Postgame wrap
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Friday, August 14th, 2009 at 12:02 am in Oakland Raiders.
News, notes and quotes from the Raiders’ 31-10 win over the Dallas Cowboys Thursday night at the Coliseum:
– Second-year receiver Chaz Schilens seconded the notion offered by JaMarcus Russell that much of Oakland’s struggles with the passing game during Tuesday’s practice had to do with familiarity.
“We just got in a funk,” Schilens said. “We’ve practicing against the same guys every day. They’re smart guys. They are going to pick up on what we’re doing. It came together today.”
– Assessments of Schilens, Russell and McFadden are included my my Web exclusive column.
– Coach Tom Cable, making it clear Russell’s reporting weight was an issue: “That’s between he and I and we’re working on that. He’s doing really good right now.”
– Rookie first-round draft pick Darrius Heyward-Bey had a modest 8-yard gain for his first reception, and missed a chance to come up with a big play on the third play from scrimmage. However, safety Ken Hamlin broke up the pass which was just underthrown from JaMarcus Russell.
“I knew the ball might be coming my way,” Heyward-Bey said. “Outside release, corner did a good job, safety got over and helped pretty fast. Tried to make a play, didn’t happen.”
– With the Raiders in a burn-the-clock mode late in the game, Gary Russell played the role Michael Bush will get during the season and finished with 11 carries for 44 yards.
– Three players did not finish the game. John Wade left with a stinger, Nnamdi Asomugha with a heel bruise and Isaiah Ekejiuba with a shoulder injury. Becasue of Wade’s injury, Samson Satele played much of the game at center.
– A whopping 18 diffeernt players were targeted for 37 passes by Gradkowski, Frye and Russell. Fifteen different players accounted for 22 receptions.
“We now have a talented group there,” Cable said. “It’s nice to see a bunch of guys catching balls and making plays. We need that if we’re going to grow offensively and become a good football team.”
– First a hip flexor, now a heel injury, hopefully it’s not one of those years for Nnamdi Asomugha, and Chris Johnson, battling a knee strain, needs to hold up as well.
Stanford Routt, who had a poor practice Tuesday, struggled against the Cowboys. And when the Raiders went late in the game to a secondary of John Bowie and Jason Horton and corner and Jerome Boyd and Darrick Brown at safeties, it was scary.
– Hard to know exactly what to expect from the defense with the first unit being on the field for such a short time.
The Cowboys scoring drive included an 8-yard gain by Marion Barber, a 14-yard run by Felix Jones and a 12-yard reverse by Patrick Crayton.
On the other hand, the Raiders were stout in forcing Dallas to a three-and-out on its first possession back at its own 7, with Asomugha dumping Barber for a yard loss.
“It was OK. It wasn’t great,” linebacker Thomas Howard said. “It’s early. We got out of our gaps and they creased is a little.”
– Shane Lechler is ready. Three punts, 45.0 yards gross, 44.3 net. One inside the 20.
– The Raiders outgained the Cowboys 456-274 and had 26 first downs _ 15 passing.
– Bruce Gradkowski and Charlie Frye were relatively even in terms of stats, but there were a couple of short throws on sideline passes which will be a staple of the Raiders offense that Gradkowski has trouble throwing.
On one play, he came up short to Louis Murphy, who picked it off the grass for a catch, only to have it correctly overturned by replay.
It’s worth noting that throw is not a strength of Jeff Garcia, either.
Charlie Frye showed a good awareness in the pocket of surrounding defenders and was able to get off completions.
– Players have the day off Friday, with Tom Cable available to the media for a 5 p.m. conference call.
For quick hit notes throughout the game, check my Twitter page.
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August 14th, 2009 at 12:04 am
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August 14th, 2009 at 12:07 am
At least our WR Corps could catch the ball.
August 14th, 2009 at 12:08 am
team looks really diciplined on offense and Mcfadden can block.
Just check out the hole Mcfadden made for that 18 scamper by JRussel.
August 14th, 2009 at 12:10 am
Thanks for the wrap Jerry.
Kind of what we’ve been reading from the blogs, offense looks like it’s improved, but D is still questionable.
August 14th, 2009 at 12:15 am
ya,Mac really put a hit on that blitzer on the sack of Russell early in the game.he reminded my of the way Jordan used to miss everyone.
August 14th, 2009 at 1:11 am
UNBELIEVABLE!!!! What a Great Team Effort!!! I dont want to see who gets cut! WE ARE TALENTED EVERYWHERE!!! Game is just now winding down, on my TV. STOKED!!! I AM
August 14th, 2009 at 1:17 am
Very SOUND PERFORMANCE!! Very Committed TO ONE PURPOSE!!!
YEEEEHAAA!!! JUST WIN BABY!!! And we did! I saw unlimited depth! I SAW A FKN TEAM!!!! RAIDER NATION UNITE!!!!
August 14th, 2009 at 1:22 am
The game’s on again right now in LA, on channel 5. If any of you are in LA right now and still up. It just started. Raiders’ first drive. For all of you burning the midnight tequila.
August 14th, 2009 at 1:25 am
Blowouts are always fun but I wasn’t too impressed with the first string lineups, when they were all playing together against Dallas’s first squad, like the 1st quarter pretty much. Mainly the playcalling. I know it’s pre season but we never change it. We always do what we do in the preseason. McFadden ripped one but it was against D’s second string. We have all the talent, and it seems Cable does have some of that Gruden style intensity. It is showing. But the playcalling is hideous. Russell forcing two deep balls into coverage, getting a call on the second one, which shouldn’t have even happened because that first shot should have been picked. Cowboy safety had it and dropped it. An offense that relies on the deep pass interference? That’s as same-ol-Raiders as it gets.
August 14th, 2009 at 1:37 am
Up close Frye looked the best at QB,…hopefully he makes the team,…Im hearing Garciawill be cut…Russell,..Frye…Gradkowski are the qb`s.
August 14th, 2009 at 1:44 am
MR,..you say the same ol raiders?…dude,..you really shouldtake as close a look at yourself as you do the raiders,…you think the raiders are stale and predictable, hence the “same ol”?…bud you are the most predictable “person” thats been whining on the message board for years,..and you get nowhere,…the same ol maddenraider,..a very lonely nobody that can only communicate in a negative and loser-mentality tone,..same ol maddenraider.,..by the way we had a blast at the game,..do you ever have fun bud?…nevermind, I know the answer to that one.
August 14th, 2009 at 1:49 am
I would love to see Gary Russell and Louis Rankin get a shot against a starting defence. DMC and Bush need to be saved for the real stuff and we know what Fargas can and can’t do – now is the time to see whether Russell and/or Rankin deserve to take spots in the 53.
Likewise at WR, Schilens is the starter – he needs to be protected and saved for the opener. Nick Miller is making some great plays, now he needs to be tested against the better DBs. Schilens, Higgins, Murphy and DHB are certainties for the 53, as is Walker if he returns to anything near his best. Miller looks the only realistic option if we take a 6th WR – because of his flexibility and special teams contribution. We just need to see if he can contribute against a real NFL Defence.
If JR is unchallengable and Frye and Gradkowski are good enough as back-ups, why waste time and media attention by keeping Garcia on the roster? I like Frye, he was unlucky to be cut be the Browns and Seattle never committed to giving him a serious chance – I think he is under-rated and can do a solid job as JR’s back-up.
Looks like we still need to find another RG. Carlisle got worked over last season and he struggles against bigger DLinemen. We need Johnson or Marten to offer a realistic (and stronger) alternative – otherwise we need to be scouring the waiver wires.
As for our own Dline. Scary. At DE, Ellis looks a good addition, Richardson can do a good job but Scott still looks underpowered against starting OTs and Shaughnessy and Gunheim don’t seem ready to make a serious contribution. As for our DTs – ouch! We have three of the highest paid DTs in the league (Kelly, Sands and Warren) but we still look unable to counter a half-decent running attack. There have to be some better options out there!
At least we might all get our wish and see Morrison moved to SAM. This blog has been saying for two seasons that he lacks the power to be a starting MLB. Finally, if Brown is providing a real alternative, we might just see Morrison moved outside. Where he should thrive. Especially if we can get Brooks to offer some leadership and situational support.
Finally, we look very vulnerable at CB. Asomugha and Johnson are fine but Routt is only effective as Nickel. The rest are rubbish.
August 14th, 2009 at 1:53 am
Hey how about the O-line play? Not bad!
August 14th, 2009 at 2:34 am
I guess we’ll draft the fastest CB next year then.
August 14th, 2009 at 2:34 am
How was our hitting and intensity? Didn’t see the game
August 14th, 2009 at 2:40 am
a pre-season win is a pre=season win,we’ll take it.Yes we need 4 Mark Wilson 2 step up at RG and we still need DT’s,imo.
August 14th, 2009 at 2:40 am
Oh and Good Morning NATION!!!
August 14th, 2009 at 2:44 am
Morning 4eva!
August 14th, 2009 at 2:45 am
MORNING COPENHAGEN!!!
August 14th, 2009 at 2:47 am
Hey Copenhagen…the dame was shown on
ATDHE.net
August 14th, 2009 at 2:48 am
Game not dame
August 14th, 2009 at 2:49 am
I think its on at 9am EST on nfl network
August 14th, 2009 at 2:54 am
And most definitely it is TIME 2 START DMAC.Fargas should see his role diminished and Bush should see increased time but the time has come 4Dmac 2B da MAN
August 14th, 2009 at 3:06 am
There is no joy in having a top 5 running game if we still have a bottom 5 run defence.
The FA lists are a bit threadbare at the moment but there are still a few solid veteran DTs around: John Thornton (ex-Bengals), Simon Fraser (ex-Falcons), Ellis Wyms (ex-Vikings). Surely it is worth looking at alternatives to the likes of Sands, Joseph and Boscetti?
August 14th, 2009 at 3:12 am
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August 14th, 2009 at 3:24 am
couldnt agree more Scottish,couldnt agree more.The organization thought we needed DE’s,maybe,but you,me and others think we ALSO need DT’s
August 14th, 2009 at 3:26 am
That catch by Nick Miller was the best catch by a Raider in a long time!
August 14th, 2009 at 3:31 am
No way we’re stopping the run this year with the current cast of characters! Let’s hope that our offense can put enough pressure on opponents to spare our defense from constantly being exposed.
August 14th, 2009 at 3:32 am
I watched the 1st quarter and a little of the second,fell asleep
August 14th, 2009 at 3:37 am
maybe with Brown at MLB.This is why wew needed 2 keep Frantz Joseph,he wasnt fast but he is a true MLB.Like Fl.Pete said DRAFT BRINKLEY
August 14th, 2009 at 3:53 am
Good morning Nation !!!
it is a fine Raider day in Raider world…
Nos. 1 & 2 needs to be McD and Bush…
I honestly would try to trade Fargas… keep Rankin…
Routt had a poor game… even on special teams…
QBs should be Russell, Frye, Southpaw… everyone else needs to go…
we really need another DT… two if we dump Turdell…
i can’t be more pleased with the receiving corps… especially Schillens… the obvious No 1 receiver…
winning is addicting…
i agree with Jeff Fisher that winning even in pre-season matters…
August 14th, 2009 at 4:12 am
just cut fargas and keep rankin…we don’t need a near 30 year old rb when we have dmac and bush, and another young rb in rankin
August 14th, 2009 at 4:12 am
Also,it looks like we got some good 2nd and 3rd stringers.We still need DT’s and a stinking MLB 2 make us tuff up the gut
August 14th, 2009 at 4:27 am
hope that nick miller makes the team. guy’s a speed demon. had an excellent grab too. hope that the wr’s on the roster when regular season starts is….
1. schilens
2. walker…if he’s healthy
3. dhb
4. higgins
5. murphy
6. n. miller
Would be nice to have Nick Miller and Higgins as the returners, so we could cut justin miller and get a corner that can actually play def. in his roster spot….wishful thinking
August 14th, 2009 at 4:28 am
i stayed up to watch it on nfl network at 1am….works gonna suck today
August 14th, 2009 at 5:19 am
Good mornin’ Nation!
I can only stay in for a few minutes this morning. Nice!
When we moved the ball down the field for the first long drive, then came away with only a field goal, it was reminiscent of last year’s games against Buffalo, San Diego, etc. (red zone issues again!) But things really picked up; I think the O-line did a good job throughout the game; I am worried about the D-line getting pushed around a little bit, early, but the rest of the game looked pretty good. Props to Michael Huff, Nick Miller and Gradkowski — also, the Raiders should seriously consider locking-up Slade Norris to a long-term deal. With Russell’s running, I’m almost ready to cut bait with Fargas … oh, and are there still any Jeff Garcia lovers out there? (probably not many). Drink the kool-aid, me hearties!
August 14th, 2009 at 5:19 am
http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-and-stories/2009-08-12/the-gops-misplaced-rage/full/
for Dakota… and his misguided minions…
August 14th, 2009 at 5:23 am
# Florida Pete Says:
August 14th, 2009 at 5:19 am
http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-and-stories/2009-08-12/the-gops-misplaced-rage/full/
for Dakota… and his misguided minions…
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Anyway, “health” and “care” are two words that should not be used together by our government — it’s a major oxymoron! What I would suggest for Dakota and the minions is simply to take a nice long sip of Raider wine this morning … how ’bout them Cowboys?!
August 14th, 2009 at 5:26 am
thats a read 4 MistaBrown,Pete
August 14th, 2009 at 5:54 am
Good Morning Nation!!!
Happy Friday to you all…I heard the score last night, but had to tivo the game due to it being on late last night (blackout, I guess and I couldn’t find channel 58)…but oh well…hopefully they keep it going!
August 14th, 2009 at 5:59 am
Routt sucked pretty bad last night…
he even sucked on special teams…
August 14th, 2009 at 6:03 am
Chaz looks great. Dmac, Bush, Rankin, and Russel all looked good carrying the rock. Routt had a bad game. Chris Johnson is safe. First string defense did not wow me. Three man rush was poor. Huff got a pick, hope he gets a fair shake. Like Miller. Fargas did not look good, maybe because he was against the ones for the Girls. Maybe to early but I hope we keep Rankin over Fargas.
August 14th, 2009 at 6:05 am
YHEEEEEE!!!!!!
GOOD MORNING NATION!!!!!
Looks like Jruss and the rest are helping AZ and myself slang tha KOOL-AID!!!!
This is a very positive start I know its only pre-season we always win pre season….But our Offense looked sharp JRUSS TO CHAZ ALL YEAR!!!!!! And I also know it means nothing but my boy BOYD from Oregon led the team in tackles with 7!!!!Here are some of my favorite Quotes of the day!!!!
“JaMarcus Russell also played two series, driving his team to a field goal on the opening drive as Oakland relied heavily on the pass early. Russell looked poised in the pocket, completing six of nine passes for 50 yards” “and even scrambling for 18 yards on one play.”
“Russell had a particularly good rapport with second-year receiver Chaz Schilens, who caught four passes from Russell and also drew a 47-yard pass interference penalty that set up Sebastian Janikowski’s 23-yard field goal. Schilens finished with five catches for 52 yards”
“I thought he was very aggressive with the ball, made good decisions,” coach Tom Cable said. “That’s what I’m talking about with him. When he plays the game at a fast enough speed, it allows him to be on time and he showed that tonight.”
Come Rise With Us!!!!!!!
Gabby round for the house!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
August 14th, 2009 at 6:06 am
Also would explore a trage for Garcia if another teams starter goes down. Could get over on somebody. Also Carlie had a bad game.
August 14th, 2009 at 6:08 am
Thanks for letting me in the FF league, always readind not much posting. work calls
August 14th, 2009 at 6:09 am
15.8
5.2
18.0
Yrds per carry for the top three backs!!!! I like this!!!!!!
Congrats to Huff! hope he really steps it up this year!!! Shame on you Routt!!!!!
O,
Your boy Chaz is on a tear!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Come Rise With Us!!!!
August 14th, 2009 at 6:11 am
hellsbells Says:
August 14th, 2009 at 6:08 am
Thanks for letting me in the FF league, always readind not much posting. work calls
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Understood!! Glad you could make it brother It should be a riot!!! MAn was it nice to see that last night or what I know its all but meaningless untill Sept. But still it could have been the other way around wiht alot more Questions about us!!! I love it!!!!
Come Rise With Us!!!!
August 14th, 2009 at 6:13 am
GOOD MORNING SPORT’S FANS, 4EVA ,HWNDR, TBONE, FLORIDA PETE, 1 ST PRE-SEASON GAME, STILL THINGS 2 B WOEK’D ON OFCOURSE,SEE HOW MUCH IMPROVEMENT THE TEAM MAKES AGAINST THE 49ERS A WEEK FROM SATURDAY, THE SAME SCORE WOULD BE NICE…
August 14th, 2009 at 6:20 am
Man trying 2 get into a mock draft is like,well,I dont want 2 say =)
August 14th, 2009 at 6:21 am
Florida Pete Says:
http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-and-stories/2009-08-12/the-gops-misplaced-rage/full/
for Dakota… and his misguided minions…
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Good article, Pete, but you know what he’d say: “Not from some leftwing crazy blog!!!” tried to find BSJ’s article on teen’s ab0rti0ns but instead found how 0brtions have gone done since 0bama’s been in office. Not my point to make anyway.
August 14th, 2009 at 6:23 am
Good Morning 2All =)
August 14th, 2009 at 6:29 am
4evaRaider Says:
August 14th, 2009 at 6:20 am
Man trying 2 get into a mock draft is like,well,I dont want 2 say =)
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Good morning Brother!!!!!
GO RAIDERS!!!!!!!!!!!1
LOL yea mocks go quick I sugest you scroll down and wait on the screen and try to join a far left box at the bottom all the top ones fill up first!!!
August 14th, 2009 at 6:31 am
Please all you fargas nuts realize keep Rankin. Hell Bush should be the starter with dmac as change of pace. Bush does everything better than fargas and yes block too.
August 14th, 2009 at 6:31 am
YOU PEOPLE: Wake up and smellllllll the glory! Can’t stay long today, but wanted to at least say SCHILENS IS DA MAN! (stay healthy!).
I’m escaping the cube early today to meet an old buddy for a weekend of golf on the Mississippi. And he’s a Cowgirl fan!
August 14th, 2009 at 6:32 am
ANY KOOL-AID LEFTOVER, OAKLIFER ? I COULD USE A LARGE GLASS W/ICE..
August 14th, 2009 at 6:34 am
the 1 big thing I noticed was the way our O-line was real tight with the formations.Last year we were spread out which made it easier 4 the D to get 2 Jmac.A nice tight alignment will do just fine,imo
August 14th, 2009 at 6:36 am
Mornin oaklifer
August 14th, 2009 at 6:37 am
thankx OAKLIFER!!!
NoMoreFargas…Dmac should start,imo throw his azz in there he looks fine
Cant wait 2C OO,Bush and Dmac on the field together
August 14th, 2009 at 6:38 am
Any body watch tom Brady?
August 14th, 2009 at 6:38 am
Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
August 14th, 2009 at 6:31 am
YOU PEOPLE: Wake up and smellllllll the glory! Can’t stay long today, but wanted to at least say SCHILENS IS DA MAN! (stay healthy!).
I’m escaping the cube early today to meet an old buddy for a weekend of golf on the Mississippi. And he’s a Cowgirl fan!
B-O-N-U-S!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
August 14th, 2009 at 6:39 am
RaiderTW Says:
August 14th, 2009 at 6:21 am
Florida Pete Says:
http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-and-stories/2009-08-12/the-gops-misplaced-rage/full/
for Dakota… and his misguided minions…
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Good article, Pete, but you know what he’d say: “Not from some leftwing crazy blog!!!” tried to find BSJ’s article on teen’s ab0rti0ns but instead found how 0brtions have gone done since 0bama’s been in office. Not my point to make anyway.
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Yes, very solid article thx Pete.
August 14th, 2009 at 6:40 am
TREY!!!!!! I swear I heard you mention me on Ive last night no?!?!?!
Morning bud!!
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D-LF,
Morning brother!!!!
GOOO RAIDUUUUUUHSSSSSSSSS!!!!!
Man if look like that all season 9-7 is possible hell as bad as the rest of the division is 10-6 mybe eve playoffs!!!!! (SPLASH)!!!!!
Come Rise With Us!!!!!
August 14th, 2009 at 6:40 am
yep that was a real nice hole Henderson and Morris opened up 4 Dmac =)
August 14th, 2009 at 6:40 am
I guess there are good with the bad. I can’t make judgement until I get home today to watch the game. But…on a funny note: I sold my tickets last night to my neighbor who is a Big Cowboy fan…I hope he had fun and the people in my section didn’t give him too much crap…HAHA!!! I guess I’ll hear it from him today…Oh well!
August 14th, 2009 at 6:42 am
BREAKING NEWS: ESPN’s analyst Chris Mortensen is reporting a blockbuster trade that will send Oakland running back Justin Fargas to the San Diego Chargers for an undisclosed 4th round draft pick.
August 14th, 2009 at 6:44 am
OAKlifer Says:
August 14th, 2009 at 6:40 am
TREY!!!!!! I swear I heard you mention me on Ive last night no?!?!?!
Morning bud!!
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No ESPN forbids any shout outs to raider fans.
August 14th, 2009 at 6:45 am
BREAKING NEWS: ESPN’s analyst Chris Mortensen is reporting a blockbuster trade that will send Oakland running back Justin Fargas to the San Diego Chargers for an undisclosed 4th round draft pick.
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BAWK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!LOL
AD and SD I can see it now!!!!! Trey you sure Schefter didnt report that??????
August 14th, 2009 at 6:45 am
yep better him than us Hwnrdr!!!
August 14th, 2009 at 6:46 am
OAKlifer…How come there’s no punters or return men???
August 14th, 2009 at 6:48 am
OAKlifer
Looks like I was too late for your league, it was full when I tried to join this motning, thanks anyway.
I will be creating another FANTASY league soon, need serious players to join, still no date for live draft…
So far, it’s Copenhaguen, Exla and me…could be a 10 or 12 team league depending on how many wanna join, let me know.
August 14th, 2009 at 6:50 am
Ryan
Of course, you’re invited too, I just don’t like the nfl.com format, I prefer yahoo, let me know if you’re interested.
August 14th, 2009 at 6:51 am
4evaRaider Says:
August 14th, 2009 at 6:46 am
OAKlifer…How come there’s no punters or return men???
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You pick a ST/DEF….
So you try to pick a good D with good return men!!!
You get points for like net return yrds and stuff…
EX: If you had Buffalo ST/DEF and Rasco Parrish Rips off a 75 Runt Return TS you would get one point for every 25 yrds…and 6 for the TD so 9 total points off that one play……
August 14th, 2009 at 6:52 am
Bob Marley Says:
August 14th, 2009 at 6:48 am
OAKlifer
Looks like I was too late for your league, it was full when I tried to join this motning, thanks anyway.
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Bob if its Yahoo I would love to get in on it!!!!!!
August 14th, 2009 at 6:52 am
ok =)
August 14th, 2009 at 6:53 am
BAWK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!LOL
AD and SD I can see it now!!!!! Trey you sure Schefter didnt report that??????
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Morty is:
-on top of everything (wink)
-the 1st to report
-broke the Michael vick signing
-is the #2 man on ESPN Behind yours truly
August 14th, 2009 at 6:53 am
BSJ, have you heard about this:
The physicist Stephen Hawking is defending Britain’s National Health Service after an editorial in Investor’s Business Daily said Mr. Hawking “wouldn’t have a chance in the U.K.,” where the health service would have deemed his life “essentially worthless.”
The problem with the editorial, of course, is that Dr. Hawking, the author of “A Brief History of Time,” is very much a Briton — born in Oxford and currently a professor at the University of Cambridge.
August 14th, 2009 at 6:55 am
Oaklifer, why did Justin Fargas start the 1st game of the preaseason?
August 14th, 2009 at 6:58 am
Justin Fargas to SD? Hmmm…
What he had last night? 2 yards? I like his heart, but…
August 14th, 2009 at 6:58 am
Oaklifer, why did Justin Fargas start the 1st game of the preaseason?
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LOL to play 2 series b4 he was yanked he had like 2 carries LOl we are not showcasing him if thats what you implying?!?!??! He will be here or traded out side the division for a DT!!!!! or I like the 4th rounder Idea but million to one he ever goes to the AFC west PATS maybe AFC west NO!!!
August 14th, 2009 at 6:59 am
Oaklifer, Al is 80 years old do you see al Davis passing away any time soon?
August 14th, 2009 at 6:59 am
Yes TW, and Hawking was quoted as saying he would be dead but for the UK health system.
Hilarious.
August 14th, 2009 at 7:01 am
Oaklifer, if fargas were to start the entire season with a healthy mcfadden and bush sitting on the bench, would you be dissapointed?
August 14th, 2009 at 7:02 am
Oaklifer, Al is 80 years old do you see al Davis passing away any time soon?
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Trey first of all make no mistake I am A AL Davis fan as well as the Raiders….My granfather lived to be 96 and I hope every important person that has influenced my life lives that long….Do I want him to get an Asistan GM yes do I want him strung up or dead NO!!!
August 14th, 2009 at 7:02 am
I love that there are ACTUALLY people on here who really believe Al Davis would trade Fargas to the Chargers. LOL! What planet have you been on?
Newsflash!! The guys who play the most in the reg season play the least in preseason. Come ON!!
August 14th, 2009 at 7:04 am
Oaklifer, if fargas were to start the entire season with a healthy mcfadden and bush sitting on the bench, would you be dissapointed?
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Absoultly,
I think that Bush And McFadd Give us the best chance of winning…..DO I think Fargas helps teach these young guys how to blow upo DT and LB’s Like Rathman showed him YES!!! he is a Value and reworked his deal to be here under stannding he is being fased out….Hopefully McFad& Bush give Cable a reason to play them ahead of Fargas!!!!
August 14th, 2009 at 7:07 am
Lifer,
When did Fargas rework his deal?
