Manning will compete as slot corner
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Saturday, August 15th, 2009 at 8:27 pm in Oakland Raiders.
Amid speculation the Raiders were looking hard at bringing in another linebacker, they instead signed veteran cornerback Ricky Manning Jr.
Manning immediately got in some work as a nickel cornerback and was told to acquaint himself with strong safety.
That could mean two things: 1) They’re looking to give Stanford Routt a push and realize playing inside isn’t his strength; and 2) They’re protecting themselves at strong safety behind Tyvon Branch in case Mike Mitchell’s hamstring becomes a long-term issue.
Manning failed to get a hand on a ball that went over his head from Bruce Gradkowski to Todd Watson, and was a late arrival on a JaMarcus Russell pass to Johnnie Lee Higgins.
A six-year veteran, Manning played five games with the St. Louis Rams before breaking his ankle and going on injured reserve.
“I’ll get a little bit more comfortable with the defense,’’ Manning said. “I made a mistake or two today. That’s good for me because that means it won’t happen again.”
Manning looks nothing like your classic Raiders cornerback. He’s a sawed-off 5-foot-9 and 193 pounds, probably the most thickly muscled cornerback the Raiders have had since James Hasty came aboard for 12 days in 2001 before changing his mind and retiring.
“I think he’s more of a physical corner than a speed guy, so that might be a little different from what we had in the past, but he’ll help, cause he’s done it before,’’ said Nnamdi Asomugha, who played in all-star games with Manning when both were in high school in Los Angeles.
Cable said Manning’s acquisition had to do with “just getting some fresh legs at the position,’’ but also noted, “He’s a proven guy. He’s here to give us more juice and compete as well.’’
Manning played a big role in getting the Carolina Panthers to the Super Bowl in the 2003 season, setting up a touchdown with an interception of the Rams’ Marc Bulger in a divisional playoff game and intercepting Donovan McNabb three times in the NFC championship.
He was arrested and charnged with felony battery in 2006 after signing an offer sheet with the Bears, pleaded no contest, and was suspended for one game by the NFL.
He said he had been talking to the Raiders for “a couple of months,’’ and believes he can bring some experience and physicality to the secondary.
“I think bringing in a veteran guy like myself, whether I’m out there, whether I’m pushing guys, is going to help, because I’ve been a part of defenses that have been in the top five,’’ Manning said. “I’ve been to the Super Bowl, so I’ve seen what it takes. If I can bring that character, that image, that would be great.”
Tight end John Paul Fsochi was waived to make room for Manning.
More news, notes and quotes:
– Quarterback Jeff Garcia “left camp to take care of some personal business at home,’’ Cable said.
When asked if Garcia was assessing his future in football or with the Raiders, Cable said, “no, no. Nothing like that at all.’’ He said Cable could be back Sunday and hoped he would participate on some level on the field this week.
Cable said he was concerned by the amount of missed practice time, but wasn’t ready to address whether Garcia was still the backup quarterback or if he was on the verge of being pushed for that status by Gradkowski and Frye.
– Interesting exchange with Cable regarding the use of running back Darren McFadden.
When Cable was asked how close McFadden was to starting and carrying the ball more, Cable said, “I’d say pretty close.’’
When it was suggested fans might want to see McFadden get 20 touches a game, Cable said, “I was thinking more touches than that, but if they want 20, we’ll work on it.
Asked about getting McFadden into a groove with additional carries, Cable said, “I’ll tell you the same thing about Justin Fargas and Michael Bush, too. I’m not going to get into any of that. I know where we’re headed, and you’ll see when we get there.’’
Cable said the third preseason game might give a glimpse of how the running back rotation will actually work.
– Asomugha on what makes wide receiver Chaz Schilens so tough to cover: “He outworks everybody on the team and he’s been like that every since I met him. When he drops a pass he’s upset. He’s fighting, he’s feisty. He’s going to help out.’’
– Guard Robert Gallery said he expects to be turned loose this week in double sessions Tuesday and Wednesday with the 49ers and hopes to play Saturday in the second preseason game.
– A good half hour to 45 minutes after practice ended, quarterback Charlie Frye was by himself on one of the fields, throwing deep balls to a member of the support staff.
– LB Isaiah Ekejiuba said his shoulder briefly came out place when his hand hooked on the helmet of a defender, but that it was popped back in, there was no extensive damage and he thinks he’ll be back soon.
“I’m not worried about it,’’ Ekejiuba said. “I’ve got a lot more range of motion than yesterday. A couple of days and I’ll be good to go.’’
– Others who did not practice Saturday included WR Louis Murphy (hip), G Marcus Johnson (calf), C John Wade (stinger), DT Terdell Sands (quad), LB Isaiah Ekejiuba (shoulder) and Mitchell. Wide receiver Javon Walker continues to work out with trainers and tackle Khalif Barnes is out with a broken ankle.
– Higgins stepped in as the holder in place of Shane Lechler on a couple of field goal attempts by Ricky Schmitt.
– Walker said he expects to practice for the first time on Aug. 24 and hopes to play against the New Orleans Saints on Aug. 29.
– No confirmation from the Raiders regarding workouts for linebackers Morlon Greenwood or Derrick Brooks, as has been reported.
The Raiders are believed to be interested in Brooks in a backup role, but realize a more likely destination is New Orleans because of the proxminity to his home in Florida and familiarity with the NFC South.
– It was a tough day in some cases for practice highlights, given that many of the best team session drills were in areas with an obstructed view by the media. For some of those quick hits, check my Twitter page.
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August 15th, 2009 at 8:29 pm
Hey
August 15th, 2009 at 8:29 pm
Cool
August 15th, 2009 at 8:30 pm
HAHAHA, 1st
August 15th, 2009 at 8:31 pm
send Manning home…
send him home now…
August 15th, 2009 at 8:33 pm
send Ekujuiba home…
he’s got a dislocated shoulder…
he’s not going to be any good for us…
release him… no-one’s gonna pick him up…
August 15th, 2009 at 8:34 pm
send Garcia home…
he hasn’t done anything …
and he’s not gonna do anything…
keep Frye…
August 15th, 2009 at 8:35 pm
send Mitchell home…
his hammy needs six weeks…
he’ll be available about midway thru the season…
August 15th, 2009 at 8:37 pm
We should have retired Garcia and signed Vick!
August 15th, 2009 at 8:38 pm
send Higgins and Garcia to Minnesota for Jaspar Brinkley…
you won’t be sorry…
August 15th, 2009 at 8:39 pm
send Florida Pete to bed…
he’s freaking tired and it’s late…
August 15th, 2009 at 8:43 pm
florida pete all those players you said to send home are key players to the raiders. As for ricky manning i love this pick up this guy could start over chris johnson if he plays to his potential
August 15th, 2009 at 8:57 pm
I’ve finally watched the game against the Dallas and I’m confused about all the hue an cry about the run defense. In the first half Dallas had one series where they ran the ball pretty well and that was it. I also can believe the belly aching about ONE play wher we rushed 3 except for that one play we played the pass well. For the most aprt Dallas could NOT run on us in the first half. When our players were actually out there.
I think you guy’s are very confused as to the actual damage Dallas did on the ground against us with their 1st teamers.
Someone get the stats from the 1st half and I’ll show you what I mean.
August 15th, 2009 at 8:58 pm
what are you talking about ekujuba is a key member of our special teams. he is freaking AWESOME in special teams. keep him. we signed him back for a reason. because hes good.
and im seriously thinking about picking up chaz schillens on my fantasy? but i dont know? the way jerry talks about him. im really thinking hard. drop. anthony gonzalez for schillens? noooo cant do it. i have 5 raiders on my roster and 3 start.
i got mcfadden, miller, raiders D/ST, and russell and michael bush on the bench.
August 15th, 2009 at 9:00 pm
Start over Chris Johnson well we’ll see wont we.
Raider fans just catch your breath man that 1st half on defense IMO was very good.
10 points all game and we stink on defense???? are you kidding me???
August 15th, 2009 at 9:01 pm
Al`s master plan is to someday field a team entirely of corners, all under 4.4 40`s.
August 15th, 2009 at 9:01 pm
Someone is really smoking something funky!!
August 15th, 2009 at 9:01 pm
TJ,…you still in Mountain View?…by the way, Raider Mort was at my tailgate thursday night,..he is calling Gary monday morning,..you should call too,..its ok now.
August 15th, 2009 at 9:04 pm
Let me say this in that 1st half our DT’s played very well, I’d like someone, anyone who disagrees come in here and challenge me on it.
This we don’t have DT’s crap is stupid, there is NOTHING wrong with the DT’s on this team. But we dominated the DT’s on Dallas’s defense we ran all over them…………..period
Stop the DAMN NONSENSE!!
August 15th, 2009 at 9:06 pm
I’ll call if you’ll leave me the hell ALONE……..OK!
August 15th, 2009 at 9:07 pm
Ok TJ,..heres the dealio,..you mention me in your chat with Gary and I will stop,…but dude you shouldnt be hatin on me, it was I that has got you back in with Gary.
August 15th, 2009 at 9:08 pm
TJ,..I was at the game, were you?…I saw from my killer seats that Jessica was NEVER once pressured while he was there,..not even close,…all damn night…the D sucked.
August 15th, 2009 at 9:12 pm
they are going to hate on our DTs and LBs all year because we didn’t draft the players they wanted.
August 15th, 2009 at 9:12 pm
Sucked and we sacked him and pressured them into check downs on 3rd and 15. We did something right they couldn’t score. And couldn’t pickup 1st downs. So what was the problem because we picked up a lot of 1st downs and TD’s. So what was their problem vs OUR RUN.
August 15th, 2009 at 9:15 pm
Ah hah! Lefty12 Ah hah!! that’s the problem we didn’t draft their boyfriends so they’re hating on the players we have even though they’re better than their boyfriends.
August 15th, 2009 at 9:17 pm
just because someone is at the game doesn’t mean squat.some of the most ignorant fans i’ve meet were the ones at games.and if i’m not mistaken,the 1st play Ellis was in his face and batted the ball down.the 3rd play,Branch blitzed and forced him to throw the ball out of bounds.that’s 2 out of the first 3 plays where we had pressure.
August 15th, 2009 at 9:18 pm
All of a sudden I can’t get an amen? where did everybody go?
Lefty12 they all got mad because the truth hurts.
Norco Bob I aint mad at you bro. I’m just telling you man it’s YOUR thing not mine. And how do you want me to refer to you as Norco Bob?
August 15th, 2009 at 9:20 pm
Lefty12, man I swear I just don’t get these Raider fans they just hate on everyone they don’t like our own players they hate on ‘em. It’s crazy!!
August 15th, 2009 at 9:23 pm
If you could talk to the Cowboy’s coaches you’d get an entirely different outlook on what happened Thurs. nite. We handled those guy’s, almost easily. If not for a hlding penalty on Coop and a few other miscues it would’ve been WORSE!.
August 15th, 2009 at 9:24 pm
Priest,a lot of people on here don’t really want to discuss things.they just like to say so and so sucks and has to go.we should cut this guy or that guy.if you don’t agree with them they wait awhile and start all over.but i don’t need to tell you this,you already know.
August 15th, 2009 at 9:25 pm
I’m watchinmg the 2nd half and it’s just more of the same Their QB’s are running for their lives throwing the ball away and checking it down. Yet our defense sucks.
It makes you wonder do they actually KNOW football. GThis game was a SLAM freakin’ DUNK.
August 15th, 2009 at 9:27 pm
Sure I know Left, but WHY?? what do they want??
August 15th, 2009 at 9:30 pm
isn’t it funny,we scored the most points of any team this weekend against a team that is considered a SB contender,plus hold them to 10 points and the sky is falling.i will admit,we only scored 3 in the 1st qtr.,but still,we looked pretty good for the 1st practice game.btw,Nnamdi left the game on their only TD drive and they took advantage of SR,or else they might not even get that 1 TD.
August 15th, 2009 at 9:31 pm
can’t sleep…
Ekejuiba has a dislocated shoulder… he’s gonna be fine until it’s dislocated again… which will be the first time he hits anyone with it… which means he will be guarding it… and that makes him a problem…
please tell me what on thursday night inspires you guys into thinking our 1st team defense is stout against the run???
Manning is a thug… and not the kind of thug you want… serious character issues… small man complex…
Garcia hasn’t got anything left in the tank… he bruises easy and he’s just trying to draw a paycheck… trade him to Minniesota…
Mitchell’s hammy has been bothering him all year… without serious rest he will need an operation…
any questions???
August 15th, 2009 at 9:33 pm
Yes TJ,..Norco Bob is what I go by,..even Gary knows Im addicted to Norco,.he told me to go to rehab for them but hey like I told Gary, rehab is for quitters.
August 15th, 2009 at 9:35 pm
on the positive side…
i think we will have a very good offense…
with one caveat…
Fargas needs to be the no. 3 back…
August 15th, 2009 at 9:36 pm
going back to bed…
August 15th, 2009 at 9:36 pm
i don’t know Priest.i don’t understand the hate some have for OUR players.what i find funny is they’ll hate one guy and is soon as he is gone,they start hating someone else.its like the old saying-the backup QB is always the most popular guy on a team.well in our case its the -RB,WR,OT,OG,DT,DE,etc.
August 15th, 2009 at 9:37 pm
Lefty12, I noticed that too but I figure I’ll give them the benefit of the doubt. But this was an old fashion ass kickin’…………….period
Folks!! listen I think this is the start of something we’ve all been waiting on………..stop whinning for a change and embrace it. You don’t need All-Pros at every position to win a SB you just need quality starters that compete. And we have enough of them to win now.
I am not at all predicting a SB championship I’m simply suggesting that this could be a lot more fun fr you if you look at it objectively. Instead of constantly trumpeting your own agenda.
This team is very talented it’s just very young which will cost us some games but oncw they really learn to win. We’ll be on our way………..period
August 15th, 2009 at 9:37 pm
Tough start for us,..we get blwon out by san diego as per usual,..but eek out a win at arrowhead,..so we start 1-1
August 15th, 2009 at 9:41 pm
They have RB’s….
This dumb quote came form a discharger blog:
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Fargas
McFadden
Bush
Rankin
If they cut Rankin, we need to grab him as quick as we can.
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August 15th, 2009 at 9:42 pm
My concern is strictly on the right side of the line occupied by TScott. I believe Cable echoed the same without directly naming any player (saying something like one side of the line played well). All of the other jazz is secondary to me.
TScott was pretty well handled by Dallas’ LT …either pancaked or totally blocked/tossed out of the plays. I know Dallas has a monster line; but that really wasn’t encouraging.
I had high hopes for Scott but maybe they were too high. We’ll see.
August 15th, 2009 at 9:44 pm
Florida Pete, if yu objectively LOOK at that game in the 1st half they had ONE good drive with some counters and some misdirection. the DT’s werenot and I repeat were not defeated they were finessed. Dalla ran a couple of reverses andwe missed a tackle(Rickey Brown) in the hole. Other than that they’re run was SHUT DOWN. Go back ove r it play by play I charted the whole half which is very difficult witlout the right eguip. We beat up their RB’s while our RB’s gained huge yardage run after run. Who’s run defense was better OUR”S was……….period
August 15th, 2009 at 9:46 pm
The dallas offense was 3 and out 3 out of 6 drives in the 1st half. Had 2 drives with 4 plays each and the one scoring drive. I charted EVERY play and we dominated them.
August 15th, 2009 at 9:50 pm
another thing i’ve noticed Priest,is we draft guys like Norris and Matt S. and they aren’t starter material because they weren’t on these guys draft lists or they aren’t someone they wanted.plus there seems to be this attitude that if you come from a western school,you aren’t good enough to play in the league.
August 15th, 2009 at 9:52 pm
Priest,nice break down.
