Howard feeling the pressure
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Tuesday, August 11th, 2009 at 3:24 pm in Oakland Raiders.
More news and notes preceding Tuesday’s second practice:
– Thomas Howard may have been flush with the feeling of coming in unobstructed for what would have been a sack to end practice. Perhaps it was wishful thinking. Or maybe, just maybe, defensive coordinator John Marshall plans on sending the house.
“I’m telling you we are going to pressure teams. I can see it in John’s eyes,” Howard said. “John’s like this. If he calls a pressure and we don’t hi iit, he may back off. But if we call it and we’re hitting it, he’s going
to keep letting us come.”
Really? Based on what?
“I really do believe so after watching John and what he did in Seattle,” Howard said. “If you watch the Seattle tape, they brought pressure a lot,” Howard said. “(Julian) Peterson, linebackers, safety, they brought pressure a lot. He’s used to calling it in games. It’s not just what you see out here in practice, it’s going to spill over in games. I believe that.”
Linebacker Ricky Brown, a candidate to start at both middle and strong side linebacker, wasn’t so sure.
“We’re going out there during our blitz period, and sometimes we’re doing a drill for the offense, sometimes the offense is doing a drill for us,” Brown said. “You can’t have too many weapons. If we’ve go the personnel to blitz _ which I think we do _ I think it would change things up and be beneficial. But we also know that we’ve got guys that can just line up and play football.”
“Either way, I think we’re going to have a good arsenal of stuff to choose from. So once the regular season gets going, I’m not sure what’s going to happen. Maybe we’ll blitz a lot, maybe we won’t.”
Said Cable: “I like what we’re doing and, really, all those guys have shown they kind of have a knack for something, whether it’s coming off the edge or something inside. So, I like it and it’s something I think we’re pretty good at it.”
– Rookie fourth-round draft pick Slade Norris worked with the first team at strong side linebacker for the second straight day as Jon Alston was sidelined with plantar fasciatis. He’ll get a long look against Dallas
“(We want to) see how far he’s come and where his deficiencies are as we get into a game environment,” Cable said.
Norris is apparently of the opinion that the Raiders are global even in a preseason opener that will be tape-delayed in the home market.
“I just really want to come out and show the world what I have,” Norris said. “I played D-end in college, so nobody really knows how I’m going to translate as a linebacker. I have a lot of confidence in myself, and I just want to show everybody else I can do that.”
– Cable identified competition spots as strong side and middle linebacker, with Brown, Kirk Morrison and Alston competing for two starting spots, as well as the No. 3 quarterback spot between Bruce Gradkowski and Charlie Frye.
“The battle’s not really between me and another quarterback,” Gradkowski said. “The battle’s between me and myself. That’s how I look at it. That’s all I can control, is how I prepare, if I’m prepared, and go out there, I know I’m going to play my tail off and I’m gonna’ play as hard as I can, and you know, the chips will fall where they may.”
Somewhat surprisingly, Cable also mentioned center as an area of competition, even though trade acquisition Samson Satele has taken virtually every snap with the first team over John Wade.
– Among those who didn’t practice Tuesday morning were quarterback Jeff Garcia (calf), Alston (plantar fasciatis), cornerback Jason Horton, S Michael Huff (ribs), lineman Mark Wilson (back), defensive end Greg Ellis (day off) and Gerard Warren day off).
Horton left practice in a protective boot, putting his status against Dallas in doubt.
Safety Mike Mitchell missed the end of practice and was having his hamstring stretched by a trainer on the field. Usually one of the last Raiders to leave the field house for daily work his hamstrings, Mitchell was considerably earlier Tuesday and could miss the first preseason game if the Raiders want to play it safe with their second-round draft pick.
– Cable reiterated he expected starters to play approximately a quarter against the Cowboys.
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August 11th, 2009 at 3:28 pm
Numero Uno!
August 11th, 2009 at 3:28 pm
They better blitz! get some pressure, disrupt the timing and let the speed of the secondary do what they can do
August 11th, 2009 at 3:30 pm
Jeez Jerry, cut the kid a break lol.
“Norris is apparently of the opinion that the Raiders are global even in a preseason opener that will be tape-delayed in the home market.”
August 11th, 2009 at 3:36 pm
Hmm… no Sands listed on the depth chart?
DHB listed ahead of the pack …good stuff for him. Now that I think about it, Walker may not start simply because he’s coming off major surgery and won’t get many reps/games in. They’ll work him in slowly probably unless he forces them to play him.
Expect DMC to start at the beginning of the season
August 11th, 2009 at 3:37 pm
CUT GARCIA SIGN VICK!
August 11th, 2009 at 3:38 pm
I was hoping to see Mitchell play Thursday. Damn.
August 11th, 2009 at 3:40 pm
I hope T. Howard is right. I’m predicting at least 10 sacks for #53 this year. He’s the most athletic LB in the league. No reason for him not to be blitzing often.
August 11th, 2009 at 3:41 pm
Forget Vick, cut Garcia and keep Frye.
August 11th, 2009 at 3:43 pm
WESTRAIDER Says:
August 11th, 2009 at 3:37 pm
CUT GARCIA SIGN VICK!
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How about just cutting Garcia and sign his wife to a contract?
August 11th, 2009 at 3:44 pm
Finally they’re using Howard’s speed to get pressure. Speed is only a weapon if you use it.
August 11th, 2009 at 3:46 pm
Fargas atop the depth chart is depressing.
August 11th, 2009 at 3:48 pm
If I am correct its our right side of the O line that needs some work, is that where Howard came from untouched?
August 11th, 2009 at 3:51 pm
Bye Garcia, Hello Vick!
August 11th, 2009 at 3:52 pm
Fargas SUCKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
August 11th, 2009 at 3:52 pm
Did I post that too fast?
August 11th, 2009 at 3:54 pm
Could be they think someone is stupid enough to believe that Fargas is that good and will give a high draft choice for him. LMFAO
August 11th, 2009 at 3:57 pm
Fargas is a very good runner. Give the man his credit. Runs hard. Runs tough. And knows where to go.
I still think they favor DMC/Bush and either will start this season (likely DMC); but Fargas is still a pretty damn good runner.
August 11th, 2009 at 3:59 pm
Lynn From Snot Says:
August 11th, 2009 at 3:44 pm
Speed is only a weapon if you use it.
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Weapons are only weapons if you use them.
And DMac & Bush are sitting behind Fargas.
August 11th, 2009 at 4:00 pm
I am so freakin sick of hearing everybody talk about pressure. Rob Ryan used to say the word alot too. Big deal. Until we actually see the Raiders apply pressure or blitz packages on a more frequent basis, then its pointless to even discuss. Every year we’re going to blitz more or whatever. Its retarded that we prepare our own offense with blitzes but we don’t blitz enough despite knowing that blitzing affects the offenses rhythm and all that. Until it happens…whatever!!!
August 11th, 2009 at 4:01 pm
Bummer about Mitchell, was hoping to see him TKO a cowgirl…
August 11th, 2009 at 4:01 pm
I just don’t understand starting Fargas. I mean WTF? If the starters are only playing the 1st quarter, then Fargas is in for the 1st quarter and McFadden, Bush and Rankin are covering the last 3 quarters. Why not just start McFadden? Its fukin stupid. Is Fargas on scholarship? Is McFadden today’s Marcus Allen or what?
August 11th, 2009 at 4:02 pm
Terrapin
Fargas has 698 career caries with 7 TD’s. C’mon.
August 11th, 2009 at 4:03 pm
Hopefully “Mr. Pain” gets some snaps on Thurs.
August 11th, 2009 at 4:05 pm
Fargas knows how to run into a tackley like a moth knows how to fly into a bug zapper
August 11th, 2009 at 4:05 pm
tackler*
August 11th, 2009 at 4:07 pm
I truly doubt Huggy will get the majority of carries even with Yuckmouth and his turkey bag rooting him on.
August 11th, 2009 at 4:07 pm
Wow. Fargas is a good runner. Considering hes a football player, I would hope he could run. Running isn’t the problem. Its the results after the run thats the problem and the outcome always seems to be the same.
August 11th, 2009 at 4:09 pm
I don’t know why we’d put so much into the Fargas “starting” issue for a preseason game… it’s undeniable he’s a hard runner… and a decent blocker… it’s not like he’s La-whiff-Jordan ( with the bronco’s now? ). I’d actually prefer to see him start “this” game than the San Diego game…
August 11th, 2009 at 4:10 pm
I too was hoping to see Mitchell taser some cowboys.
August 11th, 2009 at 4:10 pm
tazer?
August 11th, 2009 at 4:12 pm
Yeah. Thats for his career …but the last two years he’s been runnin really good.
Listen, I think you all are squabbling over nothing. McFadden will likely start the season. Fargas is just listed there out of respect imo.
August 11th, 2009 at 4:15 pm
Terrapin Says:
August 11th, 2009 at 4:12 pm
Yeah. Thats for his career …but the last two years he’s been runnin really good.
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218 carries, 1 TD in 2008′. C’mon.
August 11th, 2009 at 4:16 pm
If they come out passing on thursday you will see Fargas in, if they wanna see what they can do running the ball, DMAC and Bush will be there.
August 11th, 2009 at 4:19 pm
How about some TD’s? If Fargas had more of those, he’d have more respect and don’t say its because of the offense because McFadden and Bush have more TD’s combined that Fargas over his entire career and they did it in 1 year. If Cable is thinking about starting Fargas now, why wouldn’t he think of starting him in the regular season? Wouldn’t you think it would be better to put your starting running back in with the 1st offense so he can earn his own respect and rhythm with the team?
August 11th, 2009 at 4:20 pm
TDs are what matter but the team in general wasn’t scoring much with all the newness around (rookies, coach …u name it). Fargas avg 4.5ypc in ‘07 and 3.9ypc in ‘08 ..playing through injury. Give the guy his credit.
August 11th, 2009 at 4:20 pm
Even so..McFadden and Bush are great receivers. I’d rather see them run out into the flats so when that OLB blitzes from the outside, you dump it off to those guys for big gains. That will keep those guys from blitzing real quick.
