DHB, receivers catching on
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Tuesday, August 4th, 2009 at 7:01 pm in Oakland Raiders.
Quick hits following Tuesday’s second practice:
Looking for some good news about Darrius Heyward-Bey?
How about 16 passes targeted, 14 receptions. No. 11 was a one-handed snag near the sideline. One of the misses was on a low pass, the other could well have been a pass interference penalty on Chris Johnson, with the ball falling to the ground.
– DHB wasn’t the only one. It’s possible Will Franklin has dropped as many passes as Heyward-Bey since the beginning of camp, but no one knows it because, well, he’s Will Franklin. Franklin caught everything thrown his way Tuesday afternoon, including one sideline dart from JaMarcus Russell in front of Nnamdi Asomugha.
– Russell wasn’t as sharp in full team sessions as he was in 7-on-7 and drills, but there were sequences where he threw the ball very well. Better than at any open sessions during the offseason, and more consistently than any time during training camp last year.
– OK, there was one bad-hands sequnce during passing drills when Louis Murphy, Chaz Schilens and Jonathan Holland dropped passes in succession, although you could argue that they weren’t the easiest chances.
– Darren McFadden showed off the type of speed he had all through camp last year but lost in Week 2 agianst Kansas City when he was isolated on a swing pass to the left. He caught a perfectly thrown pass from Charlie Frye, accelerating into the ball, then squeezed past John Bowie and Darrick Brown _ both who seemed to have angles on him.
– Johnnie Lee Higgins got loose behind Bowie and Brown and caught a touch pass from Bruce Gradkowski for a big gainer. He mishandled a pass a short time later on a ball that may or may not have been in his reach, and it was the first time all camp I saw a pass hit the hands of JLH and not remain caught.
– Michael Huff has continued his maddening habit of being very tight with his coverage but still being just a fraction of a second late when the ball arrives, giving up the catch.
– Not sure if it will ever be useful in a game, but special teams coach John Fassel conducted a relay-type drill designed to help defenders pick up a fumble and score.
A football was placed on a cone, with a player lining up in a three-point stance in front of another player with a blocking pad. At the sound of the whistle, he got past the chuck, ran to the cone and knocked the ball on the ground. Then a player, racing up behind him, attempted to pounce on the fumble and make it to the end zone.
A few yards away, the there was another group doing the same thing at the same kind. In the closest heat, Jerome Boyd and Murphy appeared to cross the end zone in a photo finish, with no winner determined because the horn blew to go on to more important things.
– Defensive end Greg Ellis sat out his second straight practice. Coach Tom Cable said after the first session Ellis was not missing practice due to injury, but to keep him fresh throughout camp. If Ellis doesn’t go in Wednesday’s single practice, something is sore or injured.
– Quarterbacks coach Paul Hackett worked with quarterbacks on their footwork and selling a draw play out of a spread formation.
“Make it look realistic, make it look realistic,” Hackett said. “Slow them down.”
– Lineabacker Isaiah Ekejiuba missed the second practice, and fullback Oren O’Neal took the session off after participating in consecutive padded workouts.
– Strong safety Tyvon Branch continues to excel in coverage.
– Kirk Morrison, who gave way to Ricky Brown at middle linebacker for much of the first practice, was back with the first team in the second session.
Morrison attempted to blitz Russell with to his left, only to have Cornell Green pick it up perfectly and wall him off. The result was a Gradkowski-to-Darrell Strong completion in front of Huff.
The Raiders practice once at 3:30 p.m. Wednesday and I’ll be available for an on-line chat at 11 a.m. before I head to Napa.
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August 4th, 2009 at 7:06 pm
First!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
August 4th, 2009 at 7:09 pm
Thanks Jerry. GO DHB.
August 4th, 2009 at 7:10 pm
Morrison attempted to blitz Russell with to his left, only to have Cornell Green pick it up perfectly and wall him off. The result was a Gradkowski-to-Darrell Strong completion in front of Huff.
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Is this possible??????
August 4th, 2009 at 7:13 pm
Cable camp looks to be going pretty well. Cant wait for the 1st exhib game.
Where are the TE’s ?
August 4th, 2009 at 7:14 pm
Russell is blitz, but gradkowski completes the pass???????????
BRANCH and MITCHELL……. Let the explosions begin.
August 4th, 2009 at 7:15 pm
Morrison attempted to blitz Russell with to his left, only to have Cornell Green pick it up perfectly and wall him off.
Wait what? Cornell Green did that? Wow!
Thanks Jerry.
August 4th, 2009 at 7:15 pm
Why dont you take some time off & comeback after the first pre-season game? Surely you must have something better to do other than come in here and make childish comments on my post.
# Oakglenn Says:
August 4th, 2009 at 6:54 pm
Can’t get too exited about this stuff fellas. We’ll see how it goes in the lst preseason game.
August 4th, 2009 at 7:16 pm
Seems like jerry, and danny white are selective in what they report, we need a full pictur of what is going on. Where is ZMILLER?
August 4th, 2009 at 7:16 pm
If Marshall gets this defense in the top 15. He should be given a sainthood. Ryan should be tarred and feathered no matter what.
August 4th, 2009 at 7:17 pm
Cool.
Thanks Jerry. I won’t be around tomorrow so here’s the first question for the 11:00 chat.
Is Nixon getting any work on D??
August 4th, 2009 at 7:17 pm
It looks like all the Raiders needed was some good coaching and leadership. I’m getting the feeling that all that speed we have is about to pay off. DHB clearing out safeties and getting past DBs. DMac finding gaps and racing through defenses. Mitchell closing in on cats going across the middle and making them drop the potato. We need some blitzing from T Howard.
August 4th, 2009 at 7:18 pm
lmao. #3. i feel your pain man. i really do.
i hate cornell green so much you have no idea.
Where Garcia?
I want tyvon branch as the FS.
and MIKE MITCHELL as the SS. please.
oo0o0o0o please!!!!!
im so glad to hear that the recievers are catching the ball because last year. all i heard from jerry was drop drop drop bad pass. this and that.
GO RAIDERS!!!!
August 4th, 2009 at 7:18 pm
Bob, Do you still go to the practices????
August 4th, 2009 at 7:19 pm
Im guessing kirk morisson rushed gary russel the rb and it was a pass play and once he realized it wasn’t a run he went after gradkowski and got pancaked by cornell green. Thats the only thing I can see happening from what he’s saying or else it doesn’t make sense.
August 4th, 2009 at 7:20 pm
I havent been to one this summer yet. Maybe next week Thec.
August 4th, 2009 at 7:21 pm
POST 17, ROFLMFAO>>>>>>>>>>>Classic of the day…..
August 4th, 2009 at 7:23 pm
Bob, Last year in your posts you brought some good info
looking forward to when you go, as i beleive you get inside info….
August 4th, 2009 at 7:23 pm
About time. Reads as if things are falling into place, little by little…there’s no rush and no panic. Great.
I want to scream out that we’re getting there. There meaning that we’re good enough to start winning consistently, but because of the past six years, I’m tending to without my optimism. I’ve opening my mouth last year and predicted 10-6 and really took a beating from the Raider haters. I’ll be more conservative this year and only predict 9-7 but I feel comfortable about that. I see four wins against Denver and Kansas city and one win against the dischargers, so that’s five there.
Just four more, little bitty wins and we’re at 9-7 and play off bound.
Can’t wait until opening night against Norv Turner and the crip, who won’t play in playoff games … you know his name.
August 4th, 2009 at 7:26 pm
lmao! #17!!! geee jerry they getting on your ass.
i dont know why but. i would like DARREN MCFADDENs nickname to be
THE DARK KNIGHT!!!!!!!
August 4th, 2009 at 7:27 pm
We seriously need to cut bait with John Bowie. C’mon Al, the Moss thing is over.
August 4th, 2009 at 7:29 pm
bob, Who do you think should start for us at safeties, or is it to early to tell?
August 4th, 2009 at 7:30 pm
You know I was talking to my brother today and he’s a big time 49er fan and I was telling him how the media heads were reporting every drop that heyward bey has in practice and he said something that makes sense. How do you report the passes he dropped in practice that don’t matter?? The whole purpose of practice is to get better that’s why its called practice.lol He came in with suspect hands and he’s working on them?? I mean we get the f**n point he cant catch that great. But every dropped pass??? c’mon now…
August 4th, 2009 at 7:30 pm
Thec Im about to be banned again, not going to waste my time on safeties, Im not done with Jerry.
August 4th, 2009 at 7:31 pm
Post 26, is the winner and still champion……
cant stop laughing, I am actually crying…..
WOW……..LOL
Bob stop no more your killin me man…
August 4th, 2009 at 7:36 pm
I could care less if dhb dropped a million passes in practice just as long as when sunday comes and those hells bells sound, he comes ready to play and doesn’t drop a pass “then”. Because he can catch a millon passes in a row in practice, but if he gets in a game and drops td passes, who gives a s**t about how good or bad he played in practice??? So all this dhb talk I could careless about until sept 14th when it matters… I don’t even care about how he does in preseason… Just as long as he plays like he’s ready when it counts. and we have a looong way’s to go til then. So im not worried bout dhb.
August 4th, 2009 at 7:51 pm
# DKnight007 Says:
August 4th, 2009 at 6:50 pm
J Russ, Mitchell, Branch and DHB were solid today. They got to keep it up and not get too happy tho.
Be competitive, play hard, loosen up and have fun out there!
August 4th, 2009 at 7:52 pm
T Howard has speed to burn and he should be used in Blitz packages more often….he can get to the QB fast and can cause disruption and potential fumbles.
August 4th, 2009 at 7:53 pm
Bob, you need to let it go. Isn’t vicodin supposed tomake you happy? We get that you don’t like Jerry, so why do you still read him?
August 4th, 2009 at 7:55 pm
# Dmac20 Says:
August 4th, 2009 at 7:36 pm
I could care less if dhb dropped a million passes in practice just as long as when sunday comes and those hells bells sound, he comes ready to play and doesn’t drop a pass “then”. Because he can catch a millon passes in a row in practice, but if he gets in a game and drops td passes, who gives a s**t about how good or bad he played in practice??? So all this dhb talk I could careless about until sept 14th when it matters… I don’t even care about how he does in preseason… Just as long as he plays like he’s ready when it counts. and we have a looong way’s to go til then. So im not worried bout dhb.
^^^^^^^Exactly! Just as long he doesn’t drop easy catchable balls and TD’s during the REAL games….otherwise the drops he has in practice that are overly magnified don’t really matter.
August 4th, 2009 at 7:57 pm
Good practice.
August 4th, 2009 at 8:03 pm
Thec07 Says:
Bob, your right… I truly beleive jerry is some of the trolls on this site. I look at his picture and something is twisted about this guy.
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Thec, look at Jerry’s picture & think he looks like David Gilmore, the guitarist from Pink Floyd. Or maybe he just looks like my barber.
August 4th, 2009 at 8:07 pm
I think he looks like elmer fudd…
August 4th, 2009 at 8:08 pm
hey doesnt bob spell it narco??? Im just sayin..
August 4th, 2009 at 8:10 pm
Hey thec..
so I sent our conversation to mrs Dirty and she forwarded it to the Dirty 1… Thats a good girl even if she is a discharger fan..
August 4th, 2009 at 8:11 pm
Where is LMN???
August 4th, 2009 at 8:14 pm
Dknight yea man. I look at it and i find it ridiculous how all camp the hot topic is how many balls dhb dropped. Like jerry mentioned john holland has dropped just as many pass as dhb if not more but you don’t hear about it because of the fact that espn hasn’t made a big deal about it and put the microscope on it. Im quite sure all these rookie recievers drop passes in camp from nicks on down but we don’t here about them.And micheal crapshoot isn’t even in camp to drop pass, and this was the golden boy we just had too have??? Man we’ve been down that road before and us raider fans don’t need the head ache… Im just anxious to see what are starters look like on game day. Its been 11 looong games since we’ve beatin them damn chargers… Its bout time we take a stand and put the bully in his plce.lol
August 4th, 2009 at 8:15 pm
http://www.napavalleyregister.com/articles/2009/08/04/sports/doc4a7735c87a69d922775427.txt
August 4th, 2009 at 8:16 pm
looks kinda slow
August 4th, 2009 at 8:16 pm
L8r NATION
August 4th, 2009 at 8:18 pm
man we gotta come with some new chants at the games this year… Im like mcfadden!! fargas!!! and Bush!!! oH my!! mcfadden!! fargas!! and bush!!! OH my!! as we run over every team in the league this year.(;
August 4th, 2009 at 8:26 pm
If we get rid of Fargas, our offense should be fine. Louis Rankin is better than Fargas.
August 4th, 2009 at 8:29 pm
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August 4th, 2009 at 8:31 pm
Nawww. i don’t believe rankin is better than fargas. He may be faster but hes not better than fargas. Its more to the rb position than just running. Fargas plays hurt, fargas is a leader, fargas runs hard, he blocks well, mediocre hands. and out of those things stated I don’t believe rankin does either.lol He just runs fast… So I don’t see it
August 4th, 2009 at 8:32 pm
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August 4th, 2009 at 8:35 pm
Louis Rankin is better than Fargas? How do you figure that?
August 4th, 2009 at 8:36 pm
if rankin was really better than fargas trust me they’d play him ahead of fargas. The raiders started fargas ahead of lamont jordan and dominic rhodes because he was better. I see no reason why they’d keep fargas atop the depth chart if they had someone better or he didn’t deserve the spot. Especially when you have players such as dmac and bush.
August 4th, 2009 at 8:38 pm
Branch/Mitchell from day 1 I hope they take gates and tomlinsons head off!
GO RAIDERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
August 4th, 2009 at 8:39 pm
DMac20,
#57 is way too rational a thought for most on here.
August 4th, 2009 at 8:41 pm
A dude from Ohio U who wasnt even an all league player is going to start as a rookie in the NFL? Sure thing slick.
August 4th, 2009 at 8:42 pm
DMac,
Jonathon Holland is a scrub and wasnt drafted #7 overall, thats why ESPN dznt report on him.
August 4th, 2009 at 8:47 pm
lol raider ron I know. I believe alot of the people who come on here are young kids, or reaaal imature grown men who know nothing about sports. I know fargas isn’t the second coming of barry sanders nor is he a lt, adrian peterson, or ronnie brown. But he’s better than what alot of fans give him credit for. We can do wayyy worst trust me. I believe if half the team had his heart and desire we’d hardly ever lose.
August 4th, 2009 at 8:48 pm
No doubt. Some of the things I read on this site just make me shake my head. I wonder if all teams have fans like this, probably.
August 4th, 2009 at 8:52 pm
No holland wasn’t picked that high but you have players all over who drop passes in practice and its not displayed the way it is with dhb. I mean the man plays wide reciever, his job is to catch balls right?? So I can imagine the whole time he’s in practice he’s catching balls… They start practice at 8am till what ever time take a break and start again at 4:20… So out of six hours of catching balls he drops three and its a problem???
August 4th, 2009 at 8:57 pm
He comes in as a very questionable pick who was knocked because of inconsistent hands. The fact that he is dropping balls is a big deal. He is living up to the stereotype put upon him. If he has troubel catching passes then he will be a bust. I must ask though….Where are you reading all this media “hype”?
August 4th, 2009 at 8:59 pm
My point with dhb is this though..Outta all the first round picks at wr over the years we all know they have dropped passes. No matter first or second round. they drop passes. But the way they handle dhb is something like i’ve never seen before. And I believe its all because of espn. If espn would have never reacted to dhb the way they did on draft day we wouldn’t hear so much about dhb’s hands. The paper loves to spew negativity and espn opened that gate just because they hate the raiders, and the news papers are jumping on the bandwagon. Its messed up because half of those reporters haven’t even seen him play.
August 4th, 2009 at 9:01 pm
all the media hype on the net basically.lol
August 4th, 2009 at 9:04 pm
I mean if you had the world sayin you can’t do something before you even get a chance to show your stuff you’d be kinda nervous and have jitters to don’t you think? And if you’ve ever played sports you’ve had the jitters before and know its hard to do what you came to do no matter how great you are when your thinking too much.
August 4th, 2009 at 9:07 pm
He’s a questionable pick but either way those same people who claim he has the dropsies rated him as a first rounder one way or another. As bad as they bad mouth that man on draft day you’d think he should have been a undrafted free agent.lol It seems to me as if the media heads want him to fail.
August 4th, 2009 at 9:07 pm
Half those reporters havent seen him play?? Like Carter or McShay or Kiper?? Yeah, I am pretty sure theyve ALL seen him play way more than me or you. Come on man, thats their job. Is it really a coincidence that EVERY “expert” or scout dogged the pick? I mean, are the Raiders smarter than everyone else? Dont give me the “ESPN hates the Raiders” garbage. Thats such a stupid comment. Why would ESPN care either way about one single team?
August 4th, 2009 at 9:11 pm
Being a first round talent and getting picked #7 are two different things, especially when he was picked before higher rated guys. I.E.- Crabtree, Maclin, Harvin. DHB has questionable hands and never dominated in college but hes big and fast. All that equals first round talent, not a top 10 pick.
August 4th, 2009 at 9:12 pm
Last thing though tell me how I go to the barbershop and all the guys are talking ” oh yea the raiders got that reciever and he can’t catch.” I ask ok how many games have you seen him play??? They say”none.” Ok if you’ve never seen him play or even know enough about him to know he existed before the draft how can you say he can’t catch???lol You never even seen him play. Im tellin you bspn is the enemy.
August 4th, 2009 at 9:12 pm
Sure, jitters are part of any game. But like I said, as of right now he is proving the detractors to be correct, thats why its news.
August 4th, 2009 at 9:13 pm
I think the Raiders put themselves at a disadvantage, constantly harping about the Media, NFL, Referees. If you can’t get along with those people, maybe you should be in another business.
August 4th, 2009 at 9:14 pm
It wasnt just ESPN. It was every media outlet. EVERY ONE. Are they all wrong?
August 4th, 2009 at 9:15 pm
I agree Kool, its a tired act that the organization and its fans are always crying about.
August 4th, 2009 at 9:15 pm
Because al davis makes it that way. You know al tries to be different and stick it to the media. I mean look at how mort got at the organization earlier this year talking about the raiders owe him an apology??? Theirs bad blood between the raiders and espn trust me. al wants to make them look bad as well as espn want to make the raiders look bad and they do a good job at it.lol
August 4th, 2009 at 9:20 pm
Al Davis should be fighting with the AFC West and not ESPN.
August 4th, 2009 at 9:21 pm
Naw they’re not wrong dhb probably does have a problem with his hands but I don’t believe its as big as they make it out to be. and I don’t believe chris carter watches all college games he more so focuses on the nfl during the season. And all media reports the same thing. Its like differnt station same thoughts no matter the topic so you can’t count what everyone says because they always all say the same thing.
August 4th, 2009 at 9:24 pm
Playing the outsider all the time on everything. No wonder we get treated like a red-headed stepchild.
August 4th, 2009 at 9:26 pm
But yea tell me another team in the nfl who gets trashed as much as the raiders do by media heads. When they bring up the raiders name everyone laughs.): The detroit lions went 0-16 last year… Something thats never been done in the nfl this day and age, people bring them up and don’t get half the negative reaction as you would see when the raiders are mentioned.lol I mean nobody like the raiders but their fans if you don’t see that then I don’t know bro…
August 4th, 2009 at 9:29 pm
Isnt he kind of proving that they were right??
August 4th, 2009 at 9:31 pm
Its because of Al Davis and the way he does business. Hes a freakn senile ego maniac and he runs this team like a demented side show. THATS why the Raiders take more sheet than most.
August 4th, 2009 at 9:35 pm
# Dmac20 Says:
August 4th, 2009 at 9:12 pm
Last thing though tell me how I go to the barbershop and all the guys are talking ” oh yea the raiders got that reciever and he can’t catch.” I ask ok how many games have you seen him play??? They say”none.” Ok if you’ve never seen him play or even know enough about him to know he existed before the draft how can you say he can’t catch???lol You never even seen him play. Im tellin you bspn is the enemy.
^^^^^^^BSPN has been the enemy for years!
Like I said…lets wait to judge DHB when it comes to game day. Just as long as he doesn’t drop easy TD catches and drop easy 1st down conversion throws…..then he can drop every other ball in between.
August 4th, 2009 at 9:35 pm
Colin Cowherd of SportsNation (ESPN 2) just said that Jeff Garcia is not a locker room guy and that contributes to why he has bounced around the league in recent years. Their talking right now about QB battles in camp.
August 4th, 2009 at 9:36 pm
I think NFL establishment do like to make fun of the Raiders, but, I think Davis brings a lot of that stuff onto himself.
He’s such an Icon, if he would do a little media, socialize a little, he’d have them eating out of his hands.
August 4th, 2009 at 9:39 pm
The overall sports media (BSPN mainly) are a bunch of c**k sukas!
August 4th, 2009 at 9:41 pm
Theres your typical Raider fan…..”c**k sukas!” LOL!!
August 4th, 2009 at 9:42 pm
RaiderRon #74
That’s about it, unfortunately.
August 4th, 2009 at 9:50 pm
Who tha F%#k is RaiderRon? Are you a Texas Tech Red Raider fan or something? GTF off this blog with these negative comments about the team and the fans.
August 4th, 2009 at 9:55 pm
LOL! OK 504. Im gone. Thanks for proving my point there tough guy. C you all……… Nah, I aint going nowhere. Lets hear some of you Al Davis boot lickn, Raider Kool aid drinkn opinions.
August 4th, 2009 at 10:17 pm
Ron if the patriots or giants would have picked dhb do you believe he would have recieved as much flak as hes recieved thus far? and we’re talking in the same slot at 7 also.
August 4th, 2009 at 10:17 pm
There are no real issues with DHB that aren’t taking place with each and every rookie WR……..period if you don’t think so go to the local beat writers blogs. Even DMC is dropping passes but it doesn’t get the same buzz by Jerry and David. Mitchell is looking like a player so far but no buzz! Russell is showing all the signs of the next great young QB in the league; no buzz!
If the Russell was missing recievers do you think there would be some buzz? If he were 300+ lbs. do you think there would be some buzz?
It’s blatantly obvious what the media likes to do which is get the fans upset which creats hits and all kinds of consternation about Al Davis being stupid picking questionable players. Nothing would make them happier.
Problem none of that stuff is happening. So Jerry is incapable of putting together positive momentum gathering buzz. because then the owner would look like he knows what he’s doing.
And they don’t want that……….period
August 4th, 2009 at 10:21 pm
Carter wanted to attack Mr Davis’s credibility which is what he did. He wasn’t concerned about DHB much but he wanted to slam Al Davis and he did it through his draft pick.
Everyone who’s ever heard Carter talk about Al Davis should know that.
August 4th, 2009 at 10:40 pm
If DHB and Mike Mitchell turn out to be the type of players the team thought they would be, what then? Who get’s the credit?? who know who will get the blame if they don’t.
It’s starting to look like Rickey Brown has taken Kirk’s job at least he will be used extensively at MLB.
Jhill are you listening, great call by the way. It appears that both will be used inside on 3/4 alignment. Which I think gives the optimum personnel on the field. Alston and Howard outside. The front three look to be Boschetti, Sands or Warren at NG and TKelly. Not a bad front7.
For those who believe that Marshall wont run his defense I think are alittle misguided.Marshall has always used the man defense with mixed zone. The most important is the front7.
August 4th, 2009 at 11:06 pm
# RaiderRon Says:
August 4th, 2009 at 8:57 pm
He comes in as a very questionable pick who was knocked because of inconsistent hands. The fact that he is dropping balls is a big deal. He is living up to the stereotype put upon him. If he has troubel catching passes then he will be a bust. I must ask though….Where are you reading all this media “hype”?
