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Cable: Why not wait until the facts are in?

There’s been an unfair rush to judgment against Tom Cable.

Part of it is his own doing. Part of it is the Raiders inability to handle a crisis behind closed doors. Part of it is the culture that exists under Al Davis. Part of it is the nature of media in the Internet age. Part of it is that for a lot of people, taking shots at the Raiders is simply good fun.

What we know to a relative certainty is that Randy Hanson went to the hospital for an injury he said occurred when struck by another coach on the Raiders staff. Hanson wasn’t named in the original police report, nor was he named when the investigation was re-opened, but he’s the guy who disappeared from the practice facility, and who several Raiders employees concede was the injured party.

We have a pretty good idea the other person involved was Cable, although there hasn’t been a single on-the-record attribution from someone willing to put their name alongside it.

That should happen at least in terms of law enforcement now that police are involved and investigators can speak directly to those in the room. If police don’t find Hanson’s version credible enough to pass along to the district attorney, the whole matter could go away, and the NFL would be hard-pressed to have any action for discipline because it didn’t happen out in the open.

And Cable would have been treated as a pinata in the press for an incident that never made it past a mysterious skirmish.

Not that Cable didn’t make a rookie coach blunder which rivals the fake field goal attempt against the Chiefs.

Initially, Cable said “it was being handled internally” and would not comment further. There are a couple of ways to deal with a story like this, and that is one of them.

Except when ESPN’s Mark Schlereth called Cable, a college teammate at Idaho, the story changed. Schlereth said Cable hold him the whole story was ridiculous, and said, “nothing happened.” He repeated those words in front of the media in Napa.

Even if the incident was nothing like Hanson says, “nothing happened,” was a poor choice of words in terms of public perception. If someone goes to the hospital, clearly something happened.

Which brings us to the Raiders and how they deal with a crisis. Any team that has a clue, the moment Hanson went to the hospital, immediately gets the involved parties together and maps out a strategy for if and when the story comes forward. If it doesn’t, great, no one is the wiser. But if it does, you’ve got a plan, which would presumably include Cable avoiding saying things like “nothing happened.”

If Bill Belichick was involved in an altercation with an assistant coach behind closed doors, chances are good the whole thing would have been finessed and smoothed over so it never made the light of day.

Of course, Belichick would have never had an assistant on staff he didn’t want, either. Hanson was a Davis hire, and at least for a time, had the ear of the boss. Hanson got Davis’ backing when Lane Kiffin suspended and attempted to fire him.

Chain of command has never been a priority with the Raiders. It’s Davis at the top, and a lot of other employees battling for their own turf.

The competition to break stories, and the immediacy involved with the Internet, has caused a culture where second-hand accounts are routinely put in the public arena with the knowledge that they can always be changed later as the story develops. Gone are the days where you find someone to put their name to a quote, then get confirmations as background.

It’s hard to feel real comfortable reporting a story which says Cable cold-cocked a man he outweighs by 100-plus pounds unless someone is willing to put their name to it. Or that he knocked Hanson out of a chair and threatened to kill him.

If all this is verified by law enforcement, and Cable is led away in handcuffs, there will be plenty of time for piling on.

Until then, Cable is having his character assassinated prematurely.

Who is Randy Hanson?

Steve Corkran’s Saturday story in Bay Area News Group-East Bay papers answers the question, “Who is this Randy Hanson, guy, anyway?”

The short answer? He’s a relatively low-level assistant coach who for a short time had the ear of Davis and believed he was a climber in the organization, and has since found out otherwise.

I’ll have more later in advance of the Raiders-49ers preseason game . .

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  • 4evaRaider

    yo

  • Florida Pete

    ladies and gentlemen of the jury…

    there’s choking…

    and then there is a sincere attempt to keep a man’s head from falling off…

    can this jury possibly know which of these things were on Mr. Cable’s mind ???

    can anyone on God’s green earth possibly presume that Mr. Cable, universally known for his compassion and kindness…

    especially toward those of us without talent…

    i would like to mention Kwame Harris as an example of his kindness to the physically handicapped and the mentally challenged…

    would, or even could, possibly act in a manner that could harm poor Mr. Hanson???

    the defense rests…

  • http://none The Real MaddenRaider

    Cable, THE FACTS ARE IN!