August 11th, 2009 at 4:21 pm
From espn:
Three and Out: Raiders
August 11, 2009 9:30 AM
Posted by ESPN.com’s Bill Williamson
quick hits on the Oakland Raiders:
Watch out for a young receiver… it just may not be the one Oakland paid to excel. Second-year receiver Chaz Schilens may be a diamond in the rough. He has had a strong training camp and looks primed to be a starter. He finished last season as a starter. Schilens, who was drafted in the seventh round out of San Diego State in 2008, looks primed for a big season. He is big and he’s fast and the game doesn’t seem to be too big for him. The Raiders really need a young receiver to emerge. The team drafted Darrius Heyward-Bey with the No. 7 pick this year and paid him more than $23 million in guaranteed money. Still, Heyward-Bey looks like he will need some time to develop, so Schilens may have to be the answer in 2009. It looks like he may be up to the task.
August 11th, 2009 at 4:21 pm
24 – I don’t see how you can hate a guy so much that runs so hard for the team. Puts himself on the line all the time. We all know DMC is goign to be the starter so why squabble about it?
August 11th, 2009 at 4:23 pm
Bush – 95 Attempts 3 TDs
McFadden – 113 Attempts 4 TDs
Fargas – 218 Attempts 1 TD
I’m sorry but all these guys were running behind the same line and this is the results. There are playmakers and there are people who don’t make plays.
August 11th, 2009 at 4:26 pm
Terrapin – What else is he supposed to do? Not run? His job is to run hard. Any starting RB is supposed to run hard. Its like saying in baseball…Yeah but the guy really tries. He really swings the bat hard. Well thats great but if the guy doesn’t make the necessary contact and has an average around .200 or below, it doesn’t matter how hard he plays or swings the bat. Its the same concept. Its not about how hard a player plays or runs or swings…its about results and its this favoritism that has kept our team bad over the last 6 years. Sure, keep all the guys that don’t get your plus results and the last 6 years is the outcome. If you want that, you don’t want to win.
August 11th, 2009 at 4:27 pm
Its hard to score as a running back when your staying in to block or playing catch up for the past 4 years.
August 11th, 2009 at 4:27 pm
Terp…………what damn credit are we suppose to give him?
August 11th, 2009 at 4:28 pm
Terrapin Says:
August 11th, 2009 at 4:21 pm
24 – I don’t see how you can hate a guy so much that runs so hard for the team
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WTF, who said anything about HATE. This IS NOT ABOUT HATE. It’s about using our best players.
We DO NOT ALL KNOW DMAC IS GOING TO BE THE STARTER. If we did, we would not be arguing!
August 11th, 2009 at 4:28 pm
I’m just tired of all the excuses for these players who haven’t accomplished anything. Alvis Whitted ran really hard to. I guess thats why he stuck around for what…8 years? Barry Sims played hard…you still want these guys around?
August 11th, 2009 at 4:29 pm
Why hate on Fargas, he epitomizes what it is to be a Raider. No one else on this Raider team bleeds Silver and Black like Justin Fargas.
August 11th, 2009 at 4:29 pm
Com’on dude. I’m not saying Fargas is better! I’m just saying he’s not as bad as you all so called fans make him out to be. Fargas has always been all-Raider since he came in the league. Give the guy some respect.
Your stats are close to meaningless …completely ignores the plays called and/or the situation (red zone carries, etc)
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Not sayin you hate him KK. But some others have some serious venom.
August 11th, 2009 at 4:30 pm
Lynn…Again, how did McFadden and Bush get 7 TD’s combined while Fargas got 1 TD with more carries? Were McFadden and Bush blocking the whole time too?
August 11th, 2009 at 4:31 pm
# KoolKell Says:
August 11th, 2009 at 4:28 pm
Terrapin Says:
August 11th, 2009 at 4:21 pm
24 – I don’t see how you can hate a guy so much that runs so hard for the team
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WTF, who said anything about HATE. This IS NOT ABOUT HATE. It’s about using our best players.
We DO NOT ALL KNOW DMAC IS GOING TO BE THE STARTER. If we did, we would not be arguing!
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Must be the summer heat because Kell I agree 100 pct with you
August 11th, 2009 at 4:32 pm
Whatever dudes. This is barely worth discussion. You all are talking about nothing. Its like complaining so-n-so is ahead of Manning when YOU KNOW Manning is going to start anyway!
Stop whining. Somebody put a bottle in their mouths.
August 11th, 2009 at 4:33 pm
The love Farglass and Morrison get on this site is amazing. Some of you guy remind me of those parents in youth football who want their kid to get playing time eventhough you know he isnt any good. Youth football is over with for these guys. Either you get the job done or not
August 11th, 2009 at 4:33 pm
Your stats are close to meaningless …completely ignores the plays called and/or the situation (red zone carries, etc)
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Stats don’t lie, anecdotes do.
August 11th, 2009 at 4:33 pm
See…this is the problem. I don’t hate Fargas at all. I just want the best players to play the game. Somehow, some of you have this “friend” mentality about you. Its like starting a guy because hes your friend and not the best player. Its like starting your own child because hes your own child instead of the better player. Theres no discipline in that. Someone on this team needs to be the boss and see through the…”Well…hes a nice guy and he runs hard” because thats not the fukin point. I’m happy he runs hard but McFadden and Bush are better and they produce more so I want them to start.
If Fargas had 7 TD’s and McFadden/Bush had 1 between the 2, I would say Fargas should start but thats not the case is it?
August 11th, 2009 at 4:34 pm
Haha Terp used manning as an example? Bad example my friend. Manning was starting from day 1. There is a little difference in Oakland dont ya think?
August 11th, 2009 at 4:35 pm
Raider323 – Fargas epitomizes what the Raiders stand for? What is that? Not scoring touchdowns? Maybe you’re right. Now if you’re like me and you want to score TD’s, you’ll start someone else.
August 11th, 2009 at 4:35 pm
The example doesn’t matter. As long as you get the point. You are arguing over NOTHING!
August 11th, 2009 at 4:36 pm
Kell, stats are misleading to some extent but the fact that Farglass is awful in short down and redzone plays is indisputable. Do we need to keep mentioning he isnt a threat out of the backfield? That limits an offense and how other Raider supporters ignore this baffles me
August 11th, 2009 at 4:36 pm
Terrapin – Are you going to whine if Fargas doesn’t start then? I mean…wouldn’t that be a travesty considering he runs hard? Aren’t you going to pull for him over McFadden/Bush? Isn’t he your guy since you believe he produces so well?
August 11th, 2009 at 4:37 pm
Brien The General Says:
August 11th, 2009 at 4:31 pm
Must be the summer heat because Kell I agree 100 pct with you
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Gosh, that’s reassuring. Would your liege, Oakglenn King of the Trolls say approve?
August 11th, 2009 at 4:37 pm
WaaaWWAAAAAWAAAAAA ….geeezzz put a lid on it will ya
I’m done with this completely POINTLESS convo
August 11th, 2009 at 4:37 pm
Ok…maybe last years stats are meaninless but how does a starting RB have 7 TD’s in 6 years when McFadden/Bush have 7 combined as backups last year? Anybody?
August 11th, 2009 at 4:38 pm
Awesome, Brian is back! How’ve you been my silly little friend! Man, you should’ve seen KrappyKell earlier today, he was trying to convice the world that me and Oakglenn were the same person. What a loon!
Then he kept posting all the wacky links to some medical article to try and prove his point. I’ll tell you, Brian – the guys in the white coats almost pulled up to this front door and hauled him off for good.
Great stuff, dude!
August 11th, 2009 at 4:38 pm
Terrapin – Theres no reason to get hurt by this. Its a debate, isn’t that what we’re here for? Are you already burnt out on Raider talk? You have no stamina man and this is a guy who has put up with no winning for 6 seasons.
August 11th, 2009 at 4:39 pm
The example doesnt matter? You used a supreme QB who had the keys from day 1 to justify the Farglass’ saga! Come on man. It isnt the same at all!
We all want to win I’m sure but that was awful and no I didnt get the point because you dont have a point.
August 11th, 2009 at 4:40 pm
Beech
You little fa66ot, why don’t you get a life?
August 11th, 2009 at 4:41 pm
# beeecham Says:
August 11th, 2009 at 4:38 pm
Awesome, Brian is back! How’ve you been my silly little friend! Man, you should’ve seen KrappyKell earlier today, he was trying to convice the world that me and Oakglenn were the same person. What a loon!
Then he kept posting all the wacky links to some medical article to try and prove his point. I’ll tell you, Brian – the guys in the white coats almost pulled up to this front door and hauled him off for good.
Great stuff, dude!
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And good day to my fair lady. The usual spew of nada from your effeminate self gets boring after a while. You bring nada to the table but 4th grade humor and hardly discuss football at all. Me and Kell have our issues no doubt but at least he talks about football. And no you and Oakglenn arent the same person. Oakglenn is a bumbling closet cased loser
August 11th, 2009 at 4:41 pm
I meant to say isnt……..Oakglenn and I are quite cool. I look up to the guy. You outta do the same
August 11th, 2009 at 4:42 pm
# KoolKell Says:
August 11th, 2009 at 4:40 pm
Beech
You little fa66ot, why don’t you get a life?
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They do its called TRAPPED IN THE CLOSET
August 11th, 2009 at 4:42 pm
Never mind, I forgot you’re a Psyco-Path.
August 11th, 2009 at 4:44 pm
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/rumors/post/Raiders-also-interested-in-OLB-Brooks-?urn=nfl,182264
August 11th, 2009 at 4:44 pm
# 24 Says:
August 11th, 2009 at 4:38 pm
Terrapin – Theres no reason to get hurt by this. Its a debate, isn’t that what we’re here for? Are you already burnt out on Raider talk? You have no stamina man and this is a guy who has put up with no winning for 6 seasons.
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Sometimes I wonder what motives people have in defending those who are inferior talent wise, especially for a team that has been awful for a long time
August 11th, 2009 at 4:45 pm
Oh god 408………tu serio?