August 15th, 2009 at 9:56 pm
BHP, What do you do with Rankin, and N. Miller, practice squad?
August 15th, 2009 at 9:57 pm
Norco, thought you were going to bed? Please do, and I hope you have dreams of death, destruction, famine and any other foul s4!t you can come up with. Were we watching the same game? I saw a still fairly young team (remember that people) play fast, hard, and make plays. Yes it was game 1 of the preseason and No I am not drinking the Al Davis blood-flavored koolaid. I am just sick and tired of reading these GD boards and reading posts from dudes like you and your boy Petey Pablo always looking for something to bitch and moan about. We played good out first game against another jersey just like when we ended the season. If you’re a fan of this team your whole life like i have, then you know the score, we’ve been the standard, we’ve been a constant, and lately we’ve been a joke. But if you don’t see that we are on a rise with our young group of players than I suggest you jump off the boat now or stop acting like F’ing Cubs fans and add some more positive vibe to this season. Sorry about the long post guys but I was sitting here in hot-ass texas burning some kush and when i starting reading the comments, mofos damn near blew my high. And Priest I got your amen bro
August 15th, 2009 at 9:58 pm
On offense, I’m going to go out on a lim and say we might have not a good LT but possibly a great on. Mario dominated Ware and I mean dominated him. Mario is EXTREMELY strong and powerful once he got his mitts on Ware it was OVER. I doubt Ware even made one single play we ran right at him and Mario crushed their left side. This kid is some kinda’ good and I’m telling you he’splayed probowler and others and it doesn’t matter They don’t even make a play. It’s scary!!
I also saw this kid at LOG #78 he looks like another Mario in waiting,he simply can’t be as athletic and strong as Mario but he looks good.
Last thing everyone said I wascrazy talking up Cornell Green, but he had a very exceptable game. I told you guy’s we didn’t pass up 2 1st rnd LT’s because we thought it was cute. They passed them becasue THEY like what they have.
August 15th, 2009 at 9:59 pm
see told yaw you were messing up my high I meant Petey take go to bed
Back to my space mission
August 15th, 2009 at 10:01 pm
Mario is hard….truth
August 15th, 2009 at 10:05 pm
Priestas i mentioned the other day,everyone wants Green gone but we keep bringing in players to compete against him and try an put him on the bench,but he is still there-nobody can beat him out.
August 15th, 2009 at 10:06 pm
Thec07, Rankin is just too good to let go, I say he gets a mysterious injury and stays on IR as for NMiller WOW!! this kid comes outta nowhere and is a player. As I said last night we went from no WR’s to tooo many. FIND a place for Miller simple as that find a place for him on teams. Both too good to let go…………..period
Left, I’m getting to the point that i cpouldn’t care less what these guy’s think about our drafts. Let them bellyache all they want because as soon as we start winning they’ll all jump onboard with the “I knew all along” song so let ‘em cry and whine.
August 15th, 2009 at 10:07 pm
BHP,<———- on point as usual…
August 15th, 2009 at 10:09 pm
I like miller to push JLH…… All of our WR’s looked good against dalla$$… I hate to see any of them go.
BHP, what would you do with walker?
August 15th, 2009 at 10:09 pm
i said the same thing about Rankin last night.also,i wouldn’t be surprised if we ended up trading one of our WRs,although i have no idea which one.
August 15th, 2009 at 10:11 pm
Thanks Nitrock…
Left the guy (Green) is getting it done wether we like it or not. I was sure we would replace him anmd maybe we still will but he is not nearly as bad as they say he is. He knows the scheme and he competes. What else do you need? Cable has done wonders with him, again quality starter!
August 15th, 2009 at 10:15 pm
Marcus Johnson right? I liked him.
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I also saw this kid at LOG #78 he looks like another Mario in waiting,he simply can’t be as athletic and strong as Mario but he looks good.
August 15th, 2009 at 10:17 pm
Thec07 I really need to see Walker first, He’s really going to have to bring it this time. Problem is I think he will and then what. We have to showcase some people and get picks for some of these guy’s. We can’t afford to just cut them, no way.
If Walker really shows up we have to keep him he just knows too much about the league and how to play.
Yeah! you have to keep him. For late in the year if we have a chance you’ll need him in playoffs, if we have a chance.
August 15th, 2009 at 10:18 pm
Yeah that’s him #78 Johnson, I’m watching him now.
August 15th, 2009 at 10:21 pm
Hey! he’s playing RT now and pulled on a counter run man this kid looks good. Made a key block on that counter play.
August 15th, 2009 at 10:22 pm
i’d just like to add that i’m not sure how good or bad the team will be this year.but it is a new year and as Nitrock says we should try an be positive about the coming season,just like the start of every new season.until it is PROVEN different,we,as fans of the Raiders,should be like the players and be thinking playoffs/superbowl.now it might not happen,hell it probably won’t happen this year,but all the negativity is really a downer.didn’t mean to rant,but i had to get that out of my system.
August 15th, 2009 at 10:22 pm
hey priest ,cornell green is the best we can do this year. he’s alright. i’m concerned about the rg position. i would like to see paul mcquistan get more looks i think he’s more physical than cooper.
rankin…. i don’t see us cutting him i think the bronco’s would love to swoop him up.i like fargas but we should try to get a third rd. pick from somebody.we have 3 young horse who will dominate the league .
walker… throw him in the slot.( if his comeback is as good as being said) i think jlh might have to stick to punt return duty.
damn… we are gonna score alot of points this year !
August 15th, 2009 at 10:23 pm
I’m sorry RG!! haha my eyes are fooling me it was an old counter trey play.
August 15th, 2009 at 10:25 pm
As far as I’m concerned, if we can trade Fargas for anything of value 5th-3rd round pick, we need to do it.
I love Rankin as a 3rd running back, and Bush did well as a blocker. DMAC did well, but he was responsible for one of the sacks last night.
August 15th, 2009 at 10:30 pm
amen, left, me too….
i’m going to chart the 2nd half and see what little nuggets i can gleen…
adios for now..
August 15th, 2009 at 10:32 pm
later Priest and everyone else.
August 15th, 2009 at 10:39 pm
the days of 12-20 pts are over i see us easily in the 24-28 on average.i like what cable is doing emphasizing on the passing game. want to see how the pick apart the niners cover 2.
come regular season alot of teams are gonna are gonna be confused by our offense ( scarry )
on a funny note…. oakland got no love from they clowns in the media . if dallas would have won the would be praising romo with-out to. it’s not gonna be long before the network clowns begin to recognize what the raiders are putting together .
August 15th, 2009 at 11:10 pm
I have to say this now after just watching the 1st half of the 2nd qrtr. The 2nd team OLINE’s coordination is simply outstanding. GThe c and OG play is great and the 2 OT’s aren’t bad. Johnson and McQ can flat out play and this kid named Pears is not too shabby either.
Tom Cable IMO based on what I’ve seen in 3years is hands down the best thing that’s happened to this team in over 20 years. I’ll take this guy over Gruden even, just based on what he has done with this Oline it nothing short of amazing!! the coordination and power is just sick.
And Brandon Myers #83 TE was the steal of our draft this year hands down, this kid could start for us right now. He is just so solid and square his inline is as good a ZM and who knew he could play in the passing game as well? A legitimate STEAL.
August 15th, 2009 at 11:10 pm
I’m sorry 1st half of the 3rd qrtr.
August 15th, 2009 at 11:12 pm
Hey priest what do you think of schilen’s projected stats after the preseason game?
http://www.nfl.com/fantasy/story?id=09000d5d80feb8fb&template=no-right-rail-with-comments&confirm=true
Hes near the bottom of the list. Not to sound negative, but did you see anything you didn’t like about the raiders?
August 15th, 2009 at 11:26 pm
Strictly looking at their one’s vs out one’s …
Cooper Carlisle killed a TD with his holding call, and a nice drive with his false start. That absolutely killed us from our Oline last year. That HAS to be addressed!
Trevor Scott at DE was an issue on run downs. I think everyone saw that.
That second drive was more about Routt replacing Nnamdi than anything. Every successful play went right at him.
August 15th, 2009 at 11:32 pm
Yeah Routt was a disaster that game.
August 15th, 2009 at 11:37 pm
With Garcia’s injury and the solid play of Gradkowski and Frye, my opinion is that they should think about letting Garcia go. Of course, probably good to let Garcia get healthy and show what he can do but I’m starting to wonder about this guy’s durability.
August 15th, 2009 at 11:39 pm
Priest you asked someone to challenge your analysis, well here it goes. I watched the game and overall I think our OFFENSE is clicking already and gives us alot to be optimistic about.
As for the defense, I’m not so optimistic. On the first drive yes we did stop the Cowboys. To me that’s nothing new. There were several games last season where we stopped opposing teams on their 1st drives.
It’s that second drive that scares the piss out of me. Regardless of whether it was misdirection or not, that doesn’t change the fact that Dallas ran the ball to put them in a position to score a TD. That is NOT OK! Whether it was finesse or power, the end result was the same, RUSHING YARDS AGAINST OUR DEFENSE.
On 3rd and goal we saw that same rush 3 people crap. We DO NOT have the personnel on defense to RUSH 3 PEOPLE in those types of situations. It’s the same crap we saw last year and it costs us over and over again.
If the QB has all day to throw the ball, I don’t care how good the secondary is, he will find someone open.
I understand your optimism Priest, and I share your view on certain aspects, but we have to call it like we see it. The real optimism I have is that Marshall was just practicing coverage schemes with the defense, and was not trying to tip his hat by revealing all of our rush and pressure schemes during the first game of the preseason.
August 15th, 2009 at 11:39 pm
team looks good but the first team “D” need some work,they gave up to many yard to the cowgirls.
August 15th, 2009 at 11:43 pm
Jhill the bottom line is that our 1’s vs their 1’s did not show any SIGNIFICANT improvement in the areas of stopping the run OR sufficiently pressuring the QB. Romo had all day to throw that game.
The one sack we got was on the backup QB.
August 15th, 2009 at 11:47 pm
Not true, Kush.
That 2nd drive, Nnamdi was out and EVERY positive play went to that side. The reverse would’ve never happened, the defensive holding against Routt on Williams, that long out to Williams in front of Routt, and their TE beating Routt for a TD WHILE ROMO WAS BEING SACKED.
Did you also miss the blitz on the first series that forced Romo to throw it away ?
August 16th, 2009 at 12:04 am
Kush, they had 6 drives in the 2st half and we shut them down 5 of them with a pick by Huff. That is a very talented team we played and we kicked their ass…………period. They got off on that drive do to misdirection in a preseason game. That is not the Dallas style They couldn’t just line up and run at us with great backs. IMO that is a win. Inthe 2nd half they had to throw wo move the ball and they had all kinds of pressure forcing them out of the pcket and forcing checkdowns on 3rd and long for next to zero yards. They got and interference call at the 5 yard lind and could score on 4 downs against our 3rd team defense.
In the 1st half Warren drew 8 double teams and sands 5 on a mix of runs and pass. They couldn’t run on us except for one missed tackle in the hole by Rickey Brown.
Kush check their stats vs our run defense in the 1st half I don’t know what they were but I gaurantee yu they sucked in comparison. hey had a total of 100 yards total offense in the 1st half.
That’s one drive in 6 tries and you have the nerve to complain? After the last few years are you kidding me?. We shut down the pass and the run on a SB calibre team. And shve them all over the field with our offense check our run stats in the 1st half. We ran 5 RB’s all had success go back and watch the Oline on the drive when Rankin scored it was a thing of beauty.
It was NO CONTEST……………..period
August 16th, 2009 at 12:05 am
They had 6 drives in the 1st half sorry!! and we shut them down on 5 of them.
August 16th, 2009 at 12:07 am
Listen any cach in his right mind that’s taken a team as bad as we’ve been rough up the cowboy’s preaseason or no is a statement………….period
August 16th, 2009 at 12:17 am
This team that I just watched is soo far advanced over any I’ve seen at this stage of the season it’s not even worth mentioning. This Raider team is very powerful and the defense is different no question.
The Dallas Cowboy’s came into Oakland and could only mount one drive worth talking about.
Now just smoke that over for a few seconds.
On the other hand Oakland had 4 long scoring drives against their defense mostly running.
460 yards for Raiders to 261 for Dallas. That’s 200 more yards. Think about it. Last year we didn’t even have an offense.
August 16th, 2009 at 12:34 am
I see no reason, other than stopping the run, why we can’t beat the Chargers opening night. Shore up the run D and we win. Rivers will be challenged by our secondary. They look vulnerable to me. LT is a step slower no doubt.
August 16th, 2009 at 12:34 am
Priest and J Hill, I see where you both are coming from.
In addition it is difficult to gauge a true assessment when we’re not watching our 1’s out there. I agree, that misdirection would have never happened with Nnamdi out there. So I’ll hold my opinion on the run defense for now and watch to see how we develop over the next few weeks. Morrisson IS NOT the answer at middle linebacker IMO.
As far as the pass rush, I still feel the same way. A three man rush on 3rd and goal is unacceptable and woefully reminiscent of last year.
People accused our defense of not blitzing last year. That wasn’t exactly true. We just didn’t call them at the right times. That TD pass to Whitten made me sick to my syomach because Romo had all night to throw the ball. That is NOT OK and that needs to be corrected immediately.
August 16th, 2009 at 12:35 am
KC and Denver are more vulnerable than ever. Our time has come…
August 16th, 2009 at 12:37 am
The Quarterback Must Go Down, And Go Down Hard.”
Not with our 3 man rush he won’t.
August 16th, 2009 at 12:40 am
One thing is obvious after week one of the preseason…
Rob Ryan’s defense can’t stop the run in Cleveland either. a 24-0 spanking at the hands of the Packers. I’m so glad we got rid of that poor excuse for a defensive coordinator.
August 16th, 2009 at 12:43 am
If he 2 QB’s play the way they did against Dalas when we hey play SF, Garcia will retire. Garcia’s feelings are hurt much worse than his leg.
He came to camp running his mouth and saw Russell’s arm and hasn’t been the same since. Now these two guy’s are playinmg lights out. Next thing you know he has family business.
Yeah right, he needs a shoulder to cry on because he sees the writing on the wall. They are all biggger stronger more competitive younger and just flat out more talented than he is…………period
Garcia here’s a memo ; you aren’t good enough, stay home and save yourself the embarrassment of getting cut.
Adios……….hey Kush nice try, but this a slight to you or anyone else. However if y’all are going to cmplain when we blow out playoff calibre teams. You’ll never be happy.
Don’t sweat the small stuff. We are on our way……..period
August 16th, 2009 at 12:48 am
One play and you’re ready to fire the guy.
The call was sound, the execution was poor look at the film. The corner dropped the coverage and the QB was about to be sacked. He was trying to surprise the QB but we didn’t execute anyway they should learn from that.
Hey you watch the 49ers will try to pick on Routt and pay dearly, he had a bad game. He’ll play better next time out watch.
I’m really tired, Adios!!
August 16th, 2009 at 3:11 am
If he dislocated his shoulder, there is a pretty good chance he tore the rotator cuff or the labrum, or some other internal damage to his shoulder. Don’t be surprised to find out that he is going on IR this week.
August 16th, 2009 at 3:34 am
Everyone knows football is like the weather, or the stock market, or the economy or any recurring event. The drought is about to end, we are approaching a bull market, the stimulus package is working. Besides the AFC west is up for grabs. Norv should complete his mission to revert S.D. to there gory days. K.C. and Denver are in flux. The Raiders are looking better.
You have to give credit to Al for Loyalty. How many years did he sacrifice in the name of loyalty to keep Rob Ryan. Practically everyone on this blog( and the NFL) new Rob is a loser. I am sure Al did to. How could he not? So it had to be loyalty that Al let him stay here. Anyway, I am glad he is gone too!