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So it is a problem??? The first practice back after being laid off throughout OTA’s and shaking off the rust and we are ready to dump him?
Seriously, what do you suggest be done? Write him off and say “Oh, we f***ed this pick – ok let’s try this next year because .. I mean after all he DID drop 4 passes in practice”
Here is something to bite down on….
How many passes did….
Jerry Rice
Art Monk
Sterling Sharpe
Gary Clark
Don Meredith
Michael Irvin
Andre Reed
Roy Green
Harold Carmichael
Lance Alworth
Charlie Joiner
Mark Clayton
Mark Duper
Herman Moore
Tim Brown
Cris Carter
Andre Rison
and many others drop in camps before?
Mmmhmmm think long and hard about that and call me an idiot because there is no way to tell..
Thats because there was no such thing as TWITTER and not everybody and their mother could be a blogger or a coffee shop journalist who paid for press passes to go to practices and update you every nanosecond..
Seriously, these guys are running out of worthless stuff to update you about and the only reason they are doing it is because they have to give you something to keep it moving.
What’s next? Are we going to question Jeff Garcias declining arm strength because he couldnt shake his unit off hard enough after he pissed in a Twitter update?
I bet some of you would extract something from that as well.
August 4th, 2009 at 11:10 pm
This is just an educated guess but I think Big Al is getting ready to announce his GM. That GM IMO is going to be Steve Wizneiski.
I have felt for some time that Wiz is the one he was talking about but now that he is making appearances at camp it’ starting to look like it is going to be Wiz. I think this will be a great choice as well. Wiz is very smart and understands what Mr Davis is looking for and what a Raider looks like. Also he just fits in terms of working with Mr Davis and yet getting his own point accorss with little acrimony and great progress. In other words Mr Davis would be quicker to trust Wiz’s intentions. As well as his ability to judge talent. I think the past couple of years that Wiz has been preparing for this undertaking. Also I think that Mr Davis feels that the team is turning the corner which will allow him to be trusting and more patient. The team winning makes it easier for him to make that transition than if they’re losing.
So we’ll see…
August 4th, 2009 at 11:13 pm
Mistabrown Says:
August 4th, 2009 at 7:15 pm
Why dont you take some time off & comeback after the first pre-season game? Surely you must have something better to do other than come in here and make childish comments on my post.
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I would, but in just a couple of weeks you would have filled this place with such a monumental amount of ignorant crap that it would take all season to dig out. Better stay right here, and correct you every couple of minutes.
August 4th, 2009 at 11:18 pm
# priesttj Says:
August 4th, 2009 at 11:10 pm
This is just an educated guess but I think Big Al is getting ready to announce his GM. That GM IMO is going to be Steve Wizneiski.
I have felt for some time that Wiz is the one he was talking about but now that he is making appearances at camp it’ starting to look like it is going to be Wiz. I think this will be a great choice as well. Wiz is very smart and understands what Mr Davis is looking for and what a Raider looks like. Also he just fits in terms of working with Mr Davis and yet getting his own point accorss with little acrimony and great progress. In other words Mr Davis would be quicker to trust Wiz’s intentions. As well as his ability to judge talent. I think the past couple of years that Wiz has been preparing for this undertaking. Also I think that Mr Davis feels that the team is turning the corner which will allow him to be trusting and more patient. The team winning makes it easier for him to make that transition than if they’re losing.
So we’ll see…
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Fair points..
Interesting as well.
My question is two parts..
1 – CAN Wiz judge talent?
and
2 – WOULD Wiz be given autonomy to do so?
August 4th, 2009 at 11:20 pm
lol omg lol i just watched the segment on nfl.com about the chargers super bowl or bust this year, man it’s going to be great when the raiders beat them monday night and they all they how the chargers are in for it after that loss…..
August 4th, 2009 at 11:33 pm
Why so much indecision about the next GM Priest? If you’re going to try and have us believe you go to practice & chop it up with players & coaches run your game to the finish line man!
And what a surprise you think this is going to be a great choice!!! LMAO what else would you think Priest? What you do doesnt require ANY thinking at all just drink the koolaid & tow the company line.
# priesttj Says:
August 4th, 2009 at 11:10 pm
This is just an educated guess but I think Big Al is getting ready to announce his GM. That GM IMO is going to be Steve Wizneiski.
I have felt for some time that Wiz is the one he was talking about but now that he is making appearances at camp it’ starting to look like it is going to be Wiz.
August 4th, 2009 at 11:33 pm
The last 4 years the AFC West division has handed the Dischargers a one way ticket to the NFL playoffs on a silver platter, and the Dischargers STILL couldn’t make it to the dance. KC and Denver are completely floundering. It is time for us to resume our rightful spot atop the division, and you do that by beating it out of the lame Dischargers. If not in Week one, then hopefully by week 8.
August 4th, 2009 at 11:35 pm
Priest,
Wiz has no GM experience to speak of and yet you feel its a great choice!
Based on what ?
August 4th, 2009 at 11:35 pm
# Teabag Says:
August 4th, 2009 at 11:06 pm
# RaiderRon Says:
August 4th, 2009 at 8:57 pm
He comes in as a very questionable pick who was knocked because of inconsistent hands. The fact that he is dropping balls is a big deal. He is living up to the stereotype put upon him. If he has troubel catching passes then he will be a bust. I must ask though….Where are you reading all this media “hype”?
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So it is a problem??? The first practice back after being laid off throughout OTA’s and shaking off the rust and we are ready to dump him?
Seriously, what do you suggest be done? Write him off and say “Oh, we f***ed this pick – ok let’s try this next year because .. I mean after all he DID drop 4 passes in practice”
Here is something to bite down on….
How many passes did….
Jerry Rice
Art Monk
Sterling Sharpe
Gary Clark
Don Meredith
Michael Irvin
Andre Reed
Roy Green
Harold Carmichael
Lance Alworth
Charlie Joiner
Mark Clayton
Mark Duper
Herman Moore
Tim Brown
Cris Carter
Andre Rison
and many others drop in camps before?
Mmmhmmm think long and hard about that and call me an idiot because there is no way to tell..
Thats because there was no such thing as TWITTER and not everybody and their mother could be a blogger or a coffee shop journalist who paid for press passes to go to practices and update you every nanosecond..
Seriously, these guys are running out of worthless stuff to update you about and the only reason they are doing it is because they have to give you something to keep it moving.
What’s next? Are we going to question Jeff Garcias declining arm strength because he couldnt shake his unit off hard enough after he pissed in a Twitter update?
I bet some of you would extract something from that as well.
^^^^^^^^
The clowns in the media who vote for the HOF are idiots….Guy, Wiz, Plunkett, Flores, Stabler and Hayes are Raiders who should be in the freakin HOF!
August 4th, 2009 at 11:41 pm
Priest you are what 45-50 years old and you are still whining about the media coverage ? Why dont you sack up & grow out of it. Sheesh I did the same thing about 20 years ago as you’re still doing today.
You know damn well AL hates the media and vise versa. Its a pissing match between the him & the media so let it roll off your back & quit bitchin like a lil bich!
August 4th, 2009 at 11:41 pm
# priesttj Says:
August 4th, 2009 at 11:10 pm
This is just an educated guess but I think Big Al is getting ready to announce his GM. That GM IMO is going to be Steve Wizneiski.
I have felt for some time that Wiz is the one he was talking about but now that he is making appearances at camp it’ starting to look like it is going to be Wiz. I think this will be a great choice as well. Wiz is very smart and understands what Mr Davis is looking for and what a Raider looks like. Also he just fits in terms of working with Mr Davis and yet getting his own point accorss with little acrimony and great progress. In other words Mr Davis would be quicker to trust Wiz’s intentions. As well as his ability to judge talent. I think the past couple of years that Wiz has been preparing for this undertaking. Also I think that Mr Davis feels that the team is turning the corner which will allow him to be trusting and more patient. The team winning makes it easier for him to make that transition than if they’re losing.
So we’ll see…
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nice take priest. did think about what Whiz could be doing when i read about him at camp but did not go this far…would be wise as AD is well old and you cant put EVERYthing on TCs shoulders. would be great choice for all the reasons you have mentioned, and what i would like about Wizz as GM additionally is the offensive-lineman-mentality he would share with coach TC. they both pretty young too and could go a long way together with our also very young team. lets hhope we hear it soon!
August 4th, 2009 at 11:44 pm
# Teabag Says:
August 4th, 2009 at 11:06 pm
# RaiderRon Says:
August 4th, 2009 at 8:57 pm
He comes in as a very questionable pick who was knocked because of inconsistent hands. The fact that he is dropping balls is a big deal. He is living up to the stereotype put upon him. If he has troubel catching passes then he will be a bust. I must ask though….Where are you reading all this media “hype”?
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So it is a problem??? The first practice back after being laid off throughout OTA’s and shaking off the rust and we are ready to dump him?
Seriously, what do you suggest be done? Write him off and say “Oh, we f***ed this pick – ok let’s try this next year because .. I mean after all he DID drop 4 passes in practice”
Here is something to bite down on….
How many passes did….
Jerry Rice
Art Monk
Sterling Sharpe
Gary Clark
Don Meredith
Michael Irvin
Andre Reed
Roy Green
Harold Carmichael
Lance Alworth
Charlie Joiner
Mark Clayton
Mark Duper
Herman Moore
Tim Brown
Cris Carter
Andre Rison
and many others drop in camps before?
Mmmhmmm think long and hard about that and call me an idiot because there is no way to tell..
Thats because there was no such thing as TWITTER and not everybody and their mother could be a blogger or a coffee shop journalist who paid for press passes to go to practices and update you every nanosecond..
Seriously, these guys are running out of worthless stuff to update you about and the only reason they are doing it is because they have to give you something to keep it moving.
What’s next? Are we going to question Jeff Garcias declining arm strength because he couldnt shake his unit off hard enough after he pissed in a Twitter update?
I bet some of you would extract something from that as well.
^^^^^^Couldn’t have said it better myself!
And yes…Wiz maybe in line for a player personnel position. Wiz should also be in consideration for the HOF….some of these idiot sports writers will look to downgrade him and say he was dirty player with a bad rep…..but half the freakin O-Linemen, D-Linemen and LB’s in the HOF were known for being dirty players!
What a joke these people who vote for the HOF really are! Why aren’t Guy, Plunkett, Flores, Stabler and Hayes in the HOF?
August 4th, 2009 at 11:46 pm
Khalif Barnes out 4-6 weeks
http://oak.scout.com/2/884875.html
August 4th, 2009 at 11:52 pm
# Teabag Says:
August 4th, 2009 at 11:46 pm
Khalif Barnes out 4-6 weeks
http://oak.scout.com/2/884875.html
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nooo. well at least its no ligaments or anything like it and “just” a bone fracture…get well soon big guy!
August 4th, 2009 at 11:52 pm
# Teabag Says:
August 4th, 2009 at 11:46 pm
Khalif Barnes out 4-6 weeks
http://oak.scout.com/2/884875.html
^^^^^^Great….Cable should have just kept him on the 1st team as the RT…instead of moving him to LT on the 2nd team….well lets hope he can play in 5 weeks max. Now we are stuck with Cornell Green at RT….I’m hoping James Marten can step up and snag that RT spot.
August 4th, 2009 at 11:54 pm
RaiderRon Says:
August 4th, 2009 at 9:41 pm
Theres your typical Raider fan…..”c**k sukas!” LOL!
^^^^^^Well they sure are….Deadwood style c**k sukas too!
August 4th, 2009 at 11:55 pm
Teabag Says:
August 4th, 2009 at 11:46 pm
Khalif Barnes out 4-6 weeks
All that complaining when asked about going to the right side. Now he’s lucky if he plays at all. Like the saying goes…God don’t like ugly.
August 4th, 2009 at 11:58 pm
I’m tellin ya…The old man and Cable better start looking to bring in more OL help….if injuries start happening to our main guys on the OL….that will be not good…at all!
The depth on the OL still is iffy in my opinion.
Hope Pears and Marten step it up for that RT spot…I can’t stand Green.
August 5th, 2009 at 12:20 am
I think Wiz would be great choice based on conversatins I’ve had with his ex-teammates. Teammates that I respect their opinions. They also said he wuld be a great choice.
Now who knows what kind of success he’ll have until he’s been through that meatgrinder. but I’ll tell ya’ talent evaluation is much easier than coaching. His first asset is he’s very familiar with the scouting dept. He’s obviously familiar with Mr Davis. While I don’t believe he will have total autonomy. No one has ever had total autonomy in this organzation what everyone has been asking for is someone that Mr Davis can and will work with to help acquire talent assemble a team. I don’t think when Mr Davis said he was looking at someone to help him that he said they would be handed the keys and he would step down.
Wiz is someone I believe will learn and prepare himself very well and when and if something were to happen to Mr Davis be ready and able to take over and get the job done. There are no young Al Davis’s on the horizon. We’ll have to take what’s available.
Based on what I’ve heard about Wiz he would make a very good choice. He played the game at the highest level and from what I’ve heard has a very high IQ for the game.
So we’ll see. It’s just an opinion
August 5th, 2009 at 12:31 am
Wow, it’s great to be a Raiders fan. Isn’t it?
First, let me say for the thousandth time: Al and the Raiders deserve to be harshly criticized where they deserve it. Key words: where they deserve it.
All the talk of the media vs Al and/or the Raiders brings to mind what ESPN said today about Hakeem Nicks (my choice to trade down for at the time, but I’m glad we got DHB…I think he’s a superstar to be).
The guys on ESPN basically said Hakeem Nicks was the Giants’ answer at WR — filling the HUGE void they felt after losing Plax — even before they’ve seen Nicks play in the NFL.
How is it the “experts” are sure Nicks is the answer for NYG, but DHB is a bust? Just because the Raiders picked him? That’s real expert analysis right there.
Here are the WR’s for the Raiders and for the NY Giants…(minus a little SB bling owned by a few of their receivers) talent-wise, both WR corps look amazingly similar right now.
Oakland Raiders
Name Ht Wt DOB Yrs Sch
Bayes, Shawn 5′10″ 180 7/8/1987 0 Kent State
Franklin, Will 6′0″ 210 10/13/1985 2 Missouri
Heyward-Bey, Darrius 6′2″ 210 2/26/1987 0 Maryland
Higgins, Johnnie Lee 5′11″ 185 9/8/1983 3 UTEP
Holland, Jonathan 6′1″ 195 2/18/1985 2 Louisiana Tech
Miller, Nick 5′9″ 180 3/29/1987 0 Southern Utah
Murphy, Louis 6′2″ 200 5/11/1987 0 Florida
Parker, Samie 5′11″ 185 3/25/1981 5 Oregon
Schilens, Chaz 6′4″ 225 11/7/1985 2 San Diego State
Walker, Javon 6′3″ 215 10/14/1978 8 Florida State
Watkins, Todd 6′2″ 190 6/22/1983 2 Brigham Young
NY Giants
Name Ht Wt DOB Yrs Sch
Barden, Ramses 6′6″ 227 1/1/1986 0 Cal Poly-S.L.O.
Biddle, Taye 6′1″ 185 2/27/1983 2 Mississippi
Bodiford, Shaun 5′11″ 186 5/4/1982 3 Portland State
Hagan, Derek 6′2″ 215 9/21/1984 4 Arizona State
Hixon, Domenik 6′2″ 182 10/8/1984 4 Akron
Manningham, Mario 5′11″ 183 5/25/1986 2 Michigan
Moss, Sinorice 5′8″ 185 12/28/1983 4 Miami (Fla.)
Nicks, Hakeem 6′1″ 215 11/14/1988 0 North Carolina
Smith, Steve 5′11″ 195 5/6/1985 3 USC
Tyree, David 6′0″ 206 1/3/1980 6 Syracuse
August 5th, 2009 at 12:42 am
No more stats tonight.
Early meeting in the morning…
…another great morning to be a Raiders fan.
It’s great, I’m tellin’ ya.
August 5th, 2009 at 12:49 am
like i said, i think ADs lingering lack of mobility forces him to have somebody take of the weight of TC. cause he cant roam the sidelines and see the team, product to make the decisions he needs to make as the Owner/GMPartner and TC needs help from up top with the personel decisions and the coaching he has to do with this young team. Wiz, or any other help will help both sides and i think AD realizing this disadvantage will introduce someone soon…
August 5th, 2009 at 12:52 am
“Wiz, or any other NAME will help both sides and i think AD realizing this disadvantage will introduce someone soon…”
sry
August 5th, 2009 at 1:05 am
Hayez wrote:
“First, let me say for the thousandth time: Al and the Raiders deserve to be harshly criticized where they deserve it. Key words: where they deserve it.”
When have they ever deserved it, in your mind, Hayez? When they hired Gruden and Kiffin? When they drafted Marcus Allen? That’s pretty much it, right? Tell me what drugs you’re mixing. I want to feel like it’s a great day to be a Raider fan, too.
August 5th, 2009 at 1:12 am
# Dmac20 Says:
August 4th, 2009 at 9:26 pm
But yea tell me another team in the nfl who gets trashed as much as the raiders do by media heads. When they bring up the raiders name everyone laughs.): The detroit lions went 0-16 last year… Something thats never been done in the nfl this day and age, people bring them up and don’t get half the negative reaction as you would see when the raiders are mentioned.lol I mean nobody like the raiders but their fans if you don’t see that then I don’t know bro…
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It’s because Detroit has made moves in upper management. We haven’t. Al Davis has been our GM throughout our 6 year skid, and he’s still GM. Detroit fired Millen. They’ve shown they’re serious about pulling themselves out. That’s why the media gives them more respect than us. They’re trying, we’re not.
August 5th, 2009 at 1:32 am
I must disagree with you TRMR. A team that set an unprecedented standard of mediocrity that is unparalleled in the history of the league, has a WHOLE lot more to prove at this point than the Raiders do.
The Detroit Lions upper management is not going to be playing on the football field each Sunday. At this point it’s all conjecture and speculation for every team in the NFL.
It’s is a case of SEVERE grasping for straws to suggest that an 0-16 team deserves LESS criticism than the Raiders who defeated two playoff bound teams to finish out their season last year.
August 5th, 2009 at 1:33 am
HD. check out this picture and tell me how and who is gonna cover this guy in a year or two…..he is bigger then our HC! an ex-OLineman! people dont really understand what kind of athlete this kid is imo. he is a big kid with wide hips, long arms and more explosion then Andre Johnson that will be hard to tackle if you are not in perfect position as a DB.
when he has the heart to play the game, shows he belongs and of course stays healthy, watch out.
http://www.raiderfans.net/forum/gallery/showphoto.php/photo/1320
August 5th, 2009 at 1:39 am
Kush i agree.
plus can some tell TRMR that we are rebuilding from the moment the raiders picked J Russell?
AD tried to reload a veteran team after the SB and pulled the line when even Art couldnt handle the Mosses and Porters of the world and went the rebuilding road.
we are rebuilding, with a quick delay aka Kiff-gate, and still are well on our way out of the top ten picks in appril so…whats the fuss about?
August 5th, 2009 at 1:58 am
It’s our year…Make no mistake!
August 5th, 2009 at 2:50 am
Trmr… so you’re saying the raiders should be laughed at because of who runs the organization??? The cardinals have never won a super bowl, and made it to the playoffs for the first time in god knows how long and even back in the days when they weren’t competitive, I never remembered a reporter laughing at the mentioning of their name. Detroit has been a piece of shit team for as long as i can remember not just since last year either. I mean they don’t even have a super bowl to their name in “history”. and you’re talikng about management??? Their so called “management” has never gotten their team a superbowl ever, But yet you believe they deserve more respect than our raiders??? C’mon now lets be real here, the media are al davis haters and obviously so are you if thats ya best argument for why the raiders deserve the hate they recieve in the media. Bspn has fried your raider lovin brain.lol
August 5th, 2009 at 3:27 am
Im not a so called kool aid drinker, or al lover. But before i attack people or judge them I try to put myself in their shoes and see things through both lenses to understand them. Yes al has made some bad desicions but at the same time what gm/owner hasn’t??? Al has won many games as owner of the raiders, “many,” thats why many of us are fans today. We were great at one point in time and that was with als leadership. Now put yourself in al shoes… You own the raiders, have had much success over the years, 5 superbowls should have been six (if it weren’t for the game in the snow) won 3, while some of your counterparts have yet to win their first. Each decade you’ve produced a winner at some point in time. You’ve been around football all your life. This team is your heart and soul. You pay the checks. How would you run your team??? My reply is how the F*** I want to.lol See I don’t dislike al davis because he runs his team exactly how i would. I dont care if espn thinks signing mike vick is a bad idea… If I want him im signing em, i pay the checks. A gm??? what do I need a buisness for if im not going to run it??? Yea id be open to ideas from others, but at the end of the day the final desicion is mines. Ive won before why should I feel I can’t do it again???
So how can I knock Al D when I’d probably do the same?? truth is I can’t. So I can do nothin but respect em. And I believe many of you al haters would run your team exactly the same… making all the decisions and taking chances on players you feel would help your team. I admit signing deangelo hall and gibril wilson and randy moss and javon walker didn’t bold well. But man I would have gone after them too if I owned the team, because they were high profile players and at the time it sounded like a good idea. And when they all came aboard we were all drinking the kool aid, even you al haters thought sb when randy came along (lol) don’t lie. But thats life you win some you lose some, and that goes for football too.So I wouldn’t wish for his death like some on here, because nobody wins all the time. And this year I believe we’re going to turn it around “with” al upstairs, proving the pundits and all al haters wrong. If we make it deep into the playoffs past wildcard should he still die??? we’re a winner right??? But yea thats just my thoughts.
August 5th, 2009 at 3:29 am
Raider68 Says:
August 4th, 2009 at 7:16 pm
If Marshall gets this defense in the top 15. He should be given a sainthood. Ryan should be tarred and feathered no matter what
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Marshall’s discipline could be sighted, but the offenses production could be a big factor in the defenses success.
August 5th, 2009 at 4:34 am
Dmac20 > Very logical post there!
I am not a huge fan of this lousy streak or Al but you’re right.
August 5th, 2009 at 5:24 am
If we need a new DT, Dorsey has failed the conditioning tests at KC and is supposed to hate the prospect of playing in a 3:4.
Ross Tucker says Dorsey needs a new team. KC might do a trade – what about offering Michael Huff and a 2010 3rd rounder?
August 5th, 2009 at 5:30 am
# RaiderRon Says:
August 4th, 2009 at 8:41 pm
A dude from Ohio U who wasnt even an all league player is going to start as a rookie in the NFL? Sure thing slick.
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Yeah if you don’t go to a major college or start you can never have success in the NFL that why Tom Brady has 3 rings and Drew Henson is a bust. No way a wr from MVS will ever be the greatest wr of all time. Keep thinking that way slick!!!
August 5th, 2009 at 5:37 am
Let’s see — none of these experts even had Mike Mitchell ranked to go in the first FOUR rounds of the draft and he goes #42 overall? Al thinks he is a hard hitter and that means he is a “starting safety” in the NFL, all of a sudden? Brock Lesnar was a hard hitter – couldn’t make it in the NFL! Kimbo Slice was a hard hitter … get the point?
August 5th, 2009 at 5:44 am
dmac20 —> post 116 is good post
August 5th, 2009 at 5:54 am
For all the Fargas haters out there, let me say this: For someone to run as hard as he did last year (behind Kwame, no less!) and still be our leading ground gainer, I think he MORE than proved himself and his worth to the team. Now, with DMac back and Bush just hitting his stride, it looks like we have the proverbial “three-headed monster” in the backfield. What this will mean is that we will become more West Coast-oriented, which is not what JaMarcus is strong at. Look for lots of Garcia (by week 4), along with a number of flare passes to the backs coming out, lots of love toward Z. Miller and Johnnie Lee on crossing routes. I am hopeful about Javon (but not holding my breath) and I predict the big surprise on offense this year will be Louis Murphy.
