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Cable only talking about Raiders-49ers

By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Friday, August 21st, 2009 at 3:35 pm in Oakland Raiders.

A few news and notes from Friday’s walkthrough as the Raiders prepare to face the 49ers Saturday night:

– Coach Tom Cable declined comment regarding the news that the Napa Police Department has reopened the investigation of the alleged assault of a Raiders assistant coach by another member of the staff. Numerous reports have named Randy Hanson as the injured coach and Cable as the alleged attacker.

Cable said Thursday the club was handling the matter internally and that when the facts were known, “Everything will be fine.”

Hanson has not gone on record, nor has his reported attorney, John McGuinn, who could not be reached for comment.

The investigation means the Napa Police Department will be interviewing potential witnesses and form a matter of record from which the NFL can use as a starting point for its own investigation for potential discipline.

– Darren McFadden will start against the 49ers at running back, which means Michael Bush will get his chance against New Orleans. Cable said Thursday each of three running backs would get a start.

– If Ricky Brown has overtaken either Kirk Morrison at middle linebacker or Jon Alston at strong side linebacker, you won’t be able to notice it by Saturday night’s starters. Thomas Howard will open on the weak side, Morrison in the middle, and Alston on the strong side.

– Rookie defensive end Matt Shaungnessy, who has missed the last three days of practice with a foot sprain, will not face the 49ers.

– Cornell Green left practice Wednesday after being poked in the right eye and did not practice Thursday, but will be able to start against San Francisco.

– Louis Murphy is looking forward to getting his first start alongside fellow rookie Darrius Heyward-Bey.

“Hey, we gotta step up. We gotta play,” Murphy said. “We gotta come out and we gotta play to the best of our ability. It’s a sharp learning curve. You have to really pick up on the playbook and pick up on the coverages, and just go out and just do what you know.”

Murphy seemed unfazed by the talk that it was his trash-talking that got the 49ers fired up for their goal line dismantling of the Raiders passing game Wednesday morning.

“That doesn’t change my approach, man,” Murphy said. “And I’m sorry if I stepped on any toes, man, but I’m just trying to fit in this league. And it that’s by keeping my mouth closed a little longer, that’s what it is. But I’m just happy to be here, man. I’m ready to go to work.”

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357 Responses to “Cable only talking about Raiders-49ers”

  1. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    It will be good to see DMAC start a game.

    DMAC should go out and TAKE the job tomorrow and leave no questions in Cable’s now burdened mind.

    Murphy has an outstanding attitude.

    Players gotta have a strong performance tomorrow and get after it. Time to start flying around

  2. 4evaRaider Says:

    people I know dont sing a diffrent tune,digg

  3. 4evaRaider Says:

    WE ALL SING TOGETHER

  4. Dakota Says:

    TC: Do you think I’m cute, assistant Hanson? Do you think I’m funny?

    H: Sir, no, sir!

    TC: Then wipe that disgusting grin off your face.
    H:: Sir, yes, sir.

    [tries to stop smiling]

    TC: Well, any fucking time, sweetheart!

    H: Sir, I’m trying, sir.

    TC: Assistant Hanson I’m gonna give you three seconds; exactly three-fucking-seconds to wipe that stupid looking grin off your face or I will gouge out your eyeballs and skull-fuk you! ONE! TWO! THREE!

    H: Sir, I can’t help it, sir, you keep giving Justin Fargas carries!

    TC: Bullshit! Get on your knees scumbag!

    [Hanson drops down to his knees]

    TC: Now choke yourself.

    [Hanson wraps his own hands around his throat]

    TC: Goddamn it, with MY hand, numb-nuts!

    [Hanson reaches for Cable’s hand]

    TC: Don’t pull my fucking hand over there! I said choke yourself; now lean forward and choke yourself!

    [choking Hanson]

    TC: Are you through grinning?

    H: No sir if you are going to keep giving Justin
    Fargas carries!

    TC: Bullschit, are you through grinning?

    H: Sir, yes, sir.

    TC: Bullschit, I can’t hear you!

    H: (louder) Sir yes sir!

    TC: STILL can’t hear you! Sound off like you’ve got a pair!

    H: SIR, YES, SIR!

    TC: That’s enough; get on your feet. Assistant Hanson you had best square your ass away and start shitting me Tiffany cufflinks or I will definitely fuk you up!

    H: Are you going to keep playing Fargas?

    (TC attacks H)

    TC: I am going to kill you!

  5. Terrapin Says:

    The Hanson/Davis angle is a joke. Davis took this guys side against Kiffin and it lead to this. That’s his fault. And to believe that he’ll have to rely on this guy in any hearing against Kiffin is darn near hilarious if it weren’t so sad and true.

  6. 4evaRaider Says:

    1 goes down…we wait 4 him 2 get out

  7. 4evaRaider Says:

    Again…You’re killing me Dakota =)

  8. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    Terrapin Says:
    August 21st, 2009 at 3:41 pm
    The Hanson/Davis angle is a joke. Davis took this guys side against Kiffin and it lead to this. That’s his fault. And to believe that he’ll have to rely on this guy in any hearing against Kiffin is darn near hilarious if it weren’t so sad and true.
    =======================================================
    Davis needs some help in managing this team. There really needs to be a go-between that shields the coaches and players from this owner.

    Let Davis continue to “manage” the draft and roster as he sees fit. But he really needs to stay out of the coaches business.

    The primary reason this team has been s%@t 10 of the last 15 or so years is because Davis really has no clue how modern NFL coaches think and work.

    With that said….I hope the players put all this nonsense aside and play ball

  9. Florida Pete Says:

    it does beg the question…

    who brought this turd here???

  10. Dakota Says:

    Have a nice weekend guys…see ya later

  11. 4evaRaider Says:

    LATER DAKOTA AND CONGRATULATIONS BROTHER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  12. Norco Bob Says:

    Jerry, just report on the football, off the field issues are none of your f*ckin business you fat little bitch.

  13. Norco Bob Says:

    Now go share a bottle of wine with the cat-eater from the chron.

  14. lefty12 Says:

    SnB-SUPPOSEDLY this clown went crying to Davis when he was demoted and Davis told him he wouldn’t undermine his HG.as Terrapin says,Davis probably kept this weasel around because he needs him in his battle with Lance,but it looks as though Davis isn’t interfering with the coaches.

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  16. KoolKell Says:

    I would imagine the Palace is full of….sycnopeople willing to tell Al anything he wants.

  17. LA to TheBay Says:

    Whats up, Nation?

    Been a while since I posted, though I always read up on the Raiders (and their bloggers) and wanted to post a few things I feel neccecary to address.

    1. Chaz is a big loss despite the fact he caught less than 20 balls last season. He was clearly the top WR and player in general of camp.

    1a. I had the exact same injury as Chaz (Left 5th metatarsal) a few years back when I was playing hockey. Walking cast for 4 weeks, wasn’t playing for another 3. As cautious as Cable appears to be with Walker, Id’ say Chaz will be back in time to play Philly.

    2. DMC will show the world why he is dangerously explosive and in need of a breakout season to debunk the notion he is a bust or some sort of “poor man’s Reggie Bush.” That will start tomorrow.

    3. Don’t put too much stock in this awful practice the Raiders had. True, we can’t picture Manning or Brees having a practice like that, but you never know.

    In an age where even an August practice is instantaneously posted on twitter, blogged about, and Monday Morning QBed by the likes of White, Kawakami, and Jerry – and us as well – we have to appreciate that its JUST PRACTICE (Allen Iverson, can i get an ‘amen’?). They watched the film and will be better for it.

    3a. Even if it didn’t work, I like that Cable is pushing Russell and putting him outside the current check-down comfort zone.

    3c. I like Russells reaction to an extent (”world’s not over, if it is – show me”). You don’t have to breathe fire out there to be succesful but you do have to be succesful to be succesful.

    In other words, JR doesn’t get rattled easily if at all. He’ll shake it off and be better for it. On the other hand, you should not have to rely on your own back up to rally the troops. Lead by example. Throw TDs and not INTs.

    4. CABLE BUMAYE!!!!!!

    For those of us who want to shed the tough guy/gangsta image…..um, maybe wanna try the team across the bay. Grab a laptop and a latte and keep your Crabtree jersey on layaway a bit longer, ladies its almost time for (real) football.

    I’m mixin up a batch a kool aid with enough to go around, even for the doubters and pessimists.

  18. Simon Says:

    The bottom line is…if coach did attack Hanson he should be fired straight away. Totally unacceptable. You can’t lead men when you yourself act like a fool.

  19. Raiders13LA Says:

    MURPHY has a great attitude. he should get all the Raiders to think like him Jamarcus for example…
    Lets go Raiders make those forty winers cry tomorrow…

  20. lefty12 Says:

    should everyone get to play so nobody gets their feelings hurt too Simon?this isn’t little league.

  21. Norco Bob Says:

    Simon stop your crying.

  22. Raiders13LA Says:

    D-Mac will show the NFL this season why he was a sleeping giant. No more terf toe bitch’es…

  23. ottocrat Says:

    Have you seen the official team picture of Randy Hanson? The guy looks like a mental patient.

  24. LA to TheBay Says:

    I also like that Al Davis has Cable’s back. Finally a coach he can be on board with. A coach who sees eye-to-eye with him (if Cables sitting in a golf cart next to AD).

    Which is going to be more upsetting when Cable’s watching Al’s latest overhead presentation and introduction of Coach Willie Brown from county.

    In all seriousness, this will linger throughout the course of the season, ending with a suspension of Cable for a few games, settlement out of court to Hanson, and constant ridicule from the sportsworld.

    Only way to shake it or at least dilute it is to win.

  25. LA to TheBay Says:

    I’m out Nation.

    Be good.

  26. RaiderRon Says:

    LA to Bay,

    How do you know Al has Cables back?

  27. Nnamdi21 Says:

    Cable gets lashes by the Leauge. Thats the worst of it. So what?!

    Your telling me a team like the Bengals criminal history isn’t as bad as this?

    There were SIX fights yesterday at the Saints-Texans scrimmage.

    SIX!!!

    Why aren’t these people under investigation by the League?

    Oh, because it was potentially a coach! Ooh! oh!

    Get this right Oaakland Raiders.

    Start to practive and play like winners and it all goes away.

    You be come the darlings, the Legends who restored Raider greatness and glory.

    CONQUERING YOUR DESTINY

  28. Nnamdi21 Says:

    23. No sh*t! What is that pic post beating?

  29. Nnamdi21 Says:

    26. Brushes with the League and with the law are a Davis trademark.

    Are they distractions? Sure. Can they be lightning rods? You bet your a** they can…

  30. Nnamdi21 Says:

    14. Has a ring to it…

  31. RaiderRon Says:

    Nmadi,

    Head coach assaults assistant. Name another time that happened.

  32. 4evaRaider Says:

    KoolKell Says:
    August 21st, 2009 at 3:54 pm
    I would imagine the Palace is full of….sycnopeople willing to tell Al anything he wants

    I would imagine that 2

  33. ENGLANDRAIDER Says:

    CABLEBUMAYE!….CABLEBUMAYE!….CABLEBUMAYE!….

    Holy Toledo! You mean Kiffin was right about something!

