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		<title>By: RogRaiderFan</title>
		<link>http://www.ibabuzz.com/oaklandraiders/2009/08/07/the-wall-arrives/comment-page-4/#comment-122802</link>
		<dc:creator>RogRaiderFan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Aug 2009 17:13:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>just look at all the guys who won the heisman and never even get drafted matt lienart was a super star matt cassell  (both for USC )never played you tell me whos better 
Richochet what are you 12 you sound like you have never watched a game before college stats wont tell you who his gonna be a star in the nfl 
because if teams just drafted off stats they would not hold the combine every year you dont know football and will  be ignored from now on
are so lonely and sad to creat an account and blog about a team you dont like every single day thats just sad</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>just look at all the guys who won the heisman and never even get drafted matt lienart was a super star matt cassell  (both for USC )never played you tell me whos better<br />
Richochet what are you 12 you sound like you have never watched a game before college stats wont tell you who his gonna be a star in the nfl<br />
because if teams just drafted off stats they would not hold the combine every year you dont know football and will  be ignored from now on<br />
are so lonely and sad to creat an account and blog about a team you dont like every single day thats just sad</p>
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		<title>By: Richochet</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richochet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Aug 2009 05:46:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>RogRaiderFan Says: 
August 8th, 2009 at 7:25 pm college stats dont mean anything DHB will be better then crabtree cause he is gonna work hard fot it
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Arguably the dumbest comment I&#039;ve ever heard.
Actually TWO of the dumbest comments I&#039;ve ever heard.
&quot;College stats don&#039;t mean anything&quot;???
SO YOU&#039;RE SAYING ALL THESE YEARS that every team has been drafting players because of their college output should have just done what? An Al Davis? &quot;Duh...is he fast? SIGN HIM.&quot;
You&#039;re an idiot. A full blown idiot.

Oh..and Bey is &quot;going to be better than Crabtree because he is going to work hard for it&quot;??
What? You&#039;re saying he DIDN&#039;T WORK HARD IN COLLEGE?
See how stupid that comment is?
Facts are both worked hard, and Crabtree was vastly superior to Bey.
Oh, and if Bey&#039;s current production is due to his &quot;working hard&quot;?? Considering he sucks, maybe that &quot;working hard&quot; isn&#039;t working out for him.
It&#039;s called talent, dufus.

