. 7 overall pick Darrius Heyward-Bey struggled to catch the ball, at one point leaving three catchable passes on the ground, one time punting a drop into the air in frustration. Keep in mind none of these plays came against defenders. That won’t happen until Monday’s first padded practice at 3:30 p.m.
Heyward-Bey gave his Rickey Dudley impression in the presence of Al Davis, who was driven over in a golf cart to talk to Heyward-Bey afterward. Also present was wide receivers coach Sanjay Lal.
Rest assured, the more Heyward-Bey struggles, the more Lal will be held responsible.
Heyward-Bey had looked more fluid and sure-handed in the morning session.
– Heyward-Bey wasn’t alone. Will Franklin has struggled catching the ball, and even sure-handed Darren McFadden had a deep throw from Russell fall to the ground.
– Also getting an audience with Davis following practice were linemen Greg Ellis, Trevor Scott and Jay Richardson, with Ellis sticking around for an extended conversation.
– While waiting to see if Davis had anything to say to the media regarding Derrick Burgess or anything else (he didn’t _ reporters were ushered out before he left the practice area) coach Tom Cable walked past and said, “Why don’t you guys go out and have some fun. Or come and watch some film _ your choice.”
I’m going to assume he was kidding about the film.
I’m passing on the morning walkthrough and will file again following the padded practice. I’ll file occasional updates on my Twitter page.
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August 2nd, 2009 at 7:06 pm
Javon = good news
August 2nd, 2009 at 7:10 pm
DEUCE!
August 2nd, 2009 at 7:12 pm
Javon sucks.
August 2nd, 2009 at 7:15 pm
Are my eyes decieving me or is walker showing off out there? Omfg man I swear if he makes it through camp healthy and still shutting it down, opponent better watch out, we already have a big fast guy that catches circus passes and I don’t need to mention his name, he will be house hold by mid week! Lets go Raiders its time to hit!!!!!!
August 2nd, 2009 at 7:15 pm
javon may make 99% of you eat your words.
August 2nd, 2009 at 7:18 pm
I wouldn’t worry about the rookie he will get it together, sht id drop the ball to with the crypt keeper staring me down! I hope our guys can stay healthy and get through camp without any major injuries.
August 2nd, 2009 at 7:19 pm
DHB, COULD YOU PLEASE LEARN TO CATCH THE DAMN BALL!!
August 2nd, 2009 at 7:25 pm
Damn walker as of rite now. I doubt he will become a viable wr option
August 2nd, 2009 at 7:27 pm
“New rookie speedster Darrius Heyward Bey is on board to stretch the field at wide out, complimented by last years surprises, Johnnie Lee Higgins and 7th round pick Chaz Schilens, but the X factor could be current PUP lister, WR Javon Walker.
Walker won’t go into specifics of the procedure he had this off season to his knee, but stated today he feels better physically than he has in ages.
If he can get and stay fully healthy through out 09′, he could be, believe it or not, the one making big plays for the silver and black.”
From the Raider Nation Station article “Oakland Raider Arsenal I read 3 days ago.
Go Raiders!
August 2nd, 2009 at 7:28 pm
Yo brien!
August 2nd, 2009 at 7:29 pm
BWAH HA!
I hope Marshall’s gone before opening day.
Couldn’t happen to a nicer organization…
McDaniel’s, you rawk!
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=ap-broncos-marshall&prov=ap&type=lgns
August 2nd, 2009 at 7:32 pm
Man, Jerry, I sure appreciate your work. And then I appreciate the fan comments (the ones that have some real take). Thank you!
August 2nd, 2009 at 7:36 pm
wouldn’t that be the story of the year?! Javon Walker “Come Back Player of the Year”!
August 2nd, 2009 at 7:49 pm
Hopefully DHB gets the drops out of his system now. Come game time we will see what happens. I’m really rooting for Javon Walker. If he is truly healthy then we have a bad as receiver. If not who cares we have young talent to develop. But Javon being healthy is our X factor. A play making WR will be what makes or breaks our season. The running game is already proven. If we can actually start scoring points the running Defense will improve.
August 2nd, 2009 at 7:49 pm
I think you can figure that one out there Einstein….
August 2nd, 2009 at 8:10 pm
Man, Jerry Mac is following my lead. I told you all that DHB is the second coming of Ricky Dudley. Now before you all start arguing like 5th grad boys in a pick up game about how this is just the beginning of camp, and DHB needing time to develop, blah, blah, blah, the fact remains there are a ton of rookie wide outs that come ready to play in week one; DHB is not one of them, and certainly not worth wasting the seventh pick for the sake of “hopefully” having him develop into a “capable” wide receiver. You don’t waist a seventh pick on hopeful or capable.
The proof is in the pudding. Dudley has returned.
“Heyward-Bey gave his Rickey Dudley impression in the presence of Al Davis, who was driven over in a golf cart to talk to Heyward-Bey afterward.”
Bet the conversation went something like this:
Al: Ricky er’ I mean Darius, don’t worry about catching the football. Just run fast 40 times because one 65 yard TD bombs during a sixteen game season is all I need in my old age to prove I still have my football sense.
Of course the WR coach is going to take heat for DHB, Al Davis is never wrong remember. Never mind that Murphy is so not much of a story because nothing is expected of him. But I bet it won’t be long till reports start to surface about all the eyes Murphy opens up in camp. This is just the beginning.
August 2nd, 2009 at 8:13 pm
But hey no need to worry people, according to Priest DHB runs great routs…better than Tim Brown.
August 2nd, 2009 at 8:20 pm
As long as he keeps working hard, I have confidence in DHB. Unlike Craptree, DHB is a project that will need to continue to improve to realize his full potential. If he stops working hard, then fuggedaboutit.
As for Walker, I’m gonna jump on the comeback player of the year bandwagon WOOOOOOOO! Hope I don’t get disappointed.
August 2nd, 2009 at 8:25 pm
Let’s look at it this way. Shilens, DHB, and Louis Murphy: 7th, 1st, and 4th rounder. We know that two of them will pan out if not all three. With draft positions like that, one or two is NOT supposed to make it yet we know at least two will.
The Saints are going through the exact same thing. Colston was a 7th rounder and Meachem was a 1st rounder. On Radio today the commentators at Saints camp all said that the top 4 receivers ran better routs than Meachem. This is his third year and it doesn’t look like he will sniff the field. Year before last he was the only 1st rounder to not suit up a game the whole season in the NFL.
August 2nd, 2009 at 8:26 pm
No dhb,..I cannot, your name you are using is insinuating troy williamson was either good or bad,…and for some reason you feel dhb is like him,…so which is it,..good or bad?….were you one of the people in here wanting crabtree?
August 2nd, 2009 at 8:28 pm
504, right now I think the two most likely candidates for instant success are Schilens and Murphy. Schilens because he has already seen some success, and Murphy because he looks smoother than DHB.
DHB has more upside than those two, the question is if he will take advantage. I think he can.
August 2nd, 2009 at 8:29 pm
If Javon is doing that, he needs to practice the remainder of camp like Garcia did today.
August 2nd, 2009 at 8:34 pm
Is Troy Williamson good? I wanted a OL but I would take Crabtree over DHB any day of the week.
August 2nd, 2009 at 8:37 pm
DarthP,
I don’t care which one puts up the numbers as long as one of them do. Another fast guy I recall had the same type of speed and same type of hands, Donte Stallworth turned out allright. DHB just needs to work more with JaMarcus. He gotta understand it aint Chad Pennington loafing balls out there. Either that or go seek some advice from Lester Hayes.
August 2nd, 2009 at 8:43 pm
MR, stop with the DHB hate. At least be original dont rip off the cctimes article. Use your own stuff
August 2nd, 2009 at 8:46 pm
Take Crabtree? Lol why so you can get a guy that doesnt fit your scheme?
August 2nd, 2009 at 8:46 pm
DHB guy,…I understand how you are feeling brokenhearted that the Raiders passed on Crabtree,..you watch much Big 12 football?…I do,..ya hes a quick little guy with some flash,..nice stats,.ever wonder why they dont run that version of the spread in the NFL?…know where Crabtrees QB got drafted?…watch some UFL and you will see him,…the Belitnikoff winner ALWAYS goes to the wr with the best stats,…there were alot of other teams that didnt like Crabtree either,…I remember Jerry Rices rookie year,…in this day and age he likely would have been cut during that 1st year,…but people like you have no patience and will only comment on a dropped ball, you likely wont ever say anything about the great plays he will make,..try being less of a neg-head bud,…or is that how you roll?
August 2nd, 2009 at 8:47 pm
We should have taken Eugene Monroe.
Until Davis starts taking linemen in the first round, we will continue to suck.
August 2nd, 2009 at 8:47 pm
Yo brien!,..wattap bro?
August 2nd, 2009 at 8:47 pm
LOL! What scheme would that be?
August 2nd, 2009 at 8:48 pm
Brien dont waste your time with dhb guy,..hes a little crybaby that likes to snivle.
August 2nd, 2009 at 8:50 pm
jerry did say dhb look more fluid in the morning sessison. lets give the kid a chance .at least with dudley he looked good this time of the year. then game time had the drops. hopefully it’s visa-versa with#12 .he’s got tremendous upside and when he breaks out he could be dynamic lets wait till game time before y’all start pouring the hater-ade. when we took namdi people were like ‘WTF… he struggled a little bit look at him now i see the same with dhb.
August 2nd, 2009 at 8:50 pm
I look at results, I am just weird that way. Crabtree is alot more than a system WR, took me all of 2 games to see that. Youd be droolin over his ass if the Raiders had drafted him instead of a pure speed dude.
August 2nd, 2009 at 8:51 pm
MR, the Raiders arent running the same offense as they did in 07 and 08. You do read right? You do know they want to stretch the field this year?
August 2nd, 2009 at 8:53 pm
DHB,..check the archives,…I never wanted him,…I wanted the Raiders to take Mualuuga at 7,..high yes but thats who I wanted…as far as Crabtree vs DHB?…easy,..actually anyone but Crabtree was what I was saying,…as I said, I watch alot of Big 12,..you clearly dont.
August 2nd, 2009 at 8:54 pm
Lol,..MR looks at results,..what did Crabtrees QB get with his astronomical results?…undrafted…Crabtree wont do much in the NFL,..and in SF he will do nothing at all.
August 2nd, 2009 at 8:54 pm
Oh they want to stretch the field, eh? What is DHB just gonna run 9 routes 24/7? LOL! Stretch the field???LMFAO!! What is this 1977?? Stretch the field?? LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
August 2nd, 2009 at 8:55 pm
Umm…should I care what happened to Crabtrees QB? LOL!
August 2nd, 2009 at 8:57 pm
DHB=MR guy,…we are hip to you,..you are still the same troubled person you have always been,…your act is still as boring as ever,…sad.
August 2nd, 2009 at 8:58 pm
Brien, hit me up if you need anything for Cowboys game,..as it looks I think I have one,…probably…gotta run,..hey Dave said hi,..saw him today…later bro.
August 2nd, 2009 at 9:03 pm
My act? Hell this is my first day here, sport. I do however already know YOUR act…. “Raiders are gonna win the West” ” Al Davis is a god” ” Every Raider player is a HOFer” blah, blah, blah.
August 2nd, 2009 at 9:05 pm
javon should help dhb catch the freaking ball.
August 2nd, 2009 at 9:07 pm
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August 2nd, 2009 at 9:15 pm
sup fellas? sure is dark in here. Hey Leroy, smile and light up the room. Man you nigggers got some bright teeth.
August 2nd, 2009 at 9:16 pm
Marques Colston!
Zach Miller is faster than Colston ? Wakeup from your dream!
# 504 Raider Says:
August 2nd, 2009 at 8:09 pm
I’m not as concerned about our receivers as I am of JaMarcus getting them the ball.
Case in point: In less than 5 seconds name 1 Saints WR?
We all know Brees is the QB but the WRs are pretty much unknown outside of New Orleans. Yet the put up numbers because of Brees.
Zach Miller is faster than their best receiver. We just gotta protect the pocket and let JaMarcus keep saying “Chill, we got this.”
August 2nd, 2009 at 9:25 pm
DHB is not going to do much this year either way you look at it. it seems like Louis Murphy is going to be a good ball p-layer. 4.4 speed, son of a preacher, respected leader at Florida, and opted to show up to Jamarcus’ passing camp without a contract: Jerry and the rest of the beats have mentioned how he is noticably ahead of DHB already just from what they have seen.
DHb will most likely be kept to running deep routes, posts, comebacks, and deep outs. By all accounts he will be a bust, but hopefully the dude can just stretch the field and just keep working hard until he can develop.
For the mean time we have JLH, Chaz, and Murphy. i hope Jerry is on to something with regards to Javon Walker. I remeber Javon from 2006 was a good WR who took Namdi to task several times that season…who knows.
August 2nd, 2009 at 9:29 pm
who’s bright idea was it to take away the registration?
August 2nd, 2009 at 9:29 pm
Dirty, who cares ?
August 2nd, 2009 at 9:31 pm
And Al paid DHB $23 million guaranteed? This is why the Raiders will always be a below avg sports franchise. Al needs a GM and needs one fast. Raiders fans deserve better than this. Where’s Ron Wolf?
August 2nd, 2009 at 9:48 pm
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# cantstandtheHATERS Says:
August 2nd, 2009 at 12:39 am
“White’s career got off to a bumpy start. He was known more for dropping passes than catching them before developing into an 1,000-yard receiver in his third season.”
http://www.ajc.com/sports/atlanta-falcons/white-fined-for-105527.html?cxtype=rss_sports_82014
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patience, haters, PATIENCE. stop thinking like an assistent coach in college, you have to have pAtience. think longterm. Roddy White would be playin in canada if some of you were to call the shots in ATL. he’d be gone long time ago too. the “real” fans where hatin on JLH in his first year too and now look what happened in just his second year…served up CROOOWWW. their mouthes is full of it thats why we dont hear shat anymore about JLH.