August 14th, 2009 at 7:08 am
I agree with that OAK,
Fargas did restructure his contract so that he can remain a Raider. You gotta love that!
August 14th, 2009 at 7:10 am
RaiderRon Says:
August 14th, 2009 at 7:07 am
Lifer,
When did Fargas rework his deal?
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Raiders left guard Robert Gallery and running back Justin Fargas also restructered their contracts recently, but they didn’t take a financial hit like wide receiver Javon Walker.
Both had an undisclosed amount of their contract money converted to a signing bonus and had additional years tacked on to the back of the contract, two league sources told The Chronicle today. They’ll still get the same amount of money at the end of the day, whereas Walker forfeited $22 million in base salary and a $5 million roster bonus with his redone deal, a source said.
The changed deals for Gallery and Fargas allow the Raiders to prorate the money over the life of the extended contracts, which are each voidable back to the original length (Gallery and Fargas are signed through 2010). That’s as opposed to having all of the money count against the cap this year.
http://forums.mercurynews.com/topic/restructuring
August 14th, 2009 at 7:11 am
It was in lue of trying to sign Russell Mcfad and others Alot of top ten picks as of late hope this stops NOW!!!!!!
31-10!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11
YHEEEEEEEE
August 14th, 2009 at 7:11 am
OAKlifer Says:
August 14th, 2009 at 7:02 am
Oaklifer, Al is 80 years old do you see al Davis passing away any time soon?
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Trey first of all make no mistake I am A AL Davis fan as well as the Raiders….My granfather lived to be 96 and I hope every important person that has influenced my life lives that long….Do I want him to get an Asistan GM yes do I want him strung up or dead NO!!!
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well, what if he was hit by morts bus or decides he is tired of living and jumps off the owners box during a game and falls on your lap? Would you be happy?
August 14th, 2009 at 7:12 am
Be back in a few NAtion!!!!
Wing stop foe breakfast here I come!!!!!!
August 14th, 2009 at 7:13 am
<- al Davis
August 14th, 2009 at 7:13 am
Trey,
first of all make no mistake I am A AL Davis fan as well as the Raiders….My granfather lived to be 96 and I hope every important person that has influenced my life lives that long….Do I want him to get an Asistan GM yes do I want him strung up or dead NO!!!
“My granfather lived to be 96 and I hope every important person that has influenced my life lives that long….”
lets not continue down this track….please
August 14th, 2009 at 7:14 am
So, he really didnt rework his deal to stay in Oakland like you imply. Simply moved some money around for the cap this year. Saying he did it because he knows he is gettting “fased” out is rediculous and you have ZERO, NONE, NADA evidence to back up such a claim.
August 14th, 2009 at 7:14 am
The replay was too late for me, I fell asleep by the 2nd quarter…that being said:
- DHB drawing double teams already, that’s gonna help, too bad Terrence Newman didn’t play, would have liked to watch how a top corner played him.
- Schilens, wow, look like the real deal, he might still be sneaking up on people, that won’t last, but he sure can play.
- Classic Gerard Warren, in the red zone, on one play Kyle Kosier pushes him 3 yards backwards, next play he blows past Kosier who holds him and draws the flag.
- Tommy Kelly´s body has changed, he might be too heavy now.
- Looks like the players really like Huff and are rooting for him, everyone was cheering him after the int, Nnamdi more than anyone, hope he finally comes around.
- Morrison has to be the worst blitzer on the team, always seems to get stonewalled by running right into an OL.
-The team looks better, Dallas is a talented team, certainly better than us right now, but we didn’t look overmatched, still a lot of work to be done but it was a fine showing IMO……..specially after readind the camp coverage where it seemed like this team was barely functional, it appears that’s not the case.
August 14th, 2009 at 7:15 am
Umm…what is up with all of these questions about Al?
August 14th, 2009 at 7:16 am
whereas Walker forfeited $22 million in base salary and a $5 million roster bonus with his redone deal, a source said.
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YES, Al will still get something outta this weasel!!
August 14th, 2009 at 7:19 am
OAKlifer
Dude, could you set up a second league for those of us who couldn’t get in the first one?.
Truth is, I don’t have much time and it would be better if you took over and managed both leagues, is that too much to ask?.
Let me know, I have to run soon…
August 14th, 2009 at 7:23 am
This is from Raider Beat:
Justin Fargas carried the ball only once, for 2 yards. McFadden netted 63 yards on four carries. Michael Bush gained 23 yards on three carries.
In other words, Cable is correct in saying he has three starters to choose from on a given play when it comes to running the ball.
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what the hell is wexler talking about???
i count two starters and a guy to fan them with a towel after a long one…
August 14th, 2009 at 7:25 am
Who started the game Florida Pete?
August 14th, 2009 at 7:29 am
Fargas.
August 14th, 2009 at 7:31 am
How many carries?
August 14th, 2009 at 7:31 am
on the goal line play where Cooper had his penalty…
fargas tried to leap over the pile…
i am not kidding you when i say he leaped…
and fell short of the line of scrimmage…
i’m not even sure anyone touched him…
Marcus Allen he is not…
August 14th, 2009 at 7:32 am
Anyone else get a good vibe from Slade Norris? Dude plays very physical and seems to be around the ball all the time. He also is a good passs rusher. Could he be the answer for SLB?
August 14th, 2009 at 7:32 am
Alllllrite. I’ll bring my homemade sausage, I know youll like it oaklifer
August 14th, 2009 at 7:32 am
it dosent really matter who starts an exibition game,imo.I am a BIG Fargas fan,he embodies everything Raider,imo but HE IS BEING PHASED OUT.Like I said 1000 times,I hope he retires a Raider and he can still do some good 4 the team,but make no mistake Justin is being phased out.Maybe not by management but by Dmac and Bush
August 14th, 2009 at 7:34 am
i really hope that’s true 4eva…
because if we forfeit the first quarter in every game just because we don’t want to hurt Fargas’ feelings…
we’ll be looking at another miserable year…
August 14th, 2009 at 7:35 am
OAKlifer
I gotta run, if you wanna take over the second league I have a couple of suggestions:
Keep the yahoo settings but add 1 flex spot on the new league, also, no can’t cut list and no limit in roster moves, and maybe you add an extra bench spot for depth.
And don’t leave me out this time!..I’ll check back for your answer around 10 am eastern tomorrow, if you can post the ID and password then, that would be great.
lol, maybe I’m asking too much, let me know if it bothers you, thanks.
August 14th, 2009 at 7:37 am
welll,I dont wanna hurt his widdle feewings eder =)
August 14th, 2009 at 7:38 am
HEY!
Goodmorning Nation!
Haha, what did AZ tell you guys about my boy Chaz? 1000+ this season Chaz, looking good, keep it up!
Well boys, we looked ok in that game. Alot of good things, and some stuff we can work on, but it seems the momentum from the 2 game win streak has carried over…
9-7!
1000+ FOR MR. SCHILENS!
53 MEN, COUNTLESS FANS COMMITTED TO ONE PURPOSE!
DRINK UP NATION!
Run D was spotty but still improved!
August 14th, 2009 at 7:40 am
4 eva,
Evidence that Fargas is getting phased out please.
AZ,
Chaz is a good player, best WR on the team, but this O wont produce a 1000 yard reciever. Just not gonna happen.
August 14th, 2009 at 7:49 am
Source: Raiders interested in Greenwood
The free agent linebacker will be working out for the Raiders later today.
National Football Post
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dam that was quick. Morrison is in trouble on the inside. he ran right into the olinemens arms a couple of times and put himself into perfect position to get neutralized. thats unacceptable. he needs to play with more instinct in there…at least dip your shoulder to the play side and maybe you get pushed into traffic but getting caught head on by a fatt slow slob will put you on the bench captain Kirk…you need to STEP IT UP DOGG!!!
August 14th, 2009 at 7:50 am
Ehhhh, saying it’s “not gonna happen” isn’t smart Ron. Chaz looks like the go-to guy when we need a play and he and Russell look to be developing that chemistry required to put those kinds of numbers up. If Chaz is healthy all season, I think he hit a grand easy.
Not like I’m ever right about anything in here LOL.
9-7!
1000 FOR CHAZ!
DRINK UP!
August 14th, 2009 at 7:54 am
RaiderRon Says:
August 14th, 2009 at 7:14 am
So, he really didnt rework his deal to stay in Oakland like you imply. Simply moved some money around for the cap this year. Saying he did it because he knows he is gettting “fased” out is rediculous and you have ZERO, NONE, NADA evidence to back up such a claim.
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LOL, ok wtf are you talking about he could have said NO!!1 LOL he wants to be here and if yuo think he thinks he is not all but done withMike bush and Dmac ur delusional!!1
LOL ok….
August 14th, 2009 at 7:54 am
no matter how many times I watch that catch by Nick Miller I still scream HEEEELLLLL YEEEEAAAAHHHH!!!!!
August 14th, 2009 at 7:55 am
Nah, the O is too run heavy and just not a good passing O yet. Russell is still learning and the o-line cant pass block. Not to mention the stupid plays where they force the ball deep to DHB no matter how covered he may be. Happened twice last night and guarantee it happens all year.
August 14th, 2009 at 7:56 am
RaiderRon Says:
August 14th, 2009 at 7:40 am
4 eva,
Evidence that Fargas is getting phased out please.
Its the nature of da beast…Dmac is ready,imo
August 14th, 2009 at 7:57 am
Thank you everyone for the Kool-Aid this morning…
Anyways…have fun this weekend! Like Cable always preaches: We’re 1-0!!!
August 14th, 2009 at 7:58 am
Florida Pete Says:
August 14th, 2009 at 7:34 am
i really hope that’s true 4eva…
because if we forfeit the first quarter in every game just because we don’t want to hurt Fargas’ feelings…
we’ll be looking at another miserable year…
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Very true
August 14th, 2009 at 7:58 am
LOL @ Lifer, you know not what you speak. He is still getting the same money, all he did was delay it. Its not like the team could have cut him if he said no. Wheres the evidence he is “all but done”?? Get a clue and quit making shitt up.
August 14th, 2009 at 7:59 am
McFadden did miss that block on the Russell sack though….
August 14th, 2009 at 8:00 am
Bob Marley Says:
August 14th, 2009 at 7:19 am
OAKlifer
Dude, could you set up a second league for those of us who couldn’t get in the first one?.
Truth is, I don’t have much time and it would be better if you took over and managed both leagues, is that too much to ask?.
Let me know, I have to run soon…
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Jsut go tback but Il” fix us up bro!!!
August 14th, 2009 at 8:00 am
4 eva,
So you have none? Cause if there is any evidence that this year will be any different from the last I havent seen it. Fargas is still the starter, but McFadden should and will get the most touches.
August 14th, 2009 at 8:01 am
I didnt think pass protection looked bad at all. Mario looks like the real deal. Wouldn’t be suprised if we have a great one on the left side there.
Exciting! All the kool-aid drinking is paying off! It’s all about the vibe Nation! Stay positive baby!
9-7!
10-6????
YUM YUM!
August 14th, 2009 at 8:02 am
Rankin looks like our 3rd best back (other than pass blocking).
That kid went to my highschool, so I’m pulling for him to make the 53 man!
August 14th, 2009 at 8:02 am
Dakota with time and OO or Neal staying home that wont happen 2 often,I hope =)
August 14th, 2009 at 8:04 am
Go AZTECS!!!!
CHAZ is a Beast!!!!!
Good morning Nation.
Miller, Chaz, DHB, JLH, and Murphy will make great Targets for JR this year. I can’t wait for reg season.
August 14th, 2009 at 8:06 am
Ron the nature of da beast is my evidence and thats all the evidence I need.Or you can call it the writing on the wall,but I think its there 4 everyone 2c.What about you???
August 14th, 2009 at 8:06 am
RaiderRon Says:
August 14th, 2009 at 7:58 am
LOL @ Lifer, you know not what you speak. He is still getting the same money, all he did was delay it. Its not like the team could have cut him if he said no. Wheres the evidence he is “all but done”?? Get a clue and quit making shitt up.
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With the Fourth overall pick in the 2008 draft the Raider select Darren McFadden RB Arkansaw!!!!
LOL PROOF is done bro!!!!!
How many RB’s besides REggie s”say it anit so” Bush get drafted in the top ten to be back ups????
LOL debate over you lose we took a kid mad a vet rework to get all the $$$ we needed for our FUTURE you DRAFT for the FUTURE if you can tsee that im sorry Fargas is not in our LONG TERM PLANS!!!! Its lioke talking to a deaf monkey……or a wall….or DUDE…or Bobby!!!
LOL @ you my friend!!!
August 14th, 2009 at 8:07 am
Rankin is better than Fargas? LMFAO!
August 14th, 2009 at 8:07 am
Haha, we’ve been saying it and we believed it O, thats how things get done. KNOW it will happen! Love it!
1000 FOR CHAZ!
August 14th, 2009 at 8:07 am
what i really liked about last night is that everyone seemed to know where they needed to be and when…
well…
except Routt…
and… well Fargas…
when he landed on his face one yard short of the line of scrimmage when he tried to make like Marcus Allen…
clearly it’s the white half of him doing the jumping…
he needs to be told to never do that again…
in that instance he really does need to be a linebacker seeking missle…
August 14th, 2009 at 8:07 am
RaiderRon = Fargas’ agent? Lil Huggy plugger?
August 14th, 2009 at 8:08 am
I liked everything we did, but:
- the Oline needs help, and Mario did OK but not great.
- we still can’t stop the run, and I still think we need a DT.
August 14th, 2009 at 8:09 am
I didn’t like the way the Cowgirls moved right through our D on I think their second drive…but the D played well on the first drive…and our scrubs killed their scrubs!
Big cheer for
Chaz
Rankin
Bush
McFadden
Nick Miller
Russell (but god he looks like the stay-puft marshmallow man! His career will not last another 5 seasons unless he gets his eating under control)
Henderson
Satele
Hard to tell on defense, but…
I think it was Alston who blew that tackle and the Cowgirl got a big run…
Routte…man you are bad
The D as a whole for allowing Romo 10 seconds to throw that TD to the TE…
August 14th, 2009 at 8:09 am
What kind of pajamas does Superman wear?
Slade “Chuck” Norris pajamas!
Best rookie tackler I’ve seen us draft in years.
Glad Ryans not here to coach it out of him.
good lock up and pulldown…boys a keeper!!
I was really impressed with Boyd as well, If Mitchell got half of what Boyd brings, I would say Uncle Al has done a good job getting the players.
August 14th, 2009 at 8:10 am
I saw OO lay some wood last night on a blitzing linebacker and it was impressive.
I thought the O-Line played well considering Gallery was injured and Pears look pretty good over there on the right side at times.
They way Dallas drove the ball on our defense in the first quarter make me want to puke however.
Its painfully obvious that we need another DT and MLB on the roster.
August 14th, 2009 at 8:10 am
Rankin has more potential than Fargas IMO. Rankin is raw, but a good type of back to develope. Reminds me of Felix Jones a little bit. Shifty RB with good cuts. He’s young. He’s hungry. Yeah, with Bush and McFadden on the roster, I let Fargas go and develope Rankin behind Bush and McFadden. You just have to find a way to keep a guy like him on the roster. If it’s not Fargas who gets the axe for his spot, it’s gotta be someone. Can’t let some other team pick him up off our practice squad. We were lucky that didnt happen last year.
August 14th, 2009 at 8:11 am
Willie Joe out played Sands……again.
My money is on Willie Joe to make the roster as a rotational DT.
August 14th, 2009 at 8:12 am
Sorry, Routt…either way you spell his name he still stinks.
August 14th, 2009 at 8:12 am
I thought Mario did kinda good against Ware,and going back 2 last season he did real good against top talent.The sky is the limit 4 Mario,imo
August 14th, 2009 at 8:12 am
i think Mitchell can be PUP’ed to start this season…
let him heal…
give Boyd the job… if he does well… we got trade bait…
if not… Mitchell’s back in game, what, week 9 or something…
August 14th, 2009 at 8:12 am
AZ,
I’ve been talking about this kid since last year when we drafted him, and most people told me he was a 7RD Pick and if he was as good as I say he was, then he would have been drafted in the 1st 3 RDs.
I was right, and they were wrong!!!!!
My boy is a Beast!!!!!!!
Go AZTECS!!!!!
August 14th, 2009 at 8:13 am
…With Fargas, what we have already seen is what we are going to get, and no one can say that isn’t true. We ALL know Fargas very well.
Rankin on the other hand is young and learning and has an impressive skill set. Out with the old and predictable, in with the new and explosive!
9-7!
August 14th, 2009 at 8:14 am
Have either DMC or Bush proven they could be good backs for a full year?
Bush had trouble getting on the field last year for christ sakes. Ignorance is bliss I guess.
August 14th, 2009 at 8:14 am
HEy Guys we all no that my peenis is very very small and weak in comparison to a nat. Thats Why I ride Fargas So hard its not his Fault he cant score and played for Art Sheell.. Kiffen ( who I loved) now thats a different story that guy was AWESOME!!!
August 14th, 2009 at 8:14 am
If DMAC did not start at the begining of the year instead of Fargas it would be a true injustice man!
DMAC and Bush have to get more touches.
If Bush does not get his touches mark my word next year he is out of here man. He will go to another AFC West team and he will slice our D up man. Wait and see! You have to get this guy some PT.
Later Fargas, we all have to ride out in the sunset one day. He should be coming of the bench like Deuce did for New Orleans.
August 14th, 2009 at 8:15 am
I agree Dakota and here are some of my observations.
People who lit it up
Chaz
McFadden
Miller
Slade
Satele
Stinkers
Turd Sands
Routt
People who need to play better
Kelly
Morrison
I know I left someone out but in general those are my thoughts. Its going to be a long season if we don’t address the run D somehow.
August 14th, 2009 at 8:15 am
Dakota,
Yeah that BS Jerry was talking about Routt challenging C.Johnson for his spot was a joke. Routt is decent as a nickle back, but don’t put him outside please LOL.
August 14th, 2009 at 8:16 am
JAM is going to take it to some teams this year man. I can tell he is ready to blow up. I think next year he is going to be a lot lighter as well so he does not “blow up!”
August 14th, 2009 at 8:16 am
and you are right Dakota,Satele looked real good 1st time out.Who was that chump yesterday that said Satele was no good ??? Oh well dosent matter,as usuall chumps dont know what they are talking about anyway =)
August 14th, 2009 at 8:16 am
Though I’m still drinking the koolaid, I was not impressed with our d-line and lb’s giving 9 seconds to ROmo on the TD to Witten. !st line against !st line was a loss. IMHO
August 14th, 2009 at 8:16 am
[...] If there’s one thing we learned from the Raiders’ 31-10 win over the Cowboys in last night’s preseason opener, it’s that Oakland will throw the ball a lot this season, if not always accurately. Also, Chaz Schilens is an even more fun name to say than Johnnie Lee Higgins. Fifteen (15!) different Raiders caught passes, including one by first-round pick Darrius Heyward-Bey. JaMarcus Russell targeted Hey-Bey on a couple of deep balls, but the first was underthrown and the second was overthrown. There wasn’t a third, but it probably would’ve been just right. Perhaps Cam Inman has a point in calling for more McFadden; Run DMC broke off a 45-yard run and finished with 72 yards from scrimmage. Peep Jerry McDonald’s extensive postgame wrap here. [...]
August 14th, 2009 at 8:17 am
Did I imagine it, or did they have a shot of Shaughnessy on the sideline late in the game looking very bald? Was that some rookie hazing or did we draft this guy?
http://www.imdb.com/media/rm1252755968/nm0002253
August 14th, 2009 at 8:17 am
I wanted to see more of S Norris.
August 14th, 2009 at 8:17 am
What do you get with Fargas AZ?
August 14th, 2009 at 8:18 am
1st defensive series was exactly what I was hoping for.
2nd defensive series is unfortunately what I expected….
August 14th, 2009 at 8:18 am
RaiderRon Says:
August 14th, 2009 at 8:14 am
Have either DMC or Bush proven they could be good backs for a full year?
Bush had trouble getting on the field last year for christ sakes. Ignorance is bliss I guess.
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Fargas has had… what 6 seasons… to prove he can be a good back for an entire year…
he had one good year…
and in that year… he played half a season…
that’s why he got the big contract…
but it’s also why we picked up Bush and then McFadden…
running back is a young mans position…
you only get to do it past 30 if you’re a future hall of famer…
i do not believe Fargas is heading toward that particular building…
August 14th, 2009 at 8:19 am
BHP was right, Matt S is a Solid DE. He played well, and he is strong. He can be our base end!
August 14th, 2009 at 8:20 am
Florida Pete,
Didnt catch an answer to the question in your ramblings on post 159
August 14th, 2009 at 8:20 am
Let the Kool aid be drank!
August 14th, 2009 at 8:21 am
149
I agree, I would add Boyd to the “lit it up” list.
Bush and Rankins were in the “bright spot” list.
Russell is still working the “dimmer switch” IMHO
August 14th, 2009 at 8:21 am
I was really impressed with Boyd as well, If Mitchell got half of what Boyd brings, I would say Uncle Al has done a good job getting the players.
give Boyd the job… if he does well…
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Thats my boy BOYD give ‘em hell!!!! Jerry awnsered my live chat Q about Boyd yesterday!!!
August 14th, 2009 at 8:23 am
Great haircut.
Sporting the “Lou Grant”
August 14th, 2009 at 8:27 am
I thought Boyd, Norris, Shaughnessy, Murph and Miller.
Helped themselves
August 14th, 2009 at 8:29 am
Yeah I will agree the passing game looks a lot better and if our O-Line stays healthy we should have a top 5 running team again.
But that run defense is still very bad! !
August 14th, 2009 at 8:30 am
I would like to see the penalties go down a bit still…
August 14th, 2009 at 8:31 am
BTW,
Mr. Davis is back!! I think after we draft an OT & DT next year, we will have a great team.
9-7!!!!
August 14th, 2009 at 8:32 am
O,
How is he ”back”
August 14th, 2009 at 8:33 am
Later Gents.
August 14th, 2009 at 8:35 am
The refs were all on #27 Horton’s jock. The one play he drew a penalty,the receiver was piggy backed on his shoulder.That should have been an offensive penalty.I hope Horton does not get broken down before he he gets a fair shot as backup for now.
The defensive line has MAJOR issues.The linebacker need to play with more tenacity and smarter.
The receiving core look great!!!!
The Raiders are moving in the right direction.I hope the MAJOR,obvious issues are addressed to redux,only then will the Raiders have realistic chance to win back the division.
Raiders Be With You
August 14th, 2009 at 8:36 am
Tackling and blocking looked much better than in past years, routes were crisp.
The whole roster looked tighter and better coached.
Someone in here said last year “coaching makes the difference” watch.
I agree completely, it is clear after one game that the fundementals were just not being taught under Kiffin and Ryan.
August 14th, 2009 at 8:36 am
hey are they re-telecasting the game now on some network???
August 14th, 2009 at 8:37 am
Don’t hold you breath Raider O…we should have drafted a tackle and DT this year and we didn’t, so it will not surprise me if we skip them in the draft next year too…Al must think we are solid with Green, Pears, Barnes, Sands and Warren, lol.
Man, how great would it be right now if Monroe was playing RT and Brace was lining up next to Kelly? With Murphy, Chaz, and JLH I think we would have been fine at WR…maybe next year!
August 14th, 2009 at 8:40 am
I didn’t get to watch the game last night b/c I’m on the east coast. But from what I’ve read, things went pretty decent for the Raiders. I’m glad Chaz & DMAC looked good. I’m still 50/50 about Russel as the franchise QB. A QB just throwing “bombs’ up for grabs isn’t a good sign..but his numbers were ok..
But of course..the first defense getting absolutely NO pass rush on that TD pass at the goal line. God! I think our Offense will be improved this year..but I think out Defensive-Line is going to get pushed around. I’m hoping 7-9.
I did watch the Patriots. Brady looks like his old self. Good.
The rookies: Pat Chung was all over the field. Blocked a FG and broke up a few passes. Pryor (DT Kentucky 7th Rd pick) started for the Pats, had a sack, and was blowing up the middle of the defense. He could be a stud. Darius Butler looked good too. Julian Edelman (7th Rd QB Kent St) was the star of the game at WR. He had 5 catches for 37yds and a 75 yd punt return. I thought it was Wes Welker out there. Looks like the Pats had a very very good draft.
I’m hoping the NFL replays these games during the week so I can watch Oakland. Hope our defense improves
August 14th, 2009 at 8:40 am
yeah. if we had bj raji? man!!! . but looks like chaz has sumtin.. stay healthy raiders
August 14th, 2009 at 8:42 am
My peenis is VERY VERy small not very thick either!!!! just like my pea brain!!!!
August 14th, 2009 at 8:42 am
Larz,
No idea how you got all that from one preseason game. You must be at practices.
August 14th, 2009 at 8:43 am
but ya know what i saw? GUYS WERE LIKE – MOTIVATED . MADE MY DIKK HARD . I MEAN . DATS WHY I LKE M.BUSH & CHAZ SCHILLENS . THEY LOVE FOOTBALL & IT SPREADS. EVEN M.HUFF HAD 2 MAKE ALL US SMILE WIT DAT PLAY . SADLY . IF OUR LAZY DEFENSIVE ENDS DNT GET A RUSH . WERE GONNA HAVE ISSUES
August 14th, 2009 at 8:43 am
Good morning all my fellow raider brothers, lots of good things happening last night im excited and at the same time worried because of the run issue that’s not surprise to any of us. Watching the run d last night just made me think “old habits die hard” guys still not filling gaps and over running, plays. I hope we can hold up some way this season…… maybe trade farg-ass bump up Rankin and sign a proven veteran DT …..then too I don’t remember seeing Tommy Keyy playing. Did anyone see him out there?
