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AOL Fanhouse: Cable punched Hanson

By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Monday, August 17th, 2009 at 3:02 pm in Oakland Raiders.

According to a report in an AOL Fanhouse, Raiders head coach Tom Cable was the person who punched defensive assistant Randy Hanson, updating a story appearing in the National Football Post.

Cable will adress the media following today’s practice at 3:30 p.m., but is not expected to confirm or deny anything.

“It is an internal matter and will be handled as such,” senior executive John Herrera said.

Here’s a link to Steve Corkran’s initial report which contains information from the Napa Police Department.

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431 Responses to “AOL Fanhouse: Cable punched Hanson”

  1. 4evaRaider Says:

    let er rip

  2. Norco Bob Says:

    bfd

  3. 4evaRaider Says:

    go 2 the link…he looks like a smart-azz little punk that deserves 2 get his ass kicked,imo

  4. Norco Bob Says:

    brien!

  5. 4evaRaider Says:

    I’m surprised Cable didnt dis-combobulate him.What a weasel

  6. Lynn from Snot Says:

    Go thing Cable didn’t punch a dog or he’d really be in trouble

  7. 4evaRaider Says:

    I’m sure it was just a lovers spat =)

  8. RaiderMight Says:

    Wow. I hope this doesn’t result in some kind of suspension for the Coach if true. Wouldn’t be good to start the season without our coach. Especially on Monday Night against the Chargers.

  9. KoolKell Says:

    Dakota

    Why do you think the US has such a high Infant Mortality Rate, Or such a Low Life Expectancy, and why do 47 million Americans are without access to health care?

  10. Brien the General Says:

    Big time Bob!!!

  11. Lynn from Snot Says:

    good

  12. vegas raider Says:

    If it is true that Cable punched this guy, it will be interesting to see what he says after practice.

    Tells a lot about the differences between Cable and Kiffin. This guy Hanson has some issues apparently, and while Kiffin tried to suspend him for a week, Cable just punched him in the mouth. I like Cable’s approach better.

  13. Lynn from Snot Says:

    Cables got some Romanowski in him.

  14. Brien the General Says:

    VR yes me too. The team needs to know they dont have a some pu$$y for a coach leading them into battle. Cable aint the smartest but I know he has toughness and this team has lacked it for many many many years

  15. Terrapin Says:

    holy sht!!!

    (And darn near 24hrs later i’m posting to quickly)

  16. 4evaRaider Says:

    =)

  17. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Yeh, Vegas, this is such an improvement from Kiffin. While Kiffin tried to handle the situation professionally and make it as little of a distraction as possible, Cable staged a fist fight in front of his players, doing nothing more than reinforcing the players suspicions of the Oakland Raiders’ being an insane asylum, and giving them one more reason to not take anything seriously here.

  18. vegas raider Says:

    Nmamdi said I was defending the “Nazi’s”. LOL

    What happened to the compassion and logic to those who disagree, little buddy? Why the name-calling, I passionately wanted Hillary in office, even MR will vouch for that. Save the ideological bullcrap.

  19. 4evaRaider Says:

    I’m prolly the s l o w e s t typer here and I get that 2

  20. Brien the General Says:

    # Lynn from Snot Says:
    August 17th, 2009 at 3:13 pm

    Cables got some Romanowski in him.
    ********************

    No Cable isnt a 49er biaaaaaaaaatch who uses roids and hates black people. Plus Homonowski sucker punched dude because he was a punk. But Homo knew he messed up thats wy he never played again for the Raiders because the word was out that some brothers in Oakland were gonna put in work on him. Thats the truth

  21. Norco Bob Says:

    you comin to saints game brien?

  22. Lynn from Snot Says:

    Hanson reportedly said to Cable ” I’m In”

  23. 4evaRaider Says:

    what MR you never busted someone in the mouth that needed it???

  24. Dakota Says:

    KoolKell Says:
    August 17th, 2009 at 2:57 pm
    Dakota Says:
    August 17th, 2009 at 2:53 pm
    KoolKell Says:
    August 17th, 2009 at 2:48 pm
    Dakota

    Why do you think the US has such a high Infant Mortality Rate, Or such a Low Life Expectancy, and why do 47 million Americans are without access to health care?
    ________________________

    KK, Our infant mortality rate is almost the same as Canada 6.3 to 5.03 and our life expectancy is higher than LMN’s Denmark, both nations that provide socialized medicine.

    As to the 47 uninsured Americans, once you take out the 10 million illegal immigrants factored into that number plus the 25% of them that can afford health insurance but simply choose not to buy it, that number drops down to 20 million.

    And you guys claim that Republicans use scare tactics?

    http://www.independent.org/newsroom/article.asp?id=2550

  25. KoolKell Says:

    The Raiders have a nasty Self-Destructive streak. They can fuk themselves quicker and more throughly than anybody.

    Soon as they get something going on…………….

  26. Terrapin Says:

    Whats going on in Alameda?

  27. Brien the General Says:

    # The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    August 17th, 2009 at 3:15 pm

    Yeh, Vegas, this is such an improvement from Kiffin. While Kiffin tried to handle the situation professionally and make it as little of a distraction as possible, Cable staged a fist fight in front of his players, doing nothing more than reinforcing the players suspicions of the Oakland Raiders’ being an insane asylum, and giving them one more reason to not take anything seriously here.
    ***************************

    I think its great. Kiffin sure was professional in trying to bait the owner for months in 2008. Also was quite professional to the media dogging his own players and quitting on his team. Yeah MR you sure got it

  28. Brien the General Says:

    # Norco Bob Says:
    August 17th, 2009 at 3:16 pm

    you comin to saints game brien?
    *********************

    You damn right I am. That game will tell me alot about our defense due to the Saints having a juggernaut offense

  29. 4evaRaider Says:

    punk talk sh!t and,as Brien would say…

    POW RIGHT IN THE KISSER!!!

  30. Brien the General Says:

    # 4evaRaider Says:
    August 17th, 2009 at 3:17 pm

    what MR you never busted someone in the mouth that needed it???
    *************************

    Great question………..I’m interested to hear this

  31. Dakota Says:

    ESPN.com news services

    Oakland Raiders head coach Tom Cable punched one of his assistants on Aug. 5 at the team’s training camp headquarters in Napa, Calif., several media outlets reported on Monday.

    The Web site National Football Post first reported that defensive assistant Randy Hanson was punched in the jaw by another member of the Raiders staff. Unidentified sources later told Fanhouse.com that Cable attacked the third-year assistant.

    Hanson reportedly did not want to pursue the matter, but staff at Queen of the Valley Hospital alerted authorities, according to Fanhouse.com.

    “The victim didn’t even want any police action taken,” Napa Police Lt. Brian McGovern told the Web site, “but we were following hospital policy that authorities be contacted in cases where there may have been an assault.”

    Hanson suffered a fractured jaw, and as a result Cable could face felony charges, according to the Web site. But McGovern said, according to the Web site, that the Napa Police consider the matter closed “unless we are re-contacted by the victim, and the victim changes their mind that they want us to follow through and pursue an investigation. At this point we’re not doing anything else with it.”

    McGovern said the police report has not been made public over privacy concerns.

    Cable had a regularly scheduled meeting with the media scheduled for 8:30 p.m. ET on Monday.
    _______________________________________

    Bummer, if Al won’t save the Raiders and fire Cable, and the cops won’t bust his ass, then I guess we are stuck with Cable for this season, lol.

  32. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Brien, so, the Raiders’ problem in recent years is that they didn’t have a wannabe tough guy showoff as head coach? How about Art Shell? Sure he didn’t punch anyone but he was as much of a tough guy as anyone. In fact, he was hired to instill discipline. 2-14. Oh, Joe Bugel was no slouch either. And let’s not forget, Callahan was known to call the team out and fight with players, coaches, whoever. We did great in his final year here too, didn’t we? It’s chaotic, and a team recovering from 6 years of failure needs inter staff chaos like they need their plane to go down. It’s like a recovering addict. Chaos is the worst environment. The Raiders need to be in sync, with every single player and coach focused on a common goal. As it stands, our players are just laughing while the coaches are fighting each other, laughing all the way to the bank, at that. While this may make you guys think highly of Cable, to the players it was like Jimmy vs. Timmy on South Park. A straight up retard fight. They don’t care. These guys see real fights at the bars and clubs, with people getting shot in some cases. Two grumpy old coaches brawling is a side show they do not need right now. They need to be focused.

  33. Brien the General Says:

    4eva lol you better know it

  34. RaiderTW Says:

    Relax guys, 0bama is going to get healthcare in spite of the Reps. Popularity #s don’t matter(look at Bushies for 7 yrs) The average healthcare compay’s CEO make $14 million a YEAR. 0bama will be reelected.Rove will testify until he’s sentanced. Gonzales’ trial will come up soon. Cheney will be calle dto testify & he will implicate Bush. Cheney talks of “statute of limitations” which only guilty people & Law officers use. Rebubs will scream naz! & H!tler & no one will vote for them in 2010. We’ll run roughshod over the Repubs with 60 votes & everyone’s healthcare costs will go down because the top 3% of all US’ rich will pay for it. It’s good to be American!
    Oh yeah, Dakota will kick the sh!t outta his garge furniture………………..again!

  35. vegas raider Says:

    BTW, Nmamdi, your “defending the Nazi’s” comment was border-line racist to me, being Italian and all. Are we re-doing the axis of evil or what?

  36. Terrapin Says:

    Maybe this is a “good” distraction? Hopefully the team gets some grit in them too…

  37. SilverAndBlackBleeder Says:

    Cable is supposed to be teaching our players DISCIPLINE. It’s awfully hard to listen to a guy give you a lecture about discipline and how it pertains to drawing penalties, after that same guy just broke the jaw (which is what Napa police are saying) of another coach.

    Hopefully this goes the right way for the squad and it’s a mere afterthought and looked at as another petty training camp scuffle.

  38. priesttj Says:

    WOW!! this isn’t good. Let’s see what Cable has to say after practice.

    Usually this sort of thing stays in house but the guy’s jaw was cracked. This kind of thing does happen but it rarely gets into the public.

  39. Dakota Says:

    TW, you are so funny….and you actually believe those things!

  40. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Brien and whoever else asked: I haven’t been in a fist fight since I was in my early 20s. Sorry if that makes me a coward to you guys. How old is Tom Cable? The guy’s a showoff. I wish he’d showoff his ability to coach. I’m not impressed with his ability to beat up a coach who was probably half his size, anyway, as Cable is pretty big. Show me you can coach, Tom Cable, because I’m yet to see it.

  41. Raider O Says:

    I Don’t like our HC punching our staff in the face. A tough man can lead by example like Tony D!!

  42. The Big Banana Says:

    KoolKell Says:
    August 17th, 2009 at 3:09 pm
    Dakota

    Why do you think the US has such a high Infant Mortality Rate, Or such a Low Life Expectancy, and why do 47 million Americans are without access to health care?

    =====================================================

    Because all the hospitals are too busy providing care to the illegals to have enough resources to help it’s own people.

    You also have county hospitals and clinics shutting down due to poorly run gov programs like mcare and mcal. Many hospitals are now receiving IOUs and yet we now want to provide hcare for all. With what money?

  43. AZ Raider Says:

    Ehhh, good for Cable… Sets a “Smash mouth” tone in the locker room maybe… Funny.

  44. Brien the General Says:

    # The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    August 17th, 2009 at 3:21 pm

    Brien, so, the Raiders’ problem in recent years is that they didn’t have a wannabe tough guy showoff as head coach? How about Art Shell? Sure he didn’t punch anyone but he was as much of a tough guy as anyone. In fact, he was hired to instill discipline. 2-14. Oh, Joe Bugel was no slouch either. And let’s not forget, Callahan was known to call the team out and fight with players, coaches, whoever. We did great in his final year here too, didn’t we? It’s chaotic, and a team recovering from 6 years of failure needs inter staff chaos like they need their plane to go down. It’s like a recovering addict. Chaos is the worst environment. The Raiders need to be in sync, with every single player and coach focused on a common goal. As it stands, our players are just laughing while the coaches are fighting each other, laughing all the way to the bank, at that. While this may make you guys think highly of Cable, to the players it was like Jimmy vs. Timmy on South Park. A straight up retard fight. They don’t care. These guys see real fights at the bars and clubs, with people getting shot in some cases. Two grumpy old coaches brawling is a side show they do not need right now. They need to be focused.
    **************************

    See MR, this is why I’m back on here. I’m the only one who properly puts you in your place. I constantly destroy you crappy ass posts and will do it again………………

    First off mentioning Shell is worthless since he installed an offense that no one was gonna be successful in. We always talk about putting the best guys out there and he hated on Porter for Alvis Whitted which further alienated the team. He went to the facility to punk his players on the daily. Has Cable done that? No Cable isnt alienating players at all. Wow you mention Callahan and the 2003 but fail to mention how Al wanted to go young that year and get rid of all the vets but was talked into it by the players. Anyone with common sense saw that year we werent gonna do a damn thing. The team is in sync more than they have been at any point in the last 6 seasons

  45. KoolKell Says:

    Infant Mortality Rates by country

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_infant_mortality_rate

  46. crister Says:

    raider on raider crime is an ugly thing.
    the ghost of romanowski lives on.
    i wonder if hansen and shane are going to gget together and compare battle woonds?

  47. Brien the General Says:

    # The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    August 17th, 2009 at 3:24 pm

    Brien and whoever else asked: I haven’t been in a fist fight since I was in my early 20s. Sorry if that makes me a coward to you guys. How old is Tom Cable? The guy’s a showoff. I wish he’d showoff his ability to coach. I’m not impressed with his ability to beat up a coach who was probably half his size, anyway, as Cable is pretty big. Show me you can coach, Tom Cable, because I’m yet to see it.
    **************************

    No MR not fighting since your 20s doesnt make you a coward. You are by all means a grown ass man in his late 30s so you shouldnt have to fight I hope. Why are you assuming he is half his size. And if you have really fought inyour life or watch many fights sometimes the smaller guy will kick the bigger guy’s ass so again MR, what the fuk are you talking about?

  48. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    You look at Steeler, Colts, Patriots, Giants fans today and they’re talking about playoffs, Super Bowl chances, how they’ll get home field advantage…the level of discourse is miles higher than what it is amongst Raider fans. Our coach got into a fight with another coach. Wooooo…This is why the Raiders have been horrible for so long, and will remain horrible until Davis is out.

  49. Terrapin Says:

    I wouldn’t consider Dungy tough …he didn’t exactly have a team he needed to “whip” into shape either …pardon the pun

    just kiddin’ ….u made a point. but ppl lead in their own respective ways, there is no one way to do it

  50. Lynn from Snot Says:

    I’m sure Al has paid this guy off and it will be a non issue.

  51. KoolKell Says:

    Like Expectancy by country

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_life_expectancy

  52. Brien the General Says:

    And MR, how do you know the players think the fight was Timmy vs Jimmy? You talk to any of them? Heard their quotes? Let me know the inside information my brother

  53. Lynn from Snot Says:

    the Colts aren’t talking anything after their last game.

  54. Brien the General Says:

    MR, the colts fans arent talking a damn thing except that they know the end is near. Colts wont make the postseason this year. Guarantee it

  55. jhill Says:

    Polishing up the Madden skills …

    LOL at Cable! Would’ve given ANYTHING to see that!

  56. AZ Raider Says:

    Raider O Says:
    August 17th, 2009 at 3:25 pm
    I Don’t like our HC punching our staff in the face. A tough man can lead by example like Tony D!!
    ………………………………………………

    I agree, but fyck it. if that is the worst Cable does and the team keeps improving, so be it. Cable is old school. Remember what he said about Louis and Murphy going to blows? Must be the way he was raised, I don’t know…

  57. RaiderTW Says:

    TW, you are so funny….and you actually believe those things!
    ———-
    Oh yeah, Harriet Myers will go on trial. The Raiders will go 9-7 , MR & Narc0 will kick the sh!t outta their dogs! lol

  58. Chris in NY Says:

    Am I alone in the fact that I have more love and respect for Cable after hearing this report?

    Brock Lesner better watch his azz if he ever crosses Tommy “Gunn” Cable’s path.

  59. Dakota Says:

    KK,

    Why don’t you use some 2008 data?

    http://www.indexmundi.com/canada/infant_mortality_rate.html

  60. jhill Says:

    Raider on Raider crime?

    LMAO!

    That was a good one!

  61. Lynn from Snot Says:

    Time to fire up the overhead projector again.

  62. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    If the team is in sync right now Brien, as you laughably state in your last sentence of that diatribe, where you supposedly debunk my comment without even directly responding to my point (a lack of a tough guy coach has not been our problem, as you insisted beforehand), they’re only in sync in regards to being unprepared. The first string didnt’ look good last week against Dallas’s first string.

  63. Brien the General Says:

    So what Cable had to scraped a coach who may have underminded him. I mean after all we dont know if the damn guy was being insubordinate in front of the team making him look like a weak leader in front of his players

  64. jhill Says:

    Raider O Says:
    August 17th, 2009 at 3:25 pm
    I Don’t like our HC punching our staff in the face. A tough man can lead by example like Tony D!!
    ………………………………………………

    I agree, but fyck it.

    ——————————————–

    Couldn’t have said it any better dogg!

  65. Twocents Says:

    Hanson is an Al Davis worm. I like this Cable guy.

  66. jhill Says:

    Why don’t you use some 2008 data?

    ———————————————

    Details, details …

  67. KoolKell Says:

    Dakota

    Whatever data you want to use, it’s unflattering to the US vis a vie Western Europe and Scandinavia , can you at least recognize that?

  68. jhill Says:

    Time to fire up the overhead projector again.

    ————————————————–

    Too funny!

    You guys are in rare form today!

  69. DKnight007 Says:

    “IF” true, then we can’t fire head coach Cable thats for damn sure…..

  70. RaiderTW Says:

    Hanson was suspended by Kiffin after the defensive assistant openly questioned the Raiders’ game plan following a 41-14 season-opening loss to the then-Mike Shanahan-coached Denver Broncos.

