Raiders to address tackling?
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Friday, August 7th, 2009 at 11:54 am in Oakland Raiders.
According to Raiders middle linebacker Kirk Morrison, the Raiders will not only go in full pads but complete tackles in team sessions when they practice today at 3:30 p.m.
“Live contact with tackle to the ground has finally come. Its gonna be some good battles out there today at practice,” Morrison wrote on his Twitter account.
The Raiders, and most NFL teams, rarely finish tackles in padded practices since most injuries occur on the ground. They did it exactly once last year under Lane Kiffin, and it was limited to a single goal line drill during a night session. Then they immediately switched from full pads to shells for the rest of the practice.
Tackling has been an issue with the Raiders for the better part of the past six years, both at the point of attack and particularly in one-on-one situations along the back seven.
Not sure if this is an isolated situation or something which will be done occasionally during camp, something which probably will be addressed by Tom Cable following practice.
I won’t be at practice today or Saturday, tending to some issues at home, but will relay information later this evening through beat writer Steve Corkran.
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August 7th, 2009 at 11:59 am
FIRST ! Come on Jerry , what issues at home could possibly be more important than camp right now ?
August 7th, 2009 at 12:01 pm
THIS IS GOOD!!!!
August 7th, 2009 at 12:06 pm
who 4got the address???
August 7th, 2009 at 12:08 pm
Yet another Raiders camp update, then home to the kids. Blog it at http://bit.ly/QgiAK ?
August 7th, 2009 at 12:10 pm
Life happens!!
August 7th, 2009 at 12:10 pm
you never know Bigsindo
August 7th, 2009 at 12:11 pm
Just caught up with the DT talk, Missed you again Double R, Later Bro!
I’m sure there will be some seriouos moves in the upcoming draft we cant afford a top ten pick nor should we be in that position. we will probaly have a mid to late teens pick And Isure hope there is a huge RUNNING BACK EATING QB KILLING GET LOW HANDS IN THE AIR KNOCK THE SNOT OUT OF YOU DT that will be there for the taking we are stacked with 1st round talent and huge contracts now lets fill the roster with deep drafts and REAL BALLERS!!!!
PLAYOFFBOUND!!!!
August 7th, 2009 at 12:12 pm
I’ll drink 2 that OAKlifer =)
August 7th, 2009 at 12:13 pm
1st make sure everyone knows their assignments.then make sure they tackle properly.looks like this staff has the right ideas.Cable wasn’t kidding when he said he wanted his ass’ts. to be better teachers.it looks like the pieces are falling into place,at least lets hope so.
August 7th, 2009 at 12:15 pm
NATION, What is up???????
MIKE MITCHELL, I hope he does not hurt anyone.QBs dont throw anything across the middle or leave aWR high and dry, could get ugly…..
A good article on DHB:
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/231822-heyward-bey-he-cant-catch-the-ball-he-cant-catch-the-ball
August 7th, 2009 at 12:16 pm
I wonder if MM thinks this is a waste of time???
August 7th, 2009 at 12:17 pm
just chewing some fat there,Thec07 =)
August 7th, 2009 at 12:20 pm
UPDATE: Former Raiders executive Michael Lombardi, who writes for the National Football Post, just reported the Raiders got a third-round pick in 2010 and fifth-round pick in 2011
Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/raiders/index#ixzz0NWhgHTPQ
August 7th, 2009 at 12:21 pm
oops sorry
August 7th, 2009 at 12:23 pm
chewing fat is good, so long as you wash it down with a good beverage, preferable a tall cool glass of Kool-Aid…..
Hey does anyone have any new on the guy the pats released to make room for burgess, Oline named
Al Johnson?
August 7th, 2009 at 12:25 pm
lefty12 Says:
August 7th, 2009 at 12:13 pm
Amen Brother!!!!!!
Whats up Thec!!! Life is good!!1 “trimming the fat” with burgess lazy ass sure he could rush the passer what 65% of the time!!!
August 7th, 2009 at 12:28 pm
Thec07,that was a KILLER READ!!!Man the sky truly is the limit 4 DHB!!!
August 7th, 2009 at 12:29 pm
Thec07 Says:
August 7th, 2009 at 12:23 pm
Hey does anyone have any new on the guy the pats released to make room for burgess, Oline named
Al Johnson?
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2nd rnd pick in 2003. Started a lot of games for Dallas. Not too much I can find…
August 7th, 2009 at 12:30 pm
Remember when DHB was drafted Janokowski went wild cheering we got ghb we got ghb
August 7th, 2009 at 12:31 pm
Oaklifier, he was okay while he was here. didnt like his ethic, not working out with the TEAM……
August 7th, 2009 at 12:32 pm
Raider Head butt, thanks Bro….
August 7th, 2009 at 12:34 pm
4eva, Anything I can do to uplift the NATION….
cris “coked out” carter, and tom “gorrilla face” jackson will be eating a lot of S#!T this year….
I do not like those 2 idiots…..
August 7th, 2009 at 12:34 pm
4eva, cool read with that “scribe” article. Now when that happens none of the real analyst will give any love to the Raiders even then…
He’s right about Louis Murphy though, Definately a steal, he was expected to go in the 2nd.
I’m pumped up about all the class character young guys we got. JLH, DMAC, DHB, “Mad Mike”, Murphy, Scott, all good character guys to go with 52,53,21,25,24…. Man, I’m just ready to go. 38 days….
August 7th, 2009 at 12:36 pm
Raider Headbutt Says:
August 7th, 2009 at 12:29 pm
Thec07 Says:
August 7th, 2009 at 12:23 pm
Hey does anyone have any new on the guy the pats released to make room for burgess, Oline named
Al Johnson?
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2nd rnd pick in 2003. Started a lot of games for Dallas. Not too much I can find…
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Shoot maybe Cable can make something outta him. Any former 2nd round OL pick would be worth a look, no?
August 7th, 2009 at 12:40 pm
JMac’s still the man…or his biggest critics wouldn’t even be in here.
It’s STILL a great day to be a Raiders fan. Isn’t it?
What a camp so far, and what good vibes are coming from the team! Now for some silliness from the usual suspects:
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
The irony in the Crabtree situation is that the Niners are capitalizing on the fact that Al Davis has lost it, just as much as Crabtree’s agent is. When Al Davis passes on a better player, the next team looking to draft that guy gets a bargain. That’s why the other owners are always giving Al Davis props. They’re trying to legitimize him because this is just one way where his craziness compliments them. Of course, Crabtree’s agent is on to this game, and is vowing to not the Niners pull it off. Keep your eyes on this Crabtree situation, because it’s ALL about Al Davis.
???????
The Niners are capitalizing on the fact that “Al’s lost it?” Al signed DHB to a stellar contract — which in-turn puts pressure on fellow owners to pony-up. The Niners are stuck, because they knew they had a head-case coming in…and they also know they don’t want to pay the guy “Al” money. That, in no way, helps the Niners.
Al did his job, and it seems to be working. Working contracts is a much bigger deal than just making agreements between a player and his team — it’s a tactical move within ownership, every one of which affects every other owner.
You, MR, can’t seem to find much to really complain about in Raiders-land in the PRESENT TENSE…and it’s driving you, and guys like you NUTS. It’s pathetic, yet interesting to see, just how desperately you guys reach for negativity.
Again…the Niners capitalizing? By drafting Crabtree because Al didn’t? Nobody…not even you, the crown prince of bitter know-it-alls, can legitimately claim Crabtree is a better pick than DHB right now. DHB’s actually in an NFL camp…and Crab can’t even crab down a field right now (at least he’s not willing to show it).
So far, Al’s off-season has been about as well-orchestrated, and looks as promising, as any GM’s in the league.
And…the other owners giving Al Props all the time?!? That itself is worth gagging on, MR. Throwing out falsehoods, because you don’t have anything else NEW to throw out. You make yourself look worse all the time.
August 7th, 2009 at 12:40 pm
It seems to me that this team is starting to really come together.
I know we havent arrived yet but this young team is going to grow with each other and continue to get better.
I feel confident that we will be better than he “experts” predict…..
August 7th, 2009 at 12:41 pm
Wats good everybody im back
August 7th, 2009 at 12:41 pm
Well he plays C, and we would have to cut some1 to actually get a look at what he does in our zone scheme.
August 7th, 2009 at 12:43 pm
HayesDaze37, What up Bro, Dont know if you read it on the other thread but I apologize for coming at you
the way I did. I accused you of trolling me, you said it wasnt you so I have to respect your word.
I have no beef with you.
1 NATION
August 7th, 2009 at 12:44 pm
As 4EVA says-
BEERE ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
August 7th, 2009 at 12:45 pm
I saw he plays C not a fit as we have C’s, or is he better than the onse we have????
August 7th, 2009 at 12:45 pm
Thec — Cool with me, man. As long as the “Collective” doesn’t come between us! Ha.
August 7th, 2009 at 12:46 pm
I will go on record as saying IF Mr. Davis was responsible for us taking DHB, and Mike Mitchell I have new found respect for him. Still dont appreciate the way he runs the franchise, but who would have thought……
August 7th, 2009 at 12:47 pm
Post 32, ROFLMAO……. LOL Hayes that a classic Bro…
August 7th, 2009 at 12:47 pm
Burgess is gone! Holy Toledo! I’m watching too much baseball.
3 and 5 are not bad although 3 and 4 would be better.
May Burgess be as good to New England as fat ass Jordan.
August 7th, 2009 at 12:50 pm
MIKE MITCHELL is a monster. PERIOD. If thats Mr. Davis
work he still has it working. Oh and the DHB signing
Not just a speed thing they have to know something
to pass on Crabtree like that. I watched a lot of crabtree event though it was a system he had the mindset to take over games, and he did. not even going to factor in Louis Murphy who was project a 2nd rounder thats cream…….
We are a couple of puzzle pieces away from a really special team……
August 7th, 2009 at 12:51 pm
Well he was playing with Dallas the year before Tony started, and I dont beleive Dallas was a force with Drew under C.
Went to Arizona and they finished 8-8 in 2007 then didnt even start a game last year in Miami.
Mayb a 2nd teamer
August 7th, 2009 at 12:52 pm
Hey 16, long time no post. you done your homework for today? Just kidding. What do you think will be our strengths this year?
August 7th, 2009 at 12:55 pm
HYPOCRITE ALERT HYPOCRITE ALERT HYPOCRITE ALERT
RaiderRon Says:
If the Raiders had drafted Crabtree hed be in camp. Senile man would have given him the dough he wanted and hed be in camp. Al is actually usually good about signing picks overpaid or not.
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Ummm…wha?? You go from “senile man” to “Al is actually usually good about signing picks”…in two sentences.
If you were to tell the truth in your post, it would state that Al Davis has one of the best records in all of football, for bringing his players in on time…even during the “bad days” we’ve been through lately. “Usually good” is a gross understatement.
Thanks for the post, RR/troll…looking forward to your next contradiction!!
HYPOCRITE ALERT HYPOCRITE ALERT HYPOCRITE ALERT
August 7th, 2009 at 12:56 pm
I’m with on that Thec…
A beast DT, a beast MLB if Morrison has to be moved outside, and a beast RT and I’m happy.
Actually, I don’t even car about that…. First put a “W” down in 38 days then it’s on!
9-7!
53 MEN AND COUNTLESS FANS COMMITTED TO ONE PURPOSE!
DRINK UP NATION!
August 7th, 2009 at 12:56 pm
Yeah you guys,I know I been drunk on the Kool Aid 4 the last 7 training camp but this year there is
NO DENYING THE YOUNG PLAYERS BIG AL HAS BROUGHT IN!!!
CAN I GET A HELLLLLLLLLLL YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
August 7th, 2009 at 12:57 pm
Hey Haze RR, is Rockstars don’t get it twisted with that no good Powder Blue wearin Rob guy…
August 7th, 2009 at 12:58 pm
HEY HEY HEY 16 IS IN DA HOUSE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Great 2 C Ya Brother!!!!how you been!?!?!?!?!!?
August 7th, 2009 at 12:58 pm
HEEEEELLLLLLLLLLLLLL YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!
RAIDER ON 4EVA!
August 7th, 2009 at 12:59 pm
Sup ENGLANDRAIDER MAN-O-MAN ITS GREAT 2 C YA 2 !!!
August 7th, 2009 at 1:00 pm
=)
August 7th, 2009 at 1:00 pm
You guys take care gotta go.
The only NATION to every exist……….
RAIDER NATION
All others, are just imitation
August 7th, 2009 at 1:01 pm
LOL, peace Thec…
August 7th, 2009 at 1:01 pm
The way this training camp is starting it seems like we’ll be good at everthing if we can cut down on the effin penalties
August 7th, 2009 at 1:03 pm
C YA THEC
August 7th, 2009 at 1:03 pm
Wassup 4eva I been good me and my mom is goin 2 the raider nation celebration tommorow
August 7th, 2009 at 1:04 pm
Here’s an interesting question to ponder…
If DHB AND Murphy really are what we think they are…and JLH and Jon Holland are coming into their own…and we have a couple of other young guys flashing some real talent. We have so many young WR’s on the cusp, and nowhere to stash them all…
…would it behoove us to ponder a trade of one (or two) of our young WR’s to the desperate-for-WR-help Atlanta Falcons? What could they possibly have in ATL that might interest the Raiders?
Methinks the phone line should be warm, at least…
August 7th, 2009 at 1:04 pm
Yep Kelly is very jumpy,maybe he’s chomping at da bit
August 7th, 2009 at 1:05 pm
NFL live, on BSPN going to hate on us again, in a few mins.
August 7th, 2009 at 1:05 pm
righr-da funk-on 16!!! Wish I was going with ya =)
August 7th, 2009 at 1:05 pm
AZ — RRS is for RaiderRockStar…I won’t confuse the two.
August 7th, 2009 at 1:07 pm
Peace Bro Raider on!!!!
“The way this training camp is starting it seems like we’ll be good at everthing if we can cut down on the effin penalties”
Amen 16yr!!! ” If you dont pick up the hammer then you never going to break the rock if you dont start on the ground floor you never going to reach the top”
August 7th, 2009 at 1:09 pm
Whats the timeline on Gallery?
August 7th, 2009 at 1:09 pm
actually i am pretty pumped about this year…
i think the offense is going to be very good…
but…
who’s gonna stop the run ???
August 7th, 2009 at 1:14 pm
Florida Pete Says:
August 7th, 2009 at 1:09 pm
actually i am pretty pumped about this year…
i think the offense is going to be very good…
but…
who’s gonna stop the run ???
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John Marshall and Tom Cables coaching mixed with a hint of “Mad Mike” running a muck in the backfield is the plan.
August 7th, 2009 at 1:15 pm
I’m glad they’re gonna open up the hitting more, but we don’t need any major injuries here. I’m hoping for the best.
