Return to respectability
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Wednesday, August 19th, 2009 at 7:52 pm in Oakland Raiders.
The Raiders’ offense may not have gotten even with the 49ers during Wednesday’s second practice session, but gave a measured, physical and professional account of itself without feeling the need to retaliate.
With the 49ers gleefully celebrating over a red zone drill in which they intercepted JaMarcus Russell and Bruce Gradkowski four times, you wondered if the Raiders might attempt to get something started, hockey-style, when the two sides met again.
Nope.
Instead, Robert Gallery dropped Kentwan Balmer on his back with a clean, legal block on the first play from scrimmage during the team session, opening a hole for Justin Fargas, and the Raiders simply went about their business.
Oakland still had difficulty getting the ball downfield to wide receivers, although Darrius Heyward-Bey made a pair of nice grabs, one from Gradkowski and another difficult catch from Jeff Garcia on a crossing route.
Garcia was the most effective of the Raiders quarterbacks, moving well and spreading the ball to different receivers.
Russell didn’t deserve his only interception, a pass slightly behind Johnnie Lee Higgins which bounced off his arms to the 49ers’ Reggie Smith. The 49ers got another interception on the last play between the two teams until Saturday night, with Marques Harris stealing a Charlie Frye pass intended for Samie Parker.
Russell did have two passes deflected by 49ers defenders and struggled with his accuracy.
The Raiders defense, despite giving up three touchdown passes to Vernon Davis in a four-play span at one point, also acquitted itself well, Raiders coach Tom Cable said.
“It was a tremendous response. Defensively, really lights out on third down,” Cable said. “Just want to see us make a couple of those throws down the field. You saw one get tipped and you saw one get dropped, and one got tipped and intercepted. So I just want to clean up those three plays. Third-down run looked good, blitz looked good there at the end. Two of ‘em I thought we mis-keyed it, but other than that pretty good.”
Cable was pleased the Raiders didn’t come out wild-eyed and overanxious after the morning practice.
“I think we’re starting to turn the corner in terms of understanding, `Hey, this is what (the morning practice) was, and now we have to come back with the right way to handle it,” Cable said.
More news and notes:
– Cable said Lorenzo Neal had not been secretly considering retirement and that his departure wasn’t voluntary.
Instead, it had more to do with the recovery of Oren O’Neal, who missed all of last season after having his anterior cruciate and lateral collateral cruciate ligaments repaired and having his hamstring re-attatched to the bone.
“I think it says a lot about O’Neal,” Cable said. “I think he’s really got back out here, got back into it. He gets better and better with each day.”
He said the Raiders hadn’t thought ahead to the 53-man roster, but surely Cable and Al Davis realized that keeping two fullbacks who were essentially blockers with limited receiving skills was a luxury. Not when it meant a developing block-and-catch back such as Marcel Reece or a versatile halfback/fullback such as Gary Russell would have to be cut to make room.
– One bit of concern _ at the end of the first practice. O’Neal appeared to be in considerable pain. He sat on a bench collecting himself for a few moments then walked very slowly into the field house. He didn’t practice in the second dession, watching in a baseball cap. But that isn’t unusual, in that O’Neal hasn’t been going in both practices during double-days.
– Rashad Baker was cut by the Eagles Tuesday, and ended up back in Oakland the following day. Baker was a special teams player for the Raiders last season who gradually worked his way into a prominent role as a third safety in some defenses. He led Raiders safeties with three interceptions and was tied for the team lead.
It also allows the Raiders to be patient with Mike Mitchell, (hamstring) who Cable conceded earlier in the day may not be ready to play when the regular season begins.
“(He was) a heck of a special teams player and a guy who really worked himself into being that third safety when Tyvon (Branch) went down last year, so it gives us good depth.”
– Cable confirmed that wide receiver Chaz Schilens had surgery Wednesday morning. Breaks of metatarsals often require screws to promote healing and make the affected area stronger. Cable put Schilens’ absence at four to six weeks.
– Cable on Heyward-Bey’s progress: “I see his progression, how to release, how to run routes much better. Now it’s just getting him confident that he’s going to catch every ball. Not most of them, but every ball.”
Heyward-Bey did have one drop in the afternoon session, admittedly on a pass by Russell which was slightly behind him and thrown at a high velocity.
– Offensive tackle Cornell Green did not finish the second practice after being poked in the eye but is expected back for Thursday’s single session. Nnamdi Asomugha didn’t finish practice because of his sore heel. Asomugha expects to be nursing his heel and hip flexor until a week or so before the regular season and said it’s been a common issue for him during camp.
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August 19th, 2009 at 7:56 pm
First again
August 19th, 2009 at 7:59 pm
Wags?
August 19th, 2009 at 8:02 pm
Heres the truth,..if all qb`s on roster were making equal money, russell wouldnt get any playing time.
August 19th, 2009 at 8:04 pm
the calm before the storm
August 19th, 2009 at 8:06 pm
If russell doesnt light it up in next preseason games, (the 4th nobody plays),..if he sucks Garcia should start opener. enough of this russell crap.
August 19th, 2009 at 8:06 pm
‘ ITS NOT THE END OF THE WORLD” sounds kinda like a vy breakdown in progress, sounds like russell needs to have another gettogether
August 19th, 2009 at 8:08 pm
# Norco Bob Says:
August 19th, 2009 at 8:02 pm
Heres the truth,..if all qb`s on roster were making equal money, russell wouldnt get any playing time.
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Agreed.
He would be talked about as an unique player with a lot of upside.
I just don’t see a fire lit under him. I hope i am wrong.
August 19th, 2009 at 8:15 pm
I wont be there Bob if Garbage-cia starts against SD. Count me out for the season
August 19th, 2009 at 8:17 pm
Russell hardly gives a damn if he is great or not, out of shape and abou to let a sissy queer like Garbage-cia take his spot. He isnt improving enough. In four practice sessions the offense had turned the ball over against the 49ers. Yeah its practice but dammit it wasnt against your teammates.
Saturday night this fuker better play well or rumblings of start Garbage-cia will get heavier and heavier come the New Orleans game
August 19th, 2009 at 8:18 pm
can’t figure some players out millions with an s on the end is more than most will make in a lifetime, hoping his lack of fire is coniciding wiht more intelligence gonna bum me out if garcia wins the starting job, but if he’s the best chance to win so-be-it. thats one of the reasons i was not opposed to to coming to oakland, he’d a lit a fire under his ass
August 19th, 2009 at 8:19 pm
I hope you all can finally calm down.
(And please, I don’t want to ever read someone here wanting to draft Tim Teabow. GODDAMN! You talk about a bust waiting to happen? That guys no Pro-QB. With that noodle arm? PuhleeesE!!)
August 19th, 2009 at 8:20 pm
I hear ya brien,..our qb situation is dreadful.
August 19th, 2009 at 8:20 pm
ya terp,..sure,..russell has strong arm and sucks,…Tebow will be way better,..russell out of nfl in about another year.
August 19th, 2009 at 8:22 pm
No Garbage-cia starting means you will have a top ten pick again. It means your own program has to change for the future since Russell is a bust. It totally means 2006,2007,2008 and 2009 were not worth shhhit and you gotta start all over again. Jeff starts you know its done because he cant win against AFC defenses. Wont wont wont wont wont do it
August 19th, 2009 at 8:23 pm
Tebow isnt an NFL qb. I guess Sam Bradford or Colt McCoy
August 19th, 2009 at 8:24 pm
Tim Teabow is one of the most over-hyped players I’ve ever seen in college.
2nd practice turns out not to be that bad and you guys still bitchin’.
Whatever ..better things to do.
August 19th, 2009 at 8:26 pm
Oren Oneal was in pain and couldnt finish practice? LOL and we cut Neal. Yeah Terp lets calm down now
August 19th, 2009 at 8:26 pm
Brien
Do you really think that Daddy Al is going to pay JaMarcus 15 Million dollars to sit on the bench while Garica plays dink and dunk.
Nobody drinks more JaMarcus kool-aid than AD JaMarcus could throw 40 INT’s in a season, fondle Al Davis’s niece and he would still have a job next year.
August 19th, 2009 at 8:29 pm
Tebow = Troy Smith in the NFL
August 19th, 2009 at 8:29 pm
Tim Teabow is like a broke Mike Vick with no arm, half the speed, and comparable QB ability finding open targets and making the throw to them.
One of the most over-hyped players coming out ever. I pity the team thats going to waste millions on him if they are so silly to draft him top 10.
I’m confident the Raiders won’t be that team.
August 19th, 2009 at 8:30 pm
# Terrapin Says:
August 19th, 2009 at 8:24 pm
Tim Teabow is one of the most over-hyped players I’ve ever seen in college.
2nd practice turns out not to be that bad and you guys still bitchin’.
Whatever ..better things to do.
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Yeah? Then go do them. I have every damn right to say what I want about the team. Russell’s progression is too slow man. It is not enough. do you realize they have to win this year or the thing will be busted up? I love the Raiders but dammit somethings cant just be tossed aside. Russell is still throwing ints and isnt accurate. How can you not be upset?
August 19th, 2009 at 8:32 pm
Russell played well thursday?…I was there and didnt see that,…bout a 45 yard pi penalty to get a first and goal,..got a field goal.
August 19th, 2009 at 8:33 pm
# jhill Says:
August 19th, 2009 at 8:26 pm
Saturday night this fuker better play well
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It won’t matter. He played well Thursday, and here we are still hearing this mess from the JRuss haters.
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Fuk all that. I need to see something now!!!! You guys wanna wait wait wait. This is the new NFL where you better catch on fast. Is he?
And yes as a leader he needs to play well Saturday. This will show his team that earlier in the week was a farce and this is how we go out and compete. The season rides on him plain and simple. You are gonnna deny that or not?
August 19th, 2009 at 8:33 pm
How’s this thing going to be busted up when most of our young stars are under contract for years?
Maybe the coaching staff if the team lays a big egg; but if they show progress I don’t see that happenin’ either.
August 19th, 2009 at 8:33 pm
I’m out …Tim Tebow..HA!
August 19th, 2009 at 8:34 pm
I must ask…. How is Tim Tebow over hyped? Are you saying over rated? Or just ESPNd
August 19th, 2009 at 8:36 pm
Russell played average last thursday. I didnt see anything that great Jhill. The guy who caught 4 passes who he trust is gone. Saturday night will tell us more.
You people gotta be hard on these guys like an angry coach. Gotta stop the soft pitty pat criticism around here. The guy has gotta get it done this year or it will never happen.
August 19th, 2009 at 8:37 pm
We are stuck with Russell weather he succeeds or fails. AD has a man crush on him.
August 19th, 2009 at 8:38 pm
# Terrapin Says:
August 19th, 2009 at 8:33 pm
How’s this thing going to be busted up when most of our young stars are under contract for years?
Maybe the coaching staff if the team lays a big egg; but if they show progress I don’t see that happenin’ either.
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Progess this season is winning the damn weak ass AFC west. Terp there is zero excuse for it not to happen with Russell supposedly the Franchise’s face.
August 19th, 2009 at 8:40 pm
Svr N Blk……………yeah but if he sucks then its gonna be a new staff. How does that shyt really help us for the future?
August 19th, 2009 at 8:42 pm
..start Frye.
August 19th, 2009 at 8:42 pm
Russell is still throwing ints and isnt accurate.
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When he starts throwing picks in the games, and being in accurate in the games THEN let’s talk.
The guys was accurate on so on time, that he actually made it look like Cornell Green was doing something at RT.
Are you REALLY telling me that Russell is the problem with this team? I thought it was Fargas? Cornell Green? Morrison, Warren, Burgess, Huff, Eugene, Grove, Kwame, Kiffin …….
CMON!