August 14th, 2009 at 8:44 am
Dakota, I agree. Our D-line is so weak it is pathetic. I’m guessing some veteran D-lineman will get cut. Hopefully Al realizes that this team is only a couple pieces away from winning the division, and decides to invest in defensive tackle
August 14th, 2009 at 8:44 am
I THINK IT WAS DACOACHING.. CABLE GETS GUYS CRUNK.. IT SHOWS :v
August 14th, 2009 at 8:45 am
I saw his sorry arse falling back in coverage on 3rd down.
August 14th, 2009 at 8:46 am
maybe da raiders should sign matt jones ?
August 14th, 2009 at 8:46 am
Comparing Crabtree with Darrius Heyward-Bey misses the point. You don’t need Crabtree when you’ve got Schilens. And Schilens is getting seventh-round money while Crabtree waits to be paid better than Heyward-Bey and could be a non-factor all year.
If you’re a Raiders fan, with the 49ers coming up next, it doesn’t get any better than that
——–Jerry McD
August 14th, 2009 at 8:48 am
Dakota you knew that when we completely ignored the problems we have on defense (stopping the run) in the draft it was going to be this kind of year.
We have all complained about it in here since April.
August 14th, 2009 at 8:48 am
RaiderRon Says:
August 14th, 2009 at 8:20 am
Florida Pete,
Didnt catch an answer to the question in your ramblings on post 159
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oh, you asked whether Bush or DMC did it for a whole year…
no… and they never will if you don’t let them…
we’ve seen what Fargas can do… and it’s simply not good enough…
3rd string for Fargas…
August 14th, 2009 at 8:53 am
I like Fargas, but he is in the way. Cable is obviously enamored with the guy for whatever asinine reason is rolling through his thick skull, so we need to trade his ass quick.
Al, call NE up, they always take our players…get a 5th round pick for Fargas. Trade him to the CFL for some Canadian bacon for cripe’s sake! Maybe he can score 2 TDs in Canada! Just get rid of him!
Dumping Fargas will stop Cable from shooting himself in the foot in the first quarter of every game, give Bush more carries so he doesn’t leave the team as soon as he can, and it will allow us to keep Rankin on the 53 man roster.
Do it now Al!!!!!
I know the guy is from USC, but come on!
August 14th, 2009 at 8:53 am
oh !!!
forgot to say it earlier…
please… please… please…
no more three man rushes…
we do not have the talent to do that !!!
August 14th, 2009 at 8:54 am
So 4.5 yds per carry and a 1000 yards in 11 starts isnt good enough? Almost a grand last year in limited time on an offense that has no pass game isnt good enough? DMC and Bush havent proven a thing and untill they step up, beat Fargas out and produce for a season, Fargas stays. Simple as that.
August 14th, 2009 at 8:56 am
Shake my head at all the farkn Louis Rankin love………… And Fargas gets all the hate. Unreal
August 14th, 2009 at 8:57 am
untill they step up, beat Fargas out and produce for a season, Fargas stays. Simple as that.
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lol, Fargas on the bench by week 4.
August 14th, 2009 at 8:58 am
NATION, What is UP????????????
Glad to see some of you finnally getting the Chaz Schillens thing.When Schillens was drafted i took a lot of heat saying that he would be good. Chaz played on a sorry SDSU team, throw him in the pac 10 or sec he is 1-2rd easy. Dont go by the round he was drafted test go by the eye test.
Raider O knows what I am talking about we have a star in Chaz and he is only going to get better…..
So now we mustr make easy choices, cut walker, garcia, and fargas…..
August 14th, 2009 at 8:59 am
but it surely didn’t escape the notice of Raiders fans that Justin Fargas was stacked up at the goal line anyway.
Michael Bush, meanwhile, averaged 7.7 yards on his three carries, looking much like the back who trampled Tampa Bay for 177 yards in last year’s season finale.
Tom Cable seems intent on using all three backs, and Fargas is great to have around if you need him because of injury, but McFadden and Bush need more work and it has to come at the expense of Fargas.
———-Jerry McD
August 14th, 2009 at 8:59 am
our DT’s were getting blown off the line of scrimmage, especially Warren.
August 14th, 2009 at 9:00 am
Chaz Schillens > crab
August 14th, 2009 at 9:01 am
TW,
If Fargas isn’t benched by week 4 what will our record be going into week 4? 1-2? 0-3? Can’t afford to wait that long because the first 4 weeks are winnable games. Got to get him out before the first game of the regular season if we stand any chance at competing in 09.
August 14th, 2009 at 9:01 am
Justin Fargas 2008 season
14 games
218 rushes
853 yards
60.9 yards pre game average
3.9 yards per attempt average
1 count’em… ONE touchdown…
now… ronny… i know you think he is just completely awesome…
i want you to raise your standards…
don’t ask me to lower mine…
August 14th, 2009 at 9:04 am
The most obvious thing on defense IMO was the right side of the Dline. Trevor Scott was literally getting thrown around on ALL the running plays. Witten pancaked him twice. He’s too small, so I see Shuagnessy winning that battle. He wasn’t even effective on passing downs. Very disappointing!
Kirk is Kirk. He just doesn’t have the consistent instincts, or discipline to be our guy in the middle. If you can just take a look at the play where Felix Jones broke a nice one on that 2nd series, it’s classic Morrison. The pla’y went to the right side of the defense. #70, Dallas right guard opposite the play was able to get a block on Morrison that sprung the play. The problem is Kirk never moved out of his original position 5 yds off the ball. No way that big boy should’ve beewn able to get to kirk, and he should’ve been flowing to the ball and been in the hole. I look for Rick Brown to win that battle.
August 14th, 2009 at 9:04 am
Raider fan has become the ultimate hypocrite. Hate a guy who busts his ass every practice or game. produces when healthy, has been a bright spot on a dismal offense and is a tried and true leader and Raider BUT turn around and heap praise on a guy who refused to take one for the team, couldnt even get on the field much of the year and hasnt proven squat.
August 14th, 2009 at 9:05 am
Rankin > Fargas…… Better vision, better runner, potential for higher YPC…. A hoe run threat. watched him in college……
August 14th, 2009 at 9:06 am
They are replaying the game right now on NFLN
August 14th, 2009 at 9:06 am
Man, it is great to see Tyvon Branch back there at safety.Huff looked pretty good too.Stanford Routt is a fade to black.He shows no confidence,diminution in skills is in question. It is disheartening, I have alway’s been pulling for him.
August 14th, 2009 at 9:06 am
my peenis is small!!!! LOOK AT ME!!!!1
August 14th, 2009 at 9:07 am
Mark Wilson needs to be our RG, NOW!! C C is a flag waiting to be thrown! CC is a back-up. Green needs to be upgraded. Can Martin be the guy?
Is Isaiah Ekejiuba ok?
O yeah, Mornin Pete, 666, TW, eva, O, NATION
August 14th, 2009 at 9:07 am
Greg Ellis just deflected the pass in the end zone
August 14th, 2009 at 9:07 am
I dont hate fargas personally but this is a business…
You have a vet on your sales team just making, but you have 3 rising stars that can double your vets output.
Its not personal its business…..
August 14th, 2009 at 9:08 am
“A hoe run threat” call the authorities!!!!
August 14th, 2009 at 9:08 am
JaMarcus played a SOLID game. When he misses passes in practice these bay area writers light him up like he lost the super bowl. Its only fair that you give him his props when he plays well.
I HAVENT SEEN 1 ARTICLE GIVING HIM ANY CREDIT!!!!!
He did a solid job last night and I saw marked improvement.
August 14th, 2009 at 9:09 am
Random Drug Tester Says:
August 14th, 2009 at 8:59 am
our DT’s were getting blown off the line of scrimmage, especially Warren.
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YEP!
What are we gonna do about it?
August 14th, 2009 at 9:10 am
Dakota Says:
August 14th, 2009 at 9:08 am
“A hoe run threat” call the authorities!!!!
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F u Dakota, you f@CKing prankster…..
It was funny though……..
“HOME RUN THREAT”
August 14th, 2009 at 9:10 am
Csn we bring in john runyan for an eye test????
August 14th, 2009 at 9:10 am
repost for ronny…
Florida Pete Says:
August 14th, 2009 at 7:34 am
i really hope that’s true 4eva…
because if we forfeit the first quarter in every game just because we don’t want to hurt Fargas’ feelings…
we’ll be looking at another miserable year…
August 14th, 2009 at 9:11 am
Did anyone notice that it seemed our linbakers were playing much closer to the line? Was Norris playing WLB or SLB. Guy looked pretty good. It was Ricky Brown that missed the tackle, Alston did not suit up.
August 14th, 2009 at 9:11 am
Dirty, What up bretheren??????
August 14th, 2009 at 9:12 am
Fargas did nothing to merit playing time. Wasn’t solid in pass protection, or releases into the pattern. And he didn’t run the ball effectively, or should I say better than the other guys. But I think he only had 1 carry … I could be wrong.
I think IF Fargas starts, it’s going to be more window dressing than anything else. No need to waste McFadden as a pass blocker. Like last night, 2 TE set to open the game that calls for the HB to pass block. Still would make more sense for Bush to be in there though. But as far as ball in hand plays, I can’t see Fargas getting many if any touches.
August 14th, 2009 at 9:13 am
I was at the game of course,..Russell looks awful, clumsy,..uninterested,..was easily outplayed by frye and Grad,..most players looked good,..Nick Miller looked awesome.
August 14th, 2009 at 9:13 am
Thec07 Says:
August 14th, 2009 at 9:10 am
Csn we bring in john runyan for an eye test????
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No, because Priesttj thinks Green is much better than Runyan!
August 14th, 2009 at 9:15 am
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And any one else who cares!!!!!
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August 14th, 2009 at 9:15 am
you guys remember that arizona pre-season game last year, when the offense came out passing and tried to stick with it for the whole game? it was painful to watch. Well they essentially did the same thing last night with the first and second stringers, with much better results. I am pretty optimistic about our offense (considering our previous three first round picks have been offense it should be improving by now)
Defense looks the same; same players and same scheme. What I saw from the first string is what we have all witnessed from them for the entire Ryan-era. INCONSISTENCY. One drive they stop them for a loss, the next drive the other team hardly notices them as they charge down the field. The SD and Buffalo games from last year come to mind, they were unpenetrable for three quarters of those games, then looked like a pee-wee defense for the other quarter.
I hope Marshall and Al took note of how both of the first two drives ended. First drive, Marshall sent two extra blitzers and Romo was flummoxed into a bad throw and forced the punt. Second drive, Marshall only sent three total pass-rushers, while the other 8 players watched Romo take his time and find a receiver for 6.
It’s pre-season, which is a time to learn, not only for players but coaches to. I hope Coach Davis and Coach Marshall learned something last night.
August 14th, 2009 at 9:16 am
Im hear to tell you one thing,…or thang,..Russell should not be allowed to be given starting job,…I would start Frye all year,…give him first team reps the rest of camp,..Russell will be the Raider in 2009 that keeps us from winning. He sucks.
August 14th, 2009 at 9:16 am
CTConstruction Says:
August 14th, 2009 at 9:08 am
JaMarcus played a SOLID game. When he misses passes in practice these bay area writers light him up like he lost the super bowl. Its only fair that you give him his props when he plays well.
I HAVENT SEEN 1 ARTICLE GIVING HIM ANY CREDIT!!!!!
He did a solid job last night and I saw marked improvement.
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ESPN recap is VERY good read scroll up I posted highlights of it this AM round 6!!!! BSPN FINALY SHOWS SOME LOVE!!!!!!
August 14th, 2009 at 9:17 am
Dakota Says:
August 14th, 2009 at 9:13 am
Thec07 Says:
August 14th, 2009 at 9:10 am
Csn we bring in john runyan for an eye test????
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No, because Priesttj thinks Green is much better than Runyan!
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Where was green last night, how did he look. What does the eyes tell you about green. Runyan is going to wind up probable back in philly…… I repsect BHP, but what does he have to do with who we pick up????
August 14th, 2009 at 9:17 am
Russel looked fine. You know they forced him to throw the deep pass to Bey. I also liked hte way he took off running. That could be a biig threat is you get my drift.
August 14th, 2009 at 9:18 am
Runyan, Runyan, Runyan!!!!!!
August 14th, 2009 at 9:19 am
Patriots fans thought Walter looked slow and jumpy in the pocket last night…lol…I think we know what they are talking about.
August 14th, 2009 at 9:19 am
Hiram Eugene? I’d rather see Boyd!
Huff looked good in coverage. Anyone notice him as a nickle corner, or whatever position you want to call it, on that 2nd series?
I will say that he is still an arm tackler, and we might be in trouble if he is the last man between the Barber and the goaline.
I see Huff and Branch starting.
August 14th, 2009 at 9:20 am
Runyan could seal the deal. He is big and mean, not a softy cone like kwame…..Runyan needs to be here at least for the eye test…..
August 14th, 2009 at 9:20 am
Hellsbells,..did you watch the game?…were you there?…I was,..Russell looked like he was in slow motion compared to other qb`s. He sucks dude.
August 14th, 2009 at 9:21 am
Norco Bob:
I WAS ALSO AT THE GAME WITH YOUR MOM…AND THAT BITCH LOOKED TERRIBLE TOO….
RUSSELL WAS FAR FROM TERRIBLE
August 14th, 2009 at 9:21 am
Bob, Russell looks smaller, has he inded lost weight?
I also saw his sideline prescence, he appears to have a diffrent persona….
August 14th, 2009 at 9:22 am
I watched it on TV. Anyone looks good going up against third string D. Maybe you partied to hard at the tailgate.
August 14th, 2009 at 9:22 am
Thec forget it,..dudes a bum,..slow, other qb`s were quick in rollouts,…if Garcia was healthy I bet he starts all year,..but hes hurt and likely cut.
August 14th, 2009 at 9:24 am
For the life of me I cant undserstand why during tv time outs,..all Raiders offense is in a huddle for a couple tv minutes,..Russell stands alone by himself about 6-7 yards away,..looking around like hes lost,..its odd,..he should be in huddle,..dudes big time stupid and clueless.
August 14th, 2009 at 9:24 am
DirtyRaccoon Says:
August 14th, 2009 at 9:09 am
Random Drug Tester Says:
August 14th, 2009 at 8:59 am
our DT’s were getting blown off the line of scrimmage, especially Warren.
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YEP!
What are we gonna do about it?
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Never happened! The game is on now if you want to rewatch it.
Because of Scott’s in eptness, Warren and Kelly were constantly double teamed.
August 14th, 2009 at 9:25 am
Garcia lost his job last night to Gradkowski.
August 14th, 2009 at 9:26 am
Bob, What about the o-line thoughts???
August 14th, 2009 at 9:26 am
JaMarcus played a SOLID game. When he misses passes in practice these bay area writers light him up like he lost the super bowl. Its only fair that you give him his props when he plays well.
I HAVENT SEEN 1 ARTICLE GIVING HIM ANY CREDIT!!!!!
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,..Russell looks awful, clumsy,..uninterested,..was easily outplayed by frye and Grad
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But JR’s developed a connection with Schilens, and after being challenged by Cable to improve his timing with the wideouts, responded in a game situation.
“We had been going against the same guys, sometimes they plan for us in practice and things don’t go the way we want,” Russell said. “What you saw was us coming out early today. Sometimes the ball was thrown before the guy came out of his break.”
Russell will need to be better than this (6-for-9, 50 yards) but it’s clear the Raiders have surrounded him with enough talent to capitalize on his skills. His teammates are better, the system is better.
A key moment for Russell came when he found two receivers covered, took advantage of a pass block by McFadden and ran 18 yards for a first down.
——JERRY McD
August 14th, 2009 at 9:27 am
Thec, you thought he looked smaller? Hmmm, I thought he looked bigger and maybe softer if you know what I mean.
Less muscle and more flab…when he ran for that first down his pants almost started on fire from his thighs rubbing together…
Believe it or not, his weight is an issue. He won’t last another 4 or 5 years in the NFL at this pace. It is a tragic waste of talent in the making. If he can’t control his weight at 24 or 25, he will be done by 29 or 30…
We need to get him on that nutrisystem stuff…
August 14th, 2009 at 9:27 am
I agree we need to let Scott play on passing downs only at this point of his career. Just not enough bulk to anchor against the run. Matt S. was not great but he palyed pretty solid. Could be base DE. We do not have alot of options.
August 14th, 2009 at 9:28 am
Norco Bob Says:
August 14th, 2009 at 9:24 am
For the life of me I cant undserstand why during tv time outs,..all Raiders offense is in a huddle for a couple tv minutes,..Russell stands alone by himself about 6-7 yards away,..looking around like hes lost,..its odd,..he should be in huddle,..dudes big time stupid and clueless.
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Maybe hes making sure he has the right play in his mind….
August 14th, 2009 at 9:28 am
Garcia isn’t going to be cut. If any1 in the coaching staff has any kind of doubt about Russel then Garcia is going to stay on the team barring he is hurt for the year already.
The guy has proven he can step in and win with plenty of teams already, they aren’t gonna cut him for Gradkowski regardless of how Gradkowski plays.
August 14th, 2009 at 9:30 am
Like Frye better than Grad. Bigger arm and mobile.
August 14th, 2009 at 9:31 am
Love a slow Friday at work
August 14th, 2009 at 9:32 am
walker, garcia, fargas… Trade them to the pats for
2020 3rd, 4th,and 5th…..
August 14th, 2009 at 9:34 am
Chaz Schilens looks like a #1 receiver. Making the tough catches and has the speed to get down field. Russell underthrew him on the pass interference.
As long as Bush and DMAC are playing…this offense will do fine.
The defense looks exactly the same to me. I was not impressed
August 14th, 2009 at 9:35 am
I would rather have russell in the huddle during tv time outs pumpin up the O about driving the f*ckin ball down the field,…but no, hes starin at the seagulls,…lookin around,..never once glances at raider sidelines,..rest of team in a huddle,..dude acts like he doesnt even like football, would rather be doing something else,..shows on field,…if not for the money invested, he would have been cut a long time ago.
August 14th, 2009 at 9:36 am
Nick Miller, Louis Rankin…..
All the WR’s looked good yesterday. I guess the economy has folks hungry……
John Runyan……..
August 14th, 2009 at 9:36 am
Next year we better draft D-line, RT, Mlb. Thats it so far. Cody from Bama. Two down player but stout against the run.
August 14th, 2009 at 9:37 am
The biggest galring problem, was ZERO PASS RUSH,..Jessica had all night long to run around, look off 25 receivers,…no pressure on him at all.
August 14th, 2009 at 9:37 am
glaring
August 14th, 2009 at 9:38 am
Bob he is listening to the coaches thru his helemt.
August 14th, 2009 at 9:38 am
Norco Bob Says:
August 14th, 2009 at 9:35 am
I would rather have russell in the huddle during tv time outs pumpin up the O about driving the f*ckin ball down the field,…but no, hes starin at the seagulls,…lookin around,..never once glances at raider sidelines,..rest of team in a huddle,..dude acts like he doesnt even like football, would rather be doing something else,..shows on field,…if not for the money invested, he would have been cut a long time ago.
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I agree with you Bob, trying to give the dude the benefit of the doubt. He does need to become a more vocal leader, it is his team…. Hopefully the coaching staff saw this and let him know about it….
John Runyan…..
August 14th, 2009 at 9:39 am
sorry meant helment.
August 14th, 2009 at 9:39 am
Listening to coaches my ass,..hes just out there lost,..Im telling you, hes not in NFL next year.
August 14th, 2009 at 9:41 am
I really hope the Raiders open the game with Michael Bush. Let him wear down the defense with a nice dose of DMAC.
The offense looks potent when they are out there.
Also, DMAC had a nice pass block on a linebacker that sprang Russell for 18yds….this pass blocking stuff is b.s….DMAC and Bush can pass block.
The Raiders REALLY need to go with two running backs….I am screaming for this too happen. Raiders have to stop playing with a hand tied behind their back.
Also, the O-Line has to stop with the penalties in the red-zone. Get down inside the 5yd line and we are seeing holding and false starts….Raiders should have scored a TD on that drive. That garbage hurt them last year.
August 14th, 2009 at 9:42 am
John Runyan…..
August 14th, 2009 at 9:42 am
whats up HEADBUTT, THEC, TW, NATION!
Man, all this kool-aid played it self out on the field last night! Exciting time to be a Raider fan! Some shakey spots on both sides of the ball but overall a great performance IMO.
Thec:
You can’t cut the “Comeback Player of the Year”, in Javon Walker!?! Our 3 should be: Chaz (like I’ve been saying), Heyward-Bey and Walker if he can return to form. You know Jerry was saying his hands and speed looked “VERY Impressive”. I’m telling you guys, give this guy ONE MORE SHOT and he won’t disapoint.
August 14th, 2009 at 9:42 am
hellsbells Says:
August 14th, 2009 at 9:38 am
Bob he is listening to the coaches thru his helemt.
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That makes sense, they OC will be chatting at him like crazy when he has time to listen, being in the huddle when players are saying “we should this this, This guys doing this when I do that”, is distracting when trying to listen to his OC
August 14th, 2009 at 9:44 am
Never happened! The game is on now if you want to rewatch it
The link Jhill the link pleasse
August 14th, 2009 at 9:45 am
Grade Em:
Offense
O-line c-
WR’s = A
RB’s = A
TE’s = A
QB’s = B+
Defense
D-line = D
LB’s = C
CB’s = C
S = C
ST = B
August 14th, 2009 at 9:47 am
Az,
You know i am so down with the koolaid but i dont think we need walker.
Also I am going to say something really sick….
Put JLH on suicide watch and put nick miller out there…..
August 14th, 2009 at 9:48 am
Headbutt youre as clueless as Russell.
August 14th, 2009 at 9:50 am
Patients on Suicide watch:
Walker
garcia
fargas
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Patients put in a Padded cell
JLH
New full time NATION players
Nick Miller
Louis Rankin
August 14th, 2009 at 9:51 am
where can I rewatch the game???
August 14th, 2009 at 9:52 am
G’mornin’ fellas!
That was a pretty decent game last night. Was impressed with Satele playing pretty much the whole game, as he only seemed to tire very late which is when he should have tired. Great show of endurance for the first preseason game.
Hated seeing Nnamdi leave after the first series. Suspected it might have been an injury, but just thought Cable saw enough after he made that big play with Ricky Brown occupying the blockers to stop that Barber run at the LOS and he wanted to rest his star.
Loved DMAC and my Louisville hometown hero Bush. Bush averaged almost 8 yds a carry out of the three measley attempts they gave to him, and McFadden was everything we drafted him for. Russell and Rankin looked good too, so I’m curious as to why we would still even keep Fargas. I mean, lets get him out of here now while he still has a little bit of trade value. But I’m sure it’s cause Al is so big on loyalty, and Fargas (along with Nnamdi) have pretty much been Mr. Raider since Tim Brown left – committment wise.
Tell you what, with the way Gradkowski and Frye looked, I wouldn’t mind if they traded Garcia either being he’s easily the #1 rated backup in the league (or #2 behind Vick) if we could get a runstopping DT or right tackle.
As for the right side of our defensive line, they got pushed around a lot. And I mean a lot. I watched the game at 7 on KTLA and strictly paid attention to the skill positions, but at 11 on NFL network, I watched the lines very closely and did not like what I saw out of Warren and Scott. Scott especially. Richardson just might get a shot at starting there simply because he’s tougher. Scott probably shines better as a 3rd down type of guy until he bulks up even more later in his career to really take hold of that other end spot.
Side note – Boyd seemed to be everywhere on the field. A lot of the time, he seemed to be out of position, but I liked how much speed he showed. Dude was literally everywhere which can be a good or bad thing, but as long as the ball is close by, he can only improve.
August 14th, 2009 at 9:54 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iJQwFHN94H0
LAST NIGHT HIGHLIGHTS!!!!!!
Man Nick Miller is a PIMP!!!!!!!!!!!!
August 14th, 2009 at 9:55 am
Thec07,
JLH was the most potent offensive talent on the field last year. He helped save Tom Cable’s job with his receiving skills down the stretch. Don’t forget those punt returns and long TD runs….
JLH is the real deal.
August 14th, 2009 at 9:58 am
SNB, What up Bro….. I like JLH i really do. Go look at the archives. When folks in here were bashing him i was down with him…. I am also for competition, and putting the best players on the field. Open competition should bring a more hungry and better prepared unit. JLH should have to compete 100% every year with the likes of a nick miller or whoever comes along. Should be no more automatics…..IMHO
August 14th, 2009 at 9:58 am
jhill Says:
August 14th, 2009 at 9:24 am
DirtyRaccoon Says:
August 14th, 2009 at 9:09 am
Random Drug Tester Says:
August 14th, 2009 at 8:59 am
our DT’s were getting blown off the line of scrimmage, especially Warren.
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YEP!
What are we gonna do about it?
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Never happened! The game is on now if you want to rewatch it.
Because of Scott’s in eptness, Warren and Kelly were constantly double teamed.
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J, so how did the cow’s get 4 big run plays in 3 drives agains our 1’s?
August 14th, 2009 at 10:00 am
If we have a chance to improve do we go with the “incumbent” or improve. You have a chaqnce to get better at a postion you need to take advantage. Field the best 53 players. what was dome last year was last year….
We need te BEST 53 players…
John Runyan….
August 14th, 2009 at 10:00 am
D MAC FADDY, is NOT as fast as people think. I have yet to see the “speed you can feel”!
August 14th, 2009 at 10:01 am
Thec07 Says:
August 14th, 2009 at 9:58 am
SNB, What up Bro….. I like JLH i really do. Go look at the archives. When folks in here were bashing him i was down with him…. I am also for competition, and putting the best players on the field. Open competition should bring a more hungry and better prepared unit. JLH should have to compete 100% every year with the likes of a nick miller or whoever comes along. Should be no more automatics…..IMHO
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I am all for competition too. Too bad there is no competition at the Defensive Tackle positions.