    The press is asking you questions about a police report of an incident that happened with a Raider assistant coach. FACT, AND FACT. Facts. They are asking you about facts, and you’re ho hum, telling them to wait for the facts? Cable, you’ve gone far and beyond proving you’re the typical Al Davis puppet this past week. Congratulations. But don’t worry, I’ll wait till the facts are in. Like the 4-12 record…

  • 4evaRaider

    njo

  • 4evaRaider

    wtf

  • 4evaRaider

    you missed your calling in life Pete =)

  • http://none The Real MaddenRaider

    When the facts do come in, that implicate Tom Cable and reveal what everyone thought happened, I hope those reporters rake his fat ass across the coals for telling them to “wait till the facts come in”, when they were right all along. People talk about the press being tough on the Raiders. If they are, why do they always let the Raiders off the hook when they’re caught in a lie? It’s always “let’s move forward” with the press. This time, they should make Cable pay. All year. Every time Cable downplays a rumor, the press should ask him how they can believe him. Ask him if this is just like when he told them to wait till the facts come in when he was asked about assaulting an assistant coach. It’s time for the press to really start getting tough on the Raiders. The organization has already convicted the press of the crime, so the press might as well commit it, for a change. Just bury Al Davis and this team once and for all. Do 10 page expose` special editions, what have you. I’d like to see Sports Illustrated do a double issue. I can picture the cover. A Raider emblem broken in half, titled, “what happened?”.

  • Florida Pete

    ehem… mr maddenraider…

    allow me to present the 5th amendment…

    it is not like the 5th Dimension… known for their age of aquarius musical promotion of peace…

    or the other 5th dimension… that place from which you come…

    this is the 5th amendment… that is the amendment that says you may not be compelled to testify against yourself…

    all those times you told people to basically shut-up???

    for coach cable that time is now…

  • exlaraiderseasonticketholder

    The blame lies with whoever was closest to Randy Hanson. John Marshall and defensive backs coaches Willie Brown and Lionel Washington were there and I hold each of them personally responsible for not catching Hanson as he went flying by on the way to the cabinet,

  • 4evaRaider

    test

  • http://none The Real MaddenRaider

    Florida Raider nobody’s talking about the 5th amendment. We’re talking about Cable telling the press to wait till the facts come in, when the facts are in. They’re asking him about facts. I see your game is to pretend you’re a more intellectual shill. It’s not working.

  • AddaToon

    Haha… Madden, you aren’t talking about the 5th amendment because you don’t know what it is.
    Florida’s point is valid… this is a real story with real world implications… so the real constitution is being cited and used.
    Why not wait till everything really is in?

  • Florida Pete

    Exla… hang on… let me see…

    ah… you’re right… here it is…

    RCQ 9B.36.041
    Failure to Secure Flying Debris.

    (1) A person is guilty of failure to secure flying debris if in their presence, under circumstances not beyond their control, a human being becomes airborne for a period of time not exceeding 10 minutes.

    (2) Failure to secure flying debris is a gross misdemeanor.

  • exlaraiderseasonticketholder

    Cable is doing the right thing to keep his mouth shut. His lawyers have probably advised him if he discuss’s the “facts”, it could be used against him. So he is right to tell the press to wait.

  • http://none The Real MaddenRaider

    Now, Pete did not miss his calling in life. He’s the most retarded excuse for a lawyer I’ve ever seen. He doesn’t even make sense.

  • exlaraiderseasonticketholder

    Florida Pete,
    I was reading from the same Ca. Penal Code. I’m glad you found it. lmfao

  • http://none The Real MaddenRaider

    And the press is right to grill him on it, ExLaticketholder. Ask your resident, drunk lawyer Florida Pete about that FIRST amendment…

  • Richochet

    Florida Pete Says:
    August 22nd, 2009 at 11:49 am
    ehem… mr maddenraider…

    allow me to present the 5th amendment…

    it is not like the 5th Dimension… known for their age of aquarius musical promotion of peace…

    or the other 5th dimension… that place from which you come…

    this is the 5th amendment… that is the amendment that says you may not be compelled to testify against yourself…

    all those times you told people to basically shut-up???

    for coach cable that time is now…
    =====================
    Again, chasing parked cars makes you slow.

    Answering a simple question from a reporter isn’t testifying against yourself.
    However, because you likely need it explained..when someone says “What happened”
    The correct reply, IF YOU DECIDED TO NOT BE FORTH WITH, would be “I’m not at liberty to discuss this right now.”

    Very simple reply.

    Except he has proven ‘simple’ isn’t always simple, especially when it comes to Cable, and some slowwwww Raider fans.
    Instead he replies “Nothing happened”.

    As is obvious, that answer is insulting to most of you with even the slightest amount of cranium matter (yes, that includes some of you)

  • exlaraiderseasonticketholder

    What need to be proven is that Hanson was debris.
    Max penalty for either charge is $500.00 and 1 day community service.