August 7th, 2009 at 1:18 pm
HayesDaze37 Says:
August 7th, 2009 at 12:55 pm
HYPOCRITE ALERT HYPOCRITE ALERT HYPOCRITE ALERT
RaiderRon Says:
If the Raiders had drafted Crabtree hed be in camp. Senile man would have given him the dough he wanted and hed be in camp. Al is actually usually good about signing picks overpaid or not.
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heres the thing we all know i’m hung like a nat and that is the focus of my anger!!
Plus I love Mike Nolan and still wish he was here but untill we sign crabtree this is my sancuary burt keep in mind my p3nis is much much smaller than yours!!
August 7th, 2009 at 1:18 pm
For some reason I keep picturing MM walking around in the secondary muttering like Adam Sandler in Waterboy before he lays the smack down
August 7th, 2009 at 1:18 pm
Dazed,
The Niners are under no pressure right now to “pony up”, as you put it. The entire press is on their side. ESPN, all day today, has been mocking Crabtree having his cousin threaten the Niners. The sports press always sides with ownership, even in the Raiders’ case (see ‘07 negotiations with J. Russell), and Crabtree is slowly becoming the NFL’s new persona non grata, which would kill his draft status in ‘10. He likely wouldn’t even go in the first round. He’s going to sign, and the Niners are going to wind up getting a number 7 pick at a bargain 10th pick price, thanks to your nut job, “Mr. Davis”.
As far as your point about me reaching for something negative…I don’t think I have to reach far considering we’ve just completed our 6th straight season with no more than 5 wins, and still have the same general manager. Such a grim situation is beyond complaints or negativity, as you put it. It’s an ongoing catastrophe that will not cease until Al Davis retires. Spare me the pre season optimism. Square one is getting to the 6 win mark. Heck, I’d even be willing to give Al the benefit of the doubt if we could just win 3 stinking games straight, something we haven’t accomplished, btw, since we had that “old” team that Allen and Gruden built.
“So far, Al’s off-season has been about as well-orchestrated, and looks as promising, as any GM’s in the league.”
Only in the eyes of his loyalists, who’ve said the same thing the previous 6 pre seasons.
August 7th, 2009 at 1:20 pm
I wish they would’ve waited till tommorrow to finish tackles in practice
August 7th, 2009 at 1:20 pm
HEY 4EVA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You’re looking good!!!!!!!!
How’s it brewing?!!!!!!!!! Pour me one!!!!!!!!!
Things here in England are great if you don’t count the weather!
Where’s our friend from Denmark? I need a Carlsberg?!!!!!!!!!
August 7th, 2009 at 1:21 pm
thats a good one Headbutt =)
August 7th, 2009 at 1:21 pm
HEYA Pete how goes the south???
Hey MR I see yu and your back door buddy rambleonRon are at it again dnt you ever get tired of that smell on yer fingers???????????
PLAYOFFBOUND!!!!!
August 7th, 2009 at 1:22 pm
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August 7th, 2009 at 1:23 pm
Florida Pete Says:
August 7th, 2009 at 1:09 pm
actually i am pretty pumped about this year…
i think the offense is going to be very good…
but…
who’s gonna stop the run ???
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JaMarcus will play as 2 gap tackle on run downs.
August 7th, 2009 at 1:24 pm
I love Alex smith…keep in mind tho I have a very inferior shaft to all of you……..Does anyone remember Dilfer..ohhh how he could manage me…errr I mean the team!!!
August 7th, 2009 at 1:24 pm
Good read:
“…Every club searches for that perfect mix of strenuous practices to fortify bodies for the long grind. But there’s no elixir or formula and many of these injuries are total flukes; there’s no way to predict how or when someone will pop an Achilles merely backpeddling on a non-contact punt return drills, or how much damage a few blades of wet grass can inflict on a season.
Still, spanning around the league yesterday there were teams already almost wiped out at certain positions.
The Eagles offensive line was without Stacy Andrews and Shawn Andrews. The Ravens were without two of their top three receivers — Mark Clayton and Demetrius Williams. The Falcons had to sign two free agent receivers off the street.
Some teams that seemed to be avoiding the rut of injuries, like Cleveland (all healthy bodies when I was there Wednesday), began to see the injury list grow Thursday. Check out the Detroit Lions list of missing players from Thursday: TE Brandon Pettigrew (a first-round pick), S Louis Delmas (first pick of the second round), DT Grady Jackson, TE Grady Fitzsimmons, S Daniel Bullocks, RB Maurice Morris, CB Keith Smith and LB Jordon Dizon. Yikes.
The Packers likely lost TE Tory Humphrey for the season, and their top pick, LB Clay Matthews, injured the hamstring that plagued him through the offseason; never a good sign. In Washington, team management is very high on second-year WR Devin Thomas, who had a strong offseason after a lost rookie campaign. But Thomas has missed much of the week with a hamstring injury; a year ago a hammie injury put him way behind and he never recovered.
There’s just no way to know how quickly a body will heal, and how often someone will continue to aggravate the same injury. And look out, because once the games start in earnest next week, the lists will only grow. Starters won’t see the field much in those contests, but valuable rookies will be exposed to the pro game for the first time, and that brings plenty of bumps and bruises, and unfortunately, often worse, with it.”
(Jason La Canfora – NFL.com)
August 7th, 2009 at 1:28 pm
OMG, Dazed is talking about using our “talented”, “flashing”, “on the cusp” receivers as trade bait!!! Sure. I think a couple of teams in Canada are interested, Dazed. Oh, did I mention they were track and field teams?
August 7th, 2009 at 1:29 pm
HayesDaze37 Says:
August 7th, 2009 at 1:24 pm
Good read:
Thank you but is there any news on sf and there injuries..come on please my falice is much to small to look into tose types of things!! My nat like “parts” are small VERY small!
August 7th, 2009 at 1:30 pm
EGLANDRAIDER none here have heard from him.About 2 months ago he droped in and said Mearsk was laying-off and he was workind doubles,but still he would at least have said HEY by now you would think.
Looking pretty good yourself ENGLANDRAIDER =)
August 7th, 2009 at 1:30 pm
Hey MR I missed you old friend remember the ol bathub days heck no clothes just you ,me those goggles and that weird smelling snorkel man we had fun with that thing huh ol pal?????
August 7th, 2009 at 1:31 pm
thats great OAKlifer!!!
August 7th, 2009 at 1:31 pm
Hey Jerry!
Thanks for all those posts that I’m catching up on.
Jerry’s posts are the most optimistic that I’ve seen from him in some time.
The same can’t be said about ESPN or any of the other east-coast based “authorities”.
Since Jerry always says what he believes this is an encouraging sign.
Last year I picked us to win 9/7 or at least 8/8.
This year picking the same but thinking I’m wrong because of the great improvement this year————- NO EFFIN KIFFIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
August 7th, 2009 at 1:34 pm
Dazed, do tell us, what talent flashing receivers do you think we could use as trade bait, and what do you think we could get for them? I need a laugh today.
August 7th, 2009 at 1:34 pm
VERY SMALL! so small in fact……that ohhh oohh I just thought of something hey Maddenraider wouldnt it be cool to be a center….????? Just to have the security of the QB;s hands right on yer……well you know just like the bath days right ol pal??????
August 7th, 2009 at 1:36 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
The Niners are under no pressure right now to “pony up”, as you put it. The entire press is on their side. ESPN, all day today, has been mocking Crabtree having his cousin threaten the Niners.
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“The entire press is on their side.”
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
MR — You may have topped yourself with that one. Since when does it matter if the “entire press” is on anybody’s side? Ooooooohhhh, scary, that press. And the press is oh-so correct ALL the time, too! Brilliant argument.
And…of course, Crab better sign this year…his cousin/advisor is saying exactly what he’s been told to say, and his agent’s saying exactly what he’s supposed to say.
No way Crab sits out the year and gets top-10 money next year. But, that’s not much of a prediction to make — it’s just common sense…something Crabtree apparently lacks. Something you and he apparently have in common.
August 7th, 2009 at 1:38 pm
Almost that time fellas!!! Man this place gets creepy at about 1pm PST but oh well I geuss thats how it goes G@y marrige should not be allowed on blogs either!!!
But uhh To THE REAL NATION!!!!
RAIDER ON GENTS TILL NEXT AM (monday that is) PEACE!!1
Thanks for the love 4eva glad someone caught that!!!
PLAYOFFBOUND!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
August 7th, 2009 at 1:38 pm
What’s up, Oakglenn (Raider Ron). Undercover today, huh buddy? I’ll talk to you later when you start posting under Oakglenn. Probably in a few minutes.
August 7th, 2009 at 1:39 pm
tom “gorrilla face” jackson
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Friggin’ hilarious.
August 7th, 2009 at 1:40 pm
Oakglenn?!?!?!?
Listen MR,
Are you pretending not to know me in public again if so I will end this realationship you never repect me!!!
August 7th, 2009 at 1:42 pm
HEY LMN!!!!!!!!!
You out there?!
Probably studying up on history right? You’re probably still trying to figure out how come Britain whopped Denmark in the Napoleonic Wars?!!!
LMN! We took your fleet because we wanted it!
August 7th, 2009 at 1:43 pm
Dazed, if you don’t think the media has influence over a players’ draft value, you’re simply too dumb for this conversation. And it’s funny seeing a Davis worshiper like you insist that the media’s opinion doesn’t matter, when you spend about 90% of your time in here complaining that the media doesn’t give the Raiders’ enough credit. You know, enough credit for our talent flashing, on the cusp receivers that you think we should use as trade bait. BTW, you never answered my question. Who do you think we can get for some of this raw talent in our receiving corp? I’m still bracing myself for your answer. I’m going to laugh so hard it’ll hurt.
August 7th, 2009 at 1:44 pm
Alright, Oakglenn, keep up the act. I’ll talk to you later when you’re under your regular name. I’m not going to respond to the troll b.s.
August 7th, 2009 at 1:46 pm
NOOOOOOOOo Dont leave Oaklifer i was just warming up to your garbage about the raiders they will not be as good as me and madden raiders chargers/niners this year tho….you ever look into those deep blue eyes that phiilip rivers has…or those huge “calves” that Alex Smith carries man o man when will you be back buddy???
August 7th, 2009 at 1:47 pm
who is this Oakglenn guy yu speak of wait he is a guy isnt he thats wht this is all about isnt it your going to lose a good thing!!!!
August 7th, 2009 at 1:48 pm
4EVA:
Just saw that post. I hope the Dane’s job is ok.
August 7th, 2009 at 1:49 pm
I don’t think Oakglenn trolls MR. i could be wrong but , I don’t think that is him. He’da said whats up when he got here…
August 7th, 2009 at 1:49 pm
Well, Oakglenn, we now know that YOU “look into those deep blue eyes that Phillip Rivers has”, and those “huge calves that Alex Smith carries”. I didn’t even know the color of Rivers’ eyes. I don’t think I know the color of any NFL player’s eyes. You obviously do.
August 7th, 2009 at 1:50 pm
AZ Raider, I have my time tested method of spotting Oakglenn. Know what I’m saying???????????????????????
August 7th, 2009 at 1:51 pm
Crabtree is an idiot. I read a magazine article priot to the draft that told of Crabtree’s routine while he was injured. Consisted mostly of eating pizza and watching TV. It talked about all the pizza boxes lying around the room in his pad. I just remember thinking to myself – “This guy’s injured but…shouldn’t he be working out his upper body or at the very least, watching his diet?”
Glad we didn’t draft him. I actually wanted Monroe but hopefully AD found something in DHB.
August 7th, 2009 at 1:53 pm
Fire away MR….
August 7th, 2009 at 1:54 pm
Banana,
Crabtree was not passed over due to his work ethic. He was passed over for a fast receiver that Davis slobbered over. Crabtree is a number 7 pick, and the Niners are going to steal him for number 10 money. That’s the genius of Al Davis today.
August 7th, 2009 at 1:55 pm
AZ, you don’t get it yet???????? You don’t know how to spot Oakglenn’s trolls?????????????? Huh?????????????
???????????????????????????????????????????????
August 7th, 2009 at 1:56 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
Dazed, if you don’t think the media has influence over a players’ draft value, you’re simply too dumb for this conversation. And it’s funny seeing a Davis worshiper like you insist that the media’s opinion doesn’t matter, when you spend about 90% of your time in here complaining that the media doesn’t give the Raiders’ enough credit.
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Right, MR — The MEDIA is a make-or-break factor in a player’s draft value. Hahahahaha.
And…you’re full of sh#t, LIKE USUAL, regarding me spending 90% of my time here complaining about the media not giving the Raiders enough credit. When and if I have something like that to say…I would point it out in a factual manner…and not just throw out a hollow accusation (unlike you and yours).
I may have had ONE post this calendar year “complaining” about the press coverage of the Raiders. In actuality, YOU spend 90% of YOUR time in here looking foolish trying to protect your pathetic online image.
You, MR, can’t stand the fact that my loyalty and my level-headed thinking trumps your one-note-song of hatred at every turn.
You should change to one of your other personas now, MR, so you can at least have a cordial conversation with somebody who hasn’t yet figured you out.
August 7th, 2009 at 1:57 pm
I’m an East Coast life long Raider fan and it’s just feels good to find a site with other Silver & Black true fans. I’m tired of blogs where everyone trashes my team and their personnel moves. Hate to see Burgess leave especially to the ‘Evil Empire’ but getting some good picks is better than nothing. Stay true! Stay positive! Most of all stay ‘Committed To Excellence’ Love you Raider fans
August 7th, 2009 at 1:58 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
AZ Raider, I have my time tested method of spotting Oakglenn. Know what I’m saying???????????????????????
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He stares at his crotch.
August 7th, 2009 at 1:59 pm
MR, YOU HAVE TO BE KIDDING…. you don’t think character had anything to do with hisstock dropping? I mean the Raiders weren’t interested because he doesn’t fit the Raider mold, but all those other teams that could have grabbed him. His brash visit in Cleveland didn’t turn anyone else off?
Your right though, he’s not gonna get any more that #10 money from the 9ers. That is just a fact.
August 7th, 2009 at 2:01 pm
I called in to both KNBR last night and KHTK…and ripped on CrabDiva and the biased sports media in general around 6pm-6:15…..Damon Bruce didn’t like it…..good f**k him and KNBR!
I said the Raiders and their fans seem like the ones who get to cackle and laugh now about this CranDiva money non sense!
August 7th, 2009 at 2:01 pm
Hayes,
You have loyalty, thats for sure. But one thing you dont have is level headed thinking. As an example lets here your thoughts on how you think the Raider offense is going to fare thi coming season and why…..
August 7th, 2009 at 2:02 pm
Crabtree is a number 7 pick, and the Niners are going to steal him for number 10 money.
