Raiders claim Cohen, waive Horton
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Tuesday, August 25th, 2009 at 6:10 pm in Oakland Raiders.
A relatively minor transaction to report _ the Raiders have waived CB Jason Horton, hobbled of late by turf toe, and claimed DT Joe Cohen.
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August 25th, 2009 at 6:13 pm
Looking for DT’s off the scrap heap?
They better try and sign every broken down DT than get their hands on.
August 25th, 2009 at 6:16 pm
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August 25th, 2009 at 6:23 pm
Who’s going to be the first to start hyping Joe Cohen?
August 25th, 2009 at 6:25 pm
ME!
August 25th, 2009 at 6:27 pm
Ya ok Kell,..first of all, not me, or anyoen in your real world takes you seriously,…youre just a middle aged man who spends alot of time on the internet,..thats a little odd in itself,…sounds like youre strugglin today so I will leave you alone,..hang in there old timer.
August 25th, 2009 at 6:31 pm
El Dirty,
Was Elvis lying? The warden didn’t throw a party in the county jail?
August 25th, 2009 at 6:35 pm
Now we decide to go after tackles. It is like showing up to the outlet mall in January when everything is sold out looking for a deal.
Wow, how typical!
August 25th, 2009 at 6:39 pm
Twocents
I’m sure they had a spread when I left
August 25th, 2009 at 6:41 pm
A relatively minor transaction to report _ the Raiders have waived CB Jason Horton, hobbled of late by turf toe, and claimed DT Joe Cohen.
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claimed???
was there a mad rush for this guy???
this is a waste of time…
Corey Williams, please…
August 25th, 2009 at 6:42 pm
Hey guys stop worrying about a DT.
Priest & his left b00b Oakglen will be in later tonight to explain how Cohen is a future hall of famer with tremendous upside.
August 25th, 2009 at 6:43 pm
El Dirty,
Welcome home, throw your own damn party.
August 25th, 2009 at 6:45 pm
Cohen was a Gator apparently.
August 25th, 2009 at 6:48 pm
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August 25th, 2009 at 6:48 pm
Twocents,
Thanks I did last night… almost got sent back already… Tequila, Jeager, and Jack is going to take some getting used to again.
August 25th, 2009 at 6:55 pm
looks like the saints will play the starters till the 3rd quarter
http://www.nola.com/saints/index.ssf/2009/08/new_orleans_saints_
now its time to really see what were made out of!
August 25th, 2009 at 7:01 pm
joe cohen 6′2 310
played at florida, 4th round draft pick from the whiners
played in the Army All-American Bowl in ‘03
never seen the guy play so ain’t hyped up about him but lets hope he can stop the run.
August 25th, 2009 at 7:06 pm
HERE IS A BIO ON MR COHEN..
http://recruiting.scout.com/a.z?s=73&p=8&c=1&nid=2566367
August 25th, 2009 at 7:07 pm
I can see that forcing people to log into this site did a lot of good.
August 25th, 2009 at 7:09 pm
zach miller breakout year
http://espn.go.com/blog/nflnation/category/_/name/emerging-stars
August 25th, 2009 at 7:11 pm
Seriously, does anyone know anything about Cohen.
Jerry how about a lil more news then a simple cut and paste from the Transcation page.
1. Who did he play for?
2. Has he had any descent year?
3. Where did he to School? What RD was he drafted?
I realize he is probably a lil scrub, but can you atleast cut and paste a lil more. Is that askin too much??
August 25th, 2009 at 7:15 pm
Cohen
Neg:
plays laterally and struggles redirecting to ball carriers. Not fast to the sidelines…..worthless wont be able to stop teams that are consistently running sweeps down our throats……7-9
August 25th, 2009 at 7:21 pm
Miller can very easily be an emerging star,..however, Russell isnt going to be accurate enough to get him big numbers…Denny Green confirmed what I always believed about russell,…big arm, terrible accuracy,…start Garcia,..sorry brien.
August 25th, 2009 at 7:22 pm
useless transaction hes going to be gone before his bags are unpacked, heres your paycheck theres the door.
August 25th, 2009 at 7:28 pm
Bob, Green didnt say terrible it was inconsistent accuracy…..Damn Santana looked fried
August 25th, 2009 at 7:29 pm
I missed the Carlos Santana spot,…but Green was clear,..doesnt like Russell,..cant make all throws,..bad accuracy….but we already knew that, some in here are still in denial though,..not me.
August 25th, 2009 at 7:32 pm
bush you forgot,
Pos:
Tough, run-defending plugger who is rarely off his feet. Quickly gets off the snap with a nice first step, breaks down well bending his knees and gets leverage on opponents. Possesses a short burst of speed.
don’t underestimate him yet.
August 25th, 2009 at 7:34 pm
why he get cut then?
August 25th, 2009 at 7:36 pm
Yo dirty! Is this the 4 real dirty or did some troll jack ur name. Free dirty
August 25th, 2009 at 7:41 pm
Russell can make all the throws, just not accurately, just not all the time.
You have to admit that the throw to Murphy was a thing of beauty.
I don’t think he’ll ever be Joe Montana. But he might be JaMarcus Russell.
August 25th, 2009 at 7:43 pm
On phone need 2 switch 2 laptop
August 25th, 2009 at 7:47 pm
Just goes to show how concerned the coaches are about this D-Line. Its not a deep line and has no signature player…no signature players in the front 7. And that’s the problem. There is no player on the front 7 that the opponent has to look out for or game plan against. Thereby allowing the opponent to do what it does best without having to make too many nagging adjustments.
Look, we have what we have. We all knew the D-Line was an issue. all we can do is trust in the coaches. They are the ones that said this team is ready to roll.
I just want to see DHB get a couple of catches and Mitchell to play a game!
August 25th, 2009 at 7:49 pm
tazZraider Says:
August 25th, 2009 at 7:32 pm
bush you forgot,
Pos:
Tough, run-defending plugger who is rarely off his feet. Quickly gets off the snap with a nice first step, breaks down well bending his knees and gets leverage on opponents. Possesses a short burst of speed.
don’t underestimate him yet.
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I wouldn’t overestimate him either. This guy would still be unemployed if not for turf toe to some guy named Jason Horton and the draft choices make by Al Davis.
August 25th, 2009 at 7:49 pm
idk why he got cut. He got cut by miami and miami runs a 34 maybe he isn’t suitable for 34 but just because he got cut doesn’t mean we can underestimate his value.
August 25th, 2009 at 7:54 pm
cohen wont even get in a laundry day before hes gone again we should have taken brace with our 2nd round pick
August 25th, 2009 at 7:55 pm
im not overestimating him either. im not even sold on this guy. all im saying is that we signed this guy for the right reason because he is a run stuffer and thats what we need on the dline
August 25th, 2009 at 8:01 pm
sounds like a future pro bowler
or not
August 25th, 2009 at 8:05 pm
Stop your crying!!! lol
So we didnt draft a DT this year, and the DTs we have are sorry!!!
We drafted a QB, RB, and a WR. Next year will focus more on Run Defense and OT. We don’t need anything else, and we are still hound and not ready to compete for a SB!
August 25th, 2009 at 8:14 pm
2 things we needed to fix before 09 draft:
- Pass Offense
- Run Defense
We are scoring points, we added 2 WRs in the 1st 4 RDs, a Blocking TE, so the problem is fixed. (for now)
we added a few players on D, but we we need a few more.
August 25th, 2009 at 8:17 pm
We can’t fix everything with 1 Draft, but we did try.
We drafted a hard hitting SS, 2 DEs, and 1 LB.
August 25th, 2009 at 8:18 pm
yeah i think our pass offense is gonna be way better than last year. the run d is terrible but im hoping this cohen guy can make a difference to it.
August 25th, 2009 at 8:19 pm
Hound: young, sorry.
August 25th, 2009 at 8:22 pm
Taz,
I don’t know if he can make a difference, but we are trying.
We need to try harder ( trade picks, we have 2 3rds), or wait till next year.
August 25th, 2009 at 8:22 pm
408
You still there?
August 25th, 2009 at 8:27 pm
I like Pete’s idea of trading for Corey Williams, maybe a 3rd & 5th will get it done.
August 25th, 2009 at 8:27 pm
Only 2 guys I remember that we had that were DTs that were affective on the line……..chester mcglokcton hahaha spelling that was fun and my favorite Darrell Russell what a damn tragedy could have been great……. all these no name water boys we have on he line… sands, broshuito, and joseph all tubs of lard that plays too high gets pushed like a sack of potatos and can’t stop the run…. we really need to focus on the dline and oline next year
August 25th, 2009 at 8:29 pm
Will the REAL El Dirty please stand up?! lol
August 25th, 2009 at 8:29 pm
Hey how old is corey willams?
August 25th, 2009 at 8:33 pm
D Russell would have been a great DT. 6′5 330, and ran a 4.85!!!!
RIP D Russell
August 25th, 2009 at 8:34 pm
Let wait till the Giants,Ravens and Squeelers cut some of thier back up DT’s and LB’s since those teams are real deep at those positions
August 25th, 2009 at 8:35 pm
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August 25th, 2009 at 8:35 pm
HA HA
It’s Me cant be trolled MUHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
August 25th, 2009 at 8:37 pm
Great idea # 52, or trade for the player if we think he has talent. Other teams will be interested.
August 25th, 2009 at 8:39 pm
Welcome home my friend.
August 25th, 2009 at 8:41 pm
Did you see little Mitchy in there? lol
August 25th, 2009 at 8:43 pm
Little Mitchy from skyline, and Big June. You know?
August 25th, 2009 at 8:43 pm
Thanks O, its been a minute but all is well.
August 25th, 2009 at 8:52 pm
Hearing some good things here of Bryant so I took the liberty to watch some more of the SF game focusing on him.
First thing that jumped out to me was just how quick this guy is off the snap. He’s almost a half second ahead of everybody. He plays with really good leverage. He’s not stout enough to play over center against starters yet but he has lots of potential. Right now he may even be quick enough to play right or left DE. (Not sure if he has the moves though).
Second thing that jumped at me was just how much Sands sucks. He’s cut. I’m even more confident of that now.
August 25th, 2009 at 8:57 pm
Well maybe not DE. I’m not sure if he’s that quick b/c the DE has just a bit more space to cover so it takes a just a little bit more than a quick spurt or a quick pop to get there.
August 25th, 2009 at 9:21 pm
T,
I think he can play Base End. LE
August 25th, 2009 at 9:22 pm
Its Slow tonight!
August 25th, 2009 at 9:23 pm
Terrapin
is it possible if you or any of the brothers can post/send the games to {Justin tv}….its sucks that cant see replay of Raider games in europe,only if your real lucky
cheif and charger fans just keep posting their games there and it`s making me sick….
August 25th, 2009 at 9:26 pm
Are all of you “fans” going to be at the coliseum saturday?…our tailgate will be off the hinges,..lots of liquor, beer,..pot,..pills,..and bar b q,..oh and lots of loud metal….come by!
August 25th, 2009 at 9:31 pm
Bob
do u still know whats going on in the actual game…after that?
August 25th, 2009 at 9:39 pm
No not really…this year, just like the past 6 or so, we drink alot more then we should, and smoke more grass,..pop pills,…as I have said,..its a great day, however the part from 1:00 to 4:00 is by far the worst part.
August 25th, 2009 at 9:57 pm
ok i get it …hahaha
hope we win soon,for your health there
August 25th, 2009 at 10:10 pm
Mistabrown Says:
August 25th, 2009 at 6:42 pm
Hey guys stop worrying about a DT.
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missed-a-brain, why do you come here?? Every time you come here I shi* in your face. Little kids sh** in your face. You are known AROUND THE WORLD as the guy who gets shat in the face. Why do you come here?
August 25th, 2009 at 10:13 pm
Next year’s draft:
DT, DT, DE, MLB, ORT, ORG, PR/KR
August 25th, 2009 at 10:16 pm
JB, it seems you’re pretty close here. I would say, DE, ILB, OL, DL, DL, DL, DL, DL.
August 25th, 2009 at 10:19 pm
Oakglen
Like they say, tomato or tomato’. The message is the same. On paper, we look golden everywhere else. Those are the missing pieces.
August 25th, 2009 at 10:20 pm
exactly.
August 25th, 2009 at 10:27 pm
Kelley & Warren really need to step it up this year. Sands & Joseph are crap. We need to find the beef and put it in the middle. I think we’ll be seeing Ricky Brown as the #1 MLB with Morrison slipping over to the SSLB position. The combination of Morrison, Brown & Howard should work well. We are gold at corners and hopefully our safeties can get it together quickly. I’d really like to see what Mike Mitchell brings to the table. Assuming he can progress quickly, we might see both Branch and Mitchell in tandem. IIt might even work.
Stop the run! Defense wins championships!
August 25th, 2009 at 10:30 pm
What’s the latest on Chaz Schilens? How long will he be out? He was just really coming into his own.
August 25th, 2009 at 10:45 pm
Joseph at least is playing like he wants to be in the NFL. Don’t expect to see Mitchell before game 10. SS might be the toughest position to learn in the NFL other than Q. Chilens is gone til week 5-6, which is a HUGE problem. Time for “jivin” to get back to form, and quickly.
August 25th, 2009 at 10:49 pm
Good to see the raiders admit they need D line help but, its a little late.
August 25th, 2009 at 11:04 pm
Oakglenn Says:
August 25th, 2009 at 10:10 pm
Mistabrown Says:
August 25th, 2009 at 6:42 pm
Hey guys stop worrying about a DT.
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missed-a-brain, why do you come here?? Every time you come here I shi* in your face. Little kids sh** in your face. You are known AROUND THE WORLD as the guy who gets shat in the face. Why do you come here?
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Why is it those posters who show up with pea shooters believe that stating it’s really a cannon covers up the fact they’re basically unarmed?
Dude..you run that same stupid crap with everyone who slaps your inept ass down.
You’re a clown, Oakglenn.
Stop with the “I did so and so”. I sent you into hiding, and that was your same reply.
And then you went back to the silly say nothing wimpy insults.
You’re defenseless.
Everyone knows it.
Accept it, Gumby.
August 25th, 2009 at 11:05 pm
77. may be just camp fodder…need a MLB…
August 25th, 2009 at 11:15 pm
Raider O Says:
August 25th, 2009 at 8:17 pm
We can’t fix everything with 1 Draft, but we did try.
We drafted a hard hitting SS, 2 DEs, and 1 LB.
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i hate to disagree…
we spent the entire draft drafting second teamers…
an excellent strategy if you’re set with your first team…
but we were 31st against the run…
keep your eyes on Raji… Brace… and Brinkley…
all of those guys did well last week…
how did DHB do… how about Mitchell???
i think we pissed away nearly an entire draft…
August 25th, 2009 at 11:19 pm
wait hold on, i don’t think chaz is going to be gone till week 5 or 6. I think it was 3 or 4. If it’s 5 and 6 then your right its definitely a problem
August 25th, 2009 at 11:21 pm
If the reaiders pass more then 15 times a game then we have no cjance of winning,…we need at least 200 yards a game rushing to stand a chance…I believe 200 rushing yards is possible.
August 25th, 2009 at 11:23 pm
Pete,..your asking how did dhb and mitchell did?…are you awate theres been no games yet?…you really cant evaluate them after the seasons over,…and certainly cant evaluate them when there hasnt even been a fukkin game yet!!!…people in florida are easily the dumbest in the usa.
August 25th, 2009 at 11:24 pm
I know this is going to be met with disagreement and some anger (then why say it?)but frm what I can see this year so far this team NEEDS a MLB and a SLB. Give me Aaron Curry and Rey Maualuga (I don’t want much do I?)based on where they were drafted. We could’ve had both. This would be a very different team. I see things a little differently. When I watch this defense the LBers drive me insane. The next time I see a LBer shoot a gap will be the first time. We don’t come off the edge with any ferocity, we don’t fill with any degree of aggressiveness. When we hit we don’t hit with any degree of aggressiveness. Our LBers throughout our history have been difference in our defense. These guy’s get pushed around and attacked by everyone. The only time they play with any degree aggression is in the passing game (coverage).
I persoanlly see our LBers the same way I saw the safeties 3 years ago now we have potentially great safety play but the LBer play leaves a lot to be desired.
Our Dlineman can’t afford to be too aggressive because they have no one behind them capable of being a force.
Now I say all that realizing that our DE’s need to be better, but I see the potenial for them to be much better THIS year with the emergence of Matt and Dez. I don’t see that with our LBers. We may need another DE due to the age of Ellis. But I would trade Rickey Brown and Kirk for Rey Maualuga, straight up.
August 25th, 2009 at 11:28 pm
Garcia should start now…however he wont,..but, after a blowout loss in opener, I ama predicting thats russells only game starting,.I feel the raiders plan on playing garcia this year, but they know the openers a loss so they will trot out 2 then after game use him as scapegoat, make qb change.
