Burgess nets probably a third and a fifth
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Thursday, August 6th, 2009 at 9:28 pm in Oakland Raiders.
Here’s the compensation for the deal which sent Derrick Burgess to the New England Patriots, as relayed by beat Steve Corkran, who called while I was driving home from Napa:
As it stands, the Raiders get a third and a fourth round draft pick in 2010. The Patriots, however, wanted to give Oakland a third and a fifth. Problem is, they don’t currently have a fifth-round draft pick. So it was stipulated that if New England acquired a fifth-round pick from someone else, that pick would be dealt to Oakland.
So expect the Patriots to acquire a fifth-round pick from someone else so they can keep their selection in the fourth round.
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August 6th, 2009 at 9:31 pm
bfd
August 6th, 2009 at 9:33 pm
we’ll take the 3rd rounder.
August 6th, 2009 at 9:34 pm
not bad. but why are we always dealing with the freakin pats? burgess will thrive in n.e. it would have been nice to have both ellis and burgess. time to step up, trevor!!
August 6th, 2009 at 9:35 pm
looks good to me.an extra 3rd-we’ll take it.
August 6th, 2009 at 9:37 pm
Mark this down, the fastest 40 time available in the 3rd round is who we traded Burgess for.
August 6th, 2009 at 9:41 pm
i know i’m probably wrong,but i believe NE has peaked.their def. is old and Belicheat is trying to fill it with older,on the decline players.they have to replace their LBs due to age.if their off. doesn’t light things up,they will fade.
August 6th, 2009 at 9:47 pm
In the third round with the 90th pick, the Oakland Raiders select Fasty McSpeedster, CB from NE Southern Louisiana Tech.
August 6th, 2009 at 9:50 pm
Lefty12,
Name NEs LBs.
August 6th, 2009 at 9:54 pm
I begged for the Raiders to go to a 3-4 with Burgess and Howard at OLB and Morrison and whoever to play ILB, with Kelly and Richardson being perfect fits as 3-4 DE’s. Burgess should thrive in that system, but as far as we’re concerned, we’re never going to switch schemes and burgess can’t stop the run as a Strong Side DE and refused to play the weak side – I’ll take the third and whatever else we get – that will give us extra ammunition to trade up a few spots (from 32 of course
) in the first round next year or make other plays – to get a 3rd for Burgess at this stage is great for us – he’ll probably do well in NE but I’d rather have Ellis and the pick – he would have been gone next year anyway with no compensation and this way our run defense will be better and we won’t lose any sacks (Ellis may be better at this stage than burgess anyway given all burgess’ injury problems and the fact that he’s 32 and a speed rusher).
Moving forward, Mike Mitchell better be awesome because Ron Brace was sitting there for the taking for us in Round 2 and Terdell is being outplayed by a bust top 5 pick in Warren who is a three technique not a one gap run stuffer.
Al finally has all his speed toys at the skill positions and the franchise QB (everyone here needs to “root for Route” because unless we have three top flight corners Al may draft another – all we need are a couple more pieces on the oline and a NT and we’re highly competitive. Two more good drafts and we have the makings of a perennial playoff team (assuming all goes well with our current core players, all of which I am very high on).
August 6th, 2009 at 9:55 pm
sweep the leg – you beat me to my joke
August 6th, 2009 at 9:56 pm
so did Norco lol
August 6th, 2009 at 10:00 pm
Sounds like a decent deal especially IF the Raiders keep the 4th rounder. Burgess was leaving after this year anyway, so might as well get some picks or players in return for him. He will get hurt in NE anyways. Even IF the Pats do get a 5th, then the Raiders should try and trade down and get another 4th on draft day.
August 6th, 2009 at 10:03 pm
they already shipped out grabel(?),bruski(?) is old.they are resting their hopes on Mayo and mcKenzie who were drafted they last couple of years.the rest are FAs they have signed,but Grabel and Bruski were their 2 stars.
August 6th, 2009 at 10:04 pm
This trade just highlights the blatant hate the media has for the Raiders. We always get dogged for any and everything we do as an organization. The Patriots are the complete opposite and the media claims they are the best in the last 5-7 yrs. Their coach is the best, their QB is the best, their video guys are the best, etc, etc, etc….Yet the Pats are there to scoop up anything we fart.
August 6th, 2009 at 10:06 pm
They reached for Burgess cus just a couple weeks ago they tried to coax Willie McGhinest out of retirement. Al Davis knew that.
August 6th, 2009 at 10:07 pm
lets trade our 5th to the patriots for Wilfork LOL technically it would be wilfork for a 4th
August 6th, 2009 at 10:08 pm
Here Lefty I will help you out. Bruschi has 14 years in the league, Adalius Thomas has 10. They are hoping that Pierre Woods and Jerod Mayo develop. They probably will. Derrick Burgess is 9 years in.
August 6th, 2009 at 10:08 pm
Anybody know david whites twitter page?
August 6th, 2009 at 10:09 pm
they also lost 1 of the best safeties in the game in R. Harrison.
August 6th, 2009 at 10:13 pm
exactly Oakglenn.their star LBs are old and past their primes,and just because they drafted guys to fill their positions doesn’t mean they can fill their shoes.
August 6th, 2009 at 10:15 pm
And let’s not forget Lefty, tom Brady is in his 10th year. Joey Galloway is on their roster in his 15th year. And they are going with Sammy Morris (10th year), Kevin Faulk (11th year) and Fred Taylor (12th year) since Laurence Maroney has not panned out at RB. Oh, yeah, and Moss is now 12 years in.
August 6th, 2009 at 10:15 pm
What happened to all the B.J. Raji supporters? He’s holding out too. Also Eugene Monroe. I get more and more comfortable everyday we have DHB.
August 6th, 2009 at 10:16 pm
dmac,..asking that in here can get you banned.
August 6th, 2009 at 10:17 pm
Im trying to figure out why all you people in here are obsessing over the Patriots.
August 6th, 2009 at 10:18 pm
Damn! the patriots sound like the 2002 oakland raiders. OLD AS SH!T
August 6th, 2009 at 10:18 pm
With all those old guys the Pats have, they are gonna fall off at one time just like the Bucs. Then Belicheat will bail for a talented team with a bunch of 6-7 yr guys. He’s gonna be looking for Cable’s job.
August 6th, 2009 at 10:19 pm
# JT52 Says:
August 6th, 2009 at 10:18 pm
Damn! the patriots sound like the 2002 oakland raiders. OLD AS SH!T
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Exactly JT. You would’ve thought Gruden and Allen built the 09 New England roster.
August 6th, 2009 at 10:20 pm
# Norco Bob Says:
August 6th, 2009 at 10:17 pm
Im trying to figure out why all you people in here are obsessing over the Patriots.
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Not obsessing at all. Just stating the facts.
August 6th, 2009 at 10:21 pm
JT,..that old as sh*t team, from 2002,…the last team we had worth watching.
August 6th, 2009 at 10:21 pm
Put it any way you want glann.
August 6th, 2009 at 10:25 pm
what’s the matter bob,don’t you like discussing football?
August 6th, 2009 at 10:26 pm
I dont like discussing the Patriots,..if I did I would go to a Patriots blog.
August 6th, 2009 at 10:27 pm
Post #5 is 100% correct.
August 6th, 2009 at 10:28 pm
Yes they were great that year in 2002 but with essentially the same roster in 2003 we crumbled into 6 years of diaper sh!t
August 6th, 2009 at 10:29 pm
Im always right destri,..any of you fans going to the RNC saturday?
August 6th, 2009 at 10:30 pm
JT,..your point is we were old,..but that team won,..all the young teams since have sucked,..so if your argument is old teams suck,..you are wrong. The Raiders are young, but thankfully they got Lo Neal and Ellis, if not for them we likely go 3-13,…with them, 8-8 is possible.
August 6th, 2009 at 10:31 pm
I’ll be hugging the Stanford tree Saturday
August 6th, 2009 at 10:32 pm
the 2002 team looked old on superbowl sunday.
August 6th, 2009 at 10:32 pm
What is goin on at the farm saturday?
August 6th, 2009 at 10:33 pm
No they didnt look old, they looked like the other teams coach knew what they were doing before they did.
August 6th, 2009 at 10:35 pm
Yup I was not making an argument at all just stating how old we were LOL why does everyone wanna make an argument out of what someone else says.
Good job clearing things up NorcoBob.
And just to be even more clear my point was the Patriots time of losing will come soon enough. Even with a healthy Brady under center the QB can only carry a team so much. The Patriots will soon be in the shitter and we can all rejoice
August 6th, 2009 at 10:37 pm
he did.and our coaches and QB played right into his hands.
August 6th, 2009 at 10:37 pm
Fun time at the Colosseum…http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qwyKBvZ2vgQ
August 6th, 2009 at 10:37 pm
You can rejoice..I wont,..my happiness isnt predicated on what other teams do,..Im only interested in the Raiders winning again,..doesnt make me rejoice to see the Patriots lose,…as far as that goes, I dont see them losing anytime soon.
August 6th, 2009 at 10:38 pm
Lefty the Raiders lost the superbowl as soon as the Bucs beat Philly,…you cant change the entire playbook in a week,..maybe if we had two weeks and our center doesnt flip out.
August 6th, 2009 at 10:39 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qwyKBvZ2vgQ
August 6th, 2009 at 10:47 pm
you don’t change the playbook but you can change tendencies and nomenclature,which we didn’t due to our HC and Qb being too stubborn or stupid,however you wish to look at it.
August 6th, 2009 at 10:47 pm
Figures, that was the one time to decide to play the Super Bowl a week apart from the championship games. Conspiracy I tell you.
August 6th, 2009 at 10:50 pm
How did that Nebraska job go for ole Callahan?
August 6th, 2009 at 10:52 pm
but even with that being said,you are probably correct,TB would have beaten us anyway due to chuckies familiarity with the team.which brings up the question if he would have won a SB if he hadn’t played a team he formally coached and helped build?
August 6th, 2009 at 10:56 pm
Jerry:
What’s the story or Javon Walker? Not a peep in last two days. We were told last week that the dude really felt good, he was moving without pain and seemed to be playing at his previous ability while at Green Bay. The news was so good and so positive, we had a few guys making Javon the “come back player of the year!”
It would be better than awesome if Javon was the old Javon he was in Green Bay. We need a lucky break and that would be it. JR would have another deep threat throwing target. So get off the stool and go get the skinny on him and report back ASAP. Thanks
August 6th, 2009 at 10:58 pm
Nfl networks piece on the 2002 Bucs has Gruden showing the Defense how to defend Gannon and their signature play. Gruden plays Gannon in practice pump faking on a crossing route.
August 6th, 2009 at 11:05 pm
actually we did have 2 weeks before the super bowl. but even in 2 weeks u cant change an entire playbook
August 6th, 2009 at 11:07 pm
Lefty: Yes, TB was playing awesome under Gruden at the time.
However, TB should have lost the prior playoff game, they won on a fluke.
If we would have had any other coach, other than Callahan, we may have beat TB. If Barrett “I’m a drug freak when it really matters not to be” hadn’t freaked out in Tijuana, we may have won. But not with Callahan as our coach. He’s a bum and he proves that AL’s judgement was going down hill at the time…for making Callahan the head coach. Callahan wasn’t running our offense. RICH GANNON was running the offense, but Al gave the credit to Callahan??? You figure???
If Al Davis could have put his ego aside and worked with Gruden and NOT TRADE THE DUDE, we would have won two (2) SUPER BOWLS under Gruden.
Point the finger at Al Davis, he traded Gruden and threw away two (2) Super Bowls. Nice going Al.
August 6th, 2009 at 11:14 pm
Oakglenn Says:
August 6th, 2009 at 8:57 pm
Murphy is farther along in his development because of the coaching and players around him. Heyward-Bey would be more NFL ready if I was the Q at Maryland last year. Murphy had Urban Meyer and Tim Tebow to work with. Think that makes a difference??
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Yeah, it makes a difference, what 50 million?
August 6th, 2009 at 11:15 pm
good coaches and smart QBs can devise ways to disguise plays.you can run the same plays with small changes.the QB can change his cadence,pump twice instead of once before making his throw-little things like that.
August 6th, 2009 at 11:24 pm
Callahan got us to a SB with the same team Chuckie couldn’t.i don’t have any lost love for AD,but chuckie was leaving one way or the other.i also don’t believe we would have gotten to any SBs with him as coach,let alone win any.also,people biotch about continuity in our org.,well that is exactly why Callahan was named HC-for continuity.you let your hatred of Davis cloud your thinking.