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Doesn’t look like he was the number 7 pick to me and it doesn’t look like the 9ers are signing him any time soon. The number 10 pick has a bad wheel and wants top 5 money what a steal.
August 7th, 2009 at 2:02 pm
I didnt like Crabs since they starting airing those road to the draft shows on NFLN. He looked like a goofball who couldnt speak english, not to mention he was hurt.
Im not surprised that he wasn’t picked by us, I think I came across mayb 1 mock draft that said we would take DHB.
August 7th, 2009 at 2:03 pm
007,
How long did Russell hold out for not 2 years ago?? Did you call in to KNBR then? No? Didnt think so.
August 7th, 2009 at 2:04 pm
Headbutt,
Crabtree dznt speak English?? What does Duhmarcus Russell speak then??
August 7th, 2009 at 2:05 pm
Dazed, your desperate attempt to undermine the media’s influence on a players’ value, be it draft or salary, to get a leg up in this argument is only serving to dig your hole even deeper. You didn’t have a lot of credibility as it was. Keep this up, and you’ll have absolutely none. The organization already has people who support the team no matter what, yet obviously know nothing about football. They’re called cheerleaders. I think I might have figured out your role in the organization. Maybe I should be nicer to you. You might be one of those hotties. But I’m sorry, babe, the media does in fact have a significant impact on a player’s value.
If you want to call your estimation that our receiving corp is talented enough to use as trade bait, “level headed thinking”, go right ahead. Everyone else would call it insanity. I’m still awaiting your answer as to who we could use as trade bait, and who we could get for them. I don’t blame you for holding back in fear of being laughed at, because that’s exactly what will happen. But you brought it up.
Dazed, or should I say, Jennifer? Get your pom poms and do what you’re good at, and let the real “level headed” people who aren’t riddled with denial discuss the state of this franchise from a football standpoint. OK, sweetheart?
August 7th, 2009 at 2:06 pm
WOW MR now ur trolling mr and accussing me of being Oaklgleen ok RaiderRob!!! Sheesh
by the way my peck..er is very smallish to small in size
August 7th, 2009 at 2:09 pm
Im not talking about him though. I never said I liked Russel did I?
Both of them held out and I didnt like it when Russel did that either.
Im not talking talent, just demeanor…You think him brushing his head like he was releived that we didn’t pick him helped him?
August 7th, 2009 at 2:09 pm
#86 LMAO!!!!
LMN is hunting down Crabtree 2C if he will make him a #25 Justin Fargas clothing apparel =)
August 7th, 2009 at 2:10 pm
# Raider Headbutt Says:
August 7th, 2009 at 1:18 pm
For some reason I keep picturing MM walking around in the secondary muttering like Adam Sandler in Waterboy before he lays the smack down
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Uh, I spewed my coffee out when I read that!!!
Thanks for the visual and wonderful laugh.
Go Raiders!
August 7th, 2009 at 2:10 pm
RaiderRon Says:
August 7th, 2009 at 2:03 pm
007,
How long did Russell hold out for not 2 years ago?? Did you call in to KNBR then? No? Didnt think so.
^^^^^^
Yeah I did! And said it didn’t really matter with Russell because he wasn’t going to start let alone play anyway that year…..no your favorite monopoly station has their own agenda and is not objective!
So, it looks like you don’t know what your talking about.
I’m Lester and when I call and I mostly call the Bruno show or Barby and Mr T and sometimes Hartman and Myers and the KHTK guys Grant and Lamb. I also call JT The Brick from time to time.
August 7th, 2009 at 2:10 pm
RaiderRon Says:
August 7th, 2009 at 2:03 pm
007,
How long did Russell hold out for not 2 years ago?? Did you call in to KNBR then? No? Didnt think so.
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A little different for a QB drafted #1 and WR drafted #10. What Crabtree is doing is like Russell asking for a GARANTEED spot in the HOF because he thinks he’s better than the QB’s that made it before he came into the league. He was the 1st over-all pick in the draft ya D.B. LOL. His dispute was over garanteed money, and the contract he got is perfect.
I dont see how you can compare.
August 7th, 2009 at 2:11 pm
Here, MR — I’ll make one of your beloved “predictions” (read: guesses) for you…
I predict the Niners will give Crabby a contract at least equal to somebody else’s who was picked in the top-10. If that happens, your theory of the Niners getting a discount is shot.
Anything other than Crab’s #10 money being slotted between #9 and #11 means you’ll be wrong about the Niners capitalizing on anything (unless it’s “worse” money than #11). But…you won’t acknowledge it, if it happens that way, will you? If I’m wrong, I know I’ll be OK with admitting I made a bad prediction (oh my…my hurt pride!).
Will you, MR, admit you were wrong if Crabtree gets as much or more money than picks #1-9?
What a silly question…we already ALL know the answer to that. Of course not!
August 7th, 2009 at 2:11 pm
AZ Raider, since when did Al Davis care about work ethic? This is an owner who’s stated on record that he believes great players will be great players. If he thought Crabtree was great, he wouldn’t care if he went through 2 pizzas a day while rehabing an injury. Al Davis puts no value on work ethic. Javon Walker come to mind? His salary? Get real, guys. Davis passed on Crabtree because he wanted DHB, for his speed, and there’s no other reason.
August 7th, 2009 at 2:13 pm
Russell has the right type of personality and makeup for a QB. He doesn’t get too high or low, remains even keeled, doesn’t panic when the pressure is on and doesn’t let fans or the stupid media get to him and doesn’t act like a jackass off the field.
August 7th, 2009 at 2:15 pm
Dazed, you’re on. I will admit I was wrong if the Niners give Crabtree as much as DHB is getting. I wouldn’t be surprised if they give him a little cherry on top that might give him what the 8th and 9th pick are getting. I never said that wouldn’t happen. What I did say is that they would be getting Crabtree at a discount, and they are, thanks to Al Davis. You need to hang it up, Jennifer. You lost this argument long ago.
August 7th, 2009 at 2:16 pm
AZ,
WTF are you talking about? That was pure incomprehensible lunacy. Russell held out for more money, Crabtree is holding out for more money. Yeah, big diff.
August 7th, 2009 at 2:17 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
August 7th, 2009 at 2:11 pm
AZ Raider, since when did Al Davis care about work ethic?
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I don’t recall starting this coversation or saying anything like that MR. And I don’t think there is anything wrong with Javon work ethic. What are you talking about?
August 7th, 2009 at 2:18 pm
Russell acts like that cuz he dont give a F. He got his $$ so what does he care??
August 7th, 2009 at 2:19 pm
Note to all readers:
There is one RaiderRon, whose name has no space in between Raider and Ron, who seems to be the real RaiderRon. There’s also a Raider Ron, note, with a space between the two names, who is without a doubt our good friend Oakglenn engaging in the very troll behavior he’s always denounced in here. Aside from the troll’s pov obviously mirroring that of Oakglenn’s, another way Oakglenn always gives himself away is with his overuse of question marks (i.e. ???????????????????). Just a heads up.
August 7th, 2009 at 2:20 pm
Got a 2:30 thing to be at.
It’s been fun!
MR…troll…all you other real fans (even critical ones!)…
Gotta look for KK now.
It’s a GREAT day to be a Raiders fan! Isn’t it?
Of course it is! Smile, MR — YOUR team the Raiders are on the way up!!
August 7th, 2009 at 2:20 pm
Damn your football IQ is low Ron…. It’s pointless to explain as you retain nothing. If there is no difference between the 1st and the 10th pick why isnt everyone in the top ten getting Mathew Stanfords contract?
Don’t answer, I won’t read it… You bore me with your non-sense.
August 7th, 2009 at 2:20 pm
Good job Hayes.
August 7th, 2009 at 2:21 pm
Did Russell hold out for more money? Yes or No.
August 7th, 2009 at 2:22 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
August 7th, 2009 at 2:19 pm
Note to all readers:
There is one RaiderRon, whose name has no space in between Raider and Ron, who seems to be the real RaiderRon. There’s also a Raider Ron, note, with a space between the two names, who is without a doubt our good friend Oakglenn engaging in the very troll behavior he’s always denounced in here. Aside from the troll’s pov obviously mirroring that of Oakglenn’s, another way Oakglenn always gives himself away is with his overuse of question marks (i.e. ???????????????????). Just a heads up.
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We all see the 2 Raider Rons MR and we all can give a sh*t about both their dumb azzes…
August 7th, 2009 at 2:22 pm
Dazed, it’s unfortunate you never found the courage to tell us which receivers we could use as trade bait, and who we could get for them. That would have made me smile, believe me.
August 7th, 2009 at 2:23 pm
Have blast HayesDaze37
August 7th, 2009 at 2:24 pm
Sorry, AZ, I didn’t know you spoke for everyone. You certainly don’t speak for me. And I doubt you speak for RaiderRon, who’s being trolled by your life partner Oakglenn right now. So I’ll continue to point it out, thank you.
August 7th, 2009 at 2:24 pm
The Big Bannana says Crabtree is an idiot.
I believe you’re right, although he might also end up being a great receiver.
Personally, I’m glad we passed.
He’s just another cancer in whatever team gets him.
The guy is a rookie but wants more money than great established players.
He’s not worht the trouble.
August 7th, 2009 at 2:25 pm
Anyone see NFL live today they finally gave raiders some love called them the surprise team of 09-10 season can you say 12-4 I can easily see that by sweeping the broncos and cheifs and winning one of the chargers games
August 7th, 2009 at 2:26 pm
MR
I don’t think Haze was thinking trade NOW, that would make no sense as their trade value would be less than thier original draft position. I think he was refering to how many young players that have shown promise at the WR position. After a year or 2 of developement these cheap players may have great value to another team.
August 7th, 2009 at 2:27 pm
Out of the top 3 Qbs taken in the draft this year who you guys think has the best year?
August 7th, 2009 at 2:27 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
August 7th, 2009 at 2:24 pm
Sorry, AZ, I didn’t know you spoke for everyone. You certainly don’t speak for me. And I doubt you speak for RaiderRon, who’s being trolled by your life partner Oakglenn right now. So I’ll continue to point it out, thank you.
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Now you know…
August 7th, 2009 at 2:27 pm
AZ,
You freakn coward. Yes or no. Did Russell hold out?
August 7th, 2009 at 2:28 pm
Raider Headbutt Says:
August 7th, 2009 at 2:27 pm
Out of the top 3 Qbs taken in the draft this year who you guys think has the best year?
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Sanchez.
August 7th, 2009 at 2:29 pm
Lets debate tough guy. Your the biggest clown on this site.
August 7th, 2009 at 2:29 pm
EnglandRaider, tell yourself whatever you want to. But Al Davis did not pass on Crabtree for being any kind of “cancer”. He passed on him because he wanted DHB. You guys are making asses out of yourselves trying to downplay Crabtree’s work ethic, as if Al Davis has ever cared about work ethic. This is the guy who signed Javon Walker to a huge contract, who butted head with Shanahan in Denver because he was a lazy bum. Al rewarded him.
AZ Raider, Dazed can speak for herself. I know she’s a cheerleader and doesn’t know what she’s talking about, but she was the one who said that we could use our receivers as trade bait. Let her explain. You think you’re scoring points with her, dude? Ha ha. Try getting an ivy league degree and a six figure salary, and maybe she’ll meet you for lunch.
August 7th, 2009 at 2:30 pm
AZ says Sanchez even though he probably has never seen him play.
August 7th, 2009 at 2:30 pm
I actually need to keep an eye on the Jets this year because my boy I went to school with signed with them, I was reading that Ryan really likes him so I wanna see him get in the scrum.
August 7th, 2009 at 2:30 pm
In the first game Fargas will probably be starting.
He’ll take that position because out of the great backs we have, he’s the best blocking back.
I don’t agree with people who want to dump Fargas. This guy was born a Raider and we need all three: Fargas/Bush/McFadden.
Cable needs to alternate Fargas and Bush and stop running McFadden down the middle the guy’s too small.
It looks like Cable going to play him outside and that’s a good thing.
August 7th, 2009 at 2:31 pm
If Crabtree ran a 4.3 at the combine he would be in Napa at this very moment. Period, end.
August 7th, 2009 at 2:32 pm
I would like to see more teams make them run 40’s with equip on after a workout to see what they can do.
anyways im out guy. EZ
August 7th, 2009 at 2:33 pm
I’ll be late because of this, but it’s worth it!!
HYPOCRITE ALERT HYPOCRITE ALERT HYPOCRITE ALERT
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
Dazed, you’re on. I will admit I was wrong if the Niners give Crabtree as much as DHB is getting. I wouldn’t be surprised if they give him a little cherry on top that might give him what the 8th and 9th pick are getting. I never said that wouldn’t happen.
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WTF??? Changing the “rules” so you can APPEAR to be right? You wouldn’t do that, would you, MR?? I never said as much as DHB was getting.
Once again MR…this time DON”T CHANGE THE CHALLENGE TO COVER YOUR A$$…
Either Crabtree gets a contract equal-or-better-to #1-9 of the draft, or he doesn’t. Whether the Niners give him “a little cherry on top” makes it sound so quaint…and makes it sound like you wouldn’t be wrong, if they did that.
IF CRABTREE GETS MONEY EQUAL TO ANYBODY PICKED #1-9…
YOU, MR, WILL BE WRONG ABOUT YOUR “DISCOUNT” THEORY.
But, you’ll change the “bet” to hedge yours, won’t you? Yeah, like usual.
Later!
HYPOCRITE ALERT HYPOCRITE ALERT HYPOCRITE ALERT
August 7th, 2009 at 2:33 pm
Raiderron jamarcus russell is different because he was the number 1 pick and wanted to get paid like a number 1 pick it was al’s fault for not signing him before the draft crabtree was the number 10 pick and wants to be paid more than the number 7 pick completly different
August 7th, 2009 at 2:35 pm
16,
How the hell do you know what Crabtree wants??
August 7th, 2009 at 2:37 pm
Mr
You may well be right about why Al picked DHB.
That doesn’t mean that Craptree isn’t a cancer on the team he plays. Anyone remember Jeff Leonard of the Giants? Will Clark does.
It looks to me like DHB is going to be a real asset-even this year as a rookie.
We haven’t had anyone streak down that left side like that since Cliff Branch-which of course is what Al is hoping for.
I’ll say this: It almost doesn’t matter whether he catches the ball or not. When he takes off he just opens it up for other receivers.
August 7th, 2009 at 2:39 pm
I know what crabtree wants because his effin advisor/cousin/dumbass said so on national tv
August 7th, 2009 at 2:42 pm
16-year-old fan kickin’ Ron’s A$$!!! You go, kid!
Now that was REALLY worth being late for. Good thing I’m the boss!!
Raider on…!
August 7th, 2009 at 2:45 pm
RaiderRon Says:
August 7th, 2009 at 2:29 pm
Lets debate tough guy. Your the biggest clown on this site.
