Cable wants Raiders feeling low
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Friday, August 14th, 2009 at 6:01 pm in Oakland Raiders.
News and notes from Tom Cable’s conference call with Bay Area media Friday night, the day after a 31-10 win over the Dallas Cowboys:
– Getting up for the game is one thing, staying up is something else entirely.
It happened on the Cowboys’ second drive, which they had their most success running and drove for a touchdown, and to a lesser extent, throughout the game.
“I thought, our entire team, we were really playing way too high right now on both sides of the line of scrimmage,” Cable said. “Even in running routes, and in coverage and all that, we’ve got to get our hips down. I think it’s a product of camp but it’s something that has to have some attention put to it right away.”
– Cable on Mario Henderson: “If we can get his body down he’ll be better and more explosive and powerful,” Cable said. “But he did fine. The guy he was playing against there for a couple of series (DeMarcus Ware) is really a great player, an impact player. He did fine against him. But Mario, the first thing he told me when he was done was, `I’ve got to get my body down.’
– The game film reaffirmed Cable’s postgame belief that the Raiders were playing fast.
“One thing I was surprised at, and I felt this way as I was watching it unfolding, and I feel that way after watching it on film, is just how fast we looked as a football team and in terms of decision-making,” Cable said. “I’m talking about everybody, not just the quarterback. We really got where we needed to be in a hurry on both sides of the ball and on special teams.”
– But about those 14 penalties for 107 yards . . .
“It’s obviously a concern,” Cable said. “We’ve put a lot into that so we’ll continue to do that . . . as I mentioned to them after the game, it’s just too many.”
– The Raiders threw 37 times as opposed to 26 runs, and had to close with a rush with seven runs by Gary Russell in the final eight plays, to get that many.
“I just wanted to work to throw the ball,” Cable said. “Where we will be I think depends on how far we can take this passing game.”
– Cable conceded it was a shaky game by cornerback Stanford Routt, who had a defensive holding penalty and struggled in coverage.
“He could have been a bit tighter in some of his coverage and I think he’d probably be the first one to tell you that,” Cable said.
– The National Football Post is reporting the Raiders worked out linebacker Morlon Greenwood, 31, who last played for the Houston Texans. Considering they were also reported to have asked about Derrick Brooks, you wonder how serious Jon Alston’s foot condition (plantar fasciatis) is. Cable declined to address any players the Raiders have worked out.
– When asked about the performance of running back Darren McFadden, Cable made sure to include the other two heads of the three-headed monster.
“He hit a crease, caught a ball, caught the screen,” Cable said. “It was nice to get him in there a little bit. Same thing with (Justin) Fargas. Same thing with (Michael) Bush. Each of them kind of did what we thought we needed them to do.”
In Fargas case, they thought they needed him to run one time for two yards.
– Cornerback Nnamdi Asomugha (heel) and center John Wade (stinger) are day to day. Linebacker Isaiah Ekejiuba (shoulder), who left the locker room with an ice bag strapped to his shoulder, “looks to be a few days,” Cable said. Safety Mike Mitchell “is a wait and see thing right now.”
– The Raiders will have one session both Saturday and Sunday at 3:30 p.m.
Raiders penalties vs. Cowboys
Cooper Carlisle, holding, 10 yards
Stanford Routt, defensive holding, 10 yards
Seth Wand, false start, 5 yards
Tyvon Branch, holding, 10 yards (special teams)
Samson Satele, tripping, 8 yards
William Joseph, encroachment, 5 yards
Paul McQuistan, holding, 10 yards
Michael Huff, pass interference, 5 yards
Brandon Myers, offsides, 5 yards
Jason Horton, pass interference, 5 yards
Jason Horton, pass interference, 5 yards
Brandon Myers, illegal shift, 5 yards
Darrell Strong, holding, 10 yards
Jason Horton, pass interference, 16 yards
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August 14th, 2009 at 6:07 pm
first!
August 14th, 2009 at 6:08 pm
‘The Raiders Return To Greatness Is Inevitable’
August 14th, 2009 at 6:08 pm
Smh all those… penalties
August 14th, 2009 at 6:10 pm
To be honest 9 out of the 14 penalties were committed by non-starters. Players that may seldom see the football field once the regular seasin starts. But it still needs to be improved though.
August 14th, 2009 at 6:14 pm
the worst of the flags was near the goal line… unacceptable…
August 14th, 2009 at 6:19 pm
True that kush… But thats still 5 too many. And I’d take a huff pass interference over a td anyday.lol I have no problem with a flag if its the difference between a score.
August 14th, 2009 at 6:25 pm
I don’t think Huff’s penalty was one at all. I think he hit it at the right time. I thought that one was a bad call. But overall waaay too many. Sure most by non starters but starters only played 1 quarter.
August 14th, 2009 at 6:30 pm
i thought the calls against Horton were pretty marginal.
August 14th, 2009 at 6:30 pm
RaiderRon Says:
August 14th, 2009 at 4:49 pm
What game were you watching??
You know, the kind of game you hate, Raiders Win!!!
August 14th, 2009 at 6:30 pm
Jerry actually missed one. Cooper Carlisle got penalized TWICE yesterday
August 14th, 2009 at 6:31 pm
RaiderRon Says:
August 14th, 2009 at 4:47 pm
WTF are you talking about?
The Raider game, You know, the kind of game you hate, Raiders Win!!!
August 14th, 2009 at 6:33 pm
RaiderRon Says:
August 14th, 2009 at 4:54 pm
RaiderRon sux. He is a fringe poster at best.
August 14th, 2009 at 6:37 pm
RaiderRon Says:
August 14th, 2009 at 5:03 pm
Cable is pissed at RaiderRon for coming onto this blog so out of shape. Both men admitted as much.
He says things that don’t matter and are just question marks after other posters comments. How weak.
August 14th, 2009 at 6:46 pm
So Raider ron thinks brown sucks but morrison and fargas are the bomb, yeah good call.
August 14th, 2009 at 6:55 pm
“In Fargas case, they thought they needed him to run one time for two yards”
I was thinking the same thing when i read that.
August 14th, 2009 at 7:00 pm
http://football.fantasysports.yahoo.com/
I usually just check out the smack talking.
I see that some of you were asking about a Fantasy Football League. I created one just for Raider Fans. 6 spots left. It’s IDP. 3 DBs and 3DLs and 2 each of the other positions. The online live draft is set for Friday, Aug 28 7:30pm.
League ID#: 200239
Password: raiders
First six are welcome to join. Be competitive
August 14th, 2009 at 7:01 pm
The first team was terrible, just like last year. The pass rush was ridiculous,..Romo was untouched during his time,..Terdell Sands should be cut,..big lazy dude with no skills. Come opener Rivers will possibly throw for 450 yards.
August 14th, 2009 at 7:03 pm
Raiderserious,..no thanks, but there are alot of shut-ins in here that will take you up on that,..anything to keep them from actually meeting a woman is what theyre all about.
August 14th, 2009 at 7:07 pm
We’d be up sheeets creek w/out Greg Ellis. Our DE’s SUCK.
August 14th, 2009 at 7:08 pm
Nice knowing you Kirk.
August 14th, 2009 at 7:08 pm
Dont let that one pick full you, HUFF IS AWFUL.
August 14th, 2009 at 7:09 pm
fool
August 14th, 2009 at 7:11 pm
Why not play Kalifff Barnes at RG after his injury???
I know he’s never played there, but how hard could it be???
CARLISLE SUCKS. and Pears and Wand actually dont look so bad on the edge in case they need to back-up.
LT- Henderson
LG- Gallery
C- Satele
RG- Barnes
RT- Green
August 14th, 2009 at 7:22 pm
HayesDaze37 Says:
August 14th, 2009 at 3:48 pm
MR — Your negativity isn’t going to change the fact that Chaz Schilens looks like a real player.
……
And your delusional kool aid isn’t going to change the fact that Shilens looked like a real player against a bunch of backups.
He had one solid reception against their first squad, and I gave him props. Nice separation, extended to catch the ball, had it not been on the sideline he could have turned it up field for a big play. But is that reason to chalk him up as “real player”? I’m going to wait and see what he looks like against live bullets in the regular season. There’s nothing wrong with thinking a player has potential but you guys act like every player that lights it up against a 3rd string defense is going to be a pro bowler. It’s embarrassing. Only Raider fans do this.
August 14th, 2009 at 7:23 pm
Don’t the niners look gay in their uniforms?
I don’t know whats more disgusting the bronco’s or them!
August 14th, 2009 at 7:24 pm
I think Al Davis purposely keeps his starting receivers and backs in against opposing backups to make them look good. It’s too bad some fans like HayesDaze fall for it.
August 14th, 2009 at 7:26 pm
666 They play in frisco… So I thinks thats the aim.lol
August 14th, 2009 at 7:27 pm
Dmac, there’s gangsters in Frisco that will cut your head off and leave it on your momma’s porch.
August 14th, 2009 at 7:30 pm
I hate to do it but I have to agree with MR on that.
At the end of the first period it was Dallas 7 us 3 and their offense moved the ball at will against our first team defense.
Until we fix it run defense we will never have am 8 win or better season.
August 14th, 2009 at 7:31 pm
Norco Bob, you’re stereotyping. Not all of us that play FF are shut-ins. You guys from Norco are something else. Just kidding. Hey if a shut-in wants to join my league it’s fine with me. As long as they know their football and are Raider Fans.