    “It’s a good thing that Shanahan didn’t have our players,” Hanson reportedly blurted out in the presence of other coaches, “or else he would have beaten us 1,000-0.”
    ————-
    The difference between Kiffin & Cable? Cable knows how to handle a smart ass that works for him. Firing won’t do it!! Cable will get the same punishment Cheney got for giving a facial!lol

  71. AZ Raider Says:

    Fighting out of the Blue corner, wearing the Silver trunks with black trim, the reining Alameda heavywieght champion…….. Tom “The Cable Guy” Caaaaaaaaaaaabbllllllaaaaaahhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!

    And his opponent, fighting out of the blue corner. He is the brother of former Deffensive Coach Rob Ryan….. Rex “Fat” Rrrrrrrrrryan!!!!!!!

  72. Brien the General Says:

    # The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    August 17th, 2009 at 3:33 pm

    If the team is in sync right now Brien, as you laughably state in your last sentence of that diatribe, where you supposedly debunk my comment without even directly responding to my point (a lack of a tough guy coach has not been our problem, as you insisted beforehand), they’re only in sync in regards to being unprepared. The first string didnt’ look good last week against Dallas’s first string.
    ***************************

    Yawwwwwwwwwwwnnnnnnnnnnn. MR I did respond and tell you that using Shell means nothing because he whole plan to win was dead from jump street. You also mention Callahan and again I stated facts that you have no rebuttal against. Yes a lack of a tough coach or tough team has been our problem. Callahan wasnt tough at all but he would talk some shhhit. Norv was soft and so was Kiffin. Shell was a tough guy but coaching inthe wrong era and Al fuked up on that one. How did the first string not look good at all? I saw the offense have ability to pick up first downs. The oline blocked well enough and you still are ducking the Nnamdi question

  73. 4evaRaider Says:

    Art Shell didnt punch anyone (that we know of)=2-14

    Cable punched at least 1 guy and we’ll see what his record is this year.

  74. vegas raider Says:

    KoolKell,

    It is the McDonalds and all the fast-food crap people eat here.

  75. jhill Says:

    Cable better be on his p’s and q’s …

    Al Davis has “cause” to fire his arse now.

    Gruden?

    Gruden?

    Anyone?

  76. Dakota Says:

    KK,

    We all know that life expectancy is lower in the US than in nations that primarily consume fish and rice…of course we die a little sooner because guys like to eat KFC and McDonalds twice a day.

    The fact that you and your scare tactic Dem friends leave out is that life expectancy is at an all-time high in the US because of the wonderful medical breakthroughs our private health care system provides. It is a goddamned miracle we live as long as we do with all the fast food, drugs, ciggs, and booze we consume. Healthcare reform will not stop us from killing ourselves.

    http://www.webmd.com/news/20080611/life-expectancy-reaches-new-record

  77. Oakglenn Says:

    Dakota Says:
    August 17th, 2009 at 3:17 pm

    KK, Our infant mortality rate is almost the same as Canada 6.3 to 5.03
    ————————————————–

    If I am reading these statistics properly, our infant mortality rate would be over 25% higher than Canada’s. That seems extremely significant to me at least.

  78. RaiderTW Says:

    TW, you are so funny….and you actually believe those things!
    ———–
    I think we’ll get healthcare & if we do I think you will tear up your car hole!!! lo

  79. Raider Dell Says:

    Dakota

    “Hells Bells”

  80. Brien the General Says:

    Aw fuk Tony Dungy and his Christian Bible thumping ass. He is a damn good coach but different styles work for people. You cant expect a man to be any other man except himself

  81. Brien the General Says:

    # 4evaRaider Says:
    August 17th, 2009 at 3:38 pm

    Art Shell didnt punch anyone (that we know of)=2-14

    Cable punched at least 1 guy and we’ll see what his record is this year.
    ******************

    Art punched the entire team when he played Alvis Whitted over Jerry Porter. Team gave up from there and not to even mention that Flintstone ass offense

  82. KoolKell Says:

    Dakota

    Rationalize this. Standard of Living Index Worldwide

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_Development_Index

  83. jhill Says:

    ESPNNews just ran the story …

    They threw in a shot a Cable saying that Hanson never saw it coming.

  84. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    # Brien the General Says:
    August 17th, 2009 at 3:33 pm

    So what Cable had to scraped a coach who may have underminded him. I mean after all we dont know if the damn guy was being insubordinate in front of the team making him look like a weak leader in front of his players

    ………..

    It’s an NFL football team, Brien, not the mafia. The policy you seem to subscribe to is not one shared by the NFL’s winning teams. To be the best, you have to do what the best do. And, when the Raiders won in the good old days, that’s exactly what they did. They built great football teams. And the team took practice seriously. They really did play and practic “in sync”, despite their off the field antics, which they’re remembered for just as much as winning.

  85. vegas raider Says:

    The bigger question is what happens to Hanson. It would be difficult to believe the guy has much credibility left after the “incident” last year, than getting socked in the jaw by the HC this year. You have to can him.

  86. RaiderTW Says:

    Wouldn’t it be nice to get 47million diseased & potential diseased people healthcare? Or would Jesus just say “F@ck them too!!!” like the Repubs do ?

  87. Brien the General Says:

    And yeah Jhill, I have a problem with anyone on my football team that is soft. Huff’s soft play is inexcusable. When its time to tackle someone who looks weak doing it. Those crap ass arm tackles he does have lead to further big plays by the offense. Shutdown Gates,Gonzo and Winslow yeah but misses tackles and gets punish when they block vs his ass. Huff is trash.

  88. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Brien, the only point I made was that a lack of a wannabe tough guy coach has not been our problem. You respond by breaking down the coaching ability and game plans of our coaches. You respond to things that nobody ever said to give others, and perhaps even yourself, the impression that you’re winning an argument. Anyone paying attention with an unbiased view can clearly see what you’re doing. You’re only fooling idiots, and you can have them.

  89. Raider O Says:

    Players are chanting: “Cable Boombaye”
    -D White

    LMAO

  90. Brien the General Says:

    MR, how do you know guys arent taking practice seriously. Tell us what you saw when you were in Napa

  91. jhill Says:

    What about my other ?

  92. Norco Bob Says:

    Cool brien, we will see ya then,…nothing funnier then blog losers like those in here talking politics,..always good for a laugh.

  93. AZ Raider Says:

    Herrera himself almost decked that BSPN reporter last year LOL. Must be a Raider thing LOL.

    C’mon guys, it’s not that big a deal so long as Hansons feelings didn’t get hurt and we win games. You don’t think Rex Ryan would sock an asst? Shyt, we might see him walk right over to Bubblecheck and lay him out during the anthem before there first divisional game.

  94. RaiderRobG Says:

    I tend to keep politics out of my Raider discussions, but stop drinking the Kool-Aid, RaiderTW.

    I don’t care if the CEO makes 100 million. That’s his business, just like Chevron is a private business, just like, McDonalds, Ford, GM are all private business.

    What gets me is union destroying the ability of Ford GM and Chevy to make a profit. Fact is they sell just as many cars domestically than Toyota and Nissan, but those auto makers aren’t strapped by the insane demands of spoiled union workers. If the fast food industry had a union you could bet McDonalds would one day have there hand out to the government for some cash.

    Free markets society affords people the choice of quaility over government intrusion into the private sector. Health care in America is not a right, it is not in our consititution, and lastly it is not unaffordable.

    I pay 160 a month for my ppo. I have a contribution of 3,000. Yeah that’s a lot. But I plan for the unexpected. I choose to save money rather than get my nails done, or buy a lot of expensive toys. If I get sick and have to dip into that savings, them are the breaks, it’s called life. But no one gives me health care. I have health care because I choose to have it, and it’s just as easy for others to get it as well.

    It’s relative to what people place a higher priority on. I cannot count how many times I see interview with people bitching about not having health care and yet there wearing gold jewelry or sitting on a leather couch, or I see a mother with a weave and nail job she spent 200-300 dollars on so she could go clubbing with her girl friends. “GIRL FRIEND! Obama’s gonna buy me a car, pay my mortgage and get me health care so I’z can have all the abortions I want at the tax payers expense.”

    Screw that! And screw everyone who thinks they deserve to benefit off the hard work I do each and every day. I’ve got Raider tickets I want to buy, but the government wants me to pay for someones abortion. F that garbage!

    So stop with all this bull about excuses because at the end of the day the only thing stopping people from getting affordable health care is themselves. Not the CEO of Blue cross or Blue Shield. Themselves.

    America is a great place because of the people who take advantage of the freedom to prosper, not the people to use that same freedom to sit on their ass and do nothing or very little.

  95. RaiderTW Says:

    The bigger question is what happens to Hanson.
    ————
    He will be payed his salary for the rest of the season & sit on the floor at the right hand of Al until he testifies against Kiffin then given a doggy treat & kicked out the door.

  96. AZ Raider Says:

    vegas raider Says:
    August 17th, 2009 at 3:44 pm
    The bigger question is what happens to Hanson. It would be difficult to believe the guy has much credibility left after the “incident” last year, than getting socked in the jaw by the HC this year. You have to can him.
    ………………………………………………

    Na, now we have to give him a raise to shut his can. just win baby, punch whoever gets in your way LOL.

  97. jhill Says:

    Again, I’d like to know who the 3rd leading tackler on the the team 2 years in a row is “soft”?

    Arm tackler? I agree with that, but he is not Stuey Shygirl.

    It’s just a Texas thing. Same as the USC thing with you.

  98. RaiderRobG Says:

    And that’s all I got to say about that. Now back to football. FU(kin’ A!

  99. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Brien, it’s professional football, not street politics. You’re out of your mind if you think an NFL coach can lead a team to a Super Bowl waking into a training camp in July with the street thug mentality you’re glamorizing. Name one NFL head coach who has. Name one NFL head coach who ever won a Super Bowl starting the season off with an incident like this. I’d be willing to spot you Mike Ditka and Buddy Ryan, had it not been for the fact that they obviously never came to blows. What came of Houston’s ‘94 season after Buddy Ryan cold cocked Kevin Gilbride for disrespecting him and trying to punk him in front of the hood, or whatever it was? Ryan never did get back to a Super Bowl, in any capacity. Gilbride, on the other hand, the mark ass punk who got socked, coordinated the NY Giants to a SB victory a year ago.

  100. Mistabrown Says:

    Get’R done, Tom!

  101. Brien the General Says:

    # The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    August 17th, 2009 at 3:45 pm

    Brien, the only point I made was that a lack of a wannabe tough guy coach has not been our problem. You respond by breaking down the coaching ability and game plans of our coaches. You respond to things that nobody ever said to give others, and perhaps even yourself, the impression that you’re winning an argument. Anyone paying attention with an unbiased view can clearly see what you’re doing. You’re only fooling idiots, and you can have them.
    ******************************

    MR, you evidenced the one tough coach we had by his 2-14 record and I responded with why we were 2-14. My point is so what he chipped homeboy. The team for years has been soft.

    I remember Howie Long said about Shell’s first tenure and that the team felt good knowing their coach could kick someone’s ass. Now a hall of famer is saying that MR.

  102. 4evaRaider Says:

    the great Raider teams fought among themselves then on sunday beat the living sh!t out of the other team.And they had the personal fouls 2 prove it.Man when we used 2 play the squaws those were the days(edith bunker singing in back ground).The Nfl has really cleaned itself up from when I was a kid

  103. jhill Says:

    Huff is from Texas so he rolls with that cowboy hogg dragg down method. Grab on, hold on, and ride em down.

  104. DKnight007 Says:

    Screw the crooked GOP with their lies, greed, hypocrisy and corruption which has torn down this country and now Obama has to build it back up!

  105. RaiderTW Says:

    Those idiots come to these town hall meetings more to be seen than heard, and think creating chaos makes them great Americans.
    We hear that all of this is democracy in action. It’s not. It’s boom-box democracy, people thinking that if they somehow make enough noise on this subject, they can make Obama into a one-term President.
    The most violent opposition isn’t directed at his ideas about health care reform. It is directed at him. It is about him. They couldn’t make enough of a majority to beat the Harvard-educated black guy out of the White House, so they will beat him on an issue where they see him as being most vulnerable.
    In the process, they’ll come after him on health care the way Kenneth Starr went after Bill Clinton on oral sex in the Oval Office.
    With that kind of zealotry, screaming about government programs as if Medicare isn’t one. It is why so many of them, all these wild-eyed red faces in the crowd, look completely certifiable, screaming about how Obama wants to kill Grandma, as if he’s suddenly turned into Jack Kevorkian.

  106. Brien the General Says:

    # The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    August 17th, 2009 at 3:50 pm

    Brien, it’s professional football, not street politics. You’re out of your mind if you think an NFL coach can lead a team to a Super Bowl waking into a training camp in July with the street thug mentality you’re glamorizing. Name one NFL head coach who has. Name one NFL head coach who ever won a Super Bowl starting the season off with an incident like this. I’d be willing to spot you Mike Ditka and Buddy Ryan, had it not been for the fact that they obviously never came to blows. What came of Houston’s ‘94 season after Buddy Ryan cold cocked Kevin Gilbride for disrespecting him and trying to punk him in front of the hood, or whatever it was? Ryan never did get back to a Super Bowl, in any capacity. Gilbride, on the other hand, the mark ass punk who got socked, coordinated the NY Giants to a SB victory a year ago.
    **************************

    No this shhhhhhhit is war. Modern day athletes would be the warriors back in ancient times and there is no disputing this I hope.

    Ha you mention the oilers season of 94. Well MR this is how you get slapped again! Who was the QB in 1993 and then who was in 1994 for Houston? I’ll wait……………….

  107. Brien the General Says:

    Jhill no one is ass bad a Schwiegert

  108. jhill Says:

    It’s a non story. It happened how long ago?

    Like BHP says …

    Move along, noting to see here!

  109. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    4evaRaider Says:
    August 17th, 2009 at 3:52 pm

    the great Raider teams fought among themselves then on sunday beat the living sh!t out of the other team.

    ……….

    Stop lying! Name one good Raider season that started off with a coach getting into an all out brawl with another coach? You guys have such a delusional view of your own team it’s sad. Read up on the Raider’s history. Read the books written by the players on those great teams. Sure, players scuffled between plays during practice. But never did coaches duke it out in front of the team. You guys have literally formed your own versions of Raider history in your own delusional minds. It’s not based on reality.

  110. 24 Says:

    So Hanson gets suspended by Kiffin and Kiffin is gone for cause while Cable punches Hanson in the face. Lets hope Cable isn’t gone for cause as well.

  111. Raiderbenz Says:

    I still say Cable should suit up if he can man up.

  112. jhill Says:

    Huff and his 8 INTs this year will have you changing your story!

  113. KoolKell Says:

    RaiderRobG

    You pay for everyone who goes to the Emergency Room because they don’t have a Doctor, NOW. We ALL do. You and I and everybody who has health insurance pays for the 43 million who don’t. Get it?

  114. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Brien the General Says:
    August 17th, 2009 at 3:54 pm

    ” Modern day athletes would be the warriors back in ancient times and there is no disputing this I hope.”

    Brien, you have lost it. Entirely.

  115. Brien the General Says:

    And MR, why does punching someone in the face have to be a “street thug” mentality? People in the rural or suburban areas dont punch people? Wow some of you guys in here everyday let out who you truly are all the time if you know what I mean. “Street thug” is referring to a certain type of people? Let me know man

  116. AZ Raider Says:

    David Whites twitters shows Players chanting “Cable Bombay” during stretches LOL.

    I guess the players like it!

  117. Brien the General Says:

    # The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    August 17th, 2009 at 3:57 pm

    Brien the General Says:
    August 17th, 2009 at 3:54 pm

    ” Modern day athletes would be the warriors back in ancient times and there is no disputing this I hope.”

    Brien, you have lost it. Entirely.
    ***********************

    My hopes just went down the drain then. Thanks MR for letting me down

  118. Brien the General Says:

    AZ Raider……..great post!!!! The players didnt like it according to ESPN insider MR

  119. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Brien, this is all you do. You change the topic. Nobody’s talking about Houston’s QB. Totally beside the point. There is no way Houston’s QB, who I believe was Warren Moon but I really don’t care, refutes the point I made about Gilbride and B. Ryan. You’re just trying to win an argument. You’re acting like a complete moron.

  120. 4evaRaider Says:

    I said great Raider teams Mr not Raider coaches so you stop lying.If you havent noticed coaches coach the team.The team is the players

  121. steelyone Says:

    Alright…first impression…ut oh! but…some guys make a good point…Coach is a tuff guy….and the Players know it….might not be all that bad.

    Carry on Nation

  122. DKnight007 Says:

    Marley,

    I don’t think I’ll be able to play in your FF league man.

    I’m in too many leagues as it is!

  123. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    OK, sure, Brien. NFL football players would be warriors in a previous life. Whatever, buddy. You know, we do have warriors now. They’re called the armed forces.

  124. Florida Pete Says:

    240.Florida Pete Says:
    August 17th, 2009 at 4:00 pm
    Dakota Says:
    August 17th, 2009 at 1:18 pm
    Sorry MR, I know exactly what cap and trade is and as soon as the average American finds out what it is this Presidency is over and out.

    :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

    and that’s really all it’s about with republicans…

    has been for some time… there is no Democrat that is worthy of the office of President… and so let the smearing begin…

    if i were still a republican, i would be embarrassed…

    no nation building… unless it’s us doing it???

    no deficit spending… unless it’s us doing it???

    no welfare for the poor… but let’s have welfare for the corporations (well, certainly the ones that donate to us)…

    no war without a plan for ending it… unless it’s us that’s doing it…

    no major social programs… unless we figure we can buy a few million votes with a prescription drug debacle…

    excuse me… but knowing i used to be a republican is starting to make me ill…

    i know that you make me sick…

    Leave a Reply

  125. AZ Raider Says:

    Yeah Brien, BSPN will bash ANYTHING Raiders… But we know this.