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Tough guy… Ron if you were sitting in the same room with me, you wouldn’t talk the head you do. Who’s the INTERNET TOUGH GUY? You… You’d be waking up right about now from 5 min ago after calling me a coward.
Ok, I’ll debate with you…
No, Russell didn’t hold out. Al’s stuborn azz wouldn’t sign him. He should have started negotiations before the draft like the Dolphins with Long and the Lions with Stafford. Russell got the contract he should have gotten.
August 7th, 2009 at 2:46 pm
lololololololol
August 7th, 2009 at 2:48 pm
Was Russell in camp on time coward? No. Then he was a hold out. Crabtree isnt in camp so he is a hold out. There, real simple for you coward. They are both HOLDOUTS.
August 7th, 2009 at 2:48 pm
Ron do you have anything else to say or did u leave because your argument made no sense
August 7th, 2009 at 2:49 pm
16,
Your right, his cousin is an idiot, but hes not Crabtrees agent so what he says dznt hold water.
August 7th, 2009 at 2:50 pm
Hey Scottish Raider/Tollworth Raider/Centurion Raider and anyone else in the UK:
What do you think about that ESPN/NASN fiasco?!
The dummies actually wanted to drop the channel in the UK!
It just proves ESPN can easily be stupid on two continents.
August 7th, 2009 at 2:50 pm
Lets try this again…. Russell wasnt in camp on time=HOLDOUT Crabtree not in camp= HOLDOUT
Russell and Crabtree= HOLDOUT. Thank YOU!!
August 7th, 2009 at 2:51 pm
OK, OK,OK, OK, OK!!!! Enough, already!
Celebrity Death Match: JaMarcus Russell’s agent vs. Michael Crabtree’s cousin.
(Loser has to go work in the Detroit Lions ticket office)
August 7th, 2009 at 2:53 pm
It just proves ESPN can easily be stupid on two continents.
LMMFAO!!!
August 7th, 2009 at 2:55 pm
Ok so explain again how you are comparing a QB drafted #1 and a WR drafted #10…
Did I say “again”, that’s right there is no debate there so you said squat about it. There is no comparison, your points are non-existant and your damn lucky this is a chat room sir…
Now, since your football IQ hasn’t gone up since the last time I responded to you, do not expect another one from me.
i will say this:
True, both were “Holdouts” good job paying attention to the definition of a hold-out. Besides that, I can’t see any intellegence in your posts.
YOU, my friend are the biggest clown in here… Even MR has some good points every now and again in between all his negative ramblings, but you are just an idiot.
August 7th, 2009 at 2:55 pm
Ron their reassons for holding out are completly different for 1 jamarcus russell was the 1st pick in the draft so al should have signed him before the draft like most of the 1st picks before him and both of the 1st picks after him he just wanted to be paid like the 1st pick of the draft and a quarteback crabtree wants to be paid more than dhb because he feels like he is better than him so.there is a big difference jamarcus wanted to be paid what his spot dictated crabtreee wants to be paid what he THINKS his talent dictates
August 7th, 2009 at 2:58 pm
When did I “compare” them? Said they were both holdouts. Period. Dznt matter why or when they were drafted. Nice try coward.
August 7th, 2009 at 2:59 pm
Now I have heard everything. Bob Ryan on ESPN just blamed Al Davis for Craptree’s holdout. Said it was a bogus pick taking DHB @ 7 and blames the Raiders for Craptree wanting more money than DHB got since he was rated higher than DHB.
Craptree has no idea how the NFL works does he. I’ll admit that I wanted Craptree before the draft and was disappointed when we took DHB but hindsite is 20/20 and I’m SOOO glad we took DHB!
August 7th, 2009 at 3:00 pm
forget it 16, he doesnt understand…. He’s bashing away at his keyboard trying to think of nasty things to say about the AZ KOOL-AID PIMP right now LOL!
9-7!
JAVON WALKER COMEBACK PLAYER OF THE YEAR!
53 MEN AND COUTLESS FANS COMMITTED TO ONE PURPOSE!
DRINK UP NATION!
August 7th, 2009 at 3:00 pm
Ron when you’re talking about 1 guy (crabtree) then bring up another guy (russell) I think that’s the defenition of comparing
August 7th, 2009 at 3:00 pm
Damn,Raider O must’ve had a BLOW-OUT B-Day cause he still hasnt showed up
August 7th, 2009 at 3:01 pm
Jay Richardson’s entire comment about, new Defenisive Coordinator John Marshall—-via sacbee.
“Sure, this is Al’s defense.” Referring to owner Al Davis. “It’s the same deal and we love it. And I love what Coach brings to the table. I love his attitude, that he doesn’t want us to change everything we’re doing, but he wants us to do things the right way.”
“He’s really detailed-specific and detail-orientated, and I think thats imporntant. Beacause last year there was a lot of gray area on our defense.”
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Time will tell. Coach ‘em up.
August 7th, 2009 at 3:03 pm
16yearsold16yearfan Says:
August 7th, 2009 at 3:00 pm
Ron when you’re talking about 1 guy (crabtree) then bring up another guy (russell) I think that’s the defenition of comparing
LMMFAO again!!! Hello Ron anyone home god I’m still cracking up !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
August 7th, 2009 at 3:04 pm
Sweet – Brian is back as one of his alter egos 16 year old fan. Welcome, back Brian.
What I can’t believe is ol Krappy hasn’t shown up to the blog yet. That old goat must’ve laid a historic, world record sized dump in those crusty drawers that knocked him out for the afternoon.
I can see him right now, spread out in a lawn chair in his backyard while KrappyWife sprays him down with the garden hose.
August 7th, 2009 at 3:04 pm
Mid-West Fan:
You’re not my brother-in-law in Minnesota are you?
The real bogus pick that Al Davis made was picking Rob Ryan.
August 7th, 2009 at 3:06 pm
What’s up, Raider Nation. I’ve been reading the blogs for awhile and finally decided to join in. Lots of good posts here.
August 7th, 2009 at 3:07 pm
Beeecham your a dumbass y do u even come here and how do u think im brien
August 7th, 2009 at 3:07 pm
Welcome King! What say you?
August 7th, 2009 at 3:10 pm
I can say that this is the most excited I have been for the season to start in a looooooong time. Lots of young talent.
August 7th, 2009 at 3:11 pm
hear hear!!!
August 7th, 2009 at 3:13 pm
The O-Line and D-Line are what concern me though.
August 7th, 2009 at 3:15 pm
Russell is definitely laid back.
That’s not a bad thing in a quarterback-inconsistency is a bad thing. One day in pre-season Russell’s good and the next he’s not good.
We never had a more laid back quarterback than Snake.
Admittedly he had a great OL, but that guy would stand there, and stand there, and stand there waiting for an open receiver.
Is Russell a Kenny Stabler or a Jeff George?
We don’t know yet.
Let’s bring in Snake to teach him how to really enjoy himself when he’s he’s in the middle of people who want to kill him.
August 7th, 2009 at 3:17 pm
4eva,
I think I found my Guitar!
Epiphone Humminbird.
It’s listed at $349 from the orig $582, but I’m trying to get it for 250-$290.
I like It a lot!
August 7th, 2009 at 3:19 pm
Ok, 16 year old fan – convince me that you’re also not Brian. So far you both share many common traits –
1) Poor penmanship
2) Low IQ
3) A slender, feminine build
4) Lame observations
If you’re not actually Brian, prove it to me. Let’s see if you can actually put together a solid argument.
August 7th, 2009 at 3:20 pm
4eva,
And I want a FREE Case!!!!
lol
And a book to teach me how to play, For FREE too!!!
August 7th, 2009 at 3:21 pm
Raider King Says:
August 7th, 2009 at 3:13 pm
The O-Line and D-Line are what concern me though.
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Left side is locked up and I’m happy with it. RG position has potential and Center is up in the air. We need a stud RT for sure and at DT. couple more drafts and we’ll have it under wraps IMO.
August 7th, 2009 at 3:21 pm
Midwest Fan Says:
August 7th, 2009 at 2:59 pm
Now I have heard everything. Bob Ryan on ESPN just blamed Al Davis for Craptree’s holdout. Said it was a bogus pick taking DHB @ 7 and blames the Raiders for Craptree wanting more money than DHB got since he was rated higher than DHB.
Craptree has no idea how the NFL works does he. I’ll admit that I wanted Craptree before the draft and was disappointed when we took DHB but hindsite is 20/20 and I’m SOOO glad we took DHB!
^^^^^^^Proves once again how stupid and biased the national sports media is! Especially BSPN!
August 7th, 2009 at 3:22 pm
909 – Based on your full quotes..I can see that Jerry McD is a supreme instigator! Taken in full JRich’s comments didn’t sound nearly as harsh compared to Jerry post of it!
Com’on media – be RESPONSIBLE will ya!
August 7th, 2009 at 3:24 pm
Lord, Al was born a gambling man……….do a loooo
Tryin’ to make a living and doing the best he can
When it’s time to leave us, he hopes we’ll understand
Al was born a gambling man.
My father was a niner fan in Hayward
He wound up on the wrong side of the Bay
I was born in a truck on ole Snake’s birthday
Rollin’ down highway 63.
August 7th, 2009 at 3:24 pm
4eva,
Epiphone is made by Gibson.
August 7th, 2009 at 3:26 pm
I agree with that, the left side is solid and hopefully the C position as well. I’m not comfortable with Green playing RT though. I hope Pears can beat him out.
August 7th, 2009 at 3:28 pm
Beecham how do you know what I look like? How was my observation of crabtrees holdout “lame”? I don’t feel like writing everything out fully with all the correct punctuaton I am not in school right now. How do you know what my iq is? I am 16 and I am in pre calculus and all honors classes. How can you say someone has a low iq when all you do in here is make fun of koolkell a man you have never met. Enjoy this because it is the last time I will respond to your nonsense.
August 7th, 2009 at 3:31 pm
16,
Good for you sir, and I enjoy reading you posts.
I’m still waiting for the new madden 10 update!
August 7th, 2009 at 3:34 pm
Atta boy 16…
RAIDER ON KIDO!
August 7th, 2009 at 3:34 pm
Jerrymcd Herm Edwards: `The Nation is back!’ Predicts 8-8. Translation _ Herm would love to be the next coach of the Raiders.
12 minutes ago from TweetDeck
(Herm Edwards doesn’t want to coach the Raiders, he just wants to be a Head Coach somewhere…anywhere because nobody else wants him because hes a TERRIBLE coach.)
August 7th, 2009 at 3:35 pm
Raider O yea I took my madden 09 to gamestop and I want to get 10 but I don’t think ill be able to got too much other stuff to do b4 I can buy a video game but I’d probably get fight night before madden anyway
August 7th, 2009 at 3:36 pm
King, I can say this:
I’M FYCKING PUMPED UP FOR SEPTEMBER BRO!
9-7!
JAVON WALKER COMBACAK PLAYER OF THE YEAR!
Ya’ll have said it before and you can say it again! “I heard it from AZ first”!
53 MEN AND COUTLESS FANS COMMITTED TO ONE PURPOSE!
DRINK UP NATION!
August 7th, 2009 at 3:36 pm
Hilarious. Good to see that MaddenRaider, Kookie and Missedabrain all think I am lurking under every rock. The truth is I have not been here since early this am. Sorry that I broke all of your brains. And as for Dud, I fritzed that guy’s gourd so badly, he went deranged Nam vet on me and started calling me a slant eyed gook. He must be in some Veterans Hospital somewhere thinking he is stationed in Danang. Man I love this.
August 7th, 2009 at 3:37 pm
thats great Raider O.Gibson used 2 make hummingbirds I believe,and now Gibson own Epiphones so its a good guitar.Did you try nylon or steel strings???
August 7th, 2009 at 3:38 pm
beecham…
16yr is legit.
August 7th, 2009 at 3:39 pm
Now, as for the important stuff, Raiders to address tackling. Raiders to address tackling. Raiders to address tackling. Sorry I had to say that three times just to let it sink in. Hell YES the Raiders BETTER address their tackling!! And while they’re at it, why not work on blocking as well?? Blocking AND tackling. Isn’t that the first freaking thing you learn playing Pop Warner??
August 7th, 2009 at 3:40 pm
Which one of you guys has a Gibson Hummingbird?? Damn nice instrument.
August 7th, 2009 at 3:42 pm
BBL NATION
August 7th, 2009 at 3:43 pm
16, let me get this straight – you aren’t going to use correct punctuation because you’re not in school right now?
That is a very immature attitude, young man. How do you ever expect to pass pre calculus if you won’t put in the work outside of the classroom?
And telling me to enjoy your post is totally something Brian would say. He loves it when I comment on all the lame things he would say, like your recent post on the Crabtree holdout. You guys are obviously the same person. I knew it.
And thanks for reminding me about Krappy!
That old fool is probably drinking his oatmeal through a straw right now and getting ready to unleash another behemoth in his drawers. That is if he doesn’t defrost his head in the microwave first.
August 7th, 2009 at 3:44 pm
I’m not quite ready to annoint walker as comeback player of the year. With him it’s show me first. I was really stoaked when we got murphy. Going into the draft I thought he had good height, speed, and hands. Wasn’t sure about coming out of the spread offense but thought he was a playmaker for sure.
Anyone know about this undrafted receiver that Russell’s high on. I think we have a lot of potential in our WR core for the first time. Yes, I am taking into consideration some of our receivers that have been in the fold but haven’t exactly produced on this level YET. Now I want to see it from them on the field, from Russell too!
August 7th, 2009 at 3:45 pm
Oakglenn Says:
August 7th, 2009 at 3:36 pm
Hilarious. Good to see that MaddenRaider, Kookie and Missedabrain all think I am lurking under every rock. The truth is I have not been here since early this am. Sorry that I broke all of your brains. And as for Dud, I fritzed that guy’s gourd so badly, he went deranged Nam vet on me and started calling me a slant eyed gook. He must be in some Veterans Hospital somewhere thinking he is stationed in Danang. Man I love this.
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I’d tried to rep you while you were gone Glenn. I hope your not trolling cause I was sayin you wouldn’t troll around here… Anyhew, they got tired of not having a point and seem to have left…
August 7th, 2009 at 3:45 pm
For those of you who wanted to draft glenn dorsey last year read em and weep…….
http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/playerbreakingnews.asp?sport=NFL&id=5317&line=147302&spln=1
August 7th, 2009 at 3:47 pm
Midwest Fan Says:
August 7th, 2009 at 3:44 pm
I’m not quite ready to annoint walker as comeback player of the year. With him it’s show me first.
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I know Midwest, I’m just serving up my usual kool-aid for the day. All my posts are based on optimism. I’m a die-hard, and believe that good vibes make good results, so I stay as positive as possible, and sometimes beyond.
RAIDER ON!