August 19th, 2009 at 8:42 pm
Saying Russell played well is an overstatement. Even some of the passes he completed werent good throws. Some of you are letting hope cloud your judgement.
August 19th, 2009 at 8:48 pm
Jhill, those guys are problems as well but if Russell doesnt play lights out this year the team cant compete every sunday especially against the stout Defenses we play this year
You honeslty gonna tell me the Raiders have a winnig season with Russell being average and inconsistent?
August 19th, 2009 at 8:49 pm
Jhill, do you want to win games or just improve slightly
August 19th, 2009 at 8:49 pm
Russell sucks and would be cut already if not for that ridiculous contract.
August 19th, 2009 at 8:50 pm
Evening NATION!!!!
Russell is the real deal get over it…as soon as this kid figures out you cant just go throu the motions he will dominate!!
I really hope OO is ready to go but i would rather have another DB/ST that plays then 3 FB’s on the roster!!!
Brien you stillin the ghetto thizzz fine eve???
August 19th, 2009 at 8:51 pm
jhill narco silver whats the haps fellas???
August 19th, 2009 at 8:51 pm
JRuss lead the team to impressive wins against Texas, real game, and Tampa Bay, real game again to close the season. In those games, he completed SEVENTY PERCENT of his passes with 4 TDs and 1 pick. Both victories by the way.
The guy is at the facility all summer working out and working with his WRs. No one disputes this.
Comes out (despite the reported bad practices) and promptly leads the team right down the field THROWING THE BALL. Would’ve been a TD except for what? Same problem as last year, penalties. Second drive? Same things except for AWWWW ANOTHER drive killing penalty by Cooper Carlisle.
But we are talking about the QB, why? Does he need to complete 80% of his passes and throw zero picks?
August 19th, 2009 at 8:54 pm
naw Lifer I jetted hours ago man. Its getting dark and the commo youngstas filing out. I’m way cool
August 19th, 2009 at 8:56 pm
yup yup fasho never sleep on that shizz…
you think russell will flop or feast cutty???
August 19th, 2009 at 8:56 pm
LOL Russell was working out? Then Why Jhill did he come to camp outta shape? Why is the word on the street here in the bay that he isnt dedicated and runs them broads too much? Now the penalty excuse for Russell. What about rhe fact on the play to Chaz SChielsn the pass was thrown behind him not allowing him score a TD? Ever thought about that?
August 19th, 2009 at 8:57 pm
JRuss, just like any other QB in this league, is not going to win games by himself, and he won’t have to. I think this team has weapons in enough positions, like we were talking about earlier today, to win the 8 games we should have won last year. I’m not convinced that we have the RT and RG to really do what I think we should be doing. Same with the RDE and MLB positions. Not to mention that our best players are in their 2nd year in the league. JRuss, DMac, Bush, DHB, Chaz, and JLH have to develop into a elite unit. This is the first year they are running the Hackett/Tollner/Cable offense. The expectations are UNREAL! We are rebuilding, you know.
August 19th, 2009 at 8:59 pm
Lifer………….bruh i cant really call it right now. I’m upset because we have the same issues from last year for the most part and we paid Russell alot of money and he walks around as if he doesnt care if he wins or not.
You like me live in the bay and you know people out here talk. These players are messing with these broads and kickin it big time. Idiots want a link or some words froma f@ggot ass columnist but people in the street and local bars know the real deal
August 19th, 2009 at 9:01 pm
This clown is starting to worry me.
“Russell did have two passes deflected by 49ers defenders and struggled with his accuracy”
August 19th, 2009 at 9:03 pm
# jhill Says:
August 19th, 2009 at 8:57 pm
JRuss, just like any other QB in this league, is not going to win games by himself, and he won’t have to. I think this team has weapons in enough positions, like we were talking about earlier today, to win the 8 games we should have won last year. I’m not convinced that we have the RT and RG to really do what I think we should be doing. Same with the RDE and MLB positions. Not to mention that our best players are in their 2nd year in the league. JRuss, DMac, Bush, DHB, Chaz, and JLH have to develop into a elite unit. This is the first year they are running the Hackett/Tollner/Cable offense. The expectations are UNREAL! We are rebuilding, you know.
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JRuss isnt going to carry a team on his back and win like any QB. Ok stop right there. Think about that just bit Jhill. We have seen countless times where QBs took the load and won games on their back.
Yes we have weapons but if our QB isnt more accurate this season then those guys are nothing. Its like a benz with 4 flats man.
Sorry we do have a RDE and his name is Trevor Scott. MLB slot is hopeless just like the NT spot or DT spot since BHP says we dont use a nose tackle. I dont see it that way but oh well.
We have been rebuilding for what a 3rd year in a row? Come on man
August 19th, 2009 at 9:05 pm
# Mistabrown Says:
August 19th, 2009 at 9:01 pm
This clown is starting to worry me.
“Russell did have two passes deflected by 49ers defenders and struggled with his accuracy”
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(Sarcasm)
Aw you are only saying that cuz he is black not because of his performance. You right winged nuts always wanna pur salt on something. Soci@lism is a good thing dont you know anything?
August 19th, 2009 at 9:06 pm
How is Russell’s big dumb ass at 6′6 getting passes batted down?
August 19th, 2009 at 9:07 pm
for real huh!!
hopefully he starts to take this thing serious…..Some one should sit him down and show him Madden being induted to the hall of fame….Show him how Stabler used to pull of the impossible…Show him the dedication a guy like Blanda had who could would and did it all fo tha Raiduhs…
But on the last year year tip yup…no help alnong the d-line basicly trading burg fir ellis no depth Dands is worhtless….And now we are siging DB’s left and right is G.J ok or is routt just that bad…If our D dsnt step it up big time…and our oline dsnt gel we could be in for a few long weeks in Sept/Oct…
August 19th, 2009 at 9:08 pm
I bet Russell is going to tell reporters……………..
“Ah weh, we aint pluh gooded enuph today. The fo ninahs mey sum pluhs buh we jussa wurkin harr”
August 19th, 2009 at 9:08 pm
So Chaz is not telling the truth when he says that him and JRuss were working out together, uh, I mean throwing and catching passes, or whatever you want to call it?
I get what you are saying Brien. Has he reached the point where he is 100% into being the QB of the Raiders? Not enjoying his celebrity and his $? Eating grilled chicken instead of fried? It’s obvious that hasn’t happened, and it might not ever happen. But you know what, it just might. And the way I see it, it hasn’t impacted his play on the field. And of course the guy will mature. Don’t we all?So Chaz is not telling the truth when he says that him and JRuss were working out together, uh, I mean throwing and catching passes, or whatever you want to call it?
I get what you are saying Brien. Has he reached the point where he is 100% into being the QB of the Raiders? Not enjoying his celebrity and his $? Eating grilled chicken instead of fried? It’s obvious that hasn’t happened, and it might not ever happen. But you know what, it just might. And the way I see it, it hasn’t impacted his play on the field. And of course the guy will mature. Don’t we all?
August 19th, 2009 at 9:09 pm
I said a few weeks ago i’ll give Russell to week 8 to prove himself I may reduce that to week 4 if he dont start playing football. He just looks to be aloof or maybe slow in the head. Whatever the case if hes going to practice like a girl he better light it up when the real bullets start flying or the Nation is going to jump this kid, rightfully so!
August 19th, 2009 at 9:11 pm
You nickle & dime pootbutts quit lying about what you heard on the street.
You don’t know a gawdamned thing about Russell’s personal life.
August 19th, 2009 at 9:11 pm
Lifer we have no DT who can stuff the run. Sometimes we can get pressure on the wb then others we dont. Consistently there isnt a big guy to push the pocket so the qB doesnt step in the pocket. That really helps the D-ends as well. Dont get me wrong I like our ends but the DTs are concerning me. Well at least the starting combo does because they dont mesh well. Warren shouldnt start
August 19th, 2009 at 9:12 pm
Norco Bob Says:
August 19th, 2009 at 8:49 pm
Russell sucks and would be cut already if not for that ridiculous contract.
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You cant belive this shizzz bobby!?!?!? demoted maybe traded hmmm….cut no way man he would prob start and lead us to the same 8-8 record he will this year nd remember that is “goo nuff fo da playoffss” in tha AFC west
August 19th, 2009 at 9:12 pm
# KoolKell Says:
August 19th, 2009 at 9:11 pm
You nickle & dime pootbutts quit lying about what you heard on the street.
You don’t know a gawdamned thing about Russell’s personal life.
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Haha Kell, just like the barbershop talk huh?
August 19th, 2009 at 9:12 pm
there’s more to this Lorenzo Neal story…
it makes no sense to cut him this early…
August 19th, 2009 at 9:15 pm
JERRY IM SO FKN SICK & TIRED OF THIS P.O.S BLOG SERVER. HOW LONG SHOULD I WAIT BETWEEN POST 3 DAYS ?
NEVERMIND BECAUSE THE FIRST TIME I POST IT TELLS ME TO SLOW DOWN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
WHAT KINDA DOG & PONY CIRCUS A$$ BLOG IS THIS ???????
FIX IT OR IM WRITING A LETTER!!!
August 19th, 2009 at 9:15 pm
“receding hair line fade” LOL
August 19th, 2009 at 9:15 pm
The Chargers ended the year way stronger than the Raiders did yet the Raiders are gonna build on the momentum but the Chargers wont? LOL.
August 19th, 2009 at 9:16 pm
You are posting comments too quickly. Slow down.
August 19th, 2009 at 9:16 pm
I am REALLY getting sick of the “Slow Down” BS.
August 19th, 2009 at 9:17 pm
Pete he is oooooollllllddddd very….he is not nearly as versitile as OO and a few others Reece maybe….His leadership will be missed….unless he lacked that maybe???
August 19th, 2009 at 9:17 pm
Jhill, I wont doubt he threw some passes but also I think Chaz wouldnt leave his teammate out to dry. I ask you if he was working out for real then why is he overweight? He should be in tip top condition because his fat ass wasnt last season
No Jhill, you dont get what i’m saying. It needs to come together now. This isnt the days of the 5 year plan. He is the face of the franchise and better play like so. I will be hard on him until I see it. Tired of giving people free passes til they prove me wrong.
August 19th, 2009 at 9:18 pm
# OAKlifer Says:
August 19th, 2009 at 9:15 pm
“receding hair line fade” LOL
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HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
August 19th, 2009 at 9:18 pm
I SHOULD BE ABLE TO POST A 4.29 on this blog Al would be pissssssed
August 19th, 2009 at 9:19 pm
Pat Kirwin who was at practices today really went out of his way not to be too hard on Russell, but he was NOT impressed. Said with Russell the Raiders are 5 or 6 win team. With Garcia they are 8 or 9.
August 19th, 2009 at 9:20 pm
Jerry, you are blogging too quickly. Slow down.
What a FKN joke!
August 19th, 2009 at 9:21 pm
The AFC West stinks period. SD may be the top dog but they barely got in due to a massive denver choke job. Dont be fooled SD isnt good either. Sad thing is we got questions on the dline and at the QB specifically toppled with Cable maybe still being a moron in game situations
August 19th, 2009 at 9:21 pm
alright ya’ll fellas stay up!! B to the G dnt slip man its a heat or be heated world man make sure you dnt catch fi-ya!! Till next AM
Raider on!!!!!
August 19th, 2009 at 9:23 pm
The Raiders best QB ever was arguably……..fuk it was enny Stabler. What did he say 4-5 months ago about Russell? Did he not say the Raiders need to make things more simple for Russell. That isnt very inspiring that a hall of famer from your home area thinks you arent smart enough to handle complicated schemes. But yet I’m the hater
August 19th, 2009 at 9:23 pm
Russell wont make through the opener,…after the chargers jump on top 21-0, in the first quarter, Russell will be benched,..for season in place of Garcia.
