Raiders go to cone of silence
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Monday, August 17th, 2009 at 8:21 pm in Oakland Raiders.
There are two ways to deal with a media brushfire.
Attack it head on with the facts, maybe even be proactive, and snuff it out before it starts.
Or just go silent, let the fire rage, and act as if it’s none of your damn business.
Guess which one the Raiders picked after it finally leaked out that a Raiders assistant coach, presumably Randy Hanson, was hospitalized after being punched by another coach, reportedly Tom Cable?
“It’s an internal issue and we’re dealing with it, and that’s all I’m going to say,” Cable said following practice.
Cable invoked the same answer when asked if he was involved, and declined comment when if Hanson was still employed by the Raiders. Hanson wasn’t with the team in Napa.
After being informed one last time there were reports that it was he who had punched Hanson, Cable said, “I’m not going to comment on that. No comment.”
It was at that point a public relations employee terminated the press briefing.
A few things worth noting:
– When Raiders players chanted, “Cable, Bumaye,” during warmups, it is not in and of itself any proof that Cable slugged Hanson.
It was, however, hilarious. Cornerback Nnamdi Asomugha said it started with Justin Fargas, with others joining in. “Ali, Bumaye,” was what Ali fans shouted in Zaire as they rooted for him to take down heavyweight champion George Foreman, and it roughly translates to “Ali, kill him.”
It was a big part of the documentary, “When We Were Kings,” which recounted “The Rumble in the Jungle.”
If Raiders players had heard the story of Cable clocking Hanson before Monday, they were doing a pretty good job hiding it. Most had just begun to hear about it Monday afternoon as it infiltrated the Internet, first through the National Football Post and then AOL Fanhouse.
The chant was nothing more than a light moment breaking up another day of camp drudgery.
– Cable and Hanson have not been confirmed by anyone on the record as the combatants. According to the Napa Police Department, a 41-year-old coach was briefly hospitalized. Hanson is the only 41-year-old coach on staff, and he has been conspicuously absent of late.
– Hanson is so anonymous that he hasn’t been at practice for days, ostensibly since the altercation on Aug. 6, and few people even noticed.
“He hasn’t been around here and we haven’t seen much of him,” safety Hiram Eugene said. “They keep him in the offices.”
“I think guys were just finding out in spurts so it’s not like there was an announcement made,” cornerback Nnamdi Asomugha said.
And what a great announcement that would be _ Cable standing up before the team and giving official notice that he’d dropped an assistant coach a little more than half his size like a stone.
– Is it possible Cable didn’t do it? Near as I can tell, there are no witnesses who have been quoted by name.
But if Cable didn’t do it, then why wouldn’t you at least proclaim your innocence? By saying they were dealing with the matter internally, Cable is essnetially confirming there is a matter that needed to be dealt with.
For what it’s worth, ESPN’s Mark Schlereth said he talked to Cable and was told, “nothing happened.”
If nothing happened, then why not say it again in front of cameras and recorders?
– Cast Cable as some sort of Raiders renegade hero if you wish. But if Cable did send one of his assistants to the hospital, is this the guy you want teaching self-control and discipline to a team desperately in need of self-control and discipline?
Players get in scuffles all the time. Coaches on the same staff rarely do. They get in disagreements, raise their voices, but don’t often go the Buddy Ryan route against Kevin Gilbride, even behind closed doors.
– Hanson was the same guy who got under the skin of Lane Kiffin, who suspended him for one game, said he had medical issues and then tried to fire him. Al Davis backed Hanson.
A little background _ Hanson’s lifelong dream was to become a Raiders coach. He truly lives and dies silver and black, knows every detail about every player. The philosophies are engrained him him. I’ve been told by more than one person that Davis listens to him.
Hanson’s name will no doubt come up in the matter of Kiffin vs. Davis and the firing for cause. So if Hanson doesn’t return to the staff, expect him to remain in Alameda.
– Curious to see how the NFL handles this, if they’ll handle it. It’s a dead issue with the Napa police unless Hanson presses charges. The NFL, particularly in the Roger Goodell regime, doesn’t always concern itself with due process.
Then again, what can Goodell do if he doesn’t get straight answers and a cone of silence?
Carolina Panthers wide receiver Steve Smith faced league suspension for slugging a teammate, with the league stepping aside when the club invoked the penalty.
More news, notes and quotes from Monday’s single session, with the 49ers coming to Napa for four practices in the next two days:
– Jeff Garcia returned to practice and was immediately installed as the backup quarterback. He moved well, without a limp, and hopes to play against the 49ers Saturday. Cable said he thought Garcia looked a little rusty but had “good command as you would expect from someone who has played that much.”
Garcia ran as No. 2 until he gave way to Bruce Gradkowski and Charlie Frye toward the end of practice.
– The defense closed out practice with two stops with the offensive series getting the ball with 1:12 left on its own 15-yard line.
JaMarcus Russell failed to get a first down in four plays on his series, even though he connected with Zach Miller for eight yards on first down.
On second-and-2, Russell’s slant to Chaz Schilens was broken up by Chris Johnson and nearly intercepted. He went deep down the right sideline on third-and-2 to Schilens and wasn’t close, and on fourth down, Miller dropped a potential first down pass which could have been thrown better but was catchable.
Gradkowski’s series ended with an interception by Darrick Brown.
“Great job by the defense at the end there to get out of both two-minute drives and, obviously, the interception that would have ended the game,” Cable said. “So well done by those guys.”
– Garcia said his goal was simply to make the 53-man roster, although he laughed when he said it.
“I haven’t practiced in two weeks it starts to make me feel a little bit like I’m on the outside and need to work my way back in,” Garcia said. “I’m no spring chicken, either, so it’s one of those things where, it’s just the way this league is, you always feel like there’s that possibility out there, so for me it’s just important to be back out on the field and hopefully contribute in any way that I can.”
– One of those moments that looked good in a camp practice but could be disasterous in a game _ Gradkowski made a high throw which Zach Miller caught with a leap, and would have been leveled during a full contact situation.
– Having criticized Fargas’ ability as a receiver, it’s only fair to to note that he made a terrific one-handed catch while twisting back to the ball, beating Kirk Morrison on a post to the goal line.
– Not practicing were WR Louis Murphy (hip), Marcus Johnson (calf), John Wade (stinger), Isaiah Ekejiuba (shoulder) and Mike Mitchell (hamstring). Michael Huff didn’t finish practice with a sore quad.
As for Mitchell, Cable said the strong safety is at least a week away, meaning he’ll miss the 49ers scrimmages and game.
[You can leave a response, or trackback from your own site.]
August 17th, 2009 at 8:23 pm
so WTF happen??? 408 408 408!!!
August 17th, 2009 at 8:29 pm
Adam Sphincter and Marc Schl-whatever BSPN commentators both said that there is no credible evidence that Cable socked Hanson in the jaw.
They said that they spoke with Cable and he admitted a heated disagreement occured, but that no punches were thrown whatsoever. They concurred that all facts they have agree with Cable’s version of what happened.
They then went on to say that this kind of incident may be something that galvanizes that entire team for the good.
And this report came from the guys that usually hate on us… Ricochet, Madden Raider, and Raider Ron…
I mean Adam Sphincter and BSPN.
August 17th, 2009 at 8:32 pm
OakGlen,
Priest said we DOMINATED dallas on both sides of the line. Are you going to call him a moron or imbecile ?
August 17th, 2009 at 8:32 pm
any fantasy league players here. i have a yahoo league with about 9 slots open if anyone is interested
August 17th, 2009 at 8:33 pm
# Mistabrown Says:
August 17th, 2009 at 8:28 pm
OakGlen,
Priest said we DOMINATED dallas on both sides of the line. Are you going to call him a moron or imbecile ?
——————————————————–
Our second and third teams did well. Our first team offensive line did OK considering. Our first team defensive line, did not look overly good, but I don’t put that much credence into a first preseason game. So no, BHP is not a moron or an imbecile. You are. Undeniably.
August 17th, 2009 at 8:34 pm
Went to the DMV today…it took four hours…I thought to myself… “wouldnt it be great if my health care was this way too.”
August 17th, 2009 at 8:34 pm
Wrong site…lol…go Raideahs..Go cable…go Romo-cop…
August 17th, 2009 at 8:35 pm
LMAO
August 17th, 2009 at 8:37 pm
Relik, after the DMV you should have hit the Post Office you could have killed the whole day on GOVT ran disasters!
Hows your car running cash for clunkers wont last 4 ever!
August 17th, 2009 at 8:37 pm
Have any of you guys ever gone to a pro boxing match?? Sometimes in hotly contested fights, the ring erupts with cornermen, trainers, handlers, hanger-ons, all duking it out after the bout. Just imagine if you had 44 HUGE guys all in a ring. Tempers are going to flare. It happens. Next.
August 17th, 2009 at 8:38 pm
Oakglen, nobody sees your dbl standard or hypocrisy. You are fooling all of us!
lmao
Mental midget.
August 17th, 2009 at 8:40 pm
# SouthTexasRaider Says:
August 17th, 2009 at 8:32 pm
any fantasy league players here. i have a yahoo league with about 9 slots open if anyone is interested
——————————
myself
El Dirty
ad Thec would love to participate so long as the draft happens after aug 28th…
August 17th, 2009 at 8:40 pm
I know this is very hard to read but get your four year old daughter to help you sound out the words:
# Oakglenn Says:
August 17th, 2009 at 8:19 pm
missed-a-brain you are an undeniable moron. undeniable. even your own mom knows you are a complete moron. I will now talk to someone who has a brain. Not you.
August 17th, 2009 at 8:41 pm
STR
hit me up with the info @ the408RAIDER@yahoo.com thanx
August 17th, 2009 at 8:45 pm
# about 4 hours ago from PockeTwit
#
David White
bydavidwhiteJohn Madden in the house. is he here to yell “Boom!” to Cable?about 4 hours ago from mobile web
August 17th, 2009 at 8:46 pm
[...] Read more. [...]
August 17th, 2009 at 8:46 pm
for sure. draft is for next tuesday, 25th of august, is that cool?
Deep South Texas 508ers is league name
August 17th, 2009 at 8:49 pm
str dirty dont get out till the 28th…
FREE DIRTY!! canya move it back a few days??? got a few other people that would join also..
August 17th, 2009 at 8:50 pm
That guy Hanson seems looks like a obsessive weirdo, who probably is trying to manipulate the old man into giving him a head coaching job someday with the team.
His picture on raiders.com looks like a mug shot and definitely makes him look like a weirdo, to say the least.
August 17th, 2009 at 8:51 pm
Bed time… STR hit me up @ that yahoo link…
1 NATION!!!
August 17th, 2009 at 8:52 pm
Oakglenn Says:
August 17th, 2009 at 6:20 pm
As I Said earlier:
with regards to Cable-bumya, obviously if you are upset about this, you have never been around a pro or college football team in your life.
————————–
Then Jerry says:
“Players get in scuffles all the time. Coaches on the same staff rarely do. They get in disagreements, raise their voices, but don’t often go the Buddy Ryan route against Kevin Gilbride, even behind closed doors.”
—————————-
August 17th, 2009 at 8:57 pm
will do.
August 17th, 2009 at 8:58 pm
Oak, you know how it is you have to spell out everything for them or else they can’t figure it out for themselves. We were talking specicfically about the DT’s play. I never reall studied how well we did as far as DE’s are concerned I watched the DT’s singularly. The Dallas offense ran some funky stuff on the 2nd drive to avoid the DT’s. When an offense does that it is a concession………period.
We ran directly at the strength of their defense and ran extrememly well. Right in the A & B-gaps. We did run some off tackle stuff with DMC but other than that it was straight ahead smashmpouth football. We pressured their QB’s and covered their recievers.
While Warren is certainly no Haynesworth to sit and say he doesn’t draw doubles couldn’t be further from the truth. But for 6 months that’s all I read in here “WARREN CAN’T DRAW DOUBLES” one guy in here made Warren his favorite whipping boy.
Well Warren was doubled by the Dallas Cowboy’s 7 times in one half, so that guy was wrong. But will he admit it?………….HELL NO!!
August 17th, 2009 at 8:59 pm
all joking aside, if hanson did get his jaw broken by cable, then some sort of action needs to be taken on hansons behalf. really, how can you get your jaws cracked by your boss/superior and have no realistic means or recourse to exact justice?
hansons the most vulnerable in this situation. he’s some obscure low level assistant coach brought in by the previous guy. he’s middle aged and a football coach. it’s not like saying to hell with it and go into some other profession is likely for him. he gets clocked by his boss and what, if he complains or makes an issue of it then he might get dismissed by his current employer and be considered as a risky employee by other teams?
players get into scraps and even then, something like the romanowski thing a few years ago hardly ever happens, but coaches (possibly superiors on underlings) busting each other up? that’s beyond football and becomes a real workplace issue.
August 17th, 2009 at 9:08 pm
priesttj Says:
August 17th, 2009 at 8:58 pm
The Dallas offense ran some funky stuff on the 2nd drive to avoid the DT’s. When an offense does that it is a concession………period.
_______________________________________________________
Priest
When I watched the game I did not see a bunch of just “funky stuff” on that 2nd Dallas drive.
2nd Dallas Offensive Series with Romo still the Dallas QB.
1st play: Short pass from Romo to the tight end Bennett who gives a vicious stiff arm to Chris Johnson for a 7 yard gain.
2nd play: Barber runs straight up the middle on our defense for a 1st down.
3rd play: Play action from Romo to Roy Williams. Routt victimized for a 12 yd. gain. 1st down.
4th play. Felix Jones runs to the left side for a 12 yard gain. 1st down.
5th play: Romo play action. Routt called for holding resulting in an automatic 1st down.
6th play: Very well executed misdirection running play from Romo to Creighton for a substantial gain and another, 1st down.
7th play. Screen play to Felix Jones. You guessed it folks, another 1st down!
8th play: Felix Jones scores a TD on a running play up the middle. The call is overturned on an offensive holding call on Dallas.