August 25th, 2009 at 11:29 pm
TJ,..monday will you call gary and talk raiders football?
August 25th, 2009 at 11:30 pm
Norco Bob Says:
August 25th, 2009 at 11:23 pm
Pete,..your asking how did dhb and mitchell did?…are you awate theres been no games yet?…you really cant evaluate them after the seasons over,…and certainly cant evaluate them when there hasnt even been a fukkin game yet!!!…people in florida are easily the dumbest in the usa.
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Norc…
there have been games… preseason games…
but let’s put aside the fact that DHB is an expensive luxury (we already had JLH and Schillens)…
and let’s put aside the fact that Mitchell probably won’t play this year…
and let’s focus on the fact that neither of these guys are ever going to stop the run…
ever…
August 25th, 2009 at 11:32 pm
Youre kidding right?…in preseason most teams dont even run plays or schemes they will in season…preseason is nothing,…those players in 3rd and 4th qt at niner game wont be the ones not tackling in reg season.
August 25th, 2009 at 11:32 pm
TJ,..will you call gary monday?…by the way why didnt you tell mike taylor to draft muualuga?
August 25th, 2009 at 11:32 pm
How does anyone NFL Team compete depending on 200 yds per game on the ground?
You don’t think NFL Defensive Coordinators can plan against a one-dimensional team?
Stfu, you dope addict fool.
August 25th, 2009 at 11:35 pm
Who is Chilens and who is Jivin?
# Oakglenn Says:
August 25th, 2009 at 10:45 pm
Joseph at least is playing like he wants to be in the NFL. Don’t expect to see Mitchell before game 10. SS might be the toughest position to learn in the NFL other than Q. Chilens is gone til week 5-6, which is a HUGE problem. Time for “jivin” to get back to form, and quickly.
August 25th, 2009 at 11:36 pm
Kell I didnt say a team would compete based on needing 200 yards,..I said the raiders need that to compete,..hey kell whats your level of education?…I dont think you attended college.
August 25th, 2009 at 11:37 pm
Kell did you really type stfu?…lol…you really think I would do anything you said?…youre a bitter person man, you need to lighten up some, goin through life angry all the time isnt healthy…get high, drink a beer, chill out man.
August 25th, 2009 at 11:38 pm
chilens is schilens and jivin is javon
August 25th, 2009 at 11:38 pm
Joe Cohen
Quick wit, easy going demeanor. High character. “A coaches dream.”
Transitioned from a FB to DT in 2004. Sat behind some very good linemen for the Gators and saw little field time. Needs work in every facet but an effective gap shooting run plugger. Impressive strength. Good quickness, lower body strength. His short stature lends itself to better leverage which he uses well. Needs work on every aspect of the position as one could imagine.
Gets washed and wired to blockers on occasion.
Needs to use hands to fight off blocks better.
Inexperience wading thru the garbage and with lateral movement.
A 3 technique in the 4-3.
A project.
The 3-4 Miami runs now could be partial reason for his release.
August 25th, 2009 at 11:39 pm
Rob Ryan couldn’t game plan against 1 dimensional offenses. You could even argue he couldn’t game plan 0 dimensional offenses. Remember Rex Grossman & the Bears ?
Or The Texans without A Johnson, Schaub, and Green.
KoolKell Says:
August 25th, 2009 at 11:32 pm
How does anyone NFL Team compete depending on 200 yds per game on the ground?
You don’t think NFL Defensive Coordinators can plan against a one-dimensional team?
August 25th, 2009 at 11:45 pm
Bob, I think when Rey was still there at #6 in the 2nd rnd I think the Raiders knew they had him and then Cinci kicked us in the stomach. We then traded down and took Mitchell which at that point I think we did with some frustration having lost out on Rey, but we at least picked up a pick. But Mitchell IMO was a must do at that point.
Why do i have to call Gary I’ve already called Rod and Bob Fitz yesterday? Listen, I don’t think Gary wants hardcore fooball on his show.
Watching Eugene at FS I’ve been impressed he is a sure tackler and plays under control. He also plays very sound coverage, not to mention that I lve the kids size and athleticism.
August 25th, 2009 at 11:49 pm
Come on Louis Murphy!
August 25th, 2009 at 11:51 pm
TJ how dare you call those haters,…those two aholes arent worthy a phone call, and besides that, you cutt your teeth with gary, and gary doesnt like his callers calling other shows,..but I squaredthings between you two,..its ok to call now.
August 25th, 2009 at 11:51 pm
94. Eugene’s been kind of a disappointment so far this pre. Made some noise last year in limted action, makes an occasional big hit and has far too many TD saving tackles…
August 25th, 2009 at 11:52 pm
I can’t wait to see if this offense can actually score points in a game that matters, the best remedy for a poor run defense is a high power offense. Colts proved that in 2007 won sb after finishing season 31st against the run.
August 25th, 2009 at 11:54 pm
Mistabrown we beat the Texans 31 to 10 we als shut down Fav-rey. While what he did from a fundamental standpoint was unconcious he did have some sound gameplans. I think his weakness was playcalling and teaching fundamentals. He has a lot to prove as a DC but saying he’s stupid is at best ignorant. You don’t coach at that level and be stupid…………period
As fans we think we know everything because we know what direction the offense is going in. No HC or owner or GM is ging to pay money and put their job on the line hiring an idiot…………period
August 25th, 2009 at 11:59 pm
Nnamdi21, clue me in? how does making TD saving tackles make him a disappointment? Seems contrary to me.
August 26th, 2009 at 12:01 am
TJ when do you think garcia takes over?…and please call Gary monday. I will listen.
August 26th, 2009 at 12:04 am
IMO it would really help jmarc if he would learn to use a pump fake once in a while…….it might help a little………his tendency to stare down receivers is going to get him in a lot of trouble when playing against veteran safties
August 26th, 2009 at 12:04 am
Bob, stop it, please just stop it?
Garcia take over what? toilet detail?
He was horrible and is actually in danger of getting cut.
August 26th, 2009 at 12:05 am
priesttj Says:
August 25th, 2009 at 11:59 pm
Nnamdi21, clue me in? how does making TD saving tackles make him a disappointment? Seems contrary to me.
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His pre season has been disappointing so far. The fact he’s HAD to make so many TD saving tackles is the problem!
August 26th, 2009 at 12:06 am
remember we got rashad baker back. even though he can’t tackle for shit he really filled in for us at that free safety spot.
August 26th, 2009 at 12:06 am
99. (Ahem) Lane Kiffin…
August 26th, 2009 at 12:08 am
No TJ I disagree, I think Garcia takes over after opner loss, by the way my score prediction is chargers win it easily,..about like 45-13…..I will have Gary on all morning so please call and talk raiders,..and please mention me. Thanks.
August 26th, 2009 at 12:10 am
I also believe Cable doesnt finish season,…due to stress from 1-8 start, and assault case, he quits,..Hacket and Tollner both take over as co-head coaches,..then finally davis rights a wrong and we get grden back in 2010 and the good times return!!
August 26th, 2009 at 12:11 am
Priest, I was talking about the Texan & Bear games from the year before last. I thought you watch all the games, my bad!
August 26th, 2009 at 12:16 am
I cut my teeth with WHO?? what makes you think I cut my teeth with Gary?
I cut my teeth on sprts talk radio looong before Gary ever had a show. I used to call Dave Newhouse back in the 80’s we used to argue over the 49ers going to their first ever SB run. I never ever really called Gary’s show I called Pete Franklin’s show and that’s when I became well known. When I first started calling sportsphone 68 it wasn’t even 24 hours a day, it started at noon back when Mike Cleary was on in the morning.
Bob you’ve really got me twisted. Gary is a johnnie come lately.
August 26th, 2009 at 12:17 am
Edward Kennedy died.
Empty headed liberals unite, have a moment of silence.
Chappaquiddick;
After the body was found, Kennedy gave a statement to police saying that on the previous night he had taken a wrong turn and accidentally driven his car off a bridge into the water. He pled guilty to a charge of leaving the scene of an accident after causing injury, and received a suspended sentence.
The incident became a national scandal, and may have affected the Senator’s decision not to run for President in 1972.
August 26th, 2009 at 12:19 am
Ya but Gary made you famous so you should be loyal to him, not fitz and brooks.
August 26th, 2009 at 12:19 am
Thanks mista,..for teds bio, we never would have known any of that if not for you. dumbass.
August 26th, 2009 at 12:20 am
man i think cable is gonna finish this whole season. I would love to have gruden coach the raiders again but as long as al is owner it ain’t gonna happen
August 26th, 2009 at 12:21 am
Priest also called Dan Selio and Ron & Don! His best work (sarcastically speaking) is the post game show after a Raider loss.
August 26th, 2009 at 12:22 am
No,..TJ`s best work was with Gary, Gary brings the best out of TJ,…but gary banned him for a while, I got TJ back and he has never thanked me.
August 26th, 2009 at 12:22 am
Bob its good to revisit history from time to time. Take a pill, have some coke & and STFU.
August 26th, 2009 at 12:25 am
Well mista, you typing out teds past acts was a poor attempt to show you are more then just footnall, but your attempt failed, unless it was your goal to show us all you are a very disgruntled man.
August 26th, 2009 at 12:26 am
Nnamdi21, I’m confused, how is that HIS fault he’s doing exactly what he’s supposed to do. he’s the last line of defense. The fact that he gets it done is what is impressive. It’s the LBers fault that he’s making so many.
August 26th, 2009 at 12:26 am
Gruden is better served in the booth on MNF. He’s going to be good! He was overrated as a coach. His dink & dunk conservative offense sucks.
August 26th, 2009 at 12:26 am
Ya mista the O we now have is soooo much better. lol
August 26th, 2009 at 12:27 am
I will take dink and dunk over three and out anyday.
August 26th, 2009 at 12:30 am
Bob I didnt type anything I cut & pasted it. I didnt attempt anything. You are reaching. I was just paying tribute to Edward Kennedy for his accomplishment. No big deal..
August 26th, 2009 at 12:31 am
No the Offense we have now is in a building mode with alot of young talent & a questionable lump for a Qb.
I didnt like Grudens offense Bob.
August 26th, 2009 at 12:33 am
MB, is Tom Cable a better coach than Jon Gruden? Oh, btw, I don’t care about the dumb broad Ted Kennedy killed.
August 26th, 2009 at 12:33 am
To be clear Bob. I liked Gruden as a HC but I didnt like his offense. You can separate the two. You can appreciate that right ?
August 26th, 2009 at 12:33 am
Well thanks Bob. Whatever…… but I’ve never really called Gary you have me mistaken with someone else. If Gary has you believing he made me. Here’s a hint…….it aint true.
No prob……..if I was banned I didn’t know it.
Now can we get back to the Raiders, Gary made me famous.lol I wish I had known because I never got a check. hahhaha
August 26th, 2009 at 12:36 am
MR, its a litle early to say seeing as Cable hasn’t coached 1 single game as HC dont you think? Im not going to count his miserable stint as interim HC.
Any other stupid questions MR ?
August 26th, 2009 at 12:39 am
Gruden’s success hinged a lot on a quaterback with a chip on his shoulder and a very strong work ethic, I don’t think he could do that again with this team. It would more rebuilding and more losing seasons. I want wins now!!
August 26th, 2009 at 12:49 am
Gruden is a very inspirational coach and is very good gameplanner. Understands the game and X’s and O’s like few others. But he’s inlove with the WCO to a fault. He also is very impatient with young players, and is too demanding on them.
His best days as a HC are ahead of him. Having a chance to sit back a reasses things will benefit him in his next HC job. Same as Vermeil and Belichik and Coughlin. None of them knew how to take a breath and have fun with the game.
Gruden will learn that over the next year or two.
August 26th, 2009 at 12:58 am
So in other words, MB, Gruden’s better. Thanks.
August 26th, 2009 at 12:58 am
Priest, Tom Cable is a better head coach than Jon Gruden?
August 26th, 2009 at 1:00 am
Gruden doesn’t even run a dink and dunk offense. I don’t know why you guys keep saying that, like parrots.
August 26th, 2009 at 1:02 am
Duh! what?
That’s a loaded question asked to get you off.
Here’s a better one, have you kissed him lately?
August 26th, 2009 at 1:04 am
they keep saying it because it’s true…
Adios!
August 26th, 2009 at 1:06 am
Priest, yeh, a loaded question. Who is a better coach, Jon Gruden or Tom Cable. That probably is a loaded question for you, considering your IQ is 5.
August 26th, 2009 at 1:07 am
They keep saying it because Davis worshiping retards think that any offense that consists of pass plays under 20 yards is a west coast offense, priest. Goodnight.
August 26th, 2009 at 1:49 am
Jon Gruden is being coached by the same voice guy as Jaworski. They yell with the same cadence now. It’s funny. And sickening to listen to that contrived crap.
August 26th, 2009 at 1:54 am
BHP — I told you weeks ago to ignore all the Gary talk from the norcomabob personality…he doesn’t even know what shows you go to.
August 26th, 2009 at 2:18 am
Hmmm…
How many catches will these WR’s have after Week #1?
DHB
LMurphy
Walker
JLH
T.O.
Crabtree
August 26th, 2009 at 2:21 am
How many yards rushing will these guys have after Week #1?
Fargas
MBush
DMC
Janikowski
August 26th, 2009 at 2:22 am
How many tackles will these guys have after Week #1?
Morrison
Brown
Kelly
Eugene
Lechler
August 26th, 2009 at 2:53 am
I’m keeping it real.
Even though MR called me an “idiot” yesterday, I have to suport his statements on Gruden and ask the question, how can anybody be overly critical of Gruden’s offense?
His offense was the most prolific in Raider history and produced an MVP QB with the most passing yards in Raider history.
August 26th, 2009 at 2:57 am
How could anybody be against Gruden as a Raider. The guy was an intense coach who brought us back and instilled RESPONSIBILITY and DISCIPLINE in our players. They performed, “period”.
Some people have the tendency to bag on any Raider who leaves the team and say they suck once they leave. Maybe Gruden looked elsewhere, but he earned it. He was a winner here and didn’t want to put up with any crap. If you want a really good coach you have to actually do have to make some consessions.
Any good coach wants some power.
August 26th, 2009 at 3:00 am
Priest. Have we ever had an offense that scored more points or gained more yards than Gruden’s “west coast”?
Somebody check the stats for me.
August 26th, 2009 at 3:05 am
In 2000 the Raiders gained 5776 yards averaging 361 yards a game.
In NFL history, as of November 23, 2002, Rich Gannon threw for more yards in a 10 game span than any other QB in NFL history.
August 26th, 2009 at 3:06 am
I’ll take “dink and dunk” over CHUCK AND DUCK anyday
August 26th, 2009 at 4:42 am
Copenhagen_Fan Says:
August 26th, 2009 at 2:53 am
I’m keeping it real.
Even though MR called me an “idiot” yesterday, I have to suport his statements on Gruden and ask the question, how can anybody be overly critical of Gruden’s offense?
His offense was the most prolific in Raider history and produced an MVP QB with the most passing yards in Raider history.
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hmmm… was that gruden or callahan ???
August 26th, 2009 at 4:47 am
PETE you tell me?
August 26th, 2009 at 4:56 am
Good Morning NATION!!!
Morning Copenhagen!!!
August 26th, 2009 at 4:57 am
Morning Pete!!!
No matter the stats,IMHO Madden always will be our BEST COACH
August 26th, 2009 at 4:58 am
BOOM
August 26th, 2009 at 5:01 am
Maybe Cable is cut from the same cloth.
August 26th, 2009 at 5:04 am
Good comments yesterday but when the NATION shows up I cant post tghe page is gone soooo
PLEASE JERRY GET OFF YOUR CHAIR AND KNOCK YOUR IT PEOPLE OUT OF THEIR CHAIRS OR SOMETHING SO A BROTHER CAN POST DIGG?
August 26th, 2009 at 5:07 am
Hey 4eva bro
August 26th, 2009 at 5:11 am
for Copenhagen_Fan only…
TOP SECRET… EYES ONLY…
if you are not Copenhagen_Fan do NOT read this!!!
Callahan era
Under Callahan, the Raiders finished the 2002 season 11–5, won their third straight division title, and clinched the top seed in the playoffs. Rich Gannon was named MVP of the NFL after passing for a league-high 4,689 yards. After beating the New York Jets and Tennessee Titans by large margins in the playoffs, the Raiders made their fifth Super Bowl appearance in Super Bowl XXXVII.
August 26th, 2009 at 5:11 am
OK PETE LOL
August 26th, 2009 at 5:13 am
I still don’t think that Cable is a better coach than Gruden.
August 26th, 2009 at 5:15 am
Man I wish I coulda read that top-secret post =(
August 26th, 2009 at 5:17 am
Copenhagen_Fan Says:
August 26th, 2009 at 5:13 am
I still don’t think that Cable is a better coach than Gruden.