    Just goes to show, the players have bought into Cables coaching, so the wins should follow. If we have to ounch and Assnt to get a win, line ‘em up and keep the ambulance readily availible.

  126. jhill Says:

    bydavidwhite You can’t make this stuff up.
    16 minutes ago from mobile web

    bydavidwhite Raider players doing the Ali-Frasier chant for Tom Cable while stretching. Dead serious. “Cable boombaye”
    17 minutes ago from mobile web

  127. vegas raider Says:

    TW,

    Yes Medicare is a government program, but it isn’t free. You have to work for years to be eligible for Part A, and part’s B and D can cost hundreds of dollars a month.

    Healthcare is a racket and the government just wants in on the action. If you think otherwise you are naive.

  128. RaiderRobG Says:

    The Real MaddenRaider .99

    Good point.

    Let’s hope this is not the case, and just an isolated incident that won’t fester into the drama that the big boys like to promote. That’s being said, if the Raiders fall flat on their face by mid-season, I certainly would mind Al Davis shocking the world and giving Bill Cower an offer he could not refuse.

  129. Dakota Says:

    Hey Dell, thanks!

  130. jhill Says:

    bydavidwhite Speaking of practice, welcome back to Napa, Jeff Garcia, his 1st of camp.

    —————————————————

    Sorry B!

  131. Brien the General Says:

    Oh my bad I did forget Ryan went to AZ right after 93 year. All I do? MR changing the topic and running off at a tangent has been your whole thing on this site. You using what happened between two damn coordinators is ridiculous though. They went head coaches and exactly what did Gilbride do as a head coach? Just like Ryan he did nada. You mention 14 years later in super bowl as evidence of the guy who got slugged fared better

  132. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    4eva, nobody’s talking about players fighting. Nobody criticized players fighting, Jerry, me, or anyone else. You’re using player squabbles to justify COACHES fighting! Coaches! Listen to yourself. This is a sign that things are still chaotic in Oakland, not a sign that we have a tough coach. I don’t care if Cable kicks everyone’s ass on the sideline, until he learns to stand up to Al the way Kiffin and Gruden did, he’s too big of a puzzy to be a successful coach for the Oakland Raiders, despite all of his antics amongst other coaches.

  133. RaiderTW Says:

    You said it all Pete! Good for you,.
    I think Cable should give him 2 more for flinching!!!

  134. Brien the General Says:

    Jhill, why be sorry to me? Garbage-cia is a nobody

  135. Mistabrown Says:

    KK,
    I have a question that only a race card pulling bigot narrow minded fool like you can answer.

    Why did D McNabb cry like a little bich when Philly drafted that white kid 2 drafts ago. Yet when Philly signed M Vick a Black Qb and more of a threat to McNabbs career than the rookie white kid McNabb not only didnt cry like the campbell soup sipping dweeb that he is he ENDORSED signing Vick!

    Help me understand KK..

  136. AZ Raider Says:

    Brien the General Says:
    August 17th, 2009 at 3:58 pm
    AZ Raider……..great post!!!! The players didnt like it according to ESPN insider MR
    ……………………………………………..

    Oh, I thought you were really talking ESPN LOL…. Didn’t catch the last part.

  137. Terrapin Says:

    ah boy, why did i have to think of Gooddell? and his overzealous asz …darn i hope nothing comes of it

    (suspending vick for the beginning of the season put him one step closer to ridiculous)

  138. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    BRIEN, SO I GOT THE F’N YEAR WRONG! GIVE ME A F’N BREAK! IT DOESN’T CHANGE MY POINT. I FORGET WHAT YEAR IT WAS, OK? WHATEVER YEAR IT WAS WHERE B. RYAN SOCKED GILBRIDE. MY MISSING THE YEAR DOESN’T WEAKEN MY POINT. MY POINT STANDS, YOU DESPERATE MORON.

  139. Brien the General Says:

    Things arent that chaotic in Oakland as they were last year MR. I know you love when negative things happen to the Raiders but really this isnt even a big deal at all. At least it isnt old man Willie Brown scraping a cornerback like he did in 2004 lol

  140. Chris in NY Says:

    Huff plays soft. No doubt about that. He plays like a corner. Maybe he could be a good NFL corner. If he gets more aggressive he can play safety. But in 3 seasons when has he ever blasted a WR or come up and stuffed a running play near the line of scrimmage?

  141. Brien the General Says:

    MR, how does your point stand? You used what happened between two coordinators not the head coach. Then you used Gilbride being the O coordinator for the Giants as his vindication. No you are the moron. Wait wait wait wait. And its hilarious you try to use Gilbride to help you out here when you were dogging the man bad when he was linked to the Raiders as coach lol

  142. Brien the General Says:

    # Chris in NY Says:
    August 17th, 2009 at 4:07 pm

    Huff plays soft. No doubt about that. He plays like a corner. Maybe he could be a good NFL corner. If he gets more aggressive he can play safety. But in 3 seasons when has he ever blasted a WR or come up and stuffed a running play near the line of scrimmage?
    ************************

    Yes and the Raiders can ill-afford to have that going on with any player on defense

  143. RaiderTW Says:

    Healthcare is a racket and the government just wants in on the action. If you think otherwise you are naive.
    —————-
    Except gov getting in on it makes their end NONPROFIT(some racket huh?) so it will lower costs for ALL. We are the biggest industialized country not to do it. The only problem is how to pay. Make the richest pay! Also it will create 400,000 new jobs which Dakota doesn’t want to see happen because that means 0bama is suceeding.

  144. KoolKell Says:

    Mistabrown Says:
    August 17th, 2009 at 4:05 pm
    KK,
    I have a question that only a race card pulling bigot narrow minded fool like you can answer.

    Why did D McNabb cry like a little bich when Philly drafted that white kid 2 drafts ago. Yet when Philly signed M Vick a Black Qb and more of a threat to McNabbs career than the rookie white kid McNabb not only didnt cry like the campbell soup sipping dweeb that he is he ENDORSED signing Vick!

    Help me understand KK..
    ———————-
    Why don’t you ask your skanky-assed wife?

  145. Mistabrown Says:

    You guys still discussing Barback 0bam@s failed GOVT takeover of the best health care in the world?

    Guess what the Country is rejecting 0bam@ & socialism. Barb@ck has pissed away all the political clout the amer people gave him after he got elected. The party is over!

    It will be another 20-25 years before a Dem gets back in the White House!

  146. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    RaiderRobG, Davis give Cowher an offer he can’t refuse? Davis already gave Sean Payton, Bobby Petrino, and Ken Whisenhunt those offers…they refused. So will Cowher. The kind of chaos we’re talking about right now is exactly why. I can see Al trying to sell Cowher on the job by explaining to him that even though he’ll meddle, he’ll allow him to punch his assistant coaches if they get out of line. Cowher’s out. No real head coach will ever work for Al Davis again. That’s why we have Cable.

  147. Mistabrown Says:

    KK, thats your answer ?

    I thought you were going to take that 1 by the horns! Its right up your alley Bro!

    Lets see whos another race card pulling bigot! Hey Priest do you wanna take the question I gave KK on post #135 ?

  148. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Yeh, MB, the country really rejected Obama last November at the polls, didn’t they? And, his health care plan was on the table then. What you’re seeing now is nothing more than a propaganda drive by the insurance companies.

  149. exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:

    Per David White, Sands returned to practice. My question, Why? Pratice dosn’t help Turd.

  150. Brien the General Says:

    # The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    August 17th, 2009 at 3:50 pm

    Brien, it’s professional football, not street politics. You’re out of your mind if you think an NFL coach can lead a team to a Super Bowl waking into a training camp in July with the street thug mentality you’re glamorizing. Name one NFL head coach who has. Name one NFL head coach who ever won a Super Bowl starting the season off with an incident like this. I’d be willing to spot you Mike Ditka and Buddy Ryan, had it not been for the fact that they obviously never came to blows. What came of Houston’s ‘94 season after Buddy Ryan cold cocked Kevin Gilbride for disrespecting him and trying to punk him in front of the hood, or whatever it was? Ryan never did get back to a Super Bowl, in any capacity. Gilbride, on the other hand, the mark ass punk who got socked, coordinated the NY Giants to a SB victory a year ago.
    **************************

    Actually read what you said again. You said what came of the 94 season. That was the 93 year and it was on the last game of the season on ESPN vs the Jets. Houston was on thier way to be 12-4 with a bye going into the playoffs. You using the fact that Gilbride got socked as proof that he was vindicated on that day from that incident. Come on man your facts were completely off here. I’m glad I went and read it again

  151. exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:

    That’s practice. lol

  152. RaiderRobG Says:

    LOL! Now that’s funny! For a moment there I forgot we’re talking about Al Davis.

    Thanks for ruining my pleasant albeit very brief vision of football utopia.

  153. Dakota Says:

    Lol….400,000 new jobs TW? You know what those jobs are? More bureaucrats enforcing the government’s side of health care….for which the tax payers will have to pay. Do you honestly believe that the Obama will only tax the wealthy and make up the rest of the costs of this healthcare from the program itself? Are you insane? The government can’t even turn a profit with the post office, let alone run an insurance program.

    Thank god and the blue dogs it is failing.

  154. Mistabrown Says:

    Id love to know why McNabb endorses signing Vick but damn near asked for a trade when Reid drafted the white kid 2 years ago! Nothing to do with the color of skin I suppose! And who is perpetuating race in this Country ?

    Someone help me understand…

  155. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Brien, you’re right. I was talking about coaches fighting each other, and not head coaches in particular. You win the argument. But I’ll make the point anyway, coaches getting physical with their staff or players does not translate to winning in this league. But you won the argument about me failing to be specific as to Gilbride not being a head coach. You won the argument, dude. You won. It’s over.

  156. Terrapin Says:

    Damn Goodell is going to suspend him. I remember he suspended Steve Smith last year for getting into a fight a practice.

    You see thats Goodell’s problem …he sets these crazy precedents so now him must follow them or look unfair. Micromanaging ppl.

  157. Florida Pete Says:

    healthcare should be paid for by corporations and the very wealthiest americans…

    it should be single payer…

    it would allow US corporations to no longer have union strife related to health care…

    it would allow US corporations to compete without the burden of having to offer health care packages to their employees… this would save US Corporations billions of dollars and make US goods and services vastly more competitive…

    it should be done because it’s good business…

  158. Brien the General Says:

    # exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:
    August 17th, 2009 at 4:13 pm

    Per David White, Sands returned to practice. My question, Why? Pratice dosn’t help Turd.
    *********************

    Its a damn shame to. Al paid him that money and the guy just stinks

    Oh god they have warren sapp on the NLFN right now. Fuk that guy

  159. Norco Bob Says:

    TW is the typical dipsh!t that thinks the president is doing something for him,..hes not,..but youre too stupid to realize it.

  160. Mistabrown Says:

    TW gets his stats & information from Sesame Street.

  161. dtrain Says:

    Jerry,
    Thank you for your updates, I appreciate them. I also like to read some of your Twitter updates, and am glad you give us a connection to the Raiders practices. But please, don’t try and be funny, you aren’t. And please don’t add extra commentary, like “janikoski , boink! again” or “murphy not EVEN practicing but being worked on” just stick to the info, it’s writes itself, there is no need for embellishing!

  162. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Brien, you’re right. I said ‘94. I forgot what year it was. You won. You won the argument Brien. I was just trying to make the point that while Gilbride might have looked like a punk that day, he still wound up with another Super Bowl ring, while Ryan didn’t go on to do much of anything. But you won, it’s over. It’s a wrap. You won, because I got the year wrong. It’s all over. You’re the undisputed victor, Brien, as usual.

  163. Brien the General Says:

    # The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    August 17th, 2009 at 4:15 pm

    Brien, you’re right. I was talking about coaches fighting each other, and not head coaches in particular. You win the argument. But I’ll make the point anyway, coaches getting physical with their staff or players does not translate to winning in this league. But you won the argument about me failing to be specific as to Gilbride not being a head coach. You won the argument, dude. You won. It’s over.
    ********************

    It has nada really to do with winning or losing. Its the fact that you hate the Raiders and you want all negativity to go on with the organization because it somehow then makes you feel like you are right about things

  164. Mistabrown Says:

    Yeah Pete all the under achievers should sponge off the wealthy folks!

    Good idea Pete! Pete for President!

    Socialism we can believe in right Pete !

  165. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Norco, Obama’s trying to do a heck of a lot more for us than the previous administration did. Isn’t that what the health insurance companies and their hired goons are so worried about?

  166. Brien the General Says:

    No MR, you said what happened tothe team tjat year. They won the division…….actually already had it won and had a first round bye in the playoffs. You were trying to use it as evidence that it will ruin the season. no a coach like Kiffin quitting on the team ruins the season

  167. Raider Dell Says:

    The health care comments in here, are these comments related to the punch Hansen took to the jaw.

    Just wondering, at least Brien and MR our on topic.

  168. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Brien, you’re right, you won. I hate the Raiders and I’m negative. You won, dude! It’s over. You won. I just don’t think the Raiders have a chance of competing in this league until Al Davis, who’s proven himself to be incapable of running a team in the modern day game, retires from football operation. But you’re right. I hate the Raiders, and I’m negative. You won the argument, dude, you won! Yay!

  169. vegas raider Says:

    TW,

    Make the richest pay, ya class warfare, real nice. More idealogical nonsense.

    My wife works for the only somewhat successful government run healthcare, the VA. The only reason it works, is no illegals, they use mostly generic pharms only, and these guys and girls are former marines and such, they don’t get come in everytime little Johnnie gets a cold. None of that would be true with a public option.

  170. Brien the General Says:

    What is Obama gonna do for us? I have yet to see it. Troops back from Iraq yet?

  171. SilverAndBlackBleeder Says:

    David White’s Tweet of the Raiders chanting out “Cable bumaye” while stretching for today’s practice is hilarious! Thats the chant that the crowd did when Ali fought Formean in Africa, so it’s good to see the team is laughing the whole matter off while the media will surely blow the story up 10 times more than it needs to be.

  172. Brien the General Says:

    # The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    August 17th, 2009 at 4:20 pm

    Brien, you’re right, you won. I hate the Raiders and I’m negative. You won, dude! It’s over. You won. I just don’t think the Raiders have a chance of competing in this league until Al Davis, who’s proven himself to be incapable of running a team in the modern day game, retires from football operation. But you’re right. I hate the Raiders, and I’m negative. You won the argument, dude, you won! Yay!
    ******************************

    I’m not even a big fan of the Gruden years really but was 2000-2002 modern or old days of football?

  173. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Brien, the point I made about Houston the year Gilbride got socked was that they didn’t win a Super Bowl. Gilbride would go on to win one. All I remember about Hoston in the ’90s is that they were persistent, overrated chokers. But you win, it’s over. You won the argument. You’re the best arguer, dude. It’s over.

  174. Brien the General Says:

    # SilverAndBlackBleeder Says:
    August 17th, 2009 at 4:21 pm

    David White’s Tweet of the Raiders chanting out “Cable bumaye” while stretching for today’s practice is hilarious! Thats the chant that the crowd did when Ali fought Formean in Africa, so it’s good to see the team is laughing the whole matter off while the media will surely blow the story up 10 times more than it needs to be.
    *******************

    That is what I wanna hear!!!

  175. Norco Bob Says:

    Ya ok MR,..lol

  176. RaiderDogg Says:

    I knew Cable delivered the blow! Read the 2nd sentence…

    RaiderDogg Says:
    August 17th, 2009 at 12:45 pm
    My guess is that Hanson was discovered as the coach that kept feeding stories to Mike Lombardi so they tried to shut him up by breaking his jaw. Cable probably did it himself. After Hanson was released from the hospital he was seen on his cell phone, presumably speaking with MIKE LOMBARDI!

  177. KoolKell Says:

    MistaBrownStains

    “Yeah Pete all the under achievers should sponge off the wealthy folks”!
    ———————
    You po-assed mfkr. I bet you ain’t got 2 nickels. wtf are you talking about? lol

  178. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Brien, I know I’m wrong and you’re right, but I really believe the reason we won between ‘00 and 02 was because Gruden took control of the team and implemented a winning system, and I also believe Al ran him out of here for being so forward with his coaching style. But you win. It’s over. It’s a wrap. You smacked me down, yet again.

  179. 4evaRaider Says:

    well players of the same team fight…coaches of the same team fight…SO WHAT this is football…they fight,they shake hands or they dont…they get over it or they dont…But they are all still driven by the desire 2 win…winning cures everything and this sh!t happens all the time but as someone said earlier it is usually kept in house.Hanson didnt want the law or the mediots involved and I can see why because some fans have 2 make it a bigger deal than it is.Fukk it and move on

  180. Mistabrown Says:

    MR thinks when Barb@ck takes over something with Govt bureaucracy the intent is “doing something for the little guy”. Wakeup MR you are nothing but a stooge to the DEM party who buys into this garbage!

  181. Norco Bob Says:

    I would rather have no health care then a government run one.

  182. Brien the General Says:

    # The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    August 17th, 2009 at 4:22 pm

    Brien, the point I made about Houston the year Gilbride got socked was that they didn’t win a Super Bowl. Gilbride would go on to win one. All I remember about Hoston in the ’90s is that they were persistent, overrated chokers. But you win, it’s over. You won the argument. You’re the best arguer, dude. It’s over.
    ******************

    Wait wait wait now you are trying to backtrack a bit lol. Before you were trying to use it as evidence for a debacle because you believe the Raiders will be a debacle in 2009. Dont tell me I’m lying. Now its about the super bowl. LOL I have heard you many times try to suggest otherwise. Only one team wins so therefore Houston was a failure? So then why do you always say other franchises that havent won a damn thing lately just like the Raiders are in better shape than we are? MR is are hilarious. I have no clue why people dont like you but I do

  183. Norco Bob Says:

    Mista there are alot of stupid people that think this administration is any different then the previous one.

  184. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Brien, all I said was that Obama is at least trying to do more for us than Bush did, especially with health care. I think Obama is doing as much as he can to get us out of Iraq without burning the few bridges he has with the military. I wish he’d just yank the troops, but he just wont’ do it. He’s riding the fence on the issue, unlike being a hawk the way Bush and Cheney were. But you’re right, Brien. You win.

