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Disconnect remains with WRs

By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Tuesday, August 11th, 2009 at 6:50 pm in Oakland Raiders.

News and notes from Tuesday’s second practice:

– If Tom Cable was hoping quarterbacks and receivers would get on the same page with the wide receivers after a shaky first practice, he failed to get his wish.

Wideouts were an afterthought both for JaMarcus Russell, who his coach said bore responsibility for timing issues in the first session, as well as Bruce Gradkowski and Charlie Frye, as the Raiders went through third down and red zone team sessions in shorts and shells.

The majority of the completed passes went to tight ends and running backs, with misfires and occasional drops going to wide recievers, virtually across the board.

– Neither safety Mike Mitchell nor Darrius Heyward-Bey participated in team sessions. Mitchell sat it out altogether after it looked as if he had a hamstring injury of undetermined severity near the end of the morning session. Cable will adress the availability of players Wednesday at a brief walkthrough, but don’t be surprised if Mitchell sits out the Dallas game.

Heyward-Bey was suited up and went through some drills, but was not involved in running pass routes against defenders in the team sessions.

– Before the final red zone session, Cable and Russell met for a talk in the middle of the field, with Cable appearing to do most of the talking. Each quarterback had an unsuccessful four-play series, and in the final round, Russell was skipped while Gradkowski and Frye each took one last series.

– Cable said Monday preparation for the Cowboys would consist mainly of working on things the Raiders would do this year, but it looked as if there was at least some rudimentary scout team working going on in the second session in getting ready for Dallas.

– The National Football Post is reporting the Raiders have shown some interest in free agent lineabacker Derrick Brooks, although “it was unknown what their level of interest is.”

Brooks, a player with Hall of Fame credentials, was exclusively a weak side linebacker in Tampa 2 defense throughout his career. The Raiders have what they believe to be their weak side linebacker for the next several years in Thomas Howard.

So it could be no more than the Raiders having their name floated as a possibility in order to get another team (like New Orleans) to react.

Besides, would Brooks want to change positions at this point in his career? If he did, and was moved to the strong side, economics say Ricky Brown, who received a high $1.7 million tender to prevent him from being a free agent, could dislodge Kirk Morrison in the middle.

Jon Alston the strong side starter last season after Brown was injured, is sidelined with plantar faciatis and Cable said he wanted to get a good look at rookie fourth-round pick Slade Norris against Dallas.

Morrison is in the final year of his contract and acknowledged Monday he was fighting for his job.

– I won’t be at the brief pre-game walkthrough Wednesday but should have access to a pool report and press update from Cable.

– More practice quick hits are available on my Twitter page.

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726 Responses to “Disconnect remains with WRs”

  1. 24 Says:

    Brien – If we run really hard…we can be the Raiders starting HB. You want to see if we can make the roster?

  2. Brien the General Says:

    # 24 Says:
    August 11th, 2009 at 6:47 pm

    Well the Vikings had 2 1,000 receivers in Cris Carter and Jake Reed so Moss had to start 3rd with those guys already producing. Once Moss proved to be dominant, it was over for Reed.
    ************************
    So let me get this straight, the vikes had 2 guys who proved themselves is regular season games and then when moss showed on the field he was dominant it was over for Reed? It is exactly what I’m saying man. DHB will eventually start but for now start those guys who helped the momentum that we pray is carrying over from last year

  3. Brien the General Says:

    24, Harvey Williams ran hard too. So did Gaston Green

  4. Raider75 Says:

    Raiders also interested in OLB Brooks?

    The New Orleans Saints appear to have company in their pursuit of free agent linebacker Derrick Brooks(notes).

    A league source has told National Football Post that the Oakland Raiders spoke to Brooks recently, but it’s unknown what their level of interest is for in the 11-time Pro Bowler, who has spent his whole 14-year career with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.

    Under new defensive coordinator John Marshall, the Raiders are letting Ricky Brown(notes) push veteran Kirk Morrison(notes) at middle linebacker. Thomas Howard(notes) is projected to be the starter on the weak side. On the strong side, a foot injury has sidelined Jon Alston(notes), giving rookie Slade Norris(notes) time with the first team.

    The Saints are looking for help after news broke that veteran Mark Simoneau(notes) will undergo surgery to repair a torn triceps. Simoneau missed all last season while recovering from back surgery.

  5. 24 Says:

    Brien – Exactly on the Harvey Williams thing haha. I don’t recall Gaston Green.

  6. Raider75 Says:

    Source: National Football Post

  7. 24 Says:

    Napolean Kaufman ran very hard but guess what…he produced. Charlie Garner also ran very hard and he produced as well.

  8. Brien the General Says:

    Damn Garner

  9. Brien the General Says:

    Raiders run game decreased when Garner came. Nap is the man

  10. Brien the General Says:

    Napolean Kaufman said Tim Brown was the best WR in 2001. Damn Fairy Rice. Nap is a real Raider. Too bad he got Jesus on me

  11. SaintKaufman Says:

    damn straight!

  12. Brien the General Says:

    Farglass(AFLAC) sucks and so does the support for him

  13. Kirk Says:

    Fargas ahead of McFadden and Bush?

    This really is the dumbest team in America.

  14. Brien the General Says:

    Garner use to trip over a blade of grass. He could catch like hell though

  15. Terrapin Says:

    ZMiller is much better than Olsen. It just feels good saying that. Great draft pick.

    Statistically beat Olsen out 2 years straight. If DHB turns out to be the truth (i.e. Branch redux, hopefully better), I suspect Miller will have a monster year.

  16. Brien the General Says:

    # Kirk Says:
    August 11th, 2009 at 7:00 pm

    Fargas ahead of McFadden and Bush?

    This really is the dumbest team in America.
    *******************************
    No dumn means you dont know better. I think we know better…….gasp

  17. Brien the General Says:

    I dont want a monster year from Miller. Tight ends that make the pro bowl usually have garbage at WR. I dont want Miller being a pro bowl TE. That will mean our WR suck

  18. Brien the General Says:

    dumb*

  19. lefty12 Says:

    don’t you so called geniuses understand that preseason depth charts are usually pretty close to the depth chart you ended the previous season with.then they start to play the games and the charts change.it’s Aug. 11 for g0d sakes.the season is over a month away!get a gripe.

  20. Brien the General Says:

    Well its time to roll out yall. Take care and just win

  21. Terrapin Says:

    Sooo I guess we had sucky WRs when Casper & Christensen were here?

  22. Brien the General Says:

    Lefty, yeah and that is a damn shame nonetheless. was dhb starting at the end of last year?

  23. Brien the General Says:

    Terp i said usually, not 100 pct of the time. Look at nowadays with teams. Guys like Gates,Gonzo and Alge Crumpler before he left atlanta.

  24. Brien the General Says:

    Anyhow……..its time to get plastered……..see ya guys

  25. lefty12 Says:

    Brien-you do know what pretty close means don’t you?

  26. Brien the General Says:

    And Terp you are talking about two totally different era when it comes to the tight end.

  27. Brien the General Says:

    Yeah lefty and close is very sad. i have a feeling close may mean close to sept 14th against the bolts and trust me we will lose if Farglass is getting 20 plus carries. 3 and outs all night

  28. Brien the General Says:

    Outro

  29. Nnamdi21 Says:

    Lets get pre season going shall we?

  30. lefty12 Says:

    Brien,i’d bet your yearly stash of purple Fargas doesn’t get 20 plus carries a game unless the others get injured.

  31. SaintKaufman Says:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IOdj5Ou-kvE

    fast forward to :45secs and go from there…

  32. Terrapin Says:

    The 1st preseason game is almost always a disappointment. The 1s barely play and the backups are playing against other scrubs. Mostly cuts get the PT.

  33. bombs4ya Says:

    mcfadden and bush should be a much better tandom than wheatley and kaufman. both dmc and bush are good receivers out the back-field.

    the receivers …..
    if javon’s comeback is for real i think jlh will be the odd man out as far as starting wr’s. you would have to think dhb is learning all three spots at wide-out. it could look like javon on one side schillens on the other and darius in he slot ,until he takes one of the starting positions. three big receivers with speed.(could pose serious problems) thus making z.miller the go to guy putting up todd christensen no’s. and a ticket to hawaii.

    dhb will have a very productive rec.
    his rookie campaign. having to go against our corners and being able to get seperation will pay huge dividens.he i think have the potential to be the best offensive player in this years draft.
    if he emerges as the season progesses look for schillens or walker on the inside.
    either way this can be a potent wr’s corps .

    man, if our offensive line gels early and blocks well
    i see us scoring 24 to 28 points a game ….. easy !

  34. 24 Says:

    SaintKaufman – Thank you. That video reminded me of why I love football so much. That was good stuff.

  35. 24 Says:

    My brother and father are Cowboys fans. I love watching these games. Its awesome that they play on Thanksgiving Day. We’re gonna have a great time.

  36. 24 Says:

    Having them also play on pre-season is such a bonus.

  37. hwnrdr Says:

    Ok, someone needs to re-light the fire under Russell and the receivers arses!!!

  38. 24 Says:

    Hwndr – Yes…with the talent surrounding Russell, hes really the key to the season. If he doesn’t come out sharp, this offense is in trouble.

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  40. 24 Says:

    Report: Pitino says he paid for abortion

    http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?id=4392828

    (crazy story)

  41. SaintKaufman Says:

    You’re welcome 24!

    This guys videos are pretty good. Check out the JLH/Miller vid….

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Fqe7jj0KrA&feature=channel

  42. bombs4ya Says:

    i think cables plan is to let the run game open up the pass attack to let russell find his rythem with the wr’s. as the season moves on the offense will open up . the line is ‘key ‘ if russell has time you have to think he’ll get the job done . the line play can determine if we go 8-8 or 10-6 .

    we are going to surprise …….
    count down to armegeddon.

  43. RogRaiderFan Says:

    dont get fool raider nation the haters have come out raiderhaters and raider “fans’ who talk bad about the raiders are the same thing russell has had a great camp -no comments from the haters one bad day and they have so many comments dont be fooled by fake fans

  44. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Rog, it’s camp. I don’t care if Russell had the best day of his career today. Check the standings and let me know if there’s one single win there yet. Considering the past 6 years, I’ll start getting my hopes up when we pass win 5. Heck, as I’ve stated earlier as well, I might even settle for a mere 3 straight wins, something that hasn’t happened since 2002, mind you. In the meantime, call me a “hater” all you want. I’m keeping it real.

  45. RogRaiderFan Says:

    maddenraider im talking to REAL fans im just being real

  46. DarthPirate Says:

    If there’s anything we learned in the Art Shell debacle, it’s that preseason games don’t mean squat.

    I just want to see the offense put up a good drive or two, or at least see decent protection from the O Line.

  47. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    I’m a real fan, Rog. I’ve probably been a fan before you were born. I’m just not an idiot like you wearing blinders.

  48. hwnrdr Says:

    I agree 24! Russell needs to be the man this year, or the Raiders will be set back a few more years…and no one wants to see that!

  49. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    And if the offense has two good drives and the o line looks good, in this preseason game, DP, remember, it doesn’t mean squat. Your words. When the homers are in here predicting Super Bowl in light of a solid outing Thursday, I’m going to refer them to your comment. Thanks for getting my back.

  50. Brien the General Says:

    Wow my people cattin off. Scared of a DUI tonight but yet wanna go to the Bar on Friday. LOL that is weird………….

    Anyhow lookey here. My arch nemesis MR is in the building

  51. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    I thought Brien’s name had 510 in it, too? I can find out really fast if you’re the real Brien.

  52. Brien the General Says:

    Super bowl aint happening yet until Cable shows us he isnt an idiot

  53. Brien the General Says:

    MR, for some reason Jerry took it off. I have no clue why but oh well

  54. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    7 step drop, B. All year.

  55. DarthPirate Says:

    ============================
    The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    August 11th, 2009 at 8:15 pm

    And if the offense has two good drives and the o line looks good, in this preseason game, DP, remember, it doesn’t mean squat. Your words. When the homers are in here predicting Super Bowl in light of a solid outing Thursday, I’m going to refer them to your comment. Thanks for getting my back.
    ===============================

    The outcome doesn’t means squat. If Russell doesn’t get laid on his butt by the starting cowboys DLine, that means something, I think.

  56. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Brien, 7 step drop baby, every down. Right?

  57. Brien the General Says:

    Anyway MR, this is a football blog and its hard to talk football with ya, but anyways went to the Rock the Bells concert on Sunday. Nas performance was what was happening

  58. Brien the General Says:

    3 step drop every pass play MR?

  59. Brien the General Says:

    MR we are dinking and dunking and I know that hurts your 49er spirit but this team cant do it. The QB’s skills arent conducive to it and I’m sure a genius like you understands

  60. Brien the General Says:

    Back to pass……..dink aint that right MR

  61. Norco Bob Says:

    brien!

  62. Brien the General Says:

    3rd and 13 from the opp 30……back to pass……dink then punt. It will help the QB rating

  63. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    LOL. Nice way to play the field, DP. You’re totally prepared for us stinking up the joint Thursday, so you got a little preemptive shot in with your recent comment, suggesting that pre season means nothing, even invoking Art Shell (there’s a great analogy for this year’s team. If half of what you guys say about Cable is true, we should be light years better than ‘06…), then when I bring up the prospect of us looking good on Thursday, and that I’ll refer to your comment up there when I’m trying to bring the kool aid guzzling homers, talking Super Bowl, down to earth, you come back and say, well, the score of the game doesn’t matter. But if our 1st squad looks good Thursday, you’re on the Super Bowl bandwagon, too. Can’t have it both ways. If we stink Thursday, show no signs of being disciplined and organized, it DOES mean something, and you know it.

  64. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Alright, you’re Brien. Either that or you’ve been studying your target well. I don’t mind a convincing troll. Like watching a good actor in a film.

  65. Brien the General Says:

    Sup wit ya Bob? Hey what the hell are you doing on here? Arent we the same person?

  66. Norco Bob Says:

    Yes,..dont you enjoy talking to yourself man?

  67. Brien the General Says:

    MR, you would know about characters since you are a film director script writer?

  68. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Is Dave coming to pick you guys up in the RV tonight?

  69. Brien the General Says:

    Bob I do. It brings me closer to home

  70. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    I’m not a film director script writer, Brien. I went to film school a decade ago.

  71. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Bob, Brien, have you guys talked to Dave? Is Dave mad? What’s he mad about today?

  72. DarthPirate Says:

    TMR, I’m trying to be positive either way. I hope we’ll be good, hell I’ll settle for 7-9. Logic would say that this team should be better than last year, but the Raiders aren’t logical.

    I try to find something positive no matter the outcome. There’s no point in being miserable over sports.

  73. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Dave’s mad. We can’t take the RV. Damn.

  74. Brien the General Says:

    # The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    August 11th, 2009 at 8:28 pm

    Is Dave coming to pick you guys up in the RV tonight?
    ****************
    This is called studying your target lol

    Come on sing it with me OBAMA OBAMA OBAMA OBAMA OBAMA OBAMA

  75. Norco Bob Says:

    Daves alright,…hey brien I will be there afterall,..gave away my 4 seats but Ralph giving me his extra,…try and make it man, we have big tailgate and dude cheap tix will be around, come down with us.

  76. destrilogy Says:

    I just reliezed that. If we can truly stop the run. then. we are going to be a AWESOME team because our run game is actually really really good the more i get thinking about it. Jamarcus just needs to do the occasional PA to miller and convert 3rd downs to miller and stretch the defense with a bomb to heyward bey or two.

    AFC WEST CHAMPIONS!!!!
    im sip sippin on the kool aid!!!!

  77. Brien the General Says:

    Dave is cool as hell. Prolly burning some Sac town hippy lettuce right now. Maybe if you hit some every now and then you would be a cool person

  78. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    You’re trying to be positive, which means you’re not optimistic, Death Pirate. You even invoked Shell, for crying out loud. If you can’t see the Freudian slip in your invoking Shell’s ‘06 preseason to insist this preseason means nothing, I sure did. For all of your forced optimism, you might think less of this team than even I do. I’m thinking 4 wins. If you’re seeing shades of Shell, you really can’t see the team winning more than 2. We’ll see.

  79. Brien the General Says:

    Bob, got somewhere to be that day. Good look though. I’ll be around come Sept 14th

  80. Brien the General Says:

    MR we will be 3-13 right

  81. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    A cool person? Oh, sorry, Brien. Sorry I’m not “cool”. Fonzi. Shouldn’t you be doing your homework now?

  82. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Brien, it didn’t take much studying to come up with the Dave thing. Norco Bob comes in every day, asks for Brien, then tells Brien that Dave’s mad and that the RV’s not available.

  83. Norco Bob Says:

    brien,…dont worry bout MR,..hes the same old miserable person, he cant change,…if he wants to come in here daily, actually hourly, and embarrass himself thats his bag.

  84. Brien the General Says:

    Many things have to go right for the team to win the division

    WE better pray Farglass doesnt start
    WE better pray Russell doesnt stink up the place
    WE better pray Cable isnt an idiot……again
    WE better pray the oline and dline are tougher
    WE better pray SD has some bad luck
    WE better pray Farglass doesnt start

  85. hwnrdr Says:

    Brien, I hope we’re not 3-13 come end of the season! But…

  86. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    WE better pray Al Davis gets thrown out of the league.

  87. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    That’s right, I’m jealous of you guys because I don’t go to games. You nailed it. Bye, Norco. Say hi to Dave, when he feels better

  88. RogRaiderFan Says:

    maddenraider your an idiot you talk about madden ive seen madden at raiders practice over the years wistanding nexto al smiling yes ive seen this with my own eyes nothing you say is taken seriously you make up stats to make yourselfef seem right but i got news no one is falling for your propaganda

  89. jhill Says:

    Opening night formation will be a two TE set with McFadden in the backfield, with DHB and Chaz on the outside.

  90. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Hwnrder, Cable saw Bush and DMac have to be the starters. But it doesn’t matter what he thinks.

  91. jhill Says:

    Hwnrdr, wassup man!

    Late night appearance?

  92. hwnrdr Says:

    Whats up JHill? I would say, what about Murphy, but he did get hurt again, right?

  93. jhill Says:

    LOL, MR …

    So you’re saying that Fargas will start b/c that’s what AD wants?

  94. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    rog, you’re acting way too hard right now. I’ll talk to you when you calm down, kiddo.

  95. hwnrdr Says:

    Yeah, one of those rare late night appearances!

  96. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    No, JHill, of course I didn’t say that Fargas will start b/c that’s what AD wants. AD makes no decisions here, whatsoever. He’s known for being the most trusting owner in the league with his coaches, and never meddling. So of course I didn’t say that, JHill. Duh.

  97. hwnrdr Says:

    I hear ya on that one, Brien!

  98. jhill Says:

    No, Murphy is just behind JLH, and possibly Walker when he gets back. We have A LOT of talent at this spot, so it’s going to be hard for him to see significant time.

    Definitely a good “problem” to have.

    I say trade one of these WRs for a 2nd rd pick in next years ridiculously deep draft.

  99. RaiderRon Says:

    I agree Al Davis is a senile old POS but to say he would prefer Fargas start over DMC is cuhhhhhrazzzzyy.

  100. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    John Goodman…LOL. It’s funny you bring him up. He was a better coach in Revenge of the Nerds than Cable is in real life.

  101. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    I don’t know what Al Davis wants, RaiderRon. But we’ll find out when the season starts. Because the starting lineup and the playcalling will be exactly what Davis wants. With a puppet like Cable at HC?

  102. RaiderRon Says:

    Ever stop and think that Fargas is just a better all around back than both Bush and DMC??

  103. jhill Says:

    I must say that is the first time I have heard that take!

    Fargas is starting b/c of AD, now I have really heard it all.

  104. RaiderRon Says:

    No doubt Cable is the ultimate puppett but I sure would think he would rather start a guy he drafted at number 4 than Fargas.

  105. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    That Cable drafted? Who did Cable draft? RaiderRon, you’re usually pretty smart. Did you smoke one earlier?

  106. jhill Says:

    Ok we have a full house with Ron in the house …

    This should be fun.

  107. hwnrdr Says:

    RaiderRon, that could be, but aren’t you tired of opening play call…Fargas up the middle for a yard!?

  108. hwnrdr Says:

    Ok…I know this happens in the AM, but wtf is this “you’re posting too fast” BS?

  109. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    OK, Brien, what viable 3rd party candidate, who has a chance of getting on the ballot, would you rather see president than Obama?

  110. Brien the General Says:

    # The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    August 11th, 2009 at 8:50 pm

    Brien, ducking the question? Out of people who have a chance of winning, who would you rather see president than Obama?
    *******************
    Come on MR. Try again. You know I’m not like the rest of these simpletons to get baited into a corner like that. Both McCain and Obama work for the same elite punks. It didnt make a difference. My damn name went in the space. I refuse to be duped

  111. jhill Says:

    F5 Hwnrdr … you might have to do it more than once.

  112. Raider Dell Says:

    Evening Maddenraider, what’s up.

  113. Raider Dell Says:

    Evening also to Brien,Jhill,Hwnrdr.

  114. hwnrdr Says:

    Yeah, I know…the last time I had to do it like 10 times…it just gets frustrating! I wonder if that is the mods way of controlling the blog?

  115. hwnrdr Says:

    Wassup Dell?! Any predictions for Thursday night?

  116. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    hwnrdr, what about when you reload the page and it says you already posted that comment, when you haven’t posted anything? I have to go back to the main Raider page and re click on this link. This site blows. The recession’s hit IBA hard. This blog runs like we’re in a depression.

  117. Raider Dell Says:

    Hwnrdr,

    I see your trying to comment in the evening, i usually read your comments in the mornin. The evening has a little more fight to the blog.

    I will be there, and the raiders should win. I am reading the Cowboys are only going to play their starters only for a series or two.

  118. hwnrdr Says:

    MR…I’ve gotten that too. I actually logged off and didn’t come back for a week or so.
    Dell, I know. Its been awhile since I posted in the PM.
    I actually sold my tickets for Thursday because I don’t have anyone that can watch the kids. But, I’ll be watching…

  119. Brien the General Says:

    Anyhow…….back to the Raiders

  120. Brien the General Says:

    The SD game is all that matters. If the team doesnt start 3-0 its over. If Farglass starts its over. If Warren stays as the primary NT it is damn sure over. If Kirk starts at MLB its over. Wake up people and stop being stupid. You know better

  121. Raider Dell Says:

    Hwnrdr

    I usually leave by the third quarter, most, not all of the players remaing will be cut or practice squad development players.
    It will be great to see some friends again, that we tailgate with.

    I guess the game will be taped delayed in the Bay Area, so you’ll see the game still.

  122. hwnrdr Says:

    Dell…where your seats at and where do you tailgate at? I’m always in D lot somewhere around the 6th or 7th row in. Also sec 130, rw 31…I’ll be there for the Saints game on the 29th!

  123. hwnrdr Says:

    Wow, many comments just got deleted…

  124. RaiderRon Says:

    Meant that Al drafted.

  125. RaiderRon Says:

    Ok Brien,

    If Fargas starts “were” in trouble. Why?

  126. Raider Dell Says:

    Hwnrdr

    I’m usually in the C lot, near the chain link fence on the freeway side. I have been meeting the same people for 10 years now.(Hegenburger side)

    My seats are in section 112, two sections over from the black hole.

  127. Raider Dell Says:

    Kush

    Did Ridoscheit ever get back to your question, regarding who his team is that he supports.

  128. HayesDaze37 Says:

    ***** WINNER: FUNNIEST POST OF THE DAY! *****

    Brientheprivate Says:

    No dumn means you dont know better. I think we know better…….gasp

    ———————

    That is one of the funniest things you’ve ever posted, Bri…you should turn it into a T-shirt!

    Man, it’s a great night to be a Raiders fan. Isn’t it?

  129. hwnrdr Says:

    Maybe one day we should meet up and have a beer, a shot, or whatever!!! First tailgate of the season in 18 days…cannot wait!

  130. HayesDaze37 Says:

    Tom Cable should put Mike Mitchell on the shelf right now…don’t even mess around.

    There’s another game next week — and I don’t want to “McFadden” the kid by playing him instead of healing first.

  131. Raider Dell Says:

    Raider O

    Where are you? man your turning into a family man, keep it up.

    Dakota you’ll read this in the mornin, signed up for the FFL, will wait for the draft and when the season starts, I will kick your behind.

    Note to Dakota, stay away from Westbrook, to many injurys.

  132. Raider O Says:

    Who’s talking politics on a Raider Blog?? lol

  133. hwnrdr Says:

    Haha Kush…Crab patty maybe crap of the draft if he sits out the whole year…

  134. Raider Dell Says:

    hayesdaze37
    You have been on fire the last week or so, man are you ready for the season.

    My favorite “HYPROCRITE ALERT”.

    Thanks for the laughter, it’s all good.

  135. Raider Dell Says:

    My english is terrible tonight, this lap top is too difficult to type using this small keyboard, plus I’m watching a movie.

  136. hwnrdr Says:

    All I know is this…
    We better have the best players on the field come 9-14 against the Bolts…btw: what happened to Charged Up, figure he’ll be here by now?
    I don’t care who it is…Cable better stick to his word! Some Kool-Aid from OAKlifer in the morning sounds relaly good right now!!!!

  137. HayesDaze37 Says:

    And…the “disconnect” between the QB’s and the WR’s is a common occurrence during the dog-days of training camp — even for veteran teams (especially?).

    Getting focused, and staying focused, at a high level is what camp’s supposed to prepare these guys to do.

    So far, Cable’s approach seems to be working, with many more positive reports than negative out of camp. Now, can he get ‘em tuned-in on Thursday?

  138. Kush Says:

    The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    August 11th, 2009 at 11:47 am

    Kush, this is not a blog for Raider fans or “Nation members”. This is a blog owned by InsideBayArea and operated by a journalist, completely independent of the Raiders. Comments sections are supposed to be on the topic of the current blog post.
    _________________________________________________________

    This comment gets the WTF??? award of the day.

    Maybe I’m crazy but I thought this blog was called ‘Inside The Oakland Raiders’ and it’s facilitated by Jerry Mcdonald who’s an NFL correspondent for The Oakland Raiders.rotflmfao.

    But apparently MR thinks that this blog is just about whatever the ‘topic of the day’ is. Has there ever been a topic on this blog that isn’t about something related to the Raiders???

    That’s why I can’t take nothing that dude says seriously.

  139. Raider O Says:

    Dell,

    My family is asking me to spend more time with you guys! lol

  140. lefty12 Says:

    Hwnrdr-i’m sure the players that are on the field will be the ones the staff thinks are the best,but they might not be the ones many on here think are the best.

  141. Raider Dell Says:

    Raider 0

    When school starts I would expect to see less of your comments in this blog, plus having a family is always challenging to find time to comment here also.

  142. hwnrdr Says:

    Lefty: I’m staying confident on that! I know that there’s always going to be a debate on here on who starts and who should. I just hope that the players on the field are going to push hard so that we can get out of this slump!
    Dell: I agree with you on that one. That is why I am hardly in here at night!

  143. HayesDaze37 Says:

    Dell — I salute you, Black n’ Silver n’ Blues Brother. Yes, I am ready for the season…for the past 5-months.

    I enjoy the HYPOCRITE ALERTS as much as anybody, too. They crack me up. We’ve all got at least a little hypocrite in us, but some got more than others, for sure.

    That funny post by Brientheprivate a little while ago could actually qualify as a HYPOCRITE ALERT, too, since he was criticizing intelligence…while misspelling the word DUMB!

