Raiders response will be interesting
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Wednesday, August 19th, 2009 at 2:24 pm in Oakland Raiders.
First, let’s head straight for some perspective.
If preseason games mean nothing, then practice sessions mean even less.
What the 49ers pass defense did to the Raiders passing offense bordered on criminal Wednesday morning, but no police report was filed, Oakland can claim nothing happened, and it would be tough to argue otherwise.
It could be no more significant than a 10-0 win in a spring training `B’ game. Mostly, it serves to make the Raiders response in the afternoon session more interesting.
Bottom line, the passing offense was destroyed by the 49ers pass defense. The Raiders running game looked OK, and on the other side of the field, I’m told the Raiders more than held their own on defense against the San Francisco offense.
In all there were five interceptions by the 49ers, four in the last red zone session alone _ two by Nate Clements, one by Dre Bly and another by linebacker Diryal Briggs. Clements had another pick off a Takeo Spikes deflection intended for Justin Fargas in a seven-on-seven drill. JaMarcus Russell had three of the interceptions, including two in the red zone session, and Bruce Gradkowski had the other two.
The 49ers defense was so excited and making so much noise that both the Raiders defense and 49ers offense were sneaking peeks, trying to determine exactly what was happening on the other field.
“It’s not the end of the world,” Russell said. “If it is, then show me.”
Such is the conundrum of Russell, something we won’t know until he goes to the Pro Bowl or is proclaimed a bust. He is either mentally tough enough to let a bad practice roll off his back or doesn’t care enough, and no one knows exactly where the needle currently resides on the scale.
In the meantime, we’ll let the Raiders and 49ers sort out exactly what happened Wednesday morning on the offensive side of the field, as well as some news, notes and observations:
– “We just dominated in all areas. You would think that somebody would have stepped up on their side of the ball, would have been like, ‘Let’s go,’ or a coach would have fired at them, but they were just mellow. I don’t know what it was or why. I know on our side of the ball, that wouldn’t have went down. Or coach would have jumped down our butt. Coach (Singletary) would have came and jumped on our butts,” Bly on the Raiders’ passive reaction.
– “Today they came out fired up, and it showed out there on the field. They got the best of us, especially the last two periods that we had. They really got us. But we’re coming out here this evening, and we’ll just try to bounce back from it,” _ Raiders running back Darren McFadden.
– “I think those guys made some plays and coach emphasized today get up fast and cut it loose and try to give guys a chance to go up and make some catches and it kinda of backfired a little bit. But other than that, go in and learn from that, come out the next practice, try to set a fire,” Russell on the interceptions.
– “I’m trying to get the quarterback to cut it loose in the red zone, but four picks, probably pushed it a little too much, but it’s OK for now, get a chance to teach from that and help them get better,” Raiders coach Tom Cable.
– Besides the issue of knowing when to turn it loose, the Raiders may have been affected by their first full practice without Chaz Schilens, with whom Russell in particular had developed a chemistry.
Tight end Zach Miller, Russell’s favorite receiver last season, could sense a difference.
“He got real comfortable with Chaz and obviously not having him, you have some guys he’s not as comfortable with,” Miller said. “Really as an offense we have to get that trust and that timing down out there at wideout and just make the easy plays, make the checkdown, things like that. That contributed somewhat today, not making the easy play.”
Said Russell: “We’re just trying to get some younger guys to step it up. How we were, as far as a receiver/quarterback, I think he had came real far from what we had a year ago in the spring until now, (we) did a lot of work and you could tell. (I) wish him a fast and a healthy recover and may God bless him with that.”
Cable didn’t want to use Schilens loss as an excuse.
“He has gone to him quite a bit, but that can’t be the issue,” Cable said. “We have to have guys step up. Louis Murphy’s back, and someone else has got to go make those plays.”
– Speaking of Murphy, according to the 49ers it was the Florida rookie who lit the fuse when he began jawing with 49ers cornerback Shawntae Spencer during as wide receivers ran routes in drills against 49ers defensive backs.
“That’s how I get motivated,” Murphy said. “And the coaches know that. Just out there talking man, you know? That’s just part of my game. To a certain extent, it helps me get pumped and ready for the play.”
It may have got the 49ers ready, as well.
“I think actually Shawntae Spencer set the tone for today’s practice,” Clements said. “Just a little trash talking. Wouldn’t back down. So I think that got my blood flowing and it kind of rubbed off on everybody.”
Said Bly of Murphy: “A Florida guy. They’ve got two national championships, so I guess you feel like you can come into this league and talk. I was telling one of the guys, the national championships on this level is equivalent to a high school state championship. Nobody cares. . . . he’s young. When you’re young you’re going to come in talking and want to compete. I was the same way.”
And apparently still is the same way.
“I’ve never been a part of a practice – this is my 10th year, going into my 11th camp – I’ve never been a part of practice like that where it was just total domination,” Bly said. “And I’m dead serious. It was total domination today. We had a great day.”
Bly also got off this one-liner about the defense being “fed” five interceptions.
“They were feeding us,” Bly said. “That buffet was good.”
– While Cable assumed responsibility for Russell being a little too bold, he also put some of the blame on Lane Kiffin without mentioning him by name.
Cable is of the opinion the kid gloves treatment afforded Russell has slowed his development.
“I think that’s true and I’m trying to get him out of that and that’s the whole reason for what you saw,” Cable said.
– Among the few sharp looking passing plays during the course of the morning practice included Russell finding Zach Miller with a nice threw in the middle of a zone and Charlie Frye locating Darrius Heyward-Bey in an open area.
