Offense gets a passing grade
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Wednesday, August 26th, 2009 at 8:24 pm in Oakland Raiders.
News and notes from Wednesday’s Raiders practice:
– The Raiders had their longest practice of training camp, which coach Tom Cable says was the plan all along.
It would be hard to blame him for keeping things going just so he could keep watching a passing offense that looked to be putting things together.
Keeping things in perspective, the Raiders had their first units playing against scout teams again as they game plan for the New Orleans Saints.
So they should look good.
But that hasn’t stopped them from having desultory passing sessions for the better part of the last three years regardless of their practice opposition.
During the team and seven-on-seven sessions included in a two-and-a-half hour practice, that changed. Instead of seeing balls strike the ground with alarming frequency, receivers ran crisp routes and caught passes just as they were coming out of breaks.
JaMarcus Russell was extremely accurate, Jeff Garcia had his moments and Bruce Gradkowski and Charlie Frye occasionally got into the act.
Instead of a parade of checkdowns and block-and-release throws to tight ends, virtually every wide receiver got into the act.
Darrius Heyward-Bey may have had his best training camp practice. Yes, he had a drop, but he also had what may have been his best catch _ a play in which he came to a stop, reached back to catch a Frye pass that went behind him, and somehow caught it while falling to the ground.
“Right after he caught it, I said to him, ‘Your mistake is you showed me you can do that and so now the expectation goes up,’ ” Cable said. “But he had a great day catching the ball. You all saw that. That catch right there would be difficult for anybody.”
Heyward-Bey shrugged his shoulders, called the catch “normal,” and said it was all in a day’s work.
“It’s a catch that needed to be made,” Heyward-Bey said. “I was working for the scout team, just went out there, ran a play, caught it.”
Tight end Zach Miller, who a week before said he was hoping for a “legit” offense, was appling adjectives to the potential of the passing game which seemed laughable after a practice meltdown against San Francisco.
“As soon as our offense gets that rhythm and our quarterbacks are on time with the receivers and anticipating them coming out of their breaks, our passing game is unstoppable,” Miller said. “It’s all about timing, rhythm and quarterbacks having trust in their receivers that they’re going to be in there break at a certain yardage, coming out at the right time.
“As soon as they’re feeling them and they’re letting the ball loose on time, you can’t defend it.
Cable called for a repeat performance Thursday morning, the Raiders’ last practice in Napa.
“We’re getting there. We’re getting closer,” Cable said. “I want to see us come out in the morning and do the same thing and build some consistency. When we’ve had a good practice or two, we’ve kind of tailed a little bit, so I’d like to just see us keep it at a high level. But it’s getting there.”
Said Johnnie Lee Higgins: “If we don’t do it again tomorrow, we wasted our time.”
– Cable said he was pleased with the session all the way up to the end, which was out of view of the media.
“Loved all three phases until the last period,” Cable said. “It was a long practice and I wanted to push them a little at the end.”
– Additional practice highlights are available on my Twitter page.
– Among those who didn’t practice included WR Chaz Schilens (foot), T Khalif Barnes (ankle), DE Matt Shaughnessy (foot), C John Wade (stinger), RB Justin Fargas (hamstring), LB Kirk Morrison (elbow), LB Isaiah Ekejiuba (shoulder), S Hiram Eugene, S Mike Mitchell (hamstring) and P Shane Lechler (groin).
Cable said those who could possibly play against New Orleans included Shaughnessy, Ekejiuba, Eugene and Lechler.
Cable said Eugene has missed the last two sessions with the stomach flu. Eugene told reporters he was out with a pectoral strain.
– Two new players, cornerback Michael Hawkins and defensive tackle Joe Cohen, got in their first work as Raiders. Hawkins was released recently by Tampa Bay after being released by Dallas. Cohen was cut loose by Miami.
Jason Horton was waived/injured and received a settlement, and wide receiver Samie Parker was waived to bring in Hawkins.
“We wanted to add a little depth along the D-line and get some more speed at corner,” Cable said.
– Cable said he still considered cornerback spot opposite Nnamdi Asomugha an open competition between Chris Johnson and Stanford Routt. Johnson at times was running second teams, with Routt moving inside as the slot corner when the Raiders went to nickel.
– Tight end end Brandon Myers needed an I.V. for cramps following practice.
– Advertisers for KSFO (560-AM) made for one of the biggest practice crowds of the season. Following practice, quarterback Jeff Garcia walked alongside a fence and signed an autograph for every fan who wanted one.
Russell, meanwhile has discovered a backdoor route out of the field house and was later spotted in the hotel lobby, where there were fewer autograph demands and no media requests.
– Barnes orchestrated a portion of the crowd to sing Happy Birthday to Cornell Green. When Green attempted to exit through the gate to avoid the serenade, CEO Amy Trask brought him back.
– According to an ESPN report, Napa police will talk to Tom Cable about his alleged involvement in an incident that left defensive assistant Randy Hanson with a broken jaw.
The Napa police have not updated their statement after announcing they were reopening the invesitgation of one Raiders coach being injured after an altercation with another Raiders coach.
– Al Davis has a Napoleon complex. A search of Profootballreference.com reveals only four players in pro football history named Napoleon. Three of them have signed with the Raiders _ Napoleon McCallum, Napoleon Kaufman and Napoleon Harris (twice).
The other Napoleon was Napoleon Barrell, a 5-foot-8, 200-pound center who played for the Oorang Indians in 1923. No way Davis could tell if Barrell had “Raider speed.” He wasn’t born for another six years and was probably 15 years away from dominating stickball games in the streets of Brooklyn.
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August 26th, 2009 at 8:26 pm
pure luck
August 26th, 2009 at 8:28 pm
Football news finally?
August 26th, 2009 at 8:28 pm
bfd
August 26th, 2009 at 8:33 pm
Hey Radraider,
Congratulations!!!!! That’s really fantastic!!!
August 26th, 2009 at 8:36 pm
We are improving on offense, now fix the Run Defense.
There is still time to fix it!!!!
August 26th, 2009 at 11:50 pm
# Raider O Says:
August 26th, 2009 at 8:00 pm
6 WRs:
- Chaz ( Go Aztecs!!! )
- DHB
- JLH
- Walker
- Murphy
- Miller
2 TEs:
Miller
Myers
^^^^^^
I think Stewart or Strong need to be kept as well. 3 TE’s are going to be needed on this roster.
August 26th, 2009 at 11:52 pm
Wow, Goodnight all… GO RAIDERS!
August 26th, 2009 at 11:53 pm
The barbers at my barbershop love the niners and they swear up and down the niners are great and the raiders arent competitive. They won by one point, didn’t score a td against our first team, and beat our scrubs… Yet they will be in the playoffs and we will be picking top five.lol Niner fans…
August 26th, 2009 at 11:54 pm
D Knight
I like that but that’s a lot of WR’s. Can we keep that many?
August 26th, 2009 at 11:58 pm
Hey…what was in all those posts that just disappeared? I didn’t see anything too over-the-top. Did I miss something?
August 26th, 2009 at 11:59 pm
BLOG NAZI!