  34. ENGLANDRAIDER Says:

    You think Hanson is Mr?!

  35. ENGLANDRAIDER Says:

    Hey Dakota!

    I really enjoyed post #4.

    You should write fiction for the movies

    or NBC News.

  36. 4evaRaider Says:

    Simon Says:
    August 21st, 2009 at 3:59 pm
    The bottom line is…if coach did attack Hanson he should be fired straight away. Totally unacceptable. You can’t lead men when you yourself act like a fool.

    Simon…I am really easy 2 get along with so I will just think you have never worked in a man’s world

  37. 4evaRaider Says:

    RaiderRon Says:
    August 21st, 2009 at 4:18 pm
    LA to Bay,

    How do you know Al has Cables back?

    ron go swim in your house that is 300,000 under water

  38. 909RaiderLifer Says:

    This is going to get fugly…

  39. ENGLANDRAIDER Says:

    The really great A’s teams were always fighting each other.

    It worked out just great.

  40. ENGLANDRAIDER Says:

    Who the hell cares how many people Cable hits.

    The main thing is that we win games!

  41. HayesDaze37 Says:

    It’s a great day to be a Raiders fan. Isn’t it?

    Sniffle…sniffle…the coaches had a fight. Waaaah.

    Stop the whining! Back in the day, this would’ve been just “boys being boys.” Now, it’s a disaster of major proportions.

    It’s no secret Hanson’s not the guy you want getting your back in Oakland. If he can’t get along with other coaches, he shouldn’t be around them.

    Unless provoked beyond reason…If Cable can’t control his temper, he needs some anger management classes and to pay a hefty financial settlement to Hanson. Oh, yeah…maybe some community service to show contrition.

    Then, it’s just another tale in the long line of Raiders’ tales. Sometimes, those tales come during really good/great years even. Tough times bring out the best in many teams…and it’s been awhile since it happened to this one.

    The players actually LIKE Tom Cable, and they like his approach to the game and season. How his approach translates on the field during the season is yet to be seen…but HIS players seem likely to rally around their HC.

    That’s something I can’t say about the past few coaches here.

  42. lefty12 Says:

    think i’ll go listen to the KHTK guys and get their no doubt negative spin on things.Grant Napar hates us,Mike Lamb(ex-Raider)says he is a fan but never has anything good to say about us.later.

  43. 4evaRaider Says:

    ENGLAND RAIDER is in da HOUSE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    ENGLAND RAIDER…You hear from LMN???

  44. ENGLANDRAIDER Says:

    Chaz being out is too bad. He is looking good for us though and will be back. Four to six weeks sounds real optimistic.

    SD has Jackson out for awhile with his injury.

    The other receivers just need to step up.
    We don’t know whether Walker is for real yet or not. On no account should they let him head for Vegas.

  45. RaiderRon Says:

    4 eva,

    You write your own material?

    Hayes,

    Players said they liked Kiffin too. So what?

  46. ENGLANDRAIDER Says:

    HEY 4EVA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Pass the beer!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    No haven’t seen LMN on here but I haven’t been on here since last Friday.

    I hope that guy didn’t lose his job
    There’s plenty of pirates out there need aprehending.

  47. ENGLANDRAIDER Says:

    Hi Mr

    Don’t you get tired of thinking up new names.

    Bye the way is your real name Hanson?

  48. RaiderRobG Says:

    My praises for Murphy are well documented. And tomorrow night we’ll be back here talking about his promising future.

    Cocktail hour, indeed!

  49. 909RaiderLifer Says:

    Need a laugh? check out the “pic of the day: at pft.com

  50. 4evaRaider Says:

    RaiderRon Says:
    August 21st, 2009 at 4:44 pm
    4 eva,

    You write your own material?

    Thats what I pay you 4 bitch

  51. NnamdiShutsDown Says:

    Seriously….. I just want to win I don’t care if Cable punches babies…. let’s just win!!

  52. THREE RING CIRCUS Says:

    Just another day in the life of the Raiders. Everyone will keep their mouth shut and this bumb will be old news by next week. Go Raiders!!!!!!!!!

  53. HayesDaze37 Says:

    Actually Ron — Most players thought Lance was a cold fish. He had virtually no communication with Defensive players…not even Nnamdi (who expressed his surprise to have Lance even talk to him on a plane ride home after another disaster game. Too late to seek counsel from even his best player…Kiffie was gone soon thereafter).

  54. 4evaRaider Says:

    Exactly Hayes…a lil boy cant lead men

  55. 4evaRaider Says:

    Now his daddy Monte can lead because he is a man

  56. KoolKell Says:

    HayesDaze37 Says:
    August 21st, 2009 at 4:52 pm

    Actually Ron — Most players thought Lance was a cold fish.
    ————————–
    Here’s another guy speaking for someone else.

  57. ENGLANDRAIDER Says:

    909 Thanks. I always need a laugh.

    I saw this headline in the Washington Post and it said:

    “LUTHERANS TO WEIGH GAY CLERGY”.

    Man you’d think Lutherans would have somthing better to do than weighing Gay clergy.

    The headline below that said:

    “LUTHERANS TO VOTE ON SEXUALLY ACTIVE GAYS”.

    Couldn’t they just use write-in ballots?

  58. KoolKell Says:

    HayzeDaze, Oakglenn, Priest are always telling us what everyone thinks, what NFL people think, what the players think, what the coaching staff thinks or thought.

    You guys ever notice that?

  59. Tonio Says:

    Here’s what I wana see… DMC’s first true start… and Next week… Bush getting to truly prove himself

  60. 17 Bob Trey O Says:

    Ah, come on man. A coach can’t punch a dipwad anymore? Might as well change NFL to stand for the Neutered Fairies League. This is old school, dammit!

  61. ENGLANDRAIDER Says:

    Simon says:

    “if coach did attack Hanson he should be fired straight away”.

    Are you fukkin kidding me?!

  62. Simon Says:

    Choking and breaking the jaw of a coworker…try that at your job and see what happens. Doing such to a person half your size does not make you a man. Get a clue. Besides I like Cable, I hope he didn’t do it. I am just sick of the dysfunction. This is just another hindrance to our success.

    peace out

  63. 4evaRaider Says:

    Neutered Fairies League.

  64. 4evaRaider Says:

    Gawd I hope it dont come 2 dat,like ron wants it 2

  65. 4evaRaider Says:

    Simon…you gotta break some eggs 2 make an omlette

  66. HayesDaze37 Says:

    HYPOCRITE ALERT HYPOCRITE ALERT HYPOCRITE ALERT

    KoolKell Says:

    HayesDaze37 Says:

    Actually Ron — Most players thought Lance was a cold fish.
    ————————–
    Here’s another guy speaking for someone else.

    ——————–

    KK…One of the most rigid opinions in here…who normally speaks on behalf of entire cities/races…is talking about other people speaking for other people.

    HYPOCRITE ALERT HYPOCRITE ALERT HYPOCRITE ALERT

    KK — I didn’t speak for Nnamdi, he spoke for himself. You want to act like Lance had a better relationship with his players than he did, you go right ahead. If that were the case…Kiffin would still be here.

    If ANY single player went to Al in support of Kiffie, he wasn’t one who swung a big-enough bat. Certainly, not enough players — elite or not — went to bat for Lance…before OR after his firing (not even now-ex-Raiders, who are usually lightning-fast with a quip…true or not).

    KK — Lance was like an enigma…like a surreal moment in Raiders history…thankfully a short one we are now recovering from.

    Now Kell — Go back to sleep, or find a non-fan to scrap with.

  67. Simon Says:

    So are you saying he should hit somebody else? JK

    point taken

  68. Florida Pete Says:

    ya know… i gotta believe there is a whole lot more to this story…

    we need a Paul Harvey moment…

    clearly Hanson said or did something that set cable off…

    now if Hanson simply had a disagreement or he was a little out of line… then Cable has some explaining to do…

    but if Hanson told Cable to suck his … or told Cable his daughter gave lousy … or some other interesting personal anecdote…

    well then… we all know what poking a stick at a bear will get you…

    California can’t write enough laws to overcome nature… and that is the natural impulse to pummel a smartass prick who desperately needs it…

  69. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    Here’s the problem.

    Cable tried to fire the punk kid but Davis overruled him

    Davis kept the punk kid around to be “eyes and ears”

    I speculate that the punk kid was prancing around like he was the boss or something and Cable had enough of it.

    Bottom line…the punk kid was PLACED there by Al Davis.

    So its not so much a story about emotion or putting someone in their place.

    Its about Tom CAble eliminating the meddlesome ways of Davis….by choking out HIS guy!

  70. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    and that is the natural impulse to pummel a smartass prick who desperately needs it
    =======================================================
    A smartass prick who Cable tried to fire earlier!

    A smartass prick who was hand picked by Al Davis

    Why can’t the Raiders be 100% focused on ball!

  71. NnamdiShutsDown Says:

    Screw Hanson, he’s obviously a small little smart@#* or else Cable wouldn’t have put him in his place… I don’t think he would do it for no reason. Besides who’s stupid enough to talk smack to a corn fed white boy that’s his size?!? Only someone who thinks they’re invincible that’s who… turns out he just has a glass jaw…

  72. Florida Pete Says:

    SnB… i usually agree with you…

    you seem to know what this is about…

    i don’t…

    i want to hear the rest of the story…

    i want my Paul Harvey moment…

    what did the little focker say to cable???

  73. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    Florida Pete,

    I want to know why the punk kid was in the room to begin with!

  74. 17 Bob Trey O Says:

    Until Hanson can produce a corroborating witness it is a case of he said/ she said. He (Cable) may having been trying to stop Hanson from tripping over his big mouth but could not stop him before he slammed into the furniture. And what is up with this “You are posting comments too quickly. Slow down” junk?

  75. Florida Pete Says:

    SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
    August 21st, 2009 at 5:30 pm
    Florida Pete,

    I want to know why the punk kid was in the room to begin with!

    ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

    there ya go… even you want to know the rest of the story !!!

    we want the story !!!

    we want the story !!!

    everybody…

    we want the story !!!

  76. Florida Pete Says:

    you know…

    this could be just another slip and fall …

    we had those when i was in the army…

    before they made slip and falls illegal…

  77. NnamdiShutsDown Says:

    Or maybe he just fell down the stairs right Pete?

  78. 4evaRaider Says:

    Alright NATION…catch you in AM

  79. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    Its all fun and games until coaches miss meetings talking to investigators…..

  80. ENGLANDRAIDER Says:

    Take it easy 4EVA!

  81. ENGLANDRAIDER Says:

    ESPN just said it’s going to become a tradition.
    At the start of every game, Cable’s going to hit someone.

  82. Florida Pete Says:

    al davis and the raiders have attorneys that will be more than happy to schedule interviews with any of the staff the police choose to interview…

    those interviews would be taking place at the Raiders convenience…

    there is a difference between being a suspect and being a witness…

    i am also sure that were Cable to be arrested, he would have nothing to say and would be out on bond in no time…

    let’s play football…

  83. LOTT 42 Says:

    Awsome posts #17 & 27.Right on Raider brothers.I couldn’t agree more. Winning will cure the ridicule and pretty soon all the media haters will be silenced. We as loyal fans must keep the faith. Raider Nation rises again! starting now! Raiders 4 life.