August 5th, 2009 at 6:09 am
116. I agree with the post.
Many of us may think that Al is letting the game get away from him quickly and that he lives half his life in a hyper-barric chamber, but you don’t do what he has for nearly fifty years as an idiot. He is never afraid to try new things — he once gave the team’s reins to a young coach with little experience (does anyone remember John Madden?); he also took a chance on Randy Moss, who many GMs and owners would have tried to get … that just didn’t work out. He tried to give another young budding coaching talent a chance in Lane Kiffin — fortunately, he was strong enough to throw that young man under the bus before Kiff drove our bus over the cliff. Now, he’s being maligned for picking DHB and MM. Trust me, I would NEVER HAVE MADE THOSE PICKS! But Al is the owner, he’s a smart man, and he has a vision for the team. We can’t see things through his eyes, only our own biased, clouded ones. Cut the man a break, wish him good health, and cheer on the team — there will be plenty of time for griping later, I’m sure!
August 5th, 2009 at 6:19 am
Good Morning Nation!!!
DMac20, post 116…right on brother! No matter what we say and how much we moan and groan, Al Davis is still the owner and he will do things his way. Not that I agree with everything he has done thru the years, but…you have to respect him!
August 5th, 2009 at 6:24 am
Franklin caught everything thrown his way Tuesday afternoon, including one sideline dart from JaMarcus Russell in front of Nnamdi Asomugha.
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who said yesterday that Nick Miller was a shoe in for the 53 man roster?
Shawn Bayes ripped it up in the Tuesday AM practice..
who said Schilens is better than Higgins? Jerry Mac said he’s only seen JLH drop 1 pass all offseason. Saw Chaz drop one yesterday too
August 5th, 2009 at 6:25 am
good morning Hwnrdr, NMF, Scottish …
August 5th, 2009 at 6:25 am
good morning Tbone, Tex, Copen …
August 5th, 2009 at 6:31 am
Ross Tucker says Dorsey needs a new team. KC might do a trade – what about offering Michael Huff and a 2010 3rd rounder?
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KC would never trade Dorsey to the donks, dolts or Raiders…
August 5th, 2009 at 6:34 am
Good morning Rockstar:
I don’t think KC would do a trade like that again after Gannon. But, you never know…
August 5th, 2009 at 6:35 am
we will become more West Coast-oriented, which is not what JaMarcus is strong at. Look for lots of Garcia (by week 4)
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uh oh Tbone. you mention the words Garcia and starter or playing time in the same sentance and tons of Raider fans will start throwing spears at you. they don’t want to hear “may the best man win” they want to hear “Russell is the best QB and there isn’t any competition for him”. I’ve tried to reason with them, because Al Davis cares more about winning than money spent, but it didn’t pan out and i’m still waiting for my wounds to heal
August 5th, 2009 at 6:37 am
Hwnrdr, I thought Gannon was a free agent when he signed with us?
I don’t recall him being traded here. I’m probably wrong though
August 5th, 2009 at 6:43 am
anybody think Gannon will drop by Raiders training camp or be welcome there this offseason after bashing Al Davis during the Kiffin fiasco and basically calling Russell a bust?
August 5th, 2009 at 6:46 am
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August 5th, 2009 at 6:49 am
raidertbone Says:
August 5th, 2009 at 5:54 am
For all the Fargas haters out there, let me say this: For someone to run as hard as he did last year (behind Kwame, no less!) and still be our leading ground gainer, I think he MORE than proved himself and his worth to the team. Now, with DMac back and Bush just hitting his stride, it looks like we have the proverbial “three-headed monster” in the backfield. ======================================================
Fargas is an average player. A nice adequate average player. Average players perform…well…average. Why do the Raiders try to win with a bunch of average players and try to make the extraordinary? 218 carries 3.9 per carry 1TD — that’s not game changing, that’s not high impact….the guy is also 29 yrs old…we know what we have with him….I say give DMAC and Bush the ball and see what they can do at 22 and 23 yrs old. Why not dare to be great?
Fargas is a leader and hard runner…trust me…I get it. But what he isn’t is great. Teams wanted to trade for Michael Bush and not Justin Fargas. Why? Let’s not dupe ourselves into a bland “same ol same ol” offense here. Fargas has a role…just not as prominent.
Also, I have rarely, if ever, seen a “three headed monster” in the backfield ever work. This isn’t the college wishbone or full-house offense. There is not enough carries to distribute meaningful carries to all three backs…These RBs needs AT LEAST 10 to 12 carries to be effective….4 and 5 might as well be zero.
Let’s just dare to be great and put the best players with the chance to be great on the field for once and see what happens!
I am tired of the Raiders constantly WASTING young talent for average vets…only to play the youngsters later in the career where they are no longer as effective or confident as they might have been…For an example…see Fargas…perhaps they should have played him earlier in the career instead of waiting until his 5th and 6th yr.
August 5th, 2009 at 6:51 am
Rockstar, you’re right. But, I never thought KC would let him sign within the division, let alone the Raiders. But, as a FA, it really doesn’t matter, though.
As for Gannon dropping by…I doubt it. He’s very vocal about the Raiders. The Bucs game, wasn’t he praising the way Russell and Bush, and company was playing…its been too long!
August 5th, 2009 at 6:53 am
Good Post 136.
Nothing more to add!
August 5th, 2009 at 6:56 am
raidertbone Says:
August 5th, 2009 at 5:54 am
What this will mean is that we will become more West Coast-oriented, which is not what JaMarcus is strong at. Look for lots of Garcia (by week 4), along with a number of flare passes to the backs coming out, lots of love toward Z. Miller and Johnnie Lee on crossing routes
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IS ANYONE CONFIDENT THAT JEFF GARCIA COULD TAKE THIS TEAM DEEP INTO THE PLAYOFFS OR POSSIBLY TO THE SUPER BOWL? And if he can do it here…why couldn’t he do it in Tampa, which was a better team?
If your team is ready to make that deep playoff run/Super Bowl run…then play that veteran and see if you can strike gold in the next 3yrs…
If your team is rebuilding and young…you better be grooming the QB of the future or you are just wasting time. What do you get for playing an aged veteran on a team full of young players? The Detroit Lions with Jon Kitna! Or all those K.C Chiefs teams?
Developing a franchise QB is the most important endeavor for a young rebuilding team. YOU CAN’T WIN CONSISTENTLY WITHOUT A FRANCHISE QB! Also, teams RARELY give up QBs that have top tier talent.
Folks. This is not the 70’s and 80’s where you can find scrap heap guys and plug them in. Teams are too smart for that now. And spare me the Kerry Collins example. That team is screwed and will be 5-11 in a year or two when they have no QB ready to go. SAme with Arizona when Warner retires at the end of the year.
Yet the Patriots, Giants, Eagles, Colts, Steelers keep on plugging away.
Again Raider fans. Dare to be great! Stop trying to win with stopgaps, and work-arounds. It doesn’t work.
JaMarcus Russl
August 5th, 2009 at 7:04 am
Garcia is 39yrs old Rockstar. What happens if he starts for the next 2 yrs,…What’s more likely to happen?
Maybe a spirited 7-9 run? Great! What about 2010…hey, maybe even a 9-7 / 10-6…
Then at 41 yrs old he retires. Then what? Think Nnamdi or any other vets will want to re-up with another young QB…or are you looking forward to signing a reinvigorated Rex Grossman or JP Losman from the UFL.
That’s how 6yr stretches of B.S are formed.
Gotta develop Russell. There is no choice. Hell, develop Charlie Frye if necessary. But relying on a 39yr old QB with a ver middling track record is the ultimnate in STUPIDITY!
I, for one, am tired of losing!
August 5th, 2009 at 7:09 am
Sorry, I am fired up this morning.
Two years ago the Raiders WASTED EVERYONES TIME with Josh McCown and Daunte Culpepper. What did the Raiders get for that? 4-12…whooohoooo!
Perhaps Walter should have been given the nod. See what we have. Damn shame him getting signed immediately by the Patriots. Yet another example of the Raiders wasting its youth.
How about playing Ashlie Lelie and Ronald Curry over Chaz Schilens and Johnnie Lee Higgins. What did we get for that move? 5-11….Yet another example of the Raiders wasting its youth.
How about playing LaMont Jordan and a slew of mediocre backs over Justin Fargas? What did we get for that? 5-11 and wasting the talent Fargas may have had in those young legs back then.
Just stupid. If you are not a high impact veteran…then play the high potential youth (if you have it)
August 5th, 2009 at 7:11 am
139 and 140.
Good points about the quarterback. I never said I WANTED to see Jeff Garcia taking the starting snaps (personally, I think he’s taking way too much time off during camp, so far) and we DO need to develop a young quarterback as our leader. JaMarcus SHOULD be that guy — so far, though, he hasn’t seemed to want to grab the brass ring. I am hopeful that we can develop a good vertical passing attack — that will depend upon the offensive line (I STILL THINK WE SHOULD HAVE DRAFTED EUGENE MONROE!) and the continued work of the receiving corps. All year, DHB will be measured against both Crabtree and Macklin, but SF doesn’t have a QB either! Adding Tollner should help …
August 5th, 2009 at 7:17 am
NATION, What is UP???????
Continuity, The head coach should be given time to build this program back to respectability.
Continuity, The QB needs soild good coaches = Tollner Hackett, and not some also rans. Tollner shaped steve young in college.
Continuity, Playing your BEST atheletes, and the BEST only.
August 5th, 2009 at 7:19 am
raidertbone Says:
August 5th, 2009 at 7:11 am
139 and 140.
JaMarcus SHOULD be that guy — so far, though, he hasn’t seemed to want to grab the brass ring. I am hopeful that we can develop a good vertical passing attack — that will depend upon the offensive line (I STILL THINK WE SHOULD HAVE DRAFTED EUGENE MONROE!) and the continued work of the receiving corps. All year, DHB will be measured against both Crabtree and Macklin, but SF doesn’t have a QB either! Adding Tollner should help …
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JaMarcus Russell has started one FULL year. One…His 1st year was a washout because of the holdout. When Russell lost that holdout year, he couldn’t practice with the team during the season, wasn’t getting reps, and could not get the full attention from the coaches on playbook, fundamentals and such. He lost the year entirely.
In his 1st year as a starter…the guy had his ups and downs on a DEEPLY FLAWED TEAM AND ORGANIZATION. Coaches were fighting owners….owners fighting coaches….3 playcallers…and generally poor NFL coaching talent….and terrible players around him.
This guy was his left tackle
http://web.splashcast.net/web_watch/?episodes=2006+Kwame+and+Derek+Episode+Player&code=ZHAC9804LJ
The kid played very well down the stretch and pieced together some good games…just had some awful ones too. He flashed enough to be optimistic this year. ANd now he’s carrying himself like the leader he needs to be
August 5th, 2009 at 7:21 am
I am not going to question the intelect of my NATION brethren, we all know what insanity is right.
Past years have some great lessons learned. The mistakes we have made in past years should
prove as a training ground for improvment.
To position yourself to win you need to put your BEST ATHELETES on the field, even if it means at the same time…..
August 5th, 2009 at 7:22 am
When Shanahan arrived in Denver people said John Elway wasn’t a fit for the so-called “West Coast” Offense, he wasn’t accurate enough they said, seems to me it worked just fine.
Denver built a strong running game based on the zone blocking scheme and Elway thrived as he didn’t have to carry the load himself, yet teams were forced to respect his arm as he could make any throw at anytime.
Sounds familiar?…
August 5th, 2009 at 7:23 am
raidertbone Says:
August 5th, 2009 at 7:11 am
139 and 140.
(I STILL THINK WE SHOULD HAVE DRAFTED EUGENE MONROE!) and the continued work of the receiving corps. All year, DHB will be measured against both Crabtree and Macklin, but SF doesn’t have a QB either! Adding Tollner should help
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I thought the Raiders should have drafted someone other than DHB. So be it. Davis BELIEVES in him. DHB will be measured against the results he puts on the field. All the other stuff is noise. Either he gets it and flourishes or doesn’t and fades into the background.
However, DHB doesn’t need to be the man this year. Schilens and JLH built something in the last few games with Russell and look better this year. Plus Miller, DMAC more in the passing game will help.
Who cares what Crabtree does. The Raiders didn’t need his skillsets as they believe Schilens provides that and more.
August 5th, 2009 at 7:24 am
Marley, what up Bro long time…….. Good Post 147.
August 5th, 2009 at 7:25 am
On our way to 9-7 boys!
Russell taking charge of the media and the team, DHB getting rid of those top 10 jitters, “Mad Mike” Mitchell is looking fluid in coverage and popped a 4th stringer just for giggles. Same old story with Huff I guess (too bad, I was hoping he’d step up), DMAC is just The MAN, and serious WR battles goings on, LT spot is locked with Mario, and Ellis was an upgrade (like I thought he would be) in the run game.
9-7!
JAVON WALKER COMEBACK PLAYER OF THE YEAR!
31-21 RAIDAH’S! SEPT 14TH!
DRINK UP NATION!
August 5th, 2009 at 7:26 am
But you are talking about Denver after they already did it, if the Raiders build off of that same modle and succeed then ppl will say the same thing about us.
If not they will continue to bash us in the media, its the nature of the beast.
Look at it this way, ppl say that any media coverage is good media coverage, ppl are tlaking about us which is good. If we improve and show we can compete consistantly then it wont be bashing, it will be praise like it was when we were winning.
We just have to wait and see…
August 5th, 2009 at 7:29 am
Hey Thec
Yeah, it’s been awhile..gotta run, later.
August 5th, 2009 at 7:30 am
Marley, Be go Bro……
1 NATION
August 5th, 2009 at 7:31 am
Morning nation!!! Sounds like all is weel in campland!! DHB looking good M&M looking good!!! GOTTA LOVE IT!!!!!
PLAYOFFBOUND!!!!!
August 5th, 2009 at 7:35 am
RAIDER ON OAK!
August 5th, 2009 at 7:35 am
good morning S&B, AZ, Marley, Thec …
August 5th, 2009 at 7:36 am
good morning Headbutt, OAKlifer …
August 5th, 2009 at 7:39 am
I hope, hope, hope that we really get the vertical passing game going — I would like to put up some really big numbers against the StuperChargers, the Squaws and the Buncos before we head into that tough stretch with Houston, the Giants and Philly. If we can emerge from all that and be 3-3 and still have JaMarcus as our starter, I think we’re in line for a pretty good season.
BTW, does anyone else out there think we need a good, experienced GM?
August 5th, 2009 at 7:40 am
HAHA Cromartie got fined for talking about the “nasty food”.
August 5th, 2009 at 7:41 am
Hey Snb,
You brought up good points! Its getting close, its good to have someone fired up! I believe we are ALL tired of losing. Due to financial reasons, this may be my last year of owning season tickets. Hopefully, its a great year!
August 5th, 2009 at 7:42 am
Yes we need a GM, Al has his place in history, I’m not his biggest fan but you cant take that away from him.
But he even said last year he needs front office help and he still didnt get it, he didnt take his own advice!
August 5th, 2009 at 7:43 am
RR, What up Brethren???????
BRANCH and MITCHELL……..
August 5th, 2009 at 7:44 am
Wow, Eli Manning gets $15 million a year? I wonder what Peyton is thinking? Ahh, who cares…go Raiders!
August 5th, 2009 at 7:45 am
Good morning nation!!! We will all be able to taste the kool aide in a week or so with preseason under way, though I do love what im hearing so far!
August 5th, 2009 at 7:45 am
Would be good to have a GREAT GM….
August 5th, 2009 at 7:47 am
Cromartie got fined — that’s rich! I guess the Chargers should probably stop having their training camp catered by Denny’s!
August 5th, 2009 at 7:48 am
I love how players have really no freedom of speach
August 5th, 2009 at 7:49 am
Wow, first morning with registration. Amen. What a nightmare that troll jailbreak was.
Interesting notes above…Wiz as GM? Barnes out til Sept? MR a suckass loser?
So much to discuss.
August 5th, 2009 at 7:50 am
He was fined for basically questioning whether they are getting nasty food because they havnt gotten to the superbowl in recent years
August 5th, 2009 at 7:50 am
Morning RR, Thec, DBW…
Can’t remember the state of the Raiders this time last year. Anyone remember camp last year? Does it feel different?
Anyone….anyone….Bueller…..Bueller…
August 5th, 2009 at 7:51 am
Garcia is 39yrs old Rockstar. What happens if he starts for the next 2 yrs,…What’s more likely to happen?
relying on a 39yr old QB with a ver middling track record is the ultimnate in STUPIDITY!
I, for one, am tired of losing!
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S&B: hey man. how are you doing?
First off, all I want is progress from Russell. I never said Garcia is better, I never said Garcia should start. Look at all my posts dating back to when we initially signed Garcia if you wish. Garcia is the best backup QB in the league and he is proven. Right now Russell is still unproven, but he’s got unlimited potential. He is the face and the future of this franchise.
I didn’t sign Jeff Garcia, the guy who wants to start and is only 1 year removed from a playoff birth and a pro bowl. Davis & Cable did. don’t hate on me bro!
If Russell gets hurt or falls flat on his face, I can see Garcia inserted at the bye week. Al Davis wants to win now. That is also why Heyward-Bey will have a significant role this year, despite what many others think …
this is what I’d like to see from Russell in Year #2 as a starter and Year #3 in the league …
3200 passing yards, 20 TD’s and fewer fumbles
August 5th, 2009 at 7:51 am
S&B,
!!!!!!
PREACH brother good work!!!!!
August 5th, 2009 at 7:51 am
Players today live in a world of high salaries, high expectations, “what have you done for me lately?” and little to no common sense!
August 5th, 2009 at 7:52 am
HD37 & S&B-D-O-ST. two of my favorite posters on here.
those are exactly my feelings regarding Russell, S&B, and thats why the best people AROUND him should start.
i can debate Fargas vs the other RBs but an improving Russell vs Garcia? in a time where Rothlisberger is quoted as taking it easy on his arm early so he can make it through a season?
crazy
August 5th, 2009 at 7:53 am
The only thing Garcia will be starting will be his car when he leaves Alameada after getting cut… lol
August 5th, 2009 at 7:54 am
Thec07 Says:
August 5th, 2009 at 7:43 am
RR, What up Brethren???????
BRANCH and MITCHELL……..
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You’re probably right Thec….. Too bad, I was hoping Huff could claim the FS spot. Camps not over, and still pre-season for Cable to decide, but I think you might be right. Be weird having such young starting safties, Nnamdi will have to keep them in check… I’m excited about “Mad Mike” though. Can’t wait to see a game speed hit Monday Night Football!!!
August 5th, 2009 at 7:55 am
What’s the latest status on Khalif?
August 5th, 2009 at 7:56 am
Still, I agree with Headbutt…players can’t say anything anymore…
August 5th, 2009 at 7:57 am
good morning BSJ, DBW, NMI, CSTH …
August 5th, 2009 at 7:57 am
Lol Az, RR, BSJ, OAK what’s good fellas! Yeah man I think Jerry needs to keep the registration or sumthing yesterday was unbearable with all the garbage, anyways I like what I hear about branch and mitchell………..all good news especially consistancy with Russell passing the ball
August 5th, 2009 at 7:57 am
what happened to DO NOT HATE ON MY BOY SOUTHWICK?
I haven’t seen many lucid posts since he left!
August 5th, 2009 at 7:58 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
August 5th, 2009 at 7:51 am
Garcia is 39yrs old Rockstar. What happens if he starts for the next 2 yrs,…What’s more likely to happen?
relying on a 39yr old QB with a ver middling track record is the ultimnate in STUPIDITY!
I, for one, am tired of losing!
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S&B: hey man. how are you doing?
First off, all I want is progress from Russell. I never said Garcia is better, I never said Garcia should start. Look at all my posts dating back to when we initially signed Garcia if you wish. Garcia is the best backup QB in the league and he is proven.
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Rockstar,
Isn’t it safe to say since Andrew Walter signed with the Pats., He is now the best back-up in the league? LOL…
JK
August 5th, 2009 at 8:00 am
Too bad, I was hoping Huff could claim the FS spot. Camps not over, and still pre-season for Cable to decide
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whoa AZ! did h3ll freeze over?
I thought Jhill and I (and of course Kirk & Nnamdi) were the only Huff supporters on the planet !?!
August 5th, 2009 at 8:01 am
How bad do you think we would actually have to be come week 10 for Garcia to take the reigns?
August 5th, 2009 at 8:03 am
Na Rockstar, remember we had that argument already LOL… I was trying to tell you I was just disapointed and this was his make or break year with me… I said I’d slap a bust tag on him if he couldn’t get it together this year, not that he was a bust already.
I remember you thought I was Huff-bashing, and I was just voicing my disapointment.
RAIDER ON!
9-7! BABY!
August 5th, 2009 at 8:05 am
Raider Headbutt Says:
August 5th, 2009 at 8:01 am
How bad do you think we would actually have to be come week 10 for Garcia to take the reigns?
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We’d have to loose 6-8 in a row, and it have to be alot of the offenses fault. If the O is scoring points and our Defense folds, Russell will continue to be the starter…
August 5th, 2009 at 8:07 am
# RaiderRockstar Says:
August 5th, 2009 at 7:57 am
what happened to DO NOT HATE ON MY BOY SOUTHWICK?
I haven’t seen many lucid posts since he left!
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wassup RaiderRock.
i thought that was BSJ no?
August 5th, 2009 at 8:07 am
Isn’t it safe to say since Andrew Walter signed with the Pats., He is now the best back-up in the league?
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I know you’re only joking, but I don’t see AW beating out Kevin O’Connell to be Tom Brady’s backup. Andrew Walter will challenge Julian Edelman (7th round rookie QB from Kent State) for 3rd string in New England…
August 5th, 2009 at 8:09 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
August 5th, 2009 at 8:00 am
Too bad, I was hoping Huff could claim the FS spot. Camps not over, and still pre-season for Cable to decide
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whoa AZ! did h3ll freeze over?
I thought Jhill and I (and of course Kirk & Nnamdi) were the only Huff supporters on the planet !?!
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I’ve always had the HuckelBerry Huff flavor!!!
I say give the kid ONE posistion and ONE coach/coord that knows how to teach and let him rip this kid is a stud I know its a boom or bust buisness but to go in the top 10 you have some talent!!!
FREE MIKE HUFF!!!!!!
PLAYOFFBOUND!!!!!
August 5th, 2009 at 8:11 am
I don’t know man I think walter has to goods to be back up in N.E. Especially with that line and recievers they have he didn’t stand a chance here
August 5th, 2009 at 8:12 am
“but I don’t see AW beating out Kevin O’Connell to be Tom Brady’s backup.”
LOL who Kevin O’Connel the fat kid from stand by me?!?!?!
LOL he didnt break any of Elways records hEl! he even forgot the comb!!!!!!!!
AW will have brady’s “backup” job in no time!!!!
August 5th, 2009 at 8:13 am
CSTH, no way man. I don’t see it
DO NOT HATE ON MY BOY SOUTHWICK is a better bigger man and better person than BSJ. His posts were always on point and more importantly – lucid.
in comparison, BSJ subbing for DO NOT HATE ON MY BOY SOUTHWICK is like Sasha Vujacic coming in for Kobe Bryant!
August 5th, 2009 at 8:14 am
So 2-8 possibly worse is what it would take for garcia to be in assuming its the fault of the O?
The first 3 games of this year are going to set the standard for what we are going to be this year, they better come out firing against them.
August 5th, 2009 at 8:15 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
August 5th, 2009 at 7:57 am
what happened to DO NOT HATE ON MY BOY SOUTHWICK?
I haven’t seen many lucid posts since he left!