NO POSTING FOR YOU!
August 27th, 2009 at 12:03 am
Q: What will we do with WR Jonathan Holland?
August 27th, 2009 at 12:04 am
Let him go. No need for him
August 27th, 2009 at 12:13 am
yes!! pass game is clicking and im very excited to here russell was extremely accurate. idk if it was against the scout team its good that he was accurate. it was great to here dhb had his best practice yet and javon is workin his way in the depth chart
GO RAIDERS!!!
August 27th, 2009 at 12:14 am
el dirty,
did you say you live in san diego?
August 27th, 2009 at 1:03 am
wow,looks like the mod went crazy.now,how about fixing this site.
August 27th, 2009 at 1:38 am
Reading a blurb about how the cops are going to interview Cable someday and the most interesting thing is the “buzz” created by this NON story.
120 buzz ups and nearly a thousand reader posts.
Thats insane for a team as bad as the Raiders have ben.
Man, people love to hate us and man, I love to hate them right back.
Being a Raider means not suffering fools lightly, but fools sure do love to bash what they don’t understand and never will.
Raider for life…
August 27th, 2009 at 1:39 am
tazZraider Says:
August 27th, 2009 at 12:14 am
el dirty,
did you say you live in san diego?
=======================
He meant to say “Long live whale vagina”
August 27th, 2009 at 1:41 am
Man they need to light it up in the air this week against NOrleans seriously. If this passing game clicks that will just make our run offense real good.
August 27th, 2009 at 1:42 am
Darrius has to ask himself a very simple question that only Darrius can answer. And that question is, “Do I want to be exceptional??”. And if the answer is yes, Darrius has to put in an unbelievable amount of time to make himself so. No one can do it for him, and no one but Darrius can answer that question yes or no. 99.99% of individuals answer “no” that to question. There’s a reason for that. Because as soon as you decide you are going to be exceptional, very very very few individuals that are going to be there with you. It is a very very lonely place, but the rewards are very very substantial.
August 27th, 2009 at 1:46 am
The Raiders will usher in a new era of many wins and dishing out constant beat downs. Im lovin it. Heres to the begining of something good. Heres to a solid 8-8 season and eventually a 10 plus win seasons in the years to come. LET THE GOOD TIMES ROLL!!!!!!!!!!!!
IVE BEEN WAITING FOR YEARS NOW. THIS HAS TO BE THE YEAR RIGHT?!
August 27th, 2009 at 1:47 am
Fukin Miller!
“Unstoppable” huh?
Man, I’d loooove to see that!
Lets hope so!
August 27th, 2009 at 1:48 am
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August 27th, 2009 at 1:50 am
Oakglenn Says:
August 27th, 2009 at 1:42 am
Darrius has to ask himself a very simple question that only Darrius can answer. And that question is, “Do I want to be exceptional??”. And if the answer is yes, Darrius has to put in an unbelievable amount of time to make himself so. No one can do it for him, and no one but Darrius can answer that question yes or no. 99.99% of individuals answer “no” that to question. There’s a reason for that. Because as soon as you decide you are going to be exceptional, very very very few individuals that are going to be there with you. It is a very very lonely place, but the rewards are very very substantial.
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Hes out to prove Chris Carter and the rest of those classless ESPN analyst what he is capable of. The draft is all a crap shoot and we have to hit it big eventually. The Raiders have a hard working player with tremendous upside and untapped ability. We needed a receiver in the draft and we got one. Not some money hungry pre moddonna that wants to hold out for a few million more.
August 27th, 2009 at 1:54 am
DHB stretch that field and continue to get double covered and you will earn every single paycheck he has recieved. 9 VS 10 provides great odds for the passing game. JR just find that free man and we are good.
August 27th, 2009 at 2:01 am
Wow, Oakglenn. So, basically, if Darius wants to be exceptional, he has to decide for himself that he wants to be exceptional. Wow. You should make motivational tapes.
August 27th, 2009 at 2:07 am
The draft was not a crap shoot. Crabtree is a sure thing and the only reason he’s holding out is because both he and the niners know that any team other than the Raiders looking for a receiver would have picked him at 6. Al Davis CHOSE to gamble, and his gambling has been less than stellar. The last solid bet he made was in 1998. He’s been crapping out ever since. I just hope Cable takes control of this football team and doesn’t cow tow to Davis. He already knocked out one of Davis’s guys, so let’s see.
August 27th, 2009 at 2:49 am
Good Morning NATION!!!
August 27th, 2009 at 2:50 am
Amy Trask is lucky birth-day boy didnt have a mop =)
August 27th, 2009 at 2:51 am
# The Real MaddenRaider Says:
August 27th, 2009 at 2:07 am
The draft was not a crap shoot. Crabtree is a sure thing and the only reason he’s holding out is because both he and the niners know that any team other than the Raiders looking for a receiver would have picked him at 6. Al Davis CHOSE to gamble, and his gambling has been less than stellar. The last solid bet he made was in 1998. He’s been crapping out ever since. I just hope Cable takes control of this football team and doesn’t cow tow to Davis. He already knocked out one of Davis’s guys, so let’s see.
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RMR:
I don’t know what else Cable needs to do to prove to you that he has taken control of this team. He is a warrior, he has stressed fundamentals all the way through, and he has galvanized this team with a fighting spirit. Does he need to come over to where you are and knock you out of your chair?
August 27th, 2009 at 2:52 am
Hey 4eva!
We be early up in heeeee-rre!
August 27th, 2009 at 3:02 am
thats 4 sho tbone!!!
August 27th, 2009 at 3:03 am
already loaded the dish-washer,so the kitchen IS CLEAN =)
August 27th, 2009 at 3:07 am
Me too … dude, we’re on the same wave length!
August 27th, 2009 at 3:09 am
Yep thats great.Man it’s just gotta be clean 4me.And your the exact same way IC.It just looks better and it just makes us feel better!!! Thats GREAT tbone!!!
August 27th, 2009 at 3:10 am
Now if only I could get my daughter and roomie 2 feel the same way
August 27th, 2009 at 3:12 am
I bet Cable is a clean freak 2 =)
August 27th, 2009 at 4:23 am
MR what about facts? DHB is in camp busting his arse. Crabtree has a bum wheel and has not even showed up yet.
Right now DHB is better. Until something concrete happens, Crabtree is a wasted pick dude. Did you ever consider the fact that Chaz and Murphy are more like Crabtree type players and we needed a burner on the other side to create space and diversify our offense?
August 27th, 2009 at 4:25 am
Chaz is bigger and faster than Crabtree and works harder than Crabtree will ever do.
I’d rather have Chaz than Crabtree. Let’s see who’s foot heals first.
August 27th, 2009 at 4:29 am
Amen Copenhagen Brother Amen
August 27th, 2009 at 4:33 am
4eva what up bro? Anything cookin’?
August 27th, 2009 at 4:57 am
Copenhagen…
Always got something cooking =)
August 27th, 2009 at 4:59 am
gotta go 2 home-depot and get more supplies ya know
August 27th, 2009 at 5:01 am
This is good news. Hopefully some of you lay off DHB and Russell for at least a day.