August 6th, 2009 at 11:30 pm
lol. Watched video on NFL Network of fat Sapp claiming that he has assurances that Garcia will be the starting QB at the beginning of the season.
This guy cracks me up.
August 6th, 2009 at 11:40 pm
Murphy will be a starter this season.
August 6th, 2009 at 11:58 pm
Ah yes Super Bowl 37.
I remember a moment in the game when we had just scored 3 strait td’s cutting the lead to 13 and our defense was tightening the screws. We had Tampa on a third and long when they called the most bs pass interference call on a deep rout that Charles Woodson was covering. TB gets the first down, goes on to score and the rest is history. Sure the game went on to be a rout, but for a moment, we had them on the ropes, if only that call had not happened. Given the clock situation it could have been an entirely different ball game. That my friends was the last time as a Raider fan I can say, “We got screwed!”
August 7th, 2009 at 12:05 am
least i forget and someone hold my feet to the fire (honestly I did forget) the Gannon inteceptions led to the two additional scores but that was also after the fact that the Woodson call allowed TB to chew a bunch of time off the clock. Making it possible for TB to blitz like crazy the rest of the game and forcing Gannon to make those mistakes.
August 7th, 2009 at 12:14 am
Tampa actually rarely blitzed. It is very hard to blitz from a cover2 coverag because it leaves to large of a void in the middle of the field, where Garner and Brown would’ve chewed them up.
Gannon threw 2 int’s with zero pressure on him. He just had a bad game………period
We should’ve ran the football a lot more than we did, Tampa was dropping deep into the zones and the coaches just continued to pass. Wheatley would been running against a pass defense in the second half. Great coaches keep their composure, but our coaches were very arrogant.
August 7th, 2009 at 12:27 am
Lefty:
Sounds good, about continuity, but it’s garbage when it’s with a head coach like Callahan. Callahan was given a winning team, which if it wasn’t for the Tuck Rule would have gone to the Super Bowl. Callahan was too stupid to change anything when he went up against Gruden. It’s doesn’t get any worst than that, period. Gruden blew us away. Callahan ended up in Nebraska and he’s on his way out there. He’s a loser. I don’t hate Al Davis, as I’ve been a Raiders fan for many years and he’s done a lot of good. However, I’m not afraid to jump on his case when he’s off the rocker. And, it’s not true that Gruden would have left. It’s just a nice easy assumption. But, if Davis would have paid him what he was worth and what he deserved, Gruden, like most people would have stayed for the money and because he had a competitive team that was playoff guaranteed.
August 7th, 2009 at 12:31 am
If we get a 2nd and a 5th for Burgess we made of big. The 3rd and 5th is a very good trade. There is no doubt in my mind that Bill will get the most out of Burgess but we weren’t, so fair exchange is no robbery.
I think the player that peple are sleeping on is Matt Shaughnessey, cable keeps talking about these kids Slade Norris and David Dixon. Don’t know crap about either but Cable seems to think they’re players.
If Murphy turns out anything like what Cable seem sto feel he is this WR corp could be something to watch in the coming seasons. DHB’s confidence is growing by the day. I’m starting to feel he will be a real factor after all.
DMC’s drops are puzzling, is he looking out of the corner of his eye for Mitchell? He seems to be drpping more passes than anyone.
What’s gone unmentioned is the camp that JLH and Chaz are having. They are stacking up to be a couple of really good players. Russell could have a great improvement if that is the case. Chaz hasn’t dropped a pass and neither has JLH. That’s top shelf stuff there people.
August 7th, 2009 at 12:44 am
Then why didn’t he stay once the money was offered? was it his pride?? Listen bottom line is he left on his own. Gruden was looking at other jobs the last two years he was here. It got old. So Mr Davis opened the door so he could leave………simple as that.
Bush and DMC are great HB’s no question. But I just don’t get this urgency to dump Fargas. This crap about him not being a quality HB is crazy. There are several team sthat could use a HB of his talent. What seems to bounce of the foreheads of most fans is Fargas’s reliability. He never makes mental errors and is very consistent. That is a coaches dream, He keeps the offense on schedule. Aside from those 80 yard runs that DMC was supposed to make those Fargas 4 and 5 yard pickups are the key to a smooth offense.
I can’t tell you how many times I read in her that DMC would take a Fargas 3 yard run into 80 yards. Well I never saw it. I don’t think anyone else did either. That’s the problem with most fans in here our own players are never good enough to play anywhere else until that actually DO.
August 7th, 2009 at 1:01 am
1st off,there is no guarantee we would have went to the SB if we’d have won the tuck game.and even with the terrible call,chuckie blew the game with his play calling AFTER the call.2nd,i never defended Callahan,just said he took the team that chuckie couldn’t to the SB.
Priest-even though i agree with you about Fargas,if,from what i’ve read,Bush and Mac are picking up their blocking assignments,Fargas could be in trouble.i hope not,but you never know.
August 7th, 2009 at 1:03 am
Don’t care what other teams need Fargas…he’s worth keeping as #3. Bush and McFadden BOTH can be great backs…Fargas peaked years ago. His penchant for running directly into tacklers, even in the open field, is Maddening. But, he’s a great teammate, a great on-field role model, and he never gives less than 100%.
Fargas may be a little over-paid by some standards, but not in my book. As long as he’s the loyal RB who can handle his shared-role, even as he loses carries to the future…he belongs right here. There are lots of reasons this guy is held in such high regard…by the owner, coaches and teammates…and even most fans.
But, it’s time for the young guys to make sure the old-timers like Fargas don’t take too many reps from them.
August 7th, 2009 at 1:21 am
BHP — I fear we may always have to worry a little more than usual about injuries/drops with DMC. He didn’t overwhelm anyone with his ball-protection skills last year.
And, DMC already had (a few) foot issues…never good, especially to start a career. I just hope Cable untilizes the kid more for his talents, than as the battering ram that Lance tried to use him as. Well, even Cable tried it, when he should’ve found ways to get DMC in space instead.
It took the guys in New Orleans a few seasons to figure out the way to use Reggie Bush without killing him early…and I think that’s what Cable’s doingwith DMC now.
August 7th, 2009 at 1:30 am
See ya, Burgess!! Way to go Al — get rid of it before it soured anymore than it already has.
A 3rd and a 5th is probably waaaay more than most in here thought we could get for an unhappy, old, recently injured Burgess…and it sounds like The Old Man worked a really good deal.
It doesn’t matter what Burgess does in N.E. — since he wasn’t willing to perform here, he needed to go asap. Way to go Al, Cable, et al…keep the momentum moving forward.
It’s a great morning to be a Raiders fan. Isn’t it?
August 7th, 2009 at 1:40 am
Lefty12, I think Fargas is the reason these guy’s are picking up the blocking. He’s helping them adjust and that is exactly why I want him here to continue to help them with their assignments until they are up to snuff. A missed block could keep us out of the playoffs. I know that an oversimplification but it could. That is such an intregral part of playing HB. It’s not just the OT’s it’s entire blocking scheme.
If DMC can’t read a blitz a pass may never happen. The same is true with Walker a lot of fans want this guy gone because they can’t see the value in keeping him. Well understanding how to adjust routes is as much a part of route running as the pattern. You have to have veterans to help you see things in the heat of battle. That’s the only reason I want Garcia here is when Russell is not getting the protections right he can step in and say this is what they’re trying to do to you.
Veteran enfluence will be the difference in this team arriving quickly or taking an extra year. I’m sure you guy’s know this but it’s for the ones that don’t.
August 7th, 2009 at 1:46 am
Fargas has been pivotal to Bush and DMC’s developement wether these guy’s realize it or not.
August 7th, 2009 at 1:53 am
Adios!, sports fans!
August 7th, 2009 at 1:55 am
HazeDaze:
You’re right on both counts — Burgess for a 3rd and a 5th ain’t too bad; and DMac might best be used as a Reggie Bush type — flipflopping OUR Bush and Huggy Bear, Jr. with the majority of the “load”.
August 7th, 2009 at 1:57 am
Sorry I put “Haze”; I meant “Hayes”, of course!
August 7th, 2009 at 2:03 am
Burgess will soon learn what Moss and Lamont are already finding out — just because you’re on the Patriots now doesn’t win you a Super Bowl ring.
August 7th, 2009 at 2:15 am
The irony in the Crabtree situation is that the Niners are capitalizing on the fact that Al Davis has lost it, just as much as Crabtree’s agent is. When Al Davis passes on a better player, the next team looking to draft that guy gets a bargain. That’s why the other owners are always giving Al Davis props. They’re trying to legitimize him because this is just one way where his craziness compliments them. Of course, Crabtree’s agent is on to this game, and is vowing to not the Niners pull it off. Keep your eyes on this Crabtree situation, because it’s ALL about Al Davis.
August 7th, 2009 at 2:17 am
Fargas who was the ONLY player wearing the S&B with PRIDE during our darkest days around 2006 and wasnt ashamed of stepping up and being a leader for a looser. and will not act up if his time to step back arrives. nuff said
also a lot of people forget Cornell Greens hand in the developement of Mario Henderson.
add their decent production as starters who could back up their lead, there is not more you can ask for as a rebuilding team
heck i just read in an interview on raiders.com the other day that it was Elvis Whitted that “broke down the game” for JLH while they was roommates in camp and on the road trips.
so dont forget to give it up for Elvis W everytime JL is loose with the ball in his hands
August 7th, 2009 at 2:26 am
maybe Burgess’ unwillingness to be in camp and pass his wisdom in general was the tip on the scale of why he didnt get an upgrade. cause injuries never seem to be a problem with the raiders and their decisions…
August 7th, 2009 at 3:41 am
Good Morning NATION!!!
It REALLY is a GREAT day 2B a Raider Fan ,isni it!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
August 7th, 2009 at 3:41 am
isnt it that is
August 7th, 2009 at 3:48 am
True!
August 7th, 2009 at 4:08 am
wow some one is up this early!!!
Good Morning RaiderRobG
August 7th, 2009 at 4:09 am
I’m in florida,so its 7:07am
August 7th, 2009 at 4:18 am
Weighing in from the East Coast also … hey 4eva!
(spirited chat we had last night … what happened to that clown “Richochet”?)
August 7th, 2009 at 4:25 am
morning Raidertbone!!!
You guys must have bounced him outta here!!!
August 7th, 2009 at 4:25 am
I’m in Iraq so it’s 3:23 p.m Friday night
August 7th, 2009 at 4:27 am
WOW RAIDERROBG
Man be carefull Brother,when you coming home???
August 7th, 2009 at 4:36 am
For those of you who don’t know, “Richochet” is this ass clown 49er fan who comes onto our Raider blog every now and then and trashes us. Yesterday, he couldn’t handle it when we started raking them over the coals for the whole CrapTree situation. Just be on the lookout — if you see something come in from “Richochet”, just let the autumn winds blow, baby!
August 7th, 2009 at 4:44 am
Hey RaiderRobG — I salute you guys!
August 7th, 2009 at 5:06 am
Right now, it looks like some spirited competition at MLB between Kirk and Ricky — I think they’ll both start, it’s just a matter of positioning. I have heard some good things about Shaugnessy, so that may be a pleasant surprise at the 3rd round pick. I’ve had a few people tell me that Louis Murphy reminds them of another young receiver who came out fairly low in the draft a couple of years ago and has really done well — Green Bay’s Gregg Jennings (although Murphy is a bit bigger).
August 7th, 2009 at 5:14 am
I think the run D will be better with Brown at MLB
August 7th, 2009 at 5:20 am
The way it looks now, you’re probably right. I wonder if the coaching staff is trying to working them both in at middle, with the intention being to start Ricky, but with the ability to slide Kirk over in case there is an injury or another defensive “package” in play — any talk of their running five defensive backs? I know, right now, it looks like Nnamdi, Johnson, Branch, Eugene and Routt are our five best.
August 7th, 2009 at 5:29 am
Yep tbone,another “package” is what their doing,imo.It would B great if we used a 3-4 like 37% of the time.That would also B A slap in the face 2 Dburg as well,which Big Al likes 2 do on a national stage,imo =)
August 7th, 2009 at 5:32 am
well I gotta go 2 store,BBL tbone!!!
August 7th, 2009 at 5:35 am
All the West Coasters are asleep … I’ll check in with everyone around 2:00 EST. Happy Friday, Raider Nation! I am envious of anyone going to Alameda tomorrow!
August 7th, 2009 at 5:53 am
D-Burg is out!
YAY!!!
Ellis, Scott, Shaughnessy, Gunheim, Richardson
you boys ready to step it up ???
August 7th, 2009 at 5:55 am
Good Morning Nation!!!
What’s up 4eva, tbone, and the soon to be rest of the AM crew?