– In the drills which started the issue between Spencer and Murphy, Johnnie Lee Higgins made a leaping catch near the sideline from Frye against Allen Rossum,and once burned Bly so badly on a slant that Bly simply grabbed him by the jersey.
– Rookie free agent Nick Miller nearly broke the ankles of fellow undrafted rookie Jahi Word-Daniels with a double move, with Jeff Garcia hitting him deep.
– Garcia worked with the second team most of the time, but still is not taking his full complement of reps, with Gradkowski doing some second-team work.
– The Raiders had success on some running plays, including one play where McFadden breezed around right end, with tackle Cornell Green telling Spikes, “I would’ve cut your ass (in a game).”
– Among those who didn’t finish practice were Jason Horton (turf toe), Michael Huff (quad) and Chris Johnson (neck). Lorenzo Neal took the field but didn’t practice with a sore hamstring. Defensive end Matt Shaunghnessy is day-to-day with a foot sprain, while Paul McQuistin, who practices only once during two-a-days, will be on the field this afternoon.
Cable said he didn’t know how long Mitchell would be out, saying hamstring issues are “touchy” and saying he didn’t know if the rookie would be available for the opener against the San Diego Chargers.
– Javon Walker was working out in full uniform, pads and all, following practice with a member of the athletic training staff. He’s scheduled to be back Monday and Cable said the Raiders will not look at add a veteran receiver in Schilens absence, citing Walker’s presence.
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August 19th, 2009 at 2:26 pm
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August 19th, 2009 at 2:27 pm
Fix your damned blog Jerry!
August 19th, 2009 at 2:28 pm
Turd
August 19th, 2009 at 2:30 pm
3rd
August 19th, 2009 at 2:36 pm
While Cable assumed responsibility for Russell being a little too bold, he also put some of the blame on Lane Kiffin without mentioning him by name.
Cable is of the opinion the kid gloves treatment afforded Russell has slowed his development.
“I think that’s true and I’m trying to get him out of that and that’s the whole reason for what you saw,” Cable said.
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Cable already making excuses for 2009?
August 19th, 2009 at 2:38 pm
Schillens injury is common for soccer players…..RECOVERY TIMES
Michael Owen (2006): Fifth metatarsal – predicted 6-8 weeks returned 17 weeks later
Wayne Rooney (2004): Fifth metatarsal – predicted 8 weeks returned 14 weeks later
David Beckham (2002): Second metatarsal – predicted 6 weeks returned 7 weeks later
Gary Neville (2002): Fifth metatarsal – predicted 6-8 weeks returned 21 weeks later
Ashley Cole (2005): Fifth metatarsal – predicted 6-8 weeks returned 12 weeks later
Scott Parker (2004): Second metatarsal – predicted 8 weeks returned 34 weeks later
Danny Murphy (2002): Second metatarsal – predicted 6 weeks returned 21 weeks later
Steven Gerrard (2004): Fifth metatarsal – predicted 6-8 weeks returned 10 weeks later
August 19th, 2009 at 2:38 pm
Johnnie Lee Higgins made a leaping catch near the sideline from Frye against Allen Rossum,and once burned Bly so badly on a slant that Bly simply grabbed him by the jersey.
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LOL. and Bly is still talking?
August 19th, 2009 at 2:39 pm
Damn! 5 picks? c’mon J Russ
August 19th, 2009 at 2:45 pm
at this point you can’t blame Kiffin or anybody else for Russell’s struggles. Kiffin was fired on 9/30/08.
sure the davis/kiffin feud didn’t help things, neither did the 3 play callers in essentially his rookie season.
Our season ended 12/28/08 and JaMarcus Russell has had almost 8 months to improve his game.
Cable became OFFICIAL hc on 02/04/09, which was over 6 months ago.
August 19th, 2009 at 2:47 pm
August 19th, 2009 02:06pm
(Bill) Romo speaks on the Cable-Hanson incident
Many of the details surrounding Tom Cable’s alleged assault on assistant coach Randy Hanson remain murky, and probably will for some time, maybe forever.
In the meantime, just about everyone under the NFL banner is weighing in with opinions on the subject. Is Cable a maniac, or a coach who should be congratulated for his passion? Is it a big deal or a media-magnified mole hill? Should the Raiders suspend Cable? Should the NFL get involved?
Anyone is a potential expert.
But looking across the field after the Raiders-Niners joint practice this morning, I spotted the ultimate expert witness. There was former linebacker Bill Romanowski, who infamously shattered the orbital bone of a teammate, tight end Marcus Williams, with a practice-field punch in August, 2003. Williams never played again. The Raiders suspended Romanowski for a day, and he eventually settled with Williams for $415,000 in a civil suit.
Romo, as it turns out, will be covering the Raiders for Comcast this season. He’ll analyze games on Sunday evenings and discuss Cable’s day-after press conferences on Mondays.
He spoke to me and another reporter about his job and the current state of the Raiders, and offered his take on Hanson-gate.
“It was unfortunate for me what happened,” Romanowski said. “I have no idea about what the coach did or didn’t do. Nobody does. All’s I know is I just talked to him for 10 minutes – I like his ass. I’m gonna tell you that straight up. He’s a straight shooter and I said, ‘Hey, if you need anybody to help you out, I got your back.’
“Here’s a true story: After that happened in training camp we played the Cowboys in the preseason, and Parcells came up to me after the game and we talked. Then we walk away, ‘Good luck, da da da da da,’ one of those, and he says, ‘Hey, Romo, I still got one good fight left in me.’ That’s what he said.
“So it’s one of those things where when emotions are high, logic is low. I don’t know what happened and I don’t even really care. All’s I really care about is the Raiders going out and playing good football. That’s all I care about. And if it takes 100 fights out at practice to do that, great. I don’t care. I’ve never been in a training camp where there wasn’t a fight.”