  84. NoMoreFargas Says:

    I’m not worried about cable getting into legal trouble its the NFL that worries me .

  85. 17 Bob Trey O Says:

    It sucks from the standpoint that Cable needs to focus on run defense, not a legal defense.

  86. ENGLANDRAIDER Says:

    CABLEBUMAYE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    And I’m out.

  87. Raider O Says:

    I really don’t think Cable punched him!! He mayhave pushed him, but never punched him.

  88. Raider O Says:

    If Not, then why is he telling us not to worry?
    Why didn’t The assistant do something before. It happened on the 5th.
    Why Now???
    Something is not right!!!!

  89. jhill Says:

    Anyone watching the Dallas game?

    Can I go out on a limb and say we will be better than Tennessee?

  90. SaintKaufman Says:

    Come on O,
    The story is sooooo much better if Cable just gave him that Clint Eastwood scowl and decked him!
    That must have been awesome(allegedly).

    You guys are nuts! Post #4 is one of the funniest things I’ve ever read on here!! RAIDER ON!!

  91. jhill Says:

    al davis and the raiders have attorneys that will be more than happy to schedule interviews with any of the staff the police choose to interview…

    —————————————————–

    LOL Pete! Good Point.

    I’m sure there won’t be one “witness” that confirms Hanson’s story.

    He was mad, and tripped over his chair while trying to storm out to Al Davis’ office. Self inflicted clumsy episode.

  92. Terrapin Says:

    Man ..watching this dink-n-dunk offense the Cowgirls are running is torturous. I know its preseason but man is this hard to watch. Thank GAWD for Raider football.

    I think they got weaker on margin since losing T.O. Roy Williams is going to get his numbers likely; but he just isn’t the same as a T.O.

    Our starting offense is performing better than Tenn’s vs Dallas 1st string. Our defense? Its questionable.

  93. jhill Says:

    Couple things I’m looking REAL close at tmw …

    What formations Cable uses. Hopefully a lot of 2 TEs.

    Kirk Morrison in the middle.

    Trevor Scott at RDE.

  94. Nnamdi21 Says:

    Fuk U Josh DuBrow. Just fuk U.

    http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=txdysfunctionalraiders&prov=st&type=lgns

    and Fuk U 2 Raiders if you don’t post at least .500 this year. Us long suffering fans DESERVE IT!!!

  95. Nnamdi21 Says:

    The official Hanson story?

    “He walked into a door.”

  96. jhill Says:

    We should’ve been .500 last year Nnamdi21, don’t you think?

    If’s safe to say that with a coach that isn’t trying to get fired, A LT not named Kwame Harris, and starting McFadden will get us to .500.

    Now if we can get a few other positions solidified, then look out.

  97. Terrapin Says:

    I’ll be most interested in how JR performs with Schilens out. Will he look lost, unsure? He really needs to learn how to use ALL his WRs.

    How does Murph and DHB perform?

    The defense? Man, I don’t know what to say. If they don’t fix that RDE spot from what I saw, its going to be a long season. But patching up that spot, at least, isn’t too difficult.

  98. jhill Says:

    2 TE set HAS to be our base offense. Just has to. With the weapons we have, how can it not be?

  99. jhill Says:

    JR does tend to play favorites. Spreading it around would certainly be a good thing. I think he took what was open last week. They were obviously doubling DHB , while Chaz what getting single coverage. He threw it away to DHB a couple of times to keep them honest.

  100. Nnamdi21 Says:

    jhill Says:
    August 21st, 2009 at 6:25 pm
    We should’ve been .500 last year Nnamdi21, don’t you think?

    If’s safe to say that with a coach that isn’t trying to get fired, A LT not named Kwame Harris, and starting McFadden will get us to .500.

    Now if we can get a few other positions solidified, then look out.

    ======================

    NOT overly optimistic. Not sure about .500, but definitely should’ve won a few more than we did.

    Opener against Denver?

    Blame Kiffin

    Buffalo?

    Blame Hall.

    KC?

    Blame Cable.

    SD?

    Blame the offense.

    Carolina?

    Blame Walters.

    N.O.?

    Blame the whole frikkin team.

    Could’ve won a couple more, but man, there were some brutal blow outs.

  101. jhill Says:

    Buffalo, SD, and KC should have ALL been wins. We gave those games away.

  102. Terrapin Says:

    This will be an interesting game to see how fast these young WRs can come to form.

    Based on that Dallas game I have the Raiders as being close to a 0.500 team. (7-9 kinda team …improvement).

    Who knows …they fix RDE, start DMC&Bush and this defense plays tough …they can be even better. Its there.

  103. Terrapin Says:

    Thats why I don’t see how someone can say DHB was a bad pick as of right now. Dude was serving his purpose 1st game out the gate! Drawing doubles and pushin’ the DBs back. Chaz was getting open all over the field!

    I just don’t understand it. But I guess people have a tendency to bitch when they don’t get what they want and harp on the negative while ignoring the positives.

  104. Raider O Says:

    Saint McGiver,

    We are all nuts!!! We come here every day to talk about the same issues, but expect different results!!!

    Nnamdi,

    LMAO @ 95.

  105. Raider O Says:

    He walked into a door!!!

    Still LMAO

  106. Richochet Says:

    4evaRaider Says:
    August 21st, 2009 at 3:33 pm
    Like I said…If everyone sticks together 4 the common good…No problemo

    No witness…No case

    Simple as that.I have lived it
    ——————–
    Moron.
    Left the hotel and went straight to hospital. Xrays show a crime was committed.

    By everyone’s admission, he was at work when it happened.

    Cable, being the log he is, admitted that he “flipped his chair, and he hit a cabinet”

    Cable also, in his “I’m too dumb to be outside after dark” mode, also stated “Nothing HAPPENED.” which makes him a liar on top of it.

    Al Davis THEN VERIFIES SOMETHING HAPPENED by demoting him, offering him to “become office personnel, view game films, or just take your check and do nothing” which means he’s done as a coach.

    Oh hell yeah he’s got a case…BIG TIME…one that I suspect a check with a 3 followed by 6 zero’s on it will effectively squash the case.

    What you’re talking about, 4neva, is you had no witnesses to you peeking in windows of the boy’s locker room.
    Not the same thing.

  107. jhill Says:

    I missed the report where Cable said he flipped his chair, and he hit a cabinet. Do you have a link?

    I saw the one where sources reported that’s what happened, but I didn’t see one where he admitted it., Yop, if he admitted that, then it’s a problem for him, but I doubt that happened.

  108. jhill Says:

    And how can Xrays show that a crime happened?

  109. Richochet Says:

    Circumstantial evidence.

    Saying you were robbed, where no one saw it, and you can’t prove what you had, is my word against yours.

    But when you state you were attacked, and have the injuries to prove it, and witnesses saying “yes, he was there at work” and you state it was an employee?
    Circumstantial evidence convicts many.

    Considering how Cable waffled as each day went by doesn’t bode well for him..shows he’s got something to hide.

    Think about it.

    IF no one attacked him? IF no one did this, and it was a simple accident? Stating “was an accident. that’s all” but he didn’t even do that.
    He went from “nothing happened” to “I flipped his chair” to “we’ll take care of this internally”..

    A prosecuting attorney’s dream scenario

  110. Nnamdi21 Says:

    109. Not exactly

  111. jhill Says:

    Again, where is the link.

    We will handle this internally, and Nothing happened is the only thing Cable is on record as saying.

    Tom Cable’s lawyer will say that he tripped over a chair, and hit his chin on something. Have no idea what it was, just heard a thud.

    All 3 witnesses in the room and their lawyers will confirm Cable’s version.

    Or something like that.

  112. Richochet Says:

    jhill Says:
    August 21st, 2009 at 6:48 pm
    I missed the report where Cable said he flipped his chair, and he hit a cabinet. Do you have a link?

    I saw the one where sources reported that’s what happened, but I didn’t see one where he admitted it., Yop, if he admitted that, then it’s a problem for him, but I doubt that happened.
    ======================
    =======================
    No shortage of reports, obviously..
    http://www.bing.com/search?q=Cable%3A+flipped+his+chair&first=1&FORM=PERE

    Didn’t bother to check if Cable actually stated that to a reporter. You are right..if he did, it’s the smoking gun needed, and he’s toast.

  113. BS Detector Says:

    Ricochet says:
    “Didn’t bother to check if Cable actually stated that to a reporter. You are right..if he did, it’s the smoking gun needed, and he’s toast.”

    You are the BIGGEST idiot on here. “Didn’t bother to check”?! Yet you claim it as fact. MORON!

    jhill

    Ricohet is a known moron that eats his own shit and swears it’s steak.

  114. jhill Says:

    Hanson is trying to get back at Cable for being demoted. The defensive players will tesitify, with their lawyers present of course, that Hanson was sabotaging the DBs by calling coverages the DC was not aware of.

    Who is going to comfirm Hanson’s story?

  115. BS Detector Says:

    run little boy run

  116. jhill Says:

    I know BS … I like talking to Dude, eh hmmm, I mean Richocet. I always end up getting him to say things like that. Never has an argument that is actually backed up by anything.

    Didn’t bother to check if Cable actually stated that to a reporter?

    That is just amazing that he would even type this. Just amazing!

  117. jhill Says:

    The basis of his whole argument, and he didn’t even think it was important if Cable actually said it or not?

  118. The RaiderCast | Cable could face stiff league discipline Says:

    [...] coach Tom Cable had no comment Friday concerning the fact that Napa, Calif. Police have reopened the case that he reportedly broke the jaw [...]

  119. Richochet Says:

    jhill Says:
    August 21st, 2009 at 7:17 pm
    The basis of his whole argument, and he didn’t even think it was important if Cable actually said it or not?
    ==============
    No, dumbass.
    Basis of the argument was Cable denied anything happened at all.
    then stated it will be handled internally.
    Added about reports of him flipping chair.

    Aren’t you the idiot who asked “how does a xray show a crime was reported”??

    Wasn’t that nitwit you? lol…

    No wonder you get confused so easily.

    =======================

  120. Richochet Says:

    jhill Says:
    August 21st, 2009 at 7:15 pm
    I know BS … I like talking to Dude, eh hmmm, I mean Richocet. I always end up getting him to say things like that. Never has an argument that is actually backed up by anything.

    Didn’t bother to check if Cable actually stated that to a reporter?

    That is just amazing that he would even type this. Just amazing!
    =========================
    Uh…WHAT?? LOL.. what did you just say?

    YOU always get me to say “things like that”??

    You spineless little worm..YOU’VE NEVER TAKEN ME ON REGARDING A SINGLE SUBJECT.

    Read that again.

    Your sorry sniveling ass has NEVER stepped up.
    Past a link..

    You won’t..because you can’t. Hell, if there’s ONE POSTER HERE that’s avoided me, is you..and now you run that take? lol…dude..for fun? I’m going to shit down your neck..and watch you squirm.