August 14th, 2009 at 10:01 am
Things from the game that will keep me up at night:
Fargas starting
Cooper’s decline continuing
Green at RT
Morrison against the run
Scott against the run (that guy should only play on obvious passing downs)
Lack of depth at CB (Routt is very bad)
Run D, or lack thereof
Penalties at bad times
August 14th, 2009 at 10:04 am
SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
August 14th, 2009 at 10:01 am
Thec07 Says:
August 14th, 2009 at 9:58 am
SNB, What up Bro….. I like JLH i really do. Go look at the archives. When folks in here were bashing him i was down with him…. I am also for competition, and putting the best players on the field. Open competition should bring a more hungry and better prepared unit. JLH should have to compete 100% every year with the likes of a nick miller or whoever comes along. Should be no more automatics…..IMHO
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I am all for competition too. Too bad there is no competition at the Defensive Tackle positions.
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Should have gotten one in the draft.
Rob Ryan did suck, or did he???
Our MLB is not mean enough. We need a smash mouther..
August 14th, 2009 at 10:06 am
Patients on Suicide watch:
Walker
garcia
fargas
Carlisle
………
Patients put in a Padded cell
JLH
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New full time NATION players
Nick Miller
Louis Rankin
August 14th, 2009 at 10:08 am
Oaklifer, what up Bretheren?????
Nick Miller is truth.
How can the NATION find so many bust in the early rounds but in the later rounds and fre agency find some gems???????
MMind boggling……
August 14th, 2009 at 10:09 am
Would we rather have Brown and Alston playing together or Morrison and Brown? Didn’t Alston blow a tackle that lead to a big gain in the first half?
August 14th, 2009 at 10:09 am
J, so how did the cow’s get 4 big run plays in 3 drives agains our 1’s?
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Trevor Scott!
On the reverse to Crayton, he bit hard on the run fake and opened up that edge.
On the Felix Jones play, he was literally thrown out of the way by the LT.
2 other times Witten blocked down on him and drove him to the ground.
It was pretty pathetic!
August 14th, 2009 at 10:10 am
Both will probable be on the practice squad….
Nick Miller
Louis Rankin
And then picked off by the pats…
August 14th, 2009 at 10:10 am
I agree about Boyd. He is raw but looks like he might be a player.
The DL is horrible. LBs are questionable. God help us if we lose one of our CBs.
I hope we don’t play many “no-huddle” offenses, they’ll
run through us like crap through a goose.
August 14th, 2009 at 10:10 am
Alston has an injury…
August 14th, 2009 at 10:11 am
Alston didn’t play last night. In a cast due to plantar fasciaits.
I’d like to see Brown in the middle, Howard weakside, and Norris strongside. Morrison is the Justin Fargas of the defense.
August 14th, 2009 at 10:12 am
tumbody pweese tell me the link
August 14th, 2009 at 10:12 am
Scotts a little light in the A$$ for that postion.
Should only play on throwing downs. Throw the new kid into the fire, he looked stout against the 2nd teamers…
August 14th, 2009 at 10:12 am
Louis Rankin and Nick Miller need to be on the team.
August 14th, 2009 at 10:13 am
No link 4eva, it’s on NFL network
August 14th, 2009 at 10:14 am
jhill Says:
August 14th, 2009 at 10:11 am
Alston didn’t play last night. In a cast due to plantar fasciaits.
I’d like to see Brown in the middle, Howard weakside, and Norris strongside. Morrison is the Justin Fargas of the defense.
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We can go with that but ditch the idea that the “incumbent” must start……
For what?
John Runyan….
August 14th, 2009 at 10:14 am
4eva, I think it is being replayed on the NFL Network…I don’t know that there is a link on which to watch the game….I might be wrong.
August 14th, 2009 at 10:14 am
Watching the replay of the game. How on earth does anyone consider putting Bush and McFadden in backup roles.
I will be incensed if Bush/DMAC are not the primary ball carriers
August 14th, 2009 at 10:14 am
thank-youuuuu!!!
August 14th, 2009 at 10:15 am
Louis Rankin = insurance policy against injury to fargas who should be traded.
Nick Miller = Because he is bad A$$….. Also an insurance policy againgt an injury.
Nick Miller > Tim Dwight
August 14th, 2009 at 10:15 am
Cornbread actually looked pretty good last night … So did Pears.
Carlisle? Not so good!
August 14th, 2009 at 10:16 am
I’ll have to watch the game again to see which LB missed that tackle…
August 14th, 2009 at 10:16 am
Oaklifer, what up Bretheren?????
Nick Miller is truth.
How can the NATION find so many bust in the early rounds but in the later rounds and fre agency find some gems???????
MMind boggling……
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Al loves to take chances and the later chances look better b/c if we cut them b no big deal but when they make noise and we keep them he looks genious…As for the early rounds if they faulter they are under spotlight,,,and if they do good its expected…I think we have been drafting really well in rounds 2-7 in the lasat few years!!
August 14th, 2009 at 10:17 am
Man, I wish we could see what Barnes could do at RT…
August 14th, 2009 at 10:18 am
jhill Says:
August 14th, 2009 at 10:12 am
Louis Rankin and Nick Miller need to be on the team.
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2ND THAT!
Can’t let talent like that just slip off to to practice squad to be picked up by another team. gotta find a way to keep ‘em fasho!
August 14th, 2009 at 10:18 am
Tom Cable needs to save that High School rah, rah B.S
If the Raiders play Bush/McFAdden with Schilens on the outside, Miller at TE and DHB/JLH outside…you have a legit offense that can hurt you on any play.
Again, someone has to explain to me the rationale for Bush/McFadden to be reserves. Its insane! What…intangibles??? Runningbacks run the football and get yards and catch the ball on screens. What of those two things does Fargas do better? And the pass blocking I saw from DMAC/Bush was outstanding
August 14th, 2009 at 10:19 am
DMAC/MBUSH should be on the field at the same time in most offensive sets period.
Cable needs to take the training wheels off his brain and put those old vets that arent performing out to pasture…..
Lets say you have a stock, you have it for 6 years and it has performed marginally. your broker tells you about these 3 new stocks, each stock will out perform the orginal stock you own by a multilpier of 2.
Do you keep the old stock for “sentimential reasons”.
Or do you jettison that stock, and pick up the other 3.
Its business not a social club or a scence project…
August 14th, 2009 at 10:20 am
Jhill,
I did see Pears drive his man backwards about 4 or 5 yards on one play…very impressive.
August 14th, 2009 at 10:20 am
Dont bother, it was Ricky Brown. Funnny as hell some of you want him over Morrison. Ricky Brown is a fringe NFL player.
August 14th, 2009 at 10:22 am
SnB,
Don’t blow a gasket over this Fargas situation. I think he carried the ball 1 time last night. It’s be about the same during the season. He’ll get 2 or 3 carries a game, and be in on plays where the RB is supposed to block.
August 14th, 2009 at 10:22 am
It was Brown? Ouch.
August 14th, 2009 at 10:23 am
Fargas, DMC, Bush all are prone to injury therefore all three are needed. Simple as that. Advocating cutting Fargas is lunacy.
August 14th, 2009 at 10:24 am
DVR’d the game so rewatching it now. How about the presence of Chaz on the catch when he slid down and got up? Not only did he get up quick enough, but he shedded a tackler and made a little hop forward on the sidelines to pick-up a few extra yards and a first down. Pretty savy for a 2nd year guy.
Tyvon Branch looks good as I re-watch. Good solid tackle on a 3rd and 4 pass to the TE short of the sticks to force a punt. Also, on the first series, 3rd down play, he came in on blitz and forced Romo to throw it up and pretty much away, forcing the punt again. Two good 3rd down plays from Branch, we are going to need that.
August 14th, 2009 at 10:24 am
Funny that some of you think Morrison is anything more than a fringe NFL player. We already have seen the evidence that Morrison can’t get the job done. Time for someone else.
August 14th, 2009 at 10:26 am
JHill,
Fargas will get the most carries in the regular season untill he gets hurt, which more than likely will happen, you are ignorant to equate preseason carries with the regular season. How many carries you figure Adrian Peterson will get tonight? 1 maybe 2.
August 14th, 2009 at 10:27 am
Wheres the evidence of Morrison not getting it done? Makes an awful lot of tackles to be a fringe player. More ignorance from JHill.
August 14th, 2009 at 10:27 am
Is that the same play that Huff also flashed an arm tackle and missed? I wanted to give him the benefit of the doubt and say the ref cut off his angle.
I always root for the player to go through the ref, lol!
August 14th, 2009 at 10:28 am
On the Cowboys TD drive, Morrison was shoved around pretty much the whole series (he did make one tackle) and was a non-factor on 3 or 4 running plays. Don’t know if Ricky Brown is the answer, but I don’t think the MLB job will be Morrison’s for too many more seasons.
August 14th, 2009 at 10:28 am
RaiderRon Says:
August 14th, 2009 at 10:26 am
JHill,
Fargas will get the most carries in the regular season untill he gets hurt, which more than likely will happen, you are ignorant to equate preseason carries with the regular season. How many carries you figure Adrian Peterson will get tonight? 1 maybe 2.
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lmao, you have to be his momma, daddy, agent or even maybe the man himself to still be advocating for Fargas.
August 14th, 2009 at 10:29 am
Will any body be in here tomarrow mornign to chat with Bob Marley and weekend warriors here on the AM crew??? I need a favor FAV!!!
August 14th, 2009 at 10:29 am
Morrison and Fargas promoter, and we’re ignorant?
I guess I can see your point. What was I thinking!
August 14th, 2009 at 10:29 am
jhill Says:
August 14th, 2009 at 10:12 am
Louis Rankin and Nick Miller need to be on the team.
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2ND THAT!
3RD THAT!!!
August 14th, 2009 at 10:31 am
Good comeback. Notice you have no argument to either of my points.
1) Morrison makes a ton of tackles to be a “fringe” player.
2) All 3 backs are prone to injury so all 3 are needed.
August 14th, 2009 at 10:32 am
4evaRaider Says:
August 14th, 2009 at 10:29 am
jhill Says:
August 14th, 2009 at 10:12 am
Louis Rankin and Nick Miller need to be on the team.
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2ND THAT!
3RD THAT!!!
4th THAT!!!!
August 14th, 2009 at 10:32 am
I think the O-line did pretty good with their zone blocking assignments.
JAM looked comfortable back there in the pocket. Man, I hope they can keep it up.
Ricky Brown is a second string bench warmer!
August 14th, 2009 at 10:33 am
I still think Holland is the most likely 6th WR if we keep that many and if Walker is one of them. He is the best special teamer between him, Watkins and Miller, and plays on almost all the units, as he did last year.
On the ST note, I hope Ike is OK. The type of play he made to open the game is why he went to Hawaii last year.
August 14th, 2009 at 10:37 am
I’ll B here in am Oaklifer…whats up???
August 14th, 2009 at 10:37 am
A.M. sorry
August 14th, 2009 at 10:38 am
Jamarcus almost has TOO much arm to throw those deep sideline balls. They tend to flutter a little when throwing around 45-55 yard passes. His cannon looks the best on the 15-25 passes where they have some serious zip, and I just don’t know if he will ever be a great deep-ball thrower.
August 14th, 2009 at 10:38 am
Dude, I mean Ron, I mean, whoever the hell you are today …
We’ve had this discussion a thousand times.
1) Morrison makes a ton of tackles ….
Where was he on the 2nd series? On the Felix Jones run for big yards, why is a G on the opposite side able to get a block on him 5yds down the field? Why was he not in the gap? Happens to many times. Even when he finally sheds the block he makes tackles 5 to 7 yds down field. Read his own words on NFL.com and HE will tell you he needs to improve there. 4 years later and he’s still working on that? NEXT!
2) All 3 backs are injury ….
Didn’t I ask you to go look up the word prone? 1 injury does not make you injury prone. Bush hurt his leg 1 time. Dmac had turf toe 1 time. Fargas is hurt all the time. When you find out what prone means, then you have the answer to your question.
August 14th, 2009 at 10:39 am
Vegas – I agree man he just does not seem to have the bulk and tenacity for the MLB. He is quick and can drop back in coverage for some INT’s in the flats but you have to be intense to be a MLB. He just does not seem that intense. He should be pushing and knocking guys on their @$$ even if they don’t have the ball to get to the runner. He needs a mean streak. Maybe that is why Cable is pushing him so hard, it seemed to work for Robert Gallery. But yes, you are right does not seem like the long term answer.
August 14th, 2009 at 10:39 am
jhill Says:
August 14th, 2009 at 10:22 am
SnB,
Don’t blow a gasket over this Fargas situation. I think he carried the ball 1 time last night. It’s be about the same during the season. He’ll get 2 or 3 carries a game, and be in on plays where the RB is supposed to block.
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JHill,
This offense actually has some real potential here. I am watching the replay on NFLN….and seeing DMAC and Bush runnning the football…and seeing DMAC on those screens is a key to winning games. And winning against good football teams as well.
I think there is some HOPE around here that Cable will do the right thing. Why is Fargas out there with the 1st team? Some elaborate motivating technique? Nope. Cable believes in his mind that Fargas is the best running back. But everytime I see the guy run he tries to jump through the line of scrimmage and doesn’t make much happen.
I won’t be convinced about the depth chart until I see DMAC/Bush on the 1st team on the 1st drive of the 1st possession of the 1st QTR.
DMAC ripping off long-runs and Bush ripping off 5yd+ runs…..and Cable still entertaining the idea of a 3-man platoon.
Its really quite stupid!
August 14th, 2009 at 10:41 am
The most obvious starters that need to be replaced …
Fargas
Carlisle
Neal
Scott
Morrison
Eugene
August 14th, 2009 at 10:41 am
Thec07 Says:
August 14th, 2009 at 10:19 am
DMAC/MBUSH should be on the field at the same time in most offensive sets period.
Cable needs to take the training wheels off his brain and put those old vets that arent performing out to pasture…..
August 14th, 2009 at 10:42 am
vegas raider Says:
August 14th, 2009 at 10:28 am
On the Cowboys TD drive, Morrison was shoved around pretty much the whole series (he did make one tackle) and was a non-factor on 3 or 4 running plays. Don’t know if Ricky Brown is the answer, but I don’t think the MLB job will be Morrison’s for too many more seasons.
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Tell em again Vegas!
August 14th, 2009 at 10:43 am
Ron?
Ron?
Dude?
Anyone?
Anyone?
August 14th, 2009 at 10:44 am
Morrison- You dont know where he is supposed to be on any play so dont act like you know his “gaps”. He got engulfed by Leonard Davis, most MLBs would, on that play. Morrison is no All Pro, no way is he a “fringe” player. Fact is he is a good player, nothing more, nothing less.
RBs- DMC had more than the turf toe, banged his shoulder up too. When is the last time Michael Bush played a whole season injury free??
August 14th, 2009 at 10:45 am
I’ll B here in am Oaklifer…whats up???
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4-eva,
I was going to have ou hit him with some info for me on a second FFL league he asked me to post around 10 EST which is 7 my time AndIll be busy……??
Could you kind sir???
August 14th, 2009 at 10:45 am
Man …I can get 2 nfl network but cant find da game
August 14th, 2009 at 10:46 am
jhill Says:
August 14th, 2009 at 10:41 am
The most obvious starters that need to be replaced …
Fargas
Carlisle
Neal
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Who is Neal??????
August 14th, 2009 at 10:49 am
4eva you can listen at thhat ahdtv.net site or what ever it was i listrn in this morning also check you tube and other random sites I ve heard and watches bout 3/4ths of the gam ehere @ work albeit patched together..but better than nothing…..
August 14th, 2009 at 10:49 am
Oak,
The old ass FB we picked up. Did u see him on that pass to the flat?
And he was kinda slow as a lead blocker. Too bad we didn’t get him 4 or 5 years ago.
August 14th, 2009 at 10:49 am
Lorenzo
Sure could OAKLIFER
August 14th, 2009 at 10:51 am
Could of had big Rey out of USC. So what if he is considered a two down backer. Who needs a three down backer if the other teams picks up first downs on second down
August 14th, 2009 at 10:52 am
You dont know where he is supposed to be on any play so dont act like you know his “gaps”.
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I know his gap wasn’t 5 yds down the field where he lined up. He should not have been engulfed 5 yds down the field, EXACTLY WHERE HE LINED UP! Engulfed in the hole, totally different story.
He is not the answer at MLB, plain and simple.
Only reason you must want Fargas and Morrison to stay in there is you MUST be a fan of a team we are going to play.
August 14th, 2009 at 10:53 am
Lerenzo should stay imho with OO being a Q mark with his injuries..plus a savvy vet in the locker room…
4th and goal on the 3 yrd line it looks like a big package Bush behind Oneal in the backfield the snap looks like off the left gaurd with LeRenzo clearing the way smashes in to Merriman bush rumbles in !!! TD!!!!
August 14th, 2009 at 10:54 am
The fact that you blame Fargas and Morrison for the Raiders woes the last few years proves your ignorance. You are ignorant, plain and simple. NEXT!
August 14th, 2009 at 10:55 am
vegas raider Says:
August 14th, 2009 at 10:38 am
Jamarcus almost has TOO much arm to throw those deep sideline balls. They tend to flutter a little when throwing around 45-55 yard passes. His cannon looks the best on the 15-25 passes where they have some serious zip, and I just don’t know if he will ever be a great deep-ball thrower.
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To early to tell but d@mn I love the potential when he rockets that ball to a WR. Plus, most QBs in the NFL game are throwing mainly 15-25 yard passes. May never be a Brady or Manning.
August 14th, 2009 at 10:57 am
4eva,
if you could for Bob Marley if you see him…..
JerryMac’sKidz2
(ID# 574390)
PW: NATION
Thanks man!!!!
August 14th, 2009 at 10:59 am
JHill,
There really isn’t any upgrade options on the defense. Really didn’t do anything in the draft at the positions of deep concern. I think Huff should play in front of Eugene…
August 14th, 2009 at 11:01 am
Oaklifer,
Hey, Huff got a pick and played well. Remember last night I picked him as a stand out on Defense? Hahaha, I felt it baby, and he came through. Hopefully we can turn THAT #7 pick into a playmaker finally. He has been disapointing at best since we drafted him.
Looked good though, especially that pick coliding with the reciever. I’m gonna drink some Huff kool-aid for a few weeks and see where is gets him.
August 14th, 2009 at 11:03 am
AZ,
“Looked good though, especially that pick coliding with the reciever. I’m gonna drink some Huff kool-aid for a few weeks and see where is gets him.”
He looked good at times!!! NO MORE ARM tackles thou!!
Man he timed that hit at pick perfectly those were the bawlhawk skills I seen at Texas!!!!
TheKool-aidPimp!!
LOL I see Jerry was showing you love yesterday that had to be you in live chat no???
August 14th, 2009 at 11:04 am
OAKlifer, I went in the NFL.com pool and joined a league, what you think of this team:
Tom Brady, Matt Hasslebeck
DMAC, Willis McGahee, LenDale White, Marshawn Lynch
Jeremy Maclin, Reggie Wayne, Santana Moss, Muhammed Muhsin
Jason Witten, Jeremy Shockey
Adam Vinatieri
Ravens for D
August 14th, 2009 at 11:04 am
RaiderRon Says:
August 14th, 2009 at 10:54 am
The fact that you blame Fargas and Morrison for the Raiders woes the last few years proves your ignorance. You are ignorant, plain and simple. NEXT!
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Raider Ron, I think it would be crazy to blame Fargas and Morrison for the Raiders woes last 2 yrs but I think it is crazy not to look at their limitations. Fargas is a good running back 3-5yards a pop. Bush and DMAC can get you 10-15-20-to the house! Plus they both catch so well out the backfield and can turn it up for 10-15 yards, which makes it easier for JAM to get a 1st and keep the chains moving.
Now Morrison needs to be more aggresive! Yes, his D-lines stinks! Yes he needs a nose guard to clog up the middle and free him up from the pulling guards. But you know what he still has the ability to flip some guys on their back. I want to see him mix it up a little more. You have to do more than make tackles 5-10 yards down field and get an occassional int. He needs to blow somebody up!
August 14th, 2009 at 11:05 am
Glad 2B of service OAKlifer =)
August 14th, 2009 at 11:06 am
Raider Headbutt Says:
August 14th, 2009 at 11:04 am
OAKlifer, I went in the NFL.com pool and joined a league, what you think of this team:
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Looks nice but your WR core is weak at best you should check the waiver wire maybe even offer Hassellback and or M lynch for a Number 1 guy You need a real number 1 or else your rolling with second options….
Other than that nice draft Ravens D!!!!! They always rock!!!
August 14th, 2009 at 11:07 am
How about Kelly, Sands, Warrren, Ellis starting on run downs with Kelly sliding over on passing downs for Sands and Scott coming in at DE.
August 14th, 2009 at 11:07 am
K the last time I checked the raiders don’t play a 3-4 defense. We don’t need a NT unless you mean a more than capable DT or a couple of them to clog the middle.
August 14th, 2009 at 11:08 am
Thanks4eva you tha man!!!!!!!!!
thers plenty of room there if your looking at running two teams this year!!!
August 14th, 2009 at 11:09 am
It was tough, I was last pick out of the 12 teams in the first round so I tried to get value in #’s I guess lol
August 14th, 2009 at 11:09 am
JHill,
What are your opinions on the defense so-far?
I am a little uncomfortable with what I saw from the 1st team defense. It looked largely the same. Some pressure on the 1st drive…but then same ole stuff….Romo sitting back in absolute comfort.
August 14th, 2009 at 11:11 am
Tom Brady, Jason Witten, LenDale White
Wow for having th12th pick you did VERY well
And Moss and Wayne should provide enough at theWR spot for you good work!!
August 14th, 2009 at 11:12 am
I hear ya SnB…I also thought we needed DT’s but Big Al saw something diffrent.It is ,after all,only the 1st pre-season game and maybe its gonna take a few games 4 the line 2 understand The Marshall Plan.I hope its technique because as you rightly say;its slim pickens at DT
August 14th, 2009 at 11:14 am
Paging RAIDERDRE Paging RAIDERDRE……………
August 14th, 2009 at 11:14 am
Raider Headbutt Says:
August 14th, 2009 at 11:07 am
K the last time I checked the raiders don’t play a 3-4 defense. We don’t need a NT unless you mean a more than capable DT or a couple of them to clog the middle.
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If you are refering to me as “K” you are right that is what I mean. Out tackles should be getting more push and using those big bodies to clog up the middle which frees up our LBs to find the runners.
I think we need a nose guard. We need more rush up the middle. Romo had way to much time.
August 14th, 2009 at 11:16 am
thers plenty of room there if your looking at running two teams this year!!!
I can barley find my way around certain web-sites now and I’ll prolly be late 4 my game vs. Dakota,so theres is NOO way I could run 2 teams but thankx anyway =)
August 14th, 2009 at 11:19 am
SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
August 14th, 2009 at 11:09 am
JHill,
What are your opinions on the defense so-far?
I am a little uncomfortable with what I saw from the 1st team defense. It looked largely the same. Some pressure on the 1st drive…but then same ole stuff….Romo sitting back in absolute comfort.
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I AGREE 100% WHY WE DID NOT SPEND MORE MONEY ON ANOTHER TACKLE IS BEYOND ME MAN!!!! THEY SUCK!!!!
NO DOUBT, NO DOUBT!!!!
August 14th, 2009 at 11:22 am
Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
August 25th, 2008 at 6:51 am
Doug Gabriel does not get great separation…he is a lot like Curry. Great guy though. He could be an adequate returner, but there have to be better WR options out there after cuts. For now Lane has to get Watkins and Schilens some first team reps and see what blossoms.
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Take note BSJ has wanted CHAZ out there since this time last year……No BSJ im not stalking you I was looking for a convo Raiderdre and I had awhile back and came across this gem!!!
GOOD WORK!!!!!
August 14th, 2009 at 11:22 am
OAKlifer Says:
August 14th, 2009 at 11:03 am
AZ,
“Looked good though, especially that pick coliding with the reciever. I’m gonna drink some Huff kool-aid for a few weeks and see where is gets him.”
He looked good at times!!! NO MORE ARM tackles thou!!
Man he timed that hit at pick perfectly those were the bawlhawk skills I seen at Texas!!!!
TheKool-aidPimp!!
LOL I see Jerry was showing you love yesterday that had to be you in live chat no???
…………………………………………….
You know it!
9-7!
THE KOOL-AID PIMP IS SERVIN!
DRINK IT!
LOL
August 14th, 2009 at 11:24 am
How did the DE’s play last night? I know there wasn’t much penetration or pressure and this is not just the DT’s fault as the ends should be getting there as well.
August 14th, 2009 at 11:24 am
and I’ll prolly be late 4 my game vs. Dakota,
You wont be late brother your roster will be set saturday night……and your guys will go out and score you points even if you sleep till noon you ca still win!!!!!
But I understand thanks for hooking Marley up tho!!!!
August 14th, 2009 at 11:26 am
THE KOOL-AID PIMP IS SERVIN!
DRINK IT!
LOL,
AZ,
He showed me love too with my Boyd question I bet he was thinking man how did that guy on live chat know Boyd was going to lead the team in tackles!!!! LOL Jerry think Im genious…..Its nice to go out on limbs when it works out!!! LOL
August 14th, 2009 at 11:27 am
How did the DE’s play last night?,,
IMHO…they did better than the DT…..on the first cowboy play I think Ellis swated down the romo pass in the back filed and Kinta got eatin alive by Jrich at one point…but we need more base type of guys at the End spot!!!
August 14th, 2009 at 11:29 am
SnB,
More of the same as last year. Replacing Kalimba Edwards with Trevor Scott seems like a step backwards, IMO. And Morrison is still not getting in done. No coinkydink that the big runs went to the right side of our defense.
I saw Kelly constantly doubled, and I thought Warren should have been able to get off that C when he was single blocked on the Jones run. I thought Joseph played really well.