August 19th, 2009 at 9:24 pm
# OAKlifer Says:
August 19th, 2009 at 9:21 pm
alright ya’ll fellas stay up!! B to the G dnt slip man its a heat or be heated world man make sure you dnt catch fi-ya!! Till next AM
Raider on!!!!!
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Fa sho cutty Ima be at ya
August 19th, 2009 at 9:25 pm
# Norco Bob Says:
August 19th, 2009 at 9:23 pm
Russell wont make through the opener,…after the chargers jump on top 21-0, in the first quarter, Russell will be benched,..for season in place of Garcia.
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Wooooo I’d hope it wouldnt be that bad. Chargers aint that good to be up 21-0 on anyone this season. Garbage-cia starting any game means I wont watch
August 19th, 2009 at 9:26 pm
What’s up OAK, Nation?
I think JR will play well enough to help win a few games, but not cost us any. IMHO that’s exactly what we need from the young man, we will be a top 5 rushing team, and he jet had to manage the game for now.
I worry about the Run D!! We will need JR to play great, if the Run Defense stays the same. That’s too much to ask from JR now, not a great Oline, and he is still learning.
August 19th, 2009 at 9:28 pm
Whered the Chargers end up last year? Cant remember.
August 19th, 2009 at 9:29 pm
Dont trip brien, we bringing extra booze this year, you will be fine.
August 19th, 2009 at 9:30 pm
The chargers ended up in last place like we did possibly getting ready to axe LaDanian
August 19th, 2009 at 9:31 pm
# Norco Bob Says:
August 19th, 2009 at 9:29 pm
Dont trip brien, we bringing extra booze this year, you will be fine.
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Count me out if Garbage-cia starts. I wont even watch it. I’ll look at the re-air of the Cal games instead
August 19th, 2009 at 9:32 pm
Raider O,..he will help us win a few,..not lose us any,…IS THAT WHAT WE GET FOR A NUMBER ONE PICK AND 65 MILLION DOLLARS?????????????????????
August 19th, 2009 at 9:33 pm
Who was in the AFC championship game in 09?
August 19th, 2009 at 9:33 pm
Brien you may be on to something,..maybe its time for us real fans that go to games,..to not go,..not pay attention….maybe thats what it takes for things to change upstairs in Alameda.
August 19th, 2009 at 9:34 pm
Pitt-Ravens
August 19th, 2009 at 9:34 pm
9.
Dude, STFU! You don’t have your ear to the streets and there ain’t no Raiders player kickin’ it with you gangsta style in the club telling you secrets. Idiot.
If Russell didn’t give a damn about football, he sure as hell wouldn’t have been a starter for Les Miles at LSU….let me guess, you’re one of those people that thinks SEC football is overrated.
No, I wasn’t there at Russell camp with the wide out and neither were you. But the Big Boy is trying and making an effort. If you’re looking for a rah rah rah guy. That’s never been Jamarcus’ style and it never will be.
Lets see what happens on the field before passing judgment base on Pratice.
To steal a little something from Mr. Iverson…
We’re sitting here, and Russell’s supposed to be the franchise player, and we’re talking about practice. I mean listen, we’re sitting here talking about practice, not a game, not a game, not a game, but we’re talking about practice. Not the game that Russell goes out there and dies for and plays every game like it’s his last but we’re talking about practice man. How silly is that?
August 19th, 2009 at 9:36 pm
Russell will never be good while he is on the Raiders. He’s playing for an organization that lacks discipline and structure at the highest levels. I’d give hime a shot if he was playing for the Pats or Steelers but no way with the Raiders. The Raiders don’t suck because of the players they have they suck because they are a poorly run organization.
August 19th, 2009 at 9:38 pm
Thats right the Chargers won the wild card round then lost to Pitt. Thanx
August 19th, 2009 at 9:39 pm
Hey Brien,youre negative so early ,I think Norco Bob is working on ya,it Was a practice,scrimmage,relax,fellas! JRuss will be fine,what young man with cash fame,does not chase the ladies? Stabler is my fav QB,and ran into him w/babes countless times,Jack London Square,Black Angus (San Lorenzo)etc live music Lets let the chips fall,see if you guys and Dakota are right RAIDERS!!!
August 19th, 2009 at 9:39 pm
Stallion is 100% correct and it doesnt get talked about enough.
August 19th, 2009 at 9:40 pm
Jhill, you can’t tell these guy’s nthing their mind are already made up,
He better light it up this year or else? or else what?? what will you do if he doesn’t? you’ll still be here whinning and crying about what he doesn’t do.
Brien relax Russell is here for the long haul wether yu or any other hothead likes it or not the kid is way to talented and one day soon he will light it up. Count on it!!
Everybody in here says you have to be patient with WR’s because they take 2-3 years to develope but with Russell everything has to be RIGHT NOW or else!
The average QB takes 4-5 years to really get his game to the level that he will play at for the next 10 years. But Russell doesn’t get that luxury because a bunch of unappreciative fans that don’t understand the process of developing a QB.
Everytime Jerry says Russell struggled with accuracy everybody goes nuts!! Well tough whine and cry all you want this kid is going to be here………….period
August 19th, 2009 at 9:41 pm
The Italion Stallions probably right.
August 19th, 2009 at 9:41 pm
TJ,…have you called Damon, or are you waiting for Gary?
August 19th, 2009 at 9:43 pm
Priest,
Do you have the ability to look at anything about the Raiders with a un biased eye?
August 19th, 2009 at 9:45 pm
Ron,..TJ gets all his info from Mike Taylor, the butt-hole of Alameda.
August 19th, 2009 at 9:45 pm
Neal was old, and he can’t catch. We can only keep 2 FBs, so we cut him.
August 19th, 2009 at 9:48 pm
I firmly believe TJ is a member of the Raiders PR staff. Not joking at all. His views are so wacked out and hes always trying to convince somebody how good the Raiders and their players are. He actually tried to convince people the DTs are actually good.
August 19th, 2009 at 9:48 pm
Neal is better then the other 2 put together. He likely asked to be cut after seeing he was with a bunch of pussies.
August 19th, 2009 at 9:48 pm
Thanks for the explanation RaiderO.
August 19th, 2009 at 9:51 pm
I guess Cable is on the PR staff as well because he said the same thing. The DT’s fr the Raiders only get disrespect in here other teams respect them as we saw vs Dallas. But why screw up stupidity with facts.
August 19th, 2009 at 9:52 pm
Norco Bob, go to bed NOW!! go to your room pronto.
August 19th, 2009 at 9:52 pm
Im in bed listening to Damon,..call him TJ.
August 19th, 2009 at 9:53 pm
Cable might as well be on the PR staff, he the coach for christ sakes. Whats he gonna say “Russell just isnt getting it. He sux”?
Other teams respect them so much they run up their ass all game long. Oh I forgot, the Cowboys ran revers because they knew they couldnt run at them. LOL!!
August 19th, 2009 at 9:53 pm
Gilbert,
RAIDERS!!!!
August 19th, 2009 at 9:53 pm
# RaiderRobG Says:
August 19th, 2009 at 9:34 pm
9.
Dude, STFU! You don’t have your ear to the streets and there ain’t no Raiders player kickin’ it with you gangsta style in the club telling you secrets. Idiot.
If Russell didn’t give a damn about football, he sure as hell wouldn’t have been a starter for Les Miles at LSU….let me guess, you’re one of those people that thinks SEC football is overrated.
No, I wasn’t there at Russell camp with the wide out and neither were you. But the Big Boy is trying and making an effort. If you’re looking for a rah rah rah guy. That’s never been Jamarcus’ style and it never will be.
Lets see what happens on the field before passing judgment base on Pratice.
To steal a little something from Mr. Iverson…
We’re sitting here, and Russell’s supposed to be the franchise player, and we’re talking about practice. I mean listen, we’re sitting here talking about practice, not a game, not a game, not a game, but we’re talking about practice. Not the game that Russell goes out there and dies for and plays every game like it’s his last but we’re talking about practice man. How silly is that?
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Gangsta style? LOL See what I mean with people in here? They make themselves obvious if you know what I mean. Only gangstas go to bars and nightclubs?
And yes in the streets meaning out in the public places here in area. See my little suburb living white Malibu’s Most Wanted Friend, those movies you watch really have you confused on urban slang. Many words are amibigious so dont take the street thing for being something reserved for a gangsta. You come off as a complete idiot when you say such things. Yes these players talk. These guys are out all the time and are always seen around town. Are you fukin stupid?
The SEC overrated? LOL go to the archives you idiot and see what I have said about the SEC you dumbass. I’ve actually been to SEC games before inthe South have you?
Practice, the its the line no its the WRs, then its the organization. When will the excuses stop for the guy?
August 19th, 2009 at 9:58 pm
I’m sorry but have any of you haters actually been to camp and watched a practice or are you just reacting to the the media reports? I mean a few of you actually seem to be spending time in Napa…
August 19th, 2009 at 9:58 pm
i hope the world ends before we play the chargers. because. right now. it is looking REALLY BLEAK.
if you notice after that CABLE punched somebody mess came out.
NOW OUR TEAM IS GOING IN A DOWNWARD SPIRAL.
holy shit i hate myself.
August 19th, 2009 at 9:58 pm
Where is Dude? I hope all is well with him.
August 19th, 2009 at 9:59 pm
Gil, you damn right im negative. I have high expectations for JRuss and so should you. I dont give a damn who is hurt onthe roster off the roster or how the front brass runs things in Alameda. Guy is gonna have to rise above it and make a winner here in Oakland. As of right now I feel our only pray is in the combo of Dmac and Bush. If not then it may get ugly.
You people really think Russell wont get booed at home next week if he stinks it up in SF? If you think not then you are a fukin fool
August 19th, 2009 at 9:59 pm
I listened to Pat Kirwin break Russell down for a long time today. HE went out of his way to not be too hard on the kid but he doesnt paint a pretty picture. Kirwin is not a hater and he was at practice.
August 19th, 2009 at 10:00 pm
I totally understand where Brien is coming from, Priest. I just understand where JRuss is coming from too.
The only thing I carry about is the guy’s arm, and where the ball is going. He is without question the best QB prospect we have had around here in quite some time.
70% pass completions?
As a 1st year starter?
4 TDs, 1 INT?
2 HUGE wins to close the season?
Great game against Dallas?
What more do you want?
August 19th, 2009 at 10:02 pm
Yeah they ran right at them with sweeps and misdirection and endarounds. Yeah right at them, there are ten year old girls that know more about football than some of you guy’s. ridiculous!!
August 19th, 2009 at 10:03 pm
I need to start hearing about consecutive practices of Russell being on target like a potential elite QB of the future. Yall are misunderstanding me because I believe the guy’s potential is through the roof but something aint clicking right now still. Even with Chaz balling out in camp he was still missing people.
August 19th, 2009 at 10:03 pm
Teams havent ran right up the Raiders ass for years?
One reverse. The rest were straight runs. Misdirection plays are part of every teams run package. You dont know WTF your talking about.
August 19th, 2009 at 10:04 pm
Have a great night Gents, Nation.
August 19th, 2009 at 10:07 pm
Russell is a second year starter maybe that fact gets lost on you guy’s. The Kid is learning the position. Does that make any sense or am I speaking a foriegn langage. Do you understand the concept of developing?? it means he’s NOT there yet.
Russell is going to struggle it’s part of the process………..period
August 19th, 2009 at 10:08 pm
like i said way earlier today, it’s practice, practice, we talking about practice, chill out yall
August 19th, 2009 at 10:08 pm
Glad to have Rashad Baker back. Thought he played well last season.
August 19th, 2009 at 10:09 pm
Comwto the saints game bro,…we will have a nice tailgate,…be cool to see Brees,..now thats a qb.