    DUMN…Man, that’s just too funny.

  144. hwnrdr Says:

    Nights slowing down for now…time to sign off and say goodnight to you all, Nation!!!
    Got to get my coffee ready for the AM…
    Peace/Out!

  145. lefty12 Says:

    Kush-it’s funny.i’ve read many times where he has given people flak for being off topic-talking about something different than Jmacs topics.

  146. Raider Dell Says:

    Hayesdaze37.

    I know you and Brien go around and around, and that’s between you two. I’m glad to comment with Brien due to his passion for the Silver n’ Black. Brien is fun to read and holds nothing back.

  147. WESTRAIDER Says:

    we in trouble….SIGN VICK AND BROOKS

  148. Raider O Says:

    Dell,

    I have been posting less than before, and I will continue to do so.
    I’m going to start learning how to play the Guitar. I’ve been shopping for a few days now.

    There is much that I want to do, and not enough time or money.
    Like I said, Me and time have a race going on. Time is winning, but I’m catching up fast.

  149. Raider Dell Says:

    I haven’t read any comments from SNB666, or RaiderDogg when I’m on the blog. My six week vacation was memorable, I traveled to many blues concerts and had a great time.

    I was in New Mexico, what a show that was. I had some of the best tacos ever, and the crowd was great.

  150. lefty12 Says:

    the team is young and heading in the right direction.we don’t need a late 30 something LB and we sure as he11 don’t need M.Vick.players like JLH,Chaz,DHB,etc.,would be wasted with him.

  151. Raider Dell Says:

    Raider O

    I have been trying to play the guitar for years, it’s great to sit and string some notes together.

    May you find happiness in all of your time, besides you can always stay up later, forgo sleep.

  152. Raider Dell Says:

    This lap top battery is calling out for me to sign out, later Raider Men.

  153. HayesDaze37 Says:

    Dell — I agree with much of what Bri says…right up ’til he shows his true colors with the name-calling, etc, as soon as somebody disagrees with him. There’s a reason he’s been banned numerous times, and it has nothing to do with what’s gone on between he and I. But, he does get mad when someone doesn’t agree with him…to the point of testoso-meltdown. Those are the times that crack me up the most, probably.

    Raider on, Dell, I get where you’re coming from.

  154. lefty12 Says:

    Dell-who did you see in N.M.?was it in Albuquerque?

  155. Oakglenn Says:

    # Kush Says:
    August 11th, 2009 at 9:38 pm

    The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    August 11th, 2009 at 11:47 am

    Kush, this is not a blog for Raider fans or “Nation members”. This is a blog owned by InsideBayArea and operated by a journalist, completely independent of the Raiders. Comments sections are supposed to be on the topic of the current blog post.
    _________________________________________________________

    This comment gets the WTF??? award of the day.

    Maybe I’m crazy but I thought this blog was called ‘Inside The Oakland Raiders’ and it’s facilitated by Jerry Mcdonald who’s an NFL correspondent for The Oakland Raiders.rotflmfao.

    But apparently MR thinks that this blog is just about whatever the ‘topic of the day’ is. Has there ever been a topic on this blog that isn’t about something related to the Raiders???

    That’s why I can’t take nothing that dude says seriously.
    ———————————————–
    The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    August 11th, 2009 at 8:52 pm

    OK, Brien, what viable 3rd party candidate, who has a chance of getting on the ballot, would you rather see president than Obama?
    —————————————————–

    I don’t know Kush. Did you not see the Jerry MacDonald article about viable third party candidates in the next presidential election cycle??? Don’t worry. Neither did the rest of the known universe.

  156. Raider Dell Says:

    lefty

    I may lose this any time here goes, Animas River Blues Festival. I saw Shemekia copeland,Mem Shannon,Sugarhouse,Blues Wizard and the masters of humility and Edgar mac Blues band.
    Better submit………

  157. Raider O Says:

    Dell,

    Thank you sir, and the same for you.
    I have been sleeping less, but I don’t feel tired. I feel this energy in me that I haven’t felt since I was a kid.

  158. Raider O Says:

    Dell,

    I feel as if I’m reaching my OPtimal point of operation.

  159. Oakglenn Says:

    BTW, good to see you back here Dell. Maybe we can start getting some cogent Raider talk in here.

  160. Kush Says:

    Don’t ask me why, but I’m actually more optimistic about the defense right now than the offense.

    I think Marshall will have the defense in the top 20 this season.

    But I think Cable has a severe problem with just putting the most explosive players on the field. That depth chart with Fargas as the 1st string receiver is making my stomach churn.

  161. Raider O Says:

    O’s Depth Chart:

    RE: T Scott, Matt S
    DT: TK, Joseph
    DT: Warren, Bryant
    LE: Ellis, Jay
    WLB: TH, Alston
    MLB: Kirk, Euk
    SLB: Brown, Norris
    CB: Nnamdi, SR,
    CB: CJ, Miller
    FS: Branch, Huff,Eugene
    SS: Mitchell, Boyd

    QB: JR, Garcia, Frye
    RB: DMC, Bush, Fargas
    FB: OO, Reece
    TE:Miller, Stewart, Rookie
    WR: Chaz, DHB, JLH, Murphy, Walker
    LT: Mario, Pears
    G: Gallery, Johnson
    C: Satele, Wade
    G: Cooper, Paul
    RT: Barnes when health, Green

  162. jhill Says:

    Not bad O, just a couple changes …

    J’s Depth Chart:

    RE: T Scott, Matt S
    DT: TK, Joseph
    DT: Warren, Bryant
    LE: Ellis, Jay
    WLB: TH, Alston
    MLB: Kirk, Euk
    SLB: Brown, Norris
    CB: Nnamdi, CJ,
    CB: SR, Miller
    FS: Huff, Eugene
    SS: Branch, Mitchell

    QB: JR, Frye, Southwick
    RB: DMC, Bush, Fargas
    FB: OO, Neal
    TE:Miller, Stewart, Rookie
    WR: Chaz, DHB, JLH, Murphy, Walker
    LT: Mario, McQuistan
    G: Gallery, McQuistan
    C: Satele, Wade
    G: Cooper, Paul
    RT: Green (I see ya!), Pears

  163. Raider O Says:

    I like my depth Chart, Walker is the 5th WR on my chart, and Neal is Gone!

  164. jhill Says:

    Why do you want to get rid of Neal?

  165. Raider O Says:

    Jhill,

    I can live with that! lol

  166. Raider O Says:

    Jhill,

    I don’t want to cut Neal, but I want to see what Reece can do. I know he can catch, run, but can he block? If he can, then we need to cut Neal to keep Reece. We can’t have 3 FBs!

  167. DarkSide@RFN Says:

    Man, cannot live alone on bread…

    Go Raiders!

  168. lefty12 Says:

    Jhill-no Garcia-i like it!however,Eugene over Huff.Brown backing up Kirk,and SLB still undecided between Alston and Brown.also,flip sides with Matt and Jay and Barnes backing up Mario and Boothe instead of Wade.

  169. Raider O Says:

    Lefty,

    Can Boothe play C?

  170. lefty12 Says:

    it’s waaaaay to early,but i’m beginning to wonder if Mitchell isn’t being set up for the IR-like we did with Bush.not the same circumstances,but give him a full year to sit and learn while Huff is given one last chance.just food for thought.

  171. lefty12 Says:

    sorry,i meant Morris.sometimes it pays to think before you write.

  172. Raider O Says:

    Lefty,

    Mitchell doesn’t have a real injury, and he can learn more from being on the field. IMO I don’t think they will do that. He may not start at 1st, but he will play, and become the starter at some point.

  173. priesttj Says:

    I can’t wait to see this Desmond Bryant. Also Eugene, Mitchell and Branch give us a lot of versatility, I’ll include Huff if he includes himself.

    I have to believe that Garcia is pondering retirement. Cable is really pushing Russell which is good. He’s refusing to let him relax. And Russell is growing in leaps and bounds as a result of it. That problem of holding onto the ball is due to his not wanting to turn it over. There is a fine balance if in doubt check it down.

  174. Raider O Says:

    Let’s not forget, he is the hardest hitter on the team. Atleast according to Madden 10. lol

  175. priesttj Says:

    Lefty12, who’s Morris?

  176. lefty12 Says:

    O,as i said just food for thought.however,i think he’ll be more of a special teams player this year but it sure won’t bother me if he is good enough to win a starting job this season as that will mean we are getting better and that is my main concern.

  177. Raider O Says:

    BHP,

    I’m done with Huff ( the shadow king). If it wasn’t for the fact that he will cost us less being on the team, I would cut him.
    1 INT in 3 years!!! 1 Dude!!!!! He is a DB, not a DT!!!
    Sands has as many INTs as Huff in 3 Years!!!! 1 !!!!

  178. priesttj Says:

    Raider O, I think he made a mistake, he didn’t mean Mike Mitchell.

  179. Raider O Says:

    LMAO @ 175!!

  180. Raider O Says:

    6′1 220, runs a 4.4, angry, and likes to hit!!! Put him on the field. If he doesn’t hurt himself, he will hurt others.

    I love this kid. He tackled Murphy!!

  181. Raider O Says:

    I don’t think MM cares for INTs. He just wants to punish people!!

    This kid needs to be on the field. We need his attitude!

  182. priesttj Says:

    Raider O, I have to agree his aggressiveness makes us a very different defense. He may struggle early but that’s just par for the course. I have no problem with young players learning as long as they get better.

  183. lefty12 Says:

    Priest-Chris Morris-center-Michigan State.yes i did-M.Mitchell.i haven’t seen him play except for his highlite reels,which i usually question.but from what i’ve read his coverage has been lacking and he could learn on IR.i’m not saying i think it WILL happen,just that i could see it happen.we’ve seen stranger things happen with our team.

  184. The NEWS Says:

    Bush needs to start IMO, with Run DMC as our wildcard, change of pace back. Fargas, man this guy’s got heart and is tough, so I have a lot of respect for him but he goes down easy and goes down hard. Bush, on the other hand, makes them pay.

  185. Raider O Says:

    River throws, Chambers is going up to make the catch, and…. Boooom

    Mitchell knocks him out!

    The Nation Is yelling: Mike!!! Mike!!! Mike!!!

  186. Raider O Says:

    BHP,

    We are not a SB team now, so why not play the young guys?
    - we find out what we have.
    - they get exp, and learn more being on the field.

  187. lefty12 Says:

    Priest have you been to any practices yet?if so,have you noticed that kid Norris(LB) .i’m anxious to see him.he’s making the switch to lb from end so i wonder what his progress is.

  188. Raider O Says:

    I miss having that attitude on my team.
    Players like Regan Upshaw and Romo were fun to watch.

    What ever happened to upshaw? That dude hit so many players late, it was funny!

  189. priesttj Says:

    Yeah I read the same thing Left, but that’s just because he’s overly aggressive. He’ll learn and start to read the QB better, Branch is a better cover SS becuse he’s played corner. Same as Huff, Mike is a safety IMO will be better a FS eventually IMO.

    Eugene right now is the best FS we have but that could change with Mitchell here.

  190. priesttj Says:

    No Lefty12, They wont let me in anymore I think I pissed off the Dir. of Scouting. When I devulged some info on the radio when Lombardi was here (you can’t do that in this org.). But Lombardi and I got along good something happened and it’s not real clear to me. But hopefully things will get better.

    Hopefully!!

  191. lefty12 Says:

    don’t get me wrong,i want to see him succeed because when he does he will make the team better,even though i’ve read some really good things about Eugene.plus,it will be great when he proves all the so called experts wrong,although they will never acknowledge it unless he becomes all-pro and they can’t ignore it.

  192. CantstandtheHaters Says:

    this “wall” is really what matters Jerr, not the physical wall but the mental wall.

    watch this team click towards the end of camp, still four weeks away.

  193. lefty12 Says:

    i just find it really exciting that when you look at our roster how young it is-mostly 2-4 year players that will grow together.it looks like we are putting a team together that can put points on the board and put them up quick and our QB won’t have to be great,even though we all hope he is.if this Off. gets as good as many think it will,we will never be out of a game due to our quick strike ability.

  194. priesttj Says:

    Can’tstand, Russell is growing to read that he struggles putting it all toghether is expected. As long as he continues to improve. That is all that matters. Cable should continue to fry his as when he’s not right that’s his job. But he also knows Russel is much better than he was 6 months ago, and 6months from now he’ll be even better…………period

  195. lefty12 Says:

    btw,when i speak of “quick strike ability” i don’t necessarily mean bombs away.i’m talking about being able to pick Defs.apart and move down the field in short periods of time with many different weapons.hopefully it will happen sooner rather than later.

  196. Raider O Says:

    I expect great things from this team next year, and a flash of it this year.

  197. lefty12 Says:

    early start tomorrow so i’m out.later O,Priest,and any other Raider fan reading.

  198. Raider O Says:

    We have all the weapons on Offense, WRs, TE, RBs, but I’m not sure of the Oline.

  199. Raider O Says:

    Later Lefty.

    It’s getting late, so I’m done for the night.
    Have a great night Gents, and later Nation.

  200. CantstandtheHaters Says:

    # priesttj Says:
    August 11th, 2009 at 11:36 pm

    Can’tstand, Russell is growing to read that he struggles putting it all toghether is expected. As long as he continues to improve. That is all that matters. Cable should continue to fry his as when he’s not right that’s his job. But he also knows Russel is much better than he was 6 months ago, and 6months from now he’ll be even better…………period

    —-

    agreed. i expect them to struggle for couple of more sessions and then BOOOM! evrything will be routine all of a sudden. im glad we hit this “mental” wall tghis early in camp.

    also notice the difference between Kiffs PCs and coach Cables, how he gets his “constructive” criticism across to the media W/o the childish oneliners about a players performances about where they are lacking, always following them up in detail why he speaks up about a player leaving not much room for speculations on their part. i think thats why the media is not as negative as they used to be. they are being schooled in football 101 at the pressers and can see “the light” so to speak.

    TC was a blessing for this team.

  201. Copenhagen_Fan Says:

    We’re doomed

  202. 4evaRaider Says:

    Good Morning NATION!!!

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  204. 4evaRaider Says:

    lefty12 Says:
    August 11th, 2009 at 10:45 pm
    it’s waaaaay to early,but i’m beginning to wonder if Mitchell isn’t being set up for the IR-like we did with Bush.not the same circumstances,but give him a full year to sit and learn while Huff is given one last chance.just food for thought.

    *******************************************************

    could very well B Lefty

  205. 4evaRaider Says:

    I was wondering why we drafted him…Be good in red-zone D: Darrick Brown

    PERSONAL: All-district running back at Kentwood (Tangipahoa, La.) High School…Gained 2,200 yards in his career…State prep MVP twice in track…State champion in long jump, triple jump and high jump

  206. raidertbone Says:

    Good mornin’ crew (from the East Coast). I am ready for some football!

  207. 4evaRaider Says:

    aintKaufman Says:
    August 11th, 2009 at 7:16 pm
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IOdj5Ou-kvE

    fast forward to :45secs and go from there…
    ******************************************************

    Thankx SaintKaufman!!!
    That was Great,imo

  208. 4evaRaider Says:

    Morning tbone…

    Its a fine day 2B a Raider Fan!!!

  209. Copenhagen_Fan Says:

    Why pull a Bush on Mitchell and sit him???

  210. raidertbone Says:

    TBH, the roster for Week 1 preseason is really no surprise. I have a feeling that with Fargas in the backfield, we’ll see a combination of some power running early and see his ability to pass block while we try to give DHB a couple of deep balls. The fact that DHB starting is no surprise either, because he (of all people) needs a lot of game-speed action. They’ll probably pull Jamarcus after two offensive series.

    Remember people – this is only the starting roster for this week’s game!

  211. hwnrdr Says:

    Good Morning Nation!!!
    What’s up 4eva, Tbone, Copenhagen? Tomorrow is the night!!!

  212. NoMoreFargas Says:

    I just have nightmares thinking of fargas starting. NE cable waits till game is over to start giving dmac the rock. Jruss had to go to the staff and tell them we need to get dmac the ball! Please Mr. Davis people bitch when you step in but you have to let cable know get DMAC the ball and play BUSH!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  213. 4evaRaider Says:

    He may not B ready 4 the big leagues yet,Coenhagen_Fan

  214. 4evaRaider Says:

    Morning Hwnrdr,I bet you guys in Cali can feel it building!!!1 more day!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  215. raidertbone Says:

    I am wondering if they are going to put Bush in during the second half (when some of the Cowboys starters are out) and let him just run wild on their defense, like he did against the Bucs. Also, limited touches early for DMac may be a safety move, more than anything else. I don’t think Cable is an idiot — I just think he is being extra cautious in game-planning for the preseason.

  216. DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL Says:

    GOOD MORNING SPORT’S FAN’S. WHAT WOOD BE CONSIDERD A GOOD YEAR 4 THIS TEAM, 8-8 OR WINNING RECORD W/ WILD-CARD-PLAYOFF BIRTH ?

  217. hwnrdr Says:

    Yeah 4eva, The intensity is starting to build! I can’t make the game tomorrow, and I heard that its on a tape delay for tv…but, i’ll follow on nfl.com, or here.

  218. hwnrdr Says:

    DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL Says:
    August 12th, 2009 at 6:08 am
    GOOD MORNING SPORT’S FAN’S. WHAT WOOD BE CONSIDERD A GOOD YEAR 4 THIS TEAM, 8-8 OR WINNING RECORD W/ WILD-CARD-PLAYOFF BIRTH ?

    Good Morning Dirt Lot,
    I think 8-8. i believe that will also let Cable keep his job. But who am I? The Raiders is going to have to beat SD Monday Night!!!

  219. OAKlifer Says:

    Good Morning NATION!!!!!!!!!

    Bring on the Cowgirls!!!!!!!!1

  220. raidertbone Says:

    I think an early barometer, definitely, is the first 3 games; anything less than a 2-1 start and I think Cable will have to start sweating about his job. Beyond that, I think 8-8 is realistic and that 9-7 is optimistic; either one is attainable, but all depends on injuries, the run defense, and Jamarcus finally asserting himself as the leader of this team … oh, and no more fake field goals!

  221. 4evaRaider Says:

    take my kid 2 work…BBL NATION

  222. RaiderRockstar Says:

    interesting depth chart!

    Derrick Gray, Desmond Bryant & Ryan Boschetti are all competing at DT (not DE) for that 4th spot in the DT rotation. Sounds like Boschetti is the favorite, even though DMC knocked his block off in pass protection.

    Paul McQuistan & Chris Morris will compete for the backup LG spot.

    Mark Wilson & Marcus Johnson will compete for the backup RG spot.

    Funny thing is … GUARD is not the natural position for any of these guys!

    McQ, Wilson & Johnson are tackles & Morris is a C.

    I think Barnes is a lock, so Pears is the favorite to land that 4th tackle spot against Marten & Wand.

  223. raidertbone Says:

    I think you’ll see some mixing of the offensive line pieces, particularly during the second half of the game tomorrow night.

  224. RaiderRockstar Says:

    games are won & lost in the trenches … my prediction

    LT: Henderson, Barnes
    LG: Gallery, McQuistan
    C: Satele, Wade
    RG: Carlisle, Wilson
    RT: Green, Pears

    cuts – Morris, Johnson, Wand, Marten, Compas

    DE: Scott, Shaughnessy
    DT: Kelly, Joseph
    DT: Warren, Boschetti
    DE: Ellis, Richardson

    cuts – Sands, Gray, Bryant, Gunheim (unfortunately)

  225. hwnrdr Says:

    Good Morning Rockstar!
    T-bone: …and no more 76 yard tries, either! oh wait, that was who again?

  226. OAKlifer Says:

    DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL Says:
    August 12th, 2009 at 6:08 am
    GOOD MORNING SPORT’S FAN’S. WHAT WOOD BE CONSIDERD A GOOD YEAR 4 THIS TEAM, 8-8 OR WINNING RECORD W/ WILD-CARD-PLAYOFF BIRTH ?

    **************************************

    8-8 would be leaps and bounds from the last few (6) years but we all know we want that 10-6 Division Winners to be chatting about this time next year!!!

  227. OAKlifer Says:

    Morning Double R,

    cuts – Sands, Gray, Bryant, Gunheim (unfortunately)

    Harsh list to be on Sands needs tyo go but also needs replaced!! and I know your with me on this but I hope Gunheim gets a real shot at making this team!!!!

    hwnrdr, raidertbone

    You guys get the FFL invite???

  228. RaiderTW Says:

    4eva, RR, raidertbone, mornin’ Nation! I’m fine with Fargas starting in preseason so he gets his annual “season ending injury” done with early so DMc & Bush can mop up the rest of the year. Yeah!!

  229. RaiderRockstar Says:

    actually, Mark Wilson has been banged up during camp and you can’t make a positive impression by sitting on the bench… maybe that roster spot will go to Chris Morris (again)

    I like that Gunheim kid a lot. I hope they give him a shot, but he might not make it based on how many LB’s, DB’s & WR’s Cable wants to keep

  230. OAKlifer Says:

    so he gets his annual “season ending injury”

    **************

    I thought it was his annual~
    ” ohh it hurts just bad enought to where I can still play but be only productive in passblocking but im tough so i should be on the field @ 75%”

  231. RaiderRockstar Says:

    good morning Dirt Lot, Hwnrdr, OAKlifer, 4eva …

  232. RaiderRockstar Says:

    good morning TW, Tbone, NMF, Copen …

  233. treyrockstarespn Says:

    Wakey wakey eggs and bakey treys groupies

  234. RaiderTW Says:

    OAKlifer, im tough so i should be on the field @ 75%”
    haha, right, & the fans suffer! I just don’t want to see him bouncing off the back of his teammates blocking for him anymore. That sh!ts embarrassing, not enough strength to bust thru a block & not enough vision to go around your own offensive line!!!

  235. hwnrdr Says:

    Good Morning OAK,
    The FFL invite? No, can’t say that I have…

    I thought it was his annual~
    ” ohh it hurts just bad enought to where I can still play but be only productive in passblocking but im tough so i should be on the field @ 75%”

    …but that is some funny stuff!

  236. treyrockstarespn Says:

    I liked when fargas pulled his groin, wouldn’t you agree oaklifer

  237. RaiderTW Says:

    I hate it when Fargas pulls OUR groin!!!

  238. RaiderRockstar Says:

    whats up Trey?

    how you doing man? I saw that Adrian Peterson commercial while watching NFL Live on DVR. Now I know the one you’re always talking about & drooling over …

    Mike Hill replaced you last night. whats up with that?!?

    He did a nice job too

  239. raidertbone Says:

    Like several of you, I really like Gunheim also. Compas may be on the way out, and I don’t see Marten going anywhere. Sands — not just yet … we just have to hope (I was SOOOOOOOOO hoping that B.J. Raji was going to be there this year!).

  240. treyrockstarespn Says:

    Hey rr Found this on the web think you might like it:
    http://images.dailyradar.com/media/uploads/ballhype/photos_large/2008/09/18/adrian-peterson-02_.jpg

  241. raidertbone Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    August 12th, 2009 at 6:41 am

    whats up Trey?

    how you doing man? I saw that Adrian Peterson commercial while watching NFL Live on DVR. Now I know the one you’re always talking about & drooling over …

    _______________________________________________
    If you look closely at that NFL commercial, you’ll notice (in the background) that Adrian Peterson is actually running away from all the Brett Favre papparazzi!

  242. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Found this on the web think you might like it

    ***

    Why? I’m not a woman or even a Vikings fan …

    you’ve really lost it Trey. Did ESPN make you take a unpaid LOA?

  243. treyrockstarespn Says:

    Yeah rr, I’m actually a “prime time”( if you will) kinda guy!

  244. raidertbone Says:

    I just saw the pic. Maybe Adrian Peterson is getting ready to release a rap CD (that’s how they usually look!)

  245. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Tbone: so if we were to keep Gunheim, Marten & Sands on the 53 man roster, who would they replace?

  246. treyrockstarespn Says:

    Let’s face it rr you got a little hard…..speaking of hard mike Mitchell may not play on Thursday nights preseason opener!

  247. raidertbone Says:

    ENOUGH ABOUT PETERSON! Has anyone got an update on our boy Danny Southwick? There seems to be lots of buzz in the NFL about signing “interns” to play quarterback!

  248. RaiderRockstar Says:

    I’m actually a “prime time”( if you will) kinda guy!

    ***

    quick. somebody post a pic of a half naked Deion Sanders for Trey!

    haha. j/k ole buddy ole pal

  249. treyrockstarespn Says:

    Oaklifer? Haven’t posted in a while still looking at the pic?

  250. RaiderRockstar Says:

    speaking of hard mike Mitchell may not play on Thursday nights preseason opener!

    ***

    Trey: Mike Mitchell makes you hard?

  251. OAKlifer Says:

    treyrockstarespn Says:
    August 12th, 2009 at 6:49 am
    Oaklifer? Haven’t posted in a while still looking at the pic?

    ********************

    IT Prob solved now!!!!!!

    How you been ol buddy did you have “family” buisness last nite I too like Double R noticed you were replaced!!! who going to kick mark in the nutz for me when ur not there????

  252. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Has anyone got an update on our boy Danny Southwick? There seems to be lots of buzz in the NFL about signing “interns” to play quarterback!

    ***

    With the contract signed by quarterback/coaching intern Matt Nagy voided by the league office and Kevin Kolb still fresh from a knee injury, the Eagles have signed former Temple quarterback Adam DiMichele.

    DiMichele was signed in May 2009 after attending a rookie minicamp on a tryout basis. He was released on June 11.

    Meanwhile, we’re hearing that Nagy’s AFL contract indeed kept him from joining the team, not the fact that the Eagles had him in camp as, in essence, an 81st player on the roster.

    Nagy, we’re told, is still under contract with the Columbus Destroyers. Apparently, the franchise asserted the claim, even though the AFL is now defunct.

    Nagy had an opportunity in August 2008 to opt out of his AFL contract, but apparently didn’t.

    -PFT

  253. treyrockstarespn Says:

    No need double r
    http://i.a.cnn.net/si/2006/sioncampus/06/05/hot.not/deion.jpg

  254. OAKlifer Says:

    hwnrdr Says:
    August 12th, 2009 at 6:37 am
    Good Morning OAK,
    The FFL invite? No, can’t say that I have…

    ***********************************************

    TW, Tbone, hwnrdr,

    here is the name and password and a link but the link sucks may work for you tho!!!

    http://football.fantasysports.yahoo.com/f1/528978

    JerryMacskidz (ID# 528978)
    PW: ONENATION

    we already have like 7 of us in there room for 7 more!!!should be fun!!!!

  255. RaiderRockstar Says:

    noticed you were replaced!!! who going to kick mark in the nutz for me when ur not there????

    ***

    Marko was replaced too!

    by Darren Woodson last night.

  256. raidertbone Says:

    # RaiderRockstar Says:
    August 12th, 2009 at 6:47 am

    Tbone: so if we were to keep Gunheim, Marten & Sands on the 53 man roster, who would they replace?