  185. Mistabrown Says:

    KK you have yet to make a coherent reply to any of my posts. You look like nothing but a dam fool with your psycho babble.

    Answer the quest KK…explain McNabbs hypocrisy. If its not race related tell me what it is.

  186. big chill Says:

    this is just a report it’s is reportedly cable is the guy who punched him or allegedly, maybe the idiot was trying to sabotage them and undermine what cable is trying to do have you seen a picture of him he looks like a jerk just seeing his picture makes me want to punch him, lol and i’m a lover not a fighter lol anyway i don’t know why its a big deal it happened on aug 3 or 4 and this is the 17th come one now, someone is just trying to throw some salt on the Raiders game because they are fearing us, the raiders are back and so is the nation……

  187. Brien the General Says:

    # The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    August 17th, 2009 at 4:24 pm

    Brien, I know I’m wrong and you’re right, but I really believe the reason we won between ‘00 and 02 was because Gruden took control of the team and implemented a winning system, and I also believe Al ran him out of here for being so forward with his coaching style. But you win. It’s over. It’s a wrap. You smacked me down, yet again.
    **************************

    Aw come on MR. Dont be such a poor sport. If no one else is your friend on this site, you have a friend in me

    Cable Bumbaye!

  188. Brien the General Says:

    # Norco Bob Says:
    August 17th, 2009 at 4:25 pm

    I would rather have no health care then a government run one.
    *****************
    me too

  189. Raider Dell Says:

    It’s official

    BSPN is on our bandwagon—–scary to think we have turned some talking heads 180 degrees.

  190. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Brien, you’re not going to scare me out of here. I know what you’re doing, and it will never work. You’ve used personal attacks, even threats, to try to get me out of here and it’s never going to work. What you do every day, however, is try to win arguments by finding any error you can in my comment, even if it’s completely off topic. You called me out on getting the year wrong where B. Ryan punched Gilbride, and tried to use that as your knock out blow. You’re a desperate fool. I don’t know what you do for a living or why you defend this team so much, when considering the past 6 years, it’s pretty much indefensible, but whatever the case your game isn’t going to work. The Raiders will never win with Al Davis in charge, and I’m going to talk about that every day, and use the PRESENT state of this team to support my point.

  191. Mistabrown Says:

    MR, one day you will realise 0bam@ & the DEM party arent doing anything for you. Or maybe you’ll just be ignorant your whole adult life I dont know.

    Explain how socialism & govt taking over pvt business is good for you & me!

    The party is over 4 0bam@ he pissed away the chips he had with his election. This left wing radical bull$hit sunk him 6 months in.

    lmao

  192. KoolKell Says:

    BrownStains

    Fuk you and your questions. I treat you like the piece of shyt you are.

  193. exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:

    JerryMac reports that John Madden is at practice. He says Madden is a huge boxing fan. LMFAO

  194. Brien the General Says:

    # The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    August 17th, 2009 at 4:26 pm

    Brien, all I said was that Obama is at least trying to do more for us than Bush did, especially with health care. I think Obama is doing as much as he can to get us out of Iraq without burning the few bridges he has with the military. I wish he’d just yank the troops, but he just wont’ do it. He’s riding the fence on the issue, unlike being a hawk the way Bush and Cheney were. But you’re right, Brien. You win.
    ****************************

    MR, I hate seeing you act so defeated like this. Cheep good fellow. I’m your friend

  195. RaiderTW Says:

    GM moved it’s car assembly to Canada because it’s cheaper labor, you know why? THEY don’t have to pay their employees’ HEALTHCARE. This is one of the reasons GM went under. NOW the banks are paying back the borrowed money you Repubs have been cryin’ about. 0bama is more of a sucess than you would ever admit. America doesn’t need the rest of you 21%ers who don’t recognize reality, we’ll move on without you just fine. Free speech & yelling, next best thing to being right.. Hahahahahaha

  196. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Norco Bob, you can keep your health care. But a lot of people need health care, and would benefit from a government plan. You’re in here way too much to be earning more than 250k/year, so you won’t be taxed to cover the cost. It’s none of your concern.

  197. Chris in NY Says:

    # Mistabrown Says:
    August 17th, 2009 at 4:10 pm

    You guys still discussing Barback 0bam@s failed GOVT takeover of the best health care in the world?

    Guess what the Country is rejecting 0bam@ & socialism. Barb@ck has pissed away all the political clout the amer people gave him after he got elected. The party is over!

    It will be another 20-25 years before a Dem gets back in the White House!

    ——————–

    Keep telling yourself that and maybe it’ll come true. Right after the Republicans find the proof that Obama was secretly born outside the U.S.

  198. jhill Says:

    bydavidwhite Not to be outdone, Justin Fargas just smokes Kirk Morrison deep.
    4 minutes ago from mobile web

    bydavidwhite Poor Sam Williams, worked by Lorenzo Neal, then Oren O’Neal.
    4 minutes ago from mobile web

  199. Raider Dell Says:

    Later guys have a good evening.

  200. vegas raider Says:

    I think the Burgess situation might have been more of a distraction for the players than this. We might know a little more after Cable speaks, but I doubt he gives us anything. If he is serious about it, than it might still be an issue, if he kind of laughs it off, than I bet it is a non-issue with the players, especially if they are cutting jokes about it.

  201. 4evaRaider Says:

    fukk bspn once a hater always a hater,imo

  202. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    MB, I never said that socialism was good for you and me. I don’t know you. But I know that some socialized programs can be beneficial to a lot of Americans. I think you purposely said “you and me” to speak for everyone, when you obviously don’t speak for everyone. The number of people uninsured in this country is staggering, considering its wealth. You do not speak for them. And Norco and Brien saying they’d rather have no coverage than government coverage are hilarious. Wait till one of them gets into a car accident, which wont’ be far away, considering how much they drink, and they see their hospital bill. Just fools.

  203. Mistabrown Says:

    Awwww KK is steaming, poor guy!

    lol

  204. RogRaiderFan Says:

    “Why did D McNabb cry like a little bich when Philly drafted that white kid 2 drafts ago. Yet when Philly signed M Vick a Black Qb and more of a threat to McNabbs career than the rookie white kid McNabb not only didnt cry like the campbell soup sipping dweeb that he is he ENDORSED signing Vick!”

    people always try to twist the facts mcnabb never cried about kolb he said it was a surprise to him the team drafted a qb so high and they never told him idiots will always try to twist the facts to make their point work

  205. RaiderDogg Says:

    4eva

    sipping daq’s yet? I know you must be done cloneing around by now, unless you live in a damn warehouse…

  206. Brien the General Says:

    # The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    August 17th, 2009 at 4:29 pm

    Brien, you’re not going to scare me out of here. I know what you’re doing, and it will never work. You’ve used personal attacks, even threats, to try to get me out of here and it’s never going to work. What you do every day, however, is try to win arguments by finding any error you can in my comment, even if it’s completely off topic. You called me out on getting the year wrong where B. Ryan punched Gilbride, and tried to use that as your knock out blow. You’re a desperate fool. I don’t know what you do for a living or why you defend this team so much, when considering the past 6 years, it’s pretty much indefensible, but whatever the case your game isn’t going to work. The Raiders will never win with Al Davis in charge, and I’m going to talk about that every day, and use the PRESENT state of this team to support my point.
    *****************************

    LOL MR is scrambling and he is offended. Personal attacks is something you have done repeatedly on this site but now you cry when someone else does it to you. I havent even personally attacked you in a while MR. As for the Gilbride/Ryan thing you were trying to apply it to Cable insinuating the team would take a fall for it. The past 6 years isthe past 6 years. I never said things were perfect but when I’m not 100 pct doom and gloom like you want there is a problem. Completely off topic? No I was on topic all the way through. We were talking about the first stringers and how were completely lying again then it went to how Cable socked old boy. I didnt go off topic. You are just butt hurt about me back on this site and you cant run circles around me like you do everyone else. But I give you credit when its due my friend

  207. RaiderTW Says:

    Make the richest pay, ya class warfare, real nice. More idealogical nonsense.
    ————–
    Repeal Bushs’ tax cut for the rich & it will be paid for. Are you rich if not why are you pulling for the top 3%? You guys always vote against your self interest, real smart!!!

  208. 4evaRaider Says:

    What you do every day, however, is try to win arguments by finding any error you can in my comment, even if it’s completely off topic.

    Well if that aint the kettle calling the pot black

  209. Brien the General Says:

    “Wait till one of them gets into a car accident, which wont’ be far away, considering how much they drink, and they see their hospital bill. Just fools.”

    LOL so MR wishing bad on me and Bob or just me or is it Bob. I cant tell since Bob and I are the same person lol

  210. RaiderTW Says:

    # Norco Bob Says:
    I would rather have no health care then a government run one.
    —————–
    I’d rather you didn’t have healthcare either.

  211. Mistabrown Says:

    MR I agree there are some people that want & need insurance. We can do something for them. We need to reform HC not a GOVT takeover!

    There are illegal aliens draining the system as we speak. I dont see any politician on either side mentioning that. You can walk across the border and go directly to a Emergency room and get taken care of. Thats so wrong!

  212. Brien the General Says:

    # 4evaRaider Says:
    August 17th, 2009 at 4:36 pm

    What you do every day, however, is try to win arguments by finding any error you can in my comment, even if it’s completely off topic.

    Well if that aint the kettle calling the pot black
    *********************

    4eva, this is why I’m needed on this site. I wonder can I change my screen name. Call it Brien the MR Killa

  213. Brien the General Says:

    # Mistabrown Says:
    August 17th, 2009 at 4:38 pm

    MR I agree there are some people that want & need insurance. We can do something for them. We need to reform HC not a GOVT takeover!

    There are illegal aliens draining the system as we speak. I dont see any politician on either side mentioning that. You can walk across the border and go directly to a Emergency room and get taken care of. Thats so wrong!
    ************************

    I agree

  214. 4evaRaider Says:

    Dogg finished up about an hour ago and everything is gonna be just fine =)

  215. Mistabrown Says:

    Complete lie Rog, whatever a Rog is! McNabb asked to be released, do you have a short memory ?

    # RogRaiderFan Says:
    August 17th, 2009 at 4:35 pm

    people always try to twist the facts mcnabb never cried about kolb he said it was a surprise to him the team drafted a qb so high and they never told him idiots will always try to twist the facts to make their point work

  216. KoolKell Says:

    BrownStains

    Damn, you’re stupid!!!

  217. jhill Says:

    Is there a humanitarian side to this argument?

    You mean to tell me that if a person walked into a hospital and needed treatment, you would have to “define” that person before you decide to help them?

    That is just wrong on so many levels!

  218. 4evaRaider Says:

    thats got a nice sound 2 it Brien and I’m glad you are back hitting home runs =)

  219. Brien the General Says:

    Well its been fun guys. But bout to get these brews in my system and watch some preseason football. Take care and JUST WIN

  220. jhill Says:

    It’s pretty simple to me …

    Sick? Hurt in anyway? You should be able to get treatment in 2010. And if it costs me an extra $500 bucks a year, so F’in what?!?!?

  221. Brien the General Says:

    # jhill Says:
    August 17th, 2009 at 4:42 pm

    Is there a humanitarian side to this argument?

    You mean to tell me that if a person walked into a hospital and needed treatment, you would have to “define” that person before you decide to help them?

    That is just wrong on so many levels!
    ******************************

    Yeah but the entire system in this country is wrong so oh well

  222. vegas raider Says:

    I’m not “Rich”, but last year me and the wife didn’t get “stimululated”, lol.

    I’ll make you a deal, you can repeal the entire tax-code for Bush’s tax-cuts for the “rich”. It will raise all of our taxes, than it will be fair I guess. Or maybe a national sales tax that EVERYONE has to pay. Sorry but Billy Joe in nortern Texas who burned himself cooking meth shouldn’t have his healthcare paid for by someone who is successful. That isn’t the America I know.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economic_Growth_and_Tax_Relief_Reconciliation_Act_of_2001

  223. Mistabrown Says:

    Tw is clueless as can be. Taxing the rich not only wont pay for HC it will cost jobs and hurt the economy. The rich have been sucked dry by people like you TW that believe you can create some POS govt program and soak the rich to pay 4 it!

    Funny how Cal & NY. Two states with the highest taxes are bankrupt! Wakeup man…the well is dry bro! Nothing left, no more blood in the turnip u dig ?

  224. Brien the General Says:

    # 4evaRaider Says:
    August 17th, 2009 at 4:42 pm

    thats got a nice sound 2 it Brien and I’m glad you are back hitting home runs =)
    ****************

    See how he was giving up with the “You Win” shhhit? That is a defeated person. Notice he does that with no one else. I been killing that guy for years

  225. jhill Says:

    I thought you weren’t like “them” though. So that’s no excuse.

  226. Mistabrown Says:

    I have no problem sending some illegal back to their home to get health care. Wherever that home may be.

    Sure nuff!

    # jhill Says:
    August 17th, 2009 at 4:42 pm

    Is there a humanitarian side to this argument?

    You mean to tell me that if a person walked into a hospital and needed treatment, you would have to “define” that person before you decide to help them?

    That is just wrong on so many levels!

  227. GalacticGus Says:

    response to post 42. the health care problem has nothing to do with illegals.. quit trying to find a scapegoat hater!! people should school themselves and turn to alternative medicine and therapies to begin with anyway.

  228. RogRaiderFan Says:

    stfu mcnabb never asked to be released you are making things up i promise you! im a real football fan you can’t tell me bull sh t like i dont know my facts either your lieing or you dont know what you are talking about

  229. KoolKell Says:

    Vegas

    “Sorry but Billy Joe in nortern Texas who burned himself cooking meth shouldn’t have his healthcare paid for by someone who is successful. That isn’t the America I know.”
    ——————–
    That’s the kind of bullshyt like the so-called Death Panels that does nothing but play into stupidity.

  230. jhill Says:

    If someone is hurt, or needs medical care, they should get it. PERIOD!

    To suggest that someone should be left for dead, so to speak, for any reason is ridiculous.

  231. 4evaRaider Says:

    yep fins vs. Jags

    panthers vs. giants

    Have a nice evening NATION!!!

  232. Mistabrown Says:

    LMAO
    So generous you are! Too bad 500.00 isnt nearly enough. Im glad you dont mind spending your hard earned money on some POS who doesn’t pay into the system, never has never will!

    Jhill the majority of the Country doesn’t agree with you thats why 0bam@ has gone down in flames!

    # jhill Says:
    August 17th, 2009 at 4:44 pm

    It’s pretty simple to me …

    Sick? Hurt in anyway? You should be able to get treatment in 2010. And if it costs me an extra $500 bucks a year, so F’in what?!?!?

  233. RaiderDogg Says:

    4eva

    you are the man, keep doing it

  234. 909RaiderLifer Says:

    Sounds like the players have Cable’s back, thats the good.

    The bad. If there is any truth to this story then Goodell probably gets involved, which means Cable gets suspended at least one game.

    The ugly. This Hanson dude decides to file charges after all, and the cops are now involved. Best case, Cable pleads to misdemeanor assault, gets probation, then suspended by Goodell for eight games.

    Plus the media smells blood, there will be a sh*t storm for at least the rest of the week.

  235. jhill Says:

    The whole illegal argument is ridiculous. As much as the US exploits countries like Mexico, a few bandaids and baby checkups are no big deal.

    You should really take a look at what you are arguing. Is helping someone out really that big of a deal to you? What is it REALLY costing YOU! YOU in particular that is such a rock in your shoe?

  236. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    MB, I don’t support a government takeover of health care, either. Neither does Obama. The only person who does is the image of the militant, black Obama that people like you have in your head, right there with Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny. All Obama wants is a government option.

  237. Mistabrown Says:

    Illegals getting free health care without paying into the system have nothing to do with the high cost of health care & the need for reform ?

    Ok GalacticGus!

    Gus you are a genius! Can you run for congress ?

    lmao

  238. RogRaiderFan Says:

    please find the article when mcnabb ask philly to release him for drafting kolb i would like to see this
    prove me wrong or prove my point about people twisting the facts to get gullible fools with them on their cause aka fox news

  239. Silver-n-Smac Says:

    RealMaddenRaider & Brian the General:

    Fellas. . . . .hell of a debate you two have going!

    Well, I believe 2 things can be equally true:

    RealMadden: I agree with you that this team, at this juncture in time, didn’t need something like this. Things have been so optimistic this offseason that this is a blemish the media will frenzy off of. That we don’t need. But, having said that, I don’t think it will be as big a deal as you’re making it out to be. I think Cable will prove to be a great coach for this team. And I really believe the players like him and will play hard for him.

    Brian: I also agree with you that Cable is a “blue collar” tough-guy kind of guy, and frankly, I like that. Kiffin was a weasel. Cable is what-you-see-is-what-you-get.

    I think that we’ve been a disgrace of a team for the past 6 years. The numbers don’t lie.

    But, I also truly believe we’re onto something finally. There is a great core of young talent on this team and that’s gonna translate to good things in the coming years.

    Let’s start with 8-8 this year, 10-6 (wildcard) next year, and 13-3 (Championship game) the year after that.

    I think those are reasonable, realistic goals for this team.

    I’ll be there for the Saints & every home game as usual.

    Go Raiders baby!

  240. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    909RaiderLifer Says:
    August 17th, 2009 at 4:53 pm

    Sounds like the players have Cable’s back, thats the good.

    …….

    Opposed to them what, having Hanson’s back? What does the players’ having Cable’s back demonstrate? It’s still chaos, something the team doesn’t need. Our problem over the past 6 years has not been the lack of a coach willing to get into fist fights with his staff. Get real.

  241. vegas raider Says:

    I guess it is just a difference in how we are raised. I come from an Italian-immigrant military family. Our answer to everyone’s problem is quit being a pussy. You don’t have a job or money for healthcare, better learn how to stich yourself up on your own. Life isn’t fair, spare me the compassion and empathy.