August 11th, 2009 at 4:46 pm
Kell…………i must ask you, do you really feel confident about our NT situation. I just dont see Gerard Warren as a starter that takes up 2 blockers effectively
August 11th, 2009 at 4:49 pm
Brooks old as hell, cant Kirk just play SLB and get it over with?
August 11th, 2009 at 4:49 pm
relax fellas… it’s just pre-season depth chart.
I wouldn’t want Mcfadden startin just yet. Besides they’ll probably share carries. I’d be more worried bout our Defensive Tackles. and that RT spot is just like a tiny piece of popcornthat got stuck in my tooth.
August 11th, 2009 at 4:50 pm
I say… bring brooks on board!
August 11th, 2009 at 4:51 pm
Brien The General Says:
August 11th, 2009 at 4:46 pm
Kell…………i must ask you, do you really feel confident about our NT situation.
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No. If we can score and control Time of Poss, we should be able to win a few more games.
Kelly is as much of a question as anyone on the team. Played 1 healthy year?
Sands has a lousy motor.
Warren, I think is the most solid, surprisingly, but never a NT….
August 11th, 2009 at 4:53 pm
Ha ha, Brian, you’re just as silly as ever!
Anyway, you see how nutty old Krappy has been the last couple of days. Next thing you know the old goat will be trying to prove that Dakota is also Charged Down.
As far as football goes, I’m always open to a healthy debate. I just assumed you were more interested in women’s fashion – with your slender, feminine build – then in men’s sports.
Hey have you met the Lady Raccoon? She lives in South Sacramento, but I have a feeling you two would really hit it off.
Krappy – psychopath is one word. No hyphen.
August 11th, 2009 at 4:54 pm
# Brien the General Says:
August 11th, 2009 at 4:46 pm
Kell…………i must ask you, do you really feel confident about our NT situation. I just dont see Gerard Warren as a starter that takes up 2 blockers effectively
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Like it or not, Warren was pretty clearly our best DT last year and from the camp reports sounds like he will be again in 2009.
August 11th, 2009 at 4:55 pm
Brooks is not the player he once was, evident in the game against Tampa when Bush ran right past him.
August 11th, 2009 at 4:56 pm
Beech
Are you still a bed-wetter?
August 11th, 2009 at 4:57 pm
Brooks plays weakside linebacker so I don’t know where he’d fit in. Maybe as a backup which isn’t bad.
August 11th, 2009 at 4:58 pm
Brooks is younger than Romanowski when he joined the Raiders, I believe. Could be a great mentor for Morrison and Howard. Not sure if he can play the strong side since he’s always been a WLB, but I wouldn’t mind it if the Raiders take a look to find out. Plus Brooks could eat up some of the coverage responsibilities and allow T-Howard to blitz more.
Having said that, I think he’ll wind up in New Orleans.
August 11th, 2009 at 4:58 pm
Bitchems………….you sure are into another man’s build. Very 49erish of you. You sound like that diva Craptree. Maybe you can tryout for one of the VH1 reality shows. I got a great idea call it ” Bitchems is Out of the Closet”. I bet the 49er faithful would send the ratings through the clouds
August 11th, 2009 at 4:59 pm
I would prefer picking up a big run stopper instead of an old line backer
August 11th, 2009 at 5:00 pm
Krappy, what is with you and hyphens? I know they taught punctuation in the 30s.
August 11th, 2009 at 5:00 pm
LOL bitchems…..slender build, but before hand you accused me of being fat and bald lol. I guess Chad Johnson who is my height and weight is slender like a woman hahahahahahaha. Bitchems you reach all day with garbage humor. Just stop a pop another vicedon so you can relax when it gets pushed in
August 11th, 2009 at 5:00 pm
Beeecham Says:
August 11th, 2009 at 4:53 pm
Krappy – psychopath is one word. No hyphen.
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I’m sure you’re very familiar with the word. When were you first diagnosed, adolescence?
(Bed wetting, cruelty to animals)
http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/antisocial-personality-disorder/DS00829
August 11th, 2009 at 5:03 pm
# KoolKell Says:
August 11th, 2009 at 4:56 pm
Beech
Are you still a bed-wetter?
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She was a squirt machine during her heyday as a porn star
August 11th, 2009 at 5:04 pm
# Lynn from Snot Says:
August 11th, 2009 at 4:59 pm
I would prefer picking up a big run stopper instead of an old line backer
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Hollis Thomas? He is 35 but man we are gonna have trouble stopping the run unless we get someone
August 11th, 2009 at 5:04 pm
Brian and Krappy, sorry to say I gotta leave the blog for the day, but I look forward to more enlightening dialogue tomorrow.
You two are just a priceless combination! Don’t change!
Actually, that just goes for Brian. Krappy, you’re a mess and we need to get you hosed down asap.
August 11th, 2009 at 5:05 pm
# Chris in NY Says:
August 11th, 2009 at 4:54 pm
# Brien the General Says:
August 11th, 2009 at 4:46 pm
Kell…………i must ask you, do you really feel confident about our NT situation. I just dont see Gerard Warren as a starter that takes up 2 blockers effectively
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Like it or not, Warren was pretty clearly our best DT last year and from the camp reports sounds like he will be again in 2009.
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Chris always enjoyed your posts and insight but we disagree here. Tommy Kelly was the Raiders best DT last year. Warren can rush the passer and thats about it. He plays the run awful as an NT
August 11th, 2009 at 5:07 pm
Start Bush. Play DMcF often and in a wide variety of roles, lots of in motion. I love SonofHuggy but he needs to be more spot duty, maybe OBVIOUS passing downs, give Bush a breather, or starting role when injuries pop up.
I’ll believe the blitzing more is real WHEN it happens consistently. Until then I am skeptical and bitter about it.
August 11th, 2009 at 5:08 pm
# beeecham Says:
August 11th, 2009 at 5:04 pm
Brian and Krappy, sorry to say I gotta leave the blog for the day, but I look forward to more enlightening dialogue tomorrow.
You two are just a priceless combination! Don’t change!
Actually, that just goes for Brian. Krappy, you’re a mess and we need to get you hosed down asap.
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Gotta go to that women counseling program for former strippers, porn stars and prostitutes? Well Bitchem those ladies have a great role model in you! You are doing a community service and therefore I can find no wrong with you. What Lifetime movie will they watch this week? Will it be the one based on your rape as a little girl? Or the one where you lost out as prom queen?
August 11th, 2009 at 5:10 pm
# KoolKell Says:
August 11th, 2009 at 4:51 pm
Brien The General Says:
August 11th, 2009 at 4:46 pm
Kell…………i must ask you, do you really feel confident about our NT situation.
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No. If we can score and control Time of Poss, we should be able to win a few more games.
Kelly is as much of a question as anyone on the team. Played 1 healthy year?
Sands has a lousy motor.
Warren, I think is the most solid, surprisingly, but never a NT….
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Kelly was healthy in 2006 right?And 2005? He has shown ability to be healthy and it says alot about him staying healthy after destroying his knee. At least he looks quicker in camp. Sands is disappointing because he is our only true NT. Warren isnt a NT. Why the hell do people not see this. He was drafted as a UT and played that in his career
August 11th, 2009 at 5:13 pm
# JLofty Says:
August 11th, 2009 at 5:07 pm
Start Bush. Play DMcF often and in a wide variety of roles, lots of in motion. I love SonofHuggy but he needs to be more spot duty, maybe OBVIOUS passing downs, give Bush a breather, or starting role when injuries pop up.
I’ll believe the blitzing more is real WHEN it happens consistently. Until then I am skeptical and bitter about it.
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I like Bush as much as the next person but start over DMAC? Never. Why in the hell is this use in a variety of roles thing still being said? Use him at WR alot? Well then what the fuk what the point in drafting DHB? We have other WR like JLH and Chaz. I’m all for using Dmac but his main function needs to be RB. That is why we drafted him
August 11th, 2009 at 5:14 pm
# Brien the General Says:
August 11th, 2009 at 5:05 pm
# Chris in NY Says:
August 11th, 2009 at 4:54 pm
# Brien the General Says:
August 11th, 2009 at 4:46 pm
Kell…………i must ask you, do you really feel confident about our NT situation. I just dont see Gerard Warren as a starter that takes up 2 blockers effectively
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Like it or not, Warren was pretty clearly our best DT last year and from the camp reports sounds like he will be again in 2009.
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Chris always enjoyed your posts and insight but we disagree here. Tommy Kelly was the Raiders best DT last year. Warren can rush the passer and thats about it. He plays the run awful as an NT
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The thing I like about Kelly is that he’s so fast he’s in the backfield before the ball is snapped.
August 11th, 2009 at 5:15 pm
What up Nation?
I wouldn’t mind having Brooks too but it’s wishful thinking. The Reason: Jon Gruden. He was down here in New Orleans last week and attended practice three days as a special guest of Sean Payton. He even spoke to the team after a practice. Gruden was endorsing Brooks the whole time down here and Brooks is here right not probably eating dinner at Emeril’s with Gregg Williams and Payton.
Brooks will be in Oakland on the 29th as a member of the visiting Saints. Hate to say that. Maybe I should go down there and do something to Brooks to make him feel like the people here are crazy and he shouldn’t live here.
August 11th, 2009 at 5:15 pm
I think the fat man left Turd off the depth chart, as a way to attempt to motivate him to step it up.
If Turd doesn’t step it up, the axe awaits.
August 11th, 2009 at 5:16 pm
When its 3rd down I assume the WRs are chaz,dhb and jlh with miller as the TE…………and then dmac would be the fifth guy that can go out for a pass. You mean to tell me on first down when we are 2 WR 1 TE and 2 RB put dmac in the slot and use no fullback? What about when we got double tight end?……………I’m curious to know
August 11th, 2009 at 5:18 pm
909, my friend if that damn contract he signed two years ago and the fact he lost his starting spot doesnt then I have no clue what will. I’m for the guy to do well because no one else on the team can play NT
August 11th, 2009 at 5:18 pm
Sure wish Mike Mitchell plays and starts vs Dallas. He would surely take out a starter or two. Let him sit out the next game. Dallas is the only team on the pre-season and reg season schedule.
