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News, notes and quotes from the Raiders’ 31-10 win over the Dallas Cowboys Thursday night at the Coliseum:

— Second-year receiver Chaz Schilens seconded the notion offered by JaMarcus Russell that much of Oakland’s struggles with the passing game during Tuesday’s practice had to do with familiarity.

“We just got in a funk,” Schilens said. “We’ve practicing against the same guys every day. They’re smart guys. They are going to pick up on what we’re doing. It came together today.”

— Assessments of Schilens, Russell and McFadden are included my my Web exclusive column.

— Coach Tom Cable, making it clear Russell’s reporting weight was an issue: “That’s between he and I and we’re working on that. He’s doing really good right now.”

— Rookie first-round draft pick Darrius Heyward-Bey had a modest 8-yard gain for his first reception, and missed a chance to come up with a big play on the third play from scrimmage. However, safety Ken Hamlin broke up the pass which was just underthrown from JaMarcus Russell.

“I knew the ball might be coming my way,” Heyward-Bey said. “Outside release, corner did a good job, safety got over and helped pretty fast. Tried to make a play, didn’t happen.”

— With the Raiders in a burn-the-clock mode late in the game, Gary Russell played the role Michael Bush will get during the season and finished with 11 carries for 44 yards.

— Three players did not finish the game. John Wade left with a stinger, Nnamdi Asomugha with a heel bruise and Isaiah Ekejiuba with a shoulder injury. Becasue of Wade’s injury, Samson Satele played much of the game at center.

— A whopping 18 diffeernt players were targeted for 37 passes by Gradkowski, Frye and Russell. Fifteen different players accounted for 22 receptions.

“We now have a talented group there,” Cable said. “It’s nice to see a bunch of guys catching balls and making plays. We need that if we’re going to grow offensively and become a good football team.”

— First a hip flexor, now a heel injury, hopefully it’s not one of those years for Nnamdi Asomugha, and Chris Johnson, battling a knee strain, needs to hold up as well.

Stanford Routt, who had a poor practice Tuesday, struggled against the Cowboys. And when the Raiders went late in the game to a secondary of John Bowie and Jason Horton and corner and Jerome Boyd and Darrick Brown at safeties, it was scary.

— Hard to know exactly what to expect from the defense with the first unit being on the field for such a short time.

The Cowboys scoring drive included an 8-yard gain by Marion Barber, a 14-yard run by Felix Jones and a 12-yard reverse by Patrick Crayton.

On the other hand, the Raiders were stout in forcing Dallas to a three-and-out on its first possession back at its own 7, with Asomugha dumping Barber for a yard loss.

“It was OK. It wasn’t great,” linebacker Thomas Howard said. “It’s early. We got out of our gaps and they creased is a little.”

— Shane Lechler is ready. Three punts, 45.0 yards gross, 44.3 net. One inside the 20.

— The Raiders outgained the Cowboys 456-274 and had 26 first downs _ 15 passing.

— Bruce Gradkowski and Charlie Frye were relatively even in terms of stats, but there were a couple of short throws on sideline passes which will be a staple of the Raiders offense that Gradkowski has trouble throwing.

On one play, he came up short to Louis Murphy, who picked it off the grass for a catch, only to have it correctly overturned by replay.

It’s worth noting that throw is not a strength of Jeff Garcia, either.

Charlie Frye showed a good awareness in the pocket of surrounding defenders and was able to get off completions.

— Players have the day off Friday, with Tom Cable available to the media for a 5 p.m. conference call.

For quick hit notes throughout the game, check my Twitter page.

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  • lefty12

    and it is just as wrong the second time as it was the first.

  • AZ Raider

    jhill Says:
    August 14th, 2009 at 2:57 pm
    Actually, once they realized Rudy was playing RDE, they exploited that side of the field. They lined up strong side right, and ran it back weakside at Scott that whole series.
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    Remember JHILL Scott plays on Nnamdi’s side too. Nnamdi was for that series, and we all know he is also a big part of our run defense as well. If Nnamdi was in, that drive never happens.