    My family waited at Ellis island for days, got our last name chopped in half, and than enlisted in the military and ultimately fought against the country they came from. I want that type of dedication from people that want to come to our country. I just don’t see it these days.

  242. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    SNB, me and Brien do not have a “heck of a debate” going. He won. My advice, don’t ever argue with that guy. He will win. Believe me. Even if he has no clue as to what he’s talking about, he will win the argument.

  243. Florida Pete Says:

    Mistabrown Says:
    August 17th, 2009 at 4:18 pm
    Yeah Pete all the under achievers should sponge off the wealthy folks!

    Good idea Pete! Pete for President!

    Socialism we can believe in right Pete !

    ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

    if the Republicans had held off with their f’d up tax cuts when Bush took office… we would probably have about 1/3 the debt we have now… 3 to 4 trillion instead of the 10 trillion when Bush left office…

    the value of the dollar when Bush took office was about 75 cents to the 1 Euro… by the time he left it was about 1.62 to buy that 1 Euro…

    tax cuts for the wealthy… it’s almost self defeating… the better the average american does the more disposable income he has… and the more he spends…

    the vast majority of that disposable income goes through the pockets of major corporations… profits… it’s what makes them rich…

    but when these wealthy f’ers insist on fiscal policy that rewards only themselves to the detriment of everyone else then there inevitably will come a time for them to pay…

    what good is a tax cut… if the end result is a devalued dollar???

    the truly wealthy already have an enormous array of tax shelters available to them… also most of them make their money from our tax dollars… government contracts… all the big corps have them… and they pay very well indeed… ask Haliburton…

    and it really isn’t about class warfare… i know all the arguements about flat tax, sales tax, etc… because i used to make them… it is in the best interests of the wealthy to pay more than their “fair” share… they need to pay that higher dividend in order to subsidize an economy that moves forward…

    wealth by definition is money removed from circulation… it needs to get back into circulation…

    when the wealthly accumulate too much wealth, an economy will falter, slow down…

    i want to take a break… more later… maybe…

  244. jhill Says:

    Keep up Mista … I’m not part of Obama’s party!

    Illegals … some POS who doesn’t pay …

    Wow!

    It’s Reps like you that make validate what Pete was saying earlier. You make a lot of us look bad.

    It’s a shame that a lot of America doesn’t see the value of simply helping someone out. People don’t go to the hospital for the fun of it.

  245. Mistabrown Says:

    MR,
    Ive seen the video several times of 0bam@ in 2007 saying he wants to do exactly that.

    Now he is on the campaign trail saying he doesn’t want GOVT to takeover HC because hes trying to sell it. He knows he cant come out & say it or he will get torched. Hes not that dumb but he’s very close.

  246. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Vegas Raider, that’s impressive. But it seems that most Americans support a government option in health care, which means your family’s views are dated and out of touch with America. Maybe you guys should consider returning to Italy, if you view Americans as nothing more than pussies?

  247. RaiderDogg Says:

    Now maybe Hanson will keep his mouth shut and stop talking to Mike Lombardi!

  248. RaiderTW Says:

    Reality just doesn’t hit repubs. You can keep you insurance you have. He’s said the same for 2yrs now, fox doesn’t show that do they? Last I heard it will cost $40 bil a drop in the bucket when you think the 2 w@rs could pay for that 3.5 times over. where was your “fiscal” rants when Bush was spending & k!lling like a drunken sailor? It’s no longer your turn.

  249. RogRaiderFan Says:

    better yet find me one single report where mcnabb talked bad about kolb i bet you can’t find it

  250. jhill Says:

    I can respect that Vegas. You have a totally different “tone”.

  251. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    SNB, I don’t believe Kiffin is a weasel. Why are you speaking for me? I happen to believe Al Davis is a weasel.

  252. DKnight007 Says:

    RaiderTW Says:
    August 17th, 2009 at 4:59 pm
    Reality just doesn’t hit repubs. You can keep you insurance you have. He’s said the same for 2yrs now, fox doesn’t show that do they? Last I heard it will cost $40 bil a drop in the bucket when you think the 2 w@rs could pay for that 3.5 times over. where was your “fiscal” rants when Bush was spending & k!lling like a drunken sailor? It’s no longer your turn.

    ^^^^^^The GOP and Republicans are some seriously sick twisted f**ks aren’t they??

  253. RaiderTW Says:

    Haahaha #247 RaiderDogg.lol

  254. AZ Raider Says:

    doesnt sound like it was a fist fight. Sounds like Cable just cracked him one, end of story and end of whatever argument they were having LOL.

  255. 909RaiderLifer Says:

    RMR……

    Just my two cents….All knowing one.

  256. AZ Raider Says:

    Nice post Vegas…

  257. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    The “who cares” attitude amongst Raider fans about this embarrassing incident reminds me of when Romo, an out of control steroid freak, nearly killed a team mate by punching him when he had his helmet off, which is not a scrimmage brawl, it’s an assault, period. “hey, we’re the Raiders. This is just how we do it. We’re going to kick ass”. 4-12.

  258. RaiderNationPA Says:

    1) If this is true about Cable, it means the Raiders are finally acting like a family. disfunction is when people talk about each other behind their backs and through the media. Punching each other in the face is what brothers do. The Raiders are finally becoming a family!

    2) You Obamacare supporters obviously suffer from a nievety that cannot be cured. Socialism has never and will never work in any way shape or form. And it doesn’t matter if you have the option to stay with your current plan. When 80% of the country is on a gov. health care plan that the other 20% have to pay for, nobody’s going to stay with their current plan. When I hear that some people are without insurance, I say good! it shows that the system works. They obviously feel that it’s not important enough to spend the money on.

  259. KoolKell Says:

    Republicans, Neo’s, that certain demographic’s whole life view is based on hating someone. They can’t make an argument, so now they want to hate on Mexicans. Everything to them is about separating themselves for others.

  260. dt_raiders Says:

    just when i thought we had a normal quiet professional off-season & training camp and now this circus. The other AFC West fans are probably having a hoot.

  261. RogRaiderFan Says:

    when people get their facts from a source that gives you half the truth or a twisted truth thats all they believe in ,and are to stupid or gullible to find the real truth. nothing new, people all over the world in history have been using the same tricks

  262. MaddenRaiderisadouchebag Says:

    What did MR say? “John Madden never comes to Alameda or training camp.”

    Yet what’s the tweet today…

    >>John Madden in the house. is he here to yell “Boom!” to Cable?
    Mon, 17 Aug 2009 23:05:14 +0000>>

    Another MR lie easily debunked.

  263. RaiderTW Says:

    Like I heard KK, not all repubs are racist but most rasicists are repub.
    It’s a felony to fracture a guys’ jaw in Calif? What if it was in Texas?

  264. AZ Raider Says:

    The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    August 17th, 2009 at 5:07 pm
    The “who cares” attitude amongst Raider fans about this embarrassing incident reminds me of when Romo, an out of control steroid freak, nearly killed a team mate by punching him when he had his helmet off, which is not a scrimmage brawl, it’s an assault, period. “hey, we’re the Raiders. This is just how we do it. We’re going to kick ass”. 4-12.
    ……………………………………………….

    Yeah, I knew we would have been 12-4 if only Romanowski had kept his hands to himself…

  265. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    RaiderNationPA, you are insane. Name one NFL team that has ever gone on to win a Super Bowl having this kind of chaos, and remember, we’re talking coaches fighting each other. Name one. Considering how crazy you are when talking about the Raiders, I don’t even want to hear your view on politics, so I stopped reading.

  266. Silver-n-Smac Says:

    # The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    August 17th, 2009 at 5:01 pm

    SNB, I don’t believe Kiffin is a weasel. Why are you speaking for me? I happen to believe Al Davis is a weasel.
    ********************************************

    O.K., now you’re getting on my nerves. I make a comment, primarily backing up your point and you turn smart-ass on me?

    If you don’t think Kiffin was a weasel, then nothing you’ve said to date has any substance. Al Davis has his faults, as we all do. But, let’s get one thing straight. The man still, to this day, possesses more football knowledge in a quarter of his brain than you do in all of yours.

    You can sit here and cry about why we’ve been a failure for the past 6 years all you want. When the Boston Celtics went through like 10 years of absolutely pathetic basketball, it wasn’t the end of the world. Good franchises always turn it around.

    The Raiders were in a Superbowl 6 years ago. And yes, they took John Gruden’s team there.

    But, if you want to strip all the credit for that success away from Al Davis and give it all to Gruden, then we should Strip all credit from any owner who hired a good coach.

    Fact is, Al hired Gruden when no other team had the foresight to hire him.

    What will you say if we go 10-6 and make the playoffs this year?

    Will you say it was out of luck?

    Was drafting Thomas Howard, Kirk Morrison, Nnaamdi, D-mac, Michael Bush, Chaz Chilenz, Robert Gallery, Mario Henderson, Zack Miller (I can go on and on). . .

    Was all that luck?

    You people that come on here and do nothing but constantly whine really should root for the Niners.

    It’s fine to have complaints here and there, but, all some of you seem to do is Biotch, Biotch, Biotch.

    If you have so many problems with this team, why do you waste your time pretending to be “fans”?

  267. AZ Raider Says:

    dt_raiders Says:
    August 17th, 2009 at 5:09 pm
    just when i thought we had a normal quiet professional off-season & training camp and now this circus. The other AFC West fans are probably having a hoot.
    ………………………………………………

    What ever they have to do to keep thier minds off Kyle Orton, Matt Cassel, and LT’s dwindling production…

  268. RaiderTW Says:

    Repubs have a christian cult s3x org that thinks they are “the choasen” located on C street? Talking about death panels when Chaney actually had d3ath squads??? Right here in America??? Wiretapping? They got nothing….but their own shame.

  269. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Fair point, AZ Raider. But chaos like that never helps. Still waiting on you guys to name a Super Bowl team in NFL history to start a season off with two coaches in a fist fight.

  270. RaiderNationPA Says:

    The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    August 17th, 2009 at 5:13 pm
    RaiderNationPA, you are insane. Name one NFL team that has ever gone on to win a Super Bowl having this kind of chaos, and remember, we’re talking coaches fighting each other. Name one. Considering how crazy you are when talking about the Raiders, I don’t even want to hear your view on politics, so I stopped reading.

    —————————————————

    Obviously you’re unfamiliar with sarcasm.

  271. RaiderTW Says:

    If you have so many problems with this team, why do you waste your time pretending to be “fans”?
    ——————————
    # The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    I hate the Raiders and I’m negative. You won, dude! It’s over. You won. I just don’t think the Raiders have a chance of competing in this league until Al Davis, who’s proven himself to be incapable of running a team in the modern day game, retires from football operation. But you’re right. I hate the Raiders, and I’m negative. You won the argument, dude, you won! Yay!

  272. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Silver n Smac, you made some bizarre comment putting words into my mouth giving Davis and Cable props and calling Kiffin a weasel, is what you did. You’re a weasel. And I don’t care if I get on your nerves. Good.

  273. omniscience Says:

    this punch happened 8-5 it is now 8-17 the team seems to be fine with it. but the Media wants to blow it up to create a distraction let us as true Raider fans not give in to the Man…

  274. AZ Raider Says:

    Silver-n-Smac Says:
    August 17th, 2009 at 5:14 pm

    ….a whole bunch of good stuff!

    ……………………………………………..

    Smac,

    Nice post!

    9-7!

    PLAYOFFBOUND!

    53 MEN, COUTLESS FANS, ONE RIGHT CROSS AND ONE PURPOSE!

    DRINK UP NATION!

    ;)

  275. RaiderNationPA Says:

    I feel bad for you conservatives that have to live on the west coast. How do you deal with these crazy libs everyday?

  276. MaddenRaiderisadouchebag Says:

    #266, right on the money, don’t wait for an educated debate, MR will just make up some more lunacy and present it as fact with no one to vouch for it.

  277. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    RaiderTW, why do you spend so much time here telling us how great everything is, when it’s obviously not? I’m not wasting any more of my life in here than you are. You think everything is fine, I KNOW that it isn’t. That’s the difference between me and you.

  278. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Wow. The intellect in here. Someone named themselves “maddenraiderisadouchebag”. I should name myself “AlDavisisTheWorstOwnerInSports”.

  279. MaddenRaiderisadouchebag Says:

    I feel bad for you dipsh!t slaves to the democrat and republican parties…One gives money to the banks, the other gives to the drug cartels and oil barons. Oh wait, they both do that, and both are pu$$y chickenhawks.

  280. AZ Raider Says:

    The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    August 17th, 2009 at 5:15 pm
    Fair point, AZ Raider. But chaos like that never helps. Still waiting on you guys to name a Super Bowl team in NFL history to start a season off with two coaches in a fist fight.
    ………………………………………………

    MR I’m sure there are teams out there that have NEVER had a fist fight in Camp who also have NEVER won a single Super Bowl… I don’t think they go hand and hand.

  281. Kirk Says:

    Cable should have punched Al Davis for not drafting any linemen.

  282. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Omniscience, you guys are blowing it up just as much as the media! The media’s just reporting that it happened. You guys are saying it’s the franchises turning point because, what is it? Oh yeh, we finally have a head coach who punches his staff! Yeh. Who’s blowing things up? Aren’t you guys glad it was reported? Now everyone knows the Raiders mean business! Cable punched an assistant! Why would the story embarrass you? Is it because you know it’s an indication that things are out of control in Oakland, as usual? Is it because you know that incidents like this are an OMEN in the NFL?

  283. omniscience Says:

    I agree with silver n smac after the super bowl our whole feam was depleated the next 2 years Rice,Brown,Gannon,Gardner,Wheatley,Wiz,Kennedy and I can go on. Al has built another young team now to carry on so eaither get on the Bus or get off….

  284. MaddenRaiderisadouchebag Says:

    The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    August 17th, 2009 at 5:21 pm
    Wow. The intellect in here. Someone named themselves “maddenraiderisadouchebag”. I should name myself “AlDavisisTheWorstOwnerInSports”.

    ————–

    Yep that’s typical, attack the messenger and not the message…Also, how can Al be the worst owner in sports when he’s won 3 championships in his respective sport? I mean where does that put ownership of the Clippers, Cardinals, Lions, Buccaneers, Padres, Sacramento Queens, etc. etc.

  285. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Oakglenn, I mean, MaddenRaiderIsADouchebag, great points about political parties.

  286. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Al hasn’t won a championship in nearly 30 years, Oakglenn, and everyone knows Ron Wolf built those teams that won it. That come back is flat anymore.

  287. RaiderTW Says:

    The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    I hate the Raiders and I’m negative.
    ———
    Troll:
    In Internet slang, a troll is someone who posts controversial, inflammatory, irrelevant or off-topic messages in an online community, such as an online discussion forum, chat room or blog, with the primary intent of provoking other users into an emotional or disciplinary response[1] or of otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion.[2]

  288. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Omniscience, what you’re saying is that the reason Davis has failed for 6 years is because it took him that long to rebuild from the Gruden era? You might have just made the best case ever as to why Al’s no longer qualified to run a team in this league. Any GM that takes 6 years.. You make Al Davis sound like a retard.

  289. AZ Raider Says:

    The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    August 17th, 2009 at 5:23 pm
    Omniscience, you guys are blowing it up just as much as the media! The media’s just reporting that it happened. You guys are saying it’s the franchises turning point because, what is it? Oh yeh, we finally have a head coach who punches his staff! Yeh. Who’s blowing things up? Aren’t you guys glad it was reported? Now everyone knows the Raiders mean business! Cable punched an assistant! Why would the story embarrass you? Is it because you know it’s an indication that things are out of control in Oakland, as usual? Is it because you know that incidents like this are an OMEN in the NFL?
    ………………………………………………

    We are gabbing about it because it’s the only thing Raiders right now to gab about. I’d rather be talking about field performance. I don’t care that Cable hit a damn asst and I don’t care if and Asst hits Cable. As long as the players are improving and are buying in to the Cable system we should win more that 5 games for once. Punch one for every win for all I care. Just win some games…

  290. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    RaiderTW, I would explain to you that I was being sarcastic by agreeing with Brien’s accusations that I hate the Raiders or whatever, but what’s the point. You’re just a desperate moron trying to win an argument right now. Let me know when you want to talk football, idiot. I’ll school you on just why the Raiders will suck as long as Al Davis is here, and we’ll compare facts. But until you’re ready for that debate, just continue taking personal swipes at me from afar, dweeb.

  291. RogRaiderFan Says:

    85bears won the superbowl while ditka and buddy ryan fussed and argued all the time even got to the point when they didnt talk to each other

  292. Silver-n-Smac Says:

    # The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    August 17th, 2009 at 5:18 pm

    Silver n Smac, you made some bizarre comment putting words into my mouth giving Davis and Cable props and calling Kiffin a weasel, is what you did. You’re a weasel. And I don’t care if I get on your nerves. Good.
    *****************************************************

    Hey. . . .

    Why don’t you answer my question to you. I love how you only respond to what is most convenient to your points of view.

    If Al is such a poor owner, then answer my question.

    Were the Celtics such a pathetic organization and ownership before while they had all those losing seasons, prior to winning the Championship a couple of years ago?

  293. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    AZRaider,

    Omni is bitching about the press blowing this up. Nobody is blowing it up as much as you guys are. All the press did was merely report that it happened. They’ve given no backdrop or spin, at least not yet. Just reported the incident. It’s you guys making this the big story of the day, and insisting that our head coach punching an assistant coach is a sign that we’re as good as the Steelers. Never mind our actual play on the field. Our head coach punched an assistant! Teams will now fear us!

  294. RaiderNationPA Says:

    Haha dweeb… haven’t heard that one in a while

  295. RaiderTW Says:

    just continue taking personal swipes at me from afar, dweeb.
    —————-
    Gladly, Troll.

  296. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Silvernsmac, Al Davis was a good owner until about the ‘mid ’80s. I don’t know what’s happened to him, but he’s been mostly a failure since. I don’t need to espouse further on that to make my case. The record speaks for itself. Look up Al’s record since 1986. He’s awful. He sucks. And his supporters are delusional fools. Us fans who want to see the team win wish Al Davis would drop off the face of the earth.