Stanford Rout is an x 49er. I wish he were a current 49er. They are going to capitalize on what they know about Rout – Rout’s the go-to guy. Watch. We will still beat the ladies on the other side of the bay but Rout will get toasted at least two times.
August 16th, 2009 at 4:21 am
Stanford Routt was selected by the Raiders in the second round (38th overall) of the 2005 NFL Draft.
if he was ever a 49er… it was the other night, ’cause he sure was playing for the raiders…
August 16th, 2009 at 4:22 am
wasn’t… wasn’t playing for the raiders…
i should go back to bed…
August 16th, 2009 at 4:46 am
Mario is hard….truth
51.lefty12 Says:
August 15th, 2009 at 10:05 pm
Priestas i mentioned the other day,everyone wants Green gone but we keep bringing in players to compete against him and try an put him on the bench,but he is still there-nobody can beat him out.
Good Morning NATION!!!
Like I said we have finished in the top 10 in the nfl since Broom-Handle Green came 2 town.When we stomped the Bucs and Bush got all the glory no-one seemed 2 realize which side of the line Bush was running through…Thats right Green’s side.And no-one seems 2 realize it was Fargas who brutalized the Bucs front 4 for 2.5 quarters,softening them up.All should B happy we got a very good O-line with good veterns and young guys that can come right in and not miss a beat.Its coming together weather some realize it or dont want 2 realize it…Is there room 4 improvment,SURE,but it looks 2 me “other” teams have a lot more room 4 improvment…Drink it up cause it’a NEVER gonna taste better guys…Oakland Raiders AFC West Champions 4 2009
August 16th, 2009 at 4:51 am
AND…No-one seemed 2 notice that Raider favorite Johnnie Lee Higgans is startung 2 hold 4 field goals!!!Can everyone see what that means.On a fake field-goal NOBODY is gonna catch him!!!How dare anyone even think of trading 1 of our high-light reels.Johnnie Lee IS the future of da Raiders,imo
August 16th, 2009 at 4:55 am
I feel better now =)
August 16th, 2009 at 5:05 am
i would trade Higgins straight up for Jaspar Brinkley…
now allow me to duck behind my couch to avoid all those things people will start throwing at me…
August 16th, 2009 at 5:10 am
Sir”Doesn’t Know My Facts” Alot ,,,
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Stanford Rout is an x 49er. I wish he were a current 49er. They are going to capitalize on what they know about Rout – Rout’s the go-to guy. Watch. We will still beat the ladies on the other side of the bay but Rout will get toasted at least two times.
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Dude? What the fuc is wrong with you?
August 16th, 2009 at 5:12 am
Dont worry Pete it’s your opinion and you’re entitled 2 it.Brinkly would shore up our D but Johnnie Lee is gonna score 10 TD’s 4 us this year,imo and he just might score 1 off a fake FG…that would be the schizit,imo =)
August 16th, 2009 at 5:19 am
I think Cable wants that fake FG vs. the squaws back…What better way than 2 have Johnnie Lee taking 1 2 da house!!!
August 16th, 2009 at 5:20 am
Who the hell is this brinkley cat??
August 16th, 2009 at 5:21 am
i’m thinking we are flush at receiver…
can’t let go of HeyBey, Schillens or Murphy…
no-one will take Walker…
no-one else will command any serious market value…
that leaves Higgins as our best trade bait…
i say Higgins, Garcia, and a coupla tackling dummies to the vikings for Brinkley…
August 16th, 2009 at 5:22 am
FUC beakley!!! Lets ride Raider D!!!
August 16th, 2009 at 5:24 am
Brinkley is someone i pegged last december to be a good 4th round pick in the draft… he is a beast MLB… i’ll re-post an article about him…
Florida Pete Says:
August 15th, 2009 at 7:38 pm
Vikings’ rookie Jasper Brinkley just brings it
Rookie linebacker hits ‘with attitude,’ Henderson says
By Rick Alonzo
ralonzo@pioneerpress.com
Updated: 08/09/2009 11:54:56 PM CDT
MANKATO, Minn. — Vikings linebacker Jasper Brinkley pulled up at the last moment during a recent practice, sparing running back Antone Smith from a huge hit.
The Vikings weren’t wearing full pads, so Brinkley had to be careful not to hammer his teammate after he cut through the line into the backfield.
“We can unload on everybody else,” said, Brinkley the hard-hitting rookie linebacker who has raised eyebrows in training camp. “I want to take care of my teammates.”
Brinkley’s full-bore style can be dangerous for others, especially considering his massive frame. He’s listed at 6 feet 1, 252 pounds, which makes him the heaviest linebacker on the Vikings’ roster. He appears bigger and plays bigger, too. Brinkley hits like a dump truck rolling downhill out of control.
That’s a big part of the reason why he already is penciled in as E.J. Henderson’s backup at middle linebacker. Henderson likes Brinkley’s athleticism, instincts and play-making ability.
“And when he gets there, he gets there with attitude,” said Henderson, noting that he hasn’t seen any Vikings rookie hit as hard as Brinkley. “Not at linebacker, not since I came in here.”
If all goes well for the Vikings, Henderson will remain healthy coming off toe surgery and Brinkley won’t be needed much at linebacker this season, although he will likely be used on special teams.
It became clear that NFL teams can never have enough talent and depth at any position last season, when Henderson was sidelined the final 13 games, including the playoffs. His absence forced the Vikings to sign Dontarrious Thomas and Napoleon Harris for the season.
Searching for a better long-term backup, the Vikings drafted Brinkley in the fifth round of the April NFL draft. Defensive coordinator Leslie Frazier immediately made it clear he was expecting Brinkley to fill the backup role.
Brinkley hasn’t let the coaches down. The staff has “water-logged” him with information, and he’s adjusting well. Coach Brad Childress likes the rookie’s instincts.
“I think he’s got very good ’see-to-do,’ ” Childress said. “E.J. is probably the most instinctive. But he’s an instinctive player in there. He processes stuff immediately.
“He’s a good football player.”
Brinkley’s body type isn’t that of a typical rookie. At 24, he’s the oldest member of the team’s five draft picks this year after finishing his college career as a fifth-year senior. He’s more mature physically than is expected from a first-year professional. He was granted a medical redshirt after suffering a season-ending knee injury his junior season.
It took time for Brinkley to drop the weight he had gained after his knee injury. But although he’s still a big man, now he’s in his best shape since his knee injury, a torn lateral collateral ligament in 2007.
When Jasper’s twin brother, Casper, saw him this summer, the change in his muscle tone was obvious.
“I was like, ‘You’ve got abs?’ ” said Casper, a defensive end hoping to the make the Carolina Panthers’ regular-season roster. “I was jealous.”
Jasper moves better than one would expect for a linebacker of his size. During Saturday’s practice, running back Ian Johnson ran around right end, and suddenly Brinkley was right there to meet him at the line of scrimmage.
After watching Brinkley in the offseason and training camp, Henderson likes what he sees.
“Definitely likes the contact,” Henderson said. “Definitely the type of middle linebacker we’re looking for. Definitely think he’ll be a starter in this league sometime soon.”
Exhibition games will reveal much more about Brinkley’s ability, starting with Friday night’s at Indianapolis.
Indications to this point are that the Vikings might have gotten a steal in the draft. Pro Football Weekly’s draft preview guide projected Brinkley as a third- or fourth-round pick. If hadn’t gotten injured in college, he might have gone higher than that.
In his first year at South Carolina, Brinkley led all Southeastern Conference linebackers with 107 tackles, including 14 1/2 for a loss.
Now Brinkley is trying to learn the playbook as fast as he can. For a role model, he needs to look no further than Henderson.
“I feel great playing behind a guy like that,” Brinkley said. “He’s going to be one of the greats to ever put this uniform on. I definitely try to mold my game to be exactly his. I try to imitate everything he does on the field.
August 16th, 2009 at 5:31 am
I’ve seen “brinkly”, “brinkley”, “beakley” , “bi-weekly”, “bye”, and “weak”… Who is this player that you want?
August 16th, 2009 at 5:58 am
I think Manning is a good addition to the team. It is nice to have a CB that can also bring the heat against the run. I’m not sure he has the speed necessary to make the roster, but if he does he will add value to the team. As far as him smacking some guy around at a dennys, so what. The guy is an NFL football player. I expect some anger issues. A kindergarten teacher roughing someone up would concern me. An NFL player who earns a living through violence on the football field that back hands someone isn’t a factor for me when I decide a player’s value. Manning just needs to keep it together enough in his private life not to get suspended.
August 16th, 2009 at 6:08 am
Good Morning Nation.
Pete,
You still taking about JB?!? Take a break! lol
August 16th, 2009 at 6:16 am
Morning Raider O Brother!!!
August 16th, 2009 at 6:16 am
*talking…
August 16th, 2009 at 6:18 am
I think Pete is gonna”appropriate” Brinkley and deliver him 2 Alameda =)
August 16th, 2009 at 6:25 am
Good Morning 4eva.
lol, Pete has been talking about him for 5 months now.
August 16th, 2009 at 6:30 am
What’s up manning was an all-valley qb here Fresno and was awesome at UCLA and was a ballhawk for panthers 3 int in 1 playoff game thank you so I hope he makes the squad and who knows move Routt to Safety. No fargas didn’t brutalize nobody come on , so slow to the hole and scares nobody but Raider fans.
August 16th, 2009 at 6:32 am
If we give Rivers all day he will throw for 300+yrd come on pass rush db can’t cover all day and only 1 Nhamdi out their.
August 16th, 2009 at 6:34 am
Pete just wants us to stop the run everyone just thinks,ok new d coord so it was all ryans fault not any of the players fault. Has bhp ever not thought the team looked awesome
August 16th, 2009 at 6:39 am
Never said a new scheme would solve all out run-D problems,I always have said I think we need Better DT’s,but the organization thinks it was DE’s.It’s 2 early 2 tell,I favor giving Marshall time.And at the half-way point in the 3rd quarter vs. Bucs,their D-line was beat-up and Bush came in and cleaned up,off of Greens side
August 16th, 2009 at 6:40 am
BHP,
You know how much I respect you and your opinions, but I disagree about the D. Especially the Run Defense. Let me tell you what I saw:
1- T Scott can’t hold the edge, but can learn with more time. Also he is our pass Rusher!
2- Our DTs penetrated well, but didn’t hold the point.
3- We don’t have a true MLB.
4- CJ and Stanford didn’t play well.
August 16th, 2009 at 6:44 am
I thought the Ss and OLBs played well, and so did Jay & Matt S.
We need a strong DT that can hold the point, demand Double teams and still hold the point, so we can have TK and our DEs create problems in the backfield. IMHO
August 16th, 2009 at 6:45 am
I always thought T.Kelly should have been a DE
August 16th, 2009 at 6:48 am
I think TK can get us 8+ sacks a year, if he had a great DT playing next to him.
He had 4 last year, and he was still recovering.
I just think He can’t handle double teams. Same with Warren, but both of them can rush the passer.
We need a Run Stuffer like Ted W and Adams.
August 16th, 2009 at 6:50 am
If we do that, then maybe Kirk can have more time to react and make the play.
August 16th, 2009 at 6:55 am
I just dont think Kirk is a true MLB,move him outside and “appropriate” a real MLB =).Have Pete help on the MLB =)
August 16th, 2009 at 6:59 am
4eva,
I think Pete is in Minn now, and he is working on it! lol
August 16th, 2009 at 7:01 am
Southwick is related to BSJ, and I think Pete is JB’s manager.
August 16th, 2009 at 7:02 am
I believe you are correct Raider O lol
August 16th, 2009 at 7:18 am
4eva,
I’ll be back later, have a great day.
Later Nation.
August 16th, 2009 at 7:22 am
U2 Raider O
August 16th, 2009 at 7:35 am
J Russell should be staying around after practice. His deep ball is horrible….I repeat…J RUSSELL’s deep ball sucks! C’mon man get your a$$ to work so we can hit those long strikes and stretch that D out!!!
” A good half hour to 45 minutes after practice ended, quarterback Charlie Frye was by himself on one of the fields, throwing deep balls to a member of the support staff.”
August 16th, 2009 at 7:40 am
What Schilens showed at the end of last year was no fluke we know this now. This kid is for real!
Now we know Kiffin held 2 studs back last year…Mario Henderson & Chaz Schilens.
August 16th, 2009 at 7:42 am
Find a spot for Rankin? Very simple you deal Fargas for anything you can get & keep this kid as your 3rd RB. NO QUESTION!
BUSH, DMAC, RANKIN
August 16th, 2009 at 7:44 am
Rankin sux ansd will be out of the league in 2 years.
Mista Brown, you must have missed this Tweet from Jerry Mac:
” For about 45 minutes after practice Jamarcus Russell was on the field practicing dunking donuts with a member of the training staff.”
August 16th, 2009 at 7:46 am
Allright a QB who will work over-time is always a welcome sign,imo
August 16th, 2009 at 7:47 am
Marshall is not going to show his cards in the pre-season and I expect it will take 3 to 4 games before the defense gels in this new scheme but we are going to be better I can see that.
August 16th, 2009 at 7:48 am
Ron its too early for jokes my coffee isnt even done brewing for fuk sakes.
August 16th, 2009 at 7:48 am
Nation, what is UP???????
IF Rankin is put on the practice squad he would not last an hour before he is picked up.
Rankin should be our 3rd back.
Package walker, garcia and fargas to who ever….
August 16th, 2009 at 7:49 am
Too bad it wasnt our starting Qb huh 4eva ?
August 16th, 2009 at 7:53 am
Rankin was on the practice squad all year last year and no one picked him up. WTF are you even talking about? After one preseason game all the sudden Charlie Frye and Gradkowski are better QBs than Garcia? LOL. Gotta love Raider fan!
August 16th, 2009 at 7:53 am
I dunno;This most likly will B Fargas’ last year.We got Rankin from the Huskies who broke all the rushing records at Washington.And if anyone is silly enough 2 say Rankin sux,well you must think Napolean Kaufman suxed.Kaufman was 1 of our BEST BACKS EVER and 1 of my favorite Raiders.Napolean “take it 2 da house” Kaufman, was da BOMB,imo
August 16th, 2009 at 7:53 am
JRUSS should be the first one on the field and the last to leave.
August 16th, 2009 at 7:54 am
Thec you are right even last year Rankin had a nice pre-season we’re lucky to have kept him this far. He will not go on the practice squad. If he does Cable needs to pistol whipped with AL’s dirty draws.
I guarantee that TD run he had Fargas would have not made it in. The love Fargas gets in here is crazy I dont know what those people are looking at.
August 16th, 2009 at 7:55 am
Mistabrown Says:
August 16th, 2009 at 7:49 am
Too bad it wasnt our starting Qb huh 4eva ?
Man MistaBrown,I dont know what it’s gonna take.I guess 30 mil isnt enough incentive.
August 16th, 2009 at 7:57 am
Ron he made it through waivers its not like teams had the whole year to grab him!
August 16th, 2009 at 7:58 am
RaiderRon Says:
August 16th, 2009 at 7:53 am
Rankin was on the practice squad all year last year and no one picked him up. WTF are you even talking about? After one preseason game all the sudden Charlie Frye and Gradkowski are better QBs than Garcia? LOL. Gotta love Raider fan!
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WTF are you talking about?
First of all You know S#!T about RANKIN. He was on he practice squad what else???????
Okay smart guy since you have it all dialed it..LOL… who would you say are the best 3 RB’s on this team. I hope you answer this one correctly laughter will follow.
Garcia is hurt and wont make the field will probable be cut. Old weakest are on the team, and if you havent noticed this offense is not dink in dunk, but you being a “professional blogger” and all would know that
right???