August 7th, 2009 at 5:55 am
Ricky Brown is a stud. as long as he’s starting someplace I’ll be happy. All I’ve got to say about that is this … Kirk Morrison better be smashing some fools behind the LOS in preseason if he wants to start at MLB and not strong side
August 7th, 2009 at 6:07 am
Good Morning
Rockstar,Hwnrdr
Fukk Yeah lets set it up good,lots 2 talk….like tgat under-preforming Dburg-CUT.He may have been promised something by someone,but it didnt work-out and he still had a contract 2 honor,so he pouted and played like a scared-lil-b!tch,imo
Sands is up !!!
August 7th, 2009 at 6:09 am
considering we got Bush, Branch & Murphy in the 4th Round and we got Scott, Richardson, Schilens, O’Neal, etc even lower than that the picks we got in exchange for Burgess could net us a couple good football players … or the next Arman Shields & John Bowie
August 7th, 2009 at 6:11 am
yeah, too bad we couldn’t have thrown Sands in and made that a 4th Round pick for sure. you know the Pats will screw us if given the chance.
I think it’ll be a 3rd & 5th no doubt. They love to wheel & deal on draft day
August 7th, 2009 at 6:12 am
Big Al has been hitting more homers than pop-ups latly,imo soo yeah we could get some very good PLAYAS =)
August 7th, 2009 at 6:20 am
Good Morning Rockstar,
I hope we don’t get another Bowie. Is he still on the roster?
August 7th, 2009 at 6:22 am
gotta run fellas. busy work day
less than 1 week until Greg Ellis gets to show the cowgirls that he still has some left in the tank!
August 7th, 2009 at 6:23 am
Have a good one Rockstar!
August 7th, 2009 at 6:26 am
CYA Rockstar!!!
August 7th, 2009 at 6:28 am
well Hwnrdr…looks loke its up 2 us to hold it down sooo…
I think our young high-motor high-intensity rookies on defence are gonna BLOW-IT-UP this year how bout you???
August 7th, 2009 at 6:29 am
lIke,sorry
August 7th, 2009 at 6:29 am
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August 7th, 2009 at 6:32 am
Well, considering Scott had a better than decent year last year in terms of sacks, I hope that his determination and intensity catches on to the rest of them. I’m waiting to see Mitchell hit someone! Can’t wait…
August 7th, 2009 at 6:33 am
Hwnrdr;are you going 2 the 1st pre-season game???
August 7th, 2009 at 6:40 am
and…WHERE THE HELL IS DIRT-LOT????????????????????
August 7th, 2009 at 6:45 am
If crabtree where holding out from the Raiders their would be a huge deal about how dumb the Raiders are or if we wasted or 1 on a qb with girl sized hands but since its the precious whiners not much in media about.
August 7th, 2009 at 6:47 am
Who need burgess always injured he never plays the run anyways ellis is a much more complete de and scott got’s the pass rush.
GO RAIDERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
August 7th, 2009 at 6:47 am
Next Thursday…can’t make it because no one to watch the kids, but I’ll be there for the NO game the following Saturday
August 7th, 2009 at 6:48 am
Morning Nation,
sorry I missed ya Double R dont work to hard!!!
Hope the Burgess deal pays off but it already has from one stand point 53 men one purpose he wasnt on board so now hes gone….this is funny and sad and probobly true,,,,
Norco Bob Says:
August 6th, 2009 at 9:37 pm
Mark this down, the fastest 40 time available in the 3rd round is who we traded Burgess for.
But hey Hope its a D-line man!!!
HENDERSON TO THE PROBOWL
Hope fully Crabbypatty sits out then gets drafted by the Lions or the CFL!!!!
PLAYOFFBOUND!!!!!
August 7th, 2009 at 6:51 am
The 49ers can’t catch Crabbs!!!lol
August 7th, 2009 at 6:56 am
morning No More Fargas…OAKlifer!!!!
good 4U Hwnrdr!!! that will be a good barometer because the Saints stomped us last year
August 7th, 2009 at 6:57 am
morning TW
who woulda thunk it??? =)
August 7th, 2009 at 6:59 am
No more Fargas,
I know, (sniff, sniff), the media is SO mean to the Raiders(sob,sob)! WHY, why do they have to be that way?(Waaaaaaaaaa!!!!) ITS NOT FAIR!
August 7th, 2009 at 7:00 am
OAKlifer Says:
August 7th, 2009 at 6:48 am
Morning Nation,
sorry I missed ya Double R dont work to hard!!!
Hope the Burgess deal pays off but it already has from one stand point 53 men one purpose he wasnt on board so now hes gone….this is funny and sad and probobly true,,,,
Norco Bob Says:
August 6th, 2009 at 9:37 pm
Mark this down, the fastest 40 time available in the 3rd round is who we traded Burgess for.
But hey Hope its a D-line man!!!
HENDERSON TO THE PROBOWL
Hope fully Crabbypatty sits out then gets drafted by the Lions or the CFL!!!!
PLAYOFFBOUND!!!!!
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As always, I like where your head is at Lifer!
9-7!
53 MEN, COUNTLESS FANS, …ONE PURPOSE!
MORNING NATION!
August 7th, 2009 at 7:02 am
morning AZ !!!
Whoooooooo Hooooooooo
we cutting the fat off,hopefully there will be a couple more!!!
August 7th, 2009 at 7:04 am
“53 MEN, COUNTLESS FANS, ONE PURPOSE!” omg, lol!
August 7th, 2009 at 7:06 am
you got a problem with that statement by AZ Raider,dude???If so man up
August 7th, 2009 at 7:07 am
Burgess is another example where the production did not come close to matching the salary. Very poor value.
I laugh at all the comments about the Burgess work ethic and how he did not do anything “voluntary” but was always in shape.
He was not in football shape which is why he missed a full seanon in Philly and large parts of others in Oakland.
The Dline will have at least another move with a veteran. I am guessing Sands.
August 7th, 2009 at 7:08 am
Problem with it, nah. Is it funny as hell and lame? Oh yeah.
August 7th, 2009 at 7:09 am
RaiderRon Says:
August 7th, 2009 at 7:04 am
“53 MEN, COUNTLESS FANS, ONE PURPOSE!” omg, lol!
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Welcome to the nation Ron!
9-7!
JAVON WALKER COMEBACL PLAYER OF THE REAR!
LOUIS MURPHY ROOKIE OF THE YEAR!
53 MEN AND COUNTLESS FANS COMMITTED TO ONE PURPOSE!
GALLERY, ASOMUGHA, HENDERSON? TO THE PROBOWL!
CHARGERS REIN AS AFC WEST CHAMPS STOPS COLD 9-14-09!
DRINK UP NATION!
August 7th, 2009 at 7:10 am
Dang 4eva’s got my back LOL! Love it Nation!
August 7th, 2009 at 7:10 am
AZ,
Man I bet it is fun living in your world! LOL
August 7th, 2009 at 7:11 am
I think this Ron guy wears 49er jammies =)
August 7th, 2009 at 7:11 am
Not as funny as you saying “if so MAN UP” though. LOL
August 7th, 2009 at 7:12 am
I bet this guy 4eva wears Al Davis’s jammies
August 7th, 2009 at 7:13 am
Hell ya Ron, I love my Silver and Black baby! I’m the AZ kool-aid PIMP! Want something sweet to drink? Ask a die-hard and he’ll whip you up some kool-aid to drink every morning, after-noon and night!
Jump on board baby, it’s a new season with tons of young talent ready for development! I’m DOWN for da Nation! I’m bleedin that sh*t!
August 7th, 2009 at 7:14 am
go back to frisco where you belong Ron
August 7th, 2009 at 7:15 am
Dang this guys got no respect!
It’s all good bro… Most our brethren are haters, we’re used to it baby! Just make sure your rooting for the right team on the 14th and the football gods my spare your like
August 7th, 2009 at 7:16 am
maybe Ron is ricochet
August 7th, 2009 at 7:16 am
*may spare your life!
RAIDER ON!
August 7th, 2009 at 7:16 am
LOL
August 7th, 2009 at 7:16 am
It was a good deal, nothing earth-shattering but a solid move.
Fact is:
We “replaced” D. Burgess with Greg Ellis.
Over the last 2 seasons Ellis played in 29 games and had 21 sacks, while Burgess played in 24 games and had 12 sacks.
Looking at production only, it’s evident that Ellis has been a better player over the past 2 years.
And, on top of getting a more productive player to start at DE, we were also able to get Third and Fifth round picks out of this “exchange”.
August 7th, 2009 at 7:18 am
you know AZRaider we kicked everyone’s azz for the last 34 out of 40 years.The haters see we are coming and coming hard,and their shaking in their lil slippers =)
August 7th, 2009 at 7:18 am
Mornin’ 4eva, mornin’ crew.
August 7th, 2009 at 7:19 am
Curious….. Why are the non kool aid drinkers who see this team as it is and dont get caught up in the hype labeled “haters”??
August 7th, 2009 at 7:21 am
Adding the Pats 3rd rounder next year, gives the Raiders 4 picks in the top 100.
August 7th, 2009 at 7:21 am
Ok RaiderRon tell us…
How do you see this team as a Raider fan???
August 7th, 2009 at 7:22 am
Sorry to pimp this in here but we just wanted to show Dakota how its dome!!!
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=4379864
WCF here we come!!!!!!!
ROY WILL BE THE MVP!!!!!!!!!
August 7th, 2009 at 7:23 am
morning Bob Marley !!!
August 7th, 2009 at 7:23 am
Your not a Raider hater Ron…. Your just an AZ hater, and thats just as bad as rooting for the pansies in powder blue.
Like I said, I know it’s kool-aid but I’m a supporter of silver and black 0-16 or 16-0. It’s part of my soul brother. Drink it, or pass it on to someone who’s more thirsty than yourself. Don’t rain on the parade of optimism in here cuz… Just trying to get pumped for the season. Try some, you’ll like it.
4eva, I hear you bro…
RAIDER ON!
August 7th, 2009 at 7:24 am
Bob Marley Says:
August 7th, 2009 at 7:21 am
Adding the Pats 3rd rounder next year, gives the Raiders 4 picks in the top 100.
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Good work Thanks Bob!!! We are are adding alot of REALLY good YOUNG talent to this team we will become dominate once again well at least relevant!!!
COME RISE WITH US!!!
Hey Ron not more hateraide bro…let me get you a cup!!!
August 7th, 2009 at 7:26 am
Good mornin nation!!!!! Happy friday!!! I just want to say R.I.P. Burgess have a good after life. Scott we will need you like never before hope ur ready cause we the nation are!
August 7th, 2009 at 7:27 am
Morning All:
On Mike and Mike this A.M., sub host Herm Edwards predicted 8-8 for the Raiders. The idiot that resigned from MNF gave him grief.
August 7th, 2009 at 7:27 am
Sorry AZ, I was laughing at that statement because it reminded me of the movie voice guy. But there is only ONE PURPOSE, bro…Raider on, AZ!
August 7th, 2009 at 7:28 am
OAKlifer Says:
August 7th, 2009 at 7:24 am
COME RISE WITH US!!!
Hey Ron not more hateraide bro…let me get you a cup!!!
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H*ll ya, COME RISE WITH US! I love it!
August 7th, 2009 at 7:31 am
I sure hope losing Burgess doesn’t hurt the team greatly. Acquiring Ellis, but losing Burgess puts the defense right back where we started with one somewhat proven DE and nothing on the opposite side. Dealing proven players or vets for young hopefuls is why the win/loss record has been what it is. We have nothing opposite Ellis to draw a double team or attention. Thus Ellis will, if his play warrants it, draw a double team and his production will be neutralized. Just think of the production we would have had with two proven pass rushers instead of one. Time will tell as always.
August 7th, 2009 at 7:31 am
exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:
August 7th, 2009 at 7:27 am
Morning All:
On Mike and Mike this A.M., sub host Herm Edwards predicted 8-8 for the Raiders. The idiot that resigned from MNF gave him grief.
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I hope someone called in and told Herm it’s….
9-7!
August 7th, 2009 at 7:33 am
BAG Says:
August 7th, 2009 at 7:31 am
I sure hope losing Burgess doesn’t hurt the team greatly. Acquiring Ellis, but losing Burgess puts the defense right back where we started with one somewhat proven DE and nothing on the opposite side. Dealing proven players or vets for young hopefuls is why the win/loss record has been what it is. We have nothing opposite Ellis to draw a double team or attention. Thus Ellis will, if his play warrants it, draw a double team and his production will be neutralized. Just think of the production we would have had with two proven pass rushers instead of one. Time will tell as always.