August 11th, 2009 at 5:19 pm
Having a debate over who is better between Warren and Kelly probably means that neither played well and needs to step up this year in order for us to be successful against the run as well as the pass. They have both underachieved, lets just say that.
August 11th, 2009 at 5:19 pm
Damn Brooks. It is the youth movement here. We signed our vets where it was needed at LDE and FB. All that is left is NT and we are cool…………..until Cable messes it up starting Farglass
August 11th, 2009 at 5:20 pm
TW,
LMAO
August 11th, 2009 at 5:20 pm
# 909RaiderLifer Says:
August 11th, 2009 at 5:15 pm
I think the fat man left Turd off the depth chart, as a way to attempt to motivate him to step it up.
If Turd doesn’t step it up, the axe awaits.
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I agree. Turdell is going to need to really stand out in the preseason games to keep his job. It’s weird because he really did look good a couple of seasons ago and came into camp in shape this year. Maybe he just doesn’t have the — for lack of a better word — hunger to play the game at a high level anymore.
August 11th, 2009 at 5:21 pm
24, I totally disagree with that. NT and UT are much different positions. If you watch the games last year Kelly was abnormally doubled for being a UT. You know why that was? It was because anyone with sense knows Warren isnt a NT and he tries to shoot the gaps instead of playing disciplined NT run defense. The second half of the year Kelly played well as his knee was getting back to normal
August 11th, 2009 at 5:21 pm
What bothers me about the SS position is that Mitchell and Branch are battling for it which means the loser could be on the bench and I would hate to see either of those guys on the bench. Here’s hoping the winner takes FS instead but if they don’t practice there, theres no guarentee right?
August 11th, 2009 at 5:22 pm
What exactly is DT Des Bryant doing for us at camp? Does he make Turd expendable. Dude went to Harvard so his brain at least matches Turds gut. That’s gotta count for something.
August 11th, 2009 at 5:23 pm
My man is back!, looks like the door has been opened.
Great to read your comments, oh by the way
GROVE SUCKSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
August 11th, 2009 at 5:23 pm
I’ve met and talked with Sands many times at the local Chili’s and also Ricky’s bar. I want him to start if he is up to it. Reports right now arent looking so good though. If Warren starts at NT we are in deep trouble vs SD on sept 14tth. The team will have to win a shootout
August 11th, 2009 at 5:25 pm
# Raider Dell Says:
August 11th, 2009 at 5:23 pm
My man is back!, looks like the door has been opened.
Great to read your comments, oh by the way
GROVE SUCKSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
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Brien<———–is amped to see the Delly Mac back in effect
Brien<—–told you Grove was garbage
Brien<——–very happy to be back since folks are fearful to put MR aka Dude aka Crow and Bitchem in check
Whats good Dell?
August 11th, 2009 at 5:25 pm
Sands seems to be a product of Rob Ryan’s relaxed approach to defense. It seems more like he was friends with his players instead of their boss and it doesn’t help that he seemed to confuse the defense with his ideas. So 1. He was too friendly and 2. He wasn’t good at teaching his players his own ideas in order to implement them on the field to be successful which put them out of position too often.
Marshall seems to be the boss and is more concerned with making sure his players work hard but also understand what their roles are in this defense. A big departure from Rob Ryan.
August 11th, 2009 at 5:26 pm
24 Says:
August 11th, 2009 at 5:21 pm
What bothers me about the SS position is that Mitchell and Branch are battling for it which means the loser could be on the bench and I would hate to see either of those guys on the bench. Here’s hoping the winner takes FS instead but if they don’t practice there, theres no guarentee right?
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Yeah but either way is an upgrade over last year. Plus its the first step for the loser to go after the other Safety spot.
August 11th, 2009 at 5:26 pm
# 24 Says:
August 11th, 2009 at 5:21 pm
What bothers me about the SS position is that Mitchell and Branch are battling for it which means the loser could be on the bench and I would hate to see either of those guys on the bench. Here’s hoping the winner takes FS instead but if they don’t practice there, theres no guarentee right?
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Trouble Trouble Trouble. Eugene sucks and Huff needs to go to the wizard of Oz to find some heart
August 11th, 2009 at 5:27 pm
The Fargas, Kelly and Sands debate has been on going it seems forever. The comments have prodded, picked, split hairs, used facts, numbers and overall prayed and hoped for better.
My comment is if it looks like a duck,quacks like a duck then it is a duck.
August 11th, 2009 at 5:27 pm
# 24 Says:
August 11th, 2009 at 5:25 pm
Sands seems to be a product of Rob Ryan’s relaxed approach to defense. It seems more like he was friends with his players instead of their boss and it doesn’t help that he seemed to confuse the defense with his ideas. So 1. He was too friendly and 2. He wasn’t good at teaching his players his own ideas in order to implement them on the field to be successful which put them out of position too often.
Marshall seems to be the boss and is more concerned with making sure his players work hard but also understand what their roles are in this defense. A big departure from Rob Ryan.
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Dont let MR read that post you know he will have a field day. It is Al’s defense remember
August 11th, 2009 at 5:28 pm
You can’t build a Dline with 2 UFA DTs, late RDs DEs, and a few FAs.
We need to invest more in our front 4!!!
August 11th, 2009 at 5:29 pm
Raider Dell – Yeah but what if that duck runs really really hard? hahaha.
August 11th, 2009 at 5:30 pm
We should trade for that Derrick Burgess guy…oh wait! Haha.
August 11th, 2009 at 5:30 pm
# Raider Dell Says:
August 11th, 2009 at 5:27 pm
The Fargas, Kelly and Sands debate has been on going it seems forever. The comments have prodded, picked, split hairs, used facts, numbers and overall prayed and hoped for better.
My comment is if it looks like a duck,quacks like a duck then it is a duck.
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Please leave Jeff Garbage-cia out of this
August 11th, 2009 at 5:30 pm
24
Then he is from Oregon, I think!
August 11th, 2009 at 5:31 pm
Hey…Jeff doesn’t need to practice, he has a hot girlfriend.
August 11th, 2009 at 5:31 pm
Raider Dell – Hah.
August 11th, 2009 at 5:32 pm
Axe the Duck!!!
August 11th, 2009 at 5:33 pm
# 24 Says:
August 11th, 2009 at 5:30 pm
We should trade for that Derrick Burgess guy…oh wait! Haha.
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Pull up the archive from april 2008 and guess who said to get rid of that POS? I’ll take another bow
August 11th, 2009 at 5:34 pm
# 24 Says:
August 11th, 2009 at 5:31 pm
Hey…Jeff doesn’t need to practice, he has a hot girlfriend.
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Rock Hudson had fine women too. Your point?
August 11th, 2009 at 5:34 pm
Raider O
Some PETA member may report you to the FBODH
“FEDERAL BUREAU OF DUCK HATERS”
August 11th, 2009 at 5:34 pm
# 24 Says:
August 11th, 2009 at 5:29 pm
Raider Dell – Yeah but what if that duck runs really really hard? hahaha.
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AFLAC!
August 11th, 2009 at 5:35 pm
There wasn’t a DT last year worth drafting high and the jury is still out on this years DTs.
Please don’t mention Sedrick Ellis because he is just average and nothing to write home about. Like I said two days ago. I listen to Saints Radio on the drive home from work and Ellis’ name was not mention in the last 5 days. And Glen Dorsey is way out of shape and backing up a scrub right now.
August 11th, 2009 at 5:35 pm
http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=Carmella+DeCesare&qpvt=Carmella+DeCesare&FORM=Z7FD&filt=custom#focal=eea98817f1a1cc9d5b37cffc8f65aefe&furl=http%3A%2F%2Flh6.ggpht.com%2Fthuongnhan1986%2FSKIoerCNypI%2FAAAAAAAATRI%2FlVhE35NO8FY%2Fdigi_Bikini060_Carmella_DeCesare.jpg
Jeff Garcia’s Wife
August 11th, 2009 at 5:36 pm
Walker needs to be next. Whats the point in keeping him. Chaz is the no.1 and JLH or DHB will be no. 2. Where does Walker fit?
August 11th, 2009 at 5:37 pm
Hah…Justin Fargas’ new nickname. AFLAC! Fargas should just be insurance in case McFadden and Bush get hurt.
August 11th, 2009 at 5:37 pm
Javon Walker will have a breakout year. You heard it here first.
August 11th, 2009 at 5:37 pm
Sedrick Ellis=hahahahahahahahahahahaha. Wow that was funny last draft when people lobbied for that shrimp of a DT
August 11th, 2009 at 5:39 pm
24………….AZraider always speaks about javon. I’m not buying it right now. I’d rather see Chaz,JLH,DHB and LMurph get the snaps
August 11th, 2009 at 5:39 pm
Dell,
Duck Hater!! LMAO
What is PETA going to do, throw paint at my pillows?!
August 11th, 2009 at 5:41 pm
Fargas = AFLAC!!
I love it! LMAO
August 11th, 2009 at 5:41 pm
Brien – Chaz may have a breakout year but I think Walker could have ALOT to do with that if he shows his true abilities because Chaz could be faced with the #2 corner each game and could wreak havoc on them if hes ready. I really like JLH because hes a playmaker but thats what makes him great for the slot in my opinion. I really don’t think DHB and Murphy will be ready to make a big contribution this season unless they’re forced into it.
August 11th, 2009 at 5:42 pm
Where is the knowledge dropping Jhill?
August 11th, 2009 at 5:44 pm
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August 11th, 2009 at 5:44 pm
listen at some point we have to start looking at this Hb thing as YOU make your own breaks. If DMC and Bush want to start they have to beat out the old man. They have to demonstrate in practice that they have evrything down and that the coaches can rrely on them in every package. if that is not happening how can we continue to blame Fargas and the coaches. It appears DHB has grabbed the starting WR position and DMC and Bush have to do the same thing.
Calling the coach stupid and questioning his decission making IMO is faulty. His ASS is on the line and I don’t think anybody in here will lose a dime if he gets fired. So just like ZMiller TOOK the starting job these two need to do the same thing. Prove it in practice.