    ______________________________________

    Bayes, Compas, Foschi

  257. CantstandtheHaters Says:

    its gonna be great to see the new guys move in an NFL game for the first time. Nessy, Bryant, DHB, Murph, Slade, Dixon, Miller-Lite, MM, vets like Pears, M Johnson, the ONeal-bros, Frye, Bosch… cant wait!

    and NMF(and everyone else wanting the end of JF). one more year bro, give it one more year. this team is not expected to make the big run this year although everybody has a chance to have a breakout-season in this league. but one more year of Fargas taking away some hits from our youngsters is the wAY to go IMO, while in the meantime we try to find answers to our other questions. i bet you having Fargas probably added two-three more years to DMCs and MBushes overall careers dont you think? we couldnt have given MBush the time to heal when he came in hurt dont you think? DMC had problems staying healthy regardless.

    i for one love the “oldschool” approach, patience displayed here by the Raiders.

    what im trying to say is, fastforward two years from now, and these guys will be fresh and healthy as an ox by the time our QB and the rest of the team is ready, in their prime too if nothing bad happens.

    everything is about Russells developement for the next couple of years. so IMO that RB group can dink and donk along. once JR is ready and time flushes out those vets, todays back-ups will become the vets. and they should, will be ready to step up mentally AND physically by then.

    think longterm . as AD and others around him stated, there is a longterm plan in effect here ever since we took Russell…the ol’ fox is taking a shot of becoming a Dynasty, folks! dont you guys see this?

  258. treyrockstarespn Says:

    Come on groupies we all know Tuesday nights are not Trey nights, besides I’m moving on to more important segments: mike & mike & Trey
    or maybe pti: Trey edition
    or maybe otl: Trey = the t
    just throwing some names up but you get the picture

  259. OAKlifer Says:

    Derrick Brooks could be of use as a LB/coach Im not sure he would have the Lerenzo affect in on the team but he knows his stuff……but isnt he from a traditional zone coverage scheme we have like 3 zone play in our D playbook!!!!!!

  260. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Jon Runyan gets clearance to run

    Posted by Mike Florio (PFT)

    Tackle Jon Runyan, a grizzled veteran who has started every game the Eagles have played since 2000, has received clearance to run on his surgically-repaired knee, according to Sal Paolantonio of ESPN.

    “I’m cleared to do everything, except hit people,” Runyan told Paolantonio. “And I’ll be able to do that in about two weeks.”

    ***

    sign him Al !!!

  261. hwnrdr Says:

    Hey Rockstar, where’s Gabrielle?
    Thanks for the link OAK…unfortunately I cannot open it here at work…

  262. CJ Legend 34 Says:

    What the heck is wrong with this blog!

  263. treyrockstarespn Says:

    Oh and chris berman is teaching me how to say raiders the way he says it ;)

  264. OAKlifer Says:

    CantstandtheHaters Says:
    August 12th, 2009 at 7:00 am
    ***********************************

    nice post bro!!!

  265. OAKlifer Says:

    Thanks for the link OAK…unfortunately I cannot open it here at work…
    ********************

    Just regular yahoo public leauge try to go into it that way using the name and password either way you should give it a shot at home!!!

  266. treyrockstarespn Says:

    BJ Legend 34 Says:
    August 12th, 2009 at 7:02 am
    What the heck is wrong with this blog!
    **************
    **************
    your hear that’s what’s wrong

  267. treyrockstarespn Says:

    BJ Legend 34 Says:
    August 12th, 2009 at 7:02 am
    What the heck is wrong with this blog!
    **************
    **************
    your here that’s what’s wrong

  268. raidertbone Says:

    CSTH:
    I am right on board with you. What we had did not require a quick-fix. First, we had to get Kiffi the pretender out (which we did); second, we needed to promote an old-school guy (which we did); third, we needed to have a different approach to training camp, maximizing fundamentals and minimizing injuries (which we did), while at the same time getting rid of a cancerous free-agent-to-be (which we did). Finally, we had to answer the quarterback question (which I think has been done now). Now, we are primed to make a run at the division, and our timing could not have been better! Now, let’s see how the pieces fall into place.

  269. RaiderRockstar Says:

    I like Derrick Brooks, both as a player & person, but I don’t think he fits here.

    The Saints worked him out and gave him a physical after losing LB Mark Simineau. I think he’ll sign there and look forward to playing against the Bucs twice this year

    locks at LB: Morrison, Howard, Brown, Alston, Norris, Ekejiuba

    Condo is also a LS/LB … and I don’t see us keeping 8 LB’s on the roster unless Sam Williams makes it by scholarship alone

  270. CJ Legend 34 Says:

    ************Hey Jerry!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!**********

    Why do I keep getting slow down messages deleting my posts even though I only submit my comments once, hiting th ebutton rrrrreal ssssllloowwww?

    Jerry fix this crap for crying out loud!!!!!!!

  271. treyrockstarespn Says:

    Anyone see the bald guys on the broncos?

  272. OAKlifer Says:

    and I don’t see us keeping 8 LB’s on the roster unless Sam Williams makes it by scholarship alone

    LOL which will prob happen!!!

  273. 4evaRaider Says:

    CantstandtheHaters Says:
    August 12th, 2009 at 7:00 am
    its gonna be great to see the new guys move in an NFL game for the first time. Nessy, Bryant, DHB, Murph, Slade, Dixon, Miller-Lite, MM, vets like Pears, M Johnson, the ONeal-bros, Frye, Bosch… cant wait!

    and NMF(and everyone else wanting the end of JF). one more year bro, give it one more year. this team is not expected to make the big run this year although everybody has a chance to have a breakout-season in this league. but one more year of Fargas taking away some hits from our youngsters is the wAY to go IMO, while in the meantime we try to find answers to our other questions. i bet you having Fargas probably added two-three more years to DMCs and MBushes overall careers dont you think? we couldnt have given MBush the time to heal when he came in hurt dont you think? DMC had problems staying healthy regardless.

    i for one love the “oldschool” approach, patience displayed here by the Raiders.

    what im trying to say is, fastforward two years from now, and these guys will be fresh and healthy as an ox by the time our QB and the rest of the team is ready, in their prime too if nothing bad happens.

    everything is about Russells developement for the next couple of years. so IMO that RB group can dink and donk along. once JR is ready and time flushes out those vets, todays back-ups will become the vets. and they should, will be ready to step up mentally AND physically by then.

    think longterm . as AD and others around him stated, there is a longterm plan in effect here ever since we took Russell…the ol’ fox is taking a shot of becoming a Dynasty, folks! dont you guys see this?
    ******************************************************

    Yep

  274. Kirk Says:

    The Raiders will be ok is they do two things.

    Start Michael Bush and blitz.

  275. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Hey Rockstar, where’s Gabrielle?

    ***

    Gabrielle Union?

    hopefully at my place waiting for me to get home!

    j/k. I’m married and I know you’re talking about our waitress Gabby.

    Gabby! get these fellas some coffee please. put it on my tab!

    I thought Trey was going to pay for breakfast coming in here talking about eggs & bacon this morning, but I guess not. cheap b@stard!

  276. treyrockstarespn Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    August 12th, 2009 at 7:07 am
    I like Derrick Brooks, both as a player & person, but I don’t think he fits here.
    *************
    oh really rr, is this because he doesn’t run a 4.3 40?

  277. RaiderTW Says:

    Trey: Mike Mitchell makes you hard?
    ————
    Hey, that could be his nickname:
    Mike’s Hard Lemonaide, squeezes WRs until they’re juice.

  278. RaiderRockstar Says:

    good morning Kirk, CJ, CSTH …

  279. CJ Legend 34 Says:

    treyrockstarespn Says:
    August 12th, 2009 at 7:06 am
    BJ Legend 34 Says:
    August 12th, 2009 at 7:02 am
    What the heck is wrong with this blog!
    **************
    **************
    your here that’s what’s wrong

    —————————————-
    When did you say summer vacation was over so you can take your donkey loving @$$ back to grade school?

  280. RaiderRockstar Says:

    is this because he doesn’t run a 4.3 40?

    ***

    LOL. good point Trey. that could be part of the reason too!

  281. OAKlifer Says:

    CantstandtheHaters,CJ Legend 34

    You guys down for our FFL????

  282. raidertbone Says:

    # treyrockstarespn Says:
    August 12th, 2009 at 7:08 am

    Anyone see the bald guys on the broncos?

    ___________________________________

    Hey, if you want to see something even MORE embarrassing, go to the Broncos website – they have a section called “Broncos Country” which shows off pictures of their fans. There is one photo in particular of these guys who call themselves “Tha Horsemen” … DONKEYS!

  283. CJ Legend 34 Says:

    Raider Rockstar good morning bro!

  284. OAKlifer Says:

    I thought Trey was going to pay for breakfast coming in here talking about eggs & bacon this morning, but I guess not. cheap b@stard!

    *******************************

    And he makes more than two or threee of us together I know Bspn is handing out the CASH!!!!

  285. CJ Legend 34 Says:

    I would not count on Brooks being a Raider. I think he fits in better with the Saints D than our D. We need guys that are jelling together that we can see two-three years from now playing in their prime.

  286. CantstandtheHaters Says:

    excatly Tbone. the plan is there regardless of what happens along the way. otherwise the boss wouldnt say he wants two more rings AND M Vick would be in town two month ago

  287. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Colt Brennan made a bet with the Redskins DB’s that they couldn’t pick him off during thier entire training camp. He finally threw a pick on Day 13 and it cost him $100

    ***

    good thing JaMarcus Russell didn’t make a bet like that! Nnamdi would be jumping everything in sight …

  288. raidertbone Says:

    If Trey’s got all that jack, maybe it’s because he is making a guest appearance on Adrian Peterson’s new rap album (just kidding about the album) — but I know he is feelin’ the love!

  289. OAKlifer Says:

    the plan is there regardless of what happens along the way. otherwise the boss wouldnt say he wants two more rings AND M Vick would be in town two month ago
    ************

    Along with T.O. and whoever else!!!!

  290. raidertbone Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    August 12th, 2009 at 7:19 am

    Colt Brennan made a bet with the Redskins DB’s that they couldn’t pick him off during thier entire training camp. He finally threw a pick on Day 13 and it cost him $100
    ____________________________

    It’s horrible what back-up QBs will do sometimes just to make themselves appear relevant!

  291. CantstandtheHaters Says:

    OAK, i have never played FF bro. but i try if you guys dont mind a rook constantly asking questions lol

  292. hwnrdr Says:

    Colt Brennan is getting his confidence back. That is good considering that he lost it at the Sugar Bowl that year!
    Sorry guys, he played for my home team…and didn’t get drafted by any of our rivals, so i wish him well!

  293. CJ Legend 34 Says:

    ExOAKlifer Says:
    August 12th, 2009 at 7:15 am
    CantstandtheHaters,CJ Legend 34

    You guys down for our FFL????
    ———————————————
    Excuse my ignorance but what is the FFL?

  294. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Morrison is in the final year of his contract and acknowledged Monday he was fighting for his job.

    ***

    Brown & Alston only signed 1 year deals this offseason too. Has Howard got 1 more year after this or is this his final year as well? Next offseason should be interesting. These guys know that Al Davis isn’t afraid to pay big bucks for bigtime players. This might be especially delightful for Morrison, who grew up in Oakland as a huge Raiders fan, along with his dad. Somebody has to step up & deliver. We’ll find out who wants it more!

  295. CJ Legend 34 Says:

    Raider Rockstar

    If I recall you are a Michael Huff fan. Once again tell me why we should keep this guy around? I just can’t see it.

  296. OAKlifer Says:

    Excuse my ignorance but what is the FFL?
    ********

    Fantasy football leauge for the blog…

    OAK, i have never played FF bro. but i try if you guys dont mind a rook constantly asking questions lol

    ************8
    We have another rook in there to its all good bro its a user friendly system with yahoo!!! lets roll!!!

  297. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    Can Derrick Brooks play DT?

  298. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Colt Brennan was a player at Hawaii. He’s a fan favorite in Washington DC too.

    what a bargain in Round 6!

  299. CantstandtheHaters Says:

    link me up, Oak.

  300. RaiderRockstar Says:

    If I recall you are a Michael Huff fan. Once again tell me why we should keep this guy around? I just can’t see it.

    ***

    we’re keeping 2 FS on the roster. Huff & Eugene. they are splitting all the 1st team reps. whats the big deal?

    look at the depth chart. Mitchell, Branch & Boyd are all competing at SS … just as i’ve been saying since the draft

  301. OAKlifer Says:

    If I recall you are a Michael Huff fan. Once again tell me why we should keep this guy around? I just can’t see it.

    *********************If I may just my two cents…..

    First of all he is a 7th over all pick in his first salary deal here….he got paid

    Second We have little to no proven talent or vet leadership in the 2 saftey spots and if “The M Word” Mitchell is having hammy probs that dsnt boad well for us to count on him…So by process of eliminaton he stays at least thro this year untill we can replace him or who knows maybe with the support of a New D coord along with a offense that wont be going 3 and out every other series he will have plenty of help this year to rebound!!! If not then so be it he is gone but not now when we need depth and he is realitvly cheap and familiar with our HOUSE!!!

  302. Raider Dell Says:

    Good mornin RAIDER MEN!!!!!!! Oaklifer,RRS,BSJ,CJ,CSTH,Raidertbone,Hwnrdr,Dakota, and others.

    I’m in early, will take a day off tomorrow, to go to the game. I’m looking for some interesting football to be played, with the guys we have spliced and diced all off season.

    Where is my coffee!! This machine is taking to long, I need my coffee.

    So this is what it’s like in the mornin, “wow” maybe I should change my schedule, actual Raider comments.

  303. treyrockstarespn Says:

    http://rodonline.typepad.com/rodonline/images/2008/09/07/2008_09_07_adrian_peterson.jpg

  304. OAKlifer Says:

    CantstandtheHaters Says:
    August 12th, 2009 at 7:33 am
    link me up, Oak.

    ************************

    http://football.fantasysports.yahoo.com/f1/528978/teams

    JerryMacskidz (ID# 528978)
    PW: ONENATION

    Link may or may not work if not just join custom league on yahoo and use the name and Password!!

  305. Copenhagen_Fan Says:

    Let’s just blitz and throw the bomb….and POUND it on the ground and see what happens.

  306. hwnrdr Says:

    Yeah, he wouldn’t have dropped that far if it wasn’t for the Sugar Bowl that year. If we didn’t draft Russell 1rst overall the year before, I would have loved to have him in S&B!!! But…at least he made a roster spot, unlike Timmy Chang years before him. if I’m not mistaken, I believe he’s the first UH QB to be drafted and signed on with an NFL team in ages…that does say something!

  307. hwnrdr Says:

    Whats up Dell,
    i’m here during my regular time…Lol
    Where’s JHill?

  308. Copenhagen_Fan Says:

    Have you guys noticed that the Media is not dogging us as much these days??

    They have good things to say about Chaz, McFadden, Bush. Even DHB is getting a bit of credit once he stopped dropping the rock in practice.

  309. Raider Dell Says:

    Hwnrdr

    Please remember to let everyone know that Fargas new nick is AFLAC, thanks.

  310. RaiderRockstar Says:

    good morning Dell, BSJ …

  311. OAKlifer Says:

    Raider Dell Says:
    August 12th, 2009 at 7:36 am
    Good mornin RAIDER MEN!!!!!!! Oaklifer,RRS,BSJ,CJ,CSTH,Raidertbone,Hwnrdr,Dakota, and others.

    So this is what it’s like in the mornin, “wow” maybe I should change my schedule, actual Raider comments.

    ******************

    GABBY!!!! get Dell a cup of coffe and a menu stat!!!

    “thats our waitress”

    And yup at about 9 or 10 PST the few trolls come in usally MR or Beech Trey amusses us some mornings but other than that its Raider football Brethran and your always welcome on the AM crew!!! GABBYYY!!!!! damn it hurry it up!!!! Oh and the Laker talk and ploitics and O tryn to get it legalized but for the most part its all Raiders All the time with us!!! (and me pushing the FFL leauge) Which your already in good work!!!!

  312. Raider Dell Says:

    Where is Raider O? I told him to forgo sleep. Some youngsters never listen.

  313. OAKlifer Says:

    FOR THE RECORD!!!

    COLT BRENNAN IS A STUD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    I watched him alot last year he dominated every game but the bowl!!!!!!

  314. 4evaRaider Says:

    Hwnrdr,I 2 had my eye on Brennen.Man that kid lit it up.I think he is a huge steal 4 the 6th round.I’m also very thank-full we dont have 2 face him twice a year,but if we did,I;d be all 4 throwing him the knock-out punch =)

  315. hwnrdr Says:

    AFLAC? That’s funny. Now everytime I see Fargas…haha!

  316. hwnrdr Says:

    Yup! Like I said, I’m glad he didn’t go to any of our rivals…but, Washington does come here this season. If anything happens to Campbell…

  317. Raider Dell Says:

    I know some of you guys have commented on who will deserve the roster spots on the final 53. Let me caution you that injurys will have the final outcome and position needs. With that caveat, I will give you mine after the New Orleans game.

  318. 4evaRaider Says:

    Copenhagen,

    The mediot vultures are circling every team 4 now,if Jmac falters,they will B feasting,imo

  319. RaiderTW Says:

    Mornin’ Dell,
    So this is what it’s like in the mornin, “wow” maybe I should change my schedule, actual Raider comments.
    ————–
    Jokes, coffee, weird news and much much more…
    Fish falls from sky and shatters woman’s windshield
    Leighann Niles, 35, was driving her 2004 Toyota Matrix when a bald eagle flew over her vehicle and dropped a moderate-sized freshwater drum, or sheepshead, from about 40 feet onto her windshield, shattering the glass.

  320. Raider Dell Says:

    Raider TW

    Was the fish edible? Really, did she stop and cook the fish. That would have been the best end to the story.

    Did you see my comment on Fargas, as is his new nick is AFLAC.

  321. hwnrdr Says:

    Wow…what did that eagle eat? A batterry?

  322. 4evaRaider Says:

    Sheepshead is EXCELLENT table fare,just boney so you need at least 2 big ones if you eat fish like me =)

  323. treyrockstarespn Says:

    Why doesn’t this blog let me post?

  324. hwnrdr Says:

    Oops…sorry! I should have checked my brain and comprehended that he dropped a fish. oh well, I was thinking that if a bird poop can do that…

  325. RaiderRockstar Says:

    I know some of you guys have commented on who will deserve the roster spots on the final 53. Let me caution you that injurys will have the final outcome and position needs. With that caveat, I will give you mine after the New Orleans game.

    ***

    come on Dell, live a little!

    take a walk on the wild side. give us your final depth chart predictions for the lines at least (barring injury of course)

  326. OAKlifer Says:

    Why doesn’t this blog let me post?

    its not a BSPN blog sorry bro….

  327. OAKlifer Says:

    ohhh opps…. key stroke error again ..uhhummmhuh!! I meant “e”spn

  328. RaiderTW Says:

    Dell, I think she had forced sushi!!lol

  329. Raider Dell Says:

    I believe the following Raider players have been the most commented on in this blog per the last 9 months.

    Fargas, Huff, Kelly, Sands,Burgess, Jamarcus,Henderson Bush,Chaz,Walker Morrisson,Nnamdi,Routt, JLH, Miller.

    A few or slighly more but not much, Gallery Satele,Johnson,Scott,Gunheim,Eugene,Branch,Carlisle,
    Wade,Stewart,RichardsonGreen, DMAC.

    The disection on the top players have been documented, the other player not mentioned much better step up, or it will be a long year.

  330. Raider Dell Says:

    RRS

    I tell you what, I will give you my final 53 after the Thursday game. I do get a mulligan by the Seattle game, right?

  331. Raider Dell Says:

    The market is at 125, the news is all good. Except for that fish story.

  332. No More Infield or Trolls Says:

    Terdell Sands is not even listed on that unofficial depth chart…

  333. RaiderRockstar Says:

    I tell you what, I will give you my final 53 after the Thursday game. I do get a mulligan by the Seattle game, right?

    ***

    boo!

    everybody gets a mulligan Dell. I thought we should have cut Chris Johnson & Hiram Eugene 2 years ago when they both stunk in up in camp & preseason. As of today they are both starters! yowsa. I’ve been wrong PLENTY

  334. NoMoreFargas Says:

    Turdell not on the roster, I never cared about his weight it was he gets little or no push and is lazy. How many times did are DT make plays in the backfield last year. Kelly must be a force for the D to stop the run cause it ain’t gonna be Warren,Turdell.

  335. OAKlifer Says:

    The market is at 125, the news is all good. Except for that fish story.

    ************************
    O, was sayin the markets 380-400 down in SD!!!!

    Ohhhhh that market nevermind!!!!

  336. hwnrdr Says:

    Have a good day guys!!! Time to do some work…haha!

  337. OAKlifer Says:

    Turdell not on the roster, I never cared about his weight it was he gets little or no push and is lazy.

    ********************************8

    I think he was just left off the first Deprth chart mot the roster how ever he should be if he dsnt get his arse in gear!!!!

    HEY BOTH NOMORE’s,

    You guys want in on the FFL??????? Its a Raider blog league we still have like 6 spots i think!!!

  338. Raider Dell Says:

    I enjoyed the mornin crew, but work requires my strict attention. Coffee is starting to work and my final two comments are, if you see Dakota, let him know not to select Westbrook in the FFL.

    Raider O, your suppose to be in the blog, where are you?

    Later mornin crew.

  339. OAKlifer Says:

    Later hwnrdr,

    Raider on brother!!!!

  340. OAKlifer Says:

    Later Dell,

    Raider On Brother!!!!

  341. 4evaRaider Says:

    Last 2 years we finished 4th & 10th respectivly.We slipped last year because of,imo

    1.Injuries:the loss of OO was devasting 4 our scheme.Cerberus was never 100%
    2.lame kitten
    3.Kwaaameeee

    If we can stay healthy and let our RB’s afford the WR’s and Jmac 2 feel comfortable,I can see a top 6 running attack allowing the passing game to pick and choose.Carlysle and Green,no matter4 what is said about them,at the end of the day they have played in a TOP 10 running despite all da bullsh!t =)

  342. 4evaRaider Says:

    in rushing,sorry

  343. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    Oaklifer,

    Sry I forgot to sign up for the FFL last night – wife’s dinner was siblime, and led to…no computer time.

    I’m in tonight fosho!

    Weird mood today though. Wrenched my back drying off from the shower. Popped a “skelaxin” muscle relaxer which didn’t help wif da pain. Got to work and popped an oxyc. Now everything is covered in velvet…

    Its like crack koolaid.

  344. CJ Legend 34 Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    August 12th, 2009 at 7:34 am
    If I recall you are a Michael Huff fan. Once again tell me why we should keep this guy around? I just can’t see it.

    ***

    we’re keeping 2 FS on the roster. Huff & Eugene. they are splitting all the 1st team reps. whats the big deal?

    look at the depth chart. Mitchell, Branch & Boyd are all competing at SS … just as i’ve been saying since the draft

    ————————————————–
    Makes sense, makes sense. I just wish this guy could that intensity back that he had at TX. He seemed like he was going to be a big time hitter in the NFL when they drafted the guy.

  345. 4evaRaider Says:

    This is the perfect time 2 apply 4 your medical marijuana card BO =)

  346. OAKlifer Says:

    Morning BSJ!!!

    Velvet Covered I Love it!!!!!!!!! Crack koolaid!!1 LOl man ur day at work should be greeeeeaaat!! (tony the tiger voice)

  347. OAKlifer Says:

    This is the perfect time 2 apply 4 your medical marijuana card BO =)

    Get me one too……..

    Wait you need a card?!?!?!?!?!?!?!

  348. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    4evaRaider Says:
    August 12th, 2009 at 8:35 am
    This is the perfect time 2 apply 4 your medical marijuana card BO =)

    :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

    Strange…how did you know I was dry? LOL.

  349. Silver-n-Black666 Says:

    I refuse to go to twitter.

    How stupid of an invention, I mean its great for people like Chad Johnson and T.O. who desperately seek attention on a daily basis, but I am not going there for Jerry MacDonald news.

    Also it seems like profootballtalk always beats Jerry to the punch, even on his own stories and Raider news. Example: I read about the Derrik Burgess trade 1/2 an hour before it was posted here.

  350. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    OAKlifer Says:
    August 12th, 2009 at 8:40 am
    Morning BSJ!!!

    Velvet Covered I Love it!!!!!!!!! Crack koolaid!!1 LOl man ur day at work should be greeeeeaaat!! (tony the tiger voice)

    ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

    Just don;t call me NorcoBo, LMAO. Where’s da lika sto?

  351. RaiderRockstar Says:

    I just wish this guy could that intensity back that he had at TX. He seemed like he was going to be a big time hitter in the NFL when they drafted the guy.

    ***

    CJ: couldn’t agree more. We drafted Huff in the Top 10 to be a playmaker, not a special teams or depth guy. Certainly wouldn’t expect to see him beat out by an undrafted guy. I think the talent is there, but I’m not sure what the issue is. I like to blame Rob Ryan because no safety has had success under his watch in Oakland. Putting Huff in the box is far from lucid (owe 25 cents to BSJ). He’s scheduled to make less than $1 million this year, then his salary jumps to over $5 million next season (uncapped year & the final year of his contract). This will be a make or break year for him. I’m glad he finally has a legit DC in the 4-3 defense. If he can’t produce, he’s out – no more excuses after this season. Same goes for Richardson, Warren & Sands on the DL.

  352. RaiderTW Says:

    Got to work and popped an oxyc. Now everything is covered in velvet…
    Its like crack koolaid.
    ————-
    Now, BSJ, if you lost your job you would know how Narc0 b0b lives..hahaha
    mmmmmm,velvet (best Homer Simpson voice). Oxyc, is there anything you can’t do?

  353. OAKlifer Says:

    Where’s da lika sto?

    ****************
    Plain as yesterday I remember that post it was only up for a few moments but lives forever in my head!!!!!

    dryyyyyy…NOOOOOOO!!!!!!!! thers always the summer outdoor to get ya through no??!?!?!?

  354. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    Makes sense, makes sense. I just wish this guy could that intensity back that he had at TX. He seemed like he was going to be a big time hitter in the NFL when they drafted the guy.

    ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

    CJ, at TX I thought Huff was an arm tackler and a ball hawk. I didn’t see a hitter…he always looked too slight.

  355. 4evaRaider Says:

    Cooper Carlisle is in 10th year out of florida.It looks as tho they have setteled on RG 4 Mark Wilson,6-7 320 Cal.Wilson has been hampered by his back.So if Carlysle can play 4 one or 2 more years,we will have a nice mixture of youth and experiance.And it will be a smooth transition from Carlysle to Wilson.This team that the organization(Big Al)is building is coming along,finally,imo.Oh did I mention Wilson is from Cal???

  356. RaiderRockstar Says:

    How stupid of an invention, I mean its great for people like Chad Johnson and T.O. who desperately seek attention on a daily basis

    ***

    ummm.. Silver, McFadden & Morrison tweet on a regular basis. I think Louis Murphy, Thomas Howard and others do so as well!

  357. Larz Says:

    Willie Joe actually helped a lot when he came back.

    Kiffin was an idiot for carrying only 3 DTs.

    I can see if they were 3 healthy studs but a rehabbing Kelly and a air sucker like Sands?

    Maybe Willie Joe wouldn’t take his shirt off?

  358. AZ Raider Says:

    Bo’s in rare form this morning! I’ll trade you some Kool-aid for what ever your on this morning Bo…

    9-7!

    JAVON WALKER COMEBACK PLAYER OF THE YEAR!

    GALLERY TO THE PROBOWL!

    PLAYOFFBOUND!

    DRINK UP NATION!

    ;)

  359. Silver-n-Black666 Says:

    RR

    Well I guess I would go to McFadden’s tweet page.

    Do you go there?