August 14th, 2009 at 7:33 pm
LaMont Jordon cannot block!
He is a useless turd in Denver’s barf color color uniform!
August 14th, 2009 at 7:36 pm
Again MR post #28 very true.
August 14th, 2009 at 7:38 pm
So far we look like the most effective offensive team in the league. 456 yds. Wow!
August 14th, 2009 at 7:41 pm
I think Al Davis purposely keeps his starting receivers and backs in against opposing backups to make them look good. It’s too bad some fans like HayesDaze fall for it.
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God damn… Trmr you are the most negative person in the F***in universe I swear. You’re like a nagging wife. If its not one thing its another. You always have something to complain about. You must don’t get any pu**y or somethin… Must not with that attitude. Smh… It sounds like you hate everything raiders… If I were you I’d just become a patriot fan because the raiders keep you stressed, whether its the qb, startin rb, the coaches play call, the o-line, d-line, safeties, the owner, and now its the wide recievers??? Yea dude… I think it’d be best you just find another team so you can finally be happy.
And its not als fault the cowboys starting dbs were hurt. You’re telling me just because the other teams starters are down our starting recievers shouldn’t play??? The majority of our receviers are young, so yea they need the live game reps to be more prepared for the regular season because they will play an intrigual part in our O this year. So wanna let them play as much as possible to get the jitters out of their systems early. I believe thats more the reason he plays them more rather than just to make them look good in a meaningless game…
August 14th, 2009 at 7:41 pm
Chaz is the man. AND THE WHINERS ARE GAY-
August 14th, 2009 at 7:47 pm
Trmr plese you know nothing about the hood. So don’t start that. Theres gangsters every where yes this I know… But in frisco the rate if gay people is high point blank… Thats being honest. Across the globe San fran is known more for being the haven for people “like you” more than they are known for their hoods, and that says alot. But being realistic I have a better chance of getting shot than getting my head cut off, but you’ve never been in no hood so I don’t even see why you comment…
August 14th, 2009 at 7:49 pm
they moved the ball at will-that’s why they had that huge 7-3 lead and if we would have played our starting RBs it would have been 7-7,because everyone knows Mac and Bush will be the main backs near the goal line once the games count.
August 14th, 2009 at 7:51 pm
Really loving this Orton guy.
August 14th, 2009 at 7:53 pm
I believe we are going to smash the niners on saturday. I know it means nothing but my big bro and a couple of my friends are niners fans, and I loooove to talk s**t, So it means alot to me as far as bragging r goes… Preseason or not.
August 14th, 2009 at 8:01 pm
MR-are you one of those people who was a Raider fan in the late 70s and then became a whiner fan when Davis deserted us and moved to la la land?there are many of those.in fact,the whiners couldn’t sell out until that happened.that would explain your attitude towards the Raiders and AD.
August 14th, 2009 at 8:02 pm
Yes Orton just threw another one!!!
August 14th, 2009 at 8:02 pm
LOL! Kyle and LaMont are my best frieds!
August 14th, 2009 at 8:02 pm
yo RaiderMIght were starting up another5 FFL you in or what?
I was thinking the same thing bout Orton BTW…
August 14th, 2009 at 8:05 pm
Man after watching these two losers (niners/broncos) Im feeling cocky about our team.lol I just cant wait until the regular season game against the donkeys. Go raiders!!!
August 14th, 2009 at 8:05 pm
I cant wait to play Denver and see Orton throwing us some INT’s and LaMont Jordon try to block.
This is amusing to watch!!
August 14th, 2009 at 8:06 pm
Kyle Orton looks like poo. Thanks Josh Mac
August 14th, 2009 at 8:07 pm
408 good to see you back
How long were you banned?
August 14th, 2009 at 8:07 pm
Orton with 3 ints. Wow.
August 14th, 2009 at 8:09 pm
666…
I got banned on cinco de mayo for calling elmer fudd a lazy b1tch so about 3 monts.. It was lame
August 14th, 2009 at 8:11 pm
I have been banned for calling jerry lazy once (two weeks) and twice for saying the mod is on her period (month).
The good news is that I found profootballtalk and I blog there now instead I am not here as much anymore.
August 14th, 2009 at 8:12 pm
3 picks for 3 drives!
August 14th, 2009 at 8:13 pm
Lance 2.0 is looking great with his new team.
August 14th, 2009 at 8:17 pm
He had one solid reception against their first squad, and I gave him props. Nice separation, extended to catch the ball, had it not been on the sideline he could have turned it up field for a big play. But is that reason to chalk him up as “real player”? I’m going to wait and see what he looks like against live bullets in the regular season. There’s nothing wrong with thinking a player has potential but you guys act like every player that lights it up against a 3rd string defense is going to be a pro bowler. It’s embarrassing. Only Raider fans do this.
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Chaz Is a player he made big plays in the regular season lat year including a nice 60 yard reception against the ravens… Its not his fault the coaches didn’t start him until darn near the end of the season and he got hurt. Check his highlights on nfl.com you’ll see he has quite a few good plays aginst first teamers in the regular season, and now he has another training camp under his belt and more experienc so he can only get better. He runs a 4.38, has sticky fingers, he’s 6′4 with a 43 inch vert, and his confidence is there… So why wouldn’t he be a player??? Crabgreed wishes he had those measurables, but I bet you’d say crabtree was a player huh??? Smh
August 14th, 2009 at 8:18 pm
thats cool Ill have to check it out.. I have to admit I like most of the NATION that post here but the mod and Elmer fudd act like theyre all powerful.. Its very annoying when they leave all the racism and gay pen1s jokes posted delete good raider talk…
August 14th, 2009 at 8:20 pm
666
haha I was reading profootballtalk yesterday and I saw your name on there thought thats was you. The raider haters are thick on that site though don’t you think?
August 14th, 2009 at 8:22 pm
The niners are running into the locker room right now to get a closer look at Singletary’s ass.
August 14th, 2009 at 8:24 pm
Dmac20
Yeah lots of Raider fans there!!
Lots of haters too.
August 14th, 2009 at 8:34 pm
I’m not sold on our DTs, CJ, and Oline.
August 14th, 2009 at 8:35 pm
Kyle orton looks horrible in the pocket. Haha our third stringer is better than that bum. When he feels pressure he gets scared and just throws whatever to whoever, Dbs, safeties, linebackers.lol I wouldn’t be surprised if a lineman got a pick off that bum if it wasn’t preseason and he had to sit.haha
August 14th, 2009 at 8:41 pm
Yea I feel you raider O but you’ve got to remmember we didn’t haveour complete O line out there. Gallery was out, and barnes didn’t play… So I wouldn’t expect much from them. They still held their own though… Its just they didn’t give jamarcus that tom brady time in the pockect(lol) but who does besides the pattsies, Our d-line is horrid, and I think cj will be ok once the season starts. Nexy draft its pretty safe to say we’ll be going all defense darn near, with the exception of an O-lineman.
August 14th, 2009 at 8:44 pm
CJ makes good plays, but he gives a lot too.
Our DTs are Sorry, and we need another DT. Teaching these bus how to play is not working. I want results.
Our Oline wasn’t good, Mario got away with some holding on Ware, Satele played well, but the rest were sorry!
R Brown is too small to play Mike, and Kirk …. Well, kirk is Kirk.
T Scott needs to learn to play the run, or be a pass rusher ONLY.
When he was asked about setting the edge, he said: ” what edge?”
August 14th, 2009 at 8:46 pm
* teaching these guys…
August 14th, 2009 at 8:48 pm
The O-Line will eventually work well together (Cable is still here) Satele looks real good, I hope that feeling last’s. This is also me being positive.
However Raider O you are correct in saying that we did absolutely nothing to improve our run defense which was 31st last year. I don’t have a positive feeling about this.
Teams are going to run on us and it will be embarrassing unless we fix it.
August 14th, 2009 at 8:49 pm
I agree about Gallery and Barnes, and that impact the Oline.
Hope you are right about next year’s draft.
August 14th, 2009 at 8:50 pm
Satele played very well.
August 14th, 2009 at 9:05 pm
raidaz 7-9 yeah baby
if we beat SD
10-6
August 14th, 2009 at 9:06 pm
kyle orton threw 2 interceptions in two drives
August 14th, 2009 at 9:07 pm
Wow! Coach Cable and I are the same page!
I mentioned in the last post that the D-Line seemed to be getting stood up way to often and that they need to more explosive and player lower with leverage.
Coach Cable said the whole team played to high and I agree with that….but the O-Line seemed to be playing too high at times as well!
Coach hit it on the head…and the team as a whole needs to play lower and play with more intensity and with more leverage.
August 14th, 2009 at 9:11 pm
I don’t think Cable is going to say:
-We need a DT, so we should draft one next year
-Our DTs can penetrate, but they are sorry against the run.
-We should have traded Burgess and Walter fir V Wilfork.
lol
August 14th, 2009 at 9:17 pm
Our defensive line really sucked on that second drive by Dallas. They ran right through us like butter. It was so scary, because it reminded me of last years d-line and the five years before then. The D-line really sucked and we’re always going to be playing from behind until we can address the defensive line. Our offensive line sucks a little as well. And, we need help at the line backer positions.
But we did win, our offense looked great, the o-line, to their credit did give JR time and the other 2 QB’s did great as well. So, there are a lot of positives. Like so many of us, I’m just tired of losing and I want to see us win, especially the opener against the dischargers.
