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Raiders leaders and trailers

Some leaders and trailers with regard to Raiders roster spots and starting roles a day after a 21-20 loss to the 49ers at Candlestick Park:

LEADERS

– WR Louis Murphy. We won’t know for sure until Javon Walker shows what he’s got starting Monday, but he has looked like the rookie wideout most ready to start since the day he arrived. That doesn’t mean Darrius Heyward-Bey won’t play a role _ he will _ but Murphy is doing more than clearing out space at the moment. He’s catching passes and producing.

– DT Desmond Bryant. He is going to be given every opportunity to prove he belongs over the next week, as evidenced by his ascension to the second team. Picked up a half sack along with William Joseph, who also is making a move inside at tackle.

– MLB Ricky Brown. Has had a knack for getting his hands on the ball, whether it be batting down passes like he does in practice, or intercepting a pass and returning it 46 yards, as he did against San Francisco.

– TE Brandon Myers. Was supposed to be a blocker, and maybe he is. But he’s a heck of a receiver, and he’s not simply a block-and-release guy. Myers gets downfield and catches the ball in traffic. The Raiders apparently know how to locate tight ends in the draft.

– RB Michael Bush. Carried three times for 15 yards and it’s his turn to start against New Orleans. Justin Fargas (two carries, three yards) and Darren McFadden (four carries, five yards) couldn’t make any headway against the 49ers. Cable blamed the o-line for high pad level.

– QB Jeff Garcia. Cable saw what he needed to see in the last two minutes of the half. Was beginning to wonder if there was a chance Garcia wouldn’t be on the roster at all because of the length of time he missed. He’ll be the backup, with Bruce Gradkowski and Charlie Frye relatively even for No. 3.

TRAILERS

– WR Nick Miller. A bit of a setback for undrafted free agent from Southern Utah as he averaged 17.2 yards on three kickoff returns and fumbled away a punt return, removing any chance of a Raiders comeback at the end.

– RT Cornell Green. The Raiders don’t seem serious about making Erik Pears a competitor for the starting job. Green was illegally downfield for one penalty and had an illegal formation penalty declined because JaMarcus Russell had tripped and been touched down by Manny Lawson. Those aren’t the penalties of a veteran.

– LB Kirk Morrison. A dislocated left elbow may have given Brown the starting job he’s held for the last three years, but truth be told, Brown has been outplaying him in practice of late, anyway.

– DT Terdell Sands. Bumped to third team and Cable said the move was not related to injury.

– FS Michael Huff. Hiram Eugene has been running with the first team most of the time even when Huff was healthy. With Huff not healthy enough to with a hip injury to face San Francisco, he’ll need to make a few big plays to have a chance to start. Making big plays has never been his specialty as a Raider.

Your own contributions are welcome, of course . . .

No practice today. Conference call with Cable scheduled for 5 p.m. and will relay information later this evening . . .

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  • priesttj

    The 49ers first 5 runs at the DT was largely unsuccessful and once Warren and Kelly left for the sidelines that’s when the 49ers running game really took off.

  • Terrapin

    DT Terdell Sands bumped to 3rd team? HA! Try not even makin’ the team. Its been what 2weeks and dude still isn’t listed on the depth chart. Oh let me guess ..they are still forgetting? HA! ..its a message

  • eastbayrider

    I told dudes L.Murphy was the truth.Can somebody tell me why havent the raiders gave Chris Mcalister a call?
    Dude is a shutdown corner which al loves.

  • eastbayrider

    Tony Siragusa right now would be better than any O-Lineman we have right now.

  • Terrapin

    Exactly Priest. I was a bit shocked when you went off on the defense when I was actually defending them mostly last night. The DTs definitely were not the problem as you said. It was the flanks – particularly the RDE area – that was the problem.

    The D was stuffing Gore to little or no gains; but when they found TScott, boy was he abused!

    The most discouraging this is that its the TEs doing a good bit of the abusing save the LT.