I don’t know if the depth chart is right or wrong but if it is right that is THEIR fault. Not coaches and certainly not the Fargas’s.
August 11th, 2009 at 5:44 pm
According to D White, D Brooks has been linked to the Raiders.
Very interesting!
August 11th, 2009 at 5:45 pm
# 504 Raider Says:
August 11th, 2009 at 5:35 pm
There wasn’t a DT last year worth drafting high and the jury is still out on this years DTs.
Please don’t mention Sedrick Ellis because he is just average and nothing to write home about. Like I said two days ago. I listen to Saints Radio on the drive home from work and Ellis’ name was not mention in the last 5 days. And Glen Dorsey is way out of shape and backing up a scrub right now.
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Good point.
And among this year’s DTs the only one who got any consideration as a top-10 pick was Raji, who’s not even in camp yet. And most people didn’t think he would be the No. 1 DT in most years’ drafts.
We do need help at DT though. Not sure if there are any good run stuffers left out there though. Should’ve signed Grady Jackson.
August 11th, 2009 at 5:46 pm
August 11th, 2009 at 5:35 pm
http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=Carmella+DeCesare&qpvt=Carmella+DeCesare&FORM=Z7FD&filt=custom#focal=eea98817f1a1cc9d5b37cffc8f65aefe&furl=http%3A%2F%2Flh6.ggpht.com%2Fthuongnhan1986%2FSKIoerCNypI%2FAAAAAAAATRI%2FlVhE35NO8FY%2Fdigi_Bikini060_Carmella_DeCesare.jpg
Jeff Garcia’s Wife
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OMG! WTF is Garcia doing at camp with that at home? She must be HIV+ for his old ass to want to play another year instead of hanging around the house. Thought you guys said he was a smart QB?
August 11th, 2009 at 5:47 pm
# 24 Says:
August 11th, 2009 at 5:41 pm
Brien – Chaz may have a breakout year but I think Walker could have ALOT to do with that if he shows his true abilities because Chaz could be faced with the #2 corner each game and could wreak havoc on them if hes ready. I really like JLH because hes a playmaker but thats what makes him great for the slot in my opinion. I really don’t think DHB and Murphy will be ready to make a big contribution this season unless they’re forced into it.
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Yup and remember when jlh and chaz were forced into it?
August 11th, 2009 at 5:48 pm
are we saying goodbye to the “Turd” ???
can we ???
please ???
August 11th, 2009 at 5:48 pm
Can brooks play SLB? He played WLB at Tampa, and he is a little small for a SAM. IMO
August 11th, 2009 at 5:49 pm
# priesttj Says:
August 11th, 2009 at 5:44 pm
listen at some point we have to start looking at this Hb thing as YOU make your own breaks. If DMC and Bush want to start they have to beat out the old man. They have to demonstrate in practice that they have evrything down and that the coaches can rrely on them in every package. if that is not happening how can we continue to blame Fargas and the coaches. It appears DHB has grabbed the starting WR position and DMC and Bush have to do the same thing.
Calling the coach stupid and questioning his decission making IMO is faulty. His ASS is on the line and I don’t think anybody in here will lose a dime if he gets fired. So just like ZMiller TOOK the starting job these two need to do the same thing. Prove it in practice.
I don’t know if the depth chart is right or wrong but if it is right that is THEIR fault. Not coaches and certainly not the Fargas’s.
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What about that package that has the RB make plays? Farglass never got that package down at all BHP. Anyhow good to see ya man. You held it down lately but dont you always do that?
August 11th, 2009 at 5:50 pm
# Florida Pete Says:
August 11th, 2009 at 5:48 pm
are we saying goodbye to the “Turd” ???
can we ???
please ???
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After Farglass, Walker and Green go
August 11th, 2009 at 5:50 pm
I think after all the years Brooks been in the league, he can play all three LB positions.
August 11th, 2009 at 5:51 pm
# priesttj Says:
August 11th, 2009 at 5:44 pm
listen at some point we have to start looking at this Hb thing as YOU make your own breaks. If DMC and Bush want to start they have to beat out the old man. They have to demonstrate in practice that they have evrything down and that the coaches can rrely on them in every package. if that is not happening how can we continue to blame Fargas and the coaches. It appears DHB has grabbed the starting WR position and DMC and Bush have to do the same thing.
Calling the coach stupid and questioning his decission making IMO is faulty. His ASS is on the line and I don’t think anybody in here will lose a dime if he gets fired. So just like ZMiller TOOK the starting job these two need to do the same thing. Prove it in practice.
I don’t know if the depth chart is right or wrong but if it is right that is THEIR fault. Not coaches and certainly not the Fargas’s.
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Nonsense.
The coach decides on the depth chart, not the players. Every report out of camp is that DMC and Bush look impressive and ready to go. But the coach makes the decision. That’s what he’s paid for. He has to make the right decision and if the fans don’t like the decisions he makes they have a right to complain.
Was it Mario’s fault last year that he didn’t surpass Kwame Harris on the depth chart until Week 14, or Cable’s for trotting Kwame out there despite leading the league in false starts and sacks allowed?
Having said all that, it’s just a preliminary preseason depth chart. Like Jerry says, don’t put too much stock in it.
August 11th, 2009 at 5:54 pm
We have to put alot into the depth chart. We are worried about losing 7 straight seasons man. Farglass didnt deserve to start last year nor get PT over Rhodes in 2007
August 11th, 2009 at 5:55 pm
As far as the depth chart, Fargas being #1 is a non-issue on August 13. Now if he’s there Sept 13 we got problems.
August 11th, 2009 at 5:55 pm
B is back … Wassup young man!
Disagree with ya though on a couple of points. Warren is probably our best DT, and at 6′5 330, he’s big enough to play next to Kelly. Especially with Marshall’s emphasis on gap assignments.
I am officially off the Sands reclamation project! Turned in my overalls! I agree with the depth chart.
And, I have to agree with Priest on the Fargas thing. Cable is obviously playing no favorites, so Bush and McFadden should be able to outplay him. If they don’t, then so be it. Really talking about Bush, b/c we know McFadden will be on the field.
August 11th, 2009 at 5:56 pm
Brien the General Says:
August 11th, 2009 at 5:50 pm
# Florida Pete Says:
August 11th, 2009 at 5:48 pm
are we saying goodbye to the “Turd” ???
can we ???
please ???
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After Farglass, Walker and Green go
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Brien AFLAC is the name, don’t forget.
August 11th, 2009 at 5:56 pm
Why Brooks? What are Brown, Alston, and Norris doing??
Why do we feel the need to add a 36 LB?
He is 36 years old!!!!
August 11th, 2009 at 5:57 pm
Kiffin was a damn fool to start him and dammit Cable was a damn fool last year and then defended Lame Harris. Cable will be outta job quickly if he sticks with Farglass
August 11th, 2009 at 5:58 pm
AFLAC lol. I pattened something else again. This blog was hurting without me
August 11th, 2009 at 5:59 pm
Priest – I do understand what you’re saying but I just can’t agree with Cable starting Fargas over McFadden even if its a pre-season game. Our offense is so much more explosive with McFadden in there. I just think thats common sense. If Cable’s worried about his @$$ being on the line, starting McFadden would be more security in my opinion.
August 11th, 2009 at 5:59 pm
I say trade the WR that you can get the most for. A 5th or 6th rd pick for Walker? Don’t need it. Which WR can we get a 2nd or 3rd for? I say JLH.
Justin Miller can take over the punt return duties. Nick Miller can back him up and take the #6 WR spot.
Chaz
DHB
Walker
Murphy
Miller
Holland
August 11th, 2009 at 5:59 pm
Why not bring back Frantz?? I miss Frantz. lol
August 11th, 2009 at 6:00 pm
Raider O,
The Raiders may feel that he has 3 years on Garcia so why not.
August 11th, 2009 at 6:01 pm
Trade JLH??!!!
No way!!!
August 11th, 2009 at 6:02 pm
I would never trade JLH. Hes our biggest playmaker at WR. Why would you ruin that?
August 11th, 2009 at 6:02 pm
# jhill Says:
August 11th, 2009 at 5:55 pm
B is back … Wassup young man!
Disagree with ya though on a couple of points. Warren is probably our best DT, and at 6′5 330, he’s big enough to play next to Kelly. Especially with Marshall’s emphasis on gap assignments.
I am officially off the Sands reclamation project! Turned in my overalls! I agree with the depth chart.
And, I have to agree with Priest on the Fargas thing. Cable is obviously playing no favorites, so Bush and McFadden should be able to outplay him. If they don’t, then so be it. Really talking about Bush, b/c we know McFadden will be on the field.
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Warren is big enough but doesnt play NT the correct way. The fact that Sands stopped playing hard and cant get back is the problem. He wasnt our best DT at all. He allowed Kelly to be doubled vs the run, how is that for a NT?
AFLAC aka Farglass shouldnt even be on the team. This love affair you guys have is confusing since we cant win with him. Remember AFLAC against top defenses? Yeah i did
August 11th, 2009 at 6:02 pm
You are not going to see Fargas in the I ahead of McFadden and Bush. You might see Fargas in the game at HB when DMac is in the slot.
August 11th, 2009 at 6:03 pm
In fact…JLH is not just a playmaker at WR, hes a playmaker returning the ball. He scores TD’s with the occasional brain lapse but hey…nobody’s perfect.
August 11th, 2009 at 6:03 pm
504,
LMAO makes sense!
August 11th, 2009 at 6:04 pm
Jhill, you must be hittin that LA sherm again. Trade JLH, for what? You have no one that brings what he brings at WR. He is our most elusive WR by far. No way can you tade him. Walker needs to be cut. We have enough with chaz,jlh,dhb,murphy and watkins
August 11th, 2009 at 6:04 pm
Whats funny is…if this AFLAC thing gets bigger and people start calling him that…he’ll probably think its a good thing. What he doesn’t realize is that hes the duck and the insurance part isn’t a good thing, it just means he should be 3rd string and there “just in case”.