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i never said… nor will i ever say… that Callahan is/was/ever will be better than Gruden…
although i do have my own beef with Gruden…
August 26th, 2009 at 5:55 am
Gruden, Callahan, Shanahan, none are head coach anywhere.
August 26th, 2009 at 5:58 am
GOOD MORNING SPORT’S FAN’S, 4EVA,FLORIDA PETE,COPENHAGEN FAN, WHERE IS OAKLIFER ?WE NEED SOME KOOL-AID AROUND HERE..
August 26th, 2009 at 6:18 am
re-post from yesterday… just sharin’ !!!
Florida Pete Says:
August 25th, 2009 at 11:21 am
Richochet Says:
August 25th, 2009 at 10:30 am
Sorry but “we’re on our way” and “rest assured” goes along with “mark my words” and the infamous, if not notorius “I guarantee it”.
It’s called grasping for straws.
Witness: In the past Raider fans stated “Shanahan sucks. Elway made him. He’ll doom the organization.”
Now YOU’RE saying that without Shanahan, the team is doomed.
Grasping for straws.
KC? Yes, new HC. That’s usually a plus (Raiders being the exception, in that the Raiders never actually get a head coach quality guy in)
As far as “hard work, and a little patience”? You must have the patience of Job. I think 6 years is patience enough, isn’t it? Of course, you do have Al Davis, so you might be looking at another decade.
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Shits-o-lot… er… Crap-o-load… er whatever…
your reasoning skills are deformed…
elway did make shanahan…
without elway… shanahan has won ONE… ONE post-season game since elway retired… he lost 4… that’s 10 seasons of futility…
to help you put that into perspective… the Raiders have won 4 post-season games and lost 3… since Elway retired…
so when people say that Denver is a mess… it’s not because Shanahan left… it’s because Denver is a mess…
a lot like yourself !!!
August 26th, 2009 at 6:23 am
Good Morning Nation!!!
August 26th, 2009 at 6:30 am
We got NT Joe Cohen, eh?
good for us. What were the chances of Jason Horton making the team anyways? slim to none.
August adds:
LT Seth Wand (Barnes injury)
LB Morlon Greenwood (Ekejiuba injury)
FS Rashad Baker (Mitchell injury)
MLB Napolean Harris (Morrison injury)
DT Joe Cohen (Sands is done, run defense still sucks)
August subtracts:
DE/DT Derrick Gray
TE/MLB Chris O’Neill
TE/FB J.P. Foschi
FB Lorenzo Neal
CB Jason Horton
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I’m not mad. anybody else? competition brings out the best (and worst) in everyone … I’m glad we’re still making moves to improve the team instead of standing pat before the season starts. I want the best 53.
August 26th, 2009 at 6:33 am
Corey Williams…
go get him Mr Davis !!!
August 26th, 2009 at 6:34 am
Good Morning Nation!
Horton was doomed after the Dallas game anyway. I hope he didn’t grope anyone on the bus going out the way he did those Dallas receivers. Let’s just give Cohen the old Sands jersey and we won’t skip a beat — we’ll just transfer all our talk to him, until he’s laid to waste also. Time to strike up the band once again — bring in COREY WILLIAMS!! — He’s worth a second round pick .. oh wait, that means we would give up a Mike Mitchell!
August 26th, 2009 at 6:36 am
good morning fellas.
Joe Cohen is 6′2″ 310 lbs.
4th Round pick by the 49ers in 2007.
Cohen started 33 games for Florida, including 12 starts at defensive tackle during the Gators’ national championship season.
Cut by the Dolphins on Monday. Claimed by the Raiders on Tuesday. thats all I know guys – sorry
August 26th, 2009 at 6:37 am
Give Cleveland the picks in the Burgess trade plus a 4th next year
August 26th, 2009 at 6:40 am
Morning Nation,
Javon Comback Player of the year
Ellis 7-10 sacks
PLAY J RICH!!!!!!!!
winning 8 games is on the horizon 9-10 is possible if we get solid play from our LINES….
Chaz will still have a GREAT season as our number one guy!!!!
RETURN TO EXCELLENCE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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LB Morlon Greenwood (Ekejiuba injury)
FS Rashad Baker (Mitchell injury)
MLB Napolean Harris (Morrison injury)
These are great additions I was Stokd to bring back Baker and As I posted yesterday I loved the Harris pick and was sad to see him not live up to his billilng,,,this may be his last chance and he might play like a mad man knowing that!!! And Greenwood is a consumate pro has been for a few years now plays tough got injured worked hard to get back nice pick up here he will push Williams/Alston/and maybe Morrison off the roster with the emergance of Brown…Even tho I would like to see Capt Kirk Slide over if he loses the MLB comp!!!!
August 26th, 2009 at 6:42 am
Cut by the Dolphins on Monday. Claimed by the Raiders on Tuesday. thats all I know guys – sorry
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That sums it up If Parcells dsnt want him……Wait our center….he…AHHHHH CRAP!!!!!!! lets hope ol Bill was wrong for once or twice in his life!!!!!!
August 26th, 2009 at 6:46 am
OAKlifer: Bill Parcells didn’t teach his defense how to tackle …
did you see that run by DeAngelo Williams on SportsCenter a few days ago? embarrassing. He broke like 5 tackles and got the TD. He should have been taken down for a 5 yard loss on the play.
I hope we don’t look like that against San Diego!
August 26th, 2009 at 6:47 am
I like the pickups of Harris and Baker; I’m not sure they really expect a lot out of Cohen, other than just to see another body in there, for now. I mentioned this before — there may be some quality D-Line depth on both Miami and Tennessee. If we keep an eye on their cuts, we might just end up with a player who has a lot of potential in our scheme. Their backups have looked pretty solid so far in the preseason. Hey, has anyone heard anything from the “all-star” defensive backs over in the San Francisco Gay area in the last day or two?
August 26th, 2009 at 6:48 am
Corey Williams……
Worked his way up from 6th round draft pick to player of the week at one point turned in GB only 3 sack preformance from a DT ever…Also Williams was voted the GMC Defensive Player of the Week for games played on November 18-19, 2007. Williams posted four solo tackles, two sacks and two forced fumbles during the game.He finished the 2007 season with 51 tackles, a career-high.
On February 20, 2008, the Packers placed the franchise tag on Williams. Ten days later, Williams was traded to the Cleveland Browns for a second-round draft pick.
Sounds intresting plus he played DE in college….hmmm
August 26th, 2009 at 6:49 am
they ran parcells out of Dallas because he sucked.The Giants front office built that Phil Simms SB team not parcells.parcells sucks and I 4 one am GLAD he never came 2 Oaktown
August 26th, 2009 at 6:51 am
Wow Parcells sucks strong words 4eva. I think when jerry signed TO without consulting Parcells he was gone. 1 yr in Miami and they win 11 games come one 4eva guy knows his football.
GO RAIDERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
August 26th, 2009 at 6:52 am
Williams is an inside tackle…
he doesn’t work well in a 3-4… that’s why he’s struggling in Cleveland…
he likes the 4-3 and wants to go to a team that has that scheme…
he get’s after QB’s and tackles ball carriers…
he IS what we need…
August 26th, 2009 at 6:52 am
The only reason the Packers let Corey Williams go was because he had too high a price tag; for that team, they don’t go about free agents the same way everybody else does. If he had stayed, he might have had a Pro Bowl type year. He has so much upside — we really need to pull the trigger on this guy; he’s young and he has proven capability!
August 26th, 2009 at 6:53 am
Corey Williams is paid like a Top 5 DT, just like Tommy Kelly.
Gerard Warren is also making top dollar and according to Jerry Mac is our best DT.
these guys are locks.
We’ll cut Sands and save a few extra bucks, giving guys like Joseph, Bryant, Boschetti & Cohen a chance to compete for the final 2 spots in the DT rotation.
please put the pipe down. you won’t see Corey Williams in Oakland this year, especially with that pricetag.
August 26th, 2009 at 6:54 am
If Parcells sucks so bad, maybe he’ll take Terdell off our hands!
August 26th, 2009 at 6:54 am
i gotta give Parcells credit…
he has taken 4 different struggling franchises and within 2 years had them in the playoffs…
he is one of only 2 or 3 coaches who, in my opinion, can run the whole show…
August 26th, 2009 at 6:56 am
isnt Slob Ryan in Cleve?? dsnt he have MAss man love for Warren and Sands?? hell give em both and a 4th rounder…..it couldnt be worse than what we have now….
August 26th, 2009 at 6:56 am
Listen Rockstar — if New England is able to lure away a potential Pro Bowl defensive end from us for just a couple of draft picks, anything is possible. Dream the dream — have a sip of the koolaid!
August 26th, 2009 at 6:57 am
here that in the distance its a stream no a waterfall …no its Double R pizzin in the DT kool-aid!!!1 LOL
August 26th, 2009 at 6:58 am
OAKlifer:
I heard that Rob Ryan was going to sign-up for NutriSystem, but when he showed up they all ran away, screaming, like little girls!
August 26th, 2009 at 6:58 am
****HEAR that………
August 26th, 2009 at 7:00 am
Well we will wait and see what the Fins do this year.If they make the playoffs then maybe last year was no abberation.All in all he would be a terrible fit in Oakland,imo
August 26th, 2009 at 7:00 am
Tbone: Burgess is injury prone & disgruntled. they inherited a 1 year $2 million dollar contract
Browns traded a 2nd round pick for Williams last offseason and signed him to a 6-year, $38 million dollar contract …
you guys see the difference? it’s not happening. This isn’t your Madden video game
August 26th, 2009 at 7:02 am
# OAKlifer Says:
August 26th, 2009 at 6:58 am
****HEAR that………
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Yeah, I heard it … at first, I thought it was either Rack-o-sh#&, RMR or Crabtree (or maybe one of the San Fran defensive backs) … or maybe it was Herm: “You play to win the game!” (okay, Captain Obvious, go back to your analyst job!)
August 26th, 2009 at 7:05 am
Rockstar:
You don’t seem to understand … in dealing with the Browns, we would be negotiating with perhaps the worst team in all of football this year; they’re bound to make some mistakes and let go of a couple of people they never even should THINK of letting go. Hey, we’ve been there!!
August 26th, 2009 at 7:06 am
Parcells has to feel good about at least 1 thing…
How he handled the Jason Taylor situation. Dude was missing time during the offseason to dance on TV in hopes to kick start a career after football.
Parcells told him to show and he didn’t. Miami shipped his big contract to the Skins for a 2nd rounder. Taylor had a down year. Skins missed the playoffs, Fins made the playoffs. Taylor comes crawling back to Miami after getting cut by the Skins and signs up to play for peanuts and a chance to get his dignity back. LOL.
August 26th, 2009 at 7:06 am
Nice article on Ellis. Scheck it oot if you want…
http://www.raidernationstation.com/exclusives
enjoy the day Raider fans!
PS Fuk I hate word press…
August 26th, 2009 at 7:10 am
the Raiders aren’t going to absorb the Corey Williams contract.
They are happy with Kelly & Warren and are not going to cut either one of them. Both took paycuts this offseason to help Mr. Davis get under the cap …
should Warren be a backup? maybe! but not in Oakland. they love the guy. and you certainly don’t take on that Williams contract to have him come off the bench
this makes no sense. it’s not about how stupid the Browns are or what they’d want in return for him. It’s about the Raiders. it’s not happening. take that to the bank
August 26th, 2009 at 7:11 am
they all ran away, screaming, like little girls!
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“they” ir “he” LOL that fat punk is giving the Ryans a bad name!!!!!!!!! he needs a “roger rabbit” a shave and a hair cut da…. da…..
August 26th, 2009 at 7:13 am
now that we’re over the Corey Williams man crush …
who is up for some Kool-Aid?
Russell 200 yards and 2 TD’s (no INT’s) in the first half against the Saints. 1 long score to Heyward-Bey. he does a dance in the endzone aka the BEY area
Raiders win 28-14
August 26th, 2009 at 7:15 am
# RaiderRockstar Says:
August 26th, 2009 at 7:06 am
Parcells has to feel good about at least 1 thing…
How he handled the Jason Taylor situation. Dude was missing time during the offseason to dance on TV in hopes to kick start a career after football.
Parcells told him to show and he didn’t. Miami shipped his big contract to the Skins for a 2nd rounder. Taylor had a down year. Skins missed the playoffs, Fins made the playoffs. Taylor comes crawling back to Miami after getting cut by the Skins and signs up to play for peanuts and a chance to get his dignity back. LOL.
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Javon has a similar chance here in Oakland. The only difference is the fact that at least I didn’t have to watch J.W. dance on TV every night for eight weeks. The silver lining in all this is that if he goes anywhere for a lot of money later, it’ll be to the Redskins! And they suck, so it should be a pretty high pick!
August 26th, 2009 at 7:15 am
I can live with that RRS
August 26th, 2009 at 7:18 am
aka the BEY area
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Now were talking!!!!!
Hope we see this dance against the dischargers on monday night!!!!!
August 26th, 2009 at 7:19 am
Tbone: I really hope Javon Walker shows up ready to play this year. We need a move-the-chains sure handed possession WR with Chaz Schilens out. Zach Miller can’t do everything!
August 26th, 2009 at 7:20 am
Let’s have two solid pre-season games, stomp the Chargers into the Alameda turf and have the entire team present the game ball to Marquis Cooper’s family. The Raiders can then be the feel good story of the young season and we can just look around and say “Yeah, FU! We are the Raiders .. it’s us against the world, baby!”
August 26th, 2009 at 7:21 am
errands call bbl!!!
August 26th, 2009 at 7:22 am
Later, 4eva!
August 26th, 2009 at 7:25 am
I’d like to see Tom Cable, Todd Haley, Josh McDaniels & Norv Turner have a boxing tournament for charity.
who do you guys think would win?
August 26th, 2009 at 7:25 am
http://espn.go.com/blog/nflnation/category/_/name/emerging-stars
Great read on Z. Miller “time”!!!!!
this kid is the real deal and covets being a RAIDER!!!!!!!!
August 26th, 2009 at 7:26 am
Rockstar:
I don’t know what kind of numbers Javon can put up, but if he just turns out to be a good solid possession-type receiver and runs good routes, that may be all we need. DHB’s speed could clear out some space for him underneath and if Chaz comes back strong, I think we’ll have a good corps with the three of them, plus Murphy, JLH, Zach and our new TE, Myers.
August 26th, 2009 at 7:28 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
August 26th, 2009 at 7:00 am
Tbone: Burgess is injury prone & disgruntled. they inherited a 1 year $2 million dollar contract
Browns traded a 2nd round pick for Williams last offseason and signed him to a 6-year, $38 million dollar contract …
you guys see the difference? it’s not happening. This isn’t your Madden video game
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2/29/2008:
Signed a six-year, $38.6 million contract.
The deal contains $16.3 million guaranteed, including a $6.5 million signing bonus, a $1.5 million first-year roster bonus, and annual $100,000 workout bonuses.
2009: $1.7 million (+ $6 million roster bonus),
2010: $4.2 million (+ $1.7 million roster bonus),
2011-2012: $4.9 million,
2013: $5.4 million,
2014: Free Agent.
Cap charges: $8.83 million (2009), $8.283 million (2010).
He already got his roster bonus for 2009… so he would cost us 1.7 Million for this year…
if he does well, and is worth keeping we re-negotiate the balance of the contract…
now Turdell Sands will cost us 1.3 million this yer (he already got his roster bonus)…
would you replace the Turd with Williams for an extra $400,000???
August 26th, 2009 at 7:28 am
Later 4eva!!!!
Cable would win but Haley is firey that guy is a loud mean sounding SOB anyone catch him Miked up in practice on NFL network…..But his bark is no match to Cable’s bite…errrr chair kicking abilities…..
August 26th, 2009 at 7:29 am
STOP THE FUKIN RUN!!!!!
August 26th, 2009 at 7:30 am
would you replace the Turd with Williams for an extra $400,000???
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Yes we would but the Browns wont let the guy walk for nothing and plus like Double R keeps saying The uppers seem to be fine with our personal…it hurts to even type that
August 26th, 2009 at 7:32 am
FIRE CABLE NOW!!!!
August 26th, 2009 at 7:33 am
Dakota:
What in the hell are you talking about? Are you in bed with RMR?!!
August 26th, 2009 at 7:36 am
Pete: you still don’t understand. you’re talking about replacing a backup with a starter. Sands is going to be dumped regardless of whether or not we add another DT.