DHB is extremely athletic and he can make those “WOW you” catches. Same goes for Russell with the WOW you throws. These players have exceptional talent.
Let the youngsters hone in their craft. It time we’ll see what they will become.
August 27th, 2009 at 5:05 am
I hear ya Terrapin…
It’s the same as anything else,the more you do it the better you become.I admit I always said Jmac shot himself and the team in the foot 4 holding out,but business is business I guess.I think we will see a marked improvment this year in Jmac and by the end of next year DHB will be on fire.Thats just the way it is,imo
August 27th, 2009 at 5:07 am
I just hope and pray Big Al is around 2C the fruits of his labor
August 27th, 2009 at 5:30 am
Chris Sims injured his ankle so now the donkeys only have 2 QB’s =)
August 27th, 2009 at 5:53 am
Orton actually looked good last game. Let’s hope he’s still a chump.
August 27th, 2009 at 5:57 am
Good Morning Nation!!!
What’s up 4eva, Copenhagen, Tbone, Terrapin?
Broncos actually signed Ingle Martin yesterday, but…
August 27th, 2009 at 6:00 am
hej HWNRDR
August 27th, 2009 at 6:00 am
raidertbone Says:
August 27th, 2009 at 2:51 am
# The Real MaddenRaider Says:
August 27th, 2009 at 2:07 am
The draft was not a crap shoot. Crabtree is a sure thing and the only reason he’s holding out is because both he and the niners know that any team other than the Raiders looking for a receiver would have picked him at 6. Al Davis CHOSE to gamble, and his gambling has been less than stellar. The last solid bet he made was in 1998. He’s been crapping out ever since. I just hope Cable takes control of this football team and doesn’t cow tow to Davis. He already knocked out one of Davis’s guys, so let’s see.
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RMR:
I don’t know what else Cable needs to do to prove to you that he has taken control of this team. He is a warrior, he has stressed fundamentals all the way through, and he has galvanized this team with a fighting spirit. Does he need to come over to where you are and knock you out of your chair?
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clearly, you do not appreciate Maddenraider’s resilience…
there is no beating… there is no punishment… there is no amount of humiliation that will get him to shut-up…
the Raiders could go undefeated for the next two seasons and win both super bowls…
and Maddenraider will:
1) say that the raiders are still only 56-72 since 2002…
2) say that until Al Davis retires they will never win 3 super bowls in a row…
3) say that Al Davis deserves no credit because it wa Tom Cable standing up to him that allowed anything good to happen…
so ??? give up on MR… he is not a Raider fan…
but he loves Gruden and Kiffie !!!
August 27th, 2009 at 6:07 am
GOOD MORNING SPORT’S FAN’S. 4EVA,HWNDR,TBONE AND OTHER’S.BOY, THE MOD’S TOOK A PRESSURE-WASHER TO THIS PLACE LAST NIGHT,THE POLITICAL COMMENTARY HAS DISAPPEARED. THANK U
August 27th, 2009 at 6:11 am
I hope for the best but Cable don’t do nothing without Big
Al’s say so and thats just the way it . And when DHB does it in a reg season game then I will get excited .
GO RAIDERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
August 27th, 2009 at 6:12 am
That’s what we’re all hoping for NMF…Good Morning, btw.
August 27th, 2009 at 6:12 am
Hahaha I agree Pete, but the last one #4 would be “I never said that!?!?!?!!!” and blame it on one of the OTHER personalities that reside in that psychiatrist’s dream he calls a psyche. I guess we’ll never be fortunate enough to get rid of him but you hit the nail on the head: … he is not a Raider fan…
August 27th, 2009 at 6:17 am
Morning Nation!!!!!
LOL at last night sometimes I log in and read and refuse to post this place is a madhouse some evenings…lol mornings as well!!!
GALLERY to the PROBOWL
JAVON CBPOTY!!!!!!!!!!
Randy Hanson is really a crossdressing tranny!!!!!
and a little splash for the AM crew!!!!
PLAYOFFBOUND!!!!!!!
August 27th, 2009 at 6:18 am
CBPOTY ???
August 27th, 2009 at 6:18 am
TW, Dirt Lot…Good Morning!!!
Saturday will be my first experience of the 2009 season. Hopefully I leave that game with a better feeling than last year when we got blanked by Arizona (despite intercepting Leinart 3 or 4 times)…
TW…MR will always be MR. Sometimes its actually funny the conversations between him and the rest of the pm crowd!
Dirt Lot…how would I find ya if you go Saturday?
August 27th, 2009 at 6:23 am
catnip backpack ploting on the yacht. in the 3rd person of course!!
August 27th, 2009 at 6:25 am
Ha! He said, “15 years away from dominating stickball games in the streets of Brooklyn.”
Good one. But I thought it was Brockton, MA.
August 27th, 2009 at 6:26 am
COMEBACK PLAYER OF THE YEAR…
got it…
uh… can i have another cup of coffee, please???
August 27th, 2009 at 6:27 am
HWNDR,WE MAY NOT ARRIVE UNTIL 10;30-11;00,HAVE TO MAKE WORK APPEARANCE EARLY.IF U R IN D-LOT,CAN MEET U AT CENTER DEVIDE THERE WHERE BLACK-HOLE CROWD USED TO MEET…ANY BODY KNOW WHERE L M N HAS BEEN ?
August 27th, 2009 at 6:38 am
At about 11AM? Sounds good. LMN, I don’t know. He’s been MIA for awhile now. Anyone see Rockstar this morning?
Good Morning Pete, OAK…
August 27th, 2009 at 6:39 am
Mornin nation. I know its preseason but the aints must pay 4 last years beat down. fix the site. (new mantra now that diRtys free)
August 27th, 2009 at 6:42 am
Copenhagen_Fan Says:
August 27th, 2009 at 4:23 am
MR what about facts? DHB is in camp busting his arse. Crabtree has a bum wheel and has not even showed up yet.
Right now DHB is better. Until something concrete happens, Crabtree is a wasted pick dude. Did you ever consider the fact that Chaz and Murphy are more like Crabtree type players and we needed a burner on the other side to create space and diversify our offense?
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I second that motion! Jerry had it right when he said the real comparison is between Chaz and Brabtree not Crabtree and DHB.
I always say I will never forget the way they went after that young guy at the draft. ESPN was wrong for that especially loud mouth Chris Carter. His son is a WR at Ohio State Univ. and I can not wait for him to get doged on draft day! If he even makes it to the NFL.
ALl of the other teams had DHB ranked higher than the the other WRs. With no one else to trade with he would have been gone by our next pick. Nicks was the only other WR ranked close and they said he put on weight and already ran a low 4.5 40 time. Crabtree dropped like a rock when everyone found out he was a pain in the @$$. Now look this guy is not in camp and then made a threat to sit out the whole season if need be. Nwever worked out at the combine, bad foot, bad attitude.
As we know high paid TO bad attitude clones with God given ability only gets you so far after they bring your team down. This guy already has a crew of people going around with him and he has not even made the big bucks yet.
