Update to come later
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Wednesday, August 12th, 2009 at 2:10 pm in Oakland Raiders.
Will have access to Tom Cable’s press briefing but won’t be able to post it until this evening.
Connection speeds are staggeringly slow at my present location while enjoying one last summer outing with the family . . .
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August 12th, 2009 at 2:12 pm
update to come later????
August 12th, 2009 at 2:13 pm
Fargas + Green = 5-11
August 12th, 2009 at 2:13 pm
that’s like saying:
i just stopped in to let you all know that dinner will be served…
sometime this evening…
August 12th, 2009 at 2:15 pm
Great update . Now I’m informed
August 12th, 2009 at 2:15 pm
Per David White’s Tweetertweetthingy
S Mike Mitchell out with hamstring, DHB good to go and will play a half. So said Tom Cable after a walk-through for Thursday’s game.
1 minute ago from web
If walk-thru alignments are to be believed, Ricky Brown will start at strongside LB vs Cowboys w/Kirk Morrison at MLB.
39 minutes ago from mobile web
Here at the Raiders walkthrough. Everyone in Ts and shorts. Only news will be starting lineups for Thursday.
August 12th, 2009 at 2:16 pm
Repost… i like ti too much to just let it disappear…
702.Florida Pete Says:
August 12th, 2009 at 2:00 pm
Brien the General Says:
August 12th, 2009 at 1:51 pm
I have a great attitude and never complain while playing on a losing squad. I lack vision, hands and overall ability. I can pass block well but I stink at all the other aspects of my position.
Who am I?
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George W Bush
August 12th, 2009 at 2:16 pm
Jerry, what is this “personal life” you speak of?
August 12th, 2009 at 2:17 pm
Raider Dell Says:
August 12th, 2009 at 2:13 pm
what i want is for our head coach to NOT tell the other team that we’re gonna throw it all night…
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Pete are you still mad at lil Kiffie for annoucing his offensive intentions prior to our exhibition game last year with the Arizona Cardinals.
August 12th, 2009 at 2:19 pm
# Florida Pete Says:
August 12th, 2009 at 1:57 pm
Oakglenn Says:
August 12th, 2009 at 1:46 pm
Notice how I emphasize ALL running backs in the league, not just starters, which missed-a-brain missed and confuses into “starting” running backs. Missed-a-brain you are one confused individual who seriously needs to go back to 3rd grade reading class. But don’t worry missed-a-brain, I bet you can see “Germania” from yer house!!
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Oakglenn… i like you and i usually stay out of your stuff…
but…
if you’re gonna say ALL running backs in the league…
and if we can accept that the average number of halfbacks on a team is three…
and your saying Fargas is in the top 30% of ALL of them (implying he is probably not higher than that)…
then you’re saying Fargas is in the bottom 10% of starting halfbacks in the league…
no???
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Exactly! Well done, Pete, as usual. You move to the head of the class!!
August 12th, 2009 at 2:19 pm
Don’t count on anything revealing Thursday night against the ‘Boys since we play them Thanksgiving. Vanilla at best.
August 12th, 2009 at 2:19 pm
UPDATE: Generalissimo Francisco Franco is still dead.
August 12th, 2009 at 2:21 pm
# Raiderwoj Says:
August 12th, 2009 at 2:17 pm
And Fargas’s best carreer stat? 698 att 7TD’s! You don’t win with avgYPR, you need points on the board and Fargas don’t do it
PS career total for receiving TD’s=0
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Ouch! Its MURDER
August 12th, 2009 at 2:21 pm
Sorry To Repost:
# Oakglenn Says:
August 12th, 2009 at 2:17 pm
# Dakota Says:
August 12th, 2009 at 1:49 pm
Oak, I think you might be a little off here. First, yes McFadden fumbled a lot in college, he was in a gimmicky offense plays almost like an option QB. Last year McFadden lost one fumble.
Blocking, well, according to reports Bush and McFadden have been lighting up people in camp, so we’ll see if that argument continues to hold water. (besides, no one has yet to offer me any evidence of a case of McFadden, or Bush for that matter, missing a block that lead to a QB sack)
As to letting those guys start and not earning it…correct me if I am wrong but wasn’t DHB just listed as the starting WR? What has he done to earn a starting job other than scare everyone with dropped passes and being the #7 pick? I guess the Raiders themselves sometimes do what you think is such an awful act…
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Basically Dakota I agree with most of what you have here. mcFadden put the ball on the ground a few times in games even tho he might not have lost them, and more than the coaches wanted to see in practice. Same with Mike.
Regarding blocking, both of them HAVE to get better. I don’t know if you have a copy of the last Discharger game from last year to watch, but Bush came in, The Dischargers blitzed, Bush’s head was spinning like he was a cartoon charachter, Jam got wacked the ball came out, and Bush did not see the field again til the last game of the season. Now you know why.
I really can’t comment on the depth chart put up on the Raiders site. There is a lot of things on the Raiders web site I don’t get, But understand, it is not like I am saying Fargas is Jim Brown and Dmac and Mike are lawrence phillips. One thing I really expect is a LOT more Bush and Dmac this year myself.
August 12th, 2009 at 2:21 pm
Oak,
Ok, my dumb azz figured it out and I’ve modified my draft as well
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Sweet bro! Live draft 7:15pm on Sunday aug 30th. Got it!
9-7!
DRINK IT!
been having technical difi ulties with AZ Raider, so until that’s squared away ration the kool-aid as I will not be availible as much to serve it up.
August 12th, 2009 at 2:21 pm
Lynn,
Since at our best we might be called Vanilla, then what do we call the stuff we put on the field during the preseason?
Do we just stop McFadden from drawing up plays for Cable on the sidelines and call it good?
lol
August 12th, 2009 at 2:22 pm
Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
August 12th, 2009 at 2:19 pm
UPDATE: Generalissimo Francisco Franco is still dead.
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BSJ
This is quite funny and very ironic. I have a client named Franco Francisco. He looks alive to me.
August 12th, 2009 at 2:22 pm
I lack vision, hands and overall ability. I can pass block well but I stink at all the other aspects of my position.
Who am I?
Hellen Keller
August 12th, 2009 at 2:23 pm
# Brien the General Says:
August 12th, 2009 at 2:18 pm
# Silver-n-Smac Says:
August 12th, 2009 at 2:11 pm
Let’s do some math, o.k. Brian?
3.5 + 3.5 + 3.5 = 1st down!
3.5 + 4 yard pass + 3 yard pass = 1st down!
3.5 + 3.5 + 3 yard pass = 1st down!
Tha point is, if your back is averaging 3.5 yards for an entire season, there’s no reason in the world why a team shouldn’t be moving the chains with a half-competent passing game.
And for the record:
Jerome Bettis career yards/rush: 3.9
Marcus Allen career yards/rush: 4.1
Roger Craig career yards/rush: 4.1
Justin Fargas’ career yards/rush: 4.1
And that’s all fine and dandy – at the end of the day, I don’t really care about those stats. You’re either a good football player or you’re not.
And I’ll take Fargas on my team every day of the week.
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Drop the smack immediately my friend. The stats you are putting up are for a dink and dunk offense. Notice alot of Farglass runs especially last year were on 3rd and super long. Dont be confused. Haha you used ypc for guys who could find the endzone. Terrible
August 12th, 2009 at 2:24 pm
I lack vision, hands and overall ability. I can pass block well but I stink at all the other aspects of my position.
Who am I?
Raider Dell drinking to much.
August 12th, 2009 at 2:24 pm
Oak,
Thanks for that example of Bush missing a block…I’ll have to check it out.
August 12th, 2009 at 2:25 pm
# Dakota Says:
August 12th, 2009 at 2:13 pm
Fargas + Green = 5-11
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Sad but true
August 12th, 2009 at 2:25 pm
# Dakota
Probably Fargas up the middle for no gain.
August 12th, 2009 at 2:26 pm
Actually that was Kwame Harris’ fault Oakglenn. I was sitting in the north endzone watching it happen
August 12th, 2009 at 2:26 pm
Dakota
The play OakGlenn was referring to was a pass rush from Shaun Phillips. Bush in baseball was a swinging strike three, boom!
August 12th, 2009 at 2:28 pm
Raiders<——need to draft Terence Cody in 2010
August 12th, 2009 at 2:28 pm
Oh man, as bummed as I am that Fargas and Green are playing, and that Cable is our HC, and that we failed to adequately address the DT and RT positions and maybe the C position in the offseason, I am still so damned excited about the game!!!!
goooo Raiders!
August 12th, 2009 at 2:29 pm
Dell they mad blitzed on that play and the kitchen sink was coming. Did you see Kwame Harris though?
August 12th, 2009 at 2:29 pm
dakota I was excited but not so right now
August 12th, 2009 at 2:30 pm
Jerry had about 4 weeks straight this summer to dillydally with the family, and now he takes a weekday off before our first preseason game?
And the newspaper biz is going down the tubes? Unreal.
August 12th, 2009 at 2:31 pm
Brien
I have tape of the game. I will review it and you may be right as Kwame Harris was the guy that didn’t pass block. I just recall it was Shaun Phillips and it’s been a few months since I watched that game tape.
August 12th, 2009 at 2:32 pm
Bingo. Thank you fellas. Exactly.
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Mistabrown Says:
August 12th, 2009 at 2:10 pm
He has no idea what hes saying. He pulled 30% out of his a$$.
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Actually, no I did not pull that number out of my ass. And notice how Florida Pete did an excpetional job of figuring out what I was saying. Florida Pete, if you wouldn’t mind could you tutor this guy for awhile??? Start with remedial reading, make him sound out the letters, then move on to remedial arithmetic. Just addition and subtraction. Don’t even TRY fractions. In a few years after he has those two subjects down, Then onto Geography, History, and maybe you can get him to work on his personal hygiene.
August 12th, 2009 at 2:32 pm
DVR is set to record the game at 12:00 am MT on NFL Network…I may just watch the first half and then get some sleep….I can’t wait!