August 14th, 2009 at 9:32 pm
This is my analysis of the Raiders from watching the game last night…
The Positives:
1)Jamarcus Russell. Say what you want about his weight, but he looked decisive, accurate on the short and intermediate routes, elusive when under pressure, and poised. He definitely has improved.
2)Chaz Schilens. He is the real deal. I don’t care what defense he was playing against. When he slid to make the catch that was under thrown, and then had the awareness to get up untouched, make a defender miss and get the first down, plus a couple of yards, that is a result of talent, point blank.
Mario Henderson. He is the real deal. He handled yet another dominant DE in Demarcus Ware and didn’t commit any stupid penalties. So what if he held on a play! If the refs don’t call it, it didn’t happen. There is holding on every play by someone, the key is not getting caught. O’shaunessy was clearly held on a play. The announcers all commented on it, but the refs didn’t call it, so move on, next play.
Darren Mcfadden – Beast, playmaker, scoring machine. Top 5 Running Back in the entire NFL when healthy. He needs to be the starter, Period!
Michael Bush- Beast. Powerful yet light on his feet. Good blocker. Needs to back up Mcfadden. Him and Mcfadden, along with our zone blocking could be the best 1-2 combo in the league.
Our O-Line. Taking into account that 40% of our starting line is missing with Gallery and Barnes out, they did quite well. I believe they will be markedly improved. Only one sack on Jamarcus and that is with a depleted line. They opened up holes for runners and did not get dominated at the line of scrimmage.
Negatives:
Our Run Defense. Still sucks. Period. Ridiculous, unacceptable and disgusting. We hear all of this talk about stopping the run, but the Cowboys still still march down the field on their second drive, using mostly running pla
Pressuring the QB: The touchdown that Romo scored to Whitten was because ONCE AGAIN the defensive scheme on that play was to rush 3 FREAKING PEOPLE and drop the rest into coverage!
If we are going to play a man defense, it doesn’t matter if we have Deion Sanders, Ronnie Lott and Rod woodson in their primes, if the FREAKING QB has ALL DAY TO THROW THE BALL HE WILL SCORE! Our scheme only works if you PRESSURE THE QUARTERBACK. A pass rush of 3 FREAKING PEOPLE! Pathetic.
In conclusion, our offense actually looks improved, much sharper, and decisive. DHB CAUGHT THE BALL PEOPLE! Jamarcus actually under threw him on the first bomb down the sidelines. He will open up the field and the rest of our offense will be the beneficiary.
Our DEFENSE STILL SUCKS. It’s a case of different toilet same sh*t.
Until we can pressure the quarterback and stop the run, or at least do one or the other, we ARE NOT going to nobody’s playoffs.
7-9 or 8-8! That’s my prediction.
August 14th, 2009 at 9:33 pm
Thats true glad it is just the first pre season game but that Dallas O line is huge and all pro bowlers or Ex so time will tell maybe not a bad idea to bring in Brooks. I thougt we had enough linebackers may need some help….
August 14th, 2009 at 9:45 pm
Nice game, but until Crazy Al starts drafting linemen in the first round, we aren’t going to win any championships.
August 14th, 2009 at 9:48 pm
I thought Slade Norris looked like our best middle linebacker. He brought down the tight end like a cowboy wrestling a steer to the ground.
Evil Roy Slade.
August 14th, 2009 at 9:58 pm
I noticed a guy on the Oline named Johnson, big guy who looks like he may be a player. Slade Norris was impressive at times.
Marcel Reece looks like a keeper. Brandon Myers looks like a much better player tha the Raiders expected. We went from no WR’s to tooo many.
DMC and Bush look like two of the best HB’s we’ve ever had, talk about thunder and lightning. WOW!!
August 14th, 2009 at 10:03 pm
Too many WRs!!
LMAO
That’s a good problem to have.
August 14th, 2009 at 10:08 pm
Norris should compete with Brown to start at SAM. IMHO
Eugene looked great, and Branch and Huff played well. But the CBs were off yesterday.
CJ and Stanford gave a lot, and that could be to the lack pressure from the Dline.
August 14th, 2009 at 10:17 pm
Raider O, I appreciate you saying Eugene looked good. Because it’s truee. One of my pet peeves about this comments section is when peple say things because they feel it’ll make them popular.
The overall feeling about Eugene is he sucks!! which is not true but he is not a ppular player in here so that means he sucks. Anyone who’s not the favorite of a poster all of a sudden is the wrst player in the league.
Eugene is a good football player…………..period the coaches know it.
August 14th, 2009 at 10:27 pm
Priest,you mean the coaches know more than the people who post on here?i’ll be damned.
August 14th, 2009 at 10:29 pm
BHP,
Eugene has showed that he belongs on the field. If Huff, Branch, or NM want to take his spot, then they have to earn it.
We have some good problems:
- Too many RBs
- Too many WRs
- Too many backup QBs
- Too many Ss
August 14th, 2009 at 10:30 pm
NM : MM sorry.
August 14th, 2009 at 10:31 pm
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August 14th, 2009 at 10:34 pm
BHP,
You were right about Matt S, he can hold the edge. I can’t wait to see what he does after he adds a few pounds. He still has good speed and burst. He didn’t do much due to him playing RE. IMHO he would have been more comfortable playing LE.
August 14th, 2009 at 10:36 pm
Lefty12, isn’t that odd these fans could actually be wrong. Hopefully this defense will get sorted out before the season starts. We need to play much better the next time out.
Who’s this #78 Oline Johnson?? I was impressed. Do we really need Garcia?? after the way those two guy’s played.
August 14th, 2009 at 10:38 pm
Boyd is interesting, and I can’t wait to see Mitchell.
Do we keep 4 or 5 Ss?
Eugene
Branch
MM
Huff
And maybe Boyd
Do we keep 5 or 6 WRs?
Chaz
DHB
JLH
Murphy
Walker
And maybe Miller. Even Plun compared him to the Pats WR.
August 14th, 2009 at 10:42 pm
Raider O, he was very good in the Big 10 but he was injured so he dropped in the draft. We may have a real player in Shaughnessey. Let’s let him get better and yu’ll see this kid come off the edge. He was a very good pass rusher as well.
August 14th, 2009 at 10:42 pm
BHP,
M Johnson was playing RG for us yesterday ( he came from the Vikings, he was a high pick to play LT. Reminds you of anyone? lol), and he looked good too.
I want to see these players play more: Norris, Matt S, Boyd, Murphy, and N Miller.
I can’t wait to see Mitchell play!
August 14th, 2009 at 10:44 pm
i’m hoping a couple of our rookies make things difficult on def.i’d really like to see Norris and Shaugnessy come up big.hopefully some team will come calling for a QB and we can get something for Garcia.otherwise,i don’t see any reason for keeping him around,unless we can get more for one of the other 2.
August 14th, 2009 at 10:46 pm
As you can see, I like adding new talent. lol
Where is Frantz?
August 14th, 2009 at 10:47 pm
Ok, here we go …
Hiram Eugene is a good player in the sense that he is in the NFL. Most people who can start in the NFL and be solid are good players.
But IMO, he is not I am looking for in a FS. He doesn’t miss tackles, but he is not making any plays. Good of him to stop that reverse 20 yds later. Good of him to be there to escort Jones out of bounds 14 yds later. Those are meaningless plays to me sort of like Morrisons tackles 5 yds down the field. He’s just there, if you know what I mean. Not ever standing out, not really doing anything, but not messing up either. I can appreciate that, don’t get me wrong, but I see more potential in Huff and Boyd.
August 14th, 2009 at 10:47 pm
Lefty,
I don’t think anyone will trade for a QB that we may cut in a few weeks. IMO
August 14th, 2009 at 10:49 pm
hope Johnson is for real.it seems as if Cooper is on the declinei’m sure we’ll see changes as the pre season unfolds.i have faith in this staff,unlike others who don’t.
August 14th, 2009 at 10:50 pm
Eugene saved a TD, and he was the only player that didn’t bite on the reverse.
August 14th, 2009 at 10:50 pm
You mean your boy Franz Joseph? The guy you said was guaranteed to make the club. Yeah, he got cut bout 3 weeks ago. Good call! LOL!!!!!
August 14th, 2009 at 10:51 pm
I would rather give up 20 yards over a TD any day!
August 14th, 2009 at 10:52 pm
I see flashes from Huff that tell me he’s a better player in pass coverage. I like how he spent his summer studying the Ed Reeds and Brian Dawkins’ of the league. Add in Nnamdi and Morrison’s glowing reviews of his, plus the two outstanding plays he made last night, I just think he should start.
I actually like him at FS when Huff is in the R role in passing situations. Especially since Routt and everyone behind him is looking so bad.
August 14th, 2009 at 10:53 pm
I actually think Hiram is a decent player, not good definitely not great, but decent. Kind of like ol Hiram.
August 14th, 2009 at 10:53 pm
You remember!!! lol
Yes I did say that, and I also said Chaz was going to make it last year.
I can’t always be right!! lol
August 14th, 2009 at 10:54 pm
O-if someone needs a QB due to injuries,they may trade to get the guy so he can acclimate himself with there system and players.also,if more than 1 team are in need,1 might give a low pick so the other doesn’t pick him up.
August 14th, 2009 at 10:54 pm
Raider O,
Hows that Frantz prediction going?? LOL!!!!!!!!!