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Henderson is just a “gentle” BEAST! Scott will do fine opposite Ellis… Besides, Ellis was an upgrade in the run D where we needed the most help. Don’t forget Scott had 5 sacks in a limited # of games…
August 7th, 2009 at 7:39 am
BAG
Fair point, but you have to look past next year, if Burgess stayed and played well, he would be looking for big money in 2010 and would most likely be lost without any compensation.
I’d rather have Ellis in Burgess spot for the next 2 years at a reasonable price, plus the 3rd and 5th rounders we got.
August 7th, 2009 at 7:40 am
How I see the team-
Alot of YOUNG, UNPROVEN talent that the Kool Aid drinkers are already annointing as Pro Bowlers despite the fact that none of them has done squat and the fact that the Raiders organization has not shown the ability to farm young talent into veteran stars.
A defense that hasnt changed in 5 or 6 years and consistently gets gashed by the run and when teams really try and throw get beaten by the pass. ITS THE SAME D AS LAST YEAR!! NOTHING WILL CHANGE.
A coaching staff that borders on pathetic led by a great politician/salesman in Tom Cable. If not for his ” I love all things Raider” campaign last year he would not of sniffed an NFL head job, ever. The rest of the staff is led by old castoffs from other teams who couldnt find jobs elsewhere.
August 7th, 2009 at 7:41 am
Later.
August 7th, 2009 at 7:44 am
4evaRaider Says:
August 7th, 2009 at 7:21 am
Ok RaiderRon tell us…
How do you see this team as a Raider fan???
We’re stil waiting Ron
August 7th, 2009 at 7:46 am
TW! CLASSIC!
August 7th, 2009 at 7:46 am
Scroll up
August 7th, 2009 at 7:47 am
Hey TW, now that was funny!!! I hope that comes to our NFL channel real soon!!! Love it, “rise from the ashes of Lane Kiffen”…haha!
August 7th, 2009 at 7:49 am
RaiderRon Says:
August 7th, 2009 at 7:40 am
How I see the team-
Alot of YOUNG, UNPROVEN talent that the Kool Aid drinkers are already annointing as Pro Bowlers despite the fact that none of them has done squat and the fact that the Raiders organization has not shown the ability to farm young talent into veteran stars.
A defense that hasnt changed in 5 or 6 years and consistently gets gashed by the run and when teams really try and throw get beaten by the pass. ITS THE SAME D AS LAST YEAR!! NOTHING WILL CHANGE.
A coaching staff that borders on pathetic led by a great politician/salesman in Tom Cable. If not for his ” I love all things Raider” campaign last year he would not of sniffed an NFL head job, ever. The rest of the staff is led by old castoffs from other teams who couldnt find jobs elsewhere.
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It’s ok to see it how you see it. Perception is reality my friend. I perceive this team as a young team trying to get the glory back to Oakland. I perceive this team as headed in the right direction, and that’s all I can ask as a fan is improvement.
9-7!
DRINK UP!
August 7th, 2009 at 7:51 am
A defense that hasnt changed in 5 or 6 years and consistently gets gashed by the run and when teams really try and throw get beaten by the pass. ITS THE SAME D AS LAST YEAR!! NOTHING WILL CHANGE.
A coaching staff that borders on pathetic led by a great politician/salesman in Tom Cable. If not for his ” I love all things Raider” campaign last year he would not of sniffed an NFL head job, ever. The rest of the staff is led by old castoffs from other teams who couldnt find jobs elsewhere.
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These two statements just showed that yuo have little to no knowledge at all when it comes to this football team or its coaching staff. LOL @ Old cast offs!!!
Tollner, who has 46 years of coaching experience, as USC’s head coach from 1983-86 and led the Trojans to victories in two Rose Bowls and a Pac-10 title.
Lionel Washington, who played cornerback for nine seasons for the Raiders from 1987-94 and 1997, will coach Silver and Black defensive backs., Washington is in his 26th year in the NFL as a player or coach. He spent the past 10 seasons with the Green Bay Packers as an assistant tutoring defensive backs. Packer cornerbacks Al Harris and Charles Woodson earned Pro Bowls berths under Washington’s tutelage. In 2005, Washington’s defensive back corps helped Green Bay lead the league in fewest passing yards allowed per game (167.5) as well as fewest passing first downs (143).
Michalczik has 18 seasons of college coaching experience, including the past seven at the University of California., In 2008 at Cal, he was assistant head coach, co-offensive coordinator and offensive line coach and helped lead the Bears to a 9-4 overall record and a win over Miami (Fla.) in the Emerald Bowl. Under his tutelage, Bears center Alex Mack won two consecutive Morris Trophies, given to the top offensive and defensive linemen in the Pac-10., While at Cal, he mentored seven first team all-conference selections. In all, 24 Bears offensive linemen earned some level of All-Pac-10 honors during his tenure, including all five starters making the list in 2004.
Additionally, Cal produced seven 1,000-yard rushers, including one 2,000-yard rusher, in his seven seasons. Most recently, Jahvid Best led the Pac-10 in 2008 with 1,580 rushing yards.
Hackett has served on a Super Bowl and an NCAA National Championship staff during his career. He has been on four division winners as an NFL offensive coordinator, helping lead teams to seven playoff appearances and a 90-54 record. In his last 13 seasons as an NFL assistant coach, Hackett helped nine teams reach the playoffs.
Pro Football Hall of Famer Willie Brown is in his 39th year with the Raiders and 15th season as director of squad development and defensive backs assistant. He was secondary coach for the Raiders from 1979-88, during which the team won two World Championships of Professional Football in Super Bowls XV and XVIII. He also coached the secondary in 1997 while serving as director of squad development.
NUFF SAID get your facts up bro you look weak!!!!!
August 7th, 2009 at 7:52 am
LOL @ TW
August 7th, 2009 at 7:53 am
The more who join it this perception, the more real it becomes! Drink it Nation and try and get (in the words of the great Nnamdi Asomugha) “…get this thing done in 3 years time.” He’s talking about the Big Show baby! Nnamdi wouldn’t have signed back if he didn’t think we were heading in the right direction to get it done in a few years time. I’m drinkin that too.
August 7th, 2009 at 7:54 am
Bob M.
I see your point, but “if” Ellis has the season that we all hope has won’t he want a new deal for big money as well? Also, we need to build on what we have and not keep letting productive players go. Sure Ellis replaces Burgess, but we still don’t have another proven threat on the other side. Which was the same problem we had the past years with Burgess.
August 7th, 2009 at 7:55 am
Morning folks!!
Al likes to trade on draft day, so with a 3rd and ulimately a 5th, they can maybe deal one of their 3rds and the 5th to maybe trade up into the end of the 2nd round or something like that.
I still wonder if Burgess reports to New England or if he still wants some sort of extension. I would think the Pats would give him two years, and not much of a rise, see if he takes it.
August 7th, 2009 at 7:56 am
Oaklifer!
Very nice post! Now that’s not kool-aid, thats just a well thought out post. I’m believing more now than ever!
9-7!
August 7th, 2009 at 7:57 am
OK Lifer,
Thanks for the GOOGLE results. When was the last time any of those coaches was relevant? I mean serioulsy clown, you actually harkened back to 1986 and 1979?? Get real. And your Willie Brown GOOGLE result is embarrasing and almost proves my point. Director of squad development?? Hey Willie. GOOD WORK! LOL.
August 7th, 2009 at 7:58 am
Vegas! Whats up baby! Grab a cup and sit down.
9-7!
August 7th, 2009 at 7:59 am
Dang Ron your negativity is depressing… Give me your cup back! LOL…
August 7th, 2009 at 8:00 am
Its not negativity, its reality. BIG difference.
August 7th, 2009 at 8:01 am
AZ,
I’ll take a double!!!
And I found a job, start at the end of the month, and I don’t have to move to alburquerque, yet!!!! On the down-side, they told me they are flying me to the corporate office in Cerritos, on Sept 14th. That’s opening night, WTF!!!!!!
August 7th, 2009 at 8:01 am
Whats up Dakota? Is there an NT prospect coming out of college next year? And OAK…good post, bro! I’ll spit out my beer if I see you leading the Raiders on the field in a S&B kool-aid outfit! Splash some kool-aid all over the place!
August 7th, 2009 at 8:02 am
Fargas could have been an elite running back. Unfortunately, the Raiders had sit on the bench behind the likes of Amos Zeroue and an aged Wheatly….sat behind LaMont Jordan and Dominic Rhodes….and then injury problems…
The Raiders should have had him on the field earlier. Let’s not do the same thing to Bush.
August 7th, 2009 at 8:03 am
RaiderRon Says:
August 7th, 2009 at 8:00 am
Its not negativity, its reality. BIG difference.
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Did some1 P!ss in his kool-aid?
August 7th, 2009 at 8:03 am
vegas raider Says:
August 7th, 2009 at 8:01 am
AZ,
I’ll take a double!!!
And I found a job, start at the end of the month, and I don’t have to move to alburquerque, yet!!!! On the down-side, they told me they are flying me to the corporate office in Cerritos, on Sept 14th. That’s opening night, WTF!!!!!!
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Congratulations!
August 7th, 2009 at 8:07 am
If it ain’t positive it’s negative right? I’m over your depressed arse. I don’t see anything in any of your posts that reflect reality yet. Just skepticism and bashing all the losing we’ve been doing since 2002. It’s all good brother, there are teams out there who are not as fortunate as the Raiders to have 3 trophies, or even 1 single trophy for that matter. I’m just proud my team is not in that catagory, and I trust the Raiders return to greatness will come sooner than any of those team with ZERO get to the big show.
August 7th, 2009 at 8:07 am
Dakota’s here, anyone want piss in their Cheerios?
August 7th, 2009 at 8:09 am
vegas raider Says:
August 7th, 2009 at 8:01 am
AZ,
I’ll take a double!!!
And I found a job, start at the end of the month, and I don’t have to move to alburquerque, yet!!!! On the down-side, they told me they are flying me to the corporate office in Cerritos, on Sept 14th. That’s opening night, WTF!!!!!!
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That’s cool but sucks at the same time… Bummer brother. Better find a way to record that shyt, so you can watch Rivers go down with a season ending injury inflicted by none other that…. THE GREAT NNAMDI ASOMUGHA.
August 7th, 2009 at 8:11 am
RaiderTW Says:
August 7th, 2009 at 8:07 am
Dakota’s here, anyone want piss in their Cheerios?
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I prefer beer in my cheerios.
I saw someone mention if we had Ellis and Burgess that it could have been possible to move to a 3-4?
Any1 think mayb, although it won’t happen, its time to try? I mean if we are rebuilding and we have some young guys why not change it up?
August 7th, 2009 at 8:11 am
I am busy today….very little time for Cheerio flavoring…
August 7th, 2009 at 8:11 am
AZ,
Serious question here. When did the Raiders get their last trophy?
August 7th, 2009 at 8:13 am
These two statements just showed that yuo have little to no knowledge at all when it comes to this football team or its coaching staff. LOL @ Old cast offs!!!
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my sentiments exactly
August 7th, 2009 at 8:14 am
Dang, I’m bummed the Raiders are wearing thier whites on Monday night, cause I wanted to wear my 21, but it’s black…. I’ll either have to buy another 21 or settle for the white Woodson throw-back?
LOL, I’m pickin out my uniform already for the 14th… Damn, I’m rediculous LOL!
August 7th, 2009 at 8:15 am
Hmmmm… i got a white Garner and Gannon too. Decision, decisions….
August 7th, 2009 at 8:16 am
4eva,
Ill pretend you know ANYTHING about ANY of those coaches. Guess you can just do a GOOGLE search like the clown did.
August 7th, 2009 at 8:16 am
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
August 7th, 2009 at 2:15 am
The irony in the Crabtree situation is that the Niners are capitalizing on the fact that Al Davis has lost it, just as much as Crabtree’s agent is. When Al Davis passes on a better player, the next team looking to draft that guy gets a bargain.
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I think it is now apparent that Davis made the smart move, because he knew Craptree would not sign. Not here, and obviously not with anyone. Having a marquee rookie receiver not in camp is very harmful to the team, because it is here that the Q develops his timing and confidence in his WR’s. Even The Russell holdout is not as detrimental because Russell was not going to come in and start anyway. I think both us and the Whiners would want Craptree out there running routes. Sucks to be them.
August 7th, 2009 at 8:16 am
LOL, I’m pickin out my uniform already for the 14th… Damn, I’m rediculous LOL!
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AZ, is that your rapper name? Rid Iculous?
August 7th, 2009 at 8:17 am
AZ,
When?