By the way, though two of his former teams were going head-to-head in Napa, Romo’s allegiances were clearly defined. In retirement, he is a Raider.
“As far as football goes, this is my team,” he said. “I played for both of them but I’ll tell you a true story. When I left and retired, I got one call and only one. I was close to a lot of people, close to a lot of organizations, and it was from Al Davis. He didn’t thank me for just being a Raider. He thanked me for what I did in the NFL. He spoke as an owner and as a part of the NFL, that ‘Guys like you made the NFL what it is, and I appreciate that.’ I love Mr. Davis, I do. Sometimes when you’re in the media and you have to talk and do interviews, you have to be somewhat critical of things you see out on the field. But at the end of the day I want to see this organization kick ass. Because at the end of my career they let me play for another year and a half.”
August 19th, 2009 at 2:51 pm
Wouldn’t a broke metatarsal naturaly keep a soccer player out longer? They kick the ball for Al’s sake. Where’s LMN?
August 19th, 2009 at 2:55 pm
Why can’t the Oakland Tribune even get it’s blog working correctly?
There’s always something with this 2-bit thing.
August 19th, 2009 at 2:56 pm
“Clements, a nine-year veteran, said it was the best practice he had ever been a part of.
“Everybody was on the same page,” Clements said. “It was just back-to-back-to-back. It was just dominant from start to finish.”
Bly wondered why someone on the Raiders didn’t stand up and say, “Enough,” but no one stepped forward.
Clements said fellow cornerback Shawntae Spencer got him started by responding to a Raiders’ receiver trash talk. “I was on the field and it just rubbed off on me. It got contagious,” Clements said.
Bly said that none of the defensive backs didn’t want to let down.
The display happened right in front of Raiders owner Al Davis, who stewed in a golf cart during the entire proceeding.”
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Oh schit…Al is going to murder someone…
August 19th, 2009 at 3:02 pm
Sounds like these bitch-azz 49ers players are doing a heck of a lot of talking over one training camp practice. Who are these jokers? Didn’t Bly just get cut by Denver — one of the worst defenses in the NFL. Isn’t Nate Clements most famous for arguably being the most overpaid player in the league. Screw these guys.
I hope somebody takes a cheap shot in Round 2. Get these jokers out of here.
August 19th, 2009 at 3:03 pm
What do you tell an assistant Coach with two black eyes?
Nothing, Cable already told him twice.
August 19th, 2009 at 3:03 pm
Al Davis won’t be afraid to address the team if they truly got embarrassed by thier bay area rivals.
Cable & Russell should be the ones, but AD won’t stand pat if that doesn’t happen. trust that.
say what you want to about Jeff Garcia, but at least he had the balls to call a spade a spade and lobby the team for improvement. thats what Rich Gannon did. he didn’t settle for mediocrity or pathetic.
Russell needs a better approach to failure. Can’t succeed without passion & determination from the QB position. “it is what it is” or “its not the end of the world” types of responses are not what you expect from a leader
August 19th, 2009 at 3:03 pm
later guys. till tomorrow
August 19th, 2009 at 3:06 pm
Russell sucks and so does Cable,..both gone after this 3-13 year.
August 19th, 2009 at 3:08 pm
Pride and Poise Louis, Pride and Poise…
Now go make some freakin’ plays at 4:30 ROOK!
August 19th, 2009 at 3:18 pm
# Norco Bob Says:
August 19th, 2009 at 3:06 pm
Russell sucks and so does Cable,..both gone after this 3-13 year.
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Settle down. It’s one goddamn training camp scrimmage. Let’s wait till the regular season before tearing everything up and starting over again.
Although I do hope the Raiders tear the 49ers a new one on Saturday night after all the talking those clowns are doing.
August 19th, 2009 at 3:19 pm
Chris in NY Says:
August 19th, 2009 at 3:02 pm
Sounds like these bitch-azz 49ers players are doing a heck of a lot of talking over one training camp practice. Who are these jokers? Didn’t Bly just get cut by Denver — one of the worst defenses in the NFL. Isn’t Nate Clements most famous for arguably being the most overpaid player in the league. Screw these guys.
I hope somebody takes a cheap shot in Round 2. Get these jokers out of here.
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Oh quit getting your panties all in a bunch.
Take a cheap shot because the players tossed out smack??
You’re obviously new at this.
I notice you had nothing to say about Murphy talking smack? Why is that? See, he talked the talk, couldn’t walk the walk. He threw down, and the Niners answered. When you open your mouth, if you don’t back it up, the other side will effectively shut it.
And that’s what happened.
Now quit crying, and stop with that “they hurt my widdle feelings..someone go take a club to their knee” whimper.
Raiders got bitchslapped.
You just as soon not have known about it.
Unfortunately for you, lots of reporters saw it.
Niners just poured salt in the wound.
5 picks? LMAO..and that’s just the FIRST session
August 19th, 2009 at 3:23 pm
No 6. I hope Schilens injury doesn’t have him out THAT long!
Its practice. Like I said before – this could be a blessing in disguise. Russell was throwing to Schilen way too much 1st preseason game, just like ZM last year. He has to learn to use and be familiar with ALL his weapons. These boys can ball too.
August 19th, 2009 at 3:27 pm
Next game will be interesting to see how Russell uses his other weapons, but maybe not telling until New Orleans game (more familiarity and Walker returning).
I really don’t care about the Hanson incident. Really don’t. But the press is the press. NO ONE CARES ABOUT THIS STORY ANYMORE JERRY, ET AL! It was good for a few days worth of talk and laughter – but that’s over.
