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By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Wednesday, August 12th, 2009 at 2:10 pm in Oakland Raiders.

Will have access to Tom Cable’s press briefing but won’t be able to post it until this evening.

Connection speeds are staggeringly slow at my present location while enjoying one last summer outing with the family . . .

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  • Brien the General

    Sup Bob my alter ego

  • Mistabrown

    Yesterday Obama tells a town hall that the AARP supports his bill.

    Today the spokesman for the AARP says NO they do not support his bill.

    Barb@ck is a ridiculous POS!

  • http://www.car.org KoolKell

    Mistabrown Says:
    August 12th, 2009 at 6:28 pm

    Barb@ck gets to wakeup every morning & lie to the Amer people about Health Care because if hes honest about whats coming people will freak the hell out!

    What a life. He has brought the Presidency to an ALL time low.
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    MistaBrown

    Can you marshall any facts or statistics to support your emotional rants?

  • Brien the General

    # Mistabrown Says:
    August 12th, 2009 at 6:35 pm

    Yesterday Obama tells a town hall that the AARP supports his bill.

    Today the spokesman for the AARP says NO they do not support his bill.

    Barb@ck is a ridiculous POS!
    *****************************

    This is truth

  • Brien the General

    Kell I have a lie for you……….what about the fact of his promise to end the war? How about flip flopping on that issue later on?

  • Brien the General

    Spread the wealth= spread the death

  • Norco Bob

    Al Davis for president.

  • Norco Bob

    Charles Barkley VP

  • http://RAIDERS Oakglenn

    Mistabrown Says:
    August 12th, 2009 at 6:26 pm

    Are you kidding me? People die in line waiting for the GOVT to sort out whos going to get what & when.
    ————————————————-

    This is one of the great scare tactic LIES that the Republicans and Insurance companies put out to keep the status quo. Health care in almost every industrialized country is better and more efficient than ours. Elective surgeries certainly, take a back seat to necessary procedures. So, if you REALLY want to be genuine, you should rant about how some boob jobs are going to take years to happen.

  • http://www.car.org KoolKell

    Repost

    MistaBrown

    Listen carefully to the question:

    Why do you suppose the UK & Canada have lower “infant mortality rates” than the United States?

    Infant Mortality Rate = Death/1000 live births.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_infant_mortality_rate

  • Chris in NY

    WAS OBAMA SAYING AARP SUPPORTED HIS BILL REALLY A LIE? OR JUST A MISUNDERSTANDING BECAUSE AARP HAS PUBLICLY COME OUT IN FAVOR OF THE BILL NUMEROUS TIMES, BUT NOTES THAT IT HASN’T GIVEN ITS OFFICIAL STAMP OF APPROVAL. THIS ARTICLE EXPLAINS THE CONFUSION AND SHOWS THAT OBAMA’S CLAIM IS NOT WITHOUT MERIT:

    Several times at the town hall in Portsmouth, N.H., on Aug. 11, Obama specifically mentioned AARP’s support for health care reform. It’s little wonder why: the AARP is the country’s largest and most powerful advocate for seniors.

    “We have the AARP on board because they know this is a good deal for our seniors,” Obama said at one point.

    And later, in response to a question about whether the health care plan would reduce the availability of medications through Medicare, Obama said, “Well, first of all, another myth that we’ve been hearing about is this notion that somehow we’re going to be cutting your Medicare benefits. We are not. AARP would not be endorsing a bill if it was undermining Medicare, okay?”

    It was that last comment that caught the attention of AARP executives. Not the part that AARP would not support a bill that undermines Medicare benefits. That’s true. It was the suggestion that AARP had formally endorsed any particular version of the still-evolving health care plan working its way through Congress.

    AARP Chief Operating Officer Tom Nelson immediately fired off a press release saying that “indications that we have endorsed any of the major health care reform bills currently under consideration in Congress are inaccurate.”

    The rebuke likely confused a lot of AARP members who have read or heard numerous AARP statements in recent weeks that have supported various aspects of the health care plan.

    Just a few weeks ago, on July 14, the AARP issued a press release gushing about the introduction of the House health care reform bill saying, “This bill would make great strides for all of our members and their families.” The group said it was pleased with the legislation for giving “every American has access to affordable, quality health care choices.”

    Specifically, the release said the bill would make prescription drugs less expensive for seniors, would block insurance companies from denying coverage based on age, and for capping out-of-pocket expenses for some insurance plans. AARP did not explicitly say it was endorsing the bill, but there was not a single negative comment in the statement.

    In a July 14 ad sponsored by Healthy Economy Now – a coalition including AARP, the American Medical Association and the pharmaceutical industry, among others – the tone was decidedly upbeat. “The president and Congress have a plan to lower costs and stop denials for preexisting conditions,” the ad says. “It’s time to act.”