  • raidersince87

    im just discussing it, no 1 is making broad statements, i know how the game works, u dont need to tell me, i watched every play , just disecting it, thats what we in here for, so dont tell me what kind of statements im making, i could say yours are broad too, but im just conversing with u

  • raidersince87

    your wrong , see i can say it too

  • jhill

    no depth behind Chaz?

    Our OTs are horrible?

    No S talent?

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    Disagree with those points.

    I thought Murphy looked solid.

    Henderson held Ware to nothing, and Green was pretty good in the running game.

    Branch, Huff, and Boyd looked good.

  • raidersince87

    im trying to discuss things with real fans, go back to drinking your kool-aid

  • lefty12

    i’m glad they ran at Scott in the FIRST PRACTICE game.it shows something that needs to be worked on.both he and the coaches know what they have to do to improve.that is why they play PRACTICE GAMES.

  • raidersince87

    jhill, at times, mostly against back-ups, but overall i saw a lack of talent at those positions

  • AZ Raider

    87 don’t worry about Hill, he gets defensive easily and he talks loud but he’s a good guy and a true fan. He just gets fired up…

  • jhill

    Not buying that Az …

    Scott being tossed around and pancaked in not what we need out of our DE. We can’t be out of the play at that position before it even develops. Not saying he’s a bum either. I’d be more than happy with the kind of production he gave us last year off the bench. I think he should still be on the field, just in certain situations.

  • Have a nice weekend!

  • raidersince87

    lefty u start stuff by saying im wrong and this and that, just post your point, ill post mine back, why u getting so upset

  • jhill

    Can’t argue with that 87 ..

    It was against backups. From a starters perspective, I still liked Branch, but Eugene is not the answer. Also didn’t like the play of 3 of the front 7 in Morrison, Scott, and Warren.

  • raidersince87

    AZ Raider Says:
    August 14th, 2009 at 3:11 pm
    87 don’t worry about Hill, he gets defensive easily and he talks loud but he’s a good guy and a true fan. He just gets fired up…

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    i like jhill, we can discuss stuff back and forth, thats why we here

  • lefty12

    you are making statements that don’t hold water.and they are broad ,sweeping statements.something like14 or15 different players caught passes.Henderson looked good and Green,as Jhill said,looked good against the run.Huff had an int. and Boyd and Branch made some very important stops on running plays.you also said they ran it down our throats the first two series when in reality,the 1st series they went 3 and out.

  • jhill

    AZ Raider Says:
    August 14th, 2009 at 3:11 pm

    87 don’t worry about Hill, he gets defensive easily and he talks loud but he’s a good guy and a true fan. He just gets fired up…

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    That’s funny.

    He wasn’t arguing with me though.

  • Hayez, when the first stringers were facing off last night, which is the only part of the game that comes even close to simulating the regular season, Chaz made one nice catch on a deep cross, and did nothing else that would convince any level headed fan that he’s a future pro bowler. His deep cross route was nice. Was able to get separation and made a nice grab on a ball that was a little overthrown. Which is fine, because J Russ probably knew Chazz would catch it anyway, so he put it to where only Chaz could get it, and in stride, at that. It was a nice play. But it was one play. Is it really time to give Shillens a pro bowl spot based on one solid play against a first string squad in preseason? Everything else he did was against Dallas’s backups.

  • raidersince87

    jhill Says:
    August 14th, 2009 at 3:14 pm
    Can’t argue with that 87 ..

    It was against backups. From a starters perspective, I still liked Branch, but Eugene is not the answer. Also didn’t like the play of 3 of the front 7 in Morrison, Scott, and Warren.

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    i thought eugene and branch were late to their spots more often than not, and u right, they are not, i even watched the replay last night, and except for a few bright moments, i wasnt impressed with our first string d, except for our corners

  • ENGLANDRAIDER

    We’re back Nation and that’s all there is to it.