9th play. Romo Shotgun. Raiders show blitz but only rush 3. TD Romo to Whitten. All Raider commentators comment on how the Raiders only send three pass rushers and that Romo had 5 seconds to throw the ball.
Cowboys 7 Raiders 3.
I think that selection of play calling shows a balanced drive. 4 running plays and 5 passing plays.
The only “funky” run play was the misdirection run by Creighton. The other three run plays were, Up the Middle, To the left side, and up the middle again.
Our run defense did not hold courtesy of Trevor Scott and Kirk Morrison in my opinion, and Routt got victimized repeatedly.
Obviously you and I disagree, but that is what happened on that 2nd Dallas drive.
August 17th, 2009 at 9:09 pm
Jerry, the reason he said he wont comment is because you low life media loser are there only for the free food, its none of your f*ckin biz what goes on there.
August 17th, 2009 at 9:10 pm
Jerry you are a bitch, writing your little blog, snivlin that Cable didnt go into detail about what went down,.Jerry Im sure you got your fat ass kicked many times,..so stop your snivlin,..you little fat bitch.
August 17th, 2009 at 9:11 pm
Crister, I know you mean well and I’m nt at all taking issue with what you’re saying, I’m just saying when all the evidence comes out Hanson aint the vulnerable type. Trust me.
Hanson is very fiesty, but I don’t know what happened so, I’ll leave it at that.
August 17th, 2009 at 9:11 pm
Priest is so full of shitt its starting to be very clear he works for the Raiders PR dept. I went back and watched the parts of the game where the Boys ones went against the Raiders ones and not one time did I see a dbl team on Warren and more than once I saw the guy get moved around by a single lineman, pretty sure it was Kosier. Its a fact, go back and watch the game.
August 17th, 2009 at 9:12 pm
IF Cable is suspended for a game, maybe even opening night vs. SD, who steps in temporarily? Hackett, Tollner, Marshall? Part of me is shocked, part of me supports Cable even more now. Wow.
August 17th, 2009 at 9:13 pm
Here comes the Raider PR guy rushing to Fat Boy Cables defense. Where was he when Kiffin wanted to fire the guy??
August 17th, 2009 at 9:14 pm
TJ,..did you call Mike Urban today?..or waiting for Gary to return?
August 17th, 2009 at 9:15 pm
I wish Cable would have killed that guy.
August 17th, 2009 at 9:16 pm
Who says Coach Cable didnt Pay for the Pizza? RAIDERS
August 17th, 2009 at 9:16 pm
Narco Boob
You’re such a loser.
August 17th, 2009 at 9:17 pm
Kush come on man a reverse, that’ like the fake punt on the 1st series in preaseason by the Titans. That’s crap. Most teams run basic stuff to see if guy’s can play football. They want to get on film if a OT can play or a OG can play. You find out by running stuff in your base formaions. They ran misdirection which is fine and then a sweep and the a reverse almost consecutively.
That’s my point, if we have such bad players at DT do you really think Dallas runs a REVERSE?? come on man??!!
August 17th, 2009 at 9:19 pm
Kool,…you think I care what a loser like you thinks? I dont and nobody else does either.
August 17th, 2009 at 9:20 pm
Richochet is a charger fan
hey mistabrown i called your bluff about mcnabb you said he was talking shit about kolb and wanted to be released from the eagles after he was drafted? i ask you to pull up one article to prove your point and you just change topics haha thinks for proving me right idiots will always try to mislead others with the half truth or twisted truth
August 17th, 2009 at 9:21 pm
Dallas Coach in the Sky Box- ” Coach theyre crashing hard and not staying at home on strong side run plays”
Dallas OC- ” OK, lets pop a reverse on em”
Dallas Coach in Box- ” Thats what I was thinking”
August 17th, 2009 at 9:21 pm
If you know football that is an obvious concession that they can’t get Warren blocked I mean how plain do I have to make it? They doubled the guy on runs and pass plays what other evidence do you NEED? A REVERSE?!?
August 17th, 2009 at 9:22 pm
Priesttj Says:
August 17th, 2009 at 9:17 pm
Kush come on man a reverse, that’ like the fake punt on the 1st series in preaseason by the Titans. That’s crap. Most teams run basic stuff to see if guy’s can play football. They want to get on film if a OT can play or a OG can play. You find out by running stuff in your base formaions. They ran misdirection which is fine and then a sweep and the a reverse almost consecutively.
That’s my point, if we have such bad players at DT do you really think Dallas runs a REVERSE?? come on man??!!
——————-
Very weak response to Kush’s post #25. But don’t expect any intellectual honesty from “the mouthpiece”, Kush.
August 17th, 2009 at 9:24 pm
Narco Boob
Yeah, you care, you poor lonely bast@rd.
August 17th, 2009 at 9:24 pm
So teams only run reverses against teams with good DTs?
LOL! WTF? Priest is such a freakn moron.
August 17th, 2009 at 9:25 pm
AW,..is pool old kell having another sad night so he pops in here to argue?…typical Alameda loser.
August 17th, 2009 at 9:25 pm
Its Norco Boob, not Bob.
August 17th, 2009 at 9:26 pm
Catch you “fans” later,..and kell thanks again for being the blog frustrated old man again,..we can always count on you for that.
August 17th, 2009 at 9:26 pm
Priest I’m not talking bad about our tackles. Like I said, to command a double team in any sport is a sign of respect by the defense.
But we cannot ignore the fact that 3 of the 4 running plays were up to middle and to the left side. And they were almost all first down runs.
I’m criticizing Scott as a base end and Morrisson as a middle linebacker.
I keep hearing about Nnamdi helping stop the run. Your run defense is not supposed to be dependent on your cornerback.
That’s why corners and safeties are called the SECONDARY. They are the second line of defense, not the first. The fact that Asomugha has been our best run defender is indicative of our problem right there.
August 17th, 2009 at 9:28 pm
I’ll do whatever you want Norco Bob, just this one time. After all it’s not like you’re the only one asking I can’t believe the # of people that still approach me.
When people you don’t even know always know you based on the sound of your voice, it can get a little unnerving.
August 17th, 2009 at 9:29 pm
They didnt get doubled. Period end.
August 17th, 2009 at 9:31 pm
Warren is a good pass rushing DT but he has zero business as the base NT. This will not work going into the season
August 17th, 2009 at 9:34 pm
Read what this guy Oakglenn says, then Read what Jerry says. But that doesn’t stop him from talking to people like they’re a gawdamned fool.
Oakglenn Says:
August 17th, 2009 at 6:20 pm
As I Said earlier:
with regards to Cable-bumya, obviously if you are upset about this, you have never been around a pro or college football team in your life.
————————–
Then Jerry says:
“Players get in scuffles all the time. Coaches on the same staff rarely do. They get in disagreements, raise their voices, but don’t often go the Buddy Ryan route against Kevin Gilbride, even behind closed doors.”
August 17th, 2009 at 9:34 pm
I’m kind of with Priest on them calling an end around on the 2nd defensive series of the preseason?? Give me a break.
But on the Felix Jones run it was just like it was drawn up on the offensive chalkboard and eerily like what we have seen here for years: No one stacked their guy, no one shed their block, until Jones got to the secondary and was run off the boundary. Actually the boundary made the tackle on that play.
August 17th, 2009 at 9:35 pm
Warren did get doubled and dammit it will be hurting Oakland all year
August 17th, 2009 at 9:36 pm
Kush that’s exactly where the blame should go, it also is what I’ve been saying for a long time. It’s the entire defense, inside out. Discipline and fundamentals are lacking in some young players. Scott will learn or sit. He has to stack and shed awhich will turn the play back in. But he gave them a soft corner. Our DT’s are decent athletes but they are not like Darrel Russell and Chester were. They rarely get to perimeter. So we need a force on the edge on both sides. It could be Norris or the young kid Nixon based on what I saw later.
August 17th, 2009 at 9:37 pm
KoolKell Says:
August 17th, 2009 at 9:34 pm
Read what this guy Oakglenn says, then Read what Jerry says. But that doesn’t stop him from talking to people like they’re a gawdamned fool.
——————————————–
Kookie, you have never been around a sports team in your life have you?? In fact, you probably weren’t the last kid picked in your neighborhood to play, you were the kid that was NEVER picked to play by the kids in your hood.
August 17th, 2009 at 9:39 pm
Gerard Warren DID NOT play well. In fact, he looked like crap in pregame warmups. Warren better decide he wants to actually play the game of football or he’ll be out of the league pretty damn fast.
August 17th, 2009 at 9:39 pm
KK give us your assesment sir?? we’re all waiting with anticipation.
August 17th, 2009 at 9:42 pm
New news says Hanson cussed at DefC Marshall & Cable turned him over in his chair!! hahaha I would too.
August 17th, 2009 at 9:43 pm
Whining because Dallas called a reverse or end around is very, very weak.
August 17th, 2009 at 9:44 pm
Priest,
i have the game dvr’d. When did warren get doubled?
August 17th, 2009 at 9:45 pm
Oak, enlighten me, Warren didn’t play well?? Tell me why??
August 17th, 2009 at 9:45 pm
Oakglenn, Warren isnt a Nose Tackle. They need to sign Hollis Thomas pronto
August 17th, 2009 at 9:45 pm
I didn’t hear Cable or Marshall whining about the Cowboys being tricky in their play calling. Lol.
August 17th, 2009 at 9:46 pm
Warren did get doubled and later in Dallas’s second drive Warren did play better. In fact the holding call on the goal line, was called on the LG because Warren blew his guy up, but he has to do that waaaay more often.
August 17th, 2009 at 9:47 pm
When?
August 17th, 2009 at 9:47 pm
Bri you are right about Warren not being a NT.
August 17th, 2009 at 9:47 pm
Why are we tripping so hard on the dline? Dallas isnt a scrub oline. I think you people are better advised to wait and see what happens against a average line like the 49ers have. Our dline is still a work in progress under different coaching staff members. Come on. I know we got some things to work on but they arent so bad like you guys are claiming
August 17th, 2009 at 9:49 pm
KK, then you’re just dumb! whinning isn’t it, that IMO was a thing of beauty. It told me they can’t run on us. They may as well ran the ‘Statue of Liberty’ play. Wouldn’t that have been nice KK??
Or the hook ‘n’ lateral, why not the ‘fumbleroosky’
August 17th, 2009 at 9:49 pm
So the Raiders should be judged against scrubs, Brien?
August 17th, 2009 at 9:49 pm
BHP, You look at him early in Dallas’ second drive and he is getting blown off the ball. He gets no penetration on passing plays, and on the early runs is blown off the ball by his man. He does not look good out there until later in the drive, he seems to then realize he is in a football game and plays better. As I said earlier, I can’t get too excited about the first preseason game.
August 17th, 2009 at 9:50 pm
It wouldn’t be the Raiders without a side of crazy. People who complain just haven’t been a fan for long. Surprisingly Sclereth(stink) backed up Cable because he coached him in college.
August 17th, 2009 at 9:51 pm
I can tell you this Glenn for a NT throughout the games period since he has started I’ve seen teams double Kelly much more than Warren.
August 17th, 2009 at 9:51 pm
DOWN GOES FRAZIER!
DOWN GOES FRAZIER!
I wish Cosell was here to call the fight.
August 17th, 2009 at 9:52 pm
Brien I complete agree. The second drive looked alarmingly like we have seen here for years. But, they did play a bit better, the offense certainly looked alive, which gives the D something to play for. Guys played two series, like you said, I am not ready to write them off just yet.
August 17th, 2009 at 9:52 pm
The Raiders gave up 4.4 per carry against Dallas. Just like the last 6 years.
August 17th, 2009 at 9:52 pm
Warren isn’t supposed to be a NT. This is a 1 gap system, why would a coach ask him to 2gap??
August 17th, 2009 at 9:53 pm
Notice how Priest wont respond to someone who actually has the game recorded and can refer to it at any time.
The assertion that teams run reverses because they cant tun on a team is so beyond stupid its comical.
August 17th, 2009 at 9:54 pm
# KoolKell Says:
August 17th, 2009 at 9:49 pm
So the Raiders should be judged against scrubs, Brien?
********************
Kell, you got me all wrong here OG. The Raiders are a work in progress just like the team they will be playing Saturday. Dallas is in a Super Bowl or bust mode whereas we are just trying to be a competitive team again. Dallas scheme is installed and there is much more continuity there. But to harp so hard on the TD drive without Nnamdi in the game is just nuts. I noticed all their plays with to that direction.
August 17th, 2009 at 9:55 pm
# priesttj Says:
August 17th, 2009 at 9:52 pm
Warren isn’t supposed to be a NT. This is a 1 gap system, why would a coach ask him to 2gap??
******************************
Priest, I’m not sure about that. So you telling me we had two 2-gappers in the 2002 year?
August 17th, 2009 at 9:56 pm
BHP, someone has to be the space eater out of the base DTs right?
August 17th, 2009 at 9:58 pm
Dont we run a basic 4-3 defense?
August 17th, 2009 at 9:59 pm
Oak, I didn’t see him getting blown of the ball at all. I saw him get doubled and get no penetration but that’s why you have 4 Dlineman. If he’s getting doubled where are the other guy’s.
Warren seems to be the most attacked player in here because he does what the coaches are asking him to do.
Or because he’s not the most dominant player at his position in the league. He is as good a DT as we need IMO. And I firmly believe we can win an win big with him at DT. No question in my mind.
August 17th, 2009 at 10:00 pm
It’s preseason has long as they stay healthy and work on their problems it all good , we will know after the 1 gm vs sd where we stand.
GO RAIDERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
August 17th, 2009 at 10:01 pm
Priest,
Pray tell, why does the Raider run d rank at the bottom of the league every year?
August 17th, 2009 at 10:02 pm
I thought Kelly actually was adequate, and Warren did play better on the third series when Choice and Kitna came in. The defensive line, as a unit, HAS to play better for our team to be competitive out there.