    If the Raiders starters beat the Niners backups tomorrow, I give you three days before you cry NO MAS. (hell, it took GlennthePussy all of one day)

    If the Raiders lose to the Niners backups? I’ll give you one day.

    don’t worry, I’ll remind ya..just a little salt in the wound..and again..IT’S FREE :)

  121. nevadaraider Says:

    O, I certainly hope that Cable knew better than to deck the guy, who probably deserved it. Still, if he wins the opener or is even 2-2 after four games, all is forgiven. He won’t get fired over this, that’s for sure.

    I too, am more worried about Goodell suspending him for a few games, which is looking more possible with each passing day. Who would be HC in that instance? Hackett has experience, Tollner, Marshall, Hanson??? I am just tired of a system where there is Al, and then way down the ladder is the HC, and everybody else is mish mash, as Jerry wrote.

  122. jhill Says:

    I take it you were looking for something that actually backed you argument? Is that what took you so long to respond? Or did you think we went away? LOL!

    I know you tend to forget what you post, so here it is again for you:

    Left the hotel and went straight to hospital. Xrays show a crime was committed.

    By everyone’s admission, he was at work when it happened.

    Cable, being the log he is, admitted that he “flipped his chair, and he hit a cabinet”

    Cable also, in his “I’m too dumb to be outside after dark” mode, also stated “Nothing HAPPENED.” which makes him a liar on top of it.

    Al Davis THEN VERIFIES SOMETHING HAPPENED by demoting him, offering him to “become office personnel, view game films, or just take your check and do nothing” which means he’s done as a coach.

    You literally made up everything you said. Not one piece of it is fact.

    Again, I ask you for the link where Cable says he flipped the chair.

    Again I ask you how Xrays of a broken jaw prove a crime was committed? Instead of say him hitting hs jaw on a desk after stumbling?

    Where is the proof that Cable is lying when he said nothing happened between him and Hanson? I bet Cable has everyone in the room back his story.

    Al accepting the coaches decision to demote him to the film room verifies something happened? Really? What? Al deciding to honor his contract or let him work in a different department verifies that same thing?

    Really?

  123. SaintKaufman Says:

    There is nothing in the world more helpless and irresponsible than a man in the depths of an ether binge.

  124. jhill Says:

    I’ve avoided you?

    LMFAO!

    Probably more like ignored you and your new screen name. Funny, you show up when screen name Dude disappeared. If you’re not Dude then it really doesn’t matter because it all still applies. Same style of pointless non factual stuff that you JUST POSTED!

    I didn’t even bother to check …..?

    Well if this is our first encounter, I guess I’m up 1-0!

  125. jhill Says:

    It’s funny you consider someone responding to you stepping up. LMFAO!

    Internet personalities kill me.

    How’s the weather in Seattle?

  126. jhill Says:

    Do I really have to wait until the game tomorrow?

    You have my full attention RIGHT NOW.

  127. Richochet Says:

    jhill Says:
    August 21st, 2009 at 6:32 pm
    JR does tend to play favorites. Spreading it around would certainly be a good thing. I think he took what was open last week. They were obviously doubling DHB , while Chaz what getting single coverage. He threw it away to DHB a couple of times to keep them honest.
    ————————–
    Tends to play favorites?

    See..you’re confused.

    first off you have to be able to complete passes to find a “favorite”.
    Worst starting qb in the NFL last year means he couldn’t hit water from a boat.
    his favorite target?? THE TIGHT END.
    What does that tell you?

    come on, nitwit..you can do it….RIGHT..HE CHECKED DOWN.
    The leading WR last year caught 22 passes.
    Means the BEST WR ON THE RAIDERS LAST YEAR CAUGHT LESS THAN 2 BALLS PER GAME.

    so please..”favorite receiver”??

    Well, hell..if you meant the Niners scrimmage??..Russells favorite receivers???….
    that would be the Niners Dbacks.

  128. Richochet Says:

    jhill Says:
    August 21st, 2009 at 8:21 pm
    lol…dude..for fun? I’m going to shit down your neck..and watch you squirm.

    If the Raiders starters beat the Niners backups tomorrow, I give you three days before you cry NO MAS. (hell, it took GlennthePussy all of one day)

    If the Raiders lose to the Niners backups? I’ll give you one day.

    —————————————————

    LMFAO!

    WTF does this even mean?

    =======================

    Yep, you’re slow.

    You don’t know what “Crying No Mas” means???

    Seriously???

    How old are you?

    Damn..you mean you need everything explained?
    From “xrays” to “favorite receiver” to “being confused on who you’re talking to”??

    Like kindergarten in here.

  129. jhill Says:

    first off you have to be able to complete passes to find a “favorite”.
    Worst starting qb in the NFL last year means he couldn’t hit water from a boat.
    his favorite target?? THE TIGHT END.
    What does that tell you?

    come on, nitwit..you can do it….RIGHT..HE CHECKED DOWN.
    The leading WR last year caught 22 passes.
    Means the BEST WR ON THE RAIDERS LAST YEAR CAUGHT LESS THAN 2 BALLS PER GAME.

    so please..”favorite receiver”??

    —————————————————–

    Is this the salt you think you’re throwing?

    I think I actually agree with you.

    Yes, his favorite target was the TE, yeah the WRs sucked, so yeah his favorite target is the TE.

    So again, WTF are you saying?

  130. jhill Says:

    You should just skip the football talk. You suck at it.

    You might as well just get straight to the name calling.

    That’s really your point. Come to a forum where you can get off that type of BS without getting the snot knocked out of you.

  131. jhill Says:

    Explains you avoiding my comments torching the sorry Raiders.
    Best you know your limitations

    —————————————————

    What world are you living in?

  132. Florida Pete Says:

    he’s from the planet Hisanus…

    be glad it’s not Youranus…

    lol… oh god… that was thoroughly junenile…

    but hilarious…

  133. jhill Says:

    I actually have a lot of time right now Pete. Kushed out, Raiders are not on, wifey is cleaing up, and the 4 year old is doing her thing.

    I have a good hour to give this dude my full attention. After all, he says I’ve been ignoring him, so let’s give em what he asks for.

    I’m from the gotta let a ho b a ho club

  134. jhill Says:

    Where are you?

    Is it really taking you that long to come up with material?

  135. jhill Says:

    Or are you actually reading what you type before you hit the submit button? That would explain the delays. Constant editing!

  136. jhill Says:

    I know I asked you about 5 questions. Does it really take that long to get 1 answer on the board?

  137. jhill Says:

    Ok, forget the 4 others, just give me the link to Cable saying he flipped the chairs.

  138. jhill Says:

    Or if you think it’s easier to tell me how Al not over riding a coach’s decision, and instead offering him another position proves something happended between Cable and Hanson that led to his injury?

  139. jhill Says:

    Still nothing?

  140. jhill Says:

    20 minutes?

    Nothing to say?

  141. jhill Says:

    I know I know, don’t have all day to sit on a blog, right?

  142. jhill Says:

    Ok, how about telling me how an XRay of a broken jaw can be tied to Cable instead of a desk?

  143. jhill Says:

    Any thoughts on how Hanson is going to overcome EVERYONE in the room backing Cable’s story?

  144. jhill Says:

    Say it, and I’ll stop!

  145. Florida Pete Says:

    no, he can’t…

    but he can say Youranus !!!!

    bah hahahahaha…

  146. jhill Says:

    Damn, man!

    Now I know how Brien feels when he blasts MR!

    Ok, Pete, I’m done!

    I’ll check back in in a little while to see if he shows up.

  147. jhill Says:

    And “a LT named Kwame”?? Uh…idiot? Who wanted Kwame? Who lobbied for him? CABLE. Who signed him for that ridiculous contract? Al.
    Kwame proceeded to completely suck.
    Cable wanted to bench him around game 6.
    Al wouldn’t let him.
    Cable notified one and all that “KWAME IS OUR STARTING LT, AND THAT IS THAT.”
    In other words, Cable has as much control over the team as he has over his own emotions during meetings..NONE.

    ————————————————–

    Now I will say this is something I never heard before. I thought Al wanted Henderson all along? I thought it was Cable who forced Kwame down our throughts.

    Since you are the first person EVER to have this take, again, I’ll ask you for a link?

  148. BS Detector Says:

    OWNS you

  149. BS Detector Says:

    Jhill 1

    Ricochet 0

  150. jhill Says:

    It’s not that I wasn’t even here..it’s the fact you’ve got to be one sorryass insecure little geek to post 13 IN A ROW.

    —————————————————

    That’s me. Pocket protector and all.

    Now that we got that out of the way, any answers to the questions?

  151. BS Detector Says:

    LMFAO

  152. Richochet Says:

    jhill Says:
    August 21st, 2009 at 9:01 pm
    And “a LT named Kwame”?? Uh…idiot? Who wanted Kwame? Who lobbied for him? CABLE. Who signed him for that ridiculous contract? Al.
    Kwame proceeded to completely suck.
    Cable wanted to bench him around game 6.
    Al wouldn’t let him.
    Cable notified one and all that “KWAME IS OUR STARTING LT, AND THAT IS THAT.”
    In other words, Cable has as much control over the team as he has over his own emotions during meetings..NONE.

    ————————————————–

    Now I will say this is something I never heard before. I thought Al wanted Henderson all along? I thought it was Cable who forced Kwame down our throughts.

    Since you are the first person EVER to have this take, again, I’ll ask you for a link?

    ===========
    You thought Al wanted Henderson “all along”??
    What? You don’t follow Al?
    How can you state something that stupid?

    Al makes the decisions, period.

    Yeah, Cable went to bat for Kwame, like a fool.

    Al bit.

    And gave him a completely ridiculous contract.
    Al got laughed at.
    Al hates getting laughed at.

    If Al wanted Henderson all along he would have been in.

    Answer me this.

    Kwame was the absolute WORST STARTING TACKLE IN THE LEAGUE..right?

    By week 8..BAR NONE.

    Are you saying that when Cable announced “Kwame is our starting LT” he actually FELT THAT WAS THE RIGHT MOVE??

    If he did he’s the dumbest coach in America..easily.

    Hell, even someone as slow as you know who made that decision..the same guy who ALREADY ADMITTED HE BLEW IT WITH HILL, AND WALKER, and obviously blew it with Kelly’s contract..and NOW HARRIS IS A BUST??

    Cable was a flea who had no choice but to do what Al said to do, when he said to do it.

  153. jhill Says:

    I’m still trying to figure out what you mean by the Raider starters beating the Niners backups. Are you talking about Craptree not being there?

  154. BS Detector Says:

    Crabtree is a woman, just like Dicochet gobbler

  155. jhill Says:

    Ok so your take if Al runs the show so that is why Kwame played?

    He has no problem cutting Hall, but goes out on insists on Harris?

    That’s your take?

    1 question for ya?

    Al makes ALL the draft picks, right? Well who drafed Henderson?

    Well I guess that was technically 2 questions.

  156. Richochet Says:

    jhill Says:
    August 21st, 2009 at 9:09 pm
    I’m still trying to figure out what you mean by the Raider starters beating the Niners backups. Are you talking about Craptree not being there?
    ================
    Yep, you’re slow.

    Singletary is sitting a lot of the Niner starters, as he did in game one.
    Raiders aren’t.

    tick….tick….tick….

    Jhill “ohhhhhhhh….ok”

  157. BS Detector Says:

    JHILL is the KING!