August 14th, 2009 at 10:56 pm
Let’s the Ss, RBs, and WRs compete, and that should make them better. It showed yesterday!
August 14th, 2009 at 10:56 pm
Well, O, if his highlight is a escorting a guy OOB 20 after a big gain, then I would think that’s not much of a highlight. It’s a shamed how far that position has fallen that folks are just simply happy with a guy who can make a tackle, lol!
I understand what you are saying based on our past, but the FS play needs to be upgraded. Whether thats Eugene stepping up his game, Huff realizing his talents, Branch, Boyd, whoever, just get it done!
August 14th, 2009 at 10:58 pm
Ron,
Not so good! lol
How about Chaz, how is he doing?
August 14th, 2009 at 10:58 pm
DHB was the worst of the WRs I saw yesterday. He seems real stiff and awkward. Seems to be fighting the ball. Its early but…………
August 14th, 2009 at 10:59 pm
at least Eugene is a hard worker and doesn’t make many mistakes.solid and consistent but not spectacular,better than anyone else we’ve had there in years.didn’t he come up with some ints. near the end of last season?can’t remember for sure.
August 14th, 2009 at 10:59 pm
I am a Chaz fan, youll get no argument from me.
August 14th, 2009 at 11:01 pm
There is ZERO reason for Javon Walker to be on this club. Period. End.
August 14th, 2009 at 11:02 pm
I would say let the LBs compete, but TH is a great WLB, and all the rest are SAMs. We don’t have a true MIKE!!!!!
I’m ready to move Kirk to SAM, and bring in a true MLB.
Brown is too small, so save that one for later!
August 14th, 2009 at 11:03 pm
better than anyone else we’ve had there in years isn’t hard to do. I agree with everything you guys are saying about Eugene. He’s a decent player. We need decent players to be backups!
August 14th, 2009 at 11:04 pm
Ron,
I agree, but it’s cheaper to keep him than cutting this year. We can cut him next year! lol
August 14th, 2009 at 11:04 pm
I think that we should get Walker in a game as soon as possible and let him get A LOT of snaps. Hopefully he looks like a stud so we can trade him for something. His contract is very friendly as well.
August 14th, 2009 at 11:05 pm
don’t be surprised if one of our young WRs comes up with a mysterious injury right before cut date.
August 14th, 2009 at 11:05 pm
Good/Great teams have “decent” players as backups. Teams like the Raiders have them as starters.
August 14th, 2009 at 11:06 pm
I would day let the DTs compete, but……
We need a Run Stuffer who can hold the point, and demand double teams!
August 14th, 2009 at 11:07 pm
*say
August 14th, 2009 at 11:08 pm
Jhill,so true.that’s probably why we drafted MM and signed Boyd-trying to get better.as far as huff goes,he’s just too damn inconsistent.
August 14th, 2009 at 11:11 pm
at least on our current roster we have decent players.in the past,after Bruce and chuckies geritol team,we didn’t even have them.
August 14th, 2009 at 11:12 pm
It’s getting late, and I’m tired.
Have a great night Gents and a great weekend.
Later Nation.
August 14th, 2009 at 11:16 pm
from what i saw the last 2 days,things could be worse.did anyone see the whiner/donkey game?at least we have decent players.
August 14th, 2009 at 11:17 pm
True Lefty,
what did you think about Trevor Scott’s play?
August 14th, 2009 at 11:22 pm
Jhill-lacking,very lacking.but he was playing against one of the better LTs in football.hopefully he’ll get better as the practice games go on-or else,someone will take his spot.J.Rich or Matt S.-if he progresses nicely.
nite,O.
August 14th, 2009 at 11:23 pm
We still have the Chargers who will be at least 8-8. They’ll get the same 4 wins we will against KC and Denver, so if we want to make the playoffs this year we have to upgrade some of our “decent” players. And demoting someone to 2nd string is not like saying they don’t belong on the team.
Scott – awful against the run due to lack of size.
Morrison – Sorry, I’ve seen enough. And with his upcoming outlandish contract demands, might as well pull the plug.
Eugene – Cmon Mithcell, get that leg right. Push Branch to FS, Huff to R.
Warren – Didn’t like how he couldn’t beat single blocks, and was getting blown back when doubled.
Routt – Uggghhh
I know it was only week one, but …..
August 14th, 2009 at 11:25 pm
But we have been hearing about Scott getting tossed around all of camp. Does that say something about Mario? Or will we see a pattern here with Scott? The really troubling thing is 2 of his pancakes were applied by Whitten.
August 14th, 2009 at 11:26 pm
Ted Tollner and Paul Hackett are doing a great job. A very diversified passing attack, and the ball came out on time with all 3 QB’s.
August 14th, 2009 at 11:27 pm
Jhill,there seem to be a lot of options at DE.J.Rich and Ellis start-Scott and Matt back up and groomed for the future.Matt & Ellis start,Scott(if he improves)& ellis start.a lot of combinations.that is what the practice games are for-to let these things work themselves out.
August 14th, 2009 at 11:29 pm
I feel like Morrison could do well on the outside. No need to cut him.
Also, I begged for weeks leading up to the draft for the Raiders to take Maualuga.
August 14th, 2009 at 11:34 pm
Jhill,i’m not too concerned with Warren.he knows the games don’t count.imo,his intensity will improve.right now they just want to get through these practice games healthy.
KK-i heard today the only knock on JR last nite was he never looked off the safeties.something to work on,but as you say,all 3 looked good.
August 14th, 2009 at 11:36 pm
Orton throws 3 picks?!?!
Donkeys fans must be going crazy right now. Has a new head coach ever been fired before his first regular season actually began?
Simms might actually be in the lead to win that starting job right now.
August 14th, 2009 at 11:38 pm
Kush…post #71
Well said, well explained, as you said: point blank right on.
WHAT REALLY PIZZES ME OFF IS WHEN WE RUSH 3 AND THEN SOMETIMES THE STUPID NOSE TACKLE DOWNS BACK AS WELL AND WE HAVE TWO IDIOTS RUSHING. WE’LL NEVER MAKE THE PLAYOFFS DOING THAT KIND OF CRAP.
August 14th, 2009 at 11:41 pm
Rushing 3 with your back against the endzone?
August 14th, 2009 at 11:43 pm
I HATE THE PENALTIES ON THE GOAL LINE. HATE THEM. THEY KILL US.
the right side of our O line is looking EXTREMELY SHAKY. i think our left side is playing extremely well including our center samson. but JESUS. RG and RT. are dead awful. i hate cornell green with a passion and those 2 penalties by cooper really got me pissed off.
but then i saw mcfadden run for 45 yards. so i got happy again.
chaz schillens played really really good.
August 14th, 2009 at 11:46 pm
KK-practice games.try different things and see what works.see who can do what.everyone wants diversity-trial and error.
August 14th, 2009 at 11:56 pm
I seriously hope that rush 3 crap is just to see how it works in the preseason, and then once the season actually starts, Marshall will unleash the HOUNDS OF HELL!
Wasn’t it Al Davis who coined, “The Quarterback must go down, and go down hard?”
Maybe if your three man rush consisted of Strahan, Reggie White, and Mean Joe Green in their primes, it might work, but with our personnel on the D-line, we aint got no business rushing 3 people. Fact not fiction.
August 15th, 2009 at 12:19 am
i would like t see paul mcquistan at the right guard spot . he plays physical. his holding penalty looked more like he pancaked the guy . cooper got to go a year ago. i think we’re gonna be an exciting team to watch. we will score points. the question is can we stop teams fom scoring . the d-line concerns me .hope we use the blitz and often. i think we will be hard to beat at home this year 6-7 wins ,easy our mystique at home is gonna be back. it’s what we do on the road. we beat the chargers weak one the division is ours we will finish 1st or 2nd . we are gonna surprise
but we will only go as far as the defense takes us.
we could make the post season or be the best team that don’t this year .we are 1or 2 stud d-tackles and two stud offensive linemen away.
maybe we can get a 3rd rounder for garcia and one for fargas. love fargas but we can’t let rankin go he’s like bush and dmac combined .
i know it’s only one game but cable seems to have a plan . players are gonna want to be apart of this young talented up and coming team………
believe that the greatness of he raiders is in it’s futcha !!!!!!!
August 15th, 2009 at 12:50 am
Kush Says:
August 14th, 2009 at 11:56 pm
I seriously hope that rush 3 crap is just to see how it works in the preseason,
…..
Ha ha ha. Haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa, ha ha ha ha ha ha ha. Haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa ha ha ha ha ha. Oh my…
August 15th, 2009 at 12:52 am
lefty12 Says:
August 14th, 2009 at 8:01 pm
MR-are you one of those people who was a Raider fan in the late 70s and then became a whiner fan when Davis deserted us and moved to la la land?
…….
No.
August 15th, 2009 at 1:51 am
I remember back in the 80’s when some drunk at the bar would always shout, “It’s the year of the Falcons!”
Some might say the Raiders as of late have resembled those awful Falcon teams, but no more, I say!
I just polished of a bottle of Jameson 12 year and I loudly say, It’s the year of the Raiders!
August 15th, 2009 at 3:08 am
Random Drug Tester Says:
August 14th, 2009 at 6:33 pm
RaiderRon Says:
August 14th, 2009 at 4:54 pm
RaiderRon sux. He is a fringe poster at best.