August 19th, 2009 at 3:29 pm
Any reports on how Crabdiva has been doing in these joint practices?
August 19th, 2009 at 3:30 pm
Who care about Crabtree? Anyone with a brain didn’t want the Raiders to draft ANY wr with the #7 pick.
August 19th, 2009 at 3:32 pm
Hey Krappy, I came in a little late today but heard from your cousin Brian the Genital that you got some great scoop over at the old man barbershop.
What gives? You sneak out for a trim and don’t tell anyone? Don’t you realize you could’ve passed out from a massive dump in your drawers in an alley somewhere and we’d never find you? You must be more careful in the future, Krappy.
Hey Oak, where you been my favorite old dude? What’s the haps – tough break about Shilens, huh? Bro, did you how sassy Brian the Genital was acting today? That short, slender dude sure got all worked up.
August 19th, 2009 at 3:34 pm
i think the crabtree comment is hilarious, he is not there, it was a little sarcasm, our pick is at least practicing……
August 19th, 2009 at 3:36 pm
Crytree
Makes Al Davis look brilliant!!
August 19th, 2009 at 3:42 pm
I remember watching many Raider games where they would get their asses kicked up and down the field for an entire half (sometime 3Qs). Then came time when they just turned it on like only a Raider team can do. Next thing you know we were dominating and winning out of nowhere.
You could never count a Raider team out until the clock read zero.
Lets see how these boys come back.
August 19th, 2009 at 3:42 pm
Face it, both Crabtree and DHB are long shots to be stars in the NFL due to 1) the schittiness of their respective teams 2)the unknown surrounding their QBs and 3) the failure rate of WRs taken high in the draft.
August 19th, 2009 at 3:46 pm
We should be comparing the selection of DHB to how Eugene Monroe is doing…not Michael fukin Crabtree.
August 19th, 2009 at 3:49 pm
They all are long shots Dakota …most all draft picks. There are only a few “stars” in the league. So based on that criteria everyone drafted is a long shot.
I wouldn’t focus on stardom for DHB. I would more focus on how much does he contribute to the team? How much better does he make this offense work? He’ll only become a star when the team starts winning and winning more often than not.
August 19th, 2009 at 3:54 pm
I personally think the DHB pick can make this offense go. He just does so much for everyone else.
Isn’t Monroe at LT? Why draft a LT when you have Henderson?
August 19th, 2009 at 3:58 pm
Terp, Monroe could have played RT or LT, either way, our line gets better.
fuk…I hope Al wakes up next year and drafts O-line and DT.
August 19th, 2009 at 3:58 pm
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/writers/joe_posnanski/08/18/raiders/index.html
August 19th, 2009 at 3:59 pm
9RaiderLifer Says:
August 19th, 2009 at 3:29 pm
Any reports on how Crabdiva has been doing in these joint practices?
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Be thankful he’s not signed.
You got slapped down like a dog without him.
how did Bey do?
Yeah, LMFAO…oh..but hey…HE’S SIGNED!!.
He sucks..but hey..HE SIGNED!!.
August 19th, 2009 at 4:04 pm
DE is much more important than a DT from what I saw vs Dallas.
I guess we see it differently. With the added benefit of hindsight I see drafting a Tackle as more of a wasted pick. Specifically if Barnes is moved to RT and is functional there.
The DHB pick just made everyone better (or could make everyone better). It opens up the game.
August 19th, 2009 at 4:04 pm
learn to read Ricoshit
The whiner offense didn’t do much at all so unless Crabgrass played defense today shut it.
You are posting comments too quickly. Slow down.
August 19th, 2009 at 4:05 pm
Dakota Says:
August 19th, 2009 at 3:30 pm
Who care about Crabtree? Anyone with a brain didn’t want the Raiders to draft ANY wr with the #7 pick.
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909 is slow. When confronted on how horrible the Raiders are doing, all he can come up with is Crabtree.
Think about it.
The Raiders are looking like garbage.
Bey already looks to be a bust. Even fans are changing the tune from “deep threat” to “spreading the field”.
Your HC is now the laughingstock OF THE COUNTRY.
And the Niners just completely owned the Raiders…
So what could he say? lol…”DUH..CRABTREE HASN’T SIGNED”.
The whine of losers..
August 19th, 2009 at 4:09 pm
we are talking about practice, i mean it’s practice…we talking about practice…practice….practice…
so chill the f$%&*$ out!
August 19th, 2009 at 4:10 pm
Lynn from Snot Says:
August 19th, 2009 at 4:04 pm
learn to read Ricoshit
The whiner offense didn’t do much at all so unless Crabgrass played defense today shut it.
You are posting comments too quickly. Slow down.
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Great..I even have to dumb down for SnottyLynn.
Another “duh” poster.
Gosh, SnottyLynn..Crab plays offense? Wow..thanks..NO KIDDING.
let me say again..slowly..just for you..the Niners dominated the Raiders WITHOUT Crab..would have been worse if he was there.
See, peanut, they play offense against defense..BOTH TEAMS.
Niners defense completely dominated Raiders D.
With Crab it’s likely the Offense would have completly dominated the Raiders D.
You still confused, peanut?
August 19th, 2009 at 4:11 pm
Too bad the 9ers didn’t get a QB then maybe they would be taken seriously.
August 19th, 2009 at 4:13 pm
I have 2 nuts for your chin does that clear up any misconceptions?
August 19th, 2009 at 4:15 pm
Kool,
We’re talking about the city of Oakland. You know the idiots who can’t figure out a ball park for the A’s in Jack London Square would be in the Cities best interest.
And that the Bull ring needs to be leveled and rebuilt for the Raiders. But that’s Alameda’s f up there!