August 27th, 2009 at 6:42 am
Where did every 1 go. Fix the site.
August 27th, 2009 at 6:43 am
Oaklifer
August 27th, 2009 at 6:44 am
finally, we have some well thought out true raider fan postings in here.
Keep up the good work guys!!!
RAIDER ON FELLOWS!
August 27th, 2009 at 6:45 am
Good Morning 408!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Like 4 days ago I couldnt post but now it’s all good on my end
August 27th, 2009 at 6:48 am
I hope that Javon Walker’s ego is big enough to make him compete aginst the younger WRs in camp. DHBs big contract his salary cut and the media coming down on him after a embarassing year last year. The whole Las Vegas beat down, which still does not add up to me. I think drugs or “tricking” got him beat down and robbed in Vegas. But anyway I am banking that he has a good year if he does not get hurt because he is finally getting pushed by some WRs that want to be the best. Say whay you want about DHB but he is trying to get better every day and I think that work ethic and no nonsense off the field just playing the game pays off. Murphy is coming out fearless and he is not shy enough from taking anyones spot. We already know what JLH can do so it is show time!!!!
August 27th, 2009 at 6:49 am
whoops spoke 2 soon
August 27th, 2009 at 6:51 am
THE SAINT’S ARE A DESCENT TEAM,THE RAIDER’S -STOP THE RUN’ RUSH THE PASSER..
August 27th, 2009 at 6:51 am
check your e-mail 408
August 27th, 2009 at 6:54 am
TREY!!!!!!
Hey buddy thanks for the shout out did you kick mark in the nutz for me???
August 27th, 2009 at 6:54 am
flashing a wad in Vegas and most other places will get you a beatdown and robbed…
what’s weird for me is that Javon did not go out with somebody to watch his back…
if your carrying a lot of cash… some of that should go for some protection…
August 27th, 2009 at 6:54 am
You’re right CJ, I think Javon will have a good year if he avoids injury. I mean, you got to respect the guy for re-doing his salary to remain here and working his tail off to get back in camp. I think he has a chip on his shoulder and wants to prove that he can still be a great receiver.
DHB…I must admit that I was shocked when he was drafted, but his work ethic is going to pay off, and I like his attitude. Gotta love what Cable told him after that catch!!!
August 27th, 2009 at 6:58 am
Jerry…
“Your posting comments too quickly. Slow down.” is demeaning…
my suggestions are:
1. change the phrase to say: “While we value your opinion and want to allow your valuable opinion to be posted on our unworthy site, alas we cannot accomodate your valued posting at this time. Please push F5 and click “retry”.”
2. feed the hamsters that are running your server…
August 27th, 2009 at 7:00 am
Quote from Zach Miller:
“As soon as our offense gets that rhythm and our quarterbacks are on time with the receivers and anticipating them coming out of their breaks, our passing game is unstoppable,” Miller said.
August 27th, 2009 at 7:02 am
HWNDR, WILL LOOK 4 U SATURDAY, 11;00 AM SHARP,
August 27th, 2009 at 7:03 am
CJ Legend 34 Says:
August 27th, 2009 at 6:48 am
I hope that Javon Walker’s ego is big enough to make him compete aginst the younger WRs in camp. DHBs big contract his salary cut and the media coming down on him after a embarassing year last year. The whole Las Vegas beat down, which still does not add up to me. I think drugs or “tricking” got him beat down and robbed in Vegas. But anyway I am banking that he has a good year if he does not get hurt because he is finally getting pushed by some WRs that want to be the best. Say whay you want about DHB but he is trying to get better every day and I think that work ethic and no nonsense off the field just playing the game pays off. Murphy is coming out fearless and he is not shy enough from taking anyones spot. We already know what JLH can do so it is show time!!!!
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Based on what the youngsters and ROOKS say about him, he has been a good mentor. I am not a fan of walker, however he does wear the silver and black so i will support him. Moreover if he does bring it that would be another added viable option to the offense.
August 27th, 2009 at 7:04 am
So…
Sept. 1: Roster cutdown to maximum of 75 players – A week from yesterday
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Sept. 5: Roster cutdown to maximum of 53 players. – A week from Saturday
– So with the Raiders needing to cut five players within the next week who are those five?
(totally scooping JMcD)
My take with the first five…
Compas, Jonathan – G
Bayes, Shawn – WR
Franklin, Will – WR
Schmitt, Ricky – P
drum roll for number 5……
Sands, Terdell – DT
Perhaps replace Sands or one of the two WRs with Gary Russell or Marcel Reece or Luke Lawton
August 27th, 2009 at 7:05 am
Morning Nation!
Ah, I see my brothers have finally reached a point of exceptance! It only took Jerry and David to confirm my preachings. Though, AZs’ word should be more than enough
.
JAVON WALKER COMBACK PLAYER OF THE YEAR!
9-7!
YOU CAN STILL SAY YOU HEARD IT FROM AZ FIRST!
PLAYOFFBOUND!
DRINK SOME!
August 27th, 2009 at 7:08 am
Raider-405 Says:
August 27th, 2009 at 7:04 am
Perhaps replace Sands or one of the two WRs with Gary Russell or Marcel Reece or Luke Lawton
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yoou’re saying Gary Russell, Marcel Reece or Luke Lawton can be a better DT than Sands???
maybe… yeah, maybe…
i can see that…
August 27th, 2009 at 7:09 am
Will be there!!!
Can’t wait to feel the atmosphere of the NATION!!!
August 27th, 2009 at 7:10 am
4eva will do. thec dirtys back so we can start the ffl now. Hows next sat 4 the draft. Ill check in later off 2 work. fix the site
August 27th, 2009 at 7:11 am
408RAIDER Says:
August 27th, 2009 at 7:10 am
4eva will do. thec dirtys back
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LMAO
August 27th, 2009 at 7:15 am
Raider on nation.
August 27th, 2009 at 7:17 am
Sup pete.
August 27th, 2009 at 7:26 am
My brother bought a 50th ann. Raiders patch & had it sent to me. When he got his it turned out to be a Donky’s patch. He called the guy up & said he hoped the guy didn’t send ME a Donky’s patch because I would burn it! I told my bro that he should send me 2. One sh!t on & one to cover it up with. I received both the Donkeys & Raiders.
August 27th, 2009 at 7:31 am
RaiderTW Says:
August 27th, 2009 at 7:26 am
My brother bought a 50th ann. Raiders patch & had it sent to me. When he got his it turned out to be a Donky’s patch. He called the guy up & said he hoped the guy didn’t send ME a Donky’s patch because I would burn it! I told my bro that he should send me 2. One sh!t on & one to cover it up with. I received both the Donkeys & Raiders.
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August 27th, 2009 at 7:32 am
RaiderTW Says:
August 27th, 2009 at 7:26 am
My brother bought a 50th ann. Raiders patch & had it sent to me. When he got his it turned out to be a Donky’s patch. He called the guy up & said he hoped the guy didn’t send ME a Donky’s patch because I would burn it! I told my bro that he should send me 2. One sh!t on & one to cover it up with. I received both the Donkeys & Raiders.