I think we need to see Shaugnessy start at RDE with Scott coming in on passing downs. I think Brown needs to get a shot at MLB, and I think Huff needs to start over Eugene.
August 14th, 2009 at 11:33 am
The DTs simply can not be the scapegoat here again. The issue was CLEARLY Trevor Scott on the edge. All the successful plays went to that side. All Dallas did was overload their right side, create a one on one matchup against Scott, and ran right through that hole. Even the reverse took advantage of him. Just like it was Kalimba Edwards last year. We can expect the DTs to cut off the edges. Ellis played good, and so did Richards. I think we are good at base DE. But the right side is a BIG problem is Scott starts, and Morrison is expected to have his back.
August 14th, 2009 at 11:43 am
JHill,
I agree with your assessment. The pass rush disappointed me the most. Outside of the first play with Ellis…Romo had too much time on those two drives. Linebackers were non-existant again…not playing downhill.
Marshall and company have some work to do. Hope they are studying the hell out that tape
August 14th, 2009 at 11:43 am
RaiderRon Says:
August 14th, 2009 at 10:31 am
Good comeback. Notice you have no argument to either of my points.
1) Morrison makes a ton of tackles to be a “fringe” player.
2) All 3 backs are prone to injury so all 3 are needed.
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1) All MLB’s make a ton of tackles – his are too late.
2) Prove it. Bush 1 broken leg, DMAC – Turf toes. Rankin ?
August 14th, 2009 at 11:43 am
Not to many MLB are going to shed Davis when he gets a clean run at them. Lets be patient, maybe we will start to run blitz more. Results could not be worse.
August 14th, 2009 at 11:45 am
How did the Cowboys shredd the Raiders defense for runs of 8, 14 and 12 yards within a four-play span midway through the first quarter??????
August 14th, 2009 at 11:47 am
Each of the aforementioned runs netted a first down
August 14th, 2009 at 11:48 am
I think Fargas should play defensive end in place of Scott since you all talk about the guy like he is a little mid-god on this blog. LOL!!!!
August 14th, 2009 at 11:48 am
AGREED , LETS HOPE AFTER WATCHING the game tape adjustments will be made. Cowboys have a huge o-line, not an excuse just a fact. Scott had a ruff day. Maybe should look at bigger base end.
August 14th, 2009 at 11:49 am
RaiderRon Says:
August 14th, 2009 at 10:54 am
The fact that you blame Fargas and Morrison for the Raiders woes the last few years proves your ignorance. You are ignorant, plain and simple. NEXT!
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Prove it
August 14th, 2009 at 11:54 am
** “Justin Fargas started and had one carry for 2 yards over left guard. He also had a goal-line rush for no gain that didn’t count because of Carlisle’s holding penalty. That’s right, Fargas couldn’t dive it in with the help of cheating.”
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Hey, I didn’t say it. David White did….
9-7!
KEEP RANKIN!
August 14th, 2009 at 11:55 am
hellsbells Says:
August 14th, 2009 at 11:48 am
AGREED , LETS HOPE AFTER WATCHING the game tape adjustments will be made. Cowboys have a huge o-line, not an excuse just a fact. Scott had a ruff day. Maybe should look at bigger base end.
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They better get used to physical O-Lines. The schedule is littered with teams that like to play smashmouth football. NFC East, AFC North, Jets….that front 7 has to get their collective heads out of their backside and get ready to be physical.
Good news! The offense is going to be fun to watch if DMAC/Bush are playing. Period. Russell was 6/6 on the short and intermediate stuff….and probably would have hit Schilens for a TD had he been able to plant his foot and throw…still got the pass interference.
So, someone email or call Tom Cable and tell him to play DMAC and Bush all 4 QTRS
August 14th, 2009 at 11:57 am
Scott is supposed to be a work horse so maybe he will make some big improvements. It is preseason so maybe they were holding back on some blitz packages.
Naaaaaaaahh doubt it!
Romo could have made out with Jessica had a cigarette gave her a cheese sandwich and dumped her again and still made that pass to the tightened right outside Dallas’s end zone.
Every defender we had was straight up in the air getting no penetration.
August 14th, 2009 at 11:59 am
I am emailing the Cable Guy now and I don’t want to hear that Fargas has heart BS! He plays running back in the NFL he better!
August 14th, 2009 at 11:59 am
** Making matters more glaring, Darren McFadden took over on the third drive and showed great burst on a 13-yard turn around right tackle.
One play earlier, McFadden failed to pick up a middle blitz and Russell was sacked for an 11-yard loss. Two plays later, McFadden applied the lesson learned with a huge blitz block to spring Russell for an 18-yard rumble.
McFadden finished the second quarter with a mighty 47-yard run. He swept left, cut inside the tackle and powered past the flat-footed second level on his way to the Cowboys 17.
Wow. So why is he not starting?
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Some more of David Whites DMAC propaganda.
10-6?
KEEP RANKIN!
LOL
August 14th, 2009 at 12:00 pm
Most impressive last night:
1. Schilens: Looks like an absolute beast. Size, speed, hands, toughness — the kid’s got it all. Now I’m just hoping they keep him under wraps for the rest of the preseason so I can still steal him late in my fantasy draft.
2. DMC: His burst is unreal. Such a talented, exciting player. He’s ready to rock n roll.
3. Mario: Held up again against one of the best pass rushers in the game (DeMarcus Ware).
4. Gradkowski: Showed poise, accuracy, good decision-making and got the ball out Drew-Brees quick. Basically the anti-Andrew Walter.
5. Slade Norris: Played like Chuck. Very active. Could vie for the SLB spot.
6. All the WRs: There are 9 or 10 WRs on this team who look like they should be on someone’s NFL roster. No drops, guys were open, Schilens was unreal, Miller with a tremendous catch.
7. JaMarcus: Wasn’t perfect but I thought his progress was clearly evident. His arm is just in a league of its own. No other NFL QB’s compares. Quick release. Looked off the safeties at times. Nice 17-yard run. Very good progress.
8. Michael Bush: Didn’t get a lot of chances, but did a great job of picking up a blitz and when he carried the ball it’s clear this dude is just an ox. He’s got to see the ball A LOT MORE in 2009.
9. Thomas Howard: He didn’t make any big plays but was very active and around the ball at all times.
NOT VERY IMPRESSIVE:
1. Stanford Routt: Tough night. I’ve seen the guy play well in the reg. season and I believe he’s a solid CB, but he got picked on last night. Chris Johnson has separation for the starting spot opposite Nnamdi.
2. The d-line: Not much pressure from the starters aside from Ellis on the first play. Scott was invisible. Too many big running lanes in the 1st quarter, especially after improving the Run D has been the entire talk of the off-season. Raiders should keep an eye on the waiver wire to see if anyone out there can step in and bolster this unit. Losing Burgess could definitely hurt us this year. Blitzing will be a MUST!!! The no-blitzing mentality could crush this team. Dallas’ lone TD came on a play where we only rushed 3 d-linemen and the QB found a pocket and had plenty of time.
3. The interior of the o-line: Gallery was out remember. Carlisle picked up a couple of penalties and they failed to get a push up the middle in that 1st quarter. Let a blitzer come free right up the gut once or twice. Satele and the backups fared very well vs. Dallas’ backup defense though.
August 14th, 2009 at 12:02 pm
Also, forgot Rankin among most impressive.
For the second straight preseason he looks like a gem.
I know Fargas is a team leader and has a 1,000-yard season on his resume, but I’m not convinced Rankin isn’t one of the 3 best RBs on this team right now.
August 14th, 2009 at 12:05 pm
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Raiders notebook: Heyward-Bey gets start against CowboysEarly results look good for RaidersCandid Cam: Countdown to Raiders-DallasInman: Raiders need big helping of D-MacOAKLAND _ One game into a preseason few will remember, we can hold these truths to be self-evident for the Raiders.
No sense in waiting. In the age of instant media, having tweeted and blogged my way through a 31-10 win over the Dallas Cowboys at the Coliseum, I’ll go ahead and jump to these conclusions:
No. 1: The Raiders have found their lead receiver for JaMarcus Russell. If they do this right, they’ll play Chaz Schilens in the first series or so of the next two games, then shut him down completely against Seattle.
I speculated during the offseason that the reason the Raiders were able to pass on Michael Crabtree was the presence of Schilens, who at 6-foot-4 and 225 pounds, is bigger, faster and performs the same role in the offense.
Schilens was targeted five times and caught five passes for 52 yards. On one pass that didn’t count, Schilens got loose behind the Dallas secondary and drew a 47-yard penalty on Gerald Sensabaugh, setting up Sebastian Janikowski’s 23-yard field goal.
“When you see a guy like that going up against some small corner, sometimes he battles little guys and you really get a chance to make a play,” Russell said.
Comparing Crabtree with Darrius Heyward-Bey misses the point. You don’t need Crabtree when you’ve got Schilens. And Schilens is getting seventh-round money while Crabtree waits to be paid better than Heyward-Bey and could be a non-factor all year.
If you’re a Raiders fan, with the 49ers coming up next,
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August 14th, 2009 at 12:06 pm
Jhill,
After you said G. Warren and C. Green had good games (I think you were the one that said it) I went home for lunch and watched the first quarter and the first 3 minutes of the second quarter on DVR and I focused on G. Warren and C. Green.
Green first: On running plays he kicked major ass. On passing plays, I counted three times where he ended up barely even blocking anyone and just kind of standing alone not doing anything…but I think his guy only pressured the QB once and I don’t think he had any penalties. So all in all, not a bad game for him.
G. Warren: He was blasted backwards several times on running plays. I only saw him double teamed once, maybe twice, but he was blown backwards when blocked one on one several times. He is horrible against the run. Watch him get trucked on the play where Dallas almost scored on the goal line, right before the penalty set them back on their second drive….just awful, and on Dallas’ first drive he got pushed backwards like he weighed 250 lbs…by one blocker. Sorry, can’t blame the DE for him getting his ass handed to him. He did penetrate twice…once pressuring the QB, the other time just flopping on the ground…and I don’t think he made one play. They kept running right at him. He really needs to be replaced.
August 14th, 2009 at 12:07 pm
Rankin may not be better than Fargas RIGHT NOW, but we know what Fargas brings to the table. He’s peaked, we know what he is and it won’t change. A good back in Fargas, but Rankin has so much more upside. He’s young and what you see NOW is just the BEGINNING. Rankin can get batter…. Fargas is what he is…
9-7!
KEEP RANKIN!
August 14th, 2009 at 12:08 pm
AZ Raider Says:
August 14th, 2009 at 11:59 am
** Making matters more glaring, Darren McFadden took over on the third drive and showed great burst on a 13-yard turn around right tackle.
One play earlier, McFadden failed to pick up a middle blitz and Russell was sacked for an 11-yard loss. Two plays later, McFadden applied the lesson learned with a huge blitz block to spring Russell for an 18-yard rumble.
McFadden finished the second quarter with a mighty 47-yard run. He swept left, cut inside the tackle and powered past the flat-footed second level on his way to the Cowboys 17.
Wow. So why is he not starting?
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But, he got CAUGHT!!! So much for 4.25 speed
August 14th, 2009 at 12:09 pm
WR corps caught practicly every thing thrown their way.
August 14th, 2009 at 12:11 pm
DirtyRaccoon Says:
August 14th, 2009 at 12:08 pm
AZ Raider Says:
August 14th, 2009 at 11:59 am
** Making matters more glaring, Darren McFadden took over on the third drive and showed great burst on a 13-yard turn around right tackle.
One play earlier, McFadden failed to pick up a middle blitz and Russell was sacked for an 11-yard loss. Two plays later, McFadden applied the lesson learned with a huge blitz block to spring Russell for an 18-yard rumble.
McFadden finished the second quarter with a mighty 47-yard run. He swept left, cut inside the tackle and powered past the flat-footed second level on his way to the Cowboys 17.
Wow. So why is he not starting?
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But, he got CAUGHT!!! So much for 4.25 speed
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Way better than Fargas 2 carries for like no yards.
Mcfadden needs to start. He will set the tempo of the offense from the start.
August 14th, 2009 at 12:12 pm
Dirty that was the SS who pushed him out….best angle on the field to get there before the TD. He was NOT run down from behind like last year in KC with his turf toe.
August 14th, 2009 at 12:12 pm
Chris in NY,
Good post bro!!!! nice assesment!!
Hey bro you have any intrest in a FFL League with Bob Marley and some other poster in here,…..
3 Ring whats up man how you like your new madden????
August 14th, 2009 at 12:13 pm
MCFADDEN’S 60 MILLION DOLLAR CONTRACT IS A BIG REASON WHY THIS BEAST SHOULD BE IN BARRING INJURIES. tHEN BUSH SHOULD CARRY THE LOAD
August 14th, 2009 at 12:13 pm
# DirtyRaccoon Says:
August 14th, 2009 at 12:08 pm
AZ Raider Says:
August 14th, 2009 at 11:59 am
** Making matters more glaring, Darren McFadden took over on the third drive and showed great burst on a 13-yard turn around right tackle.
One play earlier, McFadden failed to pick up a middle blitz and Russell was sacked for an 11-yard loss. Two plays later, McFadden applied the lesson learned with a huge blitz block to spring Russell for an 18-yard rumble.
McFadden finished the second quarter with a mighty 47-yard run. He swept left, cut inside the tackle and powered past the flat-footed second level on his way to the Cowboys 17.
Wow. So why is he not starting?
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But, he got CAUGHT!!! So much for 4.25 speed
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The defender had the angle. It’s not like he chased him down from behind. Usain Bolt would’ve got caught.
August 14th, 2009 at 12:15 pm
AZ Raider Says:
August 14th, 2009 at 12:12 pm
Dirty that was the SS who pushed him out….best angle on the field to get there before the TD. He was NOT run down from behind like last year in KC with his turf toe.
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Bro Right on the $$$$$!!!!
THis morning I wish I was on my toes when I heard some one else say the same thing!!!!
August 14th, 2009 at 12:16 pm
McFadden didn’t get “caught”, a freaking defender had the angle and he was pinned near the sideline. Come on. If you couldn’t see the speed hit turned the corner with on his first carry and the way he burst through into the secondary on his long run, well, you need glasses!
August 14th, 2009 at 12:16 pm
OAKlifer Says:
August 14th, 2009 at 12:12 pm
Chris in NY,
Good post bro!!!! nice assesment!!
Hey bro you have any intrest in a FFL League with Bob Marley and some other poster in here,…..
3 Ring whats up man how you like your new madden????
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IM overseas and when i went to my local Navy Exchange they only had MADDEN 10 AVAILABLE FOR PS3 AND WII.
I WAS PISSED OFF!
WHO THE HELL PLAYS MADDEN 10 ON PS3 OR WII?!!!!!!!
OHH WELL ILL JUST HAVE TO WAIT TILL NEXT WEEK BECAUSE THE LOCAL SPANISH HAVE A HOLIDAY THIS WEEKEND AND THEY HARDLY WORK!!!!!!
August 14th, 2009 at 12:16 pm
The defender had the angle. It’s not like he chased him down from behind. Usain Bolt would’ve got caught.
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Again right on the $$$$$$$$
August 14th, 2009 at 12:18 pm
OHH WELL ILL JUST HAVE TO WAIT TILL NEXT WEEK BECAUSE THE LOCAL SPANISH HAVE A HOLIDAY THIS WEEKEND AND THEY HARDLY WORK!!!!!!
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F that!!!!!
LOL ,,, Sorry bro I just remember chatting yesterday about it!!1 You have good internet acess over there want in on a blog FFL????
August 14th, 2009 at 12:19 pm
OAKlifer Says:
August 14th, 2009 at 12:15 pm
AZ Raider Says:
August 14th, 2009 at 12:12 pm
Dirty that was the SS who pushed him out….best angle on the field to get there before the TD. He was NOT run down from behind like last year in KC with his turf toe.
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Bro Right on the $$$$$!!!!
THis morning I wish I was on my toes when I heard some one else say the same thing!!!!
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MCFADDEN NEEDS TO BE IN THERE SO WHEN MADDEN 10 UPDATES THE ROSTERS THEY UP HIS OVR RATING
MCFADDEN RATING IS 79
KNOWSHON MORENO ROOKIE RATING=83
I SWEAR MCFADDEN WAS LEAPS AND BOUNDS BETTER THAT HIM
August 14th, 2009 at 12:21 pm
OAKlifer Says:
August 14th, 2009 at 12:18 pm
OHH WELL ILL JUST HAVE TO WAIT TILL NEXT WEEK BECAUSE THE LOCAL SPANISH HAVE A HOLIDAY THIS WEEKEND AND THEY HARDLY WORK!!!!!!
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F that!!!!!
LOL ,,, Sorry bro I just remember chatting yesterday about it!!1 You have good internet acess over there want in on a blog FFL????
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do you mean fantasy football league?
if so im in
whats the info i need to get in?
August 14th, 2009 at 12:23 pm
Dakota,
I did say that Green played well. I guess what I meant by that was he played better than he did last year? No penalties, and no sacks given up is huge progress to me.
I didn’t so much say Warren played well as I did Trevor Scott played bad. And I said that Warren and Kelly weren’t playing up to their contract. Warren was doubled at least twice from what I saw, but didn’t look to impressive on the plays where he was singled. Specifically like I mentioned earier, the Felix Jones run, he should’ve been able to beat the single block of the C.
August 14th, 2009 at 12:24 pm
do you mean fantasy football league?
if so im in
whats the info i need to get in?
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JerryMac’sKidz2
(ID# 574390)
PW: NATION
Yahoo free league, its the second one we set up A few peeps didnt get in on the first one!!
August 14th, 2009 at 12:24 pm
you guys do understand these are practice games,right?and what are prctice games for-to see what needs to be worked on and then fix it.it was obvious Morrison is a weak link.the problem may be we have nobody to take his placei have to laugh when people bring up the point that he leads the team in tackles-so did Schweigert.Scott is young and hopefully will improve.on the TD pass we only rushed 3 and it didn’t work.that’s what practice games are for-see what you can do and what doesn’t work.also,SnB sayshe hopes Marshall takes the film and studies it-what the he!! do you think the coaches do,throw the tape in the trash can.as far as Fargas goes,ya lets sit him and make Bush and Mac play the whole practice games so they can get the crap beat out of them in practice and be hurt once the real games start.
August 14th, 2009 at 12:25 pm
Maybe JRuss getting rid of the ball faster made me think Green was doing more than he was …
August 14th, 2009 at 12:25 pm
i also got the NFL GAME PASS THIS YEAR. I WAS WATCHING THE FIRST GAME AGAINST SD LAST YEAR AND JAMARCUS RUSSELL WAS 9/10 IN THE PASS. BUT WHEN CURRY TRIED TO CATCH A SURE FIRST DOWN HE DROPPED IT.
THUS THE THIRD QUARTER MELT DOWN.
August 14th, 2009 at 12:26 pm
Thanks OAKlifer.
Yeah, I’d consider joining another league with some RAIDUHZ fans. Do you have one already set up online somehwere?
August 14th, 2009 at 12:27 pm
I’ll take your word on G Warren … I couldn’t get past Trevor Scott not only looking as small as Rudy, but playing that way too.
I’ll have to cue it up again in a bit, but it’s safe to say that a power house DT is in order.
August 14th, 2009 at 12:28 pm
Funny no one is even talking about Sands anymore. It’s like he’s already been cut
August 14th, 2009 at 12:28 pm
i also got the NFL GAME PASS THIS YEAR. I WAS WATCHING THE FIRST GAME AGAINST SD LAST YEAR AND JAMARCUS RUSSELL WAS 9/10 IN THE PASS. BUT WHEN CURRY TRIED TO CATCH A SURE FIRST DOWN HE DROPPED IT.
THUS THE THIRD QUARTER MELT DOWN.
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Yes I agree we are close man we lost alot of close games over the last two years but then we have the Denver blow out…..we need to shore up a bit on both lines hope like hell our safties play like mad men!!! and pray the LB comp works it self out!! But we are close!!!
Come Rise With Us!!!!!
August 14th, 2009 at 12:29 pm
Chris in NY Says:
August 14th, 2009 at 12:26 pm
Thanks OAKlifer.
Yeah, I’d consider joining another league with some RAIDUHZ fans. Do you have one already set up online somehwere?
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JerryMac’sKidz2
(ID# 574390)
PW: NATION
Yahoo free league, its the second one we set up A few peeps didnt get in on the first one!!
August 14th, 2009 at 12:31 pm
Sands?!?!??!!
August 14th, 2009 at 12:31 pm
I think we are on the same page Jhill. Our D-line is in some serious trouble…especially on the right side…
IMO…playing with two UTs and weak DEs is killing us. I know some of the blame for the problems against the run fall on the shoulders of the LBs, but I would imagine that if we had a big NT playing next to TK occupying the G and C (instead of G. Warren who is usually handled one on one), and a big, strong base DE our LBs might be opened up to make a lot of plays, even Morrison.
Oh well, Al Davis is the Defensive genius…not us.
August 14th, 2009 at 12:31 pm
THREE RING CIRCUS Says:
August 14th, 2009 at 12:11 pm
DirtyRaccoon Says:
August 14th, 2009 at 12:08 pm
AZ Raider Says:
August 14th, 2009 at 11:59 am
** Making matters more glaring, Darren McFadden took over on the third drive and showed great burst on a 13-yard turn around right tackle.
One play earlier, McFadden failed to pick up a middle blitz and Russell was sacked for an 11-yard loss. Two plays later, McFadden applied the lesson learned with a huge blitz block to spring Russell for an 18-yard rumble.
McFadden finished the second quarter with a mighty 47-yard run. He swept left, cut inside the tackle and powered past the flat-footed second level on his way to the Cowboys 17.
Wow. So why is he not starting?
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But, he got CAUGHT!!! So much for 4.25 speed
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Way better than Fargas 2 carries for like no yards.
Mcfadden needs to start. He will set the tempo of the offense from the start.
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Bro Right on the $$$$$!!!!
THis morning I wish I was on my toes when I heard some one else say the same thing!!!!
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The defender had the angle. It’s not like he chased him down from behind. Usain Bolt would’ve got caught.
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McFadden didn’t get “caught”, a freaking defender had the angle and he was pinned near the sideline. Come on. If you couldn’t see the speed hit turned the corner with on his first carry and the way he burst through into the secondary on his long run, well, you need glasses!
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Look homers, I know Faddy is fast, he is just NOT as fast as advertised!! “angles” are a secondaries best friend, but pure speed, and a little wiggle can/should beat that. Watch the play the S is running more north and south than east and west!
If Faddy had the “second gear” he was supposed to, he would have blown the doors off everyone on that play.
BO WOULD HAVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
August 14th, 2009 at 12:32 pm
ohhhhh …..Sandsycake sandsycake, bake me a sack, but we know you cant cause yer slow and fat!
August 14th, 2009 at 12:32 pm
“Mac needs to be in there so when Madden 10 updates the rosters they up his OVR rating”.are you serious.this is real football,not some stupid game.the less Mac and Bush play now the better.does anybody remember”Joe”.well Joe=Rankin,but as someone who has supported Fargas,it wouldn’t bother me if Rankin took his spot.
August 14th, 2009 at 12:33 pm
My observations and analysis from yesterdays game….
The passing game looks more crisp and confident then it did at this same time last year, thats for sure.
-Fargas should NOT be the goal line or red zone back.
Bush and DMC should be in there without doubt….heck I would rather have Rankin in there ahead of Fargas in goal line siutations.
-Speaking of Rankin…he needs to make this team! He can a valuable asset as a change of pace back to catch defenses off guard and he can be used on special teams.
-A strong and physical, high effort and hard working guy like Ryan Boschetti should be ahead of the big Turd on the depth chart, without a doubt… at least as of now. Boschetti should be considered the man backup behind Kelly, Warren, and Ellis. Did Turd even show up yesterday? He gets stood up way to much and just can’t disengage from his man fast enough…he also plays way to freakin high. His technique is terrible.
-The D-Line as a whole and unit gets stood up way to much and they need to stay low, and use their hands more and hand fight their way and disengages from their man. Run defense still needs to improve as of now.
- D Coordinator John Marshall needs to use more exotic run and pass blitz schemes and utilize more stunts to confuse the opposing teams O-Line. Still too much base man to man stuff going on for my liking on that D-Line
- The WR corp is loaded….Nick Miller shoud make the team, it looks like he has the potential to be a solid SLOT WR, who can come in catch opposing defenses off guard.
- I would like to see DHB get more opportunities on reverses, double moves and WR screens. We need to see more of JLH get more balls to catch next game.
-Lets see Trevor Scott have more of an impact in the next game
- Good to see Huff get that pic and use his speed to take away a potential TD.
-The defense needs to always be aware of reverses….they are used almost every game against them early, so they need to expect to see a reverse early in games and lets hope DC John Marshall becomes of aware of that a whole lot faster.
August 14th, 2009 at 12:34 pm
RAYOS-X,
I see you made it………
August 14th, 2009 at 12:34 pm
jhill Says:
August 14th, 2009 at 12:25 pm
Maybe JRuss getting rid of the ball faster made me think Green was doing more than he was …
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I had the same thought on the first couple of drives…there were a couple of close calls that if JR had held the ball a little bit longer, Green’s man would have had a chance, but the way JR got rid of the ball I couldn’t classify it as QB pressures.
August 14th, 2009 at 12:35 pm
JerryMac’sKidz2
(ID# 574390)
PW: NATION
Yahoo free league, its the second one we set up A few peeps didnt get in on the first one!!
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im registered cant wait never played before
August 14th, 2009 at 12:36 pm
whats up nation
August 14th, 2009 at 12:36 pm
OAKlifer Says:
August 14th, 2009 at 12:29 pm
Chris in NY Says:
August 14th, 2009 at 12:26 pm
Thanks OAKlifer.
Yeah, I’d consider joining another league with some RAIDUHZ fans. Do you have one already set up online somehwere?