  • lefty12

    btw,i usually ignore statements like “i’m talking with real fans”,but,i’ve been a real fan longer than you’ve been alive.i had season tickets from the 60s until they deserted us and moved to la la land.don’t try and pull that bs on me son.

  • jhill

    Big Nnam is a huge part of the defense over there, don’t get me wrong, but I’m just saying that Scott being on his back can’t be a good thing. It’s the same thing we’ve been hearing all of camp, Mario is putting Scott on the ground or beating him some type of way. I say pull the plug on it now until the young man gains some weight. Let’s gets Shaugnessy, Brown, and Norris in there against the other teams starters so we can see if they have it.

  • Dakota,

    Have a great weekend dude, and enjoy your time with the family.

  • EnglandRaider, what do you mean that we’re back? Only the first quarter of the game had first string lineups on both sides of the ball. Score was 7-3. McFadden had a nice run at the end of the quarter but Dallas already had a lot of their backups in at that point.

  • AZ Raider

    jhill Says:
    August 14th, 2009 at 3:12 pm
    Not buying that Az …

    Scott being tossed around and pancaked in not what we need out of our DE. We can’t be out of the play at that position before it even develops. Not saying he’s a bum either. I’d be more than happy with the kind of production he gave us last year off the bench. I think he should still be on the field, just in certain situations.
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    Oh I’m not saying Scotts play wasn’t suspect. I was just pointing out that Nnamdi hold down that corner on run plays/end arounds/etc… You think Nnamdi would have given up 4 completions on 1 drive? Or the TD to Witten? I don’t… Just think if he was in there with the 1st group for that Dallas drive, it would have ended with a FG or P. MO

  • raidersince87

    lefty12 Says:
    August 14th, 2009 at 3:20 pm
    btw,i usually ignore statements like “i’m talking with real fans”,but,i’ve been a real fan longer than you’ve been alive.i had season tickets from the 60s until they deserted us and moved to la la land.don’t try and pull that bs on me son.

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    well than lets post back and forth, i can do that, we can be cool, im not here to argue

  • I hope everyone here knows that in preseason games, the starters only face off for about the first quarter. By reading a lot of the comments, I’m getting the impression that a lot of you think last night’s entire game involved starters, and for all intents and purposes, counted. I just hope all of you understand that the 1st quarter is all you can really go by.

  • raidersince87

    lefty i respect that, since the 60’s ! thats awesome. but if u want to engage me say _ what about the first series?– ill say u got a point– u dont have to attack what i say

  • Gruden’s making lots of friends at ESPN. Ripped Jaworski today for bashing Vick. Said Vick will sell more number 7 jerseys in one month than Jaws has his whole life. Go chucky.

  • HayesDaze37

    87 — We have depth behind Chaz. We’ve got more receivers than places to play them. We haven’t even figured out which of the young guys are better than the other young guys. There’s hardly one that is a definite “no,” because they all have unique talents.

    What concerns me more, is Stanford Routt’s play at CB. For a guy who was allegedly pressing #37 Chris Johnson for a starting job…he’s fallen way off. Last night, he looked like a rookie all night.

    Although I would’ve probably done something different on the play…I disagree with those who said another Pass Rusher was needed when Romo threw the TD pass to Witten. Romo’s pocket was collapsing, he was dancing, having trouble finding an open receiver anywhere…and if Routt hadn’t been complacent in coverage, the Defense would’ve been lauded as being creative and good.

    On a long field, no CB is expected to cover a guy for that long…but on a condensed field, with the endzone giving DB’s an advantage, Routt was expected to cover one person from snap to whistle. He should’ve been able to do that. Having seen him play MUCH better than that for the past few years…I’m going to say this was more of an off-night (week?) for Routt, than it being panic time.

  • jhill

    87,

    I’m of the opinion that if we have to rely on our Safties in run D, we are screwed. It’s already an nice gain by the time they come into the picture. We didn’t give up any runs of over 15 yds, so they played a good enough safety valve role.