Walkers situation is the same, as i agree with AZ. he came straight from the hospital bed with fresh stitches so logically i thought this would be the year he shows up anyway. and look, he might just do that. cause imo walkers hands, route-running are still the best on the team. and when he is close to 100% with the knee, he should start. or get on the field a lot.
if not, hes an experienced vet willing to share his knowlege and is gold for guys like DHB and LMurphy in that department.
August 2nd, 2009 at 10:10 pm
Sorry Mistabrown but Colston is slow. He ran 4.7-4.9 coming out of Hofstra. Slow 40 and small school = 7th round pick.
He is Mike Williams without the weight problem. And before you go saying Colston is Pro Bowler and should never be in the same sentence as Mike Williams; Colston is to Brees as Crabtree is to Harrell. In a video game offense.
August 2nd, 2009 at 10:23 pm
Good evening Gents and Talking Monkeys.
Walker may prove me wrong, but I’m ok with that. lol
August 2nd, 2009 at 10:25 pm
I knew Colston was slow, but 4.7 -4.9!!!! Are you sure?
August 2nd, 2009 at 10:39 pm
Yeah no lie on Colston. He is slow. He has the same height/weight frame as Shilens. But Cat has good hands and runs good routes. He also has a bad back which came to surface last year after he got his big re-structured contract. Saints are hoping he is healed but I doubt it with all the money he has now. Played his butt off before the contract re-structure. Maybe just a coincidence though.
August 2nd, 2009 at 10:39 pm
In 2007 Colston had 98 receptions for 1,202 Yards 11 TD’s.
I don’t care how fast he is, those are great numbers.
August 2nd, 2009 at 11:12 pm
jerry please clear out the sickos and the deranged… and please no one interact with the pedophile….
August 2nd, 2009 at 11:21 pm
David White: “If any quarterback looked sharp, it was JaMarcus Russell. Whether correcting a wide receiver or throwing with accuracy, he looked far better today than he did at any point during the offseason”
Good night Nation.
August 2nd, 2009 at 11:33 pm
we’ll see how CrabDiva works in a Jimmy Raye boring run orientated offense.
DHB isn’t just a vertical threat either…..we should expect to see him get the ball on reverses, wr bubble screens and some slant and intermediate routes.
9 routes will be occur when he has one on one coverage and when he will be able to beat his man quite easily.
August 2nd, 2009 at 11:34 pm
CrabDiva aint going to be in the spread offense with ol crappy Jimmy Raye calling plays!
Can CrabDiva run PRO routes on a bad wheel also??
August 3rd, 2009 at 12:00 am
# Raider O Says:
August 2nd, 2009 at 10:25 pm
I knew Colston was slow, but 4.7 -4.9!!!! Are you sure?
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Colston ran 4.5 at the combine. Zack was a 4.8-4.9 guy.
August 3rd, 2009 at 12:01 am
post#59 is what we were saying all offseason when Jerry and other panic raged naysayers were predicting DOOM for a guy just trying to get a comfort level with the stuff he was leaning in the classroom. But Dakota and the others just wouldn’t have it.
A couple of cheap practice session in May and we’re suppose to lose our cool and forget everything we saw on Sunday last year.
As I’ve been saying all offseason by midseason the league will realize what the raiders have at QB.
These anti-Russell overreactors who think everyminute of the guy’s life should be devoted to film study and one minute to relax or see after a family member is an indication of a lack of leadership. Somw say he missed the last day of OTA’s then someone better have died. Smacks of the kind of ignorance that goes on and has been fostered by the media. First off Russell is a human being with real feelings just like Manning and all the rest but for some reason which is not unknown he is not allowed those same margins of error.
He doesn’t fit the mold of what they see as the ideal franchise QB. He’s too big, doesn’t have a six pack and he’s just too black.
August 3rd, 2009 at 12:05 am
Sorry post#57
August 3rd, 2009 at 12:22 am
It’s a great night to be a Raiders fan. Isn’t it?
Jeff Garcia isn’t throwing in practice because he CAN’T throw too much in practice…and he can’t throw all of the throws with any heat on them. He’s not protecting just his old body…he’s keeping that old arm from falling off. Jeff Garcia’s arm is why Danny Southwick is here (again).
If Javon Walker really can do the job…we won’t NEED DHB to play like a veteran this year. And people can stop expecting him to deliver miracles (although, a few would be nice)…and then, maybe he can develop without being labeled a bust before he’s had a real shot to prove himself.
If Walker is healthy…the DHB project has an even better chance of being a HUGE success. With Walker, Schilens and Zach Miller healthy…JaMarcus throws for 3,500+ yards this year.
August 3rd, 2009 at 12:32 am
BHP says:
He doesn’t fit the mold of what they see as the ideal franchise QB. He’s too big, doesn’t have a six pack and he’s just too black.
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BHP — That’s an over-generalized stereotype…it’s exactly what the phrase being “just too black” is. The concept’s wrong, as is pulling the race-card in this instance.
The majority of anti-JaMarcus sentiment in here has nothing to do with his race — at least not overtly. His size, alleged lack of commitment, understanding (or not) of Defenses, etc…are things all QB’s get hammered on when they haven’t proven anything. JaMarcus hasn’t proven anything.
We’ve got enough of the race-baiting trolls (and KK) to throw out the stereotypes.
August 3rd, 2009 at 12:34 am
Go Go Garcia!!!
August 3rd, 2009 at 1:06 am
JaMarcus is the man for the job, BHP. Anybody who doesn’t see his potential is blind (no matter the reason). Same as DHB or any of the young guys — unless they are playing BELOW the skill level they displayed before being signed.
There are guys in here lathering themselves up over Trevor Scott this year…when last year, they proclaimed him a classic Al “bust” — guaranteed to fail miserably. Same thing for Schilens, et al.
If any new kid’s as athletic as the next guy, then he has just as much chance to succeed as that guy does. His pre-NFL training has nearly as much to do with future success as his athletic ability does, too.
DHB vs Crabtree is a perfect comparison…yet DHB’s labeled a bust by the anti-DHB (or anti-Al) crowd, while Crabtree’s being labeled a success even before he can run and cut.
Crabtree may not even be able to understand the Niners’ playbook…and you KNOW Jerry would be telling you all about it if DHB was lost on the practice field. The kid’s smart, and he came as prepared as possible, for the last guy to show.
The DHB pick looks like a winner so far, and if Javon Walker (or Louis Murphy) lights it up in front of him, DHB will push even harder to be a great receiver.
August 3rd, 2009 at 1:07 am
Morning meeting…
It’s a GREAT morning to be a Raiders fan. Isn’t it?
August 3rd, 2009 at 1:31 am
SNB DEFENSE post #65 from 8/2:
Great post…I must read by every Raider fan. I remember watching it and feeling immediate hate and anger towards
Chris Carter and uncle Tom Jackson. Your post reminded me of it again. Thanks.
If Cable want to develop Darius, he should make it mandatory that DHB watches this ESPN segment, “everyday”
before practice and before each game. That will motivate him to his fullest potential.
PS: Great news about Javon Walker and if he’s a comeback player, I will have to say “my bad,” and eat my words, as I bad rapped the dude many times over his Vegas incident.
I now hate Chris Carter and Tom Jackson for blasting the kid before he had his first NFL snap. Go Raiders.
August 3rd, 2009 at 4:35 am
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August 3rd, 2009 at 5:19 am
I have hated tom jackson long before he talked so much smack on dhb, he is a Raider hater and punk.
August 3rd, 2009 at 5:54 am
Good Morning Nation!!!
Javon tearing it up in practice? I thought he couldn’t practice, unless the PUP was removed…Oh well, that could be a good sign…or a deceiving one. Hope for the previous!
August 3rd, 2009 at 6:07 am
If you question Russells work ethic & performance individuals like Priest will throw out the race card. If you challenge the policies of Barb@ck 0bam@ individuals like Priest will throw the race card at you. And then he cries like a 7 year old about the “biased” media against his Oakland Raiders.
Pathetic really..
# HayesDaze#37 Says:
August 3rd, 2009 at 12:32 am
BHP — That’s an over-generalized stereotype…it’s exactly what the phrase being “just too black” is. The concept’s wrong, as is pulling the race-card in this instance.
The majority of anti-JaMarcus sentiment in here has nothing to do with his race — at least not overtly. His size, alleged lack of commitment, understanding (or not) of Defenses, etc…are things all QB’s get hammered on when they haven’t proven anything. JaMarcus hasn’t proven anything.
We’ve got enough of the race-baiting trolls (and KK) to throw out the stereotypes.
August 3rd, 2009 at 6:14 am
If Javon is 100% & his mind is right that will be HUGE for this offense & Russell. It will take some pressure off DHB. It will enable the coaching staff to ease DHB & Murphy along. It will open up the running game if we have a respectable passing attack.
Schilens will also benefit if Walker is on his game. Miller will benefit as well. All you Walker haters & bashers get behind this guy we need him!
August 3rd, 2009 at 6:19 am
Exactly Mistabrown…He did restructure his contruct, but nonetheless, he is still overpaid for not doing squat last year! We do need him. I’ll support him as long as he’s in S&B (unless he does a Moss!)
August 3rd, 2009 at 6:20 am
NATION, what is up?????????
I for one wanted to have walker run out of town. I didnt think he had the heart to play. If he is on the mend, and dedicated to helping this team win, I am all for that. I have bad mouthed him all day long but I will be willing to admit I was wrong, eat crow, whatever if that translates to NATION wins. I will be behind this go 100%.
As a famous person said….You play to win the game.
August 3rd, 2009 at 6:23 am
Rise and fn shine nation!!! Its time to hit baby! Javon I’ve been clowning ya for a while, after the news yesterday I wanna say please make me eat my words come season opener!
August 3rd, 2009 at 6:26 am
Good morning Nation!
10 more days ’til the first pre-season game baby!
August 3rd, 2009 at 6:27 am
Thec what’s up bro! I agree whole heartedly with ur statement, what matters is wins, and if he’s commited im down! And I take back all what I said about him if that’s the case
August 3rd, 2009 at 6:31 am
DirtyBathWater, How u doing Bro?. I am in my office,
on a 24oz coffee pump as I dont know what…..
10 days til preseason,…WTF……
I cant wait to hear todays news as they put on the pads. I am looking forward to hearing about Mike Mitchell. Hopefully he doesnt knock anyone out.
August 3rd, 2009 at 6:32 am
GOOD MONDAY NATION!!!!!!
HENDERSON TO THE PROBOWL!!!!1
JAVON COME BACK PLAYER OF THE YEAR!!!!
CHAZ “The Catch” more catches than any other Raider!!!!!!
PLAYOFFBOUND!!!!!!!!!!
its time fellas!!!! in six short days we will see the first action of the 09/10 season andI for one cant wait!!!!!
YHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!
Whats up AM crew???
Hurry it up with the coffe Gabby we aint got all morning!!!!!!!!!!
August 3rd, 2009 at 6:35 am
I cant wait to hear todays news as they put on the pads. I am looking forward to hearing about Mike Mitchell. Hopefully he doesnt knock anyone out.
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Hopefully in pads he is a little better he was being beat up on by a 4th string RB it sounds like?!?!?! but untill he lays the hammer and strikes fear theses guys will beat him his game isnt finnesse its physical An I cant wait either brother he should be a BANG!!!!
PLAYOFFBOUND!!!!
August 3rd, 2009 at 6:39 am
Oaklifer, What was the issue with Mitchell being beaten by 4th string RB????? Did it have anything to do with them not being able to hit, or did he just look bad?
August 3rd, 2009 at 6:46 am
Yeah Thec I know I feel the same was. As I read around the league with all the injuries I hope we can make out and start healthy and mike don’t kill anyone out there
August 3rd, 2009 at 6:47 am
Were Southwick’s passes what made Javon look like an athlete again? The great ones do elevate the games of their teammates.
August 3rd, 2009 at 6:49 am
Man, I am not hatin on Southwick but come on man…
ROFLMAO
August 3rd, 2009 at 6:50 am
Mornin’ Oaklifer,Thec, DirtyBathWater,RaiderMight,
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When it comes to Walker, I’ve been one of the biggest skeptics since the moment he signed during free agency last year. Now I’m curious and cautiously optimistic.
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Even Jerry is “optimistic”???!?!?! Wow, does that mean we should be “curiously” optimistic? This would be huge in DHB’s development, Raiders reputaion, Al’s reputation, and the season. I laughed when Denver picked up Javon & said he’ll help undermine that team! Now if we can get ONE good year outta him for all the cash Al has “made it rain” on him I’d be happy. I can only hope Javon will have a good year after giving the rest of us “golden showers”!!!
August 3rd, 2009 at 6:52 am
Lets just hope Mitchell isnt on coffe or any other
stimulates…..Legal stimulates, last thing we need
is one of our recievers to get the hammer, and be out for a period and miss the rest of camp.
Good news on JRUSS doing better in camp. whats impressive is he is being more of a vocal leader.
I totaly appreciate that. Glad to see Louis Murphy
giving it out also.
August 3rd, 2009 at 6:53 am
LMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!! Southwick!!!! Man I can’t believe this , man I haven’t laughed thid hard in a looong time! As a long time raider fan I have dranked every flavor of the kool aid there is every year, year after year, but this new flavor on Danny boy Southwick is just too much to swallow LMFAO!!!!!!!!!
August 3rd, 2009 at 6:56 am
TW, What up Bro??????