August 19th, 2009 at 10:10 pm
Russells problem is he’s dumb as a stump & lazy. He has the arm any idiot can see that but his accuracy sucks, his deep ball is garbage, he has no pocket presence.
August 19th, 2009 at 10:10 pm
Practice ya,..but the invited the niners to their camp, and got slapped around,..pathetic,..omg wait til san diego shows up,..talk about getting slapped around,..real ugly.
August 19th, 2009 at 10:11 pm
I agree with sistabrown,..even russells long ball sucks.
August 19th, 2009 at 10:12 pm
I want to see some more initiative from Russell. Did you guys read the tweet about Garcia gathering the offense for a scolding? That’s what you need from your starting QB. It shouldn’t be coming from our backup.
August 19th, 2009 at 10:12 pm
You idiot everthing is part of the playbook but if they thought that the Raiders DT’s were soft they would’ve ran straight at them until they stopped it.
THEY DIDN’T!! They attacked the perimeter where they knew they could get yards sure it’s part of their run package but that is not the discussion is it moron?
He said they ran right at them and they did not.
August 19th, 2009 at 10:13 pm
I agree NEWS,..start garcia now,..give him first team reps starting tomorrow.
August 19th, 2009 at 10:14 pm
Did mike taylor tell you that TJ?
August 19th, 2009 at 10:14 pm
Norco you want to tell me where you sit i’ll come by and visit. You can say sistabrown to my face.
Sound good ?
August 19th, 2009 at 10:16 pm
Im tellin you all,..if garcia starts all games we win the superbowl,..beat the saints in overtime. sorry brien.
August 19th, 2009 at 10:16 pm
Lol,..of course…omg I am getting scared now.
August 19th, 2009 at 10:17 pm
Oh,..damn,..mista,..it was a typo,..dang this keyboard,..can you ever forgive?
August 19th, 2009 at 10:19 pm
Listen we can bemoan the sate of the raiders knowing nothing is going to change in the way they are run until Al kicks the bucket. Knowing that, in the mean time I maintain the hope every year that the team somehow manages to surprise me. Like when they made it to the AFC championship in 1990. Never thought that would happen that year and we got there with Jay Schroeder! Hello!!!
You all need to chill out and hope for the best, cause nothings going to change the fact that AL is gonna do what Al is gonna do till the day he dies. I don’t like it either, but I’ll still be there on Monday night hoping to see Bush and the boys bring the pain!
August 19th, 2009 at 10:19 pm
Norco Bob Says:
August 19th, 2009 at 10:09 pm
Comwto the saints game bro,…we will have a nice tailgate,…be cool to see Brees,..now thats a qb.
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Kinda like watching the Falcons game last year, watching Ryan put on a display of how a promising rookie QB should play. I was at the POS of a game last year. Sh1tiest Raider game I’ve been to by far….Oh wait….I take that back….I was at the Monday night opener too.
August 19th, 2009 at 10:21 pm
I only stuck around for second half of that falcons game because I was wanting to see if we would ever geta first down.
August 19th, 2009 at 10:22 pm
Jhill, man you know I know what they are talking about but just because you want it doesn’t mean you get it. The entire passing game is a work in progress. I personally feel what they want wont happen until next year this kid came out of a spread offense as a junior we got lucky and got him.
It will take Russell a lot of reps to get to where they are demanding he be right now. He hasn’t had the reps in real time to see different looks and he’s learning his processions and footwork and his young WR’s not to mention he himself is very young. This is to be expected. As he matures you’ll see him start to set up DB’s and move them with fakes and be more of an orchestrator. That takes tons of reps and film study, this is just a kid trying to make what he knows now work for him.
The rest will come in due time.
August 19th, 2009 at 10:23 pm
Norco Bob Says:
August 19th, 2009 at 10:21 pm
I only stuck around for second half of that falcons game because I was wanting to see if we would ever geta first down.
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Haha. I remember that. We did the same. Our group erupted with *sarcastic* cheers when they finally got one. As did the entire f’n stadium. I’m surprised they didn’t have a riot on their hands that day. What a f’n misery!
August 19th, 2009 at 10:24 pm
Hey Mista dont make fun of me because Im an addict,..its a sickness dude, just like cancer.
August 19th, 2009 at 10:27 pm
Like I said B, I understand what you are saying. I just think, like you admit, you are rushing the kid. His talent is there, and he in one of those guys who has been able to get by on talent alone for his whole career. Hackett and Cable have had nothing but positive things to say about Russell and his progress with understanding what they are teaching him. I tried to tell you that losing Chaz was going to be an issue. You didn’t hear about Russell missing guys that were open, you heard about him throwing picks into tight coverage. Where are the open WRs? It’s practice and he’s trying to find them. Put the ball in tight place and see if they can come up with it. If they do it in practice, maybe he trust them to do it in games like he did Chaz and does Miller.
August 19th, 2009 at 10:37 pm
Said this a couple times usually a reader but i just got madden 10 anyone else have it?
August 19th, 2009 at 10:43 pm
Great game Jhill? Never was it great. No TD pass thrown.
Priest I do agree the defense in the dallas game is being overblown but we have issues with Warren and whoever the MLB is. The defense is a good damn pass defense but the run defense is still behind I’m sure you can agree
August 19th, 2009 at 10:48 pm
Yeah yall have a goodnite. I’m outro
August 19th, 2009 at 10:55 pm
Those that speak the loudest, do so because what they say deserves the least attention.
August 19th, 2009 at 10:56 pm
Im out, i’ll continue this later……………………
August 19th, 2009 at 11:03 pm
I am going to be blunt here.
If Jeff Garcia starts because Russell struggles….I am done. It would be a waste of time to watch a Garcia led team.
Teams with washed up veterans don’t win Super Bowls….they only delay the inevitable restructuring of the team.
So JaMarcus Russell I say this….Get your stuff together and start playing ball! Othewise, I will find something else better to do than to cheer on 7 wins by Jeff Garcia!!!!!!!!!
Dammit…Losing Chaz Schilens hurts badly!
August 19th, 2009 at 11:06 pm
Do us a favor…don’t.
August 19th, 2009 at 11:08 pm
I saw Reece aganist Dallas look like had He some get-up for a full back Lorenzo looked pretty slow will miss the Leadership but need to get the best 53 we can’
As for Russell he is laid back that how he is i heard Schillens taking how he is the same in the huddle calm & cool some guys are like lets go RA RA and others are just lets just play that russells approach nothing wrong with that.. Singaltary is mister hardnose yell master so they did good in practice I did not see anything special aganist Denver we will whip them up Saturday and all the boys will be back saying how good we look ect…
August 19th, 2009 at 11:09 pm
I will say this to boot.
Javon Walker, Gerard Warren, Tommy Kelly, Trevor Scott, Kirk Morrison, Jon Alston, Ricky Brown, Mike Mitchell, Cooper Carlisle and Michael Huff have to step up and be decent enough starters.
Enough with this middling, mediocre, forgettable performances.
I am getting agitated!
August 19th, 2009 at 11:15 pm
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August 19th, 2009 at 11:20 pm
Yea losing chaz makes you feel as if the season is damn near over before it starts. Imagine the texans losing andre johnson, or the bungals losing chad johnson, and the lions losing calvin johnson… Hell anyone of us losing our johnson.lol We’d pretty much be losing out. I believe chaz is that big of a deal, due to the fact that he seems to be the only receiver on the team to have a real rapore with j-russ.
August 19th, 2009 at 11:25 pm
Yea loosing Chaz hurts but if we were counting on a 7th rd pick to take us to the promiseland we are in trouble lets hope Walker(ex pro bowler) comes up big Bey deep clear out Walker across the middle.Chaz hopefully back week 4 San diego we need to be able to run the ball keep from them teeing off on Russell KC & DEN should be wins regaurdless of our WR core..
August 19th, 2009 at 11:35 pm
I hope your right omniscience.Its a shame that a 7th rounder showed us the most promise in helping aid us to the promiseland… I believe that just shows how bad we are at that position.
August 19th, 2009 at 11:38 pm
True That..
August 19th, 2009 at 11:45 pm
This is what happens when you give them all this guaranteed money up front.
JM started walking around dressed like Michael Irvin in the old days and I knew we were in trouble.
I agree that he wouldn’t be in the running if he wasn’t making the most money.
It’s the “We’re paying him the most money so we have to start him.”, mentality.
And what the hill does he care?
He could retire right now and be wealthy the rest of his life.
Then he can just sit around and eat and surf the internet for a new fur coat and some special sunglasses when he outgrows the fur coat he’s got on.
Also, we still need a defensive line that does their job.
If Raiders go 0-2, Garcia starts.
August 19th, 2009 at 11:50 pm
I watched Chronicle Live and they interviewed Russell extensively. He said that losing Chaz was big and that he didn’t want to rush him back but yet did want to rush him back because of the rapore they had was special.
Russell is doing what he neeeds to do to get better as far as the coaches are concerned but no one knows for sure if he will be what they think he will be. Jim Plunkett was interviewed shortly after Russell and Jim was not endorsing Russell but said he thinks he wants to be good but doesn’t know if he will put the work in. He also said that Russell has been very inconsistent in terms of accuracy, sometimes he puts the ball on the money and sometimes misses by a mile. IMO that’s what this kid will do until he feels comfortable about his surroundings. What a WR will do or wont do. And some are just flat out misreads.
That will change with familiarity IMO he had it with Chaz and he trying to get it with the young guy’s but it wont happen over night. The only people that I would take their opinion on Russell verbatum are his position coaches because they see every throw over and over and only they know what that play was supposed to do.
They also interviewed Vernon Davis who’s in his 5th season and he’s not as far along as Russell as a TE. What does that tell ya’ this is a very tough league. It takes many reps to get to where you want to be.
August 19th, 2009 at 11:51 pm
Im guessing its back onto the shoulders of zach miller.
August 19th, 2009 at 11:57 pm
Guy’s what rnd you were drafted in doesn’t mean a damn thing in this league. Trust me how much money you make doesn’t mean diddly. It’s what you do once you get here………..period
If you really want to judge players fairly FORGET where they were drafted and watch what they do at this level. There are just tooo many factors that go into where they were drafted.
The draft is the most overrated and inexact science out there. That’s why it cracks me up when guy’s say we need Dliineman who are drafted in the 1st rnd. And what if it turns out that they stink?
When you get to this level it’s like a different planet. Stats and record and what you did in college means NOTHING, it’s all about can you block DeMarcus Ware one on one?…………..period
August 20th, 2009 at 12:04 am
Chuurch… But priest who do you see stepping up and filling the shoes of chaz on this team right now??
August 20th, 2009 at 12:16 am
Truth be told, after watching Russell’s interview the way he praised Chaz I’m scared as hell. It was as if he was very frustrated because I think the same thing happened last year with his favorite WR.
Javon Walker has to be the guy he has the experience to settle Russell down and give him confidence. JLH also has Russell’s confidence although not quite the size Russell said he likes. And then Murphy and DHB have to step up bigtime. Especially DHB because one thing Russell intimated is that he really wants to get that deep ball working. DHB must become a factor now.
August 20th, 2009 at 12:22 am
True.
DHB will clear the field out.
He only has to catch one long one for ESPN to go crazy and make a big story about how much better he’s doing than Crabstree who isn’t even playing.
Then the db’s will be scared because they hate getting beat deep.
JM may be alright.
But you should practice like you plan on playing.
If you have the power, you gotta use it.
Anything less isn’t living.
August 20th, 2009 at 12:25 am
If the other team’s taunting you, you don’t lay down.
You get ticked play harder.
Anything less is unacceptable.
August 20th, 2009 at 12:41 am
Well let’s see what happens Sat. practice aside eventhough they acquitted themselves in the afternoon If they play well Sat. who’s going to remember practice?
The 49ers obviously wanted to put on a show for the media and now let’s see if they can do it again.