    I look at the coverage and making plays on the ball from the Safeties. Branch was solid in coverage, and Huff was better than he has ever been. Preseason, I know, I know. But from a coverage standpoint, I like what Branch and Huff give us.

    Agreed that their is NOTHING behind our starting corners. Really couldn’t understand the penalties on Horton based on the replays, but I hope someone steps up out of that group. Routt can only get so many chances man.

  • Jerry Mac, getting some love from pft.com

  • 909, that’s disgusting.

  • jhill

    And a TE at that Hayes …

    Routt should not have been beat on that play!

  • raidersince87

    routt still hasnt figured out the nfl game, agreed, and if our d-line plays like last year and we have to rely on morrison and our safties, screwd, agreed, i kno its just pre-season, but man, our dt’s need to get it together

  • AZ Raider

    The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    August 14th, 2009 at 3:24 pm
    I hope everyone here knows that in preseason games, the starters only face off for about the first quarter. By reading a lot of the comments, I’m getting the impression that a lot of you think last night’s entire game involved starters, and for all intents and purposes, counted. I just hope all of you understand that the 1st quarter is all you can really go by.
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    I think alot of us are just impressed with the bottom half of the roster performed as well as seeing obvious growth from our young starting offense.

  • AZ Raider

    Mr, sorry don’t know if that was even English LOL

    ….impressed with the the way the bottom half of our roster performed…

  • lefty12

    87-we’re cool.it just seems many are putting too much emphasis on 1 practice game.

  • 909 Jerry gets out scooped by PFT all day long.

    I will be reading about Derrik Burgess getting traded on PFT then an hour later see it here.

  • Routt and Sands Played like crap!

    Kelly was getting double teamed when I was watching him, so I have no comment on him this game.

    Poor tackling is a big concern also.

  • Now that Fargas has shown he’s the best option at RB I know that everyone will stop bashing him from now on.

  • lol

  • LMAO that MR has to actually explain to people on this blog that the first quarter was all that mattered last night.

    I guess some Raider fans are myopic!

  • ENGLANDRAIDER

    I’m not real big on pre-season games since they mean absolutely nothing.
    Generally speaking I’d rather watch a fly lick its legs. But this year I interested because for the first time in six years because we’ve actually got something going.

    Last year at this time we were listening to Kiffin constantly telling the media that it was all Mario’s fault and as far as he could see the team had no players.

    This year we have a better coach and a young, aggressive hungry team.

    Not that we’re going to the Superbowl-although it rightly belongs to us.
    We just need to continue to build on what the team did in the last three games of last season.

    It’s going to be a wildly offensive Raider football team in the tradition we all know and love.

    Russell’s good comments about HB show that he’s growing in awareness of his responsibility.
    He’s right when he talks about how he needs familiarity with the receivers.
    That only comes with playing.
    This year though it’s time for the guy to show it.
    When it comes to his weight, I don’t care if he gets as fat as Stabler was in his last year.
    As long as he starts connecting with the ball.

  • raidersince87

    agree about the tackling, i thought it was just me

  • jhill

    Lefty,

    I think we traded for Warren after a few preseason games when it was obvious Sands wasn’t a starter. Correct me if I’m wrong on that. I think if this continues, Al might make a move for some Dline help.

  • jhill

    909 Jerry gets out scooped by PFT all day long.

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    Jerry’s chips are no where near Florio’s. Florio is paying Corkran more.

  • raidersince87

    after the excitemant of watching the first raider game iv’e seen in months, i watched the replay, i wasnt that impressed with either starting unit, thats just me though, maybe some of you were

  • Not entirely true that the 1st qtr only matters , the pre season will determine the rest of the best in terms of who we keep, there was a lot of young, good players out there trying to make a name for their selves last night.

  • EnglandRaider, how is Cable a better coach than Kiffin?