Walker = Unexpected Xtra……
Him doing well, and helping the NATION put up wins would be all cream, as i along with most had him written off as “bad debt”. If it is true then the
competition bar just got tougher…
August 3rd, 2009 at 6:57 am
Post 88, ROFLMFAO……..Priceless.
August 3rd, 2009 at 6:57 am
Lol Raidertw that’s funny man but trrue, btw good morning brotha
August 3rd, 2009 at 6:58 am
Hey, Thec, back for the season, huh? Good to hear you again. I hope Al pays him only enough money to make it sprinkle!!!
August 3rd, 2009 at 7:03 am
TW,
I never really left, I lurk and read almost every post. I wasnt chiming in because most of the post had turned into arguments, what NAtion member hates who etc. I am not going anywhere though by and large
the fans in here seem to be good people, minus the discharger fans, trolls, and the
“professional Bloggers”.
Spot on, Al gave that man a lot of dough, he should play the next couple without pay. Glad he restructured down.
August 3rd, 2009 at 7:03 am
Thec Says:
August 3rd, 2009 at 6:49 am
Man, I am not hatin on Southwick but come on man…
ROFLMAO
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LOL. OK, what seems more believable: Southwick is a phenom, or Javon is healthy and performing?
August 3rd, 2009 at 7:04 am
I am going to get some work done now, but will be lurkin you guys give the trolls all they can handle, or not……
Only one NATION exists in the whole universe…..
August 3rd, 2009 at 7:06 am
Post 94, Like i said i am not hatin on Danny…..
Furthermore i do want to beleive Walker is all good.
As a fan of the NATION i need some good news. We fans have been putting up with losing for a while. Most of us are not familiar this tradition, hopefully it is this season. Moreover as for Danny if he can upseat JRUSS, and become the starter more power to him….
August 3rd, 2009 at 7:07 am
Javon
August 3rd, 2009 at 7:08 am
i have got a meeting to prep for u guys give em hell on earth.
One NATION…….. RAIDER NATION
August 3rd, 2009 at 7:18 am
Later Thec have a good day bro!
August 3rd, 2009 at 7:20 am
Thec Says:
August 3rd, 2009 at 6:39 am
Oaklifer, What was the issue with Mitchell being beaten by 4th string RB????? Did it have anything to do with them not being able to hit, or did he just look bad?
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Think it was the whole not being able to hit…..its like I was saying I think his game is more physical than finese he might not be able to play flag fotball but he will knock the pi$$ outta you if you comin over the middle!!!!
August 3rd, 2009 at 7:21 am
Thec Says:
August 3rd, 2009 at 7:03 am
TW,
I am not going anywhere though by and large
the fans in here seem to be good people, minus the …
“professional Bloggers”.
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Are you referring to those of us who are gettin paid while we comment here? I’ve always thought this crowd was far more palatable than the PM set…
August 3rd, 2009 at 7:22 am
Thanks for getting rid of the Baby Raper Jerry. That was a little wierd.
August 3rd, 2009 at 7:22 am
OAK, I am hoping that we will see that from Mitchell…
Have a good day Nation! Need to take care of some stuff this morning prior to anyone getting in…
August 3rd, 2009 at 7:24 am
Southwick is a true competiter and will stick somewhere but come on bro you got to catch up he was gone as of last wendsday i think!!!
LONG LIVE DANNY!!!!!!
hope he lands in minny or ne!
PLAYOFFBOUND!!!!!!!!!!!!
August 3rd, 2009 at 7:24 am
DHB having problems catching ball this early is nothing..Cliff Branch his first tow years couldn’t catch a cold…Patience…
August 3rd, 2009 at 7:30 am
MM was reportedly beat by TE converted FB Marcel Resse , im just waititng to hear what goes down when the guys can hit and not be inhibited
August 3rd, 2009 at 7:42 am
I wonder what’s the word on our other draft picks Meyers, and Slade Norris. I hope he can shake something………with the news of treavor scott droping back in coverage can be one of 2 things. Either he’s a phenom and can actually play standing up, or we are too weak on the strong side that we want to try something to see how it works. I sure hope its the first one about Scott
August 3rd, 2009 at 7:42 am
9-7!
JAVON WALKER COMEBACK PLAYER OF THE YEAR!
You can say you heard it from AZ first!
DRINK IT!
Oh, and I told you so
August 3rd, 2009 at 7:44 am
WR”S
1. chaz
2. javon
3. DHB
4. JLH
5. Watkins
DRINK IT DOWN!
YUM YUM 9-7!
J.W. CBPOTY!
August 3rd, 2009 at 7:47 am
Yeah Az ur the first to say it, ur words are holding up so far.. We will see down the line
August 3rd, 2009 at 7:49 am
Patty-cake practices almost over?
August 3rd, 2009 at 7:50 am
If Jevon is back 100% then who is going to stop McFadden, Zach, (Chaz, JLH, Murphy or DHB) and Jevon with Bush as the single back?
Nobody.
If Jevon is a factor and JaMarcus has ONE go to guy who he can count on and builds a chemistry with him, JRuss is going to be outstanding with all the weapons, period.
August 3rd, 2009 at 7:51 am
And the problems continue for the Broncos: http://myespn.go.com/blogs/afcwest/0-3-2538/Rookie-holdouts-extend-misery-in-Denver.html
Thank you little Kiffin!
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Rookie holdouts extend misery in Denverfrom ESPN.com – AFC West – Blog
Posted by ESPN.com’s Bill Williamson
The last thing the Denver Broncos need is another disaster.
It’s been a turbulent offseason in Denver as the team transitions to the Josh McDaniels era. It’s been a rocky road.
First, there was the Jay Cutler fiasco, which resulted in his trade to Chicago. Later in the offseason, star receiver Brandon Marshall, unhappy with his contract, asked to be traded. The Broncos need some good fortune. They don’t need any more problems or distractions.
Namely, they don’t need any rookie holdouts. But that’s what they are dealing with.
Denver’s two first-round picks, running back Knowshon Moreno and defensive end/linebacker Robert Ayers (who was part of the Cutler trade) are holding out and have not been at camp. The Denver rookies were due a week ago. Moreno and Ayers are missing their fourth day of training camp with the full squad.
Denver needs to sign both Moreno and Ayers very soon. Both players are expected to have major roles on the team. If they miss anymore time, they may have difficulty getting ready for the start of the regular season. Denver begins the season Sept. 13 at Cincinnati.
A contract negotiation can change in five minutes, but so far, progress has been slow.
Again, this is the last thing Denver needs. The Broncos have had too many distractions in 2009.
August 3rd, 2009 at 7:54 am
So far Mitchell can’t cover and DHB can’t catch…and Walker is the bright spot of training camp?
Yikes…put the pads on and play some football and hopefully those things will change!
August 3rd, 2009 at 7:55 am
Sheeeeiiiii, if Walker is 100% Russell will have 3 sure-handed targets in Miller, Schilens, and Walker! Can’t wait! Show the bay what you got Javon, I’ve been on your bandwagon since you got here, and I’ve been catching crap for a year about it!
9-7!
JAVON WALKER COMEBACK PLAYER OF THE YEAR!
YOU HEARD IT FROM AZ!
DRINK IT!
August 3rd, 2009 at 7:56 am
Dakota…how do you like my cool aid?
August 3rd, 2009 at 7:58 am
How come I read that DHB dropped a pass or two, and did great on the crossing routs somewhere else, but when this clown writes about DHB, all he wants to do is rip on the guy? Really, Jerry, are these people just making things up, or are you just going out of your way to trash the guy? I know DHB is struggling, but not as bad as you like to make it out to be. At least that what I get from other non-biased sources that is.
August 3rd, 2009 at 8:01 am
Raider Nation be cool man, be cool!
The season is just starting don’t loose it. DHB will get together he most likely just thinking to much of the routes assignments right now, new QBs etc.
Hopefully, Walker keeps it together and has a good year. Most of the play will come from the vets working the rookies in the game anyway. Chaz, Walker, JLH working Murphy and DHB into the line up does not sound bad. Zach is going to be your most consistant catcher this year.
August 3rd, 2009 at 8:01 am
Too much cool aid is bad for you!
August 3rd, 2009 at 8:03 am
AZ Raider Says:
August 3rd, 2009 at 7:44 am
WR”S
1. chaz
2. javon
3. DHB
4. JLH
5. Watkins
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What about Murphy?
August 3rd, 2009 at 8:06 am
Na, Dakota it’s sugar free and packed with vitamins! Keeps the body right!
9-7!
WALKER, COMEBACK PLAYER OF THE YEAR!
YOU HEARD IT FROM AZ!
DRINK UP!
August 3rd, 2009 at 8:08 am
Oh, geez good lookin out Danny!
1. CHAZ
2. WALKER
3. DHB
4. MURPHY
5. JLH
6. WATKINS???????????????
August 3rd, 2009 at 8:13 am
OK guys, who will be the most surprising cut when they announce the 53?
Some possibilities: Sands, Fargas, Garcia, Huff, JRich, Williams
August 3rd, 2009 at 8:14 am
Sugar free kool aid? Yuck!
When is the first preseason game? I can’t wait to see for myself what Mitchell and DHB look like on the field…
August 3rd, 2009 at 8:15 am
Mornin Dakota, AZ, Oak, Hwnrdr, Thec, TW, NATION!
No eva this mornin?
Gonna get crakin today.
Jmac looks good, Garcia sittin out to “rest” his arm???
DHB startin his jorney. Sands is in the best shape he has been since he has been a RAIDER.
OO is on the field.
DMC doesn’t have turff toe…. yet
August 3rd, 2009 at 8:15 am
Can’t CUT Fargas! He’s not a guy to break a big one or score a bunch of TD’s for you, but he can get the tough yards between the 20’s in 2-3rd and shorts.
Sam Williams would be my choice…
August 3rd, 2009 at 8:18 am
DMAC and Bush will have to learn to block as good as Fargas before he’s cut.
RB”S:
1. Darren McFadden
2. Michael Bush
3. Justin Fargas
4. Louis Rankin
August 3rd, 2009 at 8:19 am
123 Southwick, Khalif Barnes!
August 3rd, 2009 at 8:20 am
Watched the Texans game again yesterday. I was laughing my azz off at how Fargas can stand up a starting DT and push him back into the 2nd level LOL…. All our backs are hard as hell LOL!
9-7!
YOU KNOW WHO IS GONNA BE WHAT!
YOU KNOW WHO SAID IT FIRST!
YOU KNOW WHAT YOUR DRINKIN!
August 3rd, 2009 at 8:23 am
Some possibilities: Sands, Fargas, Garcia, Huff, JRich, Williams
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Williams could be end of his Scholarship!!!
Garcia : No way it will either be Frye or Gradowski gone!
Doubt Sands will go not till next year!!
Fargas LOL no way we could at least get a 5th rounder to waste for this kid plus he restructred he stays…for now
jrich: He may be one of the only true DE on our roster behind ellis who him self isnt even a “pure” DE
I think it will be a WR, QB, and a line backer no big names thou Cable and Davis believe in the talent we have hoipefully it works out for them
Gary russel will be the biggest name we drop imho
August 3rd, 2009 at 8:25 am
Dirty Raccoon Says:
August 3rd, 2009 at 8:19 am
123 Southwick, Khalif Barnes!
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He will stay he might not like it as he said but he could be our starting RT……
August 3rd, 2009 at 8:26 am
– Hiram Eugene spent some time with the second-team defense, with Michael Huff working with the first team at free safety.
- the Raiders second team defense was apparently coming up short of that at one point in the eyes of defensive coordinator John Marshall.
“You guys are going to stay second group for the rest of your (bleeping) life,” Marshall said. “You’re going through the motions. Grow the hell up.”
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LOL. the Marshall Plan will make a difference fellas.
GET READY !!!
August 3rd, 2009 at 8:29 am
kirkmorrison52twitter .
@ddockett all good. same to you bro. I know its hot as hell in Scottsdale. I came out there a couple weeks ago it was 115. I had to leave
about 8 hours ago from web in reply to ddockett
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Damn, Kirk was in my hood, and didnt even stop buy? Dang Kirk, hatin on AZ! LOL
August 3rd, 2009 at 8:29 am
Oaklifer Says:
August 3rd, 2009 at 8:25 am
Dirty Raccoon Says:
August 3rd, 2009 at 8:19 am
123 Southwick, Khalif Barnes!
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He will stay he might not like it as he said but he could be our starting RT……
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Only if he bulks up. Danny is about 210 now….
August 3rd, 2009 at 8:32 am
hmmmmmmmm we are missing the usuall suspects???!?!?!
Double R
D-LF
LMN
BSJ
NOMO
wonder if the economy finaly hit the blogging world??
OHH and I ve been meaing to ask…… Hey Thec are we pros when we gettin paid to blog or was that more of a “persona” somepeople have????
“minus the discharger fans, trolls, and the
“professional Bloggers”.
Spot on, Al gave that man a lot of dough, he should play the next couple without pay. Glad he restructured down.”~Thec
August 3rd, 2009 at 8:33 am
Will John Bowie make the cut?
August 3rd, 2009 at 8:33 am
Jay Richardson has been a spectator much of the time. Ryan Boschetti, signed as a defensive tackle, was getting more work at end.
– Stanford Routt and Michael Huff got a lot of first-team work at the expense of Chris Johnson and Hiram Eugene.
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go Marshall!
August 3rd, 2009 at 8:34 am
DO NOT HATE ON MY BOY SOUTHWICK Says:
August 3rd, 2009 at 8:29 am
Oaklifer Says:
August 3rd, 2009 at 8:25 am
Dirty Raccoon Says:
August 3rd, 2009 at 8:19 am
123 Southwick, Khalif Barnes!
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He will stay he might not like it as he said but he could be our starting RT……
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Only if he bulks up. Danny is about 210 now….