Give me one other team paying what Oakland would be for Kelly/Warren/Williams at DT. and why would Williams want to come to Oakland, sit on the bench and watch our run defense get trampled? what would that do for his value?
in Oakland the players on the field represent coaches favorites, not always the most productive players. See Kwame Harris, Justin Fargas, Hiram Eugene, Cornell Green, etc etc for example
oh yeah, and Kirk Morrison this offseason. Cable said he’s still the favorite to start at MLB despite the fact that Ricky Brown has outplayed him every day since they declared it an “open competition”
August 26th, 2009 at 7:36 am
RaiderTbone, nope…I am just trying to save the 2009 season…might be too late, but at least I will be able to sleep at night knowing that I tried to warn Mr. Davis that Cable is what we thought he was…an o-line coach.
August 26th, 2009 at 7:41 am
Dakota:
As Lee Corso would say: “Not so fast, my friend.”
There is a lot of positive buzz going on this year — I think the switch back to fundamental drills early was good for this team. Some of the pieces are falling into place, and our third, fourth and fifth round draft selections look pretty good. JRuss is improving, Javon is progressing and the cancer (Burgess) has been cut away. Give Cable a chance; at least ride it through the first three games …
August 26th, 2009 at 7:44 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
I’d like to see Tom Cable, Todd Haley, Josh McDaniels & Norv Turner have a boxing tournament for charity.
who do you guys think would win?
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This would make a better Prowrestling match with Cable bringing a chair to take out McDan. a right hook to Turner and choke Haley with a cable. There WILL be blood!
August 26th, 2009 at 7:45 am
Trade Huff for Williams.
August 26th, 2009 at 7:47 am
Raidertbone,
I am excited about our good, young players and their potential. I can’t wait to see what an actual, legit NFL head coach can do with them in 2010 (if Al can still find one that will coach the Raiders).
Hopefully Cable can stick around and be the o-line coach in 2010 though…..
August 26th, 2009 at 7:48 am
OH YEAH!!!! (As he comes crashing through the coliseum walls)…16-0, SB Champs!!! Cable Coach of the Decade!!!
Ok, ok…I needed a BIG GULP of Kool-aid this morning!!! (Or is it a gulp of Patron?)
August 26th, 2009 at 7:50 am
raider rockster…
you don’t really think Williams would sit on the bench, do you???
August 26th, 2009 at 7:50 am
Trade Huff for Williams.
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Trade J. Russell for Williams and activate Southwick!
August 26th, 2009 at 7:50 am
Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
August 26th, 2009 at 7:45 am
Trade Huff for Williams.
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Great idea, but Huff has no value. He let me down. I was hoping he’d finally come through and get the starting job.
August 26th, 2009 at 7:53 am
Pete: keep thinking it’s a possibility bro. thats on you if you want to give yourself false hope. I could care less
I already gave you reasons why it won’t happen.
We have a better chance trading Javon Walker & Chaz Schilens to New England for Randy Moss (again)… sarcasm intended
August 26th, 2009 at 7:54 am
Dakota Says:
August 26th, 2009 at 7:47 am
Raidertbone,
I am excited about our good, young players and their potential. I can’t wait to see what an actual, legit NFL head coach can do with them in 2010 (if Al can still find one that will coach the Raiders).
Hopefully Cable can stick around and be the o-line coach in 2010 though…..
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the number of actual, legit SUCCESSFUL NFL coaches can be counted on one hand…
all the rest… everyone of them… is someone a team took a chance on… with no more insight than we have when we take a chance on someone…
the league is full of Head Coach wannabes… a lot of it is being on the right team at the right time…
and being in the right place at the right time…
when i used to play cards… i had no problem telling someone that i would rather be lucky than good…
August 26th, 2009 at 7:55 am
AZ: Huff let you down because he’s not starting?
If you hadn’t noticed… Fargas is still starting too
take it up with our expert talent evaluator Tom Cable
Huff played well against Dallas and was INJURED for our second preseason game
August 26th, 2009 at 7:56 am
I, for one, is holding judgement on Cable. I like the things Raidertbone is talking about with Cable. What I don’t like is the penelties are still way too high. And, more importantly, the inability to stop the run.
One play, in particular showed several weaknesses. Against Frisco, Coffee runs a delay off left tackle. Their LT and LG double team Warren and take him out of the play.
The TE handles Scott without a problem.
Ricky Brown doesn’t stay in his lane and cheats to his left, taking him out of the play.
Branch hesitates and doesn’t cover the ground that Brown vacates.
Coffee squeezes between Warren and Scott.
Scott gets an arm on him, but that’s it.
Brown doesn’t even see the RB and Branch wiffs.
Coffee runs for about 18 yards before the other Safety gets him.
Until that is fixed, the Raiders are in big trouble.
August 26th, 2009 at 7:56 am
Dakota,
Madden was a line coach…full of fire and fundementals and raw player coaching ability…..Lets just hope we have a Bugel on our hands……
August 26th, 2009 at 7:57 am
be back later. work to do
August 26th, 2009 at 7:57 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
August 26th, 2009 at 7:53 am
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the Panthers are supposedly scouting him…
be interesting if they make a deal for him…
and, of course, i’ll be happy to post the details here…
August 26th, 2009 at 7:59 am
Dear Al thank you so much for responding to our cries and pleas asking you for more defensive line help.
And this how you address our run issues by claiming DT Joe Cohen?
Dear Al you are so lucky you are on Scholarship any other GM would be fired!
August 26th, 2009 at 8:01 am
AZ,
Saw your questiopn from yesterday regarding the pulling lineman Idealy the lineman pulls to seal the out side i.e. DE if he was getting to the second level to seal a LB the play must have been designed to let the DE penetrate and get to far behind the play allowing the playside Tackle to track block the MLB while the pulling gaurd kicks out the OLB…In this instance you better hope damn well yor DE hasnt over run the play or you saftey or CB can play huge run support…I think that is where most of the responsibility lies after they handle two LB’s and dupe a DE into running right by the play,,
August 26th, 2009 at 8:06 am
Lol, Tom Cable is no Madden…never will be…never should even be mentioned in the same breath. Anyone that talks about Cable being anything like Madden should be ashamed…the only things they have in common are girth, gender and ethnicity.
Give me Gilbride, Fassel, Gruden, Holmgren, Shanny Fart, hell even Denny Green over Cable!
There, I vented, now I feel better…
August 26th, 2009 at 8:09 am
Neither Cable nor Russell will finish the season.
August 26th, 2009 at 8:11 am
Denny green sucks he is who I thought he was!!!!
YUO WOULD LET SHAANNY IN THIS ORGINATION YOU ARE HIGHER THAN ME AND O PUT TOGETHER!!!!!!
maybe Gilbride, Fassell, Gruden, Holmgren but there is a reason these men are at home or nfl network there is little worm room for the Right time Right Place arguement…These guys are no better or worse than cable the only one on the list woth credentials is holmy and shanny and one of those punks has a lifew time ban in oakland and the other is a 75 year old just retired to stay home coach who would not come to Oakland!!!
August 26th, 2009 at 8:11 am
Dakota…
you would rather have Shanahan !?!?!?
you gotta be schitting me !!!
elway made shanahan…
without elway… shanahan has won ONE… ONE post-season game since elway retired… he lost 4… that’s 10 seasons of futility…
to help you put that into perspective… the Raiders have won 4 post-season games and lost 3… since Elway retired…
so when people say that Denver is a mess… it’s not because Shanahan left… it’s because Denver is a mess…
August 26th, 2009 at 8:11 am
Ryan,
Are you the same Ryan that won the FFl last season? If so, you need to join this year’s FFL…I think there is still one spot open as Raider O had to bow out…
Talk to Oaklifer about getting in.
August 26th, 2009 at 8:13 am
Norco Bob Says:
August 26th, 2009 at 8:09 am
Neither Cable nor Russell will finish the season.
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And I wont drink four tall cans of colt 45 when I get home…..man has spicoli taken over fall out of the van clear the smoke pull the carb down the narcs what ever it is you fellas do….RUSSELL is here to stay!!! and Cable wins job by default by being the first Raider coach to beat SD in 5 years deal with it!!!
August 26th, 2009 at 8:14 am
Ryan,
Are you the same Ryan that won the FFl last season? If so, you need to join this year’s FFL…I think there is still one spot open as Raider O had to bow out…
Talk to Oaklifer about getting in.
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Ryan Sir I second that notion!!!! you game???
August 26th, 2009 at 8:14 am
Oak,
Thats what I was seeing. I need to watch the game again, but it looked like over pursuit from our OLB and DE on both sides of the line. DE and OLB were behind the play by the time the MLB was blocked by the gaurd. Rediculous if you ask me. Especially after the 10th time they ran the same play. You’d think since Marshall runs the D from the booth, he could have corrected that.
August 26th, 2009 at 8:14 am
Does anyone out there think the resaon our defense stinks rigth now is the formation we are playing in? Does anyone think we would play better with a nose guard clogging up the middle taking on two blockers to free up our linebackers? What are your thoughts?
What other teams have had success with a defensive scheme like ours?
August 26th, 2009 at 8:17 am
SD- 48…OAK 13 ….sorry but im keepin real.
August 26th, 2009 at 8:18 am
Shanny’s one post season victory since Elway is one more than Cable will ever have imo.
I might be the only one that recognizes it now, but by season’s end, most of you will be seconding my opinion on Cable…
Hope I am wrong, and I am sure everyone will tell me how wrong I am if Cable wins 7 or 8 games…but I happily apologize to Cable and Al if that happens….unfortunately it just isn’t going to happen.
August 26th, 2009 at 8:20 am
Norco Bob Says:
August 26th, 2009 at 8:17 am
SD- 48…OAK 13 ….sorry but im keepin real.
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You wanna predict a Raider loss thats fine you wanna write keepin it real then keep it real when was the last time Raiders gave up 50?????? IF the SD Discharge wins it will be a normall 28-17 game our Offense will score the ball and our D will not give up 50….keepin it real WE WILL BEAT SD THIS YEAR!!!!!!
August 26th, 2009 at 8:22 am
Dakota and Oaklifer –
I think I’m in on one of them. Team name Craig. If I’m not in the right one, let me know. I’ll join the other one, as well. I’ll give you my garbage email address if I’m not already joined.
August 26th, 2009 at 8:23 am
OAKlifer Says:
August 26th, 2009 at 8:11 am
Denny green sucks he is who I thought he was!!!!
YUO WOULD LET SHAANNY IN THIS ORGINATION YOU ARE HIGHER THAN ME AND O PUT TOGETHER!!!!!!
maybe Gilbride, Fassell, Gruden, Holmgren but there is a reason these men are at home or nfl network there is little worm room for the Right time Right Place arguement…These guys are no better or worse than cable the only one on the list woth credentials is holmy and shanny and one of those punks has a lifew time ban in oakland and the other is a 75 year old just retired to stay home coach who would not come to Oakland!!!
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Mike has a home here in AZ and he came into our dealership looking at a Prius a back in May. I chopped it up with him for a little while, along with a 9er fan Co-worker. We asked him if he’d be willing to GM at either team in the Bay. He said anything is possible if he decided to return to football, but right now he’s gonna take at least a year off with his family. Really a cool guy, and ‘d love to have him in the front office. Probably never happen, but it was a cool 15-20 min chat.
August 26th, 2009 at 8:27 am
Here is what I predict… NArco won’t even make it to the first game… Seriously do we have the stupidest fans in the league? Spend some time reading these posts and one might think so…
August 26th, 2009 at 8:28 am
Ok oaklifer,..but I go to every game as you know, the Raiders mess their pants when the chargers show up,..if its a normal score like you say, it will be because they took it easy on us out of pity,…the opener is as sure a loss as their is this year.
August 26th, 2009 at 8:29 am
I hope we win but if you wondering the last time someone put up near 50 on us New England 49-26 last year and that’s without Brady.
August 26th, 2009 at 8:29 am
Ryan Says:
August 26th, 2009 at 8:22 am
Dakota and Oaklifer –
I think I’m in on one of them. Team name Craig. If I’m not in the right one, let me know. I’ll join the other one, as well. I’ll give you my garbage email address if I’m not already joined.
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You are in the second on which includes Marley as well as my self I will sent you an invite from that one both leagues are filled with the nation from the blog the first one filled up so fast we opened another!!!!
August 26th, 2009 at 8:32 am
Norco Bob Says:
August 26th, 2009 at 8:28 am
Ok oaklifer,..but I go to every game as you know, the Raiders mess their pants when the chargers show up,..if its a normal score like you say, it will be because they took it easy on us out of pity,…the opener is as sure a loss as their is this year.
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Not that you need or want my opinion but that is much more keepin it real than a 48-10 trudging or what ever you was cappin on about I repect facts and we have all but messed ourselfs every time the Dolts show up….I’ll give you that but this year is different and after weekone you and I will sit and have a beer and discuss why we continue to suck or why we finaly beat SD cool????
August 26th, 2009 at 8:32 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
August 26th, 2009 at 7:36 am
Pete: you still don’t understand. you’re talking about replacing a backup with a starter. Sands is going to be dumped regardless of whether or not we add another DT.
Give me one other team paying what Oakland would be for Kelly/Warren/Williams at DT. and why would Williams want to come to Oakland, sit on the bench and watch our run defense get trampled? what would that do for his value?
in Oakland the players on the field represent coaches favorites, not always the most productive players. See Kwame Harris, Justin Fargas, Hiram Eugene, Cornell Green, etc etc for example
oh yeah, and Kirk Morrison this offseason. Cable said he’s still the favorite to start at MLB despite the fact that Ricky Brown has outplayed him every day since they declared it an “open competition”
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Your rationale is a threat to lucidity everywhere.
THREE DTs rotate for roughly equal playing time if they are healthy. The fourth is the real sub.
Williams value would increase as he shores up a weak line. And we could dabble with Kelly at DE (ala Reggie White) against run heavy opponents.
August 26th, 2009 at 8:34 am
ryan/craig
your email is blocked in the FFL I try to send you the link!!!
August 26th, 2009 at 8:34 am
I’mma keep drinking my kool-aid. Staying optamistic until after week 1. If it’s a route similar to the Dever game last year, I’ll hang up my kool-aid cup till next season, but if we get a W or keep it within 1 score, you guys better get ready for the AFC WECT CHAMP flavored kool-aid LOL!
9-7!
JAVON WALKER COMEBACK PHSYCOTIC PLAYER OF THE YEAR!
GALLERY AND MILLER TO THE PROBOWL!
PLAYOFFBOUND!
YUM YUM!
August 26th, 2009 at 8:36 am
I guess we can have a beer, but the truth is the opener is a sure loss, only question is how embarrassing will it get?…I will be drunk and stoned and flipped out on pills and wont care…wont ewven know Im there…hopefully we bounce back in week 2 and beat KC,…but I doubt it.
August 26th, 2009 at 8:39 am
Narc Boob – aparently you haven’t seen a charger game yet this preseason. Rivers has been absolutley pounded. They can’t score if he’s on his back. Seriously dude get yourself to rehab before its too late…
August 26th, 2009 at 8:39 am
BLITZ NNAMDI!
August 26th, 2009 at 8:41 am
Norc…
do you even know you’re here???
August 26th, 2009 at 8:42 am
Any chance we can make a trade with the Bungholes for A. Smith since they are so far apart in negotiations thanks to the DHB deal?
Wouldn’t that be sweet? Our overpaying of DHB forces the Bungholes to trade him to us and Al signs him on day one to a deal slightly better than the DHB deal and suddenly our RT spot is much better!
Preposterous?
August 26th, 2009 at 8:45 am
Now thats a wish I can get in line with.
I think the FFL is called jerrykidz ??
August 26th, 2009 at 8:49 am
no mo infields,..was that a joke?…preseason?…ya,..I remember art shells year we went 4-1,..last year the lions went undefeated,…please rethink your lame ass preseason argument.
August 26th, 2009 at 8:50 am
Any chance we can make a trade with the Bungholes for A. Smith since they are so far apart in negotiations thanks to the DHB deal?
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The deadline to trade the rights of a drafted player has already passed.. Otherwise i’m sure the whiners would be considering trading crabtree..
August 26th, 2009 at 8:51 am
I’m just glad everyone finally gets it, that Henderson is the truth at LT and he’ll be our guy for 10+ years!
HENDERSON TO THE PROBOWL 2010!
YUM????
August 26th, 2009 at 9:02 am
Oaklifer -
What’s the league name. I think I remember the password.
August 26th, 2009 at 9:13 am
Oops. I guess I need the League ID #
August 26th, 2009 at 9:18 am
Nevermind. I found it.
August 26th, 2009 at 9:19 am
Dang! I’m going to be busy. 3 live drafts on Sunday.
August 26th, 2009 at 9:25 am
giving up 48 points in a game (and predicting as much) is thoroughly ridiculous…
that’s 6 touchdowns and a coupla field goals…
now, no doubt, we may have a big problem stopping the run…
but a score like that would require turnovers… and i haven’t seen an indicator that turnovers would be a big concern…
also a score like that would indicate an effective passing game against us… i haven’t seen any indicators that teams will beat us that badly through the air…
giving up 200 plus yards on the ground combined with an ineffective offense would likely yield a score of 24 to 3…
i’m thinking someone needs to do some thinking…
and toss that damn cystal ball you bought from rack-o-schit away…
MNF Final Score: Raiders 24 – Chargers 17
August 26th, 2009 at 9:28 am
Preseason or not the chargers have 2 rookies starting on the O-Line….