  297. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    RaiderTW, you’re the only one acting like a troll right now. I’m talking about the team, and most of my comments are directly related to Jerry’s current blog entry. You’re not a moderator here. You have no high ground to deem anyone here a troll. Stupid wannabe.

  298. RogRaiderFan Says:

    have you found those articles about mcnabb yet mistabrown? i doubt it its easy to catch a hate slanger in a lie

  299. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    RaiderPa, you probably haven’t heard anyone call you a dweeb in a while, at least not to your face.

  300. MaddenRaiderisadouchebag Says:

    >>>Al hasn’t won a championship in nearly 30 years, Oakglenn, and everyone knows Ron Wolf built those teams that won it.>>

    Uhhh, ok and what’s that say about organizations that have NEVER won anything…Oh and I forgot Ron Wolf was able to take personell control and final decisions away from the owner of the team, yet even in your asinine claim you say “Al won a championship”, no hyprocisy there I suppose. Furthermore, it’s amazing Wolf did this for the first superbowl since he wasn’t even here.

  301. AZ Raider Says:

    The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    August 17th, 2009 at 5:32 pm
    AZRaider,

    Omni is bitching about the press blowing this up. Nobody is blowing it up as much as you guys are. All the press did was merely report that it happened. They’ve given no backdrop or spin, at least not yet. Just reported the incident. It’s you guys making this the big story of the day, and insisting that our head coach punching an assistant coach is a sign that we’re as good as the Steelers. Never mind our actual play on the field. Our head coach punched an assistant! Teams will now fear us!
    ……………………………………………….

    Well hey now, don’t say “you guys” when the header says AZ Raider. Like I said before in response to your last post… All I care about are wins. Fyck how we get them, or who the owner is, or the coach, or who the coach is punching, or how many years it’s been since we won a superbowl, or what we shoulda done that year or what we coulda done in the draft, or how big Al Davis’ birthday party was, or why one fans thinks Al Davis is the man and another thinks he is a douche.

    Just fycking win baby!

  302. Silver-n-Smac Says:

    # The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    August 17th, 2009 at 5:33 pm

    Silvernsmac, Al Davis was a good owner until about the ‘mid ’80s. I don’t know what’s happened to him, but he’s been mostly a failure since. I don’t need to espouse further on that to make my case. The record speaks for itself. Look up Al’s record since 1986. He’s awful. He sucks. And his supporters are delusional fools. Us fans who want to see the team win wish Al Davis would drop off the face of the earth.

    ***************************************************

    Dude, how what have the SF Whiners done since 1994? Nothing. That’s right. 15 years of nothing.

    Are they the worst organization in sports? No.

    Al Davis has done more since 1986 than 65% of the other teams in the NFL. You make it sound like SO many different teams have won Superbowls in that time span.

    Go look at the numbers dude. Superbowls are actually hard to win. Imagine that! The Chargers have been around forever and have NEVER won one.

    Most teams in the league have NOT won Superbowls.

    Wake up man.

    There’s one word for fools like you.

    Wishy-Washy.

    When the going’s good, you’re “fans”, when the going’s bad, you biotch like little old ladies 24 hours a day.

    You still can’t seem to answer this fundamental question:

    Why do you “root” for the Raiders if you hate their owner and everything they stand for????

  303. omniscience Says:

    Az Have you watched N.F.L Network today it was reported

  304. AZ Raider Says:

    MaddenRaiderisadouchebag Says:
    August 17th, 2009 at 5:37 pm
    >>>Al hasn’t won a championship in nearly 30 years, Oakglenn, and everyone knows Ron Wolf built those teams that won it.>>

    Uhhh, ok and what’s that say about organizations that have NEVER won anything…Oh and I forgot Ron Wolf was able to take personell control and final decisions away from the owner of the team, yet even in your asinine claim you say “Al won a championship”, no hyprocisy there I suppose. Furthermore, it’s amazing Wolf did this for the first superbowl since he wasn’t even here.
    ……………………………………………….

    Didn’t Al Davis hire Ron Wolf?

  305. AZ Raider Says:

    omniscience Says:
    August 17th, 2009 at 5:39 pm
    Az Have you watched N.F.L Network today it was reported
    ………………………………………………

    Not yet, I catch up on all the NFLN when I get home from work.

  306. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Anyhow, back to today’s incident. Forgive me for allowing trolls like RaiderTW and silvernsmac distract me. Tom Cable punching an assistant coach is a sign that things are still chaotic in Oakland. Today’s NFL is more businesslike than ever. Winning teams, especially Super Bowl teams, work in sync, and there is never any bickering amongst the coaches in front of players. A fist fight amongst coaches is unthinkable. A coach that gets into fist fights is not what the Raiders have been lacking in recent years. A coach that can run an organized football team is, and there’s nothing organized about coaches fighting in front of the players. Believe me, when this team is 2-6 at the midway point (possibly worse), I’ll be reminding you guys of this incident, and making arguments considering this event and the chaos amongst the coaching staff as yet another reason for the team failing. See you guys later tonight, or maybe tomorrow.

  307. AZ Raider Says:

    The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    August 17th, 2009 at 5:41 pm
    Anyhow, back to today’s incident. Forgive me for allowing trolls like RaiderTW and silvernsmac distract me. Tom Cable punching an assistant coach is a sign that things are still chaotic in Oakland. Today’s NFL is more businesslike than ever. Winning teams, especially Super Bowl teams, work in sync, and there is never any bickering amongst the coaches in front of players. A fist fight amongst coaches is unthinkable. A coach that gets into fist fights is not what the Raiders have been lacking in recent years. A coach that can run an organized football team is, and there’s nothing organized about coaches fighting in front of the players. Believe me, when this team is 2-6 at the midway point (possibly worse), I’ll be reminding you guys of this incident, and making arguments considering this event and the chaos amongst the coaching staff as yet another reason for the team failing. See you guys later tonight, or maybe tomorrow.
    ……………………………………………….

    Weren’t you just saying it was “US” who keep talking and making a fuss out of it?

    WTF?

    Have a good one MR.

    9-7!

    PLAYOFFBOUND!

    53 MEN, COUTLESS FANS, ONE PURPOSE, ….AND ONE RIGHT CROSS!

    DRINK UP NATION!

    ;)

  308. RaiderNationPA Says:

    You’re loving all this attention aren’t you MaddenRaider… I mean let’s cut to the chase, that’s really why you post. What bothers me is that you try to act like you’re some superior intellect. You are posting comments on an internet blog… you are just as pathedic as the rest of us. We just don’t take it so seriously. I’d tell you to lighten up, but then you won’t get the attention that you need.

  309. omniscience Says:

    Everyone knows Al Runs the show Just like ones before if you talk to much you get smacked. Kiffin started talking smack and got axed Gruden gave good years but started talking smack to yea he took Dungys team to S.B but did nothing on his own. Cable just was stepping up Hansen probally was running his mouth in front of the team and cable stepped up and cracked him in the jaw.And yea 6 years to rebuild is not far fetched we use to reload not rebulild but that approach has not worked lately not to bring up your team the whinners but they are still trying to rebuild after Joe,craig,Young Rice ect. and they dont look all that.

  310. Roch R Says:

    Don’t know the details, but at least it’s been dealt with, most likely to go away. Fact is if X-rays are required on your jaw, one usually learns to shut up and tow the line.

    With out the facts, I say right on to Cable taking charge of his team, all aspects.

  311. 504 Raider Says:

    Now we know why Gilbride didn’t get the job. Al doesn’t want coaches who get hit in the face……I wouldn’t put too much stock into this incident. It’s not like he punched Tollner, Hackett, or Marshall. Hanson who? Didn’t know of this dude until today.

  312. RaiderTW Says:

    This happened 2 weeks ago “allegedly” in front of only coaches. Somebody going to testify? Did Hanson just go to the Dr now? Call it an “accident” get away with it like Cheney.

  313. vegas raider Says:

    Peter King said today in his MMQB that the Chargers should win the division “by 4 games”.

    I don’t mind King, gets good interviews, but know that his predictions are awful, and he admits as much at times.

    Also, I thought he was going to our training camp? Today he reported on his trips to SD, SF, Denver, all of the West Coast teams but us of course. What’s up with that?

  314. Roch R Says:

    Gotta say I’m hoping for the motto this year….

    run DMC run. Loved the 45 yrd scamper in the game!

  315. Kush Says:

    John Madden in the house. is he here to yell “Boom!” to Cable?about 2 hours ago from mobile web bydavidwhite
    _________________________________________________________

    Wait everybody. John Madden hates Al Davis and wants nothing to do with the Raider “ORGANIZATION” anymore. At least according to the paranoid schizo known as Madden Raider.

  316. Roch R Says:

    Can anyone tell me why Ricky Brown is getting any playing time ahead of Morrison?? I just don’t see it.

  317. 504 Raider Says:

    This incident could be tied to Cable possibly splitting with his wife (if they are not split already). Cable’s wife is also referred to as “Horsehead.” No Lie. Hanson might have mentioned “Horsehead” in a heated argument and BAM! Cable: “Now the both of you’s have matching jaws.”

  318. Kush Says:

    # Roch R Says:
    August 17th, 2009 at 5:53 pm

    Can anyone tell me why Ricky Brown is getting any playing time ahead of Morrison?? I just don’t see it.
    _________________________________________________________

    Cause Morrisson sucks at stopping the run, filling in gaps and basically being the quarterback for the defense.

    I think that’s enough to be replaced.

  319. KoolKell Says:

    With the players chanting “Cable Bumaye” I guess they didn’t mind/ are not split.

  320. RaiderNationPA Says:

    While I agree with Kush’s assessment of Morrison, I think Roch R is also right. Ricky Brown is no better than Morrison. Maybe he talks more, but I have yet to see him do anything impressive. At least Morrison is good in pass coverage.

  321. Richochet Says:

    Kush Says:
    August 17th, 2009 at 12:19 am
    Richochet Says:
    August 16th, 2009 at 11:49 pm

    Foothill is closer to 580 than 880 and the coliseum.
    _________________________________________________________

    Hahahahahahahahahah. ROTFFLMAO.

    Rackoshit is still menstruating out of his mouth.

    You are obviously a fu*k boy who probabbly never even comes to Oakland without a police escort. Foothill is actually 3 blocks from E14 St. aka International, which is where the 880 exit on High St is you idiot.

    580 is off of Macarthur a long ways from Foothill. LOLOLOL. You idiot.

    And naw man, I live by myself. I’m not afraid of Oakland. I’m from here.

    Oakland’s all good. The Hells Angels are right down the street. It’s the Birthplace of The Raiders. That makes Oakland the greatest place on earth.

    Now go finish sucking Crabtree.
    ============================
    Thanks for proving you’re full of crap, Kush the Puss.

    Pay attention, moron.

    Yeah, Foothill is close to High st exit..EXCEPT THE COLISEUM ISN’T THE HIGH STREET EXIT, DUMBASS, it’s the Hegenberger exit.

    Are you so damn stupid you don’t know that? You also don’t know that as Foothill goes south, it swerves away from 880, and parallel’s 580? Then actually RUNS INTO 580??
    Dumbass.

    Again, fool. Hegenberger exit to the Coliseum, NOT HIGH ST. You go up Hegenberger 20 BLOCKS BEFORE IT HITS FOOTHILL, MORON. From there it’s 4 blocks east to 580. Or go down foothill, and again, you run into 580.

    You’re a lying little wannabee, lol..aren’t you?

    You don’t even know what exit to take to get to the coliseum?

    And look at you, thinking it’s so scary in that area, lol.
    It’s a slum, fool. Bums, rejects, alkies, poppers, stoners, and hookers..streets smell like piss, houses look condemned, and stores have bars on the windows..it’s a slum, little man.
    I’m on Coliseum way every week, little man.
    You? lol..you don’t where the coliseum is..no doubt you have no idea where Coliseum way is either, fool.

  322. vegas raider Says:

    Didn’t Cable already give his statement? Jerry must be cooking us up a good one!!

  323. Roch R Says:

    Morrison is not solely to blame for the bad run D. I think he’s caught a bad wrap, at least he can wrap up, Brown hugged the Dallas back in the last game. Looked sad.

  324. 504 Raider Says:

    Roch R Says:
    August 17th, 2009 at 5:53 pm
    Can anyone tell me why Ricky Brown is getting any playing time ahead of Morrison?? I just don’t see it.
    ————————————————————————————————————–
    Gotta think that Al’s got too much money tied into JaMarcus/DMac/Nnamdi/DHB. Morrison is gonna be looking for big money after the season and lets not forget that agent switch for Mario, who most certainly will want big money If JaMarcus has a big year and clean jersey.

  325. Richochet Says:

    1. Kush Says:
    August 17th, 2009 at 12:30 am
    Rackoshit-
    The neighborhood that the Oakland Coliseum is in is one of the most dangerous in the city. Far worse than where I live.
    66th mob is real and it didn’t start with the Raiders. lmao.
    It’s actually 65 and 69 Village projects, 71st and Hamilton, and Spencer St. That’s where the Coliseum is. Hood sh*t. If you don’t like the hood, never come to the Coliseum, you might make a wrong turn and end up in a scene like Training day. Freakin’ coward.
    Far worse than where you live? YOU STATED YOU LIVED ON FOOTHILL, RIGHT NEXT TO THE COLISEUM.
    Like I detailed, you stupidly think High st is where the Coliseum is..it’s not, dumbass
    Like I said, little boy, I’m in the area every week.
    Obviously just the idea of being in that area makes you soil yourself..yeah..LMFAO at “scene like Training Day”
    What a wuss, KushPuss.

  326. vegas raider Says:

    Mario is going to get PAID, he gets better everytime I watch him.

  327. Richochet Says:

    1. No More Infield or Trolls Says:
    August 17th, 2009 at 8:19 am
    Rachoschit – the longer crabgreed holds out the stupider you look and sound. The diva claim that dogged him coming out of college is obviously true. College production has nothing to do with the pros. Mike Williams ring a bell? How many heisman trophy winners are selling insurance? Get my point? I don’t think he will ever play for the niners. he should just move to Paris and sew pants…
    Quit abusing the right to appear clueless.
    Holdouts mean nothing, moron.
    Hell, didn’t that two ton side of beef you call your qb hold out UNTIL THE SECOND GAME OF THE YEAR?? Of course, obviously, it hurt him. Well, except in the pocket book, and since that payday guy has never past up a buffet line.
    Admit it..you blew it. You signed Bey to what? 23 million GUARANTEED?? And the guy can’t even catch a football? Lol..yeah..boy..that worked out, didn’t it?
    Only the Raiders make these dumb moves, year after year.

  328. Twocents Says:

    Cable “It’s an internal matter and that’s all I’m going to say.”
    Translation: “If I see that little weasel again I’ll rip his f’n head off.”

  329. GalacticGus Says:

    mista brown in response to 237…

    everybody pays taxes, whether you are legal or illegal. it comes out of your check. and in sales tax.. don’t you have to qualify for medicare?
    if it weren’t for the illegals, you wouldn’t be able to buy a burger for a buck still with the cheap labor that they provide and I don’t see people running in line to get those jobs.. until that happens, then you can complain about illegals

  330. The RaiderCast | AOL Fanhouse: Cable punched Hanson Says:

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  331. Kush Says:

    Rackoshit-

    This was yesterday’s argument. It took you 18 hours for your brain to catch up. Idiot.

    Actually dummy, The Oakland Coliseum is on the 66 Ave. Coliseum exit. Coliseum Wy. starts two blocks from High St.

    Your dumb ass said that Foothill Blvd is closer to 580 than 880. The closest 580 exit to Foothill is by going up Seminary. Foothill turns into MacArthur. Foothill doesn’t intersect 580 until damn near San Leandro.

    So when it comes to proximity to the Oakland Coliseum, Foothill is no where near closer to 580 than 880 fu*k boi.

    Now go ponder on that and get back to me in 18 hours when your brain catches up.

  332. Richochet Says:

    Kush Says:
    August 17th, 2009 at 5:51 pm
    John Madden in the house. is he here to yell “Boom!” to Cable?about 2 hours ago from mobile web bydavidwhite
    _________________________________________________________

    Wait everybody. John Madden hates Al Davis and wants nothing to do with the Raider “ORGANIZATION” anymore. At least according to the paranoid schizo known as Madden Raider.

    ——————————-
    No, dumbass, that’s according to pretty much everyone who knows both Al and Madden, including the players on the team at the time.

    Why is it that Madden RUFUSED to even talk to Davis for 3 straight months, while employed with the Raiders?
    Why is it that lots of players, including Phil Villipiano went public with how crappy it was on how Davis made Madden’s life miserable?

    Why, exactly, dumbass, do you think Madden got out of football?
    Was because of Al Davis.

    Now is when you toss out a childish juvenile comment, hoping it masks the fact you just got slapped down again, WITH NOTHING IN REPLY.

    That’s what idiots do.

    Silly little kiddy comments, hoping other “challenged” posters will giggle along.

    BTW..you ever notice that, with the exception of at the Hall of Fame, you’ve NEVER SEEN MADDEN ANYWHERE WITH AL DAVIS..not at any games..not at any functions..no where, EVER.
    Yeah, LMAO, they’re just “best of buddies”..aren’t they?

  333. Oakglenn Says:

    Looks like the same cast of characters posting the same lame sh** and calling each other out. And this is some how my fault again right?
    —————————–

    with regards to Cable-bumya, obviously if you are upset about this, you have never been around a pro or college football team in your life.

  334. vegas raider Says:

    GalacticGus,

    Read the below article from yesterday’s las vegas review-journal, and tell me what the solution is. It is an awful problem, but it can’t continue and is only getting worse.

    http://www.lvrj.com/news/53343302.html

  335. Kush Says:

    Rackoshit

    You jumped in a convo I was having with Raider Ron who is from Washington State. Compared with most people who post here, I live “right next to the Coliseum”.