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I can’t go slumming for too long. Its like crossing your eyes…could get stuck that way!
August 5th, 2009 at 8:16 am
sorry i meant 2-6*
August 5th, 2009 at 8:16 am
who Kevin O’Connel the fat kid from stand by me?!?!?!
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LOL! no …
the Pats drafted him in the 3rd Round last year out of San Diego State. I bet Raider O knows who he is
August 5th, 2009 at 8:19 am
Isn’t Kevin O’Connel Danny Southwicks Bother-in-Law?
August 5th, 2009 at 8:20 am
Raider first preseason game is a week from tomorrow!
Mike Mitchell is gonna lay out Jason Witten & Roy Williams …
August 5th, 2009 at 8:20 am
I agree Oak remember the Hoodie aways gets his man!
August 5th, 2009 at 8:20 am
Wassup folks …
I also said may the best man win. Still not counting Huff out as long as he is in competition with Eugene. If Mitchell starts getting reps at FS, then it’s over.
August 5th, 2009 at 8:21 am
3-1 or 4-0 is what we want outta the first 4 weeks!!!
9-7!
DRINK UP!
August 5th, 2009 at 8:22 am
Sucks, my Sunday ticket doesn’t come with Preseason games
Dunno if I’ll get to watch it…
August 5th, 2009 at 8:22 am
Branch, a corner in college, seems to be excelling in coverage at SS.. That will go a LONG way towards him keeping that job.
Wonder who the new STs gunner is going to be?
August 5th, 2009 at 8:23 am
AZ,
all the preseason games are on NFLN
August 5th, 2009 at 8:25 am
LOL @ Cornell Green holding down the RT spot. All these Ts that were brought in to unseat him, and he’s still outplaying them.
I see you Cornbread!
August 5th, 2009 at 8:25 am
All the preseason games are on NFLN but not all of them are live games I dont beleive
August 5th, 2009 at 8:26 am
Do you really see Morrison or Brown on the sidelines much?
August 5th, 2009 at 8:27 am
Yeah Az that 3-1 seems reasonable we have to take care of business week 1 and we all know what S.D. Will do……stack the line to stop the run we have to make them respect our speed out there with our WRs
August 5th, 2009 at 8:28 am
Morrison attempted to blitz Russell with to his left, only to have Cornell Green pick it up perfectly and wall him off. – Jerry Mac
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good morning Jhill. Agreed. maybe the mop handle incident was a wake up call for Cornfed?
Either that or the scholarship program is still intact and Pears, Wilson, Marten, Wilson, Johnson, etc aren’t even pushing him!
August 5th, 2009 at 8:29 am
I can already see some variation of the 4-3 where Brown and Morrison are both “in the middle” with Howard moving around.
August 5th, 2009 at 8:31 am
There is no scholarship program, lol …
Just ask Mike Huff.
August 5th, 2009 at 8:32 am
Anyone else think the actual team website is horrible and doesnt give much info?
August 5th, 2009 at 8:32 am
Wonder who the new STs gunner is going to be?
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the ST didn’t drop off at all last year w/o Tyvon Branch in there. Isaiah Ekejiuba & Jon Alston are ST beasts. Tony Stewart & Sam Williams did pretty well too. Jerome Boyd has been getting reps as ST gunner, but he’s a SS and I highly doubt we’re keeping 3 on the roster unless either Branch or Mitchell gets moved to FS and Huff gets axed
August 5th, 2009 at 8:33 am
jhill Says:
August 5th, 2009 at 8:23 am
AZ,
all the preseason games are on NFLN
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Yeah, but not all of them LIVE. Huge Cowboys fan base here so maybe I’ll get the first one LIVE…
August 5th, 2009 at 8:34 am
Raider Headbutt Says:
August 5th, 2009 at 8:32 am
Anyone else think the actual team website is horrible and doesnt give much info?
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2nd that LOL…. I never even go to the Raiders site!
August 5th, 2009 at 8:35 am
I want to see Routt beat out C Johnson for that spot opposite Nnamdi. Routt is so much better on the outside than he is on the inside. It’s not even close. He is a liability on the slot WRs, where I think Johnson would be much better.
August 5th, 2009 at 8:35 am
DirtyBathWater Says:
August 5th, 2009 at 8:27 am
Yeah Az that 3-1 seems reasonable we have to take care of business week 1 and we all know what S.D. Will do……stack the line to stop the run we have to make them respect our speed out there with our WRs
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First offensive snap should be PA DEEEEEEEEEP!!!!
August 5th, 2009 at 8:36 am
LOL. Huff has never been on scholarship. I guess he wasn’t eligible?
the pics of him & Vince Young drunk & topless probably disqualified him …
August 5th, 2009 at 8:36 am
The only thing you get on the site is the “Behind the Shield” interviews and they dont even talk about football.
I dont care about whats the one thing they miss the most when they are at training camp! gimme some news.
August 5th, 2009 at 8:38 am
Great point about the website. I think it goes hand in hand with their public relations policies in general. I think they are missing the mark of this big time. Like everyone who posts here wouldn’t rather be posting on the official website? Like a lot of folks don’t want access to the players and practices?
August 5th, 2009 at 8:39 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
who Kevin O’Connel the fat kid from stand by me?!?!?!
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No his name is Mr. Rebecca Romijn.
August 5th, 2009 at 8:40 am
“You know, he’s a real confident guy and he’s talking a lot of trash lately… Not to me, but you know to the DB’s. So guys are, guys are expecting a little bit more out of him right now so that he can back up what he’s saying. You know I guess — I don’t know if he’s struggling, but he’s still trying to get into a groove.” — cornerback Nnamdi Asomugha on Heyward-Bey.
-DWhite
August 5th, 2009 at 8:40 am
First offensive snap should be PA DEEEEEEEEEP!!!!
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LOL AZ,
I think they just might be looking for that.
August 5th, 2009 at 8:42 am
Geez, this is scary…Fargas lined up in the slot:
http://raiderbeat.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/20090804pm-0011.jpg
August 5th, 2009 at 8:43 am
Az I just the thought of that opening play is orgasmic!!!!!! That would be sweet PA deep down the side line to Chaz man I can envision that
August 5th, 2009 at 8:44 am
First offensive play should be DHB going deep, play action screen to DMAC. let the field open up and watch him run.
August 5th, 2009 at 8:48 am
jhill Says:
August 5th, 2009 at 8:40 am
First offensive snap should be PA DEEEEEEEEEP!!!!
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LOL AZ,
I think they just might be looking for that.
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Can’t remember the last time first snap wasn’t Fargas Left or Right side LOl… Kiffin was so predictable.
Figure a 2 TE set and 1 WR we could make ‘em bite. You know they are gonna put 8 in the box
. Schilens on the deep post or Zach across the Middle. hehehehehaaaaaaaaaahhahahwwwwwwww!
August 5th, 2009 at 8:49 am
Thats assuming that DHB starts.
August 5th, 2009 at 8:53 am
First offensive play should be DHB going deep, play action screen to DMAC. let the field open up and watch him run.
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Now you’re talking. you have to bring them up before we can go over the top.
August 5th, 2009 at 8:56 am
I’d like to see DHB line up in the slot from time to time. Interesting to see the matchups that Cable will try and create.
August 5th, 2009 at 8:57 am
Exactly. Let the receivers run down the field, see how they are being played, screen, run a bit bring them close to the line.
They should be anyway because not many ppl care about our passing game yet, then hit them over the top for 6.
August 5th, 2009 at 8:59 am
“He’s getting better and better, day by day. I think he’s a bit jittery. He’d like to do so good to a point where he’s making himself nervous. The best thing for him to do is relax. He knows what to do. He just has to keep going in the right direction.” — quarterback JaMarcus Russell, on rookie wide receiver Darrius Heyward-Bey.
-David White
August 5th, 2009 at 8:59 am
Schilens = 4.4 speed
JLH = 4.4 speed
DHB = 4.2 speed
Walker = 4.4 speed
August 5th, 2009 at 9:00 am
With very little imagination this offense is going to cause some problems. O-line holding up will add to points on the board. It will be for the opposition to experience 3 and outs becuase they now have to pass instead of running.
but wait, BRANCH, and MITCHELL are lurking who wants to catch the ball and get the PI$$ knock out of them????
August 5th, 2009 at 9:00 am
All our wide-outs can run!
August 5th, 2009 at 9:02 am
Absolutely, the biggest thing is accountability right now, we know where we have to fit. We have had two practices in pads, and it was not perfect but there was one thing was there was this almost silent thing where everyone knew that if I did not get it right they need to know why I did not get it right. That is something that is definitely new and needed and welcome.” — linebacker Ricky Brown on what’s different on defense.
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LOL! thats like the 12th person to blame Rob Ryan for a terrible run defense without saying his name …
still think it’s the personnel, S&B?
August 5th, 2009 at 9:02 am
Walker = 4.4 speed
ummm three years ago on two good legs!!!!!
think its more like a two min jog drill once around the track!!!! he dnt even run 40’s anymore!!!
August 5th, 2009 at 9:05 am
“That’s what I do. Today I just wanted to get in there and get a little thud going. I think I did a good job of doing that. Once we start getting live and everything I definitely want to start taking my shots because that’s what I’m known for that’s why I’m here. I want to show people why I was drafted. Obviously Coach Cable told us these are our own teammates, we’re not going to lay out anybody, so right now that’s about the most you’re going to get out of me, a couple thuds. But when it gets live, can’t wait for that 13th next Thursday. That’s when no one is going to be holding me back so I’m going to be fine.” — safety Mike Mitchell on bringing the wood, so to speak.
-David White
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LOL. M&M is gonna knock the p1ss out of Jason Witten & Roy Williams …
August 5th, 2009 at 9:06 am
I hear you AZ, and I’m sure that there will be a route in that play where someone is running deep. I just don’t think that is going to be open on the first play of the game. I have to think that the DC is thinking that we will try and go vertical early, so I see the underneath stuff being open early. Nothing wrong with a nice 8 minute drive to open the game.
August 5th, 2009 at 9:10 am
so I see the underneath stuff being open early. Nothing wrong with a nice 8 minute drive to open the game.
and to get the confidense of j-russ up!!! If he starts the drive 8 for 11 73 yrds and a TD we will be in buisness!!!!
August 5th, 2009 at 9:11 am
GOOD MORNING NATION!!!
I am finally HOOKED-UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
August 5th, 2009 at 9:15 am
4eva good work Brother good to have you back!!!!!
“LOL. M&M is gonna knock the p1ss out of Jason Witten & Roy Williams …”
Romo, felix, and marion as well WATCH the F out M&M is on the prowl!!!!!!!
August 5th, 2009 at 9:15 am
* JaMarcus 12 of 13 with last 3 against a defense.
* 9 straight DHB catches, starring 1-handed grab going out of bounds crashing into pads. Best by far.
-David White (twitter)
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31st ranked pass offense? not this year!
August 5th, 2009 at 9:17 am
good morning 4eva! welcome back bro
coffee & breakfast is on me …
Gabby, get over here girl!
August 5th, 2009 at 9:18 am
Awaiting moderation, ya ok Jerry, after my posts get read by everyone, you then see them and get nervous that all the lemmings in here are beginning to see you more clearly, then you hold them for awaiting moderation?…Jerry, you really have slipped.
August 5th, 2009 at 9:22 am
jhill Says:
August 5th, 2009 at 8:56 am
I’d like to see DHB line up in the slot from time to time. Interesting to see the matchups that Cable will try and create.
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You know what I agree with that. Much like DMAC he is a big play threat, so why not line him around here and there to see how teams adjust.
August 5th, 2009 at 9:24 am
OAKlifer Says:
August 5th, 2009 at 9:02 am
Walker = 4.4 speed
ummm three years ago on two good legs!!!!!
think its more like a two min jog drill once around the track!!!! he dnt even run 40’s anymore!!!
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Na he’s a vet, he doesn’t have to run 40’s LOL! But, trust me, I think he’s got something left in the tank, and I’d bet he could run a 4.46 right NOW! Its kool-aid but hey…. It’s AZ talking here LOL!
9-7!
JAVON WALKER COMEBACK PLAYER OF THE YEAR!
You can say you heard it from AZ first!
DRINK IT!
August 5th, 2009 at 9:24 am
what’s up Bobby? glad to see you got your name back …
whats the scoop on Southwick (the intern) ?
August 5th, 2009 at 9:25 am
Norco Bob Says:
August 5th, 2009 at 9:18 am
Hey bob just curious?!?!?! Was that bobertsIV a shill phoney scaming fake or was that you getting around the ban???
Either way good day to you raider fan!!
August 5th, 2009 at 9:25 am
thankx Rockstar!!!
its great 2B back
August 5th, 2009 at 9:27 am
“Na he’s a vet, he doesn’t have to run 40’s LOL! But, trust me, I think he’s got something left in the tank, and I’d bet he could run a 4.46 right NOW! Its kool-aid but hey…. It’s AZ talking here LOL!”
KOOL-AID Pimp in tha house!!!!! we drinkin brother!!!!
I hope Javon establishes him self early and contributes to our young core of WR’s Im on board!!!!
PLAYOFFBOUND!!!!
August 5th, 2009 at 9:27 am
sup Bob?!?!?!
August 5th, 2009 at 9:30 am
“The Procter & Gamble Co. and National Football League are teaming up in a major new sponsorship deal.”
You all ready to see Eli and Peyton doing some Gillette shaver commercials with Jeter, Tiger, and Fed?
August 5th, 2009 at 9:30 am
Johnnie Lee said in a locker room Q&A last year that Javon was a great help to him in tuning his recieving skills… that’s gotta count for something. Walkers comments last week show some confidence.
Think is we had 2004 Javon Walker back (or close to it)
-Schilens
-Darriuss Heyward-Bey
-Johnnie Lee
-And Murphy…
you could actually call us “deep” at WR LOL!
9-7!
53 MEN AND COUNTLESS FANS COMMITTED TO ONE PURPOSE!
DRINK UP!
August 5th, 2009 at 9:35 am
Wow. The Kool-Aid is flowin’ in here! Nothing like a couple of good practises to get the juices flowing. Hope the players keep it up.
August 5th, 2009 at 9:37 am
Whew, glad to hear DHB can catch…still waiting to see if he can catch in games though…I mean this practice could have been an aberration….schit, even Shaq hit 10 free throws in a row a couple of times!
Come on DHB!!!!!
August 5th, 2009 at 9:38 am
53 MEN AND COUNTLESS FANS COMMITTED TO ONE PURPOSE!
I love it KA pimp!!!
Keep up the good work!!!!!!
That is a slogan to stand by!!! “me”
August 5th, 2009 at 9:39 am
Welcome back 4eva I know uve been itching to get in on the action!
August 5th, 2009 at 9:40 am
You know how da Koola-Aid Pimp do! LOL!
PLAYOFF BOUND!
August 5th, 2009 at 9:41 am
itching like crazy DBW!!!
August 5th, 2009 at 9:42 am
Seabass hits the left upright . . . his skill in this area is unrivaled.~jerry mac tweet!!
Bye fare the best update and observation of our young season yes no body smashes the uprights like Jano!!!!!
“I said laces out Dan”
PLAYOFFBOUND!!!!
August 5th, 2009 at 9:48 am
Good mornin Raider Men!
August 5th, 2009 at 9:50 am
# AZ Raider Says:
August 5th, 2009 at 8:59 am
Schilens = 4.4 speed
JLH = 4.4 speed
DHB = 4.2 speed
Walker = 4.4 speed
^^^^^^Murphy has 4.4 speed as well….
August 5th, 2009 at 9:51 am
If we wanted further evidence that Yvonne Walker is on the road to recovery, Drew Rosenhaus recently tweeted:
We are excited to announce that we have re-signed Javon Walker of the Raiders as a client. It is great to have Javon back in the RSR family!
If RSR are prepared and happy to resign Walker, that is probably a sign that his head is together. RSR tend to stay away from the real fruitcakes.
August 5th, 2009 at 9:53 am
Lol I can’t wait to see MM live in preseason, man have we been longing for a intimidator on the D for a long time now. He talks the talk of a intimidator im ready for him to lay out a WR and a TE
August 5th, 2009 at 9:54 am
Morning Dell, DK007
man this place starts poppin when the season starts!!!! it was crazy in here a few weeks ago we went through every BS secnario from trading for Wilfork to Southwick starting but now it seems to have settled doen into some good raider smash mouth blogging “what ever that is”!!! But Im down for it and its good to see all the brethran in here not just the AM crew!!!!!
PLAYOFFBOUND!!!!!
Javon CBPOTY I heard it from AZ first!!!!
August 5th, 2009 at 9:54 am
Opening night. Raiders destroy SD defense behind 375 yards on the ground, the phrase “BushMacked” is born!
August 5th, 2009 at 9:58 am
RobG,…be careful of expectations on opening night,..Iv seen what the chargers do to the raiders up close…if we come out of that game with any respectability I will be shocked….put it to you this way, the chargers are starting the season exactly the way they want…this is the opponent they would have asked for….hope Im wrong on outcome but really doubt it,..so when the games over and you all see I was right, dont throw in towel, its a long season and we will be better in the end then the beginning,..but dont count on opening night win. Keeping it real.
August 5th, 2009 at 9:59 am
RSR tend to stay away from the real fruitcakes.
ummmm LOL attemepted suicide fake attempts, playing basketball during interveiws, throwing popcorn around droppin 4 outta 5 balls………yeah RSR tend to stay away from the real fruitcakes.
imho that snake wants the $$$$$ and if TO or a rejuvinated one time probowler brings in tha cash so be fruitcake or not!! this guy is like the M Cuban of football except he dnt own a team he owns the players!!!
August 5th, 2009 at 10:02 am
Narco,
“hoever asked me if I was some bobert or something, nope,..this name is the only one Iv ever used, I of course, being the most popular in here, get mimics following me alot,….”
This guy was spot on then!!! bobertsIV he even tried to tellus about his sideline access and “insider” all the time Either way keeping it real is always good brother but WE WILL PREVAIL!!!!
“I know nothing of Southwick”
How ever this statement has lost you a lot of credibility……….any one with an insider would know this kid!!!
August 5th, 2009 at 10:03 am
Opening night is a set up.
National TV against the sweetheart Chargers.
The team that has our number.
We are a young team with a new coaching staff.
Don’t expect that game to be our turning point.
I expect this team to gel about 4-5 games in.
If we are 2-3 at that point I’ll be happy.
But be ready for the I told you so media to jump on this team and it’s young stars opening night.
Oh and a National “Al has lost it” infomercial.
August 5th, 2009 at 10:06 am
Okay, maybe the odd fruitcake. But RSR certainly love the $$$$$ and Rosenhaus must think that Walker is capable of earning them a few. Does his restructured contract have significant performance bonuses? Suspect so.
August 5th, 2009 at 10:10 am
Hey oaklifer
August 5th, 2009 at 10:10 am
we sure got a lot of safeties . huff , branch are afst but too little and soft . m.mitchell is a raw player from a small school . needs good coaching. hope our coaches are good . cuz they have sucked since 2002
August 5th, 2009 at 10:11 am
we got playoff potential
August 5th, 2009 at 10:11 am
250. Hell no! I’m sick of seeing the Mannings hock everything on Sunday. Plus Payton is a real jackarse and aloof, and has probably been that way all his life. On a side note, I did security for the Colts during the Superbowl…had to break up a game of dice in Bob Sanders room the night before the big game…he was really cool about it. After the Colts won the game he saw me guarding the stairwell exit by his room and said, ‘Is it alright if a Superbowl Champion plays dice in his room tonight?”
One more thing about Peyton. Dude didn’t even celebrate with his team. He had his own private Superbowl party. What an ARSE!
August 5th, 2009 at 10:11 am
I love the Kwame show!!!!
All the tools, big, fast, smart.
No hint of violence in his hands.
Probably a real “nice guy” though.
August 5th, 2009 at 10:13 am
Can you believe it i was registering and someone took the name treyrockstar :0
August 5th, 2009 at 10:13 am
Kwame looks like he’s patting down at the airport.
August 5th, 2009 at 10:14 am
Tom Brady = 4x Peyton manning
August 5th, 2009 at 10:16 am
Any of you guys see that Adrian Peterson commercial on the nflnetwork?
August 5th, 2009 at 10:16 am
Hey Double R,
Even if bobby had a shill in here that lil fella was doing a great job!!!
August 5th, 2009 at 10:17 am
I’ve seen every commercial on NFLN at least 2000 times LOL.
53 MEN, COUNTLESS FANS, ….ONE PURPOSE!
DRINK IT!
PLAYOFBOUND!
9-7!
August 5th, 2009 at 10:18 am
treyrockstarespn Says:
August 5th, 2009 at 10:16 am
Any of you guys see that Adrian Peterson commercial on the nflnetwork?
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You mean the one when he is running in slow motion at the camara? And says something about him being ready or something?
I love the one of DMAC better running into the stadium lol
August 5th, 2009 at 10:18 am
Oaklifer,..how about you get a life?…like I care what a Napa arm is up to besides spelling the real qb`s,…the best you have to offer is your curiousity about southwick?…sad,..change name to oakneedsalifer
August 5th, 2009 at 10:20 am
Oaklifer = oaklifer
August 5th, 2009 at 10:21 am
Thanks Trey!!1 did I get a shout On bspn lastnight?? I even watched the commercial like I said!! B4 you ask!
NO DID NOT!!!! I just watched it the turned off the TV!!
but could I get a few more shout outs when you get a minute!! shout out lil ol bobby to his pills havnt kicked in and he is becoming iritable real fast!!!
I know bob dial up sucks id be pissssed to!!!
August 5th, 2009 at 10:23 am
Whats dial up?
August 5th, 2009 at 10:23 am
hey im doin a trivia , umm, who pardoned patty hurst . which president ?
August 5th, 2009 at 10:24 am
Take a look at this gentlemen…
http://www.nfl.com/nflnetwork/networkschedule?selectedMonth=August&field=selectedDate&selectedDate=08%2F13%2F2009
Something to watch on Tv that night!
August 5th, 2009 at 10:26 am
we got the best bar be cue here in memphis . da best strip clubs too
August 5th, 2009 at 10:27 am
Sowwy oaklifer, we decided to repeatedly show the birthday cake to the face. Tom Brady
August 5th, 2009 at 10:27 am
should we hold a candle light vigil 4 andrew walter ?
August 5th, 2009 at 10:28 am
“Whats dial up?”
the only internet connection down in brein’s mom/grandmas garage you know the sound
eeeeeee…..crrrr..sshhhhhbbbeeepppp…..beeeperrrr….caashhhh… then boom you google home page shows up!!!
August 5th, 2009 at 10:29 am
Lifer,..unsure your point, maybe it got lost in that poor typing…can you possibly get an adult to type it for you?…thanks.
August 5th, 2009 at 10:30 am
BTW guys ADRIAN WAS RUNNING TOWARDS ME!!!!!
August 5th, 2009 at 10:30 am
norco bob , oaklifer wut is this you tube ? why the internet fighting ?
August 5th, 2009 at 10:31 am
Two words for you BOB: Norv Turner.
I think we can all agree that in his first year he had Marty’s team and they played like Marty’s team. The second year, not so much. They were losing games with everyone healthy for most of the year aside from Merriman and LT being slightly injured, with that level of talent offensively the loss of a guy on defense is no excuse for how the Chargers played throughout the season..unless you’re a team coached by Norv Turner, who has experience coaching teams to sub .500 records.
This year you will see the Charges for what the real are, a Norv Turner coached football team that will take on a shell shocked appearance on MNF from the “Bushmacking” they get.
That’s my “Expectation” BOB!