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ROFLMAO>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
August 27th, 2009 at 7:33 am
408RAIDER Says:
August 27th, 2009 at 7:10 am
4eva will do. thec dirtys back so we can start the ffl now. Hows next sat 4 the draft. Ill check in later off 2 work. fix the site
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4eva, what up Bro? Cant do as ffl this year Business is taking over dont have as much time….
August 27th, 2009 at 7:33 am
For Raider fans who can’t go to the game NFL chnnl will show the game live at 2 pm MST. Probably blacked out in Calif.
August 27th, 2009 at 7:34 am
Thec…thats great that your biz is taking off!!! I’m glad 4U!!!
August 27th, 2009 at 7:38 am
Got my NFL shop catalog in the mail yesterday & SF has their Crabtree jersey for order, lol. What if he doesn’t sign?
August 27th, 2009 at 7:40 am
4eva, yeah been really busy. i still find time to lurk and post between meetings…..
August 27th, 2009 at 7:41 am
hell yeah Thec
August 27th, 2009 at 7:52 am
what business are you in, thec ???
it’s good to hear someone is doing okay…
my business is at 4% of what it was a year ago…
everybody’s laid off… truly sucks…
hopeful though… rumors say things are about to break loose…
August 27th, 2009 at 7:53 am
thats right Pete…
1 way or another things are gonna break loose
August 27th, 2009 at 7:57 am
I hope its Dmac and DHB!
August 27th, 2009 at 8:03 am
Last day of camp Nation! Time to get down to buisness. Good to here Russell and his receivers are getting that timing down. I think Zach Millers statments say it all. Once the timing is there the O will be unstoppable.
They will have to be though if we can’t stop the run. Gonna have to put up 40 a game if we can’t get that fixed to a respectable level.
August 27th, 2009 at 8:09 am
Once this “O” clicks, gonna make fixing the “D” that much easier. Cable is starting to make this team see the potential it really has. Raiders take the West!
August 27th, 2009 at 8:09 am
They will have to be though if we can’t stop the run. Gonna have to put up 40 a game if we can’t get that fixed to a respectable level.
My thoughts exactly AZ! At least 40 a game will make it fun to watch again!
August 27th, 2009 at 8:14 am
860Todd Christensen Says:
August 27th, 2009 at 8:09 am
Once this “O” clicks, gonna make fixing the “D” that much easier. Cable is starting to make this team see the potential it really has. Raiders take the West!
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Ha-haa, I was being sarcastic about scoring 40 a game LOL. No way that happens but…
This is true, a successull offense is the best cure for a struggling deffense. Just gotta squeak out 9 wins this year and start on the D next year. I think it can be done fasho!
August 27th, 2009 at 8:17 am
AZ, hwnrdr, now you’re talking the Chargers in the mid 80s. They couldn’t stop the run or pass so they put up 30-40 points a game. Very entertaining but….
August 27th, 2009 at 8:18 am
their defence was cooked by the 4th
August 27th, 2009 at 8:19 am
But then again if we run the ball good, take long drives & score we could outlast most teams. The best way to win against QBs like Brady & Rivers is to keep them off the field!
August 27th, 2009 at 8:22 am
Last Napa practice starts in 15 mins…
Strange how there was no mention of the camp menu this year. I’m sure the big guys were tired of Kiffin’s Tofu ala King.
August 27th, 2009 at 8:23 am
Chris Carter blasted DHB for his lack of “production” in college, his words not mine. So I looked up what Carter did in college compared to DHB.
Carter did have more accolades (1st team Big 10 and stuff like that) but he played 2 more games than DHB, and average about .6 of a catch and 17 yards more a game. In fairness he did have 8 more TD’s than DHB, but still not a whole lot more “production”.
I wish someone would have responded to Carter with that stat.
August 27th, 2009 at 8:24 am
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
August 27th, 2009 at 2:01 am
Wow, Oakglenn. So, basically, if Darius wants to be exceptional, he has to decide for himself that he wants to be exceptional.
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I figured you wouldn’t get it MR. But why is that not shocking.
August 27th, 2009 at 8:26 am
LOL. Jerry’s blog clock is three minutes fast. My cell phone shows 20 minutes past the hour.
This is what a blog would be like if it were invented in 1958.
August 27th, 2009 at 8:30 am
Florida Pete Says:
August 27th, 2009 at 7:52 am
what business are you in, thec ???
it’s good to hear someone is doing okay…
my business is at 4% of what it was a year ago…
everybody’s laid off… truly sucks…
hopeful though… rumors say things are about to break loose…
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3D Animation….
August 27th, 2009 at 8:30 am
Duke Preston to the Cowboys
August 27th, 2009 at 8:31 am
Post # 93,..lmao.
August 27th, 2009 at 8:33 am
If we beat the Chargers in our first game. I am tongue kissing the first hot babe I see at the bar and my wife will not be with me!!!!!!
Honey, if you know my code name I am just joking with the fellas….
August 27th, 2009 at 8:33 am
vegas raider Says:
August 27th, 2009 at 8:23 am
Chris Carter blasted DHB for his lack of “production” in college, his words not mine. So I looked up what Carter did in college compared to DHB.
Carter did have more accolades (1st team Big 10 and stuff like that) but he played 2 more games than DHB, and average about .6 of a catch and 17 yards more a game. In fairness he did have 8 more TD’s than DHB, but still not a whole lot more “production”.
I wish someone would have responded to Carter with that stat.
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I wonder how much the defense rolled coverage to account for cris carter??? cris never rweally was a burner so i doubt he was getting bracketed……
I dont like the “cokehead”…
Nor do i like ” gorrilla face” jackson…..
Two idiots….
August 27th, 2009 at 8:34 am
if things turn around…
i’ll be asking you to loan me some computer people…
my IT guys sucked…
August 27th, 2009 at 8:37 am
Florida Pete Says:
August 27th, 2009 at 8:34 am
if things turn around…
i’ll be asking you to loan me some computer people…
my IT guys sucked…
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No prob pete, we will give you the NATION brother rate
of 30% off……
Hey wait if I give you the AL davis rate you would need to pay me 30% over so never mind…..
August 27th, 2009 at 8:37 am
People in Florida use computers?
August 27th, 2009 at 8:38 am
Al’s master plan for two more Lombardi trophies is back on track.
It will sure feel good to start winning games again.
So what was this place like on draft day when Al pulled a rabbit out of his hat and picked DHB?
Best year ever!!
August 27th, 2009 at 8:41 am
Thec, too bad Jerry’s budget is so low, or he could get you to fix this Site!:)
August 27th, 2009 at 8:42 am
Things may shuffle sideways for a number of years but I doubt we will see much of a rebound.
I believe the bankers and politicians have not finished stealing the wealth of the American people and they will require a few more years to steal pensions and property.
August 27th, 2009 at 8:45 am
860Todd Christensen Says:
August 27th, 2009 at 8:41 am
Thec, too bad Jerry’s budget is so low, or he could get you to fix this Site!:)
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I have a team that could fix this site in less than 2 hours remotely. The bay area has a plethora of people that could fix the site. the IT staff at CCT is a punchline to a bazillion jokes….
