Mitchell hamstrung again
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Wednesday, August 12th, 2009 at 7:12 pm in Oakland Raiders.
In a candid moment two days ago, Mike Mitchell conceded he was nervous about playing in his first game as a Raider.
He’d just come off a practice where he’d gotten into a fight with teammate and close friend Louis Murphy, had received a shove from quarterback Bruce Gradkowski, and had the look of someone who was looking forward to hitting somebody wearing a different uniform.
“I’m extremely excited. I’m also extremely nervous,” Mitchell said. “This is the first time to play in a real NFL game, so I’ve got a lot of mixed emotions.”
It’s safe to say that the excitement and anxiety have given way to disappoint. Mitchell won’t play against the Dallas Cowboys Thursday night because of a hamstring injury that just won’t go away and there’s no telling when he’ll be ready to go.
Coach Tom Cable said he wasn’t sure of the severity, but did say, “It is a strain so it’s going to be a little while. How long, we don’t know.”
Mitchell had to cancel his first Pro Day becasue of a hamstring pull and was able to rehabilitate it in 27 days, whcih resulted in a showing for scouts at North Highlands High School which suddenly put him on the radar of several NFL teams, including the Raiders.
The Raiders made Mitchell a controversial second round pick, only to have Mitchell injure his hamstring in one of the few offseason practices he was able to participate in.
The fact that Mitchell spent much of the offseason after his college class graduated in Alameda rehabbing, and then was always the last one out of the locker room at training camp as the training staff painstakingly stretched his hamstring _ only to injure it again _ could mean a lengthy shutdown.
The last thing the Raiders want is to rush him back, have him hurt it again _ this time worse _ and be faced with the dilemma of keeping him on the 53-man roster or putting him on injured reserve, as they were forced to do last year with rookie fourth-round pick Arman Shields.
Special teams duty will entail the kind of full-on sprinting which can be tough on a tender hamstring.
It’s also a setback in terms of getting Mitchell going as a safety. Before the injury, Mitchell acknowedged he wasn’t playing as well as he had hoped against the run or pass.
“We’ve had some live goal line periods where I haven’t made the tackle and they’ve gotten in,” Mitchell said. “In that sense I’ve been kind of disappointed, but I’m doing everything I can to get that corrected.”
On pass defense, the sight of secondary coach Lionel Washington pulling Mitchell aside after a tight end or running back breaks free in the flat has been a familiar sight.
“I would be lying if I had any idea what the NFL is about until I started playing in the NFL. Coach Washington is on me every play, but you know what? I like it,”’ Washington said. “I was just reading the Bible, I actually read up on a verse of the day that said that pride breeds quarrels and that true wisdom is knowing how to take advice.
“Every day, he’s always on me, and sometimes I get frustrated, but I started thinking about that today, because he gets on me about little things. Little things that you wouldn’t even see or pay attention to unless you really knew what was going on. And I appreciate the heck out of it.”
For the immediate future, Mitchell’s learning is going to come in the film room instead of on the field.
More news and notes from the Wednesday walkthrough:
– Other than Mitchell, those who won’t play include WR Javon Walker (knee), T Khalif Barnes (ankle, G Robert Gallery (appendectomy), OL Mark Wilson (back), QB Jeff Garcia (calfh and DL Derrick Gray (knee strain). Jon Alston is questionable with plantar fasciatis.
– Darrius Heyward-Bey will play a lot and might start.
– Kirk Morrison will start at middle linebacker and Ricky Brown at strong side linebacker.
– Chris Morris starts for Gallery ahead of Paul McQuistan at left guard.
– Most starters, including quarterback JaMarcus Russell, will play one quarter and take the rest of the night off. However, at running back, Cable said he plans to play Justin Fargas, Darren McFadden and Michael Bush, alternating them throughout the first half in a system he may want to use throughout the season.
“I want to start inplementing the plan that we want to use in terms of getting them all involved,” Cable said.
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August 12th, 2009 at 7:16 pm
SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
August 12th, 2009 at 7:12 pm
Brien the General Says:
August 12th, 2009 at 7:02 pm
SnB, we dont have a true Nose Tackle and reports say Ron Brace is a muthfugga right now to deal with for the Pats. Could have used him but noooooooooooooo. WE love the buddy system here with Gerard the UT Warren. We are about to get what we deserve ala Snow Job Feb 2002 and the Super Bowl Feb 03
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Interesting isn’t it. Other than Nnamdi Asomugha…Gerard Warren and Tommy Kelly HAVE NO COMPETITION AT THEIR RESPECTIVE POSITIONS! NONE!
Some will say its because the Raiders are satisfied with what’s there. In my opinion, its because the interior defensive line is an afterthought to Al Davis. The reason Warren is miscast as an NT is because the Raiders don’t really differentiate between the UT and NT. Their job is all the same…rush the QB. the Raiders haven’t played the run well in a generation!
August 12th, 2009 at 7:16 pm
I’m #1?
August 12th, 2009 at 7:17 pm
SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
August 12th, 2009 at 7:14 pm
Brien,
Also, what do you think about what is transpiring at MLB? Just think Rey Mauluaga was available for a simple trade up. Or how about Jasper Brinkley.
Nope…instead they tried to convert some tight end from Boise State and brought in an Undrafted Free Agent. Now we find out that they want to “push” Morrison. Sorry folks…Ricky Brown ain’t the competition that will truly push anyone.
August 12th, 2009 at 7:18 pm
# Brien the General Says:
August 12th, 2009 at 7:17 pm
SnB it is sad that the NT and UT have the same roles. This is why the run defense shall continue to suck.
As for MLB…..lol what a joke. Morrison is one dimensional and Ricky Brown is an all guts no talent player. This team is in trouble
August 12th, 2009 at 7:19 pm
At WR we dont reward JLH with a starting role but we reward Farglass with being number one onthe depth chart. Farglass should be cut
August 12th, 2009 at 7:19 pm
Brien the General Says:
August 12th, 2009 at 7:11 pm
SnB, sad to see such a promising thing go down the drain. I bet Bush gets traded before the trade deadline and we keep Farglass in 2010 on our way to another 10 loss season
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I think some team like Cleveland, Seattle or Cincy will put an offer down before its said and done.
We will then use the draft pick to grab Taylor Mays.
Mitchell’s hamstring has been hurting him going back to February. I wonder if the crack medical squad saw any of this coming…..
August 12th, 2009 at 7:22 pm
Brien the General Says:
August 12th, 2009 at 7:19 pm
At WR we dont reward JLH with a starting role but we reward Farglass with being number one onthe depth chart. Farglass should be cut
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Great point. JLH scored some 7 TDS…but I guess that was just dumb luck or something. Multiple catch games when he starts…simple coincidence…..JLH is just a punt returner….oh well…
JLH and Schilens should have been playing from week 4 on. But we played the wily veterans for far too long. Then we overdraft the young players before giving them a chance to succeed.
I could see Michael Bush getting the Andrew Walter experience.
August 12th, 2009 at 7:24 pm
Brien,
Fargas is going to start because he’s an excellent pass blocker. Damn the rushing yards.
Bush will be a “short yardage” back. What the hell is a short yardage back?
Either you can run or you cant
August 12th, 2009 at 7:26 pm
Farglass isnt an excellent pass blocker. He is good but I’ve seen him get worked in games just like the other backs.
JLH will eventually leave the Raiders and go to a team that appreciates his skills and do well
LOL SnB how about a no yardage back? That is Farglass
August 12th, 2009 at 7:28 pm
I hate to say this but I wont be at the sept 14th game is Farglass is starting. I refuse to pay my money for a losing product. But if I do go I will go to jail because I’m booing Farglass everytime he touches the ball
August 12th, 2009 at 7:30 pm
they need to rest Mitchell… for a hamstring to be going on … on and off… for this long means it needs serious rest…
the choice is rest Mitchell for at least four weeks with no lower body work at all… which means he won’t be ready till game 3 or 4…
or play him and risk losing him for the season…
August 12th, 2009 at 7:32 pm
Let us all sit back and watch the General get more obnoxious as he gets plastered…
August 12th, 2009 at 7:33 pm
Generalisimo !!!
August 12th, 2009 at 7:34 pm
What the hell do the Raiders training staff do. How do you allow this kid to get the same injury over and over and over and over and over and over again!
Mitchell will be on the shelf for an extended period of time. Great….He misses his pro-day because of the same doggone injury.
Instead of being so anxious to see guys “fly” around the field…perhaps they should have taken their time with the kid and let him rest. Memo…be sure to check out DHB as well. I wonder if he is over his hamstring issues as well.
August 12th, 2009 at 7:36 pm
Mike Mitchel’s hitting ability is going to become as mythical as big foot at this rate.
August 12th, 2009 at 7:39 pm
Pedro!
August 12th, 2009 at 7:40 pm
# Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
August 12th, 2009 at 7:32 pm
Let us all sit back and watch the General get more obnoxious as he gets plastered…
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Not even been drinking today. Nice try. Obnoxious is playing the trash named Farglass over better talent. Obnoxious is the refusal to get a real MLB and NT. I’m the one obnoxious?
August 12th, 2009 at 7:41 pm
Bo …
are you in Denver???
August 12th, 2009 at 7:42 pm
I am really woried about the opener against the Chargers. LT is healthy and Merriman is right around the corner if you no what I mean. L Phillips will manhandle GREEN at the RT position and always seems to get a sack.
August 12th, 2009 at 7:43 pm
Totally blows that Mitchell can’t play. Looking at the depth chart the secondary is pretty thin. Sure we have three good corners, but one goes down and Miller or Bowie have to play the nickel…ouch.
Things I wanna see Thurs…
1 – DHB fly…and not drop anything
2 – One good scoring drive from the ones
3 – Backup DT’s (Bryant, Joseph, Boschetti)
4 – RB rotation in 1st half
5 – It don’t mean anything…but dam it will be good to see the S&B again!
One Nation Baby…
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August 12th, 2009 at 7:43 pm
K Barnes needs to get healthy and solidify the Right side period. Our OLINE play was horrendous the last game!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
August 12th, 2009 at 7:44 pm
C GREEN + J FARGAS = loss
August 12th, 2009 at 7:47 pm
We have to beat the Chargers Period no excuses. IT WILL BE A TRUE TEST THAT WE HAVE TURNED THE CORNER.
August 12th, 2009 at 7:51 pm
# THREE RING CIRCUS Says:
August 12th, 2009 at 7:47 pm
We have to beat the Chargers Period no excuses. IT WILL BE A TRUE TEST THAT WE HAVE TURNED THE CORNER.
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Wont happen man if Farglass is starting
August 12th, 2009 at 7:52 pm
man brien I was hoping to see mitchell tomorrow night…is Huff still a Raider?
August 12th, 2009 at 7:53 pm
Its so pitiful man. In a month an ass whipping of epic proportion
August 12th, 2009 at 7:54 pm
Huff never was a Raider
August 12th, 2009 at 7:54 pm
DMAC NEEDS TO START I AGREE. CABLE BETTER PUT HIM IN ASAP NOT IN THE SECOND HALF.
August 12th, 2009 at 7:55 pm
Listen to you haters!
Fargas is one of us and you guys have been hammering on him for a couple of years now. No, he’s not an elite back. No, he doesn’t carry the team when we need it. No, he is not a reliable receiving threat. So what. He’s a hell of a football player that has played on some god awful offenses, played hard, stayed clean and contributes just as much as anyone on the team. I seem to remember him leading the LEAGUE in yards thru the first 4 weeks or so last year, no???
I like McFadden and Bush just as much as you clowns but I won’t hate on the MAN that has EARNED the starting job.
Oh yeah, Go Raiders!
Hate on brothers!
August 12th, 2009 at 7:56 pm
brien you still see us beating sd in opener?
August 12th, 2009 at 7:57 pm
# SaintKaufman Says:
August 12th, 2009 at 7:55 pm
Listen to you haters!
Fargas is one of us and you guys have been hammering on him for a couple of years now. No, he’s not an elite back. No, he doesn’t carry the team when we need it. No, he is not a reliable receiving threat. So what. He’s a hell of a football player that has played on some god awful offenses, played hard, stayed clean and contributes just as much as anyone on the team. I seem to remember him leading the LEAGUE in yards thru the first 4 weeks or so last year, no???
I like McFadden and Bush just as much as you clowns but I won’t hate on the MAN that has EARNED the starting job.
Oh yeah, Go Raiders!
Hate on brothers!
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No he didnt. He got hurt in week 2 and didnt play in week 3 and 4
August 12th, 2009 at 7:58 pm
Fargas and the lack of blitzing are the biggest problems we have. If we can see it, why can’t Crazy Al?
Oh, right, Al is so old, he probably can’t even see the field.
August 12th, 2009 at 8:00 pm
Jeez B the G,
Listen to you with all of your stats and facts, whatever!!
August 12th, 2009 at 8:00 pm
FARGAS IS GOOD BUT HE DOES NOT SCORE TOUCH DOWNS PERIOD. THAT IS UNACCEPTABLE AT THE RB POSITION WHEN YOU HAVE LT AND SPROLES CHURNING OUT TDS LIKE CLOCKWORK. WE NEED TO MATCH THERE INTENSITY AND I FEEL THAT DMAC IS THE ANSWER. PLUS YOU DONT PAY A MAN A $60 MILLION DOLLAR CONTRACT TO PLAY SECOND STRING.
August 12th, 2009 at 8:01 pm
# Norco Bob Says:
August 12th, 2009 at 7:56 pm
brien you still see us beating sd in opener?
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Nope not with Farglass getting the bulk of the snaps at tailback. I refuse to come if he is starting
August 12th, 2009 at 8:01 pm
# SaintKaufman Says:
August 12th, 2009 at 8:00 pm
Jeez B the G,
Listen to you with all of your stats and facts, whatever!!
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Typical on this site when you are got at all corners
August 12th, 2009 at 8:02 pm
Huh?
August 12th, 2009 at 8:02 pm
He wont start that game dude,..he will be a Raider all year, but wont start a game,..relax,..but that game bro,…not likin it.
August 12th, 2009 at 8:03 pm
# THREE RING CIRCUS Says:
August 12th, 2009 at 8:00 pm
FARGAS IS GOOD BUT HE DOES NOT SCORE TOUCH DOWNS PERIOD. THAT IS UNACCEPTABLE AT THE RB POSITION WHEN YOU HAVE LT AND SPROLES CHURNING OUT TDS LIKE CLOCKWORK. WE NEED TO MATCH THERE INTENSITY AND I FEEL THAT DMAC IS THE ANSWER. PLUS YOU DONT PAY A MAN A $60 MILLION DOLLAR CONTRACT TO PLAY SECOND STRING.
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Farglass good? Ha he is just like those VH1 reality shows……garbage. No we paid a large contract to two WRs in the last two drafts DHB and DMAC. Just fkin great
August 12th, 2009 at 8:03 pm
Hoping Merriman gets hurt in preseason,..he will get 7 sacks monday night,..maybe Neal can keep him off Russell, otherwise long night.
August 12th, 2009 at 8:03 pm
# SaintKaufman Says:
August 12th, 2009 at 7:55 pm
Listen to you haters!
Fargas is one of us and you guys have been hammering on him for a couple of years now. No, he’s not an elite back. No, he doesn’t carry the team when we need it. No, he is not a reliable receiving threat. So what. He’s a hell of a football player that has played on some god awful offenses, played hard, stayed clean and contributes just as much as anyone on the team. I seem to remember him leading the LEAGUE in yards thru the first 4 weeks or so last year, no???
I like McFadden and Bush just as much as you clowns but I won’t hate on the MAN that has EARNED the starting job.
Oh yeah, Go Raiders!
Hate on brothers!
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FARGAS NEEDS TO BE THE THIRD MOST CARRIES THIS YEAR WITH BUSH GETTING THE MOST. CONSIDERING DMAC WILL BE SPLIT OUT WIDE AS THE ULTIMATE RUNNER RECEIVER HE SHOULD BE.
August 12th, 2009 at 8:04 pm
Three Ring,
Exactly who on our team WAS scoring touchdowns these past few years??? From what I saw Fargas had just as much success as the rest of the team.
August 12th, 2009 at 8:05 pm
# Norco Bob Says:
August 12th, 2009 at 8:02 pm
He wont start that game dude,..he will be a Raider all year, but wont start a game,..relax,..but that game bro,…not likin it.
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Highly doubt that he wont start. Guy shouldnt be on the team at all. I aint likingthat game either. Warren as the NT? LOL that is a joke
August 12th, 2009 at 8:05 pm
# SaintKaufman Says:
August 12th, 2009 at 8:04 pm
Three Ring,
Exactly who on our team WAS scoring touchdowns these past few years??? From what I saw Fargas had just as much success as the rest of the team.
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
August 12th, 2009 at 8:06 pm
# Norco Bob Says:
August 12th, 2009 at 8:03 pm
Hoping Merriman gets hurt in preseason,..he will get 7 sacks monday night,..maybe Neal can keep him off Russell, otherwise long night.
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No way will that roided idiot do anything against Mario. Its Green we have to worry about
August 12th, 2009 at 8:07 pm
Bob, it will be a long night of 3 and outs
August 12th, 2009 at 8:07 pm
What has either Bush or DMAC done to deserve such praise from you morons??
August 12th, 2009 at 8:08 pm
Merriman wont do anything against Mario?? WTF? LOL!!!!
August 12th, 2009 at 8:09 pm
# SaintKaufman Says:
August 12th, 2009 at 8:04 pm
Three Ring,
Exactly who on our team WAS scoring touchdowns these past few years??? From what I saw Fargas had just as much success as the rest of the team
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MCFADDEN WAS HURT THAT WHY HE WAS NOT ABLE TO GET MORE TDS. IF HE WAS HEALTHY HE WOULD OF DOMINATED THE BILLS GAME AND SO ON. WE WOULD OF WON MORE GAMES AND BEEN LOOKING INTO THE PLAY OFFS.
PLUS HE HAS BEEFED UP TO 218 POUNDS.
CHECK COMCAST SPORTS. THIS GUY LOOK RIPPED AND ALOT BIGGER. ALSO VERY FAST.
August 12th, 2009 at 8:10 pm
Look here Rhonda…………Bush and DMAC create more versatility for the offense and at least are dual threats. Can the same be said about Farglass? Oh yeah and Farglass 7 Tds in his career total. Its a damn joke man. Rhonda, do you fuking wonder why Russell went to Cable and begged for more DMAC? What about how we were blessed to see Farglass hurt in TB? The Raiders would have lost that game with him still in there by 20 plus points
August 12th, 2009 at 8:11 pm
# RaiderRon Says:
August 12th, 2009 at 8:08 pm
Merriman wont do anything against Mario?? WTF? LOL!!!!
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Not a damn thing. You heard it right
August 12th, 2009 at 8:14 pm
Anyone remember the Denver game last year? Stats wise that was Farglass’ best game but most of his yards came after the Raiders were closing the game out. DMAC saved the game by going to Cable and suggesting the pitch play. Does anyone remember watching Farglass not convert short yardage after short yardage play? I’ll fkin wait for your retarded responses…………………..
August 12th, 2009 at 8:15 pm
DMAC HAS BEEFED UP TO 218 POUNDS.
CHECK COMCAST SPORTS BAY AREA .COM HES HUNGRY.
August 12th, 2009 at 8:15 pm
Three Ring…….dont worry we love hard nose crash test idiots who pick up 2 yards up the middle every first down who cant catch or ever make a big play
August 12th, 2009 at 8:16 pm
Brien the General Says:
August 12th, 2009 at 8:14 pm
Anyone remember the Denver game last year? Stats wise that was Farglass’ best game but most of his yards came after the Raiders were closing the game out. DMAC saved the game by going to Cable and suggesting the pitch play. Does anyone remember watching Farglass not convert short yardage after short yardage play? I’ll fkin wait for your retarded responses…………………..
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HE COULDNT GET THE BALL IN THE ENDZONE AT THE GOALLINE.
August 12th, 2009 at 8:16 pm
Fargas 698atts 2878 yds 7tds
if bush stays on pace that equals 3093yds 21 td’s with same # of attempts
Mcfadden would be about 3082 and 24td’s
see the glaring difference? and how do you rush for 176yds against a team that will go 1-15, has no healthy MLB and still not score? Fargas is a backup and should not have the bulk of the carries, cleanup duty when defenses are tired so bush and mcf can rest.
August 12th, 2009 at 8:17 pm
Brien,
LOL! Your a freakn clown. Your posts are so stupid its almost like you are retarded. Lets see one more “Farglass” comment, their so original and witty.
August 12th, 2009 at 8:18 pm
Yet the weird thing is that 2 coaching staffs disagree with you short bussers. Wonder who knows more? Hmmmmm…….
August 12th, 2009 at 8:20 pm
# RaiderRon Says:
August 12th, 2009 at 8:17 pm
Brien,
LOL! Your a freakn clown. Your posts are so stupid its almost like you are retarded. Lets see one more “Farglass” comment, their so original and witty.
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You fukin idiot I’m, the one who coined the Farglass name. So try again. Rhonda dont be mad because I’m talking bad about your USC boyfriend. You have nada to backup anything and havent thrown up a rebuttal yet. You are coming weak and now resorting to name calling which is fine but that is what women do when they have no facts.
August 12th, 2009 at 8:21 pm
# RaiderRon Says:
August 12th, 2009 at 8:18 pm
Yet the weird thing is that 2 coaching staffs disagree with you short bussers. Wonder who knows more? Hmmmmm…….
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You mean they sure did get the Kwame Harris thing right………I said he would fail last summer. Go check the archives BITCH
I also said Mario will do just fine
Also said JLH and Chaz are better options for the offense.
What do you have to say about that BITCH?
August 12th, 2009 at 8:21 pm
Gladly ride the short bus if that means Bush and McF get the bulk. Obviously 2 coaching staffs have know enough to win 9 games out of 32, and then keep doin the same sh!t hopin it will work. BRILLIANT!
August 12th, 2009 at 8:22 pm
# THREE RING CIRCUS Says:
August 12th, 2009 at 8:16 pm
Brien the General Says:
August 12th, 2009 at 8:14 pm
Anyone remember the Denver game last year? Stats wise that was Farglass’ best game but most of his yards came after the Raiders were closing the game out. DMAC saved the game by going to Cable and suggesting the pitch play. Does anyone remember watching Farglass not convert short yardage after short yardage play? I’ll fkin wait for your retarded responses…………………..
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HE COULDNT GET THE BALL IN THE ENDZONE AT THE GOALLINE.
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Ding ding, well not really since your answer wasnt retarded. It is correct Three Ring.
August 12th, 2009 at 8:23 pm
# Raiderwoj Says:
August 12th, 2009 at 8:16 pm
Fargas 698atts 2878 yds 7tds
if bush stays on pace that equals 3093yds 21 td’s with same # of attempts
Mcfadden would be about 3082 and 24td’s
see the glaring difference? and how do you rush for 176yds against a team that will go 1-15, has no healthy MLB and still not score? Fargas is a backup and should not have the bulk of the carries, cleanup duty when defenses are tired so bush and mcf can rest.
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I totally agree with most of this post except Farglass shouldnt be on the team
August 12th, 2009 at 8:23 pm
Lol brien your crazy if you truly believe justin fargas is the reason for the raiders woes. Out of all the misfits on the team you choose to pick on fargas. Why not boo russel whos has the ball in his hand every play but overthrows passes to recievers instead of passing touchdowns?? Why not boo the whole offensive line for not giving jamarcus the time to throw touchdowns??? Why not boo the linebackers for missing tackles. Why not boo the d-line for not filling gaps??? Why not boo the safeties for being out of positions??? Why not boo the coaches for calling stupid fake fg calls at pointless times in the gam??
My point is there was many things wrong with that team last year that caused for us not to win. And out of all the things to boo at you choose the least of our troubles. We lost alot of games last year but it for damn sure wasn’t fargas fault. You guys complain about the man but we still finished top ten even with playing fargas so he couldn’t have played that bad.
I heard someone say well he only had 679yrds and 4 tds klast year… Well yea he spit carries with dmac last year. Put dmacs 499 yrds with fargas 679 and what do you get??? Remmember he went down with and groin injury early last year and was out towards the end??? Like I said when he had the show to himself he put up 1000 in half a season, so cut the damn guy a break s**t. smh
August 12th, 2009 at 8:25 pm
DMAC AND BUSH WITH THE VOTE. DMAC OPENS UP THE OFFENSE PERIOD. WE NEED NOT BE ONE DIMENTIONAL. THE CHARGERS WILL COME TO PLAY AND WE NEED TO MATCH THAT TYPE OF INTENSITY.
GOD FORBID WE HAVE TO PASS THE BALL. ESPECIALLY WITH GREEN AT RTACKLE.
CHECK LAST YEARS HIGHLIGHTS ON NFL.COM.