  360. 4evaRaider Says:

    thats what I’m surviving on OAK =)

  361. 4evaRaider Says:

    Bo ;I can feel your pain through the key-board,thats how I knew =)

  362. OAKlifer Says:

    Well I guess I would go to McFadden’s tweet page.

    Do you go there?

    **********************

    he tweets bout practice (not much) and talks to chicks thats it I jopined the craze but faded out quick but all those guys will respond to you if you talk to them as well as jerry Mac they are cool!!! but uhh yeah it kinda sux and with football season the blog FFL work the wife two kids and two dogs….twitter got bumped to the practice squad for me!!!

  363. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Huff isn’t going to strike fear into anybody with the ball already in thier hands, which concerns me if what Jerry reports is true (that he’s always a step late in coverage)

    His strength is pass coverage, not run support. He might be our best cover safety, despite the fact Jerry Mac says Tyvon Branch can cover pretty well for a SS.

    Nnamdi & Kirk say he’s much improved this offseason and poised for a breakout year. I guess we’ll find out!

  364. OAKlifer Says:

    4eva cuagt wind of that up here too bro but its back to Deislel and kush from here on out…White Rhino will be done in two weeks!!! I love the Med campus!!!!!

  365. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    Medical purple law is making its way through the Illinois legislature, where I live.

    Can’t get a CA pot card unless you have a CA license, right? And the old warrants have ruled that out…

  366. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Well I guess I would go to McFadden’s tweet page.

    Do you go there?

    ***

    nah. my works bans twitter (except when I click the link to David White’s twitter from his blog for some reason?)

    I hear guys talk about tweets from Raider players all the time though. They post them on here for all of us to read

  367. Lowdown_in_Beijing Says:

    Lay law with the new crew: Howard, Alston and Brown.

    Morrison finds a new home and we find a young DT.

    Engage Cpt. Kirk.

  368. 4evaRaider Says:

    Oak I’m partial 2 a 60-40 mix of sweet Hawaiian.I like da BIG KOLA’S.Of course 60=indica;40-sativa.Lite,airy and 2 da sky eyes wide open high =)

  369. 4evaRaider Says:

    Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
    August 12th, 2009 at 8:57 am
    Medical purple law is making its way through the Illinois legislature, where I live.
    ******************************************************

    Has it got the votes BO ???

  370. Silver-n-Black666 Says:

    Train Wreck and Super Silver haze

  371. OAKlifer Says:

    Lowdown_in_Beijing

    Long time no read brother!!! How goes it???

    ************

    4eva,

    airy and 2 da sky eyes wide open high =)

    You on the islands bro????

  372. OAKlifer Says:

    Train Wreck

    one of the best imho……..

    Bo,

    You live in Chitown?????

  373. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    AZ Raider Says:
    August 12th, 2009 at 8:51 am
    Bo’s in rare form this morning! I’ll trade you some Kool-aid for what ever your on this morning Bo…

    :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

    Actually, just take that kool-aid u already have, cook it up, apply, rinse, and repeat.

  374. OAKlifer Says:

    hmmmmm…..A litlle help from the brethran???

    TurksTagTeam?????

    Who…..

  375. OAKlifer Says:

    Actually, just take that kool-aid u already have, cook it up, apply, rinse, and repeat.

    **************

    LMAO STILL!!!! Bo, did you hustle and cook crack when you wAS A teenager!??!?! LOL

  376. 4evaRaider Says:

    Oak No but close 2 them as I’m in Florida.The soil here needs help but the sun…The Florida Sun is GREAT (Tony da Tiger) =)

  377. AZ Raider Says:

    What Oak?

    TurksTagTeam?

    Who……?????????????????????

    We gots a few “Turks” on the squad including DHB, but waz the question?

  378. OAKlifer Says:

    Dang 4eva yu aways away!!! you and Pete Cross country Raiders I love it!!!!

  379. AZ Raider Says:

    JK…. Oak.

    What are you asking?

  380. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    OAKlifer Says:
    August 12th, 2009 at 9:07 am
    Train Wreck

    one of the best imho……..

    Bo,

    You live in Chitown?????

    :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

    an hour outside

  381. OAKlifer Says:

    We gots a few “Turks” on the squad including DHB, but waz the question?

    I think that’s TERPS bro……..

    is that you AZ in the FFL leauge turk tagteam

  382. OAKlifer Says:

    an hour outside

    *******************

    Add Bo to the cross country list!!!!

    WE ARE EVEYWHERE!!!!!!!!!

    Come Rise With Us!!

  383. 4evaRaider Says:

    Oak,I used 2 live in Cali (North Hollywood,La~Canada) area but went through a divorce,moved 2 florida and cant get out YET

  384. NoMoreFargas Says:

    Thanks but no thanks I have never played FF and never will I would suck cause I would only pick Raiders players .

    GO RAIDERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

  385. Dakota Says:

    I agree with #260…get Jon Runyan in here today!!!! We are in desperate need of a RT. We can’t allow Mop Handle to start at RT. Just can’t do it!!!!

    I know I give the Raiders schit for acquiring guys that don’t fit the system, like D. Hall and Garcia, but we REALLY NEED SOMEONE THAT CAN BLOCK AT RT…even if he isn’t a zone blocking scheme guy!

    Runyan on one leg is better than any RT we currently have on the roster.

  386. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    4evaRaider Says:
    August 12th, 2009 at 9:05 am
    Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
    August 12th, 2009 at 8:57 am
    Medical purple law is making its way through the Illinois legislature, where I live.
    ******************************************************

    Has it got the votes BO ???

    ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

    Appears to, but it is the early stages still.

  387. NoMoreFargas Says:

    Hate to talk soccer in here but GO USA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  388. OAKlifer Says:

    Runyan on one leg is better than any RT we currently have on the roster.

    **************************
    Sad but true……

    And just a message from Dell stay away from Brian Westbrook!!!

  389. Richochet Says:

    Long gone are the days of players showing up, expecting to get into shape, to get the rust out, to get comfortable.
    Only no one told Russell.

    Actually, they did.
    He just didn’t quite get it.

    Honestly, how dare he, or any player, show up for training camp, who has a set guaranteed contract, who’s been annointed the “savior”, the “franchise”, and not be in EXCELLENT shape. To not be sharp. To not have made it perfectly clear they’ve been working out, been doing their own set of drills, and are ready for the new season.

    Russell isn’t the only player to do this, by far.

    Except he’s the #1 pick in the draft, and now, 3 training camps later, he still is coming in not ready to play his position at a peak level. Relying on camp to get him into “game shape”.
    Now?
    Him showing he could care less about staying in shape, while hitting the nightlife, booze, and bling is why, at the end of this year, it will be official…..

    JAMARCUS RUSSELL=BUST

  390. 4evaRaider Says:

    WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW

    THAT WOULD BE EXCELLENT IF IT PASSES THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES home state,like what a statement!!!!!!!!!!!!.Then it will become the DOMINO EFFECT AND VIOLA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  391. raidertbone Says:

    Hey crew! I’m back in!
    Tbone
    P.S. Could Jeanette Thompson possibly be any perkier?!!

  392. OAKlifer Says:

    NoMoreFargas Says:
    August 12th, 2009 at 9:21 am
    Thanks but no thanks I have never played FF and never will I would suck cause I would only pick Raiders players .

    **************************

    Understood bro!! I was just telling somebody in here the other day to steer clear of LT and gates or Marshall or any Division foes….Its hard to cheer for these punks….I would take a fantasy loss any day over a Radier Loss or I would be revoked my Nation membership!!!!! thnx for the response tho!!!

    GOOO RAIDERS!!!!!

  393. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    OAKlifer Says:
    August 12th, 2009 at 9:12 am

    LMAO STILL!!!! Bo, did you hustle and cook crack when you wAS A teenager!??!?! LOL

    ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

    Was just a consumer at Venice High in the 80s…what a wild place to live as a teenager just as the CIA invented crack. The USMC took care of that for me though.

  394. Dakota Says:

    Brian Westbrook rules FF…but I might heed that advice this season!

  395. Richochet Says:

    AZ Raider Says:
    August 12th, 2009 at 8:51 am
    Bo’s in rare form this morning! I’ll trade you some Kool-aid for what ever your on this morning Bo…

    9-7!

    JAVON WALKER COMEBACK PLAYER OF THE YEAR!

    GALLERY TO THE PROBOWL!

    PLAYOFFBOUND!

    DRINK UP NATION!
    ==========================================
    Is it too much for you to make sense on occasion?

    Gallery to the probowl? lol…yeah..that will happen.

    Playoffbound?? Oh, right, it’s offseason..before the first game..well, heck, might as well state Super Bowl bound while you’re babbling and making no sense.

    Javon Walker? comeback player of the year?
    Uh, lol, are you aware you just dissed Al Davis?
    Al gave Walker a 50 million dollar contract..just PRIOR TO LAST YEAR.
    YOU stating he’s going to COME BACK means you acknowledge he was a total bust last year.
    Way to put that knife into Al’s back, Kushy…

    (Hey, you’re right, Walker was a total bust, and the signing was arguably the dumbest offseason signing in decades…right up there with other signings of guys named Hall, Kelly, and the ultimate DUH, WHAT WERE YOU THINKING…KWAME HARRIS….
    It’s just most Raider fans don’t point it out like you did, dissing the geezer like that. Way to call it like it is, Kushy *thumbs up*)

  396. OAKlifer Says:

    The USMC took care of that for me though.
    **********

    I’m sure the same stand true for most in that era…

    My buddy just joined the Marines he is stationed in Japan right now Iknow things are alot different now from then but what do you think of his decsion????

  397. raidertbone Says:

    AZ:
    I REALLY like the advice you gave me, it was either Monday or yesterday (I forget which)! I passed it along to several others, as well.

  398. OAKlifer Says:

    Az,

    did he just call you kushy???? LOL

    And Gallery to the PB is the most likely Line canidate that we have he has been a beast playing Gaurd for us..thats right Gaurd inkow you still think he is the LT of the future cause you dnt or cant keep up…but he may make the PB as a beast of a gaurd with in the next couple years!!!!

    and 9-7 like it live it love it!! Cause its on the way!!!!

    PLAYOFFBOUND!!!!!!!!!!

  399. Dakota Says:

    Where is LMN?

    I am beginning to get worried about that little soci@list! Hope his dad is okay and I hope he didn’t lose his job or something.

  400. Dakota Says:

    Runyan Runyan Runyan

  401. OAKlifer Says:

    Where is LMN?

    I am beginning to get worried about that little soci@list! Hope his dad is okay and I hope he didn’t lose his job or something.

    *********************************

    I concur…hope all is well LMN!!!!!

    and ……Hate to talk soccer in here but GO USA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  402. Mistabrown Says:

    Speaking of S0cialist. B@rback is sinking the Dem party with his Health Care. This Country has had it only 6 months in.

    :D

  403. OAKlifer Says:

    John, John, John!!!!!

  404. Mistabrown Says:

    TBONE……BACKOFF! J Thompson is my babies momma!
    I called it last year..

    # raidertbone Says:
    August 12th, 2009 at 9:26 am

    Hey crew! I’m back in!
    Tbone
    P.S. Could Jeanette Thompson possibly be any perkier?!!

  405. raidertbone Says:

    # Dakota Says:
    August 12th, 2009 at 9:40 am

    Runyan Runyan Runyan

    ________________________________

    If Runyan can stand on two feet, I guarantee he can block better than Kwame!

  406. priesttj Says:

    Dakota, if Jon Runyan was so great, why is it so easy for the Raiders to get him? If Green was sooo bad tell me how many sacks did he give last year?

    I’m not saying Green is Lincoln Kennedy but why is it that every player we have SUCK worse than a play with no job? If said player was sooo good he would be on a team and certainly not available via trade or anything else.

    It’s like Fargas, you’d think he was the worse HB in league history if you believed half the post in here.

    Disengage your emotions and engage your brain more often and some of the stuff you say would make more sense.

  407. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    OAKlifer Says:
    August 12th, 2009 at 9:34 am
    The USMC took care of that for me though.
    **********

    I’m sure the same stand true for most in that era…

    My buddy just joined the Marines he is stationed in Japan right now Iknow things are alot different now from then but what do you think of his decsion????

    :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

    I think it is a VERY risky proposition to sign your ass over to the gov’t these days, but for some the Marines are a great fit. As long as he did it with a clear understanding of the REALITY of being a Marine he should be OK. At least that chickenhawk Bush isn’t around to invent more new wars.

  408. OAKlifer Says:

    Mistabrown,

    Why bash….. this country has been going down hill ever since we herded the last Indian in to a camp!! Get over it we have destoyed this place beyond repair in the last hundred years the economy is the least of our worries so lets talk sports today brother cause you or me or barrack or anyother yahoo isnt doin shieet we will keep throwing trash in canyons and in rivers and keep polluting the air and water we have no COUTH as a country WAKE THEF up people this is not one mans problem we have been in a downward spiral for about 75 years now!!!!!!!

  409. raidertbone Says:

    # Mistabrown Says:
    August 12th, 2009 at 9:43 am

    TBONE……BACKOFF! J Thompson is my babies momma!
    I called it last year..

    # raidertbone Says:
    August 12th, 2009 at 9:26 am

    Hey crew! I’m back in!
    Tbone
    P.S. Could Jeanette Thompson possibly be any perkier?!!

    _______________________________

    Not a dig … just an observation. Actually, I think she does a really fine job on the show!

  410. 4evaRaider Says:

    It’s gonna take socialism or some form thereof 2 right the 5 TRILLION curious george spent

  411. Dakota Says:

    Runyan!!!!

    Sign Pete Kendall as well….

  412. Mistabrown Says:

    Yeah Dakota, start using your brain like Priest!

    lmao

  413. Mistabrown Says:

    LMAO @ needing Socialism to get the Country out of Debt!

    How is it Poland, German, Russia all failed with Socialism and you brain deads think the US nees to adopt it?

  414. OAKlifer Says:

    thanks BSJ!!! nice read!!

    BHP,

    Runyan is a upgrade over the rest he is unemployed due to injury which has all but healed and with that thinking you have why are there any FA moves or cuts or waiver moves what is one mans garbage is another mans gold!!!! Mop handle is not that good we were porus last year at best and runyan could push that group he is mean nasty and a mauler……

  415. raidertbone Says:

    I agree with Dakota — we need more quality depth. Hey, maybe we can sign Anthony Munoz!

  416. 4evaRaider Says:

    4 those of you that missed this great post =)

    4evaRaider Says:
    August 12th, 2009 at 8:23 am
    Last 2 years we finished 4th & 10th respectivly.We slipped last year because of,imo

    1.Injuries:the loss of OO was devasting 4 our scheme.Cerberus was never 100%
    2.lame kitten
    3.Kwaaameeee

    If we can stay healthy and let our RB’s afford the WR’s and Jmac 2 feel comfortable,I can see a top 6 running attack allowing the passing game to pick and choose.Carlysle and Green,no matter4 what is said about them,at the end of the day they have played in a TOP 10 running despite all da bullsh!t =)

  417. Mistabrown Says:

    4eva its ok B@rback tripled the debt in 6 months on garbage that didnt create a single job?
    Ok..

    Bush was in office 8 years and your guy spent over 3 times that in 6 months on garbage but thats ok? Thats one of the reasons this Cuntry is going down. People like you with your head in your a$$.

  418. Dakota Says:

    priesttj Says:
    August 12th, 2009 at 9:46 am
    Dakota, if Jon Runyan was so great, why is it so easy for the Raiders to get him? If Green was sooo bad tell me how many sacks did he give last year?

    I’m not saying Green is Lincoln Kennedy but why is it that every player we have SUCK worse than a play with no job? If said player was sooo good he would be on a team and certainly not available via trade or anything else.

    It’s like Fargas, you’d think he was the worse HB in league history if you believed half the post in here.

    Disengage your emotions and engage your brain more often and some of the stuff you say would make more sense.
    _______________________

    Hey brainiac, Runyan is not on a team right now because he was coming off an injury and is 36. But he is now cleared to begin working out and will be cleared for practice in two weeks by Dr. Andrews. Runyan is an aging vet that is ten times the player Green is.

    Oh, and Green gave up 7.5 sacks and was flagged 8 times last season. Anyone that watches the Raiders knows that he is now the weakest link on the o-line…do you even watch the games?

  419. 4evaRaider Says:

    um Exactly how much has my boy Barrack amista???

  420. OAKlifer Says:

    People like you with your head in your a$$.
    ********

    Dakota and I hate to be left of lists…….

  421. 4evaRaider Says:

    spent sorry Mista

  422. raidertbone Says:

    Mistabrown:
    As Raider fans, we probably shouldn’t criticize too harshly many of the things that have gone wrong over the past eight years in this country. We just move along
    (hey, anybody got an extra cup of that koolaid for my man?!)

  423. OAKlifer Says:

    Did Raider O and AZ make a geust apperance’s then run this AM?????

  424. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    Hey guys, I just learned my secretary’s husband (separated) is guy who was killed at the Richmond toll booth yesterday. Unbelieveably sad. She is freaking…

    http://cbs5.com/local/toll.taker.shot.2.1124999.html

  425. priesttj Says:

    If I’m not mistaken Runyan lost his last job prior to that injury. Jon Runyan was at one time a very good OT he no longer is, he is no better IMO than Green. Problem is Green is on the team that struggled some with protection and you saw it every game. In truth Green didn’t play nearly as bad as everyone wants to think. We brought in 3 OT’s and already had his backup ready to take his job. Why is he still starting? Oh! sorry I know, the cach is stupid even though the coach played Oline and is one of the most respected Oline coaches in the NFL. He’s still stupid and the people in here know better.

    Give me a freakin’ break!!

  426. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    I am still perplexed as to what Justin Fargas gives this offense that he starts. Again, why did the Raiders draft a backup running back 4th overall? Michael Bush is younger, stronger and more versatile than Fargas. Not hating on Fargas…but the guy had 200+ carries and 1 TD….that 1TD the result of a INT return to the 1yd line.

    Justin Fargas is an average running back who has hit his ceiling. Michael Bush and DMAC can give you the same production with TREMENDOUS UPSIDE.

    Bush/DMAC give this team the best opportunity to win.

    Tom Cable…..gotta question his personnel decision making…he brought on Kwame Harris despite this tape being available. MUST SEE

    http://web.splashcast.net/web_watch/?episodes=2006+Kwame+and+Derek+Episode+Player&code=ZHAC9804LJ

  427. OAKlifer Says:

    Lakers SUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    (thats for you)

  428. RaiderTW Says:

    I LOVE it, trade him to the Raiders!!!…….

    The coaches were relentless, and their target couldn’t pass his latest test.
    Dwayne Bowe kept getting opportunities Tuesday to prove he’s better than the Chiefs’ third-string wide receiver. The passes kept coming, and Bowe kept dropping them.
    Tuesday’s drill was designed to simulate contact after the catch. The receiver would catch the ball, and a coach would immediately smack him with a blocking pad. One pass after another came toward Bowe, a third-year wide receiver, and for a long and uncomfortable while, he couldn’t secure the ball.
    “This group as a whole needs work,” Chiefs coach Todd Haley said after Tuesday’s practice. “They have a ways to go.”
    As the unit’s problems continue, Bowe has become the face of an underachieving group of wide receivers that entered the offseason as a potential problem area and hasn’t spent many days outside Haley’s crosshairs. Haley is a former NFL wide-receivers coach, and he’s spent months trying to get through to the Chiefs’ receivers — and none more than Bowe.
    http://www.kansascity.com/sports/story/1378090.html

  429. Silver-n-Smac Says:

    # Kirk Says:
    August 11th, 2009 at 7:00 pm

    Fargas ahead of McFadden and Bush?

    This really is the dumbest team in America.

    ——————————————————-

    Uh. . . .no, frankly, you people that keep rippin on Fargus are truly some of the most typical modern-day “all flash” fools in America.

    As I’ve said so many times, this team is starving for players like Fargas. I wish we had a few more players like him. The dude is all heart and plays his ass off on every play. I’ll take his 3.7 yards on each and every carry all day long over guys like McFadden who give me 6 on one carry and lose 3 on the next. Give me a freakin’ break man.

    I love McFadden, but, I don’t want him being the work horse. That’s not what he is, and if we plug him in there, we lose a huge element of toughness that Fargas brings to the starting line-up. No defender likes to see Fargas coming at them 100 mph.

    I’m tellin’ you man – You’re the same people who couldn’t wait for Rich Gannon to get hurt so you could stick “Big Gun” Kerry Collins into the line-up.

    We all know how far that took us.

    Why don’t you guys wake up and realize that “talent” doesn’t mean squat if you don’t have blue-collar guys that give their heart and soul to the team. Why do you think a team like the Steelers is ALWAYS tough and ALWAYS competitive?

    If you don’t appreciate a guy like Fargas, then don’t dare call yourself a Raider fan. You ought to go jump ship to that bandwagon across the Bay.

  430. raidertbone Says:

    SnB:
    Calm down! Fargas is on his way out … either this year or after the season.

  431. 4evaRaider Says:

    So let me get this straight Mista…

    I said curious george spent 5 TRILLION DOLLARS.

    You said Barrack spent 3 times that in 6 months.Thats 15 TRILLION DOLLARS…

    Sooo what did he spend 15 TRILLION DOLLARS on in 6 months???

  432. Mistabrown Says:

    I never have seen such a split on a football player in my life. Justin Fargas!!!!!!! Theres no middle ground with this guy either raider fans hate him or like him.

    He is obviously inferior and has no business taking snaps away from Bush & DMAC yet these brain deads keep on jockin the guy!

    Baffling as hell!

  433. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    we have no COUTH as a country…

    :::::::::::::::::::::::::

    Well put Oaklifer, and nice diction.

  434. OAKlifer Says:

    Why is he still starting? Oh! sorry I know, the cach is stupid even though the coach played Oline and is one of the most respected Oline coaches in the NFL. He’s still stupid and the people in here know better.

    Give me a freakin’ break!!

    ****************************

    I’ll be willing to bet Coach Cable was frothing at the mouth when Eugene Monroe was avialable we all know who made the selection and Ibet he is still frothing at the mouth to bring in Quality guys who want to work hard….Green is mediocore at best and hit his wife with a Fing MOP HANDLE we need better character in here and we need DEPTH!!!! I will alll but Garuantee we will be making one -2 line moves b4 the start of the season write it down !!!!!!!

  435. RaiderTW Says:

    4evaRaider, don’t forget the 9million that disappeared in Ir@q & the $85billion spent before he left office.

  436. 4evaRaider Says:

    Maybe AZ Raider can start making COUTH 2

  437. raidertbone Says:

    I don’t hate Fargas; I like him as a player, and I respect him as a warrior. Having said that, he’s getting a lot of mileage on him, and I just don’t see him fitting in to our long-term plans. It’s a shame that we wore him out the past few years on crappy teams.

  438. Silver-n-Smac Says:

    # raidertbone Says:
    August 12th, 2009 at 10:02 am

    SnB:
    Calm down! Fargas is on his way out … either this year or after the season.
    ——————————————————-

    I’m so glad none of you dudes are in charge of organizing the line-up. Go ask any Raider coach or offensive line-up who they think should be the starting tailback and every single one will point to Fargas. And with improved line play, Fargus’ yards/carry will only increase. That dude has played tough DESPITE our poor line play over the past few years.

    For Raider fans, some of you are really shallow. You need to be able to move the chains between the 20’s, CONSISTENTLY, and that’s what Fargas gives us. I don’t like Bush’s attitude yet, to trust him to give us that right now.

    You can’t be getting 6-7 yards on one play and negative 2 on the next. That’s what you’ll get with McFadden.

    Now at the goal line, I’m with you. Just pound Bush into the middle.

    I love how people keep pointing to Fargas’ one TD last year. Tell me how effective our O-Line was in the red zone for ANY of our offensive players.

    Nuff said.

  439. Dakota Says:

    Priesttj Says:
    August 12th, 2009 at 9:59 am
    If I’m not mistaken Runyan lost his last job prior to that injury. Jon Runyan was at one time a very good OT he no longer is, he is no better IMO than Green. Problem is Green is on the team that struggled some with protection and you saw it every game. In truth Green didn’t play nearly as bad as everyone wants to think. We brought in 3 OT’s and already had his backup ready to take his job. Why is he still starting? Oh! sorry I know, the cach is stupid even though the coach played Oline and is one of the most respected Oline coaches in the NFL. He’s still stupid and the people in here know better.
    Give me a freakin’ break!!
    _______________________________________________________

    You are mistaken…Runyan started 192 straight games…his last start was last year’s NFC Championship game.

    2008 Philadelphia Eagles
    16 16
    2007 Philadelphia Eagles
    16 16
    2006 Philadelphia Eagles
    16 16
    2005 Philadelphia Eagles
    16 16
    2004 Philadelphia Eagles
    16 16
    2003 Philadelphia Eagles
    16 16
    2002 Philadelphia Eagles
    16 16
    2001 Philadelphia Eagles
    16 16
    2000 Philadelphia Eagles
    16 16
    1999 Tennessee Titans
    16 16
    1998 Tennessee Oilers
    16 16
    1997 Tennessee Oilers
    16 16
    1996 Houston Oilers
    10 0
    TOTAL 202 192

    Oh and any coach that stubbornly played Kwame over Henderson for as long as he did has about as much credibility as you do in this blog…very little.

  440. Mistabrown Says:

    4eva, this isnt the place to educate you so i’ll just say it once and then you can go stick your head back in the sand.

    Bush was in office 8 years & after 911 kept us safe from another attack. He had no choice but to safeguard the Country. People like you don’t appreciate that. It cost $ to fight terr0rism! Enjoy your freedom!

    Your wreckless imbecile is attempting a GOVT takeover of the private sector. He spent 800 billion on a job stimulus that didn’t create a single job we actually lost hundreds of thousands. Yet your behind it all the way!

    If you want to be pissed about the $ Bush spent I have no problem with it. You want to look the other way when B@rback goes above & beyond BUSH thats what ticks me off about you people, why the hypocrisy ?

  441. 4evaRaider Says:

    TW and the most deceitful thing curious george did was,in his last 6 weeks in office he tried 2 sell as much of OUR PRISTINE NATURAL LAND as possible 2 his oil and gas cronies.WHAT A FUKKIN CHUMP CURIOUS WAS AND WILL 4 EVER BE,imo

  442. OAKlifer Says:

    SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
    August 12th, 2009 at 9:59 am
    I am still perplexed as to what Justin Fargas gives this offense that he starts. Again, why did the Raiders draft a backup running back 4th overall? Michael Bush is younger, stronger and more versatile than Fargas. Not hating on Fargas…but the guy had 200+ carries and 1 TD….that 1TD the result of a INT return to the 1yd line.

    *************************

    Its been echoed and there is areally good post about it up top but in short having faras here for the next year or so and definitly last lear has added 3-5 yrs on Bush and MCfadss career’s imho…and when Jruss is up to speed and the WR and the lines…we will have two fresh legged BEASTS to unleash in the upcoming years!!!!!WE will prevail!!!

    Remember too brother this is only the First preseason first game Depth chart IT WILL CHANGE b4 opening day sooo lets just wait n see…….

  443. Mistabrown Says:

    Did Priest in fact make another statement without facts? Say it isnt so! Priest how is it you are 100 times smarter than all of us & you continue to talk out your anus ?

    Dakota Says:
    August 12th, 2009 at 10:09 am

    You are mistaken…Runyan started 192 straight games…his last start was last year’s NFC Championship game.