Is it Early Friday morning yet???
August 12th, 2009 at 2:32 pm
BSJ
Jerry and I are hittin a local Blues Club together, layoff.
August 12th, 2009 at 2:34 pm
Bo,
Who wins more games this season ND or the Raiders???
August 12th, 2009 at 2:35 pm
Id rather my rbs run and catch than specifically be a good blocker
August 12th, 2009 at 2:35 pm
I hate preseason. Its like that week B4 Xmas as a kid. Its agonizing and seems like forever.
Does anyone care if we win this game??? I almost want us to lose. Seems like the worst you do in Preseason the better you do during the regular season.
If anything Im just happy to see some football on TV.
August 12th, 2009 at 2:36 pm
# Raider Dell Says:
August 12th, 2009 at 2:31 pm
Brien
I have tape of the game. I will review it and you may be right as Kwame Harris was the guy that didn’t pass block. I just recall it was Shaun Phillips and it’s been a few months since I watched that game tape.
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Dell the game in oakland is what i was referring to. Now the game in SD is something different. In Oakland I know it was Phillips, it was the backup to merriroids
August 12th, 2009 at 2:38 pm
Brien<——–praying to see no Javon Walker in 09
August 12th, 2009 at 2:40 pm
damn meant to say wasnt in oakland lol
August 12th, 2009 at 2:42 pm
# Brien the General Says:
August 12th, 2009 at 2:35 pm
Id rather my rbs run and catch than specifically be a good blocker
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Actually Bri, doing all three is being a complete player. Think of having a RB back there that is a poor blocker. On 3rd downs, offensively, you are going to be very limited as to what you can do. If he IS a solid blocker, there is a TON more you can do offensively. Think of guys like Walter Peyton, even Clint Portis, are excellent examples of complete backs.
August 12th, 2009 at 2:42 pm
who wins less games the detroit lions or michigan wolverines?
August 12th, 2009 at 2:43 pm
Thanks, Jerry!!
August 12th, 2009 at 2:43 pm
I lack vision, hands and overall ability. I can pass block well but I stink at all the other aspects of my position.
Who am I?
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My ex-wife.
August 12th, 2009 at 2:44 pm
Oakglenn, so dmac and bush are poor at blocking? I didnt see that. Farglass isnt a complete back becuz he stinks in 2 areas of his game
August 12th, 2009 at 2:45 pm
D. Hall on the Raiders:
“DeAngelo Hall Flames the Raiders, Praises Campbell
DeAngelo Hall hasn’t been shy when talking about the Raiders since he got to D.C., repeatedly telling stories of chaos and dysfunction. But I don’t think he’s been as blunt as he was this morning during an appearance with Colin Cowherd. Speaking calmly and without emotion, Hall just shredded the organization and its owner while explaining why he was happy to be sweating through two-a-days in Ashburn.
This all started when Cowherd referenced Colts center Jeff Saturday and his publicly stated dislike of training camp. Cowherd asked whether Hall felt the same way.
“Nah, not at all,” Hall said. “I’ve made the statement numerous times man, I’m just so excited to be back close to home and back to a team and an organization [where] I feel that we have a chance to win that I wake up ecstatic to go to practice. Jeff over there complaining–and I know Jeff pretty well–Jeff’s over there complaining; Jeff could be playing for the Oakland Raiders or another team that has no shot in hell at doing anything in this league. So Jeff needs to wake up with a smile on his face that he has a Super Bowl ring and he has a team that can compete to try to get another one.
“So I definitely wake up and count my blessings, because I’ve been in that situation where I don’t feel like we could have won a game. So to go to a situation where I feel that we’ve got a chance and we’ve got talent and we’ve got the right people in the front office to make things happen, I wake up with a smile on my face. I can’t wait to get out there and compete and try to get better.”
Hmm. So Oakland is, um, less than excellent?
“You know what, I heard the horror stories,” Hall continued. “Randy [Moss] told me the horror stories, Warren [Sapp] told me the horror stories, and you know, I thought maybe I could go in there and try to change things around and try to put my work ethic out there and get guys to follow. But I’ll tell you what, it starts form the top down, it definitely starts from the top down. And when you have players that can go in there and tell the owner something and he’ll go against the head coach just because he likes the player, you know, that’s when something’s wrong. And until Mr. Davis relinquishes a little bit of that power, I don’t think they’ll ever turn it around. It was definitely a tough place to play and just get guys going. Guys have been used to doing a certain thing for so long, it’s hard to go in and break the mentality.”
And yeah, Hall obviously had a public falling out with the front office, but still, these barbs have points. He sent one final volley when asked about Davis’s role in this whole thing.
“He would sit there every day and watch film of the practice in his office, and if you did something wrong, the coaches would tell you that ‘Mr. Davis didn’t like the way you read this,’ or ‘Mr. Davis didn’t like this coverage so we’re throwing this out,’ or ‘Mr. Davis wants us to do this so this is what we’re gonna do.’ You always got that every morning, because he came in after practice and kind of watched the film.”
Which is why Ashburn seems like paradise, all things considered. Although Hall also isn’t above questioning the local leadership, as when he was asked about Jason Campbell’s offseason.
“I definitely think he can play,” Hall said. “Especially when I was hearing talks about Jay Cutler and Mark Sanchez, I really didn’t understand it. Because you’ve got Mark Sanchez who’s a rookie having to learn a whole new system and go through his lumps, I definitely didn’t understand that. And Jay Cutler basically had one breakout season and now everybody thinks he’s the next Tom Brady or whatever.
“But I was definitely happy with Jason as a quarterback, I definitely thought we needed to put some weapons around him, offensive line, probably another receiver, things like that, just to make his job a little bit easier. And the experience standpoint, him being in the same system for longer than one year is gonna definitely help him grow as a quarterback, and we definitely saw that from the end of last year to now, the growth of him as a quarterback and as a leader of this team.”
He also praised the way Campbell handled the drama, saying that for the QB “to just play the bigger man and just sit there and hear all the talks and see what’s going on behind the scenes, and to still have to come in there to work and put his best foot forward to keep his career going, that’s a tribute to the kind of person and leader he is.”
Which means that Hall’s comments on Michael Vick were, at best, the third-most interesting part of the interview. Heck, I’m not even gonna use those.”
By Dan Steinberg | August 12, 2009; 1:39 PM ET
August 12th, 2009 at 2:45 pm
I love it! Looks like Buster Crabtree may hold out well into September. Meanwhile, our guy is starting tomorrow. Is he any good? At least we’ll get the chance to find out.
August 12th, 2009 at 2:46 pm
Oakglenn forgive me for not being optimistic knowing Farglass will get more carries than either dmac or bush
August 12th, 2009 at 2:50 pm
Wow D. Hall!! You got $8m for 8 games. Why the hate. Mr. Davis didnt make you the last ranked DB in the NFL.
August 12th, 2009 at 2:50 pm
D. Hall ripped off Al Davis for millions of dollars…he should just sit back and laugh instead of kicking dirt in Al’s face…leave that to fans like me…
August 12th, 2009 at 2:50 pm
# Brien the General Says:
August 12th, 2009 at 2:44 pm
Oakglenn, so dmac and bush are poor at blocking? I didnt see that. Farglass isnt a complete back becuz he stinks in 2 areas of his game
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Well, Fargas certainly cannot catch, or at least not well, and I think it’s too early to tell if the two others can develop into excellent or even decent blockers. Physically they can do it, it just requires some pretty fast thinking back there. Personally, I think Dmac and Bush are going to be two pretty special players.
August 12th, 2009 at 2:51 pm
# ottocrat Says:
August 12th, 2009 at 2:45 pm
I love it! Looks like Buster Crabtree may hold out well into September. Meanwhile, our guy is starting tomorrow. Is he any good? At least we’ll get the chance to find out.
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I feel ya bruh. People wanted him and anyone with common sense saw Al would never pick him
August 12th, 2009 at 2:52 pm
Dell,
I do listen to you sir. I stayed up late working on my class schd, and wine up early this morning to go run it by my advisor.
I listen! lol
August 12th, 2009 at 2:54 pm
I agree Dakota. I dont like nobody else talking about my Fam. Its like only I can call my Dad a piece of sh!t…lol
August 12th, 2009 at 2:54 pm
well its been fun. im out yall. may be back later
August 12th, 2009 at 2:55 pm
Raider O
How many units for this semester? Are you able to handle the work load.
August 12th, 2009 at 2:55 pm
*Woke up early. Sorry, but now you know what I’m thinking about!! Wine!
August 12th, 2009 at 2:57 pm
Dakota Says:
August 12th, 2009 at 2:24 pm
Oak,
Thanks for that example of Bush missing a block…I’ll have to check it out.
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lmao
August 12th, 2009 at 2:57 pm
Dakota
Your one funny guy.
August 12th, 2009 at 2:57 pm
Dell,
16 units this semester.
I’m the Lizard King, and I can do anything!
August 12th, 2009 at 2:59 pm
Raider O
Look Lizard King, that’s a lot of time and work. I hope you are successful and still can comment on this blog.
August 12th, 2009 at 3:00 pm
Dell,
-Don’t predict based on the past.
- ” loose lips sink ships”
I listen! lol
August 12th, 2009 at 3:02 pm
Raider O
You’re making me blush with joy.
Many traits to live by, and to be successful they must be part of your behavior, with some discipline also.
August 12th, 2009 at 3:04 pm
Raider O
You gotta play the Kool-aid pimp week 1. Good luck to you sir… Hahahahahahahahahahahahah!
August 12th, 2009 at 3:05 pm
Dell,
I took 2 GE classes, and only 3 major classes. That should make it easy, and I’m starting to study now, so I can be ahead.
If I want it, I can make it happen. I’m young so I can take the stress and extra work, but this will help me live better the rest of my life.