August 12th, 2009 at 8:26 pm
hope youre right brien,..hey man massive tailgate for opener,..better fuggin be there!!!
August 12th, 2009 at 8:27 pm
I remember no way fargas scores on that pitch play to dmac dosen’t have the explosion. I hope Neal lays merriman out !!!!!
August 12th, 2009 at 8:28 pm
IM BEEN WAITING FOR YEARS TO SEE IF WE COULD BEAT THE DISCHARGERS AND FOR A WHILE NOW IT HAS JUST SEEMS THAT THE RAIDERS JUST CANT DO IT. ITS DEPRESSING.
August 12th, 2009 at 8:28 pm
WOW!
That was WAY easy!
Peace out smella(s).
August 12th, 2009 at 8:29 pm
Man you guys shut the fugg up with that 1000 yard garbage. This isnt the 80s or 90s anymore. Gaining 1000 yards is not what it use to be. All you have to do is average 70 yds/gm for that to happen. Come on man
As for booing the linebackers ou knucklehead I do all the time and I have been on here before you dogging the LBs so try again
August 12th, 2009 at 8:30 pm
Boo the fukin oline? You newbie ass muthfukka who said who the fukin starting oline should have been last year. Pull up the archives asshole
August 12th, 2009 at 8:30 pm
Boo Russell for playing in an offense that wasnt suited to his skills? Pull up the archives. Ive said this already numbnuts
August 12th, 2009 at 8:31 pm
brien if 2 throws more then 15 passes on opener,..sure loss.
August 12th, 2009 at 8:31 pm
Dont have to rebutt, I watched the guy in 07 have a real good year on a real bad offense with NO pass game. I also watched him last year run well when healthy on another team with no pass game. As far as your grand predictions you supposedly made, good for you, bet were not reading about the ones that were 100% wrong, which from reading a few of your posts I bet were a TON. Your an ignorant fool and it shows.
August 12th, 2009 at 8:31 pm
Do you fukin know who you are dealing with? I’m the assassin on this blog that will put all your beta male posts where they belong…………in the trash
August 12th, 2009 at 8:32 pm
WHEN WE PLAYED THEM IN THE BEGINING OF THE SEASON WE WERE NOTHING SHORT OF AWESOME UNTIL THE END OF THE THIRD QUARTER. JUST A STRAIGHT MELTDOWN AT EVERY POSITION. WE BLEW A 15 TO 0 LEAD. TERRIBLE. STILL GLAD KWAME ISNT THERE WHAT A MESS HE WAS. PLEASE FIND A WAY TO GET R=BARNES IN AT RTACKLE. SERIOUSLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11
August 12th, 2009 at 8:33 pm
# RaiderRon Says:
August 12th, 2009 at 8:31 pm
Dont have to rebutt, I watched the guy in 07 have a real good year on a real bad offense with NO pass game. I also watched him last year run well when healthy on another team with no pass game. As far as your grand predictions you supposedly made, good for you, bet were not reading about the ones that were 100% wrong, which from reading a few of your posts I bet were a TON. Your an ignorant fool and it shows.
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07? Name the defenses he did it against. And then ask yourself what did he do when he played tougher defenes………I’ll wait
August 12th, 2009 at 8:33 pm
Michael Bush has received meaningfull time in four games:
1. Kansas City: 16car 90 yds 1TD (Game Clincher)
2. Buffalo: 14car 55 yds
3. San Diego: 128 total yds: 14car 48 yds and 7 rec 80yds
4. Tampa Bay: 27car 177yds 2TDs (Also power running to get game clinching F.G)
This is how a running back takes over a game…view clip below…be sure to listen to the commentators
http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-air-and-ground-players-of-the-week/09000d5d80db1052/WK-17-Michael-Bush-highlights
August 12th, 2009 at 8:34 pm
Rhonda you are nothing more than a bend over betty bitch that would rather applaud inferior talent than real talent. Get out of the Raider blog. This is for real men not simpleton ass women. Go get your quiche out of the oven
August 12th, 2009 at 8:34 pm
night yall, it’s been fun. and since nomrefargas is already taken, may have to change my name to Alotlessfargas? Morebush? Crashtestdummymustsit? nah that 1’s too long.
Go Raiders!
August 12th, 2009 at 8:34 pm
Rhonda you have displayed nada where I am wrong
August 12th, 2009 at 8:35 pm
Rhonda, you think you know so much then why is Farglass horrible once the team gets pass the opponents 50?
August 12th, 2009 at 8:36 pm
# Raiderwoj Says:
August 12th, 2009 at 8:34 pm
night yall, it’s been fun. and since nomrefargas is already taken, may have to change my name to Alotlessfargas? Morebush? Crashtestdummymustsit? nah that 1’s too long.
Go Raiders!
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All those names rule. Good nite bruh
August 12th, 2009 at 8:36 pm
Brien the General Says:
August 12th, 2009 at 8:31 pm
Do you fukin know who you are dealing with? I’m the assassin on this blog that will put all your beta male posts where they belong…………in the trash
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YOU NEED A HUG MAN SERIOUSLY. I KNOW YOUR ANGRY AT THE PAST SIX YEARS WE ALL ARE.
EUGENE MONROE WAS THERE. WE COULD OF PLUGGED HIM IN AT RTACKLE.
OUR LINE WILL NEED TO FIND A WAY TO STEP IT UP AGAINST SD.
THEY WILL BRING THE HOUSE AT RUSSELL
August 12th, 2009 at 8:37 pm
Rhonda, if you wanna use that 2007 year why did the Raiders only real good run games vs good defenses happened when Farglass was sitting and Dominic Rhodes was in there?
August 12th, 2009 at 8:37 pm
brien youre on fire man.
August 12th, 2009 at 8:38 pm
A hug? Fuk a hug! Need wins. Need the best players on the field. Need real Raiders in this blog, not some f@ggots who reward mediocrity
August 12th, 2009 at 8:38 pm
Bob, you know I kill all day…..but i bow respectfully to BHP and Oakglenn eventhough they dont agree with me
August 12th, 2009 at 8:39 pm
Brien<———-on the front line in the battle
August 12th, 2009 at 8:39 pm
Farglass lovers<——wimps
August 12th, 2009 at 8:39 pm
only way we win opener,…5 turnovers, 2 for scores,..rush for 250 yards.
August 12th, 2009 at 8:40 pm
Morrison defenders<———suckas
August 12th, 2009 at 8:40 pm
# Norco Bob Says:
August 12th, 2009 at 8:39 pm
only way we win opener,…5 turnovers, 2 for scores,..rush for 250 yards.
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You mean 250 by bush/dmac right? Farglass with zero
August 12th, 2009 at 8:40 pm
Gerard Warren lovers<——-are you outta your damn mind?
August 12th, 2009 at 8:41 pm
Brien<———remembers well in april 2008 on this same blog being called an idiot for saying Burgess needed to go. What do ya think now?
August 12th, 2009 at 8:42 pm
I feel the best way to play it is start fargas, let him wear down teams in the first quarter and soften the d up for dmac, use dmac in the second to third quarters and then let the big man bush take us home in the end.
August 12th, 2009 at 8:42 pm
Sorry babe,..I aint hatin on Fargas,..I dont want him starting though,…I bet by years end Bush leads team in yards.
August 12th, 2009 at 8:43 pm
Rhonda little sniveling bitches like you can kiss my entire Raider ass. How dare you step to me with nothing?
August 12th, 2009 at 8:44 pm
Heres another thang that will piss you off bro,..I wanted Al to bring back Gruden after the Yuks fired him.
August 12th, 2009 at 8:44 pm
# Dmac20 Says:
August 12th, 2009 at 8:42 pm
I feel the best way to play it is start fargas, let him wear down teams in the first quarter and soften the d up for dmac, use dmac in the second to third quarters and then let the big man bush take us home in the end.
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Wear teams down with 3 and outs? Yup that how you do it. Let’s not get up on teams early so we can use our strenght as a pass defense. Yeah I got ya. Also lets not let any RB get in a rhythm. Sure fire plan
August 12th, 2009 at 8:45 pm
Yeah Bob and we disagreed on that. People always dont see eye to eye. The fact with that was we been garb since Gruden’s regime left so I did understand people wanting him back
August 12th, 2009 at 8:46 pm
Start Bush all year at tailback,…use DMAC as halfback, split out,..also tailback in eye,…motion…hes a weapon if used right.
August 12th, 2009 at 8:46 pm
Sample comments from Ian Eagle concerning the Bush game against Tampa
“Bush is in the backfield as the running back because Fargas has a knee injury and McFadden has an ankle injury”
“Bush good block by Cornell Green…he got by…ooohhhh there he goes…look at this run…chased by Barber, Chased by Buchanon, and isss in for the touchdown….a 67 yard sprint! AND THE RAIDERS HAVE RECAPTURED THE LEAD!”
“Bush, Lawton with a block…Stewart with a block…look at the broken tackles…into the secondary”
“Corkscrews his way inside the 10..what a run by Bush..He has taken this game by the throat and squeezed”
August 12th, 2009 at 8:47 pm
Gerard Warren=NT?
Justin Farglass= a starter on any other team in the NFL?
Morrison= a middle linebacker?
Cornell Green= shouldnt be selling insurance
August 12th, 2009 at 8:47 pm
Dmac20 Says:
August 12th, 2009 at 8:42 pm
I feel the best way to play it is start fargas, let him wear down teams in the first quarter and soften the d up for dmac, use dmac in the second to third quarters and then let the big man bush take us home in the end.
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THREE AND OUT FARGLASS WEARING OUT THE DEFENSE. THE OPPOSING DEFENSE LOVES HIM.
August 12th, 2009 at 8:48 pm
# Norco Bob Says:
August 12th, 2009 at 8:46 pm
Start Bush all year at tailback,…use DMAC as halfback, split out,..also tailback in eye,…motion…hes a weapon if used right.
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AS long as Farglass doesnt start. We got elite talent sitting down for Farglass. It is baffling
August 12th, 2009 at 8:49 pm
# SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
August 12th, 2009 at 8:46 pm
Sample comments from Ian Eagle concerning the Bush game against Tampa
“Bush is in the backfield as the running back because Fargas has a knee injury and McFadden has an ankle injury”
“Bush good block by Cornell Green…he got by…ooohhhh there he goes…look at this run…chased by Barber, Chased by Buchanon, and isss in for the touchdown….a 67 yard sprint! AND THE RAIDERS HAVE RECAPTURED THE LEAD!”
“Bush, Lawton with a block…Stewart with a block…look at the broken tackles…into the secondary”
“Corkscrews his way inside the 10..what a run by Bush..He has taken this game by the throat and squeezed”
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No one wants to listen
August 12th, 2009 at 8:49 pm
Why is everyone so up in arms about this depth chart? Fargas will get the most work during the preseason, and the least work in the regular season. We preach about the need for competition at all these other spots, so what’s wrong with starting Fargas, IN A PRESEASON GAME, in an effort to get more out of the two young guys in camp? Justin will be slowly fazed out as the season goes along, this isn’t rocket science folks.
August 12th, 2009 at 8:50 pm
I dont remember every game but I do remember him running well against the Bears. He gashed the Dolphins pretty good too I recall. And keep your posts coming please cuz I am rolling over here LOL!! “How dare you step to me” LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
August 12th, 2009 at 8:50 pm
Relax Holmes,…25 isnt going to start,..heck dude may not make roster,..hang in there,..hey man Im already drinking getting ready for tomorrow night.
August 12th, 2009 at 8:50 pm
# THREE RING CIRCUS Says:
August 12th, 2009 at 8:47 pm
Dmac20 Says:
August 12th, 2009 at 8:42 pm
I feel the best way to play it is start fargas, let him wear down teams in the first quarter and soften the d up for dmac, use dmac in the second to third quarters and then let the big man bush take us home in the end.
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THREE AND OUT FARGLASS WEARING OUT THE DEFENSE. THE OPPOSING DEFENSE LOVES HIM.
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You think Farglass wears down a defense like SD? Bmore? NYJ? Pitt? Philly? NYG? Come on yall use your brains
August 12th, 2009 at 8:51 pm
Most coaches who want to keep their jobs stick elite talent on the bench. Its really common in the NFL.
August 12th, 2009 at 8:52 pm
MCFADDEN HAS BEEFED UP TO 218 POUNDS. HES READY TO MAKE AN IMPACT THIS YEAR. WE NEED HIM TO DO IT ON WEEK ONE.
August 12th, 2009 at 8:53 pm
Mike Bush must be just awesome, so awesome that he couldnt get on the field more often than not last year. Sure sign of a superstar.
August 12th, 2009 at 8:53 pm
RaiderRon Says:
August 12th, 2009 at 8:51 pm
Most coaches who want to keep their jobs stick elite talent on the bench. Its really common in the NFL.
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YEAH THE RAIDERS PAY MCFADDEN TO RIDE THE BENCH SERIOUSLY. 60 MILLION DOLLAR CONTRACT. WHAT A WASTE.
August 12th, 2009 at 8:53 pm
Rhonda stop right there if you are having trouble remembering things.
Farglass had like 80 yards and average 3.5 a carry with us scoring only 6 points
Miami? LOL you mean the worse defense ever and after Lamont Jordan was already killing them before he got hurt? HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
August 12th, 2009 at 8:54 pm
Do you remember Farglass fumble against Chitown?
August 12th, 2009 at 8:54 pm
But yea fargas not being able to get in on the goaline is more of the coaches mental error than fargas. Fargas goes in and does what he’s told, if the oline doesn’t hold up then??? But anyways if you revert back to the old days when the raiders were good and we had garner, wheatley, and zach crockett you never saw garner on the goaline. Who’d you see in goaline and short yarrdage situations??? Wheatley or crockett because they’re short yardage backs. Justin fargas is not a short yardage back and neither was garner… But people didn’t say he was a bad back because he wasn’t good at shortyadage situations. the only difference is, back then we had a smart enough coach who knew how to use the weapons we had properly. Lame kiffin??? art shell??? You really expect him to succeeed with those guys???
August 12th, 2009 at 8:55 pm
Didn’t Greg Beikert start every preseason game, and than get cut. More preseason carries for Fargas, means less wear on the two sports car in the garage.
August 12th, 2009 at 8:55 pm
RaiderRon Says:
August 12th, 2009 at 8:53 pm
Mike Bush must be just awesome, so awesome that he couldnt get on the field more often than not last year. Sure sign of a superstar.
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BUSH RAN FOR 177 YARDS AND 2 TD’S IN ONE GAME. I BELIEVE IF HE OR MCFADDEN WERE ONE OF THE CLEAR CUT STARTERS HE WILL BE RECOGNIZED AS A SUPER STAR.
August 12th, 2009 at 8:55 pm
I mean the problem couldnt be the garbage o-line or maybe the eratic QB or the swiss chees run d or the piss poor WRs. Nah…. Its totally Justin Fargas.
August 12th, 2009 at 8:56 pm
# RaiderRon Says:
August 12th, 2009 at 8:53 pm
Mike Bush must be just awesome, so awesome that he couldnt get on the field more often than not last year. Sure sign of a superstar.
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You mean the same staff that said Harris was the best option at LT? Same coaches who said Chaz and JLH werent good enuff to produce. Yup just awesome
August 12th, 2009 at 8:56 pm
I know dude, there has NEVER been a one hit wonder in the history of the NFL. NEVER!
August 12th, 2009 at 8:57 pm
# RaiderRon Says:
August 12th, 2009 at 8:55 pm
I mean the problem couldnt be the garbage o-line or maybe the eratic QB or the swiss chees run d or the piss poor WRs. Nah…. Its totally Justin Fargas.
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Oh now its the oline. You mean the one who was ranked like 6th in rushing offense?
August 12th, 2009 at 8:58 pm
Brien the General knows more than the Raider coaches. WOW! Why didnt you get hired instead of Cable? Did you have a bad interview with Al or what?
August 12th, 2009 at 8:58 pm
# RaiderRon Says:
August 12th, 2009 at 8:56 pm
I know dude, there has NEVER been a one hit wonder in the history of the NFL. NEVER!
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Rhonda how about never having a hit at all? That describes Farglass
August 12th, 2009 at 8:59 pm
Brien,
I bet you that Fargas has more carries in the preseason, than he does through the first 6 weeks of the regular season.
August 12th, 2009 at 8:59 pm
# RaiderRon Says:
August 12th, 2009 at 8:58 pm
Brien the General knows more than the Raider coaches. WOW! Why didnt you get hired instead of Cable? Did you have a bad interview with Al or what?
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This is typical of a woman right here. This is exactly something a damn dame would say
August 12th, 2009 at 8:59 pm
O-Lines get ranked?? Thats a new one. Now Brien the Clown says the o-line is good. Brillian!!
August 12th, 2009 at 9:00 pm
More commentary about Bush…this time San Diego
“Bush 1st down 40…STIFF ARMS A MAN AND RUNS ALL THE WAY TO THE CHARGES 25 YD LINE. Darren Smith has no idea what hit him!…He got a Michael Bush stiff arm and was one-armed into the ground.”
“Who was that truck that straight armed me”
August 12th, 2009 at 9:00 pm
So you did have a bad interview??
August 12th, 2009 at 9:00 pm
Vegas…………how about no carries at all in the season?
August 12th, 2009 at 9:01 pm
SnB,
Got any Bush highlights from weeks 6-15??
August 12th, 2009 at 9:02 pm
Vegas,
What do you want to bet? ANY amount of money.
August 12th, 2009 at 9:02 pm
# RaiderRon Says:
August 12th, 2009 at 8:59 pm
O-Lines get ranked?? Thats a new one. Now Brien the Clown says the o-line is good. Brillian!!
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Rhonda isnt there a Women’s movement meeting you should be attending right now?
The oline was a good run blocking unit that allowed holes to be opened for Farglass but yet you ignore that. Never said shhit about the pass blocking
August 12th, 2009 at 9:03 pm
RaiderRon Says:
August 12th, 2009 at 9:01 pm
SnB,
Got any Bush highlights from weeks 6-15??
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Sadly no. Coach Cable was trying to play him at FB. No highlights there.
Cable put Bush on the bench so Fargas could play
August 12th, 2009 at 9:03 pm
# RaiderRon Says:
August 12th, 2009 at 9:01 pm
SnB,
Got any Bush highlights from weeks 6-15??
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Name the Farglass highlights…..oh wait that vaunted one year TD dive against KC. Excellent
August 12th, 2009 at 9:04 pm
Is it a good line? Yes or no, fuk stick?
August 12th, 2009 at 9:04 pm
Is that a no SnB? Weeks 6-15
August 12th, 2009 at 9:05 pm
Rhonda is one of the pop warner parents…..” How come my baby aint out there playing? I paid my hard earned money to watch my son play”………..even though the kid is awful
August 12th, 2009 at 9:05 pm
Haha briens giving props to the o-line for ranking 6th in rushing. Yep justins horrible, and kwame harris sure can run that ball. We ranked sitch with justin starting and he so damn horrible.lol Give me a break. Justins not great but he isn’t bad either. Maybe doesn’t have the potential dmac and bush posses but he earns his check and deserves to be a raider point blank.
August 12th, 2009 at 9:06 pm
# RaiderRon Says:
August 12th, 2009 at 9:04 pm
Is it a good line? Yes or no, fuk stick?
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As far as run blocking goes most definitely is. And yes I do use my fuk stick
August 12th, 2009 at 9:07 pm
# Dmac20 Says:
August 12th, 2009 at 9:05 pm
Haha briens giving props to the o-line for ranking 6th in rushing. Yep justins horrible, and kwame harris sure can run that ball. We ranked sitch with justin starting and he so damn horrible.lol Give me a break. Justins not great but he isn’t bad either. Maybe doesn’t have the potential dmac and bush posses but he earns his check and deserves to be a raider point blank.
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Compared to the other years before hand the rushing department was much better. How could you deny that. Notice in 2007 year Lamont Jordan was playing pretty damn well until he was injured or do you deny that as well
August 12th, 2009 at 9:07 pm
Brien,
Nah, he will have his most carries in the games we are winning, and he will absorb the beating at the end of games when we are just trying to run out the clock.
You will gain a whole new level of appreciation for him, when he takes a demotion to 3rd team by week 3 in stride, and is asked to play special teams and block and gets creamed during the end of games. No complaints will be heard, and he will still push guys in practice and be ready to compete when asked. It’s not his job to put the best players on the field, you need to take your beef upstairs.
August 12th, 2009 at 9:08 pm
He isnt bad? Why in the fuk is he awful when he gets into the opponent’s territory?
August 12th, 2009 at 9:08 pm
Hmm… I thought the o-line had to block both the run and the pass. Guess I was wrong. The o-line is a good run block line and a horrible pass block line which means theyre part of the problem. Check mate.
August 12th, 2009 at 9:09 pm
And brien you know if you saw fargas out and you had your memorabilia ready you’d ask for his autograph.lol So stop hatin. haha
August 12th, 2009 at 9:09 pm
# vegas raider Says:
August 12th, 2009 at 9:07 pm
Brien,
Nah, he will have his most carries in the games we are winning, and he will absorb the beating at the end of games when we are just trying to run out the clock.
You will gain a whole new level of appreciation for him, when he takes a demotion to 3rd team by week 3 in stride, and is asked to play special teams and block and gets creamed during the end of games. No complaints will be heard, and he will still push guys in practice and be ready to compete when asked. It’s not his job to put the best players on the field, you need to take your beef upstairs.
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It will be too late by then
August 12th, 2009 at 9:10 pm
Where did you find the o-line rankings? Would like to check em out.
August 12th, 2009 at 9:11 pm
Who’s Mitchell?
August 12th, 2009 at 9:11 pm
# RaiderRon Says:
August 12th, 2009 at 9:08 pm
Hmm… I thought the o-line had to block both the run and the pass. Guess I was wrong. The o-line is a good run block line and a horrible pass block line which means theyre part of the problem. Check mate.
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As I said, typical womanly responses here from Rhonda. We are talking about a RUNNING BACK. You know what their primary function is? Check that punk
August 12th, 2009 at 9:11 pm
More Michael Bush highlights: K.C
“3rd down 5,Raiders, Chief 32 yd line..Curry goes in long motion he lines opposite right…Give it to Bush going left…and he RUNS FOR A 1ST DOWN AND HE BREAKS FREE 20….GAME OVER…and he cuts inside he’ll take it to the end zone for a touchdown…TOUCHDOOOOOOWN RAIDERS! A 32 yard run by Michael Bush to put the game away!”
August 12th, 2009 at 9:12 pm
# RaiderRon Says:
August 12th, 2009 at 9:10 pm
Where did you find the o-line rankings? Would like to check em out.
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Rhonda, you need to worry about that kitchen and doing your womanly duties. Football isnt for you
August 12th, 2009 at 9:12 pm
# Brien the General Says:
August 12th, 2009 at 9:06 pm
“As far as run blocking goes most definitely is. And yes I do use my fuk stick”
LOL.
August 12th, 2009 at 9:12 pm
Sad for me to say this, but MR is right about that first game of the year
MR I’m also seeing what you mean by dumb Raider fans now
August 12th, 2009 at 9:13 pm
If the Raiders lose vs SD the season is done
August 12th, 2009 at 9:13 pm
You responded to my post about bigger problems the Raiders have than Fargas where I listed the o-line as one of them. You spouted off in defense of the o-line. Clear enough for you? Or should I type slower?
August 12th, 2009 at 9:14 pm
Ron,
I see Fargas getting between 10-12 carries a game in the preseason, putting him around 40 or so at the end of preseason. Now barring injury, I only see him seeing maybe a drive or two a half, maybe 5-6 touches a game. So, we can wager what only a true man would be afraid of losing, his reputation as being either right or FOS.
August 12th, 2009 at 9:14 pm
Rhonda I need you to cook them eggs a little slower
August 12th, 2009 at 9:15 pm
So you dont remember where you saw the o-line rankings or what?
August 12th, 2009 at 9:15 pm
cmon mannow your just reaching. He only shuts down in opponents territory??? maybe because the raiders were so predictable and so scared to let jamarcus throw throughout the whole damn season. So if you the opponent knows thye runs coming don’t you think their chances of stopping the run are that much more likely.
August 12th, 2009 at 9:15 pm
RaiderRon Says:
August 12th, 2009 at 9:04 pm
Is that a no SnB? Weeks 6-15
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There are no highlights from weeks 6-15. Coach Cable was trying to play Bush at FB so he could block for Fargas.
August 12th, 2009 at 9:16 pm
SnB, (#152)
You have the call of Bush fumbling about 4 plays before that, lol?
August 12th, 2009 at 9:16 pm
Rhonda you are an idiotic bitch you know that?
You mentioned the chicago game from 2007 and get wrecked trying to blame the oline. You are scrambling woman. We are talking about a running back and run blocking I think is essential to his success right or wrong?