Something Crabtree has, and something Bey likely never will.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RogRaiderFan Says:<br />
August 8th, 2009 at 7:25 pm college stats dont mean anything DHB will be better then crabtree cause he is gonna work hard fot it<br />
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Arguably the dumbest comment I&#8217;ve ever heard.<br />
Actually TWO of the dumbest comments I&#8217;ve ever heard.<br />
&#8220;College stats don&#8217;t mean anything&#8221;???<br />
SO YOU&#8217;RE SAYING ALL THESE YEARS that every team has been drafting players because of their college output should have just done what? An Al Davis? &#8220;Duh&#8230;is he fast? SIGN HIM.&#8221;<br />
You&#8217;re an idiot. A full blown idiot.</p>
<p>Oh..and Bey is &#8220;going to be better than Crabtree because he is going to work hard for it&#8221;??<br />
What? You&#8217;re saying he DIDN&#8217;T WORK HARD IN COLLEGE?<br />
See how stupid that comment is?<br />
Facts are both worked hard, and Crabtree was vastly superior to Bey.<br />
Oh, and if Bey&#8217;s current production is due to his &#8220;working hard&#8221;?? Considering he sucks, maybe that &#8220;working hard&#8221; isn&#8217;t working out for him.<br />
It&#8217;s called talent, dufus.</p>
<p>Something Crabtree has, and something Bey likely never will.</p>
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		<title>By: RogRaiderFan</title>
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		<dc:creator>RogRaiderFan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Aug 2009 02:29:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>im sorry madden but you dont sound like a raider fan you make up facts about john madden and agree with idiots who down play the raiders.
al davis was chosen to be the speaker for madden into the Hall of Fame nuff said that alone shows the love and respect he has for the man</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>im sorry madden but you dont sound like a raider fan you make up facts about john madden and agree with idiots who down play the raiders.<br />
al davis was chosen to be the speaker for madden into the Hall of Fame nuff said that alone shows the love and respect he has for the man</p>
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		<title>By: RogRaiderFan</title>
		<link>http://www.ibabuzz.com/oaklandraiders/2009/08/07/the-wall-arrives/comment-page-4/#comment-122714</link>
		<dc:creator>RogRaiderFan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Aug 2009 02:25:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Richochet is an idiot, spend more time worrying about your own team
293 receptions, 4,414 yards and 42 touchdowns - all Big 12 records these look just like crabtree stats
but they belong to Rashaun Woods
 Woods played collegiately at Oklahoma State University and was drafted by the San Francisco 49ers in the 1st round (31st overall) of the 2004 NFL Draft
 NFL career
Woods had 7 catches for 160 yards and 1 touchdown 
college stats dont mean anything DHB will be better then crabtree cause he is gonna work hard fot it</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Richochet is an idiot, spend more time worrying about your own team<br />
293 receptions, 4,414 yards and 42 touchdowns &#8211; all Big 12 records these look just like crabtree stats<br />
but they belong to Rashaun Woods<br />
 Woods played collegiately at Oklahoma State University and was drafted by the San Francisco 49ers in the 1st round (31st overall) of the 2004 NFL Draft<br />
 NFL career<br />
Woods had 7 catches for 160 yards and 1 touchdown<br />
college stats dont mean anything DHB will be better then crabtree cause he is gonna work hard fot it</p>
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		<title>By: Ex-Iowa Tight End in Oakland Raiders Camp &#124; Eastern Iowa News</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ex-Iowa Tight End in Oakland Raiders Camp &#124; Eastern Iowa News</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Aug 2009 22:55:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: The RaiderCast &#124; Around the AFC West</title>
		<link>http://www.ibabuzz.com/oaklandraiders/2009/08/07/the-wall-arrives/comment-page-4/#comment-122664</link>
		<dc:creator>The RaiderCast &#124; Around the AFC West</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Aug 2009 22:20:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Richochet</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richochet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Aug 2009 20:49:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kush Says: 
August 8th, 2009 at 1:18 pm 
You’re an idiot. Kush and Kushman are two different names you dummy. You just proved that you actually can still only read kindergarten books. hahaha. 

what an dummy you are.

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riiiiggghhht...
Because they&#039;re so many posters using the effiminent name &quot;Kush&quot;. Posters over there refer to you as &quot;Kush&quot;..so don&#039;t even run that BS, little man.

Not to mention tht &quot;Kushman&quot;, on mvn, has commented about coming over to Jerry&#039;s threads..but hey..just a coincidence, right?

The fact you&#039;re still a spineless, ball-less, slapped on tool has been lost on no one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kush Says:<br />
August 8th, 2009 at 1:18 pm<br />
You’re an idiot. Kush and Kushman are two different names you dummy. You just proved that you actually can still only read kindergarten books. hahaha. </p>
<p>what an dummy you are.</p>
<p>===============================<br />
riiiiggghhht&#8230;<br />
Because they&#8217;re so many posters using the effiminent name &#8220;Kush&#8221;. Posters over there refer to you as &#8220;Kush&#8221;..so don&#8217;t even run that BS, little man.</p>
<p>Not to mention tht &#8220;Kushman&#8221;, on mvn, has commented about coming over to Jerry&#8217;s threads..but hey..just a coincidence, right?</p>
<p>The fact you&#8217;re still a spineless, ball-less, slapped on tool has been lost on no one.</p>
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		<title>By: kvnbntly</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Aug 2009 20:38:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>well real madden sounds like we got a chance at  the superbowl after all we did win our last game that guy is a comical genius
thanks agian just finished watching the end</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well real madden sounds like we got a chance at  the superbowl after all we did win our last game that guy is a comical genius<br />
thanks agian just finished watching the end</p>
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		<title>By: Kush</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kush</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Aug 2009 20:18:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re an idiot. Kush and Kushman are two different names you dummy. You just proved that you actually can still only read kindergarten books. hahaha. 