August 12th, 2009 at 3:07 pm
Dakota Says:
August 12th, 2009 at 2:50 pm
D. Hall ripped off Al Davis for millions of dollars…he should just sit back and laugh instead of kicking dirt in Al’s face…leave that to fans like me…
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You’re killing me Dakota!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
August 12th, 2009 at 3:08 pm
Raider O (The Lizard King)
Depending on what career route you get into, the financial business is very stressful. (Note to the Lizard King). Raider Dell needed a six week vacation to unwind, from this economy this past year.
Handling stress is part of the job, just don’t let it break you down.
August 12th, 2009 at 3:08 pm
Dell,
I appreciate the fact that you care and give me advise, so I listen.
Hard to find people who care and want to help with no personal agendas. IMHO
AZ,
LMAO 9-7 baby!! Drink it!
August 12th, 2009 at 3:09 pm
weedhopper =)
August 12th, 2009 at 3:10 pm
Dakota
Are you still on this blog?
August 12th, 2009 at 3:13 pm
Dell,
Life is full if stress, but how you handle it makes a diff. IMO
I’ve been more stressed before and I had less on my plate. I feel that I’ve reached my optimal point of operation. I feel like I can do anything.
August 12th, 2009 at 3:17 pm
Is Mitchell going to play tomorrow?
August 12th, 2009 at 3:23 pm
Colon Cowturd forgot to ask MeAngelo how guilty he felt cashing all those checks with Davis’ signature…
then he should have asked him how he felt when a rookie burned him 13 times in the first game of the year…
and then he should have asked him how he felt when one of the worst teams in the league last year cut him and said:
“Please God, get this mother fuqqer out of here !!!”
August 12th, 2009 at 3:24 pm
Florida Pete Says:
August 12th, 2009 at 3:23 pm
Colon Cowturd forgot to ask MeAngelo how guilty he felt cashing all those checks with Davis’ signature…
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Is that really the point, Pete?
August 12th, 2009 at 3:26 pm
My sources tell me that John Herrera has this quote framed and hung in his office:
“By the skillful and sustained use of propaganda, one can make a people see even heaven as hell or an extremely wretched life as paradise.” Adolf Hitler.
August 12th, 2009 at 3:27 pm
Pretty tough lango from DHall there. A lot is likely true. Some may be just bitterness. Lets face it, Hall embarrassed himself when playing for Oakland. He just showed the world how great Nnamdi is.
We all know Al Davis opines heavily on the defense – that’s his forte. So that comes as no surprise. We just need the coach that aren’t afraid to stand up to Davis if he’s advising on things that won’t work; instead of just shoveling the crap downstream.
August 12th, 2009 at 3:28 pm
bydavidwhite: S Mike Mitchell out with hamstring, DHB good to go and will play a half. So said Tom Cable after a walk-through for Thursday’s game.
August 12th, 2009 at 3:29 pm
Dell,
I’ll be back later, it’s time for my late lunch.
Later Nation.
August 12th, 2009 at 3:30 pm
Ima Dmac fan as we all know… But I don’t understand the complete hate for justin fargas??? I think people get caught up in the potential that dmac and bush holds, but even with their potential that doesn’t mean fargas is a bad back. When I think of fargas I think of a player who started only eight games in that 07-08 season and rushed for 1000 yrds. I see a player who ran for 179yrds against a defense that consisted of zach thomas, joey porter, and jason taylor in one half. I see a player who forced the ousting of lamont jordan and dominic rhodes who didn’t play half bad and put up numbers against a discharger team that constantly kicks our ass. I see a player who even after coming off a 1000 yard season in just 8 games of starting recieve an most honored player award, resign, take a pay cut, and not complain, even though he’s on a losing team. Then after his good season watch the team pick another hb first round and still not complain. Micheal bush is on the team because we got him at a bargain price in the fifth round.
My point is justin fargas is a team player, he plays hard, runs hard and hasn’t complained even though we haven’t been the best of team while he has shown he is a pretty good player (not great but good). Bush nor mcfadden has run for 1000 yrds in a season, but justin has. Yes dmac ran for 164 against the chiefs, bush hit the 179 mark against the bucs, but don’t forget justin has had some good games also (07 cheifs, dolphins). When he has been the main focus he has proven he can carry the load if the line abnd others do their part. He’s maybe not the fastest nor strongest at breaking tackles but the guys not as horrible as people on here portray. I like justin fargas because hes truly a raider, and if half the players on the team had the passion he has for this team we’d hardly ever lose. And as much as I hate to say it if and when dmac or bush put up great numbers I bet you you will hear talks of a holdout as compared to fargas who in 8 games put up a rack and didn’t ask for one extra red cent.
August 12th, 2009 at 3:31 pm
And when you have players that can go in there and tell the owner something and he’ll go against the head coach just because he likes the player, you know, that’s when something’s wrong.
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Wait….wasn’t Hall the one that said it’s nice to be able to go straight to the owner to discuss things? I’ll have to find the quote…
August 12th, 2009 at 3:32 pm
“We all know Al Davis opines heavily on the defense – that’s his forte. So that comes as no surprise. We just need the coach that aren’t afraid to stand up to Davis if he’s advising on things that won’t work; instead of just shoveling the crap downstream.”
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His “Forte”, lol, Yikes
Whatare coaches supposed to do, keep their job, or tell Davis to fuk off?
August 12th, 2009 at 3:32 pm
Thx Woj! Too bad, I really wanted to watch him hit.
Later Nation.
August 12th, 2009 at 3:33 pm
Still here Dell, what is up?
August 12th, 2009 at 3:34 pm
Just pouring some gas on the fire:
“Justin Fargas, Darren McFadden and Michael Bush will all play in the first half as Cable initiates his plan to use ALL THREE backs in THE SAME GAME PLAN.”—David White sfgate.
Mitchell, out with “strained” hamstring.—bummer.
August 12th, 2009 at 3:35 pm
I almost forgot:
4eva,
LMAO @ 68.
August 12th, 2009 at 3:39 pm
Dmac20,
my biggest problem with Fargas is this stat, TD’s. 698 career attempts, 7td’s, NO receiving TD’s. Against miami 179yds, NO TD’s. He’s a good back 1000yd rusher, but he is not and should not be a starter. And it wouldn’t be as bad if we had another back that got all the goalline carries and TD’s from him, but we didn’t. YOU GOTTA SCORE POINTS TO WIN!
August 12th, 2009 at 3:41 pm
I’m not worried about Fargas stepping on Dmac’s touches. I’m worried about Fargas taking snaps way from Bush.
August 12th, 2009 at 3:41 pm
Angelo Hall
Huh , Isn’t this the guy who said with Nnamdi they would be the best DB tandem in the league? Nnamdi kept his side of the of the boast but what happened to Hall?
Elvis Patterson comes to mind when thinking about Angelo Hall ……….Toast.
August 12th, 2009 at 3:42 pm
Dakota
Just wanted to know if the super model wife is eating well and is doing fine.
I’m going to get some work done, I’ll catch you later.
August 12th, 2009 at 3:43 pm
All progressing well Dell.
August 12th, 2009 at 3:44 pm
Bush should start. He’s a bruiser, knows how to throw a good stiffarm, and break tackles.
August 12th, 2009 at 3:45 pm
Dakota
A little late for you tonight.
August 12th, 2009 at 3:48 pm
Dakota
Should I go see GI JOE, what’s your take.
I’ll take your answer off the air.
Later.
August 12th, 2009 at 3:48 pm
20 backs had more Td’s last season than Fargas has had in his career, not counting 1’s with 7(4). Still think he should be starting?
and yes i’m gonna beat the dead horse.
KK, I am worried about the same thing.
August 12th, 2009 at 3:49 pm
Enough with Fargas already .
We need to focus on the full back position.
That is the catalyst to the running game.
How Oneil and Neal perform dictates how we fair running the ball.
August 12th, 2009 at 3:54 pm
The Big Banana Says:
August 12th, 2009 at 3:44 pm
Bush should start. He’s a bruiser, knows how to throw a good stiffarm, and break tackles.
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I agree, a healthy dose of Mr. Bush to start games off should get the D-lines banged up a bit before “DMAN” comes in and punches a hole in their hearts! LOL
August 12th, 2009 at 3:55 pm
Dakota, aren’t you a small-business employer?
Don’t you wanna get health care off your back?
August 12th, 2009 at 3:56 pm
7 minutes till I close up shop…
August 12th, 2009 at 3:59 pm
Dell,
Rent it…unless you are taking someone 12-15 years old…my son liked it…
August 12th, 2009 at 4:02 pm
My lady friend went to see GI JOE and said it was pretty gay… She HATES GI JOE too! Said her and her friend went but I bet she was with another dude.
AZ don’t care though, he’s tired of that flavor anyway…
August 12th, 2009 at 4:07 pm
Fargas is the problem.
He is awful.
That fact that some people here are defending him, is astonishing to me.
August 12th, 2009 at 4:08 pm
Koolkell,
Do you really believe that 1) this health care reform will “only” cost 1.2 trillion to 1.5 trillion and, 2) that it will not increase the federal deficit and 3) that middle class taxes will not be raised to pay for it?
If you believe all of those things, I have a mountain carved with the faces of 4 presidents to sell you.
Regulate the insurance companies, tort reform, and work on making hospitals and doctors more efficient…try that first before driving this nation further into debt…
August 12th, 2009 at 4:08 pm
If you were really into GI Joe as a kid, then it is worth it just to see it on the big screen. If you never played with the toys, didn’t read the comics, or don’t have a kid, wait for it to come out on HBO.
August 12th, 2009 at 4:09 pm
Later KK.
August 12th, 2009 at 4:11 pm
Don’t try to repaint history weren’t the Dolphins 1-15 in 07
August 12th, 2009 at 4:14 pm
Ha ha ha! Democrat Senator McCaskill said dealing with the redneck hecklers at her townhall was like babysitting her kids. The mobs aren’t even being recognized as adults, let alone concerned citizens. Serves them right.
August 12th, 2009 at 4:15 pm
I actually think something needs to be done about the hospitals. The insurance companies are getting “hit” hard by these hospitals.