  444. jhill Says:

    The politic “discussions” are always so funny to me. Politics are nothing more than a way to keep you distracted. Does it really matter who the President is? The rich just keep getting richer, and the rest of you have your politics and reality shows to keep you occupied. I guess you gotta have something!

  445. 4evaRaider Says:

    Mista Clearly I understand why you cant see the world around you,it’s because you have so much sh!t in your eyes from having your haed soo far up your azz =)

  446. 4evaRaider Says:

    head

  447. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    raidertbone Says:
    August 12th, 2009 at 10:02 am
    SnB:
    Calm down! Fargas is on his way out … either this year or after the season
    =======================================================
    Its not about people on their way out or not. I am just SICK AND TIRED of watching this plodding offense not produce points.

    When Bush and DMAC are getting the carries…the offense seems to have a little more juice.

    DMAC was drafted 4th overall. Al Davis picked him 4th overall….Michael Bush was a 4th round pick who everyone knew was 1st round talent if his injury healed (which it did!)

    Al Davis gave up on Justin Fargas by bringing in all these running backs. Fargas has a role on this team to play…but the kid has to do more than just pick up a blitz…he’s got to stay healthy, become a playmaker and CREATE opportunities (like Bush did against T.B) and he has to catch the ball…which he can’t do very well.

    Fargas should have been playing 4 yrs ago. Are we going to do the samething to DMAC and Bush? Platoon them and then hope they can turn it on in their late 20’s early 30’s

    And never has 3-backs been able to share carries. The Giants had 2 ball carriers…Jacobs and Ward….Bradshaw was a seldom used reserve.

    Who’s the seldom used reserve in Oakland? My fear is it will be Michael Bush…an our offense will continue scoring 13 pts a game and get blamed for the p^ss poor run defense!

  448. 4evaRaider Says:

    very well said Jhill

  449. jhill Says:

    Bush was in office 8 years & after 911 kept us safe from another attack.

    —————————————————–

    The ULTIMATE distraction!

    How much $ did Bush and his boys make off the oil, “security”, and “rebuilding” of IRAQ. And what did IRAQ have to do with 911 or terrorism? I thought that was Al Queda? We’re the plane guys Iraqi?

    Hmmmm.

    On the same token, why is Obama focusing on Afghanistan? Same reasons. The people who spent all the $ to get him elected need to keep their plan in action.

    Obama, George, Bill …. It really doesn’t matter.

  450. AZ Raider Says:

    Holy Shyt-balls! I’m missing everything!!!!

    Oak, you started a FFL and didn’t tell me? I want to play, but my name will stay the same. Just like my License plate! AZR8ER! Don’t get it twisted! LOL.

    Hey Oak, there better be a spot left for me. How do I join up?

    9-7!

    DRINK UP!

  451. 4evaRaider Says:

    AND lets not 4get that 911 HAPPENED ON CURIOUS GEORGE’S WATCH

  452. raidertbone Says:

    Let’s just trade Afghanistan for an offensive tackle and a defensive tackle!

  453. Silver-n-Smac Says:

    # SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
    August 12th, 2009 at 10:16 am

    “Its not about people on their way out or not. I am just SICK AND TIRED of watching this plodding offense not produce points.”

    __________________________________________________

    And you’re blaming this on Justin Fargas??????

    Come on man – have you ever considered that over the past 6 years, we’ve had some of the worst offensive line play in the NFL’s history?

    I can remember countless play after play in which there was no hole to run through and Fargas got us 3-4 tough-earned yards. And if we had any semblance of a passing game all these years, he’d easily average 1200 yars/season.

    You guys all get a woody over Bush having 2 good games?

    And as much as I like McFadden, what exactly did he do last year with any level of consistency that would make you believe he’s an every-down back?

    Did you see McFadden flat-out quit on a JRussell interception last year against San Diego late in the year?

    Did you seem him quit and NOT tackle the defender?

    Sorry man – I like his skills, but that’s not the type of player I want as my starting tailback.

  454. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Yeh, Bush kept us real safe on September 11, 2001, didn’t he? The largest attack in US history happened on his watch. FACT. And, the intelligence was there warning him about it. He didn’t act, we got hit. He should still be investigated for that and starting this mess in Iraq in response. People who still defend Bush are certified retards.

  455. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    And let’s not get fancy with “manufacturing” specialist roles.

    There is no such thing as a “short yardage” back. What is that. THe only short yardage back I ever saw was William “the Refrigerator” Perry.

    Just because Michael Bush weight 245 lbs does not mean he is a “short yardage” back.

    Was it short-yardage when he went 66 yds against Tampa? Outruning cornerbacks…breaking tackles and making people miss? Or his run to close out the K.C game?

    DMAC is not a “finesse speed back” either. This guy has a different running style….but he can go up the middle, around the edge, or through somebody.

    And what is a “between the 20’s” running back? Either you make MEANINGFUL plays or you don’t.

    Also a word about JLH. Just because he is 5′11 190 does not mean he is somehow “too fragile” to be an everydown receiver. Its about getting off press coverage, getting open and catching the ball. JLH proved that he is capable of doing that when the guy was scoring touchdowns down the stretch and was the most potent weapon on the field….next to Michael Bush.

    THis is not hard….but if Cable elects to get fancy and play “do-right” guys….this team is going to lose……Period!

  456. AZ Raider Says:

    raidertbone Says:
    August 12th, 2009 at 9:36 am
    AZ:
    I REALLY like the advice you gave me, it was either Monday or yesterday (I forget which)! I passed it along to several others, as well.
    ……………………………………………….

    Any time Tbone, what did I help you with? We talk about soooooo much stuff on here I can’t remember…

  457. Dakota Says:

    It’s the fans that defend a guy like Green that give Raider fans a bad name.

    Yikes!

  458. jhill Says:

    Why thank you 4eva …

    My Mom is a BIG TIME republican from Az who just moved back to Cali. I agree with a lot of the things that they say, but I also agree with a lot of the Dem stuff. It shouldn’t be that hard to do the right thing by everyone, but it always comes down to a pissing contest, like everything else, as to who way it should be, or who the most popular guy, yada yada yada. And of course the ultimate is how can I get control of the $. It all comes down to who controls the $.

  459. 4evaRaider Says:

    AHHHH YEEEESSSS!!!

    Well said Silver-N-Smac.Tho we all hope Dmac and Bush can get their head out of the sand,so 2 speak =)

  460. priesttj Says:

    I’ll say this and then I’ll leave.

    What bothers me is when fans think they know more than a coach. I’m not saying coaches don’t make mistakes lord knows they are not perfect but I think they have a lot more going than thaverage group of fans.

    Tom Cable made one mistake with Kwame Harris all of a sudden all the good he’s done is in question. Look at what he’s dne with Gallery, Carlisle, Green and Grove and Mario. A lot of you ding him for not playing Mario earlier. But I understand why he didn’t. We had Harris for one year hoping he could work through his troubles it FAILED. But if it had worked BOOM. His hesitation with Mario is consistent with most coaches. Mario was unknown if he showed Harris that he had no faith in the kid and went to Mario and Mario failed where could he turn? He would have not one but two underachieving OT’s. So he made absolutely sure before goingt to Mario that Harris was finished……….period

    He could not shot the whole wad with a hasty decision and lose both. As a result the team suffered but they have potentially a great OT in Mario.

    Coaches think like coaches not fans and they can’t afford to think like fans. To us everything is simple …….get rid of that guy and go get this guy!!

    There is a lot more to than that!! systems fits , money just to name a few.

    Cable is doing an outstanding job IMO so far he kows who and what he’s looking for, we don’t.

    He passed on not one but two LT’s in this years draft Monroe and the kid from ‘Ole Miss. Do you think he would do that if Green was soooo bad? Also give Barnes time to hit the field.

  461. OAKlifer Says:

    Hey Oak, there better be a spot left for me. How do I join up?

    *************

    AZ…LOL Ive been pushing this like cross tops in the 80’s were ya been!!! LOl here is the link if it dsnt work go to yahoo custom and use the name ID and PW!!!!

    http://football.fantasysports.yahoo.com/f1/528978

    JerryMacskidz (ID# 528978)
    PW: ONENATION

    Playoffbound!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  462. AZ Raider Says:

    OAKlifer Says:
    August 12th, 2009 at 9:38 am
    Az,

    did he just call you kushy???? LOL

    And Gallery to the PB is the most likely Line canidate that we have he has been a beast playing Gaurd for us..thats right Gaurd inkow you still think he is the LT of the future cause you dnt or cant keep up…but he may make the PB as a beast of a gaurd with in the next couple years!!!!

    and 9-7 like it live it love it!! Cause its on the way!!!!

    PLAYOFFBOUND!!!!!!!!!!
    ……………………………………………….

    That guy “rackoshit” or whatever you gys call him, is a DB fasho. If his name is at the top, I just scroll right by. Nothing ever interesting or worth reading in his posts, so if he did I guess that’s cool. I like kush! Leagalize!

    9-7!

    YOU KNOW THE DRILL!

    DRINK IT!

    ;)

  463. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    Silver-n-Smac Says:
    August 12th, 2009 at 10:24 am
    # SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
    August 12th, 2009 at 10:16 am

    “Its not about people on their way out or not. I am just SICK AND TIRED of watching this plodding offense not produce points.”

    __________________________________________________

    And you’re blaming this on Justin Fargas??????
    =======================================================
    The running game is as instrumental as the passing game. The running game last year was unspectacular. Rarely made any meaningful runs that helped to win the game….except K.C and Tampa games.

    The running game has to create as many opportunities as the passing game. 1 TD man. Fargas has to create more opportunities than that. Bush and DMAC ran behind the same raggedy line and put points on the board…points that helped win games….points that helped their quarterback.

    Meaningful yards….look no further then that 2nd K.C game. A whole bunch of nothing.

  464. raidertbone Says:

    # AZ Raider Says:
    August 12th, 2009 at 10:25 am

    raidertbone Says:
    August 12th, 2009 at 9:36 am
    AZ:
    I REALLY like the advice you gave me, it was either Monday or yesterday (I forget which)! I passed it along to several others, as well.
    ……………………………………………….

    Any time Tbone, what did I help you with? We talk about soooooo much stuff on here I can’t remember…
    _____________________________________________

    AZ Raider:
    It was that little noise that we get on the blog every once in awhile that eventually goes away when we ignore it. I would elaborate on it more, but just suffice it to say that I have my flyswatter out!

  465. OAKlifer Says:

    There is no such thing as a “short yardage” back. What is that. THe only short yardage back I ever saw was William “the Refrigerator” Perry.

    *************

    ZACH CROCKETT!!!! LOL ok so theres only two but……..

  466. Mistabrown Says:

    Dont let the door hit you..

    priesttj Says:
    August 12th, 2009 at 10:28 am

    I’ll say this and then I’ll leave.

  467. RaiderRockstar Says:

    let’s summarize Cornell Green’s career, shall we?

    draft status: undrafted

    2002: Bucs – 3 starts
    2003: Bucs – 5 starts
    2004: out of football
    2005: Broncos – 0 starts
    2006: Bucs – 0 starts
    2007: Raiders – 10 starts, 8 false starts, 7 sacks allowed
    2008: Raiders – 16 starts, 6 false starts, 2 holding calls, 7.5 sacks allowed

    you guys really think Cornbread Green is starter quality?

  468. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    Come on man – have you ever considered that over the past 6 years, we’ve had some of the worst offensive line play in the NFL’s history?

    I can remember countless play after play in which there was no hole to run through and Fargas got us 3-4 tough-earned yards. And if we had any semblance of a passing game all these years, he’d easily average 1200 yars/season.

    You guys all get a woody over Bush having 2 good games?
    =======================================================
    Because those two games were pretty much the only 2 games that the Raiders produced a game-changing running attack….Oh, and they won those two games going away!

    How much plodding offense do you need to see. And don’t forget Bush had 7 catches in the 1st S.D game. A game the Raiders should have won.

    Fargas should be far and away the best running back on the field. And yet his numbers are pedestrian…so much so that we have to talk about intangibles and all that stuff.

    Treat Bush and DMAC like Russell….let them start…if they falter, then bring the vets in!

  469. Silver-n-Black666 Says:

    OMG is he serious LMFAO!!

    MistaBrownNoser is one dumb hillbilly.

    “Bush was in office 8 years & after 911 kept us safe from another attack. He had no choice but to safeguard the Country.

    Yeah Al Qaeda attacked us so we attacked Iraq?

    Its only now that your hero “Obama” is shifting resources from Iraq (where BUSH put them aand they are not needed) to Afghanistan to fight Al Qaeda where there is a real threat.

    So “YOUR” Republican administration that is supposed to be so much better at running a military was wrong and a Democrat is fixing it.

    In your face!!!!

    That has to hurt so bad no wonder you losers of the election have your panties in a wad.

  470. OAKlifer Says:

    Does anyone rememer…YOU would have too if you watch like I do EVERYTHING!!! Z. Crockett would have his own hand Symbol from the sideline..Gruden would take his thumb and index fingerand move them from a two inch gar to a 1/2 inch gao about two or three times and every time after that it would be a FB dive for two and a half yrds never failed!!!!! I remember…

  471. raidertbone Says:

    Let me just say this about Fargas (and then I’ll shut up about him for awhile):
    1st: It’s a shame we wore his a## out for so long, without any blocking help;
    2nd: His TD numbers don’t reflect his value to the offense we had;
    3rd: I think we are getting away from that offense now. He needs to go somewhere that’s a better fit for him;
    4th: By starting him, we can up his trade value while protecting our other two feature backs (win-win);
    5th: Having said all that, let’s see what happens with injuries and our passing game production, as well as our blocking (or lack of).

    There, I’ve said what I wanted to … the rest will just have to play itself out.

  472. RaiderRockstar Says:

    03/22/2009:

    Cornell Green has been arrested on a domestic violence charge in Florida. Tampa police say Green became violent Saturday during an argument at his home there with the mother of his two children. Police say Green slammed 30-year-old Teriyonal Ebony Flowers into a wall, then struck her right arm with an aluminum mop handle. The former player at Central Florida then fled the house. He was arrested at Tampa International Airport before a flight he had planned to take to Oakland.

    Analysis: The 32-year-old tackle was being held Sunday at the Hillsborough County jail on a charge of aggravated battery with a deadly weapon. Continue to follow the developments as this could be a major problem for Green.

  473. Mistabrown Says:

    The Iraq war had nothing to do with 911. Who said it did? You! It was about weapons of mass dest & the brutal things he did to his own people. Afghan is about 911. As soon as you get your facts straight things will come together for you.

    # jhill Says:
    August 12th, 2009 at 10:21 am

    How much $ did Bush and his boys make off the oil, “security”, and “rebuilding” of IRAQ. And what did IRAQ have to do with 911 or terrorism? I thought that was Al Queda? We’re the plane guys Iraqi?

  474. priesttj Says:

    OK, Dakota let’s see wh signs him and for how much. You could be right I don’t know. I’ve always been a fan of Runyan but he has declined as of late. If you’re right it will be evident.

    But I’m going to give Cable every bit of leeway until he proves he can’t do it. So far he’s 4 for 5. And what are you?

  475. AZ Raider Says:

    Tbone,

    Oh yeah, that advise :)

    Anytime bro!

    9-7!

    ;)

  476. Silver-n-Black666 Says:

    MistaBrownNoser

    Just admit it….IT HURTS because you lost and your bitter.

    Go back to your right wing militia compound in Idaho and stock pile weapons then sheepishly prognosticate the end of times as GW would have you do.

  477. RaiderRockstar Says:

    priesttj: please read my last 2 posts regarding RT Cornell Green and give me your thoughts …

    #467 & #472

  478. OAKlifer Says:

    Lot of post today this place is lively and for the most part good reads!!!!!

    GOOD WORK BRETHRAN!!!!!!!!

    Jhill,

    Nice few post bout the GOV sheet its all a huge game and we are losing!!!!!

  479. Silver-n-Smac Says:

    Yeah, I saw Bush run 66 yards against Tampa Bay.

    I also saw Zack Crockett run long like that on occasion, when the starter was hurt from time to time.

    I’m not here to rip on any of our players.

    I’m simply saying that we have 3 quality backs that bring unique traits to the table.

    To me Fargas gives us something the other 2 don’t, and that’s an almost freaky lack of care for his own well-being. He will bleed for this team and his teamates. He took a pay cut to be here. He’s said he loves being a Raider. It don’t matter if it’s 1st quarter or 4th quarter. He’s 100 mph all the time.

    If you people don’t realize that those qualities are SO rare in pro sports today, then you just don’t get it.

    Frankly, if Dallas would trade their defensive end Demarcus Ware for McFadden and a 4th round pick, I would do it in a heartbeat. That’s much more of a need for us right now.

  480. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Jhill, all true. Cash rules everything. But the Democrats have been far better at running this country than Republicans have, at least in the past hundred years. FDR led us through WW2, and pulled us out of the depression with the new deal, which led to the middle class and way of life as we know it. JFK and LBJ, with the help of COMMUNITY ORGANIZERS like Martin Luther King Jr., brought us the civil rights act. Something that most southern politicians voted against, btw, and southern Democrats became the modern day southern Republicans because of this. Remember that when they tell you theyr’e not racists… Clinton presided over the most prosperous economy in American history. If Bush had been president in the ’90s, only Wall Street would have benefited from the tech boom, from the get go. We never would have saw the prosperity of the late ’90s. All Republicans do is screw everything up, use distractions and red herrings to blame democrats, and start unnecessary wars for money and political gain.

  481. AZ Raider Says:

    Oak,

    That link didn’t work. It said I cant view the page because I am not a member…

    What is “yahoo custom”???

  482. Dakota Says:

    priesttj Says:
    August 12th, 2009 at 10:28 am
    I’ll say this and then I’ll leave.

    What bothers me is when fans think they know more than a coach.
    _________________________________________________

    What bothers me is when the fans really do know more than the HC lol.

  483. OAKlifer Says:

    post 472 and 467!!!!!

    DID WE RELASE HIM YET!!!!!!!!!??????!?!??!!??!?!

    Sheez this guy is a chump!!!!!!!!!!

    LOL…this could be bad news for green!! LOL

  484. Mistabrown Says:

    Priest I thought you were leaving..

  485. Mistabrown Says:

    The man even lies about leaving!

  486. Raider Dell Says:

    Excuse me Raider Men, I had to correct this comment from this whiner fan, just call me the fact checker.

    Let’s proceed with the comment below, the truth hurst,but we can hand out hankies to Ridosheit.

    Richochet Says:
    August 12th, 2009 at 9:25 am
    Long gone are the days of players showing up, expecting to get into shape, to get the rust out, to get comfortable.
    Only no one told Alex Smith

    Actually, they did.
    He just didn’t quite get it.

    Honestly, how dare he, or any player, show up for training camp, who has a set guaranteed contract, who’s been annointed the “savior”, the “franchise”, and not be in EXCELLENT shape. To not be sharp. To not have made it perfectly clear they’ve been working out, been doing their own set of drills, and are ready for the new season.

    Alex Smith isn’t the only player to do this, by far.

    Except he’s the #1 pick in the draft, and now, 4 training camps later, he still is coming in not ready to play his position at a peak level. Relying on camp to get him into “game shape”.
    Now?
    Him showing he could care less about staying in shape, while hitting the nightlife, booze, and bling is why, at the end of this year, it will be official…..

    Alex Smith=BUST

  487. 4evaRaider Says:

    RRS I don t know if he is starter quality or not but,he joined the team B4 the 2007 season.That year we finished 4th in rushing/last year 10th.So I dont know but since hes been here we finished in the top 10 both years.Like I said B4 if Cerberus stays healthy and the O-line stays healthy WE COULD DOMINATE,imo

  488. Silver-n-Black666 Says:

    Clinton ran a Surplus this is true and he also just freed some hostages from North Korea. Something Jimmy Carter has done as well. Crater has been called upon by world leaders many times to be a peace keeper

    Now lets look at what Reagan and Nixon have accomplished in their post presidency year?

  489. priesttj Says:

    SnB, you guy’s sometimes remind of little children that wont eat vegetables. The coaches are choosing who THEY want not us.

    I look at what the coaches decide and give them credit for the professionals they are. We’re on a blog trying to do their jobs for them. Get it!!

    If Cable starts Fargas who are we to say he’s stupid? you ever coach a game in the NFL???

    Yet you’re smart and he’s dumb. Those of us who know our rles in the grand scheme of things give credit where credit is due. If he wins he looks like a genius if he doesn’t guess what?? they fire him!!

    Wether you are right or wrong you don’t get squat!! It’s his jpob to make these decisions he’s at practice everyday. How many days have YOU been there?? OOh! did you say NONE??

    That’s exactly what I thought!!!

  490. jhill Says:

    Mista ..

    CMon man, are you really telling me that Bush didn’t use 911 terrorist attacks, or should I say the national paranoya(sp) it caused to go into Iraq, or the so called war on Terror? The whole war on terror umbrella made the Bush team ridiculous $.

    For you to even try and rationalize differently is the funny stuff I was referring to. It’s like the parent of a criminal … “That’s my baby!”

  491. Dakota Says:

    Preisttj,

    You are great comic relief.

  492. Silver-n-Black666 Says:

    I wonder if Clinton fingered those Korean chicks on the flight home.

    Have a cigar baby!

  493. 4evaRaider Says:

    thankx Dell =)

  494. jhill Says:

    And you know what Mista, I tend to lean Republican when I cast my votes, but it makes us look silly to try and defend obvious wrongs that our party is responsible for. Just keep it real! I’m not mad at GW or Obama. It is what it is. I just wish I could get some inside info on the companies that are going to profit. Imagine getting a tip on Haliburton before 911?

    Hey, if you can’t beat em, get paid!

  495. Silver-n-Black666 Says:

    I am selling my Ovation Dell

  496. Dakota Says:

    Preisttj,

    According to Preisttj if the coach says so it must be right and we as fans have no right to question it unless we have coached in the NFL ourselves, lol.

    Do you think being a fan means always claiming the team is doing the right thing even when they clearly are not?

    You are insane…

  497. 4evaRaider Says:

    let them eat ketsup Priest

  498. RaiderDogg Says:

    SNB

    How much and what model?

  499. Raider Dell Says:

    SNB666

    Going to the game?

  500. RaiderDogg Says:

    Hey Dell! How are you my friend? Working hard as usual I’m sure…

  501. RaiderDogg Says:

    What up 4eva and Dakota

  502. jhill Says:

    This Fargas passion is just hilarious!

    The guy is solid, if not spectacular. If Bush can’t beat him out, I just don’t get why it’s Fargas or Cable’s fault.

    1 good game by Bush and you guys want to give him a scholarship instead of him earning it? It won’t even be an issue if Bush is as good as we think he is. The fact that you think Cable looks at the next Jim Brown and says “ehhh, I think we’re going to keep him on the bench” is pure comedy.

  503. 4evaRaider Says:

    it seems that the Dogg can just smell when a guitar goes up 4 sale,imo =)

  504. Dakota Says:

    Al Davis could cut Jamarcus Russell tonight and re-sign Jeff George to start and Priesttj would be in here tomorrow morning trying to justify the move, lol.

  505. Silver-n-Smac Says:

    # Dakota Says:
    August 12th, 2009 at 10:51 am

    Preisttj,

    According to Preisttj if the coach says so it must be right and we as fans have no right to question it unless we have coached in the NFL ourselves, lol.

    Do you think being a fan means always claiming the team is doing the right thing even when they clearly are not?

    You are insane…

    —————————————————–

    No dude, I think he’s saying that these coaches see these players, up close, day-in, day-out and more often than not (not always of course), the right guys end up on the field. And they’re much more in a position to make qualified judgements than you or I am.

    So, not to beat this Fargas thing to death, but, if he keeps on starting ahead of the other 2 backs, that ought to tell you something.

    What – do you think Cable is so stupid as to start Fargas if it didn’t give him the best chance to win???

    Do you think he’d really be that stupid? Do you really believe he feels that good about his job security to make a decision like that without really thinking it through?

    Well there’s a novel idea – the head coach may actually have more insights into a player’s value than the average fan.

    Oh Nellie! Imagine that!

  506. jhill Says:

    Mike Bush has a lot of chances last year, and was frankly unimpressive.

  507. 4evaRaider Says:

    Nice and jumpy 2day RaiderDogg

  508. Dakota Says:

    Hey Dogg, what is new?

  509. Raider Dell Says:

    Raiderdogg

    All is well, are you going to stay in the blog, let’s say for 10 minutes.

  510. OAKlifer Says:

    Oak,

    That link didn’t work. It said I cant view the page because I am not a member…

    What is “yahoo custom”???

    **********************************

    Sorry AZ,

    Rare but I got busy for a second!!! LOL

    Just go to yahoo.com get a yahoo account if you dnt have one (free email acc) then go to sports then to fantasy then to join custom league use the league name ID and password to join Im holdin the spot for ya!!!!
    Let me know if you have any more troubles!!

    PLAYOFFBOUND!!!

  511. 4evaRaider Says:

    jhill Says:
    August 12th, 2009 at 10:56 am
    This Fargas passion is just hilarious!

    The guy is solid, if not spectacular. If Bush can’t beat him out, I just don’t get why it’s Fargas or Cable’s fault.

    1 good game by Bush and you guys want to give him a scholarship instead of him earning it? It won’t even be an issue if Bush is as good as we think he is. The fact that you think Cable looks at the next Jim Brown and says “ehhh, I think we’re going to keep him on the bench” is pure comedy.

  512. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    priesttj Says:
    August 12th, 2009 at 10:45 am
    SnB, you guy’s sometimes remind of little children that wont eat vegetables. The coaches are choosing who THEY want not us.

    I look at what the coaches decide and give them credit for the professionals they are. We’re on a blog trying to do their jobs for them. Get it!!

    If Cable starts Fargas who are we to say he’s stupid? you ever coach a game in the NFL???
    =======================================================
    I didn’t call Cable stupid. I am questioning his judgement. When a team loses as this team has for the last 6 yrs….it is totally appropriate to question the decision making.

    The Raiders aren’t the Steelers or Patriots. This is a team that has lost a lot of games and has a penchant for playing mediocre veterans over young talent that has a high upside.

    Then the results come in poorly. And then we overdraft the existing young talent that never got a chance to play because they sat behind unspectacular veterans.

    Please see:

    Chaz Schilens and Johnnie Lee Higgins – Lelie & Curry
    Justin Fargas yrs ago – Amos Zeroue, LaMont Jordan
    Tyler Brayton – every other veteran
    Andrew Walter – Aaron Brooks

    I want youth BHP. Especially when such youth produce in their limited opportunities.

    Is that too much to ask?

  513. 4evaRaider Says:

    GAWD Jhill I’m still laughing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  514. RaiderRockstar Says:

    I don t know if he is starter quality or not but,he joined the team B4 the 2007 season.That year we finished 4th in rushing/last year 10th.So I dont know but since hes been here we finished in the top 10 both years.Like I said B4 if Cerberus stays healthy and the O-line stays healthy WE COULD DOMINATE,imo

    ***

    Green has had 26 starts for the silver & black the past 2 seasons. Those resulted in 14 false starts & 14.5 sacks allowed

    tough to find worse stats from a starting RT around the league …

  515. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    Hiram Eugene or Michael Huff?

    Justin Fargas or Darren McFadden

    Mario Henderson or Khalif Barnes (injury answered that one)

    DHB/JLH or Javon Walker

  516. OAKlifer Says:

    afternoon Dogg,

    howz the haps bro you down for a jerry Mac FFL league???