  • http://none The Real MaddenRaider

    Addatoon, you’re a dumb Raider fan, and proud. I don’t need any lectures from you on the constitution. And, for the third time, moron, the press is asking cable ABOUT FACTS. The police report, moron, read, the police report, IS THERE. It exists. It’s a fact that there is a police report, and that’s what the press is asking Cable about. So for Cable to say to wait till the facts come in is just moronic. They’re asking him about facts. Got it?

  • Richochet

    4evaRaider Says:
    August 22nd, 2009 at 11:53 am
    test
    =========================
    LMAO.
    Leave it to you to post “test”.
    Geez moron..next time just post “DUH”

    Go ahead.
    Try it.

  • Florida Pete

    The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    August 22nd, 2009 at 11:57 am
    Florida Raider nobody’s talking about the 5th amendment. We’re talking about Cable telling the press to wait till the facts come in, when the facts are in. They’re asking him about facts. I see your game is to pretend you’re a more intellectual shill. It’s not working.

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    wow… MR…

    did you do a brain-dump???

    you’re usually a little bit sharper…

    but in your zeal to dump on anything Raider, you decided to park your good sense… well, such as it is…

    you know damned well that Cable should be keeping his mouth shut…

  • exlaraiderseasonticketholder

    Per Pft, 2 members of the Dolphins have tested positive for Swine Flu.

  • http://none The Real MaddenRaider

    Florida Pete, your weird, wannabe intellectual act is just flat out annoying. It’s making me long for the senseless, loud mouth Raider fans. They seem intelligent next to you by comparison.

  • http://none The Real MaddenRaider

    And btw, Florida Pete, I don’t dump on anything Raider. You didn’t see me dumping on Lane Kiffin when he was coaching here, did you? I like the Raiders that are trying to win and don’t give a flying fuq what al thinks.

  • Florida Pete

    The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    August 22nd, 2009 at 12:05 pm
    Addatoon, you’re a dumb Raider fan, and proud. I don’t need any lectures from you on the constitution. And, for the third time, moron, the press is asking cable ABOUT FACTS. The police report, moron, read, the police report, IS THERE. It exists. It’s a fact that there is a police report, and that’s what the press is asking Cable about. So for Cable to say to wait till the facts come in is just moronic. They’re asking him about facts. Got it?

    :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

    may i quote you???

    “The police report, moron, read, the police report, IS THERE.”

    yes it is… and most of us have read it…

    perhaps you should do so…

    yeah, we got it…

    i’ll bet you’re big on those reporters who shout out at a defendent:

    “did you do it??? did you kill her???”

    yeah, groundbreaking, hard hitting reporting…

    wow, MR… your idiot meter is soaring…

  • Moose

    Hanson is a Davis guy, so nothing will come of it..
    every year the media tries to dig up something to distract the players

  • jhill

    Little Ricky,

    R U Still in here trying to talk about this Cable incident?

    Talk about a glutten!

  • http://none The Real MaddenRaider

    # Florida Pete Says:
    August 22nd, 2009 at 12:14 pm

    The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    August 22nd, 2009 at 12:05 pm
    Addatoon, you’re a dumb Raider fan, and proud. I don’t need any lectures from you on the constitution. And, for the third time, moron, the press is asking cable ABOUT FACTS. The police report, moron, read, the police report, IS THERE. It exists. It’s a fact that there is a police report, and that’s what the press is asking Cable about. So for Cable to say to wait till the facts come in is just moronic. They’re asking him about facts. Got it?

    :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

    blah blah blah blah???

    “The police report, moron, read, the police report, IS THERE.”

    blah blah blah blah… blah blah blah blah blah…

    blah blah blah blah blah…

    blah, blah blah blah…

    blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah:

    “blah blah blah blah??? blah blah blah blah???”

    blah, blah blah blah, blah blah blah blah blah blah…

    blah blah blah … blah blah blah blah blah blah…

    …………….

    Wow, interesting, Florida Pete. You’re definitely one of the smart, intellectual Davis shills.

  • jhill

    What does the police report say?

    What exactly do you want Cable to say?

    His answer is nothing happened between him and Hanson related to a broken jaw.

    Are you panties really in a bunch b/c Cable didn’t come out and say, Yeah, I clocked that little punk?

    He denied the accusation, and said it will be handled internally.

    Anything new to add?

  • AddaToon

    Madden,

    There’s basically nothing in the police report. Hanson is not even officially in it. The medical records haven’t been turned over yet. Nobody has come out on record saying Cable actually did it — nobody at least willing to put their name out there…. I read this all in the article above.
    We don’t know much at all.. except your a fu***** dick.

  • http://none The Real MaddenRaider

    JHIll, cable can say whatever he wants, he’s just going to get laughed at when he says to wait till the facts come in when the press is asking him about facts.