  158. jhill Says:

    B back in 20 min Ricky …

  159. BS Detector Says:

    on another note Crabtree has looked good so far this pre-season

    LMFAO

  160. BS Detector Says:

    The 9ers best and toughest player is on the sidelines and is the head coach.

  161. WESTRAIDER Says:

    If Ricky Brown has overtaken either Kirk Morrison at middle linebacker or Jon Alston at strong side linebacker,

    no fn way, THIS IS GETTING OLD the season has not even started and grable is killin us this team blows and will never get it right jruss is garbage (should have got vick) and we still cant get a good outside linebacker. dhb over malauga was stupid.

  162. BS Detector Says:

    Oakglenn OWNS Ricochet

  163. BS Detector Says:

    Raider Dell OWNS Ricochet

  164. Raider Dell Says:

    BS

    That was fun! I can’t believe how Jhill ran circles around this dude, and he was stupid enough to keep on trying to hammer him, what a fool.

  165. Raider Dell Says:

    I will bet you right now, his mommy is tucking him in his bed saying ” ridowhiner you are so stupid to be messing with that Jhill”.

  166. Teabag Says:

    # jhill Says:
    August 21st, 2009 at 8:47 pm

    Any thoughts on how Hanson is going to overcome EVERYONE in the room backing Cable’s story?
    ——————————————

    How about something called PERJURY… And that is something VERY possible bieng 4 other coaches were in the room…

    Even if they get their story on the same page, there is no telling if someone cracks or one of the coaches buckles because he is not so sure another holds up…

    Yea, had to bring this one up.

  167. jhill Says:

    You still out there Ricky?

  168. jhill Says:

    Well thanks for at least taking a shot at the question Teabag. Little Ricky couldn’t seem to come up with anything.

    I will say that you need a better answer though. Perjury, or PERJURY as you like to call it, has to be proved, right?

    How are they going to prove that Cable is lying?

  169. jhill Says:

    Cmon Little Ricky!

    You’ve had a half hour or so to at least answer 1 question. You referred to the questions (although you weren’t here, wink-wink), and even knew the #s of the posts. You have no answers to the questions? You know the questions that basically blow your whole argument out of the water? Are you saying NO MAS to that position you took earlier?

    I have no problem moving on ….. to say discussing your team. Have you ever actually come out and say what team you root for? I’m sure it was Dallas last weeek, as it it will be whoever we play next week.

  170. Teabag Says:

    Just the thought of possibly facing a felony charge over an original charge that could be plea bargained down to a misdemeanor and/or a civil settlement is enough…

    It’s foolish to believe that these coaches will lie under oath and face 5 years in jail for Tom Cable.

    The case will probably not even make it to court and will not be open for investigation much longer.

    But yea, to think that they will dummy up on the stand is stupid.

  171. jhill Says:

    Exactly Teabag,

    It will never make it to court, so there will be no statements under oath. In fact, I doubt there will be enough evidence to even bring any charges. I could be wrong, so I’ll ask u, what evidence do you think they can come up with to get Cable charged?

    Ricochet seems to think that statements that sources are attributing to Cable, and X-Rays of a broken jaw will do.

    I, on the other hand, agree with Pete when he says that the Raiders will make any witnesses available to the police that they want. Of course the company lawyer will be there actually answering the questions. As employees of the Raiders, talking about an incident that happened at work, the Raider lawyers will definitely be the front line on this.

  172. jhill Says:

    Tell you what Little Ricky …

    If you want to make this fair, give me the link to your team’s blog, and I’ll come in there to “talk” to you. That way, you can have a pro Ricky crowd, and we’ll see how you do.

    Fair enough?

  173. jhill Says:

    Now, back to the game tomorrow.

    2 rookie WRs?

    Trevor Scott at RDE?

    Kirk Morrison at MLB?

    Uggghhhh!!!!!

    Well at least I can look forward to McFadden starting.

  174. priesttj Says:

    You guy’s are so caught up in this stuff that you forget that the only reason the cops reopened the case is his jaw was broken. They were forced to do it. Do you really think the Napa police want to be respnsible for losing the Raiders coming in and bringing all this business every year. The Mayor of Napa is probably on the phone with principle parties Telling them t make it go away as soon as possible. Hell Goodell is probably doing the same thing. Had Cable done something to a civilian yeah we would probably have something serious to worry about.

    But Randy Hanson carries no cache he’s a non-entity who probably provoked the whole thing. He’ll heal and move on with a decent check to represent the ordeal. But if anyone in here thinks this is going anywhere.

    Get a clue!

    Something like this was eventually going to happen to Hanson unfortunately. He needs to go though the academics and get his money and case closed……….period

  175. jhill Says:

    Over under on how many times Dre Bly gets beat tmw?

    I say 3, since he’ll probably only play the first qtr.

    Big Nate will get JR’s respect, especially with that matador on the other side.

  176. Teabag Says:

    # jhill Says:
    August 21st, 2009 at 10:21 pm

    Exactly Teabag,

    It will never make it to court, so there will be no statements under oath. In fact, I doubt there will be enough evidence to even bring any charges. I could be wrong, so I’ll ask u, what evidence do you think they can come up with to get Cable charged?

    Ricochet seems to think that statements that sources are attributing to Cable, and X-Rays of a broken jaw will do.

    I, on the other hand, agree with Pete when he says that the Raiders will make any witnesses available to the police that they want. Of course the company lawyer will be there actually answering the questions. As employees of the Raiders, talking about an incident that happened at work, the Raider lawyers will definitely be the front line on this.
    ——————————————-

    There is no smoking gun.. Obviously.

    But, a chronological timeline that shows Hanson was indeed in the same room with the mentioned coaches at X time with broken furniture and Hanson checking himself into the ER not too long after this meeting is more than enough to go on. All they need is one person to put their name on it to have Cable charged and arraigned.

  177. Thec07 Says:

    BHP, what up Bro, see u are lurkin……
    Give me your take on how the rooks do. Specifically
    the WR’s…….

    I think they will do well, murphy is good, DHB will command the bracket as usually. Do you see them running 2 TE’s sets?

  178. Teabag Says:

    And I think the Niners are going to bend the Raiders over tomorrow. At least the first teamers.

  179. jhill Says:

    Check?

    If u think Al is going to pay him a penny more than his contract calls for now, then I think you’re mistaken. Hanson has ZERO leverage. Worst case scenario has this as a his word vs Cable’s, and Cable has all the witnesses on his side.

    This only becomes a story when someone in the room other than the 2 principals goes on the record to back Hanson’s side. I just don’t see that happening.

  180. jhill Says:

    But, a chronological timeline that shows Hanson was indeed in the same room with the mentioned coaches at X time with broken furniture and Hanson checking himself into the ER not too long after this meeting is more than enough to go on.

    —————————————————–

    Really?

    I’d argue that those set of circumstances equally support a guy so enraged at his demotion, that he lost his bearings, stumbled over some furniture, and injured himself.

    And you are assuming there was broken furniture. More source of a source stuff.

  181. jhill Says:

    Really Teabag?

    Well, according to Ricochet, Singletary is sitting the 1st teamers, so I guess we might be catching a break. Maybe Singletary is going to take it easy on us?

  182. Teabag Says:

    # jhill Says:
    August 21st, 2009 at 10:35 pm

    But, a chronological timeline that shows Hanson was indeed in the same room with the mentioned coaches at X time with broken furniture and Hanson checking himself into the ER not too long after this meeting is more than enough to go on.

    —————————————————–

    Really?

    I’d argue that those set of circumstances equally support a guy so enraged at his demotion, that he lost his bearings, stumbled over some furniture, and injured himself.

    And you are assuming there was broken furniture. More source of a source stuff.
    ——————————————–

    Not really assuming…

    Just being logical..

    Somebody fabricating there was broken furniture is pretty silly…You are sticking to the “Nothing Happened” routine to a fault.

    It’s cool to be pro “Nothing Happened” but he fact is SOMETHING happened lol. And once they put the pressure on, somebody will talk. Hanson will get a settlement paying him more than his contract.

    This is real life, This aint an episode of The Wire.

  183. Teabag Says:

    # jhill Says:
    August 21st, 2009 at 10:37 pm

    Really Teabag?

    Well, according to Ricochet, Singletary is sitting the 1st teamers, so I guess we might be catching a break. Maybe Singletary is going to take it easy on us?
    —————————————–

    Don’t know Ricochet. But, history calls him a liar. 2nd and 3rd preseason games are the biggest tune ups for the players. Maybe Mike is different. I don’t know.

  184. jhill Says:

    The Wire?

    That was a damn good show.

    Anyway, logical doesn’t in this case. We are talking about facts.

    We all know what happened. But the point is what can they prove!

  185. Teabag Says:

    and BTW, I am just playing Devils Advocate with this Hanson ordeal.

    I subscribe to the belief that Hanson was an informant for Al. Cable probably hated the guy, didnt want him on his staff, and felt some resentment to wards the current situation.

    Nobody likes a snitch. And Hanson probably deserved to get his jaw rocked.

    I hope it is a blessing in disguise and frees Cable to run his show with autonomy. Al’s track record says otherwise and there is no reason to think this incident will change that tho.

  186. priesttj Says:

    Thec07, I can’t post it keeps wiping it out.

  187. priesttj Says:

    DHB and Murphy will play well. But when DMC and Bush get going it’s over.

  188. Thec07 Says:

    BHP, keep pressinh F5, and enter, it will eventually post.

    Ron and Jerry get the servers fixed……

  189. Kirk Says:

    The Hanson incident occurred during a seance when Cable became possessed by the spirit of Woody Hayes.

  190. jhill Says:

    I think DHB and Murphy could struggle this week. I think Clements will get the better of Murphy, and Bly will have S help on DHB all game long. I don’t expect to see these two do much.

  191. Teabag Says:

    I don’t expect to see much from DHB, they will scheme to him. Murphy, maybe. Doubt it. Walker would be nice.. Walker is the one we need to come around til Chaz is 100%

  192. Teabag Says:

    Hopefully Walker can go next week.

  193. Thec07 Says:

    I like the idea that JRUSS has to build a rapport with the other wide outs. He needs to spread the ball around anyway… The TE meyers was a good pickup, 9ers did good on stopping the pass in the first scrim, wonder how they fair at trying to do both….

    I predict 24-9 Raiders too much DMAC and BUSH. DHB cant be covered frees up the TE’s to make big plays.

  194. jhill Says:

    I think it’s more of people being open, than JR spreading it around. DHB was doubled last week and they played Chaz straight up. It was the right call to go to Chaz. This week? I see the matchups dictating Miller, JLH, and the RBs getting most of the completions. JRuss better not try and force it to the WRs like he did in practice the other day. Get it to the open guy.

  195. Thec07 Says:

    I see it diffrently. Murphy has tthe swagger and confidence to fill in for chaz. I fully expect him to contribute earrly and often. DHB i expect some big catches out of him. DHB finds the soft spot between burning bly and the safety. HEr is where JRUSS will need to step up his game.
    If we are in 2 TE sets the D will need to account for DMAC, ZMILL, and Myers all of who can catch the rock.
    DMAC 1 on 1 with a LB DMAC win 100 of the time…

  196. Thec07 Says:

    This game isnt going to be anything like the practice. I just hope the circus off the field does not become to much of a distraction for the team…..