  • jhill

    The edge was a problem, and there’s no sugar coating it. We’ll just have to see if it will continue to be a problem, or if Marshall can make the adjustments.

  • No More Infield or Trolls

    Interesting note …•The Chargers have to tighten up their issues on the offensive line. Star quarterback Philip Rivers was sacked four times in the first seven pass attempts. That is not good.

  • No More Infield or Trolls

    Chargers also had special team coverage problems…

  • priesttj

    Terrapin, message is putting it lightly Dez Bryant has beat him out. Joseph is playing much better and Boschetti aint half bad. Sands is looking at getting cut.

    I can’t wait to see Mitchell and I’m definitely ready for some cutdowns. I want to see what this defense really looks like.

  • DKnight007

    I’m glad the Big Terd is has been demoted to 3rd team.

    Boschetti, Joseph and Bryant need to see more time than that underachieving overpaid Terd.

  • http://http://www.mensa.org/ Albert Bigelow Paine

    Had my fantasy draft today. The only Raider I picked up was Heyward-Bey with the second to last pick. I figured, what the hell.

  • http://RAIDERS Oakglenn

    I don’t know Jerry Mac, every scouting report I saw thought Brandon Myers was a good receiver but NOT a good blocker. And from the looks of it, that kid not only can find seams and knows where to sit in zones, but he also has incredibly soft hands. So, if you are right, that makes Al and the Raiders scouting department, incredible uber genuises.

  • http://http://www.mensa.org/ Albert Bigelow Paine

    Al Davis knows how to find TE, CB, and Punters.

  • http://justwinbaby! 909RaiderLifer

    For those of you who can get it, KTLA is showing a re-play of the game NOW…

  • SnB offense defense specialteams

    The mentality on defense SHOULD be to dare opponents to run the ball. Not hope the opponent won’t run it.

    We can debate whether its the DEs or DTs or LBs or a combination, the bottom line is that the TEAM is not stopping the run.

    That will be a big problem with this schedule. Its too late for free agents and the like, Marshall has get these guys coached up. I hope we don’t have to keep hearing about pad level this entire season.

  • Teabag

    # Oakglenn Says:
    August 23rd, 2009 at 1:25 pm

    I don’t know Jerry Mac, every scouting report I saw thought Brandon Myers was a good receiver but NOT a good blocker. And from the looks of it, that kid not only can find seams and knows where to sit in zones, but he also has incredibly soft hands. So, if you are right, that makes Al and the Raiders scouting department, incredible uber genuises.
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    Ive read scouting reports that he was a good blocker, especially in pass protection.

    Which is perfect for a 2 TE set

  • jhill

    Zack Miller should be out in patterns. He’s really not effective blocking

  • Teabag

    Zach is a capable blocker… It just makes no sense to keep him in when he can really eat up a defense

  • 860Todd Christensen

    FYI, the game will be on the NFL channel at 10pm, eastern, tonight….

  • Mistabrown

    Marshall is doing ZERO game planning. Dont forget this a new scheme players are still learning it. Marshall is weeding out the dead weight. I guarantee if R Ryan still the DC Sands would be on the first team with pizza attaboys from Rob!

    We are not going to sit back in that read & react mode we have been in the last 5 years. Those days are over we are going to get after the Qb. With those corners & T Howard theres no reason why we shouldn’t be sending the FKN house!

    Myers is a nice surprise lets see him sustain it.

    Jerry fix this FKN blog !

  • jhill

    I’m looking at Miller blocking right now, and it’s not impressive.

    Don’t get me wrong, it’s more about how much better he is out in the pattern. But on some of these run plays, let’s just say he’s not a factor.

  • Mistabrown

    860, who the FK wants to watch that again ?

    Thanks for the heads up though!

  • jhill

    The problem with the posting comments probably won’t get fixed. The hits have probably gone through the sky with all the F5ing we are doing.