August 27th, 2009 at 8:48 am
Andrews Mom Says:
August 27th, 2009 at 8:42 am
Things may shuffle sideways for a number of years but I doubt we will see much of a rebound.
I believe the bankers and politicians have not finished stealing the wealth of the American people and they will require a few more years to steal pensions and property.
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“banksters” have taken a lot, and with out-sourcing that compounds the problem. However now more than ever is the “greatest time” in our nations history for innovation…. Instead of groaning and moaning we ALL need to get up and be “innovative”….. So if you have an idea that you have wanted to do go do it……
August 27th, 2009 at 8:49 am
Now that ZMiller has said it it has a lot more meaning, but I’ve been saying it all along. By the end of the year no one will wan to play this team.
By midseason this passing game will start to really take off. There is no way to take away DHB and yet stop that running game. It’s impossible!!
IMPOSSIBLE!! You have to pick your poison. Either way you are going to die.
August 27th, 2009 at 8:49 am
TJ dont call D-Bruce,..or Gary will find out.
August 27th, 2009 at 8:50 am
Norco Bob Says:
August 27th, 2009 at 8:37 am
People in Florida use computers?
We just received our abacus =)
August 27th, 2009 at 8:52 am
priesttj Says:
August 27th, 2009 at 8:49 am
Now that ZMiller has said it it has a lot more meaning, but I’ve been saying it all along. By the end of the year no one will wan to play this team.
By midseason this passing game will start to really take off. There is no way to take away DHB and yet stop that running game. It’s impossible!!
IMPOSSIBLE!! You have to pick your poison. Either way you are going to die.
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BHP, True you have been trupeting this, as well as myself and others…. I truly beleive that a lot of what you have been saying will come to pass this year….
August 27th, 2009 at 8:53 am
Take care guys, have a meeting ltr….
August 27th, 2009 at 8:54 am
If we had a better o-line, I might agree…
August 27th, 2009 at 8:56 am
I got innovative the past 17 years or so. I have been self employed since then.
I bought dirt in the high desert with a national park as my backyard, dug a well, septic, designed and built a block house by myself out of pocket. The highest electric bill has been 68 bucks. No water bill, no septic or sanitation bill.
I saved some money during the boom and thats also innovative since I am sitting on my butt with little work lately but theres beans and flour in the pantry so I will survive a little longer.
August 27th, 2009 at 8:57 am
The Oakland Raiders drafted Brandon Myers to help ease the blocking workload of fellow tight end Zach Miller, but halfway through the preseason it’s been the rookie’s pass-catching skills that have stood out most. Myers, a sixth-round selection and the last player the Raiders grabbed in this year’s NFL draft, has been one of the team’s biggest surprises of training camp.
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/teams/oak
August 27th, 2009 at 9:00 am
During the draft if we were picking a WR I favored Crabtree initally until I started to hear about his cocky attitude on viisits to other franchises. The Browns needed a WR bad man and they passed on Crabtree, Seahawks passed him as well.
Now lets see after our pick at 7 lets assume Crabtree was chosen anyway by San Fran at 10. The Bills 11, Eagles 19, Vikings 22, Giants 29, Titans 30 were all looking for big WRs. So if we wanted Crabtree and waited until the second round the odds of us getting him were not to great. Maybe but NY really had DHB in their sights. I don’t think he would have made it to our second round pick.
I always felt that out of the top 3 WRs Crabtree, Maclin and DHB. That DHB had the most upside. Crabtree is at his full potential, Maclin had a similar game to JLH and was not that big. DHBs size, speed, and work ethic can make him more than just a speedster.
By the way no one is talking about Maclin having trouble holding on to the ball fielding punts as well.
August 27th, 2009 at 9:00 am
If the depression really starts swinging I am really gonna get innovative. I plan to hire out as a gigilo to all the old retired women around here.
August 27th, 2009 at 9:01 am
The deal that San Francisco 49ers’ first-round pick Michael Crabtree(notes) keeps refusing is apparently worth $20 million over five years, according to the Santa Rosa Press Democrat, with $16 million of that guaranteed. With incentives, it can apparently grow to be as high as $26.5 million. Not bad for a kid just out of college in the middle of a recession, right?
Even though Crabtree appears ready to just sit out the season and re-enter next summer’s draft in order to get more cash, the 49ers apparently haven’t upped the offer since it was first made in June. Crabtree, who was picked tenth overall in the draft this summer, supposedly wants more money than seventh-overall pick receiver Darrius Heyward-Bay got from the Oakland Raiders. But the Niners reportedly don’t want to give him anything more than ninth-overall pick defensive lineman B.J. Raji(notes) got from the Green Bay Packers.
It remains highly doubtful that a deal will get signed before the first official game of the season.
August 27th, 2009 at 9:04 am
priesttj Says:
August 27th, 2009 at 8:49 am
Now that ZMiller has said it it has a lot more meaning, but I’ve been saying it all along.
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I would never have believed Miller if Priest hadn’t confirmed it in advance.
August 27th, 2009 at 9:04 am
Norco Bob Says:
August 27th, 2009 at 8:37 am
People in Florida use computers?
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people on the west coast refer to them as an “abacus”…
August 27th, 2009 at 9:05 am
So I bet a lot of the folks in here were mighty unhappy as draft day unfolded?
Any good war stories from that day?
I suspect history will have proven Al to be at the top of his game during the draft and all the naysayers will eat crow.
August 27th, 2009 at 9:06 am
God, I would love to see Crabtree re-enter the draft next season, and I hope they invite him to the green room so that we can watch him squirm as he drops out of the top 20 picks! muhahahaha
Hey Crabtree, better sign that deal because Matt Millen isn’t going to bail your ass out in next year’s draft lol!
August 27th, 2009 at 9:07 am
Yas pete,..last time I checked silicon valley was here, not there.
August 27th, 2009 at 9:08 am
I was hopeing for Kenny Britt, lol, DHB will do just fine!
August 27th, 2009 at 9:10 am
lmao
August 27th, 2009 at 9:10 am
Andrew’s mom beat me to the abacus thing…
scorched again !!!
August 27th, 2009 at 9:12 am
better check again Pete
August 27th, 2009 at 9:15 am
Did LMN die or something? I miss that little commie.
August 27th, 2009 at 9:15 am
ooops… you did…
MORE COFFEE PLEASE !!!!
August 27th, 2009 at 9:15 am
Didn’t LMN say he was going on Holliday or something?
August 27th, 2009 at 9:16 am
thats commie BASTARD Dakota =)
August 27th, 2009 at 9:20 am
Holliday? He’s been gone for weeks and weeks! I guess those socialists do get half the year off…
August 27th, 2009 at 9:20 am
A paid holiday in Denmark can last several years…
August 27th, 2009 at 9:21 am
Holiday…sorry
August 27th, 2009 at 9:22 am
LMN’s g/f left him and went back to England, with heavy heart, he went on a Holiday, if I remember correctly….the few brain cell’s I have remaining are cloudy…..