August 26th, 2009 at 9:33 am
If the D-line is good but need better technique like Cable says then Raiders will be like Phoenix Suns.
Score a lot but no defense.
Actually the offense looks promising.
If the offense can carry them until the Dline gets their sh!t together Raiders might be okay.
Even last year they moved the ball down the field, only to make crucial mental errors yanking the rug out from underneath themselves.
Just have to cut back on the errors and score every series.
D might be good enough until they start to gel.
Anything will be an improvement over Ryan’s Swiss cheese Dline.
August 26th, 2009 at 9:33 am
about 4 articles later and I am still waiting for Nnamdi21 to explain to be how a Center “loses contain”
August 26th, 2009 at 9:37 am
Raiders will give up some yards on D but they’ll create turnovers too.
Offense looks good.
Finally some receivers to throw to.
They will surprise people.
August 26th, 2009 at 9:38 am
2 Rooks starting on O-line and you going to put up +40 points yeah right………
Ask rivers how he felt after getting sacked 4 times in 7 plays……
4 sacks by the “1’s” is 4 sacks….Game planning or not preseason or not,
August 26th, 2009 at 9:39 am
San Dheygo is overrated.
August 26th, 2009 at 9:42 am
Norco Bob Says:
August 25th, 2009 at 11:32 pm
Youre kidding right?…in preseason most teams dont even run plays or schemes they will in season…preseason is nothing,…those players in 3rd and 4th qt at niner game wont be the ones not tackling in reg season.
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How about the ones not tackling in the first half?
Forget about them?
BTW..those are the SAME guys who couldn’t tackle all of last year..why run the “Oh, but it was guys not even making the team” whine?
First half Niners had 130 yds of their 275 rushing.
Slap a Duh on you.
Oh wait.
There it is.
Permanently tatooed on your forehead.
August 26th, 2009 at 9:43 am
I think greg ellis is gonna pressure and sack philip rivers a lot. Same goes for Trevor Scott. Redzone wise, i swear we better not put in justin fargas. michael bush needs to be in there and we get like inside the 5 i think it should be bush g.russell
August 26th, 2009 at 9:44 am
Lynn from Snot Says:
August 25th, 2009 at 10:49 pm
Good to see the raiders admit they need D line help but, its a little late.
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lol…you think?
August 26th, 2009 at 9:45 am
Well, I doubt SD will have to pass much against us in the opener…I think running at the right side of our d-line will put them in a lot of 3rd and one or two situations…
…just trying to keep it real. Who knows, maybe Sproles and LT suck now!
August 26th, 2009 at 9:46 am
hey richochet preseason doesn’t matter if you win games its all about evaluating your players. You showin off sayin niners whooped on us with 275 rushing yards even though they did but was mostly against the backups but we were still up 14-3.
August 26th, 2009 at 9:47 am
The worst game the Raiders played last year (IMO)was wk 14 Chargers. Not once in that game did the Raiders mount a drive, NOT ONE. Justin Miller returned a kickoff for the only Oakland score. SD only scored 34 pts after we couldn’t even drive once down the field. I have to agree with EVERYONE, Narco has lost it
August 26th, 2009 at 9:49 am
First half Niners had 130 yds of their 275 rushing.
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How many points did they SCORE in the 1st half?
August 26th, 2009 at 9:51 am
You guys have heard the story about when Howie Long went to the trainer’s table during a game and grabbed a scalpel and was going into the game to go after somebody but was stopped by teammates who saw it.
Or the time he went into an opposing team’s lockerroom after the game to start a fight over a chop block?
We need more crazy psycho D lineman like that.
Angry psychotic freekin’ animals.
That’s what the Raiders need.
Oh, yeah, and I’m posting comments too quickly.
I should slow down.
August 26th, 2009 at 9:52 am
RaiderTW Says:
August 26th, 2009 at 9:47 am
The worst game the Raiders played last year (IMO)was wk 14 Chargers. Not once in that game did the Raiders mount a drive, NOT ONE. Justin Miller returned a kickoff for the only Oakland score. SD only scored 34 pts after we couldn’t even drive once down the field. I have to agree with EVERYONE, Narco has lost it
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Yeah but this years different. Our offense is much more more improved and we will be able to hold our own .
GO RAIDERS!!!
August 26th, 2009 at 9:53 am
Florida Pete Says:
August 26th, 2009 at 6:18 am
re-post from yesterday… just sharin’ !!!
Florida Pete Says:
August 25th, 2009 at 11:21 am
Richochet Says:
August 25th, 2009 at 10:30 am
Sorry but “we’re on our way” and “rest assured” goes along with “mark my words” and the infamous, if not notorius “I guarantee it”.
It’s called grasping for straws.
Witness: In the past Raider fans stated “Shanahan sucks. Elway made him. He’ll doom the organization.”
Now YOU’RE saying that without Shanahan, the team is doomed.
Grasping for straws.
KC? Yes, new HC. That’s usually a plus (Raiders being the exception, in that the Raiders never actually get a head coach quality guy in)
As far as “hard work, and a little patience”? You must have the patience of Job. I think 6 years is patience enough, isn’t it? Of course, you do have Al Davis, so you might be looking at another decade.
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Shits-o-lot… er… Crap-o-load… er whatever…
your reasoning skills are deformed…
elway did make shanahan…
without elway… shanahan has won ONE… ONE post-season game since elway retired… he lost 4… that’s 10 seasons of futility…
to help you put that into perspective… the Raiders have won 4 post-season games and lost 3… since Elway retired…
so when people say that Denver is a mess… it’s not because Shanahan left… it’s because Denver is a mess…
a lot like yourself !!!
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Some point to their forehead..as a target.
Others paint a target..
Then they’res you, who takes the arrow, and rams it in, just to make sure it’s a dead on bullseye.
Uh..peanut? The OTHER poster stated that NOW THAT SHANAHAN WAS GONE, the Bronco’s would suck.
I stated some say Shanahan always sucked..now others are saying Denver will suck without him.
Leave it to you to get confused.
My bad.
Leave it to you to stay confused.
August 26th, 2009 at 9:54 am
Guys don’t engage the trolls. it only empowers them and makes them think they actually have relevent opinions.
August 26th, 2009 at 9:55 am
Raco go away nobody cares or reads your crap.
August 26th, 2009 at 9:56 am
Dakota is right
our D ends are the main issue vs. the run so far, in particular Scott, who has been getting mauled. Alston and Norris have not supported behind Scott very well either.
the D tackles look good, the D ends not so much
August 26th, 2009 at 9:58 am
AZ Raider Says:
August 26th, 2009 at 8:34 am
I’mma keep drinking my kool-aid. Staying optamistic until after week 1. If it’s a route similar to the Dever game last year, I’ll hang up my kool-aid cup till next season, but if we get a W or keep it within 1 score, you guys better get ready for the AFC WECT CHAMP flavored kool-aid LOL!
9-7!
JAVON WALKER COMEBACK PHSYCOTIC PLAYER OF THE YEAR!
GALLERY AND MILLER TO THE PROBOWL!
PLAYOFFBOUND!
YUM YUM!
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Great.
A Waffler.
Cover both sides.
“They can do great”
“They might suck”
“I think we’ll win 10″
“I also think we’ll win 5″
It’s called being spineless.
Like a Gumby
Take a stand, and stick to it, Gumby.
August 26th, 2009 at 9:58 am
Hey Florida Pete and AZ:
The doctors say that, after hemorrhoid surgery, the rhoids are supposed to go away and not bother you anymore … I guess the doctors all lie!
August 26th, 2009 at 10:01 am
Kinda miss seein’ Shanahan’s crazy-eyed rat-face on the sideline.
Dude was a stress bomb.
Although his head never did explode like I expected it to.
Probably got fired for losing to the Raiders in recent years.
I mean for years he had Raiders’ number.
They really mishandled the cutler thing.
It’ll be awhile before the players really trust their coach over there. LOL
August 26th, 2009 at 10:02 am
RaiderTW Says:
August 26th, 2009 at 9:49 am
First half Niners had 130 yds of their 275 rushing.
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How many points did they SCORE in the 1st half?
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Ahh..the “used, abused, and confused” poster.
Point the bonehead made was most of the rushing yds were when the scrubs were in.
Clearly it wasn’t.
Except for the mis communication freeby TD the Niners handed the Raiders, how many points did the Raiders score in the first half?
ZERO..which was pretty close to their rushing yds.
Gosh..what happened to that “3 headed monster”?? lmao..
Turns out ALL THREE WERE ON THE NINERS..
Yeah..read it and weep.
The Niners 3 running backs bitchslapped your heralded group of nobodies.
Yeah, yeah..McFadden will “tear up the league”..except he NEVER has done squat.
Bush? Oh, that’s right..he has “potential”.
Niners running backs? EMBARRASSED THE HELL OUT OF THE RAIDERS..1ST..AND 2ND HALF.
August 26th, 2009 at 10:02 am
richochet, man get hell of of this blog. All you like to do is diss this team and the people that write on this log and its very obvious that you ain’t a raiders fan.
August 26th, 2009 at 10:02 am
Let’s face it, the Broncos are a bunch of donkeys and Cutler was lucky to get out. I think McFly is going to do a lot more harm than good … GOOD FOR US! Maybe they’ll trade us Brandon Marshall for DHB, straight-up!
August 26th, 2009 at 10:05 am
rickanut you still didn’t answer tw’s question which i also asked you
August 26th, 2009 at 10:05 am
McF has his on and off days.
When he’s off just play Bush and Fargas.
Fargas is nails.
Way underrated.
August 26th, 2009 at 10:06 am
Florida Pete Says:
August 26th, 2009 at 9:25 am
giving up 48 points in a game (and predicting as much) is thoroughly ridiculous…
that’s 6 touchdowns and a coupla field goals…
now, no doubt, we may have a big problem stopping the run…
but a score like that would require turnovers… and i haven’t seen an indicator that turnovers would be a big concern…
also a score like that would indicate an effective passing game against us… i haven’t seen any indicators that teams will beat us that badly through the air…
giving up 200 plus yards on the ground combined with an ineffective offense would likely yield a score of 24 to 3…
i’m thinking someone needs to do some thinking…
and toss that damn cystal ball you bought from rack-o-schit away…
MNF Final Score: Raiders 24 – Chargers 17
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24-3..yet you think the Raiders will be the one tearing it up?
dominating?
Oh geez..you are a glutton for punishment, aren’t you?
You won’t mind..if I remind you of this..you know..right after week one?
August 26th, 2009 at 10:07 am
tazZraider Says:
August 26th, 2009 at 10:02 am
richochet, man get hell of of this blog. All you like to do is diss this team and the people that write on this log and its very obvious that you ain’t a raiders fan.
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Tell you what.
You come mow my lawn, beg a littl, and make me some lemonade..and I’ll consider it.
Tools are in the back.
Don’t forget to trim the hedges..and DON’T GET LEAVES IN THE POOL.
August 26th, 2009 at 10:08 am
Take a stand, and stick to it – ricochet
unless you learn that your stand is wrong, correct? then sticking to it would simply be an admission of stupidity, correct?
spine is not sticking to your guns; it’s sticking to the truth…any loser can stick to his guns, stuck straight down the drain
August 26th, 2009 at 10:12 am
Richochet Says:
August 26th, 2009 at 10:07 am
tazZraider Says:
August 26th, 2009 at 10:02 am
richochet, man get hell of of this blog. All you like to do is diss this team and the people that write on this log and its very obvious that you ain’t a raiders fan.
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Tell you what.
You come mow my lawn, beg a littl, and make me some lemonade..and I’ll consider it.
Tools are in the back.
Don’t forget to trim the hedges..and DON’T GET LEAVES IN THE POOL.
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your a fukin idiot
August 26th, 2009 at 10:13 am
Richochet Says:
August 26th, 2009 at 10:06 am
Florida Pete Says:
August 26th, 2009 at 9:25 am
MNF Final Score: Raiders 24 – Chargers 17
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24-3..yet you think the Raiders will be the one tearing it up?
dominating?
Oh geez..you are a glutton for punishment, aren’t you?
You won’t mind..if I remind you of this..you know..right after week one?
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rack-o-shit…
i never thought you couldn’t read… until now…
you need to stop coming in here… smelling butts and squeezing scrotums…
and find a new hobby…
August 26th, 2009 at 10:14 am
TazZ:PLEASE don’t get leaves in his pool, particularly in the shallow end … because that’s where (as all Raider fans know) babies attempt to swim, as they piss themselves!
August 26th, 2009 at 10:18 am
All talk about pools and scrots aside, if the Dline gets better, Raiders have a decent season and turn things around.
If Hanson was cabinet-slammed for being AD’s mole, it shows Cable knows how to get it done, Raider style.
Suspension=martyrdom
August 26th, 2009 at 10:21 am
Weasel:
You bring up an interesting point — I hadn’t thought about what might happen if Cable were to get suspended for 2 or 3 games and Tollner had the reigns — we might start winning games by scores of 50-30!
August 26th, 2009 at 10:22 am
What do all battered assistant coaches have in common?
They just wouldn’t listen.
August 26th, 2009 at 10:30 am
I just don’t understand how Richochet and others can dismiss the Jamarcus TD to Murphy, as just a blown coverage.
It wasn’t a “blown” coverage. That is when a guy is completely wide open, like when a DB releases a guy on the sidelines and the Safety never comes over (think us in the Ravens game last year).
This was a zone that had a hole, every zone has little pockets, in the opposite corner of the end zone. The Defense called for a perfect laser of a pass in the corner to beat them, and that’s what he did. The DB’s played a little off becuase I think they thought there is no way he can get the ball in their that accurately and quickly, but he did. Caught them, one a Pro Bowler, on their heels a little bit.
Was it a bad defensive play? Yes, but good QB’s take advantage of misplays and make teams pay, and bad QB’s let the defense get away with it.
August 26th, 2009 at 10:31 am
Hopefully Cable will have the sense to pull McFad if he’s having a bad day.
If it’s a good day, turn him loose!
How many times did Jordan snail up to the line and tiptoe around before they finally put Fargas in.
Fargas hits that line fast.
Bush is consistent.
DHB only has to catch one bomb.
After that, they have to watch him deep and it’s really going to open up the field for the other guys.
Especially the tight ends.
Can’t watch everybody.
Cut back on penalties and this offense will score.
August 26th, 2009 at 10:33 am
Vegas:
You are stating the obvious — most of us saw and recognize that it was pretty much a blown coverage by players who couldn’t back up the smack they were laying down in practice, come game time. Just as in life, people who whine and scream for attention throughout the week are the same ones who get torched on Sundays and then cut on Mondays.
August 26th, 2009 at 10:34 am
Vegas is right.
JR’s pass to Murphy was a laser.
August 26th, 2009 at 10:36 am
The bottom line is this a touchdown pass is a touchdown pass, you cant discredit that. Whether or not it was because of blown coverage, Jamarcus exploited it and scored a touchdown. Last time i checked a touchdown is worth six points no matter how you get it.
August 26th, 2009 at 10:38 am
TBone,
OK, I hear you. But “blown” coverage NO, they were where they were supposed to be, they just didn’t react to the ball in the air quick enough, and Jamarcus’ arm strength beat the zone.
Bad defensive play by the DB’s absolutely, “blown” coverage, just not comfortable using that word. Like I said, remeber the Ravens game last year where they had a WR that had nobody within 20 yards of him 40 yards down the field, now THAT is a “blown” coverage.
August 26th, 2009 at 10:40 am
Any TD thrown by Russell is a good one…thank god he didn’t overthrow him!
August 26th, 2009 at 10:40 am
So far, we have seen flashes of what we can expect — the big run by DMac, a couple of big-time throws by JRuss, a couple of three-and-outs by the defense (hey! that’s all we can ask for!), production by Murphy.
It’s coming together … drink up, me hearties, yo ho!
August 26th, 2009 at 10:42 am
Man slow news day…both in the sports world and the real world.
August 26th, 2009 at 10:44 am
# Dakota Says:
August 26th, 2009 at 10:42 am
Man slow news day…both in the sports world and the real world.
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Same thing happened the day the King of Pop died. I never have been a big Ted Kennedy fan, but you have to feel for that family — they have had a rough month!
August 26th, 2009 at 10:46 am
best way to help the run d is to score points ourselves, and early. we score, and other teams don’t run as much; we don’t score, as in the recent years past, and teams punk us in the run game and wear us down hard
simple equation. we need to score early and often for a change. the whole dynamic of the defense will change if this can finally occur…it’s been since Rich
August 26th, 2009 at 10:48 am
Raiders wouldn’t have won any games last year if teams had been smart enough to run on them every play.