    It’s called figurative language you ESL student. When I get on the 880 Freeway the Coliseum is the NEXT EXIT FROM MY HOUSE. It’s probably longer for you on your tricycle with your retard helmet.

    So I’m well aware that I don’t live literally right next to the Coliseum, but I am in the neighborhood compared to 95% of the people that post here.

    Next time stay outta grown folks business f*ck boi.

  336. Richochet Says:

    Kush Says:
    August 17th, 2009 at 6:16 pm
    Rackoshit-

    This was yesterday’s argument. It took you 18 hours for your brain to catch up. Idiot.

    Actually dummy, The Oakland Coliseum is on the 66 Ave. Coliseum exit. Coliseum Wy. starts two blocks from High St.

    Your dumb ass said that Foothill Blvd is closer to 580 than 880. The closest 580 exit to Foothill is by going up Seminary. Foothill turns into MacArthur. Foothill doesn’t intersect 580 until damn near San Leandro.

    So when it comes to proximity to the Oakland Coliseum, Foothill is no where near closer to 580 than 880 fu*k boi.

    Now go ponder on that and get back to me in 18 hours when your brain catches up.
    ==========================================
    You have shit for brains, don’t you?

    Whether you take Hegenberger going north, or 66th st going south, NEITHER ARE HIGH STREET, ARE THEY? In other words, your idiot claim that Foothill is right next to the coliseum makes you a moron.

    Oh, and dumbass? AT THE COLISEUM, FOOTHILL IS 20 BLOCKS FROM 880, 5 BLOCKS FROM 580..Again, obviously you don’t know the area.
    Ok, little boy..get off on Hegenberger, go up Hegenberger/73rd 20 blocks..THAT’S FOOTHILL, MORON. 5 more blocks is 580.
    Now shut up, little boy..you’re just embarrassing yourself.

    Oh..and yeah..still laughing my ass off at how scared you are to even go in the area.
    Next time bring some muscle..your little sister will do.

  337. Richochet Says:

    Kush Says:
    August 17th, 2009 at 6:21 pm
    Rackoshit

    You jumped in a convo I was having with Raider Ron who is from Washington State. Compared with most people who post here, I live “right next to the Coliseum”.

    It’s called figurative language you ESL student. When I get on the 880 Freeway the Coliseum is the NEXT EXIT FROM MY HOUSE. It’s probably longer for you on your tricycle with your retard helmet.

    So I’m well aware that I don’t live literally right next to the Coliseum, but I am in the neighborhood compared to 95% of the people that post here.

    Next time stay outta grown folks business f*ck boi.

    ———————————
    Hell dude, you don’t even know the proximity of 880/580..you’re lost.
    Don’t confuse others with you not remembering which way your parents go when they drive you.

    No shame in being lost.
    Shame is not realizing it.

  338. vegas raider Says:

    Of all things to argue about………..

  339. Kush Says:

    Actually fu*k boi Rackoshit-

    It’s 73rd and Mac. No one from Oakland recognizes 73rd and Foothill.

    Keep riding your tricycle with your helmet, retard.

    I’m done debating Oakland demographics with your dumb ass. I’m the one who lives here, you’re the one who called East Oakland a repressed, slum…but I’m the one who’s afraid to live here. okkaaayy. That makes a whole lotta a sense.

    You’re too stupid to continue to have this conversation with any longer.

  340. Roch R Says:

    So how can anyone argue that Schillens won’t be the break out player of the year! 7th Round draft pick!! I know he still has to prove it through the season, but you have to know that at the end of this year people will be talking about him.

    Makes you wonder about first round WR’s?? Is it worth it to draft a reciever in the first round? Not to slag on DHB, but look at all the first round busts at the position, then a gem like Schillens is looking to be comes around in the 7th!

    Now if Russell can figure out how to not wobble the long ball, and get the timing right this offense is going to be explosive.

  341. Kush Says:

    # vegas raider Says:
    August 17th, 2009 at 6:28 pm

    Of all things to argue about………..
    _________________________________________________________

    Even I have to agree with you on this one, lol

  342. Richochet Says:

    Oakglenn Says:
    August 17th, 2009 at 6:20 pm
    Looks like the same cast of characters posting the same lame sh** and calling each other out. And this is some how my fault again right?
    —————————–

    Awwwww…isn’t Glenny just so precious?
    “sniff..is it my fault??”

    Can someone give Glenny a hug? Little pat on the head, saying “it’s ok”??

    Anyone??

  343. RaiderTW Says:

    bydavidwhite
    about 1 hour ago from mobile web Cable: “It’s an internal issue, I’m not going to comment on that.” Three times, PR guy cuts off follow-ups

    Other than that, nothing much going on here in Napa.

  344. NoMoreFargas Says:

    Maybe he told cable what we all know fargas sucks.

  345. Richochet Says:

    Kush Says:
    August 17th, 2009 at 6:31 pm
    Actually fu*k boi Rackoshit-

    It’s 73rd and Mac. No one from Oakland recognizes 73rd and Foothill.

    Keep riding your tricycle with your helmet, retard.

    I’m done debating Oakland demographics with your dumb ass. I’m the one who lives here, you’re the one who called East Oakland a repressed, slum…but I’m the one who’s afraid to live here. okkaaayy. That makes a whole lotta a sense.
    —————————–
    In other words, you stating foothill is closer to 880, at the coliseum, than it is to 580 is total bunk.

    Yeah, I know.
    Everyone knows.

    As far as you being afraid? Your comments SCREAM afraid.
    Besides, a lot of people live in area’s they’re afraid to walk around in. Considering how much you live on this site, something tells me you’re scared shitless.

    And as I stated, you live there because you have no choice, not by choice..NO ONE lives in Oakland by choice..period.

    BTW..”slow to follow the dots” one..I didn’t state 73/Mac..I stated “go up Hegenberger/73rd”..see, moron, Hegenberger turns into 73rd..just like Foothill turns into Mac..fool.

    Now, back to the shallow end, little man.

  346. Raider75 Says:

    Mark Schlereth (Sp?) is reporting on ESPN that Cable said nothing happened between he and Hanson.

  347. DarthPirate Says:

    I hope Mike Mitchell hits as hard as Cable.

  348. Raider75 Says:

    Berman reported that Mark Schlereth talked to Cable and this is what Cable had to say.

  349. Bishop916 Says:

    I’m glad Cable went all-Tony-Soprano on his a$$.

    1). Adds a bit of the ol’ Madden-turning-tables-over mystique to the team. ~PLUS~

    2). It gives the mediots something to chew on besides counting DHB drops or commenting on the poor play of our QB.

    Oh yeah. Btw, Kyle Orton made J-Rock look all-pro.
    I’m just sayin’…

  350. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    Big news about to break out of Denver sometime tonight…..The implosion continues….

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/08/17/bombshell-alert-issued-as-to-the-broncos/

  351. Raider kENN Says:

    Thats crazy. I know this isn’t related to this topic, but i can’t find it anywhere .. does anyone know who the announcers will be for opening night vs the chargers?? Thanks.

  352. Florida Pete Says:

    SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
    August 17th, 2009 at 6:54 pm
    Big news about to break out of Denver sometime tonight…..The implosion continues….

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/08/17/bombshell-alert-issued-as-to-the-broncos/

    ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

    before i look… let me guess…

    McDaniels is canned…

  353. RaiderTW Says:

    Justin Fargas puts the handoff on the ground. I think that’s his 1st in camp.
    about 2 hours ago from mobile web

  354. Kush Says:

    Richochet Says:
    August 17th, 2009 at 6:47 pm And as I stated, you live there because you have no choice, not by choice..NO ONE lives in Oakland by choice..period.
    _________________________________________________________

    HahahahahROTFLMFAO. Thousands of people live in Oakland by choice. I’m one of them. Just because your bi*ch ass can’t stop and get gas in Oakland without sh*tting yourself doesn’t mean that no one wants to live in Oakland.

    I love Oakland, I live in Oakland, and wall always call Oakland home.

    Now go back to getting your stool pushed in by Crabtree
    “the steal of the draft.”lmao.

    Bitch.

  355. Kush Says:

    will

  356. KoolKell Says:

    I haven’t seen the Denver game yet, bit I hear Orton was really bad. Great.

  357. vegas raider Says:

    My guess is that they trade Marshall, maybe to Chicago.

  358. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    I think its something with Marshall or the quarterback.

    Either way…it should equal two victories on the Raiders list…

  359. SaintKaufman Says:

    This has got to be the greatest Bronco offseason ever.
    Keep ‘em coming smellas!

  360. Richochet Says:

    Kush Says:
    August 17th, 2009 at 6:58 pm
    Richochet Says:
    August 17th, 2009 at 6:47 pm And as I stated, you live there because you have no choice, not by choice..NO ONE lives in Oakland by choice..period.
    _________________________________________________________

    HahahahahROTFLMFAO. Thousands of people live in Oakland by choice. I’m one of them. Just because your bi*ch ass can’t stop and get gas in Oakland without sh*tting yourself doesn’t mean that no one wants to live in Oakland.

    I love Oakland, I live in Oakland, and wall always call Oakland home.

    ==================

    Riiiiiggghhht…because everyone aspires to go directly to one of the ugliest sty’s in the country and say ‘oh yeah, I’m happy”.

    And oh..sure..everyone just states “it’s a slum…place smells like a toilet…houses are either boarded up or barred up..full of lowlifes…sure, exactly what I’m looking for”

    Just accept facts..you’re there because you don’t have the ability to get out of the gutter, and you accept it.

    LMFAO at “I choose to live in squalor” Dude, you have no choice.

    But hey, why don’t you explain to all the advantages to living in the ghetto..I’m sure it must be a long list.

  361. Raider kENN Says:

    anyone know who the announcers will be 9/14 raiders chargers?

  362. Oakglenn Says:

    # Richochet Says:
    August 17th, 2009 at 6:17 pm

    BTW..you ever notice that, with the exception of at the Hall of Fame, you’ve NEVER SEEN MADDEN ANYWHERE WITH AL DAVIS..not at any games..not at any functions..no where, EVER.
    Yeah, LMAO, they’re just “best of buddies”..aren’t they?
    ——————————————————–
    Looks like rack-o-shit gets stupider by the second. Maybe the reason Madden doesn’t hang out with Davis is Madden happened to be WORKING the last THIRTY YEARS in the exact same industry as Davis, you damn idiot. And when he wasn’t working, he was in his bus going to game sites, and when he wasn’t doing that, he was with his own family. And when he was back here in the Bay Area HE WAS at Raider HQ you damn idiot. What a Know nothing moron you are rack-o-shit.

  363. Oakglenn Says:

    Rack-oshit there are tons of multi million dollar homes here. They don’t look boarded up to me. You must be looking at your own house. Or your moms house.

  364. Norco Bob Says:

    KENN golic and greenjew will be in booth.

  365. Kush Says:

    Rackoshit has a monthly period. That’s why he’s so emotional all the time.

  366. Oakglenn Says:

    racko-shit has hit a new intellectual LOW for the blog. And we’re talking about a blog that has missed-a-brain and MR as contributors here.

  367. Raider kENN Says:

    Thanks Norco. I knew they did it last year, just wasnt sure they were doing it again

  368. Lynn from Snot Says:

    Ditka?

  369. Kush Says:

    Who really cares if Cable socked Hanson in the jaw. The players obviously don’t. The fact that they chanted “Cable Bumaye” shows that either they find it funny or they actually respect Cable for his stand behind closed doors.

    Football players sock people for a living. I think they respect their coach being able to stand up for what he believes in.

    I can hear Cable’s speech now…

    “You guys see how I bitch slapped Hanson? Well that’s how I want you to bitch slap Phillip Rivers on monday Night Football.”

    Thunderous applause follows.

  370. Terrapin Says:

    According to David White the incident occurred Aug 5th …over a week ago?

  371. Oakglenn Says:

    # Kush Says:
    August 17th, 2009 at 6:58 pm

    Richochet Says:
    August 17th, 2009 at 6:47 pm And as I stated, you live there because you have no choice, not by choice..NO ONE lives in Oakland by choice..period.
    _________________________________________________________

    HahahahahROTFLMFAO. Thousands of people live in Oakland by choice. I’m one of them. Just because your bi*ch ass can’t stop and get gas in Oakland without sh*tting yourself doesn’t mean that no one wants to live in Oakland.

    I love Oakland, I live in Oakland, and wall always call Oakland home.

    Now go back to getting your stool pushed in by Crabtree
    “the steal of the draft.”lmao.

    Bitch.
    ———————————————–

    hahahaha. Craptree will be the steal of the draft alright. The 2010 draft. Where Craptree sit out an entire year, reenters, is picked in the 4th round for waaaay less money, and DHB has developed into a good receiver at that point with undeniably better natural physical skills. See Shilens, Chaz.

  372. Oakglenn Says:

    Kush you’re right on a lot of levels. The only people who care about Cable-bumya are Adam Shefter making his BSPN debut and maddenloser who thinks I am maddenraiderisadouchebag. While I am NOT maddenraiderisadouchebag, it is kind of a catchy handle.

  373. Richochet Says:

    Oakglenn Says:
    August 17th, 2009 at 7:11 pm
    # Richochet Says:
    August 17th, 2009 at 6:17 pm

    BTW..you ever notice that, with the exception of at the Hall of Fame, you’ve NEVER SEEN MADDEN ANYWHERE WITH AL DAVIS..not at any games..not at any functions..no where, EVER.
    Yeah, LMAO, they’re just “best of buddies”..aren’t they?
    ——————————————————–
    Looks like rack-o-shit gets stupider by the second. Maybe the reason Madden doesn’t hang out with Davis is Madden happened to be WORKING the last THIRTY YEARS in the exact same industry as Davis, you damn idiot. And when he wasn’t working, he was in his bus going to game sites, and when he wasn’t doing that, he was with his own family. And when he was back here in the Bay Area HE WAS at Raider HQ you damn idiot. What a Know nothing moron you are rack-o-shit.
    ——————————-
    Guess what, shit for brains? Between the Super Bowl and preseason is 7 MONTHS.

    Madden lives in Pleasanton…LESS THAN AN HOUR FROM OAKLAND..AND HE NEVER BOTHERS TO TAKE A MOMENT TO EVEN STOP BY.
    Let me state it again, you don’t EVER hear about Al Davis EVER spending one single minute with John Madden..anywhere…EVER.
    So save that weak “They’re friends”.

    Al Davis screwed over Madden, and everyone except the really slow Raider fans know it.
    Hell dude, even your fellow Raider fans think you’re slow.
    Stupid is as stupid does, dumbass.

  374. Terrapin Says:

    Also according to Raiderbeat it occurred Aug 5th. That’s a fact that Jerry didn’t mention.

    Watched 1Q of the Carolina vs Giants game. Giants look pretty stout. Carolina good, but not as good as the GMen.

    I was just looking to find someway to measure the Raiders offense (thier defense simply wasn’t even close to these two teams) because I needed something to do for the moment. So I re-watched the 1Q vs Dallas afterward. I was impressed. More exciting than Carolina but not as sharp as NY. Suffice to say, the main difference was QB ball placement (JR misfiring the deep balls) and penalties. Otherwise, this offense was just as dynamic if not BETTER.

    They just shoot themselves in the foot with the penalties (ex penalities Raiders probably would’ve scored on both drives, 14pts)

  375. Kush Says:

    Rackoshit has a monthly period.

    It comes out of his mouth.

  376. Richochet Says:

    Oakglenn Says:
    August 17th, 2009 at 7:12 pm
    Rack-oshit there are tons of multi million dollar homes here. They don’t look boarded up to me. You must be looking at your own house. Or your moms house.
    ================
    Sorry, peanut, you’re confused.
    You’re thinking about Piedmont.
    Piedmont is NOT Oakland, lol..

  377. 408RAIDER Says:

    sup NATION???

    In Cable I trust!!!

  378. Oakglenn Says:

    Richochet Says:
    August 17th, 2009 at 7:48 pm

    Oakglenn Says:
    August 17th, 2009 at 7:11 pm
    # Richochet Says:
    August 17th, 2009 at 6:17 pm

    BTW..you ever notice that, with the exception of at the Hall of Fame, you’ve NEVER SEEN MADDEN ANYWHERE WITH AL DAVIS..not at any games..not at any functions..no where, EVER.
    Yeah, LMAO, they’re just “best of buddies”..aren’t they?
    ——————————————————–
    Looks like rack-o-shit gets stupider by the second. Maybe the reason Madden doesn’t hang out with Davis is Madden happened to be WORKING the last THIRTY YEARS in the exact same industry as Davis, you damn idiot. And when he wasn’t working, he was in his bus going to game sites, and when he wasn’t doing that, he was with his own family. And when he was back here in the Bay Area HE WAS at Raider HQ you damn idiot. What a Know nothing moron you are rack-o-shit.
    ——————————-
    Guess what, shit for brains? Between the Super Bowl and preseason is 7 MONTHS.
    ————————————————

    Actually, the Super Bowl is in February and training camps open in July. It has been this way for years. So, March, April, May, June, July. Seems like a little over 5 months to me. Or did you not know the names of the months or how to count??? Which is it??? I mean this rack-oshit guy can’t even count to five. Hey rack-oshit, what are the names of the days of the week?? Do you how to tie your own shoes?? I didn’t think so. Stay outta the fast lane crapturd.

  379. raidertay Says:

    I didn’t like the fact that DHB only catch was wit his chest. That’s always gonna work wit JRuss

  380. Oakglenn Says:

    # Richochet Says:
    August 17th, 2009 at 7:53 pm

    Oakglenn Says:
    August 17th, 2009 at 7:12 pm
    Rack-oshit there are tons of multi million dollar homes here. They don’t look boarded up to me. You must be looking at your own house. Or your moms house.
    ================
    Sorry, peanut, you’re confused.
    You’re thinking about Piedmont.
    Piedmont is NOT Oakland, lol..
    ——————————————

    Rackoshit millions is much much much harder for a small mind to comprehend than say the number five. You can’t comprehend five, more of less millions. Have someone teach you how to tie your shoes. That would be something you might be able to learn.