August 12th, 2009 at 9:17 pm
You are a fool if you think that Fargas gets 10-12 carries in a preseason game. Your a freakn retard if you think he only gets 5 or 6 in reg season. Ill bet you right now that he dont get 10 carries tomorrow. Loser never comes back to this blog.
August 12th, 2009 at 9:17 pm
Brien, I went and looked at the numbers one night. Figured I’d back up my claims with facts for a change. And I think only two seasons, in like the past 20 years, our entire season didn’t go by the way of our first game. We win our first game, we go to the playoffs. We lose, we suck all year. I don’t know what it is about the Raiders’ organization that makes it that way, but that’s how it works. I don’t see the urgency out of Cable. One way of telling is that he isn’t fighting with Al. Usually coaches who take the control they’ll need to take to win clash with Al. Nothing. Cable’s acting as if we can lose to SD and rebound. History says that’s not going to happen. Week one is the Super Bowl for the Raiders.
August 12th, 2009 at 9:18 pm
# RaiderRon Says:
August 12th, 2009 at 9:15 pm
So you dont remember where you saw the o-line rankings or what?
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If you are that curious go find it yourself my lady. o-line rankings as a whole? I never said that did i? I’m talking about the rank as far as the run game goes. 6th in 2007 and 10th last year. This is a common knowledge and has been discussed on this site many times if you havent noticed. But just like a woman you pick and choose what you want to hear
August 12th, 2009 at 9:19 pm
# vegas raider Says:
August 12th, 2009 at 9:16 pm
SnB, (#152)
You have the call of Bush fumbling about 4 plays before that, lol?
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Who caused the fumble? Wasnt it his teammates foot? Cornell Green’s? Thank you
August 12th, 2009 at 9:19 pm
I can easily go back and read the post where I listed the REAL reasons the Raiders lose and also your immediate response. I never even said Chicago and 0-line in the same post.
August 12th, 2009 at 9:20 pm
# The Real MaddenRaider Says:
August 12th, 2009 at 9:17 pm
Brien, I went and looked at the numbers one night. Figured I’d back up my claims with facts for a change. And I think only two seasons, in like the past 20 years, our entire season didn’t go by the way of our first game. We win our first game, we go to the playoffs. We lose, we suck all year. I don’t know what it is about the Raiders’ organization that makes it that way, but that’s how it works. I don’t see the urgency out of Cable. One way of telling is that he isn’t fighting with Al. Usually coaches who take the control they’ll need to take to win clash with Al. Nothing. Cable’s acting as if we can lose to SD and rebound. History says that’s not going to happen. Week one is the Super Bowl for the Raiders.
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I dont have to look that up. I knew that already but you are totally right. But Farglass gets a bulk ofthe carries we will lose
August 12th, 2009 at 9:20 pm
vegas raider Says:
August 12th, 2009 at 9:16 pm
SnB, (#152)
You have the call of Bush fumbling about 4 plays before that, lol?
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Naw, not going to call that one. Why go negative and show fumbles…and anyway…unlike the fumble against K.C some 10 wks later….the Bush fumble in week 2 didn’t lose the game
August 12th, 2009 at 9:21 pm
Who was the back when that line was ranked 6th??
August 12th, 2009 at 9:21 pm
The Raiders won’t run the ball. I’m telling you, they won’t. Look at what happens to all of our coaches who ground the offense. I know Cable ran the ball our final two games last year, but he won’t continue to. I’m making two predictions right now, and they aint gonna be pretty. 1) We lose to SD. 2) We run the ball less than 20 times in that game. I’ll take my lumps if I’m wrong.
August 12th, 2009 at 9:22 pm
# RaiderRon Says:
August 12th, 2009 at 9:19 pm
I can easily go back and read the post where I listed the REAL reasons the Raiders lose and also your immediate response. I never even said Chicago and 0-line in the same post.
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My god you idiot, Farglass is the topic which we were discussing right? Then you went to use erratic QB play and oline play as your justification right after mentioning the chi-town game. I also think you mentioned the miami game which I shut down immediately. You are going this direction and that direction for Farglass when its obvious the guy isnt good at all
August 12th, 2009 at 9:23 pm
# RaiderRon Says:
August 12th, 2009 at 9:21 pm
Who was the back when that line was ranked 6th??
You idiot who were the backs is what you should be asking
August 12th, 2009 at 9:23 pm
Rhonda shut the hell up. You dont even remember games hardly so stop with it right now
August 12th, 2009 at 9:23 pm
Ill pretend your a big enough idiot NOT to know I was refering to your Fargas is the reason the Raiders lose garbage. Nice try though jack off.
August 12th, 2009 at 9:24 pm
Who was the one who went over a grand and avgd 4.5 per carry? What was his name fag?
August 12th, 2009 at 9:25 pm
# The Real MaddenRaider Says:
August 12th, 2009 at 9:21 pm
The Raiders won’t run the ball. I’m telling you, they won’t. Look at what happens to all of our coaches who ground the offense. I know Cable ran the ball our final two games last year, but he won’t continue to. I’m making two predictions right now, and they aint gonna be pretty. 1) We lose to SD. 2) We run the ball less than 20 times in that game. I’ll take my lumps if I’m wrong.
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I was having high hopes but not anymore. Barnes got hurt and now Green will be there against Phillips. Yikes! Farglass we know will start. Double Yikes! Gerard Warren and Kirk will start against Tomlinson. Triple Yikes!!!
August 12th, 2009 at 9:25 pm
too many questions on our team to win
RIGHT TACKLE POSTION IS HORRIBLE= MORE SACKS FOR THE DISCHARGERS
CENTER POSTITION IS SHAKY AT BEST NO CLEAR CUT ANSWER THERE EVER SINCE ROBBINS
LINE BACKERS PLAYING MUSICAL CHAIRS
DEFENSIVE LINE MEN WHO CANT STOP THE RUN= OHH BY THE WAY LADANIAN TOMLINSONS COMING TO TOWN ALONG WITH SPROLES. ANOTHER 150 YARD RUSHING GAME FOR LT INCLUDING TWO TDS TO BOOT
NO PROVEN TALENT AT THE SAFETY POSTION!!!
FARGAS IS STARTING
WIDE RECEIVERS HAVE REALLY DONE NOTHING IN THIS LEAGUE EXCEPT FOR WALKER AND HES NOT MAKING ANY IMPACT SOON
A QUARTERBACK THAT SEEMS TO THROW ARRANT PASSES UNLESS ITS THE FASTBALL.
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ON THE OTHER HAND THE ONLY BRIGHT SPOTS I SEE IS
THE LEFT SIDE OF THE OLINE IS GOOD ENOUGH NOT GREAT
TWO POTENTIALLY GREAT RUNNING BACKS INCLUDING ONE DECENT BACK IN FARGAS.
YOUNG FAST WR CORPS
CORNER BACKS WHO CAN PLAY MAN D
AND THE WEAKSIDE LINEBACKER POSITION
THE FULL BACK POSITION
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TOO MANY QUESTIONMARKS AT CRITICAL POSTIONS TO WIN GAMES IN THE NFL PERIOD
I PREDICT
7-9 AND THATS PUSHING IT.
August 12th, 2009 at 9:26 pm
# RaiderRon Says:
August 12th, 2009 at 9:24 pm
Who was the one who went over a grand and avgd 4.5 per carry? What was his name fag?
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And what did he do that year against the better run defenses?
Oh and then in 2008 why did have damn near the same amount of carries with less yards and touchdowns?
August 12th, 2009 at 9:26 pm
How many games you got the Raiders winning? And spare me with the “if Fargas starts this many” sheet. Just man up and answer a simple question.
August 12th, 2009 at 9:27 pm
Ron,
A retard huh? We shall see, 10 carries for Fargas tomorrow seems very likely.
Brien,
A fumble is a fumble my friend, especially in the 4th quarter. I might even say it is worse if you fumble without really being hit by a defender. After all, isn’t that what Fargas does?
August 12th, 2009 at 9:28 pm
Vegas,
Put up or shut up. Is it a bet?
August 12th, 2009 at 9:29 pm
Rhonda, you realize that Farglass leaves yards on the field? That means if there is a guy to make miss or an extra yard or two to get he can do it. That hurts your team
August 12th, 2009 at 9:30 pm
# vegas raider Says:
August 12th, 2009 at 9:27 pm
Ron,
A retard huh? We shall see, 10 carries for Fargas tomorrow seems very likely.
Brien,
A fumble is a fumble my friend, especially in the 4th quarter. I might even say it is worse if you fumble without really being hit by a defender. After all, isn’t that what Fargas does?
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You mean the tickle he got vs KC last year? The costly fumble
August 12th, 2009 at 9:31 pm
I watched DMC leave a TON of yards on the field last year. If you disagree with that then you really are a fool.
August 12th, 2009 at 9:31 pm
too many questions on our team to win
RIGHT TACKLE POSTION IS HORRIBLE= MORE SACKS FOR THE DISCHARGERS
CENTER POSTITION IS SHAKY AT BEST NO CLEAR CUT ANSWER THERE EVER SINCE ROBBINS
LINE BACKERS PLAYING MUSICAL CHAIRS
DEFENSIVE LINE MEN WHO CANT STOP THE RUN= OHH BY THE WAY LADANIAN TOMLINSONS COMING TO TOWN ALONG WITH SPROLES. ANOTHER 150 YARD RUSHING GAME FOR LT INCLUDING TWO TDS TO BOOT
NO PROVEN TALENT AT THE SAFETY POSTION!!!
FARGAS IS STARTING
WIDE RECEIVERS HAVE REALLY DONE NOTHING IN THIS LEAGUE EXCEPT FOR WALKER AND HES NOT MAKING ANY IMPACT SOON
A QUARTERBACK THAT SEEMS TO THROW ARRANT PASSES UNLESS ITS THE FASTBALL.
=====================================
ON THE OTHER HAND THE ONLY BRIGHT SPOTS I SEE IS
THE LEFT SIDE OF THE OLINE IS GOOD ENOUGH NOT GREAT
TWO POTENTIALLY GREAT RUNNING BACKS INCLUDING ONE DECENT BACK IN FARGAS.
YOUNG FAST WR CORPS
CORNER BACKS WHO CAN PLAY MAN D
AND THE WEAKSIDE LINEBACKER POSITION
THE FULL BACK POSITION
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TOO MANY QUESTIONMARKS AT CRITICAL POSTIONS TO WIN GAMES IN THE NFL PERIOD
I PREDICT
7-9 AND THATS PUSHING IT.
N
August 12th, 2009 at 9:31 pm
No answer Brien? Shocker!
August 12th, 2009 at 9:33 pm
Ron,
My original bet is on the table, more carries in preseason than by week 6 (barring injuries). Spare me the bloviating.
August 12th, 2009 at 9:33 pm
With Farglass starting and getting the bulk of the carries…………….6-10
August 12th, 2009 at 9:33 pm
# vegas raider Says:
August 12th, 2009 at 9:33 pm
Ron,
My original bet is on the table, more carries in preseason than by week 6 (barring injuries). Spare me the bloviating.
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That is what women do
August 12th, 2009 at 9:34 pm
Guess you are a fool. DMC is being way overhyped by Raider fan, he was ok last year, but thats it.
August 12th, 2009 at 9:34 pm
The starters at RB,RT,NT,FS and MLB are the reason why I cant endorse a 10-6 season
August 12th, 2009 at 9:35 pm
OK then Vegas. Loser never comes back to this blog. Deal?
August 12th, 2009 at 9:36 pm
Overhyped…….then how come he made more plays than Farglass last year? Was he overhyped by Russell when he begged Cable to put him in more? Please do tell
August 12th, 2009 at 9:36 pm
Nah, after you lose I would like to hear from you.
August 12th, 2009 at 9:36 pm
Vegas is a vital partof this blog and will always be welcomed. You can go back to fellatio giving blog
August 12th, 2009 at 9:38 pm
Sorry Ron but this is the NFL and injuries play a huge part. If it was two weeks ago I would have said 10-6. With Green,Fargas,Warren,Eugene, and Morrison starting its trouble
August 12th, 2009 at 9:39 pm
Just dropped by to see what’s being discussed.
Brien, who’s your new girlfriend?
August 12th, 2009 at 9:39 pm
Come on Huggy Jr. Snap that ankle so you dont help in destroying the offense
August 12th, 2009 at 9:40 pm
# Raider Dell Says:
August 12th, 2009 at 9:39 pm
Just dropped by to see what’s being discussed.
Brien, who’s your new girlfriend?
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Excuse me?
August 12th, 2009 at 9:40 pm
Being obsessed with me doesnt make her my girlfriend Dell
August 12th, 2009 at 9:41 pm
We need Bush to start. He’s a bruiser. Alternate with Run DMC.
August 12th, 2009 at 9:41 pm
Brien
Let me put it this way, who are you running circles around tonight.
August 12th, 2009 at 9:42 pm
It is all about this SD game and if you dont know it by now………very talented RBs give that SD defense fits.
August 12th, 2009 at 9:43 pm
Well it has been fun yall. It was the usual slap fest but my Colt 45’s are here finally and its time to sip some malt liquor. I’m at yall later. Take care and just win!!!!!!
August 12th, 2009 at 9:44 pm
Brien
This constant debate about AFLAC is just so easy.
August 12th, 2009 at 9:46 pm
Dell it is. The debate about players like Green,Walker,Morrison,Warren,Eugene is quite easy………goodnite
August 12th, 2009 at 9:47 pm
THREE RING CIRCUS Says:
August 12th, 2009 at 9:25 pm
too many questions on our team to win
RIGHT TACKLE POSTION IS HORRIBLE= MORE SACKS FOR THE DISCHARGERS
CENTER POSTITION IS SHAKY AT BEST NO CLEAR CUT ANSWER THERE EVER SINCE ROBBINS
LINE BACKERS PLAYING MUSICAL CHAIRS
DEFENSIVE LINE MEN WHO CANT STOP THE RUN= OHH BY THE WAY LADANIAN TOMLINSONS COMING TO TOWN ALONG WITH SPROLES. ANOTHER 150 YARD RUSHING GAME FOR LT INCLUDING TWO TDS TO BOOT
NO PROVEN TALENT AT THE SAFETY POSTION!!!
FARGAS IS STARTING
WIDE RECEIVERS HAVE REALLY DONE NOTHING IN THIS LEAGUE EXCEPT FOR WALKER AND HES NOT MAKING ANY IMPACT SOON
A QUARTERBACK THAT SEEMS TO THROW ARRANT PASSES UNLESS ITS THE FASTBALL.
=====================================
ON THE OTHER HAND THE ONLY BRIGHT SPOTS I SEE IS
THE LEFT SIDE OF THE OLINE IS GOOD ENOUGH NOT GREAT
TWO POTENTIALLY GREAT RUNNING BACKS INCLUDING ONE DECENT BACK IN FARGAS.
YOUNG FAST WR CORPS
CORNER BACKS WHO CAN PLAY MAN D
AND THE WEAKSIDE LINEBACKER POSITION
THE FULL BACK POSITION
=======================================
TOO MANY QUESTIONMARKS AT CRITICAL POSTIONS TO WIN GAMES IN THE NFL PERIOD
I PREDICT
7-9 AND THATS PUSHING IT.
I AM A RAIDER FAN BUT THIS IS MY HONEST TO GOD ASSESMENT FOR THE BEGINING OF THIS SEASON
August 12th, 2009 at 9:47 pm
Brien
Later my friend.
August 12th, 2009 at 10:02 pm
Good evening Nation.
August 12th, 2009 at 10:11 pm
“However, at running back, Cable said he plans to play Justin Fargas, Darren McFadden and Michael Bush, alternating them throughout the first half in a system he may want to use throughout the season.
“I want to start inplementing the lan that we want to use in terms of getting them all involved,” Cable said.”
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Stupid idea. RBs are better if they can get into a rhythm. Two backs is OK, but 3 backs is too much. DMC might end up touching the ball once or twice or even no times at all in a given quarter with a system like that. The 3rd back needs to play very sparingly if at all. I sense Cable knows in his heart that DMC and Bush are the best backs but he wants Fargas to save face and be rewarded for running hard. I say let the best man tote the rock.
August 12th, 2009 at 10:19 pm
[...] top pick Darrius Heyward-Bey will play Thursday against Dallas, while second-round pick Mike Mitchell [...]
August 12th, 2009 at 10:21 pm
Brien is a passionate Raider fan,but it is annoying the way he thinks he knows so much more than the coaching staff.it is also annoying that if he doesn’t like a player that player must be terrible and he continually harps about him,thus creating the mob mentality that said player must go.
August 12th, 2009 at 10:22 pm
We need some help at Safety…AGAIN!
Mitch sounds like a great kid, but this ‘hammy’ is gonna be an issue…
August 12th, 2009 at 10:27 pm
Chris,Cable has mentioned more than once that one of the things about Bush is he doesn’t need a lot of carries to get into a rhythm,that he can come in and be effective immediately.besides,it’s a practice game,let things work themselves out.
August 12th, 2009 at 10:46 pm
people on here,MR,Brien,and a few others,keep bringing up that if we lose the 1st game to SD our season is over.WRONG.1st off,SD is being picked by many to be SB contenders.we all hate the dischargers,but just because we hate them and want them to be terrible doesn’t make it so.2nd,it’s how you finish and progress that is important,not how you play the 1st game.that’s just something MR is trying to get everyone to buy into.we should hope we play well the 1st game and hopefully win,but if we don’t win,the season isn’t over-no matter what MR and Brien say.
August 12th, 2009 at 10:52 pm
# RaiderRon Says:
August 12th, 2009 at 9:24 pm
Who was the one who went over a grand and avgd 4.5 per carry? What was his name fag?
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Hey Ron,
Couldn’t have put it better dude. I’ve been reading the posts above and that Brien dude is punk.
I’m completely blown away by the lack of respect Fargas receives by so many freakin’ morons on this site.
These people are not Raider fans and have no business calling themselves that.
You’re all a bunch of little bitches. Same people who had a hard-on for Kerry Collins before Gannon got hurt.
You people love numbers. How about you pay a little more attention to what goes on during the “little” plays – you know – the 3, 4 yard plays. Those are the plays that define a team over the course of a season. It’s not the “highlights” you see on ESPN that define a good team.
You people are so lame, it makes me want to puke.
August 12th, 2009 at 10:55 pm
Vegas-post 108(8:49pm)-to some on here it is just as or more complicated than rocket science.
August 12th, 2009 at 11:10 pm
# Silver-n-Smac Says:
August 12th, 2009 at 10:52 pm
# RaiderRon Says:
August 12th, 2009 at 9:24 pm
Who was the one who went over a grand and avgd 4.5 per carry? What was his name fag?
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Hey Ron,
Couldn’t have put it better dude. I’ve been reading the posts above and that Brien dude is punk.
I’m completely blown away by the lack of respect Fargas receives by so many freakin’ morons on this site.
These people are not Raider fans and have no business calling themselves that.
You’re all a bunch of little bitches. Same people who had a hard-on for Kerry Collins before Gannon got hurt.
You people love numbers. How about you pay a little more attention to what goes on during the “little” plays – you know – the 3, 4 yard plays. Those are the plays that define a team over the course of a season. It’s not the “highlights” you see on ESPN that define a good team.
You people are so lame, it makes me want to puke.
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Aw shut you bitch. Stop making excuses for Farglass. He lacks talent. What is it that makes you deny that?
August 12th, 2009 at 11:10 pm
Smack addict…………… are you idiots aware that getting over a 1000 yards doesnt carry the same significance as it use to in the 80s and 90s?
August 12th, 2009 at 11:12 pm
Brien<——-a punk that states the facts. You guys have a loser spirit and you enjoy losing
August 12th, 2009 at 11:14 pm
# lefty12 Says:
August 12th, 2009 at 10:46 pm
people on here,MR,Brien,and a few others,keep bringing up that if we lose the 1st game to SD our season is over.WRONG.1st off,SD is being picked by many to be SB contenders.we all hate the dischargers,but just because we hate them and want them to be terrible doesn’t make it so.2nd,it’s how you finish and progress that is important,not how you play the 1st game.that’s just something MR is trying to get everyone to buy into.we should hope we play well the 1st game and hopefully win,but if we don’t win,the season isn’t over-no matter what MR and Brien say.
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Sorry leftster but the morale will be sucked out of the team if they lose that game. It will mean the team isnt ready. You cant win on opening night in front of your hometown against a hated rival? Lose for the 12th time in a row? Come on man
August 12th, 2009 at 11:24 pm
sorry,Brien,but i don’t agree with you.the team is young and growing.if they put a good showing up it will help their confidence and give them something to build on,even if they lose.SD is considered one of the elite teams in the AFC,even if we Raider fans refuse to accept it.a good showing,even if it’s a lose will be beneficial.
August 12th, 2009 at 11:25 pm
SD isnt as great as people think
August 12th, 2009 at 11:25 pm
btw,if the morale is sucked out after 1 game,they shouldn’t be playing in the NFL.
August 12th, 2009 at 11:26 pm
their window passed
August 12th, 2009 at 11:27 pm
lefty, i doubt that
August 12th, 2009 at 11:27 pm
that game means everything
August 12th, 2009 at 11:31 pm
i heard an interview with the cowgirls announcer the other night and he mentioned that every year there are teams that are supposed to be good that aren’t;there are teams that aren’t supposed to be good that are.we just have to hope we are 1 of the teams that isn’t supposed to be good but is,and SD is 1 that is supposed to be good but isn’t.
August 12th, 2009 at 11:34 pm
Brien,you know as well as i do you can’t put your total emphasis on a single game,especially the 1st game of a 16 game season.
August 12th, 2009 at 11:35 pm
come on peeps. if the 80s and 90s arent comparable to todays 1000 yard accomplishmenst cause the “game changed”, then the point MR makes with his theory of loosing the first game going all the way back is moooot! and all of his other trips down memory-lane looking to make his cases too. or should i say his only case. you cant slice up the damn past and make it fit your daily agendas mayn, come on….
yes, the game changed. we have “just” wittnessed the Giants be the first team to win the SB starting 0-4 as a fact. and what REALLY matters nowadays with the pretty equal talent on each and every team and all is who is hot in NOVEMBER and DECEMBER, period. you can be a 3-4 team and catch fire, find your rythm and best plays and noone can stop you. not even a team thats 0-18……
August 12th, 2009 at 11:37 pm
oops. i meant to say 18-0 of course. lol
August 12th, 2009 at 11:38 pm
Lefty, ok you can disagree with me all you want to. It is fine if you do. Just remember losing that game will devastate the team. This is the top dog in the division since 2004. They have punked the Raider over and over again. The team was kicking their ass that first meeting last season and then blew it. Those division games hurt worse when you lose them
August 12th, 2009 at 11:39 pm
We arent like other teams. IMO the team needs to win those first 3 games! Houston will be a tough road game so will NYG. You think Philly afterwards will be easy? Before the bye we gotta go to SD. It is vital the team gets off to a great start
August 12th, 2009 at 11:40 pm
There will be nothing to compare like whipping SD’s ass on MNF football putting the NFL on notice
August 12th, 2009 at 11:42 pm
# CantstandtheHaters Says:
August 12th, 2009 at 11:35 pm
come on peeps. if the 80s and 90s arent comparable to todays 1000 yard accomplishmenst cause the “game changed”, then the point MR makes with his theory of loosing the first game going all the way back is moooot! and all of his other trips down memory-lane looking to make his cases too. or should i say his only case. you cant slice up the damn past and make it fit your daily agendas mayn, come on….
yes, the game changed. we have “just” wittnessed the Giants be the first team to win the SB starting 0-4 as a fact. and what REALLY matters nowadays with the pretty equal talent on each and every team and all is who is hot in NOVEMBER and DECEMBER, period. you can be a 3-4 team and catch fire, find your rythm and best plays and noone can stop you. not even a team thats 0-18……
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NYG lost their first two games not four my friend. That is a fact
August 12th, 2009 at 11:43 pm
And as a matter of fact that Giant team didnt really get it going until they barely lost at home the last game of the season vs the Pats. It was a great test to get them ready for the inferior NFC playoffs
August 12th, 2009 at 11:44 pm
Im out. Take care
August 12th, 2009 at 11:47 pm
Brien,if they beat the living crap out of us,i agree with your assessment.if we play them tight,i see that helping a very young team knowing they can compete with the best in their division.after all,isn’t this season really about growing,learning,and then taking charge of the division next year.we can’t really expect to win the division this year,even though that would be great.i believe this year is more about proving we belong than winning the whole thing,after all,we are one of the youngest teams in the league.
August 12th, 2009 at 11:48 pm
Lefty, I’m going by the history of this football team. In the past 13 years our season has not strayed from the outcome of the first game. Of course anything can happen. But history says that when the Raiders lose week one, they don’t make the playoffs. When they win week one, they do.