August 17th, 2009 at 10:02 pm
Brien, what?? two 2gappers what is that a rap song?
No let me explain the 3/4 system is for 2gap NT
The 4/3 is for a 1-gap system you don’t use a NT at all.
Does that make sense?
August 17th, 2009 at 10:03 pm
BHP, I mean a 1-gap system with our big ass DTs? Well I guess in Seattle they worked that but their linemen were fleet of foot
August 17th, 2009 at 10:07 pm
# Brien the General Says:
August 17th, 2009 at 9:58 pm
Dont we run a basic 4-3 defense?
———————————————–
Since we run three deep in the secondary, I don’t think you would call it a basic 4-3. But since Urban Meyer had his National Champion Florida team running a similar defense, maybe it is more “futuristic” than some people here think.
August 17th, 2009 at 10:07 pm
Let me ask you guys: Did you think our DT’s controlled their gaps?
August 17th, 2009 at 10:08 pm
If Cable did pop him you’ve got to give Hanson credit for staying quiet about this to police.
Could’ve made life very difficult for Cable and the Raiders. Tommy could’ve had serious trouble with the law. A multi-game suspension could’ve been handed down. Gotta give Hanson props for doing what’s best for the Raiders.
August 17th, 2009 at 10:08 pm
Repost:
The Raiders gave up 4.4 per carry against Dallas. Just like the last 6 years.
August 17th, 2009 at 10:09 pm
Raider Ron, shutup! grown folks are talking.
Did anyone in here watch the MNF game with Gruden as commentator. He really broke it down very well. If you look at the NYG’s defense we run the same scheme as they do. If you look at their Dline there is no NT………period. Same as the Panthers no NT.
What you want are guy’s who command attention at DT while the DE’s wreak havoc. In the 3/4 the employ more players to do the same thing the NT, the two DE’s and the two OLB/DE’s 5 players and ins some cases it’s more effective.
August 17th, 2009 at 10:09 pm
No BHP it doesnt because traditional 4-3 system damn sure can use a two gap scheme. You mean to tell me with Sam Adams we or the ravens ran a one gap system?
August 17th, 2009 at 10:11 pm
# Oakglenn Says:
August 17th, 2009 at 10:07 pm
Let me ask you guys: Did you think our DT’s controlled their gaps?
********************
Not really
August 17th, 2009 at 10:11 pm
# Oakglenn Says:
August 17th, 2009 at 10:07 pm
# Brien the General Says:
August 17th, 2009 at 9:58 pm
Dont we run a basic 4-3 defense?
———————————————–
Since we run three deep in the secondary, I don’t think you would call it a basic 4-3. But since Urban Meyer had his National Champion Florida team running a similar defense, maybe it is more “futuristic” than some people here think.
**********************
Well I thought Al Davis runs a basic defense and its an old system from the 60s
August 17th, 2009 at 10:13 pm
# Brien the General Says:
August 17th, 2009 at 10:11 pm
# Oakglenn Says:
August 17th, 2009 at 10:07 pm
Let me ask you guys: Did you think our DT’s controlled their gaps?
********************
Not really
————————————–
Exactly. The 2nd and 3rd teamers actually did well. Sands and Joseph were better out there, but then again they are playing against scrubs.
August 17th, 2009 at 10:13 pm
BlackHolePriest
Why don’t you answer Ron’s question, why pray tell does the Raider Run D rank in the bottom of the league every year?
August 17th, 2009 at 10:14 pm
Dont get me wrong BHP I know you can run a one gap system in a 4-3 but to say a 4-3 doesnt run a 2 gap is wrong. I’m unsure as it if do or not since we have had Grady Jackson,Sam Adams,Chester and even Terdell Sands as the big DTs. Also forgot whenever we would switch from a 3-4 to 4-3 Ted Washington was the big DT
August 17th, 2009 at 10:14 pm
# priesttj Says:
August 17th, 2009 at 10:09 pm
Raider Ron, shutup! grown folks are talking.
Did anyone in here watch the MNF game with Gruden as commentator. He really broke it down very well. If you look at the NYG’s defense we run the same scheme as they do. If you look at their Dline there is no NT………period. Same as the Panthers no NT.
What you want are guy’s who command attention at DT while the DE’s wreak havoc. In the 3/4 the employ more players to do the same thing the NT, the two DE’s and the two OLB/DE’s 5 players and ins some cases it’s more effective.
^^^^^^The old stubborn man should have drafted Brace, Sintim or E Brown in that 2nd round.
I wanted E Brown badly….but no…the old stubborn man has to be weird….
August 17th, 2009 at 10:15 pm
# Brien the General Says:
August 17th, 2009 at 10:11 pm
# Oakglenn Says:
August 17th, 2009 at 10:07 pm
# Brien the General Says:
August 17th, 2009 at 9:58 pm
Dont we run a basic 4-3 defense?
———————————————–
Since we run three deep in the secondary, I don’t think you would call it a basic 4-3. But since Urban Meyer had his National Champion Florida team running a similar defense, maybe it is more “futuristic” than some people here think.
**********************
Well I thought Al Davis runs a basic defense and its an old system from the 60s
—————————————————–
Same thing with the 2 Deep. That is nothing more than the 2 deep zone that Chuck Knoll ran in the 60’s and early 70’s. What made that defense so spectacular was the great Steeler defensive lines.
August 17th, 2009 at 10:16 pm
Oakglenn, Sands disappoints me. I really wanted him to start because I think Warren is only a good pass rusher. Sad to say it aint going down
August 17th, 2009 at 10:16 pm
Yeah I damn sure would have took Ron Brace DK! You got it
August 17th, 2009 at 10:16 pm
# KoolKell Says:
August 17th, 2009 at 10:13 pm
BlackHolePriest
Why don’t you answer Ron’s question, why pray tell does the Raider Run D rank in the bottom of the league every year?
———————————————–
We’ve answered that question in here a hundred thousand times. If you haven’t gotten it by now, you never will.
August 17th, 2009 at 10:17 pm
Oak, to be honest no we couyld’ve played much better gap control, but as for one player, Warren did as god a jpob as the caches couls’ve expected. When we read cable’s comments concerning pad level he’s right we did a very average job at it. But t say we got shoved around is not accurate at all.
And please guy’s we don’t use a NT we haven’t in many years. There are some 4 man lines that use it they call the RDE the ‘open end’. It essential gives a 3 man front disguised as a 4 man front. It’s really a 3/4.
August 17th, 2009 at 10:17 pm
Same thing with the 2 Deep. That is nothing more than the 2 deep zone that Chuck Knoll ran in the 60’s and early 70’s. What made that defense so spectacular was the great Steeler defensive lines.
*****************************
Yeah but also the fact that during those days you could play defense like a man unlike these pu$$y ass rules we have now
August 17th, 2009 at 10:18 pm
Again with this 1-gap, 2-gap debate. How about the makeagoddamnplayinthebackfieldonceinabluemoon gap?
August 17th, 2009 at 10:18 pm
BHP, how many years?
August 17th, 2009 at 10:19 pm
Then why did the Raiders give up 4.4 yds per carry?
August 17th, 2009 at 10:20 pm
# vegas raider Says:
August 17th, 2009 at 10:18 pm
Again with this 1-gap, 2-gap debate. How about the makeagoddamnplayinthebackfieldonceinabluemoon gap?
********************
Well Vegas, nonetheless we need a guy who can effectively eat up space and handle two blockers. So we are either asking Tommy Kelly or Gerard Warren to do that? This is troubling
August 17th, 2009 at 10:21 pm
# Brien the General Says:
August 17th, 2009 at 10:16 pm
Oakglenn, Sands disappoints me. I really wanted him to start because I think Warren is only a good pass rusher. Sad to say it aint going down
———————————————-
Sands disappoints everyone. Once the scrubs entered, Sands played well. Hence one of the reasons Dallas did nothing, even with Kitna in there. It will be interesting to see what Sands does against first teamers. Hopefully something.
August 17th, 2009 at 10:21 pm
#105, post of the day!!
August 17th, 2009 at 10:22 pm
Brien, Chester did play a 2gap NT type system. And he hated it, thought it was the stupidest thing they . were doing on defense.I know we talked about it many times. When they finally let him play 1-gap he was dominant. But the guy that made him play 2gap got fired.
August 17th, 2009 at 10:27 pm
So BHP, we are relying on two UTs(meaning two guys that cant shed blocks from the double team) as our starting DTs? We are in trouble
August 17th, 2009 at 10:29 pm
The Raiders were ranked last in the league in Run Defense last year, the year before and the year before, and the year before.
They give up 4.4yds on the ground Saturday……..but Warren did his job?????
August 17th, 2009 at 10:31 pm
Warren at 320 lbs has NT size in a 4-3, he just has to play a bit better.
August 17th, 2009 at 10:32 pm
Look sign Hollis Thomas and get this over with. He is a much better option than Warren because he can play the run. It makes zero sense to have your base DTs really only play the pass above average and play the run poorly. This wont work
August 17th, 2009 at 10:33 pm
Is Terdell Sands a 1 gapper too?
August 17th, 2009 at 10:34 pm
Mistabrown…..is that ebonics for chocolate rain?
August 17th, 2009 at 10:35 pm
Brien, please listen to me it doesn’t mean that at all. Everything comes down to talent, you always coach to your talent. If we have a mismatch we can exploit it. We did in many games last year.
It all comes down to who you are playing as to what you ask players to do. Go back and look at times TK is playing LDT instead of RDT. At times we had Joseph at LDT next RDT depending on what look they want tpo present.
Almost every DT we had drew doubles. I saw many times last year when Warren beat doubles it was just the team we were playing. To say we don’t have a DT that can beat doubles is like saying Iverson can’t dunk on anyone. He might not dunk on Shaq but I gaurantee you he can and will dunk on Fisher.
It’s all about the matchups, There are only so many great Olines most he can and will beat……….period
August 17th, 2009 at 10:36 pm
Post # 25 is saying exactly what I have been complaining about in here all week. Dallas moved the ball at will against us when they had to. (second drive first quarter)
Post #27 is pretty dead on as well. I have been blogging on PFT and they hate the Raiders and are very open about their hatred for us but yet they don’t write about our team as angrily and negatively as Jerry does.
Check it out I am not lying.
August 17th, 2009 at 10:36 pm
I thought Hollis Thomas was signed by the Rams a couple of weeks ago.
August 17th, 2009 at 10:38 pm
He has the size because he is 330 lbs yeah but he just shoots the gap only. Remember when he came here in 2007 he played behind Sapp and played well at the UT position. Belichek said he thought Kelly was the best UT out there, well then what position name does the other DT hold? I’m lost, help me
August 17th, 2009 at 10:38 pm
Then why were the Raiders last in the league in Run Defense?????
August 17th, 2009 at 10:39 pm
# Oakglenn Says:
August 17th, 2009 at 10:36 pm
I thought Hollis Thomas was signed by the Rams a couple of weeks ago.
***************
Oh damn, well let’s pray a DT vet gets the axe because our run defense will suffer again but I expect more leads by the offense
August 17th, 2009 at 10:41 pm
The Whiners offensive line man handled the weak Bunco defensive line on Saturday. I think after the next preseason game, we’ll have a better idea of how our defensive line starters are playing.
August 17th, 2009 at 10:41 pm
Priesttj Says:
August 17th, 2009 at 10:35 pm
” every DT we had drew doubles. I saw many times last year when Warren beat doubles it was just the team we were playing. To say we don’t have a DT that can beat doubles is like saying Iverson can’t dunk on anyone. He might not dunk on Shaq but I gaurantee you he can and will dunk on Fisher.
It’s all about the matchups, There are only so many great Olines most he can and will beat……….period”
———————-
Then why were we last in the NFL for Run Defense?
August 17th, 2009 at 10:42 pm
# priesttj Says:
August 17th, 2009 at 10:35 pm
Brien, please listen to me it doesn’t mean that at all. Everything comes down to talent, you always coach to your talent. If we have a mismatch we can exploit it. We did in many games last year.
It all comes down to who you are playing as to what you ask players to do. Go back and look at times TK is playing LDT instead of RDT. At times we had Joseph at LDT next RDT depending on what look they want tpo present.
Almost every DT we had drew doubles. I saw many times last year when Warren beat doubles it was just the team we were playing. To say we don’t have a DT that can beat doubles is like saying Iverson can’t dunk on anyone. He might not dunk on Shaq but I gaurantee you he can and will dunk on Fisher.
It’s all about the matchups, There are only so many great Olines most he can and will beat……….period
**********************
Well then who is the DT who is responsible for eating space and shedding blocks vs the LG and C?
August 17th, 2009 at 10:43 pm
# Oakglenn Says:
August 17th, 2009 at 10:41 pm
The Whiners offensive line man handled the weak Bunco defensive line on Saturday. I think after the next preseason game, we’ll have a better idea of how our defensive line starters are playing.
****************
Manhandle? Glenn then why did Hill get sacked twice on the first drive? I personally didnt see a dominant performance by the 49er oline at all. It was average
August 17th, 2009 at 10:44 pm
Brien the General Says:
August 17th, 2009 at 10:38 pm
He has the size because he is 330 lbs yeah but he just shoots the gap only.
——————————————————
Warren is kind of a funny guy. Sometimes he plays really really well, sometimes he doesn’t show up. Like I said, he was acting in pregame like he didn;t want to be there. Hey, I understand, it’s preseason. But, still show the fook up Warren! You’re paycheck shows up.
August 17th, 2009 at 10:46 pm
Brien, I was watching that game with 30 other people with the sound down, so I will defer to you on the Whiners. I am doing this from memory, but I thought they were just blowing Denver off the ball with their ones.
August 17th, 2009 at 10:48 pm
Glenn what will be interesting is the Vernon Davis vs Tyvon Branch matchup. Let’s see what the young man can do for a half against big mouth Vernon.
August 17th, 2009 at 10:48 pm
Same players, same system, same 4.4 yd per carry defense.