August 20th, 2009 at 12:48 am
I highly doubt the raiders were using the plays they plan to use against the niners on game day… That wouldn’t be very smart. I think tom was just using the time to try new things and see how they work. I don’t see the raiders using those same plays in the next game. Notice all pass plays in the red zone??? Yea… tom was just testing things out.
August 20th, 2009 at 2:57 am
yea its time J>R> shit or get off the pot buddy, i for one wanted adrian anyway. i knew he was not the one after hiss first press cof, he had on like 3mil in jewlry his head is in his ass. im not worried about what happened this day but 3yrs he needs to really get his shit together 50mil J>R> dam!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
August 20th, 2009 at 3:41 am
Norco Bob Says:
August 19th, 2009 at 9:23 pm
Russell wont make through the opener,…after the chargers jump on top 21-0, in the first quarter, Russell will be benched,..for season in place of Garcia.
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wow, Norco…
you’re not thinking Russell will be playing defense, are you???
August 20th, 2009 at 4:08 am
Nation!
Don’t panic! It’s like the bratty young non-athlete kid who intercepts a pass off the star HS quarterback when everybody is out f$%^ing around. Suddenly, little Mr. Non-Athlete thinks he’s all-world, and the HS star doesn’t give a rat’s ass. That’s kinda like the Niners against the Raiders; Silver and Black came out much more focused Wednesday evening.
I am worried about JMarc’s leadership, though (or lack of it). He’s got the goods — he certainly has the arm; but I am not sure that he has the true ability to lead a team, even though everybody is pulling for him to do just that. The vertical passing game Al is trying to assemble depends upon Jmarc … we’ll see what happens — we may have to go back to dink and dunk, with Garcia running the show.
August 20th, 2009 at 4:36 am
Im not worried….Jruss isn’t a practice guy. What I mean by that, he don’t do as well in practice but when in the game he his much better than what beat writters are telling us he is. I believe rich Gannon was the same………damn who am I kiddin lol I hope that is the case with Russell coaches have to work on this guys footwork if he is having this much issues with his accuracy
August 20th, 2009 at 5:22 am
Rise and muthafkn shine nation!!!!! I didn’t think shilens was gonna have surgery. Speedy recovery buddy…….Hey Jerry Mac how about you lets us know how super mario is doing?! No news is good news I guess??? Im sure we would all love to hear that Mario is out there crushing guys and protecting Russells blind side like a naval envoy
August 20th, 2009 at 5:33 am
I think the niners put on a show for Singletary he dosen’t seem the type you don’t give 100% for. How good does jruss have to be to ever get over not drafting Adrian Peterson that guy is so sick
August 20th, 2009 at 5:37 am
Im still confused about the release of big Neal. I know Oneal is back but man according to what JMac wrote O’neal had to have his freaking Hammy attached back in place to his thigh bone? I mean OMFG!! I would have kept him on just for insurance purpose, wow simply incredible. Big props for O’neal getting back but im very weary
August 20th, 2009 at 5:45 am
I know Chaz played very good 2 end the season…but so did JLH.JLH will blow-up the nfl this year,imo.Let Chaz heal completly…like I said B4 we will B better 4 it when Chaz returns.The real ???? is what will our D-line do?
August 20th, 2009 at 5:50 am
Yeah ur right 4eva, good morning btw. The Dline is still a huge quetion mark for the franchise. Scott was good as a situational pass rusher but he’s simply not big or strong enough to start. We must have Richardson in there on his side and use scott on passing downs as last year when the like gets worn down
August 20th, 2009 at 5:52 am
Good Morning Nation!!!
August 20th, 2009 at 5:53 am
Yo HWNRDR what’s good man?! Another great day in Raider Nation!
August 20th, 2009 at 6:04 am
What’s up Dirty?! Its always a good day in the Nation!!!
Morning 4eva, NMF, Tbone…
August 20th, 2009 at 6:06 am
Morning Hwnrdr bro!!!
August 20th, 2009 at 6:18 am
GOOD MORNING SPORT’S FAN’S,HELL WITH THIS ON-FIELD STUFF, WHAT IS GOING ON WITH THE CHEER LEADERS ?NEW RULE..EVERY SSN-TKT HOLDER GET’S A DAY WITH ONE CHEER LEADER…
August 20th, 2009 at 6:22 am
* And yet another Davis TD on Jerome Boyd. MLB Ricky Brown cussing mad at someone for not “covering their grass.”
* Someone better be able to cover a big TE, the division’s got a few.
* Very next play: Davis outruns Tyvon Branch for another TD. John Marshall: “Use your speed!”
* Ugh. Vernon Davis goes up and over THoward and Hiram Eugene for skinny post TD. Didn’t know it was coming.
-David White (twitter)
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I agree with Jhill. it looks like our SS is still on TE duty and now that Huff has been converted to FS nobody can cover the TE. Branch, Eugene & Boyd got smoked by Vernon “bust” Davis while Huff is known for shutting down stud TE’s like Gates & Gonzalez
glad we resigned Rashad Baker. hopefully he can kick some of these useless bums off the roster!
nice to see Ricky Brown showing some leadership too!
August 20th, 2009 at 6:29 am
Darrius Heyward-Bey made a pair of nice grabs, one from Gradkowski and another difficult catch from Jeff Garcia on a crossing route.
Cable on Heyward-Bey’s progress: “I see his progression, how to release, how to run routes much better. Now it’s just getting him confident that he’s going to catch every ball. Not most of them, but every ball.”
Heyward-Bey did have one drop in the afternoon session, admittedly on a pass by Russell which was slightly behind him and thrown at a high velocity.
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so my boy DHB dropped one ball and it was Russell’s fault. haha. Heyward-Bey is going to be a stud in this league. quit with the “can’t catch” hoopla. no need to hate on him.
August 20th, 2009 at 6:34 am
I hear ya Rockstar!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
August 20th, 2009 at 6:34 am
I’m shocked we cut Lorenzo Neal!
Kiffin said he wasn’t a fit for the zbs, but Jerry Mac was reporting he’s the best blocking FB/RB we have!
so you cut your best run blocker and pass protector in favor of a young cat who spent all of last season on IR and still isn’t 100 percent?
dumb move. what Neal provided in leadership alone would have been an asset to this team. Hope Lawton, Gary Russell & Marcel Reece can get the job done in camp & preseason so that Oren O’Neal is ready when we need him – Week 1 on MNF
August 20th, 2009 at 6:36 am
I agree Dirt Lot…how about every season ticket holder gets a cheerleader at his tailgating festivities!!! But how would you spread that around? Haha!
Morning Rockstar,
I don’t know why Huff wasn’t covering Gonzo last year when it was clear that he always covered the TE’s well. I don’t remember…did Huff even play that game?
August 20th, 2009 at 6:37 am
we’re going to be a run first team…
the staff already knows this…
and they don’t need to prove it in pre-season…
what they do want to work on is the passing game…
because they won’t be doing that much of it in the regular season… (i hope)…
so the pass heavy stuff we’re seeing now is prep only for the regular season…
it won’t be what we will see…
i’m guessing 35% pass, 65% run…
which, by the way, is what we did in the 70’s…
August 20th, 2009 at 6:38 am
Cornbread Green got poked in the eye?
49er players better hope he don’t bring a mop out on to the field …
thats a lethal weapon for our RT!
August 20th, 2009 at 6:42 am
I don’t know why Huff wasn’t covering Gonzo last year when it was clear that he always covered the TE’s well. I don’t remember…did Huff even play that game?
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Huff played FS in the 1st game last year. Gibril Wilson was on Gonzo.
2nd game we played against them Huff was in the doghouse. Hiram Eugene was starting at FS
Nnamdi Asomugha was covering Gonzo all game long. CJ was on Bowe.
August 20th, 2009 at 6:43 am
oh, 65% run means we really will be needing 3 backs…
65% run is about 40 running plays per game…
that is way too heavy a load for one guy…
i say… 1st half Bush… using DMac wherever else…
2nd half… Dmac runs the rock…
Fargas spells either of them after long runs…
August 20th, 2009 at 6:47 am
I know, and Nnamdi was getting beat by Gonzo(not all the time, but when it mattered)…Dog house or not, you gotta know your best players on certain situations…But who are we, right? Just fans…
August 20th, 2009 at 6:47 am
Green would mop-up the field vs.49er’s,imo =)
August 20th, 2009 at 6:49 am
Nice post 181 Pete =)
August 20th, 2009 at 6:49 am
* Leading tackler Kirk Morrison very well could be making more plays that show up on film, but challenger Ricky Brown keeps making more plays that show up to the untrained eye in practice.
Brown ran with the first-team defense and made two leaping deflections — one on a blitz, another defending the middle.
He also shows much more fire than Morrison, cursing a teammate out loud to “cover your … grass” after a touchdown pass.
This is the one position that seems truly open to competition.
* Strongside linebacker Jon Alston gets lost and beat in coverage, but he packs a punch.
Two times, he put fullback Moran Norris on the ground — once when Moran tried to block his run blitz, another when he tried to block his pass blitz.
Both hits fired up his teammates to the point of holler. Nice to see someone on the Raiders respond to the Niners’ screamfest.
* Defensive end Greg Ellis gets to the quarterback, plain and simple. He forced one to scramble on an edge rush, then tapped another quarterback for a sack before he could get his feet settled in the pocket.
Easily the defensive acquisition of the offseason.
-David White (SF Gate)
August 20th, 2009 at 6:53 am
Nnamdi was getting beat by Gonzo(not all the time, but when it mattered)…Dog house or not, you gotta know your best players on certain situations…But who are we, right? Just fans…
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yeah. I saw that too. Gonzo boxed out Nnamdi like a power forward going up for a rebound.
If it isn’t Huff’s job to cover the TE’s anymore as the FS we need somebody at SS who can or Gates & Scheffler will eat us alive in 4 games this season. you hearing me Tyvon?
August 20th, 2009 at 6:53 am
Man getting Ellis seems like an ecxellent move already.Dburg who???
August 20th, 2009 at 6:54 am
ecx=THAIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII
August 20th, 2009 at 6:56 am
if it takes Chaz Schilens 4-6 weeks for a recovery, it’ll take him at least another week or two to get some conditioning in, run routes, catch balls and take some laps. make sure the thing is 100 percent.
I still think he’ll start on the PUP list and be ready to start after the bye week
August 20th, 2009 at 6:59 am
signing DB Rashad Baker means what?
1. Hiram Eugene is cut
2. Michael Huff is cut
3. Mike Mitchell on the PUP list
4. Manning, Bowie, Brown, Horton & Boyd aren’t getting the job done
August 20th, 2009 at 7:00 am
Yeah man I would have cut lawtons ass in a heartbeat to keep Neal, I thought he was already gone lol damn im pissed. Good point RR about his leadership, Garcia is not trying to be that and Neal gladly took that role. Cable what are you guys thinking? Lawton and Russell would be gone if it were up to me
August 20th, 2009 at 7:04 am
ok, so i wanna put this Q out to the nation…
how do we feel about trading jamarcus, let garcia have roughly 2 seasons as our starter, while we develop one of our other 2 qb’s who, admittedly look just as good as russel. do we lose anything by this? i think garcia GREATLY helps our offense, maybe not more than 2or 3 years though, and take the time to maybe let charlie develop into our longterm QB. do we NEED jamarcus anymore? does HE need us, maybe a fresh start would help him too… seems to me it would benefit both sides…whats the nation think?
August 20th, 2009 at 7:09 am
Luke Lawton was a practice squad player from Indy & Philly when we signed him. He started out pretty bad last year, but as the season progressed and he learned the zbs he got better & better. He blocked for Bush in the Tampa Bay game. He’s a good ST player too, which is nice so that Oren O’Neal doesn’t have to fill that role any longer.