August 7th, 2009 at 3:50 pm
first time in awhile (wr’s)
August 7th, 2009 at 3:51 pm
909, trust me, I’d love to proven wrong on this one. But 16 year old dude and Brian construct their sentences and thoughts almost identically.
If you brought in an writing expert analyst from the FBI I’m sure he’d come to the same conclusion.
Listen, I hate picking on high school kids (Charged Down being the exception), so if you can give me proof I’d be a happier man than you can imagine.
August 7th, 2009 at 3:51 pm
# AZ Raider Says:
August 7th, 2009 at 3:45 pm
Oakglenn Says:
August 7th, 2009 at 3:36 pm
Hilarious. Good to see that MaddenRaider, Kookie and Missedabrain all think I am lurking under every rock. The truth is I have not been here since early this am. Sorry that I broke all of your brains. And as for Dud, I fritzed that guy’s gourd so badly, he went deranged Nam vet on me and started calling me a slant eyed gook. He must be in some Veterans Hospital somewhere thinking he is stationed in Danang. Man I love this.
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I’d tried to rep you while you were gone Glenn. I hope your not trolling cause I was sayin you wouldn’t troll around here… Anyhew, they got tired of not having a point and seem to have left…
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Thanks AZ. Kookie was trying to say I am Beecham. I’m not. MR was saying I was someone else. I’m not. Dud thought I was a slant eyed gook. I’m not. Sucks to be them I guess but thank you for sticking up for me.
August 7th, 2009 at 3:52 pm
Say Beecham you’re not me are you??
August 7th, 2009 at 3:54 pm
I realize AZ, I’ve been reading most of the posts over the course of the day at work. At home now and can post. Imagine that, I’m getting excited about reading about the Raiders and DHB at work than come home and listen to that bas… Ryan critize DHB & Al Davis in that manner.
Had to log in and vent. Should be used to it by now. Especially with all my friends that are Bears fans talking about the superbowl now that they have Cutler.
August 7th, 2009 at 3:56 pm
4eva,
It has steel strings, but I can buy nylon.
August 7th, 2009 at 3:57 pm
Cutler…. What a douche McDaniels is LOL. Before we drafted Russell I’da given a left one for Cutler. The Bears got a deal and Dever got the shaft LOL. Works out good for us!
August 7th, 2009 at 3:59 pm
Raider O Says:
August 7th, 2009 at 3:56 pm
4eva,
It has steel strings, but I can buy nylon.
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Don’t put nylons on your steel string O. String tension in important in mantaining your new instrument my friend. Vice versa too.
Congrats though….
August 7th, 2009 at 4:00 pm
Why AZ?
The neck will warp over time O
August 7th, 2009 at 4:01 pm
Can you guys believe there’s football on TV this weekend and the Raiders next Thursday? I hope we’re good this year because theres nothing worse than getting excited and then watching the TV in disbelief on how poor the Raiders have played.
August 7th, 2009 at 4:02 pm
Did Raider O buy a Gibson Hummingbird??
August 7th, 2009 at 4:05 pm
For crying out loud, Oakglenn – it’s Krappy we’re talking about here!
The same guy who’s head has logged more minutes in his microwave than a Lean Cuisine. The same guy who fills 4 adult diapers with poop every day – unintentionally. The same guy doesn’t notice his pants have fallen around his ankles at social functions.
If you’re going to get worked up over his wacky blog identity delusions, there’s someone named Brian I’d like to introduce to you …
August 7th, 2009 at 4:05 pm
Is Madden 2010 any different than the previous versions? I’m not sure I even care to buy the new one. Ever since the voice went to Cris Collinsworth and I realized EA Sports didn’t change much regarding the game, it just isn’t worth it anymore. They just update the rosters and sell last years game every year. Nothing drastic is changed except that passing the ball gets harder and harder.
August 7th, 2009 at 4:09 pm
beecham….
Just going by the kids body of work. He is who he is, and that is good enough for me.
Go back 3 or 4 months and look it up, if YOU need proof.
August 7th, 2009 at 4:10 pm
63.
Captain Insano shows no mercy!
August 7th, 2009 at 4:11 pm
24,
The game has progressed a lot on the Next Gen systems since it first came out. If you are a casual player it’s not worth buying the new version every year though.
August 7th, 2009 at 4:11 pm
No Garcia again today. This dude’s a clown. He just assumes he’s making the team without doing crap. Cut him, and keep Frye.
August 7th, 2009 at 4:12 pm
Oakglenn/Beecham = Sociopathic
Personality Disorder. It describes you perfectly. So much personal venom.
http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/antisocial-personality-disorder/DS00829
August 7th, 2009 at 4:12 pm
24 Says:
August 7th, 2009 at 4:05 pm
Is Madden 2010 any different than the previous versions? I’m not sure I even care to buy the new one. Ever since the voice went to Cris Collinsworth and I realized EA Sports didn’t change much regarding the game, it just isn’t worth it anymore. They just update the rosters and sell last years game every year. Nothing drastic is changed except that passing the ball gets harder and harder.
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It’s all about the rosters for me 24. I always play to the roster. even in 09 I take out Curry, Lelie, Gabril Wilson, and now Burgess. if they aint REALLY on the roster, they get no love from AZ on Madden… Just keepin it real.
The graphics get better every year and there is usually a few tweaks, but gameplay should be identical almost.
August 7th, 2009 at 4:13 pm
I’ve played the madden 10 demo and its way different than the previous games the really slowed it dow so that you have more than 2 seconds to throw the ball and the oline actually makes a pocket the game is very different and imo its better you should buy it
August 7th, 2009 at 4:14 pm
Oakglenn/Beecham = Sociopathic
Personality Disorder. It describes you perfectly. So much personal venom.
http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/antisocial-personality-disorder/DS00829
Note the consistent “glib” name-calling.
August 7th, 2009 at 4:16 pm
What’s wrong with the comments it keeps saying im posting too quickly
August 7th, 2009 at 4:18 pm
just hit refresh 16… It’s happening to everyone.
August 7th, 2009 at 4:19 pm
Oakglenn
Before registration you were know as “King of the Trolls”
Brien the General, swore fealty to you.
http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/antisocial-personality-disorder/DS00829
August 7th, 2009 at 4:25 pm
24…
Always up for the first look at the team. I’m trying very hard to keep my expectations in check, until the MNF opener. Still have nightmares from last year vs. the Donks….lol
ice COLD beer time…..later.
August 7th, 2009 at 4:25 pm
16
You’re a smart kid. regarding Beecham, do you know what the word psychopath means?
August 7th, 2009 at 4:28 pm
909 – No doubt. Guiness!
August 7th, 2009 at 4:35 pm
Oh man. Krappy sure is on fire today. Old goat, what has gotten into you besides a large amount of medication and luke warm oatmeal?
All of your deranged conspiracy theories should be reason enough to finally move into that nursing home we’re always talking about.
A calm, soothing place where you can get the medical attention you deserve. All-you-can-eat jello. A reporter position on the community newsletter. A bedpan under every bed.
And please, on the small chance the 16 year dude really is a 16 year old dude and not Brain, leave the poor kid alone. Doesn’t he have enough to deal with in adolescence without a creepy old dog like yourself trying to corrupt his innocence?
August 7th, 2009 at 4:36 pm
Beecham
You a bed wetter?
August 7th, 2009 at 4:37 pm
Hey Oakglenn:
Forget Da Nang, Quontset huts and worse.
Two guys meet on a riverbank to go fishing.
One says, “Haven’t seen you in awhile”.
Other guy says, “Oh, I got married”.
First guy says, “Yeah? Is she good looking?”
Guy says, “No she’s ugly, can’t cook, and is bad
in bed”.
First guy says, “Then why’d you marry her?!”
Guy says, “She’s got worms”.
August 7th, 2009 at 4:39 pm
They’re putting Dorsey at DE?!>!>!>~!!? WTF
The draft is a major crap shoot. We seemed to get it right lately. But no team should be forced to shell out this much doe for an unknown commodity.
August 7th, 2009 at 4:40 pm
# KoolKell Says:
August 7th, 2009 at 4:12 pm
Oakglenn/Beecham = Sociopathic
Personality Disorder. It describes you perfectly. So much personal venom.
http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/antisocial-personality-disorder/DS00829
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You know Kookie, there was an article in the SF chronicle a couple of days ago about how anonymous posters are actually posting about themselves. Personally, I was out all day today socializing, I am leaving right now to go socialize in one of my favorite establishments for hours with lots of friends, I am attending a party tomorrow with 200 people 3 bands and four kegs, where I will be invited to other nice gatherings. You, on the other hand, are not liked by many posters in here, are constantly accusing others, wrongly accuse me of being someone else, and now you are accusing me of being anti-social while you sit by yourself alone, behind your computer screen. I mock you to your ugly face. Get a life you anti-social Hypocrite.
August 7th, 2009 at 4:42 pm
Dorsey might actually be a decent DE for them. If he is decent at all.
August 7th, 2009 at 4:42 pm
Sure Oakglenn/Beecham, psycho. lol.
August 7th, 2009 at 4:44 pm
some of the poster wanted dorsey, when the lid from Usc was clearly better.
August 7th, 2009 at 4:45 pm
Oakglenn Says:
August 7th, 2009 at 4:40 pm
You, on the other hand, are not liked by many posters in here,
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Who are you speaking for now?
Why don’t you speak for yourself.
August 7th, 2009 at 4:45 pm
Oak, ?u think he could play DE?
August 7th, 2009 at 4:48 pm
DE, Oakglenn? I never even imagined it. Wow. Thats sure as heck wasn’t what he was drafted for, but maybe like you say. We’ll get a taste of it this season if he’s not sittin’ the bench.
Anyway, the tweets of practice today really suck. Not much detail at all.
August 7th, 2009 at 4:49 pm
I wanted Ellis above Dorsey Thec. I wonder how he’s doin’ right now?
August 7th, 2009 at 4:49 pm
Oakglenn, you are using words and comparisons that are too difficult for Krappy’s fried noodle to process.
If you really want to communicate effectively with the old dog, compare everything to an item you might find on the Arby’s drive thru menu.
Trust me on this.
August 7th, 2009 at 4:50 pm
Kookie, you are cracking up. Seriously. In fact I can see you busting apart at the seems thru the computer screen. Get out and get some fresh air. Or at least get laid. By your hand.
Dorsey has a lot of quickness for a guy his size. I think he could play end in a 3 man line. In fact he is not quite as big as the ends for either the Ravens or Patriots.
Any way, I have to go out and socialize with actual human females, while Kookie is here and calling others out, and melting down like Chernobyl.
August 7th, 2009 at 4:50 pm
Terrapin, Good to see u posting Bro. Yeah I had wanted Ellis also. Not sure how he is doing but they are moving Dorsey to backup RDE……Behind a rookie no less.
August 7th, 2009 at 4:51 pm
Beecham he thinks you are me. Another of his priceless imaginative manifestations.
August 7th, 2009 at 4:52 pm
Info on sedrick ellis
http://www.wwl.com/Kristian–Sedrick-Ellis-heading-for-a-great-year/4919208
August 7th, 2009 at 4:52 pm
Wassup 16,
Haven’t seen you around in a while.
August 7th, 2009 at 4:53 pm
Did we find our nutts yet?
52 second team? Guess not!
August 7th, 2009 at 4:54 pm
I was one of the Dorsey bandwagon cats until everyone brought me up to speed on his injuries. I liked Ellis, but not at 4. Ended up settling on McFadden since I was so disappointed we didn’t take AP the year before.
August 7th, 2009 at 4:56 pm
We have made some head scratchin picks in the last couple but overall I think we are solid.
DHB. MITCHELL = Locks to do great things.
August 7th, 2009 at 4:56 pm
I hope SAM linebacker for Ricky Brown means on the side of the TE and not just lining up on the right side of the defense like last year.
Thomas Howard should always play on the side that is uncovered to take advantage of his speed.
August 7th, 2009 at 4:57 pm
Dude, I know. It’s why I have a love/hate relationship with the old fool. Just when you can’t take any more of his shenanigans, he throws out a deranged theory like this one and just warms your heart.
Krappy, though my mission is to get you off the blog and into a place of healing and caring, I have to admit – I’ll be a little sad the day I succeed.
August 7th, 2009 at 4:57 pm
Louis Murphy, SEC gemstone…..
Chaz Schillens, hidden behind the Sorry SD a$$teks.
August 7th, 2009 at 4:58 pm
Beeecham Says:
August 7th, 2009 at 4:49 pm
Oakglenn, you are using words and comparisons that are too difficult for Krappy’s fried noodle to process.
If you really want to communicate effectively with the old dog, compare everything to an item you might find on the Arby’s drive thru menu.
Trust me on this.
Oakglenn Says:
August 7th, 2009 at 4:50 pm
Kookie, you are cracking up. Seriously. In fact I can see you busting apart at the seems thru the computer screen. Get out and get some fresh air. Or at least get laid. By your hand.
Dorsey has a lot of quickness for a guy his size. I think he could play end in a 3 man line. In fact he is not quite as big as the ends for either the Ravens or Patriots.
Any way, I have to go out and socialize with actual human females, while Kookie is here and calling others out, and melting down like Chernobyl.
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Listen to this psycho. This is ALL that they do. Do you know why?
http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/antisocial-personality-disorder/DS00829
August 7th, 2009 at 4:58 pm
Mitchell better learn to cover, and stop releasing guys to no one. That’s the type of stuff that will keep him off the field.
August 7th, 2009 at 4:59 pm
Mitchell is a man. What else do we have on D?
August 7th, 2009 at 5:00 pm
Now this is one hell of a statement:
“I think year one, if anything taught me about preparation. We’re all gifted athletes out here on the field and everything,” Ellis said. “What separates elite athletes from just good ones is how they prepare off the field, and I’m going to take a more active approach to that this year.”
This guy has his head on right.
The prior years (excluding 2009) I wanted Peterson and Ellis. Looks like these would’ve been fan-tabu-lous picks! Problem is I would’ve missed out of the ‘real deal’ …JR (if he’s does become the real deal).
August 7th, 2009 at 5:00 pm
Looks like the D is winning today:
Ricky Brown bursts through gap at left tackle, pops Michael Bush backward. Kirk Morrison got Gary Russell in backfield w/run blitz.
Backup DE Greyson Gunheim gets sack with inside move on Marcus Johnson.
Spoke too soon:
JaMarcus puts 3 completions in a row where only the receiver could reach the fastball. “Great ball location,” a coach yells.
August 7th, 2009 at 5:00 pm
That’s the thing with the big hitters, have to know when to be in that mode. Looking for that guy coming across the middle to lay out could lead to the other guy getting open behind you.
August 7th, 2009 at 5:02 pm
Terrapin Says:
August 7th, 2009 at 5:00 pm
Now this is one hell of a statement:
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I am going to stop right there, you read my mind on this one. I slao like that he picks the vets brains.