August 17th, 2009 at 10:53 pm
Oak, man o’ man what was he doing falling asleep? haha!!
August 17th, 2009 at 10:54 pm
Kell what system do we run?
August 17th, 2009 at 10:56 pm
Its just too bad Sands is stinking it up. If he played like his 2006 self the Raiders dline would be just fine IMO. A wish is a wish is a wish is a wish
August 17th, 2009 at 10:56 pm
Oak, but it is very true soemtimes Warren will make you think he’s second teir DT not All-Pro but probowl worthy and then he’ll go up against a lesser guy and play average.
That really is the truth about Warren he can frustrate you with some great play and then not so great.
August 17th, 2009 at 10:58 pm
4-3, Man in the secondary. UT & NT
One deep safety.
But Brien, I’m no coach, but I’ve been watching them 45 years.
August 17th, 2009 at 11:00 pm
If Brown can beat out Morrisson at the MLB position and Shaughnessy starts at RDE over Scott, we should be in better shape on defense.
Unfortunately, it is true that with Nnamdi in our run defense is exponentially better. I say unfortunately, because it should not be the cornerbacks primary responsibility to stop the run but it is what it is.
Morrisson sucks at MLB straight up, he’s had how many years to get it right by now?
Trevor Scott is a pass rusher, not a run stopper.
August 17th, 2009 at 11:01 pm
A couple of things about that defense: as a defender you have to deliver the blow, don’t let the offensive guys hit you. Our guys were taking a few hits out there. When they were the ones hitting, they did pretty well.
August 17th, 2009 at 11:01 pm
Brien, to answer your question about the guy who normally has the respnsiblity to attack the A-gap and free-up TK is Warren. What we really want ot see is Kelly start to make hame changing plays if we’regoing to be successful. ur system is just like the Giants and Cardinals, Kelly needs to be our #90 on the Cards. Or Sapp when with Tampa. He needs to disrupt and destroy. Tommy Kelly is the key to this defense.
August 17th, 2009 at 11:02 pm
Warren frustrates the sh** out of everyone, cause he CAN play at a very high level. I think he frustrated Shanahan as well.
August 17th, 2009 at 11:04 pm
Brien, we absolutely HAVE to have that fantastic safety back there. Look at the league championship teams: Adrian Wilson, Polomalu, Dawkins, Ed Reed. We need Branch or Huff to emerge. And if neither of them do, we need Mitchell to emerge next year.
August 17th, 2009 at 11:08 pm
Its crazy to say this but overall the offense worriesa me less than the defense. The FS,MLB,SLB,NT and apparently now the RDE.
I still want scott as the RDE. People asking for Shaugnessy are crazy. You need a pass rusher at RDE. We havent had a good one since 2000
August 17th, 2009 at 11:09 pm
I kind of agree with you. I think the offense is going to play well. One guy that I think has some real potential is Slade Norris. He looked pretty good out there.
August 17th, 2009 at 11:10 pm
Well Priest, I can see the Tommy Kelly thing but I believe a true run stuffer in the middle either at MLB or NT is what this defense needs. I saw too many times last year Kelly getting doubled even in the run game.
August 17th, 2009 at 11:10 pm
Slade at SLB? I think really t he loser of the kirk/ricky battle moves to SLB. Jon Alston is a special teams guy
August 17th, 2009 at 11:12 pm
Priest you’re exactly right about Kelly. The defense is designed for him to be a wrecking ball out there.
August 17th, 2009 at 11:13 pm
Well Oakglenn maybe the supposed pressure we will bring this year might free kelly up to get in on some more big plays.
August 17th, 2009 at 11:14 pm
I don’t think Norris is quite ready, but when he was out there against Dallas, he played well. Plus, he was an excellent pass rusher in the Pac 10 last year. He has the tendency to do everything well. He might be a real player.
August 17th, 2009 at 11:14 pm
Oak, post#139 is the premise of the 1-gap system to attack take the fight to them, When you’re playing 2-gap you’re essentially catching the block when you 1-gap you take on one shoulder and penetrate your gap. Then the LBers fill those open gaps. When played properly it is very effective.
2-gap is not aggressive approach that’s why most teams stick with 4/3 it is more aggressive. The 3/4 employs 5 players to do the same job But based on your talent it might be the better choice for that team.
August 17th, 2009 at 11:15 pm
what was funny was on the LB blitz that Ricky Brown got the sack, Sands stunted and took the center with him, Brown shot the gap and guard was too late to pick him up. Down goes Shitna. But Sands actually made that play.
August 17th, 2009 at 11:17 pm
#150 is exactly right. Notice how when our defense takes the game to the offense, they succeed much more. On the 2nd Dallas possession, they took the game to us. I agree with you on that reverse Dallas ran. Hey, why not throw in a flea flicker on the 2nd possession of the preseason??
August 17th, 2009 at 11:17 pm
So Priest we were doing a one gap under Bresnahan from 2000 to 2003?
August 17th, 2009 at 11:19 pm
Oak and BHP, it is amazing how harsh people are on the guys about that TD drive when Dallas’ has a very damn good oline. Nnamdi was in on the first series and they were 3 and done. He wasnt in the next series. Its confusing how no one saw that
August 17th, 2009 at 11:20 pm
# Oakglenn Says:
August 17th, 2009 at 11:15 pm
what was funny was on the LB blitz that Ricky Brown got the sack, Sands stunted and took the center with him, Brown shot the gap and guard was too late to pick him up. Down goes Shitna. But Sands actually made that play.
************
I remember that play. Can Sands please od this more so Warren doesnt start?
August 17th, 2009 at 11:21 pm
do*
August 17th, 2009 at 11:28 pm
Brien, you’d think we beat the Detroit Lions. Dallas is as talented a team as there is in this league from top to bottom. I expected us to get whipped………..period and I really didn’t watch the game until two days later because of the way fans were just blasting the Raiders over basically TWO plays. When we rushed 3 and the run up the gut for 9 yards.
I looked at the score and the stats and decided to watch the game with a critical eye. And was shocked by the thoroughness of that butt kicking. Dallas runs the ball right at you and they didn’t against us. When they tried they got stuffed except for two occasions.
Don’t comment KK I know it went right over your head. I was talking about running inside our OT’s hopefully that helps.
August 17th, 2009 at 11:28 pm
Well Brien, I think Raider fan sees teams just coming down the field and executing, and all of a sudden its, “Same Old Raider D” syndrome, and they start panicking. Other than that one drive, (and the defense actually stiffened up later in that drive), the D played very well. And that was after Jam came out of the game and Gradkowski went in for us, and Romo went out and shitna went in for them. Shitna has been a pro bowl Q, so it should have been advantage them, but our players played pretty well all things considered.
August 17th, 2009 at 11:30 pm
I’m sorry inside their OT’s and directly at our strength.
August 17th, 2009 at 11:32 pm
I like the way Pears played at RT I think if “Mop Handle” cant hold it together this guy could be huge for us this year.
August 17th, 2009 at 11:34 pm
Oak, thank you!!! that’s all I’ve been saying we played well against one of the best…..period
With Gradkowsky(whatever his name is) and Frye, no less. Dallas went home second guessing themselves trustme. I would hate to be the next opponent of the Cowboy’s.
August 17th, 2009 at 11:35 pm
Does Dallas score a TD with Asomugha in the game? Does Roy Williams and Jason Witten catch on Nnamdi? That is up in the air. It seemed they picked on Routt cuz the best CB in the league wasnt around. Trust me that made a difference when he wasnt in there
August 17th, 2009 at 11:36 pm
# Silver-n-Black666 Says:
August 17th, 2009 at 11:32 pm
I like the way Pears played at RT I think if “Mop Handle” cant hold it together this guy could be huge for us this year.
*********************
Cornell Green sucks. And its a shame I say this but he is a distant relative of mine and I know he has gotta go
August 17th, 2009 at 11:44 pm
Turd Sands
Stanford Routt
Mop handle
These are people I could do without!
August 17th, 2009 at 11:56 pm
Routt had a bad game, is he a bad corner??
Can we find better depth at DT than Sands?
Mop Handle has fought off all comers, how ’bout we let someone beat him out first?
August 18th, 2009 at 12:12 am
The Raiders are keeping it tight lipped because Cable will get suspended if Goodell finds out it’s true.
August 18th, 2009 at 12:22 am
crister Says:
August 17th, 2009 at 8:59 pm
all joking aside, if hanson did get his jaw broken by cable, then some sort of action needs to be taken on hansons behalf. really, how can you get your jaws cracked by your boss/superior and have no realistic means or recourse to exact justice?
……
Because the Oakland Raiders honestly believe they’re their own government, like an Indian reservation. The league’s going to investigate it and if they find out a coach struck anyone, he’ll be suspended just like a player. It won’t matter if we lose Cable to a suspension, anyway. It’s not like he’s really the coach.
August 18th, 2009 at 1:15 am
Maybe Hanson swung first and there’s witnesses.
August 18th, 2009 at 1:50 am
Earl, just admit things are chaotic and nothing has changed in Oakland. How long can you stay in denial?
August 18th, 2009 at 3:00 am
Denver looks really good! That call Kyle Orton has a pea shooter for an arm and the field vision of a Tuiasasopo! His range is about 20 yards. We should sweep Denver this year.
San Diego had old man run for the first time since he entered to the league (obviously to see if he has anything left). I will bet he is done by mid season.
K.C. was atrocious. They do not have the “system” in K.C. that they have in N.E. So they are certainly sweep-able.
The Raiders are going to be in first or second place this season. That is not such a stretch.
TRM, Things are fine in Oakland. What the big deal. The dude fell off his chair and hit his jaw against the edge of his desk and fractured his jaw. The coach accidently bumped him as he was racing to take a leak and was in a hurry. I’m soo sorry. It was an accident. Media sensationalism at it predictable -est. End of story!.
August 18th, 2009 at 3:08 am
Good Morning NATION!!!
August 18th, 2009 at 3:10 am
KoolKell Says:
August 17th, 2009 at 10:08 pm
Repost:
The Raiders gave up 4.4 per carry against Dallas. Just like the last 6 years.
*******************************************************
Hard 2 argue with that logic,imo
August 18th, 2009 at 3:14 am
We all know ball-control smash-mouth rushing attack will usually win the game.Man when you give up 4.4 a pop,your defence will wilt.Seen it mant times in the Air-Coryell era,Fouts would drive the team to a TD in like 23 seconds,then the other team would methodically drive down the field.Evev if other team didnt this time,by the 4th the charger defence was cooked.Ball control,smash-mouth has always worked and prolly always will,imo
August 18th, 2009 at 3:15 am
didnt SCORE sorry
August 18th, 2009 at 3:30 am
you just cant have a defence that gives up 4.4 yards a pop.You just cant.THIS is where all are problems stem from,imo
August 18th, 2009 at 3:31 am
* our
August 18th, 2009 at 3:36 am
For what it’s worth, ESPN’s Mark Schlereth said he talked to Cable and was told, “nothing happened.”
=================================
Its not worht ****. Cable would more likely be fined for saying anything of consequence to that do-uce bag Schlereth. He s a card carrying Raider hater. And **** ESPN too…
IN HOUSE.
Thats how it’ll be handled. **** all y’all tryin to blow this **** all out of proportion.
Some Ahole got outa line and got his reset button pushed.
The world would be a better place if this happend more often and men took it like a ****ing man instead of whining to their lawyers for something they probably deserved.
August 18th, 2009 at 3:39 am
I TOTALLY AGREE Nnamdi 21
got his “reset button” pushed.I like it!!!
August 18th, 2009 at 3:41 am
I may be naive but isnt it a CODE of silence??? What is a “cone” of silence??? Reminds me of SNL cone-heads
August 18th, 2009 at 5:21 am
What’s cracking Raiderlites!!! Randy Hansons Face I presume? Ha, thanks Jerry for the update but I really wish you would have given us a little bit more on what really matters, that’s what’s happening in camp. Everyone is talking about this crap. No one talks about us unless we have something crazy going on, or to bash the organization bspn cronies
August 18th, 2009 at 5:32 am
haha
August 18th, 2009 at 5:34 am
Yeah I was thinking the same thing 4eva , a cone of silence never hear of that ever. If Raiders are successful I hope he punches more people I just wanna win and maybe the D will think maybe we should be knocking fools out!
August 18th, 2009 at 5:39 am
And bear in mind this very optimistic thinking what if by the Offense finally scoring and controlling the clock this gives the D way more rest , it’s hard stopping someone than 3 plays later you’re right back on the field. Man all Dmac needs is a sliver of daylight and he is through the hole.
August 18th, 2009 at 5:51 am
Good Morning Nation!!!
4eva, NMF,Dirty,Nnamdi…what’s up fellas?!
August 18th, 2009 at 5:55 am
I guess it’s time 2 purchase boxing gloves!!! =)
August 18th, 2009 at 5:56 am
I agree NMF…Dmac IS the man and his time has come,imo
August 18th, 2009 at 6:04 am
Season only a couple weeks away and college football starts too oh yeah , only a month till my Bulldogs get killed by Boise again.
GO RAIDERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!
August 18th, 2009 at 6:04 am
Hahaha!!!! Pete, that is funny, but true!
August 18th, 2009 at 6:12 am
good morning AM crew.
it’s pretty cool to have a head coach like Tommy Gunn, eh?
August 18th, 2009 at 6:13 am
GOOD MORNING SPORT’S FAN’S ,4EVA,HWNDR, NOMOREFARGAS,I WILL BE LETTING MY AGE SHOW HERE BUT.. THE CONE OF SILENCE IS AN OLD COMEDY BIT FROM ” GET SMART” WHEN AGENT 99 AND THE CHIEF HAD SOMETHING TOP SECRET TO SAY TO EACH OTHER, A BIG PLASTIC CONE WOULD COME DOWN OVER THEM, THUS THE CONE OF SILENCE, OF COURSE NO ONE, NOT EVEN THE AUDIENCE COULD HERE WHAT THEY WERE SAYING..GUESSING JERRY WAS REFERRING TO THAT 4EVA,,
August 18th, 2009 at 6:16 am
It was actually agent 86. 99 was his wife. I loved how they had to use the cards, and Chief, just ended up getting pissed. I wonder if YOUTUBE has that stuff up.