what an dummy you are.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re an idiot. Kush and Kushman are two different names you dummy. You just proved that you actually can still only read kindergarten books. hahaha. </p>
<p>what an dummy you are.</p>
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		<title>By: Richochet</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richochet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Aug 2009 20:17:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Real MaddenRaider Says: 
August 8th, 2009 at 12:29 pm 
Ricochet, thank you. I couldn’t have put it better. Oakglenn likes to argue your points with red herrings, he sort of changes the subject mid argument. It’s his style. Sometimes I just get tired of fighting with him, especially when he’s using his troll names like “douchebag”. But you responded exactly as I would have. Madden is never around Al Davis. Think about how much more he could defend Al than just making a speech at his HOF ceremony. Madden was asked to speak at that. Like he’s going to turn it down! And, furthermore, like he’s going to get up there and say, “if I wouldnt have started my own regime on the field and let Stabler call his own plays, and done things Al’s way? We never would have won”. Of course Madden is going to say kind things about Al when asked. Then Al’s kook aid drinkers quote Madden and act like Madden and Davis kick it everyday. Madden goes to Alameda once in a blue moon. He does not like Al Davis.
================================
What&#039;s also well known is if it wasn&#039;t for Al, Madden would have stay around a lot longer.

Madden also publicly resented Davis telling him which players to play, and overruling plays called in, and defensive schemes called.

Even as recently as Warren Sapp stating the same thing, regarding the defense working on a certain scheme, only to have Al veto it, sometimes on the Friday before a game, sending things into chaos.

Only a fool would publicly say something that they know would be instant headlines, and would stir the pot, big time.
Madden isn&#039;t a fool, and wisely gave the vanilla reply regarding Davis.
Even Gruden, who publicly insulted the hell out of Al when he wanted out, now realizes politically correct comments are the way to go, and resists all prods to get him to insult Al.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Real MaddenRaider Says:<br />
August 8th, 2009 at 12:29 pm<br />
Ricochet, thank you. I couldn’t have put it better. Oakglenn likes to argue your points with red herrings, he sort of changes the subject mid argument. It’s his style. Sometimes I just get tired of fighting with him, especially when he’s using his troll names like “douchebag”. But you responded exactly as I would have. Madden is never around Al Davis. Think about how much more he could defend Al than just making a speech at his HOF ceremony. Madden was asked to speak at that. Like he’s going to turn it down! And, furthermore, like he’s going to get up there and say, “if I wouldnt have started my own regime on the field and let Stabler call his own plays, and done things Al’s way? We never would have won”. Of course Madden is going to say kind things about Al when asked. Then Al’s kook aid drinkers quote Madden and act like Madden and Davis kick it everyday. Madden goes to Alameda once in a blue moon. He does not like Al Davis.<br />
================================<br />
What&#8217;s also well known is if it wasn&#8217;t for Al, Madden would have stay around a lot longer.</p>
<p>Madden also publicly resented Davis telling him which players to play, and overruling plays called in, and defensive schemes called.</p>
<p>Even as recently as Warren Sapp stating the same thing, regarding the defense working on a certain scheme, only to have Al veto it, sometimes on the Friday before a game, sending things into chaos.</p>
<p>Only a fool would publicly say something that they know would be instant headlines, and would stir the pot, big time.<br />
Madden isn&#8217;t a fool, and wisely gave the vanilla reply regarding Davis.<br />
Even Gruden, who publicly insulted the hell out of Al when he wanted out, now realizes politically correct comments are the way to go, and resists all prods to get him to insult Al.</p>
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