Postgame wrap


News and notes from the Raiders 21-20 loss to the 49ers Saturday night at Candlestick Park:

— Kirk Morrison, out after the first series wearing a sling, said he dislocated his left elbow and will be out a couple of weeks, although it’s worth noting most players are overly optimisitc when it comes to diagnosing their own injuries.

“Someone landed on it. I got up and it was just kind of hanging,” Morrison said.

— There was a lot of conversation about the 49ers gashing the Raiders for 275 yards on 47 carries. Roiokie Glen Coffee led the way with 129 on 16 carries, Michael Robinson had 97 on 14 attempts and Kory Sheets 51 yards on 12 tries.

“I just feel like they had a play. We had an answer for it,” Morrison said. “They just kept hitting us with it. We’re going to work it out this week. We understand we’re going to see that play a lot. It’s a copycat league.”

Said defensive end Greg Ellis: “They were pulling some of the linemen around and we’re just going to look at it. I’m pretty sure the coaches are going to come up[ with a solution to make sure that doesn’t happen again. It wasn’t like they were able to run any play and get yardage on us. That one play, we just didn’t handle it well. They did what they should, they kept doing it one side to the other and they kept having success with it.”

— Robinson gave credit to offensive coordinator Jimmy Raye, and described his philosophy this way: “We’re going to go out there and we’re giong to knock ’em in the mouth! Kick ’em in the teeth, knock ’em in the mouth! He’s always saying that.”

— Cable said the Raiders weren’t necessarily having issues with gaps and discipline, the mantra in exorcising the Rob Ryan years. Instead, tackling was the big issue.

“A couple of those, it was really kind of the same play,” Cable said. “A couple of times we really had guys in the hole who had to just wrap up and they did not do that.”

— Asked if he was concerned about the defensive effort, lineabacker Thomas Howard said, “I don’t lknow if you are going ot sell the farm and move, but there is definitely concern.”

— Jon Alston’s take: “It was basically one person getting cut out of the gap or something like that. These are small things that we have to work on and make ourselves better as a team.”

— Cable said he believed the Raiders left 21 points on the field in the first half, meaning that on either a three-and-out or a series where they got one first down, he saw a sure-thing touchdown. No doubt the Raiders should have scored after Ricky Brown’s intercepted a tipped pass and returned it to the 7.

Instead, the Raiders ran four plays and didn’t score, with Russell coming up empty to Louis Murphy on fourth down.

Brown returned the interception 46 yards but was brought down, much to his chagrin, by quarterback Alex Smith.

“About the only thing that bothered me was that I got caught from behind by the quarterback,” Brown said. “Once I get my legs under me, I’ll be all right.”

— JaMarcus Russell was 7-for-11 for 76 yards but only the only completion to a wide receiver was the touchdown pass to Murphy. Read in my Web exclusive column why he should have finished the first half and been the quarterback for the final 1:59.

— Pad-level was once again an issue. The Raiders, Cable believes, are simply playing too high and its costing them both running the ball and stopping the run. The Raiders ran for 69 yards on 18 carries, with Charlie Frye leading with 16 yards on two carries _ including his 14-yard scoring run.

Darren McFadden carried four times and gained five yards.

“I thought I had an all right game,” McFadden said.

Michael Bush had 15 yards on three carries and starts next week against New Orleans.

“I thought we were very high,” Cable said. “I didn’t think we fit our helmets right in the offensive line.”

— Murphy had two catches for 34 yards, including the 24-yard touchdown reception from Russell on third-and-21 against Nate Clements, one of his tormentors during the four practices in Napa.

“It was just a good call against the coverage that they were playing,” Murphy said. “It just so happened that he bit up on the coverage and left me open in the end zone.”

— Jeff Garcia, Charlie Frye and Bruce Gradkowski each had an interception to go along with Nick Miller’s lost fumble.

“I think we showed some good things and there were some things we need to work on, like the turnovers,” Zach Miller said. “Overall, we just want to have a legit passing game.”