August 16th, 2009 at 8:04 am
Pray tell, what “records” did Rankin break at UW?
The best rbs on the Raiders? Tough one. I think it would be easier to name the worst, that would be Rankin. Hes not even third team, Russell is. Louis Rankin is not an NFL RB. All he is is stright line fast, thats it thats all.
August 16th, 2009 at 8:04 am
Thec07 Says:
August 16th, 2009 at 7:53 am
JRUSS should be the first one on the field and the last to leave.
I WHOLE-HEARTEDLY 2ND THAT
August 16th, 2009 at 8:06 am
Yep, Charlie Frye and Bruce Gradkowksi have CANNONS!! LOL. Wow, it only gets better around here.
August 16th, 2009 at 8:07 am
Priest was in here last night creaming his jeans but not 1 word about Russells sorry deep ball or Frye working after practice and not his “boy” Russell.
August 16th, 2009 at 8:08 am
I think it is pretty obvious that Garcia has about 4 weeks to EARN his roster spot, because he shouldn’t just be handed one.
I think, and this is just my opinion, he wants the opportunity to compete for a starting job, and he may ask AL to release him, rather than keep him on as a backup or maybe a 3rd stringer.
August 16th, 2009 at 8:09 am
Russell has zero touch on his deep ball and is an unmotivated slob. Its sickening that Charlie Freakn Frye out works his lazy ass.
August 16th, 2009 at 8:09 am
Garcia isn’t going to be here. We should have signed Vick.
A team full of CBs…good one Norco Bob!
Slade for MLB! When was the last time Morrison blew up a running back?
Fargas for the waiver wire. Would any other team keep this guy?
August 16th, 2009 at 8:09 am
RaiderRon Says:
August 16th, 2009 at 8:04 am
Pray tell, what “records” did Rankin break at UW?
The best rbs on the Raiders? Tough one. I think it would be easier to name the worst, that would be Rankin. Hes not even third team, Russell is. Louis Rankin is not an NFL RB. All he is is stright line fast, thats it thats all.
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Wow cant even get a straight answer to a simple question. wat to man up…….
I like your comments though they are very telling. So your saying that RANKIN is a “straight Line” runner.
So may I ask you a question, WHAT THE HELL IS FARGAS???
RANKIN has way more swivel, and better vision than fargas.
Wonder mow many LOL’s we see from you comments…
August 16th, 2009 at 8:11 am
I would like to thank Josh McDaniels for blowing up the Broncos. Actually the entire AFC West owes Josh a BIG THANKS! Kyle Orton?? Who wants to see Cutler twice a year when you can have Kyle Orton slingin INT’s. Bringing Lamont Jordan with you from NE was also a shrewd move Josh!
August 16th, 2009 at 8:12 am
Does anyone else get the feeling that this could be a setup for another trick play? God, I hope not.
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“– Higgins stepped in as the holder in place of Shane Lechler on a couple of field goal attempts by Ricky Schmitt.”
August 16th, 2009 at 8:13 am
Mistabrown Says:
August 16th, 2009 at 8:11 am
I would like to thank Josh McDaniels for blowing up the Broncos. Actually the entire AFC West owes Josh a BIG THANKS! Kyle Orton?? Who wants to see Cutler twice a year when you can have Kyle Orton slingin INT’s. Bringing Lamont Jordan with you from NE was also a shrewd move Josh!
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This will be the biggest debacle this year. No way they should have been trying to get rid of cutler.
F the donkeys, and all the horses they ride…
August 16th, 2009 at 8:13 am
And what’s up with Florida Pete, usually one of the more solid posters on here, saying we should cut Ike and “nobody will pick him up”? HUH???
The guy was selected by his peers as the best special teams player in his conference. He is one of the best, if not THE best, in the whole league at covering kickoffs. If we cut him during breakfast, he would have a new contract before dinner.
August 16th, 2009 at 8:13 am
Rankin’s Career Statistics
RUSHING G Att Yds TD Lg Avg/C Avg/G
2004……………. 8 9 35 0 9 3.9 4.4
2005……………. 7 104 485 1 49 4.7 69.3
2006……………. 12 142 666 4 77 4.7 55.5
2007……………. 13 233 1294 6 47 5.6 99.5
TOTAL…………… 40 488 2480 11 77 5.1 62.0
August 16th, 2009 at 8:13 am
DMAC, Fargas and Bush are the top backs on this team followed by Russell. Rankin has nothing but sprinter speed, he dznt have vision, or power or “swivel”. You dont know what the hell your talking about. For you to say he is better than Fargas makes you an ignorant fool. Why wasnt Rankin drafted there tough guy?
August 16th, 2009 at 8:14 am
4 eva,
What records did he break?
August 16th, 2009 at 8:17 am
4evaRaider Says:
August 16th, 2009 at 4:51 am
AND…No-one seemed 2 notice that Raider favorite Johnnie Lee Higgans is startung 2 hold 4 field goals!!!Can everyone see what that means.On a fake field-goal NOBODY is gonna catch him!!!How dare anyone even think of trading 1 of our high-light reels.Johnnie Lee IS the future of da Raiders,imo
August 16th, 2009 at 8:17 am
RaiderRon Says:
August 16th, 2009 at 8:13 am
DMAC, Fargas and Bush are the top backs on this team followed by Russell. Rankin has nothing but sprinter speed, he dznt have vision, or power or “swivel”. You dont know what the hell your talking about. For you to say he is better than Fargas makes you an ignorant fool. Why wasnt Rankin drafted there tough guy?
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How many players go undrafted that make it in this league “tough guy”. You must be fargas agent.
the runs Rankin makes fargas could never make. You must wear glassy, have the numbers mixed up, are just plain crazy.
RANKIN>fargas…….
August 16th, 2009 at 8:18 am
1294 yardes single season rushing leader in Huskie history
August 16th, 2009 at 8:19 am
What “runs”? LOL
Seriously, WHY wasnt Rankin drafted??
August 16th, 2009 at 8:19 am
DMAC
MBUSH
RANKIN
Trade fargas to the las vegas ufl team for a couple of slot machine….
August 16th, 2009 at 8:20 am
Louis Rankin’s uncle is former NFL receiver Webster Slaughter. Slaughter played for five teams in the NFL from 1986-98.
2007: Had, by nearly any measure, the best season by a Husky tailback since 1997 … became the first 1,000-yard rusher at Washington since Rashaan Shehee in 1997, passing the 1,000-yard mark in the season’s 11th game (thus not benefitting from the extra games to pass the milestone) … earned second-team All-Pac-10 … named team’s MVP (as voted by his teammates) and was a team captain … 1,294 yards ranked fifth in UW history … only third UW runner ever to post two 200-yard games in a career (both of them came in 2007 season) … 2,396 all-purpose yds. ranked second in UW history … ranks second in Pac-10 in all-purpose yards, fourth in rushing and sixth in kick returns … rushed for 72 yards on 23 carries vs. Washington State, when he also had 89-yard TD on opening kickoff return … rushed for 224 yards on 21 carries vs. California, the eighth-highest single-game total in UW history … had a career game at Stanford, rushing for 255 yards and one touchdown on 36 carries … 255 yards were fourth-most in UW single-game history while 36 carries tied for fourth … 20 carries for 60 yards at Oregon St. … great game at Syracuse: 17 carries, 147 yards and 3 touchdowns … scored on runs of 13, 47 and 20 yards vs. Orange … posted 100 or more yards in the season opener in third straight season … 17 carries for 45 yards vs. Boise State, when he also passed for a 16-yard TD … 11 carries for 80 yards with 147 yards on kickoff returns at Arizona State … 73 yards on 11 carries and a 43-yard TD reception vs. Oregon … 16 carries for 70 yards rushing and four receptions for 35 yards and a touchdown receiving vs. Arizona … named the Pac-10 Player of the Week after the Stanford and Cal games … named the UW’s offensive team MVP after four times (Syracuse, Arizona State, Stanford, Cal) and the special teams MVP after the Ohio State and Washington State games … invited to participate in the Texas vs. the Nation All-Star Challenge … finalist for the Seattle Post-Intelligencer Sports Star of the Year Award.
August 16th, 2009 at 8:21 am
4 eva,
Wrong. Try again. What records did he break?
August 16th, 2009 at 8:21 am
Ron,
Honestlty I dont want to keep this circle jerk going with you. You have your opinion I have mine. Apparently you didnt watch the game, nor do you have any knowledge about Rankin that is apparent.
Rankin>fargas
August 16th, 2009 at 8:22 am
We won’t know what Rankin has, until he gets some run with a first-team unit. We can’t put too much into his 4th quarter pre-season games. But don’t get me wrong, if Rankin were to get that opportunity, which I don’t think he will, I believe he would be a better pass-catcher and open-field runner than Fargas, but that’s not all the RB position is.
August 16th, 2009 at 8:22 am
Ok ron I was mistaken and I can admit it.But 2 say Rankin sux is pure bullsh!t,can you admit that???
August 16th, 2009 at 8:22 am
Thec,
Lol. Why wasnt he drafted? What “runs” are you talking about?
August 16th, 2009 at 8:24 am
No. He does suck. He was ok in college, he isnt a pro runner and thats why he went undrafted and is now traing camp fodder. Hell he was the fourth guy to get carries on Thursday. That REALLY bodes well for him! LOL!
August 16th, 2009 at 8:25 am
he was the 1st 1000 yd rusher since 1997.Is that better ron???Do you feel like your bumb-azz has scored a point or something childish like that??? O-boy I was finally right wheee
August 16th, 2009 at 8:25 am
Ron, maybe you’re right Rankin is nothing special. But when you put him next to Fargas he really shines. Having said that I would eat Fargas contract & cut him before letting Rankin walk.
August 16th, 2009 at 8:26 am
Like I told you a week ago ron go back 2 your gay-side of the bay
August 16th, 2009 at 8:27 am
I watched the game. Since your so versed in Louis Rankin knowledge, not sure how since hes never played an NFL game, why dont you tell me? Again I ask, what runs? Why wasnt he drafted? If you dont answer thats fine, it will only confirm what I already suspected, that you dont know your ass from a hole in the wall.
August 16th, 2009 at 8:27 am
RaiderRon Says:
August 16th, 2009 at 7:53 am
Rankin was on the practice squad all year last year and no one picked him up. WTF are you even talking about? After one preseason game all the sudden Charlie Frye and Gradkowski are better QBs than Garcia? LOL. Gotta love Raider fan!
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I like how “so called” raider fans put down other raider fans in third person. You are fringe and nothing more. you should switch to the niners sounds more like your whinny little speed. Leave football talk for those that are real NATION members.
Ron,
Since you like “big talk” lets put a wager on it????
1. IF Rankin doesnt make the team and makes the practice squad he is picked off by some other team.
Since you say he sux put your money up “tough guy”….
I would also bet when he does get on another team he out performs your client fargas.
Fagas has more vision and swivel than RANKIN…ROFLMAO
Ofh thats why he has the name crash test dummy..LOL
So put up or shut the hell up “tough guy”
August 16th, 2009 at 8:29 am
4 eva,
Sux when someone is on here that can blow up all your BS that you write dznt it? Why let the truth get in the way of a good story, right??
August 16th, 2009 at 8:30 am
Yep ron is a “fringe” poster at best hahahahahahahahahahhahahahahaaaaaaaaahahahahahahahhaahahahahahahahahaaaaaaahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahaha
August 16th, 2009 at 8:30 am
Interesting that the Charger fans are starting to see our team as their biggest competitor in the AFC West:
http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=102&f=1918&t=4592474
August 16th, 2009 at 8:31 am
After seeing the other QBs in our division I wonder(but know) why JR catches so much flack. Those NFL annoucers who say JR is 300lbs must be eating their ties once JR ran for that first scramble. Did he look anything but 260lbs? If he was 300, how the f$ck did he slip by 2-3 defenders so easily? Seeing Cutler, Cassel, & Orton (I realise it’s preseason) JR is a probowler.!!! lol I love it, Cutler looked like a freshman.lol Of course we’ll wait for the season but I’m pretty happy with what we have. Garcia? He might not get on the field by the time the season is over. Al wants Garcia on his team so that should be the end of that conversation. STOP THE RUN!!!
August 16th, 2009 at 8:31 am
RaiderRon Says:
August 16th, 2009 at 8:27 am
I watched the game. Since your so versed in Louis Rankin knowledge, not sure how since hes never played an NFL game, why dont you tell me? Again I ask, what runs? Why wasnt he drafted? If you dont answer thats fine, it will only confirm what I already suspected, that you dont know your ass from a hole in the wall.
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Proves my point whats your real name oh i can loo up fargas agent name. That will be your name from now on… You are making yourself look more and more crazy by saying your client “crash test dummy” has better vision, and swivel that RANKIN… I understand you being his agent and trying to keep him working but man you are funny and reaching….
August 16th, 2009 at 8:32 am
I will bet as soon as you answer the simple questions I posed. Fact is you cant because you dont know sheet about Rankin, all your doing is falling in line with the rest of the “Fargas sux” idiots. You come on here and make rediculous comments and cant back up a single one.
1) What runs?
2) Why wasnt Rankin drafted?
August 16th, 2009 at 8:33 am
Hang on 2 that 1 mistake I made ron take it home and bronze it.Its obvious you hold ME in such HIGH-ESTEEM that you will keep on posting my 1 error as a trophy.I guess I got fans everywhere
August 16th, 2009 at 8:33 am
ron, I we poll this question, you get laughed out the blog……
RANKIN or Fargas????????
ROFLMAO at you and your client…..
Crash test dummy???????
August 16th, 2009 at 8:33 am
Ron,
Gary Russell played and didnt look half as good as Rankin. Russell scored a TD in the SB as a member of the Steelers.
Explain..
August 16th, 2009 at 8:35 am
RaiderRon Says:
August 16th, 2009 at 8:32 am
I will bet as soon as you answer the simple questions I posed. Fact is you cant because you dont know sheet about Rankin, all your doing is falling in line with the rest of the “Fargas sux” idiots. You come on here and make rediculous comments and cant back up a single one.
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Never said fargas sux dimwit. read my post…
Just said rankin is a superior runner with better vision, and swivel. your client “crash test dummy” would ru into a brick wall on the field if he could. He wont even last a full season in silver and black.
August 16th, 2009 at 8:35 am
Umm..explain what?
Thec,
No answers??
August 16th, 2009 at 8:36 am
Gradkowski throws a better deep ball than Russell! Nice pass to Miller in the 3rd quarter.
Pathetic.
August 16th, 2009 at 8:36 am
How many NFL carries does Rankin have?
August 16th, 2009 at 8:36 am
Ron,
And you cant bet so we are even. We can stop the circle jerk anytime you want. I will still keep my opinion…
RANKIN > fargas
August 16th, 2009 at 8:37 am
Morning All,
IMHO,Cable is using misdirect on our RB’s and QB’s. First of all, SD is game one. Anyone think that Fargus is really going to start unless there is a bad injury? When asked if Garcia was assessing his future in football or with the Raiders, Cable said, “no, no. Nothing like that at all.’’ He said Cable could be back Sunday and hoped he would participate on some level on the field this week. Ya right. Garcia is history. An aging cronically injured QB.
August 16th, 2009 at 8:39 am
Your argument is that Rankin is doing his thing against scrubs. G Russell has SB experience & playing against the same scrubs Rankin is. Yet Rankin looks real nice! Kinda defeats your argument a little..
August 16th, 2009 at 8:39 am
true NATION members i do have to leave now.
ron nite now…
August 16th, 2009 at 8:39 am
What was my argument Brown?
August 16th, 2009 at 8:40 am
Thec,
I am ready to bet as soon as you answer the simple questions. Go ahead, I will wait.