  197. No More Infield or Trolls Says:

    Jhill – 9
    Little Rack o sheet – still 0

  198. jhill Says:

    The fan in me wants to believe that Murphy can beat Clememts the same way Chaz beat up on the Dallas CB last week. But the realistic side of me tells me that Clements is better than the guy Chaz faced last week, and Murphy is not as good as Chaz. Murphy probably won’t get shut out, but if he comes out looking like Chaz did that would be a surprise to say the least. A pleasant one, but still a surprise.

    I do agree that we should see a lot of zone defense though. So maybe you are right. We’ll see if the rookies can find the open spaces.

  199. 4evaRaider Says:

    What you’re talking about, 4neva, is you had no witnesses to you peeking in windows of the boy’s locker room.
    Not the same thing.

    Notice how this pussy only says this sh!t AFTER I sign out.rack-o-shit you are a pussy 4 saying things that are lies and only when you think people arnt around.You still sucking your mama’s tits pussy-boy

  200. Raider O Says:

    Jhill,

    The Boys didn’t have their 2 starters at CB against us.

  201. Oaklandborn Says:

    Cable only talking about Raiders-49ers

    Okay…and so should you Jerry!

    Enough about Cable…out of respect to your readers, the players, the other coaches. We just want to hear about football…

    I’ve seen comments about filtering this blog…we need to filter these sports “jounalists”…I am trying to get FOOTBALL information here and I have to constantly filter thru the tabloid B.S.

  202. Raider O Says:

    4eva,

    It’s really late bro!! Especially for somene whos been up since around 6am.
    Don’t you need to sleep?!

  203. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Priest, how much business do the Raiders bring Napa? Practices are closed to the public. Aside from retarded fans trying to catch a peek through a fence or whatever, I don’t see Napa getting a ton of business due to the Raiders being in town. I live in Sacramento, know Raider fans of all economic classes, and I’ve never heard anyone say that they’re going to Napa because the Raiders are there. I think your belief that the Napa PD will bury this under a rug to keep the Raiders’ training camp in town is delusional at best.

  204. priesttj Says:

    These guy’s are oblivious to this crap because camp is just too involved now if this is stiill hot nheavy as we get into the season, yeah. Because of the down time on Tuesday’s. The questions will start to wear on them. But right now they are way too focused on getting better and making this team.

    DHB is just too good of an athlete and so is Murphy. Their size and speed presents prblems for any DB. What yu guy’s are thinking about was a redzone situation. Between the 20’s is very different. DHB will run right by these guy’s and so will Murphy. They could get away with some of the physical stuff when they know the endzone is 20 yards away. But at the 40 is a very different story.

    Let Bly come up and bump DHB at the his own 30 and miss it will be 6 points in a hurry. Trust me that stuff that took place in practice was situational. This is a game. And we’ll see how much they’re wolfing after they get beat deep.

  205. priesttj Says:

    If it’s $5 Hanson aint worth it.

  206. jhill Says:

    I know that O …

  207. priesttj Says:

    Clements and Bly are probably 5′ 10′ each and Murphy and DHB are both 6′2″ with 40 inch verticles in open field it’s very different than redzone. So we’ll see…….

  208. 4evaRaider Says:

    Raider O just thought I’d check in B4 bed.Then I see rack-o-shit regurgitating the sperm he swallowed earlier.If I can make the game Nov.15th vs. the squaws how much you wanna bet rack-o-shit comes up mia lol

  209. Raider O Says:

    BHP,

    Do you think he punched him?
    I think something is not right with this:
    - it happened on the 5th, but now it’s important!!
    - now he wants to report it, and why not before?

  210. Thec07 Says:

    I would imagine the raiders or any other training camp would bring considerable revnue to a city:

    Lets say the raiders team, and staff equal 130 people.

    1. Hotel accomodations
    2. Rental Cars
    3. Food
    4. Entertainment
    5. Taxes
    6. Gas
    7. Rental fees for practice location
    8. Security detail for players and personnel

  211. Raider O Says:

    Talk as much as you like about Bly, but Clements can play. He’s from THE OSU!!! ;)

  212. 4evaRaider Says:

    I’m drunk-out soooo Good Nite NATION!!!

  213. Raider O Says:

    Jhill,

    Good!

    4eva,

    Smoke! don’t get angry at the retard, he can’t help it.

  214. jhill Says:

    Not to mention the media being in town, and what they add to your list.

    Think the local winery’s got a boost in business?

    Local golf courses?

  215. Thec07 Says:

    priesttj Says:
    August 21st, 2009 at 11:22 pm
    Clements and Bly are probably 5′ 10′ each and Murphy and DHB are both 6′2″ with 40 inch verticles in open field it’s very different than redzone. So we’ll see…….

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    I will put my money on DHB, and Murphy all day everyday…..

  216. Raider O Says:

    Good Night 4eva, and have a great weekend.

  217. Thec07 Says:

    Could ask chamber of commerce what the Raiders mean to the city in terms of revenue, i bet they would say otherwise…..

  218. Thec07 Says:

    4eva, be safe Bro……

  219. Thec07 Says:

    When JRUSS and DHB really start clicking its over…..

  220. priesttj Says:

    I’ve seen Clements get beat but he rarely makes mistakes you have to attack him. Bly in open field trying to cover DHB is MEAT. He’s too short and gambles way too much. Russell will vicimize him.

    Raider O, I’m not sure something happened but if I know Hanson he definitely pushed until it was something someone was going to do to him. He just never quits so if not Cable someone else. But Hanson attacked Marshall IMO and Cable went after him. My personal opinion, but that’s how I see it.

  221. Raider O Says:

    Clements is a good NFL CB. If DHB plays well, it will be due to his skills and not lack of talent from Clements. IMHO

  222. Thec07 Says:

    From what cable is saying we will see the same type of gaming/scheing as the dall-ass game, with starters playing the first half. Barring penalties i expect our O to dom the 9er D, all freakin day…….

  223. Raider O Says:

    Their Offense is sorry, and they can only run the ball. They have a few descent players on Defense.

  224. priesttj Says:

    If you saw the Denver game the only reason that Denver didn’t put up some points is the QB kept giving the ball away. Huge holes on run plays and guy’srunning open but the QB was terrible. The niner offense was pedestrian at best. So we’ll see

    Raider O, Clements is a very good corner if you let him get into your body but once you gain separation he panics.He plays the out very well and slants but he can be had you just have to attack him and make him make plays. Any corner can be beat if you attack them. Some just worst than others even Nnamdi will give up catches but it’s hard to score on him. Thes guy’s face Nnamdi and CJ everyday. It was just the first time they saw these guy’s and they won………on that day, Sat. could be very different. So we’ll see..

  225. priesttj Says:

    The only offense that concerns me is NO because they shredded or pass defense last year and I mean shredded it. So i really want to see that game. This game is interesting because of obvious reasons. But other than that we passed a tough test in Dallas now I want to see NO.

  226. priesttj Says:

    Adios!

  227. Thec07 Says:

    LTR BHP,,,,,

  228. Raider O Says:

    Have a Great Night BHP, and I enjoyed reading your posts as always.

  229. Raider O Says:

    Today is Ramadan, so Ramadan Mubarak my brothers.

    It’s getting late, so have a great night Thec, Jhill, and Nation.

    Thec,

    This is the month for the best Med easten food. If you like it, let me know bro.

  230. Sweep The Leg. Says:

    Hey, O.

  231. Thec07 Says:

    Take care O….

  232. Florida Pete Says:

    IT’S SATURDAY MORNING ON THE EAST COAST OF RAIDER NATION…

    ON TODAY’S MENU WE HAVE THE 49ER’S…

    AND A BEATDOWN OF BIBLICAL PROPORTIONS…

    CAN I GET A “BOOMAYE”…

    end of message…

  233. 4evaRaider Says:

    Jhill-500

    rack-o-sh!t-0

  234. 4evaRaider Says:

    BOOMMAYE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  235. 4evaRaider Says:

    HISANUS Thats really funny Pete =)

  236. Florida Pete Says:

    8)

  237. Florida Pete Says:

    hey… anybody… will the raiders be on tv here in the southeast ???

  238. 4evaRaider Says:

    Pete…It’s not even showing up on ATDHE.Net…

    soo it’s KSFO AM 560 4me

  239. NoMoreFargas Says:

    How many fumbles for miss smith , Rankin will dominate the scrubs again give da man a chance. Dmac,Bush,Rankin

  240. Terrapin Says:

    Like I said the passing game will be interesting to watch. They did very well vs Dallas and that same defense just neutralized Tenn all game; but they had no answers for the Raider’s O last week. That’s a good sign. But we’ll have to see how this offense performs ex-Schilens.

  241. Terrapin Says:

    Dude Rankin really isn’t better than Fargars. I thought this was already settled?

  242. 4evaRaider Says:

    NMF…Are you still gonna change your name when Dmac starts???

  243. NoMoreFargas Says:

    Only if I don’t see fargas at all in reg season game everytime he use his 15 in vertical to jump straight into the pile my body shivers.

  244. Terrapin Says:

    Another interesting tidbit about the Dallas vs Tenn game was that Tenn couldn’t stop Dallas. Dallas simply dink-n-dunked up the field all day for scores (torture to watch). They simply couldn’t get Dallas off the field.

    I found it interesting because Tenn appears to have a better Dline and maybe better LB corp than the Raiders – yet they couldn’t get Dallas off the field (maybe their weakness was in the DBs).

    But I will say that I didn’t see many long runs being made against them though (can’t remember any really). Seems like the Raiders are always giving up some big runs – which clearly shows thats something is going eerie in the front 7.

  245. Terrapin Says:

    Looks like Marcel Reece will make the squad. Luke Lawton isn’t even listed on the depth chart. His blocking stink either way. It was horrible.

    Anyone knows what exactly happened to LoNeal? On IR.

  246. 4evaRaider Says:

    nope

  247. exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:

    Good Morning Nation!
    If you want to see the game, scroll all the way down the listings @:
    http://www.channelsurfing.net/

    They have more sports listings than ATDHE.Net

  248. Terrapin Says:

    I think they’re going to open up on office with this starting lineup Monday night (barring injury):

    QB – Russell
    RB – DMC
    TE – ZMiller
    WR – DHB
    WR – Walker

    Oline self explanatory. If Walker is true to form and there are no further injuries to the WR corp I don’t expect them to rush Schilens back.

    Question really is how much will you see MBush? Will he jump ahead of Fargas on the depth chart come opening day? Will he be on the field a lot with DMC split out wide? We won’t know these answers ’till the season starts.

    Barnes returning will be an interesting case. Cable should just tell him straight up that he’s not going to beat out Mario and so start taking RT reps.

  249. Terrapin Says:

    The Turd may just get the boot. I think they’re getting fed up with his underproduction. Why he can’t comprehend the meaning of the words “leverage” and “stay low” is beyond me. Seems like a simple concept.

    Cable says they simply overlooked him on the depth chart but funny thing is …they’re STILL overlooking him on the depth chart 2 weeks later.

    I’ll feel much better if JRich were listed as starting RDE. Just saying.