— Terdell Sands could be playing for a roster spot. Undrafted rookie free agent Desmond Bryant played before Sands and has caught Cable’s attention.

“He has consistently gotten better each day over the last two weeks and showed some flash in the Dallas game so we just felt like we’ve just got to continue to push that along,” Cable said. “As long as he can keep delivering it every day like he has, let’s find out how much he’s got.”

— The 49ers’ drive consuming 6:46 of the clock following the Oakland touchdown relegated Garcia to a mere 1:59 of playing time. He guided the Raiders deep into 49ers territory before throwing late and behind Johnnie Lee Higgins, with Allen Rossum getting the interception.

“We had hoped things would work out would be that I’d get about half of the second quarter,” Garcia said. “But, unfortunately, it didn’t work out that way and I was left with about two minutes to go in the half and that’s just how it is.

“There wasn’t really any time to get your feet wet and just have to jump right in an attack. And I love playing the 2-minute situation. I feel like that’s something that I have been able to do successfully throughout my career and we were doing some good things. It just didn’t have the ending that we would have liked at the end of that half but there were some good things that we can take out of it.”

— The Raiders wore a No. 95 on the back of their helmets in memory of linebacker Marquis Cooper, who died at sea after a tragic fishing accident off the coast of Florida.


Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer

  • Brien the General

    Jhill, it isnt the players fault completely on defense eventho Warren sucks as a run stuffing DT. Problem is we running the Al Davis defense. Nothing has changed. We may blitz a little more but dammit the way our scheme is will lead to 150 yard games for RBs all year

  • Brien the General

    Jhill line up wider? That wont work either

  • Brien the General

    Terp the problem with the run defense is the fact they dont value a true NT it seems. The RDE is hardly the problem. The same gashes against the run D happened even when we had bigger RDEs inthe game. The scheme is the problem

  • Ray Ratto mentioned “the business-shoulder block thrown by quarterback Alex Smith that laid out Raiders defensive end Greg Ellis.” Why didn’t you?

  • Raiders 75

    “Now they have time to work on the personnel issues and schemes before the season starts.”

    Everybody has known for the last 5 years the run defense is a sieve. You think that all of the sudden this is news and we need to work on it then you have been living in a cave since 2002.

    Again we drafted WR S WR instead of DT MLB.

  • RogRaiderFan

    rone shouldnt you worry about alex smith passing and not his blocking

  • DKnight007

    Huh….some of you need to wake up. The Raiders running game will be fine this year and they know it.

    No reason to play the two main guys DMC and Bush heavily in this game against the Niners. Especially when these sneaky injuries are starting to pop up.

    Satele is a HUGE cheap upgrade over old and broken down Grove.

    Alex Smith IS a BUST and Ray Ratto is a jackass! lol

  • I have to agree with Brein there is a reason that fat slobs like Grady Jackson ares still hanging around the NFL.

  • Terrapin

    I really only pay attention to the starters & to a lesser extent their backups. I haven’t gone back to watch the game but the starting DTs played well. It was the flanks getting crushed – primarily the RDE area. What the scrubs (soon to be cut) do after them I really don’t care about. Its a waste of energy and focus.

    For that reason I saw the games differently than what the scoreboard dictates.

    Specifically, I think we loss vs Dallas and beat SF – sounds crazy I know, but like I said …I only go by what the starters are doing. If you followed this same theory you would see that in the Art Shell year where we went 4-0 …in reality we loss every damn game! Prelude to a terrible season.

    (but even based on this perspective its still questionable whether they would’ve loss vs Dallas in the real game).

  • DKnight007

    # Brien the General Says:
    August 23rd, 2009 at 12:23 pm

    Terp the problem with the run defense is the fact they dont value a true NT it seems. The RDE is hardly the problem. The same gashes against the run D happened even when we had bigger RDEs inthe game. The scheme is the problem

    ^^^^^^That’s why I’m hoping and praying that Coach Cable and DC Marshall held back on the defensive play calling in this game. There was maybe 2 blitzes the whole game, and I think zero run blitzes….zero CB or safety blitzes….it was a just basic 4 man front with not enough LB’s in the box, and the DE’s were not lined up wide enough. Boschetti seemed like he was the only DT in there who really brings the attitude and effort against the run.