August 5th, 2009 at 10:31 am
Sowwy oaklifer, we decided to repeatedly show the birthday cake to the face. Tom Brady
ahh its all good bro!!! Brady and the Pats get all the love I’m sure AW will be the next best thing since the sliced bread now that he will jump start his career in NE!!! Laughable if you ask me!!! I hate the Pats!!!!!
Dorin,
I know we had a rough go around butI am truley Jealous of you being able to eat southern food anytime you want!!! The South just knows about BBQ thats al there is to it!!!
PLAYOFFBOUND!!!!!
August 5th, 2009 at 10:32 am
president clinton pardoned patty hurst ?
August 5th, 2009 at 10:33 am
Thanks raiderheadbutt can’t wait for the legends of follies to come on, I certainly will have my popcorn ready.
August 5th, 2009 at 10:33 am
RaiderRobG Says:
August 5th, 2009 at 10:31 am
Two words for you BOB: Norv Turner.
I think we can all agree that in his first year he had Marty’s team and they played like Marty’s team. The second year, not so much. They were losing games with everyone healthy for most of the year aside from Merriman and LT being slightly injured, with that level of talent offensively the loss of a guy on defense is no excuse for how the Chargers played throughout the season..unless you’re a team coached by Norv Turner, who has experience coaching teams to sub .500 records.
This year you will see the Charges for what the real are, a Norv Turner coached football team that will take on a shell shocked appearance on MNF from the “Bushmacking” they get.
That’s my “Expectation” BOB!
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Chargers rein in the AFC west ends, Sept. 14th 2009!
53 PLAYERS, COUNTLESS FAN, …ONE PURPOSE!
9-7!
DRINK UP!
August 5th, 2009 at 10:35 am
…can you possibly get an adult to type it for you?…thanks.
grammer police him self!!! yes I will and could you copy and paste stuff in a word document so you can spell check????
No this isnt youtube WE are glad to have Bob backhe was a stable to this blog and was taken away for far to long!!! his shill did ok but just not the same!!!!
August 5th, 2009 at 10:35 am
da greatest night of my life , at a strip club in south memphis , plate of juicy rib tips in my hand , beer in other hand , pretty chick in lap , raiders beating cowboys on the big screen , tupac bumpin over the loud speakers . true story – the good ol days
August 5th, 2009 at 10:35 am
I was actually talking about the pre season game if you were to scroll down the page…you know the one with the cowboys and raiders?
August 5th, 2009 at 10:36 am
Chargers rein in the AFC west ends, Sept. 14th 2009!
53 PLAYERS, COUNTLESS FAN, …ONE PURPOSE!
9-7!
DRINK UP!
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YESSSSIRRRR!!!!!!
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nice point made bout turner in post 297 this guy is a good offensive coord at best not a head coach he has proved it time and time again!!!
PLAYOFFBOUND!!!!!!!!!
August 5th, 2009 at 10:38 am
hey guys , i ride a kawasaki ninja 250 09 version .. does this make me a douche bag ?
August 5th, 2009 at 10:38 am
It’s been a very long time since I’ve heard someone talk like Mike Mitchell. If his kid is anything like what he says he is. WOW!! WOW!!
When I saw his youtube tape I was awestruck, I had to watch it 4 or 5 times to see if I saw what I thought I saw. Like I said when I commented after seeing it. He looks like a fast Ronnie Lott. Great angles, great ball reaction, great makeup speed and those hits were off the chain.
All he has to do is learn his position and get a feel for the speed at this level. ONce he start sizing guy’s up and measuring them. He is going to be a beast. You don’t come into this league with that kind of confidence unless you are very sure of yourself.
G Atkinson used to say that hwen he hit people he was hitting through them and Jack was the most lethal hitter I ever saw. This kid reminds me of both.
And it also appears that Branch is a lock for the SS position he’s covering TE’s like Huff and is much more physical. Huff looks like he’s a dead man walking. You have to make a statement in these practices in order to get the coaches attention. The same way Rickey Brown is making a statement. He’s forcing the coaches to look at his play as a viable option and a solution to a huge problem. Huff is not doing that.
August 5th, 2009 at 10:41 am
Who cares about preseason when we can watch good ol’ fashion follies
August 5th, 2009 at 10:42 am
hey guys , i ride a kawasaki ninja 250 09 version .. does this make me a douche bag ?
is it yellow or red then yes!!!!
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Bob I dnt need the life bro I aint reading 5 year old posts!!!!
Norco Bob Says:
July 21st 2005 at 10:29 am
Kerry Collins and Randy moss are not only going to take us to the promise land, but after they do I’m going to molest an animal, just for the fun of it! Anybody have a pet llama?
is this guy stalking you????
August 5th, 2009 at 10:42 am
LT has lost a step, Sproles is pretty hard, but “Mad Mike” is pissed at him, so don’t try and take it to the sideline darren LOL, Shawne is back but my kool-aid drinkin gut tells me the Oline is much improved, and Gates is gonna get injured before regular season (via kool-aid crystal ball).
I expect to air it out Monday night. Cables gonna pull out all the stops for the first game. Gadget plays and onside kicks and ALL!
WE ARE COMMITTED CABLE! BANG OUT A 1-0 WIN! WE NEEDS IT MY PRECIOUS!
9-7!
August 5th, 2009 at 10:43 am
The roster is starting to take shape, some quick takes;
Marquis Cooper still on the 80-man roster, I wonder how long Al holds that spot for him. I am sure he will keep 53 “living” players for the season but who knows; Al is batshoot crazy after all.
I see 5 groups within the 80-man roster right now:
Mortal Locks: Players that are not going anywhere; due to performance, large contracts or both, these guys are the future of the team and there is a 0% chance that they get cut.
Sure Things: I would be SHOCKED if any of these guys got cut, but there is a slight chance, like 1%.
Core Players: These are the starters and super-subs that make up most of the 45-man active roster. But age, injury, or pending replacement might cause a few of these guys to be expendable
On the Fence: These guys are fighting for a spot on the 53-man roster, last years’s PS players, career back-ups, etc. I would say this list also includes Michael Huff who is in his sink or swim training camp
Fringe Players: undrafted rookies, nobodies from Free-Agency, future practice squad scrubs. This list also includes the infamous John Bowie who has not been able to show any merit through two seasons.
August 5th, 2009 at 10:43 am
m.mitchell could be sumtin special . we always get freaky players like d.russel . he was like one of the strongest players in league history . then theres napolean kaufman . 4.3 speed , bench press 5oo , 39 inch vert = ridiculous person . then theres langston walker = could eat 45 hot wings in one sitting
August 5th, 2009 at 10:44 am
As for the grammar police, who cares if a word isn’t spelled correctly? Is this a blog or an essay? Could you not think of an insult on oaklifer so you have to check his spelling? Norcobob = small in the pants
August 5th, 2009 at 10:45 am
its red oak
. i see women ridin 1300`s
August 5th, 2009 at 10:48 am
whats worst? a guy wearing seer sucker pants or a grown man listening to fall out boys & nickelback ?
August 5th, 2009 at 10:49 am
250!!!!!!!!
If it’s your 1st bike then it’s ok, but if not, then you are a douche bag.
LMAO
My dirtbike was 600 XT!!!
August 5th, 2009 at 10:50 am
paula abdul leaving american idol. expect 2 see her at your neighborhood`s backyard cookouts & wal mart book signings
August 5th, 2009 at 10:50 am
Mortal Locks:
Asmougha-obviously
Lechler-see above
JKOW-we don’t have any other kickers
JR-is still the future of the franchise, for now
Zach Miller-”The Truth” is probably our best player
DHB-even if he drops everything at training camp
McFadden-fa show
Tommy Kelly-big contract & there is nobody else
Thomas Howard-our best LB
Mario Henderson-cheap, young and endorsed by the AL
Chaz-our best WR
Gallery-our best O-lineman
August 5th, 2009 at 10:51 am
Good Morning/ Afternoon Nation.
Mitchell is a Beast!
August 5th, 2009 at 10:52 am
its my 1st bike raiderO . stop judgin me . its faster than u think tho. got it up 2 like 100 . its kinda big for a 250 . google pic it . this 09 version is cool . …….. im in denial aint i ?
August 5th, 2009 at 10:53 am
LETS GOO RAIDERS AFC WEST IS OURS THIS YEAR!!!!!
August 5th, 2009 at 10:54 am
thanks trey!!!!
dnt sweat it Dorin just practice wheelies you’ll look cool!!!
O is in tha house whats up brother howz sunny SD today man????
August 5th, 2009 at 10:54 am
BART Bridge Blues Says:
August 5th, 2009 at 10:50 am
Mortal Locks:
Asmougha-obviously
Lechler-see above
JKOW-we don’t have any other kickers
JR-is still the future of the franchise, for now
Zach Miller-”The Truth” is probably our best player
DHB-even if he drops everything at training camp
McFadden-fa show
Tommy Kelly-big contract & there is nobody else
Thomas Howard-our best LB
Mario Henderson-cheap, young and endorsed by the AL
Chaz-our best WR
Gallery-our best O-lineman
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I like that list but gotta add:
1. “Mad Mike” – 2nd rounder not goin anywhere.
2. Loneal – Gonna be a great locker room guy and he’s still a beast on the field.
3. Johnnie Lee – Can do too many things.
August 5th, 2009 at 10:57 am
Don’t forget mr. Warren sapp once a raider always a raider..same goes for Randy moss
August 5th, 2009 at 10:58 am
Oh geez… My boy Morrison! He’s a lock, don’t get it twisted.
And NO rockstar, I don’t know him personally.
9-7!
53 MEN, COUNTLESS FANS, ….ONE PURPOSE!
WE’RE COMMITED!
CHARGERS AFC WEST REIN ENDS 9-14-09!
DRINK IT!
August 5th, 2009 at 10:59 am
BRANCH MITCHELL, muh pain will be inflicted upon the opposition by these 2.
MITCHELL = GEM of the DRAFT
August 5th, 2009 at 11:00 am
BART Bridge Blues Says:
August 5th, 2009 at 10:43 am
The roster is starting to take shape, some quick takes;
Marquis Cooper still on the 80-man roster, I wonder how long Al holds that spot for him. I am sure he will keep 53 “living” players for the season but who knows; Al is batshoot crazy after all.
I see 5 groups within the 80-man roster right now:
Mortal Locks: Players that are not going anywhere; due to performance, large contracts or both, these guys are the future of the team and there is a 0% chance that they get cut.
Sure Things: I would be SHOCKED if any of these guys got cut, but there is a slight chance, like 1%.
Core Players: These are the starters and super-subs that make up most of the 45-man active roster. But age, injury, or pending replacement might cause a few of these guys to be expendable
On the Fence: These guys are fighting for a spot on the 53-man roster, last years’s PS players, career back-ups, etc. I would say this list also includes Michael Huff who is in his sink or swim training camp
Fringe Players: undrafted rookies, nobodies from Free-Agency, future practice squad scrubs. This list also includes the infamous John Bowie who has not been able to show any merit through two seasons.
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AND INTERNS!!!!
August 5th, 2009 at 11:00 am
Man I hope so Thec. I want to hurt some people this year >:)
August 5th, 2009 at 11:01 am
No problem oaklifer. Wheres raiderrockstar @?
August 5th, 2009 at 11:01 am
i think we can do better than 9-7 AZ because i think the only competition we have is giants,eagles,steelers,and the ravens and maybe dallas
August 5th, 2009 at 11:02 am
AZ Raider,
I got JLH and MMitchell on my Sure-Things list and Neal on the fence (just cuz of his age).
I want to see Mitchell uncork Jason Witten’s head in that first pre-season game, then he becomes a Lock. In retrospect, you have convinced me about JLH though. I forgot about his return skills, that alone makes him a lock on this team.
August 5th, 2009 at 11:03 am
whats good Trey!
is Plaxico going to play this season or what?
August 5th, 2009 at 11:03 am
I’m going to another blog this crap with the slow down window wiping out my post is way too frustrating. I just want to talk football and it’s too hard in here.
August 5th, 2009 at 11:06 am
Dorian,
It’s a great 1st bike. After you ride for a year or so, then get a 750cc+. IMO
Also get a Yamaha, I think that’s is the best bike you can buy under 15k.
OAK,
I love SD bro, it’s heaven on Earth.
How about Mike Mitchell?!?!?!? I can’t wait to see him in preseason.
August 5th, 2009 at 11:06 am
I’m sure we are gonna see plenty of big hits from “Mad Mike”… I want to see Nnamdi blow up Rivers from his blind side, and “Mad Mike” Blow up Sproles on a screen
.
Damn, I’m getting pumped up!
August 5th, 2009 at 11:07 am
Treys poll #2 back by popular demand
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best NFL commercial?
1. Peyton and Eli with the chicken
2. Adrian Peterson running w/out shirt
3. Darren mcfadden running through the tunnel
August 5th, 2009 at 11:08 am
Priest …
Just copy your post (cntrl C) before you hit submit. If you get wiped ouyt, you can just press (cntrl V) and whoolaa.
August 5th, 2009 at 11:09 am
Priesttj,
It sux brother but we would hate to lose good football minds do to incompatence on th IT staffs part try to copy and paste b4 you hit submit then at least when you get the stupid message you can just paste it!! I know it suxs but jerry is having it fixed last week was rough for this website!!
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AND INTERNS!!!!
Love it BSJ is Danny still in Oakland or did he come home to visit after all the termoil???
August 5th, 2009 at 11:10 am
Branch & Mitchell are young, hungry, fast, have great size, and love to hit!!!
That alone should make the Defense more fun to watch.
August 5th, 2009 at 11:10 am
I’m just chillin with Tom and mark waiting for 4pm est 1 pm pst for NFL live, plax is going to jail, you will more than likely see norcobob type in an intelligent comment befor burress plays.
August 5th, 2009 at 11:13 am
If you were a fan you would want to see your team go 16-0.
August 5th, 2009 at 11:14 am
OAK,
I love SD bro, it’s heaven on Earth.
How about Mike Mitchell?!?!?!? I can’t wait to see him in preseason.
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1502, O.B. thats some of my ol stompin grounds you know….dog beach….you ever heard of Spoken Gun Local “sublime type” band played with eek-a-mouse!! thats my boy!!!
I cant wait for M&M in the preseason he will be putting the hurt on some folks!!! and I will even be willing to watch him give up the occasional big play be swinging for the fences as long as its not more than one every 4 weeks or so!!! but it comes with the territory you swing for the fence you migh tstrike out but you hit the ball!!! WHACK!!!!! its on !!!!!
PLAYOFFBOUND!!!!!
August 5th, 2009 at 11:14 am
Thec,
I think Cable is making met of these players compete, even Kirk and CJ the mist of us that were a lock.
I love it!! Make them Earn it Cable, no more AL Scholarships for the gifted Athlete.
August 5th, 2009 at 11:15 am
Question to Jerry:
Do you think Ryan Boschetti will push William Joseph or Terdell Sands off the roster? is Sands still on the trade block?
August 5th, 2009 at 11:17 am
You cant copy here, the grammar police will get cha for plagerism
August 5th, 2009 at 11:17 am
OAK,
OB is one of my fav areas in SD. It’s Smoker’s Heaven!!
Smell it, smell it, now share it!!
Legalize it!!!!
August 5th, 2009 at 11:18 am
priesttj Says:
August 5th, 2009 at 11:03 am
I’m going to another blog this crap with the slow down window wiping out my post is way too frustrating. I just want to talk football and it’s too hard in here.
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Guys, now the page sometimes takes 10 minutes plus to reload. Check if your little blue progress bar is done, and if not click the red X (STOP) before posting a new item. The “Too Fast” error seems to come when submitting while the page is still refreshing.
August 5th, 2009 at 11:18 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
August 5th, 2009 at 11:15 am
Question to Jerry:
Do you think Ryan Boschetti will push William Joseph or Terdell Sands off the roster? is Sands still on the trade block?
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Live chat Double R ????
August 5th, 2009 at 11:18 am
*most of these …..
August 5th, 2009 at 11:19 am
Trey, I know you’re a secret Raider fan although you’d never admit it on air with your boy Mark Schlereth there next to you.
After we beat the Chargers on MNF I think people will jump on the Raiders bandwagon faster than Mark jumps on a soap opera gig. your thoughts?
August 5th, 2009 at 11:20 am
Not m&m it’s the MWORD ok oaklifer him and hufferpuff are going to start
August 5th, 2009 at 11:20 am
FREE THE GRAMMAR POLICE!
August 5th, 2009 at 11:20 am
1502
STANDUP!!!!!!!
thats is the only thing I condone in SD well and you of couse O your cool!!!! but thats it!!!!! I would rather live in the crest than in SD!!! LOL
August 5th, 2009 at 11:21 am
Losing Dawkins for the day put a damper on the return of outside linebacker Jarvis Moss who had recently missed time after questioning his dedication to the game. Moss’ return was promising on the surface, but it’s possibly not as concrete as Denver fans would hope. If Moss retires, he would owe the organization $3.6 million, but if he’s cut he keeps his signing bonus as well as the contract money he’s already earned. Call me skeptical, but once a player goes public with a lack of desire to continue his career, the situation doesn’t look great.
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Man I wanted Moss over Q. Moses back in 07. But then again, who wouldn’t?
Moss was a first rnd pick. Lets see if the donks, and thier d!ckk onwer prik blowin get blasted by the media like big would have for drafting a quiter!
August 5th, 2009 at 11:23 am
THE MWORD I almost forgot that is the one!!!!!
cue one of ur g@y polls!!!!!
his nickname should be The Mword!!!! I love it!!!
you da man wingo!!!!!!
August 5th, 2009 at 11:23 am
OAKlifer Says:
August 5th, 2009 at 11:09 am
AND INTERNS!!!!
Love it BSJ is Danny still in Oakland or did he come home to visit after all the termoil???
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My sources say Danny is working with Hackett and Tollner on perfecting the new passing offense. Once the coaches learn who sucks worse (Frye/Gradclownski) they will jettison Gilroy-Boy and roll out Danny as the interim #2.
I’m pretty sure thats what my sources said.
August 5th, 2009 at 11:25 am
I’m pretty sure thats what my sources said.
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thanks Sasha!
August 5th, 2009 at 11:25 am
Mornin, Nation
August 5th, 2009 at 11:26 am
Mark was on one life to live for 1 season that’s it, the raiderbandwagon? Jump? Well even if the raiders beat the chargers the first week, they still got to face 14 other teams including the NFC east, jets, afc north. Oh and personally I do like darren mcfadden.
August 5th, 2009 at 11:28 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
August 5th, 2009 at 11:25 am
I’m pretty sure thats what my sources said.
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thanks Sasha!
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Watch it Jethro…
August 5th, 2009 at 11:30 am
jethro?
in Podunk that translates into Fabio …
August 5th, 2009 at 11:32 am
Q: Do you believe Nick Miller will have a chance in making the team?
A: A slim chance. Had a few drops in the second practice. He would have to be spectacular. Not a classic Raider-type player.
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LOL. tell’em Jerry! the kid is a scrub
August 5th, 2009 at 11:32 am
My sources say Danny is working with Hackett and Tollner on perfecting the new passing offense. Once the coaches learn who sucks worse (Frye/Gradclownski) they will jettison Gilroy-Boy and roll out Danny as the interim #2.
I’m pretty sure thats what my sources said.
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Not intrested in ur sources I wanna know if aunt patty has seen him yet or not!!!!
August 5th, 2009 at 11:33 am
Gay polls? I guess if mentioning adrian running in slow mo is gay than call me Jeff Garcia
Btw
Treys poll #3
what should mike mitchells Nick name be?
1. Derrick Gibson jr
2. M&m
3. The mword
4. Mike the mauler
5. The hitman
6. Me on norcobobs mom*
*name based on how hard I hit his mom after morning wood
August 5th, 2009 at 11:36 am
I wanna know if aunt patty has seen him yet or not!!!!
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LOL @ OAKlifer
August 5th, 2009 at 11:37 am
Hey rr, oaklifer what do you guys think of twitter?
August 5th, 2009 at 11:37 am
OAK,
When you come to SD, hit me up. I’ll show you Heaven.
Come, come run with me.
Come to SD and you will see.
The great land of the ocean and sun
A place to to be yourself and have fun
Run! Run! Run!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I’m the true and only Lizard King, and I can do anything!
August 5th, 2009 at 11:40 am
Trey: I don’t have a twitter acct
the only time I use it is to get instant Raider updates from David White & Jerry Mac
what about you?
August 5th, 2009 at 11:45 am
Comment From AZ KOOL-AID PIMP
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LOL!
August 5th, 2009 at 11:46 am
Aunt Patty?
August 5th, 2009 at 11:49 am
RoiaderRobG predicts:
After the Raiders beat the Chargers on Monday night,
some ESPN Douche bag will be heard saying,
“Well you have to remember this is a Norv Turner coached football team, they were only 8-8 last year, so let not give the Raiders too much credit, the verdict is still out on this Chargers team, but we’ve got a long way to go before the seasons over and, blah blah blah.”
If the guys on NFL network weren’t such nerds (and dicky-doo Mike Lombardi wasn’t getting a check), I’d watch that more often.
August 5th, 2009 at 11:49 am
Aunt Patty loves to play patty cake
Aunt Patty = Terdell Sands?
August 5th, 2009 at 11:50 am
Twitter.com/dmcfadden20
nuff said
August 5th, 2009 at 11:52 am
LOL, Jerry said “ass-over-tea kettle”. He’s got some podunk in him, you betcha.
August 5th, 2009 at 11:53 am
Hey guys why don’t you try to copy and paste this into your address bar
http://allears.net/tp/mgm/espn08/NFLLive8.jpg
tom Jackson is absent from this pic
August 5th, 2009 at 11:54 am
The signing of Amani Toomer says a lot about what the Chiefs feel about their wide receivers right now.
Todd Haley has been all over the receivers during camp for some dropped passes, and clearly the Chiefs aren’t happy with the candidates they have to be their No. 2 receiver next to Dwayne Bowe. We’re talking about a group that includes Devard Darling and Mark Bradley; Bobby Engram fits into the picture probably as a slot receiver instead of a starting receiver who’s going to play every down.
Toomer is a low-risk signing for the Chiefs. If he works out, that’s great; if he’s anything close to the player he was with the Giants, it’s a great signing. But he’s 34, and if he’s lost his skills, the Chiefs can cut him without any financial loss, but they’ve missed an opportunity to get a No. 2 receiver that they so badly need.
August 5th, 2009 at 11:56 am
Well its that time of day, makeup time, you can’t look this good without makeup(unless your name is Adrian Peterson) smell ya late raiderrockstar, oaklifer, and the rest of my followers
August 5th, 2009 at 11:56 am
I think Mitchell should be named “MMMMM.” you know like the dirty old man on Family Guy?
“Mmmm, looks like Mr. Mitchell hit you boysss ssso hard you craped your drawssss. Thatss alright, we can tosss em in the laundry and while your pantiess are ssoaking up the ssudsss I got some popcicless for you in my basssement, MMMMM!”
August 5th, 2009 at 12:03 pm
adding vets like Toomer & Engram to the WR corps will make Dwayne Bowe a better player.
Devard Darling and Mark Bradley are just depth guys
August 5th, 2009 at 12:08 pm
Internet Blogger Troll, Hater of Women, Go’s Beserk Shoots up Aerobics Class.
http://www.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/08/05/pennsylvania.gym.shooting/
Trolls are Desperate People, who do desperate things.
August 5th, 2009 at 12:10 pm
Jerry is ducking my Southwick questions…I can’t believe no one at HQ has leaked the big plan!
August 5th, 2009 at 12:12 pm
BSJ: typical mormon haters!
Danny Southwick is the bomb diggity …
August 5th, 2009 at 12:15 pm
When you come to SD, hit me up. I’ll show you Heaven
Thank bro…
Ill hit you up fo sho!!!! I’ll catch a Raider game then head South for the week lets do it!!!!