Can’t stand the haters,
2008: Lost week one, 5-11
2007: Lost week one, 4-12
2006: Lost week one, 2-14
2005: Lost week one, 4-12
2004: Lost week one, 5-11
2003: Lost week one, 4-12
2002: Week one win, Super Bowl appearance
2001: Week one win, Division champs
2000: Week one win, Division champs
1999: lost week one, 8-8, no playoffs
1998: lost week one, 8-8, no playoffs
1997: lost week one, 4-12
1996: lost week one, 7-9
1995, was the last season that this pattern didn’t hold true. We won week one, didn’t go to the playoffs.
You have to go back 14 seasons to point to the last year that the Raiders’ entire season didn’t go the way week one went.
But, anything can happen. History, however, dictates that the season will go as week one goes.
August 12th, 2009 at 11:52 pm
Lefty, if we win week one, you’ll surely sign on to my point, won’t you? LOL. You’ll be all over it. All of you will. If we win, I’ll be a pioneer in here by pulling up those numbers, making the point that we likely will go to the playoffs because we won week one. It seems, on the other hand, that you’re anticipating a week one loss, by sort of already making a preemptive argument against the week one theory.
August 12th, 2009 at 11:54 pm
really? sry bout that, just posted w/o looking it up. but it doesnt make a diff in the eyes of the fans and the pundits, whether its 2, 3 or 4 losses nowadays while it is not true anymore. you can overcome a bad start, the game changed as you guys say all the time.
but Fargas, where this convo all started, is just better overall right now with the neccesary evil that is blocking for his position. especially since its all about the QB here. the running game as it is is our strength anyway, so thtas another reason why i dont understand the fuss about who is in there next season… just let JF be the pacer for the upcoming season, or half if the other guys are ready in the coaches oppinions, and he will get out the way and let the youngsters carry the load and still being the leader he is now.
later
August 12th, 2009 at 11:57 pm
i could buy that if this was the same team-same coaches,same players.but it isn’t.every year is a new year and what happened before doesn’t mean it will happen again.let’s look at it this way.suppose before 1995 we lost the 1st game and went on to have a winning season,or even make the play-offs, more than not,which i really have no clue whether we did or not.if that happened couldn’t you say we would have had winning seasons after that even if we lost the 1st game.
August 12th, 2009 at 11:58 pm
can’t stand the haters,
of course we “can” overcome a bad start. We can go 16-0 and win the Super Bowl by 30 points, too. My point is, according the past 14 seasons, we have about as much of a chance of doing that as we do making any kind of a season of it after losing week one.
August 12th, 2009 at 11:59 pm
Lefty, we still have the same GM as we’ve had all of those years. Same Raiders. Nothing’s changed.
August 13th, 2009 at 12:02 am
no,i’m not conceding the 1st game,don’t try and turn things around and put words in my mouth,which you like to do to people which is why i usually don’t respond to you.i’m just saying IF we lose the 1st game it doesn’t mean the season is lost.
August 13th, 2009 at 12:08 am
You’re right, Lefty. If we lose the 1st game, it doesn’t mean for certain that the season is lost. Just very likely, according to history. That’s all I’m saying. I’m not trying to change your opinion.
August 13th, 2009 at 12:11 am
The reason why I assumed you were conceding week one, Lefty, is because you should just be saying that my point is moot because we’re going to kill SD in week one, right? If we win week one, will you then like my theory better? Because it will work in your favor. Don’t knock my point now, then turn around when we win week one and say, “hey, for the past 15 years, whenever we win week one, we go to the playoffs! yes!!”. That wouldn’t be fair now, would it, when you’re smacking the theory down now?
August 13th, 2009 at 12:14 am
i would also say If we win week 1,it doesn’t mean we will win the division and go to the SB.it’s just the 1st game of a 16 game schedule.a lot can happen between the beginning of Sept. and the middle of Jan.
August 13th, 2009 at 12:15 am
Fair enough then, Lefty. But I’d have to disagree with you. If we win week one, I believe we will go to the playoffs. History rarely lies. There’s something about this organization where week one really tells us a lot.
August 13th, 2009 at 12:16 am
You know what’s so funny Lefty12, you would think that these guy’s believe we are saying Farga is better than Bush and DMC. We are all saying the same thing but with emphasis on different aspects.
Everyone knows Bush and DMC are better……everyne agree? OK! but objective ones understand what Fargas brings to the table.
The coaches are making these decisions not the fans so arguing with me or anyone else is useless. IF and I say IF the coaches feel Fargas should start obviously there is a very good reason wether WE like it or not………..period
ONe thing Cable said that got my attention is that all 3 will be on the field at one time. That said it all. All three are having an impact on this offense and wether we agree or not Fargas is making a case for himself IN PRACTICE.
There is a saying in football that’s very true “the eye in the sky wont lie” that eye is saying that Fargas is having one hell of a camp. That’s his job to make it hard on the coaches to choose between him and the two phenoms. It’s the phenoms job to make it easy, heard that anywhere before?
Garcia said the same thing about Russell and everyone applauded well Fargas doesn’t run his mouth like Garcia he just goes out and performs while Garcia sits on the sidelines. Fargas is performing or else we wouldn’t be having this discussion……………..period
August 13th, 2009 at 12:19 am
Chuurch!!! Preach priest!! Preach!!
August 13th, 2009 at 12:22 am
You know trmr… We lost four games in a row when we went to the sb that year. So one game wouldn’t spell the death of our season. Especially with how bad our division is.
August 13th, 2009 at 12:22 am
oohh its about youre theory haha fair enough. plus i like the way you still say “we” MR. i hope we start winning and when youre done with your portion of crow, like the Giants fans in 2007 when Manning was a bust and their coach Hit/er and cant get enough lips on they asses today, you keep posting here regardless. you are funny
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priesttj Says:
August 13th, 2009 at 12:16 am
Garcia said the same thing about Russell and everyone applauded well Fargas doesn’t run his mouth like Garcia he just goes out and performs while Garcia sits on the sidelines. Fargas is performing or else we wouldn’t be having this discussion……………..period
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word! make that exeptional talent work they butt of to get the job. this is the formula that will bring us back, Nation.
August 13th, 2009 at 12:24 am
Dmac20, as you and Jhill said earlier, if DMC and Bush were what everyone says they are why are the coaches keeping Fargas in the mix?
Answer: Fargas is forcing them to………period
August 13th, 2009 at 12:26 am
Priest,don’t you know these guys are at practice every day and see all?they are also in the film room after practice going over all the tape of that day.how dare the coaches who do this for a living question them.they all know so much more,that’s why their posting on this blog instead of working for some team.
August 13th, 2009 at 12:27 am
DMAc, that’s true. We dropped 4 straight in the Super Bowl season. But that doesn’t refute my point about the first game. You have to go back to 1995 to point to a season where week one wouldn’t be an indication of our final record.
August 13th, 2009 at 12:29 am
Can’t Stand The Haters, I will be here to “eat crow”, as you put it, when we win. I don’t know why I’d be eating crow because I’m a Raider fan and I’d be as happy as anyone. However, I would certainly admit that I was wrong in saying that Al Davis has lost his touch, and has made it impossible to coach here. If that’s ever proven wrong, I’ll own up to it. But I’ll be as happy as anyone. I’ve been a Raider fan since the ’70s. How long have you been a fan?
August 13th, 2009 at 12:35 am
Lefty12, no coach in his right mind is poing to put his job on the line for a low budget underperforming aged HB, when he has two phenoms standing next to him.
Fargas is getting it done………..period
can’tstand, These guy’s can yell and scream all they want, Cable is going to play the guy he feels he can win with and if Fargas is part of that equation………so be it.
August 13th, 2009 at 12:36 am
i know you will, thats why i meant what i said. i like youre enthusiasm and would like to experience that on a donkey fan when he sticks his head in here lol you know?
August 13th, 2009 at 12:37 am
I hope so, preist. Coaches that ground the offense don’t stay in good favor with Al for long. Hopefully Cable pounds that ball, and hopefully Al doesn’t get upset for underusing his first round qb.
August 13th, 2009 at 12:38 am
opinions are fine.what bothers me is when people start acting like their opinions are facts,ie. i can’t stand this player so he sucks and shouldn’t play-Cable is stupid for playing him.like the coaching staff is playing inferior players on purpose so they can lose.that might have been the case with Lance,but not the current group of experienced coaches.
August 13th, 2009 at 12:42 am
MR, what? Davis doesn’t like the running game?
I’m sorry dude, waste it on someone that desn’t know any better. We’ve been emphasizing the running game ever since I’ve been a Raider fan. Why in hell do you think we have such a glut of HB’s and FB’s for cosmetic purposes?? HELLO!!!
August 13th, 2009 at 12:43 am
What really scares me is starting the season with Frye as the starting QB.
Who cares who starts tonight. Just want everyone to stay healthy for the season.
San Diego has started slow the last few years and the Raiders need this to hold. Taking game one would be a huge boost to moral and help these guys believe they can win.
August 13th, 2009 at 12:46 am
Lane Kiffin was trying to lose, Lefty? Wow. That’s a serious charge. I think Lane was trying to turn a 2-4 team around by modernizing the offense, and in his view, Josh McCown was more modern than Daunte Culpepper. His offense was a high percentage pass offense, similar to the WCO, and he felt MCcown was better suited for it than Culpepper, a green Russell, who had held out into the regular season, if I remember correctly (that will cost you a starting job on anyone’s team), and obviously Walter, who might be the most un west coast qb we’ve ever had. Kiffin’s gone because he didn’t respect Al’s regime. His goal was just to win, period. Al’s goal is to do things his way. That’s all it was.
August 13th, 2009 at 12:48 am
preist, we’ve had way too many sub 20 run attempt games in recent years to have been “emphasizing” the running game. The Raiders are notorious for abandoning the run early in games. We’ve had two coaches in recent memory who really liked to pound that rock, Kiffin and Gruden. You do the math.
August 13th, 2009 at 12:48 am
Lane Kiffin was trying to turn a 2-14 team, not 2-4, I meant to say.
August 13th, 2009 at 12:49 am
many complain about the 3 an outs we have so often and blame Fargas.he avgs. almost 4 yds a carry.3 x 3.9=11.7.they forget about the false starts,the holding,the off sides that make 2nd and 5 or 3rd and short 2nd and long or 3rd and long that Fargas has nothing to do with.they forget about how Jordan was a bystander as a DE or LB blew past him.they mention JF’s lack of TDs but fail to remember the WHOLE Off. couldn’t score.mob mentality.
August 13th, 2009 at 12:50 am
priest, I made a prediction earlier, and I’ll eat my words if I’m wrong. We’re going to lose to SD in week one, and we’re going to run the ball less than 20 times. Watch.
August 13th, 2009 at 12:50 am
yeah right!!
anyone that would defend Kiffin at this point is CLUELESSsssssssssssss!!!
anyone that would take Kiffin over Cable is clueless, and I’ll bet MR would do that in a heartbeat right MR?
August 13th, 2009 at 12:54 am
MR-he may have started out that way,trying to turn the team around,but in the end i believe he didn’t care whether we won or not.just my opinion,not fact.
August 13th, 2009 at 12:56 am
Why is Cable better than Kiffin, priest? Based on what?
August 13th, 2009 at 12:57 am
Because we couldn’t score MR. The average coach when he falls behind will abandon the run the Raiders included. No big deal even Belichik does it.
But I watched Marcus Allen run more than 20 a game for over 8 seasons. Before that Van Eeghan and on and on. Your problem MR is that you don’t know squat about the Raiders or Al Davis or Raider fans……….period
August 13th, 2009 at 12:58 am
If I had it my way we’d have gruden back as our coach again right now.lol Could you imagine what chucky would be able to do with this much talent in the backfield with jarockects arm??? Forget the cable guy, who needs cable when you have chucky classics at home.haha
August 13th, 2009 at 12:59 am
preist, if we “emphasize” the run, as you put it, we try to win with it, right? If time permits, we run the ball. We’ve been abandoning the run by half time for the past 6 years. The idea of us “emphasizing the run”, sans maybe Kiffin’s short stint, is a joke.
August 13th, 2009 at 12:59 am
oh we are gonna run the ball folks. as a matter of fact, we are running the ball consistently and well since Cable took over the OL duties no?… just ask Shanahan about it.
August 13th, 2009 at 1:00 am
priest, nice, Allen and Van Eghan. You have to go back 30 years to point out a time when the Raiders really did emphasize the run. Let me know when you’re ready to discuss the Raiders of this decade, again.
August 13th, 2009 at 1:00 am
can’tstandthehaters, I hope we do run. I doubt we will. You guys know my prediction.
August 13th, 2009 at 1:01 am
See what I mean? anyone that needs to ask that question should quit watching football………….period hahahhah!!!
August 13th, 2009 at 1:01 am
Honestly lane kiffin had no balls thats why he’s a worst coach than cable. He was too conservative. All we did was run run run. He never gave jamarcus a chance to develop. He was to scared to let him loose and throw the ball thats why al got rid of him. And I feel al, why am I paying a guy 60 million to pass just for you to have him hand the ball off 100 times a game.We were one dimensional with lame and when he did try to pass the pkays were so corny its ridiculous.
August 13th, 2009 at 1:02 am
Gruden is our most successful coach since Tom Flores. He was available this off season and Al didn’t even bother, opting for an interim who came second to Lane Kiffin in 2007. I don’t know what Al Davis’s priorities are anymore, but winning is not tops on the list. That’s for sure.
August 13th, 2009 at 1:03 am
Wow. looks like Brien the G has been in here with an M60 machine gun, mowing everyone down. Good Job Bri. Put that weapon down for a second would ya??
August 13th, 2009 at 1:03 am
Dman, what’s wrong with run, run, running? According to preist, the Raiders have always emphasized the run.
August 13th, 2009 at 1:05 am
Dmac: Grudog doesnt want to work with a young QB man. he would do a JoshMcDaniels and trade all of our QBs for Jon Kitna in a heart beat lol. plus he is db towards the players and a liar, in the players words.
nobody wants this guy on their team as of right now, not even a college team. those player-comments destroyed him.
August 13th, 2009 at 1:05 am
He doesn’t know football guy’s, he’s just here to hate………………..period
August 13th, 2009 at 1:06 am
DMac, JaMarcus held out into the regular season in Kiffin’s first year. You name one coach in this league that would put a holdout, who carried negotiations into the season, in the starting lineup. In ‘08 Kiffin knew he was gone. Al and Kiffin’s business relationship was beyond repair after their fight over firing Rob Ryan.
August 13th, 2009 at 1:07 am
Trmr the raiders really havent had the weapons to run like that since 30 yrs ago truly.lol Bo was around the same time as allen but got hurt, Kaufman turned preacher, garner and wheatly played in an era where our pass game was phenominal, lamont was a bust, and now we finally have the tools to get it done. So I could see us running the ball more this time around, trust me al knows what our strengths are, and I believe he’ll let cable make the calls necessary to help is win.
August 13th, 2009 at 1:07 am
What don’t I know about football, priest? I just asked you to give specific examples as to how Cable is better than Kiffin. I’m still waiting. Is the delay due to the fact that you can’t think of one?
August 13th, 2009 at 1:09 am
Dmac, priest was the one who said that we’ve always emphasized the run. Now you’re saying that we haven’t been equipped to run the ball. Tell him! Since he knows so much more about football than me.
August 13th, 2009 at 1:12 am
Dmac, you’re not going to want to hear this, but I really don’t see where we’re “equipped” now to be a running team, either. I don’t think we really have a pro bowl running back on our roster. I think you guys overrate Dmac and Bush, and Fargas, while being a workhorse, is not great, either.
August 13th, 2009 at 1:12 am
Richochet Says:
August 12th, 2009 at 9:37 pm
Mistabrown Says:
August 12th, 2009 at 4:56 pm
Oakglen, you seem to have progressed from just a knuckle headed moronic koolaid drinking troll to a sociopathic loon.
What happened in your life?
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Interesting anaylsis.
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Mixing your fate with missed-a-brain???? Bad bad choice.
August 13th, 2009 at 1:14 am
# The Real MaddenRaider Says:
August 13th, 2009 at 1:07 am
What don’t I know about football, priest? I just asked you to give specific examples as to how Cable is better than Kiffin. I’m still waiting. Is the delay due to the fact that you can’t think of one?
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Here, let me answer that cause I know priest would want me to. Kiffin was 3-13 in his last 16 games. Cable was 3-3 in his last six. What the fook do you think of that you dummass??
August 13th, 2009 at 1:15 am
as much as many disagree with it,one of the main reasons Cable is better than Lance is he will work with the GM who hired him. Marty was fired in SD because he wouldn’t work with his boss,the GM,just like Lance was.
August 13th, 2009 at 1:17 am
MR, I am waiting for your answer. One had a .188 winning percentage in his last 16 games, one had a .500 percentage in his last 6. One won as many games in 16 as won one in 6. Anything else son??
August 13th, 2009 at 1:18 am
Post #292, if that doesn’t tell ya’ everything you want to know, nothing will.
MR is clueless……period
August 13th, 2009 at 1:20 am
Oh right, Cable did better under arguably waaaay more adverse conditions. Had to add that. But then again, you got Gruden’s dik up yours ass, along with Garcia’s and NEITHER OF THEM, nOR ANYONE ELSE YOU LIKE, will be in the NFL in about three weeks. funny thing is everyone you don’t like, WILL be in the league. What does that tell ya????
August 13th, 2009 at 1:20 am
I believe all three running backs bring something different to the table.They complement on one another. They’re the best athletes we have on the team so they have to be emphasized. It all depends on the coaching man. Theres so much they can do based off the running game. You got the big bruiser, the speed back, and and work horse. They’d never get tired. Hell we could run all game if we wanted to,lol jp but The fact that neither has to be a lead back is what makes it easy to emphasized the run.
August 13th, 2009 at 1:21 am
So now I have about 5 issues to answer MR?? I am here waiting.
August 13th, 2009 at 1:24 am
Because we sure as hell can’t depend on our receivers to get us through, so all we have is the run game honestly and the coaches know that. I believe these backs are more than capable of pulling it off. We were ranked #6 in rushing with fargas, jordan, and rhodes. If they can rank almost top five I don’t see why fagas, mcfadden, and bush can’t. I know we don agree on alot trmr… But I believe we both can agree that Bush and mcfadden are better than jordan, and rhodes, by leaps and bounds.lol
August 13th, 2009 at 1:25 am
maddenloser, get out the fast lane azz hole.
August 13th, 2009 at 1:30 am
MR, can’t help it Oak especially when the short bus gets so crowded it affects your concentration.
August 13th, 2009 at 1:33 am
Lane kiffin brought his firing on hiself so don’t take up for that lil snake. He is a devil, master of deception. He played al, he played the fans, he played the media, and now he’s playing mind games with the college heads over there. Neither of us on this blog can go to our job, show up our bosses and expect no consequence. The only theing he brought to this team was a decent run game and coach cable deserves the credit for that because his zone blocking scheme is more so the reason for the run games success anyway. F lane he’s a Bum!! B-U-M… BUM!!!
August 13th, 2009 at 1:34 am
Dmac, I think i9t’s very safe to say given enough touches that DMC and Bush would threaten the probowl. Hell by the way things are looking who could gaurantee that Fargas wouldn’t. He must be looking very good in camp. So we’ll see in less than 24 hrs.
August 13th, 2009 at 1:35 am
lol do not mix an MR with any doses of a Priesttj and/or Oakglenn with any kind of MrBrownys with your bullet-p-vests out of reach lol
Dmac: ive read an interview where i believe Fargas says he thinks all three of them can get past the 1000. now that should tell us a lot about the mindset.
with all those teams around us changing to a 3-4, which is not an ideal formation against the run, they could come close if you remember that Fargas almost did it in 8 games two years ago.
August 13th, 2009 at 1:36 am
Adios! guy’s………..MR is priceless
August 13th, 2009 at 1:40 am
Yess, and I cant stand haters eithers my fellow bretheren. Man can you imagine the raiders using th full house formation with thos three??? Plus when we line up in the regular eye how ugly its gonna get with lo neal leading the way??? OOo man I can’t wait… It feels like tommorows christmas for me waitin for this raider game.lol
August 13th, 2009 at 1:44 am
Oh and the thought of having bush in the backfield with mcfadden lined up out wide should throw defenses off guard. The play action setting up big plays for schilens higgins walker and dhb??? Man Im tellin you… I am ready for some football.
August 13th, 2009 at 2:00 am
hmhmm and now factor in time and quarters, where you say open up and pound a light defense with MBUsh and Fargas and hold back to unleash Dmac in the second or in situations after a long drive facing a tired defense, or start of another game vs say a bigger but slower defense with heavy doses of DMac and Fargas only to bring MBush and demolish them, Tampa-stayle, plus the possible dangers facing the defenses in the hopüefully improved passing game???? they could get 800 each, easy.
August 13th, 2009 at 2:10 am
I was listening to knbr.com and I must say these radio stations are son 2faced kiss ass. I swear when ever raider players are on there they ride the dick. Then today they had tim kawakami the ultimate raider hater on there they went all negative talking bad about jamarcus and the defense??? Im like now just to days ago you guys were talking with the players about how theres light at the end of the tunnel, but kawakami comes in and your talking about expect to see the same ole raiders??? Kiss ass I swear. Man I hope my boys come through and prove the haters wrong so I can talk s**t to haters till my lips get numb.lol
August 13th, 2009 at 2:11 am
Typo these raido stations are “some” 2 faced kiss ass.
August 13th, 2009 at 2:13 am
I mean if you’re going to hate atleast be consistant. Don’t flip flop.
August 13th, 2009 at 3:13 am
I love when people defend fargas it’s never he is a good runner he is a great at catching the ball he is good at making guys misses and he can really score oh wait he is terrible at all these things. Im not saying he is what is all wrong with the Raiders but come on the other teams D just laugh when ever he is in the backfield , well here goes fargas for 2.5 He dosen’t complain how many mediocre players complain he is just happy to have a job. Hands down worst starting rb in NFL name another.
August 13th, 2009 at 3:46 am
MR I would say that the mere fact that there is no drama and few distractions right now confirms that Cable is better than Kiffin.
We are 100% focused on football, which is much better than worrying if you coach is a lame duck who is about to bail out to a college or get canned.
We have a system and we’re working it. This is an improvement. The guys rallied around Cable last year and got some self respect and confidence.
We all know we have the talent, albeit still some holes on the O and D line.
Football is about 3 things:
1) strategy (scheme)
2) skilled players
3) motivated players who work hard and buy into the schemes.
I’d say that we are on track. Now let’s see if the schemes work. It looks like our big weakness last year was:
1) a young QB with a lack of protection
2) A swiss cheese D
Let’s see if Jamarcus improves and let’s see if the Marshall plan works on D.
August 13th, 2009 at 3:50 am
Actually the biggest thing we need is for JaMarcus to pan out and play well.
If he doesn’t, is that Al’s fault?
I am actually pleased with Al during this offseason. Good draft, dumping Burgess and getting something in return, signing Frye and Garcia were good moves (one of them will end up being an ok backup and improvement), not drafting Crabtree was a good move too.
August 13th, 2009 at 4:10 am
Good Morning NoMoreFargas,Copenhagen Fan,NATION!!!
Man this sucks about Shields,I mean Mitchell.Wanted 2C him do a Tatum on ANY cowgirl.It looks like the dream of Cerberus will B a reality this year!!! Top 5 rushing offence is very attainable,and with a top 5 rushing our WR’s should BLOW IT UP WHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
If Cerberus and the O-line can stay healthy look-out
August 13th, 2009 at 4:14 am
Good Morning Nation…
someone call the roll…
August 13th, 2009 at 4:16 am
Floria has the Lions as the pre-season no. 32nd ranked team…
and i know that everyone in here except Maddenraider agrees…
August 13th, 2009 at 4:29 am
opposing D’s didnt fear our passing game the last couple of years.Now it appears we have one.So NMF lets give Fargas his due and see what he does this year wich will prolly be his last anyway.If the WHOLE OFFENCE cant score its not 1 mans fault,imo
August 13th, 2009 at 4:37 am
priesttj Says:
August 13th, 2009 at 12:24 am
Dmac20, as you and Jhill said earlier, if DMC and Bush were what everyone says they are why are the coaches keeping Fargas in the mix?
Answer: Fargas is forcing them to………period
August 13th, 2009 at 4:43 am
jhill Says:
August 12th, 2009 at 10:56 am
This Fargas passion is just hilarious!
The guy is solid, if not spectacular. If Bush can’t beat him out, I just don’t get why it’s Fargas or Cable’s fault.
1 good game by Bush and you guys want to give him a scholarship instead of him earning it? It won’t even be an issue if Bush is as good as we think he is. The fact that you think Cable looks at the next Jim Brown and says “ehhh, I think we’re going to keep him on the bench” is pure comedy.