    I’m telling you Boschetti should be starting!

  • priesttj

    Jhill, I was alittle presumptuous last night. I actually watched the 1st qrtr early this morning and I have to agree with Lefty12, it wasn’t as bad as I made out.

    The 1st team defense wasn’t nearly as bad as I thought and T Kelly looks like he’s going to have a good year.

    When we ran the 3/4 front early in the game it was effective. But we missed a couple of gaps and they capitolized on it. The defense marshall is running is still a work in progress but I see what he’s trying to do and I think it’s going to work.

  • priesttj

    It looks like he’s running strictly 4/3 on early downs and giving a 3/4 look occasionally on passing downs.

  • No More Infield or Trolls

    Somewhere LT is licking his chops right now… Fix the run d and we will be competitive. offfense is going to be servicable to begin the season and will get progressively better as russ grows more comfortable and the line gells… Run Fargas between the twenties. Let him pound it but sit him in the red zone. Useless..

  • Terrapin

    btw. The score when the starters were in: Dallas (7) Raiders (3). SF (3) Raiders (7).

  • jhill

    It was as bad as you thought it was Priest. Yeah, there were some good things done on defense, all on pass defense. The bad thing about the first qtr is that the big runs were to the left edge of the defense. They didn’t even start hammering the right side until the 2nd qtr.

  • Teabag

    # Nnamdi21 Says:
    August 23rd, 2009 at 12:07 pm

    Brien the General Says:
    August 23rd, 2009 at 11:59 am
    Satele didnt play well last night I agree. He did the week before. Trust me we upgraded at the C slot since we run the ZBS.


    Not exactly. Against Dallas he was out of position several times on run plays and lost contain too.

    LOL … tell me how an offensive player loses contain….

  • DKnight007

    # priesttj Says:
    August 23rd, 2009 at 12:40 pm

    Jhill, I was alittle presumptuous last night. I actually watched the 1st qrtr early this morning and I have to agree with Lefty12, it wasn’t as bad as I made out.

    The 1st team defense wasn’t nearly as bad as I thought and T Kelly looks like he’s going to have a good year.

    When we ran the 3/4 front early in the game it was effective. But we missed a couple of gaps and they capitolized on it. The defense marshall is running is still a work in progress but I see what he’s trying to do and I think it’s going to work.

    ^^^^^^^As long as DC Marshall mixes up the formations and looks and brings some zone pass and run blitzes, this defense should be better than last years.

    IF Marshall just brings a basic 4 man front with no gap discipline and lack of attitude and effort, then it will be the underachieving inconsistent defense that we have seen the last 5 years.


  • SnB offense defense specialteams

    You are posting comments too quickly. Slow down.

  • From PFT

    “We do [the two-minute drill] so much in practice he’s had it,” Cable said in comments distributed by the 49ers. “Jeff hasn’t. It’s really just the fact that that we wanted to make sure that we had Jeff in the first half. The situation didn’t really matter to me, I just wanted to stay with what the plan was.”

    Shows what a hack jerry is!

  • Thec07

    Did any of you guys see the discharger game. They are starting 2 rooks on the o-line. Rivers got sacked four times. They look awful…..

    LT of the dischargers is done….. They should have kept turner. LT doesnt hit holes with any burst, and goes down without really being hit, which is his trademark.

    Merriman is invisible, he was/is a non factor in the SD
    presason games up to this point. The dishargers think they are going to the SB but i think they are in trouble….

  • jhill

    I guess in the bend but don’t break frame of mind, we could be ok. I think we are going to give up 3 or 4 big runs per game the way it is looking. Let’s just hope that we can keep those runs to 15 yds or less instead of letting them go for big yardage. No I see why we need the best tackler on the team to play FS for us.