Hey anyone know if the London Lodge is still there on Broadway?
August 19th, 2009 at 4:18 pm
Thats hilarious. Walker is running around in pads by himself. Can they take that guy any slower??
August 19th, 2009 at 4:18 pm
O my god!!!! Practice….. You F@GGOT ass Niner fans are talking about owning us after a practice!!! WOW… I gaurantee you that on Saturday our first team offence will punch the first drive in the end zone. McFadden left, then McFadden right. Bush thru the middle, then a playaction to miller over the middle for a 30 yrd TD!!!!
Practice!!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHA You guys are weak!!!!!
August 19th, 2009 at 4:19 pm
Terrapin Says:
August 19th, 2009 at 3:42 pm
I remember watching many Raider games where they would get their asses kicked up and down the field for an entire half (sometime 3Qs). Then came time when they just turned it on like only a Raider team can do. Next thing you know we were dominating and winning out of nowhere.
You could never count a Raider team out until the clock read zero.
Lets see how these boys come back.
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AND WE HAVE A WINNER FOR DUMB POST OF THE DAY..
“n came time when they just turned it on like only a Raider team can do.”
only a Raider team can do?? ONLY A RAIDER TEAM CAN DO??
Uh..which team would that be?
Oh..ancient history…GOT IT.
3 decades ago?
Then?
Oh yeah..like ONLY a Raider team can do..lol..
And the topper??
“You could never count a Raider team out until the clock read zero.”
Well, Gomer, the Raider team was COUNTED OUT MORE TIMES THAN ANY OTHER TEAM IN THE LAST 6 YEARS.
Care to revise your statement?
Oh..that means “change your statement”??
Yeah, the current Raider team is just so “scary” with so many “weapons”..teams just quiver in fear at the prospect of playing the raiders, lol…high school teams especially.
August 19th, 2009 at 4:21 pm
Weather Cancels Chiefs 8/19 PM Training Camp Practice
by Joel (primetime 07) on Aug 19, 2009 4:11 PM CDT in 2009 Training Camp 10 comments
I’ve had three references to the weather up in River Falls today so this will be four.
Josh Looney has informed us that the afternoon practice scheduled for today will be rained out. Practice was slated to start at 4:30 this afternoon.
So, I’m not exactly sure what we’re going to do this afternoon.
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Richochet,
What’s up with your team bro? KC that soft they can’t prectice in a little rain or what? Last I checked the NFL doesn’t rain delay.
August 19th, 2009 at 4:22 pm
RaiderRobG,
Lay off my City. You cant blame the Tribune’s blog on the City.
August 19th, 2009 at 4:26 pm
Yeh, well it’s not surprising the 49ers defense destroyed our pass offense. Mike Singletary is their head coach, and we’re using an offense designed for 1960.
August 19th, 2009 at 4:27 pm
You can not compare our current offense to the shell experiment of the past.. c/mon
August 19th, 2009 at 4:29 pm
Heading out to practice in a few . . . was going to watch defense, but now have to see how offense responds to the morning beatdown
less than a minute ago from web
August 19th, 2009 at 4:30 pm
[...] the 49ers pass defense did to the Raiders passing offense bordered on criminal Tuesday [...]
August 19th, 2009 at 4:30 pm
Finally! For some reason I keep posting comments too quickly without even posting anything!
August 19th, 2009 at 4:33 pm
Cut it loose??? Did we sign Brett Favre or somethin.
I cant see Singletary telling his QB that. If anything protect the ball and live to fight another day.
August 19th, 2009 at 4:33 pm
Niners dominated the Raiders WITHOUT Crab..would have been worse if he was there.
See, peanut, they play offense against defense..BOTH TEAMS.
Niners defense completely dominated Raiders D.
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How does a bad red zone session turn into total domination. And I thought the defense played against the offense.
I see the successful plays that got us in the red zone were totally ignored. JLH’s catch, DHB, Miller, McFadden swing pass. Yeah, we’re really shaking in our boots.
August 19th, 2009 at 4:34 pm
Fuk I hate this “slow down ” bullsh*t.
C’mon walker!
I hope he proves everyone wrong and goes pro bowl…
August 19th, 2009 at 4:36 pm
Richochet – Smell yourself son. You can cover up the smell of dumb sht for long.
August 19th, 2009 at 4:37 pm
Oh! I didn’t KNOW it was your city! In that case I’ll have to take it all back…Get the hell out of here, “Lay off my City.”
Ruh-tard!
August 19th, 2009 at 4:37 pm
In the drills which started the issue between Spencer and Murphy, Johnnie Lee Higgins made a leaping catch near the sideline from Frye against Allen Rossum,and once burned Bly so badly on a slant that Bly simply grabbed him by the jersey.
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I wish we could play against Dre Bly every week. Are u kidding me? You are really hangning your hat on Dre Bly Smack? Out of a PRACTICE?
LMFAO!
August 19th, 2009 at 4:40 pm
This place is a circus. After every bad practice all you get are these posters spewing hate, discontent, and I told you so’s. No matter that the team is young and only practicing! They’re young, they’re suppose to struggle as they learn. Sheesh!
August 19th, 2009 at 4:41 pm
Russell and his mink suck,..start garcia.
August 19th, 2009 at 4:41 pm
Jon Gruden and Tim Tebow in 2010.
August 19th, 2009 at 4:42 pm
The real shame of it all is Mike Mitchell. If he doesn’t get on the field for these preseason games, the chances of him contributing much during the reg season on D will be pretty slim. Coming from the Univeristy of Ohio, the level of play in the NFL is an even bigger jump for him than most rookies (Murphy, DHB, Shannessey, and even Myers played against a way higher level of collegiate ball) and he needs all the practice time he can get. Instead he is part of the “normal crew” of injured guys.