  381. Richochet Says:

    Kush Says:
    August 17th, 2009 at 7:32 pm
    Who really cares if Cable socked Hanson in the jaw. The players obviously don’t. The fact that they chanted “Cable Bumaye” shows that either they find it funny or they actually respect Cable for his stand behind closed doors.

    Football players sock people for a living. I think they respect their coach being able to stand up for what he believes in.

    I can hear Cable’s speech now…

    “You guys see how I bitch slapped Hanson? Well that’s how I want you to bitch slap Phillip Rivers on monday Night Football.”

    Thunderous applause follows.

    ======================
    Oh geez…another “bright” Raider fan.

    No, Kush the Puss, I seriously doubt that a group of guys who routinely lead the NFL in stupid penalties, and chanting “way to go, coach”

    And damn..even alluding that Cable would state “That’s what I want you to do in a game” makes you truly dumber than cotton….

    My apologies to OakGlennCottonBall

  382. SouthTexasRaider Says:

    whats up nation

  383. RaiderTW Says:

    “It’s an internal issue, I’m not going to comment on that,” Cable said on Monday, according to the San Francisco Chronicle.
    ———–
    Wow, just like Cheney, can’t comment on an on going ivestigation. Like I said, at least he didn’t shoot somebody in the face.

  384. Oakglenn Says:

    DHB is pretty impressive especially his quickness. And I don’t mean speed, I mean quickness. He has an uncanny natural burst that is really impressive. Certainly needs work on his game, but he is a hard working young guy. Something that Craptree can’t really claim.

  385. Kush Says:

    Rackoshit.

    Who’s your favorite football team?

  386. Richochet Says:

    Oakglenn Says:
    August 17th, 2009 at 7:55 pm
    Richochet Says:
    August 17th, 2009 at 7:48 pm

    Oakglenn Says:
    August 17th, 2009 at 7:11 pm
    # Richochet Says:
    August 17th, 2009 at 6:17 pm

    BTW..you ever notice that, with the exception of at the Hall of Fame, you’ve NEVER SEEN MADDEN ANYWHERE WITH AL DAVIS..not at any games..not at any functions..no where, EVER.
    Yeah, LMAO, they’re just “best of buddies”..aren’t they?
    ——————————————————–
    Looks like rack-o-shit gets stupider by the second. Maybe the reason Madden doesn’t hang out with Davis is Madden happened to be WORKING the last THIRTY YEARS in the exact same industry as Davis, you damn idiot. And when he wasn’t working, he was in his bus going to game sites, and when he wasn’t doing that, he was with his own family. And when he was back here in the Bay Area HE WAS at Raider HQ you damn idiot. What a Know nothing moron you are rack-o-shit.
    ——————————-
    Guess what, shit for brains? Between the Super Bowl and preseason is 7 MONTHS.
    ————————————————

    Actually, the Super Bowl is in February and training camps open in July. It has been this way for years. So, March, April, May, June, July. Seems like a little over 5 months to me. Or did you not know the names of the months or how to count??? Which is it??? I mean this rack-oshit guy can’t even count to five. Hey rack-oshit, what are the names of the days of the week?? Do you how to tie your own shoes?? I didn’t think so. Stay outta the fast lane crapturd.
    =========
    Like slapping a little child around.

    Why do I just know you’re a teenager?

    Ok, cottonball, take notes.

    Madden WASN’T ANNOUNCING THE SUPER BOWL in 2008..also didn’t announce it in 2007, DUMBASS..nor was in announcing in 2005, or in 2004.

    Now, go get your crayon, and a big piece of paper.
    Try and figure out how much time it is between middle of January, to the middle of August, when the next game is…7 months, lol, you dumbass.

    Oh, and shit for brains? Madden doesn’t travel around during TRAINING CAMP, FOOL, he travels for games.

    Now I know why so many posters here consider you such an easy target, lol..it’s almost like you’re a glutton for punishment.

  387. ohioraider Says:

    The day Cable punches out Uncle Al is the day to rejoice.

  388. Oakglenn Says:

    The offensive and defensive lines played poorly in the last game. Routt had an awful game. In fact Routt was soo bad, that John Bowie looked good. Other than that, the Raiders certainly showed some bright spots. Greg Ellis looks like a very good free agent acquisition, the corners played well, the RB’s played well, Jamarcus looked good, and one thing that no one here has mentioned is I thought Brandon Myers the TE out of Iowa looked pretty good out there.

  389. Oakglenn Says:

    Rackoshit, in case you didn’t notice, you have PROVEN yourself to be an absolute imbecile. Repeatedly. NO ONE CARES what you think. Your own mom doesn’t care what you think. No one does.

  390. 408RAIDER Says:

    # ohioraider Says:
    August 17th, 2009 at 8:06 pm

    The day Cable punches out Uncle Al is the day to rejoice.
    —————————

    your joking right??

    are you 1 of those tough guys that beats up the elderly??

  391. 408RAIDER Says:

    p_ssy!!!

  392. 408RAIDER Says:

    sup NATION help me get to 408! please

  393. Kush Says:

    Rackoshit-

    Who’s your favorite football team?

  394. Mistabrown Says:

    Isnt this interesting! Oakglen, your right tit Priest was in here creaming his jeans about how good both lines played. I think he was scratching with a pad & pencil charting plays…lmao

    Why dont you two tits take turns calling each other stupid now!

    Oakglenn Says:
    August 17th, 2009 at 8:06 pm

    The offensive and defensive lines played poorly in the last game.

  395. Nnamdi21 Says:

    YEAH!!!!

    I LOVE IT!!!!

    LETS GET SOME OF THAT RAIDER NASTINESS BACK!!!

    CABLE!!! NEXT GUY THAT JUMPS OFF SIDES? KNOCK HIM OUT!!!

  396. KoolKell Says:

    4th grade petty bulllshyt’s been going on for over 2 hours.

    Oakglenn you and Richochet sound like the same guy, pathetic. I just don’t understand how a grown man can be sooooooooooooooo petty.

  397. Mistabrown Says:

    Oakglen I see you’ve focused your sociopathic behavior on Richochet. Maybe with a little help & some TLC from your cat you might mature into a 12 year old!

  398. KoolKell Says:

    Oh no, now MistaBrownStains. I’m out.

  399. Nnamdi21 Says:

    Oakglenn Says:
    August 17th, 2009 at 8:06 pm

    The offensive and defensive lines played poorly in the last game

    =================================

    Dallas is way more talented on both sides of the line more like it.

    Some of it did look hauntingly familiar.

    I think they’re right about moving him out of the MIKE

  400. 408RAIDER Says:

    KK

    hows it going brethren?? whats your take on cables ko??

  401. Kush Says:

    Al Davis needs to have the NY Giants on speed dial once cuts start. The Giants just know how to pick D Linemen. Their castoffs would probably be able to start for us.

    Seriously. Just watched MNF. Their 2nd and 3rd string Defense was impressive.

  402. 408RAIDER Says:

    come on yall a lil help please

  403. Mistabrown Says:

    Hey KK, are you feeling better ? Do you want to answer my question now?

  404. 408RAIDER Says:

    I hear ya KUSH

  405. Oakglenn Says:

    # Richochet Says:
    August 17th, 2009 at 8:05 pm

    Now, go get your crayon, and a big piece of paper.
    Try and figure out how much time it is between middle of January, to the middle of August, when the next game is…7 months, lol, you dumbass.

    Oh, and shit for brains? Madden doesn’t travel around during TRAINING CAMP, FOOL, he travels for games.

    Now I know why so many posters here consider you such an easy target, lol..it’s almost like you’re a glutton for punishment.
    ——————————————————-

    God, this guy is a moron and talk about knocked out on his feet. Get your little crayon out rackoshit. If games end in the middle of January like you said, then it would be Feb, March, April, May, that’s four, June, five, camps open in July, and once again, if you EVER ACTUALLY LISTENED TO MADDEN on his radio show, he would be visiting camps, since he did preseason games starting in early August and sometimes the Hall of Fame Game, and he would want to be prepared. So, ONCE AGAIN, that would be slightly over five months, now for the third time!!! How can this guy not be able to count to five??? I don’t think I have ever seen any one as dumb as this idiot. I mean this guy is missed-a-brain calibre dumb.

  406. 408RAIDER Says:

    wheres the fix jerry?

  407. Mistabrown Says:

    LMAO
    Run U pu$$y!

    # KoolKell Says:
    August 17th, 2009 at 8:13 pm

    Oh no, now MistaBrown. I’m out.

  408. Mistabrown Says:

    Oakglen, do you ever get tired of calling people morons & imbeciles in here?

    I guess not hence the sociopathic tendencies..

  409. 408RAIDER Says:

    408 what the hell 408 408

  410. Oakglenn Says:

    missed-a-brain you are an undeniable moron. undeniable. even your own mom knows you are a complete moron. I will now talk to someone who has a brain. Not you.

  411. 408RAIDER Says:

    PFFFFTTT I give up (4 today) yo Mistabrown next time you hit on 408 will you please give me my props???

  412. priesttj Says:

    Even ESPN, is saying it didn’t happen. Stinky, said he talked to Cable and Cable said it didn’t happen. ESPN would love fo rit to be true, but apparently it’s not.

  413. Mistabrown Says:

    Priest says we dominated Dallas. You 3 should get together & decide who the “stupid moron” is!

    # Nnamdi21 Says:
    August 17th, 2009 at 8:13 pm

    Oakglenn Says:
    August 17th, 2009 at 8:06 pm

    The offensive and defensive lines played poorly in the last game

    =================================

    Dallas is way more talented on both sides of the line more like it.

    Some of it did look hauntingly familiar.

    I think they’re right about moving him out of the MIKE

  414. Mistabrown Says:

    Hey Priest is here! TJ, can you answer me a question?

  415. Nnamdi21 Says:

    “It will be handled in house”

    Thank god. Oakland may be the last bastion of real man hood.

    None of this “im going to sue you” bs.

    I can remember before all these pus-sies started carrying guns when REAL men stood toe to toe and one of them got their reset button hit.

    End of it.

    You walked around with a sore jaw and you thought about it next time you were wnating to mouth the fuk off.

    Way to go Oakland. Lest see some of that transfered to the field shall we?

  416. Oakglenn Says:

    # Nnamdi21 Says:
    August 17th, 2009 at 8:13 pm

    Oakglenn Says:
    August 17th, 2009 at 8:06 pm

    The offensive and defensive lines played poorly in the last game

    =================================

    Dallas is way more talented on both sides of the line more like it.

    Some of it did look hauntingly familiar.

    I think they’re right about moving him out of the MIKE
    ———————————————————

    Dallas certainly has some solid players on the lines. Granted, with Gallery out, and a brand new center who actually played fairly well, the offensive line was not a disaster, the defensive line was.

  417. priesttj Says:

    Kush, so was our 2nd and 3rd team defense, you just did’t notice. uh hummm!!

  418. Nnamdi21 Says:

    412. Now I’m a little sad…

  419. Kush Says:

    Adam Sphincter and Marc Schl-whatever BSPN commentators both said that there is no credible evidence that Cable socked Hanson in the jaw.

    They said that they spoke with Cable and he admitted a heated disagreement occured, but that no punches were thrown whatsoever. They concurred that all facts they have agree with Cable’s version of what happened.

    They then went on to say that this kind of incident may be something that galvanizes that entire team for the good.

    And this report came from the guys that usually hate on us… Ricochet, Madden Raider, and Raider Ron…

    I mean Adam Sphincter and BSPN.

  420. Oakglenn Says:

    # Oakglenn Says:
    August 17th, 2009 at 6:20 pm

    As I Said earlier:

    with regards to Cable-bumya, obviously if you are upset about this, you have never been around a pro or college football team in your life.

  421. Nnamdi21 Says:

    416. They played with poor technique but again, Dallas has some good elements to its o line.

  422. Nnamdi21 Says:

    419. Now I’m a little happy…

    Such a roller coaster!

    “I’m trapped in a glass case of emoshaaaaawn!!!!”

  423. Oakglenn Says:

    # Kush Says:
    August 17th, 2009 at 8:15 pm

    Al Davis needs to have the NY Giants on speed dial once cuts start. The Giants just know how to pick D Linemen. Their castoffs would probably be able to start for us.

    Seriously. Just watched MNF. Their 2nd and 3rd string Defense was impressive.
    ———————————————–

    And let’s not forget their offensive line. They’ve got two undrafted guys starting for them on their Oline! That’s how you get it done.

  424. SouthTexasRaider Says:

    any fantasy league players here. i have a yahoo league with about 9 slots open if anyone is interested

  425. Mistabrown Says:

    OakGlen,
    Priest said we DOMINATED dallas on both sides of the line. Are you going to call him a moron or imbecile ?

  426. Kush Says:

    NEW POST

  427. Rellik30 Says:

    Went to the DMV today…it took four hours…I thought to myself… “wouldnt it be great if my health care was this way too.”

  428. RaiderRobG Says:

    LMAO! Good call on that on Rellik!

  429. Richochet Says:

    Oakglenn Says:
    August 17th, 2009 at 8:16 pm
    # Richochet Says:
    August 17th, 2009 at 8:05 pm

    Now, go get your crayon, and a big piece of paper.
    Try and figure out how much time it is between middle of January, to the middle of August, when the next game is…7 months, lol, you dumbass.

    Oh, and shit for brains? Madden doesn’t travel around during TRAINING CAMP, FOOL, he travels for games.

    Now I know why so many posters here consider you such an easy target, lol..it’s almost like you’re a glutton for punishment.
    ——————————————————-

    God, this guy is a moron and talk about knocked out on his feet. Get your little crayon out rackoshit. If games end in the middle of January like you said, then it would be Feb, March, April, May, that’s four, June, five, camps open in July, and once again, if you EVER ACTUALLY LISTENED TO MADDEN on his radio show, he would be visiting camps, since he did preseason games starting in early August and sometimes the Hall of Fame Game, and he would want to be prepared. So, ONCE AGAIN, that would be slightly over five months, now for the third time!!! How can this guy not be able to count to five??? I don’t think I have ever seen any one as dumb as this idiot. I mean this guy is missed-a-brain calibre dumb.
    ====================================
    What’s so difficult for you?

    yeah, yeah, I can expose your dumbass for having problems with simple math, but first let’s dwell on the fact that Madden NEVER GIVES AL DAVIS THE TIME OF DAY.

    oh, I’m sorry, dumbass..you wanted to avoid that point, didn’t you? Aren’t you the shit for brains who keeps running on what swell pals Al and John are?
    So instead of stating “I admit I’m dumber than cotton” you want to reply “Oh wait, Madden had 5 months off, and completely 100% had zero to do with Al for the last 20 plus years..instead of it being 7 months? lol..and that makes a difference..because??

    It doesn’t dumbass.

    Now, again, Madden stopped at camps in the area that he was doing a preseason game…he DIDN’T GO AROUND DURING TRAINING CAMP PRIOR TO GAMES BECAUSE MOST PLAYERS AREN’T EVEN BEING INTERVIEWED..you fool.

    Hey, you got busted, dumbass. Like it or not, 4 out of the last 6 years Davis DIDN’T announce the SB. Like it or not, dumbass, from middle of January to THE FIRST PRESEASON GAME is…come on..peanut..you can do it….

    Good boy…7 months.

    Now, uh..shit for brains? Anything on why Madden, who lives less than an hour away, hasn’t bothered to even stop by oakland? lol….

    Take your time..and hope everyone gets confused about the “uh..it’s uh…wait..uh..oh yeah..isn’t that five months? wait..jan…to august..wait..uh..huh? what?? ”

    HEY?? I got it..you just state “DUH” and we’ll all know exactly what you mean.

    Ok, peanut?

  430. Jombus1 Says:

    If this incident had happened in the 70’s or 80’s, nobody would have blinked..Football is a MAN”S GAME! Emotions overflow and people get violent. I listened to FATASS Warren Sapp with his giggling belly on NFL Network say “that felony charges should be brought up against Cable”… What a JOKE!! GO CABLE! I LOVE HIM EVEN MORE NOW!!! All I have to say to the guys on the team is, shit, you better not be sleeping in team meetings, Cable just might knock the shit out of you! GO RAIDERS!!!!

  431. RaiderRobG Says:

    Or even the early 90’s. I remember in 1991 when I was in army basic training all of seventeen years old and luck if I weighed 90 pounds. The times when a Drill Sergent could kick the dog crap out of you were coming to an end. One of the girls who probably signed up to impress his friends back home realized it wasn’t a game and that guts required wasn’t just in the advertisements but you had to have them to make it.

    Anyway, sissy boy refused to get out of his bunk one morning during a smoking session, saying he was sick and Drill walked over, yanked his ass out of bed and kick him, right in the dog ass, like the piece he was. But the guy refused to join the smoke session, causing the Drill Sergent to ass out and give the guy a little attitude adjustment. Even as I was in a great deal of discomfort, struggled in the up position of the front leaning rest, with my bird chest about to explode, I found the beating to be quite funny. And to this day I think a lot of well deserved beat downs, which are quite funny, especially for those stuck on stupid, are unfortunately all too often second guessed to the detriment of society.

    Anyway, Drill Sergent was booted, and the puss bag went home. But the flood gates were open to all the sissy boys, and things would never be the same…

    From there it progressed to time out stress cards for the new recruits, all the way to no score soccer games, the elimination of first place trophies, A+ students or anything that would separate the men from the boys, the achievers from the slackers, the winners from the losers.

    So yeah, I’m happy that a conflict may have been resolved with the good old Jack Johnson and Tom O’Leary. It reminds me of back in the day, working late nights with Fred Wayne at KCBS, who used to jokingly mock me about solving conflicts in the office through the use of physical violence and fisticuffs. Fred Wayne was a Pimp! But he always feared the possibility of a bit(# slap from yours truly.

    If you’re listing Fred, the People’s P.A. is still out there, solving problems through the use of physical violence. Sometimes, it’s the only way.

    Kudos to the Cable guy.

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