August 11th, 2009 at 6:05 pm
Watkins is just another WR that won’t be around very long. I’d rather have Walker.
August 11th, 2009 at 6:05 pm
JaMarcus has timing issues
Raiders quarterback JaMarcus Russell continued his maddening camp trend of chasing a pretty good practice with a pretty bad one.
Raiders coach Tom Cable brought it up after Tuesday morning’s practice. And, if Cable is criticizing Russell in any way when the tape recorders are on, there is always a reason behind it — just as he was making a point in the offseason when saying Russell needed to work harder and lead more.
Cable wants to see Russell put two good practices together already. Since injured veteran Jeff Garcia isn’t healthy enough to push Russell, it looks like Cable will go back to doing the pushing.
“At times, he ripped it,” Cable said. “He had that streak where he really targeted well and all that and then he got on a roll where everything was overthrow and overthrow.”
So what’s the real issue, according to Cable?
Timing. He said the receivers are on time with their routes but Russell isn’t always on time with his throw. He holds onto the ball too long still, thinking his strong arm will buy him that extra second to get it there.
“You need to just keep reminding yourself is, get him on time when he lets it go,” Cable said. “That part is getting better but, again, you saw that stretch where it’s like 100 mph fastballs everywhere. Just be on time, not trying to throw it hard. Be on time when you let it go.”
“He just needs to speed up, just speed up, just speed up. You keep reminding him of that. You don’t have to make up with the big arm, just make it up with your timing. … You can throw all the routes on there you want, you’re getting the right depths and he can feel the route and all that but you have to feel the rush around you. That’s really what makes you on time, not necessarily what the receiver’s doing.”
Part of the trick is teaching Russell to stop relying on the speed of his ball and the strength of his arm. Obviously, the lesson isn’t being learned, thus Cable’s most exhaustive critique of training camp.
“Any quarterback who’s got a lot of arm, I think that’s a constant battle,” Cable said. “Whether it’s a young guy or old guy, you still see that because they always think they make that one play that nobody else can. “Just keep reminding him to stay on time, because he’s going to do that once in a while and you’re going to live with some of that but 95 percent of the time, let’s just keep him in rhythm.”
David White
August 11th, 2009 at 6:06 pm
Walker…80 Receptions 1200 Yards 8 TDs.
August 11th, 2009 at 6:06 pm
# jhill Says:
August 11th, 2009 at 6:02 pm
You are not going to see Fargas in the I ahead of McFadden and Bush. You might see Fargas in the game at HB when DMac is in the slot.
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And what will that do? What if the team has perfect scheme to stop that, what will AFLAC do……..go out for a pass? LOL
August 11th, 2009 at 6:06 pm
AFLAC!!
LMAO
August 11th, 2009 at 6:08 pm
Well…we all thought that maybe Garcia would be a nice example for JR but it has turned into the opposite. JR sees Garcia standing on the sidelines this whole time and thinks…why the fuk do I have to do all this and he doesn’t? In my mind, JR has taken 2 steps back watching Garcia and probably thinking that Garcia is faking the injury. If Garcia doesn’t have to practice, why should he?
August 11th, 2009 at 6:08 pm
Raider Dell Says:
August 6th, 2009 at 11:31 am
Repost for Priest, any comments?
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I was great to see the comment from Jerry Mac regarding this part of his column update.
“You saw a bunch of big holes and windows start opening up on the other side away from him,” Cable said. “And that’s what he’s going to get. Now he’s going to have to learn how to play when you’re getting someone down on you and someone on top of you.”
I was trying to post my observation of DHB and his role in the future of the Raiders offense.
The Hall of Fame is this weekend and a great Raider probably will never be voted to this great honor.
I’m speaking about Cliff Branch. Branch came to the Raiders with the same question marks bestowed on him by the media as DHB is today.
The reports and articles were said to say “his hands were suspect”, he is only a track star and could he adapt to the physicality of football. So Branch was just a speed guy and nothing else.
I know some of you that comment here are young and have heard of Branch or viewed highlights at various times on the Raiders, as they appeared on NFL Films. Branch was a big part of the Raiders success.
Branch will never get in the Hall of Fame, he was a team player, played a role for the offense. His speed created larger windows for Freddie B., and Casper, hence those larger passing windows derived what you hear commonly said by fans and reporters as the “vertical game” or sometimes also used stretch the field.
Branch could have had monsterous numbers but his role was to keep the safety on his side of the field or over the top. Could you see T.O or Ocho Cinco adapt to this role and be a team player.
Branch developed his hands with hard work and with Freddie B counseling him his routes really improved to the point he was not just a speed burner downfield. His greatest route was the comeback, today they call it a fade. Branch would run off the defender and comeback three to four yards and make the catch along the sideline. The play was so difficult to defend and Stabler honed in this pass with Branch. The play was used when the offense needed yards during the game and it seemed to be a staple of the offense.
Branch personality reminds me of DHB, Branch was a little more soft spoken and DHB has a little more personality, but both men have the drive and desire to succeed.
DHB will never lead the league in receptions or yards, his role wil be similar to what Cliff Branch offensive role. DHB will create many opportunities for Chaz, Miller, DMAC, Murphy etc..
The stats will never tell you how his speed will impact the game, but it will be noticed by defensive coordinators around the league.
When the time and opportunity arises they will create mismatches for DHB speed, and will take their shots down field, and when those plays become big yardage, the respect will be even greater for DHB.
Be patient, DHB will play a large role in the Raiders future.
August 11th, 2009 at 6:08 pm
JLH? The guy we all wanted to cut last year when he fielded that punt and ran OOB? LOL!
You trade him b/c he’s probably the guy you can get the most for, AND you want to see Murphy play, right? Right now, Murphy is behind Chaz, DHB, JLH, and Walker. We have a more than capable replacement for PRs. You guys do remember Justin Miller, right?
August 11th, 2009 at 6:08 pm
post 160
You sound like Billy Bean on that trade. Lets at least let these guys reach their potential before sending them off for picks.
August 11th, 2009 at 6:09 pm
Yeah but he did ’cause Rhodes can’t pick up a blitzer any better than DMcF. Fargas plays until the OLine gets better at PP, and the youngsters pick up the blitz consistently. Bush seems the more likely to do so and as such I say gets to be the starter. DMcF is too good not to have on the field but his inability to keep JMR protected means he may not be in the game at RB (Brien).
August 11th, 2009 at 6:09 pm
Walker= 80 punches to the face and robbed for 1200 bucks
August 11th, 2009 at 6:10 pm
From David White:
“My gosh, all the QBs are throwing it everywhere but someone’s hands. Looks like they hit another wall.”
These guys really need these preseaon games. They need to start seeing some other defenses.
August 11th, 2009 at 6:11 pm
# JLofty Says:
August 11th, 2009 at 6:09 pm
Yeah but he did ’cause Rhodes can’t pick up a blitzer any better than DMcF. Fargas plays until the OLine gets better at PP, and the youngsters pick up the blitz consistently. Bush seems the more likely to do so and as such I say gets to be the starter. DMcF is too good not to have on the field but his inability to keep JMR protected means he may not be in the game at RB (Brien).
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You reaching man. Nowhere has that ever been said until you said it. A running back is a rushing and receiving threat. If he can block then that is extra. Lets be serious
August 11th, 2009 at 6:11 pm
Chris NY, that is a report out of camp, we are not in camp and camp notes and scetchy at best. We can go on specifics but other than that how do we know who’s really outperforming who? that is purely up to the coaches……I’m not saying WHO should start I’m only saying that, that is a coaches decision…….period
I can’t foresee Fargas starting this season, that just seems wrong, but I’m not the coach. Tom Cable is and he’s starting fargas for a REASON if indeed Fargas is starting.
August 11th, 2009 at 6:12 pm
# jhill Says:
August 11th, 2009 at 6:08 pm
JLH? The guy we all wanted to cut last year when he fielded that punt and ran OOB? LOL!
You trade him b/c he’s probably the guy you can get the most for, AND you want to see Murphy play, right? Right now, Murphy is behind Chaz, DHB, JLH, and Walker. We have a more than capable replacement for PRs. You guys do remember Justin Miller, right?
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Hold on, wait a damn minute Jhill. We? I’m not in the WE category. I was the only one last year who lobbied for that guy to be on the field. I did as well for Mario and Chaz. Leave me out of the WE
August 11th, 2009 at 6:12 pm
If Justin Miller gets hurt…theres nobody as electrifying as JLH returning on this team. WR’s usually take 3 years to develop and this is JLH’s 3rd year. I’m not fukin with that.
August 11th, 2009 at 6:13 pm
You don’t like Fargas b/c he hasn’t run for long TDs? Fargas is more than capable of getting 4 or 5 yards per carry. More than capable of running against a 6 man front when DMac goes into the slot. If they adjust to that formation, that’s on JRuss to audible out. And Fargas is more than capable as a blocker in that scenario. That fact that some of you guys are acting like he shouldn’t even be on the team is laughable!
August 11th, 2009 at 6:13 pm
Go check them damn archives and you will see the WE doesnt include BRIEN
August 11th, 2009 at 6:15 pm
LOL at B taking credit as the ONLY one who lobbied for JLH, Chaz, Mario, etc.
Just like you told me about Fabes too, LOL!
My man!
August 11th, 2009 at 6:15 pm
Camp talk on CSNBayArea
August 11th, 2009 at 6:15 pm
Brien, my friend in this league if you can’t pass protect you will not see the field period.
This league is to comprehensive in schemes, a DC will force the HB to block and if he can’t you’ll get your QB KILLED………..period
August 11th, 2009 at 6:16 pm
Watkins making the team? Don’t think so. He was on the team until the 4th round of this year’s draft.
August 11th, 2009 at 6:16 pm
Brien I wouldn’t want to play QB for your team. I wouldn’t want to pay my QB $55mil on your team either.
August 11th, 2009 at 6:16 pm
# jhill Says:
August 11th, 2009 at 6:13 pm
You don’t like Fargas b/c he hasn’t run for long TDs? Fargas is more than capable of getting 4 or 5 yards per carry. More than capable of running against a 6 man front when DMac goes into the slot. If they adjust to that formation, that’s on JRuss to audible out. And Fargas is more than capable as a blocker in that scenario. That fact that some of you guys are acting like he shouldn’t even be on the team is laughable!