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lmao
August 15th, 2009 at 3:09 am
Good Morning NATION!!!
August 15th, 2009 at 3:46 am
The reason we rush 3 at the goal-line is because our DT’s are waaaaaaaaaay 2 tall 2 bull-doze or submarine the O-line.You gotta get REAL-LOW 2 do those things and we are waaaaaay 2 tall to do those things.Soo…
Shawty needs 2 get low,imo =)
August 15th, 2009 at 4:40 am
rushing three just reminds me of the futile efforts of our defense over the past 6 years…
it is ineffective…
it is a recipe for disaster…
it is a hobbled prevent defense…
any smart quarterback will defeat it…
August 15th, 2009 at 4:46 am
it doesn’t look like K Morrison can get it done in the middle…
i’m not sure he ever could… Danny Clark should have been there for us instead of Kirk…
i’m not sure we have someone right now who would be a good MLB… but surely we have someone who can step in for a year…
maybe Minnesota needs a receiver… and we can get Brinkley… Brinkley right now is 3 on thier depth chart at MLB… could be an easy trade…
but we absolutely need someone to help with the run… in my humble opinion, Morrison was never that guy… the knock on him coming out of college was that he couldn’t shed blockers…
i think we are going to get run on all game by every team we face… and it will continue until we demonstrate that we can stop the run…
August 15th, 2009 at 5:18 am
Pete…
I think any mentally challenged QB could beat a 3 man rush,even one as challenged as Kyle Orton hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaaaaaaahahahahahahahahahah
August 15th, 2009 at 5:40 am
which WR of ours would you be willing 2 let go of Pete???
August 15th, 2009 at 5:56 am
Even tho he didnt possess Raider speed we shoulda kept Frantz Joseph just because he is a true MLB,imo
August 15th, 2009 at 6:14 am
What if the 3 man rush is Townsend,Long,Alzado ? Man I shouldn’t even think of that team I get misty eye,
August 15th, 2009 at 6:16 am
Branch looked really fast out their , a little wild for sure but would love to see him on blitz causing havok.
August 15th, 2009 at 6:26 am
NoMoreFargas Says:
August 15th, 2009 at 6:14 am
What if the 3 man rush is Townsend,Long,Alzado ? Man I shouldn’t even think of that team I get misty eye,
Well you do have a point there NMF,we also had the badazz LB’s then 2 =)
Not 2 much longer and you can finally change your name!!!
August 15th, 2009 at 6:32 am
Kush 71 …I saw it pretty equally. This is a 7-9 team. They could get better. But that defensive line is so so scary right now. (After them its the LBs then the depth at Corner)
August 15th, 2009 at 6:44 am
GOOD MORNING SPORT’S FAN’S,4EVA,NOMOREFARGAS,PETE, I STILL BELIEVE, IT COMES DOWN TO 2 SET’S OF THREE WORD’S, RUSH THE PASSER—STOP THE RUN. UNTIL THE RAIDER’S PROOVE THEY CAN DO BOTH CONSISTANTLY,…
August 15th, 2009 at 6:45 am
bombs4ya Says:
Did you used 2B RaiderRugas???
August 15th, 2009 at 6:46 am
Morning Dirt-Lot
August 15th, 2009 at 6:49 am
Thats one of the first things I noticed too in the game ….just how fast the team was. It was unreal. I can’t remember ever seeing a team this fast in recent memory. Speed was everywhere and speed kills.
August 15th, 2009 at 6:51 am
HEY 4EVA, HOW IS LIFE IN FLA. ANY LUCK ON THE WORK FRONT , ANYTHING OPENING UP OVER THERE ?
August 15th, 2009 at 6:55 am
The run D still scares me, the O looked much better but if we let teams take 10+play drives all the time It gonna be hard to get into a good rhythm . Oh well thats what pre-season is for to work on you’re weakness.
August 15th, 2009 at 6:58 am
Dirt-Lot ,It seems 2B More jobs are coming on-line and I’ve filled them out but checks in the mail so 2 speak.Only 1500 more dollars and I can get my contractors licence but outta work so no 1500.But it will come sooner or later just must have patience,I keep telling my-self =)
August 15th, 2009 at 7:06 am
[...] Cable wants Raiders feeling low – Inside the Oakland Raiders – A look inside the world of the highly… Quote: [...]
August 15th, 2009 at 7:19 am
4EVA, THAT IS THE ‘OL CATCH-22, GOT TO HAVE MONEY 4 TRAINING TO GET A JOB, GOT 2 HAVE A JOB TO HAVE THE MONEY, HANG IN THERE MAN,GOOD THINGS COME TO GOOD PEOPLE , YOU WILL BE OK..BE BACK LATER. SOME WORK 2 WRAP-UP, GOOD DAY TO ALL
August 15th, 2009 at 7:37 am
thankx Dirt-Lot =)
August 15th, 2009 at 7:39 am
Al, it’s time to go to work and make a trade for a DT or a MLB.
The bait, Johnny Lee Higgins. Yeah, I hate to do it but Nick Miller can take his spot.
Get out of bed and start working the phone.
August 15th, 2009 at 7:44 am
why not just trade Nick Miller???
August 15th, 2009 at 7:48 am
That 2nd drive was more about Stanford Routt and Trevor Scott than anything.
Routt got beat by Williams on an out play.
Scott and Routt totally bit on the reverse for big yards.
Routt got manhandled by Williams on the Felix Jones (remember Nnamdi stopping that play on the first drive?) while Scott was tossed out of the way by the LT.
Routt got flagged for defensive holding on Williams.
Routt got beat by the TE for 6.
Not sure how upgrading the DT spot would’ve helped any of that.
August 15th, 2009 at 7:48 am
He’s an unknown commodity.
August 15th, 2009 at 7:51 am
well I believe Johnnie Lee is 2 hot a commodity.I hope he stays a long time and is there 2 lift the trophy
August 15th, 2009 at 7:59 am
I like JLH too, maybe Fargus and/or Morrison, but I don’t think so.
Desperate times call for desperate measures.
August 15th, 2009 at 8:18 am
throw in Yvonne 2
August 15th, 2009 at 8:29 am
Good Morning Nation.
I think we should trade Yvonne, AFLAC, and a QB for a good DT. IMO
August 15th, 2009 at 8:35 am
Raider O
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August 15th, 2009 at 8:37 am
It wont let me post the rest O
August 15th, 2009 at 8:40 am
All this comes from Gibson.com
August 15th, 2009 at 8:46 am
Oaklifer
Thanks man, I’m in.
August 15th, 2009 at 8:55 am
just 2 make sure Bob
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NATION
August 15th, 2009 at 8:56 am
Let’s see if the DL performance is addressed. Sands was a no show on the field. For those of you who watched the whole game it was very noticeable how Boschetti’s high motor play made a difference. It’s time for change!!!!!!!!!
August 15th, 2009 at 8:58 am
4eva,
That’s great, thank you. I’m shopping at pawn shops now. I want to spend $300 on a guitar, soft case, and a book on how to learn.
August 15th, 2009 at 8:59 am
As far as Schilens is concerned, he certainly looks the part, with elite size, speed and good hands, but he might still be sneaking up on people.
Dallas was clearly more concerned with DHB getting open downfield so Chaz was able to step up, it’s gonna be interesting to see what happens if teams start paying more attention to Chaz than to DHB, that’s when DHB needs to make them pay.
August 15th, 2009 at 9:00 am
I got it, thanks 4eva, are you in? what’s your team?.
August 15th, 2009 at 9:01 am
O
make sure you look in the classified section of your local newspaper…Lots of people are hurting now and it’s sad 2 say you could find a great deal
August 15th, 2009 at 9:01 am
4eva,
* ONENATION
August 15th, 2009 at 9:04 am
Bob & 4eva,
I will destroy you!!! O Raiders to win it all!!!!
August 15th, 2009 at 9:07 am
4eva,
Aren’t we all in the dame FFL?!!
August 15th, 2009 at 9:09 am
Yep I’m in Bob…I am the Ta-Da Rowdy Riffers =)
August 15th, 2009 at 9:10 am
4eva,
I’m not in a rush, so I will wait till I get exactly what I want. lol
August 15th, 2009 at 9:10 am
O Raiders will meet there match when the play the Riffers!!!
Whats your team Bob???
August 15th, 2009 at 9:11 am
As preseason moves on, another RB in the league may get hurt, increasing the trade value for Fargas. A fifth rounder maybe? I would sure like to keep Rankin if possible. Gary Russell will also get picked up by somebody if he is let go.
August 15th, 2009 at 9:11 am
* thankx O
August 15th, 2009 at 9:12 am
Good bad and ugly
http://www.raidernationstation.com/2009_pre_season
August 15th, 2009 at 9:13 am
I’m in the second league, I think you guys are in the first one.
August 15th, 2009 at 9:13 am
Only one preseason game, but Schillens made some pro bowl type plays. We need to see more of Slade Norris too. He made some nice plays, fast and strong, good tackler (again, first impressions only).
August 15th, 2009 at 9:15 am
Yep I’m in the 1st league so you can thank your lucky stars Bob.I’ll tell you that 4 nothing =)
August 15th, 2009 at 9:15 am
That should be fun, I never played FF before.
August 15th, 2009 at 9:16 am
These are the teams in the second league so far…
raidersince87
Marley Raiders
Chris in NY
RaidOrDie2
RAYOS-X
I know Chris in NY, but I don’t know who the other guys are….