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JerryMac’sKidz2
(ID# 574390)
PW: NATION
Yahoo free league, its the second one we set up A few peeps didnt get in on the first one!!
^^^^^^
If any of you need extra players for a fantasy league let me know….I might be interested….
August 14th, 2009 at 12:38 pm
DKnight007 Says:
August 14th, 2009 at 12:33 pm
My observations and analysis from yesterdays game….
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Solid post man!!!!!
I’m VERY excited about this season I believe we have all the talent we need well out side our D front four….but I think if we fail it is truely on Cable’s shoulders….he needs to play the right people and call one heck of a game come Sundays….Thurs…Mon…or when ever the F we strap it up!!!
August 14th, 2009 at 12:38 pm
Dirty Raccoon,
Bo may be the only RB in the history of the NFL that could have blown away that defender and scored on that play. McFadden is no Bo, no one ever said he was Bo. There will never be another Bo.
Thanks, now I am getting teary eyed!
We miss you Bo!
August 14th, 2009 at 12:38 pm
ill get in on a league
August 14th, 2009 at 12:40 pm
DKnight007 Says:
August 14th, 2009 at 12:36 pm
OAKlifer Says:
If any of you need extra players for a fantasy league let me know….I might be interested….
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DKknight007,
Brother we would love to have ya!!1 A few peeps didnt make it in the first one Like Bob Marley and a few other’s that above is the league info its a yahoo free league!!!!!
August 14th, 2009 at 12:41 pm
is it just me or our 1st team d-line was opening up huge holes AGAIN against dallas first team o-line against the run
August 14th, 2009 at 12:42 pm
and routt is still playing like he’s still a rookie
August 14th, 2009 at 12:42 pm
WE MISS YOU BO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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raidersince87 Says:
August 14th, 2009 at 12:38 pm
ill get in on a league
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Above is the league info brother…if you are serious and want to strip a title from Ryan…(I believe) he won last year then lets roll!!!!!
August 14th, 2009 at 12:43 pm
87,
It wasn’t just you bro…on that second Cowgirls drive the holes were so big even Fargas would have had big gains!
August 14th, 2009 at 12:43 pm
i wrote it down ill get in on it for sure, live draft?
August 14th, 2009 at 12:43 pm
Sandsycake sandsycake, bake me a sack, but we know you cant cause yer slow and fat!
Sandsycake sandsycake, ya need to anchor and stack, but when the plays over yer flat on yer back!
Sandsycake sandsycake, you should pressuer and attack, but all thats on yer mind is the next Big Mac
Sorry Oak, I had to.
August 14th, 2009 at 12:44 pm
lefty12 Says:
August 14th, 2009 at 12:32 pm
“Mac needs to be in there so when Madden 10 updates the rosters they up his OVR rating”.are you serious.this is real football,not some stupid game.the less Mac and Bush play now the better.does anybody remember”Joe”.well Joe=Rankin,but as someone who has supported Fargas,it wouldn’t bother me if Rankin took his spot.
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IM JUST SAYING IN WEEK ONE OF THE REG SEASON IF FARGAS IS STARTING AND NOT PRODUCING I WILL BE PISSED
I THINK ALOT OF PEOPLE WOULD AGREE WITH ME IN HERE.
August 14th, 2009 at 12:44 pm
Man, I gotta get some work done….see yall later!
August 14th, 2009 at 12:46 pm
Dakota Says:
August 14th, 2009 at 12:38 pm
Dirty Raccoon,
Bo may be the only RB in the history of the NFL that could have blown away that defender and scored on that play. McFadden is no Bo, no one ever said he was Bo. There will never be another Bo.
Thanks, now I am getting teary eyed!
We miss you Bo!
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My eyes are right with you Dakota.
August 14th, 2009 at 12:46 pm
our running games good, but if our d-line doesnt do a better job than last night and routt is our nickel corner, we are in trouble
August 14th, 2009 at 12:48 pm
raidersince87 Says:
August 14th, 2009 at 12:41 pm
is it just me or our 1st team d-line was opening up huge holes AGAIN against dallas first team o-line against the run
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That is NOT a good thig!
August 14th, 2009 at 12:48 pm
Dakota Says:
August 14th, 2009 at 12:38 pm
Dirty Raccoon,
Bo may be the only RB in the history of the NFL that could have blown away that defender and scored on that play. McFadden is no Bo, no one ever said he was Bo. There will never be another Bo.
Thanks, now I am getting teary eyed!
We miss you Bo!
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MCFADDEN IS DA ANSWER TO OUR 6 YEAR PROBLEMS. IF HES HEALTHY ALL SEASON! WATCH OUT NFL! HE WILL MAKE JR LOOK LIKE A HALL OF FAME QB WITH ALL THE DUMPS AND SCREEN PLAYS FOR BIG YARDAGE.
August 14th, 2009 at 12:48 pm
I don’t know about the UT NT argument, but I do know that a guy making a 6′5, 330lb guy making Warren’s $ should be able to beat a C one on one. But then again, how much is the C making? lol.
I think we have our base end, LDE in Ellis and Richards. It’s the right side that I’m concerned about. Shaugnessy looked good, but can he do it against the starters?
August 14th, 2009 at 12:49 pm
and if it wasnt for chaz we would of had no offense at all, all that yardage we got was against cowgirl backups when we still had our so called first team o-line in and they had already pulled everybody, last night was nothing to get excited about
August 14th, 2009 at 12:50 pm
OAKlifer Says:
August 14th, 2009 at 12:40 pm
DKnight007 Says:
August 14th, 2009 at 12:36 pm
OAKlifer Says:
If any of you need extra players for a fantasy league let me know….I might be interested….
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DKknight007,
Brother we would love to have ya!!1 A few peeps didnt make it in the first one Like Bob Marley and a few other’s that above is the league info its a yahoo free league!!!!!
^^^^^Whats the league info where I need to log in and get in?
August 14th, 2009 at 12:51 pm
our 1st string d-line got no pressure and opened up huge holes
August 14th, 2009 at 12:51 pm
http://www.faniq.com/article/Oakland-Raiders-express-interest-in-Free-Agent-Veteran-LB-Derrick-Brooks-1766954
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Is derrick brooks a good fit?
August 14th, 2009 at 12:52 pm
Like my man SnB said though, at least we can look forward to some good offense this year. So if we have a couple of brain farts on D, at least we can expect to score on offense.
August 14th, 2009 at 12:52 pm
raidersince87 Says:
August 14th, 2009 at 12:49 pm
and if it wasnt for chaz we would of had no offense at all, all that yardage we got was against cowgirl backups when we still had our so called first team o-line in and they had already pulled everybody, last night was nothing to get excited about
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I ENDORSE THAT COMMENT. THE COWBOYS SECONDARY WAS MOSTLY HURT THERE FOR THEY DID NOT PLAY
August 14th, 2009 at 12:52 pm
raidersince87 Says:
May 7th, 2009 at 2:44 pm
we are in here to discuss and speculate with good reasonable opinions, none of us are experts, lets try and keep it that way
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This was a great post brother!!! We too often for get this…..Not stalking you just checkin out whos in the FFL thats all…..
August 14th, 2009 at 12:53 pm
Dirty, I’m not buying the “not as fast as advertised” stuff. We have seen DMAC healthy in a game setting for less than 1 QTR of play since his turf toe. He looks EXTREMELY fast to me….
August 14th, 2009 at 12:53 pm
TRC-then say when the season starts they should get most of the carries.too many complain about who is getting the carries now.now doesn’t count.it doesn’t count until Sept. 14.and i don’t think just a lot but almost everyone would agree with you.
August 14th, 2009 at 12:54 pm
raidersince87 Says:
August 14th, 2009 at 12:51 pm
our 1st string d-line got no pressure and opened up huge holes
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IMHO THE COWBOYS OLINE ARE BIG AND POWERFUL. LOKKED REAL GOOD RUN BLOCKING.
ALOT OF BIG UGLIES
August 14th, 2009 at 12:55 pm
DKnight007 Says:
August 14th, 2009 at 12:50 pm
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^^^^^Whats the league info where I need to log in and get in?
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JerryMac’sKidz2
(ID# 574390)
PW: NATION
Yahoo free league, its the second one we set up A few peeps didnt get in on the first one!!
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August 14th, 2009 at 12:55 pm
OAKlifer Says:
August 14th, 2009 at 12:52 pm
raidersince87 Says:
May 7th, 2009 at 2:44 pm
we are in here to discuss and speculate with good reasonable opinions, none of us are experts, lets try and keep it that way
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This was a great post brother!!! We too often for get this…..Not stalking you just checkin out whos in the FFL thats all…..
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August 14th, 2009 at 12:57 pm
raidersince87 Says:
May 7th, 2009 at 2:44 pm
we are in here to discuss and speculate with good reasonable opinions, none of us are experts, lets try and keep it that way
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SOMETIMES I FEEL THAT MY PERSONAL OPINION IS WAY BETTER THAN THE BYEST EXPERTS AT BSPN.
LAUGHING AT DHB LIKE THAT BECAUSE HE WAS PICKED BY THE RAIDAS
August 14th, 2009 at 12:59 pm
raidersince87 Says:
August 14th, 2009 at 12:49 pm
and if it wasnt for chaz we would of had no offense at all, all that yardage we got was against cowgirl backups when we still had our so called first team o-line in and they had already pulled everybody, last night was nothing to get excited about
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Dang nothing to get excited about?? Hey watch where you point that thing brother, your missing the kool-aid bowl and your getting my pant leg wet!
After the last 6 preseasons you saw no improvement? We looked energized, alert, and focused out there. No doubt the team still has lots to work on, but dang, i was impressed as I was expecting LESS from them. And I’m the guy who makes the kool-aid!
9-7!
DRINK UP!
August 14th, 2009 at 12:59 pm
87-did you not see the 1st series Dallas had.there was good pressure.
August 14th, 2009 at 12:59 pm
AZ Raider Says:
August 14th, 2009 at 12:53 pm
Dirty, I’m not buying the “not as fast as advertised” stuff. We have seen DMAC healthy in a game setting for less than 1 QTR of play since his turf toe. He looks EXTREMELY fast to me….
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EVERY ONES FAST IN THE NFL! HES JUST HAS THAT GREAT BURST BUT I DO SEE THAT HIS SPEED TOPS OFF ONCE HE GETS FREE DOWN FIELD.
STILL LEAPS AND BOUNDS MORE DYNAMIC THAN FARGLASS.
August 14th, 2009 at 1:01 pm
raidersince87 Says:
August 14th, 2009 at 12:41 pm
is it just me or our 1st team d-line was opening up huge holes AGAIN against dallas first team o-line against the run
^^^^^Yep and it’s disturbing to say the least!
The freakin DT’s get stood up way to many times and they don’t work hard or hand fight enough to disengage and they don’t stay low enough and move their freakin legs. They need to move forward dammit and stop being lazy. Thats why I want Boschetti to start ahead of Warren.
Or if Warren starts, then I would like to see more of this lineup to help stuff the run. LDE Ellis, NT Warren, UT Boschetti, RDE Kelly. Then we can see Scott in on passing situations more often.
We need to see more run blitzes as well and more stunt movement from the front four.
Lets hope the DC Marshall gets these guys on the D to step it up against the run…..
August 14th, 2009 at 1:02 pm
YAHOOO LOVE FOR CHAZ AND JERRY!!!!!!!!!!
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But the Raiders have a clear No. 1 receiver entering 2009, and it’s not Higgins. It’s also not the dude who got the $55 million contract (since restructured), nor is it the guy they selected with the seventh overall pick in the draft. Chaz Schilens(notes) is the wide receiver you’ll want to own, if you allow yourself to sample the Raiders’ air attack at all.
In the preseason opener against Dallas on Thursday night, Schilens dominated the first series. He picked up 11 yards on Oakland’s first play from scrimmage, then drew a 47-yard pass interference penalty on safety Gerald Sensabaugh(notes) on third down. Schilens caught a short pass on the next play, moving the ball to the Dallas two … and then a typical Raiders series broke out. They committed a holding penalty, then lost two yards on a completion. But on third and goal from the 14, JaMarcus Russell(notes) found Schilens for a 10-yard gain, setting up a short field goal that gave Oakland a 3-0 lead.
Schilens finished with five receptions for 52 yards over three series and he caught everything that was thrown his way. (Video here via NFL.com). Sure, it was just five targets in a meaningless game against vanilla defense, but if you’re a Raiders fan, you have to seek out hope wherever you can. All things considered, it was an impressive effort from Schilens, a second-year pro. You’ll note that he closed out the ‘08 season with six catches for 98 yards and two TDs in the Raiders’ final two games.
Jerry McDonald of the Oakland Tribune has actually referred to Schilens as, “the reason the Raiders were able to pass on Michael Crabtree,” That may seem overly optimistic (perhaps irrationally so), but consider the fact that Schilens is bigger than Crabtree (6-4 vs. 6-2) and his pro-day performance was basically superhero-grade (43-inch vertical, 4.38 40-yard dash). No pre-draft WR cheat sheet is complete without him, despite his Raiderness.
~YAHOO.com
August 14th, 2009 at 1:02 pm
Dang nothing to get excited about?? Hey watch where you point that thing brother, your missing the kool-aid bowl and your getting my pant leg wet!
After the last 6 preseasons you saw no improvement? We looked energized, alert, and focused out there. No doubt the team still has lots to work on, but dang, i was impressed as I was expecting LESS from them. And I’m the guy who makes the kool-aid!
9-7!
DRINK UP!
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IM STILL VERY SCEPTIAL ABOUT THAT WINLOSS RECORD YOU HAVE POSTED.
MORE LIKE 7-9
J RUSS STILL LEARNING
August 14th, 2009 at 1:04 pm
raidersince87 Says:
August 14th, 2009 at 12:55 pm
OAKlifer Says:
August 14th, 2009 at 12:52 pm
raidersince87 Says:
May 7th, 2009 at 2:44 pm
we are in here to discuss and speculate with good reasonable opinions, none of us are experts, lets try and keep it that way
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This was a great post brother!!! We too often for get this…..Not stalking you just checkin out whos in the FFL thats all…..
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just read a few of your past post I’m on the Troll hunt we would hate to have a non competitive league ya dig??
But you Brother are more than welcome!!!!!
August 14th, 2009 at 1:05 pm
DKnight007 Says:
August 14th, 2009 at 1:01 pm
raidersince87 Says:
August 14th, 2009 at 12:41 pm
is it just me or our 1st team d-line was opening up huge holes AGAIN against dallas first team o-line against the run
^^^^^Yep and it’s disturbing to say the least!
The freakin DT’s get stood up way to many times and they don’t work hard or hand fight enough to disengage and they don’t stay low enough and move their freakin legs. They need to move forward dammit and stop being lazy. Thats why I want Boschetti to start ahead of Warren.
Or if Warren starts, then I would like to see more of this lineup to help stuff the run. LDE Ellis, NT Warren, UT Boschetti, RDE Kelly. Then we can see Scott in on passing situations more often.
We need to see more run blitzes as well and more stunt movement from the front four.
Lets hope the DC Marshall gets these guys on the D to step it up against the run…..
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DID YOU SEE ON THAT TD PASS TO WITTEN THEY ONLY RUSHED 3 AND DROPPED IN COVERAGE.
SCOTT HAS JUST A HALF SECOND LATE GETTING A SACK ON ROMO
SHOULD OF RUSHED 4
August 14th, 2009 at 1:07 pm
3 RING,
I’m slangin kool-aid in here brother. I’d be happy with 7-9 as an improvement, but I’m gonna serve up 9-7 because I believe it CAN happen.
9-7 BABY!
53 MEN, COUTLESS FANS, COMMITTED TO ONE PURPOSE!
DRINK UP!
August 14th, 2009 at 1:07 pm
I was just impressed with the fact that we held ‘em to three and out on the first series, with good pressure and they had to punt from deep in their own territory. On the second Dallas drive, however, it looked a lot like the same defense we all know and hate. Reserves played well; Kelly, Sands and Warren didn’t do much; Huff was a pleasant surprise; and Jason Horton just needs to keep his damn hands to himself! Hey, question: Do we actually have a guy on our team named Sammie Parker? I saw some guy out there wearing the #85 and scratching his a#$ … maybe that was him.
August 14th, 2009 at 1:08 pm
AZ Raider Says:
August 14th, 2009 at 12:53 pm
Dirty, I’m not buying the “not as fast as advertised” stuff. We have seen DMAC healthy in a game setting for less than 1 QTR of play since his turf toe. He looks EXTREMELY fast to me….
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Fast yes, but I guess I want “Bo” FAST!! Wishful thinkin
August 14th, 2009 at 1:09 pm
jhill Says:
August 14th, 2009 at 12:48 pm
I don’t know about the UT NT argument, but I do know that a guy making a 6′5, 330lb guy making Warren’s $ should be able to beat a C one on one. But then again, how much is the C making? lol.
I think we have our base end, LDE in Ellis and Richards. It’s the right side that I’m concerned about. Shaugnessy looked good, but can he do it against the starters?
^^^^^^Shaughnesey needs to show more explosion and aggresiveness before he gets a sniff at starting.
August 14th, 2009 at 1:10 pm
Fast yes, but I guess I want “Bo” FAST!! Wishful thinkin
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Again we will NEVER see another Bo we were blessed to see him strap it up hell iwas even a royals fan for a while and I hate baseball!!!!
BO KNOWS!!!!!!!!
August 14th, 2009 at 1:12 pm
It sure looks like there is a lot of young talent on the reserves squad. N Miller might make this team even though his size says he wont.
August 14th, 2009 at 1:13 pm
. N Miller might make this team even though his size says he wont.
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as long as he can run a sub 4.4 40 size dsnt matter…it the motion of the ocean or some crap like that!! LOL Al’s Speed Ocean
August 14th, 2009 at 1:14 pm
On a sad note, with the extremely poor play of Routt, Bowie, and all the other backups, is there ANY doubt we draft a CB next year?
August 14th, 2009 at 1:14 pm
Lynn from Snot ,
Are you interested in a FFL with some fellow bloggers?????
August 14th, 2009 at 1:17 pm
Going to a 3 man rush that close to the goal line was a silly call….
August 14th, 2009 at 1:17 pm
jhill Says:
August 14th, 2009 at 1:14 pm
On a sad note, with the extremely poor play of Routt, Bowie, and all the other backups, is there ANY doubt we draft a CB next year?
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Fastest one in round 2 or three watch….maybe even first…..with the 22 pick in the 2010 NFL draft the Oakland Raiders select ______________ DB ___________University!
August 14th, 2009 at 1:18 pm
jhill Says:
August 14th, 2009 at 1:14 pm
On a sad note, with the extremely poor play of Routt, Bowie, and all the other backups, is there ANY doubt we draft a CB next year?
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DAMN YOU JHILL DON’T BUMB ME OUT ABOUT THE 2010 DRAFT ALREADY!!!!!! lol
August 14th, 2009 at 1:19 pm
DNight,
Shaugnessy not getting tossed around like a rag doll, or pancaded by a TE give him the nod over Scott to me.
August 14th, 2009 at 1:19 pm
22nd…………..LOL……….not by trade either…….NOW THATS SOME KOOL-AID
August 14th, 2009 at 1:20 pm
22nd pick? lol…more like the 9th pick…this D-line still has us as top 10 draft material fellas, hate to say it…
Best guess: 6-11 (to be revised after the next preseason game)
August 14th, 2009 at 1:20 pm
DKnight007 Says:
August 14th, 2009 at 1:17 pm
Going to a 3 man rush that close to the goal line was a silly call….
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Only b/c Routt couldn’t cover the TE. 1 more second, and it’s a sack.
August 14th, 2009 at 1:21 pm
# jhill Says:
August 14th, 2009 at 1:14 pm
On a sad note, with the extremely poor play of Routt, Bowie, and all the other backups, is there ANY doubt we draft a CB next year?
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Maybe M. Mitchell has a cousin who plays CB for San Worthless State University!
August 14th, 2009 at 1:22 pm
NEW OPINION ON AL DAVIS’ DRAFT STRATAGY:
I was just waiting for the game to start last night and started thinking about Al’s top 10 picks over HIS career as our owner/GM and kinda thought maybe Al doesn’t do things so bad.
IMO every top 10 pick is a gamble. Maybe Al looks at it as such and thinks a BIG gamble is as good as any taken in the top 10 spots. Everyone bashes his ability to find talent but he does it year after year in later rounds for bargain prices. Just because our big money top 10 guys don’t ALWAYS pan out, I think it’s just AL thinking smart. Might as well bet BIG if your gonna bet at all IMO.
Cheers to Al, I like the roster!
Bash away guys, just thought he deserved a little “atta boy”.
9-7!
IT’S ALOT OF KOOL-AID BUT…
DRINK UP!
August 14th, 2009 at 1:23 pm
Sorry about that Dakota, but we know our Raiders, don’t we?
I don’t think it will be first round though since we have CJ and Nnamdi locked in as starters. 2nd rd? FOR SURE!, and NO WAY we don’t take one by the 3rd.
I think we will finally go Dline in the first round. Or RT if this Barnes situation doesn’t play itself out.
August 14th, 2009 at 1:25 pm
Bo did run a 4.12 40
I guess Faddy and his 4.25 is a step slow comparadly.
August 14th, 2009 at 1:26 pm
AZ Raider Says:
August 14th, 2009 at 1:22 pm
NEW OPINION ON AL DAVIS’ DRAFT STRATAGY:
I was just waiting for the game to start last night and started thinking about Al’s top 10 picks over HIS career as our owner/GM and kinda thought maybe Al doesn’t do things so bad.
IMO every top 10 pick is a gamble. Maybe Al looks at it as such and thinks a BIG gamble is as good as any taken in the top 10 spots. Everyone bashes his ability to find talent but he does it year after year in later rounds for bargain prices. Just because our big money top 10 guys don’t ALWAYS pan out, I think it’s just AL thinking smart. Might as well bet BIG if your gonna bet at all IMO.
Cheers to Al, I like the roster!
Bash away guys, just thought he deserved a little “atta boy”.
9-7!
IT’S ALOT OF KOOL-AID BUT…
DRINK UP!
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Atta boy!
August 14th, 2009 at 1:26 pm
raidertbone Says:
August 14th, 2009 at 1:21 pm
# jhill Says:
August 14th, 2009 at 1:14 pm
On a sad note, with the extremely poor play of Routt, Bowie, and all the other backups, is there ANY doubt we draft a CB next year?
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Maybe M. Mitchell has a cousin who plays CB for San Worthless State University!
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Mays in the first.
August 14th, 2009 at 1:27 pm
All in all, at least the team will be watchable this year, but we sure as heck still have room to improve. If Trevor Scott, Morrison, Eugene, and Fargas get significant playing time, 8-8 is a stretch.
Let’s hope and pray that Shaugnessy wins the RDE spot, Brown beats out Morrison, and Huff beats out Eugene.
August 14th, 2009 at 1:27 pm
OAKlifer Says:
August 14th, 2009 at 1:17 pm
jhill Says:
August 14th, 2009 at 1:14 pm
On a sad note, with the extremely poor play of Routt, Bowie, and all the other backups, is there ANY doubt we draft a CB next year?
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Fastest one in round 2 or three watch….maybe even first…..with the 22 pick in the 2010 NFL draft the Oakland Raiders select ______________ DB ___________University!
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I REALLY THINK TYVON BRANCH WILL EVENTUALLY MAKE THE SWITCH TO CORNER BACK!!!!!!!!!
HE IS FAST AND VERY PHYSICAL. PERFECT FIT NEXT TO NHAMDI
August 14th, 2009 at 1:29 pm
I can’t see us taking a S in the first rd, and I can’t see us drafting high enough to get Mays if we wanted him. Mays will be a top 5 pick.
August 14th, 2009 at 1:29 pm
Raccoon:
Mays in the first round … us? Are you kidding me?! He’s way too good a player for us to draft that high. Maybe Fabian Washington can somehow re-enter the draft and we can pick him AGAIN!
August 14th, 2009 at 1:31 pm
raidertbone Says:
August 14th, 2009 at 1:29 pm
Raccoon:
Mays in the first round … us? Are you kidding me?! He’s way too good a player for us to draft that high. Maybe Fabian Washington can somehow re-enter the draft and we can pick him AGAIN!
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Mays will be gone by the time we pick. We could trade up from our 20th spot
???
August 14th, 2009 at 1:32 pm
That might make some sense 3 ring …
A few things would have to fall in place though, like Huff claiming the FS spot, and Mitchell developing into that SS we all are looking for. That would let us move CJ to the 3rd spot.
I’ll keep an eye out for that. Good thought!
August 14th, 2009 at 1:32 pm
jhill Says:
August 14th, 2009 at 1:27 pm
All in all, at least the team will be watchable this year, but we sure as heck still have room to improve. If Trevor Scott, Morrison, Eugene, and Fargas get significant playing time, 8-8 is a stretch.
Let’s hope and pray that Shaugnessy wins the RDE spot, Brown beats out Morrison, and Huff beats out Eugene
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HOW MANY FAST SKILL POSITION PLAYERS DOES AL WANT BEFORE HE STARS ADRESSING THE LINES
August 14th, 2009 at 1:32 pm
If we picked 20th, I could live with that.
August 14th, 2009 at 1:33 pm
Three Ring:
But Tommy Kelly moves fast … all the way to the bank!
August 14th, 2009 at 1:34 pm
MY BEST BET IS TYVON BRANCH SWITCHING TO CORNER BACK JUST LIKE NHAMDI DID!
VERY FAST AND PHYSICAL
COULD PROBABLY BE PLAY GOOD PRESS MAN COVERAGE AND HAVE THE SPEED TO RECOVER IF HE GETS BEAT DEEP.