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I dont like Farglass because first off I hate USC players except Rey Maualuga. Also he has no big play ability. He limits the offense. 4 or 5 yards when we are behind by many points. He lacks vision and isnt versatile. You talking about audibles and sh!t but what if Farglass is the main option of the audible? Laugh all you want but the facts remain that Farglass brings nada to the table and we will in effect lose against SD if he starts.
August 11th, 2009 at 6:16 pm
You know I don’t have time for that archives crap.
We were ALL on him and his mental lapses, and we ALL wanted him on the field ahead of the slow pokes that were out there. We were ALL clamoring for some speed.
August 11th, 2009 at 6:17 pm
Brien the General Says:
August 11th, 2009 at 6:12 pm
# jhill Says:
August 11th, 2009 at 6:08 pm
JLH? The guy we all wanted to cut last year when he fielded that punt and ran OOB? LOL!
You trade him b/c he’s probably the guy you can get the most for, AND you want to see Murphy play, right? Right now, Murphy is behind Chaz, DHB, JLH, and Walker. We have a more than capable replacement for PRs. You guys do remember Justin Miller, right?
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Hold on, wait a damn minute Jhill. We? I’m not in the WE category. I was the only one last year who lobbied for that guy to be on the field. I did as well for Mario and Chaz. Leave me out of the WE
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Jhill
I do remember what Brien said, I also remember Grove sucks, Harris should be working at in n out and and AFLAC sucks, and Sands is a Sealy mattress, and Burnt Angelo is jelly on the field, and Warren is like the past President, lol.
I remember them all.
August 11th, 2009 at 6:17 pm
# JLofty Says:
August 11th, 2009 at 6:16 pm
Brien I wouldn’t want to play QB for your team. I wouldn’t want to pay my QB $55mil on your team either.
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Yeah well you love losing.
August 11th, 2009 at 6:17 pm
lets see-in the old days Van Eagan ran the ball up and down the field,then Banazak would score the TDs.so by your logic Banazak should have started over Van Eagan and possibly Van Eagan should have been cut since someone else scored the TDs.and in Tenn. C.Johnson runs up and down the field but White comes in and scores the TDs.so why doesn’t White start and Johnson get cut?oh,ya,and we should really get our panties in a uproar because of how the depth chart looks 1 month BEFORE the season starts.
August 11th, 2009 at 6:18 pm
Brien the General Says:
August 11th, 2009 at 6:12 pm
# jhill Says:
August 11th, 2009 at 6:08 pm
JLH? The guy we all wanted to cut last year when he fielded that punt and ran OOB? LOL!
You trade him b/c he’s probably the guy you can get the most for, AND you want to see Murphy play, right? Right now, Murphy is behind Chaz, DHB, JLH, and Walker. We have a more than capable replacement for PRs. You guys do remember Justin Miller, right?
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Hold on, wait a damn minute Jhill. We? I’m not in the WE category. I was the only one last year who lobbied for that guy to be on the field. I did as well for Mario and Chaz. Leave me out of the WE
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Jhill
I do remember what Brien said, I also remember Grove sucks, Harris should be working at in n out and and AFLAC sucks, and Sands is a Sealy mattress, and Burnt Angelo is jelly on the field, and Warren is like the past President, lol.
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Its MURDERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!
August 11th, 2009 at 6:20 pm
Relax folks,
It was a hypothetical as far as who do you trade. Personally, I want my core to be Chaz, DHB, and Murphy. That is in no way saying JLH can’t play. In fact I’m giving him props by saying he can get us a 2nd or 3rd rd pick. You have to give up something to get something. But when we start talking about who our 4th WR is …. ehhhhh pffffttttt!
August 11th, 2009 at 6:20 pm
# lefty12 Says:
August 11th, 2009 at 6:17 pm
lets see-in the old days Van Eagan ran the ball up and down the field,then Banazak would score the TDs.so by your logic Banazak should have started over Van Eagan and possibly Van Eagan should have been cut since someone else scored the TDs.and in Tenn. C.Johnson runs up and down the field but White comes in and scores the TDs.so why doesn’t White start and Johnson get cut?oh,ya,and we should really get our panties in a uproar because of how the depth chart looks 1 month BEFORE the season starts.
1976 vs 2009 Lefster my friend. How many TDs did White score? Isnt White more versatile than Farglass? Bad example. You talking about talent that sees the field instead of two more talented players getting snaps stolen for nada
August 11th, 2009 at 6:20 pm
That would work if Fargas got the team up and down the field but I recall more 1,2,3 and outs then getting in the red zone.
August 11th, 2009 at 6:21 pm
Jhill, I say like last year start JLH and Chaz. DHB is the 3rd and Murphy the 4th. That is my core
August 11th, 2009 at 6:21 pm
I don’t see the big deal on Murphy yet. I need to see this guy actually play until we know hes ready for anything or claim that hes ready to start. I’m not even sure about DHB yet much less Murphy.
August 11th, 2009 at 6:22 pm
I would rather cut Walker and not JLH.
August 11th, 2009 at 6:22 pm
Down here, Reggie Bush can’t pass protect to save his life. Last week reserve scrub Marvin Mitchell shoved Bush into a blocking dummy uring a pass protection drill. Bush was lifted off his feet and landed awkwardly on his neck (scary moment for Saints fans). He promptly jumped up and slammed his helmet into the ground out of frustration.
Yet Bush will most certainly see the field on almost every down. DMac is a better blocker than Bush by far. So he will see the field alot too.
August 11th, 2009 at 6:23 pm
# 24 Says:
August 11th, 2009 at 6:20 pm
That would work if Fargas got the team up and down the field but I recall more 1,2,3 and outs then getting in the red zone.
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It’s murder baby! No one can dispute that
August 11th, 2009 at 6:23 pm
Brien
REMEMBER REMEMBER REMEMBER REMEMBER REMEMBER —>
“loose lips sink ships”
Keep it clean my friend, I don’t want to see you banned again!
Your contribution tonight is evident, “AFLAC”
Later all my Raider Men.
August 11th, 2009 at 6:23 pm
Ok, he plays for USC … I get it!
Fargas is not the big play threat. We all know that. But he certainly busts off runs over 10 yds. And I will take his 5 or 6 yds gains on 1st and 2nd down all day long.
With that said, he should not be starting, but he should be on the team, and Bush has to beat him out, which shouldn’t be that hard to do since he is the next Jim Brown!
August 11th, 2009 at 6:24 pm
Did I say Cut, I mean trade! lol
August 11th, 2009 at 6:24 pm
Raider Dell – Please don’t diss In N’Out like that. They are the most disciplined and structured fast food restaurant. Kwame wouldn’t even make the cut there.
August 11th, 2009 at 6:24 pm
What some fans don’t get is that every coach wants to win MORE than they do. NO coach is doing something just to do it. If he is he wont last very long. I think Cable likes his job and wants to keep it for a few years. If he does start Justin Fargas, you can believe it’s for a damn good reason.
August 11th, 2009 at 6:26 pm
No way I start JLH over DHB … too small. JLH is an IDEAL slot WR.
I’m sure you’ve been keeping up and no that I expect to see a lot of 3 WR sets this year with DHB and Chaz on the outside with JLH in the slot.
August 11th, 2009 at 6:26 pm
What are the top 2 functions of a running back? I tell you one of them isnt blocking
Jhill, im surprised at you for such a smart dude. I think you been doing thta ridiculous biting ass dance the JERK too much
August 11th, 2009 at 6:27 pm
Fargas should only start when we play the Dolphins.
August 11th, 2009 at 6:27 pm
Well…the coaches before Cable started Fargas and we know their fate so maybe we know Cable’s fate too.
August 11th, 2009 at 6:28 pm
Too small? LOL since when do WRs have to be huge? JLH compliments Chaz quite well on the other side. Eventually DHB takes over but not yet. You want two big WRs who dont compliment each other……….yet. JLH has been catching damn near everything thus far and makes mutha….as miss out in the open field
August 11th, 2009 at 6:29 pm
Thanks for correcting that O …
Cut Walker? When he is finally healthy and looking like the guy we paid all that $ for? If he’s healthy and back to his old self, he has NEVER been a problem in the locker room so why get rid of him? He’s been acting like the pro’s pro by taking all the young guys in and giving them pointers.
What would we do with the 6th rd pick we would get for him? I’d rather have him on the team than that pick.
August 11th, 2009 at 6:29 pm
Tell Steve Smith hes too small.
August 11th, 2009 at 6:30 pm
Fargas probably starts because Al Davis can’t stop watching Starsky & Hutch re-runs.
August 11th, 2009 at 6:31 pm
Too small? How did you like that little guy making Rhonde Barber look stupid on an out route for a TD. THe Raiders have been lacking a smallish WR for years that is quick and can use his moves in the open field
August 11th, 2009 at 6:31 pm
And why don’t DHB and Chaz compliment each other?
Forget down the line, he’s ready now!
August 11th, 2009 at 6:31 pm
Sure Priest #212, that’s why all the recent Raider coaches are such winners.
August 11th, 2009 at 6:31 pm
Fuk Walker………..Do the JERK lol
August 11th, 2009 at 6:32 pm
what you obviously don’t see 24 is the games.how many times did we run for 4 0r 5 yds on 1st down only to get a false start or a sack on second down,thus making it 3rd and long.when you have 3rd and long you usually aren’t going to run for a 1st down.our O-Line sucked,our QB was learning last year and the ones we had the previous year were inadequate,yet you want to put all the blame on one RB.does anyone remember the run where Fargas broke loose and would have went all the way but M.Williams started celebrating and didn’t block-yet it’s Fargas’ fault he didn’t score?
August 11th, 2009 at 6:33 pm
JLH love is thick today, LOL!
Now JLH is Steve Smith? OK!
Anyway, I hope so, then maybe we can get a #1 for him!