August 15th, 2009 at 9:16 am
Looked ok. Lots of improvements to make but Cable was dead on about playing too high. Sands was stood up all over the place.
August 15th, 2009 at 9:16 am
NoMoreFargas Says:
August 15th, 2009 at 6:16 am
Branch looked really fast out their , a little wild for sure but would love to see him on blitz causing havok.
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On the 3rd play of the game, he timed his blitz beautifully, beat the RB to the edge and forced Romo to loft a wobbler down the sideline incomplete (great coverage by Nmamdi as usual), and force a punt. Loved what I say there. He also made two third tackles short of the sticks, including one on that Bennett TE kid who looks like a beast. I thought Branch looked real good out there, especially when I watched it a second time.
August 15th, 2009 at 9:17 am
188. SLADE!
He did look good against the run, but needs to round his game in coverage and pass rush.
August 15th, 2009 at 9:18 am
4eva
I would crush you.
Chris in NY is a smart guy, knows football, I’ve always liked his posts, I’m looking forward to that matchup.
August 15th, 2009 at 9:19 am
Orton Sucks! LMFAO!!!
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/recap?gid=20090814025&prov=ap
August 15th, 2009 at 9:23 am
Nnamdi,
Thad for the article. I agree, but I thought JR and Satele played well.
IMO these players didn’t play well:
Kirk
T Scott
Our DTs
AFLAC
CJ
Stanford
August 15th, 2009 at 9:24 am
Man this stuff is great!!!
August 15th, 2009 at 9:26 am
Raider O…
Go to vanderbilly.com and click on the orange box!!!
August 15th, 2009 at 9:27 am
I think Raiderodie2 is OAKlifer
August 15th, 2009 at 9:30 am
I like our Offense. Add another OT, a G to compete, and we should be great. We are young and very talented.
Our Defense has talent, but not enough. We need to invest more in our front 4/7. The Defense lacks high draft picks with talent. No one in the front 7 was a 1st RD pick except Warren, and he wasn’t drafted by us.
August 15th, 2009 at 9:36 am
I still believe that we are sorting out the low “value” players on this roster. Low production relative to salary.
Kelly at $14 mill, Sands at $3 mill and Warren at $5 mill per YEAR are very poor value at this point.
Kelly will get this year to prove himself after ACL comeback last season.
IMO we will wait to final cuts and pick up at least one available DT letting Sands or Warren go.
We did it with Burgess (very poor value) and the Dline still is in need of personnel change.
What happened against Dallas on run defense was not Rob Ryan’s fault. (Hint- It never was).
August 15th, 2009 at 9:38 am
4eva,
Dude!! Thank you so much. Free lessons! I love it.
I can’t wait to buy it, and start playing. After I learn how to play, then I will start to play electric.
August 15th, 2009 at 9:40 am
Charlie,
The Run D wasn’t RR’s fault, but that prevent defense was. I hate Robo!
August 15th, 2009 at 9:41 am
Slade looked better than Morrison. I am sick of people running over us all the time.
August 15th, 2009 at 9:44 am
Yep its a great site Raider O
I could never figure out the tuning to the Rain Song by Led Zeppelin but could vanderbilly and now I just about got the song down!!! man I love that song =)!!!
August 15th, 2009 at 9:45 am
Slade looks good as a SAM. I want a real MLB, bring back Frantz!
August 15th, 2009 at 9:48 am
HERE HERE BRIN BACK FRANTZ JOSEPH
PAGING FRANTZ JOSEPH
PAGING FRANTZ JOSEPH
Will Frantz Joseph please come back
August 15th, 2009 at 9:48 am
4eva,
I love Led, The Doors, Pink, RS, Eagles, beach-boys, Bob D, and the master of electric Mr. Hendrix.
August 15th, 2009 at 9:50 am
“I hear the music in my head”
- JH
August 15th, 2009 at 9:54 am
He is available.
Bring back Frantz! Atleast let him compete, and shows us what he can do on the field with contact.
August 15th, 2009 at 9:57 am
the best thing about vanderbilly is it can show you your very 1st NOTE ever and its got ALL chord and lead theory you will ever need
August 15th, 2009 at 9:59 am
DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL Says:
August 15th, 2009 at 6:51 am
HEY 4EVA, HOW IS LIFE IN FLA. ANY LUCK ON THE WORK FRONT , ANYTHING OPENING UP OVER THERE ?
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i can tell you that SW fla is horrible right now…
i’ve laid off everyone… literally everyone… the last two people got laid off 2 weeks ago…
i get reports from the state unemployment people…
the list of former employees still drawing unemployment is long… a lot of them have moved back north…
anybody here in the telecom business??? engineering that is…
August 15th, 2009 at 10:02 am
Linebackers can make individual plays but more often than not they need help from the front four.
Ray Lewis threatened to retire unless the Ravens improved the DT spot. They drafted Ngata in the first round.
Diline is by far the weakest unit on this team and it is going to take more than coaching to address it.
We need better players.
August 15th, 2009 at 10:06 am
bad in the Tampa area 2 Pete.Been a commercial plumber 23 years and never seen it this bad.Been laid-off since a week B4 Christmas.Good thing GF works at the hospital
August 15th, 2009 at 10:11 am
I’ll be back later Nation.
Later Gents.
4eva,
Thank you for all the info and the site bro. You are a good man.
August 15th, 2009 at 10:13 am
=)
August 15th, 2009 at 10:15 am
4eva,
Back in the early 90’s I ran across a Guitar World mag that had The Rain Song from TSRTS tabbed out!! One of my faves by far. The solo for No Quarter that VB put on youtube(before his website) got me back in to playin. That was awesome!!
August 15th, 2009 at 10:15 am
well then nthat means its time 2
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August 15th, 2009 at 10:16 am
Hey Saint!!!
August 15th, 2009 at 10:19 am
Our DT’s suck. Our D Ends are inexperienced besides Ellis. Kirk Morrisson should not be the middle linebacker.
We need to blitz in the right situations. Since when has 3rd and long ever been the time to rush 3 people and generate no pressure?
Whether Al Davis calls the plays on defense or not, I blame him because he has watched that same crappy scheme for years and has refused to step in and do something about it.
We’ve seen for years that that rush 3 people crap DOESN’T WORK WITH OUR PERSONNEL, yet Al continues to allow it. Either draft or trade for stud tackles or stop doing that crap. It’s not rocket science guys, really.
August 15th, 2009 at 10:19 am
A couple guys on the O -Line who I thought played well were RG Marcus Johnson and Eric Pears.
Johnson looked like a beast out there at RG against 2nd and 3rd teamers! Lets hope he pushes Carlisle!
So glad Coach Cable recognized that the team as whole were playing way to high.
The O-Lines and D-Lines need to play a whole lot LOWER and the D-Line needs to play lower, be more aggressive, and use their hands to hand fight more and to disengage from blocks.
Brown may be the MIKE and Morrison may get moved to SAM….with Slade Norris getting good playing time as well.
I want to see more of Boschetti on the 1st team rotation at DT!
August 15th, 2009 at 10:20 am
I dont know how 2 read tabs,I play by ear.Would like 2 know how but with Vanderbilly there is no need,imo
Byt yeah Saint the whole Graffiti album is the BOMB!!!
Donw by the Seaside is sweeter than sweet,imo =)
August 15th, 2009 at 10:21 am
Hey DKnight
Have you joined OAKlifers second fantasy league?.
August 15th, 2009 at 10:22 am
Saintkauffman? Kush?
August 15th, 2009 at 10:22 am
beer run !!!
August 15th, 2009 at 10:24 am
Wassup Bob Marley. Never played fantasy football before.
August 15th, 2009 at 10:26 am
Kush
There’s that league if you have the time and wanna give it a try…
It would be great to have long time posters playing..do your Al Davis GM impression maybe…
August 15th, 2009 at 10:27 am
be right back..
August 15th, 2009 at 10:28 am
Bob Marley Says:
August 15th, 2009 at 10:21 am
Hey DKnight
Have you joined OAKlifers second fantasy league?.
^^^^^^^Not yet….I will look into it later in the afternoon after work.
August 15th, 2009 at 10:30 am
My honest opinion is that we have the ability to be a better defense, but it’s going to take a rearranging of our front 7.
It’s time to move Kirk from the Middle linebacker position. He’s not effective there. Sands sucks. He should be replaced by Boschetti immediately.
O’shaughnessy and should play opposite Ellis at the end spot. Scott is a pass rusher. He gets manhandled too much.
Never rush less than 4 people with our personnel. Especially on 3rd down.
To me those few adjustments will move us up about 7-9 spots in our defensive rankings because what we have been doing and continued to do last Thursday, IS NOT WORKING.
August 15th, 2009 at 10:42 am
DKnight
Ok, the info was posted above.
Have a good one, see you later people.
August 15th, 2009 at 10:51 am
Yeah I wonder what the hell we’re doing rushing 3 guys.We got 1 of the best D-backfields there is,why dosent Big Al trust them and rush 5
August 15th, 2009 at 10:52 am
Bob Marley Says:
August 15th, 2009 at 10:42 am
DKnight
Ok, the info was posted above.
Have a good one, see you later people.
^^^^^^I got the info yesterday…
Boschetti should be given an opportunity to start or at least replace that Big underachieving Turd as the backup to Warren or Kelly. I would actually like to see Boschetti start ahead of Warren. Did the big Turd even show up on Thursday?