August 7th, 2009 at 8:18 am
RaiderRon Says:
August 7th, 2009 at 8:11 am
AZ,
Serious question here. When did the Raiders get their last trophy?
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If you have to ask you really should leave bro…. Seriously… LOL.
August 7th, 2009 at 8:18 am
Congratulations Vegas!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
And you will be closer to da folks in Albuquerque,I think right???
August 7th, 2009 at 8:19 am
AZ,
When was it again, cant remember?
August 7th, 2009 at 8:20 am
I’m down Oak, should we just ignore this punk? If we post the year of our last Championship, he’ll hate on how long it’s been, plus we’ll be giving Raider info to a fan who wears another color…
I’m cool with that.
August 7th, 2009 at 8:21 am
You’re up early today Dude!
You’re rollin with the RaiderRon tag now?
How many do you have?
Why do you keep changing your tag?
August 7th, 2009 at 8:21 am
83, but let me go find out how many teams have ZERO…
August 7th, 2009 at 8:22 am
that just shows your age Ron.I stopped pretending 40 years ago,as a matter of fact,this is the 1st time I even said the word pretend since my Daughter was a baby,she 19 now
August 7th, 2009 at 8:22 am
AZ, you rap????/
August 7th, 2009 at 8:23 am
*********Raider Nation Never Forget!!!!!!************
I hope all of our rookies do well this year more than any other year. I hope DHB turns out to be the truth. I hope Murphy turns out to be just as good. I hope the whole rookie class goes on to be monsters and I hope they do it with the Raiders. I hope DHB turns out to be so good that I am watching him giving a speech crying in Canton, thanking the late Al Davis for giving him a shot. You know why? I will never forget the way they doged the Raiders on draft day and into the week. I will never forget Chris Carter one of the best players and egos to ever play the game flapping his big mouth doging out a younger man starting out just like he did because of what he heard. Not to mention Chris Carter has a son who may be going through this process in about three or four years if he is worth it at OSU this year. Another loud mouth in a suite who can’t be happy with his past accomplishments. Now we see Mr Crabtree and his big mouth crew giving SF heck over signing his contract. DHB was done and ready to go on day 1 second practice. I met Crabtree’s agent Eugene Parker in Ft. Wayne, IN back in the day he was also the agent of Rod Woodson (went to school with him, Dion Sanders, Emmit Smith, etc. No way would he try to make terms like siting out a whole year. Parker makes monewy off of getting guys signed right and on time. He will negotiate hard but if you wasnt to get paid for the time you put in with your client why would you hold him out a whole year? So I see why teams were avoiding Crabtree and his merry band. I siad this before and I will say it again. The Raiders have been known to draft anybody that has a big name rather they fit in the system or not. Now they have a strategy, they are going after guys that are big fast but they also have to have heart and character!!!! Listen to DHB, Murphy, Murry, Mitchell. These guys when they talk sound like good guys man. Listen to DHB talk man you can tell people have put a lot into this kid he listend man. Yeah I am cheering for the whole class. I am tired of watching the media make money off of doging the Raiders year after year. I am tired of players not contributing in a positive way on the team and running to the Patriots system for instant success. I want ESPN to eat there words and I want them to show up begging to get an interview from the silver and black when they make the play-offs. Skip who we did not get they are history man! Start cheering for the whole d@mn team!!! Go Raiders!!!
Am I a little pi$$ed for my squad yeah! I been cheering for them since I started little league football.
August 7th, 2009 at 8:24 am
1983= 26 years ago…..nice. I prefer to live in the present.
August 7th, 2009 at 8:24 am
ahhh Duder…that makes sense!!!! thanks jhill how you livivn bro??
August 7th, 2009 at 8:24 am
Rap? Na, but I can play the bass like no other
August 7th, 2009 at 8:25 am
RaiderRon Says:
August 7th, 2009 at 8:24 am
1983= 26 years ago…..nice. I prefer to live in the present.
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your as predictable as Lance Kiffins play calling…
August 7th, 2009 at 8:25 am
DUDE thats it
I thought you was ricochet but I clearly see it is none other than the Dude we sent packing with your tail between your legs!!!Was up DUDE
Thankx Jhill
August 7th, 2009 at 8:26 am
The thing about this Crabs idiot, is that NFL players will tell you all the time that it is all about the 2nd contract you sign, as far as really making the big bucks. I’ve heard Mike Irvin talk about it a few times, he says get signed and in-camp early, start balling, and after 3 years you re-work your deal with an extension and one of those Payton Manning type $20 million signing bonus. All this is lost on Crabs representation apparently. Good luck with all that Singletary!!!!
August 7th, 2009 at 8:27 am
CJ Legend 34 Says:
August 7th, 2009 at 8:23 am
*********Raider Nation Never Forget!!!!!!************
NEVER FORGET!!!!!!!!!!!
nice post brother!!
August 7th, 2009 at 8:27 am
RaiderRon Says:
August 7th, 2009 at 8:11 am
AZ,
Serious question here. When did the Raiders get their last trophy?
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January 22, 1984
But there is only, what? 15 teams to win it since then? so another 17 teams that havn’t won either, try another arguement
August 7th, 2009 at 8:28 am
If the Raiders had drafted Crabtree hed be in camp. Senile man would have given him the dough he wanted and hed be in camp. Al is actually usually good about signing picks overpaid or not.
August 7th, 2009 at 8:29 am
Congrats on the job Vegas! Will their IT policy allow you to stay regular?
August 7th, 2009 at 8:30 am
Butt,
The way most of you tell it the Raiders are the best franchise in the NFL yet they havent sized a ring for 26 years?? LOL, something dznt fit here.
August 7th, 2009 at 8:30 am
your as predictable as Lance Kiffins play calling…
LMFAO!!!!! what a clown
bass huh?? Nice!!
August 7th, 2009 at 8:31 am
whats up Vegas morning BSJ!!
August 7th, 2009 at 8:32 am
“Sloppy scrimmage for new QB Orton, Broncos draws boo birds.
New quarterback Kyle Orton, acquired from the Chicago Bears for Pro Bowler Jay Cutler in the biggest NFL trade of the offseason, was booed by some of the 13,402 fans watching his unofficial debut at Invesco Field when he threw two interceptions and several bad passes during a structured scrimmage Thursday night.
Orton drew the fans’ ire when he was picked off twice by cornerback Andre’ Goodman, who returned the second interception for a long touchdown.”
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Bah what kind of fans boo their team in practice? lol
August 7th, 2009 at 8:33 am
The RaiderBeat guys listed their top 10 camp disappointments. I think its waaaay to early to be passing down indictments. However, I don’t like that three DTs showed up on his list:
2. Terdell Sands: Lost considerable weight, but he still doesn’t look the part of a dominant force in the middle
5. Tommy Kelly: isn’t blowing up plays or getting to the QB too often
9. Ryan Boschetti: he hasn’t done much to stand out
Can only hope that these guys kick it up a gear between now and the season. Also, is it time to bring some more competition…DeWayne Robertson??
http://raiderbeat.com/?p=3287
August 7th, 2009 at 8:33 am
Funny thing is you hypocrites were slobbering all over Kiffs cock when he was here just like you doing now with Fat Boy Cable.
August 7th, 2009 at 8:34 am
“We don’t like their sound, and guitar music is on the way out.” — Decca Recording Co. rejecting the Beatles, 1962.
August 7th, 2009 at 8:35 am
Mornin SNB, OAK, Bo, Vegas, eva, AZ, Jhill, CJ, NATION!
August 7th, 2009 at 8:36 am
Morning dirty
August 7th, 2009 at 8:36 am
RaiderRon Says:
August 7th, 2009 at 8:28 am
If the Raiders had drafted Crabtree hed be in camp.
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I actually agree with that. Craps would’ve easily taken the 20% increase over last years #7 slot, and there would have been no other WR making more $.
August 7th, 2009 at 8:37 am
RaiderRon Says:
AZ,
When was it again, cant remember?
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AZ, he’s not 19, he’s 90 with alzhiemers!!!
August 7th, 2009 at 8:40 am
Henderson is just a “gentle” BEAST! Scott will do fine opposite Ellis… Besides, Ellis was an upgrade in the run D where we needed the most help. Don’t forget Scott had 5 sacks in a limited # of games…
August 7th, 2009 at 8:41 am
Morning Oaklifer, and thanks 4eva.
Less than a week away for the Cowgirls game. How much should Russell play? I say either 3 drives, or 2 good ones. Is Garcia even going to be able to suit up?
August 7th, 2009 at 8:42 am
The Raiders havent won in my lifetime. What do I care what happened B.R.? (before ron)
August 7th, 2009 at 8:44 am
Henderson is just a “gentle” BEAST! Scott will do fine opposite Ellis… Besides, Ellis was an upgrade in the run D where we needed the most help. Don’t forget Scott had 5 sacks in a limited # of games…
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AZ,
Henderson did look like a beast in the those last few games going up against some of the league’s best. T. Scott played in 16 games and posted 5 sacks. 2 against the Jets, 1 against ATL, and 2 against NE. Sure, I hope he improves, but that still remains to be seen.
August 7th, 2009 at 8:44 am
Sometimes you got to specifically go out of your way to get into trouble. The RAIDERS call it “FUN”!
August 7th, 2009 at 8:45 am
SnB,
The Wexler guy rarely seems to see or report the same things DWhite or Jerry Mc do. I think the consensus is Sands, but I haven’t heard or read anything negative about the rest of them. Unless you want to count the off sides by Kelly.
I think Sands could be gone.
August 7th, 2009 at 8:45 am
vegas raider Says:
August 7th, 2009 at 8:41 am
Morning Oaklifer, and thanks 4eva.
Less than a week away for the Cowgirls game. How much should Russell play? I say either 3 drives, or 2 good ones. Is Garcia even going to be able to suit up?
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I would like to see the 1st team offense and defense go for the 1st QTR. With DHB, Murphy and Mike Mitchell getting additional reps throughout the game. Nnamdi would be out there for one play….LOL
Let’s “cut it loose” as Cable says and figure where this team is from a fundamental standpoint
August 7th, 2009 at 8:46 am
Now they have a strategy, they are going after guys that are big fast but they also have to have heart and character!!!! Listen to DHB, Murphy, Murry, Mitchell. These guys when they talk sound like good guys man. Listen to DHB talk man you can tell people have put a lot into this kid he listend man. Yeah I am cheering for the whole class. I am tired of watching the media make money off of doging the Raiders year after year. I am tired of players not contributing in a positive way on the team and running to the Patriots system for instant success. I want ESPN to eat there words and I want them to show up begging to get an interview from the silver and black when they make the play-offs. Skip who we did not get they are history man! Start cheering for the whole d@mn team!!! Go Raiders!!!
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Dang CJ nice post… Spoken like a true member of our bloved Nation!
53 MEN, COUNTLESS FANS, ALL COMMITTED TO ONE PUPOSE!
RAIDER ON CJ!
August 7th, 2009 at 8:46 am
HAHAHAHA!!!!
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/08/07/lamont-jordan-gets-sued-for-gambling-debts/
August 7th, 2009 at 8:47 am
jhill Says:
August 7th, 2009 at 8:45 am
SnB,
The Wexler guy rarely seems to see or report the same things DWhite or Jerry Mc do. I think the consensus is Sands, but I haven’t heard or read anything negative about the rest of them. Unless you want to count the off sides by Kelly.
I think Sands could be gone.
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I am more concerned about the DT depth. Just make sure that there are two guys behind Kelly and Warren that can do more than just line-up.
August 7th, 2009 at 8:47 am
RaiderRon Says:
August 7th, 2009 at 8:42 am
The Raiders havent won in my lifetime. What do I care what happened B.R.? (before ron)
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You said it Ron. Just sit back STFU and wait for the wins. SB in 3 years is the goal. Pour a cup, shut your mouth and help us win.
August 7th, 2009 at 8:48 am
The whole 1st qtr? That’s not going to happen.
You’re going to see a lot of the rookies though, and the Frye Gradkowski battle will start to take shape.
August 7th, 2009 at 8:48 am
RaiderRon Says:
August 7th, 2009 at 8:30 am
Butt,
The way most of you tell it the Raiders are the best franchise in the NFL yet they havent sized a ring for 26 years?? LOL, something dznt fit here.
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You are right RaiderRon, maybe we should all go join the Pats and you can be PatriotRon the bandwagon junkee. How about that?
Come back to Blog after your medication kicks in.
August 7th, 2009 at 8:49 am
LOL! “Help us win”?? How would a guy go about doin that??
August 7th, 2009 at 8:50 am
Sorry Ron i didn’t know you only 7 years old bro. i wouldn’t have been so harsh on you. I also gotta hand it to you, you write pretty well for a kid.