Just went with wifey for the baby checkup, and the Dr ordered 2 ultra sounds, prescribed some sickness meds, and some other crap. The ultra sounds were the exact same thing, maybe a few more snap shots, and the pills don’t work.
Meanwhile the bills keep coming in for that, and we send them right over to the insurance file. Easily $500 bucks that we, errr the ins co’s, didn’t have to spend, and times that by how many ladies were in the waiting room?
What a joke!
August 12th, 2009 at 4:15 pm
Sometimes I think ppl just need something to complain about. Ya’ll still on Fargas? WHO CARES!! if he’s listed as the starter. Its a PRESEASON depth cart. Second, EVERYBODY knows that they intended on getting DMC much more involved …getting him many more balls. So this matters none! Why fret over it?
August 12th, 2009 at 4:18 pm
Terrapin, if Garcia was listed as a starter, you’d be cool with it? Just a preseason depth chart?
August 12th, 2009 at 4:20 pm
What’s up with all of the recneck hecklers shaking when they speak? I thought these guys were tough? How are they going to start a revolution when they can’t even confront Arlen Spector without quivering?
August 12th, 2009 at 4:20 pm
Terrapin – Are you complaining about others complaining?
August 12th, 2009 at 4:21 pm
No, Terrapin’s spinning Fargas’s spot on the depth chart, as if he wouldn’t be throwing a fit if the Raiders released a depth chart today that had Garcia on top of the QB list.
August 12th, 2009 at 4:22 pm
Dakota
I was only talking about you, as a possible small business owner, having to provide health care for your employees.
August 12th, 2009 at 4:22 pm
Jhill – BINGO!! The source of the problem (rising cost) is not the Type of system being ran, public vs private. Its lies smack dab between the doctors and the patience.
The incentive structure in hospital is all screwed up! The more they recommend, the more they get paid! In general, they barely even communicate with other doctors regarding the mutual patient.
Most of the arguments are frivolous. Sure they may have some merit but they miss the entire issue at hand.
Think about what an insurance company does. An insurance company sees the costs, they model to the cost to make a profit, and the charge the policy holder that fee. So in essence, all an insurance company is is a pass-through entity. Passing a portion of the cost onto the patient. If the cost rise – The premium rise in kind to maintain the profit margin.
*******OK, I’ll try to make that my 1st and last political opine for the day********
August 12th, 2009 at 4:24 pm
If Garcia was listed as the starter I would think the team is either INSANE or something is wrong with JR (development or otherwise).
August 12th, 2009 at 4:25 pm
But being listed as the starter vs actually being the starter (or person who plays the most) is 2 different things
August 12th, 2009 at 4:29 pm
Terrapin, but it would just be a preseason depth chart! It’s only the pre season! Why would you care? You’re telling people not to worry about Fargas’s spot on the depth chart, but now you’re admitting you would flip if Garcia was listed as starting QB. Why is it ok for you to be critical of the depth chart?
August 12th, 2009 at 4:29 pm
On other teams, the teams best RB would be the starter. On the Raiders, the 3rd string RB is the starter. Nothing weird about that.
August 12th, 2009 at 4:31 pm
Any one of you “fans” want to pop in on our tailgate,..we will be in D lot,..lots of alcohol,..pot,..some pills I assume of some sort,..lots of bar b q,…and will will be blarin classic metal….all you “fans” are welcome.
August 12th, 2009 at 4:31 pm
Well, our depth chart is put together daily by an 80 year old man. You can’t be surprised when it looks so.
August 12th, 2009 at 4:32 pm
I’ll be at the tailgate, Norco. I’m tired of being a loser. I’m going to go to your tailgate and be a winner.
August 12th, 2009 at 4:32 pm
I voted for Bush…
Michael Bush that is…. Hehahahaha!
9-7!
JAVON WALKER COMEBACK PLAYER OF THE YEAR!
53 MEN, COUNTLESS FANS, ONE PURPOSE!
DRINK UP NATION!
August 12th, 2009 at 4:33 pm
You totally missed the other side of what I said. I said I would be worried about what going on with JR. Is he maturing enough? Is he a bust and they’ve given up on him?
Still, I’m not ridiculing Garcia in that scenario. If he’s the starter then he must’ve earned it until JR takes it from him.
It may not sit well with my wishful vision of the Raiders progression; but I’m not downing Garcia for it like you guys are downing Fargas.
August 12th, 2009 at 4:33 pm
KoolKell Says:
August 12th, 2009 at 3:24 pm
Florida Pete Says:
August 12th, 2009 at 3:23 pm
Colon Cowturd forgot to ask MeAngelo how guilty he felt cashing all those checks with Davis’ signature…
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Is that really the point, Pete?
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KK… tell me something… you ever work with a guy that was hired to do a job because he said and everyone else said he was great???
and he hired in at top pay???
and then it turns out that you damn near need to dress him and show him how to do his job???
and then he sits there screwing everything up and instead of blaming himself… he blames everyone else???
and then when the useless fuqq is finally fired… he spends his time telling everyone at his new job just how screwed up you are, and everyone else is, at your shop???
now…
you asked me what’s the point…
DeAngelo Hall should be sitting on Warren Sapp’s lap saying, “they hurt me daddy, they hurt my feelings…” at Sapp’s next interview…
August 12th, 2009 at 4:34 pm
It really sucks that the Raiders will be on tape delay. My brother will be able to watch the game in Redding. Luck bast3rd.
August 12th, 2009 at 4:37 pm
russell has been sacked a good bit in practice fargus is the best rb blocker on the team thats why he is out there with the starters
August 12th, 2009 at 4:38 pm
The important thing is…Fargas can block. I mean sh!t. We should just put a lineman at HB. They can block too. In fact, that might we a great idea afterall. If you’re concerned with your QB getting hit, having a lineman blocking for you in the backfield makes a ton of sense. Maybe Larry Allen will come out of retirement? He benches 700 lbs.
August 12th, 2009 at 4:42 pm
I have no idea why we drafted McFadden. All he can do is run faster than everyone else, get into the open field, has great visin, runs through the tackles, catches the ball and opens up other options for the offense. His versatility doesn’t need to be on the field. We really should have drafted the best blocking RB to ever play the game. That would have made more sense for this team.
August 12th, 2009 at 4:46 pm
MR we would rather not have you there,..you are really a negative person,..Raider games, tailgating is all about having a good time,..you are generally a miserable person,..and we dont have enough booze and pot and pills to put up with a downer like you,..sorry man.
August 12th, 2009 at 4:47 pm
HALL IS A F’N IDIOT! NOW HE HAS THE BALLS TO TALK SH@T WHEN HE IS NOT AROUND , I BET HE HAD A DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE WHEN HE WAS CASHING THOSE CHECKS. I WISH I RAN IN TO HIM TO KNOCK HIM THE F OUT! F’N PHAG!
August 12th, 2009 at 4:48 pm
Norco Bob Says:
August 12th, 2009 at 4:46 pm
MR we would rather not have you there,..you are really a negative person,..Raider games, tailgating is all about having a good time,..you are generally a miserable person,..and we dont have enough booze and pot and pills to put up with a downer like you,..sorry man.
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rolling on the floor, laughing my fuqqing ass off…
August 12th, 2009 at 4:52 pm
# Norco Bob Says:
August 12th, 2009 at 4:46 pm
MR we would rather not have you there,..you are really a negative person,..Raider games, tailgating is all about having a good time,..you are generally a miserable person,..and we dont have enough booze and pot and pills to put up with a downer like you,..sorry man.
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Hahahaha. Best put down of the day. Even if you had a tank of Nitrous Bob, MR showing up would make it go from laughing gas to frowny gas.
August 12th, 2009 at 4:55 pm
# The Real MaddenRaider Says:
August 12th, 2009 at 4:18 pm
Terrapin, if Garcia was listed as a starter, you’d be cool with it? Just a preseason depth chart?
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Terp don’t let him bother you with those idiotic statements. He is only saying that because he has a poster of Garcia on his bedroom wall. And of course one above his bed.
August 12th, 2009 at 4:55 pm
Or maybe fixing Medicaid first. Something the Govt has already ran into the ground! Not to mention the Post Office, DMV, cash for clunkers.
# Dakota Says:
August 12th, 2009 at 4:08 pm
Koolkell,
Do you really believe that 1) this health care reform will “only” cost 1.2 trillion to 1.5 trillion and, 2) that it will not increase the federal deficit and 3) that middle class taxes will not be raised to pay for it?
If you believe all of those things, I have a mountain carved with the faces of 4 presidents to sell you.
Regulate the insurance companies, tort reform, and work on making hospitals and doctors more efficient…try that first before driving this nation further into debt…
August 12th, 2009 at 4:56 pm
awww the games gonna be on delay??? Shoot radio it is then.lol
August 12th, 2009 at 4:56 pm
Oakglen, you seem to have progressed from just a knuckle headed moronic koolaid drinking troll to a sociopathic loon.
What happened in your life?
August 12th, 2009 at 4:58 pm
Norco Bob….#128.
Bada Bing….
August 12th, 2009 at 4:59 pm
what flavor is da kool aid ?
August 12th, 2009 at 5:00 pm
138th!!
August 12th, 2009 at 5:04 pm
Mistabrown
You come off as a ant-govt crank. Black Helicopters circling, socialists creeping loon.
Strictly a brainwashed Pavlovian dog.
August 12th, 2009 at 5:06 pm
From the sounds of it…theres alot of screwed up people on this blog. Haha.
August 12th, 2009 at 5:08 pm
Doriangray – The flavor of the Kool Aid is bitter until there are enough wins to satisfy my thirst. The thought of having a good team doesn’t compare to actually having a good team.
August 12th, 2009 at 5:12 pm
Kool you support this current government?…what have they done to deserve supporting?…Im not supporting it and for what its worth I havent supported the government in about 20 years or so,..I support this country,..but f*ck this government.
August 12th, 2009 at 5:14 pm
“Bills, ’sniffing around’ for back up Quarterback.”—pft.com
Stay away from BSJ’s boy, Southwick!