LMAO he could do it I could see it now Jruss @ LT Southwick @ RT Garcia @ QB we would be unstoppable!!!
LOL
I was talking bout Barnes!!!!!!!
August 3rd, 2009 at 8:36 am
Oaklifer Says:
August 3rd, 2009 at 8:23 am
Gary russel will be the biggest name we drop imho
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I would be shocked if no bigger name player was cut. Usually someone gets the Biekert treatment.
August 3rd, 2009 at 8:37 am
As the play unfolded, Tollner said, “There’s the window right there! . . . C’mon guys, let’s wake up.’’
– On the next play, good news.
“Good Marcel (Reece), we like that matchup!’’
OK, the bad news. He was matched against second-round draft pick Mike Mitchell.
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Mike Mitchell is getting abused in coverage by Marcel Reece? I hope he’s not the Week 1 starter against Antonio Gates!
August 3rd, 2009 at 8:40 am
clearly, maddenraider has discovered a new low…
August 3rd, 2009 at 8:41 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
August 3rd, 2009 at 8:37 am
“Mike Mitchell is getting abused in coverage by Marcel Reece? I hope he’s not the Week 1 starter against Antonio Gates!”
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Morning Double R,
Some guys arnt cut out to play flag football if he had SMACKED Reece or someone else in the mouth I garuntee he would not be abused but the one handing out the abuse as soon as he suits it upo today whole new ball game gys wnt be running righ by him IMHO. HE WILL LAY THE WOOD!!!!!!! AND STRIKE FEAR!!!
PLAYOFFBOUND!!!!!!!!
looks like I lost my koolaid job to AZ!!!
Keep up the good work AZ I;’ll pass the torch…..but you cant waer my suit!!!!
“
August 3rd, 2009 at 8:41 am
We’re pretty anxious to put the pads on and start banging heads,”
- Ricky Brown
August 3rd, 2009 at 8:42 am
Oaklifer Says:
August 3rd, 2009 at 8:32 am
hmmmmmmmm we are missing the usuall suspects???!?!?!
Double R
D-LF
LMN
BSJ
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Um, BSJ is in the house Oaklifer. Did you think there were TWO Southwick freaks out here?
Since there is no registration, I thought I go slummin and use a temp name.
August 3rd, 2009 at 8:43 am
DO NOT HATE ON MY BOY SOUTHWICK Says:
August 3rd, 2009 at 8:36 am
Oaklifer Says:
August 3rd, 2009 at 8:23 am
Gary russel will be the biggest name we drop imho
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I would be shocked if no bigger name player was cut. Usually someone gets the Biekert treatment.
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John Wade, Sam Williams
August 3rd, 2009 at 8:44 am
so … Khalif won’t play RT?
the question becomes, do we pay him over $1 million to be Mario’s backup LT or just cut him and go with a cheaper player with less baggage and more motivation?
August 3rd, 2009 at 8:46 am
DO NOT HATE ON MY BOY SOUTHWICK Says:
August 3rd, 2009 at 8:36 am
Oaklifer Says:
August 3rd, 2009 at 8:23 am
Gary russel will be the biggest name we drop imho
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I would be shocked if no bigger name player was cut. Usually someone gets the Biekert treatment.
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Russell is a comodity right now and Al knows letting him go to Denver or KC would suck…but he might be the biggest name we let go….Sam Williams has made a name only here in the O tho…and I dnt think cutting any FA we brought in constiutes as the “Biekert” treatment. I think cuts will be made but we just dnt have any flare look at me guys to cut I think Gary Russell, And Garcia are the two biggest names that could be gone but Garcia will be here backing up jruss thats why he didnt take any reps coaches know he can be good they need to know which one of the other slouches to cut!!! So I geuss maybe Sam Williams but still not a big name!
August 3rd, 2009 at 8:46 am
Mornin RR.
August 3rd, 2009 at 8:48 am
Barnes still not down with the idea of playing RT? Thank god we didn’t draft E. Monroe then huh?
August 3rd, 2009 at 8:48 am
good morning Dirty, OAKlifer, AZ, BSJ …
August 3rd, 2009 at 8:50 am
Since there is no registration, I thought I go slummin and use a temp name.
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While the parents are away the kids will play!!!!!!!!!
I love it BSJ…errr hmmmhu! DNHOMBS!!!
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Fix his attitude and tell him he is now a RT or ship his ass out we dnt need him un-gelling our line wiuth pissing and moaning he is only slight above average at best anyways he was cut and looking for work…. Not the cream of the crop!!1 and if you cant sacerfice for the good of the team and the good of you r development then hit the road we dnt need ya!!!!!!!
SHAPE UP OR SHIP OUT!!!!!!!!!!11 play on the Fing right side and help us to dominance!!!!!111
PLAYOFFBOUND!!!!
August 3rd, 2009 at 8:50 am
good morning Dakota, CJ, Slash, Might …
August 3rd, 2009 at 8:52 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
August 3rd, 2009 at 8:44 am
so … Khalif won’t play RT?
the question becomes, do we pay him over $1 million to be Mario’s backup LT or just cut him and go with a cheaper player with less baggage and more motivation?
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If he can’t play LT better than Henderson, what makes antone think he can play RT any better? He has not done in in the pros. James Martin was the higest rated RT in the 2007 draft. 6′8″ 320 #’s!!
Mark Wilson has paid his dues also, time for him to get in the mix, or walk the plank.
Erick Pears is a good “fit”, but light in the pants(300)
Marcus Johnson ???? NOT.
August 3rd, 2009 at 8:52 am
Barnes hasn’t played RT since college.
I’d be surprised if he beat out Green, Pears, McQuistan, Wilson or even Marten for the starting RT job!
August 3rd, 2009 at 8:53 am
Has anyone bothered to think that DHB is dropping passes not because he is the second coming of Rickey Dudley, but because he is thinking too much which a lot of rookies do. I played WR in college and catching the ball is all about concentration, if you are thinking about something else then you will probably drop the ball. He is probably just not comfortable yet. Many people underestimate the learning curve for young players. It is a very hard thing to get over. DHB has a ton of potential and that is what you draft. You draft potential and it is up to the COACH and the players to develop. The COACH being the contributing factor. It is the coaches job to make him become his best. Look at the productive positions year in and year out on teams. You can see that it is the same coaches. You do not draft a less talented “sure” player or one that doesn’t fit what you do. Draft position is irrelevant to. Brady was drafted in the 6th round but if someone had taken him in the 1st in that draft that team would have “clearly overdrafted him”. Jerry Rice was thought to have been taken way too soon, he only turned out to be the greatest WR of all time. I’m not saying DHB will be great but to call him a bust before a game has ever been played or because he was supposedly drafted too high is rediculous. He would have been considered a steal if he were drafted in the second or third round and nothing would be made of all the negative hype.
August 3rd, 2009 at 8:54 am
Dirty: Pears = light in the pants?
LOL!
Marcus Johnson is a RG in Oakland, right?
August 3rd, 2009 at 8:57 am
I don’t think sam williams will be cut, we are kind thin at LB and then he’s pretty good on Special teams Sammy Parker is gone and Bowie, they are out!
August 3rd, 2009 at 9:00 am
Oaklifer says:Russell is a comodity right now and Al knows letting him go to Denver or KC would suck…but he might be the biggest name we let go….
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JR won’t go, look how long Al held onto Marc Wilson. Al won’t admit JR is a bust until a year after everyone else calls it. JR WILL NOT BE A BUST. Elway looked more like a bust his first 3 yrs.
August 3rd, 2009 at 9:01 am
good morning DBW.
Agreed. Samie Parker & John Bowie are outta here
Sam Williams is a solid ST player, but how many LB’s can we afford to keep?
Morrison, Howard, Brown, Alston, Norris, Ekejiuba, Condo, etc
I think David Nixon is heading for the practice squad.
August 3rd, 2009 at 9:02 am
Just the other day on fox radio I heard an NFL tackle say it wasn’t that difficult of a transition from LT to RT. Barnes simply doesn’t want to do it because he seems to think it will hurt his marketability in next year’s free agency period.
Guess what Barnes, a POS LT, which you are, will make less money on the market than a solid right tackle, which you might become if you give it a chance, not to mention the fact that such a move might make you a team player in the eyes of some GMs…
August 3rd, 2009 at 9:03 am
Thomas Warrick Says:
August 3rd, 2009 at 8:53 am
Has anyone bothered to think that DHB is dropping passes not because he is the second coming of Rickey Dudley, but because he is thinking too much which a lot of rookies do. I played WR in college and catching the ball is all about concentration, if you are thinking about something else then you will probably drop the ball. He is probably just not comfortable yet. Many people underestimate the learning curve for young players. It is a very hard thing to get over. DHB has a ton of potential and that is what you draft. You draft potential and it is up to the COACH and the players to develop. The COACH being the contributing factor. It is the coaches job to make him become his best. Look at the productive positions year in and year out on teams. You can see that it is the same coaches. You do not draft a less talented “sure” player or one that doesn’t fit what you do. Draft position is irrelevant to. Brady was drafted in the 6th round but if someone had taken him in the 1st in that draft that team would have “clearly overdrafted him”. Jerry Rice was thought to have been taken way too soon, he only turned out to be the greatest WR of all time. I’m not saying DHB will be great but to call him a bust before a game has ever been played or because he was supposedly drafted too high is rediculous. He would have been considered a steal if he were drafted in the second or third round and nothing would be made of all the negative hype.
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Been saying that from the begining! Right after the draft I have loaded this blog up with comments about how raw DHB is and he’s gonna be a 2-3 year project. But DAMN, with the his size, extreme speed, and vertical jump, this kid is gonna be a beast in the NFL!
9-7!
JAVON WALKER COMEBACK PLAYER OF THE YEAR!
YOU ALWAYS HEAR IT FROM AZ FIRST!
2011 DARRIUS HEYWARD-BEY TO THE PROBOWL!
DRINK IT!
August 3rd, 2009 at 9:04 am
Week 1 on MNF will be Russell’s 17th NFL start.
a bit too premature for all the “bust” talk, isn’t it?
Give Russell 2009 & 2010 and then we’ll review the QB position, if need be.
August 3rd, 2009 at 9:05 am
True Warrwick, that’s why im not too worried about DHB, his hands may not be as natural as others but he can work on his craft im not sure of hearing anyone calling him a bust, whoever does is just plain silly. All of our questions will be answered soon !
August 3rd, 2009 at 9:06 am
RaiderTW Says:
August 3rd, 2009 at 9:00 am
Oaklifer says:Russell is a comodity right now and Al knows letting him go to Denver or KC would suck…but he might be the biggest name we let go….
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JR won’t go, look how long Al held onto Marc Wilson. Al won’t admit JR is a bust until a year after everyone else calls it. JR WILL NOT BE A BUST. Elway looked more like a bust his first 3 yrs.
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Bro TW,
Come on man We were talking bout Gary Russel super bowl champ brusing RB….I am on board with JaMarcus and would never type blashphomy like that on here!!! He!! I even wanted to draft the kid # 1 overall I didnt care who else was in the draft my lil bro was playing B-ball in LSU Jamarcus junior year I fell in love with his uncanny ability!!1 Just wanted to clear that up!!!
IN JaMARCUS I BELIEVE AND SUPPORT!!!!!!!
PLAYOFFBOUND!!!!
August 3rd, 2009 at 9:07 am
I talked up Javon Walker last week and everybody threw it in my face …
now Jerry Mac talks him up and nobody says boo?
Javon Walker (if healthy) will be our #1 WR next year – not Chaz Schilens or Johnnie Lee Higgins.
Heyward-Bey will start opposite him if he use stick’um
August 3rd, 2009 at 9:09 am
Even though I am a garcia hater , I have to admit he is a much better backup than walters should jruss get hurt. As long as its only in practice will let the drops go dhb.
August 3rd, 2009 at 9:10 am
“Heyward-Bey will start opposite him if he use stick’um”
nahhhhhh it will be Javon and Chaz Starting with JLH and DHB splitting time JLH will still be used on ST and DHB will still be getting up to speed. we will utilize much unkown product to the leauge Murphy as well!
August 3rd, 2009 at 9:12 am
RR morning brotha what’s happening!? Yeah those guys are out for sure. You know I forgot all about Nixon, someone has to shine in camp
August 3rd, 2009 at 9:12 am
Chaz is da man RR! Excuse me, Darren McFadden is the man, but Schilens is pretty damn cool! My boy outta SD! Chaz will be the #1 IMO until Hey-Bey catches on next season.
1. Chaz or Walker
2. Walker or Chaz
3. DHB
4. JLH
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Write it down!
WALKER COMEBACK PLAYER OF THE YEAR!
You can say you heard it from AZ!
DRINK IT!
9-7!
August 3rd, 2009 at 9:12 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
August 3rd, 2009 at 8:54 am
Dirty: Pears = light in the pants?
LOL!
Marcus Johnson is a RG in Oakland, right?
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Yeah I think they look at him as a gaurd, but he has played RT in college, and he has the size, he “looks” the part. I would love to see McQuistan play RT, but Cable says he is a “left” side guy. Hmm a “left” side guy, so is cable saying there are left, and right side guys?? Is Barnes a right side guy? I think he is a one year LT back up/ ins policy.
August 3rd, 2009 at 9:14 am
OAKlifer: Danny Southwick (aka the intern) was throwing passes to DHB on the sideline. Al Davis & Sanjay Lal were over there giving him a pep talk. He was facing Nnamdi Asomugha all weekend …
the kid wasn’t drafted 7th overall to be a project and start in Year 3. He will play.