August 7th, 2009 at 8:50 am
only in Vegas thanks man!!!! LOL @ lamont fatty jordan
August 7th, 2009 at 8:52 am
RaiderRon Says:
August 7th, 2009 at 8:49 am
LOL! “Help us win”?? How would a guy go about doin that??
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It’s all in the attitude Ron. Positive emotions bring positive results. when you grow up you’ll understand.
August 7th, 2009 at 8:52 am
I think Joseph and Boschetti can be better than Sands and Wakerfield.
I guess the question is can a Robertson be better than a Boschetti or Joseph? Or what about this rookie Brown how is making some noise?
I’d like to see what Joseph can do, if for no other reason that he was a high first round pick. Other than that, I’m down for whatever, but I think we will go DT in rnd 1 or 2 of next years draft.
August 7th, 2009 at 8:53 am
SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
August 7th, 2009 at 8:45 am
vegas raider Says:
August 7th, 2009 at 8:41 am
Morning Oaklifer, and thanks 4eva.
Less than a week away for the Cowgirls game. How much should Russell play? I say either 3 drives, or 2 good ones. Is Garcia even going to be able to suit up?
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I would like to see the 1st team offense and defense go for the 1st QTR. With DHB, Murphy and Mike Mitchell getting additional reps throughout the game. Nnamdi would be out there for one play….LOL
Let’s “cut it loose” as Cable says and figure where this team is from a fundamental standpoint
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Ya really can’t get any better on the bench. Play him 3qtrs.He MUST be game ready for Monday night @ the HOT!
August 7th, 2009 at 8:54 am
LOL @ AZ!!! OK dude, keep on believin that. Hows that worked for you lately??
August 7th, 2009 at 8:59 am
Off to hike Franklin Canyon, keep hope alive boys. One of these days itll happen, I think. PEACE!!
August 7th, 2009 at 9:01 am
SnB,
I think you will see parts of the first team offense and defense play much of the 1st QTR. Guys like Nmamdi, D-Mac, Kelly, Russell, Miller and others will be very limited though. I would expect to see Mitchell play a lot, DHB to get some good work in, and a lot of Ricky Brown in the middle.
August 7th, 2009 at 9:03 am
Dirty Raccoon,
Yeah, I just think that Russell, the WRs and the safeties need to get as many reps as possible. If there are gaps…they need to iron them out before week 1.
This is not a veteran team just fine tuning themselves…the Raiders are a work in progress and they need to be on the field
August 7th, 2009 at 9:04 am
Hey AZ,
Do you know of any Raider bars in the Glendale/Phoenix area?
August 7th, 2009 at 9:04 am
RaiderRon Says:
August 7th, 2009 at 8:42 am
The Raiders havent won in my lifetime. What do I care what happened B.R.? (before ron)
The Cubs havent won in my lifetime,and I liked them when they had Earnie Banks,Sweet-Swinging Billy Williams,Don Kessinger,Glean Beckert,and I’m 51 years old but I still cared what they did B4 I was born and I hope 2C them win it in my lifetime.If you like a team Ron you just like them no matter what they did B4 you were born.I cant explain it.When I was a little Raider,I was made fun of by my uncles because they were all Bears fans.Evev at 4 or 5 years old I was a Raider and I didnt give a sh!t what my uncles thought and they were my heroes then cause they was in the army.They ask me why da Raiders and at 4 or 5 years all I knew 2 say was because I just DO.So RaiderRon belly-up 2 AZRaiders Kool Aid stand and take a big chug:Why because thats JUST THE WAY IT IS
August 7th, 2009 at 9:10 am
SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
August 7th, 2009 at 9:03 am
Dirty Raccoon,
Yeah, I just think that Russell, the WRs and the safeties need to get as many reps as possible. If there are gaps…they need to iron them out before week 1.
This is not a veteran team just fine tuning themselves…the Raiders are a work in progress and they need to be on the field
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100% agree.
August 7th, 2009 at 9:15 am
Mike Nolan is spinning his wheels with the Donkeys defense.
August 7th, 2009 at 9:16 am
SO LONG DUDE
August 7th, 2009 at 9:17 am
WTF Ron?
Who ever you are!! You are crakin me up wit dat sht. I am having a perficly good horrible day, and you come along and make some kind of sick twisted funny joke/comment.
THANKS!
August 7th, 2009 at 9:22 am
LOL @ this cat man!!!!!
August 7th, 2009 at 9:24 am
Why has RaiderRon left but Raider Ron is still here talking silly stuff? Is that right? You can use the same name just a space between the names?
August 7th, 2009 at 9:24 am
ohh gosh not glen dorsey!!!!!! it was ahhh cr@p i forgot anyone remember our savior Dorsey??? what was his first name man he was sooooooooo hot!!!!!
August 7th, 2009 at 9:26 am
AZRaiderFan Says:
August 7th, 2009 at 9:04 am
Hey AZ,
Do you know of any Raider bars in the Glendale/Phoenix area?
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Shanagins on Bell I think. I went there once before my Sunday ticket was hooked up and they ended up not being able to watch the game. i was pizzed as you can imagine.
August 7th, 2009 at 9:26 am
im here never left Raider TW space or no space I would have my way with have the sf squad!!!!!
August 7th, 2009 at 9:28 am
The Raiders are a pick against the Boys next week on the spread. We have been the beasts of the preseason the last few years (weren’t we undefeated in the bed ‘n breakfast preseason, lol), so it may be an opportunity. Who the 3rd string QB is, is the most important factor of preseason wagering, and Frye seems to be looking good. And yes, getting preseason action probably shows a little bit of an issue, so be it.
August 7th, 2009 at 9:28 am
im going hike the Smith Caynyon Alex that is!! Man thats one slippery slope!! but here I come!!!! Have fun guys and go faiders!!!!!!
August 7th, 2009 at 9:29 am
A topic off raiders for a sec…any1 watch that 4th and long show? any1 know how holly is doing in Dallas so far? would be kinda interesting to see him on thursday.
August 7th, 2009 at 9:29 am
later duder Jr.
August 7th, 2009 at 9:30 am
holly is doing in Dallas so far?
who????
August 7th, 2009 at 9:33 am
Raider Headbutt Says:
August 7th, 2009 at 9:29 am
A topic off raiders for a sec…any1 watch that 4th and long show? any1 know how holly is doing in Dallas so far? would be kinda interesting to see him on thursday.
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H*ll ya that show as sick! I haven’t heard anything about Holley over in Dallas. They don’t even mention it on ANY sports media network. Can’t figure that one out and no news from camp about him.
August 7th, 2009 at 9:33 am
Thats why i asked if you watched the show or not, im assuming you didn’t.
Holly a WR got a training camp spot for Dallas and I was just curious if there was anythign new on him.
August 7th, 2009 at 9:35 am
I’ll give you something new, he’s 6 days away from being sent back to reality.
August 7th, 2009 at 9:36 am
Holly does Dallas? Did see that one!! lol
August 7th, 2009 at 9:37 am
ahhhh I heard something bout that!!! did he get his shot??? LOL he will be the last one cut just to make the show !!!! Wait how fast is this guy Al might want to chat with him!!
August 7th, 2009 at 9:41 am
RaiderTW Says:
August 7th, 2009 at 9:36 am
Holly does Dallas? Did see that one!! lol
holly is that debbie’s younger sister?!?!??!?!!?
August 7th, 2009 at 9:42 am
That show was sick, even if it was for the Cowgirls, I’m a football fan in general.
It was a reality show Oak with 6 DB’s and 6WR’s competing for a roster spot on the DC’s. Holley is a big possesion reciver and probably runs a 4.5, so Al’s not interested. Was a cool show to watch, and Mike Irvin in da Man on that show LOL.
August 7th, 2009 at 9:46 am
The Patriots remind me of that Dude that calls your girlfriend as soon as you breakup with them. Yea you broke up but it still pisses you off.
August 7th, 2009 at 9:47 am
Anybody watch that John Madden Road to Canton on NFL network. My wife Tivo’d it for me a few days ago and I just watched it. It was actually pretty good.
August 7th, 2009 at 9:49 am
Na tay, but i’ll watch for the re-run fasho.
August 7th, 2009 at 9:50 am
It was a reality show Oak with 6 DB’s and 6WR’s competing for a roster spot on the DC’s. Holley is a big possesion reciver and probably runs a 4.5, so Al’s not interested. Was a cool show to watch, and Mike Irvin in da Man on that show LOL.
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Yeah, but if there are 6 DB’s and 6 WR’s battling it out…I will bet you a dollar Al Davis sent someone to watch….LOL
August 7th, 2009 at 9:52 am
244: good post….
i think cable doing a good job in trying to prepare this team for the regular season. contrary to all the haters out there , i believe weare on our way. i see a very exciting team that on the offense side of the ball i see alot of points on the board ( to much talent not to )
we should have an explosive back field and if our young rec’s make plays down field zach miller could make the pro bowl. all this hinges on the offensive line. i’m cool with the left side if the right does a decent job i’m looking at a wide open attack ! that should bring confusion to opposing teams.
more on the line …. if they give our qb time we will
see jamarcus be the franchise he as drafted to be.
if the offense does what i envision ,the defense won’t be on the field as much and should make plays. and should make stops ( i hope ). if the d-line creates pressure everything will fall into place i’m very excited about our secondary.
and the linebackers seem bent on stopping the run. like i say thoug this hinges on the d-line.
bottom line ….
i see an exciting team that will compete we have a tough schedule but we will win games i think the division can be taken week one will say alot (but it won’t make or break our season) . we gonna surprise people those punks on tv will eat crow .
we will knock on the door this year and with
a few additions in the off season we will kick the door down.
just in case one of these lines miss
these bombs just
keep coming at ya………… go raiders 2009.
August 7th, 2009 at 9:53 am
I thought it was kinda funny that the Raiders scheduled there practices to start at 4:20p.
August 7th, 2009 at 9:53 am
Hawkins was a guy on the show I thought would fit in our system. Super fast but under-sized. Like 5-9 but he could PLAY no doubt. He’d be a good Gunner.
August 7th, 2009 at 9:54 am
raidertay Says:
August 7th, 2009 at 9:53 am
I thought it was kinda funny that the Raiders scheduled there practices to start at 4:20p.
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It’s oakland bro, that’s when the magic happens!
Legalize.
August 7th, 2009 at 9:54 am
I agree with Cable when he says that the OL is pretty good, but just not very deep…..and he said that B4 Barnes went down.
Sounds like they have dominated the practices thus far. I dont know if thats becaue of a good OL or a horrible DL.
August 7th, 2009 at 9:56 am
Joe Avezzano the cowboys old assistant said during the show that he thinks Holley is better than some of the back ups they already had, and the guy is raw, played basketball mostly and came in and dominated.
AZ Raider Says:
August 7th, 2009 at 9:53 am
Hawkins was a guy on the show I thought would fit in our system. Super fast but under-sized. Like 5-9 but he could PLAY no doubt. He’d be a good Gunner.
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Ya I liked him better to be honest. They both worked hard thats for sure but Hawkins I thought showed more to be honest.
August 7th, 2009 at 9:57 am
thought it was kinda funny that the Raiders scheduled there practices to start at 4:20p.
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Now put down the bong & hit the field!!!!
August 7th, 2009 at 9:58 am
LOL @ Steven Tyler. The lead singer for Homosmith fell backwards off a stage in Sturgis, SD, landed on fans, injured his head and broke a shoulder.
Hope he didn’t land on our boy Dakota!
If Tyler had fallen with his mouth open the fans would have been swallowed whole.
August 7th, 2009 at 9:59 am
Yeah, but if there are 6 DB’s and 6 WR’s battling it out…I will bet you a dollar Al Davis sent someone to watch….LOL
LOL@ THAT good one S&B
August 7th, 2009 at 10:01 am
Okay Nation … the t-bone from the East is back in the house … all strapped in and ready to fire away! BTW, good afternoon everyone (and even you too, Richochet!)
August 7th, 2009 at 10:01 am
Ya I liked him better to be honest. They both worked hard thats for sure but Hawkins I thought showed more to be honest.
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Yeah, I thought it was close but I gave it to Holley. I bet it was even and Holley got the nod because Hawkins comes from a wealthy NFL family and Holley comes from a less fortunate background. i think Jerry made the right choice to give it to Holley. I bet Hawkins landed a fewe work outs with teams after the show. We’ll see if anyone reports anything.
August 7th, 2009 at 10:02 am
welcome Tbone howz the Big East???? where you at bro???
August 7th, 2009 at 10:03 am
Just got a report that Holley is now dating Jessica Simpson!