    ***

    The people up on their soapboxes calling Obama a liar for saying the bill had AARP’s support are either flat-out, evil liars (the Glenn Beck’s, Sean Hannity’s, etc.) or they unfortunately listen to and believe the outrageous claims and misleading accusations concocted by these slimy liars. Either way, they’re off target.

  • Brien the General

    LOL bob

  • http://www.car.org KoolKell

    MistaBrown: Repost

    Why do you suppose UK & Canada have longer Life Expectancies

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_life_expectancy

    ………….

  • Brien the General

    LOL @ Kell. He is persistent. The USA has the most murderers and super criminals the earth has ever known. Also the diet here is awful. The women are fat and so are the kids. We are heavy off all kinds of drugs and you wonder why UK and Canada have longer life expectancies lol

  • SnB offense defense specialteams

    Brien,

    That’s my biggest problem with Fargas. He simply has not shown the ability to take the game completely over. Damn the passing game. Just take it over.

    Fargas gives you too many “okay” games….”Role player” type games.

    DMAC rushing for 160 yds against KC is taking over the game. Especially WHEN EVERYONE KNEW HE WAS GETTING THE BALL.

    Compare that to the second K.C game. A game where the running back needed to be dominant. What did we get?

    Sometimes it seems the Raiders put winning on the backburner.

  • Florida Pete

    KK

    they will not listen to you…

    if you are talking to someone who is not convinced that Obama is the legitimate president… i.e… born in Hawaii…

    then you have no hope of eliciting an intelligent response…

    by the way… here’s the latest from AARP…

    uh, it is for those of you willing to get your information from someone other than Limbaugh, Beck, OReally, Savage, etc…

    http://www.aarpmagazine.org/health/8_myths_about_health_care_reform.html

  • Chris in NY

    # Brien the General Says:
    August 12th, 2009 at 6:51 pm

    LOL @ Kell. He is persistent. The USA has the most murderers and super criminals the earth has ever known. Also the diet here is awful. The women are fat and so are the kids. We are heavy off all kinds of drugs and you wonder why UK and Canada have longer life expectancies lol

    —————————

    WTF are super criminals? Agree about the fatties though.

  • http://www.car.org KoolKell

    Well,

    MistaBrown

    Listen carefully to the question:

    Why do you suppose the UK & Canada have lower “infant mortality rates” than the United States?

    Infant Mortality Rate = Death/1000 live births.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_infant_mortality_rate

  • Florida Pete

    KK

    mistabrown thinks if we have a higher mortality rate…

    well… that means we’re winning…

  • Brien the General

    # Chris in NY Says:
    August 12th, 2009 at 6:53 pm

    # Brien the General Says:
    August 12th, 2009 at 6:51 pm

    LOL @ Kell. He is persistent. The USA has the most murderers and super criminals the earth has ever known. Also the diet here is awful. The women are fat and so are the kids. We are heavy off all kinds of drugs and you wonder why UK and Canada have longer life expectancies lol

    —————————

    WTF are super criminals? Agree about the fatties though.
    **********************************

    Chris we have the vile animals on the planet earth. Gangs, hardcore murderers, rapists and even the bitch that created planned parenthood. Look at the people in jail here. What about the fact that no one and I mean no one kills each others like people in the USA. This isnt even up for debate

  • Brien the General

    # SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
    August 12th, 2009 at 6:52 pm

    Brien,

    That’s my biggest problem with Fargas. He simply has not shown the ability to take the game completely over. Damn the passing game. Just take it over.

    Fargas gives you too many “okay” games….”Role player” type games.

    DMAC rushing for 160 yds against KC is taking over the game. Especially WHEN EVERYONE KNEW HE WAS GETTING THE BALL.

    Compare that to the second K.C game. A game where the running back needed to be dominant. What did we get?

    Sometimes it seems the Raiders put winning on the backburner.
    *************************

    Exactly I said that either last night or earlier today! Farglass is gonna hurt the offense and everyone will say “Brien, you were right” again and I will be even more pissed about it. Expect a loss come Sept 14th

  • http://www.car.org KoolKell

    MistaBrown,

    Medical Bills Leading Cause of Bankruptcy, Harvard Study Finds

    http://www.consumeraffairs.com/news04/2005/bankruptcy_study.html#ixzz0O1YetYUv

  • Brien the General

    SnB, we dont have a true Nose Tackle and reports say Ron Brace is a muthfugga right now to deal with for the Pats. Could have used him but noooooooooooooo. WE love the buddy system here with Gerard the UT Warren. We are about to get what we deserve ala Snow Job Feb 2002 and the Super Bowl Feb 03

  • http://www.car.org KoolKell

    MistaBrown is dead certain, and wholly uninformed. A common trait.