  250. 4evaRaider Says:

    Hey Exla THANK-YOU VERY MUCH 4 DA LINK!!!

  251. exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:

    You’re welcome 4evaRaider. That’s what Raider brothers are 4.

  252. Thec07 Says:

    NATION, What is UP??????

    If walker is up to par, meaning he is back to his form of 2004 i would reluctantly give him the nod. However, with murphy i am not so sure i dont start him. He is going to really shine today IMHO…… Hr looked great last week, and has the confidence to step up. Question how is it JLH is not starting. Weve got a good one in murphy i expect him to come up big. Not cocerned about starting rooks, if they can play, and make plays you have to play the ala eddie royal, denver donkeys..

  253. Thec07 Says:

    Question really is how much will you see MBush? Will he jump ahead of Fargas on the depth chart come opening day? Will he be on the field a lot with DMC split out wide? We won’t know these answers ’till the season starts.

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    This is what i am hoping to see.

    I know we have beat this horse but, the key to the offense of course is the QB. Build upon what you did last week, spread to ALL the targets if possible…

  254. Terrapin Says:

    JLH is a good WR. But in the NFL he’s a slot WR to me. Thats why DHB and Murphy are starting over him. Its just a matter of what role does he play in the offense.

  255. RaiderRon Says:

    Starting over him in a preseason game. Who cares?

  256. Thec07 Says:

    Terp, I agree with your assement of JLH. I have allways liked him, even when those on the blog wanted his head.

    did cable say he was starting his “best” receivers???

  257. jhill Says:

    Mornin folks!

    Walker coming back to form would be the ideal scenario. I love what I am seeing from Murphy just as much as the next guy. But starting 2 rookies concerns me a little bit. It seems like DHB is locked in. You could make an argument for starting Murphy over DHB, but do you really want to see 2 rookies against Cromartie and Jammer?

  258. jhill Says:

    JLH is going to get PLENTY of opportunities. Most of those chances are going to come out of the 3WR set. It is what it is. He’ll get his chances in the 2 WR sets when DHB needs a break.

  259. Raider Dell Says:

    Morning Raider Men!

    Jhill that was Friday Night’s lights out. You were fun to read.

    I was very sad to see the beat down of Ricky.

    I’m going to the game, I’m surrounded by many Ricky’s, wish me luck.

  260. Thec07 Says:

    jhill Says:
    August 22nd, 2009 at 8:10 am
    Mornin folks!

    Walker coming back to form would be the ideal scenario. I love what I am seeing from Murphy just as much as the next guy. But starting 2 rookies concerns me a little bit. It seems like DHB is locked in. You could make an argument for starting Murphy over DHB, but do you really want to see 2 rookies against Cromartie and Jammer?

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    I am for putting the best available players out there.
    If bey is a “lock”, and walker can beat out murphy then to me it makes no diff, rook or not. PLAY your best players.

    I hope waker comes in up to par, and exceeds expectations, but right now he is a bigger question mark than murphy…..

  261. Florida Pete Says:

    i was cutting down trees in the back yard this morning…

    and while i was doing that i was thinking about this cable thing…

    it’s going to be a big boost…

    tonight at the stadium…

    it’s going to start in the black hole…

    and it’s going to sweep around the stadium…

    and it’s going to pump up the players…

    and the crowd…

    the new Raider war cry…

    BOOMAYE !!! BOOMAYE !!! BOOMAYE !!!

    yeah, baby, now that’s raiderin’…

  262. RaiderRon Says:

    LOL @ Pete. What a tool you are.

  263. Thec07 Says:

    Lets say walker does not come back to form, and cannot beat out murphy, we will be looking at starting 2 rooks against cro, an jammer. jammer is decent cro is not half as good too much of a gambler no dicipline.

  264. RaiderRon Says:

    JLH will start vs SD.
    Vegas is done.
    The Raiders will again be at the bottom of the league in passing and towards the top in rushing. Nothing has changed.

  265. jhill Says:

    I’m all for playing your best players. Totally agree with that.

    The only question surrounding Walker is his health. If he’s healthy and as fast and spry as the haters are saying he is, then I start him. His skills were never in question.

    With that said, aside from him having zero experience, I have no problem going to war with Murphy. I already like him over your boy JLH.

  266. jhill Says:

    If for no other reason that they will actually throw the ball this season, they will not be in the bottom of the league in passing. The stat that will be way higher this year is pass attempts.

  267. jhill Says:

    Good luck at the game Dell!

  268. Thec07 Says:

    http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/raiders/detail?&entry_id=45936

    Quote from article:

    Absolutely,” Cable said after a single and very light practice Thursday in Napa. “If they’re the best two guys, that’s who’s got to play.”

    JLH wasnt in the conversation…..

    Also of note DMAC will be the starter opening night….

  269. RaiderRon Says:

    Already like Murphy better than JLH based on………

    Vegas is done. Hasnt played a role in what, 3 years now? Hes a wack job and shouldnt even be on the team.

    At the end of 2009 season the Raiders will reside in the bottom of the NFL passing rankings. Period.

  270. RaiderRon Says:

    “If” they are the two best. Still 3 weeks till it matters.

  271. Terrapin Says:

    I’ve never all these reporters be so excited about what they are seeing in Walker since he became a Raider. Everyone is skeptical (I’m very). But simply based on the reporting coming out of Napa he probably is back to some significant level of his former self.

    We’ll see over the next 2 weeks.

  272. Thec07 Says:

    Dell, have a great time at the game….

  273. RaiderRon Says:

    Vegas hasnt even practiced for real yet for gods sake. Lets not get carried away.

  274. Raider Dell Says:

    Jhill & Thec

    Thanks, I will.

    I’ll be partying with many Raider Fans during the tailgate.

    I just hate the Stick!

  275. jhill Says:

    Ok Ron …

    And I think he hasn’t played that “role” you are talking about b/c of injury, right?

    Wack job? B/C he got robbed and beaten in Vegas? Or was it b/c he was drunk in Vegas. You do realize that was on the anniversary of his boy Darrent Williams dying in his arms, right? Forget that he’s been a hard working veteran example in camp this year.

    Again, simply saying that if he is as healthy, fast, cutting, running, jumping, and all that, then he will start over Murphy. He’s the veteran, with unquestioned WR skills.

  276. Thec07 Says:

    I saw the interview with the WR’s and the truly look up to walker. The listen and take heed to his advice on the field, he has been mentoring the WR’s. So that speaks volumes to me, as our young WR’s do need guidance, it is refreshing to seee him provide.

    Walker performing is cream, as my expectations were really low coming in… That said i hope he performs.

  277. vegas raider Says:

    Nice stadium Jerry Jones, didn’t even have anybody think about punts hitting the scoreboard. Lechler is going to make a mockery of it on Thanksgiving day with the whole country watching, nailing punts off the scoreboard.

    What kind of a moron spends over a billion dollars on a stadium and let’s something as obvious as that go unnoticed.

  278. jhill Says:

    The National Football Post story cited unidentified sources who gave a detailed account of what seemed to be Hanson’s side of the story. The sources said Cable knocked Hanson out of his chair and into a cabinet, choked him on the ground and threatened twice to kill him before other coaches broke it up.

    —————————————————–

    Have you guys noticed that even Hanson side of the story doesn’t say Cable hit him in the jaw. Even his side refers to him hitting a cabinet. The guy broke his jaw falling into a cabinet on his own. He tripped over his untied shoe.

    And this additional choked him out story is laughable. I think that would’ve been noted in the medical report.

  279. RaiderRon Says:

    Name a guy who has been hurt for 3 consecutive years and hasnt played any significant time for 3 years that has came back to play. Ever in the league.

    He is an unquestioned wack job. Dont bother defending him cause you just make yourself look silly.

    Hes not 100% or he would be playn today and actually practicing. Vegas is done, give it up.

  280. jhill Says:

    Yeah, Lechler is going to have to fun with that. I think he will be ok though since he can kick to the sidelines pretty well.

  281. jhill Says:

    He is an unquestioned wack job. Dont bother defending him cause you just make yourself look silly.

    Hes not 100% or he would be playn today and actually practicing. Vegas is done, give it up.

    ————————————————–

    You know, you’re right. What was I thinking. Thanks!

  282. Norco Bob Says:

    Please start Garcia tonight.

  283. Norco Bob Says:

    Play him three quarters next week vs Saints,..start him all year. Cut Russell.

  284. 4evaRaider Says:

    test

  285. 408RAIDER Says:

    arrrrrrrrrrrrrr slow this down buddy!!!

    Morning NATION!!!

  286. 408RAIDER Says:

    WHINER BASHING TIME!!!

  287. Florida Pete Says:

    jhill Says:
    August 22nd, 2009 at 8:56 am
    The National Football Post story cited unidentified sources who gave a detailed account of what seemed to be Hanson’s side of the story. The sources said Cable knocked Hanson out of his chair and into a cabinet, choked him on the ground and threatened twice to kill him before other coaches broke it up.

    —————————————————–

    Have you guys noticed that even Hanson side of the story doesn’t say Cable hit him in the jaw. Even his side refers to him hitting a cabinet. The guy broke his jaw falling into a cabinet on his own. He tripped over his untied shoe.

    And this additional choked him out story is laughable. I think that would’ve been noted in the medical report.

    ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

    there’s choking…

    and then there is a sincere attempt to keep a man’s head from falling off…

    can this jury possibly know which of these things were on Mr. Cable’s mind ???

    can anyone on God’s green earth possibly presume that Mr. Cable, universally known for his compassion and kindness…

    especially toward those of us without talent…

    i would like to mention Kwame Harris as an example of his kindness to the physically handicapped and the mentally challenged…

    would, or even could, possibly act in a manner that could harm poor Mr. Hanson???

    the defense rests…

  288. RaiderRobG Says:

    262. I think “RAIDER BOOMAYE” has a chance at beating out the KC tomahawk chant…which is pretty gay if you ask me. Imagine everyone in the bullring amid the glow of the Monday night lights, Bush busting through the hole plastering Merriman on a 40 yard rumble into the Black hole…Raiders Boomaye!

  289. RaiderRobG Says:

    Murphy is going to score twice today!

  290. DMunoz 26 Says:

    Javon Walker will have over 1500 yrds receiving this year and make the pro-bowl.

  291. Oakglenn Says:

    Game Day!

  292. Florida Pete Says:

    BOOMAYE !!!

  293. Norco Bob Says:

    Start Garcia.

  294. Florida Pete Says:

    i think i can safely speak for all elderly people when i say…

    none of us should be a starting QB in the nfl…

    and that includes garcia…

  295. RaiderRobG Says:

    “Start Garcia.”

    “Must be cocktail hour…ehh!”

  296. 408RAIDER Says:

    yo 4eVA you in here???

  297. Florida Pete Says:

    i think ATDHE was told…

    no more nfl games…

  298. 4evaRaider Says:

    b

  299. Norco Bob Says:

    Elderly is better then big fat stupid with no qb talent.

  300. jhill Says:

    ATDHE?

  301. Norco Bob Says:

    Russell will be part of the last cuts,..and NO TEAM will claim him, not even for practice aquad.

  302. 408RAIDER Says:

    chefs D looked pretty good last night

  303. jhill Says:

    I thought you said you saw him at the game last week, and he wasn’t fat?