August 7th, 2009 at 10:04 am
Hey OAKlifer — I’m in D.C., trying to keep an eye on the Obama Administration and making sure all the California elected officials are actually doing their jobs (and not pretending to be Redskins fans!)
August 7th, 2009 at 10:07 am
raidertbone Says:
August 7th, 2009 at 10:04 am
Hey OAKlifer — I’m in D.C., trying to keep an eye on the Obama Administration and making sure all the California elected officials are actually doing their jobs (and not pretending to be Redskins fans!)
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Great post brother yea they get a little high on “the hog” around there!!! LOL
August 7th, 2009 at 10:09 am
raidertbone, what up? Mornin.
August 7th, 2009 at 10:10 am
T-bone, damn that sounds good… I got some Rib-eyes in the fridge for tonight, can’t wait till 6! Weekend is calling AZ already this morning.
August 7th, 2009 at 10:12 am
Sounded like my boy Kirk was a little Butt-hurt about Ricky gettin those MLB snaps in camp. Kirk just gotta put his head down and play ball, in the middle or outside. Whatever gets us “W’s” baby, we got you back no matter where you play 52!
August 7th, 2009 at 10:17 am
Defensive end Jay Richardson, when asked if the Raiders defensive system had undergone much change under John Marshall: “We all know this is Al’s defense. And we love it.”
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Proof that our defense will never change. So, will this finally convince some of the folks in here that actually think the DC has control over the scheme? Probably not….
I just hope Marshall can coach “man-defense-with-little-to-no-blitzing” better than Ryan could. I like his approach so far.
August 7th, 2009 at 10:19 am
where’d that come from dirty?
August 7th, 2009 at 10:21 am
Kirk should’ve stopped biting on play fakes, getting beat on an island, making bad audibles, over pursuing and making tackles 5-7 yds down field.
Better play onthe other side of the ball this year Cap’n…
August 7th, 2009 at 10:22 am
****mis quote****
I was told JRich said “we all know the Al Davis defense” , and “We love it” “man on man” “it has been this way my whole time here, so we are on track”
August 7th, 2009 at 10:22 am
TBB,
Everyone knows it’s Al’s D banana. Marshall will have to run man, but he’s gonna blitz, trust me. So long as he is successful at it Al won’t say shyt. He ran a similar system when we was in Seattle. IMO he has better personel in Oakland.
August 7th, 2009 at 10:23 am
AZ Raider Says:
August 7th, 2009 at 10:19 am
where’d that come from dirty?
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Yes, that is the question.
NATION where did it come from?
DirtyRaccoon Says:
August 7th, 2009 at 10:14 am
FRANTZ All right, listen up. You people are not dying on me in combat. You fucking, new guys will do everything to prove me wrong. You’ll walk on trails, kick cans…sleep on guard, smoke dope and diddely-bop…through the bush like you were back on the block. On guard at night you’ll write letters, play with your organ…and think of your girl back home. Forget her. Some hair head has her on her back right now…and is telling her to fuck for peace. This is Han. Those of you who are foolish will think of him as…gook, slope, slant or dink. He is your enemy. He came over on the Chieu Hoi programme. And he will go back there after he fattens on C- rations. And he will be hunting your young arses in the Ashau Valley. Now forget about this Viet Cong shit. What you’ll encounter out there is… hard core NVA, north Vietnamese…motivated, highly trained and well equipped. If you meet Han or his cousins, you will give him respect. And refer to those little bastards as the Nathanial Victor. People, I am tired…of filling body bags with your dumb fucking mistakes. Do you think this funny? Alphabet.
August 7th, 2009 at 10:23 am
7.62 full metal jacket
August 7th, 2009 at 10:25 am
Nnamdi21 Says:
August 7th, 2009 at 10:21 am
Kirk should’ve stopped biting on play fakes, getting beat on an island, making bad audibles, over pursuing and making tackles 5-7 yds down field.
Better play onthe other side of the ball this year Cap’n…
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True as 52’s a true Raider. Our LB’s will step it up this year 21 I hope. Seems like Cables approach was heavy in basics which is where we needed the most improvment. 38 days and we’ll find out.
August 7th, 2009 at 10:26 am
It’s Al’s defense. all right .. and he’s going to bring back the Tooz, Dr. Death and the Man From Mars (testing everyone’s memory banks here!)
August 7th, 2009 at 10:26 am
Does anyone know if HBO still does that Hard Knock training camp show this year.
August 7th, 2009 at 10:27 am
301. Absolutely. Dscipline was the key ingredient missing.
August 7th, 2009 at 10:27 am
No, but I think they do “Hard Knockers” now.
August 7th, 2009 at 10:31 am
Hamburger Hill!
August 7th, 2009 at 10:31 am
Hey 21, the D looked pretty solid the last 2 weeks though. we were hitting gaps, getting sacks and pressure and the LB’s kept the plays in check. Was a step in the right direction now Marshall and Cable gotta show ‘em how they did it.
August 7th, 2009 at 10:32 am
Bengals this year Tay…
August 7th, 2009 at 10:34 am
raidertbone Says:
August 7th, 2009 at 10:26 am
It’s Al’s defense. all right .. and he’s going to bring back the Tooz, Dr. Death and the Man From Mars (testing everyone’s memory banks here!)
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Ha ha ha, yer testing us?? LMFAO, boy go home and get yer Shine box!!
Tooz, Dr. Death and the Man From Mars , what did you google “raider nick names or sompin??
August 7th, 2009 at 10:35 am
Mercy, T-bone, I give. What was thier real names?
August 7th, 2009 at 10:36 am
DirtyRaccoon:
Nope, just dusting off old relics from the past … just like your tired Asian-nam rant!
August 7th, 2009 at 10:37 am
AZ Raider Says:
August 7th, 2009 at 10:31 am
Hey 21, the D looked pretty solid the last 2 weeks though. we were hitting gaps, getting sacks and pressure and the LB’s kept the plays in check. Was a step in the right direction now Marshall and Cable gotta show ‘em how they did it.
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Offense made an appearance and helped our boys out.
Lets hope they put up some serious points, let our pass rush cover D rest…
August 7th, 2009 at 10:37 am
306. D’oh! Nailed it!
August 7th, 2009 at 10:37 am
John “The Tooz” Matuszak, Skip “Dr. Death” Thomas and everyone’s favorite “Man from Mars” – Otis Sistrunk … all from the 70s.
August 7th, 2009 at 10:38 am
Fargas could have been an elite running back.
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S&B: where?
the CFL, NFL Europe or arena league?
Fargas is injury prone. Plus he can’t catch passes out of the backfield. He’s not elusive and he doesn’t break many tackles (if any)
the zone blocking system is RB friendly. Thats why you saw Jordan, Rhodes, Echemandu, etc in 2007 and pretty much every RB Denver ever throws back there (besides last year – 7 RB’s on IR?) rip it up when given the opportunity
if it weren’t for the zbs Fargas might be 3rd string or out of the league by now. Certainly wouldn’t be taking any starter reps!
August 7th, 2009 at 10:41 am
I like Fargas, but I think we’re seeing his last year with us — if he doesn’t get traded first. Too bad, because he gets my “One Tough Mutha” Award.
August 7th, 2009 at 10:43 am
I love me some Fargas Nation… Imma keep his name outta my mouth though. Got 2 backs I’d start ahead of him, but I ain’t gonna rub it in. Fargas is a true Raidah. Can’t hate on him too hard.
August 7th, 2009 at 10:53 am
AZ:
I wouldn’t start Huggy Bear, Jr. over the other two either. I would like to see him run over Robert Ayers though, and welcome his Bronco butt into the NFL.
August 7th, 2009 at 10:55 am
Mornin Beeech.
August 7th, 2009 at 10:55 am
raidertbone Says:
August 7th, 2009 at 10:36 am
DirtyRaccoon:
Nope, just dusting off old relics from the past … just like your tired Asian-nam rant!
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True true.
August 7th, 2009 at 10:56 am
ahhh my favorite Beech,
whats up bro howz the haps????
August 7th, 2009 at 10:56 am
Beecham,
Everything you type is a waste of pixles…
August 7th, 2009 at 10:57 am
The University of Mars hasn’t had a graduate in years.
August 7th, 2009 at 10:58 am
Hey Beech!
I was wondering about the Crappers myself …
August 7th, 2009 at 10:59 am
It’s true that the University of Mars hasn’t had a graduate in years, but I understand that Crabtree’s advisor – er, cousin – recently got accepted there.
August 7th, 2009 at 11:00 am
raidertbone Says:
August 7th, 2009 at 10:53 am
AZ:
I wouldn’t start Huggy Bear, Jr. over the other two either. I would like to see him run over Robert Ayers though, and welcome his Bronco butt into the NFL.
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Haha, yeah….
August 7th, 2009 at 11:04 am
Truth be told Fargas had been out best back for a long time until we drafted DMAC and Bush got healthy. I’d start Fargas over Jordan any day.
August 7th, 2009 at 11:06 am
Damn it’s a grind tryin to make any paper today… It’s friggin S L O W here today. All good though, I’m ready for the weekend.
August 7th, 2009 at 11:10 am
Hey, if y’all want to check out something funny, go onto nfl.com … apparently, the Broncos had their largest crowd ever to watch a scrimmage and Orton really stunk up the joint — two picks in a row (one went back to the house) … they boo’d him, they boo’d the kicker .. hell, they even boo’d the punter … Dawkins has a broken hand … but it doesn’t seem that Josh McDaniels is the least bit worried. All I have to say is: Week 3, baby!
August 7th, 2009 at 11:11 am
So whats this UFL all about? Basically another AFL or whatever, cuz I heard some breaking news that FORMER NFL QB Tim Rattay and JP Lossman signed to the Vegas Team, I was pumped to hear that….sorry I can’t find the sarcasm button on my kerboard….
August 7th, 2009 at 11:15 am
Denver coach McDaniels went on to say “I learned a long time ago, that as a head coach you never have a good practice when you practice offense vs. defense” (I am absolutely not kidding you on this one). That has got to be one of the stupidest quotes I have ever heard from a head coach in my life! C’mon Week 3!
August 7th, 2009 at 11:15 am
Raider Headbutt Says:
August 7th, 2009 at 11:11 am
So whats this UFL all about? Basically another AFL or whatever
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Its a long shot…but remeber when we were considered to be in the “mickey mouse” leauge??? they will sign many more castoffs as well hey maybe crabbypatty or beech could get on a roster it is the UFL afterall!!!!
August 7th, 2009 at 11:17 am
Sloppy scrimmage for new QB Orton, Broncos draws boo birds
Associated Press
ENGLEWOOD, Colo. — The largest crowd ever to watch a Denver Broncos practice didn’t much like what it saw.
New quarterback Kyle Orton, acquired from the Chicago Bears for Pro Bowler Jay Cutler in the biggest NFL trade of the offseason, was booed by some of the 13,402 fans watching his unofficial debut at Invesco Field when he threw two interceptions and several bad passes during a structured scrimmage Thursday night.
Orton drew the fans’ ire when he was picked off twice by cornerback Andre’ Goodman, who returned the second interception for a long touchdown.
“I had a good day,” Goodman said in a lonely sentiment afterward.
Kyle Orton, QB
Denver Broncos
Career Statistics
Completion Pct.: 55.3
Passing Yards: 5,319
TD/INT: 30/27
Orton also was jeered when he threw a pass behind wide receiver Chad Jackson, again when he missed a wide-open Jabar Gaffney in the end zone and also when he floated a pass that cornerback Champ Bailey busted up down the middle.
“Fans can cheer. They can boo,” Orton said. “We’ve got good fans, and they’re passionate about their football, that’s for sure.”
Orton wasn’t alone in the fans’ disapproval. The crowd booed Brett Kern for two poor punts and also let Matt Prater have it for missing consecutive 43-yard field-goal attempts — one to the right and one way left — at the end of the scrimmage.
“I heard a few boos,” Prater said. “I had heard them during other boos, and then I missed a kick and really heard the boos. That’s part of the business.”
Prater hit three straight kicks to end the scrimmage and drew polite applause.
New Broncos coach Josh McDaniels was disappointed in a lot of things about the scrimmage but certainly not the fans’ reactions.
“It’s the National Football League, and that’s what people do, and they’ll cheer you when you should be cheered and boo you when you should be booed,” McDaniels said. “Hey, I’ve been around for a while. I understand that that’s going to happen, and it doesn’t surprise me and it doesn’t disappoint me.”
What disappointed McDaniels was the slew of mistakes all over the field, not that he wasn’t expecting to have mixed feelings.