  • DKnight007

    # Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
    August 23rd, 2009 at 1:24 pm

    Had my fantasy draft today. The only Raider I picked up was Heyward-Bey with the second to last pick. I figured, what the hell.

    ^^^^^^Zach Miller, DMC and Bush should have been looked at.

    Chaz would have been a nice late round pick, but he is out 4-6 weeks obviously.

  • priesttj

    The fact that we have 3 TE’s capable of getting out and catching passes makes us very versatile. Not to mention Marcel Reece has become a possible recieving threat along with Luke Lawton. Russell seem sto be getting very comfortable with check downs and screens something some (Jerry) said he couldn’t do.

    Like Terrapin is saying though if you critically watch the game you’ll see we have the ability to stop the run. I think all of us are hyper-sensative the run D and for good reason but when you look at that game until the starters came out and they strted to attack the perimeter they struggled to run especially at Warren and Kelly. They attacked the perimeter.

  • 860Todd Christensen

    Mista, it wasn’t available on the East Coast last night, will watch tonight though…..

  • http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo249/the408RAIDER/749px-I-420svg.png 408RAIDER

    Ok Im over it… It was just a preseason game..

  • 860Todd Christensen

    FREE DIRTY on the 28th! How ya doing 408? How’s the princess?

  • Mistabrown

    Brown might be out playing KM but does he have the size of a MLB? It doesnt look like it to me. I like him in the nickle package with only 2 LB’s but in the base package I want more beef helping with the run.

  • SnB offense defense specialteams

    It shouldn’t take a PH’D dissertation to find the bright spots with this run defense. I am tired of capble. I want a defense that doesn’t give up 140+yds per game on the ground.

    Cable, Howard and Morrison alluded to problems. The damn 49ers ran the same play.

    They have a lot of work to do and not too much time to do it. I don’t want to have to hear about pad level all year.

  • http://RAIDERS Oakglenn

    # priesttj Says:
    August 23rd, 2009 at 1:45 pm

    Like Terrapin is saying though if you critically watch the game you’ll see we have the ability to stop the run. I think all of us are hyper-sensative the run D and for good reason but when you look at that game until the starters came out and they strted to attack the perimeter they struggled to run especially at Warren and Kelly. They attacked the perimeter.
    —————————————————-

    I think this is exactly right. What we are now seeing is teams attacking the outside and let’s be honest, the LB corp has not up to the challenge. That leaves the safeties to come up in support, which is what happened last year, and we all know how that worked out. So now we have Howard who appears to be a suspect run defender, Morrison out, and a very undersized Alston potentially on the other side.

    Teabag, I guess I should’ve clarified that a little. Iowa guys are going to be decent blockers by default and Myers has good size and excellent upper body strength. He also runs a 4.7 forty which is decent for a guy his size. I think the guy has great hands. Nice prospect.

  • http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo249/the408RAIDER/749px-I-420svg.png 408RAIDER

    all is good 860.. Im liking what I see from this new kid Myers…

    FREE DIRTY!!!

  • Thec07

    FREE DIRTY NOW DAMN IT….

  • http://RAIDERS Oakglenn

    SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
    August 23rd, 2009 at 1:54 pm

    It shouldn’t take a PH’D dissertation to find the bright spots with this run defense. I am tired of capble. I want a defense that doesn’t give up 140+yds per game on the ground.
    ——————————————————

    You mean 140 yards on the ground in the lst half right?

  • Crow

    Not that Oakland has a lot of options, but why is Scott still starting?

  • Thec07

    Jerry, you need to go back to the servers that were hit with the virus. You guys must have missed something in the new config. Doesnt look like you guys have an effective DR in place. The rebuilt or new servers are not letting everyone post at the same time. Makes it appear that we are posting commenst to fast when the DB server cant register the transactions long fast enough. Did you guys switch The DB server to a diffrent platform????? You guys need to get some “REAL” guys to fix this crap….