August 16th, 2009 at 8:42 am
We know what Fargas brings to the table and its not very much. Sensible Raider fans have seen enough of Fargas & dont want to see him push out Rankin with a scholarship roster spot. We want the 53 best players, u dig Ron ?
August 16th, 2009 at 8:42 am
Gradkowski has never thrown a consistant deep ball. Short to medium. That is the question mark on his career, Deep ball.
August 16th, 2009 at 8:43 am
Fargas dosent suck I have always admired him.as a matter of fact,as I’ve stated many many times Fargas’ teammates hold him in high esteem also.This is his last year here,I fear,but the future looks bright with Dmac,Bush and Rankin as our HB’s,imo
August 16th, 2009 at 8:47 am
Brown,
Explain to me how Rankin is better. Where is the evidence and real game production?
August 16th, 2009 at 8:53 am
RaiderRon=MR
August 16th, 2009 at 8:54 am
Rankin has better hands if he has ANY at all. He’s younger with more upside. I liked Rankin last year. Like I already said we already know what Fargas brings & Rankin looks to have more skills & upside. Fargas bottomed out the second he was drafted.
August 16th, 2009 at 8:55 am
4eva,
Your just mad because you got called out on your lies. You are a clown who dznt know sheet about umm… ANYTHING! LOL
August 16th, 2009 at 8:57 am
Brown,
So the evidence of Rankin being better is….
Cause I know Fargas can go for a grand and avg over 4 yards per for a NFL season. Cant say the same for Rankin.
August 16th, 2009 at 9:00 am
Yep you caught me in all my “lies” ron good job.I know 1 thing…if you think a mis-statment is a lie,that would explain why EVERYONE here thinks you have your haed up your azz MR
August 16th, 2009 at 9:01 am
Good morning all…
Raiders should go with Charlie Frye and Bruce Gradkowski as the #2 and #3 QBs.
Frye has been a starter in the NFL and is still young enough to have some upside. Gradkowski would be a solid option at the number 3 position.
Garcia is going to retire after this year or leave. I bet he wishes he went to Minnesota.
Frye was a 3rd round pick…QB of the future in Cleveland….and never had a real shot in Seattle. He’s got the arm strength to make the offense work and could be a longer term option should Russell struggle over the next couple of years.
Garcia has a lousy attitude and is a cagey vet. Let him go to a team (Minnesota, Tennessee) where they have Super Bowl caliber rosters and need a competent starter.
August 16th, 2009 at 9:03 am
there you go “lying” again ron Fargas never played an nfl season.He played in 9 games in 2007 and was injured the rest of season.Really ron or mr,you really need 2 stop lying.
August 16th, 2009 at 9:04 am
4 eva,
You came on here and stated somthing as fact despite having no knowledge of said statement. What would you call that? Your a clown, plain and simple. Prove me wrong and break down Louis Rankin for me.
August 16th, 2009 at 9:06 am
Cause I know Fargas can go for a grand and avg over 4 yards per for a NFL season.
LIES LIES LIES.Fargas never averaged 4 yds.4 an nfl season.A season,if you didnt know ron is 16 games not 9,so knock off the lying ron
August 16th, 2009 at 9:07 am
Few points:
Since Cable has already confirmed DMC will get so many touches whether Fargas is listed as the “starter” or not is a mute point. By simple logic, if DMC touches the ball more Fargas touching the ball less no matter how they’re listed on the depth chart.
The next question really becomes at what expense does Fargas’ touches impede Bush.
Truth be told – Fargas seemed to be a better decision maker last year with where to go with the ball. But that’s not exactly saying he is the most talented runner. Just the most experienced. Still I’m sure the Raiders recognize that his playing time comes at the expense of Bush’s (and to a lesser extent McFadden’s) development (experience).
Let me be clear with this as well: Fargas IS a better back than Rankin. Don’t be fooled. Rankin is running against scrubs. Fargas is running against 1st teamers. Fargas would do what Rankin does and more against the camp fodder. You simply cannot extrapolate performance against camp fodder as performance that will repeat itself against 1st teamers. There’s a reason for starters and backups. Lets face it; despite Rankin’s annual preseason performances NO team has rushed to get him yet! Doesn’t that tell you something?
I’m of the belief that the RB depth should be:
Bush/McFadden
Fargas
Rankin (if he makes the active roster ..doubt it)
(Even after not posting since last night I am somehow POSTING TO QUICKLY???!!!!??)
August 16th, 2009 at 9:07 am
Fargas= 14 games in 07. 16 games in 06.
07= 1000+ yards 4.5 yards per carry.
4 eva,
Have you ever eben watched a Raider game?
August 16th, 2009 at 9:08 am
“Eben”??? How about EVEN…
August 16th, 2009 at 9:10 am
Terrapin,
If you flipped Rankin & Fargas playing time you think Fargas would shred scrubs over Rankin?
Please..
August 16th, 2009 at 9:10 am
4 eva,
Man, you really know your stuff!! LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
August 16th, 2009 at 9:11 am
happy 2 oblige ron…anything 2 get you 2 stop all the lying you do
PRO: Explosive back spent majority of 2008 season on the practice squad.
2008: Signed to active roster on 12/13…Inactive for final three games of the season from 12/14-28…Signed by Raiders as an undrafted rookie free agent in May, 2008.
COLLEGE: Totaled 2,480 yards with 11 touchdowns and averaged 5.1 yards per carry in his career at Washington…Also produced 205 receiving yards and two touchdowns…In 2007, totaled 1,294 yards, good for fifth on the Husky record books for season yardage…Named to All-Pac-10 second team…Third Washington running back to have two 200-yard games in a career…Ranked second in Pac-10 in all purpose yards and second in Washington history with 2,396 yards.
PERSONAL: Scored 41 touchdowns as a senior at Lincoln High in Stockton, Calif….Touchdowns are most in school history, second in California and fifth all-time in the San Joaquin Section…Added 2,245 rushing yards as a senior…First team all-state selection by CalHi Sports…Also a member of Lincoln’s basketball and track teams.
August 16th, 2009 at 9:11 am
Brown,
Why do you avoid my questions about Rankin/Fargas?
August 16th, 2009 at 9:13 am
4 eva,
Ummm….. what was that?? Cool bio, not sure what it has to do with anything but…..
August 16th, 2009 at 9:13 am
HIGHLIGHTS
Rushing
Year Team Att Yds Avg Lg TD 1st Downs
2003 Oak 40 203 5.1 53 0 10
2004 Oak 35 126 3.6 15 1 9
2005 Oak 5 28 5.6 15 0 2
2006 Oak 178 659 3.7 48 1 27
2007 Oak 222 1009 4.5 48 4 52
2008 Oak 218 853 3.9 42 1 32
Total 698 2878 4.1 53 7 132
Receiving
Year Team No Yds Avg Lg TD 1st Downs
2003 Oak 2 2 1.0 6 0 0
2004 Oak 11 68 6.2 21 0 3
2005 Oak 1 9 9.0 9 0 0
2006 Oak 13 91 7.0 21 0 3
2007 Oak 23 188 8.2 17 0 11
2008 Oak 10 52 5.2 12 0 2
Total 60 410 6.8 21 0 19
*Courtesy of NFL.COM
PRO: Durable, slashing runner followed a breakout 2007 season by posting solid rushing numbers in 2008…Has played in 80 games with 28 starts through six seasons and has led the Raiders in rushing for three straight years…Has rushed for 2,878 yards and seven touchdowns in six seasons…Has also caught 60 passes for 410 yards…Eclipsed the 1,000 rushing yards plateau for the first time in his career with 1,009 in 2007.
August 16th, 2009 at 9:13 am
Another missive:
DHB is the best pick the Raiders could have made. If he develops properly he’ll be an absolute boon to the team. No doubt about it. It already showed itself vs Dallas. Being able to push the DBs back will make some plays even more deadly (specifically screens or short passes to DMC in the open …nothing but space and opportunity). Simply put, everyone benefits.
August 16th, 2009 at 9:14 am
Priesttj,
Blind optimism is all fine and good. This team has had huge struggles over the last 6 yrs….To sit back and just say everything is swell with no meaningful critiques is for the casual fan.
This team has holes on the defense that all are concerned about. Not just people blogging here….but your local beat writers….and national media…Cable has alluded to having to improve the defense…etc..etc…etc.
This is not just fans complaining about a whole bunch of nothing. The team is thin (read weak) at MLB, SLB, DT and it still appears the RDEs are situational (Scott pass rush, Richardson run defense).
There are few in here that are truly satisfied the Raiders have appropriately addressed those issues. The game against Dallas had that 9 play 71 yds drive that had the frustrations of long-runs with Eugene making TD saving tackles and Romo sitting in absolute comfort looking at all his options.
After the 1st team came off…who cares what happens next. Its about the 1st team. The rest is simply a tryout for players trying to make the team.
Priesttj, this team is not a complete product yet. The good news its still early in the preseason….the bad news is that we basically have the same players on defense that produced those sad results.
Offense looks good though!
August 16th, 2009 at 9:15 am
Anyone with a football or Raider question needs to post at 4eva, he flat knows his stuff!!
August 16th, 2009 at 9:17 am
Dude, its pure logic. If Fargas averages 4ypc against starters its not hard to imagine that average going way up against camp fodder.
August 16th, 2009 at 9:19 am
I guess the Rankin guys are misssing the fact that he is currently running 4th string at RB. 4th string= lucky to make practice squad.
August 16th, 2009 at 9:20 am
Terrapin Says:
August 16th, 2009 at 9:13 am
Another missive:
DHB is the best pick the Raiders could have made. If he develops properly he’ll be an absolute boon to the team. No doubt about it. It already showed itself vs Dallas. Being able to push the DBs back will make some plays even more deadly (specifically screens or short passes to DMC in the open …nothing but space and opportunity). Simply put, everyone benefits
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DHB has potential and was a 1st round talent. So no problems there.
My issue is after drafting DHB…did we also need Louis Murphy? Especially with Chaz Schilens emerging as a potentially good target.
Now we have Schilens, DHB, JLH, Murhpy and Walker. Picking Murphy makes sense if they weren’t convinced Walker would come back….but then you look at the holes on defense and have to ask whether that 4th rounder could have been used on some other areas.
August 16th, 2009 at 9:21 am
RaiderRon Says:
August 16th, 2009 at 9:07 am
Fargas= 14 games in 07. 16 games in 06.
07= 1000+ yards 4.5 yards per carry.
4 eva,
Have you ever eben watched a Raider game?
Yep 4.5 yds in 2007 in 9 games
In 2006 only had 178 carries
So you come in here and state as fact that Fargas averaged 4.5 yards in 2007 is one of the biggest lies EVER perpatratedon this blog.Fargas played in 9,do you see this ron,9 games for 1007 yrds in 9-nine,games.So there is NO-WAY your lies of Fargas averaging 4.5 over an ENTIRE season is correct.You sir are a LIAR and I just proved it.Now ron time 4 a little redemption,prove me wrong on Fargas y.p/c 4 an ENTIRE season with-out ALL YOUR LIES PLEASE
August 16th, 2009 at 9:22 am
perpetrated
August 16th, 2009 at 9:22 am
After watching TScott vs Dallas I’m fast coming to the conclusion that you have to put JRich back in that spot on 1st/2nd downs (or obvious run situations). Granted he was going up against F.Adams, but still, he was getting pancaked by the TE (I believe it was Whitten). He was a major liability out there vs the run. (Against the pass he is good).
Hopefully JRich can come back to form after surgery in short order.
August 16th, 2009 at 9:23 am
I debated with Priest last night about the run defense. I will give it another week to look and see because
1)Dallas has a HUGE offensive line and they DIDN’T manhandle our defense. and
2)Nnamdi wasn’t on the field on that long drive by the Cowgirls.
I strongly believe if Nnamdi was still in instead of Routt, two or three of those Dallas plays would have been unnsuccessful.
Our Pass Rush on the other hand…..SUCKED. There is nothing Priest or anyone else can say to me to convince me that our pass rush with our FIRST TEAM DEFENSE looked good and generated enough pressure on Tony Romo.
I still saw that ridiculous 3 man pass rush again when it is obvious we don’t have the personnel to do so.
Having elite cornerbacks don’t mean squat if the QB has all evening to throw the ball.
August 16th, 2009 at 9:24 am
crickets
August 16th, 2009 at 9:25 am
What I liked about that game. Cable went up top & air’d it out. Thats what pre-season is for. We need to improve on stretching that field especially J Russell. Bey needs those reps before real bullets start flying. Imagine our run game if we can get defenses to respect our passing game!
Props to Cable.
August 16th, 2009 at 9:26 am
Justin Fargas played in 14 games in 07. Justin Fargas avgd 4.5 per carry. Period. End. Those 2 statements ar FACTS.
August 16th, 2009 at 9:27 am
Watch the game Kush, the d got manhandled for a couple of series.
August 16th, 2009 at 9:28 am
14 games IS NOT AN ENTIRE SEASON RON.I said with-out your lies please
August 16th, 2009 at 9:30 am
LOL!! What happened to 9 games? Are you mentally ill?
August 16th, 2009 at 9:30 am
The end.
Im not even mentioning Fargas in here again. Until he is cut, traded, or released.
August 16th, 2009 at 9:31 am
RaiderRon Says:
August 16th, 2009 at 8:57 am
Brown,
So the evidence of Rankin being better is….
Cause I know Fargas can go for a grand and avg over 4 yards per for a NFL season
In your own words ron …
NFL season
August 16th, 2009 at 9:32 am
SnB – Its all debatable. They couldn’t bank on Walker – still can’t ’till he proves it. So they needed to sure up the WR corp and get JR some legit weapons.
Murphy could end up being a steal in the 4th (I think many had him graded higher than that). Too many ‘good’ WRs is not a bad problem to have. Maybe you showcase and trade one for picks or other areas of need. It all works itself out eventually.
DHB may be the key needed to make this whole offensive scheme work.
Not sure who was available in the 4th that at the time we could say would really help us on defense> And I’m talking about a pass rushing/run stopping DE.
August 16th, 2009 at 9:34 am
RaiderRon Says:
August 16th, 2009 at 9:26 am
Justin Fargas played in 14 games in 07. Justin Fargas avgd 4.5 per carry.
Again in your own words ron.You really need 2 stop ALL this lying ron,it’s not good 4 you.Maybe you HAD 2 lie 2 your parents but you dont have to lie here
August 16th, 2009 at 9:34 am
At least Ron will debate like a grown man even if he is on the wrong side of this issue. A nice change of pace to Oakglen’s sociopathic behavior & adolescent name calling.
August 16th, 2009 at 9:37 am
4 eva,
Whered you get 9 games from?
August 16th, 2009 at 9:39 am
Brown,
Oakglenn is the second worst poster on this site. He has no basis for anything he states and goes bezerk if you nail him to the cross on something. OMG he is a tool.
August 16th, 2009 at 9:42 am
When you stop with ALL your lies ron I may field a question from you.But I see MONTHS of therapy 4 you first.After therapy you may be strong enough 4 the answers,then again maybe not =)
August 16th, 2009 at 9:45 am
Let’s be real. Fargus is an average back. Good between the 20’s but has difficulty getting the ball into the endzone as shown by his dive for no gain from the 2 against the Cowgirls. He poses no problems for Def Coor’s. At 30 yrs old, he has peaked. LOL. We have better options. IMHO
August 16th, 2009 at 9:46 am
4 eva,
Wherd you get 9 games?
August 16th, 2009 at 9:47 am
Ok ron,against my better judgement I will say this;
9 games or even 14 games does NOT equal NFL season.I know,I know this comes as a complete surprise 2 you and I hope you are strong enough 2 handle it,I really do.Now run along ron your therapist is waiting
August 16th, 2009 at 9:47 am
He says a trademark of his defenses is that they will bring pressure. Over the past two seasons, he called more than twice as many blitzes in Seattle as former defensive coordinator Rob Ryan called in Oakland.