August 12th, 2009 at 5:15 pm
Norco Bob
I’m damned sure not going to discuss politics with you. lol
August 12th, 2009 at 5:17 pm
• Dmac20 Says:
August 12th, 2009 at 3:30 pm
Ima Dmac fan as we all know… But I don’t understand the complete hate for justin fargas??? I think people get caught up in the potential that dmac and bush holds, but even with their potential that doesn’t mean fargas is a bad back. When I think of fargas I think of a player who started only eight games in that 07-08 season and rushed for 1000 yrds. I see a player who ran for 179yrds against a defense that consisted of zach thomas, joey porter, and jason taylor in one half. I see a player who forced the ousting of lamont jordan and dominic rhodes who didn’t play half bad and put up numbers against a discharger team that constantly kicks our ass. I see a player who even after coming off a 1000 yard season in just 8 games of starting recieve an most honored player award, resign, take a pay cut, and not complain, even though he’s on a losing team. Then after his good season watch the team pick another hb first round and still not complain. Micheal bush is on the team because we got him at a bargain price in the fifth round.
My point is justin fargas is a team player, he plays hard, runs hard and hasn’t complained even though we haven’t been the best of team while he has shown he is a pretty good player (not great but good). Bush nor mcfadden has run for 1000 yrds in a season, but justin has. Yes dmac ran for 164 against the chiefs, bush hit the 179 mark against the bucs, but don’t forget justin has had some good games also (07 cheifs, dolphins). When he has been the main focus he has proven he can carry the load if the line abnd others do their part. He’s maybe not the fastest nor strongest at breaking tackles but the guys not as horrible as people on here portray. I like justin fargas because hes truly a raider, and if half the players on the team had the passion he has for this team we’d hardly ever lose. And as much as I hate to say it if and when dmac or bush put up great numbers I bet you you will hear talks of a holdout as compared to fargas who in 8 games put up a rack and didn’t ask for one extra red cent.
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That was stated so perfectly. I’ve been arguing with some of these clowns all day long and never quite put it in as organized a manner as you.
All I know is that Justin Fargas IS ROCKY BALBOA baby!
And I want Rocky on my team all day long! You can’t replace heart.
As for the small number of TD’s that he has, I honestly believe it’s bad coincidence.
Thank about it. How many times has he been handed the ball in a goal line situation over the past few years? Not a whole lot. And when he has, our offensive line has been so bad and the offense has been so inept, that he hasn’t had much chance.
McFadden’s & Bush’s TD’s primarily came from break-away runs. You don’t base your decision on a running back by only by his break-away threat. I want a ball carrier that’s consistently getting me the tough yards and moving the chains.
That’s Fargas. . . . .in my opinion.
August 12th, 2009 at 5:18 pm
The current prez is a gutless puppet,..the prior prez was more then likely retarded,..the prior to that was a compulsive liar,…last decent prez was,…um,..get back to you on that.
August 12th, 2009 at 5:18 pm
Highlights from just this morning:
# 4evaRaider Says:
August 12th, 2009 at 10:15 am
Mista Clearly I understand why you cant see the world around you,it’s because you have so much sh!t in your eyes from having your haed soo far up your azz =)
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Silver-n-Black666 Says:
August 12th, 2009 at 10:34 am
OMG is he serious LMFAO!!
MistaBrownNoser is one dumb hillbilly.
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# Silver-n-Black666 Says:
August 12th, 2009 at 10:37 am
MistaBrownNoser
Just admit it….IT HURTS because you lost and your bitter.
Go back to your right wing militia compound in Idaho and stock pile weapons then sheepishly prognosticate the end of times as GW would have you do.
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# jhill Says:
August 12th, 2009 at 10:46 am
Mista ..
CMon man, are you really telling me that Bush didn’t use 911 terrorist attacks, or should I say the national paranoya(sp) it caused to go into Iraq, or the so called war on Terror? The whole war on terror umbrella made the Bush team ridiculous $.
For you to even try and rationalize differently is the funny stuff I was referring to. It’s like the parent of a criminal … “That’s my baby!”
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good to see missed=a-brain making new friends in here. LMAO. Now, stay out the fast lane, missedabrain.
August 12th, 2009 at 5:19 pm
no tape delay here so i’m good. f dhall cant wait till chazz lights him up.the worst db performance ever was him against royal opening night last yr. damn count me in as disappointed 4 having fargas start although its the 1st preseason gm.depth chart is troublesome with glaring needs at rt.,dt.,s., is o-line really getting tested in camp? only proven pass rusher is ellis who is thirty-what? lets keep an eye on the waiver line or trade those extra picks we got.
August 12th, 2009 at 5:20 pm
As for the fullback position,
I’m a huge Oren O’Neil fan. Before he got hurt, I really felt he was primed and ready to be the best fullback in football.
If he’s really healed up, I don’t think it will be long before he un-seats Lorenzo.
Don’t get me wrong – Lorenzo is equally a beast, but, I think Oren’s legs are a lot more fresh. And they’ve got the same bully body type.
Either way – Our already-good running game is going to kick some ass this year.
August 12th, 2009 at 5:21 pm
# KoolKell Says:
August 12th, 2009 at 5:04 pm
Mistabrown
You come off as a ant-govt crank. Black Helicopters circling, socialists creeping loon.
Strictly a brainwashed Pavlovian dog.
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Actually I thought he came off more as “one dumb Hillbilly” as 666 said, sitting alone in his unibomber style cabin in the woods, sniffing glue, and railing against everything, other than Rush Limbaugh.
August 12th, 2009 at 5:22 pm
They tape delay the preseason games in bay area?…Im in Sac,..its on live.
August 12th, 2009 at 5:24 pm
Norco
You say this blog is full of losers. Why do you hang out here?
August 12th, 2009 at 5:32 pm
Because not all are losers, just most, Im here to talk football with the non losers,..by the way kool, why do you give a f*ck why I come here,..I sure dont give a f*ck about why you are here.
August 12th, 2009 at 5:35 pm
# Dakota Says:
August 12th, 2009 at 4:08 pm
Regulate the insurance companies, tort reform, and work on making hospitals and doctors more efficient…try that first before driving this nation further into debt…
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each and every one of these are excellent ideas…
it’s too bad the “Party of No” didn’t think of them when they had all the beef…
you guys had your chance…
all the things republicans are whining about now are the very same things you folks refused to acknowledge when your people were in power…
personally, i think it’s time for the Republicans to sit down… you guys had your say for the past 8 years…
time to shut up…
August 12th, 2009 at 5:37 pm
f politics
August 12th, 2009 at 5:37 pm
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August 12th, 2009 at 5:38 pm
# Dakota Says:
August 12th, 2009 at 4:08 pm
Koolkell,
Do you really believe that 1) this health care reform will “only” cost 1.2 trillion to 1.5 trillion and, 2) that it will not increase the federal deficit and 3) that middle class taxes will not be raised to pay for it?
If you believe all of those things, I have a mountain carved with the faces of 4 presidents to sell you.
Regulate the insurance companies, tort reform, and work on making hospitals and doctors more efficient…try that first before driving this nation further into debt…
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Dakota we don’t have a choice. Healthcare is bankrupting this country at an incredible rate that is going to get much worse very soon. Anyone who does not want some type of nationalized system I always say the same thing: Let’s go right now, down to the Alameda County Hospital. If you walked in the front door of that hospital, and thought our health care system was fine, they would commit you to the loony bin. Regulating insurance, tort reform and trying to make the systems more efficient is not going to solve a complete crisis in utter meltdown mode. The rest of the world has done it, they seem to be OK with it, we now have to. We don’t have a choice really.
August 12th, 2009 at 5:41 pm
Just wondering.
August 12th, 2009 at 5:54 pm
KK,
I dont know what that psychobabble is. Im for smaller govt, low taxes, low spending, less regulation, strong military. I’ll support any party who stands for that. The DEMS will never get close, not my fault.
# KoolKell Says:
August 12th, 2009 at 5:04 pm
Mistabrown
You come off as a ant-govt crank. Black Helicopters circling, socialists creeping loon.
Strictly a brainwashed Pavlovian dog.
August 12th, 2009 at 5:56 pm
Oakglen, i’ll be looking for you tomorrow night. Are you wearing your traditional Barney Frank jersey with bermuda shorts and black socks ?
August 12th, 2009 at 5:57 pm
# Norco Bob Says:
August 12th, 2009 at 5:18 pm
The current prez is a gutless puppet,..the prior prez was more then likely retarded,..the prior to that was a compulsive liar,…last decent prez was,…um,..get back to you on that.
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Exactly
August 12th, 2009 at 5:59 pm
# Silver-n-Smac Says:
August 12th, 2009 at 5:17 pm
• Dmac20 Says:
August 12th, 2009 at 3:30 pm
Ima Dmac fan as we all know… But I don’t understand the complete hate for justin fargas??? I think people get caught up in the potential that dmac and bush holds, but even with their potential that doesn’t mean fargas is a bad back. When I think of fargas I think of a player who started only eight games in that 07-08 season and rushed for 1000 yrds. I see a player who ran for 179yrds against a defense that consisted of zach thomas, joey porter, and jason taylor in one half. I see a player who forced the ousting of lamont jordan and dominic rhodes who didn’t play half bad and put up numbers against a discharger team that constantly kicks our ass. I see a player who even after coming off a 1000 yard season in just 8 games of starting recieve an most honored player award, resign, take a pay cut, and not complain, even though he’s on a losing team. Then after his good season watch the team pick another hb first round and still not complain. Micheal bush is on the team because we got him at a bargain price in the fifth round.