August 13th, 2009 at 4:52 am
Greetings Nation!
Just catching up …
Wow! Not good at all when Jerry starts mentioning Mike Mitchell in the same breath with Arman Shields. This is one of the very things I was afraid of when we drafted him, knowing that he was both low on the boards and re-habbing a hammy.
August 13th, 2009 at 5:00 am
Yea. And fargas is not the worst starting rb in the leauge. I’d take him over steve slaton, ryan grant, kevin smith, laurence maroney, hightower, pierre thomas, any of the broncos backs… And to disagree with nomorefargas post earlier, i do believe fargas is a good runner. I believe he runs hard and fearless. He isn’t scared to go head up. And thats my boy but ive seen dmac go down after the 1st hit also and leave yards on the field by not making ppl miss.
August 13th, 2009 at 5:04 am
I hate to compare any of our backs to former Chiefs players, but it was very interesting when Priest Holmes went from Baltimore to KC. Some of the blocking schemes did change, but he seemed to run much harder – with more purpose. Who knows – could we be seeing a possible Fargas metamorphosis? Tune in tonight and see chapter one (okay, the introduction section, NOT chapter one!)
August 13th, 2009 at 5:08 am
with the addition of Satele our line is improved,and it looks like we got some depth 2,imo.I dont think Bush is a short yardage back-Dmac is,at the goal-line anyway.Their all short-yardage backs but only Dmac can “fly” like Marcus did
August 13th, 2009 at 5:09 am
I dont like to compare our backs though because theyre all good and have something to offer. Theyre all raiderz so I dont see why were always arguing over whos better whos not and who deserves this or who deserves that. I support em all as long as they wear that silver n black. I just dont see why others cant suck it up and get behind the team and not just 1 player. Because if i recall fargas has never cost us a game…
August 13th, 2009 at 5:11 am
MAN-O-MAN The Nation is in love with the running-back position,as should B cause we always have had very good ones.
Cerberus lives this year!!!
August 13th, 2009 at 5:16 am
yea watching dmac run is entertaining. He just flys. Its like he hit a homerun almost every time he touchd the ball at arkansas. He should of won the heisman 2wice… But unfortunately theres a such thing as haters.
August 13th, 2009 at 5:25 am
I don’t think people hated on DMac in college so much. It’s just that the sports writers cream themselves whenever they talk about Tebow and/or any team coached by Pete Carroll!
August 13th, 2009 at 5:26 am
The new attitude this year is the OLD attitude of da OAKLAND RAIDERS.Cable reminds me a lot of Boom-Madden.His basic fundamentals and no-nonsence approach is invigorating.True we are young and there is still a ways 2 go.As a matter-of-fact,I dont beleive I have ever seen a younger Raider team.Oh-yeah,this is the turn around year we have been DYING 4
August 13th, 2009 at 5:27 am
to bad about mitchell i like the kid even though we should have taken brace but enough talk for today its time for some raider football lets see were we at
August 13th, 2009 at 5:32 am
just sharing…
Florida Pete Says:
August 12th, 2009 at 7:30 pm
they need to rest Mitchell… for a hamstring to be going on … on and off… for this long means it needs serious rest…
the choice is rest Mitchell for at least four weeks with no lower body work at all… which means he won’t be ready till game 3 or 4…
or play him and risk losing him for the season…
August 13th, 2009 at 5:33 am
4eva:
You’re right (I hope!)
The OLD days of football are gone, because now it’s a big business as well as a sport. Players like Randy Moss should have been proud of the mystique of wearing a Raiders uniform, but he was never about contributing as a team player. D’Angelo Hall admitted in an interview yesterday that when he signed his big contract with Oakland, he became bored and lost focus. Then, Derrick Burgess felt like the team wronged him, despite the fact that he was often injured and his production had gone down steadily.
I think Cable has some guys now that WANT to be here and who are HUNGRY to produce … seems like a very nice change of pace for us!
August 13th, 2009 at 5:35 am
# Florida Pete Says:
August 13th, 2009 at 5:32 am
just sharing…
Florida Pete Says:
August 12th, 2009 at 7:30 pm
they need to rest Mitchell… for a hamstring to be going on … on and off… for this long means it needs serious rest…
the choice is rest Mitchell for at least four weeks with no lower body work at all… which means he won’t be ready till game 3 or 4…
or play him and risk losing him for the season…
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Rest or no rest, I really don’t think Mitchell is going to make much (if any) contribution this year. You may call me a pessimist, but this was a “reach” from the very beginning.
August 13th, 2009 at 5:35 am
I concur tbone =)
August 13th, 2009 at 5:38 am
Pete,it’s eerily familiar 2 Dmac last year.Only this time lame kitten isnt here 2 ruin Mitchells career like lame tried 2 do 2 Dmac’s career
August 13th, 2009 at 5:43 am
These rookies better start playing, or we need to do something about our front office and the way they draft. All these guys keep getting hurt. This is why we needed to address the lines in the draft. I think Mitchell has the potential to be a special player, but if he is always hamstrung, what is the point of drafting these players. Can we ever have a draft where are rookies are ready to play?
Common Raiders get it together!!!
August 13th, 2009 at 5:48 am
Lets sit Mitchell as long as we have 2.And I cant wait 2C DHB line up against the lil-punk b!tch Angela Hall =)
August 13th, 2009 at 5:50 am
_____# chucka1122 Says:
August 13th, 2009 at 5:43 am
These rookies better start playing, or we need to do something about our front office and the way they draft. All these guys keep getting hurt. This is why we needed to address the lines in the draft. I think Mitchell has the potential to be a special player, but if he is always hamstrung, what is the point of drafting these players. Can we ever have a draft where are rookies are ready to play?
Common Raiders get it together!!!
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When it comes to the draft, Al is always looking for special things. This year, no surprise, he was looking for a speed merchant and a Jack Tatum-like hitter on defense. He probably figured that bringing in Khalif was an upgrade over what we had, and Henderson has been a welcome addition. Rumor has it that he really liked the prospects of bringing in a big kid with a nasty attitude to put along the O-line and that if Andre Smith had fallen to us, we would’ve taken him (considering his holdout, I don’t know how THAT would’ve worked!) Anyway, most of the picks look pretty good – DHB is progressing; Shaughnessy is working well, I love Louis Murphy, and Slade Norris is doing well, too. We’ll see what the priorities are for next year … can you say O-line and D-line?
August 13th, 2009 at 5:56 am
# 4evaRaider Says:
August 13th, 2009 at 5:48 am
Lets sit Mitchell as long as we have 2.And I cant wait 2C DHB line up against the lil-punk b!tch Angela Hall =)
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It’s funny, if you watch the recent training camp interview with D’Crapelo Hall, he talks about how “fortunate he is to be playing football”. Yeah, fortunate that Dan Snyder picked up another worthless player and paid him $10,000 million to play for a team that always has high expectations – until the preseason is over! I hope DHB torches him for 4 long touchdown catches when they meet, and then we’ll see D’Crapelo do another meltdown and blame the touchdowns on “faulty zone coverage”!
August 13th, 2009 at 5:56 am
Good Morning Nation!!!
Tonight’s the Night!!! …and no, I am not quoting Rod Stewart! Haha!
August 13th, 2009 at 5:56 am
hey… believe me… i would not have drafted Mitchell…
you all have seen who i would have taken…
Brace is apparently tearing it up at the Patriots camp…
and it was his slot we traded for Mitchell…
i’m not reading much about Brinkley at the Vikings camp… but what little i did read says he’s kicking a little ass himself… they have him #3 on the depth chart at MLB…
as for our Mitchell… he is going to turn into an absolutely wasted pick if we don’t take care of him and his hammy… the less you rest, the more likely it will come back and get worse…
August 13th, 2009 at 5:58 am
Yep Slade(love that name)Norris had 19.5 sacks as a junior&senoir.6-3,245 and this kid could grow.Almost MLB size,imo
August 13th, 2009 at 5:59 am
Hmmmmm I see a mike bush for mike mitchell….this kid hopefully will net us the return for his second round status but it sounds like its IR for this young stud very sad……
BUT GOOD MORNING NATION!!!!!1
Today is the day!!!!!!!!!!!
we have been waiting all off season to see what we have!!! I like the sound of it too playing all 3 backs to find a “rotation” or see who wants it more!!!
Starting DHB and playing alot!!! I like the sound of that!!!
Players that need to step it up!!
C. Johnson
S. Routt
M. Huff
S. Staele
THE WHOLE O-line (mop handle)
J. Runyan (wait we signed him?!?!)
J. Russell
I cant wait to see the LB competion it sounds like these guys are playing the hearts out for thier jobs and hope it shows on the feild!!!!!!!!
Come Rise With Us.
August 13th, 2009 at 6:01 am
raidertbone Says:
August 13th, 2009 at 5:56 am
# 4evaRaider Says:
August 13th, 2009 at 5:48 am
Lets sit Mitchell as long as we have 2.And I cant wait 2C DHB line up against the lil-punk b!tch Angela Hall =)
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It’s funny, if you watch the recent training camp interview with D’Crapelo Hall, he talks about how “fortunate he is to be playing football”. Yeah, fortunate that Dan Snyder picked up another worthless player and paid him $10,000 million to play for a team that always has high expectations – until the preseason is over! I hope DHB torches him for 4 long touchdown catches when they meet, and then we’ll see D’Crapelo do another meltdown and blame the touchdowns on “faulty zone coverage”!
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i’m thinking it won’t be possible for DHB to score a TD on Hall…
i mean, think about it…
Raiders line up at their own 20…
Hall stakes his claim at the 40…
and absolutely dares DHB to score on him…
but i do think it is possible that DHB catches 14 passes for 15 yards each…
August 13th, 2009 at 6:01 am
Top ‘O the morning 2U Hwnrdr!!!
August 13th, 2009 at 6:02 am
Morning Oaklifer!!! I agree the LB’er situation will B intence 2night WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
August 13th, 2009 at 6:04 am
Hall stakes claim at 40 hahahahahahahahahahah-aaaaaa-hahahahahahahahahahahaha
August 13th, 2009 at 6:05 am
GOOD MORNING SPORT’S FAN’S,SO IT BEGIN’S. WILL THIS BE A TURN AROUND SEASOS 4 THE OAKLAND RAIDER’S, OR YEAR 7 OF A VERY BAD RUN ????
August 13th, 2009 at 6:08 am
D. Hall might go down with a hamstring injury himself. Oh wait, that can’t happen – because “I’m the toughest defensive back in the WWWWWOOOOOOOOORRRLLLLLLDDDDD!”
(ass-wipe!)
August 13th, 2009 at 6:08 am
SEASON THAT IS. ‘MORNING HWNDR,4EVA , OAKLIFER..
August 13th, 2009 at 6:09 am
Good mornin’ Dirt-Lot!
August 13th, 2009 at 6:17 am
Good Morning Dirt Lot, 4eva, Tbone, OAK, Pete…
This should be interesting!!! Funny, today we have an “employee appreciation” bbq for us and the theme is Western Hoe Down! Haha! …and then the Raiders play the Cowboys…grab the horses and the coffee. This should be fun!!!
August 13th, 2009 at 6:21 am
DHB is going to score on a bomb tonight. Put it in the bank.
August 13th, 2009 at 6:23 am
As far as Mitchell is concerned, a hammy should take a month to heal if you stay off it. Rest him.
I blew my hammy last year and it ripped up, and a month later I could run again.
August 13th, 2009 at 6:24 am
# hwnrdr Says:
August 13th, 2009 at 6:17 am
Good Morning Dirt Lot, 4eva, Tbone, OAK, Pete…
This should be interesting!!! Funny, today we have an “employee appreciation” bbq for us and the theme is Western Hoe Down! Haha! …and then the Raiders play the Cowboys…grab the horses and the coffee. This should be fun!!!
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Just remember – T.O. used to be a ‘hoe!
August 13th, 2009 at 6:26 am
WATCH YOUR STEP AROUND THERE 2DAY HWNDR,HOPE THERE ARE FAN’S AT THE GAME 2NIGHT, KNOW A LOT OF SSN-TIX HOLDER’S NOT GOING.
August 13th, 2009 at 6:28 am
T.O. is turning into an NFL ‘hoe…
August 13th, 2009 at 6:28 am
so without Gallery, Barnes & Wilson on the O-Line I suppose we’re looking at …
1st team:
LT Henderson
LG Morris
C Satele
RG Carlisle
RT Green
2nd team:
LT Wand
LG McQuistan
C Wade
RG Johnson
RT Pears
sound right for the game tonight?
August 13th, 2009 at 6:29 am
Unfortunately Dirt Lot, I am one of them not going tonight. Are you heading out there tonight?
August 13th, 2009 at 6:29 am
I suppose the 2nt team OL could also look like this …
LT Pears
LG McQuistan
C Wade
RG Johnson
RT Marten
August 13th, 2009 at 6:33 am
HEY ROCKSTAR,GOOD DAY..
August 13th, 2009 at 6:33 am
Morning Double R,
I really thought McQ would get the start over Morris and I REALLY hope that Satele holds off Wade……..
and who is??? Ricky Williams at strong side linebacker.???
Did I miss something???
August 13th, 2009 at 6:34 am
Mornin’ guys. Here is an exchange from last night that deserves reposting. It’s a BROmance in the making until it takes hilarious turn, between two of your favorite posters .
Enjoy:
Norco Bob Says:
August 12th, 2009 at 4:31 pm
Any one of you “fans” want to pop in on our tailgate,..we will be in D lot,..lots of alcohol,..pot,..some pills I assume of some sort,..lots of bar b q,…and will will be blarin classic metal….all you “fans” are welcome.
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
August 12th, 2009 at 4:32 pm
I’ll be at the tailgate, Norco. I’m tired of being a loser. I’m going to go to your tailgate and be a winner.
Norco Bob Says:
August 12th, 2009 at 4:46 pm
MR we would rather not have you there,..you are really a negative person,..Raider games, tailgating is all about having a good time,..you are generally a miserable person,..and we dont have enough booze and pot and pills to put up with a downer like you,..sorry man.
August 13th, 2009 at 6:34 am
Good Morning Dirt-Lot!!!
Rockstar should be alond any minute also
Coffe is on RRS drink-up =)
August 13th, 2009 at 6:35 am
Oh, WTH, let’s just put Sands, Kelly and Warren on the offensive line and see what happens … oh right, wait – Kelly will keep getting hit with false start penalties until they have to pull him, eventually!
August 13th, 2009 at 6:37 am
NO HWNDR,I WILL NOT BE THERE THIS EVENING.WILL PROBABLY BE AT GAME ON SATURDAY IN 2 WEEK’S.
August 13th, 2009 at 6:37 am
http://www.zimbio.com/pictures/Zy9AvESBDd9/Oakland+Raiders+v+Miami+Dolphins/uBICFuTjAov/Ricky+Williams
I didnt know he played LB also?!?!?!?
August 13th, 2009 at 6:39 am
# RaiderTW Says:
August 13th, 2009 at 6:34 am
Mornin’ guys. Here is an exchange from last night that deserves reposting. It’s a BROmance in the making until it takes hilarious turn, between two of your favorite posters .
Enjoy:
Norco Bob Says:
August 12th, 2009 at 4:31 pm
Any one of you “fans” want to pop in on our tailgate,..we will be in D lot,..lots of alcohol,..pot,..some pills I assume of some sort,..lots of bar b q,…and will will be blarin classic metal….all you “fans” are welcome.
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
August 12th, 2009 at 4:32 pm
I’ll be at the tailgate, Norco. I’m tired of being a loser. I’m going to go to your tailgate and be a winner.
Norco Bob Says:
August 12th, 2009 at 4:46 pm
MR we would rather not have you there,..you are really a negative person,..Raider games, tailgating is all about having a good time,..you are generally a miserable person,..and we dont have enough booze and pot and pills to put up with a downer like you,..sorry man.
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Hilarious! It sounds like RMR and Richochet may have to hold their own private cock-tail party!
August 13th, 2009 at 6:40 am
I will be at that one, also.
Cannot wait! Its at 1PM, so regular tailgating hours…from 8 to whenever!
August 13th, 2009 at 6:41 am
You know that’s pretty bad when Bob tells anyone that he doesn’t want you there at his tailgate…Wow!
August 13th, 2009 at 6:50 am
Lifer,
I know you wanted to keep this FFL to guys in the blog, but my Pops is looking to join a league. Is it cool if I give him the info?
He is ALSO a true old school upstanding member of the One Nation.
9-7!
Drink it????
August 13th, 2009 at 6:50 am
Norco Bob to Maddenraider:
“and we dont have enough booze and pot and pills to put up with a downer like you,..sorry man.”
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when i read that last night i literally laughed out loud…
way the funniest stuff posted for a long long time…
August 13th, 2009 at 6:51 am
Im goint to check one of bobs parties this year!!! I bet they do it big!!!
August 13th, 2009 at 6:52 am
Getting baked and watching a football games kinda sounds counter productive for the whole getting stoned concept.
August 13th, 2009 at 6:53 am
PROBABLY A SMOKE-SCREEN. THEY R BOTH IN LINE AT THE COLOSIUM RITE NOW,UNDER THE BIG BILLBOARD BY THE ARENA. IN THERE LAWN CHAIR’S DRINKING AND LIVING IT UP…
August 13th, 2009 at 6:54 am
He is ALSO a true old school upstanding member of the One Nation.
9-7!
Drink it????
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Of course bro we have three spots left…..and I think most if not all the AM crew is aready in there…aside the few that cant sorry fellas….But he is more than welcome….we have raiderdre who only post bout once twice a month and we have turktagTeam which I have no Idea who they are prob a troll…LOL but yeah sign him up…..
TWO SPOTS LEFT NATION who wants in?????
August 13th, 2009 at 6:55 am
What do we do if Rankin goes off this preseason?
Cut Fargas?ha ha
August 13th, 2009 at 6:55 am
Florida Pete, I guess I have to rethink my idea that they are the same person, but then again if I were Narc0 & MR I would turn myself down since “we” both couldn’t be in the same place. lol
August 13th, 2009 at 6:55 am
good morning AM crew!
got big shots coming in to work today. not sure how long i’ll be able to chat…
coffee is on me though. 4eva is right
Gabby! make sure it’s hot & fresh girl!
August 13th, 2009 at 6:57 am
What do we do if Rankin goes off this preseason?
Cut Fargas?ha ha
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Fargas & Green are on scholarship, copen. it would take an injury to yank them out of the lineup
August 13th, 2009 at 6:58 am
By the way, as much as many of you guys hate Fargas, he does indeed have a place on this team. The guy is a killer and puts everything into the game. If all our guys were like Fargas we’d be PLAYOFF BOUND for sure.
If Mcfadden and Bush step it up they’ll be in there.
August 13th, 2009 at 6:59 am
Good luck with the big shots Double R…
Any info for me on our new LB???
” Kirk Morrison will start at middle linebacker and Ricky Williams at strong side linebacker.”
I just hope he dsnt “smoke”…
August 13th, 2009 at 6:59 am
RaiderRock. I can actually understand why Fargas is on scholarship. He kicks ass. Of course Bush and McFad are better, but he must be doing something right.
August 13th, 2009 at 7:00 am
and who is??? Ricky Williams at strong side linebacker.???
Did I miss something???
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yeah. I caught that too. Is Jerry Mac a Dolphins fan?
he obviously had Ronnie Brown & Ricky Williams on the mind.
His name is Ricky Brown!
August 13th, 2009 at 7:00 am
opinionz:
i think we have a decent chance of a winning record if:
Fargas is not the featured back this season… or the number two for that matter…
we stick to a run first philosophy…
we find a serviceable defensive tackle released by another club…
we can control the clock with our offense… (thereby keeping our defensive tackles off the field…)
we release or trade Garcia…
Henderson starts at left tackle…
Bush and McFadden are in at the same time on more than 30% of offensive plays…
Jamarcus doesn’t throw more than 22 passes per game…
Gradkowski is released…
Southwick changes his name to Southpaw…
August 13th, 2009 at 7:01 am
gotta go. meeting is NOW!
yikes! wish me luck fellas.
my boss is counting on me to make a big impression
August 13th, 2009 at 7:03 am
Does anyone know if KSFO is broadcasting tonights game? It’s not available here on East Coast for viewing. Thanks in advance……
August 13th, 2009 at 7:04 am
Good luck Brother hit ‘em like BO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
August 13th, 2009 at 7:04 am
Cool Oaklifer, Thanks.
August 13th, 2009 at 7:06 am
haha nobody likes trmr… smh. what a shame. And louis rankin running for big yardage against opposing teams 3rd team scrubs is not enough to oust fargas im sorry… Fargas maybe on scholarship but you cant say he hasnt earned it. Fargas has been our leading rusher the past 2 years… Sam williams has been on the team 4ever and has done nothing, now hes on scholarship im not so sure about huggy jr though.
August 13th, 2009 at 7:06 am
I’m out this morning guys (just as the rest of the regular crew rolls in). It sucks that I have to TVO the game (NFL Network airs it at 2 AM East Coast time). I’ll check back in after I have had a chance to watch the game. I will be keeping my eyes on defensive and offensive line players for BOTH teams, as well as on our runnning backs.
LATER RAIDERS!!!!!!
I wondeer if, from way out here, I can still SMMMMMMMMEEEEEEEEELLLLLLLLL — what you guys are cookin’!
August 13th, 2009 at 7:06 am
RaiderTW Says:
August 13th, 2009 at 6:55 am
Florida Pete, I guess I have to rethink my idea that they are the same person, but then again if I were Narc0 & MR I would turn myself down since “we” both couldn’t be in the same place. lol
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kind of a Clark Kent / Superman thing…
or maybe more like the Green Goblin / Norman Osborne…
August 13th, 2009 at 7:07 am
Why can’t I refresh the page with F5?
August 13th, 2009 at 7:08 am
DMAC20 good post 392
August 13th, 2009 at 7:09 am
TELL THEM U DO NOT HAVE TIME ROCKSTAR, YOUR BLOGGING RITE NOW….
August 13th, 2009 at 7:11 am
Message to:
Dell, 24…Mistabrown…Oakglenn…Priest…M… Raiderdogg…Dakota…Vegas…HayesDaze…Lefty12… BART…SnB…Chris in NY…Florida Pete…MadennRaider…Rockstar…BAG…Norco Bob… KoolKell…Coach on Wheels…Scottish…Bo Schembechler…Copenhaguen…Jedi.
You guys have been here for a while so there’s a certain “familiarity” among us, so…
I wanna start a Fantasy league and would like all of you to join, it’s gonna be on yahoo sports so you have to create an acount there if you don’t have one.
I’m sure I’ve missed a few guys but feel free to let me know if you wanna join, I’ll just ask that you are a known poster in this blog, be at the live draft, play seriously, make your moves and don’t quit even if you suck.
We can work out the details later, after we see who’s in or out, if there’s too many, we can have two separate leagues, we’ll see.
Let me know, I don’t have much time to post or log in anymore so if someone else can help me out to keep track of who’s in, it’ll make it much easier.
Thanks and if you’re not into fantasy, that’s fine too.
August 13th, 2009 at 7:15 am
Dmac20 Says:
August 13th, 2009 at 7:06 am
haha nobody likes trmr… smh. what a shame. And louis rankin running for big yardage against opposing teams 3rd team scrubs is not enough to oust fargas im sorry… Fargas maybe on scholarship but you cant say he hasnt earned it. Fargas has been our leading rusher the past 2 years… Sam williams has been on the team 4ever and has done nothing, now hes on scholarship im not so sure about huggy jr though.
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That is true but he also been hurt after every big game the last two years and the last two years ain’t been pretty. Fargas has a lot of heart but DMAC and Bush brings a dynamic to the game that you have to use man. Both of them can take it to the house and catch out the backfield. We need them to touch the ball more. They can get you 7-15 yards a pop rather than 3-5.
August 13th, 2009 at 7:16 am
I think I forgot the guy who won Mistabrown’s league last year, can’t remmember his name right now, join dude.
Later fellas.
August 13th, 2009 at 7:16 am
Marley sounds cool. I’d like to try my luck.
August 13th, 2009 at 7:18 am
I have to admit that Fargas does have heart and he runs hard but d@mn some of you guys talk about him like he is or was Barry Sanders or Emmitt Smith.
He has heart he runs fast and gets hurt often.
Stop making out this guy to be the answer man!!!
August 13th, 2009 at 7:19 am
Good morning.
On the Fargas issue. I don’t hate Fargas at all. In fact, I wanted the Raiders to roll with Fargas and Bush and draft Sedrick Ellis. But Al Davis didn’t do that. He drafted DMAC because HE DOESN’T BELIEVE in Fargas’ ability to be that premier runningback.