“If you can’t get enough pressure with your four-man front, then you have to add additional pressure,” Marshall said. “That means bringing one extra guy or two extra guys or emptying the post and bringing everybody.”
Starting to think Marshall is just tryin to show Mr. Davis what works, doesn’t work and what we need before the season starts. Like rushing 3 at the goal line, doesn’t sound like a staple of a Marshall D. Of course I could just be letting my optimism run wild.
August 16th, 2009 at 9:48 am
Ok, we will split hairs and not call 14 games a season. Well done you got me.
Whered you get 9 games?
August 16th, 2009 at 9:50 am
Attention everyone….
Justin Fargas avgd 4.5 and went over a grand in 14 games in 2007. I called it a season earlier and would like to apologize for such an agregious error. He did in fact miss 2 games.
August 16th, 2009 at 9:53 am
Terrapin Says:
August 16th, 2009 at 9:32 am
Too many ‘good’ WRs is not a bad problem to have. Maybe you showcase and trade one for picks or other areas of need. It all works itself out eventually.
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But what happens when you don’t have enough “good” linebackers and defensive tackles?
August 16th, 2009 at 9:54 am
“Too many good recievers” Thats comedy.
August 16th, 2009 at 9:54 am
Sadly ron I am no longer 2 field questions from you in your fragile state of mind,which comes from years of lying.You are not strong enough 4 the truth.This will come along slowly,so in your best interest I am no longer able 2 field questions from a mind in the balance of lies and truth
August 16th, 2009 at 9:55 am
Justin Fargas was a 3rd string RB up until LaMont Jordon got hurt. What really set Fargas back was playing behind Amos Zeroue, LaMont and others….he should have been put out there earlier so that he could develop.
He’s a very average running back right now. Not too good and not too bad…just average.
DMAC/Bush have flashed greatness in their brief stints.
Do you want to win or have another feel good story?
August 16th, 2009 at 9:55 am
Kind of what I thought 4 eva, kind of what I thought.
August 16th, 2009 at 9:57 am
ALL 3 BACKS WILL HAVE TO CONTRIBUTE FOR THE OFFENSE TO BE GOOD. That is the unmitigated bottom line truth.
August 16th, 2009 at 9:57 am
RaiderRon Says:
August 16th, 2009 at 9:50 am
Attention everyone….
Justin Fargas avgd 4.5 and went over a grand in 14 games in 2007. I called it a season earlier and would like to apologize for such an agregious error. He did in fact miss 2 games.
These are what YOU would call lies ron,remember ron???See I told you I shouldnt field anymore of your questions because you still cant tell the difference between lies and truth,reality from mfantsy
August 16th, 2009 at 9:58 am
From David White’s Twitter account:
Too much of the same ole’ from the Raiders’ run defense. Time to some more “teaching intensive work. http://bit.ly/XaPDm
9:01 AM Aug 15th from web
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This concern about the run defense is not something I manufactured over the offseason.
Its a real concern to “unbiased” observers.
August 16th, 2009 at 9:58 am
fantasy
August 16th, 2009 at 9:58 am
RaiderRon Says:
August 16th, 2009 at 9:57 am
ALL 3 BACKS WILL HAVE TO CONTRIBUTE FOR THE OFFENSE TO BE GOOD. That is the unmitigated bottom line truth.
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How many carries do you forecast each running back getting per game?
August 16th, 2009 at 10:00 am
when you do it ron you call them errors,when other people do it YOU call it lies.MONTHS AND MONTHS of therapy will help you ron
August 16th, 2009 at 10:01 am
DMAC= 16 or 17 carries. 3 or 4 catches
Fargas= 15 carries. 0 catches
Bush= 6 or 7 carries. 1 or 2 catches.
August 16th, 2009 at 10:02 am
I and most sane people would consider 14 games a season. All your trying to do is mask your ignorance.
August 16th, 2009 at 10:03 am
RaiderRon Says:
August 16th, 2009 at 9:57 am
ALL 3 BACKS WILL HAVE TO CONTRIBUTE FOR THE OFFENSE TO BE GOOD. That is the unmitigated bottom line truth.
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I hope Fargus’s contibution is being the best team player he can be offering McFadden and Bush praise and motivation as they come off the field after scoring. LMFAO
August 16th, 2009 at 10:04 am
Not to get into your petty argument but 16 games is a whole season.
August 16th, 2009 at 10:04 am
those are ALL lies ron
August 16th, 2009 at 10:05 am
RaiderRon Says:
August 16th, 2009 at 10:01 am
DMAC= 16 or 17 carries. 3 or 4 catches
Fargas= 15 carries. 0 catches
Bush= 6 or 7 carries. 1 or 2 catches.
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That’s almost 40 rushes a game. With a team running about 55 to 60 plays a game…that means only 20 to 25 throws a game.
I think the Raiders will be averaging 25 to 30 throws a game.
Also, does it make any sense to give Bush 6 or 7 carries spread out over 4QTRs….you would be better off giving those carries to Fargas or McFadden.
I just haven’t seen a situation where a three-back offense has worked. It always ends up being a two-back set with the third back being a fringe player.
We will see how it all shakes out though.
Given your formula…gotta ask why the Raiders drafted all those running backs….
August 16th, 2009 at 10:06 am
Never said “whole” season. Said he avgd 4.5 for a season. If it was 5 or 7 or 9 games I could see the argument, but 14 out of 16 I would call that a season.
August 16th, 2009 at 10:06 am
Why is the topic of conversation about whether or not huggy bear jr. is better that Rankin? As a Raider fan I think there are more important things to worry about. MLB and who should start at QB are my top concerns.
August 16th, 2009 at 10:07 am
Ex, I feel ya. Fargas is a GOOD(not great) hard runner. Problem is TD production. He might as well be running in circles, it would have the same effect on the scoreboard. Dmac and Bush have the potential to score at anytime, PERIOD.
August 16th, 2009 at 10:08 am
Wheres your evidence of them throwing that many times?
That ratio seems to be the norm for this club. I think Bush will handle the short yardage/goal line stuff. Fact is, dont have to wait long to find out.
August 16th, 2009 at 10:08 am
if you could only see it ron.As long as you make a mistake and see it only as a mistake you are making progress.But when others make a mistake and you continue 2 call them lies,all your trying to do is mask your condition ron.Do you see this yet ron???
August 16th, 2009 at 10:09 am
Didnt make a mistake. I knew he played only 14 games.
August 16th, 2009 at 10:11 am
2008 Raiders
Rushing plays
August 16th, 2009 at 10:12 am
Cause I know Fargas can go for a grand and avg over 4 yards per for a NFL season. Verbatim ron
August 16th, 2009 at 10:13 am
2008 Raiders
Rushing plays 459
Passing Plays 919(421 passing attempts)
August 16th, 2009 at 10:13 am
vegas raider Says:
August 16th, 2009 at 8:13 am
And what’s up with Florida Pete, usually one of the more solid posters on here, saying we should cut Ike and “nobody will pick him up”? HUH???
The guy was selected by his peers as the best special teams player in his conference. He is one of the best, if not THE best, in the whole league at covering kickoffs. If we cut him during breakfast, he would have a new contract before dinner.
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i’m not a doctor… but it looks like he has a dislocated shoulder…
he’s not going to be able to work out… a solid hit on his shoulder will pop that thing out again…
and… (i need to borrow something from Norco Bob here)… the Raiders don’t “have enough booze, pot or pills” to make that shoulder feel any better when it pops out again…
i think he is done for this year…
then again, i’m not a doctor…
probably someone here has had a dislocated shoulder… and they can enlighten us on it’s seriousness…
August 16th, 2009 at 10:14 am
sorry 919 total plays, havin trouble goin back and forth between cpl things.
August 16th, 2009 at 10:14 am
Yep, I would consider 14 games a season. Want me to say it again?
August 16th, 2009 at 10:15 am
RaiderRon Says:
August 16th, 2009 at 10:08 am
Wheres your evidence of them throwing that many times?
That ratio seems to be the norm for this club. I think Bush will handle the short yardage/goal line stuff. Fact is, dont have to wait long to find out
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Schilens emerging as a go-to guy….Miller already a go to guy….drafted a receiver #7….working DMAC a lot in motion….Russell improving as a passer….
They are going to want to throw the football….more than a few times a game.
Is Bush really the short yardage back? He averaged 5.6 per gm against K.C and 6.6 on 27 carries against Tampa. Had 7 receptions against S.D and 128 total yds.
Do you want to limit him to short-yardage and goal line? If so, why?
August 16th, 2009 at 10:18 am
Florida,
Dislocated both my shoulders, right 1 pops out quite a bit now, more you do it easier it comes out, but pops back in easier, at least for me. Hurts like hell tho. For a linebacker always hittin, tryin to shed, or special teamer going heads up all the time, could be a big proble. I bet he has better doctors than I did.
August 16th, 2009 at 10:19 am
Liars never make a mistake in their own little mind ron
August 16th, 2009 at 10:22 am
RaiderRon Says:
August 16th, 2009 at 10:14 am
Yep, I would consider 14 games a season
Poor little ron dosent know the difference between 14 and 16
August 16th, 2009 at 10:23 am
I am not neccesarily saying thats how it “should” bemore saying how it will be. I dont think Bush does the things Monday through Saturday to get the P.T. come Sunday. I only need to look at 08 for evidence of that.
August 16th, 2009 at 10:23 am
Pete, I stated that wrong, I SEPERATED both shoulders, dislocation stays out till someone puts it back in, doesn’t go back in on its own. I think thats what happened to Ike
August 16th, 2009 at 10:26 am
Ask Brian Bosworth about a dislocated shoulder. Typically once you start having shoulder injuries, it will be a chronic problem. Green Bay signed Stryker Sulak on 13 August. Anyone know why he was cut so early in camp by the Raiders?
August 16th, 2009 at 10:26 am
The two drives with most of the “Starters” on the field, to me, showed how much emphasis we need to put on special teams.
The first Dallas drive was started at around the 10 yard line after Ike made a great play on the opening kickoff, coupled with someone else beating there man and forcing a hold. The Cowboys went 3 and out, subsequently. The next drive, the return man got loose a little and brought the ball out to the 30. The Cowboys than march right down the field.
Now is there a 100% correalation to the D’s performance and special teams, of course not. However, winning the field position game is one way we can really help the D, along with scoring some points and keeping them off the field. With the emphasis on ST, that is why I still believe Jonathan Holland has the inside track for the last WR position. He plays on almost every unit, and did so last year.
August 16th, 2009 at 10:29 am
Please be carefull with that Raiderwoj…waayder won will say you are a wire
August 16th, 2009 at 10:29 am
Out. Going hiking up at Rainier. Peace!!
August 16th, 2009 at 10:33 am
I try to correct myself as quickly as possible, when I catch it. Way to many people on here will “yell” at you for mistakes. I personally rather not get into an “internet pissing match”. I only get to post occasionally due to work, so I rather talk Raiders than argue BS with someone.
August 16th, 2009 at 10:34 am
Is that another lie ron??? ron… ron,oh never mind you’re 2 easy =)
August 16th, 2009 at 10:36 am
Sorry Raiderwoj…Thats all raider ron comes in here 4 so I just run him out so the rest of us can really talk Raiders.Again SIR I apologise
August 16th, 2009 at 10:50 am
4eva,
No Prob man, I read what’s goin on, no apology needed. Well time to go get new LCDTV, this ones on it’s last leg. Be back later
August 16th, 2009 at 10:52 am
Just in time 3 da season you lucky!!! =)
August 16th, 2009 at 10:53 am
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August 16th, 2009 at 10:54 am
Awesome Jerry Thanks!
August 16th, 2009 at 11:36 am
I’d like to see DMac get 20 -25 carries a game. Bush does needs to be short yardage and goal line. Every carry he gets is one less DMac could be breaking for big yardage.
August 16th, 2009 at 11:44 am
Just popped in to read Jerry’s post on yesterday’s practice.
If Garcia can’t go against the 9er’s in the joint practices this week, he needs to hit the bricks.
Jerry, go to Wal-Mart and but a pair of binoculars. Your constant whining of being unable to see the action is getting tiresome. Or, if you can’t see over the players, buy a 2ft. step ladder.
After reading the great debate of Fargas vs. Rankin, I need another bloody mary, talk about a buzz kill.
Have a great day!
August 16th, 2009 at 11:55 am
if we put Chaz,Johnnie Lee,DHB,Dmac and Bush on the field at the same time,not 2 mention Zack Miller,how in the world is a defence contain all that???
I dont think eees possible =)
August 16th, 2009 at 11:58 am
4evaRaider Says:
August 16th, 2009 at 11:55 am
if we put Chaz,Johnnie Lee,DHB,Dmac and Bush on the field at the same time,not 2 mention Zack Miller,how in the world is a defence contain all that???
I dont think eees possible =)
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me neither… ya got 6 players there…
add Russell for 7…
that leaves a four man line…
August 16th, 2009 at 12:02 pm
sorry I must B lying again =)
August 16th, 2009 at 12:04 pm
Ok even if you let the opposing DC. subtract 1 of them,he would still have his hand full,imo
August 16th, 2009 at 12:10 pm
[...] by ESPN.com’s Bill Williamson Jeff Garcia is missing more camp time. Garcia just hasn’t gotten enough work to make a strong preseason push at [...]
August 16th, 2009 at 12:21 pm
SUP NATION
August 16th, 2009 at 12:25 pm
Hey 408 waaaaas-up Bro???
August 16th, 2009 at 12:27 pm
4eva..
watching higlights of the game.. I missed it I was sick and couldnt stay up late enough to see the game..
August 16th, 2009 at 12:29 pm
Cool.I hope you are feeling better,a Raider victory can cure many things =)
August 16th, 2009 at 12:32 pm
yeah Im tryin to find the whole game.. ufck!!! OUR guys put the thing down and I didnt even get to see it!!! arrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!
August 16th, 2009 at 12:45 pm
sweet its on NFLN @ 4:00
August 16th, 2009 at 12:46 pm
our offence is gonna light it up this year especially if da refs dont count!!!
August 16th, 2009 at 12:49 pm
thankx 4 telling me 408 I would love 2 watch it again!!!
August 16th, 2009 at 1:02 pm
yo 4eva y come U dont answer ur IM thingy no mo?.. Please forgive the text slang its the medication… If ya KNOW WHAT i DIG
August 16th, 2009 at 1:03 pm
4pm my time 7 ur time
August 16th, 2009 at 1:07 pm
damn
August 16th, 2009 at 1:08 pm
I did =)
August 16th, 2009 at 1:15 pm
Hey…Manning Jr. was a decent corner. I don’t mind seeing him on the team and I’ve never been impressed with Routt so bring him. He can be this years Tory James.
I’d love to add Greenwood or Brooks at LB because we really do need some more quality. What I love the most is that John Marshall doesn’t play favorites and makes the necessary moves unlike Rob Ryan who doesn’t want to hurt anybody’s feelings.
August 16th, 2009 at 1:17 pm
Jeff Garcia is pissing me off. I doubt hes still hurt. Get on the field because Gradkowski and Frye are showing us they want to be here and they are younger and have a more promising future.
August 16th, 2009 at 1:25 pm
408,
Don’t get too excited!! They did the same thing yesterday, but showed a Different game.
August 16th, 2009 at 1:27 pm
Garcia is a whinner, but he has good taste in women.
August 16th, 2009 at 1:28 pm
O
dont be harshin my buzz!! LOL
August 16th, 2009 at 1:30 pm
tory James was the man!!!
August 16th, 2009 at 2:17 pm
Garcia used to date a friend of mines daughter.