We will see how the NINERS are soon
GO POSTAL on their butts
August 18th, 2009 at 6:16 am
Good Morning Rockstar, Pete, 4eva…
Damn Dirt Lot, that went way back. I even forgot about that one…back then, that was one of the funniest shows out there!
Gabby, get the boys some coffee!
August 18th, 2009 at 6:16 am
Adam Schefter & Mark Schlereth both said that the Raiders are currently the 2nd best team in the AFC West and that they would rally around this distraction, instead of let it rip the team apart. they said the Raiders are carrying on the label of being aggressive – all they need to do now is go deep.
I’m surprised we got such a fair assessment from self professed donk lovers! Even they know the donkeys are a train wreck … LOL
August 18th, 2009 at 6:17 am
You know what…maybe off subject here, but is that why Toto wrote that song, “99″?
August 18th, 2009 at 6:18 am
thanks for the coffee Hwnrdr.
how about some pecan pie too? that cool?
I got the tip…
August 18th, 2009 at 6:22 am
agent 99 was hot…
August 18th, 2009 at 6:22 am
Sure…why not?
I’m actually surprised that Schefter and Schlereth had said that…Wow! Is the world coming to an end? Or is it time for the Raiders to retake what is rightfully theres?!!! I say the latter…
August 18th, 2009 at 6:24 am
THANKS NCRAIDERFAN, MAXWELL SMART-AGENT 86 AND THAT LONG LEGGED BARBRA FELDON AS AGENT 99. WAY WAY BACK….
August 18th, 2009 at 6:28 am
maybe Terdell Sands will punch Phillip Rivers on Week 1?
good example Cable guy!
August 18th, 2009 at 6:29 am
Chillin hnwdr just waiting for the next game against the whiners
August 18th, 2009 at 6:36 am
maybe Terdell Sands will punch Phillip Rivers on Week 1?
He better get to him and then punch him…did you see that he was actually chasing the runner Thursday night?
Chillin hnwdr just waiting for the next game against the whiners
I hear ya…the rivalry at work laready has begun!!!
August 18th, 2009 at 6:36 am
thankx Dirt-Lot I 4got all about that one but truth be told I used 2 watch Get-Smart all the time back in the day.It used 2 come on after Laugh-In
August 18th, 2009 at 6:37 am
Morning NATION!!!
Is it bad for me to like this so much its like the little devil dude on my shoulder saying hit that punk again while the other little dude on my other shoulder is like we shouldnt punch another coach this could look bad…….I kinda like the attitude!!!!
August 18th, 2009 at 6:39 am
TO BAD NO ONE GAVE KIFFIN A RIGHT-CROSS,TO SHORT I GUESS..
August 18th, 2009 at 6:41 am
I don’t sands to puch rivers, rather id like to see him do likee Tony the goose saragusa did to Rich Gannon, lay that fat gut on his rib cage and put him oout for the season!!!!!!
August 18th, 2009 at 6:41 am
Cable should be fired. He is the face of an organization known for its class and exemplar moral behavior. Cable and Al Davis are role models for children, and the Raiders should not tolerate this kind of behavior. I say fire Cable and bring in Barry Switzer.
August 18th, 2009 at 6:42 am
Its not bad OAKlifer.Its like what do you tell someone with 2 black-eyes??? Nothing they havent heard twice B4
August 18th, 2009 at 6:44 am
or how about Woody Hayes,Albert =)
August 18th, 2009 at 6:45 am
Isn’t Woody Hayes dead? Even so, I guess a dead man could probably coach just as well as Cable.
August 18th, 2009 at 6:46 am
LOL 4eva!!!
August 18th, 2009 at 6:51 am
Hey maybe Hanson pulled his pants down and Cable punched him! Ok, bad joke…Sorry Singletary….haha!
August 18th, 2009 at 6:51 am
=)
August 18th, 2009 at 6:51 am
It’s a very simple explanation, actually: Cable is an “old school” Raiders guy and Hanson didn’t fully understand the term “smashmouth football” … coach was just enlightening him on the finer points of tough football and tough love. He was probably also testing to see if he was dealing with one of the Hanson brothers from the movie “Slapshot” or one of the gay boy-band Hansons!
August 18th, 2009 at 6:52 am
“punched” him where Hwnrdr??? lol
August 18th, 2009 at 6:53 am
Haha! I won’t go there, 4eva!
August 18th, 2009 at 6:55 am
Raidertbone, I think Hanson was meddling on the behalf of Davis. Cable is already sick of Davis. Cable will probably be fired if the team doesn’t win 2 of its first 4 games.
August 18th, 2009 at 6:56 am
Randy Hanson might be a biggest Raider fan ever, but the dude is a punk. He should be greatful for a job. He shouldn’t be running his mouth to coaches above him.
Cable knows from Lane’s example not to lobby for other coaches to be fired, especially ones hand picked by Al himself … Cable took care of the matter internally and knocked his friggin’ block off
what happened to the good ole days without lawsuits? people that get punched and try to sue somebody are wimps – seriously. If Hanson was acting like a little “female dog” he deserved a swift right hook from Cable or any other asst coach. He should be ready to step up, rather than spouting off empty words and then backing down like a sissy.
August 18th, 2009 at 6:57 am
Can’t believe I didn’t know a Get Smart nod my bad great show.
August 18th, 2009 at 6:58 am
MMMMMMMM-Bop!!
August 18th, 2009 at 7:01 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
Adam Schefter & Mark Schlereth both said that the Raiders are currently the 2nd best team in the AFC West I’m surprised we got such a fair assessment from self professed donk lovers! Even they know the donkeys are a train wreck … LOL
—————
Things have changed, since Shanny left (he got fired, fired, fired! Always love hearing that)they have no loyality. besides they want to appear to be right once in awhile. Still it’s strange to see the midget & the guy who crapped his pants during a game side with the Raiders under any circumstances.
August 18th, 2009 at 7:05 am
what happened to the good ole days without lawsuits?
I totally agree! That is why there are a lot of “female dogs” out there! “John Goodman” finally knocked out “Roseanne” after all these years!!!
August 18th, 2009 at 7:05 am
Cable should be fired? Cmon u kidding me?!?!?, good one
August 18th, 2009 at 7:09 am
# hwnrdr Says:
August 18th, 2009 at 6:17 am
You know what…maybe off subject here, but is that why Toto wrote that song, “99″?
______________________________
Interestingly enough, the song “99″ was written as a tribute to the George Lucas sci-fi movie “THX 1138″ — who knew?
August 18th, 2009 at 7:09 am
LOL @ Hwnrdr.
now you know I don’t condone abusing women, but are Rosanne, Rosie O’Donnell, Kirstie Alley & Ellen Degenerous really considered women ???
August 18th, 2009 at 7:10 am
Toto wrote that song, “99″?
***
Toto also had that song “Africa”
that was hot!
haha
August 18th, 2009 at 7:11 am
Newsflash:
The “personal business” that Jeff Garcia had to tend to was a busted lip that he sustained during the first Raider practices. Cable hit him upside the head because he was being a candy ass.
August 18th, 2009 at 7:15 am
The story from the Raiders (insider) IS hANSON SAID SOMETHING derogitory to/about Marshall so Cable grabbed his chair & dumped him on the floor. I doubt if that could be called assault. Besides Hanson has to press charges for the police to do anything. Goodell can sit on a sharp stick if no witnesses talk. Fired? Gimme a break.
August 18th, 2009 at 7:19 am
Like I said last night if you aren’t used to the Raiders with a side of crazy you haven’t been a fan long.
August 18th, 2009 at 7:19 am
catch u fellers later. work to do
August 18th, 2009 at 7:20 am
What do you get when you mix PMS with GPS?
A crazy bitch who will find you
————————-
Morning Raider Nation!!
August 18th, 2009 at 7:23 am
Later Rockstar!!!
Thats a good 1 Exla =)
August 18th, 2009 at 7:25 am
Later Double R!!!!
August 18th, 2009 at 7:26 am
The Cable/Hanson bout was like Punch and Judy. Two puppets knocking the stuffing out of each other.
August 18th, 2009 at 7:27 am
So Exla:
Who do you think the crazy b#$%& is in this whole “Fall-Out-Of-Chair”gate situation?
August 18th, 2009 at 7:32 am
Hanson smarted off to another coach probably while sitting in a swivel office type chair and Cable got pissed and jacked up the chair and Hanson got hurt. Probably not what Cable intended.
August 18th, 2009 at 7:36 am
Isn’t it funny that the San Francisco reporter behind this whole maelstrom is named “Gay”?
August 18th, 2009 at 7:38 am
Lmfao!!!! #224 RR your crazy man!!!! Yeah those butch wo-men can pass for a man any day
August 18th, 2009 at 7:38 am
For once:
BSPN’s version of the Cable/Hanson incident actually seems a more logical story as to what might have occured at Raider HC. I can see Cable tossing a chair, and Hanson flitching hard enough to hurt himself.
Just hard to believe Cable would haul of and clock the guy…
August 18th, 2009 at 7:42 am
I agree with AZ –
Cable would be foolish to cold-cock a guy during the new Roger Goodell regime. I can see him dumping a candy ass out of his chair, though … or maybe making Hanson suit up in an “Oklahoma drill”, versus Mike Mitchell.
August 18th, 2009 at 7:43 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AhnIKKUXjcM
LOL
we RULE THE WORLD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
August 18th, 2009 at 7:49 am
The CONE of silence is most likely something that Al cranks up people’s rectum to make them keep their mouths shut.
August 18th, 2009 at 7:58 am
Press Conference Question to Hanson:
Do you have Cable?
A: Yeah, I just got it.
Q: How much did it cost?
A: You’d be amazed. The special one-time offer literally knocked me off my chair!
August 18th, 2009 at 7:59 am
FUKK YEAH OAKlifer…
Thats MY FUKKIN OAKLAND RAIDERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Let’s bust some muther’s UP NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
That sh!t makes me PROUD 2B a RAAAAAAAAAIDEEEEEEEERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
August 18th, 2009 at 8:00 am
Man I’M PUMPED
Thankx Again OAKlifer!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
August 18th, 2009 at 8:05 am
Rellik30 –
A very close friend of mine is alive because of Medicare. This year he made too much money to qualify. Now he has a pre-existing condition which disqualifies him from most health plans – where he is not disqualified it is too expensive for him to afford. True story.
A four hour wait in an emergency room is not terrible — did you make an appointment at DMV??
Let’s be honest, the postal service works great for what it is. Sure if you have the money want to get something there overnight you use FedEx, but
Mailing a letter across the country in a matter of days for 42cents is a pretty damn good deal.
Last point, no one is talking about forcing you out of your comfortable corporate for profit health plan. Only creating a plan for those who can’t afford it or lose it. Here’s to hoping you don’t get sick lose your job and lose your ability to afford COBRA.
To everyone who wants to bash me for this post —
I’m not in to talking other than football on football sites, but this rhetoric needs to be responded to. Too many rants, not enough dialog.
August 18th, 2009 at 8:06 am
BSPN, made it sound as if Hanson had choice words for his boss and DC John Marshall and Cable was furious about it. Reminds me of a time in high school when I called my mom a b*tch. I took the roll of Hanson, my mother Coach Marshall and my father of coarse Tom Cable LOL. My Pops kicked me in the hip and launched me about 3 feet up the hallway wall LOL. Needless to say I never swore to my mother again, so hopefully Hanson understands his place now. Though he is/or was a valued family member, ya just don’t go popping off to the powers at be…. At least not while the man of the house is in ear shot.
August 18th, 2009 at 8:07 am
# OAKlifer Says:
August 18th, 2009 at 7:43 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AhnIKKUXjcM
LOL
we RULE THE WORLD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
_________________________________-
Us against the world — I love it!!
August 18th, 2009 at 8:10 am
Right on, AZ!
If Hanson doesn’t want to get his ass kicked, he should engage brain before he engages mouth. Hey, even the Raider players get it — “Cable Bumaye!”
August 18th, 2009 at 8:11 am
Well said blackbagonia.
August 18th, 2009 at 8:12 am
Nice post Blackbagonia =)
August 18th, 2009 at 8:17 am
yupp YUP 4eva
August 18th, 2009 at 8:17 am
# blackbagonia Says:
August 18th, 2009 at 8:05 am
Rellik30 –
A very close friend of mine is alive because of Medicare. This year he made too much money to qualify. Now he has a pre-existing condition which disqualifies him from most health plans – where he is not disqualified it is too expensive for him to afford. True story.
A four hour wait in an emergency room is not terrible — did you make an appointment at DMV??
Let’s be honest, the postal service works great for what it is. Sure if you have the money want to get something there overnight you use FedEx, but
Mailing a letter across the country in a matter of days for 42cents is a pretty damn good deal.
Last point, no one is talking about forcing you out of your comfortable corporate for profit health plan. Only creating a plan for those who can’t afford it or lose it. Here’s to hoping you don’t get sick lose your job and lose your ability to afford COBRA.
To everyone who wants to bash me for this post —
I’m not in to talking other than football on football sites, but this rhetoric needs to be responded to. Too many rants, not enough dialog.
____________________________________
Great post … unfortunately, too many lame a#$%& in Congress more worried about re-election than long-term health impacts on the general public!
August 18th, 2009 at 8:20 am
Breaking news on bspn…Favre flying 2 Minnesota 2 sign contract with Vikings
August 18th, 2009 at 8:21 am
its not lame-asses in congress tbone its the publicans.Oh yeah same thing
August 18th, 2009 at 8:24 am
I wish Cable would have just done some hazing, like taped Hanson to the goalpost and had Russell throw some fastballs at his twig & berries. test his accuracy that way, you see? It’s just practice – part of training camp… hard knocks style
August 18th, 2009 at 8:26 am
Rockstar for assistant coach.He would have ‘em ready!!! =)
August 18th, 2009 at 8:27 am
RaiderT, those lame asses will not be re-elected in 2010 after they vote against this bill. Their payoffs from Insurance companies will be exposed!You can say ass on this site.