Just look at the numbers.
If the Packers hadn’t given the ball to Favor, they win easily.
This leak needs to be plugged.
What’s going to happen when this actually occurs to some team’s coach?
Word gets out: “Just run every play. Can’t lose.”
Fortunately for Raiders, there’s a perception that you should pass every now and then.
I don’t know why other coaches haven’t figured that out yet.
Good thing.
No game would have been close, like so many were last year.
August 26th, 2009 at 10:52 am
Man slow news day…both in the sports world and the real world.
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what are you talking about?
Jags are looking for a backup QB: Tyler Thigpen, Luke McCown & Tarvaris Jackson are all likely candidates. Jags already offered a 5th rounder to KC for Thigpen …
Edgerrin James signed with the Seahawks and they dumped T.J. Duckett
Vick will play Thursday
Raiders added a DT and dumped a CB
Brandon Marshall finally gets on the field in donkey-land
Mark Sanchez named starting QB for the Jets
Plaxico’s E60 interview …
August 26th, 2009 at 10:55 am
Yeah fargas runs right into a tackler every time their is big reason for our terrible redzone O and that reason is the O-line but mr 2inch vertical don’t help it’s like he is scared of the endzone. Any carry fargas gets is a carry taken away from Bush. Bush between the tackles Dmac outside and fargas on the bench!
August 26th, 2009 at 10:55 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
August 26th, 2009 at 10:52 am
Man slow news day…both in the sports world and the real world.
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what are you talking about?
Jags are looking for a backup QB: Tyler Thigpen, Luke McCown & Tarvaris Jackson are all likely candidates. Jags already offered a 5th rounder to KC for Thigpen …
Edgerrin James signed with the Seahawks and they dumped T.J. Duckett
Vick will play Thursday
Raiders added a DT and dumped a CB
Brandon Marshall finally gets on the field in donkey-land
Mark Sanchez named starting QB for the Jets
Plaxico’s E60 interview …
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Half that stuff happened monday Double R!!!!
LOL
August 26th, 2009 at 11:01 am
Just looked at last years stats on NFL.com.
Raiders gave up 5.3 yards per carry.
So if you keep running you get a first down against the Raiders every 2 plays.
That is so unbelievably bad.
And Ryan was untouchable?
Getting D lineman should have been their top priority.
Hope it’s not too late.
August 26th, 2009 at 11:03 am
All right, I finally got into one of these yahoo mock fantasy drafts.
August 26th, 2009 at 11:04 am
Niners running backs? EMBARRASSED THE HELL OUT OF THE RAIDERS..1ST..AND 2ND HALF.
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But lost on the score board with their starters, douchebag!!!
August 26th, 2009 at 11:04 am
San Diego scored 28 pts against us the first game of 2008, 34 points the second game.
How much of an impact will the new defensive coaching staff have?
Greg Ellis & Trevor Scott replace Burgess & Edwards/Richardson at DE.
Branch replaces Wilson at SS.
I think the offense and special teams will have to put up at least 30 points to win Week 1 on MNF
Is it possible without Schilens & Barnes?
August 26th, 2009 at 11:07 am
I’ll be interested to find out which Raider “fans” start Rivers, Tomlinson, Sproles, Chambers, Jackson, Gates, SD Defense and Nate Kaeding on Week 1 …
August 26th, 2009 at 11:09 am
TW, I love your enthusiasm and your willingness to defend the Raiders, but let’s be real…yes the 49ers may not have scored many point off of their crushing running against us, but they are also a bottom dwelling team, so if another team that had a decent QB ran that effectively against us, do you still suppose our D would have held them in that first half?
I seriously doubt it…that is why it bothered me so much watching them get all of those yards…and our starters were in for the majority of those first half yards.
Marshall, you gotta do something before the SD game.
August 26th, 2009 at 11:11 am
A MOCK FANTASY draft? lol now that is getting a little nerdy Vegas!
August 26th, 2009 at 11:13 am
ehem…
might i suggest trading for Corey Williams???
August 26th, 2009 at 11:15 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
August 26th, 2009 at 11:07 am
I’ll be interested to find out which Raider “fans” start Rivers, Tomlinson, Sproles, Chambers, Jackson, Gates, SD Defense and Nate Kaeding on Week 1 …
LOL @ those punks LT is a second round RB and I stay away from all AFC west rivals you know how bad it sucks to be down by 10 points and having a LJ or Gates or LT to winn it for you !!! I WOULD RATHER LOSE THAN CHEER ON these guys!!!!
August 26th, 2009 at 11:15 am
somebody wants to have a practice draft ???
that’s reminds me when my parents made me go to bed at 8:00 halfway through August…
they wanted me to practice going to bed early…
August 26th, 2009 at 11:15 am
Florida Pete Says:
August 26th, 2009 at 11:13 am
ehem…
might i suggest trading for Corey Williams???
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Interesting havnt seen much talk about that…..hmmm what do you think Double R??
August 26th, 2009 at 11:16 am
actually, that last i heard is the Panthers scouting Williams for a possible trade…
August 26th, 2009 at 11:18 am
Pete, I’d trade for any DT with the last name of Williams…they are bound to be good!
August 26th, 2009 at 11:18 am
i already know what RR thinks…
he thinks the Raiders would trade for him to just sit him on the bench…
um… can you spell “shithouse crazy” ???
i guess that’s two words…
August 26th, 2009 at 11:19 am
Dakota, Rack o Sh!t is pointing out the same as you: we gave up too many yrds rushing. Not denying that but they scored only 3 pts, we stiffened when near the goal. Other teams? Ifs & butts, it was also preseason. I’m just as concerned over our run D as anyone but that night we held them 7 downs inside the 10, pretty good huh? You see the glass half full, some half empty. I think the glass is too fukkin’ big!
August 26th, 2009 at 11:19 am
like baseball…
getting anyone named Reggie can’t hurt…
August 26th, 2009 at 11:21 am
RaiderTW Says:
August 26th, 2009 at 11:19 am
Dakota, Rack o Sh!t is pointing out the same as you: we gave up too many yrds rushing. Not denying that but they scored only 3 pts, we stiffened when near the goal. Other teams? Ifs & butts, it was also preseason. I’m just as concerned over our run D as anyone but that night we held them 7 downs inside the 10, pretty good huh? You see the glass half full, some half empty. I think the glass is too fukkin’ big!
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what kind of glass is it???
it wouldn’t be one of those sippy cups???
(those are very cool when you’ve had too many Beam and cokes…)
August 26th, 2009 at 11:22 am
TW,
Yeah, I am a glass half empty type of guy when it comes to the Raiders…I see SF running over us, but not scoring and I then imagine SD doing the same thing, but finishing drives with TDs to Gates or LT…
…anyone have any Rolaids?
August 26th, 2009 at 11:24 am
will Tums do???
August 26th, 2009 at 11:25 am
i was looking at the 05 draft filled with terrific lbs and we chose with our first three picks washington,routt, and walter when we could’ve gotten tatupu, ruud, burnett, crowder, d-end tuck, dt patterson, hill, center j.brown, trent cole, that fukin good ass dt jay ratliff! what a waste of a draft
August 26th, 2009 at 11:26 am
last time we faced the Saints they mopped the floor with us 34-3 in New Orleans in Tom Cable’s head coaching debut. Cable benched Curry & Huff prior to the game. Also took the “training wheels” off of Russell.
I’m curious to see how Cable responds this time on his own turf, even though it’s just a preseason game. I’m sure he still remembers that nightmare. Russell is from Louisiana and embarrassed himself last time. He’ll get the entire first half to prove to his friends & family that he’s a player.
August 26th, 2009 at 11:28 am
Too bad we can’t place those reverse alarms that commercial vehicles use on the pads of G. Warren and Trevor Scott, to warn the linebackers that those guys are being manhandled their way.
hut, hut
beep
beep
beep beep
beepbeepbeepbeepbeepbeep!
August 26th, 2009 at 11:28 am
i was looking at the 05 draft filled with terrific lbs and we chose with our first three picks
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Dont look at last years or 04 or 06 or o…well you get the point!!! LOL
August 26th, 2009 at 11:29 am
I seriously got nothing else to do? I already got action on the Royals-Indians game coming up (Royals -1.5), but that’s not going to do it. I am going crazy everyday, studying and cleaning, studying and cleaning….
Never thought I would be so excited to go back to work next week, lol.
August 26th, 2009 at 11:32 am
what does Seattle have that we could get for Fargas???
i mean these guys signed Edgerrin James…
surely they could use a young guy like Fargas…
August 26th, 2009 at 11:32 am
Congrats Vegas…you already found a new job?
August 26th, 2009 at 11:33 am
i already know what RR thinks…
he thinks the Raiders would trade for him to just sit him on the bench…
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False. I said there is no way the Raiders would trade for him period. not with Kelly & Warren both on the roster and at thier respective salaries. Look Pete, I know you’re trying to stir the pot, but I’m not up for it. not today. find somebody in the PM crew like Kell, MR, Richochet, n0rco bob, etc to satisfy your desire for debate. You shouldn’t need any more proof the Raiders aren’t considering DT Williams unless you’re a slow learner. If thats the case, blame mom & daddy or the school system – not my problem
August 26th, 2009 at 11:35 am
OAKlifer Says:
August 26th, 2009 at 11:28 am
i was looking at the 05 draft filled with terrific lbs and we chose with our first three picks
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Dont look at last years or 04 or 06 or o…well you get the point!!! LOL
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oaklifer, yeah i know dogg man 06 draft was even worse we could’ve got studs instead of scrubs(except t.howard)
August 26th, 2009 at 11:37 am
Yeah, start Monday. Slanging senior health care packages (medicare Advantage and stuff), for this senior care center opening in town.
We shall see how it is, I figured there will always be old people with health issues. This life and health exam I am studying for is as dry as can be. Man it is AWFUL!!! Hence, the ultra-nerdy fantasy mock draft today, lol.
August 26th, 2009 at 11:41 am
Pete –
Rumor has it Seattle already asked about Fargas and was shot down.
August 26th, 2009 at 11:43 am
Rumor has it Seattle already asked about Fargas and was shot down.
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they offered Duckett and a 2nd rounder next year.
Al Davis said “throw in Leroy Hill and you’ve got yourself a deal”
LOL
August 26th, 2009 at 11:48 am
no more infield-post 245-well said!
August 26th, 2009 at 11:51 am
if the fargas deal is true, they should’ve put leroy hill in it too.
August 26th, 2009 at 11:55 am
I wonder what Satele thinks of Joe Cohen?
August 26th, 2009 at 11:58 am
# RaiderRockstar Says:
August 26th, 2009 at 11:26 am
last time we faced the Saints they mopped the floor with us 34-3 in New Orleans in Tom Cable’s head coaching debut. Cable benched Curry & Huff prior to the game. Also took the “training wheels” off of Russell.
I’m curious to see how Cable responds this time on his own turf, even though it’s just a preseason game. I’m sure he still remembers that nightmare. Russell is from Louisiana and embarrassed himself last time. He’ll get the entire first half to prove to his friends & family that he’s a player.
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Actually he is from Alabama and he played college ball at LSU. But it is the south so is there really a differnce? lol
August 26th, 2009 at 11:58 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
August 26th, 2009 at 11:33 am
i already know what RR thinks…
he thinks the Raiders would trade for him to just sit him on the bench…
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False. I said there is no way the Raiders would trade for him period. not with Kelly & Warren both on the roster and at thier respective salaries. Look Pete, I know you’re trying to stir the pot, but I’m not up for it. not today. find somebody in the PM crew like Kell, MR, Richochet, n0rco bob, etc to satisfy your desire for debate. You shouldn’t need any more proof the Raiders aren’t considering DT Williams unless you’re a slow learner. If thats the case, blame mom & daddy or the school system – not my problem
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RaiderRockstar Says:
August 26th, 2009 at 7:36 am
Pete: you still don’t understand. you’re talking about replacing a backup with a starter. Sands is going to be dumped regardless of whether or not we add another DT.
Give me one other team paying what Oakland would be for Kelly/Warren/Williams at DT. and why would Williams want to come to Oakland, sit on the bench and watch our run defense get trampled? what would that do for his value?
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Hey listen RaiderRockstar… you’ve been giving me schit all day… so don’t act like i’m trying to start schit with you… every response you’ve given today has either been aggressive or demeaning…
so don’t get all fuqqing excited and tell me your not up to it… if you can’t take some mild schit… stop throwing it…
August 26th, 2009 at 11:59 am
# Ryan Says:
August 26th, 2009 at 11:41 am
Pete –
Rumor has it Seattle already asked about Fargas and was shot down.
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It is further proof that we really want to win lol. Start farglass. I want another year of no big plays or no game changing moments by our stellar mediocre rb justin farglass
August 26th, 2009 at 12:00 pm
i’m outta here…
August 26th, 2009 at 12:04 pm
I like AZ Raider’s attitude on post #252. My prediction is 8-8 +/- one game. I hope I am right. Despite what allot of pessimists say on this blog, the Raiders have the talent to win the AFC West!
August 26th, 2009 at 12:07 pm
Hey, all u raider fans , 1st time post here, but i have been reading you guys for awhile. I have got to say hats off to Florida Pete and post #298, im still LMAO !!!!
August 26th, 2009 at 12:08 pm
hey Pete. thanks for putting my last 2 posts regarding Williams back on the board. you never responded to any of the questions I asked you, but rather kept up with the annoying “Corey Williams to Oakland” proposal, no matter how ludacris that is.
It’s one thing to have a conversation with somebody. ours wasn’t really considered that. Here’s an example
Q: How many rushing yards did Fargas have last year?
A: Fargas is awesome!
does that even make sense? no! but thats what I was getting from you … take care bro
I got a meeting in the building next door
August 26th, 2009 at 12:10 pm
nordic raider,
way to stay optimistic bro. i hope you are right cuz i think the same thing. We have more talent than all of the afc west and a chance to win it
August 26th, 2009 at 12:15 pm
Raiders do have the talent but the team is soft as hell and no one can doubt that
August 26th, 2009 at 12:20 pm
Raider E,
Welcome!!!
B to tha G wats the happs cutty???
Soft as hell till Cabel kicks the chair out from under them….!!! I think we will see a different team this year!!!!
August 26th, 2009 at 12:20 pm
Teams are typically a reflection of “Executive Management”, and Coaching….
August 26th, 2009 at 12:21 pm
Question; Outside of his girth is Cable “soft”…?
August 26th, 2009 at 12:22 pm
To Weasel on post #280. Your facts are a little twisted. Howie had to convince another Raiders D-lineman not to bring a scappel into the game. I saw Howie tell the story on a sports talk show. I’m not sure about the chop block story.
August 26th, 2009 at 12:22 pm
Yeah Brien we have the talent but do we have the desire?
August 26th, 2009 at 12:29 pm
yeah but i don’t think our offense is. I juss think our run defense is too soft
August 26th, 2009 at 12:37 pm
Man OAKlifer, you know me I’m just looking at it ya digz family? Gotta keep my head on a swivel and watch these j-cats that are in the way
666, that is a great question especially for Russell
August 26th, 2009 at 12:48 pm
Yeah Brien we have the talent but do we have the desire?
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I see Cable in the locker room weilding a chair like a wrestler say: “You BETTER have the desire, kid!!!
August 26th, 2009 at 12:50 pm
i think cable kickin someone’s ass is a great idea
August 26th, 2009 at 12:51 pm
I heard that B,
As far as Jruss goes I think the next two years will speak volumes about the kid but I’m not sure why everyone is on the kid he looked good at the end of last season all he needs to do is build of that some people sound like they are comparing him to jared lorenzen or something….Russell will be fine if he works hard but he is steadily improving and even the haters cant deny that…..
August 26th, 2009 at 12:55 pm
yeah i see some improvement but i wanna speed up that process. This losing schit aint the the biz. I’ll be there saturday so im interested to see our offense against a 4-3 defense
August 26th, 2009 at 12:57 pm
12:37 [Comment From vegas raider]
Over/Under 1.5 balls Shane kicks off that stupid scoreboard on Turkey Day. You going over or under?
12:38 jerrymac: guessing that issue will be settled by Thanksgiving. But hoping it’s not. I’d bet the over
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I got one in!!! Now I am like 2 for 30.
August 26th, 2009 at 1:05 pm
My son ran up a $147 cell phone bill…he is dead.
August 26th, 2009 at 1:12 pm
just make him clean the next dinosaur you shoot Dakota!!!
August 26th, 2009 at 1:17 pm
He was prob googling pictures of jerry buss’s daughter…..you should have never gotten him that thing Dakota!!!
August 26th, 2009 at 1:22 pm
Dakota Says:
August 26th, 2009 at 1:05 pm
My son ran up a $147 cell phone bill…he is dead.