  • Brien the General

    On tuesday Sept 15th, many will wake up with the sobering notion that the Raiders dont want to win on the field and losing season number 7 is happening and the Super Bowl we all drea of is that much further away. This is a fuking joke and I’m hoping Farglass gets injured sometime soon

  • Brien the General

    SnB, sad to see such a promising thing go down the drain. I bet Bush gets traded before the trade deadline and we keep Farglass in 2010 on our way to another 10 loss season

  • SnB offense defense specialteams

    Brien the General Says:
    August 12th, 2009 at 7:02 pm
    SnB, we dont have a true Nose Tackle and reports say Ron Brace is a muthfugga right now to deal with for the Pats. Could have used him but noooooooooooooo. WE love the buddy system here with Gerard the UT Warren. We are about to get what we deserve ala Snow Job Feb 2002 and the Super Bowl Feb 03
    =======================================================
    Interesting isn’t it. Other than Nnamdi Asomugha…Gerard Warren and Tommy Kelly HAVE NO COMPETITION AT THEIR RESPECTIVE POSITIONS! NONE!

    Some will say its because the Raiders are satisfied with what’s there. In my opinion, its because the interior defensive line is an afterthought to Al Davis. The reason Warren is miscast as an NT is because the Raiders don’t really differentiate between the UT and NT. Their job is all the same…rush the QB. the Raiders haven’t played the run well in a generation!

  • SnB offense defense specialteams

    Brien,

    Also, what do you think about what is transpiring at MLB? Just think Rey Mauluaga was available for a simple trade up. Or how about Jasper Brinkley.

    Nope…instead they tried to convert some tight end from Boise State and brought in an Undrafted Free Agent. Now we find out that they want to “push” Morrison. Sorry folks…Ricky Brown ain’t the competition that will truly push anyone.

  • Brien the General

    SnB it is sad that the NT and UT have the same roles. This is why the run defense shall continue to suck.

    As for MLB…..lol what a joke. Morrison is one dimensional and Ricky Brown is an all guts no talent player. This team is in trouble

  • Terrapin

    I see this has deteriorated back into a healthcare debate. But you guys are getting what I’m saying.

    It doesn’t matter if you are running a private vs public system so long as the incentive structure is out of whack. Switching to a public system does nothing but change the type of entity responsible for paying. The underlying bill will remain largely the same (and keep rising). If you don’t resolve the incentive structure – you won’t resolve anything.

    Tort reform, regulating insurance companies and all of these other arguments only skirt around the edges of a much deeper problem in healthcare. Namely, over-utilization of hospitals and the doctor/patient conundrum.

    As a patient you assume more attention is better. In the perfect world this rings true. But in the medical world – not so fast. More attention cost more money. More attention keeps you in the hospitals where you are suspect to catch other illnesses (ppl are there for a reason – they’re sick) further increasing the cost of cure. But giving you more attention (and recommending things you don’t really need) is how doctors make the bucks. So they over-prescribe remedies and charge higher fees. Milking the system.

  • Terrapin

    But you guys are *NOT* getting what I’m saying.

    Some of you are though (1or2)

  • Richochet

    90210 Says:
    August 12th, 2009 at 4:47 pm
    HALL IS A F’N IDIOT! NOW HE HAS THE BALLS TO TALK SH@T WHEN HE IS NOT AROUND , I BET HE HAD A DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE WHEN HE WAS CASHING THOSE CHECKS. I WISH I RAN IN TO HIM TO KNOCK HIM THE F OUT! F’N PHAG!
    ===================================
    lmao.
    Who are you kidding?

    There are two kind of “badasses”.
    Those who just know they are, and have zero need to mouth off, knowing if need be, they’ll step up

    Then there are the internet tough guys. Who think acting like a badass covers up the fact they likely get slapped around…by their sister.

    Odd how that happens, isn’t it?

    Oh, FYI, Hall was canned. Was signed for big bucks, then canned by the undisputed worst owner in all of sports, ANY SPORT, Al Davis, in the middle of the season, which, actually he was just getting used to the scheme he had never played in prior to the Raiders..so yeah, he had every right to call it like he sees it.

    Incidentially, Aso ALSO STATED IT WAS A BAD MOVE.

    Ok..now..act like an internet tough guy….”GO”

  • Richochet

    Mistabrown Says:
    August 12th, 2009 at 4:56 pm
    Oakglen, you seem to have progressed from just a knuckle headed moronic koolaid drinking troll to a sociopathic loon.

    What happened in your life?
    ======================================
    Interesting anaylsis.

    Insecurity issues mixed in makes him pathetic at best.

    Rather funny watching him get slapped down, where he immediately goes on these little juvenile one sentence rants, mostly pathetic and not well thought out, where he’s hoping for support.

    Oddly most vocal after it’s obvious the poster left…puffing out the hallow chest, stating “boy, he’s lucky he left. I was ready to really give it to him.”

    Called small man syndrome.