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAaQNACwaLw Raider75

    Fix the damn board Jerry.

  • Thec07

    Contracosta times, Hire some guys who know WTF they are doing. You lose your main server and dont have a backup or any kind of DR.

    Instead of investing in the newspapers which no one reads anymore, try investing in a consultant team that can fix your problems the bay area is full of them one on every corner. i bet my boy 408 knows some folks that could put this issues to bed in less than 4 hours.

    Jerry get the site fixed….Jerry get the DAMN SITE FIXED!!!

  • http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo249/the408RAIDER/749px-I-420svg.png 408RAIDER

    sup thec?? I think my hangover is gone now…LOL
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    arrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr slow this down!! Ufck thats soooo annoying!!

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAaQNACwaLw Raider75

    I live in TX. Only Cowboys fans around here. I enjoy blogging here on Game Day because I like talking about the game with other fans.

    I could not post for the entire 1st half last night.

    FIX THE DAMN BOARD JERRY!

  • http://RAIDERS Oakglenn

    # Crow Says:
    August 23rd, 2009 at 2:08 pm

    Not that Oakland has a lot of options, but why is Scott still starting?
    ——————————————————

    You can’t really call him starting cause these games don’t count, but to answer your question, I’m sure they are just seeing what he can do against the ones. Apparently, it’s not much. At least not against the run.

  • Thec07

    408, what up Bro??????? Hey 8, could you refer some code heads, DB guys to jerry. The Staff the contracosta times dont know WTF they are doing. I could have put one of my teams on it and the problem would have been solved from day one.

  • Thec07

    I am out guys this refresh stuff doesnt work….

  • HayesDaze37

    Man, it’s a great day to be a Raiders fan. Isn’t it?

    Brown doesn’t look like a monster, but he’s playing like he could be one. Hopefully, his body can take the pounding inside — especially since he knows he’s expected to be more aggressive at the point of attack.

    The next few weeks will be interesting to watch kids like Norris and Nixon…to see if either, or both, of them can make a real case for playing more than Special Teams this year.

    Prediction: Against N.O., Michael Bush will prove he SHOULD be the #1 ball-carrier for this team. We know it’s not Fargas — as Cable’s let him play himself out of the job. And we know McFadden is NOT the banger Lance wanted him to be.

    It doesn’t matter which of the 3 primary RB’s “starts” a game…but MBush should be getting at least the same amount of CARRIES (not touches) as DMC over the year. If he definitively puts the hammer down this game, Bush cannot be kept off the field.

    ?? Did somebody say the Raiders know how to find TE’s in the draft??

    It’s entirely possible the NFL will be acknowledging the Raiders STILL know how to draft players all over the field later this year.

    It’s a great YEAR to be a Raiders fan!

  • NCRaiderFan

    PLAY THE BOARD OFF KEYBOARD CAT
    The posting server is crapola

  • http://justwinbaby! 909RaiderLifer

    To borrow a phrase from Florida Pete…..

    Who’s going to stop the run?…………

  • http://justwinbaby! 909RaiderLifer

    Jerry…

    Someone needs to knock your server into a file cabinet…

  • http://justwinbaby! 909RaiderLifer

    Wow!! got two posts in a row through, better quit while I’m ahead..

  • raidertay

    The running game has been a concern since the Dalas game. 49ers just made it a lil more obvious. I still think the T. Scott needs to be replaced by Jay Richardson on running downs.

    DHB certaninly nt going to be ready to assist us antime soon. Murphey may. I definitely hope we see A LOT of 2 TE sets. Meyers on one end and ZMiller on the other. Helps the running game and is proabbly our best passing formation until Chaz comes bak.

  • Twocents

    Things I want to see next week out of the first units:
    *somebody starting at RT not named Green
    *opening drive that results in six points
    *Walker playing well
    *Shaughnessy at RDE

    Also I’d like to see Mitchell take the field at some point. Otherwise I fear it’s IR for him.