Like you said the draft is a crap shoot, we missed this one.
August 7th, 2009 at 5:03 pm
Beecham/Oakglenn
Yeah, I know the Davis Cult wants me off the blog. But people in hell want ice-water.
Playoff Appearances by Team in the 20 years since Free Agency in 1989.
Pittsburgh 13
Philadelphia 12
Minnesota 11
San Francisco 11
Tennessee 11
Green Bay 11
Indianapolis 11
Dallas 11
New England 10
New York Giants 10
Denver 10
Miami 10
Kansas City 9
Buffalo 9
San Diego 7
Tampa Bay 7
Oakland 6
Seattle 6
New York Jets 6
St Louis 6
Chicago 6
Atlanta 6
Detroit 6
Washington 6
New Orleans 5
Cleveland 3
Arizona 2
Cincinnati 1
August 7th, 2009 at 5:03 pm
I think McFadden is going to make us forget about all that.
Now lets just hope that our DTs don’t make us remember.
August 7th, 2009 at 5:04 pm
bydavidwhite: If Chaz Schilens has failed to make a catch in tight coverage, I must ave missed it. He’s the No. 1 WR out here, hands down.
3 minutes ago from mobile web
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I remember taking heat from us wanting to take this kid…..
August 7th, 2009 at 5:05 pm
Hey Jerry, David White is eatin your lunch with the twits. Get with it man….
August 7th, 2009 at 5:06 pm
“Mad Mike” will be fine. We knew he needed work in coverage, he’ll get it.
August 7th, 2009 at 5:07 pm
Jerry’s not at practice today or tommorrow.
August 7th, 2009 at 5:08 pm
Is it me, or is LeBron the oldest looking 23 year old ever?
Why is his hair falling out already? Why does he have so many deep wrinkles?
Anyway, he’s a free agent next year, maybe we can get him to play OLB?
August 7th, 2009 at 5:08 pm
Koolkell, thanks Bro, I will take shots at jerry every chance i get.
August 7th, 2009 at 5:10 pm
Thec07 Says:
August 7th, 2009 at 5:04 pm
bydavidwhite: If Chaz Schilens has failed to make a catch in tight coverage, I must ave missed it. He’s the No. 1 WR out here, hands down.
3 minutes ago from mobile web
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I remember taking heat from us wanting to take this kid…..
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Shyt Thec, were taking crap here for saying he’s our best WR after week 17 LOL. Chaz is the man 1000 yard mark this season for Chaz!
August 7th, 2009 at 5:11 pm
Az, I’ll have a glss of that on the rocks Bro….
August 7th, 2009 at 5:11 pm
LaBron at OLD CLASSIC!!! Sign ‘em! At least you’ll sell lots of tixs (if only temporarily)
August 7th, 2009 at 5:12 pm
Comin up Thec!
DRINK UP NATION!
YOU KNOW WHO SAID IT FIRST!
August 7th, 2009 at 5:12 pm
I have to say I never saw this coming with Chaz. I was less than impressed with him the first half of the season when he finally replaced Curry. But hey, WTF do I know?
August 7th, 2009 at 5:13 pm
Just think if cable would have used the rooks more, by taking the training wheels lance had put on. Glad we didnt listen to him on henderson….
August 7th, 2009 at 5:13 pm
AZ,
Do you play/ own a guitar?
August 7th, 2009 at 5:15 pm
O,
Does Guitar Hero count?
August 7th, 2009 at 5:16 pm
AZ,
Chaz is the best WR on da club, which isnt saying much. Louie Murphy is polished enough coming out of UF and I would bet he emerges as the other starter and in the long run more productive than DHB. Louie has a bit of an edge to him and he looks like a player. NO WAY, NO WAY any Raider WR approaches 1000 yards though.
August 7th, 2009 at 5:16 pm
i think you can safely take everything kiffie said…
and wipe your ass with it…
what a freaking nightmare he was…
August 7th, 2009 at 5:16 pm
jhill Says:
August 7th, 2009 at 5:12 pm
I have to say I never saw this coming with Chaz. I was less than impressed with him the first half of the season when he finally replaced Curry. But hey, WTF do I know?
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Chaz lit it up in preseason and got the nod to start ealier in the season. not sure waht week but it was early. Then he got hurt and sat the bench when he came back until week 15 against the Texans. He scored on that first drive and never looked back. I think he liked jumping into that black hole to much to let his performace slide
August 7th, 2009 at 5:17 pm
Ron… What did I tell you?
August 7th, 2009 at 5:18 pm
ThecC,
Cable was as much a critic of Henderson as anyone. He was the one shoving Kwame down all our throats.
August 7th, 2009 at 5:18 pm
I’ll garantee Miller and Chaz both (if healthy) get close if not reach 1000.
August 7th, 2009 at 5:19 pm
AZ,
Dont know…..
August 7th, 2009 at 5:19 pm
Ron true, but had not lance had us take harris in the first place we could have been groomin henderson.
August 7th, 2009 at 5:19 pm
Florida Pete Says:
August 7th, 2009 at 5:16 pm
i think you can safely take everything kiffie said…
and wipe your ass with it…
what a freaking nightmare he was…
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You were “in” though, no?
When I complained about him retarding the offense, you took shots at me, no?
August 7th, 2009 at 5:20 pm
Raider O
I own: 2 Guitars 1 Bass
I play: Guitar, Bass, Drums, and i can record track like a mo-fo!
August 7th, 2009 at 5:20 pm
Ron, What makes u think we wont have a wr to reach 1000 yrds?
August 7th, 2009 at 5:20 pm
Jhill,
LMAO
I like the Epiphone but the salesman is telling me Yamaha is better made.
I like the Epihone Humminbird and Dove.
Humminbird is Mahogany and the Dove is Maple.
Any Advice nation?? They both feel good, and sound even better.
And what do you think of Yamaha?
August 7th, 2009 at 5:21 pm
LOL!! You guarantee it? Your guarantees dont mean sheet. Not a snowballs chance in hell any Raider WR gets a grand. The fact that you are guaranteeing it only tells me you really dont know a damn thing about this team or football. Seriously, saying that makes you look really stupid.
August 7th, 2009 at 5:22 pm
AZ,
Read post 290 please, let meknow what you think.
August 7th, 2009 at 5:23 pm
TheC,
Kwame was a 100% Cable get. Its common knowledge he convinced Al he was a zone tackle.
August 7th, 2009 at 5:23 pm
I don’t feel stupid Mac Dre, I mean Ron…
August 7th, 2009 at 5:24 pm
TheC,
Im not saying the WRs COULDNT get a grand. Im saying the offense WONT get them a grand.
August 7th, 2009 at 5:25 pm
You should
August 7th, 2009 at 5:25 pm
I just want to know what your new handle will be when Chaz has over 900 this year. If he doesn’t I’ll be posting as AZ Raider. I can admit when I’m wrong. I can tell you won’t be around this blog to take your licks when the Raiders are successful.
August 7th, 2009 at 5:26 pm
So it seems like the whole coaching staff missed it with respect to henderson.
August 7th, 2009 at 5:26 pm
Here’s the thing right. As much as everyone talks about DHBs hands, the more I read up on his progress I’m not worried. Bottom line is I believe DHB will deliver on exactly the reason why they drafted him. That is to open up the middle of the field for the rest of the team by taking defenders with him.
He will do this. Raiderbeat commented (as much as they’ve criticized him) that our defense is ALREADY backing off him respecting the speed. Jerry blogged how he took 2 defenders with him leaving the middle filled with gaps and holes.
So long as he catches a good percentage of the passes thrown his way – establishing himself as a legit threat – he’ll serve his initial purpose. Making it a good draft pick.
August 7th, 2009 at 5:26 pm
I hope I am wrong. Would be tickled to be wrong about EVERYTHING
August 7th, 2009 at 5:27 pm
Ron, Is that because we wont throw? the O-line. whats your reasoning?
August 7th, 2009 at 5:28 pm
Raider O Says:
August 7th, 2009 at 5:20 pm
Jhill,
LMAO
I like the Epiphone but the salesman is telling me Yamaha is better made.
I like the Epihone Humminbird and Dove.
Humminbird is Mahogany and the Dove is Maple.
Any Advice nation?? They both feel good, and sound even better.
And what do you think of Yamaha?
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You get what you pay for with instruments, and unfortunately thats just the way it is. Both are good for the price and equal or close (as you’ll probably see in price). The different woods have different tones so make sure your comparing sitting in the same chair and in the same spot. Once you have a price range, sit down and feel the neck for thickness to make sure it fits your hand, then just determine which one you think sounds the best.
August 7th, 2009 at 5:30 pm
The salesman is right. Yamaha is better. Epiphone is a poor mans Gibson. Go with Yamaha, or pony up the cash for a Gibson. Its the real deal.
August 7th, 2009 at 5:31 pm
The way Russell threw the ball late last year, and in camp now, I think Chaz could get 1,000. Remember Jerry Porter got 900+ a couple of years ago. “On Paper” the Raiders seem to be so diversified, that no one player is going to put up huge stats.
August 7th, 2009 at 5:31 pm
Im saying the offense WONT get them a grand.
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Why not?
August 7th, 2009 at 5:35 pm
He Hate Me Says:
August 7th, 2009 at 5:30 pm
The salesman is right. Yamaha is better. Epiphone is a poor mans Gibson. Go with Yamaha, or pony up the cash for a Gibson. Its the real deal.
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No O, If the price is similar they are similar in quality. Yamaha or not. Yamaha makes higher end modles where the higher end Epiphones are Gibsons. Gibson and Epiphone are the same manufacturer.
August 7th, 2009 at 5:36 pm
I think it’s going to ALL hinge on the right side of the Oline. If we can get some pass protection from that side, then the passing game is going to be much improved. The other thing is JRuss spreading the ball around. Ironically, we may have too many “options” for one of the guys to get 1000.
August 7th, 2009 at 5:36 pm
…though gibson does slap the gibson logo on some of there epiphones for marketing puposes.
August 7th, 2009 at 5:38 pm
Trust me guys, if Chaz is healthy all year he’s gonna get a grand fasho! He catches EVERYTHING I’ve seen so far and from the tweets from practice he’s just getting better.
August 7th, 2009 at 5:39 pm
Chaz doesnt drop passes thats real….
August 7th, 2009 at 5:40 pm
But will he get the ball thrown his way enough is the ?, AZ.
August 7th, 2009 at 5:40 pm
Looks like todays practice was about the blitz…..
Pressure Pressure Pressure
August 7th, 2009 at 5:42 pm
if i had my druthers, I would prefer to see production spread out to all the WR’s TE’s, and backs in a balaced fashion…. We have too many weopons….
August 7th, 2009 at 5:42 pm
In other words, say JRuss completes 20 balls a game …
How does that shake out? Chaz would need to get about 5 or 6 balls a game to have a chance.
I hope you are right!
August 7th, 2009 at 5:43 pm
O,
All my guitars and my bass are USA Fenders. If you have the means, these are the best guitars I’ve ever played on.
But your just a beginner right? Shyt, just get the best sounding $200-$300 bargain they got. You wont be disapointed until you really start beating on them and they go out of tune after every song.
DON’T FALL FOR THE “made in mexico” FENDERS, THEY ARE JUNK.
On second thought don’t buy any guitar made in mexico. Nothing against our southern neibors, but the quality jump is drastic.
August 7th, 2009 at 5:43 pm
More White Tweets…
Thomas Howard reads JaMarcus’ eyes like a book form umpteenth time, slams down deep throw to DHB.
DE Trevor Scott finally gets one on Mario Henderson with spin move, forces JaMarcus to tuck and run. Lots of pressure so far.
August 7th, 2009 at 5:45 pm
jhill Says:
August 7th, 2009 at 5:42 pm
In other words, say JRuss completes 20 balls a game …
How does that shake out? Chaz would need to get about 5 or 6 balls a game to have a chance.
I hope you are right!
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If I’m not mistaken Chaz had close to 180 Yards and 2 TD in the last 2 games am I right? If he just plays that good he’ll break 1000.
August 7th, 2009 at 5:47 pm
….Hmmmmm maybe not quite that many yards. 150? Shyt, I don’t feel like looking it up either….
August 7th, 2009 at 5:47 pm
He would need 62.5 yds per game.
4 catches per game with 15.8 avg.
August 7th, 2009 at 5:48 pm
Az, I ike how u switched from guitars to jump right in with a comment on chaz…..Smooth Bro,
I think you should pour youself a nice tall one…
August 7th, 2009 at 5:49 pm
Yeah,
I guess it shouldn’t be hard for him to average 65 yards a game. But I still think there are going to be some games where he is not a factor b/c someone else is hot.
August 7th, 2009 at 5:50 pm
Like i said I would pregfer a balanced attack. with everyone gettin theirs but nothing to big. Makes teams have to account for ALL WMD’s which should cause loss of sleep for DCO’s…..
August 7th, 2009 at 5:50 pm
KoolKell Says:
August 7th, 2009 at 5:47 pm
He would need 62.5 yds per game.
4 catches per game with 15.8 avg.
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I expect more from him…. Thanks for doing the math but now I gonna go ahead and say he WILL break 1000 if he stays healthy ALL YEAR and misses no starts.
August 7th, 2009 at 5:50 pm
pregfer, what the hell does that mean??????
August 7th, 2009 at 5:51 pm
Thank you AZ. You all say the same thing. Dogg, 4eva, etc… lol
Maybe because I Deal with cars, and some are made better than others, so I have the mentality of “which is better made”. quality of sound, make, and looks.
August 7th, 2009 at 5:51 pm
I think JLH will be the guy who has the best chance to get to 1000 yds because of how he’s used in the slot.
August 7th, 2009 at 5:52 pm
Thec, everything with me goes right back to my true colors… Silver & Black baby!
August 7th, 2009 at 5:52 pm
Oakglenn Says:
August 7th, 2009 at 4:40 pm
“Personally, I was out all day today socializing,”
LOL.
August 7th, 2009 at 5:53 pm
Jhill, I can see your logic with the DHB doing all the clear outs. JLH is a threat to take it ti the house so his YAC will be very high…..
Az can you serve Jhill a glass please….
August 7th, 2009 at 5:55 pm
Chaz… JLH… Murphy… DHB… core receivers? ( where does or does Walker fit in? )
August 7th, 2009 at 5:55 pm
KoolKell Says:
August 7th, 2009 at 4:19 pm
Oakglenn
Before registration you were know as “King of the Trolls”
…..
He still is, Kell. Review today’s comments from Raider Ron (note, with a space between Raider and Ron. Not the real RaiderRon, with no space in name).
August 7th, 2009 at 5:55 pm
Appreciate that, as hot as it is …
Plenty of ice puhleeze!
August 7th, 2009 at 5:56 pm
Walker, should have to earn his spot IMHO….