  517. Dakota Says:

    Silver-n-Smac Says:
    August 12th, 2009 at 10:57 am

    What – do you think Cable is so stupid as to start Fargas if it didn’t give him the best chance to win???

    Do you think he’d really be that stupid? Do you really believe he feels that good about his job security to make a decision like that without really thinking it through?
    ________________________________

    Actually he already did that with Kwame Harris, so yeah, I think he is that dumb. Henderson came in when Harris was injured and played his ass off, yet Cable stuck with Harris another 4 games before finally doing the right thing….so who is to say Fargas might not get 20 carries a game next year while the players who can win us some games sit the bench?

  518. 4evaRaider Says:

    Hey Trip 6

    Raider O is looking 4 a guit-box

  519. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    Also wasted time with deAngelo Hall when we had Stanford Routt and Chris Johnson

  520. OAKlifer Says:

    Green has had 26 starts for the silver & black the past 2 seasons. Those resulted in 14 false starts & 14.5 sacks allowed

    tough to find worse stats from a starting RT around the league …

    **********************

    The more he forces you to throw stats around the worse ol moppy looks!!! LOL

  521. OAKlifer Says:

    Also wasted time with deAngelo Hall when we had Stanford Routt and Chris Johnson

    ****************************************

    That was a Al choice Im going to have to believe he paid ALOT of $$$$ to “toast” Hall to make him sit behind Routt and c.j. imo

  522. RaiderDogg Says:

    Shit fellas, duty calls. Must get back to work. Everyone have an excellent day. Will be back later if time permits. Keep holding it down.

    Dakota take care of that little lady now :)

  523. 4evaRaider Says:

    I hear ya Rockstar.Good at the run game,leaves something 2B desired,shall we say,in the pass game.I hope Pears is more balanced =)

  524. jhill Says:

    There is no excusing the Kwame Harris move. Especially with that tape of him existing prior to him signing with us. I can understand how that one personell move can cause some doubts. It’s pretty clear to me based on what I’ve read coming out of camp that the best guys will get the job. Whether it is Eugene over Huff, Brown over Morrison, or Routt over Johnson. Why would there be competition at those spots and not at RB? I guess I will just have to see it to believe it.

  525. Raider Dell Says:

    RaiderDogg and SNB666,

    I had a little vacation (Walkabout) and visited friends and family. I stopped at many clubs and listened to local Blues Bands.

    I attended the 4th Annual Animas River Blues Festival in Aztec New Mexico. I saw the following artists,Shemekia Copeland, Mem Shannon and the membership, sugarhouse,Blue Wizard and the masters of Humility, and Edgar Mac Blues, and Robby Overfield.

    Note on the Festival, killer tacos and something up your line RaiderDogg. One of the sponsors was 96.9 THE DOG ROCKS, pretty cool.

    I also went to the house of Blues in Vegas and saw Scott Rhiner and the Moanin Blacksnakes. While in Vegas I also caught the show of Ruffnecks.

    My first stop was Monterey Blues Festival, Aaron Neville, Jefffrey Osborne, Clarence Carter,Ernie Johnson, Alvon Johnson,Barbara Morrison,Elvin Bishop and others.

    Many stops in between to catch local bands, had a great time.

    i spent a week in New Orleans, My wife and I helped restore a few homes damaged by Katrina. The people were very nice and i want to go back soon.

    New Orleans is good to go and people should get back there and see the city.

  526. Raider-405 Says:

    Hey, i think if Shaun Rogers wants out of Cleveland… he would be a fine fit in silver and black.

    http://www.fannation.com/truth_and_rumors/view/114050-ex-brown-rogers-wants-out-of-cleveland

  527. RaiderTW Says:

    Bush was in office 8 years & after 911 kept us safe from another attack. He had no choice but to safeguard the Country.
    Yeah Al Qaeda attacked us so we attacked Iraq?
    ——-
    Wow, dumber than Joe the Plumber, even got served by MR. Thanks for getting rid of that~dufus, guys.

  528. Dakota Says:

    We shall see…I hope Cable does the right thing and doesn’t script the first few drives of the game with the dangerous Justin Fargas in at RB again while McFadden sits on the bench ready to go….until I see otherwise this season, that is what I have to believe Cable will do.

  529. OAKlifer Says:

    I should have been drafted…….

    Too young for WW2

    Too short for the NBA

    Too skinny for the NFL

    Too white for a rap album

    maybe I could get drafted as an intern line coach / emergancy center…….TREY CAN YOU GET ME ON ANY ONES BIG BOARD FOR NEXT YEAR????????????????

  530. Silver-n-Smac Says:

    Dakota:

    I agree with you about Henderson last year.

    The only thing is that as crappy as Harris was in pass protection (and crappy really is being too kind), he was actually a really good run-blocker.

    So, if you’re the coach and you know you’ve got a young team, a young QB, and you’re depending on that running game, I can see how it would be hard to throw in a rookie in there at the toughest position on the O-Line to play.

    Secondly, when you know your owner forked out like $27 million (or whatever it was) for this guy, I think it’s just human nature to be hesitant to make a move like that.

    So again, I agree with you there, but, think about those other circumstances.

    But to compare the Henderson/Harris situation with Fargas vs. McFadden/Bush is ludicrous. Justin Fargas has done nothing but good for this team. You can’t honestly point to anything he’s done that has hurt this team.

    1. He picks up the blitz way better.
    2. He runs way harder than both, CONSISTENTLY.
    3. He always gains positive yardage.
    4. He’s got way more heart and determination.
    5. He totally plays old-school football. Jim Brown would be proud of a guy like Fargas.
    6. If I’m a defender in the 4th quarter and I’m dead tired, I’d much rather tackle McFadden than Fargas during a game-ending drive when you want to shove the ball down the opponent’s throat.

    I can go on and on about why Fargas is our starter.

    There’s a reason, and it’s not because I said so or you didn’t say so.

    If Al Davis really disagreed, you think Fargas would be starting all this time?

  531. Twocents Says:

    Who runs this country? Two words, Goldman Sachs.

    Great article in the July Rolling Stone, “The Great American Bubble Machine”.

    Back to football. Is JaMarcus ever going to be able to string two good practices together? I’m getting a little worried.

  532. OAKlifer Says:

    Raider Dell Says:
    August 12th, 2009 at 11:13 am
    *************************************

    that sounds like a dream Vacation brother good work!!!!!

  533. Raiderwoj Says:

    jhill Says:
    August 12th, 2009 at 10:56 am
    This Fargas passion is just hilarious!

    The guy is solid, if not spectacular. If Bush can’t beat him out, I just don’t get why it’s Fargas or Cable’s fault.

    1 good game by Bush and you guys want to give him a scholarship instead of him earning it? It won’t even be an issue if Bush is as good as we think he is. The fact that you think Cable looks at the next Jim Brown and says “ehhh, I think we’re going to keep him on the bench” is pure comedy.

    jhill Says:
    August 12th, 2009 at 10:58 am
    Mike Bush has a lot of chances last year, and was frankly unimpressive.

    Mbush 95 att 421yds 3 td’s
    Fargas 218 att 853 yds 1 td
    In less than half the attempts than Fargas he gained pretty much half the yards and triple the touchdowns, yet Fargas is “The guy is solid, if not spectacular.” but Bush is unimpressive, doesn’t make much sense to me. Then throw Bush’s 19rec for 162 in against Fargas’s 10rec for 52.

    The problem last year with Bush and McF, as mentioned by cable, blocking. Cable was trying to protect and play a guy who runs hard. If the 2 young guys get their pick-ups right, fargas will be doin cleanup duty.

  534. OAKlifer Says:

    Twocents Says:
    August 12th, 2009 at 11:17 am
    Who runs this country? Two words, Goldman Sachs.

    *************
    The coorperatons and the Iluminauti!!!!

    oh and my old block in Valley Jo CRESTSIDE!!!!!!!!!!

  535. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Jon Runyan has started every game since Week 1 in 1997. Thats every game for 12 seasons.

    sign him Al! keep the streak alive!

  536. OAKlifer Says:

    Runyan, Runyan, Runyan!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  537. OAKlifer Says:

    AZ, you alive brother??????

  538. Silver-n-Black666 Says:

    sorry I will post a link just busy here today

  539. OAKlifer Says:

    Raiderwoj,

    Long time no read hows the haps man??? Intresrted in a Jerry Mac FFL????????

  540. Dakota Says:

    Silver-n-Smac:

    First off, Henderson was not a rookie last season. Secondly, Harris wasn’t signed for anything near $27 million. Thirdly, Fargas is a nice backup RB, and nothing more. I love him on the team, as long as he is only used in emergency situations.

  541. raidertbone Says:

    I’m out guys; time to checking in with my boys at training camp. I’ll check back in tomorrow, before we start kickin’ Dallas’ punk asses!

  542. Raider Dell Says:

    Dakota

    Fargas new nick is AFLAC.

    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

    I love him on the team, as long as he is only used in emergency situations.

  543. Silver-n-Black666 Says:

    My guitar is exactly like this one. This is not my add however.

  544. Silver-n-Black666 Says:

    http://sfbay.craigslist.org/scz/msg/1316388586.html

  545. OAKlifer Says:

    Lunch time Nation see ya in a bit!!!!!!!!

  546. Dakota Says:

    Lol, that is funny Dell. AFLAC lmao

  547. Raiderwoj Says:

    Oak

    hows it goin. usually only get time to read and not post much, i’ll actually be going to meet a client here in about 15min. And i’d love to play in another FFL league but got 3 on the table and I’m VP of 1 of em so not much time available, thanks for the offer tho.

  548. OAKlifer Says:

    LOL @ smac talk when it means nothing…way to go Dakota!!!!!!!

    ***********************First off, Henderson was not a rookie last season. Secondly, Harris wasn’t signed for anything near $27 million. Thirdly, Fargas is a nice backup RB, and nothing more. I love him on the team, as long as he is only used in emergency situations.

  549. Silver-n-Black666 Says:

    Dell

    Don’t you think its funny how Jerry Porter doesn’t have a job!

  550. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Harris wasn’t signed for anything near $27 million.

    ***

    Dakota:

    Harris signed a contract worth $16 million over three years

  551. OAKlifer Says:

    Oak

    hows it goin. usually only get time to read and not post much, i’ll actually be going to meet a client here in about 15min.
    ***************************

    Good to read ya bro!!! hope all is well good luck dominating those leagues this year!!

    RAIDER ON BROTHER!!!!

    Im sure we will get a chance to chat once the seasons under way!!!

  552. Raider Dell Says:

    SNB666

    That’s funny you should mention his name, I thought I saw him driving a UPS truck the other day.

  553. Silver-n-Smac Says:

    A sick part of me wishes Fargas would be traded to another team, like NE or Pittsburg.

    And when he put up big numbers and helped those teams go to a Superbowl, you’d all wake up and realize what we lost.

    McFadden has chicken legs. He’s built heavy up top, but, that’s not where it matters for a running back. You need to be able to churn those legs in the 4th quarter. He’s not built like that.

    Bush definitely can be an every-down back, but, he hasn’t beat out Fargas, and there’s a reason for that.

    Whether you like it or not. You can keep pointing to all of McFadden’s and Bush’s sexy stats.

    There’s a reason why both guys just can’t seem to beat Fargas out.

    Sorry.

  554. Raider Dell Says:

    Dakota Says:
    August 12th, 2009 at 11:28 am
    Lol, that is funny Dell. AFLAC lmao
    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

    I will credit Brien with the new nick.

  555. Dakota Says:

    Hey, maybe if Priesttj’s great RT Green was replaced, then maybe the RB’s blocking abilities might not be so important? And maybe Miller could be used more in the passing game?

    By the way, I have yet to have someone show me a clip of a play where McFadden was on the field and he missed a block and Russell got blown up. I have seen some clips of McFadden scoring TDs though! I think there might be one clip of Fargas almost scoring once out there somewhere…but maybe that was in his USC days or just an urban legend?

  556. Silver-n-Smac Says:

    Dakota:

    Congratulations on correcting me about the fact that Henderson wasn’t a rookie last year.

    Let’s put a star on your forehead. O.K., he wasn’t a rookie. He was a guy who had never started before his stint last year.

    And congratulations on correcting me about Harriss’ contract amount. Like I give a crap if he made $7 million vs. $27 mill. The point is he was one of the highest paid players on the team, via free agency.

    But regardless, we’ll put another star on your forehead for your brilliant correction.

    As for your 3rd point, you’re dead wrong dude.

    I wonder why guys like Jeff Hostetler & Gannon succeed in this league. I don’t give a rat’s ass about their stats or their “talent”.

    They win. They help their teams win.

    That is the point, right? You fools keep pointing to a couple of big TEAM wins by the Raiders last year and it was apparently just because of Bush and McFadden.

    So freakin’ ignorant man.

  557. Dakota Says:

    http://www.celebritiesfans.com/Pic/marcusallen.jpg

    Hey, look, Marcus Allen has skinny legs! We should sign Roger Craig or Eric Dickerson instead!

    lmao

  558. Raider Dell Says:

    Later Raider Men,
    Lunch Time

  559. Silver-n-Smac Says:

    You’re comparing Marcus Allen to McFadden?

    O.K., I’m almost done wasting my time with you.

    PS – Marcus Allen had anything but chicken legs, and I invite you to name a tougher player that has ever played this game.

    What a lame-ass post that was.

    Congrats again.

  560. Dakota Says:

    Silver-n-Smac,

    If those were not important points, then why the hell did you mention those things in the first place?

    And to compare Justin Fargas, a player on a team that has never won diddlysquat to a great player like Gannon and a good player like Hostetler does them a great disservice IMO. Sorry you are so hung up on Fargas, but like it or not, the guy is anything but a winner.

  561. Silver-n-Black666 Says:

    Worrying about who starts is irrelevant at this point because there are 4 pre-season games and 16 regular season games to go and one of these backs, at some point this year is going to get dinged up or hurt.

    We need all three backs period.

    It wont matter who starts because I can guarantee you if McFadden is healthy he is going to get 20+ touches a game. Weather Fargas is the starter or not

  562. Dakota Says:

    Man, I don’t know how Al Davis keeps fending off all those trade offers for Justin Fargas! Around the NFL DCs stay up all night trying to game plan for that guy! lol

    Get a fukin clue.

  563. RaiderTW Says:

    Repost:
    I’m fine with Fargas starting in preseason so he gets his annual “season ending injury” done with early so DMc & Bush can mop up the rest of the year. Yeah!!

  564. Dakota Says:

    I can see it now…Dick LeBeau up at 3 a.m. thinking to himself: “Hmm, Fargas has had 698 career attempts and scored 7 rushing touchdowns. That means he scores on .0100286% of his carries…how are we going to stop this guy?”

    lmao

  565. RaiderTW Says:

    he scores on .0100286% of his carries…how are we going to stop this guy?”
    ———-
    Don’t have to, he’ll run into the back of his LT.lol

  566. Silver-n-Smac Says:

    Dakota:

    Uh. . .well, let’s see:

    The first point was that Henderson hadn’t played any meaningful downs prior to being shoved into play late in the season – his exact stature (rookie or not) wasn’t so important.

    The second point was that Harris was paid a crap-load of dough to be the starter. His actual contract amount was not the point.

    That’s why I brought them up. You chose to be a wise-ass about it, not me.

    In fact, that’s the problem with half you people in here.

    You come up with these lame, smart-ass jabs that do nothing but reinforce the fact that 1/2 of today’s Raider Nation consists of wishy-washy “fans” that decide who their favorite players are from game to game. They love Russel on one play and they boo him the next.

    Freakin’ disgusting.

  567. Silver-n-Black666 Says:

    I see both sides of The Fragas argument:

    On one side he is a very dedicated and hard working athlete who is probably one of the last guys to leave the building everyday. great example for other players always goes 100% even in practice.

    Other side:

    Because Fargas is not as gifted or as fast as McFadden he may not be getting us as much yardage out of each carry as Mcfadden would, therefore not keeping the chains moving and costing us points.

  568. RaiderTW Says:

    You chose to be a wise-ass about it, not me.
    ———-
    To be fair to Dakota, his ass is wiser than most white judges in America!!!

  569. KoolKell Says:

    If The Organization & Coaches always knew what was best, we’d have more than 6 winning seasons in the last 20 years, no?

  570. Oakglenn Says:

    Highlights from this morning:

    # Mistabrown Says:
    August 12th, 2009 at 9:50 am

    LMAO @ needing Socialism to get the Country out of Debt!

    How is it Poland, German, Russia all failed with Socialism and you brain deads think the US nees to adopt it?
    ————————————————-

    Actually, Sweden, Denmark, Canada, Israel, Norway, Poland, Germany, France, England, Portugal, all adopted socialism and seem to still be there, last time I looked. Yup. Still there. You may want to ask the other conservative wack Sarah Palin about Russia. She can see Russia from her house.

  571. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    Raider Dell Says:
    August 12th, 2009 at 11:13 am
    RaiderDogg and SNB666,

    I had a little vacation (Walkabout) and visited friends and family. I stopped at many clubs and listened to local Blues Bands.

    I attended the 4th Annual Animas River Blues Festival in Aztec New Mexico. I saw the following artists,Shemekia Copeland, Mem Shannon and the membership, sugarhouse,Blue Wizard and the masters of Humility, and Edgar Mac Blues, and Robby Overfield.

    Note on the Festival, killer tacos and something up your line RaiderDogg. One of the sponsors was 96.9 THE DOG ROCKS, pretty cool.

    I also went to the house of Blues in Vegas and saw Scott Rhiner and the Moanin Blacksnakes. While in Vegas I also caught the show of Ruffnecks.

    My first stop was Monterey Blues Festival, Aaron Neville, Jefffrey Osborne, Clarence Carter,Ernie Johnson, Alvon Johnson,Barbara Morrison,Elvin Bishop and others.

    Many stops in between to catch local bands, had a great time.

    i spent a week in New Orleans, My wife and I helped restore a few homes damaged by Katrina. The people were very nice and i want to go back soon.

    New Orleans is good to go and people should get back there and see the city.

    ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

    What a captivating trip! Count me among the blues fans here at the blog Dell – I even met the wife at my fav blues bar, Harvelles in Santa Monica. Been there?

    Also, I have a trade show in NOLA in Dec…where do you recommend for the best blues?

  572. Dakota Says:

    I said the same stuff about Ronald Curry before last season and Priesttj and some other sycophants took offense to that too, lmao. “How could you say such things about the WR that lead the team in receptions the past three years blah blah blah…”

    You can take your loyalty and stick it up your ass…the NFL is about winning, if you are not capable, then get out. Fargas has proven year in and year out that he is not capable being a playmaker…time to move on.

    If Cable can’t see it, the next coach will…in 2010.

  573. Lynn from Snot Says:

    This Fargas debate has gotten old, the three headed attack of #25 # 29 and #20 will wear down defenses and allow Russell to strike deep when teams load up the line of scrimmage.

  574. Silver-n-Black666 Says:

    I love the Blues!!

  575. RaiderTW Says:

    You may want to ask the other conservative wack Sarah Palin about Russia. She can see Russia from her house.
    ———-
    If she can she saw Putin riding horseback without a shirt!!! eeewwwww

  576. Silver-n-Smac Says:

    Silver-n-Black & Dakota:

    I bet you if Fargus & McFadden had a foot-race, McFadden wins by only a split second.

    People forget that Fargus is a fast dude.

    Now, think Lamont Jordan and that equals slow.

    Fargus is NOT slow.

    Look: This discussion is all good, it’s all fun and all. When that opening game arrives, if it’s McFadden’s starting, or Bush, or Fargas, or even if it’s Dakota in the starting lineup, I’m going to cheer his “wise” ass off!!! LOL

    I’m a Raider fan. And while I have my favorites or preferences like you do, it really doesn’t matter on Sundays.

    I’ve cheered Jay Shroeder, Mark Wilson & Rusty Hildger & Jeff George until I lost my voice.

    Trust me, that was painful, but, I refuse to boo Raider players on the field. And there’s no way in hell I’m going to rip on a guy with all-heart like Fargas when he epitomizes the few good things about today’s professional athlete.

    Go Raiders!

  577. Dakota Says:

    How sweet, but no one is saying “root against Fargas!” I doubt many of us here actively root for a Raider to fail while he is on the field.

    Just saying McFadden and Bush give us a much better chance to win. Hopefully this “debate” ends after week one when Bush and McFadden get 25 carries and Fargas gets 2 or 3…but if not…

    The concern is real, whether it be Cable or Al Davis making the call…this is not unprecedented in Raider history…better players sitting the bench while lesser talent plays…see Allen, Marcus.

  578. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    Dakota Says:
    August 12th, 2009 at 11:34 am

    I think there might be one clip of Fargas almost scoring once out there somewhere…but maybe that was in his USC days or just an urban legend?

    :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

    Fargas actualy began his college career at Michigan. But guess what…he transferred because Lloyd Carr didn’t consider him STARTER MATERIAL. BTW, Carr is available (retired) so maybe we should bring him in as a RB coach so he can tell Cable to bench AFLAC again. Go Blue!

    Man am I sleepy….zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

  579. Dakota Says:

    Silver-n-Smac Says:
    August 12th, 2009 at 12:06 pm
    Silver-n-Black & Dakota:

    I bet you if Fargus & McFadden had a foot-race, McFadden wins by only a split second.

    People forget that Fargus is a fast dude.
    ___________________________

    This I must LMFAO at….yikes. Fargas was fast when he was a rookie, but all those injuries have slowed him down a bit…but if that is what you thnk, go ahead lol.

  580. OAKlifer Says:

    If Cable can’t see it, the next coach will…in 2010.

    ****************

    Sad but true……..

    Fargas is valuable to the team no doubt but I want to see what we have in or caddy mcdaddy and our bruisin push Bush!!! And they in return need to earn that playing time!!!!

    PLAYOFFBOUND!!!!!

  581. OAKlifer Says:

    Dakota??

    The concern is real, whether it be Cable or Al Davis making the call…this is not unprecedented in Raider history…better players sitting the bench while lesser talent plays…see Allen, Marcus.

    *************************************

    Not sure how to take this refrence please elaboerate…..Bo was equal to or greater than Allen….no??? or were you speaking of bo being on the bench not allen???

  582. Dakota Says:

    Time for lunch…be back shortly…

    Can’t wait to see what the pro-Green and Fargas crowd has to say in the meantime.

  583. Dakota Says:

    Oaklifer….not Bo…after Bo…

  584. OAKlifer Says:

    Man am I sleepy….zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

    88**************************

    Hurry try some more “VELVET”……it will wake ya up!! LOL

  585. RaiderTW Says:

    …..Bo was equal to or greater than Allen….no??? or were you speaking of bo being on the bench not allen???
    ——-
    Yeah, I hated seeing Bo rip off 36 yd runs when Marcus would fumble near the goal line.

  586. Oakglenn Says:

    Regarding Justin Fargas, as I have said a ton of times here, let’s be honest, Fargas is NOT the second coming of Barry Sanders. But Fargas is most likely in the top 30% of ALL running backs in the league tho. Plus, he does things like block well, that don’t show up on stat sheets. Lastly, Fargas does not put the ball on the ground very much either, something that both Dmac and Bush have been prone to do in both their college and pro careers. That’s the number one reason Fargas is out there. Lastly Fargas haters, relax, Dmac and Bush will get their opportunities this year. Bank on it. But they have to earn their playing time. According to some of you, just put them in. thank God, you guys are not running the team. That is something you just don’t do. That is a bad message to send to your team. You make those players earn their playing time by performing well when they are out there. Something that is debatable right now.

  587. 4evaRaider Says:

    Yep

  588. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    OAKlifer Says:
    August 12th, 2009 at 12:20 pm
    Man am I sleepy….zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

    88**************************

    Hurry try some more “VELVET”……it will wake ya up!! LOL

    :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

    The oxyc is why I AM sleepy! Now I think I understand why John Belushi and Robin Williams mixed their opiates with coke…

    The only thing keeping me awake is Raider-caine.

  589. Brien the General Says:

    # HayesDaze37 Says:
    August 11th, 2009 at 9:27 pm

    ***** WINNER: FUNNIEST POST OF THE DAY! *****

    Brientheprivate Says:

    No dumn means you dont know better. I think we know better…….gasp

    ———————

    That is one of the funniest things you’ve ever posted, Bri…you should turn it into a T-shirt!

    Man, it’s a great night to be a Raiders fan. Isn’t it?
    ********************
    Wow English teacher nice convenient way to throw something in but then you forget that this isnt class you dumbass. I like how you left out when I corrected myself right after that.

    # Brien the General Says:
    August 11th, 2009 at 7:05 pm

    dumb*
    ***************
    But yet you leave that out right? Hypocrite alert? Are you sure you arent talking about yourself?

    # HayesDaze37 Says:
    August 11th, 2009 at 9:45 pm

    Dell — I salute you, Black n’ Silver n’ Blues Brother. Yes, I am ready for the season…for the past 5-months.

    I enjoy the HYPOCRITE ALERTS as much as anybody, too. They crack me up. We’ve all got at least a little hypocrite in us, but some got more than others, for sure.

    That funny post by Brientheprivate a little while ago could actually qualify as a HYPOCRITE ALERT, too, since he was criticizing intelligence…while misspelling the word DUMB!

    DUMN…Man, that’s just too funny.
    *************************
    MY comment had nada to do with intelligence, it was pure common sense when referring to Farglass never getting time over Bush and DMAC. Helen Keller can see that.
    ****************************
    # HayesDaze37 Says:
    August 11th, 2009 at 9:57 pm

    Dell — I agree with much of what Bri says…right up ’til he shows his true colors with the name-calling, etc, as soon as somebody disagrees with him. There’s a reason he’s been banned numerous times, and it has nothing to do with what’s gone on between he and I. But, he does get mad when someone doesn’t agree with him…to the point of testoso-meltdown. Those are the times that crack me up the most, probably.

    Raider on, Dell, I get where you’re coming from.
    *****************************************

    Again completely weak argument here since I dont call Raider Dell,Oakglenn,BHP,Lefty,Raiderlen,Chris in NY and Jhill names when they dont agree with me. I specifically call you names because you are a punk bitch and always have been. You are soft and weak. Raider men arent beta male f@gs like you are. I love how you been talking alot of trash when I’m not around and then nitpick every post I put out even when you are reaching for anything to step over me. It wont happen GD49. I get banned because Jerry likes soft men like you to post on his blog. He is a 49er lover dont you know that?

  590. Brien the General Says:

    Bo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Come on bruh, come visit us in the east bay. You will have a great time!!!!!!!!!

  591. RaiderTW Says:

    Rush Limbaugh’s rush of choice, just don’t try getting your maid to fill the perscription. lol

  592. Brien the General Says:

    # Oakglenn Says:
    August 12th, 2009 at 12:22 pm

    Regarding Justin Fargas, as I have said a ton of times here, let’s be honest, Fargas is NOT the second coming of Barry Sanders. But Fargas is most likely in the top 30% of ALL running backs in the league tho. Plus, he does things like block well, that don’t show up on stat sheets. Lastly, Fargas does not put the ball on the ground very much either, something that both Dmac and Bush have been prone to do in both their college and pro careers. That’s the number one reason Fargas is out there. Lastly Fargas haters, relax, Dmac and Bush will get their opportunities this year. Bank on it. But they have to earn their playing time. According to some of you, just put them in. thank God, you guys are not running the team. That is something you just don’t do. That is a bad message to send to your team. You make those players earn their playing time by performing well when they are out there. Something that is debatable right now.
    *****************************
    Glenn, you dont see it though. We dont want Farglass out there at all! He limits the explosiveness of the offense. Yes put them in is what we want. If want to beat some of those good 3-4 defenses we will be facing this season then Farglass has to sit man. It will not work at all

  593. Brien the General Says:

    And Glenn, tell me the starting running backs that Farglass is better than throughout the league

  594. AZ Raider Says:

    Oaklifer,

    Yeah, I’m alive but been busy here at work… Anyway, I have a yahoo account. I went there and clicked Fantasy but I don’t see a link to “join custom League” only a link to create my own….