August 11th, 2009 at 6:33 pm
40 years old and 260?
No jerkin’ hear maine!
August 11th, 2009 at 6:34 pm
It appears that the young DT desmond Bryant is making a case for himself which IMO shows that the coaches are objective. Also I was wondering why they took so long to ptu out this chart and obviously they were waiting for a reason. They wanted some things to clear up. I was very surprised to see DHB starting but he has earned it I guess. There are other surprises as well which shows they weren’t being hasty to make these decisions.
August 11th, 2009 at 6:34 pm
# jhill Says:
August 11th, 2009 at 6:31 pm
And why don’t DHB and Chaz compliment each other?
Forget down the line, he’s ready now!
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Who said they didnt? I said JLH does. He is the man! HE is ready now based on what? JLH we have seen it on the field. He has football speed and is difficult to deal with and that showed when he got his time. No one can dispute this. In 2007 presseason i saw it and just like chaz in 2008 i saw in the preseason. Guys that can get away from defenders and catch the rock deserve to start. Also he can run block well for such a small guy
August 11th, 2009 at 6:35 pm
Didnt you post a few weeks ago YOUR LIL DAUGHTER WAS TEACHING YOU HOW TO DO THE JERK? LOL
August 11th, 2009 at 6:35 pm
It’s pretty simple with Fargas folks. If Bush is as good as we think he is (ME INCLUDED), then he will be on the field.
It is INSANE to think that Cable would play Fargas over Bush if Bush was actuaally better and gave him a better chance to win.
August 11th, 2009 at 6:36 pm
Lefty12 – We’ll see how this year goes I guess. Agree to disagree. With a hopefully better JR, better offensive line, better WR’s and a better defense hopefully, we’ll know who the best RB is I guess.
August 11th, 2009 at 6:36 pm
JLH and Steve Smith are to be compared but what is beig said is the fact that he is a small shouldnt be used against a WR
August 11th, 2009 at 6:37 pm
I think JLH is not that physical a blocker in the run game as DHB which may be why DHB gets the nod. JLH is a slot guy.
August 11th, 2009 at 6:37 pm
Dell,
“loose lips sink ships”
I like that, and will remember it.
August 11th, 2009 at 6:37 pm
JHill – You guys read way too much into this stuff. I didn’t say JLH was Steve Smith. We were talking about JLH being smaller and so is Steve Smith. Smith dominates and has proven that the smaller guys can get it done. That doesn’t mean that JLH will but Smith is an example. Thats all.
August 11th, 2009 at 6:37 pm
Yeah, it was a late night, and my 4 year old wanted to “teach” me how to do the Jerk Dance. Her 21 year old uncle had been hanging out with the kids that day, so she was all over me to get off the computer and come Jerk with her.
I can bust the 4 year old Jerk move, lol!
August 11th, 2009 at 6:38 pm
The fact that Bush can make defenders miss and can catch is enough alone to get more PT over AFLAC… This isnt even disputable
August 11th, 2009 at 6:39 pm
LOL, jhill its your little girl man you gotta make her happy you know im just messin wit ya
August 11th, 2009 at 6:39 pm
You want two big WRs who dont compliment each other……….yet. JLH has been catching damn near everything thus far and makes mutha
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You said it, I thought you were talking about DHB and Chaz since I said I wanted DHB to start.
August 11th, 2009 at 6:40 pm
KK, #223 what does that mean?? You think they wanted to lose?? Oh! I get it, Al Davis forced them to do whatever so that he could fire them. RIGHT!!
Hey people!! KK has it all figured out Fargas is starting because Al Davis is forcing it. He wants to sit the guy he’s paying 25 mill to so he play the guy he’s paying 5 mill………………OK KK
August 11th, 2009 at 6:40 pm
Jhill,
40!! That’s not old bro. Look at Garcia, he is 39, and he is a jerk!
August 11th, 2009 at 6:41 pm
it is telling that Cable has said Bush has shown he can come off the bench and be effective immediately-he doesn’t need a bunch of carries to get going.
August 11th, 2009 at 6:41 pm
I’d prefer JLH to start. If he is the 3rd wr in the slot then oh well as long as DHB takes that from him. Walker can go to hell mayne. I’m serious as Michael Jackson’s pill problem
August 11th, 2009 at 6:42 pm
I mean: he can do the Jerk!
August 11th, 2009 at 6:42 pm
The obvious idea would be to have DHB start, the question is whether hes ready too and if hes not, I don’t want him out there. In my mind, at this moment and maybe I’m wrong but Walker, Schilens and JLH are the most ready among the WR’s and should start. I think DHB is starting because Walker is out and Higgins is the slot man.
August 11th, 2009 at 6:43 pm
I with ya 24, but JLH is not as physical as Steve Smith. I’m not taking anything away from the “small” WR. I just prefer the big ones on the outside and the smaller guys in the slot. Simply so they can get off the line without much trouble and use that speed and quickness better.
August 11th, 2009 at 6:43 pm
Jhill, IMO i dont think it is yet. Even Randy Moss was the 3rd WR when he was a rookie. No diss but he had to learn about defenses more. I’m giving the nod to JLH the young veteran he shows an ability to get open
August 11th, 2009 at 6:43 pm
You are posting comments too quickly. Slow down.
This thing is driving me crazy.
August 11th, 2009 at 6:44 pm
DHB is bigger and less experienced at this point. Higgins has great football speed and can catch the rock.
August 11th, 2009 at 6:44 pm
come on Brien,you are smarter than that.if,and i know its a big if,but if Walker can come back and be his old self which was pro bowl level you want to cut him?
August 11th, 2009 at 6:44 pm
I’m out for a while …
Good to hollar at you guys!
Try not to get banned again B!
August 11th, 2009 at 6:45 pm
JHill – I totally agree with you.
August 11th, 2009 at 6:45 pm
MJ had a pill problem?!?!?
That dude had too many problems.
RIP MJ, I hope you found peace.
August 11th, 2009 at 6:45 pm
My favorite Turd Sands play in 2008:
VS. The Chiefs it was a toss sweep to the right and Turd was in pursuit. The RB was that backup scrub from Texas and when he turned the corner he stopped on a dime and cut back in to stay inbounds and gain an extra 5-7 yards. Turd did not stop at all and kept going straight to Chiefs sideline through their players as if he just ate 3 pounds of lava wings during the last time out and was in hot pursuit of the table that has all the cups of gatorade.
Un-freakin-believeable! I rewound that play like 6 times before I resumed watching the rest of the game.
August 11th, 2009 at 6:46 pm
Later Nation. I’ll be back in a few hours.
August 11th, 2009 at 6:47 pm
It is funny you guys love Farglass but yet disrespect JLH right now with this Walker and DHB talk. Dont you want to reward guys who stepped up when they had their chance last year? You think without JLH we would have won those games at the end of the year? Remember that TD catch vs the texans against two guys? Didnt he go up and make a great adjustment on the ball? I’m amazed here
August 11th, 2009 at 6:47 pm
Well the Vikings had 2 1,000 receivers in Cris Carter and Jake Reed so Moss had to start 3rd with those guys already producing. Once Moss proved to be dominant, it was over for Reed.
August 11th, 2009 at 6:49 pm
Lefty, walker had no bigger supporter than me last season and dammit where the hell was he at? I’m not buying it with him mayne. if he is healthy that would be better but i highly doubt it and want those younger guys out there. experience is best teacher not some head case clown like walker
August 11th, 2009 at 6:50 pm
See ya Jhill………they can ban me all they want. It further proves that Jerry is intimidated by me
August 11th, 2009 at 6:50 pm
Brien – If we run really hard…we can be the Raiders starting HB. You want to see if we can make the roster?
August 11th, 2009 at 6:51 pm
Yall still dissin’ Fargas? Let it go!
Very poignant comments made of Bush/McFadden having to earn their spots and beat out Fargas. Likewise with comparing Branch’s utilization to the perceived utilization of DHB.
That’s why I’m not bothered if DHB starts at all and have said it here before. If DHB makes the entire team function at a higher level then he should probably start sooner rather than later. Seeing a report out there of all the holes/windows that open up when DHB is in the game is very encouraging.
August 11th, 2009 at 6:52 pm
Brien you said Walker should be banished.if he can make it all the way back to his pro bowl level of play he should not be cut.it has nothing to do with JLH.if he can make it back,it makes the team that much better.
August 11th, 2009 at 6:53 pm
# 24 Says:
August 11th, 2009 at 6:47 pm
Well the Vikings had 2 1,000 receivers in Cris Carter and Jake Reed so Moss had to start 3rd with those guys already producing. Once Moss proved to be dominant, it was over for Reed.
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So let me get this straight, the vikes had 2 guys who proved themselves is regular season games and then when moss showed on the field he was dominant it was over for Reed? It is exactly what I’m saying man. DHB will eventually start but for now start those guys who helped the momentum that we pray is carrying over from last year
August 11th, 2009 at 6:53 pm
New post!
August 11th, 2009 at 6:53 pm
New Post!
August 11th, 2009 at 6:55 pm
Raiders also interested in OLB Brooks?
The New Orleans Saints appear to have company in their pursuit of free agent linebacker Derrick Brooks(notes).
A league source has told National Football Post that the Oakland Raiders spoke to Brooks recently, but it’s unknown what their level of interest is for in the 11-time Pro Bowler, who has spent his whole 14-year career with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.
Under new defensive coordinator John Marshall, the Raiders are letting Ricky Brown(notes) push veteran Kirk Morrison(notes) at middle linebacker. Thomas Howard(notes) is projected to be the starter on the weak side. On the strong side, a foot injury has sidelined Jon Alston(notes), giving rookie Slade Norris(notes) time with the first team.
The Saints are looking for help after news broke that veteran Mark Simoneau(notes) will undergo surgery to repair a torn triceps. Simoneau missed all last season while recovering from back surgery.
August 11th, 2009 at 7:28 pm
Brien I agree 100% fargas brings nothing to the table and JLH will be an amazing slot wr. How tall is wes welker JLH is a playmaker no denying that!
GO RAIDERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
August 12th, 2009 at 4:47 am
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