August 27th, 2009 at 9:25 am
Dakota, if you don’t see that this Oline is much improved by now. I don’t know what to tell ya’. When I saw Mario hold DeMarcus Ware to a shut out that was ALL I needed to see. Mario has been flawless so far.
Now they need to fix the right side OG OT and that is not to say the players aren’t there I think they are in fact I believe RT OK. I just want a more stout RG than Carlisle. Green hasn’t been beaten he’s just made some bothersome penalties. So as far as Oline is concerned we’re about as solid as most teams.
August 27th, 2009 at 9:26 am
Man, some guy here in Hot Springs rolled his car and killed his two kids the other night…alcohol was involved and the kids were supposedly not in seat belts…he suffered pretty minor injuries…
…vehicular homicide here we come!
August 27th, 2009 at 9:27 am
Andrew’s Mom, since you are being innovative… how about coming up with another nick? Your boy rolled over and quit so it is time to adopt another child.
Andrew doesn’t deserve to inherit your compound anyway.
August 27th, 2009 at 9:27 am
860Todd Christensen Says:
August 27th, 2009 at 9:22 am
LMN’s g/f left him and went back to England, with heavy heart, he went on a Holiday, if I remember correctly….the few brain cell’s I have remaining are cloudy…..
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wait a minute…
YOU got drunk because LMN’s girlfriend left him???
um, wow… now that’s sympathy…
you’re a real friend…
August 27th, 2009 at 9:29 am
Florio is a joke but funny to read jokes from time to time this caught me chin…errr eye
August 27th, 2009 at 9:30 am
sorry the link please……
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/08/21/-the-raiders-find-a/
August 27th, 2009 at 9:30 am
4get the homicide Dakota,the guy killed his own kids.Hide the gun from him and make him live with it
August 27th, 2009 at 9:33 am
I am glad that is how you feel Priesttj, I on the other hand feel that our C is unproven, and, as you stated RG needs work, but I also believe that Green, although decent in the run blocking area, needs major work on his pass blocking and commits way too many penalties.
That is three of the five o-linemen I am worried about…hopefully they all have great years, but until they prove it during the regular season I am not going to anoint this offense the next 1990’s Dallas Cowboys just yet.
Also, I’d like to see DHB make a catch in a game, Russell complete closer to 60% of his passes, and McFadden and Bush get the majority of carries before I fly off the handle and call this offense impossible to stop, lol.
August 27th, 2009 at 9:33 am
From Wiki: Duke Preston signed with the Dallas Cowboys on August 26, 2009, declining offers from the Cleveland Browns and Oakland Raiders
August 27th, 2009 at 9:34 am
good post OAKlifer!!!
August 27th, 2009 at 9:35 am
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August 27th, 2009 at 9:38 am
4evaRaider Says:
August 27th, 2009 at 9:30 am
4get the homicide Dakota,the guy killed his own kids.Hide the gun from him and make him live with it
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Nope, send his ass to the pen for 15 years and let him think about it 24 hours a day while sharing a cell with another POS…then he wont get drunk and kill my wife on the highway.
August 27th, 2009 at 9:40 am
What I meant Dakota is no penalty except death will be greater that the penalty his OWN brain will put on him.But I agree also lock him up and never let him drive again
August 27th, 2009 at 9:41 am
O’Duke blew it =)
August 27th, 2009 at 9:41 am
Mornin’ Nation!!
This passing offense is gonna be real good. Zach Miller is right this passing offense will be unstoppable and if the o-line holds up well. Haters are gonna find out why we chose dhb instead of crabtree and they gonna see us win the afc west!!!
GO RAIDERS!!!
August 27th, 2009 at 9:43 am
163. Go poach somewhere else RF net you fukin suk cawk!!!!
August 27th, 2009 at 9:44 am
FREE UNCLE BUCK!!!!!!!!
August 27th, 2009 at 9:46 am
4eva, I agree, that guy will never be able to look himself in a mirror again, he will mentally punish himself for the rest of his life…as he should. The guy’s life (and he is only 28 years old) is over. What a tragedy…his wife was stationed in Germany…can you imagine having to fly home to face that?
I heard they were on the outs and she left him and the kids to be with some other guy, but I still feel for her.
August 27th, 2009 at 9:48 am
Andrew’s Mom, since you are being innovative… how about coming up with another nick? Your boy rolled over and quit so it is time to adopt another child.
Andrew doesn’t deserve to inherit your compound anyway.
Good points. I need a new nick.
August 27th, 2009 at 9:50 am
Point taken… but Zmiller who I think has a much better handle on things than either you or I, made that statement not me. I said it is impossible to shut down both DHB and the running game. Which very different from what you are indicating. That is true of any team that has that kind of speed outside and that kind of power inside. But you’d have to know a little about football to understand that.
Where ZMiller and I agree is that when the timing betweens passer and reciever is tight the passing game will be unstoppable (his words not mine) I do however think as I’ve said by midseason the passing game will start to take off and by years end no one will look forward to playing the Raiders.
Does that clarify things for you Dakota?
August 27th, 2009 at 9:51 am
hey how bout Southwicks DAD
just an idea
August 27th, 2009 at 9:53 am
What’s up Nation! Good news from practice. Im taking it with a grain of salt to say the least…….not to change the subject and all, fellas help me out those who are married with kids, any of you have a decline in the ass department? Me and my wife used to get it on nearly every night now im lucky for 2 times a week. Anyone go through the same thing? Btw go Raiders
August 27th, 2009 at 9:54 am
The biggest silver lining so far in the preseason has been the pass protection. RB’s have done a good job picking up the blitz (except the one D-Mac wiff in the Dallas game), and Jamarcus has had plenty of time to toss the rock.
Henderson has been superb as well.
August 27th, 2009 at 9:56 am
LMFAO DBW …
LMFAO!
She’s a mom now, so her mentality has completely changed. No way can she let the kids come in and catch her in compromising positions. LMFAO!
My suggestion is to wake up around 1:30am ….
August 27th, 2009 at 9:58 am
any of you have a decline in the ass department? Me and my wife used to get it on nearly every night now im lucky for 2 times a week. Anyone go through the same thing? Btw go Raiders
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Andrews Mom Says:
August 27th, 2009 at 9:00 am
If the depression really starts swinging I am really gonna get innovative. I plan to hire out as a gigilo to all the old retired women around here.
August 27th, 2009 at 9:58 am
that is some fukked up shizzit Dakota
August 27th, 2009 at 10:00 am
FREE LMN!
August 27th, 2009 at 10:01 am
Why does it seem the drunk drivers survive the car crashes?
August 27th, 2009 at 10:04 am
Lol yeah well ……..sht I wish someone would have told me this was gonna happen..I could have gotten all I could get before the the ass recession
August 27th, 2009 at 10:04 am
Double R hope all is well!!!!
LMN she isnt worth it!!!!!
FREE UNCLE BUCK!!!!!!