August 14th, 2009 at 1:35 pm
I’ve said this many times Tommy Kelly is 6′6″ Sands is 6′-7″.They are WAY 2 TALL 2B Dt’s.One of the main reasons they get stood-up is because they are waaaay taller than the O-linemen they face.They are geometrically incorrect 4 their position.We need. 6-2 or 6-3 guys,imo.How in the hell do you get a 6-7 DT to submarine in and BUST up a play???Geometriclly impossible.Cut em off at the knees or something =)
August 14th, 2009 at 1:35 pm
Lefty,
I am sold on the offense this year. I can’t wait to see the offense move this year and watch the QB and his receivers develop. I love the running game potential.
The Defense? I am not sold on it yet. Guess I am in a “show me first” kind of mood for the defense. I said I hope that Marshall watches the tape because the 1st team I saw last night looked exactly like the Rob Ryan version.
Hopefully they get things in check on defense.
Offense – Two thumbs up
Defense – Shrug
August 14th, 2009 at 1:37 pm
raidertbone Says:
August 14th, 2009 at 1:33 pm
Three Ring:
But Tommy Kelly moves fast … all the way to the bank!
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YEAH AL PAID HIM ALOT OF MONEY! NOW WE HAVE TO SETTLE FOR MEDIOCRITY AT THAT POSITION UNTIL WE ARE ABLE TO CUT ONE OF THESE BUMS WITHOUT ANY SALARY CAP PENALTIES. THEN WE FINNALLY PICK UP SOME PHENOM DT LIKE D RUSSELL WAS WITHOUT THE OFF THE FIELD BAGAGE!!!!!!!1
August 14th, 2009 at 1:39 pm
jhill Says:
August 14th, 2009 at 1:29 pm
I can’t see us taking a S in the first rd, and I can’t see us drafting high enough to get Mays if we wanted him. Mays will be a top 5 pick
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JHill,
I have a hard time believing the Raiders ever taking a lineman in the 1st two rounds. While its early to talk draft….I think if the Raiders are drafting in the early to late teens..that they get the best athlete available. Most likely will be a linebacker next year. Won’t be a D-Lineman….That is not a place of emphasis and never will be.
August 14th, 2009 at 1:39 pm
wonder what happened to all the trolls, malcontents, decenters, multiple personalaties, and the like????
August 14th, 2009 at 1:40 pm
HOW MANY FAST SKILL POSITION PLAYERS DOES AL WANT BEFORE HE STARS ADRESSING THE LINES
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3 RING,
I’d say we are done there. Next year the lines start getting the attention they deserve.
Skill positions in the last 3 drafts:
QB
RB
WR
We are set up in that area. Nnamdi and Chris are gonna shut people down this season I hope. chris looked the part. If Huff steps it up I think our secondary is solid.
Look for Al to take a beast DT in the 1st. and a RT in the 2nd. Later rounds for more LB’s as I see a 3-4 in our future. Maybe it’s a beast NT in the first?????
That’s what I’d like to happen anyway…
August 14th, 2009 at 1:40 pm
I guess it was just wishful thinking when Gallery was drafted I thought to myself…You nkow mayb they will build from the lines out like a lot of normal teams do. I was wrong and I really wish a couple higher picks were used on some D line, its embarassing sometimes
August 14th, 2009 at 1:41 pm
4evaRaider Says:
August 14th, 2009 at 1:35 pm
I’ve said this many times Tommy Kelly is 6′6″ Sands is 6′-7″.They are WAY 2 TALL 2B Dt’s.One of the main reasons they get stood-up is because they are waaaay taller than the O-linemen they face.They are geometrically incorrect 4 their position.We need. 6-2 or 6-3 guys,imo.How in the hell do you get a 6-7 DT to submarine in and BUST up a play???Geometriclly impossible.Cut em off at the knees or something =)
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YEAH AND THAT 6 1 DT THAT WAS AVAILABLE IN THE DRAFT WAS BJ RAJI
HE WOULD BEEN ABLE TO ANCHOR OUR D FOR A LONG TIME AND WOULD BE ABLE TO GET LOW ON OPPOSING OFFENDERS JUST LIKE WILLIAMS OF THE CHARGERS
August 14th, 2009 at 1:41 pm
I asked the question yesterday will ask today. Are we good enough to put up 25-30 pts a game? If we better make sure our pass D is up to par. Teams run when they have leads, they may not have that luxury this year….
August 14th, 2009 at 1:44 pm
We are set up in that area. Nnamdi and Chris are gonna shut people down this season I hope. chris looked the part. If Huff steps it up I think our secondary is solid.
Look for Al to take a beast DT in the 1st. and a RT in the 2nd. Later rounds for more LB’s as I see a 3-4 in our future. Maybe it’s a beast NT in the first?????
That’s what I’d like to happen anyway…
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THAT BEAST DT BETTER BE ABLE TO RUN A SUB 4.4 40 TIME BUT I DONT SEE THAT HAPPENING
AL DAVIS IS A HEIGHT WEIGHT SPEED GUY
BUT HE SEEMS NOT TO CARE ABOUT THE DLINE AT ALL
August 14th, 2009 at 1:45 pm
Thec07 Says:
August 14th, 2009 at 1:41 pm
I asked the question yesterday will ask today. Are we good enough to put up 25-30 pts a game? If we better make sure our pass D is up to par. Teams run when they have leads, they may not have that luxury this year….
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WE PUT UP THAT MANY POINTS IN THE LAST 3 GAMES
2 FOR WIN AND 1 FOR LOSS
August 14th, 2009 at 1:46 pm
It may be too early to talk draft, but it’s not too early to start talking about areas of the team that need to be upgraded. Early returns on priority upgrades are as follows, IMO:
#1) RDE – Trevor Scott is TOO SMALL to play 3 downs. He looked like Rudy out there. FOR REAL!
#2) MLB – Kirk is not the answer
#3) DT – Warren and Joseph would be killer backups. Kelly commands and hold enough double teams for me.
#4) Hiram Eugene – Did NOTHING, and wasn’t even close to doing anything!
August 14th, 2009 at 1:46 pm
Thec,
If Chaz stays healthy, DMAC and Bush stay healthy, and Heyward-Bey REALLY starts to gel, hell ya we can put up #’s like that. If there is one part of our D I trust it’s our secondary.
August 14th, 2009 at 1:47 pm
Afternoon Thec,
YES WE CAN!!!!!!!!!31-10!!!!!
Hey bro I forgot if we asked you you down for FFL ????
August 14th, 2009 at 1:47 pm
Thec07 Says:
August 14th, 2009 at 9:50 am
Patients on Suicide watch:
Walker
garcia
fargas
Carlisle
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Patients put in a Padded cell
JLH
New full time NATION players
Nick Miller
Louis Rankin
August 14th, 2009 at 1:47 pm
or Terrence Taylor from Michigan.Oh well it is what it is
August 14th, 2009 at 1:48 pm
didn’t most want CJ gone last pre season and the year before?making assessments after 1 practice game is wrong and stupid!
August 14th, 2009 at 1:49 pm
Oak, Hey Brother….. I would but business will keep me awy from focusing on it. I loved the one the guys here setup last year. The draft is very exciting if you guys do it live. Makes you feel like as mini GM,
you sweat bullets and all that….
August 14th, 2009 at 1:49 pm
Jhill-yeas it is too early.
August 14th, 2009 at 1:50 pm
yes it is
August 14th, 2009 at 1:50 pm
Im on the fence about scoring that many points. Yes DMAC is a big play maker, yes Bush is gonna get more touches this year. The question still remains HOW good our passing game is going to be.
Sure we have more weapons, and for the game last night yes our WR core looked good, but weren’t a few starters on the cowboys secondary hurt?
Im hoping he does, but Russel hasn’t proved anything yet this year in a real game because we havn’t had one yet, if and its a BIG IF he is able to be accurate and more importantly make GOOD decisions they will be able to throw the ball, but I don’t know yet
August 14th, 2009 at 1:51 pm
Height, weight and speed factor into drafting a DT too 3 ring. We’ll draft the strongest and fastest one availible. Maybe not the highest “rated” like I said earlier it seems Al likes to GAMBLE BIG with his top picks, but he’ll have the best measuables in his position class fasho!
August 14th, 2009 at 1:52 pm
YEAH THE COWBOYS LACK OF DEPTH WILL BE THEIR DOWNFALL. AND ITS A LONG REGULAR SEASON SO EXPECT INJURIES TO PLAGUE EVERY TEAM IN THE NFL. BETTER HOPE THE STARTERS STAY HEALTHY BECAUSE THEIR SEEMS TO BE A SIGNIFICANT DROP OFF IN TALENT AFTER THE FIRST STRING. THE RAIDERS LOOK LIKE THEY HAVE SOME DEPTH AT CERTAIN POSTIONS. SOMETHING I HAVE NOT SEEN FOR A WHILE NOW. MAYBE THEY TURN IT AROUND THIS YEAR WHO KNOWS!!!! GO RAIDAS
1 minute from now
August 14th, 2009 at 1:52 pm
So we score 25-30 per game, will the opposing offense be able to match that with relying on the run? Keep in mind they will have to match us score for score, while eating up the clock on themselves……
Our offense is/will be geared up for putting TD’s not field goals on the board. Thus forcing teams to thow.
now if our stregth is our Secondary teams have to play into our streghts…
John Runyan……..
August 14th, 2009 at 1:53 pm
Thec07 Says:
August 14th, 2009 at 1:39 pm
wonder what happened to all the trolls, malcontents, decenters, multiple personalaties, and the like????
^^^^^^^Hopefully in the looney bin! LOL
August 14th, 2009 at 1:54 pm
DKnight007 Says:
August 14th, 2009 at 1:53 pm
Thec07 Says:
August 14th, 2009 at 1:39 pm
wonder what happened to all the trolls, malcontents, decenters, multiple personalaties, and the like????
^^^^^^^Hopefully in the looney bin! LOL
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ROFLMAO, you need to be careful Bro, i allmost lost my coffee…..
August 14th, 2009 at 1:55 pm
who in here thinks we are going to score 30 a game? are 1st srting got 3 points last night a gainst mostley a back-up secondary, the rest of the scoring was back-ups against back-ups
August 14th, 2009 at 1:56 pm
What’s up Nation?
Thec,
We Know!!!! Chaz is a Beast!! A 7th RD Beast!!
Go AZTECS!!!
August 14th, 2009 at 1:56 pm
With this offense i say 24-27 per.
August 14th, 2009 at 1:57 pm
LATER NATION!!!!!!
One down 19 more to go……
Come Rise With Us!!!!!
Till next AM well monday that is…If any one see’s Marley please give him this info!!!!! (thnx 4eva)!!!
JerryMac’sKidz2
(ID# 574390)
PW: NATION
RAIDER ON!!!!!!!!!!!!1
August 14th, 2009 at 1:57 pm
Headbutt,
Wasn’t Gallery out? DHB’s first game? Walker hasn’t shown us his new knee yet? Chaz is only in his second year. Dallas was a little banged up, but we are talking about the team that is sooooooooo stacked all across the board, everyone would expect Dallas’ 3rd unit to dominate our 1st unit! 25-30 a game will be seen on a regular basis…
…I hope anyway.
I’m just excited to see progress from last year instead of taking a few steps back as we have done in recent off-seasons.
August 14th, 2009 at 1:58 pm
raidersince87 Says:
August 14th, 2009 at 1:55 pm
who in here thinks we are going to score 30 a game? are 1st srting got 3 points last night a gainst mostley a back-up secondary, the rest of the scoring was back-ups against back-ups
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Exactly what I was saying! until we prove we can throw the ball on a good secondary we aren’t gonna score 30 a game.
August 14th, 2009 at 1:58 pm
O, what up Bretheren??????????
Chaz is the TRUTH.
Actually all the WR’s Looked Good.
August 14th, 2009 at 1:58 pm
Oaklifer, take care Bro….
August 14th, 2009 at 1:59 pm
Raider O Says:
August 14th, 2009 at 1:56 pm
88*********************************
LAter Bro Sorry I missed ya!!!!!!
GOOOOOOOO AZTECS!!!!!!!!!!
GOOOOOOOO RAIDUHHHSS!!!!!
GOOOOOOOO BLAZERS!!!!!!!!!
LOL Raider On brother!!!!!!
August 14th, 2009 at 2:00 pm
and if our d-line keeps opening holes like they did the first 2 cowgirl series, we are not going to be on the feild long enough to score 24-30 a game
August 14th, 2009 at 2:00 pm
Thec07 Says:
August 14th, 2009 at 9:50 am
Patients on Suicide watch:
Walker
garcia
fargas
Carlisle
………
Patients put in a Padded cell
JLH
New full time NATION players
Nick Miller
Louis Rankin
John Runyan
August 14th, 2009 at 2:00 pm
Thec,
“Oak, Hey Brother….. I would but business will keep me awy from focusing on it. I loved the one the guys here setup last year.”
I feel ya bro And I remember you saying that yesterday…LOL My memoeries about as short as RaiderRons peenis……SHORT!!!!
Peace bro!!
August 14th, 2009 at 2:01 pm
Im not saying we are or arent gonna score those kinda points. Im just saying its kinda early to have a gameplan that involves us scoring 30 pts a game and beating teams with a so far unproven receiving game
August 14th, 2009 at 2:01 pm
OAKlifer Says:
August 14th, 2009 at 2:00 pm
Thec,
“Oak, Hey Brother….. I would but business will keep me awy from focusing on it. I loved the one the guys here setup last year.”
I feel ya bro And I remember you saying that yesterday…LOL My memoeries about as short as RaiderRons peenis……SHORT!!!!
Peace bro!!
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Thats evil Bro but funny as hell rofl, be good man…
August 14th, 2009 at 2:02 pm
Thec07 Says:
August 14th, 2009 at 1:54 pm
DKnight007 Says:
August 14th, 2009 at 1:53 pm
Thec07 Says:
August 14th, 2009 at 1:39 pm
wonder what happened to all the trolls, malcontents, decenters, multiple personalaties, and the like????
^^^^^^^Hopefully in the looney bin! LOL
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ROFLMAO, you need to be careful Bro, i allmost lost my coffee…..
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OAKlifer Says:
August 14th, 2009 at 1:59 pm
Raider O Says:
August 14th, 2009 at 1:56 pm
88*********************************
LAter Bro Sorry I missed ya!!!!!!
GOOOOOOOO AZTECS!!!!!!!!!!
GOOOOOOOO RAIDUHHHSS!!!!!
GOOOOOOOO BLAZERS!!!!!!!!!
LOL Raider On brother!!!!!!
August 14th, 2009 at 2:03 pm
Players who I thought played great:
- DMC
- Chaz
- Huff
- R Brown
- Rankin
Players who played well:
- All 3 QBs
- Bush
- S Norris
- Boyd
- Eugene
- N Miller
- Matt S
Players who need to improve:
-all DTs
- T Scott against the run
- Oline
Players that need to be cut:
- Sands
Players who need to be traded
- Walker
- AFLAC AKA Fargas.
August 14th, 2009 at 2:03 pm
Have fun!!! OAKlifer!!!
August 14th, 2009 at 2:03 pm
raidersince87 Says:
August 14th, 2009 at 2:00 pm
and if our d-line keeps opening holes like they did the first 2 cowgirl series, we are not going to be on the feild long enough to score 24-30 a game
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yeah we are cause the defense will alow the them to run up the field so fast not much time will be taken off the clock
August 14th, 2009 at 2:04 pm
Good List O, add cooper carlisle, and jeff garcia to traded or cut.
August 14th, 2009 at 2:05 pm
Later OAK!!
We have an Offense!!!!
9-7 baby!!!!
We still need to improve our Run D and Oline!
August 14th, 2009 at 2:06 pm
I still can’t beleive you guys want to cut garcia. If he is healthy he is a starting calibre QB if Russel sh!ts the bed or gets hurt.
August 14th, 2009 at 2:06 pm
what i got from the game last night the good= chaz and jamarcus looked good, our running game is going to be solid, the bad= we have no saftey talent and if anybody thinks mitchell and branch are the answer are crazy, past chris and nnamdi we have no talent, our d-line is still terrible, no pressure on the qb and pushed around against the run way too much, and are OT’s are still horrible
August 14th, 2009 at 2:07 pm
are back-up looked good though
August 14th, 2009 at 2:08 pm
all these players we want cut and who is going to replace them?
is there any one better right now in the free agent wire?
if so please let me know!
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WE EITHER WIN WITH WHAT WE GOT OR WE DONT THATS THE PRODUCT AL DAVIS HAS PURCHASED AND WE WILL SEE IF THIS PRODUCT HE ACQUIRED IS ABLE TO PUT W’S ON THE STAT SHEET.
August 14th, 2009 at 2:09 pm
Raider Headbutt Says:
August 14th, 2009 at 2:06 pm
I still can’t beleive you guys want to cut garcia. If he is healthy he is a starting calibre QB if Russel sh!ts the bed or gets hurt.
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Thats good Bro lol…..
August 14th, 2009 at 2:09 pm
OAK,
I’m going to be a Blazers Fan, have fun with you, and talk crap to Lakers fan after we destroy them!
Destroy the Lakers!!! Go Blazers!!!
lol
August 14th, 2009 at 2:10 pm
Our back ups looked good against other back ups. Garcia has proven he can play high calibre football on numerous teams. Why cut him if he can play?
August 14th, 2009 at 2:11 pm
we also need to establish a bonafide No.2 wr, cuz chaz is the next marquise colston!
August 14th, 2009 at 2:11 pm
THREE RING CIRCUS Says:
August 14th, 2009 at 2:08 pm
all these players we want cut and who is going to replace them?
is there any one better right now in the free agent wire?
if so please let me know!
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WE EITHER WIN WITH WHAT WE GOT OR WE DONT THATS THE PRODUCT AL DAVIS HAS PURCHASED AND WE WILL SEE IF THIS PRODUCT HE ACQUIRED IS ABLE TO PUT W’S ON THE STAT SHEET.
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John Runyan > carlisle
August 14th, 2009 at 2:12 pm
Raider Headbutt Says:
August 14th, 2009 at 2:10 pm
Our back ups looked good against other back ups. Garcia has proven he can play high calibre football on numerous teams. Why cut him if he can play?
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1. He is injuried.
2. We dont need him.
August 14th, 2009 at 2:13 pm
Thec,
I could care less about Garcia, but I’ll the Cooper preseason to prove he belongs. If he can do it, then we should find another player to play RG.
We just gave Cooper a new contract.
August 14th, 2009 at 2:13 pm
Thec07 Says:
August 14th, 2009 at 1:39 pm
wonder what happened to all the trolls, malcontents, decenters, multiple personalaties, and the like????
_________________________
I am working, give me a break!
August 14th, 2009 at 2:14 pm
raidersince87 Says:
August 14th, 2009 at 2:11 pm
we also need to establish a bonafide No.2 wr, cuz chaz is the next marquise colston!
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Bro, could you clarify?????
August 14th, 2009 at 2:14 pm
Dakota <————Pranksters r us…….
August 14th, 2009 at 2:15 pm
Thec07 Says:
August 14th, 2009 at 2:14 pm
raidersince87 Says:
August 14th, 2009 at 2:11 pm
we also need to establish a bonafide No.2 wr, cuz chaz is the next marquise colston!
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Bro, could you clarify?????
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clarify what?
August 14th, 2009 at 2:16 pm
*I’ll give Cooper….
August 14th, 2009 at 2:18 pm
Hey Nation, where are all the Raider bashers today?
cricket……cricket……cricket…….
Hello……ello….ello……….ello…????
August 14th, 2009 at 2:18 pm
Hence why I originally said if he isn’t hurt for awhile. Phili didn’t need him either until Chunky stew guy went down.
August 14th, 2009 at 2:18 pm
Chaz can run and played WR at college.
Colston played TE at college, and he is SLOW!!!
August 14th, 2009 at 2:19 pm
raidersince87 Says:
August 14th, 2009 at 2:15 pm
cuz chaz is the next marquise colston!
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Not sure what you mean about Chaz. Colston was good, but was hurt and wasnt in impact….
August 14th, 2009 at 2:20 pm
the comparison was both wre drafted low but became No.1s, and when healthy colston is a very good wr
August 14th, 2009 at 2:21 pm
raidersince87 Says:
August 14th, 2009 at 2:20 pm
the comparison was both wre drafted low but became No.1s, and when healthy colston is a very good wr
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Thanks for the clarification Bro….
August 14th, 2009 at 2:21 pm
Chaz is nothing like Colston…. More like a taller, faster Anquan Boldin??? Yeah, that sounds better
August 14th, 2009 at 2:22 pm
Mario got away with a lot yesterday. I worry about Mario!
Also Gallery wasn’t there, but the Oline didn’t look good. IMO
We need Barnes to play RT, and Mario to play better at LT.
August 14th, 2009 at 2:22 pm
Damn! Brandon Marshall found not guilty! Bummer. FUK YOU DENVER!!!!
August 14th, 2009 at 2:22 pm
Az, I asked the same question. I bet they are pissed we let them down and actually looked like we belong in the NFL….
So pour mr u a tall glass of that kool-aid i just had a sandwich so i am very thirsty……
August 14th, 2009 at 2:24 pm
I kind of feel bad for Jason Horton. Dude gets called for a phantom pass interference, then a hands to the face I’m not sure about because there was no replay, then another phantom PI call in which the ball was thrown a good 10+ yards out of bounds and was completely uncatchable.
Oh well. I guess if he wants to play for the Raiders he better get used to those kinds of calls.
August 14th, 2009 at 2:24 pm
AZ,
NO!! NO!!!
Boldin is 6′1.
He is more like Larry Fitz, but Chaz is Faster!!!!
That’s much better!!!! lol
9-7!!! Drink it!!!
August 14th, 2009 at 2:27 pm
O, don’t worry about our gental giant. He’ll be all pro before he’s done sporting Silver and Black.
August 14th, 2009 at 2:27 pm
What is wrong with giving John Runyan a call???????
August 14th, 2009 at 2:27 pm
Haha, I like it O LOL…
August 14th, 2009 at 2:28 pm
Chris,
LOL
One pass was uncatchable, but there still was a PI call.
That stuff doesn’t happen often with the Raiders.
August 14th, 2009 at 2:29 pm
From Cam Inman:
“Russell will command the majority of attention this season by virtue of (a) his position, (b) his No. 1 overall draft status and (c) his weight.
Russell looked enormous in his unflattering uniform. He must be pushing close to 300 pounds, and he admitted at the start of training camp that he is a “little heavy.” Thursday, he had a Santa Claus torso with thighs that resembled a defensive tackle’s.”
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WTF? Is that even true? Didn’t show up on TV at all. Anyone who was at the game notice it? I thought Russell looked like he was in probably his best shape since joining the Raiders.
August 14th, 2009 at 2:30 pm
I gotta go, you guys hold down it down….
The only nation that is truly a nation…….
RAIDER NATION.
August 14th, 2009 at 2:31 pm
BTW,
Count on BSPN and other hacks to take Inman’s comments and run wild with them. Guaranteed. For some reason they just hate JaMarcus. Oh well. We’ll see who’s laughing when the Raiders take the division.
August 14th, 2009 at 2:32 pm
yeah, a couple of those PI calls were phantom, but the refs are in pre-season mode too
August 14th, 2009 at 2:32 pm
AZ,
Dude, why are you laughing?
Fitz is 6′3 225, and Chaz is 6′4 225!!
Chaz is Faster!!! Go Aztecs!!!!!
August 14th, 2009 at 2:35 pm
Chris, I gotta agree with Cam on that one…Russell looked bad physically last night, the only time I thought he looked more fat was in his rookie debut against the Broncos…he looked better last year…not much of a concern for 2009, but unless he gets that under control it is only going to get worse…and he won’t be in the NFL in 4 or 5 years if he keeps it up.
Cable even said it was a concern…they are “working” on it…nutrisystem please!!!
August 14th, 2009 at 2:36 pm
Later Thec, enjoy a nice day in Heaven AKA as San Diego. lol
I didn’t like the PI call on Huff.
August 14th, 2009 at 2:38 pm
chaz is our No.1, period, no discussion, what we need to worry about is who is going to step up on the other side
August 14th, 2009 at 2:41 pm
Any chance of dealing Garcia + Fargas for a decent d-lineman?
August 14th, 2009 at 2:41 pm
“AKA as San Diego”
WOW
I cannut espeake engleaze!! lol
August 14th, 2009 at 2:44 pm
they are “working” on it…nutrisystem please!!!
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Scheduling the lap-band procedure for the bye week.
August 14th, 2009 at 2:45 pm
I told people we should trade Burgess and Walter for V Wilfork.
Some here think that Board and Marshall can teach our DTs to play better, but I still think we need better DTs!
August 14th, 2009 at 2:46 pm
Did any one see Atkinson interview Cable at the end of the game?
Cable is going to give Jack Del Rio a run for the money, for biggest sandbags under the eyes.
Get some sleep Coach.
Our 1st. team Defense scares the h3ll out of me.
Chaz? sshhhhhhhh be vwey quiet.
August 14th, 2009 at 2:47 pm
I’m wondering the same thing. I have my doubts. Teams tend to hang on to good D Linemen when they find them. The Giants have some extras, but we don’t have anything they want.
I’m really worried about our interior D Linemen.
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Chris in NY Says:
August 14th, 2009 at 2:41 pm
Any chance of dealing Garcia + Fargas for a decent d-lineman?
August 14th, 2009 at 2:48 pm
Chris why do you want to deal Fargas? All the experts in here…u know them the “know it alls” who think they own this place say Fargas is GREAT! One nitwit said Fargas is in the top 30% of all RB’s.
I can see Id rather have DMAC, BUSH, and Rankin but why do you want to deal our stellar RB with 6/7 career TD’s ?
August 14th, 2009 at 2:49 pm
*&-did you see the whole game-especially the first cowgirl series.1st play the whole dline was in the qbs face and Ellis batted down the pass.play 2 we stuffed the run.on 3dr and long we put so much pressure that the QB essentially threw ball away.they didn’t run it on “their 1st 2 series’.and we did pressure the QB on 2 of 3 plays.opinions are fine,false facts aren’t.