I want to believe in the kid, seems like he has a great attitude, but I had a bad feeling the moment they drafted him. Not much has changed.
August 19th, 2009 at 4:48 pm
Just trust in Murphy!
The City’s never had a Murphy that’s ever let us down. Yeah Yeah, I’m taliking old school Murphy. Like, Dwayne Murphy.
I still got my Taco Bell Oakland A’s cup from when I was a kid and told my mom to take me to Taco bell so I could meet Dwayne Murphy.
Used to watch the A’s on KBHK 44 and though Dave Kingman was the badest man on the planet! And then I’d watch Sanford and Son, What’s happening, Goodtimes and the Jeffersons on TV 20!
“We’ve got what you’re looking for TV 20!”
August 19th, 2009 at 4:50 pm
Com’on people! You JUST SAW the 1st team O take it to the Cowboys!
And you’re sittin’ hear worried about a bad SF PRACTICE! SF for Pete’s sake. Do you really think they’re better than Dallas?
August 19th, 2009 at 4:50 pm
http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/Biggs-Crabtree-jerseys-are-hot-sellers.html
what a joke, I’m sure Richoshit got his.You are posting comments too quickly. Slow down.You are posting comments too quickly. Slow down.
August 19th, 2009 at 4:51 pm
Nah terrapin,..the truth is cable is a dumbass,..russell and his mink dont care,..start garcia.
August 19th, 2009 at 4:53 pm
I’d like to think that JaManwich NoHustle isn’t as apathetic as he is being portrayed. But, I don’t know. It doesn’t look good.
August 19th, 2009 at 4:55 pm
“Russell and his mink dont care” – thats a nice one, but you’re wrong I think. Com’on out of college it was said he never gets down on himself and always stays up. You’ve heard him say it before regarding DHB …i.e. “he’s just got to put it behind him and go to the next play” …its just who he is. (I hope …b/c I’m not there …neither are any of you)
August 19th, 2009 at 4:56 pm
S – Rashad Baker is now a Raider. PUP for Mitchell?
August 19th, 2009 at 4:59 pm
Safety Rashard Baker is a Raider ….again.
Looks like WR Sammy Parker got whacked…D.White
August 19th, 2009 at 5:01 pm
Ha ha ha – You Raider felons, I mean fans, are such b*tches. While you make up all of these excuses remember one more thing: Someone should remind you wankers that our BEST defensive player isn’t even practicing. P-Willis would own you b*tches just like Frank Gore did yesterday. Bring it.
August 19th, 2009 at 5:02 pm
8 year olds, Dude…
August 19th, 2009 at 5:04 pm
bydavidwhite
Raiders beat writer David White
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Samie Parker is here. Looking for scrub CB Jason Horton next.
Wed, 19 Aug 2009 23:57:37 +0000
August 19th, 2009 at 5:09 pm
Some should tell MikeinSf that this is the best that his F@ggot ass Niners are going to look all season long. It’s to bad that it’s a month before the season really starts!!!! HAHAHAHA
August 19th, 2009 at 5:12 pm
Hey I was working in Baton Rouge in 05-06. Russell would always do his post game interviews at a place called Walk-On’s, down the street from Tiger Stadium. Man talk about some good Cajun food! Win or lose, (more often winning) Jamarcus always held the same demeanor. Dude is a very cool, composed individual, who loves to play football.
I’m a USC fan. Not too fond of LSU but man, I know this boy can play foozball. I seen em’ play in Baton Rouge on Saturday nights. Like Favre, he’s as coonass as the come…that’s an old southern sayin’ for country. And I think our ol’ country boy is fixin’ to take a gritch to the entire AFC west this year.
Follow his lead people…relax it ain’t the end of the world!
Follow his lead, because he’s the leader of this team.
August 19th, 2009 at 5:15 pm
Dang, it’s a shame when a team has to get hyped during PRACTICE! The Niners defense last week against Denver was horrible! If Orton didn’t throw the ball right to the Niners, the game would’ve been a blow out. The Broncos drove up and down the field on the Niners. If not for the bad throws the Niners would have no way to stop Denver. We all know that some players have great practices and when it comes to real game time, stink it up. Hmmm, Bly and Clements… fit that bill!
August 19th, 2009 at 5:28 pm
* In pass-rushing drills, Tommy Kelly went 2-0 vs. Chilo Rachal. He finished with a swim move to ease past Rachal’s left side.
Trevor Scott was just as impressive on the edge against left tackle Barry Sims. The former Raider had nothing on the defensive end
August 19th, 2009 at 5:28 pm
Jerry Mc _ “Clements beats DHB block to get JLH” 10 minutes ago from PockeTwit
Jerry please explain the relevance of this tweet! Damn, man I swear you just bring out the binoculars for something negative. Anything.
In that same time David White puts up 4 Tweets that aren’t nearly as negative.
Dude sometimes I think you just hate the Raiders n it shows. If you’re a 9er fan, its cool, just let us know!
August 19th, 2009 at 5:29 pm
“In that same time David White puts up 4 Tweets that aren’t nearly as negative.” Believe it or not some were actually positive.
August 19th, 2009 at 5:33 pm
So Rack o Sheet, let me get this straight… The Niner D dominated our D? LOL!!! You are one serious jackass. Thats some funny sheet right there… since when do defenses play each other. You niner fans are a joke. Go sip some chardonay and nibble some chees with your fellow fans. we will beat u down this weekend… count on it…
August 19th, 2009 at 5:34 pm
Tommy Kelly is like our only hope in the DT rotation. Warren and Sands are trash, and I don’t even know who would be considered our 4th DT.