Question is: will he play well?
August 3rd, 2009 at 9:17 am
Is Barnes a right side guy? I think he is a one year LT back up/ ins policy.
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I think so too Dirty.
We need to see “super” Mario do it alone on an island for 16 games, before we start calling him the next Orlado Pace or Jonathan Ogden
August 3rd, 2009 at 9:17 am
AZ,
Did you get Addicted to my koolaid, hope it dsnt go to far I have found a few spots to get help but for now we will just keep a close watch and drink as much as we can so you dnt get sooo sick with it!!! I LOVE IT!!!!
Write it down!
WALKER COMEBACK PLAYER OF THE YEAR!
You can say you heard it from AZ!
DRINK IT!
9-7!
PLAYOFFBOUND!!!!!!!!!
AZ & OAK Special blend!!!!!!
you can only borrow the suite and please no stains the deposit is outrageous!!!
August 3rd, 2009 at 9:20 am
JR goes as our OL goes. The better they do the better he will do. Notice last season when Henderson finally started, how JR did better. When you have your LT(Harris)jumping offsides every 4 plays or acting like a turnstile, how are you as a QB supposed to make reads or accurate throws? You can’t cause you’re always lookin over your shoulder worrying about that 250-300lb guy about to stick his helmet in your back. If our OL can gel and Henderson can play like the last 3 games or better, JR will actually have the chance to show off his talent. We have the running backs we need, and receivers are improving and getting health. LT and OL gelling is gonna be a big part of JR’s success, just can’t see him bein a bust if we give him protection and competent wide outs. We KNOW we have the RB’s to help.
August 3rd, 2009 at 9:20 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
August 3rd, 2009 at 9:14 am
OAKlifer: Danny Southwick (aka the intern) was throwing passes to DHB on the sideline. Al Davis & Sanjay Lal were over there giving him a pep talk. He was facing Nnamdi Asomugha all weekend …
the kid wasn’t drafted 7th overall to be a project and start in Year 3. He will play.
Question is: will he play well?
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LOL im lost!!!!!!!! 7th as in round??????
I thought, Question is: Where will he play?
Did I fall asleep and start trashing Danny???? Damn this narclepsy!!!
August 3rd, 2009 at 9:21 am
Nick Miller, cut
Schmitt, cut
Watkins, cut
Bayes, cut
Bowie, cut
Boyd, cut
D. Brown, cut
D Bryant, PS
Compas, PS
Foshi, cut
Franklin, cut
Gray, PS
Horton, cut
Lawton, cut
M. Johnson, cut
Norris, PS
Nixon, PS
O’Neill, PS
August 3rd, 2009 at 9:21 am
LOL OAK! You know how we do!
DRINK IT!
August 3rd, 2009 at 9:22 am
good morning NMF, woj …
nice points/posts fellers!
August 3rd, 2009 at 9:23 am
Oaklifer, you’re right, I watched every game Elway played & the first 2 years he looked terrible because he had the same problems the Raiders have this year. His receivers were; Vance(can’t dance)Johnson & Mark Jackson. 2 decades later do any of you remeber these guys?
August 3rd, 2009 at 9:23 am
Mornin RR, the season cometh and I can’t wait.
August 3rd, 2009 at 9:24 am
Double R,
My bad I caught up!!!!!
“JLH and DHB splitting time JLH will still be used on ST and DHB will still be getting up to speed. we will utilize much unkown product to the leauge Murphy as well!”
That was kinda my point as well he will have to be up to speed in order to be on the other side and with Chaz and JLH it wont be year 3 but it wont be week one either…I say we will break him in slow and football is like basket ball who gives a Sheet who starts its who wants to finish thats the guy we will be looking for!!!! He will be Starting but its a work in progress not 3 yr progress but it is a work.
August 3rd, 2009 at 9:24 am
AZ Raider Says:
LOL OAK! You know how we do!
DRINK IT!
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Smell it, smell it, now TAKE IT!
August 3rd, 2009 at 9:25 am
OAKlifer: you were as lost in post #175 as the team was with Lane Kiffin as HC!
I was talking about DHB. 7th overall draft pick
Danny Southwick is still with the team though, as an intern … the Raiders are waiting for a roster spot to open up. they can’t have 81 players in training camp
August 3rd, 2009 at 9:26 am
Hey raiderrockstar long time no 8:><:8
August 3rd, 2009 at 9:27 am
OAKlifer: you were as lost in post #175 as the team was with Lane Kiffin as HC!
LMFAO!!!!!!!!PRICELESS
my bad!!1 it is monday afterall!!!!
but I caught up!!!
PLAYOFFBOUND!!!!!!!!
August 3rd, 2009 at 9:27 am
Heyward-Bey will use stick’um and go to the Pro Bowl as a rookie!
Kool-Aid splash brought to you in part by RaiderRockstar “if you ain’t got speed, you ain’t got a roster spot!”
August 3rd, 2009 at 9:29 am
Danny Southwick is still with the team though, as an intern … the Raiders are waiting for a roster spot to open up. they can’t have 81 players in training camp
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Where is this info coming form BSJ???????????
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DID ANYONE MAKE IT OUT TO BAYDAY??????????????? It played all day on like mtv2 or something but it was a huge smash sure some of you saw it driving around Oakland and such???????
August 3rd, 2009 at 9:29 am
whats up Trey?
Trey Wingo in the hizouse !!!!
how’s Mark Schlereth these days? I hear his son made it to the big league, eh? MLB is boring to watch. haven’t really kept up to speed on that
August 3rd, 2009 at 9:30 am
Hey-Bey PROBOWL YEAR 3!
9-7!
YA’LL KNOW WHAT JAVON’S GONNA DO!
DRINK UP NATION!
YOU KNOW WHO SAID IT!
August 3rd, 2009 at 9:30 am
August 3rd, 2009 at 9:31 am
Where is this info coming form BSJ???????????
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No. from Jerry Mac on friday:
– Recently-waived quarterback Danny Southwick is still around, but not in uniform. He holds a clipboard much of the time, but for a short period of time he was throwing passes to Chaz Schilens and Heyward-Bey. He classified himself as an “intern.’’
August 3rd, 2009 at 9:32 am
I emoji icons
August 3rd, 2009 at 9:33 am
Lol stick’um
August 3rd, 2009 at 9:33 am
how’s Mark Schlereth these days?
THE LIFE DONK?!?!?!?!??!?!?!?!
Who gives a rats arse bout tHis homer!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Double R, you and wingo homeboys?????
August 3rd, 2009 at 9:34 am
DHB should be catching 500 balls a day outside of practice. And if Sanjay Lal wants to keep his job, he better make sure Southwick and DHB are roomates. I’d have southwick throwing him the ball until his arm fell off.
August 3rd, 2009 at 9:35 am
Trey: you calling me a square?
I thought we were cool?!? hahaha
I’m glad they let the trolls back in. this place was getting dull. missed you bro
August 3rd, 2009 at 9:35 am
Marks doing just fine rr just bought him a years supply of extenze
August 3rd, 2009 at 9:36 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
August 3rd, 2009 at 9:31 am
Where is this info coming form BSJ???????????
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No. from Jerry Mac on friday:
– Recently-waived quarterback Danny Southwick is still around, but not in uniform. He holds a clipboard much of the time, but for a short period of time he was throwing passes to Chaz Schilens and Heyward-Bey. He classified himself as an “intern.’’
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Wow thanks bro didnt even catch that it was a hectic weekend wedding and family in townmust been friday after I signed off!!! Well now this is music to my ears!!!!! D.N.H.O.M.B.S!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
thanks brother good reporting!!!
August 3rd, 2009 at 9:37 am
jhill Says:
August 3rd, 2009 at 9:34 am
DHB should be catching 500 balls a day outside of practice. And if Sanjay Lal wants to keep his job, he better make sure Southwick and DHB are roomates. I’d have southwick throwing him the ball until his arm fell off.
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I just hope the Raiders don’t force D-HB on to the field if he is not ready. Don’t worry about draft status, public opinion, Crabtree or salary…play the kid if he shines in training camp…if not…play the best players whether it be JLH, Murphy or Walker.
Forcing into the lineup would be my concern at this point
August 3rd, 2009 at 9:37 am
RR, hope you’re right about Javon, if we can get the guy that played 2006 or even close to it, it will be huge for our offense. If he is healthy I see him and Chaz starting with JLH getting a few and them workin Murphy and DHB in where ever possible. McF is gonna get his chance everywhere on the field they can stick him, starting to look like we might have a few good receiving options.
August 3rd, 2009 at 9:37 am
treys predictions:
1. Jamarcus Russell spreads the ball to his recievers this year!
2. Oaklifer spreads his legs
August 3rd, 2009 at 9:38 am
TW,
Cmon!! Lets go Disco!! lol
Good morning Gents, Nation.
August 3rd, 2009 at 9:38 am
The news of Javon’s progress is encouraging. Sucks for Holland or Watkins though.
Chaz
Walker
DHB
JLH
Murphy
I think we can all agree that these 5 are locks.
August 3rd, 2009 at 9:39 am
OAKlifer: Trey and I go way back
way back to his days at Baylor. he was a DB back then
he didn’t have “Raider speed” though. Al Davis never gave him a second thought
August 3rd, 2009 at 9:40 am
good morning Raider O, Jhill, S&B …
August 3rd, 2009 at 9:41 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
August 3rd, 2009 at 9:17 am
Is Barnes a right side guy? I think he is a one year LT back up/ ins policy.
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I think so too Dirty.
We need to see “super” Mario do it alone on an island for 16 games, before we start calling him the next Orlado Pace or Jonathan Ogden
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Whoa I don’t think he will ever be Pace, nor Ogden. Those cats are BORN not made. They are kinda like part Cape Buffalo, Mountain Lion, Coastal Brown Bear, with the mentality of a Black Mouth Curr.
August 3rd, 2009 at 9:41 am
treys predictions:
1. Jamarcus Russell spreads the ball to his recievers this year!
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thanks for the love on BSPN trey. you’re a class act and a true professional
the Raiders are back!
August 3rd, 2009 at 9:42 am
Sorry I disagree DHB don’t need no passes from Southwick he needs to get used to catching passes from the human JUGGs machine that’s Russell, cause all he does is throw lazers. And that goes for all our recievers, look at the drops last year they need to get used to jruss’s passes
August 3rd, 2009 at 9:42 am
DHB is going to be on the field if for no other reason, the threat that the team keeps talking about. Even if he drops a few, like TO does, the team wants that “deep threat” that has to keep the safeties back.
August 3rd, 2009 at 9:43 am
way back to his days at Baylor. he was a DB back then
LMAO!!!!11
Sounds like he’s a DB (douche bag) Now!!!!
Never even seen the duder in here and he just asked me on a date in post 202……..kinda wierd!!!!
August 3rd, 2009 at 9:43 am
If you click on my name you can go to my personal site all are welcomed with open arms
August 3rd, 2009 at 9:43 am
Good morning
August 3rd, 2009 at 9:44 am
Poole: Raiders coach tackles all those alibis and excuses By Monte Poole
“I’ve never been through anything like this,” running back Darren McFadden said after morning practice. “But I can see why he wanted to do this. So many times, one play makes the difference. A guy misses a block here or there, it changes the whole game.”
“This is something we’ve taken to with open arms,” linebacker Kirk Morrison said. “We’re going back to basics. It’s all about studying and preparation.”
Learning to count diminishes the probability of having too many men on the field. Practicing the alphabet provides a basis for better communication. Being drilled on lining up and filling gaps leaves it to the player to know where he is supposed to be. Practice enough snaps to the quarterback, and there should be fewer fumbled exchanges.
“I’ve always thought I would, when I became a head coach, that’s how I would run camp,” Cable said.
Sounds simple, like something that should be done every year. It is simple and it is done, to some degree, every year.
But this is ALL the Raiders did during the first FOUR days of camp.
And it can’t hurt. Excuses have been a constant with this team since its last Super Bowl appearance. As the losses have mounted, they have run the gamut. The Raiders in recent years are defined in part by losing and the excuses behind the losses.
“We want to clean it up,” Cable said. “We’re not going to win until we become very efficient. And that’s discipline and knowing exactly how and what they’re asking (players) to do.”
August 3rd, 2009 at 9:45 am
Whoa I don’t think he will ever be Pace, nor Ogden.
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I’m sorry Dirty. that comparison was meant with some sarcasm. Tons of Raider fans in here think Mario Henderson will be a Pro Bowler for the reasons below. Reasons I think are sort of comical
-better than Kwame Harris
-starting ahead of Khalif Barnes in camp
-played well in 3 games last year (with help)
-fired his agent and hooked up with Drew Rosenhaus
-we didn’t draft o-line in April
August 3rd, 2009 at 9:45 am
whats the haps S&B morning brother!
August 3rd, 2009 at 9:45 am
I couldn’t understand why we kept Condo & Sam Williams in 2007, and again in 2008. Will someone explain the question and the question is???
Condo = Why do we keep a long snapper, who is only an average special teams player? What is so freaking hard about learning how to snap long. Why can’t Satele, Morris or Wade learn to “long snap” and we keep the best two at Center. Thus, we create another spot for someone who can contribute more?
Sam Williams = When healthy he an average backer and special teams player, but nothing special. He not a play make that can change the flow of any game, he’s no big loss if cut. However, he must know where Al buried the body because he remains on scholarship, year after year?
August 3rd, 2009 at 9:46 am
RR,
LMAO @ 186
August 3rd, 2009 at 9:46 am
Jhill, drinkin my kool-aid too? I like it!
Chaz and Walker #’s 1 and 2!!!
WALKER COMEBACK PLAYER OF THE YEAR!
DHB TO PROBOWL IN YEAR 3!