Not down with the he is a vet crap, let him go out and earn his keep. IF he out shines a youngster in camp so beit, if not he rides the sidelines….
August 7th, 2009 at 5:57 pm
Thec, Raider O, 4eva, Glenn, Lifer, and all respectable brothers I haven’t mentioned, it has been a good friday talkin with ya’ll, but it’s time I take Thec’s advise and pour myself a cold one.
9-7!
CHAZ SCHILEN BREAKS 1000 IN 2009!
53 MEN AND COUTLESS FANS COMMITTED TO ONE PURPOSE!
DRINK UP NATION!
RAIDER ON GUYS, I’LL CHECK IN FROM HOME LATER THIS EVENING.
Out…
August 7th, 2009 at 5:57 pm
Exactly Tonio …
That’s what I mean by “options” in the passing game, and not to mention one of the RBs getting hot. If that happens JRuss may not need to throw the ball.
August 7th, 2009 at 5:58 pm
AZ,
I need an outlet for energy, emotions, etc…..
I always wanted to play the Piano and the Guitar. Guitar is less expensive.
August 7th, 2009 at 5:59 pm
Later AZ.
August 7th, 2009 at 6:00 pm
ENGLANDRAIDER Says:
August 7th, 2009 at 3:24 pm
Lord, Al was born a gambling man……….do a loooo
Tryin’ to make a living and doing the best he can
When it’s time to leave us, he hopes we’ll understand
Al was born a gambling man.
……
What gambles has Al made this off season? DHB isn’t a gamble, is he? I thought he was clearly better than Crabtree? Better work ethic, right?
August 7th, 2009 at 6:00 pm
You’re right about Walker earning his spot. But I like what I have heard in regards to how he’s taking Murphy and DHB to the side and giving them “instruction”. You can’t underestimate that part of it. And the fact that he is looking healthy can’t be a bad thing. I don’t get the impression that Cable is going to play guys that don’t earn it.
August 7th, 2009 at 6:02 pm
AZ, take care Bro….
I am out to gonna go to the battin cage hit some balls.
In sports today you have all the so called “nations” poping up “red sox n—–”, “Sportsn—–”, “Whoever N—-”.
But lets not kid ourselves, we know of but one nation orginal and worthy to called as such and that great NATION is:
<<>>
August 7th, 2009 at 6:03 pm
Thec07 Says:
August 7th, 2009 at 5:56 pm
Walker, should have to earn his spot IMHO….
Not down with the he is a vet crap, let him go out and earn his keep. IF he out shines a youngster in camp so beit, if not he rides the sidelines….
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What about Murphy and Bey, Does Bey’s contract snuff out Murphy’s playing time?
August 7th, 2009 at 6:03 pm
DHB is without question going to drop some w passes this year that will make you say WTF. It’s GOING to happen. But it’s the 2 or 3 that he catches each game that is what you need to get ready for too!
August 7th, 2009 at 6:05 pm
Does Watkins make it somewhere… and what of the newest “miller” Nick aka Miller Light …
August 7th, 2009 at 6:07 pm
DHB is exclusively running with the first team and often against Nnamdi. And with the progress we are hearing about in regards to his catching the ball, I think that battle is already over.
And I really don’t think they were in competition based upon what they would be asked to do. I doubt Murphy would be called upon to “clear out” defenses, ya know?
August 7th, 2009 at 6:07 pm
KoolKell,
I think you put the best players on the field IMHO.
Just read something similair that dorsey, who was a fav here is having to sit because of a rook, who is making far less. So I say play whoever gives us the best chance to win. Like i said if it was up to me, everyone would have balanced stats, this would mean are attack si that a balanced attack. This is going to keep teams waaaaayyyyy off balance from a defensive perspective. Who do you key on. Do you base it on stats or film?….
Play the best 11 on both sides no matter what its all about the W’s, not the salary…..
August 7th, 2009 at 6:08 pm
Jhill… if a RB get’s hot.. Cable’s gonna ride’em all the way to the stable… and with the three we have… imagine DMC breakin off for 80 in a half.. and being “spelled” by Bush or Fargas… once they “have to stack the box” deep strike
August 7th, 2009 at 6:08 pm
Chaz
DHB
JLH
Walker
Murphy
are all locks
August 7th, 2009 at 6:10 pm
Az, I know you are gone, like I am supposed to be but when you get back you owe tonia a tall frosty Glass…
August 7th, 2009 at 6:10 pm
The only reason someone doesn’t catch a grand this year… is because rb’s are way to hot …and the ball’s being spread through so many options… Not to mention .. our soon to be pro bowl TE Miller… (O-line please hold up )
August 7th, 2009 at 6:10 pm
Gotta gog uys been fun cage is callin
1 NATION
August 7th, 2009 at 6:11 pm
Really Thec?
So what do you do with the Bush or DMac, whoever isn’t in your starting 11?
What about your 3rd and 4th WRs?
August 7th, 2009 at 6:11 pm
Tonio Says:
August 7th, 2009 at 6:08 pm
Jhill… if a RB get’s hot.. Cable’s gonna ride’em all the way to the stable…
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OMG. When did you become a Raider fan, like yesterday? The only two Raider coaches in recent memory who’ve ran the ball on a consistent basis were Jon Gruden and Lane Kiffin, and you saw what happened to them. Al Davis believes in the deep pass, and for all of the talk as to how Al doesn’t meddle with the offense, our coaches that keep the ball on the ground don’t tend to last long. Cable is not riding any running back to any stable. We will not run the ball more than an average of 20 times per game this year. We probably never will again until Davis dies.
August 7th, 2009 at 6:12 pm
My bad tonio spelled it wrong, AZ its TONIO…..
You actually owe him a picture of the good stuff….
August 7th, 2009 at 6:12 pm
Tonio Says:
August 7th, 2009 at 6:10 pm
The only reason someone doesn’t catch a grand this year… is because rb’s are way to hot …
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HOLY JESUS FN’ CHRIST, WOULD SOMEONE HELP THIS KID?
August 7th, 2009 at 6:13 pm
It’ll be interesting to see how Cable uses these weapons.
I’m hoping for 3WR sets, and 2 TE formations are primary sets for our offense. Save the I formation for goalline and 4th qtr.
August 7th, 2009 at 6:14 pm
jhill Says:
August 7th, 2009 at 6:13 pm
It’ll be interesting to see how Cable uses these weapons.
…..
Weapons!!! Ha ha haaaaaaaaaa. Only here.
August 7th, 2009 at 6:15 pm
There’s no doubt that Pittsburgh, NE, Indy, are all building defenses especially designed to stop the Raiders “weapons”. I think the Super Bowl goes through Oakland again. The average football fan may not be able to name two Raider receivers now, but oh, they will!
August 7th, 2009 at 6:16 pm
jhill Says:
August 7th, 2009 at 6:11 pm
Really Thec?
So what do you do with the Bush or DMac, whoever isn’t in your starting 11?
What about your 3rd and 4th WRs?
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I am not saying dont play them…. I said start your best 11. We are in agreement if you look at my post prior to, I would prefer we have a balanced attack with everyone gettin in on the act… Not just featuring 1 or 2 guys… I would like to see all our WR’s in on it, an all our backs.
Balance makes it tougher for a D to key in on one player. If we have all of our receivers in the mix, whjo is the D going to key on, and hat basiw do they have stats or film. They will have to account for ALL of our WMD’s…..
August 7th, 2009 at 6:18 pm
I gotta get to the cage guys, its been fun…..
1 Nation…
August 7th, 2009 at 6:18 pm
Ok Thec,
I was actaully contemplating your best 11 theory in a literal sense, and it wasn’t such a bad idea.
August 7th, 2009 at 6:19 pm
M(oron)adden R(ediculous)aider
It may be only here…but not for long. The last few games last year showed us something…that can and should be built upon… The preseason games with Garcia in particular ripping apart the “others” will only boost confidence. How can you not see the potential of DMC ripping off a 60 + yard gain more than once in a game? or Bush dragging people for 15 and 20 on a clip? What does that do? It’s all pie in the sky till it happens… but damn the pie taste good… ( wash it down with the juicy cooo koool aid )
August 7th, 2009 at 6:19 pm
Weapons!!! Ha ha haaaaaaaaaa. Only here.
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Tools?
August 7th, 2009 at 6:20 pm
Jhill, Its good Bro, didnt take it personally.
Take care Man the cage is callin me. I am going to close this notebook so I cant read anything else my NATION brothers are typing.
August 7th, 2009 at 6:23 pm
later Thec…
Weapons… Tools… Nfl Players earning their pay…
August 7th, 2009 at 6:24 pm
How can you not see the potential of DMC ripping off a 60 + yard gain more than once in a game?
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Still have to see how our Oline comes together, especially in pass protection. Big runs will be the byproduct of all the other things coming together.
2 60 yd runs? Per game?
I better not let DMac get past me in my FFL draft.
August 7th, 2009 at 6:27 pm
Be it a run up the gut.. turn the corner… swing pass… screen pass… bubble screen whatever… I gotta think this kids learned something from last year.
August 7th, 2009 at 6:28 pm
jhill Says:
August 7th, 2009 at 6:13 pm
It’ll be interesting to see how Cable uses these weapons.
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Yes, that will be the big question. I hope he’s learned from some of the decisions he made last yr.
Remember that Kwame tape? Yet he still was stubborn enough to ride him until it became obscene.
I like Cable’s fire etc…..I just hope he manages his roster much better this year.
August 7th, 2009 at 6:30 pm
I liked Cable’s play calling at the end. I guess we can thank Henderson for that.
August 7th, 2009 at 6:36 pm
I know KC must be pissed. Dorsey is way out of shape and got some no name dude ahead of him. They just signed #3 overall pick Tyson Jackson today. Much of why they reached for Jackson is because he and Dorsey are close homeboys who dominated together at LSU. They had visions of that LSU line doing the same things in the NFL. You would think Dorsey would be motivated to be in top shape to play with Jackson this year. Guess not.
August 7th, 2009 at 6:40 pm
Terrapin Says:
August 7th, 2009 at 4:49 pm
I wanted Ellis above Dorsey Thec. I wonder how he’s doin’ right now?
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Not so fast on Ellis. Sedrick Ellis is not really a standout on the Saints D-Line. He’s not bad nor is he great. He’s just another guy out there. I don’t care how that article spun it. I listen to Saints training camp on the drive home from work down here and have not heard Ellis’ name mentioned in 4 days.
August 7th, 2009 at 6:50 pm
It’s going to be interesting how sharp and how well they execute vis a vie Dallas Thursday.
August 7th, 2009 at 6:50 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
August 7th, 2009 at 6:15 pm There’s no doubt that Pittsburgh, NE, Indy, are all building defenses especially designed to stop the Raiders “weapons”. I think the Super Bowl goes through Oakland again. The average football fan may not be able to name two Raider receivers now, but oh, they will!
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LMAO..I love it..comedy at it’s best.
“Weapons”?? You actually honestly believe any team in the league is having discussions on how to “stop” the Raiders “weapons”??
WHAT WEAPONS??
You have 3 RB’s that you ALL stated last year were these awesome WEAPONS..they all turned out to be duds. Just because YOU want them to now produce doesn’t mean squat. Last year McFumble, Bush, and Fargas had all of 8 td’s COMBINED..none with more than a 4.4 avg. You still have Oline problems..how are they now “weapons”?
Receiving? Walker? yes, again, LMFAO..nothing needs to be said.
Bey? Again, side splitting laughter..so..uh…where are those awesome weapons, again, that other teams are burning the midnight oil, hoping to somehow contain?
August 7th, 2009 at 6:52 pm
KoolKell Says:
August 7th, 2009 at 5:19 pm
Florida Pete Says:
August 7th, 2009 at 5:16 pm
i think you can safely take everything kiffie said…
and wipe your ass with it…
what a freaking nightmare he was…
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You were “in” though, no?
When I complained about him retarding the offense, you took shots at me, no?
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you’re joking right…
from the very first day i signed on here, i was slamming kiffie…
i was saying fire the little schitt…
so no…
i guarantee you are thinking of someone else…
August 7th, 2009 at 6:57 pm
Alrighty then, Lefty.
August 7th, 2009 at 7:28 pm
after reading tem minutes of crabtree crap, said to hell with it and skipped to post
what the hell are we gonna do wiht the two mill burgess trade got u s back
fa def player suggestions????
and crabbtree has a huge ego and wants to be paid as much or more than dhb, to try and state that he and the media thought he was the best wr in the draft.
he’s a litttle butt hurt, personnaly i loved watching him wence when al pulled that extra couple million out of crabtrees “wallet” fashon diva. did anyone else see the predraft pic of him all decked out in his silver & black tennys
sorry fag al kicked your ass over the bay to rainbowville you only get as much respect as you give
August 7th, 2009 at 7:41 pm
# Richochet Says:
August 7th, 2009 at 6:50 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
August 7th, 2009 at 6:15 pm There’s no doubt that Pittsburgh, NE, Indy, are all building defenses especially designed to stop the Raiders “weapons”. I think the Super Bowl goes through Oakland again. The average football fan may not be able to name two Raider receivers now, but oh, they will!
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LMAO..I love it..comedy at it’s best.
“Weapons”?? You actually honestly believe any team in the league is having discussions on how to “stop” the Raiders “weapons”??
WHAT WEAPONS??
You have 3 RB’s that you ALL stated last year were these awesome WEAPONS..they all turned out to be duds. Just because YOU want them to now produce doesn’t mean squat. Last year McFumble, Bush, and Fargas had all of 8 td’s COMBINED..none with more than a 4.4 avg. You still have Oline problems..how are they now “weapons”?
Receiving? Walker? yes, again, LMFAO..nothing needs to be said.
Bey? Again, side splitting laughter..so..uh…where are those awesome weapons, again, that other teams are burning the midnight oil, hoping to somehow contain?
Dumb and Dumber continue their tag team comedy routine.
August 7th, 2009 at 7:48 pm
MR’s stupidity at it again…Now Javon Walker doesn’t have a work ethic? Never heard that one, I’m sure you have a buttload of links that will support your assertions…
To clear up one thing for you, in certain cases, Al will let you get away without a strong work ethic(see Charles Woodson) as long as you have natural talent. What does Crabtree have? F-ing nothing. He’s small, can’t run, and a like Troy Edwards before him all he can do is catch the ball in college in a joke of an offense. Like I said before the guy is Braylon Edwards minus the talent. Time will tell, but right now, those teams(Browns, Rams, & us) are proven right to take him off their draft board since he’s brain-dead.
August 7th, 2009 at 7:55 pm
My question for MaddenRaider is…
Who is your favorite football team? You denigrate everything about the Raiders and criticize every single move that the team makes.
How dare you name yourself after one of the greatest coaches to play the game. Please change your name immediately and stop disrespecting the legacy and namesake of John Madden.