My point is justin fargas is a team player, he plays hard, runs hard and hasn’t complained even though we haven’t been the best of team while he has shown he is a pretty good player (not great but good). Bush nor mcfadden has run for 1000 yrds in a season, but justin has. Yes dmac ran for 164 against the chiefs, bush hit the 179 mark against the bucs, but don’t forget justin has had some good games also (07 cheifs, dolphins). When he has been the main focus he has proven he can carry the load if the line abnd others do their part. He’s maybe not the fastest nor strongest at breaking tackles but the guys not as horrible as people on here portray. I like justin fargas because hes truly a raider, and if half the players on the team had the passion he has for this team we’d hardly ever lose. And as much as I hate to say it if and when dmac or bush put up great numbers I bet you you will hear talks of a holdout as compared to fargas who in 8 games put up a rack and didn’t ask for one extra red cent.
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That was stated so perfectly. I’ve been arguing with some of these clowns all day long and never quite put it in as organized a manner as you.
All I know is that Justin Fargas IS ROCKY BALBOA baby!
And I want Rocky on my team all day long! You can’t replace heart.
As for the small number of TD’s that he has, I honestly believe it’s bad coincidence.
Thank about it. How many times has he been handed the ball in a goal line situation over the past few years? Not a whole lot. And when he has, our offensive line has been so bad and the offense has been so inept, that he hasn’t had much chance.
McFadden’s & Bush’s TD’s primarily came from break-away runs. You don’t base your decision on a running back by only by his break-away threat. I want a ball carrier that’s consistently getting me the tough yards and moving the chains.
That’s Fargas. . . . .in my opinion.
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I get it now. You want a fairy tale not reality. You know that movie was based on a slow balding bastard named Chuck Wepner who was praised for taking an ass whipping all night from Muhammad Ali. Yeah have your false Rocky story
August 12th, 2009 at 6:01 pm
Thanks for thinkin of us Jerry! Hope you and the fambily are having a really good time!~
August 12th, 2009 at 6:02 pm
909RaiderLifer Says:
August 12th, 2009 at 3:34 pm
Just pouring some gas on the fire:
“Justin Fargas, Darren McFadden and Michael Bush will all play in the first half as Cable initiates his plan to use ALL THREE backs in THE SAME GAME PLAN.”—David White sfgate.
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This is a fuking joke
August 12th, 2009 at 6:03 pm
Guys we are nothing different than the detroit lions. We drafted WRs in back to back years. Great job
August 12th, 2009 at 6:05 pm
Socialized health care?!?!?!
WTF! I suppose next they’ll want to socialize police protection, schools, firefighting, road construction & maintenance, the military, the space program, social security, the judicial system and on and on and on.
I’m outraged. I’m going to go to a town hall meeting where people are discussing health care and shout down my congressman and act like a total ignorant jackazz. Who’s with me?
Not to mention Obama was born outside the U.S. in an Indonesian opium den! It’s true. Lou Dobbs was there high off his azz and he’s a first-hand witness!!!
August 12th, 2009 at 6:05 pm
I got the gameplan Cable in the regular season……………Fargas 24 carries 68 yards 0 tds, Dmac 9 carries 50 yards 5 rec 45 yards 0 tds, Bush DNP. This is championship football
August 12th, 2009 at 6:06 pm
Why did Al Davis draft DMAC and Bush if Fargas was so dominating?
At the time of the draft, I wanted them to get Sedrick Ellis or Glenn Dorsey because I felt Bush and Fargas was enough to move on with.
But Al Davis DOES NOT BELIEVE Fargas is the answer. That’s why the Raiders kept Fargas on the bench until LAMONT freekn JORDON got hurt. Y’all hearing this. Fargas got no playing time until Lamont Jordon got hurt. THEN…Davis proceeds to draft TWO running backs that were 1st round talents.
Now that we got the new players…we are INSISTENT on setting up an unworkable 3-man rotation! No sense.,
The Raiders collect these athletes like a packrat collect knick-knacks at the Flea Market. Just collects things and don’t use them because of a sentimental attachment to what’s old.
If Fargas beats out Bush or DMAC…then trade one of those two and get some value before they jet in free agency!!!!!!!
August 12th, 2009 at 6:07 pm
# Chris in NY Says:
August 12th, 2009 at 6:05 pm
Socialized health care?!?!?!
WTF! I suppose next they’ll want to socialize police protection, schools, firefighting, road construction & maintenance, the military, the space program, social security, the judicial system and on and on and on.
I’m outraged. I’m going to go to a town hall meeting where people are discussing health care and shout down my congressman and act like a total ignorant jackazz. Who’s with me?
Not to mention Obama was born outside the U.S. in an Indonesian opium den! It’s true. Lou Dobbs was there high off his azz and he’s a first-hand witness!!!
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Socialism is awesome as long as your have a mixed heritage guy selling it. You know that the obama administration will take down the names of people who are against the plan right?
I dont know where Obama was born but the story doesnt match at all. Go look up when his mom was enrolled at Uni of Wash and when she supposedly conceived Barry. Something is wrong
August 12th, 2009 at 6:09 pm
# SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
August 12th, 2009 at 6:06 pm
Why did Al Davis draft DMAC and Bush if Fargas was so dominating?
At the time of the draft, I wanted them to get Sedrick Ellis or Glenn Dorsey because I felt Bush and Fargas was enough to move on with.
But Al Davis DOES NOT BELIEVE Fargas is the answer. That’s why the Raiders kept Fargas on the bench until LAMONT freekn JORDON got hurt. Y’all hearing this. Fargas got no playing time until Lamont Jordon got hurt. THEN…Davis proceeds to draft TWO running backs that were 1st round talents.
Now that we got the new players…we are INSISTENT on setting up an unworkable 3-man rotation! No sense.,
The Raiders collect these athletes like a packrat collect knick-knacks at the Flea Market. Just collects things and don’t use them because of a sentimental attachment to what’s old.
If Fargas beats out Bush or DMAC…then trade one of those two and get some value before they jet in free agency!!!!!!!
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I say fuk it, shut down the whole operation. Trade all the more talented players and play the ones who lack talent but play hard
August 12th, 2009 at 6:09 pm
Mistabrown Says:
August 12th, 2009 at 5:54 pm
KK,
I dont know what that psychobabble is. Im for smaller govt, low taxes, low spending, less regulation, strong military. I’ll support any party who stands for that. The DEMS will never get close, not my fault.
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Well who’d a thunk it!! There IS a party that is for smaller government, low taxes, low spending, no regulation, strong military. They’re called the Taliban.
August 12th, 2009 at 6:10 pm
Prepare for another losing season. The Raiders cant afford another 200 carries from someone like Farglass
August 12th, 2009 at 6:11 pm
Mistabrown Says:
August 12th, 2009 at 5:54 pm
Im for smaller govt, low taxes, low spending, less regulation, strong military
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Yeah, how about Health Care?
August 12th, 2009 at 6:13 pm
Brien keep telling like it is you’re so on you’re money. Great Rocky analogy you have the most talent laden spot in the NFL and you wanna use a slow concrete hands back with no vision.
August 12th, 2009 at 6:14 pm
Kell, so you guys just gonna run with anything Obama says huh?
August 12th, 2009 at 6:15 pm
162. What a crock of shite. Fargas sucks period.
His 179 yd game was NOT against Zach Thomas. Thomas AND Channing Crowder were injured. He ran against a team with NO MLB!!!
The ONLY reasson he got 1,000 yds was because it was a CONTRACT YEAR.
The instant he hit his bonus and incentives he was “injured” and sat on his ass.
He can pass block better than DMC or Bush last year but is s-hit at catching the ball so his presence on pass palys is almost a liability.
Fargas has been an oft injured stop gap mediocre runner with ZERO fieled vision and worthless inside the 5 yd line.
Why do Raider fans dis Fargas?
See above…
August 12th, 2009 at 6:15 pm
Fix medicaid first. Lets reform the current health care system without Universal socialized health care. Its a disaster in Canada & UK.
# KoolKell Says:
August 12th, 2009 at 6:11 pm
Mistabrown Says:
August 12th, 2009 at 5:54 pm
Im for smaller govt, low taxes, low spending, less regulation, strong military
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Yeah, how about Health Care?
August 12th, 2009 at 6:16 pm
175. You know nothing.
August 12th, 2009 at 6:17 pm
# NoMoreFargas Says:
August 12th, 2009 at 6:13 pm
Brien keep telling like it is you’re so on you’re money. Great Rocky analogy you have the most talent laden spot in the NFL and you wanna use a slow concrete hands back with no vision.
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That is why I’m needed on this site. We have an opportunity to change the way you use running backs with DMAC and Bush but noooooooooooooooo we love the hard running into everyone bastaard ass Farglass. When we are still multiple game losers dont wonder why. Call me evil but if you want any chance of the Raiders winnin games this year you need Farglass to get a major injury. Yeah fuk you I said it
August 12th, 2009 at 6:18 pm
# Nnamdi21 Says:
August 12th, 2009 at 6:16 pm
175. You know nothing.
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That is BS. Write your homosexual ass congressman then if you dont like it
August 12th, 2009 at 6:18 pm
Mistabrown Says:
August 12th, 2009 at 6:15 pm
Fix medicaid first. Lets reform the current health care system without Universal socialized health care. Its a disaster in Canada & UK.
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Then why do you suppose, the UK & Canada, have higher standards of living, Longer Life Expectancy, Lower Infant Mortality rates?
August 12th, 2009 at 6:18 pm
Mistabrown Says:
August 12th, 2009 at 6:15 pm
Fix medicaid first. Lets reform the current health care system without Universal socialized health care. Its a disaster in Canada & UK.
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You sure Bush isnt responsible? lol
August 12th, 2009 at 6:21 pm
Uk & Canada have a shorter lifespan because of their HC is garbage, not to mention its breaking their bank.
Do you consider dying faster than us higher standard of living? You ignorant dope..
# KoolKell Says:
August 12th, 2009 at 6:18 pm
Mistabrown Says:
August 12th, 2009 at 6:15 pm
Fix medicaid first. Lets reform the current health care system without Universal socialized health care. Its a disaster in Canada & UK.
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Then why do you suppose, the UK & Canada, have higher standards of living, Longer Life Expectancy, Lower Infant Mortality rates?