DRINK UP NATION!
August 3rd, 2009 at 9:48 am
jhill Says:
August 3rd, 2009 at 9:42 am
DHB is going to be on the field if for no other reason, the threat that the team keeps talking about. Even if he drops a few, like TO does, the team wants that “deep threat” that has to keep the safeties back.
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The deep threat is all fine and good. But there have been plenty of fast guys to play the game and not all have made the impact that was expected.
D-HB still has plenty of time. But he can’t be the guy to bring in for 5 plays and run deep…he has to be more of a complete receiver to get the respect the Raiders are looking for. He has to be able to get the short stuff too…otherwise there will be scant respect for the deep stuff. Its still early…but I say play the best guys
Also, Murphy and JLH can get deep too. Let’s see what happens going forward with contact and all.
August 3rd, 2009 at 9:48 am
Condo = Why do we keep a long snapper, who is only an average special teams player? What is so freaking hard about learning how to snap long. Why can’t Satele, Morris or Wade learn to “long snap” and we keep the best two at Center. Thus, we create another spot for someone who can contribute more?
******************************************just ask the cowboys, and the giants how important these little things are!!!!!!
August 3rd, 2009 at 9:49 am
I never said the recievers would catch the ball
–like oaklifer does–
August 3rd, 2009 at 9:51 am
My good buddy Hellen Keller said dhb was a reach at 7
August 3rd, 2009 at 9:52 am
#24: The Botched Snap
The Situation: Trailing by 24 late in the 3rd, the 49ers mounted an all-out assault to take a 39-38 lead. In the waning seconds, the Giants botched their FG snap, and holder Matt Allen threw a desperation pass towards pass-eligible lineman Rich Seubert, who was thrown to the ground by a Niners’ defender. The refs failed to whistle pass interference and the botched snap gave the Niners the 2nd largest postseason comeback victory in NFL history.
kinda important….
August 3rd, 2009 at 9:53 am
DHB a reach at #7 but not #20… Who cares, a first rounder is a first rounder.
PROBOWL YEAR 3 Darrius!
You can say you heard it from AZ first!
DRINK IT!
August 3rd, 2009 at 9:54 am
hey trey speaking of helen how are your wife and my kids?????
wow this guy really likes me cant keep my name out his mouth!!!!
HATERS MAKE ME RISE every time you say my name someone new hears it keep talking!!!! out side tha blog to it helps thanks for the love bro!!!!
August 3rd, 2009 at 9:55 am
LOL. Helen Keller is a fox!
pass her my business card Trey …
August 3rd, 2009 at 9:55 am
OAK,
I remember that game!!
” look at the score-board!”
August 3rd, 2009 at 9:56 am
4 or 5 plays a game?
You’re trippin! He’s going to get 5 or 6 balls thrown his way each game.
I think you are going to see him in all the 3 WR sets, and some 2 WR sets.
He’s going to have a good 5 or 6 basic routes depending on the coverage.
JMO!
August 3rd, 2009 at 9:58 am
Btw(by the way) thanx Jerry for getting rid of the registration I could never remember my password even after the little rhyme I made for it anyone care to read it?
August 3rd, 2009 at 9:58 am
Bring on the padded workouts….. I wanna hit something.
August 3rd, 2009 at 9:58 am
Long snapping is an art, most good\great long snappers have been doin it since high school. It’s not somethin you pick up in a season or too. It’s a very important skill because in the kicking game every fraction of a second counts. The better the snap to a punter the more time he has to get a good foot on the ball. Think about if Lechler had to jump or move left or right for snaps, think he’d be in pro bowl? Just think how much Jano’s accuracy would go down if the holder didn’t get smooth snaps and timing was off?
August 3rd, 2009 at 9:59 am
It’s a good day to be a Raider fan guys… In a few hours we’re gonna hear about Mitchell’s first hit in pads! LOL, I pitty the foo who’s at the recieving end of that one! Don’t hurt Zach Mike! We need his azz!
9-7!
blah blah!
Ya’ll know the drill…
DRINK IT!
August 3rd, 2009 at 9:59 am
I agree Jhill.
unless Heyward-Bey is injured, he will start
replacing him with Javon Walker would be like replacing Russell with Garcia!
replacing him with Schilens or Higgins would be like replacing Russell with Danny Southwick!
August 3rd, 2009 at 10:00 am
Raiderwoj Says:
August 3rd, 2009 at 9:58 am
Long snapping is an art, most good\great long snappers have been doin it since high school. It’s not somethin you pick up in a season or too. It’s a very important skill because in the kicking game every fraction of a second counts. The better the snap to a punter the more time he has to get a good foot on the ball. Think about if Lechler had to jump or move left or right for snaps, think he’d be in pro bowl? Just think how much Jano’s accuracy would go down if the holder didn’t get smooth snaps and timing was off?
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Hell ya he’d still be a Probowler…. Lech is THAT far ahead of the curve IMO.
August 3rd, 2009 at 10:00 am
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August 3rd, 2009 at 10:01 am
Moved the furniture and left the plunger in the toilet ………….. How did they punish Helen Keller.
August 3rd, 2009 at 10:01 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
August 3rd, 2009 at 9:45 am
Whoa I don’t think he will ever be Pace, nor Ogden.
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I’m sorry Dirty. that comparison was meant with some sarcasm. Tons of Raider fans in here think Mario Henderson will be a Pro Bowler for the reasons below. Reasons I think are sort of comical
-better than Kwame Harris
-starting ahead of Khalif Barnes in camp
-played well in 3 games last year (with help)
-fired his agent and hooked up with Drew Rosenhaus
-we didn’t draft o-line in April
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Yep.
August 3rd, 2009 at 10:02 am
Hey Lynn from stott if you want to hit something check out my site by clicking my name in bold
August 3rd, 2009 at 10:03 am
Sorry, can’t see him as a probowler if he ain’t getting good snaps, would he still be a good punter-of course. But if he ain’t getting the ball cleanly, do you really think he can kick like he does when he gets a good snap, cause you’re essentially saying the snap would make no difference.
August 3rd, 2009 at 10:05 am
Treyrockstar
I’ll bring my bat.
August 3rd, 2009 at 10:05 am
RR,
Schilens is da man though bro…. I mean Darren’s the man, but Chaz is hard as f*ck!
Chaz will start before DHB does this year… I just don’t see anyone out performing Chaz in camp. He’ll be at the top of the heap unless Javon is….
COMBACK PLAYER OF THE YEAR!
9-7!
You heard it from AZ first!
DRINK IT NATION!
August 3rd, 2009 at 10:05 am
Flash-forward to the 2010 Training Camp:
Morrison: “I think taking the first few days of training camp off last year really hurt us. I like what the new coach is doing this year; getting us up to speed in OTAs and getting us right into hitting at training camp! I am excited for our chances this year!”
August 3rd, 2009 at 10:06 am
RR,
Chaz will be a great player. This kid can play, and I have watched him play. I attend SDSU.
Chaz has a great Attitude, Great hands, and great size & speed.
August 3rd, 2009 at 10:07 am
Anybody have the nflnetwork? I’m thinking of going over there after seeing that Adrian Peterson commercial wooooooooweeeeee man Now only if they can get Jason smith to do the same thing but slower I’d sign any offer they’d give me
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@Lynn- no comment
August 3rd, 2009 at 10:07 am
Lechler will punch a longsnaper or any lineman, right in the neck if he don’t get the ball to him. Just ask Sands! He feared for his life so he had act first on the plane LOL!
Lechler’s a beast!
August 3rd, 2009 at 10:08 am
Dakota Says:
August 3rd, 2009 at 10:05 am
Flash-forward to the 2010 Training Camp:
Morrison: “I think taking the first few days of training camp off last year really hurt us. I like what the new coach is doing this year; getting us up to speed in OTAs and getting us right into hitting at training camp! I am excited for our chances this year!”
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Flash-forward to the 2010 Training Camp:
Morrison: “I think taking the first few days of training camp off last year really hurt us. I like what the new coach Jon Gruden is doing this year; getting us up to speed in OTAs and getting us right into hitting at training camp! I am excited for our chances this year!”
August 3rd, 2009 at 10:09 am
Ouch Dakota….that one hurt. Let’s see what happens over the next couple of weeks before quoting what Morrison might say in 2010
August 3rd, 2009 at 10:09 am
The Bengals lost to Denver, 24-23, on a snowy Sunday when Brad St. Louis’s long snap on an extra point in the final minute sailed wide of holder Kyle Larson, preventing Shayne Graham from attempting to make his 159th consecutive conversion.
Its important bro I think you see….every jumped on this Question!!
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THIS IS SICK AND WRONG IN SO MANY WAYS!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
Dakota Says:
August 3rd, 2009 at 10:05 am
Flash-forward to the 2010 Training Camp:
Morrison: “I think taking the first few days of training camp off last year really hurt us. I like what the new coach is doing this year; getting us up to speed in OTAs and getting us right into hitting at training camp! I am excited for our chances this year!”
August 3rd, 2009 at 10:10 am
After opening camp with four straight two-a-day practices without contact, the Raiders will practice in pads Monday for the first time. Asomugha expects practice to get heated.
“It will. I guarantee it will,” Asomugha said after Sunday morning’s workout. “Intensity is good, though, and aggressiveness is good, and maybe there will be a fight or two. Maybe we’ll get the juices flowing that way, but it will be good.”
Cable said he expects rookie safety Mike Mitchell to push for a starting job. “Has to,” Cable said. “Competition starts tomorrow. It’s on. And everyone’s got to fight for a job. … So I expect him to push everyone and anyone who’s at his position.” … Defensive tackle Ryan Boschetti, a free-agent pickup, has been getting some work at defensive end. “He’s done that in his career,” Cable said. … Cable said that the loser of the battle at left tackle between current starter Mario Henderson and challenger Khalif Barnes might move to right tackle, where Cornell Green is working with the first unit.
August 3rd, 2009 at 10:10 am
Schilens is da… I mean, McFadden is da man!
August 3rd, 2009 at 10:11 am
I’m telling you:
I think Chaz is the best WR we have, and will be for the next decade. IMO
GoAztecs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
August 3rd, 2009 at 10:11 am
Instead of “I’m in”
“It’s ON!”
August 3rd, 2009 at 10:12 am
Hellen kellers business card:
phone: uhejhgyjhgyikjv
email:duhkogbjfdc
your welcome rr
August 3rd, 2009 at 10:13 am
Fuck that. Can Zach Miller and Dhb sit down and have a long conversation about what it takes to catch the football.
i know what is happening. DHB is just having trouble. because of jarockets fast balls.
yaaaaahhhh… thats the reason…….
IM SIPPIN ON THAT KOOL AID!!!!!!
August 3rd, 2009 at 10:17 am
thank you!!! trey you are now my second favorite troll….unless bobby is ur other identity then its like 1 and 1a!!
August 3rd, 2009 at 10:17 am
AZ,
Chaz is a Beast!!
TW,
Mike Mitchell will be the starter, by week 5/6 if not week 1!!
I can’t wait to watch him hit a discharger Mon night.
I hate the Dischargers and their fans!!
August 3rd, 2009 at 10:17 am
whoa. f bomb. didn’t expect that!
mods: where you at?
August 3rd, 2009 at 10:18 am
Im still skeptical of walker. Raiders will keep 6 wr
August 3rd, 2009 at 10:19 am
Cable said he expects rookie safety Mike Mitchell to push for a starting job. “Has to,” Cable said. “Competition starts tomorrow. It’s on. And everyone’s got to fight for a job.
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I’m pretty sure everybody saw this coming. Did anybody think Tyvon Branch (ST gunner) was just going to be handed the starting SS job? based on what? 1 INT against the Chiefs? haha. come on now
thanks for the info TW!
August 3rd, 2009 at 10:20 am
While the mods are away the kidz will play…..
Well ill hide mine while trey and raper are in here but you get the point!!!!!!
August 3rd, 2009 at 10:20 am
Nothing wrong wit da kool-aid Des! Sugar free and packed with vitamins! Keeps the body right!
yatta yatta!
DRINK IT!
August 3rd, 2009 at 10:21 am
be back later. lunch time
August 3rd, 2009 at 10:21 am
Brien the General 510
is it could it be in the air its a bird its a plane no its BRIEN!!!!!!!!! long time no read?!?!?!
August 3rd, 2009 at 10:22 am
DHB will be fine, He’s not expected to lead the team in catches or be a possession receiver. He is going to clear out the secondary and give Russell a few shots down the field. He also will run some reverses and make teams account for him with his speed.
August 3rd, 2009 at 10:22 am
Chaz the best wr? 7th round? Curry was also a late rounder and looked what happend to him–reliable hands at first than there was the 2008 season. But at least he’s catching balls in practice though.
August 3rd, 2009 at 10:23 am
We need a name for Mike. A name that will strike fear in our enemies.
What should we call him?
August 3rd, 2009 at 10:24 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
August 3rd, 2009 at 10:19 am
Cable said he expects rookie safety Mike Mitchell to push for a starting job. “Has to,” Cable said. “Competition starts tomorrow. It’s on. And everyone’s got to fight for a job.
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I’m pretty sure everybody saw this coming. Did anybody think Tyvon Branch (ST gunner) was just going to be handed the starting SS job? based on what? 1 INT against the Chiefs? haha. come on now
thanks for the info TW!
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I doubt Al Davis drafted Branch in the 4th round with expectation that he would just be a Special Teams Gunner. Who drafts players strictly for special teams. Branch was brought in here to compete for a starting job. The long-term vision is Branch and Mitchell manning those safety spots…UNLESS…Michael Huff is able to realize his potential…and he better do it quickly
August 3rd, 2009 at 10:24 am
One of the Mitchell bros
August 3rd, 2009 at 10:24 am
Brien? Brienwhite kok? How u been buddy?