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hahahaha bro yeah i got 2 sons myself my wife can’t stand when they run up their cell phone bill
August 26th, 2009 at 1:22 pm
HEY NATION! WE GOT SOME ROOKIES IN HERE!
WELCOME ROOKS! COME GET YOUR HAIR CUTS AND KOOL-AID!
Nordic Raider
Raider E
9-7!
GALLERY, ASOMUGHA, AND MILLER TO THE PROBOWL!
53 MEN, COUNTLESS FANS ALL COMMITED TO ONE PURPOSE!
1000 FOR DMAC, 1000 FOR BUSH!
PLAYOFFBOUND!
DRINK IT!
August 26th, 2009 at 1:25 pm
Hey…well what do ya know….the old man actually picks up a DT and cuts a one of the dozens of DB’s he has unecessarily on the roster!
WOW! Can’t believe it!
Lets hope the old man doesn’t stop and continues to scan the waiver wire for another DT once the big cuts come!
August 26th, 2009 at 1:29 pm
Ryan Says:
August 26th, 2009 at 11:41 am
Pete –
Rumor has it Seattle already asked about Fargas and was shot down.
^^^^^^Fargas and a 4th rounder for Brandon Mebane!
Mebane is another DT player the old man should have drafted 2 years in round 3 or 4.
August 26th, 2009 at 1:29 pm
I’d take DT RED BRYANT from seattle right about now…
August 26th, 2009 at 1:30 pm
Dakota Says:
August 26th, 2009 at 1:05 pm
My son ran up a $147 cell phone bill…he is dead.
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C’mon Dakota don’t be cheap and don’t cheat yourself. Get the kid unlimited texting.
August 26th, 2009 at 1:33 pm
lets hope for a miracle that the old man starts to draft better!
August 26th, 2009 at 1:33 pm
tazZraider Says:
August 26th, 2009 at 1:33 pm
lets hope for a miracle that the old man starts to draft better!
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Nothing wrong with the old mans draft the last 3 years. He needs to change his deffensive mindset however.
3-4 BABY! Get with the program Al!
August 26th, 2009 at 1:34 pm
AZ, it wasn’t even texting…it was calling his friends in Houston while he was here over the summer.
Don’t worry, I have major payback in store for the boy…I have a friend that works out at Angostura Reservoir…my son will be cleaning out a fish cleaning station on the hottest day of the summer next year.
muhahahaha
August 26th, 2009 at 1:35 pm
Fargas and Garcia should both be traded. Nothing against Fargas, just that DMac and Bush are better options and G-Russ/Rankin are both more than solid No. 3 RBs who can contribute on special teams.
Gradkowski and Frye are much better than any of the backups and all of the starters (aside from JaMarcus) we’ve had since Gannon left.
Lastly, I’d love to swing a deal for Shaun Rodgers or Vince Wilfork as someone asked Jerry about on today’s chat. If that happened I’d go with a starting lineup of:
DE- T. Kelly
DT- Rodgers/Wilfork
DT- Warren
DE- Ellis
With Shaughnessy, Richardson, Scott and Bryant among the backups.
I think that lineup would greatly improve our Run D. Trevor Scott needs to come in as a situational pass rusher like Chris Clemons did two years ago. He’d still see plenty of snaps and wouldn’t have to worry about being a run stuffer.
August 26th, 2009 at 1:37 pm
Dakota Says:
August 26th, 2009 at 1:29 pm
I’d take DT RED BRYANT from seattle right about now…
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You would take, problem is they arent giving.
Bryant looks really good….
August 26th, 2009 at 1:38 pm
Dakota Says:
August 26th, 2009 at 1:29 pm
I’d take DT RED BRYANT from seattle right about now
^^^^^^Another DT they could have had in the draft!
August 26th, 2009 at 1:38 pm
T. Scott is, and will be nothing more that a “situation” guy.
August 26th, 2009 at 1:39 pm
I just hope that Taylor Mays is gone by the time the Raiders pick next year, so the old stubborn man won’t be tempted to take another DB!
For f**ks sakes!
August 26th, 2009 at 1:42 pm
we need to draft a DT in next years draft. if taylor mays is available to us its gonna be real tempting. Unfortunately, yall know davis and he ain’t gonna let him pass up if hes available
August 26th, 2009 at 1:44 pm
My daughter ran up a $680 cell phone bill with wall paper, ring tones and texting.
Needless to say she is now on Metro
August 26th, 2009 at 1:44 pm
Thec07 Says:
August 26th, 2009 at 1:38 pm
T. Scott is, and will be nothing more that a “situation” guy.
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Bummer Thec cause he was looking like he could have been more at the end of last season.
August 26th, 2009 at 1:46 pm
I was thinking about whether or not the Raiders have the personnel to run a 3-4 and of course no they don’t….and they don’t have a DC who runs a base 3-4 either, but they certainly can run a 3-4 more often with zone and run blitz packages.
Lets think about it…
The OLB positions can be filled by Scott, Howard and maybe Ellis. Scott and Howard would be able to play really well standing up IMO when it comes to blitzing and coverage.
The ILB’s would be Morrison and Brown, with Nap backing up.
The D-Line of course would be a question.
I can see Boschetti at LDE, Warren as the NT, and Kelly as the RDE. With Richardson providing back up at the End positions.
They have the athletisism, bulk and telant to run a 3-4 situational zone and run blitz package IMO.
They definitely can’t run a full time base 3-4 though at this time though of course.
August 26th, 2009 at 1:48 pm
666,
$680? Wow, that makes me feel much better…..THANKS!
Damn….here we go again with the posting too fast BS!
Can’t you fukkers get anything right, from your reporting to your IT schit?
August 26th, 2009 at 1:56 pm
Dakota,when I threw my daughter’s mother out of da house,well I told her she has 1 week 2 get-out.BIG BIG MISTAKE.Never give a woman 1 week kick her fukk ass out immediately,or else she will run up a 1,700 phone bill.Well I got it took off my bill because I gave the phone company ALL her information.Hope you feel even better now =)
August 26th, 2009 at 1:59 pm
I havnt got a post 2 fast today…Maybe it’s other peoples turn 2day
August 26th, 2009 at 2:01 pm
AZ Raider, what up BRO????? Still serving up the tall glasses of the good stuff….
August 26th, 2009 at 2:01 pm
tazZraider Says:
August 26th, 2009 at 1:42 pm
we need to draft a DT in next years draft. if taylor mays is available to us its gonna be real tempting. Unfortunately, yall know davis and he ain’t gonna let him pass up if hes available
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Why don’t we do what all alot of these “fans” say?
1. Start a old vet QB like we used to…
2. Get a shyt load of DT in free agency for gobbs of paper.
3. Draft a LT and trade Henderson for a “real” WR.
4. Fire Cable and hire Gruden so he can impliment his new love for the wildcat.
Sound good?
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Offense is almost done!
-just need a RT
Now deffense in 2010!
Hopefully we are not picking top 10 again first of all.
2. Draft D the first 3 rounds without drafting a DB
3. WIN WEEK 1
4. WIN WEEK 2
5. WIN WEEK 3
6. WIN WEEK 4
BYE?
7. WIN WEEK 6
8. WIN WEEK 7
9. LOSE WEEK 8
10. WIN WEEK 9
11. WIN WEEK 10
12. WIN WEEK 11
13. WIN WEEK 12
14. WIN WEEK 13
15. WIN WEEK 14
16. WIN WEEK 15
17. WIN WEEK 16
18. WIN WEEK 17
BYE
19. WIN ROUND 2
20. WIN AFC TITLE
21. WIN SUPERBOWL
22. SMOKE DANK
August 26th, 2009 at 2:03 pm
sierrabeachbum Says:
August 26th, 2009 at 10:08 am
Take a stand, and stick to it – ricochet
unless you learn that your stand is wrong, correct? then sticking to it would simply be an admission of stupidity, correct?
spine is not sticking to your guns; it’s sticking to the truth…any loser can stick to his guns, stuck straight down the drain
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Oh geez..another “can’t connect the dots without my crayon” Raider poster.
Go back and read.
See if you can, on your own, figure out the point.
I’ll wait….
Yep, as expected. Dumber than cotton..
Well cotton, let me help.
Point was Az waffles BACK AND FORTH ON THE SAME POST..not that he changed his mind. It’s that he’s saying that BOTH COULD HAPPEN…
Yep, it’s called spineless.
Now shut up.
August 26th, 2009 at 2:05 pm
I know its only preseason but we are scoring near or at top of the league we have out scored the afc west SD only has put up like 30 points to our 51…….I know only preseason but this looks good!!!!
August 26th, 2009 at 2:06 pm
666,
whoa 666. Thats a whole lotta money. You should start your daughter off with cricket. I have 3 kids, 2 sons and a daughter. My daughter is oldest so she has verizon. My two sons share and they startin off with cricket
August 26th, 2009 at 2:07 pm
later nation !!!!
RAIDER ON!!!!!
August 26th, 2009 at 2:09 pm
Hell yez Thec, slangin that sweet shyt as usual.
August 26th, 2009 at 2:11 pm
C-YA OAKlifer Brother!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
August 26th, 2009 at 2:12 pm
haha guess whos probably sticking dhb on saturday?
the dud jason david!! i remember he was getting torched countless of times on that monday night game. DHB is gonna burn him bad!!
August 26th, 2009 at 2:12 pm
408
408
408
August 26th, 2009 at 2:12 pm
Az,
your hoardin bro……
Pour me up a 32oz glass of that goodness Bro.
OAKlife, Be good Bro>>>>>>>>
August 26th, 2009 at 2:13 pm
Jerry Mac via live chat:
I don’t know if a single DT is going to help that much. Still think they’re missing the big thumping run-stuffer in the middle at linebacker. But there’s no one on the roster like that.
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time to bring back MLB Frantz Joseph and cut SS Jerome Boyd?
August 26th, 2009 at 2:13 pm
Richochet,
Keep my name outta your mouth bro. Who are you calling spineless? You can’t even admit who you team is. Get outta here boy.
August 26th, 2009 at 2:15 pm
Richochet Says:
August 26th, 2009 at 2:08 pm
tazZraider Says:
August 26th, 2009 at 10:12 am
Richochet Says:
August 26th, 2009 at 10:07 am
tazZraider Says:
August 26th, 2009 at 10:02 am
richochet, man get hell of of this blog. All you like to do is diss this team and the people that write on this log and its very obvious that you ain’t a raiders fan.
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Tell you what.
You come mow my lawn, beg a littl, and make me some lemonade..and I’ll consider it.
Tools are in the back.
Don’t forget to trim the hedges..and DON’T GET LEAVES IN THE POOL.
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your a fukin idiot
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What? You’re saying you can’t trim without getting leave in the pool?
I think you can.
Try and be here by 4:00.
And please, keep the begging to a minimum. Quality, not quantity.
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what the hell is wrong with you man? your a straight crackhead and you still haven’t answered my questions.
August 26th, 2009 at 2:16 pm
By Colleen Dominguez
The Napa, Calif., police department plans to question Oakland Raiders coach Tom Cable about his alleged role in a skirmish that left assistant coach Randy Hanson with a broken bone in his face.
A department spokesperson said Wednesday that Cable would be interviewed as part of the ongoing investigation in the near future, but a date was not specified.
The department has been contacted by NFL security and said it is cooperating with the league, the spokesperson said.
Hanson was hospitalized following the Aug. 5 attack that he told police was initiated by a member of the Raiders coaching staff at the team’s training camp hotel in Napa. According to reports, Cable attacked Hanson during a meeting with some of the team’s defensive coaches.
Last week, Cable said “nothing happened.”
“When all the facts come out, everything will be fine,” he said.
Hanson has spoken to Napa police and has not been seen at Raiders camp since the incident. The case was initially closed and then reopened Friday when Hanson agreed to cooperate with authorities.
“Hanson’s future with the team is currently being addressed,” a Raiders executive said Wednesday.
Meanwhile, Hanson has retained an attorney specializing in employment law, potentially signaling yet another lawsuit for team owner Al Davis, who’s already locked in a legal battle with former Oakland coach Lane Kiffin.
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The heat is on…..
August 26th, 2009 at 2:18 pm
vegas raider Says:
August 26th, 2009 at 10:30 am
I just don’t understand how Richochet and others can dismiss the Jamarcus TD to Murphy, as just a blown coverage.
It wasn’t a “blown” coverage. That is when a guy is completely wide open, like when a DB releases a guy on the sidelines and the Safety never comes over (think us in the Ravens game last year).
This was a zone that had a hole, every zone has little pockets, in the opposite corner of the end zone. The Defense called for a perfect laser of a pass in the corner to beat them, and that’s what he did. The DB’s played a little off becuase I think they thought there is no way he can get the ball in their that accurately and quickly, but he did. Caught them, one a Pro Bowler, on their heels a little bit.
Was it a bad defensive play? Yes, but good QB’s take advantage of misplays and make teams pay, and bad QB’s let the defense get away with it.
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You need to look at it again.
OBVIOUSLY Clements released Murphy.
Roman, instead of drifting over, drifted towards the middle of the field, then realized to get back.
Murphy was WIDE OPEN..and “perfect laser of a pass’?? lol..are you serious? The defender was 10 FEET OFF OF THE DEFENDER WHEN THE DEFENDER CAUGHT THE BALL..I could have made that pass..you maybe could have made that pass..my daughter definitely could.
Sorry to burst your bubble, but the only ones..I emphasize the ONLY ones who are saying that wasn’t blown coverage is raider fans who are embarrassed that that freeby is the only thing the Raiders starting offense mustered.
Every sports cast.every newspaper article..all the same..blown coverage.
Reality bites sometimes.
You know..like hearing your new improved D line, THE STARTERS, with your new asst coaches was completely owned by the Niners BACKUPS.
August 26th, 2009 at 2:19 pm
Jerry says…
With John Wade still out, Raiders could could be interested in C-G Duke Preston, cut by Packers. They had talks in the offseason.
oh yeah… FIX THE DAMN POSTING PROBLEM JERRY
August 26th, 2009 at 2:21 pm
Dakota Says:
August 26th, 2009 at 2:16 pm
By Colleen Dominguez
The Napa, Calif., police department plans to question Oakland Raiders coach Tom Cable about his alleged role in a skirmish that left assistant coach Randy Hanson with a broken bone in his face.
A department spokesperson said Wednesday that Cable would be interviewed as part of the ongoing investigation in the near future, but a date was not specified.
The department has been contacted by NFL security and said it is cooperating with the league, the spokesperson said.
Hanson was hospitalized following the Aug. 5 attack that he told police was initiated by a member of the Raiders coaching staff at the team’s training camp hotel in Napa. According to reports, Cable attacked Hanson during a meeting with some of the team’s defensive coaches.
Last week, Cable said “nothing happened.”
“When all the facts come out, everything will be fine,” he said.
Hanson has spoken to Napa police and has not been seen at Raiders camp since the incident. The case was initially closed and then reopened Friday when Hanson agreed to cooperate with authorities.
“Hanson’s future with the team is currently being addressed,” a Raiders executive said Wednesday.
Meanwhile, Hanson has retained an attorney specializing in employment law, potentially signaling yet another lawsuit for team owner Al Davis, who’s already locked in a legal battle with former Oakland coach Lane Kiffin.
^^^^^^^Who gives a crap about that now….
This team (and especially the defense) need to play with a chip on their shoulders and with a freakin closer game instinct!
Next years draft better be on a pass rushing DE beast DE, a beast of a run stuffing DT, a beast MLB and on a RT/RG.
August 26th, 2009 at 2:23 pm
Crabtree’s agent is now blaming Crabtree for the holdout, lol…
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/08/25/no-contact-between-niners-crabtree/
August 26th, 2009 at 2:24 pm
Rockstar…
Even tho Frantz dosent have Raider speed I was disappointed that they cut him without seeing how he would do in contact.I still think the kid can play 4 us…I just hope they do
August 26th, 2009 at 2:25 pm
Richochet,
Jamarcus threw the ball from the 31 yard line, Murphy was a few yards in the end zone, and it was from close to one hashmark to the sideline on the other side of the field. The ball traveled close to 40 yards in the air, with a tight spiral, little arc, and almost hit Murphy between the 1 and the 8 on his jersey. You let me know when you and your daughter can start doing that.
August 26th, 2009 at 2:25 pm
Richochet Says:
August 26th, 2009 at 2:18 pm
The defender was 10 FEET OFF OF THE DEFENDER WHEN THE DEFENDER CAUGHT THE BALL..
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WTF is this guy talking about? How many defenders defend a defender anyway?
9er fan… Has to be.
August 26th, 2009 at 2:27 pm
DKnight007,
You can’t be serious…who cares about the HC possible being arrested and suspended?