Yes, he has good taste in women.
August 16th, 2009 at 2:20 pm
909RaiderLifer Says:
August 16th, 2009 at 11:44 am
Just popped in to read Jerry’s post on yesterday’s practice.
If Garcia can’t go against the 9er’s in the joint practices this week, he needs to hit the bricks.
Jerry, go to Wal-Mart and but a pair of binoculars. Your constant whining of being unable to see the action is getting tiresome. Or, if you can’t see over the players, buy a 2ft. step ladder.
After reading the great debate of Fargas vs. Rankin, I need another bloody mary, talk about a buzz kill.
Have a great day!
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Another Raider fan who’s perfected the fine art of “DUH”
Why even post the above ignorant crap?
I mean besides the fact you’re obviously vertically challenged?
See, in the past reporters weren’t restricted to a remote confined area, meaning you had good sight lines.
Now they are, for some odd reason.
Obviously you know that.
Being slow means you probably aren’t aware on how some anal fans whine about not getting exact info.
Then again, maybe you just like to whine.
Yeah, that’s it.
August 16th, 2009 at 2:25 pm
DRAFT MEGYN KELLY!
We need her and we need here now.
Or maybe it’s just me.
August 16th, 2009 at 2:27 pm
24 Says:
August 16th, 2009 at 1:17 pm
Jeff Garcia is pissing me off. I doubt hes still hurt. Get on the field because Gradkowski and Frye are showing us they want to be here and they are younger and have a more promising future.
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Another “rocket scientist”.
You “doubt” if he’s still hurt?
Are you a idiot all the time, or is this a part time gig?
Garcia knows NO ONE wants him.
He sat. No one called, except the Raiders.
He’s knows that if he doesn’t earn a backup spot, he’s going to be released, and then very likely unemployed.
Yeah, he’s “faking it”, moron..just because you say so.
Seems you can take 90% of you fake Raider fans, and get a collective IQ of 40.
Look at some of you morons whooping it up over a preseason win, especially after your starters amassed an awesome output of 3 POINTS against Dallas starters.
You’re celebrating that those starters that remained in did better than Dallas players that aren’t even going to make their team.
Whoop dee doo, Raider fans, lol.
Oh wait.
It’s the Raiders.
You have to celebrate the little things, obviously.
In that case, you go, girl.
August 16th, 2009 at 2:30 pm
“When asken if Garcia was assessing his future in football…” says Jerry.
Why would that question even be asked?
When he signed up wasn’t he supposed to challenge JR for the job?
Frye has been looking possible and Gradowski has been looking ok maybe Jeff see’s writing on the wall?
Florida Pete says: “Garcia hasn’t anything left in the tank…”
Pete, you’re not getting enough sleep.
It makes you think something is going on though.
August 16th, 2009 at 2:32 pm
In SD’s game LT ran four times for ten yards.
That’s two and a half yards a run.
Keep up the good work LT.
August 16th, 2009 at 2:35 pm
Nordic Raider says ..”Manning..can bring the heat against the run..”
Maybe. He’s muscular but short. Maybe in short yardage.
August 16th, 2009 at 2:38 pm
In the Dallas game it was good to see Russell taking off and runnning for 18 yards.
That’s what we need him to do. That and not telegraphing every pass.
August 16th, 2009 at 2:53 pm
[...] SOURCE: OAKLAND TRIBUNE [...]
August 16th, 2009 at 3:11 pm
yep da Raiders game is on next nfln @4:00
August 16th, 2009 at 3:21 pm
Limeyraider bagging on LT,..hey Limey, I go to every game, every game LT has played in Oakland,..look you typical england fagg,…LT will go into the hall of fame thanks to his games vs the Raiders,…so go ahead and bag on LT for not running for 200 yards ina preseason game,..but if he runs for under 200 come opener, I will be surprised,..typical Limey fagg.
August 16th, 2009 at 3:44 pm
408,
lol
The game will be on. Theyare showing the Eagles vs the Rats. Maclin looks good.
August 16th, 2009 at 3:49 pm
Nice article on Manning Jr. Kind of an ugly incident where he called that guy by some pretty heavy duty racial slurs before they beat the **** out of him.
http://www.raidernationstation.com/2009_pre_season
He’s been in toruble, he’s been injured. This is more like a “traditional” Raider signing.
August 16th, 2009 at 3:52 pm
I actually side with Manning…hey look, keepin it real, Manning was right about that guy,…thank you Manning for calling him what he was, and beating the f*ck out of him,…he deserved it. Im buying a Manning jersey.
August 16th, 2009 at 3:55 pm
Raider O Says:
August 16th, 2009 at 3:44 pm
408,
lol
The game will be on. Theyare showing the Eagles vs the Rats. Maclin looks good.
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Better get the defense to learn gap control when they play the Eagles. They have a big offensive line like Dallas does…..Westbrook in space is scary…
August 16th, 2009 at 3:55 pm
Nnamdi,
I think he will play instead if Stanford.
August 16th, 2009 at 3:58 pm
piss on Manning…
if he has any friends…
piss on them too…
he might be your hero…
but he’s no hero to me…
just a felony looking for a place to happen…
we don’t need him…
August 16th, 2009 at 3:59 pm
Pete,..that dude he beat up probably was a Taliban,..Manning did the right thing,..I applaud him for that,..wya to go Ricky!!!….by the way Jews sucks anyway.
August 16th, 2009 at 4:01 pm
SnB,
Let’s watch the DTs again, and look for:
- are they hlding the point?
- are there double teams on our DTs?
- How bad Kirk looks behind the line.
- look for the Dline to give a huge gap between our DTs!!!
August 16th, 2009 at 4:03 pm
O,..seriously,..you are going to watch that game again?…damn.
August 16th, 2009 at 4:04 pm
Don’t get all too excited about new camp bodies. Manning likly won’t make the team. Like Cable said, he’s here for fresh legs (i.e. just to keep the other DBs who will make the roster fresh).
I find that many of you guys focus too heavily on the backups and place too high of hope and expectations in them.
That Dallas game was only relevant for about 1Q. Everything beyond that you should not dwell too much on. What I saw was a pick that actually works and can immediately contribute in DHB, a team that attacks the field – overall a potentially dynamic offense and exciting offense. On defense I worry about RDE mostly.
August 16th, 2009 at 4:05 pm
Jerry reports on twitter, there is a new # 56!
any ideas?!
August 16th, 2009 at 4:06 pm
Norco,
I just had a nice session bro, so why not? lol
August 16th, 2009 at 4:06 pm
If Ellis gets injured – we’re in serious trouble. Its scary to think about.
August 16th, 2009 at 4:07 pm
Raider O Says:
August 16th, 2009 at 4:01 pm
SnB,
Let’s watch the DTs again, and look for:
- are they hlding the point?
- are there double teams on our DTs?
- How bad Kirk looks behind the line.
- look for the Dline to give a huge gap between our DTs!!!
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- did they comb their hair?
- did they brush their teeth?
- were their shirts tucked in?
August 16th, 2009 at 4:07 pm
Garcia gone again, just cut him.
August 16th, 2009 at 4:10 pm
DarthPirate Says:
August 16th, 2009 at 4:07 pm
Garcia gone again, just cut him.
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damn!!! you don’t think that’s a little harsh…
cutting off a man’s gnads just ’cause he left the …
what?
oh…
i think it’s a fine idea to dismiss him…
August 16th, 2009 at 4:10 pm
Garcia is not there according to Jerry.
What’s his problem?!
August 16th, 2009 at 4:10 pm
Raider O Says:
August 16th, 2009 at 4:05 pm
Jerry reports on twitter, there is a new # 56!
any ideas?!
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I am guessing Morlon Greenwood…he wore 56 in Houston last year.
August 16th, 2009 at 4:11 pm
his wife???
August 16th, 2009 at 4:12 pm
bydavidwhite No Jeff Garcia at practice. Mystery man of the day is a LB in No. 56. It sure isn’t Derrick Burgess, and looks nothing like Derrick Brooks.
August 16th, 2009 at 4:12 pm
David White probably means when he says looks nothing like brooks,..that its a white dude.
August 16th, 2009 at 4:13 pm
I hope Greenwood is just there as a backup, I don’t see him being better than what we already have, and we don’t have all that much.
August 16th, 2009 at 4:13 pm
my guess is #56 is Morlon Greenwood
August 16th, 2009 at 4:14 pm
O I couldnt care less about whatever your session was,..after observing you for a couple months,..you are really f*cked up in the head,…get a life dude.
August 16th, 2009 at 4:14 pm
I guess there is an echo in here
echo echo echooooo
August 16th, 2009 at 4:14 pm
greenwood would be an okay pickup…
brooks would be a mistake…
BRING ME BRINKLEY !!!!
al, baby, make it happen…
August 16th, 2009 at 4:15 pm
The Raiders need more bad asses like Manning,…I think Morrison should be cut.
August 16th, 2009 at 4:15 pm
Our DTs didn’t do much!! That was due to bad field position!
August 16th, 2009 at 4:16 pm
channelsurfing.net
nfl repeat of Oak v Dall
August 16th, 2009 at 4:16 pm
Damn,..that little cat eater knocked tiger woods out!
August 16th, 2009 at 4:17 pm
Jerrymcd Samie Parker not absent after all . . . score one for sharp-eyed PR staff . . . they don’t know who No. 56 is, though
August 16th, 2009 at 4:18 pm
Norco,
You were observing me for a couple of months!!! lol
God Bless you Dude.
August 16th, 2009 at 4:19 pm
Im going to get drunk and go to candlestick next saturday,…first mother f*cker says anything to me about my Stabler jersey gets it, and Iv been to jail on Bryant st before so I couldnt care less.
August 16th, 2009 at 4:19 pm
FU and God both O.
August 16th, 2009 at 4:20 pm
RaiderDogg Says:
August 16th, 2009 at 4:17 pm
Jerrymcd Samie Parker not absent after all . . . score one for sharp-eyed PR staff . . . they don’t know who No. 56 is, though
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Does the league mandate that the teams allow media to cover training camp?
I gotta believe the Raiders would not allow media at all if they could help it.
August 16th, 2009 at 4:21 pm
Cooper Carlisle holds and Fargas jumps into the pile
August 16th, 2009 at 4:22 pm
Uh oh, the Bad Ass is here! Everyone look out for Norco….Hes been to jail b4, oooooooooooooooo. Scarrrrryy
August 16th, 2009 at 4:23 pm
George Atkinson is an absolute embarrasment.
August 16th, 2009 at 4:25 pm
yeah…
Fargas tried to make like Marcus Allen…
and landed short of the line of scrimmage…
August 16th, 2009 at 4:26 pm
Ron George is not an embarrassment,..he comes to our tailgate once in a while,..why dont you come?…you can tell that to George himself…bitch.
August 16th, 2009 at 4:28 pm
Jerrymcd No. 56 is Morlon Greenwood . . . Derrick Gray released
August 16th, 2009 at 4:29 pm
Our DTs are sorry, and there are no double teams!!!!!
We need a run stuffing DT!!
August 16th, 2009 at 4:31 pm
SnB,
You were right!
August 16th, 2009 at 4:34 pm
Any of you guys catch Stuey on the lions #rd team D? That guy is like a human mudflap for nfl runningbacks
August 16th, 2009 at 4:34 pm
Cuz I am too scart of you Norco. After all youve been to jail before!
August 16th, 2009 at 4:36 pm
3rd team d that is
August 16th, 2009 at 4:39 pm
running back to schweigert after touchdown:
“you can get off my back now…”
August 16th, 2009 at 4:40 pm
Im inviting you bitch so you can tell george what an embarrassment he is,..more then likely you would ask him for his autograph and kiss his ass.
August 16th, 2009 at 4:41 pm
it’s not all Stuey’s fault…
when running backs see him…
they run toward him…
August 16th, 2009 at 4:42 pm
What game?
August 16th, 2009 at 4:43 pm
Take your pick bitch Im at every game, and so is george.
August 16th, 2009 at 4:43 pm
Norco Bob Says:
August 16th, 2009 at 4:40 pm
Im inviting you bitch so you can tell george what an embarrassment he is,..more then likely you would ask him for his autograph and kiss his ass.
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he might be nervous and kiss his autograph and ask him for his ass…
August 16th, 2009 at 4:46 pm
I am considering either the KC or Denver game. That work for you Thug life?
August 16th, 2009 at 4:50 pm
Typical wannabe raider fan,..is “considering” going to a game or two,..pathetic.
August 16th, 2009 at 4:51 pm
Typical fan in Seattle with a 1 year old and one on the way. Yep, typical. Have you ever even left the hood Thug Life?
August 16th, 2009 at 4:52 pm
Besides, why would I want to give that old P.O.S. Al Davis any more of my money? Would rather give it to Direct TV
August 16th, 2009 at 4:59 pm
samething Ron except you are using a middle man.
August 16th, 2009 at 4:59 pm
Better yet give it to the seahawks punk. You arent wanted here.
August 16th, 2009 at 5:00 pm
David White:
“Cable walks by and slaps Javon in the backside. Walker said he’ll go off the PUP list next Monday and play vs Saints”
I’ll be interested to see what Walker can do.
August 16th, 2009 at 5:01 pm
Lefty is usually pretty stupid but right here,..Rons cash goes to directv that goes to Al and jerry Jones and a bunch of Jew lawyers. Fell better now Ron?
August 16th, 2009 at 5:03 pm
Anyone that refers to al davis as a p.o.s. is clearly no raider fan,…just miserable prick whos hurting for money and has a little kid,..sucks you cant use your food stamps for game tickets.
August 16th, 2009 at 5:04 pm
Fell better, ummm…not sure. Feel better, nope. Im not wanted there? OK, guess I wont come. Thanks Thug Life.
August 16th, 2009 at 5:06 pm
You were suppossed 2 jump off Mt.Ranier ron
August 16th, 2009 at 5:06 pm
DarthPirate Says:
August 16th, 2009 at 5:00 pm
David White:
“Cable walks by and slaps Javon in the backside. Walker said he’ll go off the PUP list next Monday and play vs Saints”
I’ll be interested to see what Walker can do.
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now that’s some serious mojo…
a slap on the ass and Javon is ready to go…
i wonder what would happen if cable touched my…
ah, never mind…
August 16th, 2009 at 5:06 pm
Dudes who cant hang in Ca usually end up in oregon and washington with the rest of the pussies.
August 16th, 2009 at 5:07 pm
You guessed it Thug Life. I am broke as a joke. Cant hardly pay the payment on my 560,000 dollar mortgage or pay for the gas in my truck amd my wifes Tahoe. Could you help me?? Come on Thug Life, heard the drug selling business is recesssion proof.
August 16th, 2009 at 5:08 pm
it is
August 16th, 2009 at 5:10 pm
Impressive,….next time a person in a message board says he lives in a boarding house and has no car will be the first,..you and your stats are weak Ron.
August 16th, 2009 at 5:10 pm
Was talking to Thug Life, not you Short Bus.
August 16th, 2009 at 5:12 pm
Keep saving your cash poor house,..try and make that game this year.
August 16th, 2009 at 5:12 pm
You dont believe me Thug Life? Damn! It matters SO much if you believe me or not. Tell Loqueesha to get you another Old E so you can chill a bit.
August 16th, 2009 at 5:13 pm
Liar
August 16th, 2009 at 5:14 pm
Go to a game every year Thug Life. Dont stay in that rat infested dump called Oakland but I do go.
August 16th, 2009 at 5:15 pm
The Kc game is good 4 me lil liar
August 16th, 2009 at 5:15 pm
I like Olde E as a matter of fact i will be crushing 1 in the Oakland Alameda parking lot on Sept 14
August 16th, 2009 at 5:16 pm
i think i’ll just stay here on my couch…
August 16th, 2009 at 5:18 pm
Manning’s getting beaten down by JLH.