August 3rd, 2009 at 10:26 am
C u later rr have fun eating lunch don’t let oaklifer eat your meat
August 3rd, 2009 at 10:30 am
Mike Mitchell Nickname? How bout mikey or the mitchinator? M&m? Mike the mauler? Mike “will tackle you” Mitchell? The m word? Mitchell will hitchull?
August 3rd, 2009 at 10:30 am
We need a name for Mike. A name that will strike fear in our enemies.
What should we call him?
A. The guy who shot Al Davis
August 3rd, 2009 at 10:31 am
No More Huff!!!!!!!!
I’m ready for Change, show me Mitchell & Branch!
Let’s see what they can do!
We can still put the shadow on the field as a nickel DB to shadow the TE!
August 3rd, 2009 at 10:33 am
Mike “The Distroyer” Mitchell
“Mike Missle”
“Mad Mike”
“Michael Manson”
“The Hitman”
August 3rd, 2009 at 10:34 am
The m word
Wow bob didnt think you would say anything I liked other than my name ” thanks for the support” but I like this one!!!!
The M Word!!!!
August 3rd, 2009 at 10:34 am
Na “O”, we need huff to step up and get some picks for us!
Huff = FS
Hitman = SS
DRINK IT!
August 3rd, 2009 at 10:35 am
hmmmmmmm……are you there
August 3rd, 2009 at 10:36 am
Time for treys poll:
WHICH OF JAMARCUS’ RECIEVERS WILL HAVE THE MOST RECEPTIONS THIS YEAR?
1. Darrius heyward-bey
2. Chaz schilens
3. Jlh
4. Javon walker
5. The telephone when placing an order for some food
August 3rd, 2009 at 10:36 am
Who is this punk in here saying he is me TREY im here for you bring it on!!!!!
August 3rd, 2009 at 10:37 am
AZ,
We already used:
Hitman
Assassin
Judge
Molester
August 3rd, 2009 at 10:37 am
Treyrockstar Says:
August 3rd, 2009 at 10:36 am
Time for treys poll:
WHICH OF JAMARCUS’ RECIEVERS WILL HAVE THE MOST RECEPTIONS THIS YEAR?
1. Darrius heyward-bey
2. Chaz schilens
3. Jlh
4. Javon walker
5. The telephone when placing an order for some food
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Chaz!
August 3rd, 2009 at 10:37 am
BREAKING NEWS:
ESPM’s John Clayton reports:
“Just hours after witnessing veteran WR Javon Walker’s training camp workout in which he jumped high over blocking pads, did some hard cutting and even hopped on one leg, Raider’s owner Al Davis renegotiated Walker’s contract, reinstating the remaining 5 years of his original contact with Oakland, including a new $18 million dollar signing bonus. The Raiders were so impressed with the 2 minute workout that they have cut first round selection Darrius Hayward-Bey to give Walker more time on the field.”
August 3rd, 2009 at 10:38 am
I like “Hitman” or “Mad Mike”.
August 3rd, 2009 at 10:38 am
Mike ( I’m gonna make those guys at ESPN eat their words) Mitchell. That means you Chris Carter and Tom Jackson
August 3rd, 2009 at 10:38 am
Jerry registration is once again needed here to make this place relevent. And why you are at get rid of Dakota and Koolkell. the jokes of this board…
August 3rd, 2009 at 10:39 am
Who is the new troll trying to take my identity there is only one BOB and it’s me here in the flesh!!! BobertsIV and trey and brein betterall reconize the real madman is back!!!!
August 3rd, 2009 at 10:40 am
Mike Kimbo Slice Mitchell?
August 3rd, 2009 at 10:40 am
Boberts? WTF bring it on bytch
August 3rd, 2009 at 10:41 am
JAVON WALKER COMEBACK PLAYER OF THE YEAR!
DHB TO PROBOWL BY YEAR 3!
RUSSELL THROWS FOR 3000+ YARDS!
ZACH MILLER FIRST PROBOWL SELECTION!
DMAC and BUSH COMBINE FOR 2300 RUSHING YARDS!
SCHILENS STARTS ALL 16 GAMES 1000 RECIEVING YARDS!
9-7!
You can say you heard it from AZ first!
DRINK IT!
August 3rd, 2009 at 10:41 am
AZ,
The Shadow had 1 INT in 3 season!!!!!
1!!!!!!
Our 2 starting LBs avg more than that per season!!!!!!
August 3rd, 2009 at 10:42 am
wow we got a Hindu rag head sand cooon and a Dirtynigggercoon
August 3rd, 2009 at 10:43 am
Mike M. + Anonymous
August 3rd, 2009 at 10:43 am
WHAT WTF?!?!?!?!?! I am the real Narco PUNKS who in here wants to challenge that I see Sflifer wannabe turdwingo, the fake Narco, and the rest you guys are shills frauds and phonyes we will see who still reamians!!!!! I AM THE ONE AND ONLY!!!!
August 3rd, 2009 at 10:43 am
Dakota, we at espn have morty do are raiders reporting, nice try though
August 3rd, 2009 at 10:44 am
Mike M. = Anonymous
Sorry, fat fingers!
August 3rd, 2009 at 10:44 am
I know “O”, but we need him to step up this year. 7th overall pick, he HAS to become SOMTHING!
August 3rd, 2009 at 10:44 am
AZ,
Our Fat sorry DT ( Sands) has as many INTs as Huff!!!!
1 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
August 3rd, 2009 at 10:45 am
I got another 1 mike “don’t say hike” Mitchell
August 3rd, 2009 at 10:46 am
WOW….there is some one prtending to be me then calling me out saying Im pretending to be him OK you punks have nothing better to do I ve been on this blog longer than most you punks!!!!! BObertsIV is a fraud!!!!!!!!!!! and El dirty id going down come to tha hood and talk like that puke!!!!!!!!!1
August 3rd, 2009 at 10:47 am
O, Sands lost 10 lbs. now he is Svelte.
August 3rd, 2009 at 10:47 am
AZ,
He is SOMETHNG! He is the Shadow King!!
And I,
I’m the Lizard King, and I can do anything!!
lol
August 3rd, 2009 at 10:47 am
This is great – all of my little friends are visiting the blog today! I’m especially excited to see my old pal Brian back in, that silly little tease has been away for far too long!
And look, it’s that old fool Oakcrapper, high school friend of Krappy and part of the loose bowel awesome old dude team (LBAODT)! I bet you dummies are ready for some sweet training camp action, huh?
And even more exciting is the appearance of the Lady Raccoon, who has found time out from her job at the salon to cut and paste a lame article onto the blog. You go girl!
This is going to be the best Raider season ever!
August 3rd, 2009 at 10:48 am
pills are kickin in this is too much……this used to be a respectable blog!!!! of to the beach narco and cold beer makes me wish I could surf!!!
August 3rd, 2009 at 10:49 am
how bout’ Micha”El MITCH”ell?
EL MITCH!!! EL DRRTY MITCH!!!
August 3rd, 2009 at 10:49 am
Raccoon,
LMAO
August 3rd, 2009 at 10:50 am
Bob, bobster or whatever you tend to call yourself, just 2 words 4 u “lick em”
beeechem hey!,
does anyone know what happend to Brien white kok?
August 3rd, 2009 at 10:51 am
beecham,
one of my ol time greats me and you are the only ones left buddy!!!! we are the last ones standing all the other’a are FAKES PHONEY FRAUD PIUKES!!! kinda like Jamarcus!!!!
August 3rd, 2009 at 10:51 am
El Dirty, Not sure what you mean. Why don’t you come to Sout Sac, and we can discuss? I’ll bring my video camera so I can show the NATION.
August 3rd, 2009 at 10:52 am
Sorry to bring it up again but did any1 see that Adrian peterson commercial yet?
August 3rd, 2009 at 10:53 am
is there any one here is actually is not gay besides me? what is up with all the gay crap? has this become a gay raider fan site? bring back rgistration and clean out the closet gays…Jerry
August 3rd, 2009 at 10:54 am
joke board
August 3rd, 2009 at 10:54 am
listen up treywingnutfag,
you and narco better run along we all know you beechnut, brien, MR, and the rest of the welfare group share a computer in ur moms basement!!!! never thought Id miss SF lifer and his mongosse wannabe but these new guys really suck!!!!!
August 3rd, 2009 at 10:55 am
When did CNN turn into BET? It isn’t even black history month and they have nothing on but black whiner stories every night.
August 3rd, 2009 at 10:56 am
on a bright note; The “A’s” wont be making the post season which means the horrid dirt infield will be gane a few weeks after the season opens. seriously that is one ugly field when that thing is there. looks like something out of “leatherheads”
August 3rd, 2009 at 10:57 am
This place is going downhill fast…
August 3rd, 2009 at 10:57 am
Dakota Says:
August 3rd, 2009 at 10:40 am
Mike Kimbo Slice Mitchell?
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LOL
August 3rd, 2009 at 10:58 am
never thought Id miss SF lifer and his mongosse wannabe
***
hey Bobby. missed you too bro. have a nice weekend?
What do you think about Danny Southwick staying on board as an intern?
whats the scoop from your “insider” janitor boyfriend?
August 3rd, 2009 at 10:58 am
WOW I had left for just a few and come back into this Jerry what has happened??????
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is there any one here is actually is not gay besides me? what is up with all the gay crap? has this become a gay raider fan site? bring back rgistration and clean out the closet gays…Jerry
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Im here, O is cool, Double R is on lunch, AZ is akoolaid pimp, lyn, raccon, Dakota…
there are a few of us left!!!
PLAYOFFBOUND!!!!!
August 3rd, 2009 at 11:00 am
NFL Network now a part of comcast digital package, wow.
August 3rd, 2009 at 11:00 am
Dakota Says:
August 3rd, 2009 at 10:57 am
This place is going downhill fast…
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Dnt leave we need to stand our ground and over throw the shills!!!!!!!!!!!
August 3rd, 2009 at 11:03 am
raider rockrtar, yes this site is full of talking monkey’s, most the world just calls them Nigggers!
August 3rd, 2009 at 11:04 am
bydavidwhite .
@bradymoser One reason we sound a lot alike is we’re watching the same thing confined to the same area. I’ll try to mix it up more.
about 12 hours ago from web in reply to bradymoser
DHB drops and Walker rocks. Raiders camp notes on the blog. http://bit.ly/QgiAK ?
about 16 hours ago from web Three horns. Next up: pads and hitting at 3:30 p.m. Monday.
about 17 hours ago from web If nothing else, that
surgically repaired knee looks good to go, no matter where he got it done.
about 17 hours ago from web Seriously, Javon is
hopping over 3 pads on the ground then going up for the catch from a trainer … And catching passes.
about 17 hours ago from web Doing more 2 minute drills
with Cable calling out results. Got to the 1 and scored.
about 17 hours ago from web
Javon Walker looks awful good running routes, catching balls on the side in rehab.
about 17 hours ago from mobile web In contrast,
JaMarcus looked pretty sharp with the deep ball.
about 18 hours ago from mobile web
They go right back to DHB for a catch over the middle. FYI, groans from staff when DHB dropped. They notice.
about 18 hours ago from mobile web
Tons of deep throws so far. Al Davis is surely enjoying the view … ugh, DHB drops in front of Al.
about 18 hours ago from mobile web
Russell deep to DHB for a perfectly timed timing pass. Makes up for a few earlier drops.
about 18 hours ago from mobile web
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Looks like David is keeping up his Twitter page better than Jerry today and yesterday…
August 3rd, 2009 at 11:04 am
anybody notice how #36 isn’t taken on the Raiders roster?
Mike Mitchell will change from #34 to #36 and his nickname will be “Gibson” after training camp …
August 3rd, 2009 at 11:05 am
Hey wannabe,
Wow never thought we would be talkin realtime but damn these fools are worse than I am!!!! Who wants to pretend to be someone else?!?!?!
Weekend was good popped afew extra had some friends in town!!
Not sure yet bout Eastwick he is a J3w or a wittness or something aint he????
Keep laughing bout my insider as soon as you hear bout the trade you will SHEET ur draws!!!!!
August 3rd, 2009 at 11:05 am
You hate gay people or something? I bet if you saw that Adrian Peterson commercial you would end up hating yourself
August 3rd, 2009 at 11:06 am
Oakcrapper, it’s cool that you’re keeping track of the young bloggers and their schedules, but really you should be much more worried about the giant dump you just took in your pants.
I mean, how in the world can you worry about the playoffs when your adult diapers are about to burst? Krappy is one foolish old goat, but at least he has the good sense to have his wife hose him down in the backyard when he has his “accidents”.
August 3rd, 2009 at 11:07 am
IronMike
Ironman Mike
F^ck Ditka!~
August 3rd, 2009 at 11:07 am
lol 323 thats the truth
August 3rd, 2009 at 11:08 am
Kool-aid pimp? I like that sh*t Oak!
9-7!
JAVON WALKER COMEBACK PLAYER OF THE YEAR!
You can say you heard it from AZ first!
DRINK IT!
August 3rd, 2009 at 11:09 am
AZ Raider Says:
August 3rd, 2009 at 10:37 am
Treyrockstar Says:
August 3rd, 2009 at 10:36 am
Time for treys poll:
WHICH OF JAMARCUS’ RECIEVERS WILL HAVE THE MOST RECEPTIONS THIS YEAR?
1. Darrius heyward-bey
2. Chaz schilens
3. Jlh
4. Javon walker
5. The telephone when placing an order for some food
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5 FFFOOOOOOOOOOOOOODDDDDDDDD
hint hint suprise cut ha ha lol
August 3rd, 2009 at 11:09 am
-JaMarcus looked pretty sharp with the deep ball
-Russell deep to DHB for a perfectly timed timing pass.