    Am i just and idiot or am I stupid?

  595. Richochet Says:

    raidertbone Says:
    August 12th, 2009 at 9:36 am
    AZ:
    I REALLY like the advice you gave me, it was either Monday or yesterday (I forget which)! I passed it along to several others, as well.
    ==========================================
    LMFAO.
    Let me see if I recall.
    Az: Richochet just handed me my ass. Hey, Tbone? You aren’t faring too well either. I suggest we STFU, because we’re both embarrassing outself.
    TBone: But, I’ll look like a sorry tool, tail between legs.
    Az: You already look like that. I suggest we shy away from what we have no business being involved in, which is standing up for ourselves.
    Richochet: Wise decision. You may read, and wish you had the balls or tenacity to stand up for the Raiders, but all three of us know you’re my bitch, and that won’t change anytime soon. :)

    As if you had a choice.

    Now, again, I get to slap around the Raiders, at will..you get to remain in shallow end of the pool, wishing you had the balls and brains to say something that makes sense.

    What’s funny as hell is after I torched Az, he wanted company, and like a flea, Tbone said “I’m your huckleberry”

    Way to go, Tbone, lol…just like I predicted.
    Now shut up.
    Oh, that’s right. You have no choice.

    In that case…good boy.

  596. OAKlifer Says:

    ahhh Dakota,

    You didnt like seeing E.D. and Bell or what ever his name was getting all the carries??? What was the deal with E.D. anyways didnt he go to a nfc team for like five games after his stint here…That was abad move on our”al” part!!!!

  597. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    Oakglenn Says:
    August 12th, 2009 at 12:22 pm
    Regarding Justin Fargas, as I have said a ton of times here, let’s be honest, Fargas is NOT the second coming of Barry Sanders. But Fargas is most likely in the top 30% of ALL running backs in the league tho. Plus, he does things like block well, that don’t show up on stat sheets. Lastly, Fargas does not put the ball on the ground very much either, something that both Dmac and Bush have been prone to do in both their college and pro careers. That’s the number one reason Fargas is out there. Lastly Fargas haters, relax, Dmac and Bush will get their opportunities this year. Bank on it. But they have to earn their playing time. According to some of you, just put them in. thank God, you guys are not running the team. That is something you just don’t do. That is a bad message to send to your team. You make those players earn their playing time by performing well when they are out there. Something that is debatable right now.

    ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

    Good points OG. Fargas is around to show the kids how to be professionals: hold on to the ball, understand blitz pickups, and run with 110% effort and ferocity. Moreover, Lil Huggy has real class and respect for the team. If he got cut today, you know he would never trash us like Sapp, Curry, Moss, Rhodes, Jordan, or Schweigert.

  598. Richochet Says:

    AZ Raider Says:
    August 12th, 2009 at 12:36 pm
    Oaklifer,

    Yeah, I’m alive but been busy here at work… Anyway, I have a yahoo account. I went there and clicked Fantasy but I don’t see a link to “join custom League” only a link to create my own….

    Am i just and idiot or am I stupid?
    =======================================
    I say idiot.

    Stupid means you can learn.
    Idiot is idiot all the way to the bone.

    Yep, lol…a slapped on spineless idiot it is :)

    (Oh, and remember, as I stated you MAY NOT REPLY. I slap you around. You read. You wish it would stop. You accept the fact it won’t.
    I love it when some are so easy to control.)

  599. HayesDaze37 Says:

    Hey! It’s a great day to be a Raiders fan. Isn’t it?

    Why can’t we just stick to football/sports? There’s enough debate right there. Having made that point, I know I deserve my own HYPOCRITE ALERT for posting this, but I can’t help meself…

    HYPOCRITE ALERT HYPOCRITE ALERT HYPOCRITE ALERT

    Mistabrown Says:

    4eva, this isnt the place to educate you so i’ll just say it once and then you can go stick your head back in the sand.

    ———– Mista, don’t even try to pretend to know about economics, in theory or practice…let alone “educate” us. What a crack-up that would be. And, the head-in-the-sand only applies when that person doesn’t TRY to ascertain more facts before forming a wall around his opinions.

    Mista says:
    Your wreckless imbecile…spent 800 billion on a job stimulus that didn’t create a single job we actually lost hundreds of thousands. Yet your behind it all the way!

    ———– If you tell the truth, Mista (I know, it’s hard when pride’s at stake), you’d admit that only 10% of the stimulus funds have been appropriated yet (and even “small” jobs which have been started with the funds count as SOME jobs). The country’s been losing jobs for 2-years…the new administration didn’t suddenly open a job vacuum. AND…the fact that many cities around the country have their police/fire/teacher staffs filled, or staffed at all, is because funds are either there, or guaranteed to be on the way. As for who’s behind this thing “all the way”…didn’t you notice (of course you didn’t!) how quickly and quietly this package of incentives and/or bailouts was handed-off from the old admin. to the new admin? The old admin. needed this just as badly as the new one did — they knew we had gone over the edge ALREADY, and needed a lifeline.

    Mista says:
    If you want to be pissed about the $ Bush spent I have no problem with it. You want to look the other way when B@rback goes above & beyond BUSH thats what ticks me off about you people, why the hypocrisy ?

    ———– You calling people hypocrites, Mista?? The ultimate in hypocrisy is when one uses only ONE SIDE of any issue, when trying to pursuade others that his is the only right way of thinking (or demanding such). That’s not just ultimate hypocrisy…it’s the ultimate in stubbornness.

    ***BTW…Your = belonging to you. You’re = you are. (Especially important to know how and when to use words when calling people imbeciles!)

    HYPOCRITE ALERT HYPOCRITE ALERT HYPOCRITE ALERT

  600. Brien the General Says:

    lol

  601. OAKlifer Says:

    Am i just and idiot or am I stupid?

    ****************

    AZ,

    Neither bro we are crazy!!! thats why we blled silver and black!!! ok yahoo home page click on sports then on the new page bout half way down is a little 1/4 box that says FF play now its green click it!! then at the very top of pager shpuld be two blue boxes and two yellow boxes hit the second blue box Join Leauge it will promt yo uto sign in do so! TRY this http://football.fantasysports.yahoo.com/f1/register/joinleague...

    if that dsnt work click the first blue boc joiin league
    then it will promt you to put in name and ID and password try it!!

  602. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    Brien the General Says:
    August 12th, 2009 at 12:32 pm
    Bo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Come on bruh, come visit us in the east bay. You will have a great time!!!!!!!!!

    :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

    LMAO. Thx man. Can I show up to the tailgate? Then you can have NorcoBob on one side and OxyBo on the other.

  603. CJ Legend 34 Says:

    OK let me take a different perspective on the three headed monster. This argument a good thing man. It is like eating out at a fine restaurant and you look at the menu and the steak is good, the shrimp is good, and the Lobster is good. You like all three but you can’t decide not because the meal sucks but because you like all three. Ok now back to the Raiders.

    McFadden has the speed to bounce outside.
    Bush has the power and speed to take it off the tackle and go.
    Fargas best blocker right now and plays with much heart.

    Now I like McFadden and Bush getting most of the carries because I think they are hard for the defense to prepare for and they can take it to the house. Not to mention both can catch and open up the defense. Fargas can not catch out the backfield. I also think McFadden and Bush will mature into better pass blockers.

    Lastly, Fargas has so much heart he takes a lot of punishment and seldom can make it to the next game with out being hurt. Plus strategy wise he can really wear some teams down in the 3rd, 4th and goal line situations behind our punishing fullbacks.

    Bush and DMAC bring such unlimited ability to the table. The other thing is we can’t afford to loose Bush to another team because he could never get any play time for the Raiders. He could go to Denver and become a 1000 yard plus back easy!

  604. OAKlifer Says:

    AZ, if you give me you Yahooemail I’ll send you an invite…unless that is ur regular email and you dnt want every one and there mom using dial up to email you!! LOL

  605. Richochet Says:

    Oakglenn Says:
    August 12th, 2009 at 12:22 pm
    Regarding Justin Fargas, as I have said a ton of times here, let’s be honest, Fargas is NOT the second coming of Barry Sanders. But Fargas is most likely in the top 30% of ALL running backs in the league tho. Plus, he does things like block well, that don’t show up on stat sheets. Lastly, Fargas does not put the ball on the ground very much either, something that both Dmac and Bush have been prone to do in both their college and pro careers. That’s the number one reason Fargas is out there. Lastly Fargas haters, relax, Dmac and Bush will get their opportunities this year. Bank on it. But they have to earn their playing time. According to some of you, just put them in. thank God, you guys are not running the team. That is something you just don’t do. That is a bad message to send to your team. You make those players earn their playing time by performing well when they are out there. Something that is debatable right now.
    ——————————————
    As usual you don’t have a clue.
    Bush is easily better than Fargas.
    Is better than McFadden as well.

    What? You think the team is blind? Can’t see that?

    And yes, they have performed better.
    Fargas 3.9 ypc.
    Bush 4.4 ypc.
    McFadden 4.4 ypc.

    You don’t have a clue.

  606. 4evaRaider Says:

    4evaRaider Says:
    August 12th, 2009 at 10:02 am
    So let me get this straight Mista…

    I said curious george spent 5 TRILLION DOLLARS.

    You said Barrack spent 3 times that in 6 months.Thats 15 TRILLION DOLLARS…

    Sooo what did he spend 15 TRILLION DOLLARS on in 6 months???

  607. 4evaRaider Says:

    4evaRaider Says:
    August 12th, 2009 at 10:15 am
    Mista Clearly I understand why you cant see the world around you,it’s because you have so much sh!t in your eyes from having your haed soo far up your azz =)

  608. HayesDaze37 Says:

    Fargas shouldn’t go anywhere, except down the depth chart a few places. He’s the perfect team compliment, and the instant energy he would provide off the bench would give us what he does best — he’s a temporary spark at best.

    We know he can’t stay healthy…we hope DMC and Bush can…and the two young guys have upside-potential that Fargas would’ve reached long ago if he had it in him. Fargas is the perfect #3 RB…who knows in his heart he should be starting…keeping the pressure on the kids to hold him off.

  609. Oakglenn Says:

    # Brien the General Says:
    August 12th, 2009 at 12:36 pm

    And Glenn, tell me the starting running backs that Farglass is better than throughout the league
    —————————————————–

    Bri The G, good to see you in here!! Actually what I said was in the top 30% of ALL backs in the league, assuming most teams carry 3-4 RB’s. But to quickly answer your question, I would probably rather have Huggy Jr than say Ryan Grant, Earnest Graham, possibly Julius Jones in Seattle to name a couple.

  610. 4evaRaider Says:

    lets tell the WHOLE story Hayes

  611. OAKlifer Says:

    Richochet,

    dont be such a punk man you’re like the fat kid at school that took every ones lunch $$$ untill some skinny girl kicked you in the nuts and you started to cryt in front of everybody ran an told the princaple and you’re grandma had to move you to a different small town. Now I know Truckee sucks but come on bro dont take it out on us!!!

  612. CJ Legend 34 Says:

    I really think Bush has the potential to be a better every down back than DMAC. He is always running down hill and he just fines the holes so clean. Not sure if it was the turf toe or being a rookie but sometimes DMAC did not look as natural finding the hole and making defenders miss.

  613. Oakglenn Says:

    # Richochet Says:
    August 12th, 2009 at 12:52 pm

    ——————————————
    As usual you don’t have a clue.
    Bush is easily better than Fargas.
    Is better than McFadden as well.

    What? You think the team is blind? Can’t see that?

    And yes, they have performed better.
    Fargas 3.9 ypc.
    Bush 4.4 ypc.
    McFadden 4.4 ypc.

    You don’t have a clue.
    —————————————————–

    Where do I say that those other backs are not better??? What I said, that clearly you missed, was Fargas does things that do not appear on a stat sheet. You immediately start listing stats. Then I say Bush and Dmac will play, they just have to earn their playing time. You missed that to. You’re not much on thinking are you rack-o-shit???

  614. Richochet Says:

    Lynn from Snot Says:
    August 12th, 2009 at 12:01 pm
    This Fargas debate has gotten old, the three headed attack of #25 # 29 and #20 will wear down defenses and allow Russell to strike deep when teams load up the line of scrimmage.
    ==================
    It sure worked last year.
    Russell just had defenses quivering in their boots at the prospect of him launching one of those missles right on target.

    Oh wait. that wasn’t Russell.

    Never mind then.

  615. Florida Pete Says:

    Silver-n-Black666 Says:
    August 12th, 2009 at 11:30 am
    Dell

    Don’t you think its funny how Jerry Porter doesn’t have a job!

    ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

    one would think that there is a McDonalds out there…

    that could use a young man with a lot of promise…

    but who won’t threaten anyone’s job…

  616. OAKlifer Says:

    Fargas shouldn’t go anywhere, except down the depth chart a few places. He’s the perfect team compliment, and the instant energy he would provide off the bench would give us what he does best — he’s a temporary spark at best.

    ***********************

    Yes he is our Derrick Fisher our Robert Horry, our…wait I fing hate those guys!!!! but you’re right and he is to us what those punks were to the lakeshow and spurs/where-ever else!!!

  617. Oakglenn Says:

    Lifer, cue the Temptations: “rack-o-shit, he ain’t much on thinking, spends most of his time vomiting from drinking…..”

  618. HayesDaze37 Says:

    Actually, I must apologize to Mista just a little. I misread the your/you’re thing, and you didn’t deserve what I said at the end. I am indeed a HYPOCRITE meself, and I’ll have to punish meself for it.

    Ouch. That hurt.

    OK, punishment done…The rest of what I said is right on the money.

    Next!

  619. raiderdre Says:

    Hey is that Fantasy league still open?

  620. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    CJ Legend 34 Says:
    August 12th, 2009 at 12:48 pm

    McFadden has the speed to bounce outside.
    Bush has the power and speed to take it off the tackle and go.
    Fargas best blocker right now and plays with much heart.

    ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

    PROBLEM SOLVED! Fargas only comes in on PASS PLAYS!

    Does that work for you guys?

  621. OAKlifer Says:

    heyo Pete!!

    Top of the 4 oclock to ya!!!!! howz the swamp???

  622. 4evaRaider Says:

    Lifer we’re depending on you 2 tell us the truth =)

  623. OAKlifer Says:

    raiderdre,

    good sir why yes it is but please heed this is for non trolling raider fans but you are more than welcome if you wan tocompete to win….why dnt you post in here that much?????

  624. Brien the General Says:

    # Oakglenn Says:
    August 12th, 2009 at 12:53 pm

    # Brien the General Says:
    August 12th, 2009 at 12:36 pm

    And Glenn, tell me the starting running backs that Farglass is better than throughout the league
    —————————————————–

    Bri The G, good to see you in here!! Actually what I said was in the top 30% of ALL backs in the league, assuming most teams carry 3-4 RB’s. But to quickly answer your question, I would probably rather have Huggy Jr than say Ryan Grant, Earnest Graham, possibly Julius Jones in Seattle to name a couple.
    *********************************
    Better than those guys? I cant see it at all. Farglass is below average talent who cant find the endzone and lacks versatility

  625. Brien the General Says:

    Bo, Farglass being not in the game period will work for me

  626. CJ Legend 34 Says:

    Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
    August 12th, 2009 at 12:59 pm
    CJ Legend 34 Says:
    August 12th, 2009 at 12:48 pm

    McFadden has the speed to bounce outside.
    Bush has the power and speed to take it off the tackle and go.
    Fargas best blocker right now and plays with much heart.

    ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

    PROBLEM SOLVED! Fargas only comes in on PASS PLAYS!

    Does that work for you guys?

    ——————————————————-

    Not really because now you are limited to not throwing the ball that well on screens out the backfield passes and the defense can key on the pass every time Fargas comes in the game. Use Fargas in spots through out the game to wear down the D.

  627. OAKlifer Says:

    Lifer we’re depending on you 2 tell us the truth =)

    ********************

    only speak the truth spiked with a little koolaid every once in a while!!! what u need bruh?????

  628. raiderdre Says:

    I am all about taking the title from someone! I have been busy. I try to post more when the season comes around. Sometimes it gets to be too much in here! LOL By the way does anyone have a link for the preseason game. I don’t want to wait for the replay!

  629. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    Florida Pete Says:
    August 12th, 2009 at 12:57 pm
    Silver-n-Black666 Says:
    August 12th, 2009 at 11:30 am
    Dell

    Don’t you think its funny how Jerry Porter doesn’t have a job!

    ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

    one would think that there is a McDonalds out there…

    that could use a young man with a lot of promise…

    but who won’t threaten anyone’s job…

    :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

    With that middle finger t-shirt, Jerry would have to stick to drive-thru.

  630. HayesDaze37 Says:

    4eva — I’m sorry I allowed meself to get pulled into the politico-debate, but every now and then I can’t help it. I’d rather let those that actually want to waste their time on that discussion do it…while I waste my own time on sports and other pleasures.

  631. Brien the General Says:

    Huggy doesnt deserve carries at all. If he opens the SD game as starter we are in deep doo doo

  632. 4evaRaider Says:

    I was just finishing up that temptations song!!!

  633. Brien the General Says:

    Wear the D down with 2 yard gains is what Farglass does. Come on fellas. This isnt gonna work

  634. Brien the General Says:

    4eva!!!!!!!!!!

  635. OAKlifer Says:

    S&B!!!!

    AZ!!!!!!

    Good work fellas!!!!!! bring on the pain!!!!

    jerrymacskidz alive and well!!!!!

    PLAYOFFBOUND!!!!1

    p.s. good luck gents!!!

  636. Oakglenn Says:

    Brien, I agree with you, I am not disagreeing, but the reason he is out there is because of some things that don’t show up on the stat sheet. Some posters in here have been complaining about his lack of TD production. Well, sure. But, where in the last three years have we been getting ANY TD production??? It’s not like everyone is scoring TD’s BUT Fargas. Fargas is what he is. Expect to see more Michael Bush and Dmac certainly, provided they can pick up blocking and blitz assignments.

  637. 4evaRaider Says:

    well gotta go pick-up da kid Its benn real fun 2day NATION.The Natives are truley restless.

    L8TER NATION

  638. OAKlifer Says:

    raiderdre,

    sure bro….

    JerryMacskidz (ID# 528978)

    PW: ONENATION

  639. Oakglenn Says:

    where’d rack-o-shit go?? I was just going to start unloading on that zero.

  640. CJ Legend 34 Says:

    I like Fargas but he would never be my #1 back with two talents like Bush and DMAC. We can make it work we did it with Bo Jackson, Marcus Allen and Steve Smith at fullback. We did it with Tyrone Weatley, Charlie Garner and Zack Crockett.

    It is just putting together the right sets and players on the field.

  641. OAKlifer Says:

    Later 4eva!!!

    RAIDER ON BROTHER!!!!!!1

  642. 4evaRaider Says:

    Brien I was just pulling out and saw you!!!! I see the neighborhood just went UP in value,GREAT 2 have you back =)

  643. Brien the General Says:

    The SD game will set the tone for the entire season and a win is mandatory. Farglass gets the main load vs SD run defense and you can kiss 09 goodbye.

    The schit isnt fair to the people who pay to see a winning product. Arent you tired of leaving the games with everyone down in the dumps? Arent you mad that if you gotta watch it at the sports bar spending alcohol money on garbage? Arent you tired of not playing meaningful games during the holidays? I am

  644. OAKlifer Says:

    good work Drizzle and good luck bro!!!!

  645. Brien the General Says:

    # 4evaRaider Says:
    August 12th, 2009 at 1:11 pm

    Brien I was just pulling out and saw you!!!! I see the neighborhood just went UP in value,GREAT 2 have you back =)
    *****************
    How are things buddy and thanks man

  646. CJ Legend 34 Says:

    Jerry Porter was an @$$ he deserves to be unemployeed now. He took his self and tem for granted. Another Hot Dog who will be back in Miami serving hot dogs because his head and mouth was bigger than his production

  647. Richochet Says:

    Oakglenn Says:
    August 12th, 2009 at 12:56 pm
    # Richochet Says:
    August 12th, 2009 at 12:52 pm

    ——————————————
    As usual you don’t have a clue.
    Bush is easily better than Fargas.
    Is better than McFadden as well.

    What? You think the team is blind? Can’t see that?

    And yes, they have performed better.
    Fargas 3.9 ypc.
    Bush 4.4 ypc.
    McFadden 4.4 ypc.

    You don’t have a clue.
    —————————————————–

    Where do I say that those other backs are not better??? What I said, that clearly you missed, was Fargas does things that do not appear on a stat sheet. You immediately start listing stats. Then I say Bush and Dmac will play, they just have to earn their playing time. You missed that to. You’re not much on thinking are you rack-o-shit???
    ============================
    Actually, moron, what you stated was:

    MotleyFoolGlenn: “But they have to earn their playing time. According to some of you, just put them in. thank God, you guys are not running the team. That is something you just don’t do. That is a bad message to send to your team. You make those players earn their playing time by performing well when they are out there. ”

    What part of “they outplayed Fargas” confused you?
    Ok, let’s make it easy for you. What DIDN’T confuse you.
    Shorter list to deal with.

    Both had more td’s as well.

    Yeah, yeah, dumbass, Fargas is a nifty guy, except he doesn’t perform, and doesn’t get the job done..other than that, by all means, leave him in.

    Just slap a DUH on our forehead, and leave it at that.

  648. Florida Pete Says:

    i gotta disagree with you Oak…

    Fargas needs to be our #3 back…

    he plays when / if Bush or McDaddy gets hurt…

    and i want to add this…

    a healthy #2 back is better than an injured #1 back…

    if your #1 guy is hurt… sit him down until healed…

    McDaddy looked bad at times last year because of his turf-toe…

    i don’t see how him missing so many cuts is helpful to the team when Bush is sitting no more than 50 yards away…

    play the guys that are ready and healthy enough to play…

  649. Brien the General Says:

    Glenn what about being a weapon for the offense? What about that vital aspect. The Raiders have stunk so bad lately we confused hard play with talent. It is embarrassing. Watching Farglass getting handoffs remids me of McCown dropping back to pass………you just knew you werent gonna score

  650. HayesDaze37 Says:

    Ahhh, Pete. Some common sense.

  651. Brien the General Says:

    So you guys want a 30 year old lack of talent 3rd stringer getting paid that salary? Doesnt make sense at all. Promote Rankin now. Farglass doesnt bring any element to enhance offensive output. Rankin can be the 3rd back in the mold of Kevin Faulk easily. You need little scatbacks like that

  652. Brien the General Says:

    Remember when I told you guys last year Kwame Harris would fail? All I got was defense for him all day and all night until yall finally saw how garbage he was

  653. HayesDaze37 Says:

    Things like watching Fargas trying to run down a pass in the flat, without pulling something, are what concern me most about the guy. Otherwise…he’s as good a #3 back in the league, and as good as almost every #2 back out there.

    Fargas is an asset to his team in many, many ways.

  654. Raider75 Says:

    As of right now, Dwayne Bowe is not a starter in Kansas City

    By MJD

    That’s a little bit of a shocking headline, no? The report comes from KansasCity.com’s Chiefs beat reporter Adam Teicher, and he reports in his video blog that head coach Todd Haley is more than a little disenchanted with Bowe right now, and he’s pulled him from the starting line-up.

    “Todd Haley took Bowe out of the starting line-up at practice Monday, and afterwards, Haley indicated that he’s just not happy that Bowe’s with the program. Now, Todd Haley’s tried to instill some discipline and conditioning to the Chiefs, and he just doesn’t think that Bowe is with the program right now, and therefore, he’s not in the starting line-up.”

    Wow. Since Bowe’s regarded as one of the future stars in the league, and the Kansas City wide receiver depth chart is not overflowing with talent, that’s a bold move.

    Of course, Teicher also expresses confidence that Bowe will be back in the starting line-up before Week One. And yeah, it’s hard to envision any scenario where that doesn’t happen.

    Still, that doesn’t mean that there’s nothing to take away from this. First, it could be an indication that maybe Bowe isn’t going to have the huge year that many people expected him to have with Matt Cassel(notes) under center. And secondly, it’s yet another sign that Todd Haley is not afraid to lay down the law. That certainly can’t hurt.
    ……………………..
    LOL.

  655. Brien the General Says:

    I get it now. Talent means nothing.

    Here goes the first offensive series against SD

    1st and 10 Farglass up the middle for 2 yards
    2nd and 8 Farglass to the left for no gain
    3rd and 8 inc pass to miller(dmac in the slot and farglass in the backfield)
    4th and 8 Punt

    Riveting stuff guys!!!

    And you guys expect to compete for a division title lol

  656. Florida Pete Says:

    Brien the General Says:
    August 12th, 2009 at 1:19 pm
    So you guys want a 30 year old lack of talent 3rd stringer getting paid that salary? Doesnt make sense at all. Promote Rankin now. Farglass doesnt bring any element to enhance offensive output. Rankin can be the 3rd back in the mold of Kevin Faulk easily. You need little scatbacks like that

    ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

    historically, Davis has always rewarded players after they have produced…

    hence, Fargas’ contract after his 1000 yard season…

    but, in any case, it’s not our money… let Davis reward the players who give their all…

    i’m okay with Fargas being our #3 back…

    number THREE back…

    otherwise i would have to have a Fargas doll constructed and shoot at it with a nail gun… (voodoo works!!!)

  657. Brien the General Says:

    KC and Den are both trash but we will split with them both due to playing players who have no business near an NFL team

  658. Richochet Says:

    Oakglenn Says:
    August 12th, 2009 at 1:08 pm
    Brien, I agree with you, I am not disagreeing, but the reason he is out there is because of some things that don’t show up on the stat sheet. Some posters in here have been complaining about his lack of TD production. Well, sure. But, where in the last three years have we been getting ANY TD production??? It’s not like everyone is scoring TD’s BUT Fargas. Fargas is what he is. Expect to see more Michael Bush and Dmac certainly, provided they can pick up blocking and blitz assignments.
    ——————-
    Again, you’re abusing the right to be stupid.

    D-mac AND Bush both had MORE TD’s than Fargas, with much less carries.

    Better ypc..more td’s..and Bush is a better blocker..more powerful.

    Let me guess..Mommy got you a Fargas poster for your bedroom, and he’s your hero?
    You’ll get over it.

  659. Brien the General Says:

    Results dont matter in so called Raider Nation. Its just a buddy system

  660. Raider Dell Says:

    I logged back on and you guys are still talking about AFLAC. How much longer can we split hairs on this guy for discussion reasons.

    I’ve never seen this horse beaten so much.

  661. OAKlifer Says:

    HayesDaze37 Says:
    August 12th, 2009 at 12:53 pm
    Fargas shouldn’t go anywhere, except down the depth chart a few places. He’s the perfect team compliment, and the instant energy he would provide off the bench would give us what he does best — he’s a temporary spark at best.

    We know he can’t stay healthy…we hope DMC and Bush can…and the two young guys have upside-potential that Fargas would’ve reached long ago if he had it in him. Fargas is the perfect #3 RB…who knows in his heart he should be starting…keeping the pressure on the kids to hold him off.