  • jhill

    On a positive note, I think our pressure on the QB is without question leaps and bounds better than it was last year.

  • SnB offense defense specialteams

    Its a huge struggle just to post. Later

  • Thec07

    “Merriman is invisible” Because he is off the steroids.

    “LT of the dischargers is done”

    LT is SOFT way too soft, not a guy you would want in the trenches with you if you were at war.

    You always here guys say “I would go into a battle with that guy” They are not talking about LT!!

  • priesttj

    Jhill I saw that, but it was one run that was successful. They tried 5-6 runs at the interior and came up empty. It was when they pulled the OG with two tights and outflanked us that they started to see results. The early run defense they were actually stoutin the interior. So the problem is again technigue and gap responsibility. We were getting outflanked.

  • Teabag

    # Nnamdi21 Says:
    August 23rd, 2009 at 12:07 pm

    Not exactly. Against Dallas he was out of position several times on run plays and lost contain too.

    Still want to know exactly how an offensive player loses contain………. lol

  • DKnight007

    Instead of praising Russell on how good he looked….Jerry predictably tries to spin his performance into a negative about Russell not being in their the last 2 minutes of the 1st half???

    Give me a break….Garcia needed some work and the most the starters will be playing about 3 quarters in the next game.

    Another test for this team is to get them in the mode of thinking about closing out games and playing 4 full quarters.

  • priesttj

    If you go back and look at the 49ers first drive. 1st down run 1yd, 2nd down run 2yds, 3rd pass and we were in a 3/4 front with T Scott up and free he actually rushed in the A-gap. Their first 5-6 runs at the DT’s was un successful.

    Someone said last night had we scored early like we should’ve we may have been able to force them to pass and GAME OVER!!

  • Teabag

    I didn’t see, but, did anybody notice if Tommy Kelly was effective pulling? LOL

  • NoMoreFargas

    I would much rather go to battle with Tomlisnson than fargas any day and how well have we done against Tomlinson anyway until we beat him and the chargers i’ll wait for the trash talking.

  • RaiderRobG

    Hey guys, we have what we have. But to say or act as if this ship has sunk before it’s even set sail is pretty weak. In other words, you’re not the kind of people I’d take into battle with me here in Iraq with all your crying.

    Take a look at some of the positives once in a while. We’re all in agreement that a lot of work needs to be done on defense, both on and off the field, and the front office. But the fact remains we have a team that has some fight in them this year. I’m sure they really want to play for a bunch of cry babies fans that are considering them a lost cause for the season after the second preseason game.

    I don’t like the six years of losing either, but I see this team making progress, and I still maintain this team will win in Oakland against the Chargers on Monday night.

    Hell, if you’re giving up on this team before the season starts, why are you even here?

  • SnB offense defense specialteams

    The mentality on defense SHOULD be to dare opponents to run the ball. Not hope the opponent won’t run it.

  • RaiderRobG

    oh here’s some sweet video from Iraq.

  • 860Todd Christensen

    If ya want to catch the game tonight, it’s on at 10:00 pm, eastern, on the NFL channel.

  • RobG

    Its not a matter of giving up your missing the point no one “Gave UP” we are all still here and excited for the season! I will be at the games this year, will you?

    Some of us are just not as myopic as you and others and realize that we cant stop the run no matter how you want to sugar coat it.

    And any one with a football IQ above 80 will tell you that is a key element of wining games in the NFL.

    We have not through the draft or free agency addressed the issue almost completely ignoring it if you ask me.

    So if you want to believe that a magical leprechaun will appear when the season starts and the issue will go away then by all means its your American right to bury your head in the sand.

    Just because concerned, life long, paying fans voice their concern about our run defense does not mean that we are throwing in the towel. Just means that want the issues addressed.

    Now if you want to perceive that as giving up then you have perception issues. I suggest therapy.

  • OAKlifer

    sup B,

    How you livin cutty??

    Grove was a punk and watching Staele getting in the face of LB on the second level while Darren runs aroud them will be nice to see!!!!