August 16th, 2009 at 5:19 pm
I’m going to be in crappy Ceritos on the 14th, learning all about Medicare. Thankfully it is the late-late game so I should be uninterrupted in the hotel.
August 16th, 2009 at 5:20 pm
I would love 2 stay and watch the lil liar from Washington melt-down AGAIN but company calls.You do know what company is dont you ron???And STOP LYING ron it is not good 4 you
August 16th, 2009 at 5:24 pm
Norco Bob Says:
August 16th, 2009 at 3:59 pm
Pete,..that dude he beat up probably was a Taliban,..Manning did the right thing,..I applaud him for that,..wya to go Ricky!!!….by the way Jews sucks anyway.
Norco Bob Says:
August 16th, 2009 at 5:01 pm
Lefty is usually pretty stupid but right here,..Rons cash goes to directv that goes to Al and jerry Jones and a bunch of Jew lawyers. Fell better now Ron?
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You’re one of the slowest, dumbest, tools I’ve ever seen on a Raider board, or any board, for that matter.
No, worm, it’s not that you’re a racist piece of crap, and a wannabee internet tough guy, it’s that you’re honestly dumber than cotton (I apologize to all cotton balls)
See, Norco Boob, it appears you have a major problem with other nationalities, especially Jews.
AL DAVIS IS JEWISH, YOU FOOL.
Yes, LMFAO that you’re honestly this dumb.
Why do I just know you do menial work?
Why is it I can guarantee that YOUR JOB REQUIRES NO THINKING??
LOL..prove me wrong. Some obviously know you. They also likely know what I just said is dead on.
Let me guess? Drive a truck? Toll booth operator? factory worker? oh..I got it..you weld?
Fool.
August 16th, 2009 at 5:27 pm
No way Thug Life does anything but gangbang or push drugs on the corner, NO WAY.
August 16th, 2009 at 5:30 pm
He says he installs computers for the government, or at least he said something like that one time.
August 16th, 2009 at 5:31 pm
I work menial labor and i do pretty well.Go Raiders
August 16th, 2009 at 5:35 pm
Crabdiva lighting it up in camp yet? boomerang.
August 16th, 2009 at 5:35 pm
Vegas,
THATS funny.
August 16th, 2009 at 5:35 pm
From Jerry Mac
“Perfectly executed screen, Russell to Bush, would be fun to watch someone try to tackle him with that momentum.”
Yeah well we wont won’t be able to see that because we have a coach that won’t play his best backs.
August 16th, 2009 at 5:41 pm
cable should be made to watch fargas’ goal-line dive 25 times…
Fargas leaped… he hung in the air…
(about a half second hang-time)…
and landed on his face… short of the line of scrimmage…
it was like watching Wile E Coyote play football…
August 16th, 2009 at 5:43 pm
Why he leaps Pete is beyond me. Have we ever seen it work? One time last year, a guy basically caught him and piledrived him face-first into the turf. And yet he still does it, amazing.
August 16th, 2009 at 5:46 pm
413. http://www.raidernationstation.com/exclusives
3 headed monster?
August 16th, 2009 at 5:47 pm
409. Good for you! Kick azz and go raiders!
August 16th, 2009 at 5:48 pm
# RaiderRon Says:
August 16th, 2009 at 5:14 pm
Go to a game every year Thug Life. Dont stay in that rat infested dump called Oakland but I do go.
You wouldn’t come to Oakland and talk none of this sh*t you talking behind a keyboard you little pussy.
In fact I live right by the Coliseum on Foothill Blvd. Your little Washington pamsy ass wouldn’t make it ten minutes in Oakland.
And are we supposed to be impressed with your 560,000 mortgage you fake a$$ Donald Trump. This is Cali fool. Crack houses cost more than that out here fool.
Go Oakland Raiders.
August 16th, 2009 at 5:49 pm
4evaRaider Says:
August 16th, 2009 at 5:15 pm
The Kc game is good 4 me lil
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KC’s D looked good. Uh oh…
Their 3rd round pick performed well and bolstered the D. Some talent there. Hali, Pollard, Dorsey. They could do ok, but the O, I’m not so sure about. Cassel has a good arm, but was behind on a few throw and still hold the ball a fraction too long.
August 16th, 2009 at 5:50 pm
3rd OVERALL pick at DE I meant to say
August 16th, 2009 at 5:58 pm
From David White:
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Ricky Manning beat by … Shawn Bayes? Perhaps not the impact signing as intended to strike fear into Routt. Practice ends.
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Jesus. Nice signing.
August 16th, 2009 at 5:59 pm
LOL @ Kush. Ok tough guy. Sorry your butt hurt over my comments. By the way, 560grand puts me on the lower end of the totem pole in my neighorhood, so Trump i aint.
August 16th, 2009 at 5:59 pm
Nnamdi21 Says:
August 16th, 2009 at 5:46 pm
413. http://www.raidernationstation.com/exclusives
3 headed monster?
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two monsters…
and a guy who does…
what ???
fargas needs to be number 3…
August 16th, 2009 at 6:03 pm
If the Raiders are going to bench Morrison….they might as well try and trade him.
August 16th, 2009 at 6:05 pm
560K low-end of totem poll, sounds like a nice area in Bothel maybe. I have lots of family in the Seattle surrounding area, but prices are nowhere near that high.
August 16th, 2009 at 6:06 pm
# RaiderRon Says:
August 16th, 2009 at 5:59 pm
LOL @ Kush. Ok tough guy. Sorry your butt hurt over my comments. By the way, 560grand puts me on the lower end of the totem pole in my neighorhood, so Trump i aint.
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Whatever motormouth. You constantly come on here menstruating out of your mouth, talking a whole lotta sh*t. Respect goes both ways buddy. You gotta give it in order to get it.
Go root for the Seahawks, or the Oregon Ducks. That’s closer to your neck of the woods anyway.
August 16th, 2009 at 6:12 pm
All right folks, good night, I’m off to eat some home-made pasta fagioli, yum!!!!
August 16th, 2009 at 6:15 pm
Yeah, I can see them trading Morrison. Better earlier than later. I wonder if we could get Philly to bite?
August 16th, 2009 at 6:20 pm
Interesting that a SLB was brought in with no injuries to the SLBs, and Slade playing well. I think Brown’s days as a SLB are over and he is leading the MLB competition.
August 16th, 2009 at 6:25 pm
Jhill,
To me, bringing that linebacker shows how much trouble we are in at that position(s).
They brought in Franz Joseph, Chris O’Neill, Slade Norris, Stryker Sulak and are moving Brown/Morrison and Alston around.
When you have no number 1….you have no number 1….
That defensive line better step up big time
August 16th, 2009 at 6:31 pm
[...] [Raiders] Raiders CB Ricky Manning Jr. Gets Work As Nickel CB Amid speculation the Raiders were looking hard at bringing in another linebacker, they instead signed veteran cornerback Ricky Manning Jr. Manning immediately got in some work as a nickel cornerback and was told to acquaint himself with strong safety. Manning failed to get a hand on a ball that went over his head from Bruce Gradkowski to Todd Watson, and was a late arrival on a JaMarcus Russell pass to Johnnie Lee Higgins. Source: Jerry McDonald, Contra Cost Times [...]
August 16th, 2009 at 6:37 pm
Asomugha’s support helps Raiders land Manning Jr.
By Steve Corkran
Oakland Tribune
Posted: 08/15/2009 09:03:51 PM PDT
Updated: 08/16/2009 12:13:30 AM PDT
Linebacker Jon Alston (foot), Asomugha (heel) and offensive lineman Mark Wilson (back) returned to practice. “… The Raiders released tight end John Paul Foschi to make room for Manning Jr. on the 80-man roster.
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Alston returned to practice today, so we’ll see if that counts for anything…
August 16th, 2009 at 6:38 pm
Ok Kush, real original. Been reading some of your posts and ummmm… where do I begin?
August 16th, 2009 at 6:41 pm
Hey everyone, my first time commenting in over a year. According to Raiderbeat, Morlon Greenwood just signed!! HOpefully he has something left in the tank!!
August 16th, 2009 at 6:42 pm
Well…
You can begin by sticking your head back up your ass where you obviously spend most of your time judging by the comments you leave on here.
August 16th, 2009 at 6:43 pm
Come widit it Hater Ron. lmfao. You’re a bleeping joke.
August 16th, 2009 at 6:44 pm
Ok, Kush, lets do this. Lets start with comment number 1 you disagree with…..
” The Raiders return to greatness is inevitable” LMFAO!!
August 16th, 2009 at 6:47 pm
I wouldn’t jump to that conclusion SnB.
Howard has WLB locked up, no problems there.
Alston has the SLB spot, and Norris looked really good behind him. Greenwood is a camp body.
I think they like Brown at MLB, and Ekejubiah(sp?) behind him. I think you might be right about them trading Morrison.
August 16th, 2009 at 6:50 pm
It is Hater Ron. I truly believe that. just like the US economy will eventually rebound. Just like the Arizona Cardinals were in the Superbowl last year.
Life goes in cycles. That’s the law of the universe buddy.
The Raiders are intrinsically tied to the history and development of the NFL and Pro Football as a whole. We will be great again.
August 16th, 2009 at 7:08 pm
Kush….you’re wasting your time….the guy has to plead for explanations on how weight affects a QB’s performance.
August 16th, 2009 at 7:13 pm
Rich,
J3ws can be any Nationality!!! It’s a religion and not a Nationality!!
So,
You can be a White J3w, a black one, Asains, South American, Arab, etc… All these races and Nationallyties can be J3ws!
August 16th, 2009 at 7:25 pm
Raider O you are 100% correct on that social analysis.
August 16th, 2009 at 7:26 pm
Plead for explanations?? Dont recall that convo
August 16th, 2009 at 7:27 pm
JHill,
I just can’t get excited about a linebacking corps with Ricky Brown/Kirk Morrison and Jon Alston.
I am all for giving guys a chance…but with our lackluster defensive line….we really need a monster in that linebacking corps.
Al Davis would never let the cornerback or safety position go into a season without trying for some major upgrade like he has with the lack of starting talent that is currently in the front 7
August 16th, 2009 at 7:27 pm
So Kush….. How long you think that will take??
August 16th, 2009 at 7:28 pm
SnB,
Oh come on now son, the Raider safeties have been garbage for YEARS!!!!
August 16th, 2009 at 7:30 pm
Raider O Says:
August 16th, 2009 at 7:13 pm
Rich,
J3ws can be any Nationality!!! It’s a religion and not a Nationality!!
So,
You can be a White J3w, a black one, Asains, South American, Arab, etc… All these races and Nationallyties can be J3ws!
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i believe an eskimo can be a J3w…
but a J3w cannot be an eskimo…
so say Peter-san…
August 16th, 2009 at 7:32 pm
RaiderRon Says:
August 16th, 2009 at 7:28 pm
SnB,
Oh come on now son, the Raider safeties have been garbage for YEARS!!!!
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only on the field…
on paper… they were great !!!
August 16th, 2009 at 7:32 pm
RaiderRon Says:
August 16th, 2009 at 7:28 pm
SnB,
Oh come on now son, the Raider safeties have been garbage for YEARS!!!!
=======================================================I agree RaiderRon….but not for a lack of trying….just had too many busts at the position.
But Al Davis drafted Michael Huff, Stuart Schweigart, Darnell Bing, Tyvon Branch, Mike Mitchell and brought in Gibril Wilson for a season….so its not for a lack of trying..
What have we done at the linebacking position….specifically the SLB and MLB….or the DT for that matter?
Yes Lefty and Priest…I am still b&@!#$….
August 16th, 2009 at 7:33 pm
It depends on what your definition of greatness is. If you refer to a Vince Lombardi trophy, I’ll give it 3 years.
If you mean perennial division champs like we were from 2000-2003, I say next season. With the state of the AFC West this season, we could sneak into the playoffs as a wildcard. Remember 8-8 WON THE DIVISION LAST SEASON.
Fact not fiction.
August 16th, 2009 at 7:38 pm
Raider Ron, you have the word Raider in your moniker. That gives the impression that you consider yourself to be some form of a Raider fan.
I’ll give you that benefit of the doubt. You are sort of like the biblical account of the Prodigal Son,, lmao. You have sort of lost your way.
Remember it’s never too late to come back home.
August 16th, 2009 at 7:39 pm
paging Jaspar Brinkley…
please pick up the silver and black phone…
August 16th, 2009 at 7:39 pm
SnB,
Don’t forget Gibson!
August 16th, 2009 at 7:41 pm
Raider O Says:
August 16th, 2009 at 7:39 pm
SnB,
Don’t forget Gibson!
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why did you go and do that…
he’s been trying to forget the son of a bitch for 3 years…
August 16th, 2009 at 7:44 pm
You can put Rey at MLB, and that still will not help your run D!
Our DLine opens up like the Red Sea, and we just let the RBs go!! lol
August 16th, 2009 at 7:44 pm
SnB,
I get what your saying. Your right they get an A for effort. Whoever the safety scout is should be fired. Then fired 5 more times after that.
Kush,
Sorry. That is fiction. Teams are built from the inside out, not the other way around. The Raiders have neglected the lines for two long to be a factor any time soon. Even if Russell ends up being Cullpepper of old, it wont matter if he gets no protection and other teams run at will.
August 16th, 2009 at 7:45 pm
Pete,
LMAO
August 16th, 2009 at 7:46 pm
What about good old Anthony FUKN Dorsett? OMG!
August 16th, 2009 at 7:47 pm
Dont sleep on the Intimidator Patrick Bates!
August 16th, 2009 at 7:50 pm
Raider O-
The run D is definitely a problem, no doubt. The pass protection has improved. If you don’t see Mario Henderson as an upgrade of Kwame Harris, then you are not watching very many Raider games recently.
Can we improve more, of course! But we are talking about the AFC West. All of the teams in our division have serious issues. It is not fiction to say that we could win a division in one season that went 8-8 last year.
Fact.
August 16th, 2009 at 7:51 pm
I know Pete and SnB are watching the Minny game on NFLN right now hoping for a glimpse of Brinkley.
August 16th, 2009 at 7:54 pm
Fiction- What has SD done to bring themselves DOWN to the Raider level? They were in the AFC Championship game last year in case you forgot.
August 16th, 2009 at 7:57 pm
man, it’s going to take a long time for me to get over the Raiders whiffing on Brinkley…
August 16th, 2009 at 10:52 pm
909RaiderLifer Says:
August 16th, 2009 at 5:35 pm
Crabdiva lighting it up in camp yet? boomerang.
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Interesting that after 3 plus weeks of camp, both Bey and Crabtree have about the same productivity, which is zilch.
Only difference is one is in camp, dropping balls, in games, dropping balls, and the other player is holding out for a better contract.
One of the two is doing what drafted players do this time of year, holding out.
the other is doing what drafted players are NOT supposed to do, which is look like a really really bad draft pick
BTW..I love how Bey did the exact same thing in the pro’s that he did in college, when a deep ball came to him…which is nothing.
don’t you think the guy could have at least gone for the ball?
Naw..why start now?
August 17th, 2009 at 12:44 am
Richochet Says:
August 16th, 2009 at 10:52 pm
909RaiderLifer Says:
August 16th, 2009 at 5:35 pm
Crabdiva lighting it up in camp yet? boomerang.
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Interesting that after 3 plus weeks of camp, both Bey and Crabtree have about the same productivity, which is zilch.
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Rack-o-shit, DHB has production, Craptree has not signed yet. He had NO production. If I said to you, what’s 3 million times 0, you would say, don’t say zero. Stick with mistabrown and “Raider” Ron. They are in your league as dummest fukkers on earth.
August 18th, 2009 at 5:24 am
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