    *************************

    OAKlifer Says:
    August 12th, 2009 at 12:58 pm

    Fargas shouldn’t go anywhere, except down the depth chart a few places. He’s the perfect team compliment, and the instant energy he would provide off the bench would give us what he does best — he’s a temporary spark at best.
    **

    Yes he is our Derrick Fisher our Robert Horry, our…wait I fing hate those guys!!!! but you’re right and he is to us what those punks were to the lakeshow and spurs/where-ever else!!!

    _________________________________

    Florida Pete Says:
    August 12th, 2009 at 1:15 pm
    i gotta disagree with you Oak…

    Fargas needs to be our #3 back…

    he plays when / if Bush or McDaddy gets hurt…

    and i want to add this…

    a healthy #2 back is better than an injured #1 back…

    if your #1 guy is hurt… sit him down until healed…

    McDaddy looked bad at times last year because of his turf-toe…

    i don’t see how him missing so many cuts is helpful to the team when Bush is sitting no more than 50 yards away…

    play the guys that are ready and healthy enough to play…

    HayesDaze37 Says:
    August 12th, 2009 at 1:17 pm
    Ahhh, Pete. Some common sense.

    **************************************

    I think we are all saying the same thing and my lakshow refrence screwed it all up but just to clear the air!!! I AGREE TOTALY how ever as long as the two younger guys work hard to earn the role then acceppt responsibilty after they are annointed!!

    Sorry for all the copy and paste!!!

    PLAYOFF BOUND!!!!!!!!1

  662. Brien the General Says:

    Pete………we know he wont be the third at all. He will start at RB and the team will use the 4th pick overall from 08 like he is Ronnie Harmon or Eric Metcalf. Sounds smart

  663. Brien the General Says:

    Dell it is an important discussion my friend because who touches the more outside of the QB? We are sick and tired of watching mediocre guys get all the reps. We wonder why we cant turn it around?

  664. Florida Pete Says:

    Raider Dell Says:
    August 12th, 2009 at 1:28 pm
    I logged back on and you guys are still talking about AFLAC. How much longer can we split hairs on this guy for discussion reasons.

    I’ve never seen this horse beaten so much.

    ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

    clearly, this topic has got another couple of hours on it…

    and it’s not a horse… it’s a rented mule…

    i’ll loan you my stick…

  665. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    Brien the General Says:
    August 12th, 2009 at 1:20 pm
    Remember when I told you guys last year Kwame Harris would fail? All I got was defense for him all day and all night until yall finally saw how garbage he was

    ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

    I remember. I also remember hoping you were wrong – just hating on another niner.

    Got any personnel predictions for this season? Fargas doesn’t count…

  666. Mistabrown Says:

    LMAO!!!!!!!!!

    Oakglenn Says:
    August 12th, 2009 at 12:22 pm

    Regarding Justin Fargas, as I have said a ton of times here, let’s be honest, Fargas is NOT the second coming of Barry Sanders. But Fargas is most likely in the top 30% of ALL running backs in the league tho

  667. Dakota Says:

    CJ Legend 34 Says:
    August 12th, 2009 at 1:11 pm
    I like Fargas but he would never be my #1 back with two talents like Bush and DMAC. We can make it work we did it with Bo Jackson, Marcus Allen and Steve Smith at fullback. We did it with Tyrone Weatley, Charlie Garner and Zack Crockett.

    It is just putting together the right sets and players on the field.
    _____________________________

    Too bad Fargas isn’t as good as any of those guys…even Crockett did hos job well and was a good back in the begining of his career.

    Just because Fargas is on the roster doesn’t mean he should touch the ball…so long as McFadden and Bush are healthy.

  668. Brien the General Says:

    Dell lets talk about the Center position. Satele i hear is barely holding off John Wade. What do ya think about that?

  669. Raider Dell Says:

    Brien

    Please correct comment #655

    On the first down add additional yard, Lorenzo Neal will be in to plow an additional yard for AFLAC.

    On second down, depending on field location Lorenzo Oneal will plow in front of AFLAC for an additional yard.

    So on third and 6, the pass to Miller or JLH will be the play.

  670. Richochet Says:

    Brien the General Says:
    August 12th, 2009 at 1:20 pm
    Remember when I told you guys last year Kwame Harris would fail? All I got was defense for him all day and all night until yall finally saw how garbage he was
    ================================
    Cable also went to task for Kwame, dumb as that sounds.

    I mean, the guy only led the league in false starts and holding penalties while with SF..what the hell, Al, give him a 10 million contract..why not? lol…

    where he again led the league in penalties, and that while only playing 12 games.

    some Raider fans are a little slow, is all.

  671. Dakota Says:

    Oaklifer,

    Your Lakers/Fargas analogy was way off base…Fisher and Horry are winners that greatly contributed to winning teams. Fargas is more like a Mark Madsen or Chris Mihm, should be used in spot duty only when someone is injured or in foul trouble…

    Actually, I might be offending Mark Madsen in my analogy!

  672. Mistabrown Says:

    I cant think of 1 starting RB id choose Fargas over. I guess I need to lower my standards to Oakglens level.

  673. Brien the General Says:

    Dell JLH wont be in the game according to some since DHB,Walker and Chaz are over him. Also dmac is a slot WR apparently

  674. Brien the General Says:

    Oakglenn rules but I dont feel him on the Farglass tip

  675. Brien the General Says:

    Dakota Says:
    August 12th, 2009 at 1:36 pm

    Oaklifer,

    Your Lakers/Fargas analogy was way off base…Fisher and Horry are winners that greatly contributed to winning teams. Fargas is more like a Mark Madsen or Chris Mihm, should be used in spot duty only when someone is injured or in foul trouble…

    Actually, I might be offending Mark Madsen in my analogy!
    ********************
    Dakota stop talking about basketball because you evidently dont know what you are talking about. You just compared players who weere on winning teams. What winning team has Farglass been on?

  676. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    Dakota Says:
    August 12th, 2009 at 1:36 pm
    Oaklifer,

    Your Lakers/Fargas analogy was way off base…Fisher and Horry are winners that greatly contributed to winning teams. Fargas is more like a Mark Madsen or Chris Mihm, should be used in spot duty only when someone is injured or in foul trouble…

    Actually, I might be offending Mark Madsen in my analogy!

    :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

    Crash Test Dummy does sound like a Chick Hearn nickname…

  677. Raider Dell Says:

    Brien the General Says:
    August 12th, 2009 at 1:33 pm
    Dell lets talk about the Center position. Satele i hear is barely holding off John Wade. What do ya think about that?
    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

    Brien why do you and I always discuss the center position. I have no clue about Satele, but I will by the end of tomorrow night.

    I believe Wade just doesn’t have the athletic ability that Cable likes.

    I won’t take sides until I have seen both play.So I reserve judgement until we meet again.

  678. NoMoreFargas Says:

    When people dream of this 3 headed monster who is the third monster. Let Neal block that what he gets paid for Adrian Peterson is a horrible pass blocker yet somehow he gets carries, and yes I know Dmac and Bush ain’t Peterson but still we have struggled to score and fargas makes it that much harder.

    GO RAIDERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  679. KoolKell Says:

    Oakglenn Says:
    August 12th, 2009 at 1:10 pm

    where’d rack-o-shit go?? I was just going to start unloading on that zero.
    ————————
    Oakglenn, you’re a Psychopath.

  680. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    Brien the General Says:
    August 12th, 2009 at 1:43 pm

    Dakota stop talking about basketball because you evidently dont know what you are talking about. You just compared players who weere on winning teams. What winning team has Farglass been on?

    ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

    Michigan

  681. Mistabrown Says:

    Oakglen, once again you came in here and combed the blog for my post. Sociopath, get off my nuts & go pet your cat!

    Oh, and move to a Socialst Country of your choice! Funny how Barb@ck & other left wing nut jobs run as moderates and then get elected and turn into what they really are and destroy everything!

    Why is that? Why dont Socialist radicals stand up & say vote for me I’m a radical left wing socialist nit wit who will raise tax & spend the country into the dirt?

  682. Brien the General Says:

    Farglass is all star material in the CFL…………maybe

  683. Oakglenn Says:

    # Mistabrown Says:
    August 12th, 2009 at 1:36 pm

    I cant think of 1 starting RB id choose Fargas over. I guess I need to lower my standards to Oakglens level.

    # Mistabrown Says:
    August 12th, 2009 at 1:32 pm

    LMAO!!!!!!!!!

    Oakglenn Says:
    August 12th, 2009 at 12:22 pm

    Regarding Justin Fargas, as I have said a ton of times here, let’s be honest, Fargas is NOT the second coming of Barry Sanders. But Fargas is most likely in the top 30% of ALL running backs in the league tho
    —————————————————

    Notice how I emphasize ALL running backs in the league, not just starters, which missed-a-brain missed and confuses into “starting” running backs. Missed-a-brain you are one confused individual who seriously needs to go back to 3rd grade reading class. But don’t worry missed-a-brain, I bet you can see “Germania” from yer house!!

  684. Brien the General Says:

    Bo, im talking pros here

  685. OAKlifer Says:

    Actually, I might be offending Mark Madsen in my analogy!

    *********************

    ahhhhh…I didnt read into the comment enought I get ya now thou!!! he isnt the”spark” those other guys were and yeah Chris is prob offended!!!

    Sorry chris!!! LOL

    Michigan, USC…….

  686. Mistabrown Says:

    Imagine our roster without DMAC & BUSH. Fargas gets 500 carries and 0 TD’s.

    The NFL’s worst running attack in history! You people are brain deads!

  687. Brien the General Says:

    # Mistabrown Says:
    August 12th, 2009 at 1:45 pm

    Oakglen, once again you came in here and combed the blog for my post. Sociopath, get off my nuts & go pet your cat!

    Oh, and move to a Socialst Country of your choice! Funny how Barb@ck & other left wing nut jobs run as moderates and then get elected and turn into what they really are and destroy everything!

    Why is that? Why dont Socialist radicals stand up & say vote for me I’m a radical left wing socialist nit wit who will raise tax & spend the country into the dirt?
    **********************
    Country already was in the dirt and clinton got lucky when the silicon valley boomed. no one saw that coming. the right and left both had thier part, because they are both one in the same

  688. Henry Lawrence Says:

    I have been under a rock for a while now. Can someone update me on what we have done to insure a successful season? Did we upgrade our WR’s? Did we put some bite in our D? Did we find our nutts?

  689. Dakota Says:

    # Oakglenn Says:
    August 12th, 2009 at 12:22 pm

    Regarding Justin Fargas, as I have said a ton of times here, let’s be honest, Fargas is NOT the second coming of Barry Sanders. But Fargas is most likely in the top 30% of ALL running backs in the league tho. Plus, he does things like block well, that don’t show up on stat sheets. Lastly, Fargas does not put the ball on the ground very much either, something that both Dmac and Bush have been prone to do in both their college and pro careers. That’s the number one reason Fargas is out there. Lastly Fargas haters, relax, Dmac and Bush will get their opportunities this year. Bank on it. But they have to earn their playing time. According to some of you, just put them in. thank God, you guys are not running the team. That is something you just don’t do. That is a bad message to send to your team. You make those players earn their playing time by performing well when they are out there. Something that is debatable right now.
    __________________________

    Oak, I think you might be a little off here. First, yes McFadden fumbled a lot in college, he was in a gimmicky offense plays almost like an option QB. Last year McFadden lost one fumble.

    Blocking, well, according to reports Bush and McFadden have been lighting up people in camp, so we’ll see if that argument continues to hold water. (besides, no one has yet to offer me any evidence of a case of McFadden, or Bush for that matter, missing a block that lead to a QB sack)

    As to letting those guys start and not earning it…correct me if I am wrong but wasn’t DHB just listed as the starting WR? What has he done to earn a starting job other than scare everyone with dropped passes and being the #7 pick? I guess the Raiders themselves sometimes do what you think is such an awful act…

  690. OAKlifer Says:

    Crash Test Dummy does sound like a Chick Hearn nickname…

    ********************

    put him in the refridgrator hes done!!! LOL ok ok I get it!!!LOL

  691. Brien the General Says:

    I have a great attitude and never complain while playing on a losing squad. I lack vision, hands and overall ability. I can pass block well but I stink at all the other aspects of my position.

    Who am I?

  692. Dakota Says:

    True Brien, those guys were on winning teams, but I would have to go back to the 1860s or something to find a Lakers team that wasn’t a winniner lol.

  693. Brien the General Says:

    Speaking of fumbles anyone remember the KC game last year when farglass makes a big run only to fumble it away?

  694. OAKlifer Says:

    Dakota,

    As to letting those guys start and not earning it…correct me if I am wrong but wasn’t DHB just listed as the starting WR? What has he done to earn a starting job other than scare everyone with dropped passes and being the #7 pick? I guess the Raiders themselves sometimes do what you think is such an awful act…

    *******************************************************

    Thats only the preseason roster and Cable would have been castrated if he didnt list DHB as a starter. I think truly DHB will have to earn his spot but WR is much much different than RB..I believe That Dmac and DHB will be starters day one and I think they wil earn that right!! heck maybe even Bush beats out Mcfad..But make no mistake if you are not Jruss or Nnamdi you will be fighting for you’re job!!!!!

  695. OAKlifer Says:

    no mistake if you are not Jruss or Nnamdi you will be fighting for you’re job!!!!!

    EVEN THO JRUSS HAD BETTER STEP IT UP……he kinda gets the pass here!!!

  696. Raider Dell Says:

    Dakota Says:
    August 12th, 2009 at 1:52 pm
    True Brien, those guys were on winning teams, but I would have to go back to the 1860s or something to find a Lakers team that wasn’t a winniner lol.
    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

    Dakota that is true, but the biggest winner is Jerry Buss. Buss has the most beautiful woman around him, he makes Hugh’s girls look like LAKER GIRL WANNABEES!

  697. Florida Pete Says:

    Oakglenn Says:
    August 12th, 2009 at 1:46 pm

    Notice how I emphasize ALL running backs in the league, not just starters, which missed-a-brain missed and confuses into “starting” running backs. Missed-a-brain you are one confused individual who seriously needs to go back to 3rd grade reading class. But don’t worry missed-a-brain, I bet you can see “Germania” from yer house!!

    ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

    Oakglenn… i like you and i usually stay out of your stuff…

    but…

    if you’re gonna say ALL running backs in the league…

    and if we can accept that the average number of halfbacks on a team is three…

    and your saying Fargas is in the top 30% of ALL of them (implying he is probably not higher than that)…

    then you’re saying Fargas is in the bottom 10% of starting halfbacks in the league…

    no???

  698. Brien the General Says:

    Raiders<——-lack a true NT

    Raiders<——have no RT as of now

    Raiders<—–refuse to play better rbs

    Raiders<—–have the worse free safeties in the league

    Raiders<—–will start the wrong combo of WRs

  699. Silver-n-Smac Says:

    O.K., so just answer this question for me, after pondering the following thoughts:

    1. Al Davis, the all-mighty Al Davis obviously loves speed. . . . .obviously loves talent. That’s why he drafted Bush & McFadden, right? Right. And we all know Al loves to show off that talent at every opportunity he gets, right? Right. So then why the #$#% do you suppose Al hasn’t stepped in and demanded that Fargas be benched so that he can show off that talent? And don’t give me the Marcus Allen BS answer. There are 2 players whom Al really did screw over – Marcus and Steve Buerlein. I’ll give you that. Any real Raider fan knows Marcus was a more complete and fantastic running back than any of the guys that were playing in front of him (yes, including Bo Jackson). But, Al has no reason to stick it to Bush or McFadden. So, if he really wanted those dudes in there, you know damned well they’d be in there.

    Hmmm. . . . . .maybe as a few people have now kept saying, you’ve got to show, on a CONSISTENT basis, that you can be counted on to get at least 3.5 yards on every down and be able to block. Not just for a few plays a game, but, for the duration of a 60 minute football game.

    McFadden & Bush haven’t done that yet.

    So get your own ass out of your head instead of conveniently ignoring those facts, post after post.

  700. Dakota Says:

    Jerry Buss is the man…hope he buys the Raiders.

  701. Brien the General Says:

    joking*

  702. Florida Pete Says:

    Brien the General Says:
    August 12th, 2009 at 1:51 pm
    I have a great attitude and never complain while playing on a losing squad. I lack vision, hands and overall ability. I can pass block well but I stink at all the other aspects of my position.

    Who am I?

    :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

    George W Bush

  703. Dakota Says:

    Brien the General Says:
    August 12th, 2009 at 1:58 pm
    Raiders<——-lack a true NT

    Raiders<——have no RT as of now

    Raiders<—–refuse to play better rbs

    Raiders<—–have the worse free safeties in the league

    Raiders<—–will start the wrong combo of WRs
    ____________________________

    Man sometimes you are annoying, but oftentimes you are so right Brien…and that list is dead on.

  704. OAKlifer Says:

    you’re gonna say ALL running backs in the league…

    and if we can accept that the average number of halfbacks on a team is three…

    and your saying Fargas is in the top 30% of ALL of them (implying he is probably not higher than that)…

    then you’re saying Fargas is in the bottom 10% of starting halfbacks in the league…

    no???

    ************************

    WOW GREAT MATH!

    GOTTA RUN NATION!!!!!!!!!!!!

    til next AM RAIDER ON FELLAS!!!!!!!!1

  705. Brien the General Says:

    # Silver-n-Smac Says:
    August 12th, 2009 at 1:58 pm

    O.K., so just answer this question for me, after pondering the following thoughts:

    1. Al Davis, the all-mighty Al Davis obviously loves speed. . . . .obviously loves talent. That’s why he drafted Bush & McFadden, right? Right. And we all know Al loves to show off that talent at every opportunity he gets, right? Right. So then why the #$#% do you suppose Al hasn’t stepped in and demanded that Fargas be benched so that he can show off that talent? And don’t give me the Marcus Allen BS answer. There are 2 players whom Al really did screw over – Marcus and Steve Buerlein. I’ll give you that. Any real Raider fan knows Marcus was a more complete and fantastic running back than any of the guys that were playing in front of him (yes, including Bo Jackson). But, Al has no reason to stick it to Bush or McFadden. So, if he really wanted those dudes in there, you know damned well they’d be in there.

    Hmmm. . . . . .maybe as a few people have now kept saying, you’ve got to show, on a CONSISTENT basis, that you can be counted on to get at least 3.5 yards on every down and be able to block. Not just for a few plays a game, but, for the duration of a 60 minute football game.

    McFadden & Bush haven’t done that yet.

    So get your own ass out of your head instead of conveniently ignoring those facts, post after post.
    ************************
    lol 3.5 is an awful average for a starter lol. stop it now man

  706. Raider Dell Says:

    Cable has said tomorrow night the starters will play the first quarter.

    Let’s break that down, that could be two to three series for the offense and the numbers could look like this:
    9 plays or 13-16 plays. I would hope more plays the better. The breakdown of running plays will be interesting. Will there be balance of 50% equal runs and pass plays or some higher percentage of plays.

    The Raiders finished dead last in pass plays in most categories last year (08).

    So do they air it out and go towards working on the pass or do they have field position dictate run or pass.

    What do you all want to see as far as more plays in run vs pass.

  707. Brien the General Says:

    Dell, I wanna see if the oline has improved in both facets of the game. I wanna see Russell go through progressions and hit people accurately. Damn going to the TE so much. I need to see passes to the WRs

  708. Dakota Says:

    Jerry Buss is gay? Someone should tell his kids that…might be bi I guess.

    I know the Oakland As are run by a homosexual…

  709. Mistabrown Says:

    I dont doubt Billy Beane is the way he sucks @ GM

  710. Florida Pete Says:

    Raider Dell Says:
    August 12th, 2009 at 2:03 pm
    Cable has said tomorrow night the starters will play the first quarter.

    Let’s break that down, that could be two to three series for the offense and the numbers could look like this:
    9 plays or 13-16 plays. I would hope more plays the better. The breakdown of running plays will be interesting. Will there be balance of 50% equal runs and pass plays or some higher percentage of plays.

    The Raiders finished dead last in pass plays in most categories last year (08).

    So do they air it out and go towards working on the pass or do they have field position dictate run or pass.

    What do you all want to see as far as more plays in run vs pass.

    ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

    what i want is for our head coach to NOT tell the other team that we’re gonna throw it all night…

    that’s what i want…

    and by the way… i like Jeff Fisher’s attitude about winning…

    in order to get used to it…

    you gotta start doing it in the pre-season…

  711. Mistabrown Says:

    He has no idea what hes saying. He pulled 30% out of his a$$.

    A better question is what do you like about a sociopathic troll ?

    # Florida Pete Says:
    August 12th, 2009 at 1:57 pm

    Oakglenn… i like you and i usually stay out of your stuff…

    but…

    if you’re gonna say ALL running backs in the league…

    and if we can accept that the average number of halfbacks on a team is three…

    and your saying Fargas is in the top 30% of ALL of them (implying he is probably not higher than that)…

    then you’re saying Fargas is in the bottom 10% of starting halfbacks in the league…

    no???

  712. Brien the General Says:

    Dakota, wrong. There were two Billy Beanes if you dint know. We dont have the gay one.

  713. Silver-n-Smac Says:

    Let’s do some math, o.k. Brian?

    3.5 + 3.5 + 3.5 = 1st down!

    3.5 + 4 yard pass + 3 yard pass = 1st down!

    3.5 + 3.5 + 3 yard pass = 1st down!

    Tha point is, if your back is averaging 3.5 yards for an entire season, there’s no reason in the world why a team shouldn’t be moving the chains with a half-competent passing game.

    And for the record:

    Jerome Bettis career yards/rush: 3.9
    Marcus Allen career yards/rush: 4.1
    Roger Craig career yards/rush: 4.1

    Justin Fargas’ career yards/rush: 4.1

    And that’s all fine and dandy – at the end of the day, I don’t really care about those stats. You’re either a good football player or you’re not.

    And I’ll take Fargas on my team every day of the week.

  714. Dakota Says:

    Dell,

    If Fargas starts it will be 6 runs by Fargas, 3 incomplete passes on third and longs, 3 punts, and 14-0 when the scrubs get in.

  715. Raiderwoj Says:

    Dakota,
    in regards to the blocking issue with McF and Bush, anytime I brought it up, it was about Cable saying they didn’t know their assignments and blitz pickups very well, and that fargas was better at it. Can’t speak for anybody else but that was my take on the situation, didn’t have to do with the fact they couldn’t physically or wiffed.

    Personally I think if Bush can pick up his assignments, he should be starting. McF, blocking or not, should be on the field in space, anywhere he can make a play. And Fargas should be relegated to resting those 2 and clean-up at the end of games.

  716. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    Mistabrown Says:
    August 12th, 2009 at 1:45 pm

    Funny how Barb@ck & other left wing nut jobs run as moderates and then get elected and turn into what they really are and destroy everything!

    Why is that? Why dont Socialist radicals stand up & say vote for me I’m a radical left wing socialist nit wit who will raise tax & spend the country into the dirt?

    :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

    Mista, Bush is the one who spent the country into the dirt and did his best to “destroy everything”. Obama will be lucky to salvage a decent future for the nation, but his first 6 mos. shows he may well be up to the job.

    Sorta like when Clinton rebuilt the economy and erased the deficit after 12 years of Republican mismanagement.

    The facts of the last 25 years show that only Democrats can run the nation’s economy. Republicans just have no fiscal responsibility (trickle down their leg economics).

  717. Raider Dell Says:

    what i want is for our head coach to NOT tell the other team that we’re gonna throw it all night…
    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

    Pete are you still mad at lil Kiffie for annoucing his offensive intentions prior to our exhibition game last year with the Arizona Cardinals.

  718. Brien the General Says:

    but i don like billy so much these days. The a’s are horrible but not as bad as the cubs

  719. Raider Dell Says:

    NEW POST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  720. Oakglenn Says:

    # Dakota Says:
    August 12th, 2009 at 1:49 pm

    Oak, I think you might be a little off here. First, yes McFadden fumbled a lot in college, he was in a gimmicky offense plays almost like an option QB. Last year McFadden lost one fumble.

    Blocking, well, according to reports Bush and McFadden have been lighting up people in camp, so we’ll see if that argument continues to hold water. (besides, no one has yet to offer me any evidence of a case of McFadden, or Bush for that matter, missing a block that lead to a QB sack)

    As to letting those guys start and not earning it…correct me if I am wrong but wasn’t DHB just listed as the starting WR? What has he done to earn a starting job other than scare everyone with dropped passes and being the #7 pick? I guess the Raiders themselves sometimes do what you think is such an awful act…

    _______________________________________________

    Basically Dakota I agree with most of what you have here. mcFadden put the ball on the ground a few times in games even tho he might not have lost them, and more than the coaches wanted to see in practice. Same with Mike.

    Regarding blocking, both of them HAVE to get better. I don’t know if you have a copy of the last Discharger game from last year to watch, but Bush came in, The Dischargers blitzed, Bush’s head was spinning like he was a cartoon charachter, Jam got wacked the ball came out, and Bush did not see the field again til the last game of the season. Now you know why.

    I really can’t comment on the depth chart put up on the Raiders site. There is a lot of things on the Raiders web site I don’t get, But understand, it is not like I am saying Fargas is Jim Brown and Dmac and Mike are lawrence phillips. One thing I really expect is a LOT more Bush and Dmac this year myself.

  721. Raiderwoj Says:

    And Fargas’s best carreer stat? 698 att 7TD’s! You don’t win with avgYPR, you need points on the board and Fargas don’t do it

    PS career total for receiving TD’s=0

  722. Brien the General Says:

    # Silver-n-Smac Says:
    August 12th, 2009 at 2:11 pm

    Let’s do some math, o.k. Brian?

    3.5 + 3.5 + 3.5 = 1st down!

    3.5 + 4 yard pass + 3 yard pass = 1st down!

    3.5 + 3.5 + 3 yard pass = 1st down!

    Tha point is, if your back is averaging 3.5 yards for an entire season, there’s no reason in the world why a team shouldn’t be moving the chains with a half-competent passing game.

    And for the record:

    Jerome Bettis career yards/rush: 3.9
    Marcus Allen career yards/rush: 4.1
    Roger Craig career yards/rush: 4.1

    Justin Fargas’ career yards/rush: 4.1

    And that’s all fine and dandy – at the end of the day, I don’t really care about those stats. You’re either a good football player or you’re not.

    And I’ll take Fargas on my team every day of the week.
    *****************************
    Drop the smack immediately my friend. The stats you are putting up are for a dink and dunk offense. Notice alot of Farglass runs especially last year were on 3rd and super long. Dont be confused. Haha you used ypc for guys who could find the endzone. Terrible

  723. Brien the General Says:

    # Raiderwoj Says:
    August 12th, 2009 at 2:17 pm

    And Fargas’s best carreer stat? 698 att 7TD’s! You don’t win with avgYPR, you need points on the board and Fargas don’t do it

    PS career total for receiving TD’s=0
    ******************
    Ouch! Its MURDER

  724. Richochet Says:

    So, the general concensus is the Raiders are screwed, right?
    Just clearing things up so those kool aid drinkers can start slowly going through the inevitable withdrawals that are soon to come.
    Might as well beat the rush and accept the fact record losing year #7 is upon you.

    Wait.

    Russell is looking like garbage.
    Garcia seems to be a walking band aid.
    And the STARTING QB FOR THE OAKLAND RAIDERS IS?????

    WOW..lots to ponder :)

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