Trey, I’ll admitt I go on twitter more than I should its g@y but Acouple of my bay cats on there along with Raider updates gotta stay connected while Im in the “podunk”!!!
PLAYOFFBOUND!!!!
August 5th, 2009 at 12:16 pm
What a great afternoon it is to be a Raider fan, hey guys?
August 5th, 2009 at 12:17 pm
# OAKlifer Says:
August 5th, 2009 at 12:15 pm
PLAYOFFBOUND!!!!
……….
LOL. Who is? Us?
August 5th, 2009 at 12:18 pm
Beech
I didn’t see you when the blog was unregistered last week. Who were you posting as then?
August 5th, 2009 at 12:19 pm
RaiderTW Says:
August 5th, 2009 at 11:54 am
The signing of Amani Toomer says a lot about what the Chiefs feel about their wide receivers right now.
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Oh, great logic. Thank god you’re a hypocrite, and only view Jeff Garcia’s signing in Oakland as a move to bring in a tutor for Russell.
August 5th, 2009 at 12:22 pm
Dude there are a million Danny southwick out there and have been over the years.
Any one remember Ricky Ray. Invited to a Niners camp and a Jets camp, and winning the Grey cup for the Eskimos in between? That guy can play QB. He’s a Champion, but no one in the NFL is calling.
August 5th, 2009 at 12:24 pm
# priesttj Says:
August 5th, 2009 at 11:03 am
I’m going to another blog this crap with the slow down window wiping out my post is way too frustrating. I just want to talk football and it’s too hard in here.
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Darn, priest. Who’s going to fill your big shoes and tell us how great the team is?
August 5th, 2009 at 12:25 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
August 5th, 2009 at 12:17 pm
# OAKlifer Says:
August 5th, 2009 at 12:15 pm
PLAYOFFBOUND!!!!
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LOL. Who is? Us?
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MR,
Hey ‘ol buddy!!!
Well of couse!!!
The Traiblazers
The Raiders
(and for Dakota) The Cubs!!!
The first two are up and coming teams with all the potenial in the world PLAYOFFBOUND means we are bound for something not today not tomarrow but a journey….and last year we were not on the journey firing coaches losing high price FA cutting trash!!!
This year is different and “WE” are on the rise you have two choices my friend!!!
1: COME RISE WITH US!!!
2: Sit around and be piss poor about the past when the future is going in a whole different direction…
THE CHOICE IS YOURS!!!
PLAYOFFBOUND!!!!!
August 5th, 2009 at 12:27 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
August 5th, 2009 at 12:19 pm
RaiderTW Says:
August 5th, 2009 at 11:54 am
The signing of Amani Toomer says a lot about what the Chiefs feel about their wide receivers right now.
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Oh, great logic. Thank god you’re a hypocrite, and only view Jeff Garcia’s signing in Oakland as a move to bring in a tutor for Russell.
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Good thing Garcia is healthy he’ll start fasho!
9-7!
JAVON WALKER COMEBACK PLAYER OF THE YEAR!
53 MEN, COUNTLESS FANS, COMMITTED TO ONE PURPOSE!
DRINK UP!
MR, I know you agree!
RAIDER ON!
PLAYOFFBOUND!
August 5th, 2009 at 12:28 pm
later wingo shout me out tonight im waitn on my big break!!!!!!
August 5th, 2009 at 12:29 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
August 5th, 2009 at 12:17 pm
# OAKlifer Says:
August 5th, 2009 at 12:15 pm
PLAYOFFBOUND!!!!
……….
LOL. Who is? Us?
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Who is “Us” MR?
Do you play for the RAIDERS?
Just hackin on ya Billy!
August 5th, 2009 at 12:30 pm
This year is different and “WE” are on the rise you have two choices my friend!!!
1: COME RISE WITH US!!!
2: Sit around and be piss poor about the past when the future is going in a whole different direction…
THE CHOICE IS YOURS!!!
PLAYOFFBOUND!!!!!
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2nd THAT! Nice post Oak!
9-7!
DRINK IT!
August 5th, 2009 at 12:30 pm
http://www.edmontonsun.com/sports/football/2009/07/30/10319841.html#/sports/football/2009/07/31/pf-10321841.html
I followed Ricky Ray at Shasta College where he shattered many of California’s JuCo records. That guy should be playing in the NFL on Sunday. Not Kyle Orton, Boller, McCown, ect…
If Al Davis wants a Champion QB with a rocket arm, a great deep ball thrower and mobility, this guy should have been invited to camp!
August 5th, 2009 at 12:31 pm
Wat up AZ?
August 5th, 2009 at 12:31 pm
AZ,
“Good thing Garcia is healthy he’ll start fasho!”
you feeling ok bro?????
August 5th, 2009 at 12:32 pm
Being from Canada and watching Ray play when they play in Toronto, he isn’t anything special…sorry
August 5th, 2009 at 12:34 pm
Thanks AZ!
Beech,
Whats up man???? you rollin wit me to Arby’s 2nite?????? I saw you in here serving hot plates!!! No trolls can keep you out!!!!
PLAYOFFBOUND!!!!!!!!11
August 5th, 2009 at 12:35 pm
I see Oaklifer and AZraider started drinking early today.
August 5th, 2009 at 12:35 pm
Raider Headbutt Says:
August 5th, 2009 at 12:32 pm
Being from Canada
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Be carefull what you say in here!!!
just jokin bro!!!! I love those Canadian Oreo’s they are just different not made by nabisco!!!! they are the Bomb you remember those???????
August 5th, 2009 at 12:38 pm
You know cornpops are different here to? lol
August 5th, 2009 at 12:40 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
August 5th, 2009 at 12:35 pm
I see Oaklifer and AZraider started drinking early today.
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The Kool-AId pimp is pumping as early as 5:30 AM come fill your glass and toast with us its ok to have Faith brother!!!
“If you give a hungry man a fish he will eat for a day,
you teach a hungry man how to fish he will eat for the rest of his life”
That is whats going on in Raiderland these days!! No more handing out fish if you dnt wanna grab a pole and learn your done!!! We are Teaching and it will show because these guys sign huge contract only makes them professional in the sense of the word!! They still need to Learn and retain Basics you “slob ryan” cant assume every one on the team knows hoe to play “Raider” Fottball you gotta teach em!!!
August 5th, 2009 at 12:41 pm
I get the feeling people are a little more prepared for a disastrous season this year than last year. There’s some forced optimism this year, but there doesn’t seem to be as much sugar in the kool aid. I think most Raider fans know what’s going to happen, and know it’s going to be a mess as long as Al’s here.
August 5th, 2009 at 12:41 pm
You know cornpops are different here to? lol
Better or worse B/C those Oreo’s are like ten times better makes me want to sell all my guns and move to BC!!!!!!!! well or ask you to send some but I do get excited!!!!!
August 5th, 2009 at 12:42 pm
“If you give a hungry man a fish he will eat for a day,
you teach a hungry man how to fish he will eat for the rest of his life”
…..
While we’ve been telling poor people that for years, we should have been saying it to people on Wall Street.
August 5th, 2009 at 12:44 pm
While we’ve been telling poor people that for years, we should have been saying it to people on Wall Street.
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Amen brethran I couldnt agree more!!!!!
August 5th, 2009 at 12:44 pm
Yeah I can tell you watched alot of CFL:
ray’s Career Totals 3,417 2,304 67.4%
28,828 yds 159 TD 96int 97.2rating
Dude can play ALOT better than most other QB’s.
Dude does throw a lot of INTs but that comes from throwing the long ball a lot!
2009: (Edmonton) In five starts, Ray is 111 of 160 for 1374 yards and six touchdowns against five interceptions. He has also run 13 times for 47 yards and two touchdowns.
2008: (Edmonton) Ray finished the season as the top quarterback in the league going 422 of 605 (69.8%) for 5,663 yards and 26 touchdowns against 17 interceptions in 18 games (18 starts). He also rushed 75 times for 258 yards and five touchdowns. He earned CFL Offensive Player of the Week honours four times this season (Weeks 2, 6 ,10 and East Semi-Final). Ray broke two Warren Moon club records to become first in career touchdown passes (145) and first in passing yards in a season (5,648) in Eskimo history. He also set a CFL single-game record with a 92% completion rate when he went 23 of 25 for 302 yards and two touchdowns in the final game of the season. In the East Semi-Final he was 27 of 37 for 303 yards and ran four times for 25 yards. In the East Final he was 26 of 49 for 339 yards and a touchdown. He was the 2008 Eskimo nominee for the CFL’s Outstanding Player Award.
Career: Ricky signed as a free agent with San Francisco 49ers, attended training camp and dressed for three pre-season games. He then played seven games for the Fresno Frenzy of Arena Football 2, where he was coached by former CFL quarterback and current Eskimo assistant coach Rick Worman. Slotted as the Esks’ 3rd quarterback at the start of 2002 training camp, Ricky made his first appearance in Week 4 at Saskatchewan when starter Jason Maas was knocked from the game late in the fourth quarter. In 2003, Ray led the Eskimos to a Grey Cup victory. In 2004, Ricky signed with the New York Jets, dressing for five regular season games plus the AFC Wildcard Playoff and AFC Divisional Playoff, but did not see game action. He returned to Edmonton in 2005 and led the team to another Grey Cup Championship. In 2006 he finished first in the league in passing yards with 5000. He also had his best season rushing, running 92 times for 469 yards and nine touchdowns. In the first game of the season, Ray threw 33 completions which was the most pass completions in a CFL game in 2006. On September 30, he passed Tom Wilkinson to become first in career pass completions in Eskimo history. He was also selected to the West Division All-Star and CFL All-Star teams for the first time in his career. In 2007 Ray started the first 13 games of the season before suffering a separated shoulder on September 28 vs. Toronto
August 5th, 2009 at 12:45 pm
Im not sure which is better, long time since iv had the ones south.
We chould set up a pepsi challenge oreo style.
August 5th, 2009 at 12:48 pm
Raider Headbutt Says:
August 5th, 2009 at 12:45 pm
Im not sure which is better, long time since iv had the ones south.
We chould set up a pepsi challenge oreo style.
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You should come to a tail gate we will set up shop!!!
I can see it now 100lbs smoked tritip two kegs a few bottles of VSOP Heem, and 30 packs of Oreo’s 15 US 15 CAN!!!! then the real camp competion begins!!!!!!!!
August 5th, 2009 at 12:51 pm
Damn sounds like Oaklifer laid down the challenge. don’t be surprised if McDonald shows up…free food!
August 5th, 2009 at 12:54 pm
You should come to a tail gate we will set up shop!!!
I can see it now 100lbs smoked tritip two kegs a few bottles of VSOP Heem, and 30 packs of Oreo’s 15 US 15 CAN!!!! then the real camp competion begins!!!!!!!!
I am game for that lol.
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Yes he has those stats in the CFL. So does anthony calvillo and damon allen before he retired, could they make it? no
different game here agaist, unfortunetly, lesser talent.
August 5th, 2009 at 12:54 pm
LOL@412!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
funny stuff RRG, Ill let you know as well bro!!!
August 5th, 2009 at 12:54 pm
Beech
You do understand how insignificant and ineffective you are though, no?
Don’t you ever feel lame when I ignore you, or others call you out for being stupid?
August 5th, 2009 at 12:56 pm
I want a Canadian Oreo!!??
OAK,
Let’s do it bro, any time but Jan. I’ll be in Jordan for a few weeks.
August 5th, 2009 at 12:58 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
August 5th, 2009 at 12:35 pm
I see Oaklifer and AZraider started drinking early today.
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Hell ya, Oak and I are lushes! I drink my kool-aid with my eggs and toast in the morning!
SUP TO ALL THAT JUST JOINED US!
53 MEN, COUNTLESS FANS, …..ONE PURPOSE!
9-7!
CLAIMING THE WEST IN 09!
DRINK IT!
August 5th, 2009 at 1:01 pm
But if we are doing the oreo challenge, it has to be double stuffed oreos
August 5th, 2009 at 1:02 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
August 5th, 2009 at 12:42 pm
“If you give a hungry man a fish he will eat for a day,
you teach a hungry man how to fish he will eat for the rest of his life”
…..
While we’ve been telling poor people that for years, we should have been saying it to people on Wall Street.
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Teach em to HUNT.
August 5th, 2009 at 1:02 pm
OAKlifer Says:
August 5th, 2009 at 12:40 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
August 5th, 2009 at 12:35 pm
I see Oaklifer and AZraider started drinking early today.
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The Kool-AId pimp is pumping as early as 5:30 AM come fill your glass and toast with us its ok to have Faith brother!!!
“If you give a hungry man a fish he will eat for a day,
you teach a hungry man how to fish he will eat for the rest of his life”
That is whats going on in Raiderland these days!! No more handing out fish if you dnt wanna grab a pole and learn your done!!! We are Teaching and it will show because these guys sign huge contract only makes them professional in the sense of the word!! They still need to Learn and retain Basics you “slob ryan” cant assume every one on the team knows hoe to play “Raider” Fottball you gotta teach em!!!
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Damn, Oak is preachin today MR, better stay out the way or pour a glass for yourself LOL!
9-7!
Ya’ll know tha drill!
DRINK IT!
August 5th, 2009 at 1:04 pm
I’m still in Iraq till November. Might make it back in time for the Chiefs game!
Oh, and Headbutt tell that to Warren Moon and Doug Flutie. I doubt he’ll ever get another chance, but I think Ray would be an excellent backup as the very least.
August 5th, 2009 at 1:06 pm
I ALSO AM TRYING 2 MAKE THE SQUAWS GAME,but if work dont pick-up ,I wont be able 2
August 5th, 2009 at 1:07 pm
ha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
420 and didnt try
August 5th, 2009 at 1:07 pm
Why does it seems we get the Jets and the Browns every year?
August 5th, 2009 at 1:09 pm
All I meant by that was, although they have good stats in the CFL, that doesnt mean they can play in the NFL, obiously teams say something in warren moon, doug flutie and jeff garcia…but they didnt see what they wanted in Ray to be an NFL player
August 5th, 2009 at 1:12 pm
Good afternoon eva.
August 5th, 2009 at 1:13 pm
DirtyRaccoon Says:
August 5th, 2009 at 12:31 pm
Wat up AZ?
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what up Dirty, I didn’t see you there foe a sec!
Good day to be a Raider FAN! 53 MEN and COUNTLESS FANS COMMITTED!
August 5th, 2009 at 1:14 pm
AZ,
I’m thinking 9-7:
JR: 3000+ yards, 20 TDs 12 INTs, and around 59%+ comp rate.
DMC: 1000 yards rushing, 500 yards catching. 10 TDs
Bush: 900 yards rushing 6 TDs
Fargas: 600 yards rushing. No TDs. lol
Miller: 75+ catches for 1000 yards. 6 TDs!
Chaz: 60 catches 800 yards. 5 TDs
JLH: 50 catches 700 yards. 3 TDs
DHB: 30 catches 500 yards 2 TDs
Other WRs 2 TDs!!!!!
JLH 4 TDs on punt returns.
Miller 2TDs on returns.
Total TDs:
August 5th, 2009 at 1:14 pm
Jets and Browns are 3rd in their divisions every year just like us? I think thats how it works…
August 5th, 2009 at 1:16 pm
Total TDs:
20 passing.
14 rushing.
6 S-Teams.
=
40TDs!!!!!
August 5th, 2009 at 1:20 pm
I like it ‘O’, poor me another!
August 5th, 2009 at 1:22 pm
hey Dirty!!!
my next door neighbor shot a BIG PIG that weighed about 250lbs gutted
August 5th, 2009 at 1:25 pm
Raider O Says:
August 5th, 2009 at 12:56 pm
I want a Canadian Oreo!!??
OAK,
Let’s do it bro, any time but Jan. I’ll be in Jordan for a few weeks.
YOU got it bro Ill make the trip!!!!
DOUBLE STUFF IT IS!!!!!
Fill yuor cup come one come all HATERS WE LOVE YA!!!!!
PLAYOFFBOUND!!!!!!!!!!
August 5th, 2009 at 1:26 pm
Fargas: 600 yards rushing. No TDs. lol
thats a good one O =)
August 5th, 2009 at 1:26 pm
Well comparing what you are hoping for to last years stats, that would only put us in 3rd in points for… we might need more than that unless we are having a shut down D this year…
August 5th, 2009 at 1:27 pm
Did I say poor me? Pour me ‘O’, pour me another…
August 5th, 2009 at 1:28 pm
well gotta pick up daughter,she came 2 her senses and moved back in with me!!!
August 5th, 2009 at 1:28 pm
4eva,
LMAO @ “BIG PIG”
August 5th, 2009 at 1:30 pm
4eva,
That’s right Brother!!
Dad will always be there!!
August 5th, 2009 at 1:31 pm
4real O
a real BIG-PIG
August 5th, 2009 at 1:33 pm
AZ,
No need for KoolAide, it will happen!
Read it, learn it, now love it!!
August 5th, 2009 at 1:34 pm
yep O
and speaking of being there I really gotta go pick her up from work NOW,BBL!!!
August 5th, 2009 at 1:39 pm
Ricky Ray is a smart heady QB, but he’s a rainbow thrower.
A good rainbow thrower but he does not have the zip to make the tight throws required in the NFL.
IMHO
August 5th, 2009 at 1:39 pm
HEY!
IS THERE ANYONE AS PUMPED UP AS THE AZ KOOL-AID PIMP IN HERE!?!
DON’T KNOW IF IT CAN HAPPEN!
9-7!
DRINK UP!
August 5th, 2009 at 1:45 pm
The best QB for backup potential in the CFL is Jariuos Jackson…older but strong lively arm.
Held a clip board for the Broncos back in the day.
Still holds a lot of passing records at ND.
Not young enough for anyone to invest in, but if I had to dial up a QB to finish a game or fill in he would be my guy.
The young QB is Quinton Porter from Boston College he’s coming along nicely but years away from being a starter in the NFL.
August 5th, 2009 at 1:48 pm
Later 4eva.
August 5th, 2009 at 1:52 pm
Did I miss anything! Friggin work!!!!
August 5th, 2009 at 1:54 pm
Ok its getting kinda slow in here so out of the ppl remaining. List your starting offense. and…GO
August 5th, 2009 at 2:02 pm
Raider Headbutt Says:
August 5th, 2009 at 1:54 pm
Ok its getting kinda slow in here so out of the ppl remaining. List your starting offense. and…GO
___________________________
Kobe
Fisher
Artest
Gasol
Bynum
August 5th, 2009 at 2:02 pm
DAKOTA – YOU MISSED ALL THE KOOL-AID I’VE BEEN SERVING UP ALL MORNING! It was even too much for MR to bear!
August 5th, 2009 at 2:04 pm
JR
DMC/ Bush
OO/ Neal
Miller
Chaz, DHB, JLH
Mario, Gallery, Sat, Cooper, Barnes/Green
Scott, TK, Warren, Ellis on passing downs. Ellis, TK, Warren, Matt S/ Jay on rushing downs.
TH, Kirk, Brown/Alston
Nnamdi, CJ, SR
Branch & Mitchell
August 5th, 2009 at 2:05 pm
Raider Headbutt Says:
August 5th, 2009 at 1:54 pm
Ok its getting kinda slow in here so out of the ppl remaining. List your starting offense. and…GO
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OFFENSE:
QB – Russell
HB – McFadden
WR – Schilens
WR – Walker
WR – Heyward-Bey
FB – L. Neal
LT – Henderson
LG – Gallery
C – Satele
RG – MQuistan
RT – Barnes
TE – Miller
Too easy…
August 5th, 2009 at 2:05 pm
Ok so is Kobe throwing the ball, running the ball or catching the ball?
August 5th, 2009 at 2:06 pm
I never hated the Lakers as much as I do now!
Thx Dakota.
August 5th, 2009 at 2:07 pm
Anyone else see this video from last night’s A’s game? A guy gets tased and than a foul ball lands right by them. Kind of funny.
http://deadspin.com/5330747/tasers-and-foul-balls-make-for-an-eventful-night-in-oakland
August 5th, 2009 at 2:08 pm
Sorry AZ….keep it up though, the Nation needs hope…I don’t have much, but the Nations needs it…
August 5th, 2009 at 2:13 pm
And Lamar OdamIAlmostSignedWithMiami is 6th man o’ year!!!
August 5th, 2009 at 2:18 pm
JRuss
Dmac
Chaz
Walker
DHB
Miller
Cornbread
McQuistan
Satele
Gallery
Henderson
Ellis
Warren
Kelly
Scott
Howard
Brown
Morrison
Routt
Nnamdi
Huff
Mitchell
August 5th, 2009 at 2:22 pm
It IS a great day to be a Raiders fan! Isn’t it?
All the throws…all the catches…all the (relatively few) drops…all the competition on Defense…all the competition everywhere…all the excellent coaching…all the shiny new toys…
…mean nothing if JaMarcus Russell is not a real leader, and not just of the Offense. JaMarcus Russell must be a leader of the team…and guess what?
If you listen carefully, you hear something from JaMarcus, and it’s very significant. He’s not just saying, “Look here, I’m a leader!”, he’s saying the things leaders say when they know they’ve got things figured out.
JaMarcus Russell has figured “IT” out. He knows what he sees across the line from him…he knows where to put the ball (or not) in ALL instances…he knows what’s expected of him, and he expects it of himself. He’s prepared for it, and there are no more excuses…and he knows that, too.
JaMarcus Russell’s Offense can get this team to 8-8, even if the Defense played the same way they did last year (gulp). But, if Marshall’s Defense remains active, aggressive (but not overly so re: blitzes, etc.), and fundamentally SOUND…there really is no reason 8-wins can’t be surpassed.
Ahhhh…optimism in Raiders Land!
August 5th, 2009 at 2:27 pm
Seen the clip of a J-Russ in passing drills yesterday.
Footwork and backpedal are 100% better than last year.
He is shooting darts, no wonder Jeff G has come up lame.
Arm can’t back up the talk, and all of the players can see it.
August 5th, 2009 at 2:29 pm
Hackett has done a great job!!
August 5th, 2009 at 2:30 pm
I would imagine the “Core” let Garcia know where he stands.
August 5th, 2009 at 2:31 pm
Defense:
RE – Scott
DT – Warren
DT – Kelly
LE – Ellis
CB – Asomugha
CB – C. Johnson
ROLB – Howard
MLB – Brown?
LOLB – Morrison
FS – Branch/Huff?
SS – “Mad Mike”
August 5th, 2009 at 2:34 pm
My guess is that Charlie Frye will be our backup when the season starts.
I can see garcia retiring after the preseason.
I like Garcia but he is just too old to be a scramble first QB.
Frye’s got good wheels and a much stronger arm, I’m not sure but didn’t he beat Garcia out in Cleveland.
August 5th, 2009 at 2:34 pm
Offense?
WR McFadden
WR McFadden
TE Miller
FB Oneal
HB McFadden
QB McFadden
LT Henderson
LG Gallery
C Satele
RG Cooper
RT McFadden
August 5th, 2009 at 2:35 pm
Can’t stay to long, but had to post a fun and quick:
HYPOCRITE ALERT HYPOCRITE ALERT HYPOCRITE ALERT
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
Hayez wrote:
“First, let me say for the thousandth time: Al and the Raiders deserve to be harshly criticized where they deserve it. Key words: where they deserve it.”
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When have they ever deserved it, in your mind, Hayez? When they hired Gruden and Kiffin? When they drafted Marcus Allen? That’s pretty much it, right? Tell me what drugs you’re mixing. I want to feel like it’s a great day to be a Raider fan, too.
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MR — You contradict your entire reason for living on this forum, by not acknowledging when REAL Raiders fans admit how bad things have been around here for awhile.