August 14th, 2009 at 2:50 pm
Who in their right mind would trade for a 39 yr old QB with a alleged injury and a RB with no hands and 6/7 career TD’s ?
Not only do you want to trade both of these players whom have no value but you think there is a GM out there stupid enough take not ONE but both of these guys?
lmao
August 14th, 2009 at 2:50 pm
From I’ve watched yesterday and today, I noticed that our DTs can penetrate, but can’t hold the point. Scott will learn to play better against the run, he is our Pass Rusher, and Matt S looked good aginst the run, so he can play base end with Ellis.
We need a DT and OT in next year’s draft.
Top 3 picks!!
August 14th, 2009 at 2:51 pm
Minnesota?
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Mistabrown Says:
August 14th, 2009 at 2:50 pm
Who in their right mind would trade for a 39 yr old QB with a alleged injury and a RB with no hands and 6/7 career TD’s ?
August 14th, 2009 at 2:52 pm
lefty12 Says:
August 14th, 2009 at 2:49 pm
*&-did you see the whole game-especially the first cowgirl series.1st play the whole dline was in the qbs face and Ellis batted down the pass.play 2 we stuffed the run.on 3dr and long we put so much pressure that the QB essentially threw ball away.they didn’t run it on “their 1st 2 series’.and we did pressure the QB on 2 of 3 plays.opinions are fine,false facts aren’t.
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and as soon as they got their timing down they cramed it down our throats
August 14th, 2009 at 2:52 pm
that should start 87,did……
August 14th, 2009 at 2:54 pm
Dakota,
I agree. JR looked bigger than last year, but not 300.
Maybe 285.
August 14th, 2009 at 2:54 pm
Wow…it’s a great week to be a Raiders fan! Isn’t it?
As I stated last year…put a ponytail on the guy, and Chaz Schilens looks an awful lot like TJ Hoosyermama. Chaz is the real deal, and he will clean-up with DHB pulling a Safety and CB along with him.
Contrary to what a few have said in here…the ONLY reason the Dallas Safety made the play on DHB’s first long route, was because JaMarcus was late. Period. DHB had to slow his stride to even have a chance at the ball.
Another week of DHB running full-speed, and he and JaMarcus will trust each other more. There were a few times during the game where DHB was open underneath… but JaMarcus didn’t pull the trigger. Instead, he just glanced DHB’s way…while knowing he was going to go to Chaz.
Chaz’s emergence takes a load of pressure off DHB…and DHB’s presence had to be immediately be compensated-for by the Cowboys’ Defense. DHB showed just how valuable he is already…and he didn’t even catch a deep ball.
Kirk Morrison still relies on his speed to make-up for not being in the right place…and when he gets there, his angles put him at a disadvantage. When the D-line is being pried-open, if ANY of our LB’s get blockers’ hands on them, they get pushed out of the play too easily. There’s a certain nasty that is missing from our LB’s…and, as much as I like Kirk, he isn’t anywhere near nasty. The new kids, Nixon and Norris, have a little spunk in’em. Hope they play as well as they get fired-up.
Fargas will not carry the ball as much as either Bush or McFadden…even if he’s named “starter” by Cable. Everybody has seen enough to know (especially after last night) that Bush does what Fargas does, except way better. Nobody does what McFadden does…and the only thing that will change that is injury.
Cable can’t just say, “Sorry, Fargas…you’ve been the team’s leader, received its Commitment To Excellence Award (as voted by your teammates), and one of the team’s hardest workers…so, you’re benched.” Well, he could say that…and then we have a locker room just like every other locker room since before Callahan got the boot: a locker room separated by friends and cliques.
I’d rather we see Fargas get beaten-out during pre-season, and be eased into his role as veteran role model and part-time contributor…with no controversy.
That’s enough for now, I need a beer.
August 14th, 2009 at 2:55 pm
or you cold see it as we play them again so after the first series we went totally basic and soft.
August 14th, 2009 at 2:56 pm
put Jmac on the jenny crank diet
August 14th, 2009 at 2:57 pm
Actually, once they realized Rudy was playing RDE, they exploited that side of the field. They lined up strong side right, and ran it back weakside at Scott that whole series.
August 14th, 2009 at 2:58 pm
JR needs to be between 265- 275. No more!! The big man can run, even at around 280 that dude can still run.
August 14th, 2009 at 2:59 pm
Minnesota has A Peterson and a decent backup I cant think of his name right now. They sure as hell dont need Fargas.
Oh after Favre waited a week before training camp to stay retired Minn needs Garcia ? Favre is a TOOL! Garcia isnt enough of an upgrade over what they have for Minn to even think him.
August 14th, 2009 at 3:00 pm
raidersince87 Says:
August 14th, 2009 at 2:52 pm
lefty12 Says:
August 14th, 2009 at 2:49 pm
*&-did you see the whole game-especially the first cowgirl series.1st play the whole dline was in the qbs face and Ellis batted down the pass.play 2 we stuffed the run.on 3dr and long we put so much pressure that the QB essentially threw ball away.they didn’t run it on “their 1st 2 series’.and we did pressure the QB on 2 of 3 plays.opinions are fine,false facts aren’t.
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and as soon as they got their timing down they cramed it down our throats
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I’m sure you meant to say:
As soon as Nnamdi sat out they cramed it down our throughts. Remember 4 completions on Routt and a TD on there ONLY TD drive.
August 14th, 2009 at 3:00 pm
There’s simply NO EXCUSE for JRuss to not look good in his uniform. Can’t he just get a bigger one?
August 14th, 2009 at 3:00 pm
the point im trying to make is that we keep using the same personnel on the d-line and keep getting the same results, our dt’s get stood up and pushed around more often than not, and besides the batted down pass, there wasnt much pressure from the ends
August 14th, 2009 at 3:01 pm
Rudy!!
LMAO
August 14th, 2009 at 3:03 pm
raidersince87 Says:
August 14th, 2009 at 2:06 pm
what i got from the game last night the good= chaz and jamarcus looked good, our running game is going to be solid, the bad= no depth behind chaz,we have no saftey talent and if anybody thinks mitchell and branch are the answer are crazy, past chris and nnamdi we have no talent, our d-line is still terrible, no pressure on the qb and pushed around against the run way too much, and are OT’s are still horrible
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i posted this earlier
August 14th, 2009 at 3:03 pm
87-i’m not trying to say our Def. doesn’t need to step it up.but we seem to forget that the other team is a pro team also.they are going to move the ball and score.you can’t stop people every series.as i said,we do play them again and this is practice.you try different things with different people to see what your strengths are and what you need to work on,who can do what and who can’t.making broad statements after 1 practice game makes no sense.
August 14th, 2009 at 3:04 pm
and it is just as wrong the second time as it was the first.
August 14th, 2009 at 3:04 pm
jhill Says:
August 14th, 2009 at 2:57 pm
Actually, once they realized Rudy was playing RDE, they exploited that side of the field. They lined up strong side right, and ran it back weakside at Scott that whole series.
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Remember JHILL Scott plays on Nnamdi’s side too. Nnamdi was for that series, and we all know he is also a big part of our run defense as well. If Nnamdi was in, that drive never happens.
August 14th, 2009 at 3:07 pm
im just discussing it, no 1 is making broad statements, i know how the game works, u dont need to tell me, i watched every play , just disecting it, thats what we in here for, so dont tell me what kind of statements im making, i could say yours are broad too, but im just conversing with u
August 14th, 2009 at 3:07 pm
your wrong , see i can say it too
August 14th, 2009 at 3:08 pm
no depth behind Chaz?
Our OTs are horrible?
No S talent?
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Disagree with those points.
I thought Murphy looked solid.
Henderson held Ware to nothing, and Green was pretty good in the running game.
Branch, Huff, and Boyd looked good.
August 14th, 2009 at 3:09 pm
im trying to discuss things with real fans, go back to drinking your kool-aid
August 14th, 2009 at 3:10 pm
i’m glad they ran at Scott in the FIRST PRACTICE game.it shows something that needs to be worked on.both he and the coaches know what they have to do to improve.that is why they play PRACTICE GAMES.
August 14th, 2009 at 3:11 pm
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August 14th, 2009 at 3:11 pm
jhill, at times, mostly against back-ups, but overall i saw a lack of talent at those positions
August 14th, 2009 at 3:11 pm
87 don’t worry about Hill, he gets defensive easily and he talks loud but he’s a good guy and a true fan. He just gets fired up…
August 14th, 2009 at 3:12 pm
Not buying that Az …
Scott being tossed around and pancaked in not what we need out of our DE. We can’t be out of the play at that position before it even develops. Not saying he’s a bum either. I’d be more than happy with the kind of production he gave us last year off the bench. I think he should still be on the field, just in certain situations.
August 14th, 2009 at 3:12 pm
Have a nice weekend!
August 14th, 2009 at 3:14 pm
lefty u start stuff by saying im wrong and this and that, just post your point, ill post mine back, why u getting so upset
August 14th, 2009 at 3:14 pm
Can’t argue with that 87 ..
It was against backups. From a starters perspective, I still liked Branch, but Eugene is not the answer. Also didn’t like the play of 3 of the front 7 in Morrison, Scott, and Warren.
August 14th, 2009 at 3:15 pm
AZ Raider Says:
August 14th, 2009 at 3:11 pm
87 don’t worry about Hill, he gets defensive easily and he talks loud but he’s a good guy and a true fan. He just gets fired up…
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i like jhill, we can discuss stuff back and forth, thats why we here
August 14th, 2009 at 3:16 pm
you are making statements that don’t hold water.and they are broad ,sweeping statements.something like14 or15 different players caught passes.Henderson looked good and Green,as Jhill said,looked good against the run.Huff had an int. and Boyd and Branch made some very important stops on running plays.you also said they ran it down our throats the first two series when in reality,the 1st series they went 3 and out.
August 14th, 2009 at 3:16 pm
AZ Raider Says:
August 14th, 2009 at 3:11 pm
87 don’t worry about Hill, he gets defensive easily and he talks loud but he’s a good guy and a true fan. He just gets fired up…
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That’s funny.
He wasn’t arguing with me though.
August 14th, 2009 at 3:18 pm
Hayez, when the first stringers were facing off last night, which is the only part of the game that comes even close to simulating the regular season, Chaz made one nice catch on a deep cross, and did nothing else that would convince any level headed fan that he’s a future pro bowler. His deep cross route was nice. Was able to get separation and made a nice grab on a ball that was a little overthrown. Which is fine, because J Russ probably knew Chazz would catch it anyway, so he put it to where only Chaz could get it, and in stride, at that. It was a nice play. But it was one play. Is it really time to give Shillens a pro bowl spot based on one solid play against a first string squad in preseason? Everything else he did was against Dallas’s backups.
August 14th, 2009 at 3:18 pm
jhill Says:
August 14th, 2009 at 3:14 pm
Can’t argue with that 87 ..
It was against backups. From a starters perspective, I still liked Branch, but Eugene is not the answer. Also didn’t like the play of 3 of the front 7 in Morrison, Scott, and Warren.
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i thought eugene and branch were late to their spots more often than not, and u right, they are not, i even watched the replay last night, and except for a few bright moments, i wasnt impressed with our first string d, except for our corners
August 14th, 2009 at 3:19 pm
We’re back Nation and that’s all there is to it.
August 14th, 2009 at 3:20 pm
btw,i usually ignore statements like “i’m talking with real fans”,but,i’ve been a real fan longer than you’ve been alive.i had season tickets from the 60s until they deserted us and moved to la la land.don’t try and pull that bs on me son.
August 14th, 2009 at 3:20 pm
Big Nnam is a huge part of the defense over there, don’t get me wrong, but I’m just saying that Scott being on his back can’t be a good thing. It’s the same thing we’ve been hearing all of camp, Mario is putting Scott on the ground or beating him some type of way. I say pull the plug on it now until the young man gains some weight. Let’s gets Shaugnessy, Brown, and Norris in there against the other teams starters so we can see if they have it.
August 14th, 2009 at 3:22 pm
Dakota,
Have a great weekend dude, and enjoy your time with the family.
August 14th, 2009 at 3:22 pm
EnglandRaider, what do you mean that we’re back? Only the first quarter of the game had first string lineups on both sides of the ball. Score was 7-3. McFadden had a nice run at the end of the quarter but Dallas already had a lot of their backups in at that point.
August 14th, 2009 at 3:22 pm
jhill Says:
August 14th, 2009 at 3:12 pm
Not buying that Az …
Scott being tossed around and pancaked in not what we need out of our DE. We can’t be out of the play at that position before it even develops. Not saying he’s a bum either. I’d be more than happy with the kind of production he gave us last year off the bench. I think he should still be on the field, just in certain situations.
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Oh I’m not saying Scotts play wasn’t suspect. I was just pointing out that Nnamdi hold down that corner on run plays/end arounds/etc… You think Nnamdi would have given up 4 completions on 1 drive? Or the TD to Witten? I don’t… Just think if he was in there with the 1st group for that Dallas drive, it would have ended with a FG or P. MO
August 14th, 2009 at 3:23 pm
lefty12 Says:
August 14th, 2009 at 3:20 pm
btw,i usually ignore statements like “i’m talking with real fans”,but,i’ve been a real fan longer than you’ve been alive.i had season tickets from the 60s until they deserted us and moved to la la land.don’t try and pull that bs on me son.
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well than lets post back and forth, i can do that, we can be cool, im not here to argue
August 14th, 2009 at 3:24 pm
I hope everyone here knows that in preseason games, the starters only face off for about the first quarter. By reading a lot of the comments, I’m getting the impression that a lot of you think last night’s entire game involved starters, and for all intents and purposes, counted. I just hope all of you understand that the 1st quarter is all you can really go by.
August 14th, 2009 at 3:25 pm
lefty i respect that, since the 60’s ! thats awesome. but if u want to engage me say _ what about the first series?– ill say u got a point– u dont have to attack what i say
August 14th, 2009 at 3:26 pm
Gruden’s making lots of friends at ESPN. Ripped Jaworski today for bashing Vick. Said Vick will sell more number 7 jerseys in one month than Jaws has his whole life. Go chucky.
August 14th, 2009 at 3:26 pm
87 — We have depth behind Chaz. We’ve got more receivers than places to play them. We haven’t even figured out which of the young guys are better than the other young guys. There’s hardly one that is a definite “no,” because they all have unique talents.
What concerns me more, is Stanford Routt’s play at CB. For a guy who was allegedly pressing #37 Chris Johnson for a starting job…he’s fallen way off. Last night, he looked like a rookie all night.
Although I would’ve probably done something different on the play…I disagree with those who said another Pass Rusher was needed when Romo threw the TD pass to Witten. Romo’s pocket was collapsing, he was dancing, having trouble finding an open receiver anywhere…and if Routt hadn’t been complacent in coverage, the Defense would’ve been lauded as being creative and good.
On a long field, no CB is expected to cover a guy for that long…but on a condensed field, with the endzone giving DB’s an advantage, Routt was expected to cover one person from snap to whistle. He should’ve been able to do that. Having seen him play MUCH better than that for the past few years…I’m going to say this was more of an off-night (week?) for Routt, than it being panic time.
August 14th, 2009 at 3:27 pm
87,
I’m of the opinion that if we have to rely on our Safties in run D, we are screwed. It’s already an nice gain by the time they come into the picture. We didn’t give up any runs of over 15 yds, so they played a good enough safety valve role.
I look at the coverage and making plays on the ball from the Safeties. Branch was solid in coverage, and Huff was better than he has ever been. Preseason, I know, I know. But from a coverage standpoint, I like what Branch and Huff give us.
Agreed that their is NOTHING behind our starting corners. Really couldn’t understand the penalties on Horton based on the replays, but I hope someone steps up out of that group. Routt can only get so many chances man.
August 14th, 2009 at 3:28 pm
Jerry Mac, getting some love from pft.com
August 14th, 2009 at 3:29 pm
909, that’s disgusting.
August 14th, 2009 at 3:30 pm
And a TE at that Hayes …
Routt should not have been beat on that play!
August 14th, 2009 at 3:31 pm
routt still hasnt figured out the nfl game, agreed, and if our d-line plays like last year and we have to rely on morrison and our safties, screwd, agreed, i kno its just pre-season, but man, our dt’s need to get it together
August 14th, 2009 at 3:32 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
August 14th, 2009 at 3:24 pm
I hope everyone here knows that in preseason games, the starters only face off for about the first quarter. By reading a lot of the comments, I’m getting the impression that a lot of you think last night’s entire game involved starters, and for all intents and purposes, counted. I just hope all of you understand that the 1st quarter is all you can really go by.
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I think alot of us are just impressed with the bottom half of the roster performed as well as seeing obvious growth from our young starting offense.
August 14th, 2009 at 3:33 pm
Mr, sorry don’t know if that was even English LOL
….impressed with the the way the bottom half of our roster performed…
August 14th, 2009 at 3:34 pm
87-we’re cool.it just seems many are putting too much emphasis on 1 practice game.
August 14th, 2009 at 3:34 pm
909 Jerry gets out scooped by PFT all day long.
I will be reading about Derrik Burgess getting traded on PFT then an hour later see it here.
August 14th, 2009 at 3:36 pm
Routt and Sands Played like crap!
Kelly was getting double teamed when I was watching him, so I have no comment on him this game.
Poor tackling is a big concern also.
August 14th, 2009 at 3:38 pm
Now that Fargas has shown he’s the best option at RB I know that everyone will stop bashing him from now on.
August 14th, 2009 at 3:38 pm
lol
August 14th, 2009 at 3:39 pm
LMAO that MR has to actually explain to people on this blog that the first quarter was all that mattered last night.
I guess some Raider fans are myopic!
August 14th, 2009 at 3:40 pm
I’m not real big on pre-season games since they mean absolutely nothing.
Generally speaking I’d rather watch a fly lick its legs. But this year I interested because for the first time in six years because we’ve actually got something going.
Last year at this time we were listening to Kiffin constantly telling the media that it was all Mario’s fault and as far as he could see the team had no players.
This year we have a better coach and a young, aggressive hungry team.
Not that we’re going to the Superbowl-although it rightly belongs to us.
We just need to continue to build on what the team did in the last three games of last season.
It’s going to be a wildly offensive Raider football team in the tradition we all know and love.
Russell’s good comments about HB show that he’s growing in awareness of his responsibility.
He’s right when he talks about how he needs familiarity with the receivers.
That only comes with playing.
This year though it’s time for the guy to show it.
When it comes to his weight, I don’t care if he gets as fat as Stabler was in his last year.
As long as he starts connecting with the ball.
August 14th, 2009 at 3:40 pm
agree about the tackling, i thought it was just me
August 14th, 2009 at 3:40 pm
Lefty,
I think we traded for Warren after a few preseason games when it was obvious Sands wasn’t a starter. Correct me if I’m wrong on that. I think if this continues, Al might make a move for some Dline help.
August 14th, 2009 at 3:42 pm
909 Jerry gets out scooped by PFT all day long.
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Jerry’s chips are no where near Florio’s. Florio is paying Corkran more.
August 14th, 2009 at 3:43 pm
after the excitemant of watching the first raider game iv’e seen in months, i watched the replay, i wasnt that impressed with either starting unit, thats just me though, maybe some of you were
August 14th, 2009 at 3:44 pm
Not entirely true that the 1st qtr only matters , the pre season will determine the rest of the best in terms of who we keep, there was a lot of young, good players out there trying to make a name for their selves last night.
August 14th, 2009 at 3:44 pm
EnglandRaider, how is Cable a better coach than Kiffin?
August 14th, 2009 at 3:44 pm
Now AZ does make a good point about the right side of the defense. Perfect example was the first series when Nnamdi is in the game. That 1st series was textbook. I think Shaugnessy at RDE, Norris at SLB, and Brown in the middle might be what we need. Lets see that combination of guys, as Cable like to say, play against the starters.
August 14th, 2009 at 3:45 pm
Lynn, you’re right. It’s not entirely true that only the first quarter matters in preseason games. The first quarter doesn’t matter, either.
August 14th, 2009 at 3:46 pm
As soon as Nnamdi was out they went right at his replacement and had success.
August 14th, 2009 at 3:47 pm
raidersince87 Says:
August 14th, 2009 at 3:43 pm
after the excitemant of watching the first raider game iv’e seen in months, i watched the replay, i wasnt that impressed with either starting unit, thats just me though, maybe some of you were
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Yup, myself included. Any improvement over the last 6 years impresses me. That was drastic improvment however. I’m not saying we looked like a 10+ win team, just that I’m impressed with our progress.
August 14th, 2009 at 3:48 pm
MR — Your negativity isn’t going to change the fact that Chaz Schilens looks like a real player. Not just one game, but multiple games…and in separate years now. What’s wrong with pointing out his potential, and his OBVIOUS top-flight WR traits?
And…I didn’t put him in the Pro Bowl. But, I think he has that kind of talent. If ANY other WR on the team comes along in a hurry, to the point of being truly feared, Chaz will be even better. The reason I say he reminds of Hoosyermama, is because he does…and, when Hoosyermama has another #1-quality WR opposite him, he’s awesome.
JaMarcus Russell is holding the keys to a Cadillac Offense (even with most of them being young). If he can play like a veteran — a wise veteran — and put the ball in the hands of his weapons at the right time, the Raiders will score 22+ points per game this year…a TD over what they averaged last year.
It’s time for this Offense to make its debut.
August 14th, 2009 at 3:49 pm
Lynn from Snot Says:
August 14th, 2009 at 3:46 pm
As soon as Nnamdi was out they went right at his replacement and had success.
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Lots of it too. 4 completions on Routt in one drive. He looked like Hall out there LOL. As I said before, if Nnamdi was in for that drive, it never happens.
August 14th, 2009 at 3:50 pm
One improvement i saw last night was that Shilens is a starting receiver that was not the case last year.
August 14th, 2009 at 3:51 pm
Rout = Nickel at best
August 14th, 2009 at 3:52 pm
Won’t someone please acknowledge what a terrific game Garcia had?! I mean, he carried that clipboard like a true future Hall-of-Famer!!
August 14th, 2009 at 3:54 pm
BJ Raji signed, I wonder how long its gonna take some of the others now…
August 14th, 2009 at 3:54 pm
WHAT IS WITH THIS “YOU’RE POSTING TOO QUIKLY” MODERATOR!
How about if I type backwards?
Is it because of what I said to Mr?
Just kidding Mr. We all know you’re the only authority here.
Anyone ever notice how Mr is never here when Jerry is on vacation?
August 14th, 2009 at 3:55 pm
If B.J. Raji signed, it will be interesting to see now if the “clothing diva” does too!
August 14th, 2009 at 3:56 pm
Lynn from Snot Says:
August 14th, 2009 at 3:51 pm
Rout = Nickel at best
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August 14th, 2009 at 3:56 pm
Yeah, your right Az …
Just watched the second play of the game. Scott was pancaked by Whitten, Warren was doubled and blown back by the LT and LG, and Nnamdi saved the day with a helluva play. Ricky Brown was in his gap as well, as was Morrison.
August 14th, 2009 at 3:58 pm
MR’s not JMac. Hahaha.
JMac knows the difference between the words “rather” and “whether.”
August 14th, 2009 at 4:00 pm
You have to credit Mr with endurance.
He’s been trying to get Al Davis fire to Al Davis for years.
August 14th, 2009 at 4:02 pm
Don’t count on it T-bone. Watch, if we all know the 9ers, they won’t budge and Craptree will still have to sign he knows if he holds out the whole season he’ll drop even lower in next years draft for being a complete douche. He can’t be that stupid though. He’ll sign for #10 money with the niners right before the first regular season game.
August 14th, 2009 at 4:02 pm
Mr also repeats himself so I will.
You have to give Mr credit for endurance.
He’s been trying to get Al Davis to fire Al Davis for years.
August 14th, 2009 at 4:07 pm
As 4EVA would say……………………
BEER ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
August 14th, 2009 at 4:08 pm
Hey LMN, you out there.
We’re gonna give you your fleet back honest!
August 14th, 2009 at 4:17 pm
raidersince87 Says:
August 14th, 2009 at 3:56 pm
Lynn from Snot Says:
August 14th, 2009 at 3:51 pm
Rout = Nickel at best
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Rout is better on the outside. He will be the backup LCB. Branch may end up the Nickle CB.
August 14th, 2009 at 4:27 pm
Hey Jerry! I’ve reading some of your back columns.
Lots of good stuff there. You’ve still got it kid.
Lots of sardonic wit leaking all over the place.
You hate to to let on that you’re part of the Nation though don’t you?
You’ve got people here thinking you’re anti-Raider but I can see that’s not true.
You love Al just like we do.
You’re just PO’d because we don’t play like the years of the Snake.
We’re coming back Jerry.
Russell’s got plenty of cool just like Snake.
The only thing we don’t know yet is can he live Snake’s life and still be cool on game day.
August 14th, 2009 at 4:31 pm
New Post…
August 14th, 2009 at 4:32 pm
Dirty, are you for real? Routt made D. Hall look great! LOl, ok maybe not that bad, but he’s a nickle, nothing more. C. Johnson and Nnamdi be holding down the outsides.
August 14th, 2009 at 4:44 pm
Chris in NY Says:
August 14th, 2009 at 2:29 pm
From Cam Inman:
“Russell will command the majority of attention this season by virtue of (a) his position, (b) his No. 1 overall draft status and (c) his weight.
Russell looked enormous in his unflattering uniform. He must be pushing close to 300 pounds, and he admitted at the start of training camp that he is a “little heavy.” Thursday, he had a Santa Claus torso with thighs that resembled a defensive tackle’s.”
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WTF? Is that even true? Didn’t show up on TV at all. Anyone who was at the game notice it? I thought Russell looked like he was in probably his best shape since joining the Raiders.
^^^^^^Inman is just a dumba$$ HATER with no credibility who has a man crush on Jamarcus Russell….
LOL
August 14th, 2009 at 4:45 pm
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