August 18th, 2009 at 8:28 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
August 18th, 2009 at 8:24 am
I wish Cable would have just done some hazing, like taped Hanson to the goalpost and had Russell throw some fastballs at his twig & berries. test his accuracy that way, you see? It’s just practice – part of training camp… hard knocks style
________________________
I don’t know — I kinda like the whole anger management thing … maybe it would work on Richochet!
August 18th, 2009 at 8:31 am
ah… the old throw some fastballs at his twig and berries trick…
August 18th, 2009 at 8:32 am
** Three plays I really didn’t like …
1. The first-team offense going 4-and-out with 1:12 on the clock when a score was needed. Russell was nearly picked by Chris Johnson over the middle on 2nd and 2. He missed again to Chaz Schilens by throwing long and out of bounds on the next play.
2. JaMarcus Russell also misfiring to Zach Miller in the red zone when he missed way wide. The only reason safety Tyvon Branch didn’t intercept the ball was because it came in too hot on him. Not a good day for Russell.
3. Defensive tackle Tommy Kelly blowing his run-gap assignment, then seeming to ignore defensive coordinator John Marshall — who tried three times to get Kelly’s attention before he was able to explain the problem.
-David White (SF Gate)
***
Eeeeewwww !!!
August 18th, 2009 at 8:33 am
Let’s put this in perspective, the Gov isn’t taking over healthcare. The Gov is taking over the uninsured that are refused healthcare from the Insur. companies. For instance, if Hanson had been fired BEFORE he went to the hospital he would have been turned down for a pre-existing condition!!! lol
August 18th, 2009 at 8:33 am
plays I really liked at camp:
1. Cornerbacks Nnamdi Asomugha and Stanford Routt sealing the edges on different run plays, forcing Darren McFadden and Nick Miller, respectively, inside to awaiting tacklers. How many times have we seen the cornerbacks bite inside to leave the sideline unattended?
2. Defensive end Trevor Scott doing the same by covering the backdoor. That put him in position to stuff Louis Rankin on a cutback run.
3. McFadden lining up as a wideout from the defense’s 4-yard line, running to the corner to draw a double team and clearing space underneath for tight end Tony Stewart to catch a JaMarcus Russell touchdown pass on a flare route.
-David White (SF Gate)
***
Woohoo !!!
August 18th, 2009 at 8:36 am
# RaiderTW Says:
August 18th, 2009 at 8:33 am
Let’s put this in perspective, the Gov isn’t taking over healthcare. The Gov is taking over the uninsured that are refused healthcare from the Insur. companies. For instance, if Hanson had been fired BEFORE he went to the hospital he would have been turned down for a pre-existing condition!!! lol
_________________________________
Or, Hanson could have just entered Rehab because the Raiders have been so dysfucntional over the past few years — then, Al would have had to pick up the tab anyway!
August 18th, 2009 at 8:37 am
I’m out crew … later!
August 18th, 2009 at 8:37 am
plays I really liked at camp:
1. Cornerbacks Nnamdi Asomugha and Stanford Routt sealing the edges on different run plays, forcing Darren McFadden and Nick Miller, respectively, inside to awaiting tacklers. How many times have we seen the cornerbacks bite inside to leave the sideline unattended?
………………………………………………
Not gonna say it, but if you were here yesterday…..
Fyck it, I TOLD YOU SO! LMFAO
August 18th, 2009 at 8:38 am
* Darrick Brown runs down Gradkowski on 2nd down for pick. Three horns, Cable on deck.
* Raiders go 4-and-out in drill w/1:12 left. JaMarcus 0-for-3, but Hackett yells “Great ball” on last try.
* McFadden at wideout runs fade route, draws double team to free Stewart underneath on 4-yd TD catch.
* Nnamdi Asomugha stops McFadden dead in his tracks on left sweep. By far the most consistent run defender on the first team.
* Red zone starts: only reason TBranch doesn’t pick JR’s misfire is because the ball comes in too hot. He then finds TStewart on same route.
* Greg Ellis taps Gary Russell in backfield at goal line. That’s what they need when the games count.
* Justin Miller shows some hops over the middle. Anyone not named Chris Horton kills his back, though.
* Odd drill of the day: 4 punt coverage guys run in single-file line to PR. Why, I’m not sure.
* Jeff Garcia rusty, seems to be rubbing off on JaMarcus.
* Can Raider fans love a deep catch by Higgins if it means Routt got beat by 2 strides and Eugene was late coming over?
* Jeff Garcia w/2nd team, catches Bush in stride. Wouldn’t get in the way of that train.
-David White (twitter)
***
who is Chris Horton? related to Jason Horton?
August 18th, 2009 at 8:41 am
later tbone!!!
August 18th, 2009 at 8:42 am
twigg and berries!!!!
Thats great Rockstar =)
August 18th, 2009 at 8:44 am
Odd drill of the day: 4 punt coverage guys run in single-file line to PR. Why, I’m not sure.
No more 3 man wedges on KO’s and PR’s…new rule
August 18th, 2009 at 8:50 am
so even when Russell, Garcia & Gradkowski are having a terrible day in camp, they’re still able to shred Stanford Routt & Hiram Eugene in pass coverage?
that stinks!
just another reason to keep Michael Huff
August 18th, 2009 at 8:53 am
Bengals sign former Raiders TE J.P. Foschi
no !!!
August 18th, 2009 at 8:54 am
AZ!!!!!!!1
LOL @ this yesterday bro!!!
1. Hey Oak!
Never thought of that. You ARE MORE creditable! You can put me down as a Ref!
I can see it now:
Please list Reffences below
Name: AZ Raider
Occupation: Kool-aid Pimp
Years aquainted: Less than 1
Relationship: Fellow Nation Member
I bet I get a call, and I’d bet your more qualified than anyone on BSPN.
August 18th, 2009 at 8:55 am
Hanson was the same guy that Kiffin suspended last year. Maybe the thing that hasn’t changed is Hansons behavior. And Hanson walked into a “door” and had to go to the hospital. Nothing to see here, move along.
August 18th, 2009 at 8:57 am
John Madden also here for 2nd day.
7 minutes ago from mobile we
Madden is showing Cable how 2 break a jaw in 6 places =)
August 18th, 2009 at 8:58 am
The Denver Broncos needed more muscle and hustle in their defensive line, and they knew right where to go to get it, acquiring versatile end Le Kevin Smith from New England for a draft pick on Monday.
The Patriots, loaded with talent and depth along the defensive line, needed a fifth-round draft pick to send to the Oakland Raiders to complete their recent trade for defensive end Derrick Burgess, and the Broncos needed more athleticism and strength up front to make their conversion to a 3-4 scheme successful.
***
LOL. I told you the Pats would screw us out of a 4th rounder! now we get a 3rd & 5th in next year’s draft for D-Burg
August 18th, 2009 at 8:59 am
Who knew Tank Abbot became hc of the Raiders I wondered what happen to him sweet.
August 18th, 2009 at 9:01 am
EDEN PRAIRIE, Minn. (AP) Brett Favre is on his way to Minnesota to meet with the Vikings.
Coach Brad Childress confirmed in an e-mail to The Associated Press Tuesday morning that the veteran quarterback was traveling from Mississippi to meet with the team.
Asked if the plan was to sign Favre on Tuesday, Childress replied: “In a perfect world.”
By DAVE CAMPBELL, AP Sports Writer
***
LOL! how disturbing …
August 18th, 2009 at 9:07 am
In case someone missed it or wants to see it again…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nhdZBPLxdtE
Go Raydas!
August 18th, 2009 at 9:08 am
let me go out on a limb here and guess that Favre isn’t just going up for a beer…
August 18th, 2009 at 9:09 am
Raiders in white uniforms. Thought they were the home team today …
7 minutes ago from mobile web
August 18th, 2009 at 9:09 am
Cable just became a non-story it will be all Favre all the time.
August 18th, 2009 at 9:13 am
Will Farve come back for the 2011 season?
Get used to it.
August 18th, 2009 at 9:13 am
NoMoreFargas Says:
August 18th, 2009 at 9:09 am
Cable just became a non-story it will be all Favre all the time.
:::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
just the way Farve likes it !!!
August 18th, 2009 at 9:16 am
# raidertbone Says:
August 18th, 2009 at 7:36 am
Isn’t it funny that the San Francisco reporter behind this whole maelstrom is named “Gay”?
_________________________________________________________
Hahahahahahahahahahahahah ROTFFLMAO
August 18th, 2009 at 9:18 am
Is today the Scrimage VS the Whiners???
August 18th, 2009 at 9:22 am
CB Jason David released by the Saints.
he’s from Covina, CA
5′8″ , 180 lbs. with Raider speed
16 INT’s in 5 seasons = not too shabby
your thoughts nation?
August 18th, 2009 at 9:24 am
What do you get when you mix PMS with GPS?
A crazy bitch who will find you
::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
And why is it called PMS? Because Mad Cow Disease was taken….
August 18th, 2009 at 9:25 am
Always liked David as a cover type of guy in NO not much in run support However he could push Routt….intresting…….
August 18th, 2009 at 9:25 am
bydavidwhite FYI, ESPN’s Mark Schlereth — who Cable went public with on this internal issue — played college ball with Cable. Picking his messenger.
—————————————————-
Makes sense now why he’s been Pro Raider lately. And Schefter has been very fair to the Raiders ever since he met face to fact with Al on NFL Network during the Hall of Fame game. Remember Al told him on camera that he doesn’t work for the Broncos anymore? Schefter has been cool with us ever since. I think he was surprised and greatful that Al gave him that interview being a newbie on that new network. It was kinda a “scoop for him.
August 18th, 2009 at 9:29 am
Remember Al told him on camera that he doesn’t work for the Broncos anymore?
I LOVED THAT MOMENT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
August 18th, 2009 at 9:30 am
BSJ thanks for the kind words yesterday brother!!!
August 18th, 2009 at 9:30 am
284. That’s funny stuff there.
Hey is the cone of silence anything like the circle of trust?
August 18th, 2009 at 9:31 am
This is what I posted last night on profootballtalk.com after they (Mike Florio) posted a I am stupid enough to believe nancy gay article.
“Nancy Gay starting lies and bad rumors about the Raiders is about as old as Kenny Stabler……come on people.
Nancy Gays father is Hitler and her mother is Leona Helmsley of course she is pissed off. She is upset because Al Davis wont talk to the media and she is high and mighty and should always have her calls returned. Get over it!!!
Florio is obviously blind to what menopause is capable of so he printed her crap I bet he regrets it now.
Look People Cable was a lineman he is big and mean and could hurt that twerp Hanson. Hanson is a 100lbs lighter than Cable and is a computer geek, he wouldn’t stand a snow balls chance in hell against Cable in a fight.
If you turds are Sheepish enough to actually believe that Cable had to sucker punch a guy as big as Pee Wee Herman then your no smarter than a box of rocks.”
August 18th, 2009 at 9:31 am
Does anyone else think it’s funny Minn is preaching that “we just need one last piece” again.
Hershel Farve?
August 18th, 2009 at 9:32 am
ANY ONE WHO MISSED OUT**************************
JerryMac’sKidz2
(ID# 574390)
PW: NATION
This league consists of Dell, Myself, Bob Marley and a few other bloggers all welcome
August 18th, 2009 at 9:33 am
Nancy Gay reported.
That’s all we have to work from.
Now everybody is jumping off on her story…SURPRISE!
Only constant in this saga is Hanson himself.
He originally got into Kiffins grill because of an altercation with “a coach that was not Kiffin” during the Denver game.
Kiffin had to step in and discipline Hanson because of his outburst.
Questions that should be asked:
Who was the coach and why did Hanson wait so long before going to the Hospital.
Why didn’t he seek out immediate medical attention at the facility.
My guess is he’s faking the severity.
He called uncle Al and Al was not willing to discipline Cable, and he got his panties in a knot.
So he pulled the “I’ll get Nancy on him” angle
He thought he had the pull to stand up to Cable and I think, unlike Kiffin, Al is happy with Cables work.
Al said son you will have to fight your own battles.
August 18th, 2009 at 9:34 am
Hershel!!!!!!!!!!!!!111 LOL
August 18th, 2009 at 9:35 am
Hey Saint!!!
August 18th, 2009 at 9:36 am
Hershel Walker was like Boobie Miles …
August 18th, 2009 at 9:36 am
Looks like Bruce Gradkowski is taking 2nd team snaps, not Jeff Garcia. Part of a careful comeback?
1 minute ago from mobile web
August 18th, 2009 at 9:36 am
Is this the way its gonna be. Are the Pats gonna spoon feed Denver the players they need.
August 18th, 2009 at 9:38 am
What’s shakin fellas. Favre signing done. Crap!
August 18th, 2009 at 9:39 am
Oak,
What’s the format on the FFL? Live draft?
August 18th, 2009 at 9:39 am
* Looks like Bruce Gradkowski is taking 2nd team snaps, not Jeff Garcia. Part of a careful comeback?
* Teams on field, Frank Gore gets through line without contact all 4 tries.
* Lorenzo Neal the only back to hold his own in blocking drills vs. Niners.
-David White (twitter)
August 18th, 2009 at 9:40 am
Name David White
Location (East) Bay Area
Web http://www.sfgate
August 18th, 2009 at 9:41 am
#292 remember the tree of trust or circle of trust from Old School.
“Once it hits your lips” Frank the Tank!!!
August 18th, 2009 at 9:41 am
Yeah SaintKaufman…kinda shakes up my fantasy football rankings
August 18th, 2009 at 9:42 am
Belichek is taking a page out of Alex Fergusons playbook.
Collect players and then use them to fight against your real rivals.