And its the word PREMIER that I think drives some to want to see more Bush & DMAC and less Fargas.
Fargas has too many pedestrian games. Way too many. Sure, Fargas works really hard and that is important but its all about production. When intangables become your #1 attribute…becareful….
Bush and DMAC are not proven commodities yet. But they have flashed “absolute greatness” in the limited time they have seen on the field. A great runningback can put the game on his shoulders and almost win it himself.
I don’t see Fargas in that class. He’s a solid runningback that can give you some carries…but he isn’t going to win a game for you….especially if the passing game is struggling. Too 1 dimensional and not enough versatility
August 13th, 2009 at 7:20 am
Good, first player in, thanks Copenhagen.
Later.
August 13th, 2009 at 7:21 am
Rockstar,
Good luck with your meeting with the HQ guys. Just keep it real and be yourself.
August 13th, 2009 at 7:28 am
kind of a Clark Kent / Superman thing…
or maybe more like the Green Goblin / Norman Osborne…
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Yeah Pete, or maybe like Sybil.
August 13th, 2009 at 7:29 am
Morning Nation,
Bob Marley, am I invited?
August 13th, 2009 at 7:30 am
NATION what is UP?????????????
August 13th, 2009 at 7:31 am
Question, are we still entertaining the idea of bringing brooks in, or was that just a mirage???
August 13th, 2009 at 7:31 am
Bob Marley Says:
August 13th, 2009 at 7:11 am
Message to:
Dell, 24…Mistabrown…Oakglenn…Priest…M… Raiderdogg…Dakota…Vegas…HayesDaze…Lefty12… BART…SnB…Chris in NY…Florida Pete…MadennRaider…Rockstar…BAG…Norco Bob… KoolKell…Coach on Wheels…Scottish…Bo Schembechler…Copenhaguen…Jedi.
You guys have been here for a while so there’s a certain “familiarity” among us, so…
I wanna start a Fantasy league and would like all of you to join, it’s gonna be on yahoo sports so you have to create an acount there if you don’t have one.
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Sir If I may Marley,
We have a league going wiht almost all of those names in it..it to is yahoo free anss very SERIOUS only one member not a regular on here and that is AZraiders pop’s who is a die hard as well So here is to hoping you accept this invite we have two spots left….
OAK
August 13th, 2009 at 7:32 am
Morning Nation!!! T minus 12 hours!!
Marley,
Appreciate the offer man, when is the live draft, or at least usually? Your going to laugh, but I have only done fantasy baseball and that was years ago, never played fantasy football, just bet on the games. I think I’m down though, always up to a challenge. Keep me in the loop, thanks!
August 13th, 2009 at 7:32 am
Most starters, including quarterback JaMarcus Russell, will play one quarter and take the rest of the night off. However, at running back, Cable said he plans to play Justin Fargas, Darren McFadden and Michael Bush, alternating them throughout the first half in a system he may want to use throughout the season.
“I want to start inplementing the lan that we want to use in terms of getting them all involved,” Cable said.
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World’s dumbest coach
August 13th, 2009 at 7:33 am
Thec07 Says:
August 13th, 2009 at 7:31 am
Question, are we still entertaining the idea of bringing brooks in, or was that just a mirage???
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Morning Brother,
I think that was his agent trying to stir up a bunch of phlueeeee so the saints would rush to sign him…Plkus our LB core is CRAZY deep this year we cant carry 9 LB’s…..
August 13th, 2009 at 7:34 am
Oaklifer, What up bretheren…..MIRAGE.
August 13th, 2009 at 7:35 am
exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:
August 13th, 2009 at 7:29 am
Morning Nation,
Bob Marley, am I invited?
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JerryMacskidz (ID# 528978)
we have two spots left…….
August 13th, 2009 at 7:35 am
funny how we are linked to everyone on the waiver wire,
so when is vick coming to town???
August 13th, 2009 at 7:37 am
Speaking of LB’s i wonder is cable going to keep the rotation with morrison, and brown?
August 13th, 2009 at 7:38 am
so when is vick coming to town???
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They are really cracking down on p0t smuggling and dog fighting in the east bay it wiil be awhile…How ever more importantly WHERE THE HELLL is RUNYAN?!?!?!?!?
CABLE get this dude in here for a phiscal!!!! HE will Maul us to a 9-7 record!!!!!!!!!!
August 13th, 2009 at 7:39 am
Speaking of LB’s i wonder is cable going to keep the rotation with morrison, and brown?
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you mean ricky williams…no??? LOL
August 13th, 2009 at 7:41 am
OAKlifer,
How do I get the password?
August 13th, 2009 at 7:42 am
HAS any one heard of or know who TURKsTagTeam is????
Exlara…I thought it was you but its not is it?????
August 13th, 2009 at 7:42 am
Its good to have a mix of youth and age. One would assume that age would bring leadership, and wisdom.
We have a very young team. Without even doing the due dilligence i would say we are one of the youngest teams in the NFL….
John Runyan, or Levi Jones for that matter are still FA’s.
August 13th, 2009 at 7:42 am
OAKlifer,
How do I get the password?
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ONENATION
August 13th, 2009 at 7:43 am
It’s me, the Laker fan. That should prove it!
August 13th, 2009 at 7:44 am
Sounds Like After exlara signs up we have one spot left!!!!
AZ tell pops he better sign up this morning last few spots are going like gabbie’s hot cakes!!!!!!!
August 13th, 2009 at 7:45 am
Hey guys…
Work calls…Hope that everyone has a great day today and that the Raiders actually have a good showing…not necessarily a win, but a good showing from our starters!!!
Talk to you all tomorrow in the AM!
August 13th, 2009 at 7:45 am
LOL the laker fan…….
Im sorry…..not every one is perfect!! LOL
Hopefully you I and Dakota will have some really good Blazer/Laker talk for years to come WE are on the rise in R-town!!!!!!
August 13th, 2009 at 7:47 am
hwnrdr,
peace brother!!!! That is the PLAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Good showing work hard earn you right to our 53!!!!!!!!!!!!
August 13th, 2009 at 7:48 am
WE are on the rise in R-town!!!!!!
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WTF…LOL @ me….
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The r and the p are not even close to each other WOW…..
August 13th, 2009 at 7:49 am
OAK,
I went to yahoo. Custom league, typed in JerryMacskidz (ID# 528978) and ONENATion and it errored saying league not registered. What did I do wrong?
August 13th, 2009 at 7:49 am
Oaklifer,
I’m in there, r u OK with me inviting myself?
August 13th, 2009 at 7:51 am
Youell Field Dynasty…….. Must be pops huh?????
exlaraiderseasonticketholder,
ONENATION
all one word all caps!!!
August 13th, 2009 at 7:52 am
vegas raider Says:
August 13th, 2009 at 7:49 am
Oaklifer,
I’m in there, r u OK with me inviting myself?
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By virtue of ur name you have been invited all along brother good to see you…..Youell Field Dynasty
August 13th, 2009 at 7:54 am
Cool, I got to study up, I can’t half-azz anything, lol!!
August 13th, 2009 at 7:54 am
http://football.fantasysports.yahoo.com/
exla, go to this site, click on join a league, it will then ask you to sign into your yahoo account (may have to create one if you don’t already have one), then click on join custom, put in the league ID and the password (must use all caps on password I think), click save and continue and you are into creating your team….
August 13th, 2009 at 7:56 am
SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
August 13th, 2009 at 7:19 am
Good morning.
On the Fargas issue. I don’t hate Fargas at all. In fact, I wanted the Raiders to roll with Fargas and Bush and draft Sedrick Ellis. But Al Davis didn’t do that. He drafted DMAC because HE DOESN’T BELIEVE in Fargas’ ability to be that premier runningback.
And its the word PREMIER that I think drives some to want to see more Bush & DMAC and less Fargas.
Fargas has too many pedestrian games. Way too many. Sure, Fargas works really hard and that is important but its all about production. When intangables become your #1 attribute…becareful….
Bush and DMAC are not proven commodities yet. But they have flashed “absolute greatness” in the limited time they have seen on the field. A great runningback can put the game on his shoulders and almost win it himself.
I don’t see Fargas in that class. He’s a solid runningback that can give you some carries…but he isn’t going to win a game for you….especially if the passing game is struggling. Too 1 dimensional and not enough versatility
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amen…
August 13th, 2009 at 7:58 am
All right it is me vs. Dell week 1.
August 13th, 2009 at 7:58 am
I’m in but I had to change names as someone already used silver n Black.
August 13th, 2009 at 8:00 am
Thx Dakota
August 13th, 2009 at 8:01 am
I wanted to watch the game tonight but a lack of respect got it scheduled for 2:00 a.m. ET. WTF?
August 13th, 2009 at 8:01 am
exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:
August 13th, 2009 at 7:58 am
I’m in but I had to change names as someone already used silver n Black.
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may i recommend ” paintthatred ”
it works better if you pass gas after saying it…
August 13th, 2009 at 8:03 am
exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:
August 13th, 2009 at 8:01 am
I wanted to watch the game tonight but a lack of respect got it scheduled for 2:00 a.m. ET. WTF?
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i was thinking it wasn’t going to be on at all…
my 5 year old knows how to record it…
i hate asking him to do schitt for me…
August 13th, 2009 at 8:08 am
BRUTAL! The game was supposed to be on at 11 EST and they moved it…garbage
August 13th, 2009 at 8:16 am
Wow the fantasy league sure filled up I see.
August 13th, 2009 at 8:16 am
Fargas had 1 rushing touchdown last year. I posted a couple months ago that that ranks him about 88th in the league.
Just think –if that fake field goal had worked, Jano would have tied our starting running back for rushing touch downs last year.
August 13th, 2009 at 8:21 am
Raider Headbutt Says:
August 13th, 2009 at 8:16 am
Wow the fantasy league sure filled up I see.
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Should be a blast only one unkowin outta 14 aint bad TurksTagTeam…..hmmmmm But it has to be some one in here so its all good!!! MAY the best GM win!!!!
LOL Wonder who is going to take Fargas as thier premeir back?????
August 13th, 2009 at 8:25 am
Who will be the best player on the feild today for the Oakland Raiders…?????
IMO it will be Ricky brown he should see alot of snaps…..
On Offense I’m going with M. Bush……
August 13th, 2009 at 8:27 am
so Cable wanted to try Sebastian Janikowski as a runner on a trick play.
now it looks as if Cable wants to use him as a receiver on trick plays …
please see the photo galleries on the Raiders website. It’s pic #19 on Training Camp Day 10 (08/07/09)
August 13th, 2009 at 8:27 am
for those of you who give a schitt:
Sulak resurfaces in Green Bay
Posted by Mike Florio on August 13, 2009 10:31 AM ET
After the Raiders cut sixth-round pick Stryker Sulak before ever signing him to a contract, a couple of teams kicked his tires, but no one signed him.
And now Sulak has finally resurfaced, as a member of the Green Bay Packers.
The Packers have announced that Sulak, drafted by the Raiders as a defensive end, has joined the team. He will play linebacker in Green Bay’s new 3-4 defense.
To create a spot for Sulak, the Packers placed tight end Tory Humphrey on injured reserve.
August 13th, 2009 at 8:28 am
turkstagteam is Raider O,I believe
August 13th, 2009 at 8:30 am
It doesn’t matter who any1 in there is, you will all be victim to my onslought bahahaha
August 13th, 2009 at 8:30 am
i forgot to say…
Stynker Sulak will be available on or about August 27…
August 13th, 2009 at 8:30 am
just a hunch
August 13th, 2009 at 8:32 am
so let me get this straight…
In FF you,well I dont know what you do
I can hear the exasperation but I’m not the only rookie and I learn quick =)
August 13th, 2009 at 8:33 am
4evaRaider Says:
August 13th, 2009 at 8:28 am
turkstagteam is Raider O,I believe
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I think he is O Raiders ……..
August 13th, 2009 at 8:35 am
meeting is over. everything went well
thanks S&B, Dirt Lot & OAKlifer for the encouragement
Marley: wish I could join your fantasy league bro. both yours & OAK’s actually. I don’t have a computer at home. no need. never bring work home. sick of the comp by the time I clock out each day. got internet access on the cell phone if I need directions or something, but it’s not part of my plan so it gets rather expensive in a hurry if I use it as often as I’d need to keep up with a FF league!
August 13th, 2009 at 8:36 am
Sulak to Green Bay in thier 3-4 defense, huh?
good fit!
I wish him well. He was a beast at Missouri
August 13th, 2009 at 8:38 am
meeting is over. everything went well
thanks S&B, Dirt Lot & OAKlifer for the encouragement
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Double R,
Did you get one for the gipper?????
August 13th, 2009 at 8:39 am
Never played with a live draft so it should be quoting Artie Johnson, “”Very interesting, but…not very funny”
August 13th, 2009 at 8:40 am
I guess the pats werent interested in him as they picked him up after he left oakland. wasted pick….
August 13th, 2009 at 8:40 am
I cant get on the FF site.I put 528978 as ID then ONENATION and it tells me there has been an error Will Robinson =)
August 13th, 2009 at 8:41 am
Live Draft is the only way togo any body can just take the best Available but it takes aREAL GM to form a power house!!!!!!
August 13th, 2009 at 8:41 am
Live draft is bomb. Adrenaline rush cause your on the clock…
August 13th, 2009 at 8:43 am
JerryMacskidz (ID# 528978)…..should work 4eva….
when you sign on to your yahoo account just go to sports and fanyasy it will list your current teams and leagues….
August 13th, 2009 at 8:43 am
See the live draft is my kryptonite this time because I won’t be available, I have faith is my pre draft rankings though.
August 13th, 2009 at 8:44 am
OAKlifer Says:
August 13th, 2009 at 7:51 am
Youell Field Dynasty…….. Must be pops huh?????
……………………………………………
Yup, that would be him….
Should be fun guys
Most productive player tonight?????
Let me serve you up some kool-aid.
DEFENSE:
Michael Huff: Trust me Nation, I’m feelin it! (yikes)
OFFENSE:
Darrius Heyward-Bey: gets a whole QTR, you know Cable is gonna put pressure on him, so he’s gonna get the ball.
Bush is a good bet as he’ll get snaps with first, AND second teams.
9-7!
DRINK IT!
August 13th, 2009 at 8:45 am
Thankx OAK
August 13th, 2009 at 8:46 am
CJ Legend 34 Says:
August 13th, 2009 at 7:18 am
I have to admit that Fargas does have heart and he runs hard but d@mn some of you guys talk about him like he is or was Barry Sanders or Emmitt Smith.
He has heart he runs fast and gets hurt often.
Stop making out this guy to be the answer man!!!
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Naw I don’t beleive people claim that he’s barry sanders or emmit smith its just we don’t believe hes kenyatta walker or deshaun foster either. Dmac is my favorite player and I believe he and bush should get more touches than fargas, But I don’t believe we should cut him and neither do I think he is bad as his bashers on here portray…
August 13th, 2009 at 8:47 am
AZ,
Im glad pops made it the last few spots went like no end!!!! HERES TO A GOOD RAIDER SEASON AND A GOOD FFL SEASON FOR THE NATION…..(gawd knows we deserve it)
August 13th, 2009 at 8:48 am
Enter League ID#, not name
i WOULD TAKE THAT 2 MEAN 528978 but this does not work
August 13th, 2009 at 8:48 am
Best performace from a player fighting for a spot:
Nick Miller: with ST unit.
August 13th, 2009 at 8:50 am
OAKlifer Says:
August 13th, 2009 at 8:47 am
AZ,
Im glad pops made it the last few spots went like no end!!!! HERES TO A GOOD RAIDER SEASON AND A GOOD FFL SEASON FOR THE NATION…..(gawd knows we deserve it)
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You said it!
GOOD LUCK NATION! And keep it fun in here!
August 13th, 2009 at 8:50 am
Did you get one for the gipper?????
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OAKlifer: I dominated it like a meatball sandwich from Subway!
August 13th, 2009 at 8:51 am
Anybody know where you can pick up a feed of the game on the net tonight???????????
August 13th, 2009 at 8:55 am
Az, What up Bro????
You must be drinking the purple kool-aid jim jones severed up….. Huff??????
August 13th, 2009 at 8:55 am
4evaRaider Says:
August 13th, 2009 at 8:40 am
I cant get on the FF site.I put 528978 as ID then ONENATION and it tells me there has been an error Will Robinson =)
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try logging into your yahoo account and then signing into the FFL…once you are in, bookmark the page (though you still have to be logged into yahoo before you click on your bookmark)
August 13th, 2009 at 8:56 am
What? Nobody invited the defending champ?
If I start a nfl.com fantasy league with a live draft, would anyone be interested? I’m thinking of the live draft for Sept. 1 at 7:15pm PT.
August 13th, 2009 at 8:57 am
AZ: Agreed. I expect big plays from Heyward-Bey & Huff tonight. Ricky Brown & Greyson Gunheim will also make an impact
August 13th, 2009 at 8:57 am
If i had time i would do it, i was in 3 last year, very addicting…. Business this year will keep me away. but will still be able to lurk, and chime in on this blog….
August 13th, 2009 at 8:58 am
Thec! What up brother!
Yeah, Imma go with Huff tonight… I know man, you know when you at the poker table, and your floating a straight draw after the flop and you just KNOW your gonna catch it? ….that’s how I feel, so I gotta keep calling LOL.
If you don’t play poker, sorry for the comparrison, but for real, I’m feelin Huff.
We will see my friend.
9-7!
DRINK UP NATION!
August 13th, 2009 at 8:58 am
Dakota Says:
August 13th, 2009 at 8:55 am
4evaRaider Says:
August 13th, 2009 at 8:40 am
I cant get on the FF site.I put 528978 as ID then ONENATION and it tells me there has been an error Will Robinson =)
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try logging into your yahoo account and then signing into the FFL…once you are in, bookmark the page (though you still have to be logged into yahoo before you click on your bookmark)
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Yup Bro once your signed into yahoo you dnt need the league name or ID or PW you just need to go from the home page…click on sports….then on the far right in the header is a red box that says Fantasy hover over that icon and it will show your leauge and your team come on Riffer I know you can do it!!!
August 13th, 2009 at 8:59 am
Al DAVIS HAS COJONES Says:
August 13th, 2009 at 8:51 am
Anybody know where you can pick up a feed of the game on the net tonight???????????
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Try (atdhe.net) Im not 100% sure it will have it but it should. I know I got to watch the summer league and brock lesnar fight on there so im guessing it would work.
August 13th, 2009 at 8:59 am
Being that the Raiders philosophy of the UT/NT having the same role is of little significance. The REAL problem is the personnel. The Giants, also, do not have a true NT with 4D Linemen who can drop back. Problem is the Raiders don’t have the talent on the D Line to run this scheme. Why Al hasn’t addressed it? I have no idea.
August 13th, 2009 at 9:01 am
Yep its on there just checked.(:
August 13th, 2009 at 9:01 am
Ryan Says:
August 13th, 2009 at 8:56 am
What? Nobody invited the defending champ?
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Where have you been brother if yuo were any where near the blog in the last wo weeks you would have been in like flynn….EVERY member of this NATION was invited….
August 13th, 2009 at 9:03 am
Al DAVIS HAS COJONES Says:
August 13th, 2009 at 8:51 am
Anybody know where you can pick up a feed of the game on the net tonight???????????
………………………………………………
I’m just gonna turn off my TV, my cell phone, NO MADDEN, and take a nap after work so I can just pretend the 11:00 showing in AZ on NFLN is live LOL.
August 13th, 2009 at 9:05 am
I’ve been on vacation. Golfing in MT. Dang! I don’t have a yahoo account anyway.
Anyone still want to do another league with nfl.com?
I’ve setup a Live Draft for 7pm PT for 9/1/09.
League Name: JerrysKids
password: ibabuzz
August 13th, 2009 at 9:06 am
Thankx Dakota…Now it says this league is full.As everyone knows I’m not savvy but I could swear that I have a team called Rowdy Riffers.Could someone please see if I even belong 2 a league?!?!?!?!
August 13th, 2009 at 9:07 am
Injured cornerbacks Terence Newman (groin), Mike Jenkins (ankle) and rookie Michael Hawkins (knee) are being held out. Other guys being rested include fullback Deon Anderson (knee), running back Alonzo Coleman (knee) and rookie linebacker Stephen Hodge (knee).
RBs Felix Jones (toe) and Tashard Choice (shoulder) have been held out of practice this week.
August 13th, 2009 at 9:09 am
Anybody that understands the 4/3 defense knows that it doesn’t call for a true NT, a NT is mostly employed in a 3/4 defense. It also depends on what the DC is asking the the 2 DT’s to do.
If you look at the teams the employ the cover2 scheme there is no true NT. If you look at Brace the guy everyone in here pints out the Raiders should’ve taken HE does not play like a true NG/NT.
Figure it out will ya’ We don’t ask Warren to be a NT because we don’t run a 3/4 defense…………GET IT!
August 13th, 2009 at 9:09 am
WAH
August 13th, 2009 at 9:10 am
If you guys don’t have a ticket and want to see the game live go to ATDHE.net and you should see the game cowboys vs. raiders, click on it at the start of the game and it will come on live… You guys can thank me later.lol jp
August 13th, 2009 at 9:14 am
Darren mcfadden interview on knbr.com go to podcast and check it out.
August 13th, 2009 at 9:15 am
4evaRaider Says:
August 13th, 2009 at 9:09 am
ROWDY RIFFERS IN THA HOUSE due your in =there lets start at square one…..
August 13th, 2009 at 9:16 am
OK THANK-YOU ALL.Man I dont even know if I can make-it 2 a game on time =).Oh great now it says Dakota is my 1st opponet.
August 13th, 2009 at 9:17 am
THREE RING CIRCUS Says:
August 12th, 2009 at 9:47 pm
THREE RING CIRCUS Says:
August 12th, 2009 at 9:25 pm
too many questions on our team to win
RIGHT TACKLE POSTION IS HORRIBLE= MORE SACKS FOR THE DISCHARGERS
CENTER POSTITION IS SHAKY AT BEST NO CLEAR CUT ANSWER THERE EVER SINCE ROBBINS
LINE BACKERS PLAYING MUSICAL CHAIRS
DEFENSIVE LINE MEN WHO CANT STOP THE RUN= OHH BY THE WAY LADANIAN TOMLINSONS COMING TO TOWN ALONG WITH SPROLES. ANOTHER 150 YARD RUSHING GAME FOR LT INCLUDING TWO TDS TO BOOT
NO PROVEN TALENT AT THE SAFETY POSTION!!!
FARGAS IS STARTING
WIDE RECEIVERS HAVE REALLY DONE NOTHING IN THIS LEAGUE EXCEPT FOR WALKER AND HES NOT MAKING ANY IMPACT SOON
A QUARTERBACK THAT SEEMS TO THROW ARRANT PASSES UNLESS ITS THE FASTBALL.
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ON THE OTHER HAND THE ONLY BRIGHT SPOTS I SEE IS
THE LEFT SIDE OF THE OLINE IS GOOD ENOUGH NOT GREAT
TWO POTENTIALLY GREAT RUNNING BACKS INCLUDING ONE DECENT BACK IN FARGAS.
YOUNG FAST WR CORPS
CORNER BACKS WHO CAN PLAY MAN D
AND THE WEAKSIDE LINEBACKER POSITION
THE FULL BACK POSITION
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TOO MANY QUESTIONMARKS AT CRITICAL POSTIONS TO WIN GAMES IN THE NFL PERIOD
I PREDICT
7-9 AND THATS PUSHING IT.
I AM A RAIDER FAN BUT THIS IS MY HONEST TO GOD ASSESMENT FOR THE BEGINING OF THIS SEASON
GO RAIDAS
August 13th, 2009 at 9:19 am
sucks that some are so addicted to the computer they now will watch a football game on it…sad…perfect for MR though….anyway we will be in D lot if you guys want to pop on by for some booze or pot or bar b q.
August 13th, 2009 at 9:20 am
thankx OAK =)
August 13th, 2009 at 9:21 am
NFL GAME PASS BABY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
CATCH ALL 500 NFL GAMES IN HD.
ONLY AVAILABLE OVER SEAS
MAN IF I WAS STATIONED IN THE BAY ID BE A SEASON TICKET HOLDER FO SHO!!!!
August 13th, 2009 at 9:21 am
exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:
August 13th, 2009 at 8:39 am
Never played with a live draft so it should be quoting Artie Johnson, “”Very interesting, but…not very funny”
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i think it might be…
velly intellestink… but schtupid !!!
August 13th, 2009 at 9:21 am
4eva,
Logg out of yahoo completely….
then
Go back into yahoo….sign in on the main page…..
Then at the very top of the page after you sign in you see the box
Answers
Autos
Finance
Games
Groups
HotJobs
Maps
Mobile
Movies | TV
Music
OMG
Personals
Real Estate
Shine
Shopping
Sports
Travel
Yellow Pages
Y! International
Click on the sports one…..