Johnson should keep be getting first team reps and competing heavily against the Carlisle at RG as well.
I would like to see what Johnson can do with the first teamers…..he looked like a beast out there at RG against 2nd and 3rd teamers on Thursday.
August 15th, 2009 at 10:56 am
I am generally of the opinion that talent is about 80% of the reason teams perform the way they do. Sure, schemes can help but we have not had the talent to compete for years.
I think that has changed in all areas except the Dline.
I do believe we will be making more changes on this unit before the season starts.
Other than Ellis and Kelly I believe it is wide open.
Any other player on the Dline could be gone at any time.
The help we will get this year could come after final cutdowns the week before the opener.
I do not like it any more than the rest of you but until we spend a first or second round pick on this unit, that is what we are facing.
August 15th, 2009 at 11:01 am
I still see that some fans think we should call our defense differently even though Ryan has departed.
Our DC calls the game the way he does because our Dline is weak. Defense starts with the front four. Period.
Blitzing 70% of the time is not the answer.
NFL offenses will shred a team that is that predictable.
If our front four played better alot of problems go away.
August 15th, 2009 at 11:08 am
Charlie Says:
August 15th, 2009 at 11:01 am
I still see that some fans think we should call our defense differently even though Ryan has departed.
Our DC calls the game the way he does because our Dline is weak. Defense starts with the front four. Period.
Blitzing 70% of the time is not the answer.
NFL offenses will shred a team that is that predictable.
If our front four played better alot of problems go away.
^^^^^^Oh I agree….thats why offenses have a field day on us (when they run because of a lack of penetration, staying low, effort, and gap discipline and when they pass, because of lack of consistent pressure, and lack of blitzing) because if the front four is weak, then things need to be mixed up and disguised to make up for that weakness. Rushing four players and 80% of the time isn’t going to cut it either.
Just like how an OC needs to mix it up on offense to keep defenses off balance….a DC needs to be on his toes and mix up the looks, stunts, and schemes on defense to keep offenses off balance.
August 15th, 2009 at 11:18 am
DKnight,
I agree 110% with your last post. Needing to change the looks on D is essential, but that doesn’t necessarily mean blitz all the time. When you rush 4 all the time and don’t mix it up much it is a bad recipe, especially if you are lacking talent (as we are). Lack of talent mixed with predictability equals games like the Patriots game where they could have scored 70 points if they had to. If you are the Ravens you can just line up and say bring it, but we are about the furthest thing on D from them.
August 15th, 2009 at 11:24 am
Rushing 3 people on 3rd and long or 3rd and goal isn’t the answer either.
Whatever happened to “The Quarterback Must Go Down, And Go Down Hard.”
Al isn’t even living by his own philosophies these days.
That defense we play is ridiculous.
August 15th, 2009 at 11:32 am
Dark Knight
Most football people consider Marshall to be pretty good at what he does. I do remember the day when we could get sacks rushing three.(We had better players).
Schemes will never disguise a lack of talent along the line.
I think we need to be resigned to the fact that our defense will be average this year.
Ithink we have built this team from the outside in with the last pieces to be the lines.
I do not like it because I think it takes longer to win that way. If you have the patience it can be very rewarding like the Cowboys teams of the early nineties with Aikman,Smith and Irvin.
August 15th, 2009 at 11:38 am
So fuking awesome!!!
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=ap-broncos-strugglingorton&prov=ap&type=lgns
McDaniels is sticking by Orton.
Moreno may be out with leg injury.
This is the best news for Raider fans in years!
Couldn’t happen to a nicer bunch of fans. Take that Broncos!!!
August 15th, 2009 at 11:39 am
Rushing 3 on a 3rd and 7 or a 3rd and 10 is not good…. rushing 3 in the red zone or on a 3rd and goal is no good…. rushing 3 on 3rd and 20, I have no problem with….
When the DC blitzes, then use the speed guys on defense to get to the freakin QB. Guys like Howard, Brown, Norris, and Scott. On a safety or corner blitz, lets see Branch, Mitchell, Huff, Routte and sometimes Nnamdi get in their an attack that QB from anywhere on the field….with their closing speed they will get a sack or at least disrupt the QB’s timing….
August 15th, 2009 at 11:41 am
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August 15th, 2009 at 11:41 am
Kush Says:
August 15th, 2009 at 11:24 am
Rushing 3 people on 3rd and long or 3rd and goal isn’t the answer either.
Whatever happened to “The Quarterback Must Go Down, And Go Down Hard.”
Al isn’t even living by his own philosophies these days.
That defense we play is ridiculous
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Its pre season and coverage is more important to emphasise than rushing.
Plus, who wants to give away what D they’ll be playing and how good (or bad) it might be in a frikkin pre season game?
Lot of 2nd 3rd stringers out there too.
August 15th, 2009 at 11:42 am
243. Jay zuz! Thats the longest messiest fukin link I’ve ever seen attempted! lol!
August 15th, 2009 at 11:43 am
Please not much blitzing of Nmamdi. That was the Chuck Breshanan special, he would drop Upshaw in coverage (maybe our best pass rusher) and than send our best cover guy (C-Wood) to rush the passer. Completely azz-backwards and Shannon Sharpe torched us because of it. You gotta put players in scenarios where they just focus on what they do best.
August 15th, 2009 at 11:46 am
238. We’re different on D with a different mission statement than most teams including the Ravens so its like comparing apples and kitchen sinks.
D is built to pass rush and cover the pass.
Offense has to put up points and control the clock in order for that type of D scheme to be maximized.
Thats the furthest thing to happen in the last 6 yrs.
August 15th, 2009 at 11:46 am
Yeah Nnamdi, or just copy the discription of the patch & look it up on e bay. only $8. I agree about the preseason D, I hope they see enough to change things. # man rush???! How intimidating. Stop the run!!!
August 15th, 2009 at 11:49 am
4evaRaider Says:
August 15th, 2009 at 10:51 am
Yeah I wonder what the hell we’re doing rushing 3 guys.We got 1 of the best D-backfields there is,why dosent Big Al trust them and rush 5
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Pre season.
August 15th, 2009 at 11:51 am
Nmamdi,
Mission statements for companies are usually full of worthless rhetoric that sounds great. I just want to stop the team from scoring points. Our improved offense this year should help take a lot of pressure off the D. But it could work the other way, where the D is so bad it will add pressure on the offense to score and score often.
But hey at least the Donkeys look great!! LOL
August 15th, 2009 at 11:53 am
248. SWEET!
Man, Morrison could lose his job if he keeps playing like he did / has.
Raider Nation Station seemed to be th only ones bashing on Morrison the last few years and it just seemed like it wasn’t right, but watching the games over and over, he’s constantly out of position, making bad calls and whiffing open field tackles.
Could be good at weak or strong, but he has sucked at MIKE.
August 15th, 2009 at 11:54 am
Moreno of the Donkos just has a sprain unfortunately.
August 15th, 2009 at 11:55 am
until we have an elite… and i mean currently elite… not a has been…
defensive player on the line… preferably a pass rushing and run defending end… an every down player…
we should not and can not have a three man rush…
it just doesn’t work…
oh, and my particular philosophy…
always always always have a player run with his strength…
no DEs in coverage…
no DTs in coverage…
no blitzing nnamdi…
August 15th, 2009 at 11:55 am
You rush three occasionally on third and long to mix things up. It makes an OC think twice about a screen or draw in those situations.
(Watch what happens to a screen when you rush three).
Schemes will not be our problem this year. It will be our base defense stopping the run.
If we do not do that teams will run to set up the pass and then we will wonder why we are getting shredded through the air.
It all starts with the Dline.
August 15th, 2009 at 11:56 am
250. Dear gawd lets hope not. Our offense has been so frikkin awful the last few years I’m not sure they could carry the day.
August 15th, 2009 at 11:58 am
Worried about Moreno running against us. Lets hope the Donkos D still suggz azz…
August 15th, 2009 at 12:02 pm
Moreno is the wild-card in the Cutler trade. We all know Orton is not the long-term answer, and may not be the short-term either, but they used the pick they got from the Bears to grab Yesshawn. He was a beast in college, and Georgia’s history of great backs is pretty impressive. Injuries maybe an issue with him, he runs very hard for a guy his size.
August 15th, 2009 at 12:10 pm
Nnamdi21 Says:
August 15th, 2009 at 11:42 am
243. Jay zuz! Thats the longest messiest fukin link I’ve ever seen attempted! lol!
lmao
August 15th, 2009 at 12:15 pm
I agree Vegas…I DID NOT want Moreno anywhere us…soo we’ll just hav 2 stomp his azz
August 15th, 2009 at 12:19 pm
SaintKaufman…you playing with anyone ???
August 15th, 2009 at 12:21 pm
4eva, you and I are the two FFL “virgins” in our league apparently. We got to put these stat junkies in their place, lol.
August 15th, 2009 at 12:34 pm
SaintKaufman…you playing with anyone ???
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That’s kinda personal don’t you think?
August 15th, 2009 at 12:35 pm
Charlie, Florida Pete,
We have what we have on defense. We know what the problems are and there were opportunities to at least “try” to address those problems a few months ago.
Tom Cable said John Marshall is going to fix everything. I am expecting nothing from the front 7 except Howard and Ellis. Nnamdi will be himself and C.J should be a star and watching Branch develop should be fun.
Its about the offense in Oakland.