August 7th, 2009 at 7:58 pm
Kush Says:
August 7th, 2009 at 7:55 pm
My question for MaddenRaider is…
Who is your favorite football team? You denigrate everything about the Raiders and criticize every single move that the team makes.
How dare you name yourself after one of the greatest coaches to play the game. Please change your name immediately and stop disrespecting the legacy and namesake of John Madden.
>>
Bingo, not to mention he rips on John Madden’s best friend 24/7…God forbid he ever meets his namesake and Madden tries to dish truth about Al Davis to him.
August 7th, 2009 at 8:04 pm
Kush Says:
August 7th, 2009 at 7:55 pm
My question for MaddenRaider is…
Who is your favorite football team? You denigrate everything about the Raiders and criticize every single move that the team makes.
How dare you name yourself after one of the greatest coaches to play the game. Please change your name immediately and stop disrespecting the legacy and namesake of John Madden.
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Fool.
Madden is FAR FROM ONE OF THE GREATEST COACHES…geez…he’s in the hall of fame because of his announcing, not his coaching. He was mediocre at best at coaching, and honestly was the motley fool that everyone loved to laugh at while announcing.
Get a clue.
Borrow a dollar, and buy one.
Hey, are you from MVN?
August 7th, 2009 at 8:14 pm
MaddenRaiderisadouchebag Says:
August 7th, 2009 at 7:48 pm
To clear up one thing for you, in certain cases, Al will let you get away without a strong work ethic(see Charles Woodson) as long as you have natural talent. What does Crabtree have? F-ing nothing. He’s small, can’t run, and a like Troy Edwards before him all he can do is catch the ball in college in a joke of an offense. Like I said before the guy is Braylon Edwards minus the talent. Time will tell, but right now, those teams(Browns, Rams, & us) are proven right to take him off their draft board since he’s brain-dead.
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Moron.
Quit abusing the right to be stupid.
Here’s a list of Crabtree’s college accomplishments..NO OTHER PLAYER HAS 1/4 OF HIS ACCOMPLISHMENTS, moron.
Recognition Season Honor Status Notes
2007 All-Big 12 Selected for first team [25]
2007 AFCA Coaches’ All-America Selected One of two wide receivers selected; first Freshman to earn the honor since Herschel Walker in 1980[26]
2007 AP All-America Selected for first team Garnered Unanimous All-America status by being selected for a fifth NCAA-recognized All-America team[27][28]
2007 AP Big 12 Offensive Newcomer of the Year Selected [29][30]
2007 AT&T ESPN All-America Player of the Year Winner First freshman to win the award[31]
2007 Biletnikoff Award Winner First freshman and first Big 12 player ever chosen for the honor[32]
2007 CBSSports.com All-America Selected to first team [33]
2007 CBSSports.com Freshman of the Year Selected Unanimous first place selection[34]
2007 ESPN All-America Selected [35]
2007 FWAA All-America Selected for team [36]
2007 Maxwell Award Chosen as a semifinalist Only freshman chosen as semifinalist in 2007[37][38]
2007 Paul Warfield Award Winner [33]
2007 Rivals.com National Freshman of the Year Selected [39]
2007 SI.com All-America Selected for first team [40]
2007 Sporting News All-America Selected for first team Garnered Consensus All-America status by being selected for a third NCAA-recognized All-America team[41]
2007 Sporting News Big 12 All-Freshman Team Selected [42]
2007 Touchdown Club of Columbus Freshman of the Year Selected [33]
2007 Walter Camp All-America Selected for first team [43]
2008 Playboy All-America Selected [44]
2008 Preseason All-Big 12 Selected for first team Only unanimous selection[45][46]
2008 All-Big 12 Selected for first team Only offensive unanimous selection[47]
2008 AFCA Coaches’ All-America Selected One of three returnees from last year’s list[48]
2008 Biletnikoff Award Winner First ever two-time winner[49]
2008 Walter Camp All-America Selected for first team [50]
2008 FWAA All-America Selected for team Garnered Consensus All-America status by being selected for a third NCAA-recognized All-America team[51]
2008 SI.com All-America Selected for first team [52]
2008 AP All-America Selected for first team [53]
2008 Sporting News All-America Selected for first team Garnered Unanimous All-America status by being selected for a fifth NCAA-recognized All-America team[54]
2008 Paul Warfield Award Winner
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What has Bey done?
NOTHING. Al picked Bey because of his speed, fool, nothing else. He couldn’t catch the ball in college, and HE STILL CAN’T CATCH THE BALL.
And yeah, it was funny watching Crabtree smile and give a THANK GOD THE RAIDERS DIDN’T PICK ME..did you see Bey’s face? Had the ‘OH DAMN..the Raiders???”
12 of the first round picks still aren’t signed.
It’s nothing that Crabtree isn’t signed..it’s expected.
Bey? He knew he was a high first or second round pick, and is laughing all the way to the bank, with a “early bust” label before his first game.
Who does that sound like? Sound guy who missed ALL OF TRAINING CAMP? Just completed his second year? Blase’..out of shape..could care less? Big bucks? And is also laughing at Al..
Anyone?
August 7th, 2009 at 8:18 pm
Jerry, none of mine, but just hope the “issues” at home are no big deal. God speed.
Thanks once again for your coverage of our belvoed team.
It can’t be ****in’ easy sometimes!
C’mon Raiders!!!
August 7th, 2009 at 8:22 pm
381. Bey’s a system fit.
Crab has not run a 40. Is threatening to RE-ENTER THE DRAFT, is injured and is making a diva of himself with out ever catching a pass.
If you read some of Jerry’s posts you’d know Bey’s catching the ball rather nicely after a shaky start.
Thank Gawd davis passed on him. He’s the last thing we need as we try to rebuild and become a TEAM.
August 7th, 2009 at 8:23 pm
379.”Bingo, not to mention he rips on John Madden’s best friend 24/7…God forbid he ever meets his namesake and Madden tries to dish truth about Al Davis to him.”
Madden’s best friend? McDonalds?!
August 7th, 2009 at 8:25 pm
09′…Raider Weapons…ONLINE…
August 7th, 2009 at 8:42 pm
Richochet Says:
August 7th, 2009 at 8:04 pm
Kush Says:
August 7th, 2009 at 7:55 pm
My question for MaddenRaider is…
Who is your favorite football team? You denigrate everything about the Raiders and criticize every single move that the team makes.
How dare you name yourself after one of the greatest coaches to play the game. Please change your name immediately and stop disrespecting the legacy and namesake of John Madden.
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Fool.
Madden is FAR FROM ONE OF THE GREATEST COACHES…geez…he’s in the hall of fame because of his announcing, not his coaching. He was mediocre at best at coaching, and honestly was the motley fool that everyone loved to laugh at while announcing.
Get a clue.
Borrow a dollar, and buy one.
Hey, are you from MVN?”
John Madden has the highest winning percentage among NFL Head Coaches that have coached for at least 10 years in the league. He was inducted into the HOF as a HEAD COACH not as an announcer. Who’s the fool now?
At least MaddenRaider is an intelligent antagonist. This Richochet idiot gives a new meaning to the word MORON!
Here’s some advice for you numbskull: Get off of Crabtree’s dick, it’s sickening.
August 7th, 2009 at 8:54 pm
Ricochet you got owned yesterday by multiple posters and today by a 16 year old kid.
I’ll ask you the same question I asked MaddenRaider and I’ll see how long it takes your coward @ss to respond…
Ricochet, who is your favorite football team?
August 7th, 2009 at 9:09 pm
How do you shytbags know that I don’t know Madden in person? I’ll give you one hint right now: Madden never goes to Alameda. He’ll attend a Raider pre season game once in a blue moon. He apprciates Al giving him the job, and that’s about it. Madden’s connection is with his former players. Al Davis is a necessary evil in the whole scheme of things because he gave Madden his job. Madden never visits Davis, they never hang out or talk, hardly ever. Madden’s friends with more Niner guys than he is with Raider guys. Madden is a respectful, honorable guy who won’t bite the hand that feeds him, but you girls would be hurt if yo u knew what he really thought of Al Davis. Madden thinks the same of Davis as I do. He thinks he’s a f’n fool who needs to retire. That’s why Madden wouldn’t come here to GM, despite Al begging him to.
August 7th, 2009 at 9:12 pm
Tonio, question:
What does rediculous mean, you uneducated crack head?
August 7th, 2009 at 9:12 pm
RaiderDogg Says:
August 7th, 2009 at 8:42 pm
Richochet Says:
August 7th, 2009 at 8:04 pm
Kush Says:
August 7th, 2009 at 7:55 pm
My question for MaddenRaider is…
Who is your favorite football team? You denigrate everything about the Raiders and criticize every single move that the team makes.
How dare you name yourself after one of the greatest coaches to play the game. Please change your name immediately and stop disrespecting the legacy and namesake of John Madden.
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Fool.
Madden is FAR FROM ONE OF THE GREATEST COACHES…geez…he’s in the hall of fame because of his announcing, not his coaching. He was mediocre at best at coaching, and honestly was the motley fool that everyone loved to laugh at while announcing.
Get a clue.
Borrow a dollar, and buy one.
Hey, are you from MVN?”
John Madden has the highest winning percentage among NFL Head Coaches that have coached for at least 10 years in the league. He was inducted into the HOF as a HEAD COACH not as an announcer. Who’s the fool now?
At least MaddenRaider is an intelligent antagonist. This Richochet idiot gives a new meaning to the word MORON!
Here’s some advice for you numbskull: Get off of Crabtree’s dick, it’s sickening.
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Highest winning % doesn’t mean you’re ‘the best’, fool.
With Madden the Raiders also lost 5 afc title games in 7 years. The Raiders AND the Cowboys had the tag of “can’t win the big one”.
When Seifert left the Niners he had the highest winning % EVER..and he’s FAR from a hall of fame coach.
Don’t be hating because I torched your ass regarding Crabtree..just state “wow, he did all that, and we passed on him? And we took a WR who’s a project, and has trouble holding onto the ball”??
Then apologize for being so slow.
August 7th, 2009 at 9:21 pm
Kush Says:
August 7th, 2009 at 8:54 pm
Ricochet you got owned yesterday by multiple posters and today by a 16 year old kid.
I’ll ask you the same question I asked MaddenRaider and I’ll see how long it takes your coward @ss to respond…
Ricochet, who is your favorite football team?
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You just got your ass handed to you by everyone.
You’re just to slow to realize it.
I asked YOU if you’re the board fool from MVN..you pretended you didn’t see it.
You are that fool from MVN, aren’t you? lol..I can tell.
Slow..dense..borderline babbling idiot.
Waits for others to speak, then state’s “they owned you” even though they begged off, almost pleading to be left alone.
Let me ask AGAIN..you’ve seen everything Crabtree has done..WHAT HAS BEY DONE?
Let me help, considering you and the other “hanging on Bey’s sac” don’t have the balls to step up…HE’S DONE NOTHING.
And he’s still done nothing.
Now shut up before you hurt yourself..again…still.
August 7th, 2009 at 9:46 pm
Nnamdi21 Says:
August 7th, 2009 at 8:22 pm
381. Bey’s a system fit.
Crab has not run a 40. Is threatening to RE-ENTER THE DRAFT, is injured and is making a diva of himself with out ever catching a pass.
If you read some of Jerry’s posts you’d know Bey’s catching the ball rather nicely after a shaky start.
Thank Gawd davis passed on him. He’s the last thing we need as we try to rebuild and become a TEAM.
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Bey is a “system fit”?? lol..and what system would that be?
OH..got it..the AL DAVIS SYSTEM FIT.
Al: “Can you catch the ball”?
Bey: “No”
Al: “do you run good routes?
Bey: “No, why?”
Al: Are you fast?
Bey: “Hell yeah.”
Al: “Cool. You’re hired Darren”
Bey: “Uh, it’s Darrius”
Al: “Dare us to what? Hey, who are you?”
Crabtree’s agent already stated that it’s a crock about him holding out until next year. NO AGENT WOULD EVER SUGGEST THAT..agent’s get paid when you sign on the dotted line..prior to that, they can be fired and replaced at any time. No agent is going to give a player a year to consider if the agent screwed up or not. That was the cousin acting all that.
BTW..didn’t lardbutt Russell holdout for ALL OF TRAINING CAMP..without even have thrown one ball?
Don’t be a hypocrite.
BTW..you might want to read up. No where has Crabtree EVER been a problem, or locker room disturbance.
He’s holding out along with a dozen other first round draft picks.
Geez..sounds like you guys are all pretty much new to this, aren’t you?
Aren’t you glad you have someone around to clue you in?
Pay attention in the future. I don’t want to have to keep repeating myself.
As far as Bey having caught some balls? lol. He’s a #7 pick. Isn’t he supposed to catch MOST of the balls? Hell, I can catch a football. Can’t you? Yeah, he’s caught some, and guess what? Now the reports are stating he’s STILL dropping balls, and bobbling balls.
What were Bey’s 3 knocks in college?
1. dropping balls
2. bobbling balls
3. running bad routes.
Yep, he’s consistent, lol.I’ll give him that.
August 7th, 2009 at 11:03 pm
KoolKell Says:
August 7th, 2009 at 4:58 pm
Listen to this psycho. This is ALL that they do. Do you know why?
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Kookie, this is a statement you wrote a few hours ago while I was away. It does not make logical sense. It does not make gramatical sense. Kookie, get mental help. Seriously.
August 7th, 2009 at 11:15 pm
# The Real MaddenRaider Says:
August 7th, 2009 at 5:55 pm
KoolKell Says:
August 7th, 2009 at 4:19 pm
Oakglenn
Before registration you were know as “King of the Trolls”
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He still is, Kell. Review today’s comments from Raider Ron (note, with a space between Raider and Ron. Not the real RaiderRon, with no space in name).
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# Oakglenn Says:
August 7th, 2009 at 3:36 pm
Hilarious. Good to see that MaddenRaider, Kookie and Missedabrain all think I am lurking under every rock. The truth is I have not been here since early this am. Sorry that I broke all of your brains. And as for Dud, I fritzed that guy’s gourd so badly, he went deranged Nam vet on me and started calling me a slant eyed gook. He must be in some Veterans Hospital somewhere thinking he is stationed in Danang. Man I love this.
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For the millionth time, I am not Raider Ron or Beecham. There were trolls who came here and tried to emulate my posts. You fell for it. Now they are doing it again. They came on here and admitted it. Since the registration they can’t post as me anymore. MR I have really gone lite on you recently. Do you want me to start piling on again?? Did you see what just happened to Dud?? Remember your epic meltdowns??? Kookie is melting down as we speak and I haven’t even started on him yet. Right now there are only three posters on this blog that I have a problem with. Kookie, Maddenloser and missedabrain. Funny thing is most people seem to have problems with those idiots. What does that tell ya??
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