“I learned a long time ago — in the spring — that as a head coach, you never have a good practice when you practice offense vs. defense,” McDaniels said, “because someone’s always going to make a good play and then the other side is on the other end of it.
“So there’s a lot of mistakes made tonight on both sides. Kyle obviously made a couple, but he certainly wasn’t alone, and we’ll go back to work tomorrow morning and fix what’s wrong.”
McDaniels declined to comment on rampant speculation that safety Brian Dawkins, the cornerstone of his defensive overhaul, has a broken hand and needs surgery.
Dawkins, who’s in his first season with the Broncos after 13 years with the Philadelphia Eagles, was hurt Tuesday. The Broncos have declined to reveal the nature or extent of Dawkins’ injury, saying only that he’ll be out a few days.
Rookie safety David Bruton has replaced Dawkins at strong safety with the Broncos’ first unit, and he fueled the speculation that the veteran’s injury was more serious than the team is letting on when he said after the Thursday morning walkthrough: “What happened with Dawkins, it’s sad, but you get your call, it’s time to step up … and hope for a speedy recovery.”
Dawkins wasn’t on the field Thursday. He plans to skip Friday’s workout to attend a memorial service in Philadelphia for former Eagles defensive coordinator Jim Johnson, who died last week.
McDaniels also declined to confirm reports that the team was close to signing rookie running back Knowshon Moreno, who was the 12th overall pick in the draft.
“I’d love for the guy to sign,” said running back Correll Buckhalter, who has been backing up starter LaMont Jordan at training camp during Moreno’s weeklong holdout. “It’s another added dimension to our offense.”
And Buckhalter shrugged off all the boo-birds.
“The booing doesn’t bother me at all,” he said. “I played in Philly — you get consistent boos there. You have to have thick skin.”
Copyright 2009 by The Associated Press
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Thanks T, so the other guys don’t have to go get it…
August 7th, 2009 at 11:17 am
I guess its going to at least give the NFL an idea of the market on those areas. See what attendance will be like for some pro ball.
August 7th, 2009 at 11:18 am
Tbone: I agree that Denver is garbage, but by Week 3 Moreno will be under contract & Marshall will be healthy. this is our most bitter rivalry. Whens the last time we swept them?
the Raiders need to improve by leaps & bounds from previous years before we can chalk any games on the schedule up to an “easy win”
August 7th, 2009 at 11:19 am
Thanks AZ!
I just thought the picture of Orton was funny (looks like he’s waving to his mommy!)
August 7th, 2009 at 11:21 am
The Big Banana Says:
August 7th, 2009 at 10:17 am
Defensive end Jay Richardson, when asked if the Raiders defensive system had undergone much change under John Marshall: “We all know this is Al’s defense. And we love it.”
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Proof that our defense will never change. So, will this finally convince some of the folks in here that actually think the DC has control over the scheme? Probably not….
I just hope Marshall can coach “man-defense-with-little-to-no-blitzing” better than Ryan could. I like his approach so far.
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My biggest concern…again…is that Marshall is able to run the defense the way he wants too AND there was agreement on how things were going to go at the time of Marshall’s hiring.
The defense has been unacceptable the last 6 yrs. No ands, ifs or buts about it. Its been weak, easily pushed around, with too much finesse and not enough mean.
I reserve judgement until the week 1 game. Regardless of the scoreboard, look for how the defense plays, the playcalling, how it looks, aggressiveness.
This passive B.S has to stop now!
August 7th, 2009 at 11:22 am
“I’d love for the guy to sign,” said running back Correll Buckhalter, who has been backing up starter LaMont Jordan
NUFF Said
And Double R we would have swept them in kiffies era no if it wsnt for a last second time out boched feild goal I cant remember….
August 7th, 2009 at 11:23 am
Nnamdi21 Says:
August 7th, 2009 at 10:37 am
AZ Raider Says:
August 7th, 2009 at 10:31 am
Hey 21, the D looked pretty solid the last 2 weeks though. we were hitting gaps, getting sacks and pressure and the LB’s kept the plays in check. Was a step in the right direction now Marshall and Cable gotta show ‘em how they did it.
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Offense made an appearance and helped our boys out.
Lets hope they put up some serious points, let our pass rush cover D rest…
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Nnamdi, regardless of what you want to call this defense….they have to stop the run. I like that Marshall is focused on players being in the right place and covering their gaps and all that.
But saying “pass rush cover D” hints at a pre-packaged excuse to get run-over. Defense has to be physical. Otherwise those NFC East and AFC North teams will take our “pass rush cover D” physically assault it!
August 7th, 2009 at 11:24 am
Denver also has Eddie Royal, Tony Scheffler & one of the NFL’s beat o-lines.
I think it’s thier defense that will continue to drag the team down. Hopefully we can take advantage of that
KC had an atrocious defense last year and they still managed a win against us the second time we faced them … we need to focus on us!
August 7th, 2009 at 11:24 am
AZ Raider Says:
August 7th, 2009 at 11:06 am
Damn it’s a grind tryin to make any paper today… It’s friggin S L O W here today. All good though, I’m ready for the weekend.
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TNA. Up 10.7%
August 7th, 2009 at 11:25 am
best, not “beat”
sorry!
August 7th, 2009 at 11:26 am
Everyone’s right, of course. I hate to say it, but a lot of rests on the shoulders (and the bellies) of Sands, Kelly and Warren.
August 7th, 2009 at 11:26 am
See thats what kills me about this team in the past, we have a D that has speed over physicality and we still get too many penalties.
At least if they were knocking heads around and getting called for stuff it would be somewhat forgiveable
August 7th, 2009 at 11:27 am
back to work. see you guys later on …
August 7th, 2009 at 11:27 am
38 days till the Nation shocks the world. Hope your ready guys.
August 7th, 2009 at 11:28 am
Later, Rockstar!
August 7th, 2009 at 11:29 am
Later RR
August 7th, 2009 at 11:30 am
I think everyone would pretty much agree that in next year’s draft, unless there’s anybody out there who can run a sub-4 second 40, we need to go O-line and D-line!
August 7th, 2009 at 11:31 am
raidertbone Says:
Denver coach McDaniels went on to say “I learned a long time ago, that as a head coach….
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Hahahaha, how long has McDaniels been a head coach??!?!?!?! All of 6 months,the moron!!!
August 7th, 2009 at 11:32 am
Agreed on the line. I nice runstopping hole filling DT would be a nice addition.
August 7th, 2009 at 11:35 am
beeecham Says:
August 7th, 2009 at 11:05 am
Hey dudes. And AZ. Krappy, if he’s off his meds, should roll in here in the next half hour by my calculations. That’s right after his wife tosses his soiled jammies and hoses him down in the backyard.
Oakcrapper, today is the day for the big talk with your bud Krappy. If not, he’ll be wandering through the Arby’s drive thru in the nude by 3:00.
Hey Lady Raccoon, where’s a good joint in South Sacramento to watch the fight tomorrow? Looking for some lovely ladies with some awesome chili cheese fries on the side. You know what I’m talking about.
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Yaeh, go to Willie’s. LOVELY ladies, great fries.
August 7th, 2009 at 11:36 am
Keep an eye out this year for DT Ndamukong Suh, a fifth-year starter for Nebraska (I know, I know — Bill Callahan!) — HOPEFULLY, we would have to trade up to get him, but he looks like a freak!
August 7th, 2009 at 11:37 am
raidertbone Says:
August 7th, 2009 at 11:30 am
I think everyone would pretty much agree that in next year’s draft, unless there’s anybody out there who can run a sub-4 second 40, we need to go O-line and D-line!
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Taylor Mays. SOLB 6′-3.5″ 4.39 speed
August 7th, 2009 at 11:37 am
235 Lbs
August 7th, 2009 at 11:38 am
hopefully our team will finish well enough that we will be able to just draft the best player available regardless of position next year instead of having to draft for position of need.but do we really want to start talking about next years draft already?
August 7th, 2009 at 11:39 am
Got too many LBs and DBs, as it is. Oh, wait a minute — Al is drafting (Fabian Washington, Michael Huff, etc.) I stand corrected!
August 7th, 2009 at 11:40 am
Most good teams play for now and plan for later.
August 7th, 2009 at 11:41 am
Mayes will be a top 10 pick.we won’t be in position to get him.
August 7th, 2009 at 11:43 am
He’ll probably end up going to the Patriots.
August 7th, 2009 at 11:46 am
I will settle for Terrence Cody 6-5 365Lbs
August 7th, 2009 at 11:46 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
August 7th, 2009 at 11:24 am
Denver also has Eddie Royal, Tony Scheffler & one of the NFL’s beat o-lines.
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Scheffler’s constantly injured and beat or best, they certainly do NOT have one of the best O lines.
Clady’s had one good year. Looks very strong, but its early in his career. Jay Cutler made him look very very good with his quick release.
C Casey Wiegemann is a 14 yr vet who seriously thought of retirement this off season.
They do have G Ben Hamilton back after a serious concusion in pre season 08′ cost him the whole year.
Tackle Ryan Harris had debilitating back surgery last year and they’re not sure he can stay healthy.
Guard Chris Cuper’s a jack of all trades master of none. Pretty erratic.
Clady and Hamilton maybe solid. Wiegmann’s a vet who can get it done but is in serious decline.
The rest are questionable. Its the system.
Our system now too…
August 7th, 2009 at 11:47 am
Lions backup OT Damion Cook is lost for the year with a triceps injury … now’s our chance: we can trade them Khalif Barnes for Calvin Johnson (then we’ll have both Calvin AND Jarmarcus!) … oops, I just woke up!
August 7th, 2009 at 11:48 am
2010 draft?
fastest lineman
August 7th, 2009 at 11:50 am
Im telling you guys, google terrence cody. This guy is a beast.
August 7th, 2009 at 11:50 am
No!!!!!!!!!!! I don’t wish Burgess well in New England. I hope he is a bust in that system. As far as I’m concerned, he was the primary weak link on the Raiders.He was the primary weak link not because his potential, it was because of his lack of effort and commitment to the Raiders, like his new teammate Randy Moss. May burgess choke on sauted mountain oysters.
Raiders Be with you
August 7th, 2009 at 11:52 am
Al had better trade away our first rounder, or we had better hope it is in the 20s! How many players on one team can you guarantee to pay 30+ mil?
Al should trade the 1st rouder for more in the third and fourth. Thats where most of our good draftees come from anyway…
August 7th, 2009 at 11:55 am
Trent Williams (OU) and/or Russell Okung (Oklahoma State); both are big, strong, quick-footed OTs.
August 7th, 2009 at 11:57 am
lefty12 Says:
August 7th, 2009 at 11:41 am
Mayes will be a top 10 pick.we won’t be in position to get him
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ANY team can draft ANY player every year. The question is will you give up enough to move up?
August 7th, 2009 at 11:58 am
Our first pick had better be DL.
I’m not even trippin on the draft. Still 38 days to go before we shock the world yet Nation.
August 7th, 2009 at 11:59 am
Yea I was reading about those 2 guys as well, look promising. Ciron Black as well, guys hasn’t allowed a sack by the person HE was blocking in 2 years.
August 7th, 2009 at 12:00 pm
It’s always fun to talk about the draft, while we wait for actual heads to bash. Speaking of bashing heads, I hope we serve up a few Cowboy heads on a platter next week!
August 7th, 2009 at 12:02 pm
Raider Headbutt Says:
August 7th, 2009 at 11:59 am
Yea I was reading about those 2 guys as well, look promising. Ciron Black as well, guys hasn’t allowed a sack by the person HE was blocking in 2 years.
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raidertbone Says:
August 7th, 2009 at 11:55 am
Trent Williams (OU) and/or Russell Okung (Oklahoma State); both are big, strong, quick-footed OTs.
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We drafted a LT like that a few years back. His name was Busttt er um o yeah it was Gallery.
August 7th, 2009 at 12:03 pm
Ok so we never draft a LT again?
August 7th, 2009 at 12:03 pm
Haha now your talking T. “Mad Mike” gonna get to unleash the fury in that game LOL. Can’t wait to hear the “thud” when he sticks it to Felix Jones LOL.
August 7th, 2009 at 12:04 pm
Dirt Gallery was no bust… Just not a LT LOL, our bad… Probably one of the best LG’s in the NFL right NOW.
August 7th, 2009 at 12:07 pm
New post
August 7th, 2009 at 12:07 pm
It’s usually easier to switch from left to right on the O-line. Let’s see, who do we have right now at the right OT spot?
August 7th, 2009 at 12:17 pm
Got about five more minutes before I have to run, people!
August 7th, 2009 at 12:26 pm
Later, Nation!
(East Coast t-bone signing off, for now)