  304. 408RAIDER Says:

    testing..

  305. Norco Bob Says:

    Start Gacia, and play Garcia 3 quarters next week. Phase out russell…was a terrible pick, cut your losses now, dont waste another year.

  306. jhill Says:

    26 wonderlic score, Hackett saying how well he knows he playbook, scenarios, and audibles. Stupid?

    I thought it was his accuracy and laid back demeanor?

  307. Norco Bob Says:

    Stupid yes,..Al was stupid for drafting him, and more stupid for playing him. The smart move is to cut him. We all know that.

  308. Norco Bob Says:

    After watching Russell tonight embarrass himself on the field, you all will finally agree with me.

  309. Norco Bob Says:

    Tonight will be laughable,..you think he looked terrible in practice?…watch how he looks tonight,..he will look like a guy thats never played football. Then will be cut.

  310. Norco Bob Says:

    Let Garcia play all year and groom Frye.

  311. jhill Says:

    As soon as Russell starts emabarrassing the Raiders on the field, I will be right there with you to sit his arse down. Thing is, it hasn’t happened yet. Let talk about the players who are in fact embarrassing themselves, and who’s going to replace them.

    Carlisle
    Trevor Scott
    Kirk Morrison

  312. 408RAIDER Says:

    so whats up with the pre game fix???

  313. Norco Bob Says:

    Well as you all know I go to every game, maybe from your couches Russell looks ok,..but in person, hes just plain awful.

  314. Norco Bob Says:

    I see Russell on the sidelines, when losing big, all happy, laughing,…not looking mad like he should,…the fact is Russell isnt bothered by losing,…Gannon when beind would be storming the sidelines yelling at players to get their asses together and stop screwing around,..Russell sucks.

  315. Thec07 Says:

    Its not even 10 yet…..

  316. jhill Says:

    Lol at your signature I go to the game take. When all else fails, well at least you do go to every game.

    I’ll admit that I wish I could go to every game. You do have me on that one.

    But I think that I have a better view of Russell with replay, slow motion, and all that other stuff at home, with the remote, the day after the game.

    Like right now, we can replay the game, and you can point out where you think he made a stupid decision, looks fat, or displays no QB talent. Is there a particular play you recall from being at the game that I should look at?

    How did Carlisle look in person during those penalties?

    Did it look as bad in person as it did on TV when Scott was getting pancaked by Witten?

    How about Morrison getting bounced around? How’d that look up close?

  317. Teabag Says:

    # priesttj Says:
    August 21st, 2009 at 11:22 pm

    Clements and Bly are probably 5′ 10′ each and Murphy and DHB are both 6′2″ with 40 inch verticles in open field it’s very different than redzone. So we’ll see…….
    ———————————————-

    Here goes Priest again with his ridiculous logic again….

    Priest let me ask you a question….

    Do you think Nate Clements was handed, at the time, the richest contract for a defensive player in the history of the sport because he couldn’t cover 6′2 receivers with 40+ verticals?

    NEWS FLASH FOR PREIST TJ!!

    THERE HAVE BEEN RECEIVERS FOR THE PAST 8 YEARS IN THE NFL THAT WERE 6′2 AND HAD 40+ VERTICALS THAT CLEMENTS AND BLY HAVE COVERED DAY IN AND DAY OUT….

  318. Norco Bob Says:

    jhill, until you go to every game like I do, your opinion really doesnt matter,..sorry…what you dont see on tv is what tells the story,..and by the way we get replays on both jumbo trons., not to mention tv`s everywhere.

  319. 408RAIDER Says:

    # Thec07 Says:
    August 22nd, 2009 at 9:54 am

    Its not even 10 yet…..
    ————————–

    hahahahaaa I heard that..

  320. Thec07 Says:

    408, what up Bro, or should i call you ” San Jose dude???

  321. jhill Says:

    I wouldn’t have been that harsh Teabag, but I agree with your take.

    It’s going to be interesting to see what type of defense SF plays against us. Will they play man or zone? If they play zone, the young guys have a better chance.

  322. exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:

    jhill,
    I had Norco Bob’s view for 10 yrs in L.A. and the first 3 in Oakland. I enjoyed the comraderie and electicity of being there live but for a view and evaluation of plays, unless you are in a suite with a T.V., you can definately evaluate the players and plays better from the comfort of my sofa. lol

  323. Norco Bob Says:

    exla, you and I both know you are wrong, but thats ok, anyone whos ever lived in L.A. for any period of time is stupid.

  324. vegas raider Says:

    I’m looking forward to seeing Jamarcus’ mo-hawk.

  325. jhill Says:

    For you to be at every game, it should be pretty easy for you to communicate what the problem is. Not as fiery as Gannon? Is that why we should cut him?

    Ignore the production on the field? Really?

  326. Norco Bob Says:

    Oh hey you will tonight,..he will be the guy on the sidelines smiling, laughing, after leaving game down by a couple td`s.

  327. exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:

    Didn’t get personal with you, just stated the facts. Plus the cost of my adult beveragers are a lot less than in the stadium. LMAO

  328. exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:

    And I don’t have to worry about you spilling them on me.

  329. Norco Bob Says:

    I never buy alcohol in any stadium.

  330. jhill Says:

    I agree Ex,

    I’ve been to my share of NFL, College, MLB, and NBA games. I envy Bob for being able to go to all the games. But for the view and player analysis? I probably miss 1/3 of the game for various reasons when I’m there.

  331. Norco Bob Says:

    Thats for suckers…(L.A. people)

  332. Norco Bob Says:

    Im not sure who would envy me or any fan for viewing raider games in person,..but we pretty much only go nowadays to tailgate.

  333. Norco Bob Says:

    The entire day is great,..but the time from like 1:00 to 4:00 is really a drag, the worst part of the day.

  334. exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:

    I lived in SoCal just as you did with a moniker like Norco. Isn’t that near Riverside as I recall. Fellow SUCKER!

  335. exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:

    I havn’t lived there for 14 yrs Sucker Norco Bob.

  336. Norco Bob Says:

    Is there a city called Norco?…lol…Iv never heard of it…you must be new to think that means a city to me.

  337. Norco Bob Says:

    Ask your friends in here why Im Norco Bob,..dang exla you are stupid.

  338. vegas raider Says:

    I mooched off my uncles extra-season ticket from 99-03 and there is nothing like being at the game…..for a win.

    If I’m going to watch a game like the Falcons or Broncos games last year, I would much rather be on my couch.

  339. exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:

    Of course, there is a jail at Norco.

  340. exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:

    Just messin with you NB. Go pop a couple more pills. LOL

  341. Norco Bob Says:

    Well if theres a crap town down there called norco Im sure youve been there,..but I never got to so-cal, for anything…and never have heard of some ghetto town called norco,..(all of so-cal is a ghetto.)

  342. Norco Bob Says:

    Well I must leave all you “fans”,..anjoy the game tonight on your sofas,..I will be at the stick,…watching in person russell looking awful,..but Garcia will save the day!!!

  343. exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:

    You leaving for Mexico tomorrow Norco Bob. I hear they decriminalized drugs for personal use. lol

  344. vegas raider Says:

    Garcia is going to pull his calf muscle.

    He might be the one cut Bob, and it would take him a few weeks to re-locate I bet. If this guy is so good, how did he end up here? Surely he would like to be in a better place to make one last run at a ring. You telling me Al Davis was the only smart GM to land this guy, or Garcia choose the Raiders amongst his many suitors. Get real.

  345. Teabag Says:

    And yes, I was harsh with Priest.

    I have a pet peeve for the blind optimists.

    I wish for the best from the Raider team as well. But I am not going to subscribe to any train of thought that even remotely suggests that DHB and Louis Murphy are going to come in an have their way with a veteran and extremely proven cb duo of Clements/Bly.

  346. Thec07 Says:

    I will go on record DHB, and Murphy will have good games…..

    A lot of this will depend on No. 2…….

  347. Thec07 Says:

    Cable said these are the best to WR’s baring the injuries to walker and Chaz…..

    Cable riding with them weather they be rooks or not…

    This will be 3 teams in 3 years for bly, why is that?
    He got jettisone from the donkeys last year. I am
    not buying his ability, JRUSS shows up, its lights out.

  348. Teabag Says:

    I’m not sippin’ any of that Kool Aid… Clements and Bly jumped routes all day because Russell still hasn’t learned to look off and sell the fake. I expect more of the same.

  349. kidseven Says:

    Do any of you criminal types know how I can view today’s game on the web? I’m up in Washington and would love to see it. Seems like last season someone posted a back-channel, nefarious, black box way to watch a game.

  350. Thec07 Says:

    I am not sure you can gage situational drills to game time. From what i understand in the situational drills their was no threat of running just passing.

    If in fact the rooks dont play up to my kool-aid sippin expectations i will come back on the blog and admit my opinions were wrong. But thats the great thing with opinions thats all they are, as i do not make my living with the Raiders org…..

  351. exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:

    kidseven Says:
    August 22nd, 2009 at 10:38 am
    Do any of you criminal types know how I can view today’s game on the web? I’m up in Washington and would love to see it. Seems like last season someone posted a back-channel, nefarious, black box way to watch a game.
    ———————————-
    I linked it at post # 247

  352. Thec07 Says:

    kidseven Says:
    August 22nd, 2009 at 10:38 am
    Do any of you criminal types know how I can view today’s game on the web? I’m up in Washington and would love to see it. Seems like last season someone posted a back-channel, nefarious, black box way to watch a game.

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    lol

    http://www.channelsurfing.net/

  353. 408RAIDER Says:

    hey thec!!! Nope to san jose dude 408 is fine!! Ill be sitting by the jumbotron second deck tonight!! Cant wait to go get my tailgate on!!

  354. Thec07 Says:

    408, you know why i said san jose dude? thats what norco bob called you one day…..

    Enjoy yourself Bro…….

  355. Thec07 Says:

    Teabag, You going to the game or watching it from home?

  356. Florida Pete Says:

    reposting

    jhill Says:
    August 22nd, 2009 at 8:56 am
    The National Football Post story cited unidentified sources who gave a detailed account of what seemed to be Hanson’s side of the story. The sources said Cable knocked Hanson out of his chair and into a cabinet, choked him on the ground and threatened twice to kill him before other coaches broke it up.

    —————————————————–

    Have you guys noticed that even Hanson side of the story doesn’t say Cable hit him in the jaw. Even his side refers to him hitting a cabinet. The guy broke his jaw falling into a cabinet on his own. He tripped over his untied shoe.

    And this additional choked him out story is laughable. I think that would’ve been noted in the medical report.

    ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

    there’s choking…

    and then there is a sincere attempt to keep a man’s head from falling off…

    can this jury possibly know which of these things were on Mr. Cable’s mind ???

    can anyone on God’s green earth possibly presume that Mr. Cable, universally known for his compassion and kindness…

    especially toward those of us without talent…

    i would like to mention Kwame Harris as an example of his kindness to the physically handicapped and the mentally challenged…

    would, or even could, possibly act in a manner that could harm poor Mr. Hanson???

    the defense rests…

  357. RaiderRobG Says:

    Bob is a Ruh-tard!

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