August 15th, 2009 at 12:38 pm
They are showing the game again on NFLN at 1 pm.
August 15th, 2009 at 12:39 pm
Ellis is going to be good rushing the passer, but on the Dallas TD drive, Ellis was getting shoved around on the goalline by Witten, a freakin TE!! Our run D is going to rely on Kelly, Morrison and Howard to make the occassional play and pray like mad for holding calls.
August 15th, 2009 at 12:39 pm
Nnamdi21,
Can you explain to me how this “pass cover” defense is supposed to work in November and December?
Stopping the run is like eating your vegetables. You don’t like doing it…but the rewards to your health are great.
Here’s what I think is going on in Oakland. Al Davis believes in placing his investment in elite athletes. What are elite athletes to Davis….Exceptional speed and athleticsm.
Davis will always invest high draft picks in skill position players and the occassional outside linebacker.
He neglects the lines because he undervalues them. “Its just big guys…any big guy can play with proper coaching.” I bet you $1 that this is his philosophy.
August 15th, 2009 at 12:44 pm
Florida Pete, Charlie,
What ticks me off is that the Raiders recognized there was weakness at MLB, SLB and DT. But because these positions are undervalued…the Raiders decided to go to the flea market to decorate the house.
Bring in Franz Joseph, convert a TE to MLB…..that’s the answer for serving up competition at MLB
Bring in Desmond Bryant and Ryan Boschetti…..that’s the answer for serving up competition at DT
See, the Raiders don’t give a damn about the front 7. Never have and never will. They spent their money and time on bringing in TWO wide receivers another safety and some special teams players.
Its on John Marshall to make chicken salad out of……
August 15th, 2009 at 12:45 pm
S&B,
Al doesn’t neglect the lines.
Gallery and Grove were our 1st 2 picks in that draft.
As for the Dline, we drafted Brayton in the 1st.
We have out skill guys, and now we need to improve our lines.
If Al doesn’t draft Linemen next year, then I will agree with you.
August 15th, 2009 at 12:47 pm
vegas raider Says:
August 15th, 2009 at 12:21 pm
4eva, you and I are the two FFL “virgins” in our league apparently. We got to put these stat junkies in their place, lol.
They wont even know what hit ‘em Vegas
August 15th, 2009 at 12:54 pm
It’s a great Saturday to be a Raiders fan. Isn’t it?!
Bob Marley — I thank you very much for the invite, but I can’t guarantee full participation all season long…so, I regretfully must decline the invitation. (Unlike Randy Moss, I believe in giving 100% to my team/league when I’m in it.)
I’m sure if I were in it, though…I’d win it all! Ha
August 15th, 2009 at 12:54 pm
The Virgins will destroy the Stat Junkies!
August 15th, 2009 at 12:55 pm
foi gras
August 15th, 2009 at 12:57 pm
go virgins !!!
August 15th, 2009 at 12:58 pm
For you FFL virgins…you can never have enough RB’s. Remember that. RB’s.
And…don’t take the Raiders Defense with your second pick.
And, don’t forget…RB’s.
August 15th, 2009 at 12:58 pm
I dont know what that means =)
August 15th, 2009 at 12:59 pm
Florida Pete Says:
August 15th, 2009 at 12:57 pm
go virgins !!!
They still make them???
August 15th, 2009 at 1:00 pm
Who cares about the defense anyway.
ITs the offense that gets me excited about this season.
The Raiders just have to tighten up the timing on those deep throws. For whatever reason, Russell is struggling with those throws.
Fortunately for the Raiders, Russell is doing well on the short and intermediate throws. Those are the most important for consistently moving the ball down the field.
Man, if the Raiders can hit on one or two 40+ throws a game….offense will be all good.
I can’t wait to see DMAC and Bush line up in the backfield!
August 15th, 2009 at 1:04 pm
SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
August 15th, 2009 at 1:00 pm
Who cares about the defense anyway.
You do my SnB Brother and me2
August 15th, 2009 at 1:07 pm
SnB,
I think Russell has too much arm for some of those deep throws, the ball just flutters. His best use of his arm strength is when he zips those 15-20 lasers out there. On the deep balls, it just doesn’t seem like a fluid motion.
As a comparision, in baseball, pitchers that throw in the mid 90’s usually always struggle throwing the intentional balls when intentionally walking a guy. The will be all over the place because they struggle with throws that require 60% effort. Jamarcus can throw the ball 65+ yards, so he doesn’t know what to do when throwing a ball 45 yards with some touch. He may never be a great deep-ball thrower.
August 15th, 2009 at 1:11 pm
4evaRaider Says:
August 15th, 2009 at 1:04 pm
SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
August 15th, 2009 at 1:00 pm
Who cares about the defense anyway.
You do my SnB Brother and me2
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I know….I know…you are so right…but all that will happen is I will get upset and disappointed.
I am going to hope the defense sorts itself out. They still have three weeks left to get things right. I just think there is more to be excited about on the offensive side of the ball.
August 15th, 2009 at 1:14 pm
vegas raider Says:
August 15th, 2009 at 1:07 pm
SnB,
I think Russell has too much arm for some of those deep throws, the ball just flutters. His best use of his arm strength is when he zips those 15-20 lasers out there. On the deep balls, it just doesn’t seem like a fluid motion.
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If he can zip those 15-20 yd lasers in tight spaces and hit the short passes with consistency….this offense, and Russell, will be ok.
As for the deep balls…you might be right. Hopefully Hackett can work with him on that…because the Raiders have some receivers that can get down the field
August 15th, 2009 at 1:15 pm
SnB is correct. Al doesn’t understand that the game is won in the trenches. Al drafted DBs in the first round in 5 of 8 drafts. DBs??? WTF?
August 15th, 2009 at 1:18 pm
4evaRaider Says:
August 15th, 2009 at 12:59 pm
Florida Pete Says:
August 15th, 2009 at 12:57 pm
go virgins !!!
They still make them???
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all it takes is a stitch…
August 15th, 2009 at 1:20 pm
I think Russell is just trying to pinpoint those deep throws more than he needs to. Put the deep ball in the right area, and let those guys go get it…every great deep-threat QB has guys who adjust to his ball, and JaMarcus should be no different. His WR’s need to be able to adjust on the fly (pun intended).
Dan Fouts was one of the worst “great” deep-ball-throwing QB’s I’ve ever seen in person, but his receivers were all ball-hawks. Now he, and a bunch of his receivers are in the HOF. Kurt Warner’s one of the most accurate QB’s of all time, but he also has Fitz and Q catching almost everything he throws their direction (like he had with Bruce/Holt, too). Montana had Rice and Taylor; Bradshaw had Stallworth and (gag) Swann — all adept deep route runners.
Every successful deep-throwing QB needs those kinds of targets. I think JaMarcus has his, and he just needs to start trusting that gun of his to get it out there…and trusting his guys to go and get it when he lets it loose.
August 15th, 2009 at 1:24 pm
HayesDaze37 Says:
August 15th, 2009 at 1:20 pm
I think Russell is just trying to pinpoint those deep throws more than he needs to. Put the deep ball in the right area, and let those guys go get it…every great deep-threat QB has guys who adjust to his ball, and JaMarcus should be no different. His WR’s need to be able to adjust on the fly (pun intended).
Dan Fouts was one of the worst “great” deep-ball-throwing QB’s I’ve ever seen in person, but his receivers were all ball-hawks. Now he, and a bunch of his receivers are in the HOF. Kurt Warner’s one of the most accurate QB’s of all time, but he also has Fitz and Q catching almost everything he throws their direction (like he had with Bruce/Holt, too). Montana had Rice and Taylor; Bradshaw had Stallworth and (gag) Swann — all adept deep route runners.
Every successful deep-throwing QB needs those kinds of targets. I think JaMarcus has his, and he just needs to start trusting that gun of his to get it out there…and trusting his guys to go and get it when he lets it loose.
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it’s not something i had thought about…
but i think you are absolutely right…
receiver needs to go get it…
it would be awesome if they could work out the timing on it…
August 15th, 2009 at 1:29 pm
Vegas — I know a guy who played in some FFL in Vegas last year, and won a VIP WEEK ON AN ISLAND BEACH WITH NFL CHEERLEADERS DURING THEIR SWIMSUIT CALENDAR SHOOT.
Find that fantasy league.
August 15th, 2009 at 1:36 pm
find it!!!!
find it!!!
August 15th, 2009 at 1:51 pm
Hayez,
I’m out of the FFL loop bro can’t help much. I know they have some nation-wide contests and the FFL Super Bowl week is held out here and there is some crazy prizes. On a beach with cheerleaders, don’t know if I could get the wife to sign off on that one.
August 15th, 2009 at 2:13 pm
He took his wife. It was worth it!
August 15th, 2009 at 2:14 pm
Gotta run…later!
Go Raiders
August 15th, 2009 at 3:06 pm
Who says we cant draft players. The 07 draft looks like one solid draft. JRuss; Zack Miller; Mario Henderson; JLH; Michael Bush; Oren Oneal;
thats a set of solid starters.
08 Draft
DMAC
Tyvon has potential
Trevor Scott has potential
Chaz Schillens lookin like that posession recieving monster.
August 15th, 2009 at 3:18 pm
You’re right about the 07 draft, some people see the glass half empty some the glass half full. I look at the as being too f*cking BIG!
August 18th, 2009 at 12:07 am
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