Reece is a utility player. RB, FB, WR, TE (sort of like Wakefield last year)
Gary Russell is just a big running back. moving him to FB is like the Michael Pittman to FB experiment Denver tried (before 7 RB’s landed on IR there. haha)
Here’s my beef: I understand you have a 53 man roster cutdown coming up rather quickly. Neal would have been the last guy I parted ways with and the first guy I get on the phone if an injury occurs
August 20th, 2009 at 7:10 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
August 20th, 2009 at 6:59 am
signing DB Rashad Baker means what?
1. Hiram Eugene is cut
2. Michael Huff is cut
3. Mike Mitchell on the PUP list
4. Manning, Bowie, Brown, Horton & Boyd aren’t getting the job done
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5.All the above maybe
August 20th, 2009 at 7:11 am
1SD I think that’s a stupid thought to trade russell. A fresh start with a 40 year old QB that takes a month to heal from a Calf bruise?!? Are you serious?!? Lol man im not ready to give up on russsell because of what people say he’s not doing well in PRACTICE, wait untill the regular season that’s when it matters. I think he’s a winner and he will prove many doubters wrong. Garcia is not and never be the answer. He can’t even throw an out pass on a comeback route without the ball hitting the ground!
August 20th, 2009 at 7:15 am
I hope that Marshall can get the D out of the slump of 6 years not stopping anyone but the pass…Just hoping for the best!
August 20th, 2009 at 7:15 am
soldier: I’m not ready to trade Russell. the kid only has 16 NFL starts under his belt. he has potential, but at this point is still unproven. I expect him to make progress this year with better coaching, a better o-line and a better WR corps and another year of experience.
does he need to step it up? certainly …
is it time to throw in the towel? not even close …
give him AT LEAST 2009 & 2010 before throwing around the “b word” . taking him 1st overall we really mortgaged our future on this youngster. hope it pans out!
August 20th, 2009 at 7:19 am
yea DirtyBathWater , i feel you man,
but, jamarcus is gonna take ATLEAST another 2to3 seasons,realistically, i watch every game, and follow every practice as much as possible…ive been one of jamarcus’s strongest supporters from the beginning, but, i feel it would b best for HIM too… something has to click..motivation? well, showing up to camp every year lookin like a dunkin doughnut isnt promising either… he has a bright future, but, …and garcia as our starter will guarantee a return to respectability, even w schillens out, he WILL make our receivers better… and we have frye who has dramatically increased his value in our system… so, do we shoot for 8 or more wins and develop another QB for POST garcia? …or do we continue to TALK about russel MAYBE puttin it all together? i for one am TIRED of getting excited around camptime, and then fall off the tree branch when the season starts…either way, i’ve been w the raiders since my ol man had me wearin eagles bedsheets in 1st grade…imalifer!!!
August 20th, 2009 at 7:20 am
1soldierdaddy…
You raised a lot of good questions that I’m sure the whole NATION has an opinion …
Even tho Jmac shot himself and the NATION in the foot gy holding-out
Even tho Jmac appears 2 be l-a-z-y
Even tho Jmac appeard not 2 care
Even tho Jmac wears extremly loud bling
Jmac is still a kid and Oh My Gawd his up-side is is through the sky
He handles game pressure good 4 his age.I would give him this whole year,add it up and go from there.
I’m no-way giving up on him…so far
August 20th, 2009 at 7:27 am
thanks for serving our country man.
representing our nation and the raider nation at the same time!
much props to you bro.
August 20th, 2009 at 7:27 am
WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
1sd…Way 2 represent DA NATION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
August 20th, 2009 at 7:29 am
If anyone saw Jamarcus on chron live,…wow,..not nfl ready,..whimpering little crybaby,…bench him now.
August 20th, 2009 at 7:29 am
4evaRaider….
good point bra’….i agree…but, as a jmac supporter, i wanna see someone push him more…does that mean a good OFF season, and staying in shape? does that mean ex practice in offseason…more film time….???
wish i had the answers, but, not sure anymore…one would have thought he would b EXCITED about this season, one would have thought he’d put EVERYTHING into his offseason to come in the right shape, both mentally and physically…although, gotta admit… he scambles niiiiiicely for his size… just imagine if he was in game shape already
August 20th, 2009 at 7:31 am
LMFO!!!!! He comes to camp looking like a Dunkin Doughnut!!!!!! Damn man that’s funny I feel ya brotha. I been a Raider Fan my whole life, we’ve been loosing so much lately we want a quick turn around but it don’t happen like that…. its gonna take time for Russell time to develop, mind you playing QB is the hardest postion to play, we just have to be patient.2 yrs to really get a grasp of what he will be…….it took 21 4 years before the “light ” came on for him Russell is no different from anyone else comming from college to pros. To develop and get acustomed to the pro level that is.
August 20th, 2009 at 7:33 am
yea, the nation woulda been proud…even though my troopers arent all part of the nation, they all had their silver and black flyin from their vehicles…some awesome pics guys… kinda morphed into my platoons symbol…runnin over an insurgents front gates w the silver and black flowin on top was best pic!!!
August 20th, 2009 at 7:35 am
Yeah much respect 1SD and love brother thank you for your service! I really hope JRuss make big strides this year, we are all pulling for him and our Team as a whole
August 20th, 2009 at 7:37 am
Morning Nation,
Here’s what I think of the whiners:
http://righttruth.typepad.com/.shared/image.html?/photos/uncategorized/2008/01/29/animatedpoosteamingclr.gif
August 20th, 2009 at 7:38 am
Steaming pile of Cr-p!
August 20th, 2009 at 7:39 am
That Russell interview on chron live was hard to watch,…you guys should go check it out on demand,..tell me you dont want someone else starting after that.
August 20th, 2009 at 7:41 am
norco bob…
was jmac THAT bad on chron live…?
August 20th, 2009 at 7:41 am
That steaming pile,..thats what the niners made the raiders look like in napa.
August 20th, 2009 at 7:42 am
Soldier it was worse then awful.
August 20th, 2009 at 7:42 am
By the way thanks for your awesome service.
August 20th, 2009 at 7:45 am
1SD…
All things in perspective i.e…
All our RB’s were injured at 1 time or another last year.
We used 3 diffrent centers last year and that was I think the most damaging aspect of our team.
Curry droped everything
We didnt have any WR’s till they let JLH and Chaz play
The TREACHERY of lame kiffin yes the 5-15 lame kiffin
2 me it looks like our O-line will be MUCH improved under Cable,a O-lineman himself,just like Madden
I think Jmac will be much improved because the whole Offence is improved
Wish him the best this year the kid’s got a chance 2B the greatest,imo
August 20th, 2009 at 7:46 am
priesttj Says:
August 19th, 2009 at 10:12 pm
You idiot everthing is part of the playbook but if they thought that the Raiders DT’s were soft they would’ve ran straight at them until they stopped it.
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Yep, I don’t think teams have run at all against our stout DTs the past two season…we were 31st against the run in 2008 giving up 2,555 yards all on reverses and other trick plays! And we were 31st in the NFL in 2007 giving up 2,334 yards for the same reasons!
Other NFL teams really fear Warren and Kelly!
Lol…or not.
Get real.
August 20th, 2009 at 7:48 am
Why would we want to trade Russell now? He had a pretty good game vs. the Cowgirls he is just developing his game. It is early man and it is preseason. For crying out loud these plays are occuring during goal line drills.
Why would you wan to trade a player just when he is developing and miss out on his prime years. This microwave have it now way of thinking will be the down fall of this nation. Sometimes you have to sweat and struggle through situations to be successful.
Give him some dvelopment time. Farve is playing in with the Vikings now as an old man. Everyone wants to start his journey in Greenbay. But it really started in Atlanta with the Falcons who dumped the big armed MVP who is Canton bound.
Give the youth some time to develop. I am pumped!
August 20th, 2009 at 7:50 am
well, i appreciate the many thanx, i get em all the time, but…truth is…if i wasnt kickin down doors in someone else’s country…id prob b flippin burgers 4 a livin,or cleanin zoo animal pooo, …im not the sharpest point on the pencil so to say, but, i love my job, sux at times, and still love it…but, dmn y’all… i just wanna see the silver and black get some DMN respect this season, from espn, and all the haters…just to have them ADMIT we got game ya know…
August 20th, 2009 at 7:51 am
1soldierdaddy Says:
August 20th, 2009 at 7:04 am
ok, so i wanna put this Q out to the nation…
how do we feel about trading jamarcus, let garcia have roughly 2 seasons as our starter, while we develop one of our other 2 qb’s who, admittedly look just as good as russel. do we lose anything by this? i think garcia GREATLY helps our offense, maybe not more than 2or 3 years though, and take the time to maybe let charlie develop into our longterm QB. do we NEED jamarcus anymore? does HE need us, maybe a fresh start would help him too… seems to me it would benefit both sides…whats the nation think?
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right now… right this very minute…
no-one is going to trade anything for Russell…
unless the Raiders pay half his contract…
August 20th, 2009 at 7:53 am
I don’t know about Russell being the greatest, I can live with real good
August 20th, 2009 at 7:54 am
I hear ya CJ and I am pumped 2!!! Man every since Cable showed how ita gonna be…my adrenaline hasnt stopped.Man if I could bottle my adrenaline it’d be light’s-out time LOL…Same wid da whole NATION!!!!!
August 20th, 2009 at 7:55 am
1st overall pick,..65 million,..and you will settle for real good,.ok…how pathetic.
August 20th, 2009 at 7:56 am
Cable is an idiot, Russell sucks…Im really unsure what the hell 4eva is so pumped about.
August 20th, 2009 at 7:56 am
lmao
August 20th, 2009 at 8:02 am
Yeah smae thing happened to steve young who was dumped from tampa to the whiners
August 20th, 2009 at 8:02 am
I guess I dunno Bob…I wish I had a first hand view like you and the other lucky-ones that do get 2C first-hand.Well on the other hand with the exception of Chaz we are not injured this year…ALL RB’S are healthy.The departure of Grove and the addition of Satele.The emergence of JLH and Chaz…2me it hasnt looked this promising in 7 years and I got lots of enthusiasm 4 da Raiders.But still I wish I could be in Napa 2 really see
August 20th, 2009 at 8:09 am
well, mabye norco woke up on wrong side of bed this morning, but, norco is on alot of posts, and, long timer ya know… sheet…im grumpy when i have decaf too!!! i gotta agree w him a lil man… jmac HELD OUT as a rookie…the nation is CONSTANTLY batterin niners fans for their STAR…(cough**hack-hack**) receiver doin the SAME THING … not once has jmac TRIED to do the LITTLE THINGs …get in shape, ex time in offseason, STUDYING the game… nothing man, and, TRUE.. hes got a HUGE upside…but, i feel he’ll never achieve it UNTIL he WANTS TOO… he’s not hungry guys…face it..enough of the HOPING and DREAMING…our team is paying him alot of $$$…b a professional and DO YOUR DMN JOB!!! THESE GUYS ARE MILLIONAIRES for playing a GAME…i love it, but i hate it…
August 20th, 2009 at 8:10 am
Come on guys, Russell need time. He, Al Davis and Kiffin fuked his rookie season up, so he is a little behind schedule. For a first time starter, I thought he played okay last season. Quit judging him against guys like Flacco and Ryan, they are freaks. Most QBs take two or three years to develop.
If some of you fools had your way look at the QBs you would have cut or traded after their first relevant starting experience:
P. Manning: 56% comp 28 ints
McNabb: 58% 13 ints
Elway: 47.5% 14ints to only 7 TDs
(I could just hear you now…Man, I wish we hadn’t traded for Elway, the Colts robbed us blind!)