Then all the way to the right in the header box the very last one is RED and says Fantasy just hover you mmouse over that red box in a sec you will see below your leauge name Jerrymacskidz and you r team name Rowdy Riffers…. from there you click on either I click on the leauge that brings me to the main leauge home……
Let me know bro…
August 13th, 2009 at 9:22 am
Norco Bob Says:
August 13th, 2009 at 9:19 am
sucks that some are so addicted to the computer they now will watch a football game on it…sad…perfect for MR though….anyway we will be in D lot if you guys want to pop on by for some booze or pot or bar b q.
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NFL GAME PASS BABY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
CATCH ALL 500 NFL GAMES IN HD.
ONLY AVAILABLE OVER SEAS
MAN IF I WAS STATIONED IN THE BAY ID BE A SEASON TICKET HOLDER FO SHO!!!!
August 13th, 2009 at 9:23 am
Yep, Preisttj is correct, we play with two UTs. (that’s part of the reason why we can’t stop the run)
August 13th, 2009 at 9:23 am
NO BLACK OUTS FOR ME. I WILL WATCH EVERY GAME IN HD ABD I COULD PLUG THE VAIO COMPUTER TO MY FLAT PANEL AND WATCH THE GAMES.
ALL THE RAIDERS GAMES.
August 13th, 2009 at 9:24 am
Good morning Gents, Nation.
Now,
Aaahhhhhh!!!!!!
I’m O Raiders, I will destroy you all!!!!
Who is this AZR8ER??? I will destroy you in Week 1.
August 13th, 2009 at 9:24 am
4eva ima send you an email with the email address you used to sign up in the leauge let me know if you get it…..
Goood work by the way!!!!!
August 13th, 2009 at 9:25 am
I never played FF before!
lol
August 13th, 2009 at 9:26 am
too many questions on our team to win
RIGHT TACKLE POSTION IS HORRIBLE= MORE SACKS FOR THE DISCHARGERS
CENTER POSTITION IS SHAKY AT BEST NO CLEAR CUT ANSWER THERE EVER SINCE ROBBINS
LINE BACKERS PLAYING MUSICAL CHAIRS
DEFENSIVE LINE MEN WHO CANT STOP THE RUN= OHH BY THE WAY LADANIAN TOMLINSONS COMING TO TOWN ALONG WITH SPROLES. ANOTHER 150 YARD RUSHING GAME FOR LT INCLUDING TWO TDS TO BOOT
NO PROVEN TALENT AT THE SAFETY POSTION!!!
FARGAS IS STARTING
WIDE RECEIVERS HAVE REALLY DONE NOTHING IN THIS LEAGUE EXCEPT FOR WALKER AND HES NOT MAKING ANY IMPACT SOON
A QUARTERBACK THAT SEEMS TO THROW ARRANT PASSES UNLESS ITS THE FASTBALL.
=====================================
ON THE OTHER HAND THE ONLY BRIGHT SPOTS I SEE IS
THE LEFT SIDE OF THE OLINE IS GOOD ENOUGH NOT GREAT
TWO POTENTIALLY GREAT RUNNING BACKS INCLUDING ONE DECENT BACK IN FARGAS.
YOUNG FAST WR CORPS
CORNER BACKS WHO CAN PLAY MAN D
AND THE WEAKSIDE LINEBACKER POSITION
THE FULL BACK POSITION
=======================================
TOO MANY QUESTIONMARKS AT CRITICAL POSTIONS TO WIN GAMES IN THE NFL PERIOD
I PREDICT
7-9 AND THATS PUSHING IT.
I AM A RAIDER FAN BUT THIS IS MY HONEST TO GOD ASSESMENT FOR THE BEGINING OF THIS SEASON
GO RAIDAS
August 13th, 2009 at 9:27 am
FANTASY FOOTBALL SUCKS YOU GUYS NEED TO GET MADDEN 10.
NOW THATS FANTASY FOOTBALL
August 13th, 2009 at 9:28 am
circus,..my prediction for record in 2009 in 6-10,…next year maybe 9-7…with no way to stop the run, you cant win,…6-10 this year.
August 13th, 2009 at 9:30 am
Raider O Says:
August 13th, 2009 at 9:24 am
Good morning Gents, Nation.
Now,
Aaahhhhhh!!!!!!
I’m O Raiders, I will destroy you all!!!!
Who is this AZR8ER??? I will destroy you in Week 1.
………………………………………………
You know who it is “O” LOL! Arman Sheilds is gonna light it up on you in the first week! He’s 1st on my board!
AZR8ER PLAYOFFBOUND!
DRINK IT!
August 13th, 2009 at 9:30 am
I think those who will blitz are gonna get burned early and often,even if all DHB is 40 yard sprintz all game long.Just his presence is a weapon.
Yep i was a little disapointed at 1st but the more I see and the more I hear…
And remember haters it took Branch 3 years and HE should be in the hall B4 swann or stallworth,imo
August 13th, 2009 at 9:31 am
3 Ring,
Unlock your caps. No need to shout. If you say something of note, we will all read it. lol
August 13th, 2009 at 9:31 am
ITS FUNNY THAT THE RAIDERS WANT TO POUND THE ROCK BUT CANT STOP THE RUN.
I WONDER WHY THE TITANS CAN POUND THE ROCK?
MAYBE BECAUSE THEY COULD STOP THE RUN AND GIVE L WHITE AND C JOHNSON MORE CARRIES.
SERIOUSLY THERE IS SOMETHING WRONG WITH THIS ORGANIZATION.
NO COMMON SENSE
THAT WHY MY NAME IS THREE RING CIRCUS BECAUSE IVE BEEN RIDING IT FOR A WHILE NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!11111
August 13th, 2009 at 9:31 am
9-7! Boys!
53 MEN, COUNLESS FANS, ONE PURPOSE!
DRINK IT WHILE IT’S FRESH NATION!
PLAYOFFBOUND!
August 13th, 2009 at 9:32 am
Mornin, OAK, eva, Pete, Bob, AZ, Dakota, NATION
August 13th, 2009 at 9:33 am
So just got back from an early morning sports book run, rolled over my Phillies winner from last night to the Rangers today (already blowing it I see), and wanted to put a few bucks on the Raiders tonight. I couldn’t believe it, they were a pick ‘em all week, and now the Raiders are laying 2 points. LOL, big money is being pounded on the Raiders. I put $40 on it.
August 13th, 2009 at 9:34 am
wut up dirty
August 13th, 2009 at 9:34 am
FANTASY FOOTBALL SUCKS YOU GUYS NEED TO GET MADDEN 10.
NOW THATS FANTASY FOOTBALL
888********************************
If you know where I can get it b4 tomarrow let me know!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
August 13th, 2009 at 9:36 am
Midnight at Best Buy. Most cities will have a best buy open just for the release.
August 13th, 2009 at 9:36 am
Raider O Says:
August 13th, 2009 at 9:25 am
I never played FF before!
lol
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I got you brother…Any q’s let me know I just sent 4eva a nice run down email maybe he can forward it to you!!!
Did you get that 4eva???
August 13th, 2009 at 9:37 am
exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:
August 13th, 2009 at 9:31 am
3 Ring,
Unlock your caps. No need to shout. If you say something of note, we will all read it. lol
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you happy now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
the lines were hardly addressed this year!!!!1
another mediocre season at best.
ohh well
GO Raidas!!!!!!!1111
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August 13th, 2009 at 9:37 am
AZ Raider Says:
August 13th, 2009 at 9:36 am
Midnight at Best Buy. Most cities will have a best buy open just for the release.
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LOL b4 tomarrow brother!!!! LOL
August 13th, 2009 at 9:38 am
OAKlifer Says:
August 13th, 2009 at 9:34 am
FANTASY FOOTBALL SUCKS YOU GUYS NEED TO GET MADDEN 10.
NOW THATS FANTASY FOOTBALL
888********************************
If you know where I can get it b4 tomarrow let me know!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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im in the military and stationed over seas
but im really good online
MY GAMER TAG ON XBOX 360 IS OPTIMUS PRIMAL
August 13th, 2009 at 9:39 am
Ok OAKlifer we good 2 go !!!
August 13th, 2009 at 9:41 am
That would be great OAK.I’m going to make me email available.
I’ll be back later guys, so we can chat about the game.
Later Nation.
August 13th, 2009 at 9:42 am
i gonna have to wait until it gets over seas.
only play the raidas online
my record on madden 09 online was
265W-173L
against level 15 or higher.
August 13th, 2009 at 9:42 am
Yep I got it check your e-mail OAK
August 13th, 2009 at 9:43 am
MY GAMER TAG ON XBOX 360 IS OPTIMUS PRIMAL
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Thats dope bro Ima look you up next week lets get it on tag: OgErndog86……my stuff wont be online till next week I dnt pay for LIVE in the “offseason” LOL…no point after the old madden is to old im done I dnt like the other games to much only sports titles!!!
August 13th, 2009 at 9:44 am
3 Ring,
Sit down my son… Let me pour you a glass of this fresh cool kool-aid.
The AFC West is as weak as Ricochet’s brain. If the Chargers fold like I think they will we can win 5 games just in our division, and there are 5 games outside our division that I think we could win. We usually have 1 surprise win every year. I think 9 wins is completely possible.
I’m not saying it will happen, but it definately CAN happen.
9-7!
DRINK UP YUM YUM!
August 13th, 2009 at 9:44 am
Thanks THREE RING CIRCUS!
Thx for the link to the game tonight @ 10ET.
I guess I was posting too fast per Word Press. I suppose 1 post per 6 or 7 minutes is excessive. lol
Talk to you all tomorrow with comments about the game.
Go Raiders!!! Whip them Cowgirls!!!
August 13th, 2009 at 9:45 am
O,
Peace brother!!!
I sent you a little run down email let me know if you ever have any Q’s bro!!!
RAIDER ON!!!!!!
August 13th, 2009 at 9:45 am
Good morning Raider Men!
Sad news to hear about Les Paul. What’s was so interesting some of you have been commenting about guitars recently.
Les Paul was an icon in the business and will surely be missed.
Les Paul died at age 94, bless you man.
August 13th, 2009 at 9:46 am
OAKlifer Says:
August 13th, 2009 at 9:43 am
MY GAMER TAG ON XBOX 360 IS OPTIMUS PRIMAL
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Thats dope bro Ima look you up next week lets get it on tag: OgErndog86……my stuff wont be online till next week I dnt pay for LIVE in the “offseason” LOL…no point after the old madden is to old im done I dnt like the other games to much only sports titles!!!
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look me up ill be in the lobbies talkin trash to others
OPTIMUS PRIMALX
IM REALLY GOOD.
August 13th, 2009 at 9:47 am
who is going to have a better game??????\
DHB or Roy Williams……..
August 13th, 2009 at 9:48 am
AZ Raider Says:
August 13th, 2009 at 9:44 am
3 Ring,
Sit down my son… Let me pour you a glass of this fresh cool kool-aid.
The AFC West is as weak as Ricochet’s brain. If the Chargers fold like I think they will we can win 5 games just in our division, and there are 5 games outside our division that I think we could win. We usually have 1 surprise win every year. I think 9 wins is completely possible.
I’m not saying it will happen, but it definately CAN happen.
9-7!
DRINK UP YUM YUM!
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this kool aid tastes sour seriously.
im not drinkin the kool aid until we are 3-0 against our rivals.
2-1 is good for me too.
August 13th, 2009 at 9:49 am
DARRIUS HEYWARD-BEY!
2 Redzone TD’s???????????????????
August 13th, 2009 at 9:50 am
AZ Raider
Do you live in AZ?
I lived in Mesa, AZ for two years.
August 13th, 2009 at 9:51 am
3 ring,
Here ya go my son… Just add this sugar, it will taste great!
CHAZ SCHILENS 1000+ YARDS RECIEVING!
JAVON WALKER COMEBACK PLAYER OF THE YEAR!
9-7!
53 MEN, COUTLESS FANS, ALL COMMITED TO ONE PURPOSE!
DRINK UP!
August 13th, 2009 at 9:51 am
A REALLY REALLY GREAT AND INFLUENCIAL MAN AT THAT
R.I.P Les
August 13th, 2009 at 9:52 am
AZ Raider Says:
August 13th, 2009 at 9:49 am
DARRIUS HEYWARD-BEY!
2 Redzone TD’s???????????????????
more like two drops that could of been a TD. hes too raw as a rookie. i have very little expectaions for this guy. speed kills yes but hes just going to be a distraction for the d to open up those zones
August 13th, 2009 at 9:52 am
3 RING,
Yup, moved from Cali 2.5 years ago. I’m in Central Phoenix working for Toyota on Camelback RD.
August 13th, 2009 at 9:53 am
If they actually let Nnamdi move around to cover the #1 WR then DHB
August 13th, 2009 at 9:54 am
AZ Raider Says:
August 13th, 2009 at 9:51 am
3 ring,
Here ya go my son… Just add this sugar, it will taste great!
CHAZ SCHILENS 1000+ YARDS RECIEVING!
JAVON WALKER COMEBACK PLAYER OF THE YEAR!
9-7!
53 MEN, COUTLESS FANS, ALL COMMITED TO ONE PURPOSE!
DRINK UP!
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you have the numbers wrong
7-9 sounds about right. thats a good year for me considering the last 6 years of garbage.
August 13th, 2009 at 9:54 am
Les Paul was an icon in the business and will surely be missed.
Les Paul died at age 94, bless you man.
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Not only in the business but in the music world as a whole my thoughts and prayers go out to the Paul Family…..Les Paul was a GREAT!!!!
silence
August 13th, 2009 at 9:55 am
AZ Raider Says:
August 13th, 2009 at 9:44 am
3 Ring,
Sit down my son… Let me pour you a glass of this fresh cool kool-aid.
The AFC West is as weak as Ricochet’s brain. If the Chargers fold like I think they will we can win 5 games just in our division, and there are 5 games outside our division that I think we could win. We usually have 1 surprise win every year. I think 9 wins is completely possible.
I’m not saying it will happen, but it definately CAN happen.
9-7!
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“it CAN happen”?? but you’re NOT SAYING IT WILL??
In other words, you’re spineless.
Take a friggin’ stand, you wimp.
Funny seeing you turn into a gummy worm when your comments are challenged. Then you read how you’re equally as spineless on taking a stand regarding the Raiders.
“NOT SAYING THEY WILL, BUT THEY CAN”.
Copout weak take.
IF, by some odd miracle, the Raiders do win 9 YOU WILL STATE “SEE?? I TOLD YOU ALL ALONG”
When the Raiders don’t come close you’ll state “I didn’t say they will, said it’s possible”
Stay on the fence, tool.
Some step up. Some follow. And then there are those like you, who play both sides of the fence because they’re afraid to take a stand.
AzGummyWormRaider..has a nice ring to it, doesn’t it, GummyWorm?
Remember: YOU ARE NOT ALLOWED TO REPLY. Having no balls means you hope me slapping you down, with you curling up in a fetal position, will go unnoticed.
Good luck on that, GummyWorm.
August 13th, 2009 at 9:56 am
3 ring,
It’s just kool-aid, take a sip it’s ok… If you read way back in archives, I’ve been preping everyone that DHB is a small project that may take a year or 2 to develope, so I hear ya man…
New season calls for optimism EVERY TIME in my book, so I keep drinkin and I’ll keep serving. It’s the kind of fan I am… Can’t help it.
August 13th, 2009 at 9:58 am
AZ Raider Says:
August 13th, 2009 at 9:52 am
3 RING,
Yup, moved from Cali 2.5 years ago. I’m in Central Phoenix working for Toyota on Camelback RD.
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im in the military stationed in ROTA SPAIN
i live close to the beach which carry many topless women from around Europe this time of year.
before that i was at Camp Pendleton for Three years and deployed to IRAQ once. I was in Iraq during the Art Shell debacle. Saw the SD game opener. Terrible.
August 13th, 2009 at 9:59 am
3 ring says:
7-9 sounds about right. thats a good year for me considering the last 6 years of garbage.
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Oh yeah, don’t get it twisted, I’d be happy with that type of improvement too.
Can’t wait to get this thing under way in September though. Sunday’s will be back to normal LOL.
August 13th, 2009 at 10:01 am
Richochet Says:
August 13th, 2009 at 9:55 am
AZ Raider Says:
August 13th, 2009 at 9:44 am
3 Ring,
Sit down my son… Let me pour you a glass of this fresh cool kool-aid.
The AFC West is as weak as Ricochet’s brain. If the Chargers fold like I think they will we can win 5 games just in our division, and there are 5 games outside our division that I think we could win. We usually have 1 surprise win every year. I think 9 wins is completely possible.
I’m not saying it will happen, but it definately CAN happen.
9-7!
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“it CAN happen”?? but you’re NOT SAYING IT WILL??
In other words, you’re spineless.
Take a friggin’ stand, you wimp.
Funny seeing you turn into a gummy worm when your comments are challenged. Then you read how you’re equally as spineless on taking a stand regarding the Raiders.
“NOT SAYING THEY WILL, BUT THEY CAN”.
Copout weak take.
IF, by some odd miracle, the Raiders do win 9 YOU WILL STATE “SEE?? I TOLD YOU ALL ALONG”
When the Raiders don’t come close you’ll state “I didn’t say they will, said it’s possible”
Stay on the fence, tool.
Some step up. Some follow. And then there are those like you, who play both sides of the fence because they’re afraid to take a stand.
AzGummyWormRaider..has a nice ring to it, doesn’t it, GummyWorm?
Remember: YOU ARE NOT ALLOWED TO REPLY. Having no balls means you hope me slapping you down, with you curling up in a fetal position, will go unnoticed.
Good luck on that, GummyWorm.
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this is the reason why we only go 7-0. Do you agree or not?
too many questions on our team to win
RIGHT TACKLE POSTION IS HORRIBLE= MORE SACKS FOR THE DISCHARGERS
CENTER POSTITION IS SHAKY AT BEST NO CLEAR CUT ANSWER THERE EVER SINCE ROBBINS
LINE BACKERS PLAYING MUSICAL CHAIRS
DEFENSIVE LINE MEN WHO CANT STOP THE RUN= OHH BY THE WAY LADANIAN TOMLINSONS COMING TO TOWN ALONG WITH SPROLES. ANOTHER 150 YARD RUSHING GAME FOR LT INCLUDING TWO TDS TO BOOT
NO PROVEN TALENT AT THE SAFETY POSTION!!!
FARGAS IS STARTING
WIDE RECEIVERS HAVE REALLY DONE NOTHING IN THIS LEAGUE EXCEPT FOR WALKER AND HES NOT MAKING ANY IMPACT SOON
A QUARTERBACK THAT SEEMS TO THROW ARRANT PASSES UNLESS ITS THE FASTBALL.
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ON THE OTHER HAND THE ONLY BRIGHT SPOTS I SEE IS
THE LEFT SIDE OF THE OLINE IS GOOD ENOUGH NOT GREAT
TWO POTENTIALLY GREAT RUNNING BACKS INCLUDING ONE DECENT BACK IN FARGAS.
YOUNG FAST WR CORPS
CORNER BACKS WHO CAN PLAY MAN D
AND THE WEAKSIDE LINEBACKER POSITION
THE FULL BACK POSITION
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TOO MANY QUESTIONMARKS AT CRITICAL POSTIONS TO WIN GAMES IN THE NFL PERIOD
I PREDICT
7-9 AND THATS PUSHING IT.
I AM A RAIDER FAN BUT THIS IS MY HONEST TO GOD ASSESMENT FOR THE BEGINING OF THIS SEASON
GO RAIDAS
August 13th, 2009 at 10:01 am
Richochet,
When we were talking the other day about having too much on his plate to keep coaching O line and what not…You think that its gonna make a difference this year? You think he is going to make those hard decisions that you were saying or just gonna be same ol song and dance?
August 13th, 2009 at 10:02 am
3 Ring,
An honor to chat with any of our guys over there. Sounds like your having a blast over there though, with all the topless spanish women!
August 13th, 2009 at 10:02 am
i ment 7-9
August 13th, 2009 at 10:02 am
Guys seem so upset over Fargass getting some time. I like the idea. If anything it will help keep DMac and Bush healthy considering both of those guys have had injury issues
August 13th, 2009 at 10:02 am
AZ Raider Says:
August 13th, 2009 at 9:31 am
9-7! Boys!
53 MEN, COUNLESS FANS, ONE PURPOSE!
DRINK IT WHILE IT’S FRESH NATION!
PLAYOFFBOUND!
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Counless??
Drink it while it’s fresh?
I assume you’re saying today is last day?
Yeah, we know.
All the gibberish from Raider fans is preseason. Once the game starts, the excuses start.
Here’s MY PREDICTION, GummyWorm.
I predict that YOU will lead everyone here on excuses.
Care to bet in advance? lol..come on, GummyWorm, grow some balls, and take a stand.
I predict you’ll be running the “so and so was injured”
“He ran a wrong route, wasn’t Russell’s fault”
“The ball wasn’t EXACTLY in Bey’s hands, that’s why he dropped it.”
“Offense didn’t lose it, it was because the defense missed tackles”
sound familiar, GummyWorm? lol..now that I called it, pretty much removes those copouts.
Well, of course it won’t, but at least I get to cut and paste it, OVER AND OVER, laughing at ya
Told ya..is this fun..or what?
August 13th, 2009 at 10:04 am
AZ Raider Says:
August 13th, 2009 at 10:02 am
3 Ring,
An honor to chat with any of our guys over there. Sounds like your having a blast over there though, with all the topless spanish women!
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i just go out to the beach pich an umbrella, a beach chair, and a cooler full of Beer and enjoy the view of women passing buy!!!!!
August 13th, 2009 at 10:05 am
raidertay Says:
August 13th, 2009 at 10:02 am
Guys seem so upset over Fargass getting some time. I like the idea. If anything it will help keep DMac and Bush healthy considering both of those guys have had injury issues
August 13th, 2009 at 10:07 am
raidertay Says:
August 13th, 2009 at 10:02 am
Guys seem so upset over Fargass getting some time. I like the idea. If anything it will help keep DMac and Bush healthy considering both of those guys have had injury issues
Mcfadden’s demise was from a freak injury.
Hes ready to play this year
He has beefed up to 218 pounds
check Comcast
http://www.csnbayarea.com/pages/main
go to raiders vid
August 13th, 2009 at 10:08 am
priesttj Says:
August 13th, 2009 at 9:09 am
Anybody that understands the 4/3 defense knows that it doesn’t call for a true NT, a NT is mostly employed in a 3/4 defense. It also depends on what the DC is asking the the 2 DT’s to do.
If you look at the teams the employ the cover2 scheme there is no true NT. If you look at Brace the guy everyone in here pints out the Raiders should’ve taken HE does not play like a true NG/NT.
Figure it out will ya’ We don’t ask Warren to be a NT because we don’t run a 3/4 defense…………GET IT!
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Priesttj,
The Raiders emphasize pass rushers. That’s what Kelly and Warren are….pass rushers…they look to penetrate and get to the QB. Problem is…no one wants to play the run, which is different skillset. Instead of a focus on penetration…a run stuffer occupies two blockers and has to use his strenght to anchor.
Warren doesn’t do that very well…nor is it his expertise….He’s a penetrating pass rusher and more suited for Tommy Kelly’s UT position.
Good D-Lineman can occupy those O-Lineman a plug running lanes therefore allowing the linebackers to stay clean and fly to the ball.
That hasn’t happened in Oakland in a long-time because of a SINGULAR focus on pass-defense and a total neglect of run stopping.
That’s why the offense better morph into a Indy Colts / New England Patriots…because this defense has a penchant for giving up the goods when it counts.
Hopefully John Marshall can clean this up. Just unfortunate they did precious little to help this out in the draft. Tommy Kelly and Gerard Warren have NO COMPETITION at their respective positions. Only Nnamdi Asomugha should be in that position.
August 13th, 2009 at 10:08 am
3 ring,
Being in Mesa I know you were loving all the females wearing close to nothing in the 100+ heat! I’ll tell ya what, it’s a far cry in Scottsdale/Phoenix from the Sacromento Area in Cali. The female to male ratio here is excellent indeed
August 13th, 2009 at 10:11 am
ITS FUNNY THAT THE RAIDERS WANT TO POUND THE ROCK BUT CANT STOP THE RUN.
I WONDER WHY THE TITANS CAN POUND THE ROCK?
MAYBE BECAUSE THEY COULD STOP THE RUN AND GIVE L WHITE AND C JOHNSON MORE CARRIES.
SERIOUSLY THERE IS SOMETHING WRONG WITH THIS ORGANIZATION.