Kelly gets by his man occasionaly, and when single blocked, he almost always push his man back and tries to collapse the pocket. The only slightly above average NFL DT in the whole damn rotation.
August 19th, 2009 at 5:41 pm
Terrapin, I’ve tried to tell these guy’s that Jerry does that crap. He loves it when these guy’s are in a roar at the Raiders.
I gaurantee you the practice this morning while it was a Raider spectacle wasn’t nearly as bad as he puts it. He only says what’ s negative.
And DWhite isn’t a Raider apologist by any stretch he can’t stand us either he just is more objective.
I’m not sure what Jerry’s problem is but if Russell’s farts stink we hear about it.
August 19th, 2009 at 5:41 pm
TJ, Damon said you can call him til Gary returns.
August 19th, 2009 at 5:44 pm
TJ,…Russell sucks and so does Mike Taylor.
August 19th, 2009 at 5:55 pm
He was burnt as part of the Donkeys by Russell and some scrubs as WRs. Oh how soon they forget. Here is a video to remind his arse:
Ashlie Lelie beating Bly for a long one: http://www.nfl.com/videos/denver-broncos/09000d5d80cc09cc
Too bad this game doesn’t matter so that he could play the whole game and be burnt like that again.
During that game, where Lelie played on Bly’s side, Lelie got 92 yards. I know for sure we didn’t throw a ton to Champs side, so what other CB would that have gone to? hmmm. lol Bly is now one to be talking about domintating anyone. He doesn’t dominate anyone when it’s a real game.
The practice sounds bad, but unless they do that to them in the real game, I wont hit any panic button.
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RaiderRockstar Says:
August 19th, 2009 at 2:38 pm
Johnnie Lee Higgins made a leaping catch near the sideline from Frye against Allen Rossum,and once burned Bly so badly on a slant that Bly simply grabbed him by the jersey.
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LOL. and Bly is still talking?
August 19th, 2009 at 5:56 pm
J.Russ has 2 or 3 only. Jerry is reporting two, but D.White is reporting 3. The others were by Bruce.
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Tatumluvr Says:
August 19th, 2009 at 2:39 pm
Damn! 5 picks? c’mon J Russ
August 19th, 2009 at 6:07 pm
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August 19th, 2009 at 6:07 pm
bydavidwhiteAnd yet another Davis TD on Jerome Boyd. MLB Ricky Brown cussing mad at someone for not “covering their grass.”
30 minutes ago from mobile web
bydavidwhiteSomeone better be able to cover a big TE, the division’s got a few.
31 minutes ago from mobile web
bydavidwhiteVery next play: Davis outruns Tyvon Branch for another TD. John Marshall: “Use your speed!”
34 minutes ago from mobile web
bydavidwhiteUgh. Vernon Davis goes up and over THoward and Hiram Eugene for skinny post TD. Didn’t know it was coming.
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Huff anyone?
What was that about being able to shut down Gates, Gonzales, and Winslow meaning nothing?
Huff isn’t going anywhere!
August 19th, 2009 at 6:14 pm
Terrapin Says:
August 19th, 2009 at 4:36 pm
Richochet – Smell yourself son. You can cover up the smell of dumb sht for long.
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awww…what’s the matter?
Winning “Dumb Post of the Day” hurt your widdle feelings?
What did you expect with that asinine “come back like only the Raiders can” silly take?
August 19th, 2009 at 6:16 pm
priesttj Says:
August 19th, 2009 at 5:41 pm
Terrapin, I’ve tried to tell these guy’s that Jerry does that crap. He loves it when these guy’s are in a roar at the Raiders.
I gaurantee you the practice this morning while it was a Raider spectacle wasn’t nearly as bad as he puts it. He only says what’ s negative.
And DWhite isn’t a Raider apologist by any stretch he can’t stand us either he just is more objective.
I’m not sure what Jerry’s problem is but if Russell’s farts stink we hear about it.
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ahhh…got it.
They both “exagerrated”??
And McFadden? Also “exagerrated” about how the Raiders were dominated?
And Russell?
Garcia’s ragging on the team for bad play?
All “exagerrated”??
Yeah..lol…that’s it.
August 19th, 2009 at 6:17 pm
# jhill Says:
August 19th, 2009 at 6:07 pm
bydavidwhiteAnd yet another Davis TD on Jerome Boyd. MLB Ricky Brown cussing mad at someone for not “covering their grass.”
30 minutes ago from mobile web
bydavidwhiteSomeone better be able to cover a big TE, the division’s got a few.
31 minutes ago from mobile web
bydavidwhiteVery next play: Davis outruns Tyvon Branch for another TD. John Marshall: “Use your speed!”
34 minutes ago from mobile web
bydavidwhiteUgh. Vernon Davis goes up and over THoward and Hiram Eugene for skinny post TD. Didn’t know it was coming.
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Huff anyone?
What was that about being able to shut down Gates, Gonzales, and Winslow meaning nothing?
Huff isn’t going anywhere!
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Wow we are in big trouble lol. This is awful. Team messed up didnt get the proper defensive personnel so we will have issues this season. The crew is getting done by sorry ass Vernon Davis. We got troubles man
August 19th, 2009 at 6:17 pm
Jon Gruden/Tim Tebow 2010
August 19th, 2009 at 6:18 pm
Brien,..lets just drink more then usual all year at the games.
August 19th, 2009 at 6:20 pm
# Richochet Says:
August 19th, 2009 at 6:16 pm
priesttj Says:
August 19th, 2009 at 5:41 pm
Terrapin, I’ve tried to tell these guy’s that Jerry does that crap. He loves it when these guy’s are in a roar at the Raiders.