Now look at Russell’s first year starting: 53.8% 13TDs only 8 ints
Not so bad when you put it into perspective. Plus, just look at the fools he has had surrounding him the past two years! One of the most inept coaching staffs ever assembled! Few, if any WR options his first year starting. An o-line that was awful until Cable pulled his head out of his ass and put Henderson in!
Listen, I too see that Russell seems to lack the fire and work ethic that will make him an ELITE NFL QB…I mean I have certainly been on his ass for skipping offseason training and for showing up looking like the stay-puft marshmallow man, but I still think he should be afforded every opportunity to be our QB. On talent alone I think he can be a decent to above average starter if he gets his weight under control and learns just a little bit of work ethic.
If he improves just slightly from his 2008 numbers and show some signs, that is enough for me to give him the 2010 season as well. If he falls flat on his face in 2009, then we cut him in the uncapped year and draft another young QB to groom. If that happens this franchise will be set back once again, so I am all for giving Russell a lot of rope.
August 20th, 2009 at 8:10 am
LMFAO!!!!!Raidertw funny man, I know bob just blurt out crazy stuff to get a kick out of the reaction of others lol sht he even sucked me in a few days ago with his madness! He’s too funny man
August 20th, 2009 at 8:16 am
I’m reading these comments about Russel “sucking” and our team getting embarrassed in a scrimage.
I agree that if Russel doesn’t produce..he needs to sit on the bench. Its obvious that first year staring QBs can win in this league (brady, rothlesburger, m. ryan, flacco). So no excuses..either you produce or you watch from the sidelines.
Sux about Chaz..he was going to have nice breakout year. No matter who was throwing the ball.
Also..Mike Mitchell? OBVOUSLY A BUST! Hamstring? I think he went out there and realized he was waaaaay out of his league. So say you got a hamstring problem and aviod the ridicule..because he knows everyone is going to laugh at him ..b/c AL davis has lost his freakn mind!
August 20th, 2009 at 8:23 am
Wow, Plaxico enter a guilty plea to a lesser charge and the state will be recommending a 2 year prison sentence. Sentencing is scheduled for Sep 22nd. He could be out in 20 months if he behaves himself.
His career might be over…isn’t he 34 right now?
August 20th, 2009 at 8:25 am
Practice isn’t the same as game day. It’s practice, there have been a lot of hall of fame practice players that fail on game day. When the bullets start flying for real is when you find out who’s worth keeping and who’s not.
August 20th, 2009 at 8:26 am
Plax is 31 and will be 33 when released. Get out a fork he’s done.
August 20th, 2009 at 8:26 am
Plaxico Burress pleaded guilty Thursday to a weapons charge and agreed to a two-year prison term
With time off for good behavior the sentence could be reduced to 20 months.
Plax is 31 years old. Think he’ll try to make a comeback at 33 years old after 2 years away from the game?
My advice: get enrolled into Tony Dungy’s mentor program now!
August 20th, 2009 at 8:26 am
darn it. you guys beat me to it!
haha
August 20th, 2009 at 8:27 am
Good post Dakata. Few QB’s excell in their first 2 yrs. Game slows down in 3rd yr. Give Russell the tools like WR’s, and RB’s that can catch the ball. Guess that means splinters for Fargus.
August 20th, 2009 at 8:28 am
Exactly Dakota …
It is just amazing to me that some of you want to pull the plug on Russell. He is at worst a decent starter RIGTH NOW. You complain about his weight and his appearance as a reason to pull the plug? What about the production of the field? Actual game play?
Why would you want to develop Frye and not Russell? We should have easily been 8-8 last year with any help from the defense. The way he finished the season (70% completions, 4TDs, 1 pick, 2 big wins) and how he looked against Dallas, and you want to pull the plug?
No offense to anyone, but that is just LUNACY to me! When have we had a young QB that we can develop and have for TEN YEARS or more. Charlie Frye?!?!?!?!?
August 20th, 2009 at 8:28 am
LMAO RR
August 20th, 2009 at 8:29 am
Oh, Plax isn’t as old as I thought.
Too bad he faught the charges (that he was so obviously guilty of) and didn’t accept this deal back in January or February…he might have been out in time to salvage the 2010 season.
August 20th, 2009 at 8:29 am
Can’t call mitchell a bust you haven’t given him a chance to “produce” lets see what he can do b4 labeling him a bust please
August 20th, 2009 at 8:32 am
RENTON, Wash. (AP) Nine-time Pro Bowl left tackle Walter Jones of the Seattle Seahawks will have his second knee operation in eight months.
The 35-year-old Jones will have arthroscopic surgery on his left knee Thursday morning in Seattle. Jones had microfracture surgery on the same knee in December. He has missed all but three days of practice in training camp.
The anchor of Seattle’s offensive line for the last decade tried to practice Monday but left midway through the session.
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Dakota: hey, at least we’re not the only team who was stupid enough to pass on Eugene Monroe!
August 20th, 2009 at 8:32 am
Apparently influenced by news of Patrick Kane’s run-in with a cab driver and/or the resurrection of punter Todd Sauerbrun’s career (UFL style), who once laid hands on Latka, Bucs cornerback Aqib Talib ended up in jail on two misdemeanor counts for — you guessed it — an altercation with a cabbie.
Allegedly.
The Florida Highway Patrol has issued a press release explaining that the initial call came from I-275 at Gandy Boulevard in Tampa, where a cab driver said he was receiving verbal threats from the occupants of his vehicle.
Though the cabbie said nothing about being Tom Cabled by Talib when reporting the incident, the driver apparently said once cops arrived that he’d been punched knocked out his chair by Talib.
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Guess any problem has a TC reference, LMFAO
August 20th, 2009 at 8:33 am
OOPS, from PFT/NBC
August 20th, 2009 at 8:33 am
its the wild wild west =)
August 20th, 2009 at 8:34 am
fought….man me spellin’ aint so gud tooday!
August 20th, 2009 at 8:34 am
Good Morning Raider O !!!
August 20th, 2009 at 8:35 am
True Rockstar…but it doesn’t make me feel any better about it, lol.
August 20th, 2009 at 8:40 am
Check interview on comcast sportsnet better and more insight to russell think you will fill better
August 20th, 2009 at 8:44 am
omniscience Says:
August 20th, 2009 at 8:40 am
Check interview on comcast sportsnet better and more insight to russell think you will fill better
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Whats the link?
August 20th, 2009 at 8:44 am
Why didn’t Cable just KO Lance last year in camp? It would have been awesome to see the Kitten complaining about our weak roster with a swolled eye and a fat lip.
“I’m In (until I’m knocked out)”
August 20th, 2009 at 8:55 am
Can i get the link to the JRUSS interview?
August 20th, 2009 at 9:00 am
Letterman punked Favre last night, lol
August 20th, 2009 at 9:09 am
GUYS CAN I PLEASE GET THE LINK TO THE JRUSS INTERVIEW??????
PLEASE!!!!!
August 20th, 2009 at 9:10 am
http://csnbayarea.com/pages/raiders
Check it out good insight
August 20th, 2009 at 9:12 am
omniscience Says:
August 20th, 2009 at 9:10 am
http://csnbayarea.com/pages/raiders
Check it out good insight
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Good Looking out NATION Bretheren…
August 20th, 2009 at 9:14 am
this is the iterview i saw i think there isanother one cause i dont see no big panic stage all these guys are writing about?
August 20th, 2009 at 9:16 am
I’d like to buy the world a home and furnish it with love,
Grow apple trees and honey bees, and snow white turtle doves.
I’d like to teach the world to sing in perfect harmony,
I’d like to buy the world a Coke and keep it company.
August 20th, 2009 at 9:16 am
Where can I go to see that interview w/ JR?
And how in the hill can I be posting comments too quickly when it’s the first one today?
August 20th, 2009 at 9:18 am
Respect for the enemy?!??! Terrorist?!?! Nah bro your on your own on that one. Can’t rap my brain around that statement
August 20th, 2009 at 9:21 am
terrorists are cowards. if they want a dictatorship, why don’t they come out and declare war on Isreal or America or whoever they wish? why hide? if dying for your cause gets you a kudos in the afterlife, why not just come out and fight? I understand strategy, but roadside bombs on innocent people who aren’t even considered enemies is such a pansy thing to do. I wish they would all just unite, gather allies and declare war on America so we could demolish them in one foul swoop. then they could all gather in the afterlife I like to call H3LL
August 20th, 2009 at 9:22 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
August 20th, 2009 at 9:15 am
it makes no sense for people to come to our country and enjoy freedom, while trashing the people who fight to preserve it
it things are so great in your country, why’d you move here? go back …
people from other countries are welcome here if they become citizens and respect our culture, language, history, as well as all laws. many foreigners appreciate USA after coming here. the ones who don’t should be shipped back on thier own dime
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I have 100% respect for the work that 1soldierdaddy does. Without him their would be no USA.
At the same time RR, I dont think its about if you dont appreciate the USA, and its soldiers go home.
I thinks its about respecting ALL people, period.
August 20th, 2009 at 9:23 am
ok. i’m done
Raider O & soldier are both friends
on to Raider football
O: you think signing Rashad Baker hurts Huff’s chance of making the team?
August 20th, 2009 at 9:28 am
I heard that the camel spiders follow you around because they like to stay in your shade.
Isn’t this a Raider blog?
Where’s that JMR interview link?
No link but lots about payeetriohtizm.
Isn’t there a blog at Foxnews?
August 20th, 2009 at 9:28 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
August 20th, 2009 at 9:23 am
ok. i’m done
Raider O & soldier are both friends
on to Raider football
O: you think signing Rashad Baker hurts Huff’s chance of making the team?
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RR my Brother you are on a diffrent brand of Kool aid.
Huff aint going no where. The NATION has a program called “scholarship”.
August 20th, 2009 at 9:30 am
I think Eugene is in trouble Huff is the only one covering TE Gonzo,Gates,Danils ect did really nothing aganist us last year maybe new Defense will help him did have pick in pre season opener everyone else looked lost (safetys)Boyd looked alright..
August 20th, 2009 at 9:33 am
you are on a diffrent brand of Kool aid.
Huff aint going no where. The NATION has a program called “scholarship”.
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LOL.
Thec: you think Huff is on scholarship?
I thought Hiram Eugene was the only Raiders safety who got a Valentine’s Day card from Tom Cable!
somebody may have spiked my Kool-Aid? at least it doesn’t taste like p1ss …
August 20th, 2009 at 9:34 am
where’d norco bob go? havent heard from him in a bit?
hahaha, someone actually made a comment about me and norco actually being same person, …i know norco likes to razzle everyones brains…but, ur climbin the wrong tree branch there…
as far as huff going somewhere…not yet guys… although, the bench isnt too far away….
oh, and, w the jmac and garcia talk, no one has mentioned who we keep as our #3…any thoughts?
charlie imo
August 20th, 2009 at 9:35 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
August 20th, 2009 at 9:33 am
you are on a diffrent brand of Kool aid.
Huff aint going no where. The NATION has a program called “scholarship”.
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LOL.
Thec: you think Huff is on scholarship?
I thought Hiram Eugene was the only Raiders safety who got a Valentine’s Day card from Tom Cable!
somebody may have spiked my Kool-Aid? at least it doesn’t taste like p1ss …
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ROFLMAO………..
That reminds me of the guy with thw coffee pot….
August 20th, 2009 at 9:36 am
omniscience: I hope Hiram Eugene is in trouble, but I’m not so sure
Jerry Mac reports that Eugene has outplayed Huff all offseason long. Always a step late, giving up the completion.
However, Nnamdi & Kirk say Huff is the most improved player this offseason, poised for a breakout season. that play against Dallas was pretty sweet
August 20th, 2009 at 9:38 am
Huff aint going no where. The NATION has a program called “scholarship”.
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I agree there is a scholarship but i’m not convinced Huff is on it.. The only way i see Huff sticking is if Mitchell’s injury is long term and/or Branch doesn’t pick up FS as well as he has SS.. The only other FS on the roster besides Eugene is Huff..