NO COMMON SENSE
THAT WHY MY NAME IS THREE RING CIRCUS BECAUSE IVE BEEN RIDING IT FOR A WHILE NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!11111
August 13th, 2009 at 10:12 am
3 ring,
Being in Mesa I know you were loving all the females wearing close to nothing in the 100+ heat! I’ll tell ya what, it’s a far cry in Scottsdale/Phoenix from the Sacromento Area in Cali. The female to male ratio here is excellent indeed
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you should take a trip to lake havaseu
alot of action there too!!!!1
August 13th, 2009 at 10:13 am
The O-line is FAR greater than it was because of addition by subtraction: Kwaaameeee and Grove,their gone were better just like that.I would have liked 2 draft Mack but it appears they are satisfied with Chris Morris’ versatility at gaurd/center.2 me this is the big thing if no one can beat out Carlysle/Green then they start.How will these guys respond.Their above average run blockers and are terrible at pass blocking.This is where a good FB comes 2 mind and we have 2 excellent FB’s.So our pass protection plus our FB’s great ability at being a safty-valve 4 Jmac.Yep we got our FB’S
August 13th, 2009 at 10:13 am
THREE RING CIRCUS Says:
August 13th, 2009 at 10:01 am this is the reason why we only go 7-0. Do you agree or not?
too many questions on our team to win
RIGHT TACKLE POSTION IS HORRIBLE= MORE SACKS FOR THE DISCHARGERS
CENTER POSTITION IS SHAKY AT BEST NO CLEAR CUT ANSWER THERE EVER SINCE ROBBINS
LINE BACKERS PLAYING MUSICAL CHAIRS
DEFENSIVE LINE MEN WHO CANT STOP THE RUN= OHH BY THE WAY LADANIAN TOMLINSONS COMING TO TOWN ALONG WITH SPROLES. ANOTHER 150 YARD RUSHING GAME FOR LT INCLUDING TWO TDS TO BOOT
NO PROVEN TALENT AT THE SAFETY POSTION!!!
FARGAS IS STARTING
WIDE RECEIVERS HAVE REALLY DONE NOTHING IN THIS LEAGUE EXCEPT FOR WALKER AND HES NOT MAKING ANY IMPACT SOON
A QUARTERBACK THAT SEEMS TO THROW ARRANT PASSES UNLESS ITS THE FASTBALL.
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ON THE OTHER HAND THE ONLY BRIGHT SPOTS I SEE IS
THE LEFT SIDE OF THE OLINE IS GOOD ENOUGH NOT GREAT
TWO POTENTIALLY GREAT RUNNING BACKS INCLUDING ONE DECENT BACK IN FARGAS.
YOUNG FAST WR CORPS
CORNER BACKS WHO CAN PLAY MAN D
AND THE WEAKSIDE LINEBACKER POSITION
THE FULL BACK POSITION
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TOO MANY QUESTIONMARKS AT CRITICAL POSTIONS TO WIN GAMES IN THE NFL PERIOD
I PREDICT
7-9 AND THATS PUSHING IT.
I AM A RAIDER FAN BUT THIS IS MY HONEST TO GOD ASSESMENT FOR THE BEGINING OF THIS SEASON
GO RAIDAS
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One of the most realistic takes on this board.
You’re dead on.
Right side of line is suspect at best.
Center position, between Wade and Satale is a “which is less likely to get run over” decision.
Russell is approaching the “can’t hit water from a boat” stage, unless he’s throwing it as hard as he can, which rarely, if ever works.
D line alone is going to keep every other team in it, regardless of how the offense does.
Weak safties means defense will have to call schemes to compensate for that.
And yes, Bush should be starting. Fargas is a “company” guy, but this isn’t a feel good league, it’s a who is better league, and what have you done for me league.
WR are young. Only problem is you have not one but TWO qb’s who’s throws set the receivers up TO GET KILLED.
I recall Gonzalez, with KC, I believe it was, who commented to Raider WR’s last year that ‘you better have a talk with your qb, he’s going to get one of you seriously hurt” and Garcia’s BIGGEST knock is he constantly throws off target balls, too high, too low, behind receiver, where receiver is hung out to dry.
Good take.
They’re far and few between in these parts.
August 13th, 2009 at 10:15 am
3 ring,
I take my truck out to the lake all the time! 4 wheel out to the coves, camp and party like rock-stars out there… Great times.
August 13th, 2009 at 10:17 am
man I’m slammin the kool aid =)
August 13th, 2009 at 10:18 am
http://www.csnbayarea.com/pages/raiders
check out videos 17-24 and click on Mcfadden’s picture.
HES BEEFED UP TO 218 POUNDS. THIS GUY’S
ready to make an impact.
He should of stuck with ADDIDAS cleats instead of NIKE. If you know what i mean.
August 13th, 2009 at 10:20 am
Man I never thought Mike Vick was that accurate not a big fan but the way are QB play is, Garcia on the down side and who cares about the other QBs maybe we should think about his services. At least he can move to buy himself some time in the pocket.
August 13th, 2009 at 10:21 am
I just read a article by John Lopez on SI.COM.
The article headline reads “Rookie contracts are ridiculous but don’t expect change soon”.
The article begins that a rookie salary cap may come around soon and it will be called the “Crabtree Rule”.
I will quote the best paragraph “It is even more absurd that No. 10 pick Crabtree, who is coming off an injury and has as many NFL receptions as I do, is holding out for a contract better than No.7 overall pick Darrius heyward Bey’s five year, $38.25 million deal. If Crabtree gets that kind of money, he will earn roughly $3 million more per year than Jerry Rice ever did in a single season.”
The article continues to negotiate s rookie salary cap for the game and the various agents and officals give their reasons why there should be a cap, and those argue why the system should stay as is.
I’m sure glad our guy is in camp, Crabtree, when and if he gets in camp will be a wasted season.
He will go down as the biggest fool and his career will always have him labeled as a prima donna holdout.
August 13th, 2009 at 10:23 am
One of the most realistic takes on this board.
You’re dead on.
Right side of line is suspect at best.
Center position, between Wade and Satale is a “which is less likely to get run over” decision.
Russell is approaching the “can’t hit water from a boat” stage, unless he’s throwing it as hard as he can, which rarely, if ever works.
D line alone is going to keep every other team in it, regardless of how the offense does.
Weak safties means defense will have to call schemes to compensate for that.
And yes, Bush should be starting. Fargas is a “company” guy, but this isn’t a feel good league, it’s a who is better league, and what have you done for me league.
WR are young. Only problem is you have not one but TWO qb’s who’s throws set the receivers up TO GET KILLED.
I recall Gonzalez, with KC, I believe it was, who commented to Raider WR’s last year that ‘you better have a talk with your qb, he’s going to get one of you seriously hurt” and Garcia’s BIGGEST knock is he constantly throws off target balls, too high, too low, behind receiver, where receiver is hung out to dry.
Good take.
They’re far and few between in these parts.
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Thanks Man. Im a realist. Im not slammin the koolaid until we go 3-0 against pur rivals
The Raiders have talent. But talent cant win when there on the side lines
August 13th, 2009 at 10:29 am
Raider Headbutt Says:
August 13th, 2009 at 10:01 am
Richochet,
When we were talking the other day about having too much on his plate to keep coaching O line and what not…You think that its gonna make a difference this year? You think he is going to make those hard decisions that you were saying or just gonna be same ol song and dance?
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Speaking of that, who’s calling the plays this year?
don’t recall seeing Cable state who is, although I’m sure he has.
In answer to your question? I honestly don’t think he has the authority to make those hard decisions. The last HC, IMO, who did have that authority was Gruden.
And I believe it’s because he took it, not because Al relented. Who can forget Gruden, after getting a phone call from Al’s booth, flipping off Al, while throwing a tantrum being told what play to call?
Go back to Norv days. 4 games left in season. Collins was beat, and beat bad..had nothing in the tank, and Norv benched him. Said to Tue “You’re starting. next 4 games are yours. Show us what you have.”
Al overruled Norv, and Collins goes back in, to lose the final 4 games.
If Russell struggles? Will Cable pull the plug? Maybe sit him? (remember, that happened exactly to Garcia in SF, after he took over for Young being injured. Mooch sat Garcia for a couple of games to get his head back on straight, and to maybe settle down. (He never did)
I don’t think Cable will.
Besides, for some ODD reason, when the whole world knew Kwame couldn’t block my grandmother, Cable not only refused to bench him, but publicly stated “Kwame Harris is our starting LT”
Now..WHO HERE BELIEVES THAT THIS WAS CABLE TALKING? OR WAS HE TOLD WHO THE STARTING LT WAS?
Al had already gotten grief from signing Walker, and Hall, and now Kwame..and Al stubbornly tried to make at least one of the three work..and nothing Cable could do.
Song and Dance 101
August 13th, 2009 at 10:29 am
AZ Raider Says:
August 13th, 2009 at 10:15 am
3 ring,
I take my truck out to the lake all the time! 4 wheel out to the coves, camp and party like rock-stars out there… Great times.
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i used to go to the salt river and lake superior and jump off the cliffs. what a blast man. had this young blonde girlfriend what a hotty she was. i think she was underage though.
August 13th, 2009 at 10:30 am
I predict cantstandthehaters will be making a guest apperance soon!!!!!!!
oh yeah and 9-7 I stand behind that 100% and if they dnt do it it wont any blame except where it belongs……..
August 13th, 2009 at 10:31 am
AZ Raider Says:
August 13th, 2009 at 9:34 am
wut up dirty
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Workin hard, tryin to get out early to see the game.
Anyone part of the Sacramento Raider Rooters?
August 13th, 2009 at 10:32 am
every one knows Cable will be calling the plays. he did last year. Fake field goal.
August 13th, 2009 at 10:33 am
Satele was a big reason the fins went 11-5.Plus hes closer 2 home
August 13th, 2009 at 10:34 am
4evaRaider Says:
August 13th, 2009 at 10:33 am
Satele was a big reason the fins went 11-5.Plus hes closer 2 home
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i think hes still hurt thats why hes not starting today.
August 13th, 2009 at 10:35 am
weird… no chat from http://www.ibabuzz.com but insidebayarea.com instead…
at least that is what JMcD’s tweet said and have confirmed….
August 13th, 2009 at 10:35 am
9-7? Then we better start out 4-0 because the sched gets tough…
but I am not holding my breath…at this point it will probably take Cable about the first 6 games to realize that Fargas needs to be 3rd string, that Green needs replaced, and that JLH and Chaz should be on the field more that Walker.
Our coach is slow at times.
6-10
August 13th, 2009 at 10:35 am
Richochet Says:
August 13th, 2009 at 10:29 am
Al had already gotten grief from signing Walker, and Hall, and now Kwame..and Al stubbornly tried to make at least one of the three work..and nothing Cable could do.
Song and Dance 101
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Talk about few and far between….But I think I agreee with this 100%…sad but true
August 13th, 2009 at 10:36 am
too many questions on our team to win
RIGHT TACKLE POSTION IS HORRIBLE= MORE SACKS FOR THE DISCHARGERS
CENTER POSTITION IS SHAKY AT BEST NO CLEAR CUT ANSWER THERE EVER SINCE ROBBINS
LINE BACKERS PLAYING MUSICAL CHAIRS
DEFENSIVE LINE MEN WHO CANT STOP THE RUN= OHH BY THE WAY LADANIAN TOMLINSONS COMING TO TOWN ALONG WITH SPROLES. ANOTHER 150 YARD RUSHING GAME FOR LT INCLUDING TWO TDS TO BOOT
NO PROVEN TALENT AT THE SAFETY POSTION!!!
FARGAS IS STARTING
WIDE RECEIVERS HAVE REALLY DONE NOTHING IN THIS LEAGUE EXCEPT FOR WALKER AND HES NOT MAKING ANY IMPACT SOON
A QUARTERBACK THAT SEEMS TO THROW ARRANT PASSES UNLESS ITS THE FASTBALL.
=====================================
ON THE OTHER HAND THE ONLY BRIGHT SPOTS I SEE IS
THE LEFT SIDE OF THE OLINE IS GOOD ENOUGH NOT GREAT
TWO POTENTIALLY GREAT RUNNING BACKS INCLUDING ONE DECENT BACK IN FARGAS.
YOUNG FAST WR CORPS
CORNER BACKS WHO CAN PLAY MAN D
AND THE WEAKSIDE LINEBACKER POSITION
THE FULL BACK POSITION
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TOO MANY QUESTIONMARKS AT CRITICAL POSTIONS TO WIN GAMES IN THE NFL PERIOD
I PREDICT
7-9 AND THATS PUSHING IT.
I AM A RAIDER FAN BUT THIS IS MY HONEST TO GOD ASSESMENT FOR THE BEGINING OF THIS SEASON
GO RAIDAS
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August 13th, 2009 at 10:37 am
THREE RING CIRCUS Says:
August 13th, 2009 at 10:32 am
every one knows Cable will be calling the plays. he did last year. Fake field goal.
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Well if thats the case hopefully he has been ridiculed enough to stop that kinda stuff.
Honestly I know people are hating on Fargas starting, but I still think that DMAC is going to get his touches. That being said I hope if Cable is calling the plays, he starts using him is space because thats how he plays well, give him daylight and watch him make something.
August 13th, 2009 at 10:37 am
Our coach is slow at times.
LOL
Good Day Dakota….yes it would seem that way from time to time huh??
August 13th, 2009 at 10:40 am
Raider Headbutt Says:
August 13th, 2009 at 10:37 am
THREE RING CIRCUS Says:
August 13th, 2009 at 10:32 am
every one knows Cable will be calling the plays. he did last year. Fake field goal.
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Well if thats the case hopefully he has been ridiculed enough to stop that kinda stuff.
Honestly I know people are hating on Fargas starting, but I still think that DMAC is going to get his touches. That being said I hope if Cable is calling the plays, he starts using him is space because thats how he plays well, give him daylight and watch him make something
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if DMAC cant unseat fargas for the starting job then our GM has some drafting issues!!!!!!!
60 million dollar contract to warm the bench!
Are you serious.!
August 13th, 2009 at 10:41 am
Richochet,
Bro in post 581 you will see that for every action there is an equal and oppisit reaction…..there for it is fine to state facts as you see them (opinions) then you should also look at the good things too!!!
Good work 3 ring….
And thank you Sir for allowing me to sit behind this key board Raider Blog and work!!1
FREEDOM IS NOT FREE!!!! Again THANK YOU SIR…….
August 13th, 2009 at 10:42 am
THREE RING CIRCUS Says:
if DMAC cant unseat fargas for the starting job then our GM has some drafting issues!!!!!!!
60 million dollar contract to warm the bench!
Are you serious.!
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I think some questions will be answered tonight. It says in the article that most of the starters are going for 1 qtr, but specifically it says that DMAC, Fargas and Bush will see more time as he is going to try and use a system he wants to use in the regular season.
August 13th, 2009 at 10:43 am
What’s up fellas.
Big game tonight! Looking forward to seeing a lot of things. Hopefully my fellow Louisvillian Bush gets to get a significant amount of carries. He’s officially 3 years away from that nasty injury he suffered against UK in our home opener in what was supposed to be a championship year for the Ville.
On another note, I might be a little loony, but I’m seriously contemplating the possibility that Terdell Sands, Gerard Warren, Tommy Kelley, Cornell Green, and Michael Huff all got their skills stolen from them by those lil’ alien f’ers from the movie Space Jam. That’s the only logical explanation for their inexplicable play. Don’t know if he ever had it, but can Cornell PLEASE get his Mojo back? PLEASE!!!!! It’s incredibly hard being a diehard Raider fan and hating a player as much as I hated Derrick Gibson. C’mon Cornell, ball up this year!
August 13th, 2009 at 10:44 am
OAKlifer Says:
August 13th, 2009 at 10:41 am
Richochet,
Bro in post 581 you will see that for every action there is an equal and oppisit reaction…..there for it is fine to state facts as you see them (opinions) then you should also look at the good things too!!!
Good work 3 ring….
And thank you Sir for allowing me to sit behind this key board Raider Blog and work!!1
FREEDOM IS NOT FREE!!!! Again THANK YOU SIR…….
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your welcome!!!!!!!!!!!!
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hopefully we finally draft some big uglies on those lines.
How many track stars will AL need before he can satisfy his appetite?
MONROE WAS THERE AND WE PASSED HIM UP.
WE COULD OF PLUGGED HIM ON THE RIGHT SIDE AND GREEN COULD RIDE THE BENCH.
August 13th, 2009 at 10:45 am
Jake Grove sucks. Wade should have started last year and mastered the zone scheme. Grove, with his girly “micro” injuries was a wasted pick. IMO he was as bad as Green last year and I was glad Cable decided to fire him.
August 13th, 2009 at 10:45 am
lol waddup Oak, im bizzy setting up my pre-draft rankings so this will be a short appearence. Its On! and so far exla is first!
August 13th, 2009 at 10:45 am
it says that DMAC, Fargas and Bush will see more time as he is going to try and use a system he wants to use in the regular season.
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LOL if cable is tryiong to play all three guys we are in for a long season…I want it to be Darren and Mike but if coach thinks Justin beats on of them out then so be it..but we really only need to roll with 2 RB’s on game days….SEE carolina……the 3rd would get in the way to much…imho
Honestly none of these 3 guys is ok with 3-5 carries aa game!! LOL
August 13th, 2009 at 10:45 am
great post by S&B #559
spot on!
August 13th, 2009 at 10:47 am
I think some questions will be answered tonight. It says in the article that most of the starters are going for 1 qtr, but specifically it says that DMAC, Fargas and Bush will see more time as he is going to try and use a system he wants to use in the regular season.
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DMAC NEEDS TO START UNTIL HE CANT GO NO MORE!!!!!!!!
SO WHEN WE PUT UP 3 TD’S IN THE FIRST HALF BUSH COULD STEP IN AND EAT UP THAT CLOCK!!!!
August 13th, 2009 at 10:48 am
Its On! and so far exla is first!
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huffff.pffffff.hffff
Can we quit running Im in like last place here!!!1
LOL
August 13th, 2009 at 10:48 am
Satele played injured all last year (shoulder)They will not use him in pre-season if he is still having issues with it.Come 9-14-09 I bebieve Satele will B the starter
August 13th, 2009 at 10:48 am
Raider Dell Says:
August 13th, 2009 at 10:21 am
I just read a article by John Lopez on SI.COM.
The article headline reads “Rookie contracts are ridiculous but don’t expect change soon”.
The article begins that a rookie salary cap may come around soon and it will be called the “Crabtree Rule”.
I will quote the best paragraph “It is even more absurd that No. 10 pick Crabtree, who is coming off an injury and has as many NFL receptions as I do, is holding out for a contract better than No.7 overall pick Darrius heyward Bey’s five year, $38.25 million deal. If Crabtree gets that kind of money, he will earn roughly $3 million more per year than Jerry Rice ever did in a single season.”
The article continues to negotiate s rookie salary cap for the game and the various agents and officals give their reasons why there should be a cap, and those argue why the system should stay as is.
I’m sure glad our guy is in camp, Crabtree, when and if he gets in camp will be a wasted season.
He will go down as the biggest fool and his career will always have him labeled as a prima donna holdout.
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Ridiculous.
Is Russell labeled FOREVER as a “prima donna holdout”??
You know what NFL players say about it? Nothing..they honestly could care less. What the Niners receiving coach said, when asked? ‘It’s the NFL. That’s what happens. It’s not him, it’s what happens. We deal with the agent, and when he comes into camp, we’ll catch him up.”
Singletary held out DECADES AGO..because he was a second round pick, wanting first round money. he got it.
He also held out two years later. Said he was the best, and now wanted best money. He got it.
Guess what?
He’s NOT forever known as a “diva prima donna”
Neither is Russell.
Oh..and how about #6 drafted player? Why isn’t HE labeled the same? Or #8? How about #9? But for some reason, #10 is?
lol..again…RIDICULOUS.
Admit it, Bey signed immediately. Because it was #1 WR money, when clearly Maclin and Crabtree are far superior.
Al blew it..again..and now he’s in camp..dropping balls..over and over and over again.
I’ll take the #1 receiver in the draft holdout any day.
August 13th, 2009 at 10:49 am
Three Ring,
Obviously the best players in Oakland don’t always see the field. A deaf, dumb and blind coach would have known Henderson was far better than Harris, and yet Harris kept on getting thrown out there by Cable….so everyone knows that DMAC is much better than Fargas, but Cable has a preference for Fargas and it may very well get him fired. We’ll see.
August 13th, 2009 at 10:49 am
this is fun to watch!
AZ & OAKlifer = Kool-Aid suppliers
vs.
Richochet & THREE RING CIRCUS = guys who love to p1ss in the Kool-Aid
hahaha
August 13th, 2009 at 10:49 am
NEW POST
August 13th, 2009 at 10:50 am
For all we know, DMAC could be the starter and when they put him as a slot back Bush comes in as RB. Lets not get too crazy on the fact that Fargas in on the depth chart, only a matter of time until we get to see what happens.
August 13th, 2009 at 10:50 am
http://www.csnbayarea.com/pages/raiders
check out videos 17-24 and click on Mcfadden’s picture.
HES BEEFED UP TO 218 POUNDS. THIS GUY’S
ready to make an impact.
He should of stuck with ADDIDAS cleats instead of NIKE. If you know what i mean.
August 13th, 2009 at 10:51 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
August 13th, 2009 at 10:49 am
this is fun to watch!
AZ & OAKlifer = Kool-Aid suppliers
vs.
Richochet & THREE RING CIRCUS = guys who love to p1ss in the Kool-Aid
hahaha
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lmao
August 13th, 2009 at 10:52 am
4evaRaider Says:
August 13th, 2009 at 10:33 am
Satele was a big reason the fins went 11-5.Plus hes closer 2 home
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Satele’s knocks are size and weakness. Get’s tossed around like a rag doll. That’s why Miami took Grove, and let Satele go.
Why would they go after Grove, and let Satele go, if he was “one of the reasons for 11-5″?
August 13th, 2009 at 10:53 am
Other than Mitchell, those who won’t play include WR Javon Walker (knee), T Khalif Barnes (ankle, G Robert Gallery (appendectomy), OL Mark Wilson (back), QB Jeff Garcia (calfh and DL Derrick Gray (knee strain). Jon Alston is questionable with plantar fasciatis.
-Jerry Mac
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who says Samson Satele ain’t playing or starting tonight? he’s been healthy for all of training camp!
just sat out the first few OTA’s recovering from offseason surgery…
August 13th, 2009 at 10:55 am
Monroe AND BRACE WAS THERE IN THE FIRST AND SECOND ROUND. NOW WE GOT A SPEEDY RECEIVER AND A A HARD HITTING BENCH WARMER
August 13th, 2009 at 10:56 am
Richochet Says:
August 13th, 2009 at 10:52 am
4evaRaider Says:
August 13th, 2009 at 10:33 am
Satele was a big reason the fins went 11-5.Plus hes closer 2 home
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Satele’s knocks are size and weakness. Get’s tossed around like a rag doll. That’s why Miami took Grove, and let Satele go.
Why would they go after Grove, and let Satele go, if he was “one of the reasons for 11-5″?
Ricochet
who do you think got the better of those seperate trades…Grove/Satele???
August 13th, 2009 at 10:57 am
L Phillips of the Chargers was man handling GREEN
August 13th, 2009 at 10:59 am
Ricochet
who do you think got the better of those seperate trades…Grove/Satele???
we both got screwed!!!!!!!!!!!!!
August 13th, 2009 at 11:01 am
Every posession the raiders gets on offense is crucial considering our poor run D. we may never know when we will get the ball back. these three and out opening drives have got to stop.
August 13th, 2009 at 11:03 am
“the Raiders have talent.but talent can’t win when there(meant they’re)on the side lines”.
Another genius comment by someone barely out of adolescence.
August 13th, 2009 at 11:09 am
Honestly none of these 3 guys is ok with 3-5 carries aa game!! LOL
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Your right Oak, especially Bush. Seems to be mediocre until he gets into a rythm… But when he gets going, oh man.
August 13th, 2009 at 12:04 pm
4evaRaider Says:
August 13th, 2009 at 10:56 am
Richochet Says:
August 13th, 2009 at 10:52 am
4evaRaider Says:
August 13th, 2009 at 10:33 am
Satele was a big reason the fins went 11-5.Plus hes closer 2 home
==============================
Satele’s knocks are size and weakness. Get’s tossed around like a rag doll. That’s why Miami took Grove, and let Satele go.
Why would they go after Grove, and let Satele go, if he was “one of the reasons for 11-5″?
Ricochet
who do you think got the better of those seperate trades…Grove/Satele???
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Here’s one way to look at it.
The Fins know exactly who their starting center is, as of today.
The Raiders aren’t sure who their starter is, as of today.
IF GROVE WAS STILL WITH THE RAIDERS, the Raiders would know who their starting center is, as of today.