-They go right back to DHB for a catch over the middle.
don’t think Heyward-Bey will be featured in this offense? come on guys. The Kool-Aid for Higgins & Schilens must be spiked!
August 3rd, 2009 at 11:09 am
R A I D E R M E C C A
X I I
Is proud to welcome
KENNY “THE SNAKE” STABLER
to the “Party with the Legends”,
held Saturday, September 12th
at the Oakland Coliseum’s East Side Club.
Entrance to the Party is included in
the Raider Mecca XII 3-day package,
as well as one included autograph!
August 3rd, 2009 at 11:10 am
El dirty. Your a no good racist son of a bitch
August 3rd, 2009 at 11:11 am
What about a nick-name for DHB?
My vote: Darrius HeyICantCatch-Bey
August 3rd, 2009 at 11:12 am
Not sure yet bout Eastwick he is a J3w or a wittness or something aint he????
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Bobby: we’re waiting for clarification from BSJ, Danny’s uncle … please allow 15-30 business days
August 3rd, 2009 at 11:12 am
Schilens is da man…. I mean Darren is the man!
But Schilens will get a #1 or #2 slot with Walker opposite and DHB and JLH splitting reps for the 3rd spot.
DRINK IT
August 3rd, 2009 at 11:13 am
DHB couldn’t catch a cold lmao great pick AL
August 3rd, 2009 at 11:13 am
Dakota,
My vote: Darrius Hey Bey-Bey
the redzone will now be called “the Bey area”
August 3rd, 2009 at 11:14 am
Bob, you ever beat off in the shower?
August 3rd, 2009 at 11:15 am
http://www.napavalleyregister.com/articles/2009/08/03/sports/doc4a7670c291c5b677071396.txt
TIME TO HIT
August 3rd, 2009 at 11:15 am
Eeeaaahh! I like that RR!
The Bey-area! That’s dope!
August 3rd, 2009 at 11:16 am
Kassim Osgood’s hair is yellow. Well, maybe it’s gold. Corn? Saffron?
The Chargers’ special teams ace/wannabe wide receiver took one look at teammate Shawne Merriman’s striking blue Mohawk as the team opened training camp and figured one-upmanship was necessary. Whoever mixed the dye probably had to turn away to avoid cornea burn.
Osgood has gone blond, really, really blond, and don’t even bother asking if he’s having more fun.
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Let these p^ssies color their hair they’ll look good sitting on the bench in their street clothes! lol
August 3rd, 2009 at 11:16 am
DHB spotted wearing a t-shirt that says “I heart stick’um” near Al Davis on the sideline during water break
about 18 hours ago from mobile web
-David White (twitter)
August 3rd, 2009 at 11:17 am
Darrius strahan?
Treys bold prediction #3: seabass will have the BEST fg % in league history after DHB let’s him practice using his gap
August 3rd, 2009 at 11:17 am
who said he can’t catch? Have any of you morons been to camp or seen him play. Thats what thought. save the dhb crap until we at least have a chance to see it for ourselves. you are taking the word of the biased media.
August 3rd, 2009 at 11:18 am
el dirty…
Can somebody help me out?!?!?!?!??!?
this has to be a shill I remember dirty on here and he was never this bad….Son you must not be from the TOWN you talkin like that I hope that aint you cuz!
and you better hope we dnt eat @ the same rib joint I will gut you!!!! WATCH UR MOUTH PUNK!!!!!
Happy days!!!!!
August 3rd, 2009 at 11:19 am
Chad Johnson is Ocho Cinco
Heyward-Bey is “doce”
August 3rd, 2009 at 11:20 am
How bout just BOOM?
Madden would love it.
August 3rd, 2009 at 11:21 am
Oaklifer
August 3rd, 2009 at 11:24 am
Yeah, those damned biased media…they keep reporting that we have lost 10 plus games every year for 6 years! I don’t know about you guys, but I don’t buy it! Friggin haters are full of it!
August 3rd, 2009 at 11:25 am
Thanks trey,
A ferw more people just heard/read my name thanks to you!!! hey could you do this on other sites as well just let em know who i am!!!! Thanks bro!!!
August 3rd, 2009 at 11:26 am
Bobby: my sources tell me that Danny Southwick is mormon. check out his website
http://www.dannysouthwick.com
very impressive young lad.
August 3rd, 2009 at 11:26 am
Oaklifer,
Kool-aid pimp comin to ya from the desert baby!
Man, I’m gettin pumped up! I can’t wait for September!
August 3rd, 2009 at 11:27 am
Plaxico has been indicted…but the LB got out of it…
August 3rd, 2009 at 11:27 am
Dakota: new definition of “hater”
anyone allergic to or not fond of Kool-Aid …
August 3rd, 2009 at 11:28 am
FREE PLAX!
August 3rd, 2009 at 11:29 am
answer dakota how can you say for certain that DHB can’t catch? what happens if he lights it up after the first few games? will you be man enough to admit your foolishness? I have my doubs. you are a hater like the rest.
August 3rd, 2009 at 11:29 am
featured player on the Raiders official website – Justin Fargas
August 3rd, 2009 at 11:30 am
off to lunch but my question to the nation is this…..
When some big names get cut here in the coming weeks will the raiders make a signing that has the shock and awe effect..if so who or what postion will it be at???
Or will we just stand pat????
RAIDER ON!!!
PLAYOFFBOUND!!!
Thanks for the love beech!!!!!!
August 3rd, 2009 at 11:31 am
our first preseason game is in 10 days!
August 3rd, 2009 at 11:32 am
Oaklifer
sure ill even throw a shout out to you on nfl live
barring no brett favre or tom brady news, or if I see that Adrian Peterson commercial again!
August 3rd, 2009 at 11:32 am
I think you are right about that Rockstar.
You don’t think Cable is the next Madden? You are a hater!
You don’t think Al the GM is untouchable? You are a hater!
You don’t think DHB is the best WR prospect ever? You are a hater!
You don’t think our defensive line is good enough? Man, what a fukin hater!
lol
August 3rd, 2009 at 11:33 am
Bob, you ever beat off while watching the Adrian Peterson commercial?
August 3rd, 2009 at 11:33 am
Kool-aid pimp comin to ya from the desert baby!
Man, I’m gettin pumped up! I can’t wait for September!
LETTTTTTTTTTTTTERRRRRRRRRRRRRR RRRRRRRIPPPPPPPPPPPP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
PLAYOFFBOUND!!!! see ya guys in a few!!
August 3rd, 2009 at 11:34 am
would u like some cheese with your constant whining dakota?
August 3rd, 2009 at 11:35 am
I am all for freedon of speech, in person!
C’mon down.
August 3rd, 2009 at 11:36 am
Hey Dakota? Don’t fuck with my rr or I’ll chop off your dick and serve it to bob
August 3rd, 2009 at 11:37 am
Freedom
August 3rd, 2009 at 11:38 am
and where are all the idiots that were calling for crabtree? did you all not take into consideration that we all ready have a big fast possession guy named Chaz? Now that would have been a wasted draft pick…
August 3rd, 2009 at 11:39 am
OAKlifer Says:
August 3rd, 2009 at 11:30 am
off to lunch but my question to the nation is this…..
When some big names get cut here in the coming weeks will the raiders make a signing that has the shock and awe effect..if so who or what postion will it be at???
Or will we just stand pat????
RAIDER ON!!!
PLAYOFFBOUND!!!
Thanks for the love beech!!!!!!
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Yes we will find DT help. On way or another.
August 3rd, 2009 at 11:39 am
now you will get booted trey. using real profanity is not too smart… lol
August 3rd, 2009 at 11:40 am
Hey who do you guys think Adrian Peterson is running to in that commercial? I hope it’s me
August 3rd, 2009 at 11:42 am
Oakcrapper, you are my boy! Old, wrinkled, smelly and senile, but still my boy!
August 3rd, 2009 at 11:44 am
Andrew Walter resurfaces in Minnesota after seeing that Adrian peterson commercial
August 3rd, 2009 at 11:48 am
OakLifer
I don’t see any big signings. The only change you will see is Derrick Burgess traded for a 3rd round pick (hopefully)….Here is the roster as I see it:
QB(3): Russell, Garcia, Frye
RB(3): DMAC, Bush, Fargas
FB(2): Neal, O’Neal
WR(6): Schilens, JLH, Walker, DHB, Murphy, Nick Miller
TE(3): Miller, Myers, Steward
OT(4): Henderson, Barnes, Green, McQuistan
OG(3): Gallery, Carlisle, Morris
C:(2): Satele, Wade
DE(5): Ellis, Scott, Shaughnessy, Richardson, Gunheim
DT(4): Kelly, Warren, Sands, Boschetti
LB(7): Howard, Morrison, Brown, Alston, Norris, Ekijuba,Williams (scholarship program)
CB(4): Asomugha, Johnson, Routt, Miller
SA(4): Eugene, Branch, Huff, Mitchell
ST(3): Lechler, Janikowski, Condo
August 3rd, 2009 at 11:48 am
Booted? Heavans no I’m Treyrockstar this site needs me
August 3rd, 2009 at 11:50 am
and where are all the idiots that were calling for crabtree? did you all not take into consideration that we all ready have a big fast possession guy named Chaz? Now that would have been a wasted draft pick…
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are you projecting that Chaz Schilens will be a better pro than Michael Crabtree?
and how do you call Crabs a “wasted pick” and not Heyward-Bey?
I wanted Crabtree prior to the draft. I don’t think that makes me an idiot …
August 3rd, 2009 at 11:52 am
no more infield… Says:
August 3rd, 2009 at 11:38 am
and where are all the idiots that were calling for crabtree? did you all not take into consideration that we all ready have a big fast possession guy named Chaz? Now that would have been a wasted draft pick…
………………………………………………
Ah yeah, you guys heard this from AZ already huh!
Chaz is the man! ….I mean DMAC is the man, but Chaz is the sh*t too! Crabtree didn’t have a place here in Oakland.
August 3rd, 2009 at 11:54 am
It’s a great morning to be a Raiders fan! Isn’t it?
If DHB doesn’t take a starter’s job this year, but his numbers in situational play come close to these, he and the team will be just fine:
Gms GS Rec Yds Avg Lng TD
16 1 33 771 23.4 74T 3
Those aren’t a superstar’s numbers…those are the rookie numbers of James Jett. When Jett started all 16-games (his career yrs 4-6), he was in the mid-40’s in receptions for 800+ yards.
Again — on the surface, no superstar numbers…but if DHB wins a starter’s job, 45-rec/800+yds is entirely possible this year from the rook.
Oh, yeah…here’s a cool stat. One year (’97) when Jett caught “only” 46-passes for 804-yards…he produced 12 TD’s. 12 TD’s in 46-receptions = a ratio of 1-TD for (less than) every 4th catch! Those are numbers we could all live with from DHB. In the beginning, at least.
Unfortunately, some people think DHB is a bust already, and if he doesn’t produce with 50+ receptions in year-one, they’ll beat their chests and proclaim they’ve been proven correct. When anybody who knows anything knows that rookie-year success from the WR position must be graded on a curve…and with an eye to the future.
August 3rd, 2009 at 11:54 am
Hey guys there’s a new post by jerry. Wow da guys on top of things
August 3rd, 2009 at 11:55 am
RR,
We have no way of “knowing”… It’s a wait and see game, but Crabs and Schilens are the same player.
August 3rd, 2009 at 1:49 pm
[...] Heyward-Bey struggled to catch the ball at practice sunday, at one point leaving three catchable passes on the ground, one time punting a drop into the [...]
August 3rd, 2009 at 2:04 pm
[...] – Meanwhile, while Javon Walker looks to be going through a resurgence during the Raiders’ now-infamous “learning phase” of training camp, Heyward-Bey spent Sunday dropping passes right and left, earning him a talking to from a certain octogenarian owner. “Heyward-Bey gave his Rickey Dudley impression in the presence of Al Davis, who was driven over in a golf cart to talk to Heyward-Bey afterward.” (Inside the Oakland Raiders) [...]
August 3rd, 2009 at 2:11 pm
WAlker, DHB, Higgins, or even my Grandmother! REally, I don’t care.
“Don’t bother me with trivialities… There Will Be Blood Tonite!!!”
(from one of the coolest movies ever, “Princess Bride”)
The top of all this stuff is the Chemistry Cable is bringing to the table for this team and that is the real story.
I just don’t care about this guy or the other guy this is FINALLY starting to look like a fricken TEAM!
That is so exiting i’m almost feeling gitty, but not just yet.
Dem’s a good start but, we’s still got sum rustlein to do so, Fire up da BBQ!
“Snoopy” Half way through a cowboy movie marathon session with my girl and a few friends”
This season will be new, unique and good!
As always people…
We are the Nation. The only Nation. RAIDER-NATION!
(you hear that “steal’r Rooney”)
EDC
August 3rd, 2009 at 2:24 pm
I have been saying this all along, but my fellow Raider fans have a tough time ever admitting the Raiders makes some mistakes. I like some of the picks the Raiders made in the draft, however, DHB is already dropping passes all over the field. This guy is a track guy, he does not have good hands. Maybe if he works and works at it, he will have average hands someday. I did not think this guy was worth the 7th pick of the draft and 23.5 million guaranteed. When you have a chance to pick number 7, you can really come away with a great player. I do believe Murphy was a steal in the 4th round, and Mitchell was a good pick in the second round, but DHB does not make catching a football look easy, he struggles with it. I hope he can make progress, but watching the tape on him does not show it.
Lets go Raider Nation!!!
August 3rd, 2009 at 3:56 pm
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