  • http://none The Real MaddenRaider

    Oooh, you’re so tough, addatoon. Are you calling me a dick because that’s what’s on your mind 24/7? That explains your frustration. You know, Florida Pete’s intellectual act today makes me think he might be a switch hitter, too. Maybe you too should meet up and get all of this Raider chaos off of your mind. Look at the bright side, you’ll be tops! Between you and Florida Pete, aka Leaping Lanny Poffo?

  • jhill

    laughed at by who?

    I think he could care less about that. I think you are taking “wait until the facts come in” and running with it. Are you really suggesting that Cable should supply the media with the facts? Play into the media game? Now wouldn’t that be stupid?

  • Florida Pete

    there ya go, MR…

    ya lost… you had your ass kicked…

    give it up…

  • AddaToon

    Madden,

    Last time I checked calling someone a ‘dick’ basically meant calling them an ‘asshole,’ which fits well with you. So I don’t know where you got all that gay stuff from… unless it’s on your mind.
    You seem to have this whole fantasy planned out about how me and Florida Pete should meet up…. weird.

  • http://none The Real MaddenRaider

    LOL. JHill’s talking about “the media game”, now. He’s studied journalism, guys. He dropped out of school in the 3rd grade, and joined the Raider Nation, but he can tell you all about the “media game”. He knows about all of this conspiracy stuff.

  • http://none The Real MaddenRaider

    Uh oh, now addatoon has dick and asshole on his mind. Take it to another blog, addatoon. We don’t roll that way here.

  • exlaraiderseasonticketholder

    New post!

  • AddaToon

    Madden I just can’t seem to match wits with you… I present facts, you present insults… I present more facts, you present gay insults!!! I never know how you’ll reply… it’s like playing with a dog, who knows what way they’ll go next? They so much fun!

  • DKnight007

    I find it hilariously pathetic how the media is so anxious to hound on the non story IMO, when in comparison, Big Ben is getting a free pass from the media for possibly raping someone and being part of the cover up. If Big Ben says once or twice, that he won’t answer questions about the alleged rape incident, then the media is so freakin eager to back off….if the Pats cheat their way to 2 possibly 3 super bowl titles….they let BeliCheat and the whole Pats organization off the hook and continue to call Belicheat a “genius”??? James Harrison and Brandon Marshall abuse women and we don’t see the media in their faces and or in their coaches faces in a daily basis…..oh…but once the Raiders are involved in something, it’s time for the haters with no credibility to try and “pile on” huh?

    Ridiculously pathetic isn’t it??

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  • Nordic Raider

    Real Madden is a douche bag. I guess he is too stupid to comprehend that anything you say can be used against you in a court of law. When people point that out, he starts a rant about facts. Here is a fact for you douche bag: when there is a potential to have criminal charges filed against you, it is best to keep your mouth shut and let the lawyers do your talking for you. Since you like to insult people here are a couple for you: go fuck yourself with a pineapple and I hope your mother dies of cancer.

  • encinitasraider

    Thank you for writting and reporting acual facts. This is refreshing compared to sanjose merc news and National Football Post and Nancy Gay crap. Funny how everyone knows something but thier is nothing offical. Washington,Brown,Marshall and Cable will all have the same story and our buddy Hanson have his side. Hanson is trying to Milk Davis and DAVIS IS NO ONE’S COW!!!!

  • RaiderMario420

    Former defensive coordinator Rob Ryan’s portrait of Hanson seemed to confirm Hanson’s relentless pursuit of his dream job.

    “He doesn’t sleep at night, he just studies, studies, studies,” Ryan said Aug. 8, 2007. “And this guy was hired to (break down opponents) for us, personnelwise, and he’s been tremendous. Smartest guy. Like I say, ‘Man, you might be the smartest guy in the National Football League.’ He goes, ‘Well, there are smarter guys out there, but they’re in NASA.’ So, this guy is a huge plus for us.”

    To which Hanson replied, “I feel, maybe, Rob built me up so much that others around me are trying to tear me down. But, you know what? I’m not going to let it happen. You know why? Because I’m a Raider.”
    -Steve Corkran

    Hanson, if you’re a Raider, then know your role and shut your mouth.

  • Nnamdi21

    “Who is this Randy Hanson, guy, anyway?”

    The short answer? He’s a relatively low-level assistant coach who for a short time had the ear of Davis and believed he was a climber in the organization, and has since found out otherwise.

    =======================

    He’s also the eldest and least talented brother of the boy band Hanson.

  • http://RAIDERS Oakglenn

    The facts ARE in. Hanson walked into a door, and went to the hospital. That’s what everyone is saying.