He sees the Chargers as a threat and is using our division to soften them up.
August 18th, 2009 at 9:43 am
Rockstar…No more corners please just DL’s 4 me
August 18th, 2009 at 9:43 am
Schefter: I’m a big Al Davis fan, truly. He called me out one time publicly, but I truly have the highest respect for the man. He’s a pioneer, a living legend. His teams have struggled recently and so he gets the blame, which is fair. But he is so incredibly sharp, his mind is so strong, and again, someone that accomplished should only be respected.
————-
Now hell can freeze!
August 18th, 2009 at 9:44 am
Check out what this little bitch Kawasaki or whatever this little punk that works for the Mercury News had to say…
http://www.insidebayarea.com/raiders/ci_13147530
August 18th, 2009 at 9:44 am
RRS
Good Morning!
Jason David is strictly a Tampa two DB. The Saints signed him to a offer sheet after he played for Tony Dungy in Indy.
I know having family in NOLA, the disappointment was not his athletic ability, it was his style that didn’t fit with what N.O defense was tying to do.
Their defense was a rolled coverage based on field position and coverages. Left alone in a press situation David failed to play well in that situation.
The tampa two defense requires a quick read and react defense on running plays by the DB’S. New Orleans had him play weak side zone or man and he reacted less to running plays,based on the defense he was asked to play.
Jason David is a pure Tampa two DB, he would never fit in with our system. If you hear Nnamdi speak, not to many DB’S can play pure man like the Raiders do.
August 18th, 2009 at 9:44 am
SF has cr@ppy QB’s. thier game plan is to run & play good defense. keep the score close. win field position & time of posession. be tougher than your opponent
this plays perfectly against Oakland’s weakness. if the 49ers focus on stopping the Raiders running game, we’ll basically fold like a tent – at least thats what happened last year. then they’ll pound the rock with Gore & Coffee until it shatters our confidence & discipline. I’m not looking forward to this game, even if we do get some good scrimmages in before the game on Saturday
sorry guys. hate to p1ss in the Kool-Aid
August 18th, 2009 at 9:45 am
SaintKaufman Says:
August 18th, 2009 at 9:39 am
Oak,
What’s the format on the FFL? Live draft?
************************************************
Live draft 15 rosster spots mostly yahoo default some adjust basicly noraml league..live draft set for the 30th we can vote to change date/time tho..We would love to see you!!!
August 18th, 2009 at 9:45 am
Raiders 1st team 5 back, stops Gore two times in a row — Warren, then Kelly.
5 minutes ago from mobile web
Spoke too soon … Warren cursing after Gore flies right on through.
4 minutes ago from mobile web
August 18th, 2009 at 9:46 am
SMOKE-POTTER
August 18th, 2009 at 9:46 am
Good Morning Nation.
Can we please get a new DT. we can trade for one!
August 18th, 2009 at 9:49 am
thanks for the insider info on Jason David, Dell …
just thought he might be able to unseat somebody like John Bowie, Jason Horton, Darrick Brown, Jerome Boyd or Ricky Manning Jr. if given the opportunity and at the same time provide competition for Routt in the nickel & dime
but hey, if the shirt don’t fit – don’t wear it!
haha. I love that slogan. it’s what I always say regarding fat girls in belly shirts
August 18th, 2009 at 9:51 am
Kusk… after reading the link you provided(thankx),I now have an overwhelming desire 2 beat the living sh!t out of Cow-a-commie =)
August 18th, 2009 at 9:51 am
smoke harry potter
August 18th, 2009 at 9:52 am
KusH sorry bro
August 18th, 2009 at 9:52 am
Good Morning Dell, TW, RR, 4eva, OAK, Raccoon, AZ, Saint, Kush, 666, larz, and Tay.
lol
August 18th, 2009 at 9:52 am
* Manny Lawson shows edge rush, beats Mario Henderson with quick inside spin, Mario chasing back of his jersey.
* In blocking drill, Justin Smith gets under Zach Miller’s pads, drives him like a blocking sled. Lower hips, coach yells.
-David White (twitter)
***
I don’t like this !
August 18th, 2009 at 9:57 am
Hey O, Oaklifer, where do I see this:
Remember Al told him on camera that he doesn’t work for the Broncos anymore?
I LOVED THAT MOMENT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
August 18th, 2009 at 9:57 am
good morning Raider O
sorry for getting personal with you yesterday regarding the Huff & Walker comments …
it’s a 50/50 shot for both of them wheather they fail or not, or even make the team for that matter!
you’re one of the best guys in here and certainly entitled to your opinion. I think Huff & Walker can have an impact this year – just my 2 cents
we’re always looking for signs of improvement from our players. reading about Javon this offseason is certainly more encouraging than it was last offseason. Huff making an awesome play vs Dallas was a sign of improvement to me as well. He was all effort on that play and sacrificed the body. Routt needed help, Dallas was smoking him all night!
August 18th, 2009 at 9:59 am
* Garcia rifles one to DHB who makes the low catch.
* I’m telling you, TE Tony Stewart is going to cost rookie Brandon Myers his job catching and blocking like this. Another circus catch.
* 7 on 7, DHB drops first pass. JaMarcus misfires twice, only connecting on checkdowns.
-David White (twitter)
August 18th, 2009 at 9:59 am
Garcia rifles one to DHB who makes the low catch.
5 minutes ago from mobile web I’m telling you, TE Tony Stewart is going to cost rookie Brandon Myers his job catching and blocking like this. Another circus catch.
7 minutes ago from mobile web 7 on 7, DHB drops first pass. JaMarcus misfires twice, only connecting on checkdowns.
9 minutes ago from mobile web
August 18th, 2009 at 10:01 am
Even ESPN has commented that this incident whatever it was has helped galvanize the team.
This tells me that Al’s support of Cable in regard to Hanson has sent a clear message to the coaches and players.
If Cable intervened in support for Marshall the the Defense is on board with the Cable upgrade.
Saying “I’m In” is not enough you have to feel it.
August 18th, 2009 at 10:01 am
LOL!
i beat ya 4eva
August 18th, 2009 at 10:02 am
Saying “I’m In” is not enough you have to feel it.
breath it,live it,become it
August 18th, 2009 at 10:03 am
you have youth on your side Rockstar!!! =)
August 18th, 2009 at 10:04 am
* Pro Bowl punters Andy Lee and Shane Lechler having a leg contest.
* Four team drills going on at once. Anyone got some eyes I can borrow?
-David White (twitter)
August 18th, 2009 at 10:04 am
TW,
LMAO
I love Nr. Davis.
RR,
It’s all good bro. I’m still working on my education, so you didn’t say anythng wrong. lol
Thank you, and I enjy reading your posts a lot.
As for Huff and Walker, you may be right. I’m a little tooexciyed about trying young unproven talent, and you want to kick the tires on Walker and Huff. Makes sense.
August 18th, 2009 at 10:04 am
4eva: youth???
i’m half way to 52!
August 18th, 2009 at 10:05 am
Afternoon Raider O my good man =)
August 18th, 2009 at 10:06 am
This will only make us stronger the team has bought into Cable and his agenda.
Kush did you see what I wrote about his article, check the second comment on the Blog or I will repost it in here.
August 18th, 2009 at 10:07 am
Rockstar I’ll 52 in 14 months =(
August 18th, 2009 at 10:07 am
*Mr. Davis
Enjoy
Too excited
I need to finish my edumacation, so I can type better. lol
August 18th, 2009 at 10:09 am
O, I hope you got the classes you wanted. Now it’s all work, huh?
August 18th, 2009 at 10:09 am
Hanson needs to be more respectful of veteran coaches and now I think he knows so. What he did with Kiffin really wasn’t good but it was Kiffin already a mess. Hopefully this is going much better now and he has stay in his place and stop agravating things beyond what they already are.
He’s an assistant and he needs to remember that.
I was watching “First Take” on BSPN, and saw fr the millionth time why you can’t trust the media.
They had Skip Bayless(baseless) and the 2live Stews and The Stews voiced a pretty albeit uninformed opinion. OK! then Skipper gives gthe obligatory “I have the greatest respect for Al Davis” blah blah blah!! then says that Al Davis is at fault for this rdeal for putting a bunch of coaches together that don’t like each other. In othere words Cable has the exact same coaches that Kiffin had. Then he says that Davis hired paul Hackett and Ted Tollner to look over Cable’s shoulder.
Eh hemm!!! every Raider fan should know that we have different coaches this year than we had last year because it took forever for Cable to assemble his staff. Also every Raider that cares should know that Hackett and Tollner were selected by Cable almost against Davis’s wishes. Mr Davis aid as much that they were too old. But that’s who Cable wanted in the PRESS CONFERENCE he specifically said that when they announce these new coaches that TOM Cable selected EVERYONE of them that he didn’t pick any of them.
It’s all on record so when Skip sits up there and says things that are so far from the truth it bares no resemblance. How can you trust anything else that comes out of his mouth.
Also the had Cam Inman who wrote an article calling James Jett a bust. James Jett an undrafted rookie freeagent a bust?? Just how is that? when James was never expeced to accomplish much, if anything at all. Everythinmg he did was a bonus.
I sent Cam an email I’ll spare you the gory details but I simply asked him to do some homework first, once in a while.
August 18th, 2009 at 10:09 am
but I still got my full head of hair almost half-way down my back and da bitches still chase me around sometimes so I cant complain yet.Old rockers NEVER grow old =)
August 18th, 2009 at 10:10 am
52!!!
Can you see what you’re hunting?! lol
August 18th, 2009 at 10:13 am
4eva is a hunter?
sweet!
August 18th, 2009 at 10:13 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jzDwTLaaY_0&feature=PlayList&p=0FA31375074DD9B1&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=34
its towards the end……….. 3:02
RaiderTW Says:
August 18th, 2009 at 9:57 am
Hey O, Oaklifer, where do I see this:
Remember Al told him on camera that he doesn’t work for the Broncos anymore?
I LOVED THAT MOMENT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
August 18th, 2009 at 10:13 am
just dont stand by me O =)
August 18th, 2009 at 10:14 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dqOruz3QuqI&feature=PlayList&p=0FA31375074DD9B1&index=35&playnext=2&playnext_from=PL
LISTEN CARFULLY @ 50 secs…..
KING AL!!!!
Stick with us g0d damnit!!!!!!!!!!11
August 18th, 2009 at 10:15 am
TW,
They gave me a late reg date, due to them being idiots and adding me as a PRE Major. Now all the Classes are full, but it’s OK!
I can transfer 4 more units from a JC, and I managed to take 4 classes at SDSU, and I think I can crash 1 more.
August 18th, 2009 at 10:15 am
4eva: you’re old enough to be my dad, but I ain’t calling you daddy!
lol
August 18th, 2009 at 10:16 am
man I wish I knew how 2 post pictures,cause I got pictures of 200-300 pound hogs 40 yards from my back-door.Maybe my GF/roommate will show me sometime
August 18th, 2009 at 10:17 am
Thanks Silver & Black.
I didn’t get a chance to see it yet. On my way to work. I’ll have to check it at work.
August 18th, 2009 at 10:17 am
* WR Chaz Schilens limped to the clubhouse, don’t know the injury yet.
* JaMarcus scrambles up middle when leftside coillapses out of shotgun.
* Todd Watkins fighting for his roster spot, catches 2 from JaMarcus — goes low once, holds on after hit on next.
-David White (twitter)
August 18th, 2009 at 10:17 am
post
346 this is the coolest clip Ive ever seen I think just a real ass dude who loves his raiders AL is THE RAIDERS!!!!!!!!!! If it wasnt for him all that BORN into it lore woulod never exsist YOU HATERS BETTER REGCONIZE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
August 18th, 2009 at 10:18 am
my GF is 20
August 18th, 2009 at 10:19 am
4eva,
LMAO
I’m loosing my hair fast.
August 18th, 2009 at 10:19 am
KOOL-AID is served!!!!!!!!11
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2h3LOUaOhPc&feature=PlayList&p=0FA31375074DD9B1&index=36&playnext=3&playnext_from=PL
August 18th, 2009 at 10:22 am
4eva,
20!!!
When I’m old, I want to be just like you. lol
with my 20 year old girlfriend. AND Smoke Herb. I love it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Nice home away from people, so I can go monkey crazy
August 18th, 2009 at 10:22 am
@ 235 you guys see that block on the pick!!!!!!!!!!!1
WHOAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
KOOL-AID is SERVED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
August 18th, 2009 at 10:24 am
* Getting hot out here, second exchanging of pleasantries in 3 plays.
* WR Will Franklin sure isn’t the answer. 4th drop today, been doing it all camp.
-David White (twitter)
August 18th, 2009 at 10:24 am
Holy crap the sky is falling!!
When did we become so pussified?
Seriously the players fight among themselves and then they kiss and make up, so why can’t the coaches fight among themselves, even the fans swing at each other every once in a while; It’s ok .
This is football and football is played by men with testicular fortitude…
This pussification that is rampant among the media is getting ridiculous to the point that somebody need to slap the media…
August 18th, 2009 at 10:26 am
thats about what we do O.How long will it last…Who cares nothing last 4eva.I guess she likes me cause I put her through 2 years of collage and now she has an ass-kicking job at the hospital.Kinda like sex for education trade-off thing =)
August 18th, 2009 at 10:28 am
4eva: where did you meet this girl?
her high school graduation? lol
August 18th, 2009 at 10:28 am
More propeganda!!!!!11
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bGvSFYQCmx0&feature=fvw
LOL @ 1:04 LOL
August 18th, 2009 at 10:29 am
* JaMarcus gets virtual sack, throws it anyway and almost gets picked. That’s a lot of bad in one play.
* 49ers huddled up for a talk to. Raiders don’t.
-David White (twitter)
August 18th, 2009 at 10:32 am
I got jokes …
Q: what is black & white and blue all over?
Q: what did one cool alien say to the other?