August 20th, 2009 at 9:40 am
oh, and, w the jmac and garcia talk, no one has mentioned who we keep as our #3…any thoughts?
charlie imo
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Agreed. Jerry Mac reports Charlie Frye looks like the best QB in camp. Gradkowski played well against Dallas, but has been stinking it up most offseason long and especially in practice against the 49ers
Russell/Garcia/Frye. If somebody gets hurt Graddy can stay or better yet give the intern Danny “the stormin’ mormon” Southwick a shot
August 20th, 2009 at 9:41 am
If I had to deal with camel spiders, I’d probably be cutting people’s heads off too!
August 20th, 2009 at 9:43 am
The only other FS on the roster besides Eugene is Huff..
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Sac: Rashad Baker is listed as a FS, but Cable said he was a good “third safety after Branch got hurt and solid ST player” – not sure what that means, just a depth guy?
August 20th, 2009 at 9:45 am
Kell: low class?
sort of like a G@y loving democrat calling a married republican in the midwest a f@ggot?
makes no sense. not classy at all either.
August 20th, 2009 at 9:46 am
Dont worry bout me,..im getting high, drinkin brandy,..have a gladys knight cd on.
August 20th, 2009 at 9:47 am
erased part of my text..sorry…
meant to say that men and women who have negative thoughts toward another race are taught to overcome that sheet…alot of times, just getting to KNOW the other person can do alot to teach our younger generation…
August 20th, 2009 at 9:47 am
wannaberocker,..dont trip on kell,..he is one of those guys that feels hes owed something,..discriminated against,..hes troubled, give him sympathy, thats what he wants.
August 20th, 2009 at 9:48 am
by the way garcia should start all year and he should groom either grad or frye for 2010.
August 20th, 2009 at 9:49 am
well norco…i must b low class then…cuz i got my green fired up and a rum n coke…n’er had the gumption to try brandy though…
August 20th, 2009 at 9:49 am
But, I’m not mad at ya Rockstar. People only do as well as they know how. Where you were raised, your education and travel experience or experience with other peoples, controls.
August 20th, 2009 at 9:50 am
when russell gets benched kell will be in here crying racism.
August 20th, 2009 at 9:50 am
alright norco, i’ll leave him alone
so Bobby, soldier thinks Jeff Garcia should start and could possibly be a Pro Bowler if given the reigns.
your thoughts?
August 20th, 2009 at 9:51 am
soldier, I have brandy in my coffee,..smokin some purps,..poppin a few norcos,…heading to the river.
August 20th, 2009 at 9:51 am
as I have always said, if garcia plays all year we win the superbowl. if russell plays all year its 3-13
August 20th, 2009 at 9:52 am
when russell gets benched kell will be in here crying racism.
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Agreed, but who will be racist? Al Davis or Tom Cable?
we might even hear it if Ricky Brown beats out Kirk Morrison for the MLB job!
August 20th, 2009 at 9:52 am
Sac: Rashad Baker is listed as a FS, but Cable said he was a good “third safety after Branch got hurt and solid ST player” – not sure what that means, just a depth guy?
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Yeah, i know our safeties are supposed to be interchangeable but i thought the FS should always have more speed than the SS and i didn’t think Baker had that speed.. Never know tho.. Funny how he mentions Baker being a 3rd safety, and Eugene and Branch the starters, where does that leave Huff? 4th safety?
August 20th, 2009 at 9:54 am
look, kell you see coming from miles away, when he loses his debates, as he always does, he cries racism,…thats his only out in an argument,..and he always loses.
August 20th, 2009 at 9:55 am
Norco Bob Says:
August 20th, 2009 at 9:48 am
by the way garcia should start all year and he should groom either grad or frye for 2010.
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Wow best idea I’ve heard in a long time! Every time the Raiders start an old vet to groom and old back-up it always results in wins.
Good idea ya fyckin addict. What a douche.
August 20th, 2009 at 9:55 am
There you go again kell, guessing, and guessing wrong,..and I have never lived in Sac….but would over bay area any day.
August 20th, 2009 at 9:55 am
too much man….hahaha, your too much norco…so what does brandy in coffee do…DMN…now i really am sounding low class…oops!!
by the way rockstar…thnx for the luv earlier bra’…
kept meaning to mention it but then raider0 got me goin again and again…
and i know allz gonna say im a norco creation , but, truth is truth…garcia will get us 50-50 season ATLEAST…and charlie is good student… not quittin on jmac…but, as stated way up above, he was brought in under rough waters…AL, KIFFIN, …i think if he moves on, fresh start w fresh chance will propel him…not that i wanna miss out on his BEST YET YEARS…but , maybe its best for HIM and us…???
August 20th, 2009 at 9:56 am
I grew up in San Jose, lived most my life there,…and I havent rented in about 15 years,..care to keep guessign wrong Kell?..by the way Im happy you are doing well.
August 20th, 2009 at 9:57 am
Brandy is ok in coffee,..at tailgates me and brien drink hennesy,..amongst other things…brien likes his hennesy for sure though.
August 20th, 2009 at 9:58 am
good morning AZ. where’s OAKlifer?
we all need an ice cold Kool-Aid shower this morning after the heated debates
hope I didn’t offend Raider O (again) he’s my buddy. He’ll probably close my account at Bank of O now. cr@p!
August 20th, 2009 at 10:01 am
If garcia does ok sat night, I bet he gets start vs saints. hope so anyway.
August 20th, 2009 at 10:02 am
Raider O,…quit your snivlin.
August 20th, 2009 at 10:02 am
hardly 666, seems to me you know something about that though,..not judging though bro. all good, your biz.
August 20th, 2009 at 10:03 am
thnx for the luv earlier bra’…kept meaning to mention it
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no need to thank me man. THANK YOU as I stated earlier
my brother n law had 1 deployment in Iraq and is currently on his 2nd in Afghanistan – helmond province. part of that surge, ya know? tons of friends and ppl from my side of the family (dad, both grandpa’s etc) served too
August 20th, 2009 at 10:03 am
I need to split,..catch all you “fans” later.
August 20th, 2009 at 10:04 am
LMFAO at Garcia ….
I’d rather have Gradkowski or Frye start over that guy. I wouldn’t even want old ass Favre.
You guys are trippin!
Garcia? So we can win 9 games? The what? He’s out of the league next year, then what?
I hope Garcia follow old as Neal out the door!
Football is a young mans game!
August 20th, 2009 at 10:13 am
Morning RR AN RAIDER NATION!
Got nothing more to say on the topic. It’s that time of year where only wins matter. Here is a shot of kool-aid for you guys.
JAVON WALKER COMEBACK PLAYER OF THE YEAR (even more likley now)
9-7!
CHARGERS REIN AS AFC WEST CHAMPS ENDS SEPTEMBER 14TH 2009.
BLITZ NNAMDI!
750+ YARDS FOR CHAZ SCHILENS!
PLAYOFFBOUND!
DRINK IT!
August 20th, 2009 at 10:15 am
At least the Lakers fukin RULE!!!!!
August 20th, 2009 at 10:23 am
4evaraider… i agree w you partially bra’… but, most of america doesnt understand how many times europe and other countries have been terrorized, and, i firmly believe in TAKING THE FIGHT to them instead of letting them BRING IT TO US… i hate the resources we spend when our country could use the SELF HELP seminar , but, we ARE making the terror regime spend ALOT of their $ and resources over THERE instead of elaborate plans and what not for another 911… one 911 was enough for a lifetime… and, dont worry man, i’ll ALWAYS fight for another persons freedoms, even if they dont believe im doing it… all in all man, you made some good comments though, no one has to agree w anyones thoughts…thats freedom in a nutshell
August 20th, 2009 at 10:24 am
Norco,
I think you have a mental illness, so I don’t get mad at you!!!
August 20th, 2009 at 10:25 am
Raider O: you need to fire that white teller if you want Kell’s business. just FYI
he’ll be in on the 1st with that social security check, so you still got some time
August 20th, 2009 at 10:26 am
I think you have a mental illness, so I don’t get mad at you!!!
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come on Raider O. I’ve seen you throw rocks at the short bus before!
August 20th, 2009 at 10:28 am
Thanks for the link to comcast. I dont like javon walker but he is having an impact on the WR”s. Murphy, and Bey have looked to him for leadership, and they state they listen….
JRUSS interview very telling. He needs to spread the ball to ALL not just Chaz….
August 20th, 2009 at 10:30 am
exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:
August 20th, 2009 at 7:37 am
Morning Nation,
Here’s what I think of the whiners:
http://righttruth.typepad.com/.shared/image.html?/photos/uncategorized/2008/01/29/animatedpoosteamingclr.gif
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Isn’t that exactly what the Niners did to the Raiders the last two days?
Alllllll….over…..the Raiders?
August 20th, 2009 at 10:30 am
YOU PEOPLE:
Anyone notice the “too quickly” message now reads -
You are posting comments too ignorantly. School yourself.
August 20th, 2009 at 10:30 am
Richochet: u a 49er fan?
August 20th, 2009 at 10:32 am
RR,
LMAO
Throwing rocks!!!! Are you making fun of me becuase I’m palest!nian!
August 20th, 2009 at 10:34 am
BOO!!!
Help us, help you!
August 20th, 2009 at 10:37 am
Huff shouldn’t go anywhere. I know he was expected to come in and have an instant impact, fact of the matter is EVERYONE needs time to develop into a player, Huff has the tools but he just need time and stability which he himself did not have with the damn bed n breakfast Rob Ryan fiasco not knowing how to utalize his talent, putting him up on an island by himself against the best TEs in the game, which he did a pretty damn good job, I saw him getting better and better but ppl want to give up too quickly on guys because they were drafted high he needed time like everyone else
August 20th, 2009 at 10:37 am
Raider O: they other day you called yourself a nomad
I thought you might throw berries at him?
August 20th, 2009 at 10:39 am
DBW: I think Huff deserves a shot too …
unfortunately Raider O thinks he deserves to be shot!
August 20th, 2009 at 10:40 am
Anyone notice the “too quickly” message now reads -
You are posting comments too ignorantly. School yourself.
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BSJ: mine says “not lucid enough. try again”
weird!
maybe I should stick to comments regarding D-Smooth?
August 20th, 2009 at 10:42 am
the prob is…givin huff a chance doesnt effect our team as much as givin jmac another does… if huff plays poor, it may or may not cost us the game …depending on the rest of our game…if our qb struggles….well, our record indicates the point…
August 20th, 2009 at 10:45 am
Lol RR funny man…Raider O can’t get a break today, it seems to me that D.White has a better view of what’s going on out there based off of his twitter reporting, cmon Jmac lets get it together man ur twitter reporting is lacking imo
August 20th, 2009 at 10:45 am
so rockstar..whats it mean when i get the…
“too flacid” comment?….lol…remember im an UNED PODUNK
August 20th, 2009 at 10:48 am
DBW: Raider O is not a Huff supporter. In fact, he’s very outspoken about giving guys like Jerome Boyd the job instead. I wasn’t trying to slam him based on earlier comments this morning
he knows I’m just joking anyways. We always go back & forth
It took a Chaz Schilens injury to make him pro-Walker
August 20th, 2009 at 10:49 am
new post
August 20th, 2009 at 10:57 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
August 20th, 2009 at 10:40 am
Anyone notice the “too quickly” message now reads -
You are posting comments too ignorantly. School yourself.
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BSJ: mine says “not lucid enough. try again”
weird!
maybe I should stick to comments regarding D-Smooth?
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Dang mine says:
“AZ Raider, due to the fact your posts are too brilliant for members of this blog to except, we will delay in posting this in order to ensure balance between extreme intellegence and stupidity.”