August 12th, 2009 at 6:22 pm
Brien the General Says:
August 12th, 2009 at 6:18 pm
Mistabrown Says:
August 12th, 2009 at 6:15 pm
Fix medicaid first. Lets reform the current health care system without Universal socialized health care. Its a disaster in Canada & UK.
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Do some research before spouting the party line
August 12th, 2009 at 6:22 pm
A truly elite running back can put the game on his back and practically win it himself.
Ian Eagle quote in the 4th QTR as Bush was punishing them to put the game away against Tampa Game:
“He has taken this game by the throat and squeezed”
August 12th, 2009 at 6:23 pm
Its funny people say do some funky ass research when they havent done their own on Obama and who he is connected to. You people are hilarious
August 12th, 2009 at 6:24 pm
Mistabrown Says:
August 12th, 2009 at 6:21 pm
Uk & Canada have a shorter lifespan because of their HC is garbage, not to mention its breaking their bank.
Do you consider dying faster than us higher standard of living? You ignorant dope..
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UK & Canada have LONGER LIFESPANS.
August 12th, 2009 at 6:26 pm
“We’ve got to make sure that people who have more money help the people who have less money,” Sen. Obama said.
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So what the hell is that?
August 12th, 2009 at 6:26 pm
Are you kidding me? People die in line waiting for the GOVT to sort out whos going to get what & when.
KK, im done with your ignorant bigot a$$. Get the F out of here if you cant be honest.
August 12th, 2009 at 6:27 pm
# Brien the General Says:
August 12th, 2009 at 6:07 pm
# Chris in NY Says:
August 12th, 2009 at 6:05 pm
Socialized health care?!?!?!
WTF! I suppose next they’ll want to socialize police protection, schools, firefighting, road construction & maintenance, the military, the space program, social security, the judicial system and on and on and on.
I’m outraged. I’m going to go to a town hall meeting where people are discussing health care and shout down my congressman and act like a total ignorant jackazz. Who’s with me?
Not to mention Obama was born outside the U.S. in an Indonesian opium den! It’s true. Lou Dobbs was there high off his azz and he’s a first-hand witness!!!
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Socialism is awesome as long as your have a mixed heritage guy selling it. You know that the obama administration will take down the names of people who are against the plan right?
I dont know where Obama was born but the story doesnt match at all. Go look up when his mom was enrolled at Uni of Wash and when she supposedly conceived Barry. Something is wrong
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I don’t know what the mixed race thing has to do with anything. And the only president taking down names and illegally wire-tapping anyone who disagrees with them was W.
The hysteria over offering a public health care option is entirely stirred up by Right Wing loonies and corporate health care company stooges who preach that competition is necessary for efficiency but don’t want to compete against a government health care option. Which is all Obama is proposing. Not socialized medicine. A public health insurance OPTION.
Serious illness is the No.1 reason people lose their homes. People who don’t have health care run up huge bills that we already pay for because they go to the emergency room — where they can’t be refused — for basic care.
And as far as the government not being able to run anything, I listed those other examples to show that many functions that are necessary to maintaining basic rights and needs of citizens are already successfully run by the government. How are private industries like auto manufacturing, investment banking and newspaper publishing doing these days? Sure, many government-run agencies fail, but so do many private-run companies.
And as far as the Birther movement is concerned. Brien, you cannot be serious. I guess the birth certificate is a hoax, right? And that Barack Obama birth announcement that ran in the Honolulu Advertiser in 1961 was planted by Doc Brown and Marty McFly who were hired by Obama to go back in time and plant that notice when Obama decided to run for president (and secretly take over the world for his secret muslim ways).
P.S. – If a right-winger hates the government … and the government runs the military … does that right winger hate the troops?
August 12th, 2009 at 6:27 pm
MistaBrown: Repost
Why do you suppose UK & Canada have longer Life Expectancies
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_life_expectancy
August 12th, 2009 at 6:28 pm
Barb@ck gets to wakeup every morning & lie to the Amer people about Health Care because if hes honest about whats coming people will freak the hell out!
What a life. He has brought the Presidency to an ALL time low.
August 12th, 2009 at 6:28 pm
# SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
August 12th, 2009 at 6:22 pm
A truly elite running back can put the game on his back and practically win it himself.
Ian Eagle quote in the 4th QTR as Bush was punishing them to put the game away against Tampa Game:
“He has taken this game by the throat and squeezed”
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SnB, yes you are right. Farglass cant take a game over at all but he will start lol. Plan to use all three backs? Then who the hell will be in rhythm when the game is on the line?
August 12th, 2009 at 6:29 pm
# Mistabrown Says:
August 12th, 2009 at 6:28 pm
Barb@ck gets to wakeup every morning & lie to the Amer people about Health Care because if hes honest about whats coming people will freak the hell out!
What a life. He has brought the Presidency to an ALL time low.
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Sorry but it was low before he got SELECTED
August 12th, 2009 at 6:30 pm
# KoolKell Says:
August 12th, 2009 at 6:27 pm
MistaBrown: Repost
Why do you suppose UK & Canada have longer Life Expectancies
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_life_expectancy
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Because maybe those places arent the killes and vagabonds we are. Im sure all places have their issue but this country is full of murderers and sort of deviant bastards. Do I also need to mention Americans are fuking fat ass hell?
August 12th, 2009 at 6:32 pm
Killers*
August 12th, 2009 at 6:32 pm
Obama<———big corporations best friend
August 12th, 2009 at 6:33 pm
MistaBrown
Listen carefully to the question:
Why do you suppose the UK & Canada have lower “infant mortality rates” than the United States?
Infant Mortality Rate = Death/1000 live births.
August 12th, 2009 at 6:33 pm
you brien!
August 12th, 2009 at 6:34 pm
MistaBrown
Listen carefully to the question:
Why do you suppose the UK & Canada have lower “infant mortality rates” than the United States?
Infant Mortality Rate = Death/1000 live births.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_infant_mortality_rate
August 12th, 2009 at 6:34 pm
Sup Bob my alter ego
August 12th, 2009 at 6:35 pm
Yesterday Obama tells a town hall that the AARP supports his bill.
Today the spokesman for the AARP says NO they do not support his bill.
Barb@ck is a ridiculous POS!
August 12th, 2009 at 6:36 pm
Mistabrown Says:
August 12th, 2009 at 6:28 pm
Barb@ck gets to wakeup every morning & lie to the Amer people about Health Care because if hes honest about whats coming people will freak the hell out!
What a life. He has brought the Presidency to an ALL time low.
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MistaBrown
Can you marshall any facts or statistics to support your emotional rants?
August 12th, 2009 at 6:37 pm
# Mistabrown Says:
August 12th, 2009 at 6:35 pm
Yesterday Obama tells a town hall that the AARP supports his bill.
Today the spokesman for the AARP says NO they do not support his bill.
Barb@ck is a ridiculous POS!
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This is truth
August 12th, 2009 at 6:37 pm
Kell I have a lie for you……….what about the fact of his promise to end the war? How about flip flopping on that issue later on?
August 12th, 2009 at 6:38 pm
Spread the wealth= spread the death
August 12th, 2009 at 6:41 pm
Al Davis for president.
August 12th, 2009 at 6:42 pm
Charles Barkley VP
August 12th, 2009 at 6:43 pm
Mistabrown Says:
August 12th, 2009 at 6:26 pm
Are you kidding me? People die in line waiting for the GOVT to sort out whos going to get what & when.
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This is one of the great scare tactic LIES that the Republicans and Insurance companies put out to keep the status quo. Health care in almost every industrialized country is better and more efficient than ours. Elective surgeries certainly, take a back seat to necessary procedures. So, if you REALLY want to be genuine, you should rant about how some boob jobs are going to take years to happen.
August 12th, 2009 at 6:44 pm
Repost
MistaBrown
Listen carefully to the question:
Why do you suppose the UK & Canada have lower “infant mortality rates” than the United States?
Infant Mortality Rate = Death/1000 live births.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_infant_mortality_rate
August 12th, 2009 at 6:47 pm
WAS OBAMA SAYING AARP SUPPORTED HIS BILL REALLY A LIE? OR JUST A MISUNDERSTANDING BECAUSE AARP HAS PUBLICLY COME OUT IN FAVOR OF THE BILL NUMEROUS TIMES, BUT NOTES THAT IT HASN’T GIVEN ITS OFFICIAL STAMP OF APPROVAL. THIS ARTICLE EXPLAINS THE CONFUSION AND SHOWS THAT OBAMA’S CLAIM IS NOT WITHOUT MERIT:
Several times at the town hall in Portsmouth, N.H., on Aug. 11, Obama specifically mentioned AARP’s support for health care reform. It’s little wonder why: the AARP is the country’s largest and most powerful advocate for seniors.
“We have the AARP on board because they know this is a good deal for our seniors,” Obama said at one point.
And later, in response to a question about whether the health care plan would reduce the availability of medications through Medicare, Obama said, “Well, first of all, another myth that we’ve been hearing about is this notion that somehow we’re going to be cutting your Medicare benefits. We are not. AARP would not be endorsing a bill if it was undermining Medicare, okay?”
It was that last comment that caught the attention of AARP executives. Not the part that AARP would not support a bill that undermines Medicare benefits. That’s true. It was the suggestion that AARP had formally endorsed any particular version of the still-evolving health care plan working its way through Congress.
AARP Chief Operating Officer Tom Nelson immediately fired off a press release saying that “indications that we have endorsed any of the major health care reform bills currently under consideration in Congress are inaccurate.”
The rebuke likely confused a lot of AARP members who have read or heard numerous AARP statements in recent weeks that have supported various aspects of the health care plan.
Just a few weeks ago, on July 14, the AARP issued a press release gushing about the introduction of the House health care reform bill saying, “This bill would make great strides for all of our members and their families.” The group said it was pleased with the legislation for giving “every American has access to affordable, quality health care choices.”
Specifically, the release said the bill would make prescription drugs less expensive for seniors, would block insurance companies from denying coverage based on age, and for capping out-of-pocket expenses for some insurance plans. AARP did not explicitly say it was endorsing the bill, but there was not a single negative comment in the statement.