August 18th, 2009 at 10:32 am
well Rockstar…we was having a party,the 2 or 3 day kind where you roast a hog and me and some dudes was strumming our guitars and well 1 thing led 2 another (sounds like a song) and here we are
August 18th, 2009 at 10:35 am
* Wow. No one picks up corner blitz. After the fact, JaMarcus fires into double coverage and gets picked. Bad day so far.
* Samie Parker goes deep, Frye puts it on the spot, ball drops in end zone to the sounds of groaning and cursing.
-David White (twitter)
August 18th, 2009 at 10:36 am
4evaRaider Says:
August 18th, 2009 at 10:02 am
Saying “I’m In” is not enough you have to feel it.
breath it,live it,become it
:::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
i feel it…
really…
i’m feeling it right now…
August 18th, 2009 at 10:37 am
Guess who’s back in the MF house……
August 18th, 2009 at 10:40 am
Guess who’s back in the MF house……
***
who’s MF?
Matt Forte? Morgan Freeman?
August 18th, 2009 at 10:41 am
Pass it around Pete
August 18th, 2009 at 10:42 am
I got jokes …
1. what is black & white and blue all over?
2. what did one cool alien say to the other?
3. what’s at the bottom of the ocean & shakes?
4. Mississippi. How do you spell it?
August 18th, 2009 at 10:43 am
Pete TO THE LEFT!!!!!!!!!
August 18th, 2009 at 10:43 am
any way her family is here and I want 2 move back 2 calli so it is what ever it is
August 18th, 2009 at 10:45 am
can we cut Samie Parker & Will Franklin and activate Danny Southwick & sign Derrick Brooks please?
August 18th, 2009 at 10:47 am
you’re killing us Rockstar…What are the “punch” lines ???
August 18th, 2009 at 10:47 am
Danny Southwick aka “the stormin mormon” needs a chance to showcase his arm to the NFL against real competition – not Bowie, Brown, Horton & Boyd …
August 18th, 2009 at 10:47 am
Kawakami rips the Raiders, again, in a column posted on this site. One line that exemplifies how over the top he goes:
“But Cable is the head coach. He’s only a head coach because Al Davis couldn’t get anybody else to take the job, of course; nevertheless, Cable has the job.”
If this guy follows the Raiders at all he has to know this is a flat-out lie. PLENTY of qualified candidates wanted this job when Al hired Cable. Don’t be ridiculous. I spent weeks on this site lobbying for Jim Fassel to get the job. Fassel, who wrote a letter to Al telling him how much he wanted the job, is a winning NFL head coach who has been to the Super Bowl and was a finalist for the Rams job this season.
Either Kawakami knows so little about the team he’s bashing that he really has no business writing columns about them, or he’s knowingly flat-out lying. Take your pick.
August 18th, 2009 at 10:48 am
I got jokes …
1. what is black & white and blue all over?
2. what did one cool alien say to the other?
3. what’s at the bottom of the ocean & shakes?
4. Mississippi. How do you spell it?
***
1. a skunk in the north pole
2. yo! you’re a far out dude!
3. a nervous wreck
4. I-T
August 18th, 2009 at 10:49 am
Thanx Oaklifer, that was great!!
August 18th, 2009 at 10:51 am
thankx Rockstar =)
August 18th, 2009 at 10:52 am
LOL. no prob 4eva
those are pretty cheesy, but they are appropriate for children
Raider O can share those with his daughter…
got them off of Laffy Taffy wrappers!
August 18th, 2009 at 10:53 am
Per a Mpls beat writers twitter post, it is rumored that Lynn Dickey is coming out of retirement to back up Farve.
August 18th, 2009 at 10:58 am
thankx OAKlifer good sh!t MON!!!
Exla showing his age talking about Lynn Dickey =)
August 18th, 2009 at 11:07 am
be back later. meeting in 30 minutes I gotta prepare for
August 18th, 2009 at 11:11 am
From the tweets it sounds like an awful, awful practice with the 49ers.
– Schilens limps off and extent of injury is unknown.
– Swiss cheese Run D in full force.
– JaMarcus erratic.
– Mario beat for a sack.
– Several drops by WRs (though mostly by guys who likely won’t make the roster).
Yikes! It’s only a practice but these are some of the issues we tend to fear most with this team.
August 18th, 2009 at 11:12 am
RR,
I told the jokes to my daughter, but she just kept looking at me. lol
Too young!
August 18th, 2009 at 11:15 am
they were just below her O
August 18th, 2009 at 11:15 am
always!!!! while the pimps away ill help serve koolaid all day!!!!!!!!!
August 18th, 2009 at 11:18 am
4eva,
Sex for education!!!
Why didn’t I think of that! lol
Sex and education!! I could have had that, but I chose love.
I know!! I know!! I’m an idiot! lol
August 18th, 2009 at 11:19 am
NATION, What is UP???????
The Blitz Question:
Excerpts from article:
According to STATS LLC, the Raiders blitzed just 196 times over the past two seasons, the second worst total in the NFL to Indianapolis. Owner Al Davis has always preferred a defense that gets pressure with its front four and plays tight man-to-man coverage in the secondary.
That’s why some veterans are still skeptical that the change will hold once the regular season starts. Pro Bowl cornerback Nnamdi Asomugha took a wait-and-see approach heading into the first exhibition game and was pleased that Marshall stuck with the plan and that it actually paid off.
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5jY8IF5dO9VNaZlJO-deLcUUrUAHgD9A3N3PO0
August 18th, 2009 at 11:23 am
4eva,
She is a smart kid, and she is funny.
She tells me I’m bad, and then orders me to sit. She says it with a smile.
August 18th, 2009 at 11:24 am
Thec!!!!
Good day bro!!!
Lunch time Nation be back in a few!!!!!
August 18th, 2009 at 11:26 am
I hope Chaz is OK. We need him.
Go Aztecs!!
August 18th, 2009 at 11:28 am
Kawakami is the biggest Raider hater of them all!!!
This is the same douche bag that Herrera almost decked in a press conference last year, hense his Raider hating ways. This fyckin loser will be bashing the Silver and Black until he dies. If you see his name, don’t read or comment on anything this douche writes. I’m boycotting this little puzzy from here on out! Fyck this guy.
August 18th, 2009 at 11:36 am
For those of you that missed last nights discussion & need a good laugh today.
Priest tried to make the case that our DEF line was so strong & dominate that Dallas had to run trick plays against us to move the ball, they had no other choice!
lmao
August 18th, 2009 at 11:39 am
This cant be true! Priest & his right tit Oakglen tell me we blitz frequently you just dont see it because “we arent good at it”.
Gosh, I knew better! Didnt both you ttiz say I’m stupid & dont know Football? You 2 frauds are the biggest joke I’ve ever seen!
Thec07 Says:
August 18th, 2009 at 11:19 am
NATION, What is UP???????
The Blitz Question:
Excerpts from article:
According to STATS LLC, the Raiders blitzed just 196 times over the past two seasons, the second worst total in the NFL to Indianapolis.
August 18th, 2009 at 11:44 am
Not good; Chaz Schilens on crutches, says there is a broken bone in there. No timetable for return.
Tue, 18 Aug 2009 18:30:57 +0000
GREAT! THERE GOES OUR #1 WIDE RECEIVER!!! FCK!
August 18th, 2009 at 11:44 am
Get Javon practicing TODAY!
August 18th, 2009 at 11:47 am
This is fycked up about Chaz..
8-8!
JAVON WALKER COMEBACK PLAYER OF THE YEAR! (please)
MY GLASS IS HALF EMPTY!
52 MEN, COUTLESS FANS…. whatever.
August 18th, 2009 at 11:48 am
O you are NOT an idiot.I chose love at one time.Marriage is for some people and not 4 others.Who knows until you try.The reason I left calli is I went through a divorce and just wanted 2 get away.19 years later I wanna go back.It;s just life and it dosent come with a manual.Enjoy your marriage and try 2 make it last as long as you can.It sounds like you have a wonderful family and life and I;m a little envious my marriage didnt work out but at the same time I’m extremely happy 4 you.It’s just the way it is =)
August 18th, 2009 at 11:48 am
SON OF A BEEEECCCCCCHHHHHHHH
FFFFUUUUUUUUUCCCCCCCCCCKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK
August 18th, 2009 at 11:49 am
Horrible.
August 18th, 2009 at 11:51 am
Broken bones heal faster then tears, strains and sprains. He’ll be ready for the beginning of the season.
See you for Monday Night Football Chaz!
August 18th, 2009 at 11:52 am
fuc fuc fuc fuc fuc fuc fuc fuc fuc fuc
As soon as we start to build some mo, ….fuc
Okay, lets resync.
Now Walker needs to step the Fuc up.
Murphy, JLH, Miller, DHB, all of our WR’s need to step the F up now…….
August 18th, 2009 at 11:52 am
Unbelievable.
August 18th, 2009 at 11:53 am
Let’s go over the last 24 hrs.
- The Cable/Hanson news breaks.
- They have a terrible scrimmage with the 49ers.
- They probably lost #81 for the year.
Amazing how much things can change in one day.
August 18th, 2009 at 11:53 am
Mistabrown Says:
August 18th, 2009 at 11:36 am
For those of you that missed last nights discussion & need a good laugh today.
Priest tried to make the case that our DEF line was so strong & dominate that Dallas had to run trick plays against us to move the ball, they had no other choice!
lmao
buttholeprik
has his head up his anal oraphice 
August 18th, 2009 at 11:57 am
Wow, just watched Behind the Shield with Javon and he sounded totally normal!?!? Articulate, intelligent, didn’t refer to himself in the third, WTF?? Every time I’ve seen this guy I think I’m stoned or something.
Anyways, he looked good running routes.
August 18th, 2009 at 11:57 am
Why cant anybody spell correctly around here?
August 18th, 2009 at 11:58 am
SouthTexasRaider…
I would like to join the fantasy league. You gave the league name, but not the password.
Could you please get me the info?
August 18th, 2009 at 11:59 am
I can’t beleive it!!!! SH!t………
We really need to step it up now across the board with our receivers. No more #1. Expect JR to start hitting Miller alot more now.
Chaz… Get well soon…..PLEASE!!!!
August 18th, 2009 at 12:00 pm
Chaz wouldnt be starter anyway,…jerry mac way overhyped that guy,…not a huge loss.
August 18th, 2009 at 12:00 pm
No wr is going to play well anyway with nobody to throw the ball to them. Keepin it real.
August 18th, 2009 at 12:02 pm
Arman Shields, what are you up to these days?
August 18th, 2009 at 12:03 pm
Lose our starting receiver? Not this shti again
August 18th, 2009 at 12:03 pm
How many games was Chaz hurt for last season. I hope this isn’t a commmon occurence with him. We don’t need to be putting our hopes into guys who can’t avoid the injury bug.
August 18th, 2009 at 12:03 pm
Start garcia, run west coast,..run heavy,..faze russel out.
August 18th, 2009 at 12:04 pm
Raider75 Says:
August 18th, 2009 at 11:58 am
SouthTexasRaider…
I would like to join the fantasy league. You gave the league name, but not the password.
Could you please get me the info?
******************************************
75,
Here is aleague that contains a ferw fellow bloggers if you like…..
JerryMac’sKidz2
(ID# 574390)
PW: NATION
August 18th, 2009 at 12:07 pm
SHEEEEEEEEEEEETTTTTTTTTTTt
Man I hope CHAZ is ok, this could be very detrimental to our health he has showin great rapport with Russell man this is bad……I hope that its just a normal fracture type of injury…..And I hope Murphy is the real deal we need a WR core this year to help a strong run game…..
AZ The nation needs a shot brother…….
August 18th, 2009 at 12:07 pm
Darren McFadden is now a wideout, hereby solving the “too many runningbacks” problem. Fargas, once again, is a necessary cog in the offense.
August 18th, 2009 at 12:10 pm
Norco Bob Says:
August 18th, 2009 at 12:00 pm
Chaz wouldnt be starter anyway,…jerry mac way overhyped that guy,…not a huge loss.
………………………………………………
What do you know? Something negative happens and all the puzzy trolls come out of the woodworks to rub it in.
Get the fyck outta here Norco. I wish this wasn’t a blog, I’d Randy Hanson your asss right now..
August 18th, 2009 at 12:11 pm
I don’t think it’s panic time but this certainly sucks!!! We have to be honest with ourselves. We weren’t going to be passing the ball 35 to 40 times a game anyway. We are still a run first team with the occasional play action pass. That’s our formula to success.
Let’s see if our defence can play up to their potential now!!! I truthfully think we are going to make a splash for a good DT sooner than later. But we are going to have to trade some draft picks. We don’t have anyone on the team worth anything right now.
August 18th, 2009 at 12:11 pm
NEW POST——->
August 18th, 2009 at 12:14 pm
sooo…now the DHB and Murphy picks even look smarter.They didnt say which bone,I think there are around 105 bones in the foot or something like that.DHB Johnnie Lee,Murphy,Yvonne and Nick Miller can handle it.I think Jmac was depending 2 much on Chaz as his go to WR.This will make him spread the ball around more ,imo.I still think we got the best stable of WR’s AND RB’s in the NFL.Dmac can line up outside 2.We are better with Chaz in the line-up but this will force Jmac 2 be a more well-rounded QB,imo
August 18th, 2009 at 1:15 pm
ArchBishop Says:
August 18th, 2009 at 10:24 am
Holy crap the sky is falling!!
When did we become so pussified?
Seriously the players fight among themselves and then they kiss and make up, so why can’t the coaches fight among themselves, even the fans swing at each other every once in a while; It’s ok .
This is football and football is played by men with testicular fortitude…
This pussification that is rampant among the media is getting ridiculous to the point that somebody need to slap the media…
=======================================
gee..I wonder if it’s because PENALTIES KILL DRIVES???
How about “PENALTIES COST YOU GAMES’??
Riddle me this, Einstein. How do you preach self control when you have none? How do you propose setting an example when you’re as bad, or worse than those you’re trying to teach?
Typical juvenile Raider fan response.