I gaurantee you the practice this morning while it was a Raider spectacle wasn’t nearly as bad as he puts it. He only says what’ s negative.
And DWhite isn’t a Raider apologist by any stretch he can’t stand us either he just is more objective.
I’m not sure what Jerry’s problem is but if Russell’s farts stink we hear about it.
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ahhh…got it.
They both “exagerrated”??
And McFadden? Also “exagerrated” about how the Raiders were dominated?
And Russell?
Garcia’s ragging on the team for bad play?
All “exagerrated”??
Yeah..lol…that’s it.
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Ricochet is completely right. This isnt anything to be seen as positive. I’m upset to even hear an opponent like 49er can score Tds like this. Damn shame I’m starting to see Dre Bly comments about domination. I believe it now
August 19th, 2009 at 6:21 pm
Eugene and Morrison will be replaced by Huff and Brown. I’m telling you, B! And we are going to be much better for it.
August 19th, 2009 at 6:25 pm
No More Infield or Trolls Says:
August 19th, 2009 at 5:33 pm
So Rack o Sheet, let me get this straight… The Niner D dominated our D? LOL!!! You are one serious jackass. Thats some funny sheet right there… since when do defenses play each other. You niner fans are a joke. Go sip some chardonay and nibble some chees with your fellow fans. we will beat u down this weekend… count on it…
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Or you stupid, or just slow??
Didn’t stated D dominated the D, fool.
Take your time reading.
Hell, have your mommy read it to you..slowly.
Then apologize for being an idiot.
As far as this weekend? Again, moron, Niners are sitting Gore, sitting Bruce, sitting Willis..and pretty much any other starter Singletary chooses.
Unlike the Raiders, Singletary treats it like a preseason game, to evaluate talent.
Win or lose, I never crow about preseason games.
That’s for losers…you know…like you.
Do I find it funny that the Raider beat writers are stating the comments they did today? Hell yeah..because it is. Does it mean anything? not really..
But hey, if it will make you feel better, I’m hoping your starters can beat the Niners 3rd string..I really do..lol..because if you don’t..
It’s like Dallas starters beat Raider starters..only when those trying out for a spot got put in did the Raiders do anything..now if the Raiders could just play against everyone’s 3rd string, maybe you’ll win more than 5 games…
Then again, maybe not
August 19th, 2009 at 6:26 pm
Slight stunner: Raiders waived FB Lorenzo Neal to make space for Rashad Baker.
August 19th, 2009 at 6:27 pm
why the hell did they cut him????? man this week has been terrible. After the good vibes from training camp the last month or so it looks like its gonna be another terrible season. damn it all!!
August 19th, 2009 at 6:27 pm
# Norco Bob Says:
August 19th, 2009 at 6:18 pm
Brien,..lets just drink more then usual all year at the games.
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I shall do that. We had our intensive learning BS and are intensively getting our ass pounded at our own training camp. The Raiders only hope lies in Dmac and Bush. You better pray those guys are a tandem for all time ages this season otherwise we will be pissed again.
I give a damn if its practice. The pride as a team to come out and show something. Singletary brought an attitude to this training camp. Not saying its over but things dont look good to me all of a sudden. A team trying to be on the rise like we are actually are closer and its pissing me off especially since I live here in the bay area
August 19th, 2009 at 6:27 pm
It doesn’t surprise me at all that Morrison is making Gore look like an all pro. Not surprised at all
Not surprised that Eugene is getting beat. Did DWhite really say Eugene didn’t even see the play comning?
Also not surprised that the practices following our #1WR going down, our head and shoulders #1 WR, aren’t looking like they did before he went down.
August 19th, 2009 at 6:29 pm
Please guys, stop with the cut & paste. Just reply to a number, name or somethin
August 19th, 2009 at 6:30 pm
# jhill Says:
August 19th, 2009 at 6:21 pm
Eugene and Morrison will be replaced by Huff and Brown. I’m telling you, B! And we are going to be much better for it.
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I highly doubt it will change. Warren has to sit the fuk down as well and Sands needs to wake the hell up.
August 19th, 2009 at 6:30 pm
I told you B …
Neal was way too slow.
August 19th, 2009 at 6:31 pm
No terp we will not okay. We shall cut and paste to directly let the person know what we are talking about
August 19th, 2009 at 6:34 pm
If LoNeal is waived then they must be very confident that O’Neal is back and good to go. Or LoNeal unlikely to be signed. Or they don’t plan on using a FB that often.
LoNeal is a great player but in the few snaps they got vs Dallas, O’Neal just looked better believe it or not. O’Neal still has that punch.
August 19th, 2009 at 6:36 pm
Marcel Reece beat him out, simple as that.
I guess most of you will cry yourselves to slep tonite huh? over a practice.
Excuse me if I wait until Sat. nite to react.
August 19th, 2009 at 6:37 pm
Just throw neal on the pile of old vets who don’t even make it to opening day. They always give morrison tackle total but how many big plays does he make and how many times does he nail a runner in the backfield but some people talk like he is Ray Lewis or Urlacher.
August 19th, 2009 at 6:38 pm
The problem is you have to search for where you guys are laying down a comment. Which means to some extent going over what the last guy said AGAIN. Its just a lot smoother to refer to them by name or number post. They’ll know exactly what you’re referring to trust me. I always know when its a reply to me. jmho …but carry on ..i dont own this damn thing!
August 19th, 2009 at 6:40 pm
man, why are we cutting lorenzo neal? this week is a nightmare.
August 19th, 2009 at 7:14 pm
Lorenzo’s got a sore hammy. They may have cut him with a wink and a nod.