Seems pretty relevant to the 2009 Oakland Raiders in my estimation. Then again, Al Davis doesn’t put much stock in coaches, so he probably isn’t too worried. But I think it is worth keeping an eye on don’t you agree DK?
August 26th, 2009 at 2:28 pm
“Next years draft better be on a pass rushing DE beast DE, a beast of a run stuffing DT, a beast MLB and on a RT/RG.”
We said that last year!!
August 26th, 2009 at 2:29 pm
possibly….sorry
August 26th, 2009 at 2:33 pm
If Lawton sticks on the 53, it means they’re concerned about O’Neal holding up.
-Jerry Mac
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exactly what i’ve been saying. Reece is a garbage anyways …
August 26th, 2009 at 2:34 pm
DKnight007,
I’d be shocked if Boschetti makes the team at all. He hasn’t shown much of anything as far as I know.
August 26th, 2009 at 2:38 pm
Silver-n-Black666 Says:
August 26th, 2009 at 2:28 pm
“Next years draft better be on a pass rushing DE beast DE, a beast of a run stuffing DT, a beast MLB and on a RT/RG.”
We said that last year!!
^^^^^^Yeah I know…but next year there shouldn’t be any excuses.
The WR, CB, S, RB, TE, LT, LG, WLB, are all filled.
The old crazy better do the right thing instead of doing the weird odd thing…
August 26th, 2009 at 2:40 pm
i hope we draft another running back in the first round. in my opinion a four headed monster is much scarier than a three headed monster.
August 26th, 2009 at 2:42 pm
I have a feeling that trade we made to NE in the second round when they took Ron Brace is going to haunt us for years to come.
We should have drafted Ron Brace not traded with the Cheatriots.
August 26th, 2009 at 2:42 pm
Chris in NY Says:
August 26th, 2009 at 2:34 pm
DKnight007,
I’d be shocked if Boschetti makes the team at all. He hasn’t shown much of anything as far as I know.
^^^^^^Huh?
He has shown more consistent effort and drive than that big worthless Turd who is making too much money for doing nothin. Too bad Warren doesn’t bring it every play like Boschetti.
August 26th, 2009 at 2:45 pm
The three head monster is a joke. You need a two man roation with a scatback as the 3rd RB for carries and a few catches every now and then. This 3 headed attack is stupid. This is the NFL guys
August 26th, 2009 at 2:46 pm
This was my joke last year but I will recycle it for this occasion.
How we should draft
1st round DT
2nd round MLB
3rd round LT/RG
4th round RG/LT
Etc.
Here is how Al will draft
1st round fastest guy no matter what position he plays
2nd round WR
3rd round DB
4th round another real fast guy
5th round Hussian Bolt
August 26th, 2009 at 2:46 pm
# Silver-n-Black666 Says:
August 26th, 2009 at 2:42 pm
I have a feeling that trade we made to NE in the second round when they took Ron Brace is going to haunt us for years to come.
We should have drafted Ron Brace not traded with the Cheatriots.
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And you know this……………..maaaaaaaaaaaaaaannnnnnnnnnnnnn
August 26th, 2009 at 2:47 pm
5th round Hussian Bolt…….ROFLMFAO
August 26th, 2009 at 2:47 pm
We basically gave them Ron brace, hated that move to the max……
August 26th, 2009 at 2:49 pm
Thats why we should trade fargas, garcia, and morrison
for picks. Unless we get a good run stuffing LB after
cuts its going to be swiss cheese….
August 26th, 2009 at 2:50 pm
wasn’t it Jim Mora who said-you think you know but you really don’t.
August 26th, 2009 at 2:52 pm
Only problem is Morrison is the only guy with any value. All know Fargas and Garcia are going to be released if DMAC, BUSH and RUSSELL are successful this season.
August 26th, 2009 at 2:54 pm
Al’s been pretty good of late with his later round picks, he just stinks the first two rounds.
Myers, Shanessey, Murphy, Norris…..that’s pretty good for later round production.
We just need to tell Al to sleep in on Saturday and I would be comfortable just taking the highest guy on Kiper Jr’s board the first two rounds and than let Al do his thing in the later rounds.
August 26th, 2009 at 2:56 pm
Ron Brace didnt have raider speed. He wasn’t a 1st round waste like Warre. We want fake NTs who can only rush the passer and not play run defense
August 26th, 2009 at 2:56 pm
I would imagine the later rounds are left to the few professionals on staff.
August 26th, 2009 at 2:57 pm
Fuk Brace. Over rated because of who he played along side.
August 26th, 2009 at 2:57 pm
great line by Greg Papa after the whiners kicked their FG for the only points they scored on our 1 and 2 team players-apparently M.Singletary thinks his kicker needs practice kicking xtra points.lmao
August 26th, 2009 at 2:58 pm
Can’t believe “trade” and “Morrison” are even being typed by my own fingers… Move him outside if he can’t stuff the middle! Damn… I want to stop the run, but I get attached to some Raiders and The Capn is one of them along with…
53
76
21
20
81
Hate to let a homegrown go elswhere…
August 26th, 2009 at 2:58 pm
Greg Ellis and the Raiders story
“A new beginning for the End”
http://www.raidernationstation.com/exclusives
And as always Up yours word press…YOU SLOW DOWN! YOUR POSTING TO FAST!!!
August 26th, 2009 at 3:00 pm
Shhhh, no one tell Al that round 1 of the draft is now Thursday night and rounds 2 and 3 are Friday night….I’ll dress in a silver and black suit and sneak in and make the picks for the first three rounds (all DT, DEs and LBers) and then when Al’s weird brother shows up on Saturday, he can handle rounds 4-7.
August 26th, 2009 at 3:01 pm
KoolKell Says:
August 26th, 2009 at 2:56 pm
I would imagine the later rounds are left to the few professionals on staff.
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Professionals in the Oakland Raiders front office? That may be an oxymoron.
August 26th, 2009 at 3:02 pm
then we’d really be in trouble
August 26th, 2009 at 3:04 pm
# Nnamdi21 Says:
August 26th, 2009 at 2:57 pm
Fuk Brace. Over rated because of who he played along side.
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This is false to the max! Raji benefited from playing next to Brace. If you dont know Brace can play all along the dline in the 3-4 as he has in NE. He drew the double teams against the run while in BC. Raji was the UT and better pass rusher while Brace was the run stuffer. I glad you think New England actually wastes time with overrated players. Great observation
August 26th, 2009 at 3:04 pm
I like the article on ellis, I also like him as a Raider.Question, how many years does he have in the tank?
August 26th, 2009 at 3:04 pm
BTW,thanks for the comment yesterday,Dakota.
August 26th, 2009 at 3:05 pm
Kell you going to the game on saturday at 1pm?
August 26th, 2009 at 3:06 pm
No problem Lefty
August 26th, 2009 at 3:06 pm
Ellis has more left in the tank for the 4-3 defense than Burgess’ sorry ass
August 26th, 2009 at 3:07 pm
My god Dakota is here. More leftist talk i suppose. yawwwwwwwwwwwnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn
August 26th, 2009 at 3:07 pm
Man, my wife will be pissed once she finds out that the draft is now over three days, and that I will still need to be at the office talking with you guys on that Sunday about how the draft went, lol.
She, and everything other than the Raiders, gets tuned out during the draft…
August 26th, 2009 at 3:09 pm
So Brien you used to know pastor bennett, small world…
August 26th, 2009 at 3:12 pm
OAKlifer Says:
August 26th, 2009 at 12:51 pm
I heard that B,
As far as Jruss goes I think the next two years will speak volumes about the kid but I’m not sure why everyone is on the kid he looked good at the end of last season all he needs to do is build of that some people sound like they are comparing him to jared lorenzen or something….Russell will be fine if he works hard but he is steadily improving and even the haters cant deny that…..
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“Next two years”…NEXT TWO YEARS? lol..This is year 3, and now you want to basically state everyone should wait TWO MORE YEARS?
In other words, at this point he sucks. So..hey..let’s give him more time..Oh hell, let’s just state “Check back in 2016..if he still sucks after 10 years we’ll slap the bust label on him”
“Russell will be fine if he works hard”??
You realize what you just said?? “IF” he works hard. You are right. He DOESN’T work hard. Isn’t that a tell?
Isn’t that something that should NEVER be on a NFL players resume, much less the #1 pick in the drafts resume?
August 26th, 2009 at 3:13 pm
That’s going to be awesome – Brian the Genital going with his uncle Krappy to the game on Saturday! Nothing like a family of morons coming together over some pigskin.
I can just see those two fools now – splitting one hot dog while filling their pockets with relish and onions for dinner that night, “crossing their streams” at the same urinal during halftime, crapping their pants in unison when Green false starts in the 2nd quarter …
The only thing better than Krappy and Brian the Genital walking hand and hand out of the Coliseum after a big win is them also walking hand and hand into the Coliseum before a big win.
August 26th, 2009 at 3:15 pm
Anyone remember back when owens used to call garcia a homo all the time? that still makes me laugh because he was going out with a playboy model.
August 26th, 2009 at 3:16 pm
AZ Raider Says:
August 26th, 2009 at 1:33 pm
tazZraider Says:
August 26th, 2009 at 1:33 pm
lets hope for a miracle that the old man starts to draft better!
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Nothing wrong with the old mans draft the last 3 years. He needs to change his deffensive mindset however.
3-4 BABY! Get with the program Al!=
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Last 3 years?
Russell-talk is if no major progress this year, bust.
McFadden-has done ZERO. Can’t break tackles. Goes down once touched. Same knocks in college.
Bey-Can’t catch the ball. In two games has done zero.
Care to revise your statement, sir?
In other words, you don’t have a clue.
August 26th, 2009 at 3:17 pm
AZ Raider Says:
August 26th, 2009 at 2:13 pm
Richochet,
Keep my name outta your mouth bro. Who are you calling spineless? You can’t even admit who you team is. Get outta here boy.
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You talkin’ to me, Gumby?
August 26th, 2009 at 3:18 pm
Silver-n-Black666 Says:
August 26th, 2009 at 2:46 pm
This was my joke last year but I will recycle it for this occasion.
How we should draft
1st round DT
2nd round MLB
3rd round LT/RG
4th round RG/LT
Etc.
Here is how Al will draft
1st round fastest guy no matter what position he plays
2nd round WR
3rd round DB
4th round another real fast guy
5th round Hussian Bolt
^^^^^^^Yep…oh and he will draft another TE in round 6 again….LOL
August 26th, 2009 at 3:20 pm
does anyone know how the 2006 ist pick in the draft-Alex Smith is doing these days?oh,never mind i remember reading he has been beaten out by that hot shot, ole what’s his name-Shane Hill.lol
August 26th, 2009 at 3:22 pm
# Thec07 Says:
August 26th, 2009 at 3:09 pm
So Brien you used to know pastor bennett, small world…
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Thec………….damn right. I remember his daughter Connie and everything man. It is a small world
August 26th, 2009 at 3:24 pm
# beeecham Says:
August 26th, 2009 at 3:13 pm
That’s going to be awesome – Brian the Genital going with his uncle Krappy to the game on Saturday! Nothing like a family of morons coming together over some pigskin.
I can just see those two fools now – splitting one hot dog while filling their pockets with relish and onions for dinner that night, “crossing their streams” at the same urinal during halftime, crapping their pants in unison when Green false starts in the 2nd quarter …
The only thing better than Krappy and Brian the Genital walking hand and hand out of the Coliseum after a big win is them also walking hand and hand into the Coliseum before a big win.
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Just another horrible attempt at humor by a woman. Beecher, haven’t you noticed females who try comedy are just not funny. You didn’t get the memo?
August 26th, 2009 at 3:25 pm
Connie was cool, her husband sylvester was realy cool.
August 26th, 2009 at 3:26 pm
Lefty………….Alex Smith is a pro bowler for years to come. SF didnt need Aaron Rodgers. He played in a pro style offense. You know a pro style offense isnt a good indicator of how a college QB will transfer over to the NFL. A spread option type of QB like Smith was a genius pick!!!
August 26th, 2009 at 3:26 pm
Sly was the man!!! We all loved that dude!! He was too damn cool!!!
August 26th, 2009 at 3:27 pm
Thec I dont doubt you and I know each other……….seriously
August 26th, 2009 at 3:28 pm
Richochet Says:
August 26th, 2009 at 3:17 pm
AZ Raider Says:
August 26th, 2009 at 2:13 pm
Richochet,
Keep my name outta your mouth bro. Who are you calling spineless? You can’t even admit who you team is. Get outta here boy.
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You talkin’ to me, Gumby?
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Hey! Who said you can come back in here an post you little girl. Your so butt-hurt I punk your azz all the time, you come in here and target me? Damn your a puzzy troll nerd. Be a man girly girl and admit who your team is.
Nothing worse than a fan who is so embarrassed by their own team they have to spend all their time posting on another site.
Not our fault none of your friends will talk to you on your own teams blog.
You have no idea how much I enjoy reading your mouth-farts pushmychit…
August 26th, 2009 at 3:31 pm
Brien,you’d think so the way whiner followers(they don’t have fans,just followers) like to talk about our QB.Russell may never be great,but he will always be better than Smith.of course that can’t be reported by any media sources.
August 26th, 2009 at 3:32 pm
Brien, I would not be suprised….
Did you ever see any of the local kids play bball?
Jkidd, Gpayton, Gwalker, Ehouse??????
August 26th, 2009 at 3:33 pm
Richochet Says:
August 26th, 2009 at 3:16 pm
AZ Raider Says:
August 26th, 2009 at 1:33 pm
tazZraider Says:
August 26th, 2009 at 1:33 pm
lets hope for a miracle that the old man starts to draft better!
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Nothing wrong with the old mans draft the last 3 years. He needs to change his deffensive mindset however.
3-4 BABY! Get with the program Al!=
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Last 3 years?
Russell-talk is if no major progress this year, bust.
McFadden-has done ZERO. Can’t break tackles. Goes down once touched. Same knocks in college.
Bey-Can’t catch the ball. In two games has done zero.
Care to revise your statement, sir?
In other words, you don’t have a clue.
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Damn your a girl…
At least he’s suited up, unlike your boy Crabtree LOL. Hasn’t even signed yet. Knows he’s no NFL wide reciever. THAT is why he’s holding out. He knows it’s his ONLY chance to get the big dollars, cuz after his contract is up?
FA fasho!
keep it up “pushmychit”, I love it today!
August 26th, 2009 at 3:34 pm
Russell is already better than Smith by far. Smith is a damn loser wimp. His career started worse than Russell’s
August 26th, 2009 at 3:36 pm
We signed another db, michael hawkins..Camp fodder.
August 26th, 2009 at 3:36 pm
General,
Don’t talk too much shyt about Alex Smith… Pushmychit wanted to draft him, and it strikes a nerve with him. Better stay on the DL wit that one, he might target you too…
SSSShhhhhhhh….
August 26th, 2009 at 3:37 pm
I damn sure did! Well GP is a little out of my age. But Jkidd I damn sure remember him. I remember mother’s day in 1994 i got dude’s autography. LOL I interrupted him while he was macking something tough to some broads. EHouse lived down the street from my cousin Dsjon for years. Dsjon went to Palma Ceia as well. His grandma was Marge Colvin
August 26th, 2009 at 3:38 pm
Thec what years were you at Palma Ceia?
August 26th, 2009 at 3:39 pm
new post———>
August 26th, 2009 at 3:39 pm
new post
August 26th, 2009 at 3:43 pm
Krappy, what time are you planning on picking Brian the Genital up for the big game on Sat? I’m concerned because you’ll just be finished with your afternoon feeding and will be primed to crap your pants before kickoff. Possibly in the car.
The best plan is to have Brian over on Friday night to cover your car seats in protective plastic. Then only eat Long John Silver’s for dinner, you have a much better chance of successfully digesting clam strips than you do your usual Arby’s Roastburger with extra bun on the side.
Finally, make sure Brian brings a box of handi-wipes, talcom powder and ski goggles to the game so he can treat you if a crapping explosion occurs in the seats.
Trust me Krappy, Brian the Genital is very talented at cleaning out dirty cracks with maximum efficiency.
August 26th, 2009 at 3:48 pm
beeecham Says:
August 26th, 2009 at 3:43 pm
Trust me Krappy, Brian the Genital is very talented at cleaning out dirty cracks with maximum efficiency.
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This is just sad kid. Everyday you expose yourself and what you truly are
August 26th, 2009 at 3:58 pm
PassTheCheetos Says:
August 26th, 2009 at 3:15 pm
Anyone remember back when owens used to call garcia a homo all the time? that still makes me laugh because he was going out with a playboy model.
^^^^^^Yep….and what has Owens been doing since then?
Crying about his QB, poppin pills, doin sit ups in his driveway and being a cancer in the locker room
T.O. is B.O.!! haha
August 26th, 2009 at 8:21 pm
Come on Brien that last one (#479) was pretty damn funny.