In a July 14 ad sponsored by Healthy Economy Now – a coalition including AARP, the American Medical Association and the pharmaceutical industry, among others – the tone was decidedly upbeat. “The president and Congress have a plan to lower costs and stop denials for preexisting conditions,” the ad says. “It’s time to act.”
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The people up on their soapboxes calling Obama a liar for saying the bill had AARP’s support are either flat-out, evil liars (the Glenn Beck’s, Sean Hannity’s, etc.) or they unfortunately listen to and believe the outrageous claims and misleading accusations concocted by these slimy liars. Either way, they’re off target.
August 12th, 2009 at 6:48 pm
LOL bob
August 12th, 2009 at 6:48 pm
MistaBrown: Repost
Why do you suppose UK & Canada have longer Life Expectancies
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_life_expectancy
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August 12th, 2009 at 6:51 pm
LOL @ Kell. He is persistent. The USA has the most murderers and super criminals the earth has ever known. Also the diet here is awful. The women are fat and so are the kids. We are heavy off all kinds of drugs and you wonder why UK and Canada have longer life expectancies lol
August 12th, 2009 at 6:52 pm
Brien,
That’s my biggest problem with Fargas. He simply has not shown the ability to take the game completely over. Damn the passing game. Just take it over.
Fargas gives you too many “okay” games….”Role player” type games.
DMAC rushing for 160 yds against KC is taking over the game. Especially WHEN EVERYONE KNEW HE WAS GETTING THE BALL.
Compare that to the second K.C game. A game where the running back needed to be dominant. What did we get?
Sometimes it seems the Raiders put winning on the backburner.
August 12th, 2009 at 6:53 pm
KK
they will not listen to you…
if you are talking to someone who is not convinced that Obama is the legitimate president… i.e… born in Hawaii…
then you have no hope of eliciting an intelligent response…
by the way… here’s the latest from AARP…
uh, it is for those of you willing to get your information from someone other than Limbaugh, Beck, OReally, Savage, etc…
http://www.aarpmagazine.org/health/8_myths_about_health_care_reform.html
August 12th, 2009 at 6:53 pm
# Brien the General Says:
August 12th, 2009 at 6:51 pm
LOL @ Kell. He is persistent. The USA has the most murderers and super criminals the earth has ever known. Also the diet here is awful. The women are fat and so are the kids. We are heavy off all kinds of drugs and you wonder why UK and Canada have longer life expectancies lol
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WTF are super criminals? Agree about the fatties though.
August 12th, 2009 at 6:54 pm
Well,
MistaBrown
Listen carefully to the question:
Why do you suppose the UK & Canada have lower “infant mortality rates” than the United States?
Infant Mortality Rate = Death/1000 live births.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_infant_mortality_rate
August 12th, 2009 at 6:58 pm
KK
mistabrown thinks if we have a higher mortality rate…
well… that means we’re winning…
August 12th, 2009 at 6:58 pm
# Chris in NY Says:
August 12th, 2009 at 6:53 pm
# Brien the General Says:
August 12th, 2009 at 6:51 pm
LOL @ Kell. He is persistent. The USA has the most murderers and super criminals the earth has ever known. Also the diet here is awful. The women are fat and so are the kids. We are heavy off all kinds of drugs and you wonder why UK and Canada have longer life expectancies lol
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WTF are super criminals? Agree about the fatties though.
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Chris we have the vile animals on the planet earth. Gangs, hardcore murderers, rapists and even the bitch that created planned parenthood. Look at the people in jail here. What about the fact that no one and I mean no one kills each others like people in the USA. This isnt even up for debate
August 12th, 2009 at 7:00 pm
# SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
August 12th, 2009 at 6:52 pm
Brien,
That’s my biggest problem with Fargas. He simply has not shown the ability to take the game completely over. Damn the passing game. Just take it over.
Fargas gives you too many “okay” games….”Role player” type games.
DMAC rushing for 160 yds against KC is taking over the game. Especially WHEN EVERYONE KNEW HE WAS GETTING THE BALL.
Compare that to the second K.C game. A game where the running back needed to be dominant. What did we get?
Sometimes it seems the Raiders put winning on the backburner.
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Exactly I said that either last night or earlier today! Farglass is gonna hurt the offense and everyone will say “Brien, you were right” again and I will be even more pissed about it. Expect a loss come Sept 14th
August 12th, 2009 at 7:01 pm
MistaBrown,
Medical Bills Leading Cause of Bankruptcy, Harvard Study Finds
http://www.consumeraffairs.com/news04/2005/bankruptcy_study.html#ixzz0O1YetYUv
August 12th, 2009 at 7:02 pm
SnB, we dont have a true Nose Tackle and reports say Ron Brace is a muthfugga right now to deal with for the Pats. Could have used him but noooooooooooooo. WE love the buddy system here with Gerard the UT Warren. We are about to get what we deserve ala Snow Job Feb 2002 and the Super Bowl Feb 03
August 12th, 2009 at 7:03 pm
MistaBrown is dead certain, and wholly uninformed. A common trait.
August 12th, 2009 at 7:04 pm
On tuesday Sept 15th, many will wake up with the sobering notion that the Raiders dont want to win on the field and losing season number 7 is happening and the Super Bowl we all drea of is that much further away. This is a fuking joke and I’m hoping Farglass gets injured sometime soon
August 12th, 2009 at 7:11 pm
SnB, sad to see such a promising thing go down the drain. I bet Bush gets traded before the trade deadline and we keep Farglass in 2010 on our way to another 10 loss season
August 12th, 2009 at 7:12 pm
Brien the General Says:
August 12th, 2009 at 7:02 pm
SnB, we dont have a true Nose Tackle and reports say Ron Brace is a muthfugga right now to deal with for the Pats. Could have used him but noooooooooooooo. WE love the buddy system here with Gerard the UT Warren. We are about to get what we deserve ala Snow Job Feb 2002 and the Super Bowl Feb 03
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Interesting isn’t it. Other than Nnamdi Asomugha…Gerard Warren and Tommy Kelly HAVE NO COMPETITION AT THEIR RESPECTIVE POSITIONS! NONE!
Some will say its because the Raiders are satisfied with what’s there. In my opinion, its because the interior defensive line is an afterthought to Al Davis. The reason Warren is miscast as an NT is because the Raiders don’t really differentiate between the UT and NT. Their job is all the same…rush the QB. the Raiders haven’t played the run well in a generation!
August 12th, 2009 at 7:14 pm
Brien,
Also, what do you think about what is transpiring at MLB? Just think Rey Mauluaga was available for a simple trade up. Or how about Jasper Brinkley.
Nope…instead they tried to convert some tight end from Boise State and brought in an Undrafted Free Agent. Now we find out that they want to “push” Morrison. Sorry folks…Ricky Brown ain’t the competition that will truly push anyone.
August 12th, 2009 at 7:17 pm
SnB it is sad that the NT and UT have the same roles. This is why the run defense shall continue to suck.
As for MLB…..lol what a joke. Morrison is one dimensional and Ricky Brown is an all guts no talent player. This team is in trouble
August 12th, 2009 at 7:19 pm
I see this has deteriorated back into a healthcare debate. But you guys are getting what I’m saying.
It doesn’t matter if you are running a private vs public system so long as the incentive structure is out of whack. Switching to a public system does nothing but change the type of entity responsible for paying. The underlying bill will remain largely the same (and keep rising). If you don’t resolve the incentive structure – you won’t resolve anything.
Tort reform, regulating insurance companies and all of these other arguments only skirt around the edges of a much deeper problem in healthcare. Namely, over-utilization of hospitals and the doctor/patient conundrum.
As a patient you assume more attention is better. In the perfect world this rings true. But in the medical world – not so fast. More attention cost more money. More attention keeps you in the hospitals where you are suspect to catch other illnesses (ppl are there for a reason – they’re sick) further increasing the cost of cure. But giving you more attention (and recommending things you don’t really need) is how doctors make the bucks. So they over-prescribe remedies and charge higher fees. Milking the system.
August 12th, 2009 at 7:20 pm
But you guys are *NOT* getting what I’m saying.
Some of you are though (1or2)
August 12th, 2009 at 9:24 pm
90210 Says:
August 12th, 2009 at 4:47 pm
HALL IS A F’N IDIOT! NOW HE HAS THE BALLS TO TALK SH@T WHEN HE IS NOT AROUND , I BET HE HAD A DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE WHEN HE WAS CASHING THOSE CHECKS. I WISH I RAN IN TO HIM TO KNOCK HIM THE F OUT! F’N PHAG!
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lmao.
Who are you kidding?
There are two kind of “badasses”.
Those who just know they are, and have zero need to mouth off, knowing if need be, they’ll step up
Then there are the internet tough guys. Who think acting like a badass covers up the fact they likely get slapped around…by their sister.
Odd how that happens, isn’t it?
Oh, FYI, Hall was canned. Was signed for big bucks, then canned by the undisputed worst owner in all of sports, ANY SPORT, Al Davis, in the middle of the season, which, actually he was just getting used to the scheme he had never played in prior to the Raiders..so yeah, he had every right to call it like he sees it.
Incidentially, Aso ALSO STATED IT WAS A BAD MOVE.
Ok..now..act like an internet tough guy….”GO”
August 12th, 2009 at 9:37 pm
Mistabrown Says:
August 12th, 2009 at 4:56 pm
Oakglen, you seem to have progressed from just a knuckle headed moronic koolaid drinking troll to a sociopathic loon.
What happened in your life?
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Interesting anaylsis.
Insecurity issues mixed in makes him pathetic at best.
Rather funny watching him get slapped down, where he immediately goes on these little juvenile one sentence rants, mostly pathetic and not well thought out, where he’s hoping for support.
Oddly most vocal after it’s obvious the poster left…puffing out the hallow chest, stating “boy, he’s lucky he left. I was ready to really give it to him.”
Called small man syndrome.