Instead of acknowledging it…you choose to find more negativity to try and dredge…proving once again, you are no fan, and you’re certainly not in here to discuss anything of substance.
Making things worse (or better), you then try and use some of Al’s better moves to try and prove your point? Al’s signings of Marcus and Gruden were historical and wildly successful.
Thanks again for proving my point for me, MR! Al’s a pretty damned good GM after all!!
HYPOCRITE ALERT HYPOCRITE ALERT HYPOCRITE ALERT
August 5th, 2009 at 2:38 pm
LOL
August 5th, 2009 at 2:38 pm
Garcia looked dazed and confused in that last game.
August 5th, 2009 at 2:40 pm
4 so long its not true
August 5th, 2009 at 2:41 pm
HayesDaze37 Says:
August 5th, 2009 at 2:35 pm
Thanks again for proving my point for me, MR! Al’s a pretty damned good GM after all!!
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HayesDaze, you can’t let a sleeping dog sleep can you? If Al Davis is a pretty damned good GM, he’d have more than 6 winning seasons in the last 20 years. You’re Al Davis’ worst enemy.
Free Agency in the NFL started in 1989 with Plan B. It marked a new way of operation for NFL teams.
In the 20 Seasons since the implementation of Free Agency and the Modern Era, some teams have adjusted, some have not. The following is the number of winning seasons by team since 1989:
Pittsburg 15
Miami 14
Green Bay 14
New England 13
Philadelphia 13
San Francisco 12
Minnesota 12
Kansas City 12
Indianapolis 12
Denver 12
Dallas 12
Tennessee 11
New York Giants 10
Buffalo 9
Seattle 8
Tampa Bay 8
San Diego 8
New York Jets 8
Chicago 8
Washington 8
Oakland 6
Atlanta 6
New Orleans 6
St Louis 5
Detroit 5
Cleveland 4
Cincinnati 2
August 5th, 2009 at 2:42 pm
I thought garcia looked gay and confused….
August 5th, 2009 at 2:43 pm
Offense?
WR McFadden
WR McFadden
TE Miller
FB Oneal
HB McFadden
QB McFadden
LT Henderson
LG Gallery
C Satele
RG Cooper
RT McFadden
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Dang, McFadden is gonna get sacked all day! That leaves 4 defenders with no one to gaurd. I guess they’ll be blitzing past the RT where Darren should have been, but he just took the snap! If he gets away from the blits, he’ll still have to catch up with the pass that he threw to himself
I don’t know if that will work Dakota…
August 5th, 2009 at 2:45 pm
I cloned McFadden…it will all work out AZ
August 5th, 2009 at 2:46 pm
KK — Are you really defending MR? Did you even read his post? Back off KK, or I’ll make sure to embarrass you real quick. BTW…make sure to wave to me tomorrow!
August 5th, 2009 at 2:46 pm
Oh good, thanks Dakota… wheew! I got worried there.
August 5th, 2009 at 2:47 pm
He was epic in the 90 Grey Cup!
August 5th, 2009 at 2:49 pm
HayseDaze
If you would keep your Ridiculous Homer Mouth shut, I wouldn’t be forced to keep correcting you and the record
Playoff Appearances by Team in the 20 years since Free Agency in 1989.
Pittsburgh 13
Philadelphia 12
Minnesota 11
San Francisco 11
Tennessee 11
Green Bay 11
Indianapolis 11
Dallas 11
New England 10
New York Giants 10
Denver 10
Miami 10
Kansas City 9
Buffalo 9
San Diego 7
Tampa Bay 7
Oakland 6
Seattle 6
New York Jets 6
St Louis 6
Chicago 6
Atlanta 6
Detroit 6
Washington 6
New Orleans 5
Cleveland 3
Arizona 2
Cincinnati 1
August 5th, 2009 at 2:49 pm
KK — Been wondering how you’re going to act tomorrow…will you tell all those young, incredibly talented players — the future of YOUR Raiders — that you just can’t support them, because they’re only here because Al doesn’t know how to draft?
What’s that?? You won’t tell them they’re all scrubs, and Al can’t rate talent? That Al was washed-up when he picked them all?
That in itself is a…
HYPOCRITE ALERT HYPOCRITE ALERT HYPOCRITE ALERT
KK — You are too, too easy, man.
August 5th, 2009 at 2:52 pm
Anyone that is happy about the last 20 years of Raiders’ football is either a fool or brain dead.
August 5th, 2009 at 2:54 pm
HayesDaze37 Says:
August 5th, 2009 at 2:35 pm
Thanks again for proving my point for me, MR! Al’s a pretty damned good GM after all!!
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When you constantly say stupid shyt like the above. Sorry, I have to correct you.
It has nothing to do with MR or Raider players.
August 5th, 2009 at 2:54 pm
KK — You’re not CORRECTING the record. The record already stands, and nobody’s running from it. They’ve attacked it head-on, and results are nigh to being here. Give a LITTLE credit where it’s due…you sure expect everybody to eat the “last 20-yrs” cr@p every-other post.
If you can’t get over the past horrible times, why are you even coming to Napa tomorrow? Are you a fan, KK, or are you only a fan when your team is winning? Or, only when it looks good for business (and write-offs)? That $70 camp trip’s a nice one. You’re welcome.
August 5th, 2009 at 2:55 pm
I got 1 thing to say….. Well, a couple….
9-7!
JAVON WALKER COMEBACK PLAYER OF THE YEAR!
53 MEN AND COUNTLESS FANS COMMITTED TO ONE PURPOSE!
CHARGERS REIN AS AFC WEST CHAMPS STOPS SEPT. 14TH 2009!
PLAYOFFBOUND!
DRINK IT!
August 5th, 2009 at 2:57 pm
Dakota Says:
Anyone that is happy about the last 20 years of Raiders’ football is either a fool or brain dead.
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Dakota — Don’t even try to put words in my mouth. Who’s happy about the past 20-yrs? Only non-fans. How it’s been dealt with is a different matter…and it has nothing to do with how I feel about THIS team and THESE kids and THESE coaches.
August 5th, 2009 at 2:58 pm
We are in the 5th year of a 3 year rebuilding plan.
One lost year with Shell, and one with Kiffen.
Norv was always a transition coach.
I’m glad to see that the current coaching staff went back to the basics and started teaching football again.
These “kids” are coming out and they are raw, when you’ve been this bad you have to begin from scratch.
August 5th, 2009 at 2:58 pm
bottoms up!!!
August 5th, 2009 at 2:59 pm
f you can’t get over the past horrible times, why are you even coming to Napa tomorrow? Are you a fan, KK, or are you only a fan when your team is winning?
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WTF do you think? Nevermind, who gives a fuk what you think.
August 5th, 2009 at 3:00 pm
Btw The Chamber cancelled the Training Camp trip. “Not enough people signed up”
August 5th, 2009 at 3:01 pm
KK — Hilarious, and pouty as usual. Cheer up before tomorrow!
Gotta run, I’m late!
It’s a great day to be a Raiders fan! Isn’t it!?
August 5th, 2009 at 3:02 pm
hey Dakota,do you clone plants 2 ???
August 5th, 2009 at 3:04 pm
Larz Says:
August 5th, 2009 at 2:58 pm
We are in the 5th year of a 3 year rebuilding plan.
One lost year with Shell, and one with Kiffen.
Norv was always a transition coach.
I’m glad to see that the current coaching staff went back to the basics and started teaching football again.
These “kids” are coming out and they are raw, when you’ve been this bad you have to begin from scratch.
……………………………………………….
1 Lost year with Turner – He’s a push over.
1 Lost year with Shell
2 Lost years with Kiffin – It was incredible Cable was able to do anything with the team after the way Kiffin left it.
August 5th, 2009 at 3:06 pm
Btw The Alameda Chamber cancelled the Training Camp trip. “Not enough people signed up”
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How pathetic is that, especially in Alameda. Thanks to Al’s operating procedures/out.
August 5th, 2009 at 3:07 pm
Just McFaddens 4eva… I already asked
August 5th, 2009 at 3:08 pm
I agree Larz.It speaks volumes about the coach & players,imo
August 5th, 2009 at 3:14 pm
well AZ,if he did more than McFADDENS,I was gonna challenge him 2C who could clone better,ya know?!?!?!
August 5th, 2009 at 3:15 pm
Yup…
LEGALIZE IT!
August 5th, 2009 at 3:16 pm
YESTERDAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
August 5th, 2009 at 3:17 pm
HayesDaze37 Says:
July 14th, 2009 at 9:56 pm
What does it hurt to lose the most games over 6-years?
Ummm…NOTHING, but merchandise and ticket sales.
Oh, and a lot of pride.
But, that’s all.
August 5th, 2009 at 3:18 pm
HayesDaze37 Says:
August 5th, 2009 at 2:22 pm
It IS a great day to be a Raiders fan! Isn’t it?
All the throws…all the catches…all the (relatively few) drops…all the competition on Defense…all the competition everywhere…all the excellent coaching…all the shiny new toys…
…mean nothing if JaMarcus Russell is not a real leader, and not just of the Offense. JaMarcus Russell must be a leader of the team…and guess what?
If you listen carefully, you hear something from JaMarcus, and it’s very significant. He’s not just saying, “Look here, I’m a leader!”, he’s saying the things leaders say when they know they’ve got things figured out.
JaMarcus Russell has figured “IT” out. He knows what he sees across the line from him…he knows where to put the ball (or not) in ALL instances…he knows what’s expected of him, and he expects it of himself. He’s prepared for it
=======================================================
Great post…Ahhhh..same coach, better assistants, same players,same system…hmmmmmmmm
August 5th, 2009 at 3:19 pm
man that IS embarrassing,especially in Alameda.Whats wrong with people??? Is it cause no one is working or what???
August 5th, 2009 at 3:24 pm
Offense
Head coach: 4evaRaider
GM: Oakglenn
QB – Russell
TB – McFadden
WR – Walker- he needs to claim his place as “leader”
WR – Schilens
WR – Heyward-Bey
FB – L. Neal, until OO is.. well OO
LT – Henderson
LG – Gallery
C – Satele
RG – MQuistan
RT – Pears
TE – Miller
August 5th, 2009 at 3:29 pm
RE – Scott
DT – Wifol…I mean Sands
DT – Kelly
LE – Ellis
CB – Asomugha
CB – C. Johnson
ROLB – Howard
MLB – Morrison
LOLB – Williams
FS – Huff, until Branch is good to go.
SS – Mike
August 5th, 2009 at 3:29 pm
Oh man, Krappy … I know how much you were looking forward to your bus trip to training camp. What a disappointment. Darn.
But let’s look on the bright side -
1) You won’t repeatedly crap your pants in front of unsuspecting Chamber members
2) There are no microwaves (that I’m aware of) on the training field for you to defrost your head in
3) It will take the most severe security lapse in Raider history for you to wander onto the practice field with your pants around your ankles searching for an Arby’s
4) You can get your privates hosed off in a proper setting – your own backyard – rather than in front of Jamarcus
5) The oatmeal lunch you packed for the afternoon won’t have a chance to spoil in the afternoon heat
Blessing in disguise, ol Krap Krap!
August 5th, 2009 at 3:30 pm
man Dirty,I would do it 4 next 2 nothing,and I’m sure OAKlifer would give me all the freedom 2 do what ever I want 2 make us a contender!!!
August 5th, 2009 at 3:32 pm
DirtyRaccoon Says:
August 5th, 2009 at 3:24 pm
Offense
Head coach: 4evaRaider
GM: Oakglenn
QB – Russell
TB – McFadden
WR – Walker- he needs to claim his place as “leader”
WR – Schilens
WR – Heyward-Bey
FB – L. Neal, until OO is.. well OO
LT – Henderson
LG – Gallery
C – Satele
RG – MQuistan
RT – Pears
TE – Miller
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i like how you guys got Javon in the starting line-up! I told you that kool-aid I make is da bomb!
9-7!
JW COMEBACK PLAYER OF THE YEAR!
DRINK UP NATION!
August 5th, 2009 at 3:33 pm
4evaRaider Says:
August 5th, 2009 at 3:30 pm
man Dirty,I would do it 4 next 2 nothing,and I’m sure OAKlifer would give me all the freedom 2 do what ever I want 2 make us a contender!!!
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Is Oaklifer, Oakglenn?
August 5th, 2009 at 3:33 pm
does Oakglen even post anymore???
August 5th, 2009 at 3:34 pm
eve, can I be the D-line coach?
August 5th, 2009 at 3:34 pm
I dont think so,OAKlifer is waaaay cool and I dont know much about Oakglen
August 5th, 2009 at 3:35 pm
No, not in a while. He did when the reg was down. Prob was not him.
August 5th, 2009 at 3:36 pm
thats evA and yes you can coach da D-line all you want =)
August 5th, 2009 at 3:39 pm
Can I be the water-boy? Imma spike that sh*t wit kool-aid fasho!
9-7!
August 5th, 2009 at 3:41 pm
Glenn comes in here for a minute now and again, but HE HATE THEM TROLLS though, so he splits when it gets deep…
August 5th, 2009 at 3:44 pm
If Jeff Garcia is outplayed, or even close to Charlie Frye, let the old man go. I don’t want to hear about him bitching through the whole season.
August 5th, 2009 at 3:44 pm
4evaRaider Says:
August 5th, 2009 at 3:34 pm
I dont think so,OAKlifer is waaaay cool and I dont know much about Oakglen
***********
Alright then I will hold open interviews with Oaklifer, Henery Lawrence, RR, and to satisfy the “GOONey” rule, Beeech.
Ok guy’s and Beeech lets start with your resumes!
August 5th, 2009 at 3:44 pm
Lady Raccoon, please stop trying so hard to be all butch! Talking football is not going to convince anyone that you’re anything but a girly-girl who loves musicals and painting her toenails.
So when is the next time you’re going to pretend to be out and about in South Sacramento? After flaking out of our last two meetings, I’m wondering what kind of excuse you’ll come up with this time.
You’re such a tease, Lady!
August 5th, 2009 at 3:45 pm
AZ Raider 4 president!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
give us kool aid or give us ???
August 5th, 2009 at 3:45 pm
Oops evA.
August 5th, 2009 at 3:46 pm
We’ll start with non practicers: Garcia, Asomugha, CJohnson, Ekejiuba, GWarren.
……………………………………………..
Whoa, rest the starting CB’s Cable? Aso is probably sore from that hip bump he got yesterday but whats up with CJOHNSON?
August 5th, 2009 at 3:46 pm
=)
August 5th, 2009 at 3:47 pm
I am near Folsom and Florin Perkins today Beechya.
Come on down.
August 5th, 2009 at 3:48 pm
yep Dirty,my daughter said when she was like 4 that I’ve been a Raider fan for ever so that was the moniker I went with,hence 4eva
August 5th, 2009 at 3:49 pm
eva, you back up and runnin for good?
August 5th, 2009 at 3:52 pm
He beat me to it. RT @Jerrymcd: Scout.com saying Barnes out 4-6 weeks with ankle fracture . . . we’ll see if Cable confirms after practice.
35 minutes ago from web
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Dang, don’t start Barnes he’s gonna be rusty by the time he gets back…
August 5th, 2009 at 3:54 pm
Lady, is that near the North McDonald’s or the AMC Theatres showing that new animated alien movie?
I’ll be in line buying popcorn and some gummy worms in about 20 minutes, if you cruise on down I’ll buy you a ticket and then tease you about how much weight you’ve gained. You know how sensitive chicks are about their weight – it’ll be hilarious.
Now what’s this silly game you want to play about resumes? I’ll tell ya, I just cannot figure women like you out!
August 5th, 2009 at 3:54 pm
Thank God for registration. That was getting old.
I can’t believe Barnes is hurt. That really stinks. It hurts our line because I felt he would be our best player for the RT tackle. Now we’re gambling.
August 5th, 2009 at 3:57 pm
Word 24… Bad news, but he thought he was gonna get Mario’s spot and that ain’t hapnin. 1 year deal and he’s out 6 weeks possibly? Not confirmed by the Raiders yet, but if its true we’re not gonna see what he can do at RT this year. He’ll probably be released no?
August 5th, 2009 at 3:57 pm
DirtyRaccoon
yep up and runnin 4 good
August 5th, 2009 at 3:58 pm
Hayez, for all of your tough talk about handing people their asses in here, when are you going to answer my question? Name one thing Al Davis has done that’s worth criticizing, in your view? I’ve only seen you criticize him in the abstract, saying he’s “made mistakes”. He’s “not perfect”. Get specific. I want to hear you name one, specifically. Name one mistake Al has made that’s cost us a couple of seasons. If he’s never made such a mistake, then he really doesn’t deserve any criticism at all, does he? I mean, if that were the case, none of this is his fault. You say Al’s made mistakes. For once in your life, man up and name one specifically. Put Al Davis’s name on one specific move that played a significant part in the fact that we haven’t won more than 5 games in a season since 2002. If you can’t do it, then you are in fact the Davis kook aid drinking shill little bytch that all of us have been accusing you of being, all along. It’s that simple.
August 5th, 2009 at 3:59 pm
Raiders added a new offensive lineman. He’s No. 65, waiting for Raiders to give a name.
3 minutes ago from mobile web
…………
bydavidwhite .
Just got told Chris O’Neill, an undrafted TE who was moved to TE, was released.
2 minutes ago from mobile web
………….
buisness….
August 5th, 2009 at 4:00 pm
jim otto is there and they released O’neil a TE
August 5th, 2009 at 4:01 pm
Al davis too…
August 5th, 2009 at 4:01 pm
MAN wish I was in Napa
August 5th, 2009 at 4:03 pm
If true, congrats Mario Henderson. The left tackle competition is over before it started.
39 minutes ago from web
August 5th, 2009 at 4:06 pm
We have a new o-linemen allready replacing barnes who is out 6 weeks???????
August 5th, 2009 at 4:08 pm
this is all it said
Raiders added a new offensive lineman. He’s No. 65, waiting for Raiders to give a name.
4 minutes ago from mobile web
August 5th, 2009 at 4:09 pm
Dang Amy’s out there too LOL.
August 5th, 2009 at 4:10 pm
Hayzydaisy39 did his best impression of a troll yesterday, nice try impersonating me.
I am no longer going to blame MR for all the trolling.
MR is at least a stand up and can admit he is wrong.
Hayzydaisy39, is just a schill, who works for Mr. Davis.
Hayzydaisy you are a fraud in my book, I see why MR owns you….
MR, my bad for yesterday…
August 5th, 2009 at 4:11 pm
Kwame Harris is still in line at EDD!!
August 5th, 2009 at 4:12 pm
MR, Hayzydaisy wont answer you coz he is a fraud…..
He will keep toting the company line coz Mr. Davis
is his meal ticket….
August 5th, 2009 at 4:15 pm
4evaRaider Says:
August 5th, 2009 at 3:57 pm
DirtyRaccoon
yep up and runnin 4 good
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Alright!
August 5th, 2009 at 4:16 pm
It is Seth Wand # 65
August 5th, 2009 at 4:17 pm
NOT
August 5th, 2009 at 4:19 pm
Maybe Berry Sims can come back to be our 7th OL?
August 5th, 2009 at 4:19 pm
I think people should try and be a little more like AZ. He serves up kool-aid, tells everyone it’s kool-aid, then he smokes bomb and roots for the Raidahs regardless of what’s crackin off in media-land.
9-7!
53 MEN AND COUNTLESS FANS ALL COMMITTED TO ONE PURPOSE!
DRINK IT!
August 5th, 2009 at 4:22 pm
AZ Raider, is good in my book. A fine upstanding member of the NATION…
August 5th, 2009 at 4:24 pm
Hell ya Thec! RAIDER ON!
August 5th, 2009 at 4:25 pm
I second that Thec.
Your alright AZ.
August 5th, 2009 at 4:26 pm
RAIDER on.
August 5th, 2009 at 4:27 pm
Brian Dawkins injuried at the donkeys camp….
August 5th, 2009 at 4:29 pm
Bush puttin the blocks DOWN! First time I’ve heard his name all camp.
August 5th, 2009 at 4:30 pm
Thec07 Says:
August 5th, 2009 at 4:27 pm
Brian Dawkins injuried at the donkeys camp….
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Ha! I was hoping a SD defensive starter would get unlucky in camp, but that will do LOL.
August 5th, 2009 at 4:32 pm
yep AZ Raider is da MAN!!!
August 5th, 2009 at 4:34 pm
Who in the hell is 4evaRaider????????
I remeber a guy back in the day had that handle but who is this new guy??????????????
Just jokin Bro, welcome back…..
August 5th, 2009 at 4:35 pm
Jerry, David White is eatin your lunch, get with it man.
August 5th, 2009 at 4:35 pm
I hope the new raiders lineman is levi jones.(: sommone with more potential than green.
August 5th, 2009 at 4:36 pm
Brad Lekerkerkerkerker
August 5th, 2009 at 4:37 pm
Alright, Lady Raccoon, I’m walking into the AMC in South Sacramento right now. I’m sure you’re on your way – I know you don’t want to be known as the chick who challenged me to a rumble and then flaked THREE TIMES.
Anyway, I’ll get a box of popcorn and wait here by the entrance for you to show up. I’m guessing a woman like you really enjoys starbust (all the colors of the rainbow!), so I’ll grab a pack for you.
See you soon, right Lady?
August 5th, 2009 at 4:41 pm
4evaRaider Says:
August 5th, 2009 at 4:32 pm
yep AZ Raider is da MAN!!!
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Darren McFadden is da MAN, but I’m a close second… LOL, Thanks 4evA!
53 MEN, COUNTLESS FANS, …..ONE PURPOSE!
DRINK IT!
9-7!
August 5th, 2009 at 4:41 pm
Seth Wand No 65…
August 5th, 2009 at 4:44 pm
Wand is a camp body. I didn’t know he still played for us. Was he kickin it on the practice squad or what?
August 5th, 2009 at 4:44 pm
seth wand??? nooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!
August 5th, 2009 at 4:45 pm
Damn al. can you please picka F***n baller.lol
August 5th, 2009 at 4:45 pm
No. 65 is Seth Wand . . .
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August 5th, 2009 at 4:46 pm
post 560, LOL
August 5th, 2009 at 4:46 pm
Big scrap: Alston pops McFadden good, DMac rips Alston’s helmet off, yelling and pushing ensues.
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Don’t mess wit my boy Jon! Ehhhh, a little camp action don’t hurt no one, but damn, pick on Rankin LOL!
August 5th, 2009 at 4:50 pm
Big scrap: Alston pops McFadden good, DMac rips Alston’s helmet off, yelling and pushing ensues.
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August 5th, 2009 at 4:51 pm
Meanwhile, back on the field, Terdell Sands is struggling to break through on first team snaps.
5 minutes ago from mobile web Then, Fargas rushes in gives running shove to Morrison.
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Fargas!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
August 5th, 2009 at 4:52 pm
yes I do not believe knockin out dmac is a bright idea. Rankin should be the team crash test dummy. him and gary russel. Oh yeah, john holland and todd watkins also.lol
August 5th, 2009 at 4:53 pm
if Sanda stop’s playing patty-cake he might do some good this year,imo
August 5th, 2009 at 4:54 pm
sounds like they r cuttin loose a little bit
August 5th, 2009 at 4:57 pm
Dmac20 Says:
August 5th, 2009 at 4:52 pm
yes I do not believe knockin out dmac is a bright idea. Rankin should be the team crash test dummy. him and gary russel. Oh yeah, john holland and todd watkins also.lol
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Ha-ha! I’ll never forget last season during the Texans game, Fargas ran off LT, Holland was out of position and missed his blocking assignment, Fargas didnt care though, He plowed right over Holland LOL! Cost us a 1st down though and ended up kicking 3… Anyways, yeah Holland’s not gonna make it this time I don’t think…
August 5th, 2009 at 4:58 pm
Line blocking drills: Henderson 4, Scott 0; Carlisle 2, Sands 0; Wand 2, Shaughnessy 0.
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August 5th, 2009 at 5:00 pm
Line blocking drills: Henderson 4, Scott 0; Carlisle 2, Sands 0; Wand 2, Shaughnessy 0.
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Henderson holding down the blind side! But C’mon Scott, you gotta shed that sh*t!
August 5th, 2009 at 5:05 pm
I would rather have Henderson dominate everyone in practice and never allow a sack even at the expense of the DE. We gotta keep JR upright and Henderson needs to dominate EVERYONE!!! Scott can get his licks against other QB’s.
August 5th, 2009 at 5:07 pm
Looks to me like Brown is unseating Morrison. Something has to change with that run defense. Morrison (SLB) Brown (MLB) Howard (WLB)?
August 5th, 2009 at 5:07 pm
I hear that 24…
August 5th, 2009 at 5:08 pm
Terrapin Says:
August 5th, 2009 at 5:07 pm
Looks to me like Brown is unseating Morrison. Something has to change with that run defense. Morrison (SLB) Brown (MLB) Howard (WLB)?
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Yeah, thats my depth chart!
August 5th, 2009 at 5:13 pm
I’ve been hoping for a run stuffing MLB…I just never thought it would be Brown. I thought Frantz Joseph would surprise but hey…if Brown can stay healthy, hes a tackle machine and Morrison’s speed is better suited for the outside anyways. It makes blitzing from the OLB’s alot better as well.
August 5th, 2009 at 5:16 pm
My boy Kirk was killin the blitz drills today too. I think its a good fit, but Morrison would still be callin signals though, even it Brown takes the MLB spot.
August 5th, 2009 at 5:18 pm
Morrison started at Weak Outside Linebacker when he was first drafted. I was surprised to see him move to MLB once Thomas Howard was drafted. In my opinion, Morrison should have stayed at Weak Outside Linebacker, Howard should have started at Strong Outside Linebacker because hes faster and more athletic than Morrison and he would have been better in coverage vs. TE’s and RB’s. Danny Clark was that Run Stopping Force we needed. I just never understood why that never happened.
August 5th, 2009 at 5:20 pm
AZ – Not necessarily. Its up to John Marshall to determine who’s better at calling his plays. This is a similiar system but its Marshall’s playbook. The language should be different. Maybe Marshall likes Brown more in the Middle, not just cuz hes a better tackler but maybe its because Brown makes better reads and puts the defense into better situations. Those things are factored in as well. Maybe Morrison was bad at doing that and that could be part of the reason the defense failed with him at the Middle.
August 5th, 2009 at 5:20 pm
Bush excelling with the blocks will without question move him ahead of Fargas.
August 5th, 2009 at 5:22 pm
The MLB is generally the QB of the Defense and he has to keep the Defense in line and make the audibles and reads. That stuff can be overlooked but its extremely important. Ray Lewis is a master at that outside of being a great player. Its fun to watch him across from someone like Peyton Manning because Manning will change something and Lewis will retaliate with his own audible and confuse Manning so Manning will change again and Lewis will do the same. Its a game of chess if you have the right pieces.
August 5th, 2009 at 5:24 pm
Looks like Joseph and Boschetti will back up Warren and Kelly.
August 5th, 2009 at 5:25 pm
The issue is partly Morrison’s pending free agency. He will NOT be paid top ten LB $, so the writing is already on the wall.
August 5th, 2009 at 5:26 pm
I’m not gonna place all the blame for our run D on 52, that fasho! Nnamdi, Kirk, Howard all said Rob never got on ‘em too hard about assigned gaps and stuff. What-ev though Robs gone, and whatever leads to more “W’s” I’m down wit it.
So long as 52 & 53 stay on the roster and they are both on the field somewhere in 3 LB sets, i won’t boycott LOL.
August 5th, 2009 at 5:31 pm
AZ – Don’t get me wrong. I’m not blaming Morrison alone. Its hard to determine whether the problem was the players, the coaching or both. In my mind and with Marshall’s experience, he knows what to look for. The fact that Morrison is being pushed out a little bit says there are some holes in Morrison’s game or maybe Brown is just better than we thought? Either way, competition brings the best out of players and being that we don’t have a true backup to MLB, its not a bad idea to get 2 people ready, just as you would a backup QB.
I think theres also something to the last year on Morrison’s contract. This is a prove it contract and usually, Al Davis doesn’t overspend here but he may give Morrison a decent contract if he proves hes worth it after the season. Fact is…if we go into next season without a salary cap, Morrison does not hit free agency because of the rules and will have 1 more year left to prove things and maybe Al gives him a contract right away or after that year but he’ll have the money without a cap for sure.
August 5th, 2009 at 5:32 pm
“Pads are popping and tension is rising in a 9-on-7 drill at Raiders camp. LB Jon Alston, who was in a scrap with TE Tony Stewart on Tuesday, got into it with RB Darren McFadden. Alston had his helmet ripped off during a drill and confronted McFadden, who threw the ball at him. F-bombs aplenty.”
- via CBSSports.com
August 5th, 2009 at 5:33 pm
TBranch playing run very well, forced first fumble of camp (McFadden)
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Good job Branch! C’mon DMAC, don’t start that sh*t!
August 5th, 2009 at 5:35 pm
http://www.knbr.com/common/global_audio/201/10769.mp3
Safety Mike Mitchell interview on KNBR this morning. One thing of note…Mitchell said him and Branch are battling it out for the SS position while Huff and Eugene are battling for the FS position. I thought it would be Branch and Mitchell at FS and SS. I guess not?
August 5th, 2009 at 5:39 pm
bydavidwhite Terdell Sands getting stood up a ton, all chest-up and no angle on McQuistan, Satele. Coach telling him all about it.
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I still think Warren plays better than Sands.
August 5th, 2009 at 5:39 pm
DirtyRaccoon Says:
August 5th, 2009 at 4:16 pm
It is Seth Wand # 65
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My man on the field came through for me on this one. He got it before Jerry did.
August 5th, 2009 at 5:40 pm
24-I’m with ya…
i think of Lechler, Morrison and Howard the same way I think of Nnamdi. Gotta keep ‘em with the Silver and Black. Home grown ya know? Sebass too… If we draft ‘em and grow ‘em, i get attached to them, and sometimes not for the best. Chaz Schilens too! If he builds off of last year, he’ll make the list.. He better, I ordered his jersey LOL.
August 5th, 2009 at 5:40 pm
45 minutes before!!!
August 5th, 2009 at 5:45 pm
jhill Says:
August 5th, 2009 at 5:24 pm
Looks like Joseph and Boschetti will back up Warren and Kelly.
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Its still early in camp. At least the coaches are riding on Sands to get better
August 5th, 2009 at 5:46 pm
Jerrymcd Three horns . . .practice concludes . . .
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August 5th, 2009 at 5:47 pm
Sands just seems like a big man and thats about it. You’d think every man his size could dominate in some way but I guess not.
August 5th, 2009 at 5:48 pm
I think its a transition thats all. In the end Branch will be moved to FS and Mitchell will be SS. Branch has more cover speed, right for FS. Mitchell is a bigger, a head knocker, right for SS. They both have a nose for the ball, a good pair.
It may not happen until mid/late season (maybe next year). But I believe its only a matter of time. Mitchell is coming from a very small program and needs to prove he can play at this level first ..earn his stripes.
August 5th, 2009 at 5:51 pm
ANYBODY HEAR ANYTHING ABOUT MR. RUSSELL ROLLING HIS ANKLE DURING PRACTICE ?
August 5th, 2009 at 5:54 pm
Dirt-Lot – It wasn’t a serious sprained ankle. Nothing to worry about.
August 5th, 2009 at 5:56 pm
Put another way: logic dictates that you don’t draft a SS in the 2nd round to sit the bench (i.e. have him battle with Branch who you already know is special and going to be a starter). Mitchell will be SS – Branch FS. They both must get on the field. Its just a matter of time.
August 5th, 2009 at 5:56 pm
24 – good lookin out with that “Mad Mike” interview!
Kid’s a class act!
August 5th, 2009 at 5:57 pm
THANK’S 4 THE INFO 24, JUST HEAERD HE TURNED IT THAT’S ALL.
August 5th, 2009 at 5:59 pm
Alright Nation, signing out…
9-7!
JAVON WALKER COMBACK PLAYER OF THE YEAR!
CHARGERS REIN AS AFC WEST CHAMPS STOPS SEPT 14TH 2009!
53 MEN AND COUNTLESS FANS COMMITTED TO ONE PURPOSE!
RAIDER ON!
DRINK IT!
PLAYOFFBOUND!
August 5th, 2009 at 6:01 pm
I would almost want Mitchell to be the FS. He seems to cover the whole field real well and he would have the play in front of him so it would be easier to lay the big hits down more often.
August 5th, 2009 at 6:02 pm
I am not a kool-aid drinker by any stretch. But I like what I am hearing from this training camp. Everything is refreshingly normal and good.
People are fighting for jobs…the practices are seemingly crisp according to the reporters…young players are embracing their role…there is physicality out there…
They will still have their ups and downs this year…but this is looking to be pretty good so far.
Let’s hope they keep progressing.
Mitchell and Branch? I say why not. If Mitchell is close to Huff/Eugene…then lets roll….Branch seems to be a cover machine that can hit….Nice
August 5th, 2009 at 6:03 pm
bydavidwhite Asomugha has strained hip flexor, Chris Johnson strained knee, Cable said nothing serious.
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bydavidwhite Khalif Barnes does have a broken ankle, out 6-8 weeks.
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August 5th, 2009 at 6:06 pm
8 weeks would have Barnes ready by September 30th but that may not include any rehab. If the rehab is included in that timeframe and you never know…he could play his first game during Week 4 @ the Houston Texans.
August 5th, 2009 at 6:06 pm
The Texans game is on October 4th btw.
August 5th, 2009 at 6:08 pm
The coaching staff better start preparing Barnes mentally on how to play RT.
August 5th, 2009 at 6:11 pm
Maybe the Barnes injury is a sign from God for Henderson? It is his destiny to become the Dominating LT for the Oakland Raiders for at least the next 10 years. I like it.
August 5th, 2009 at 6:15 pm
Terdell Sands getting stood up regularly .Time to move on, his days may be numbered
August 5th, 2009 at 6:19 pm
Lynn from Snot Says:
August 5th, 2009 at 6:15 pm
Terdell Sands getting stood up regularly .Time to move on, his days may be numbered
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Yeah…he’s too old to be doing that stuff. If he was a rookie or early in his career…ok…but he’s going into his 9th yr.
But he still has time to get it right…Probably getting good coaching for the first time
August 5th, 2009 at 6:19 pm
Well we know Henderson has the LT job all locked up. What’s McQuistan’s status? Can he get that RT job from Green?
August 5th, 2009 at 6:22 pm
Bottom line, they both must get on the field. Its only a matter of time. Branch is faster, about 15-20lbs lighter, former CB and can tackle. Mitchell is a bit slower, heavier/well-built, stocky, stays on his feet well in traffic, sniffs out the ball and can tackle.
Mitchell is more of the prototypical SS. Being able to cause havoc with force fumbles and battle in the trenches given his body type. While I’ll put Branch at FS given his ability to cover ground fast and make plays being a former CB.
August 5th, 2009 at 6:23 pm
Henderson’s got LT wrapped up. I think he already did before Barnes’ injury.
That’s tough news about Barnes. O-line is getting a bit scary:
– Barnes is going to miss at least the first 3-4 games of the season.
– Gallery isn’t going to have much time to get to full strength/shape before Week 1 coming off his appendectomy.
– Satele is coming off shoulder surgery.
– McQuistan isn’t a great system fit to fill in at RT.
– Carlisle is getting up there in years.
– Cornell Green has pending legal issues.
Yikes!! I kind of doubt Seth Wand is the answer either.
Hopefully Marten comes around or somebody. Who’s available on the waiver wire? It’s gotta be slim pickins. Any ZBS specialists?
August 5th, 2009 at 6:25 pm
That 2007 draft, as time passes, is looking to go down in history as a very significant achievement for a ball club. Overtime, maybe even one of the best drafts in history.
Russell, Miller, Henderson, Bush all in one draft. That’s a QB, TE, LT and RB in one draft. AMAZING
August 5th, 2009 at 6:27 pm
One thing I’ll say is I don’t think Cornell Green is as bad as most seem to think. He was starting at RT opposite Mario those last few games of 2008 when the offense came alive. He’s no Pro Bowler but we should be able to get away with starting him for at least a few weeks.
August 5th, 2009 at 6:31 pm
# Terrapin Says:
August 5th, 2009 at 6:25 pm
That 2007 draft, as time passes, is looking to go down in history as a very significant achievement for a ball club. Overtime, maybe even one of the best drafts in history.
Russell, Miller, Henderson, Bush all in one draft. That’s a QB, TE, LT and RB in one draft. AMAZING
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Totally agree. Don’t forget these guys from that 2007 draft too though: stud PR/WR Johnnie Lee Higgins; FB Oren O’Neal; and who knows, maybe DE Jay Richardson will develop and be a solid contributor for years to come.
August 5th, 2009 at 6:36 pm
Barnes is hurt,..omg…in case you all werent aware, the dudes a f*ckin bum, no other teams wanted him, especially the team that didnt offer him a dollar to stay, and they know him better then anyone else does…I only wish he was done for the year.
August 5th, 2009 at 6:38 pm
Tackle is a concern now. I was looking forward to Barnes moving to RT. I think that could’ve gave the line a huge boost. Green is serviceable but must be replaced asap. If Mario goes down anytime soon – we’re screwed.
August 5th, 2009 at 6:39 pm
Chris, I liked Green as a run blocker, it seemed like we had quite a few holes opening up because of him. However his pass blocking left much to be desired, and I think he was penalized an awful lot.
August 5th, 2009 at 6:41 pm
Here are the 5 best free agent OTs available, according to Scout.com:
1. Levi Jones, 6-5, 307, 7 yrs pro
2. Mark Tauscher, 6-4, 315, 9
3. Jon Runyan, 6-7, 330, 13
4. Jonas Jennings, 6-3, 335, 8
5. Kwame Harris, 6-7, 320, 6
We all remember Kwame from last year. Not sure why the other guys haven’t been signed by another team yet or if any are good fits for a ZBS system. Jones was good early in his career but Cinci obviously got down on him, drafted Andre Smith and cut him.
August 5th, 2009 at 6:47 pm
2007 draft Kittens draft just sayin
August 5th, 2009 at 6:48 pm
SnB
I agree, I like what I’m hearing too. They seem to be executing, Henderson’s dominating, players taking ownership of their product, no drama. (Fingers Crossed)
August 5th, 2009 at 6:50 pm
Wow…lots of stuff happening. Here’s hoping JaMarcus’ ankle isn’t too bad. What a near-disaster. Don’t go too far, Southwick.
Totally agree with Terp about Branch — he could be a special talent at S.
I wonder about J. Holland — he’s quite a talent himself, seemingly ready to make his mark, but he’s being mighty quiet right now — maybe he’s lurking under the radar until the team gets a better feel for what all these fresh faces have to offer.
Love the fact DMC is fired up…and that he got popped a little bit. Keep it tough, boys! Just stay off DMC’s toes.
August 5th, 2009 at 6:51 pm
Branch and Mitchell next safety tandem for ten years.
August 5th, 2009 at 6:51 pm
Oaklifer
August 5th, 2009 at 6:54 pm
It’d be nice to get Burgess in camp as well. I’m hopeful Trevor Scott can turn into a great pass rusher. He showed some flashes last season. But there were also a number of times last season where he got stone-walled and wasn’t even in the same zip code as the opposing QB after 4-5 seconds. I have mixed feelings about the news that Henderson is man-handling Scott. Do we have a cornerstone LT or is our upstart DE just not that great after all?
August 5th, 2009 at 6:59 pm
# Lynn from Snot Says:
August 5th, 2009 at 6:51 pm
Branch and Mitchell next safety tandem for ten years.
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Hope so, boss. Hoping they both crack the lineup in time for Week 1. There’s nobody I’m more anxious to see play next Thursday vs. Dallas than Mitchell. Others on that list: JaMarcus, Schilens, Nick Miller, McFadden, Alston, Scott and Branch.
August 5th, 2009 at 6:59 pm
Chris — I don’t think having a mopey, pi$$ed-off Burgess around the locker room would work too well with this team.
I say keep all the negativity out of the locker room as long as possible…it’s been too refreshing lately. Trade Burgess as early as possible, because he has many friends…and it will only be ugly for everybody.
August 5th, 2009 at 7:02 pm
Henderson dominated pro-bowlers last season.
I don’t think I’ve ever seen an offensive lineman make as stark a difference in performance as the Mario/Kwame exchange.
August 5th, 2009 at 7:03 pm
KK — That’s one of your best posts ever. Henderson proved Lance wrong, big-time.
August 5th, 2009 at 7:06 pm
24,
Thank you for posting the Mitchell interview. I enjoyed it a lot.
Nation,
We should start Branch and Mitchell. Branch at FS, and Mitchell at SS.
August 5th, 2009 at 7:08 pm
Glad to see I’m not the only Raider fan dreaming of mitchell/branch starting and for a lot of years. The second coming of atkinson/tatum !!
August 5th, 2009 at 7:10 pm
Branch is 6′0 205, runs a sub 4.4, and played CB at Conn. He should play FS, and he can hit too.
Mitchell is 6′1 220, runs around 4.4, and can hit hard. We need him to play SS.
Together they should help with both the run and the pass.
August 5th, 2009 at 7:11 pm
NMF — I have to keep reminding myself that Mitchell’s a rookie. Hard to temper my enthusiasm for rookie Mike Mitchell!
August 5th, 2009 at 7:12 pm
# KoolKell Says:
August 5th, 2009 at 7:02 pm
Henderson dominated pro-bowlers last season.
I don’t think I’ve ever seen an offensive lineman make as stark a difference in performance as the Mario/Kwame exchange.
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True. My question is why wasn’t he in there sooner.
Kwame was atrocious last season but Cable didn’t make the switch to Mario until Week 14, even though Cable took over after Week 4. It’s still one of the biggest concerns I have about Cable. That, the fake FG vs. KC and the failure to utilize McFadden/Bush more.
Don’t want to be negative though. Cable was a rookie after all. Sounds like things are running really good heading into this season, so I’m optimistic.
August 5th, 2009 at 7:14 pm
Try commenting on the new post!
You cant!
August 5th, 2009 at 7:16 pm
We can’t post on the new thread!!
August 5th, 2009 at 7:17 pm
What about Pears is he going to challenge Mop Handle for the RT job?
August 5th, 2009 at 7:22 pm
Conflicting stories out there. Some say 4-6, others say 6-8. I guess we take the median, 6?
August 5th, 2009 at 7:23 pm
666,
I hope so.
August 5th, 2009 at 7:27 pm
Hey Raider Fans! I absolutely love this time of year! And I have a lot of optimism for ‘09!
August 5th, 2009 at 7:32 pm
So I want to ask the forum, here’s the deal, after 26 years of my Sunday’s living and dying on the Raiders, my wife is taking me to my first game (NFL game as well, I’m a Canadian) Sept 27th, to watch the Silver and Black hammer the Donks!!
What do I have to check out at the tailgate party? Where is the best section to see the game? If not the Black hole? Where should we stay? How should we get to the game? Taxi? Rental? Any advice at all!
August 5th, 2009 at 7:34 pm
Chris — Re: Cable making some “iffy” decisions as a rookie HC. No matter how much I supported his being named HC, I really Cable was in over his head last year…and I think ANY Head Coach in his position would’ve been, including greats like Madden.
Rarely, if ever, has a new coach taken over a program so disjointed due to such rapid (and failed) systemic turnover (and yes, other things). Cable’s done an admirable job since getting his feet under him…hopefully he’s got his Coordinator’s hat on a little straighter this year.
August 5th, 2009 at 7:49 pm
testing…
testing…
sibilus, sibilus…
August 5th, 2009 at 7:51 pm
Roch R Says:
August 5th, 2009 at 7:32 pm
So I want to ask the forum, here’s the deal, after 26 years of my Sunday’s living and dying on the Raiders, my wife is taking me to my first game (NFL game as well, I’m a Canadian) Sept 27th, to watch the Silver and Black hammer the Donks!!
What do I have to check out at the tailgate party? Where is the best section to see the game? If not the Black hole? Where should we stay? How should we get to the game? Taxi? Rental? Any advice at all!
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sure… you’re canadian right???
wear blue and orange…
happy colors…
everyone will absolutely adore you…
August 5th, 2009 at 7:58 pm
Roch R Says:
What do I have to check out at the tailgate party? Where is the best section to see the game? If not the Black hole? Where should we stay? How should we get to the game? Taxi? Rental? Any advice at all!
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Roch — You either bring your tailgate party with you, or you join somebody else’s.
There are plenty of Official Raiders Booster Clubs listed @ Raiders.com…pick one of the local clubs (Vaca-Valley is one of my faves for out-of-towners) and see about joining their party. You’ll be well taken care of…and you’ll meet life-long Raiders friends.
As for hotels near the stadium…there are a few decent places to stay…but not much “activity” around them for tourists. Make sure the hotel you pick has a restaurant (and bar!), or has one next to it. If you’re staying for more than an overnight…a rental car is in order. Multiple taxi rides can get expensive, since most tourist-friendly things to do are not near the stadium.
The Raiders (and frequently their opponents) stay in a sequestered part of the Oakland Airport Hilton. You may find ex-players and coaches (even HOF’ers) wandering the grounds/rest/bar there. Autographs happen! The Hilton’s a bit more expensive than a few other hotels nearby…but they’ve got all you need.
Here are a few hotels that are prepared to handle Raiders fans for game weekends…and they have shuttles to/from games, and sometimes other game-weekend activities.
Be careful picking a hotel in Oakland, only a handful nearby the stadium are worthy of referal. Hook-up with a club to tailgate, and make a reservation to one of these places, and you’ll be set-up!
Oakland Airport Hilton…510-635-5000
Oakland Park Plaza…510-635-5300
Oakland Holiday Inn…877-410-6681
Go Raiders!
August 5th, 2009 at 7:58 pm
nice Pete, funny, I work for a major american company with many american co-workers, never get tired of the canuck jokes…
But seriously seeing my first game live is going to be huge, I’ve been there for Plunkett, suffered through Mark Wilson, Jay Schreoder, Steve Buerlein, Hos, almost got there in 02, but finally my first game, and I don’t want to miss a thing!
August 5th, 2009 at 8:03 pm
Great info Hayes!! Thanks! Which section is the best to see the game from?
August 5th, 2009 at 8:04 pm
Are club seats worth the price?
August 5th, 2009 at 8:25 pm
Roch –
Club seats are worth the price…but, if you want the rowdy Raiders crowd experience, maybe the stands are the place for you — especially if you actually like being outside.
The Black Hole is a blast…but it’s packed, and scalped tickets on sold-out games are expensive. West side is the place to be in late afternoon, if you don’t like the sun in your eyes. The high-up “Mt. Davis” East-side seats are waaaay high, but you can see everything. And I mean everything.
There are great seats all over, though, high and low. Some of my faves are in the corners, on either the 1st or 2nd levels. Great crowds in those sections, too — not too many costumes to peek-around, either!
Many Saturday nights before Sunday games (and some Sunday nights after wins)…the Oakland Airport Hilton bar is the place to be to get a hat or shirt autographed…bring your own marker!
August 5th, 2009 at 8:39 pm
JMac’s new post (two ahead of this one) takes comments now. Later
August 6th, 2009 at 6:45 pm
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October 26th, 2011 at 11:18 pm
flat roof repairs…
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December 27th, 2011 at 10:57 am
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