(support A’s mom an I new buisness)
August 27th, 2009 at 10:06 am
RaiderTW Says:
August 27th, 2009 at 10:01 am
Why does it seem the drunk drivers survive the car crashes?
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Being drunk allows your body to loosen up and contort in many different ways also allows you body to be in a state of shock for a bit longer which could lead to you livivng or being saved….
August 27th, 2009 at 10:06 am
Dakota,
Remember: you’d have to know a little about football to understand that.
August 27th, 2009 at 10:07 am
priesttj Says:
August 27th, 2009 at 8:49 am
Now that ZMiller has said it it has a lot more meaning, but I’ve been saying it all along. By the end of the year no one will wan to play this team.
By midseason this passing game will start to really take off. There is no way to take away DHB and yet stop that running game. It’s impossible!!
IMPOSSIBLE!! You have to pick your poison. Either way you are going to die.
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Priesttj,
Oh, my bad, I thought the o-line would have to be decent in order for our passing game to be impossible to stop…you are the resident football genius so I shall defer to your great mind!
lmao
August 27th, 2009 at 10:09 am
raidertbone Says:
August 27th, 2009 at 2:51 am
# The Real MaddenRaider Says:
August 27th, 2009 at 2:07 am
The draft was not a crap shoot. Crabtree is a sure thing and the only reason he’s holding out is because both he and the niners know that any team other than the Raiders looking for a receiver would have picked him at 6. Al Davis CHOSE to gamble, and his gambling has been less than stellar. The last solid bet he made was in 1998. He’s been crapping out ever since. I just hope Cable takes control of this football team and doesn’t cow tow to Davis. He already knocked out one of Davis’s guys, so let’s see.
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RMR:
I don’t know what else Cable needs to do to prove to you that he has taken control of this team. He is a warrior, he has stressed fundamentals all the way through, and he has galvanized this team with a fighting spirit. Does he need to come over to where you are and knock you out of your chair?
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First off, how is a coach a “warrior”?? Makes no sense. He’s a coach. That’s it. Every single head coach in the NFL does what you mention above, bar none. Some outlandishly so, others in their own way.
Wasn’t the same said about Shell? “A warrior”? “Going to bring back the fighting spirit”? “Back to basics”?
These are grown men. Professionals. This isn’t high school, rah rah crap. They don’t respond to “warrior” beliefs or “galvanized with fighting spirit”.
If a player comes into the league WITHOUT A FIGHTING SPIRIT?? You don’t last a week.
Cable is a slob. Players know that. Cable hasn’t done squat, himself, on the field. Players know that. Cable is a hypocrite when he stresses “control”, AND PLAYERS KNOW THAT. Cable isn’t in charge, Al is, AND EVERYONE KNOWS THAT.
Just the way it is.
August 27th, 2009 at 10:10 am
While crabby pants still holdin out DHB is working on being rookie of the year, may I addagain that I am sooo happy we didn’t get that damn looser!!! And I think miller may be correct but we need more time. As long as we get that dang slant play out of the play book or put it in the very back we will bbe fine….. I hate when we run that play Russell just stares the guy down and if its covered he don’t have a 2nd option, please dump that play cable!!!! Don’t wanna see it against the Saints
August 27th, 2009 at 10:10 am
I agree TW…maybe its the lords way of showing them how bad they fukked up.If they died,presumably they wouldnt know
August 27th, 2009 at 10:10 am
Raiders gave up 5.3 yds /carry last year.
As I said before, that means if they run every down, you get a 1st down every 2 plays.
Fortunately, no team did that, so we won a few games.
Oddly enough they did were in the middle of the league as far as rushing td’s.
So they tightened up when it counted.
Dline hasn’t improved that much.
But if Raider offense is a juggernaut, other teams’ll get desperate and start passing.
And that will give the Dline time to improve.
Next year Dline will be their focus.
Playoffs this year.
No doubt.
When players see that we have a real team again, you’ll see top notch free agent d lineman coming to the Raiders.
Right now they’re listening to stupid loudmouths who will still trash the Raiders when they start playing well this yr.
Sapps a fat idiot who never even tried when he was in Oakland.
Zero cred.
Carter’s bitter cause he never got a ring.
Costas, marino, carter,and collinsworth(the worst and most stupid announcer EVER!) killed “This Week in NFL” on HBO.
Made it unwatchable.
I won’t watch any game where collinsworth even opens his mouth.
Makes Cossell look like a genius.
August 27th, 2009 at 10:13 am
DirtyBathWater Says:
August 27th, 2009 at 9:53 am
Me and my wife used to get it on nearly every night now im lucky for 2 times a week.
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You whinin’ about 2 times a week?
As women get older they conclude it is best to “conserve precious bodily fluids”. Basically, this is because women produce less and less testosterone, which is the underlying stimulus for the ass economy.
August 27th, 2009 at 10:14 am
Sorry you guys.
I’ll tell your wives to leave me alone so you can start gettin’ some again.
August 27th, 2009 at 10:16 am
Also, I want to say that as far as C on this Oline I was fine with Grove and defended him many times in here. Yes he was injured a bit too much for my taste but he was a very good technician. But most in here thought he was the worst center in the league until now(because he’s on another team) Satele is a concern for me I’m not sure he is as technically sound as Grove was.
However under Cable I’m sure he’ll get better just looking at what Cable has done with Green says it all. Now they say Green is the worst RT in the league( far from it) but it goes with every player on this team. If they don’t like them then they suck. While Green wont get many All Pro honors anytime soon he is very serviceable. This kid Johnson could be what we’re looking for at RG. And this would be a solid line. And when Barnes is healthy we’ll have depth at RT.
August 27th, 2009 at 10:18 am
priesttj Says:
August 27th, 2009 at 8:49 am
Now that ZMiller has said it it has a lot more meaning, but I’ve been saying it all along. By the end of the year no one will wan to play this team.
By midseason this passing game will start to really take off. There is no way to take away DHB and yet stop that running game. It’s impossible!!
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Give me a break.
You still have a makeshift o line. How is that “scary’?
You still aren’t even sure who’s the receivers. how is that “scary’?
D line is still the worst in the league..D backs aren’t even set..Qb is very spotty, inconsistent, and little defensive awareness.
I notice you run the “by the end of the year” take.
A month ago wasn’t it “this year”???
In other words, you know that now the Raiders scare no one and you’re hoping for a miracle.
August 27th, 2009 at 10:19 am
Cmon Priest,
Cornbread Green should not be starting! If not for the Barnes injury, he wouldn’t be. His biggest problem last year was penalties, and it’s been the same story so far this year. And he seems to wait until we get in the red zone to F that up. The only thing saving him so far in preseason is JRuss getting rid of the ball quicker. RT and RG are the weak links on the line. And Satele was on his back or whiffing more often than not.
August 27th, 2009 at 10:19 am
I was leaning twords “Coles daddy”
http://www.raiders.com/Raiderettes/CheerleaderBio.aspx?id=716
Oaklife>>>>>>> haha good one on the gigilo . There should be lots of business.
I keep getting slow down, posting too often message even though I have waited ten minutes.
Nothing has changed in Jerrys dump.
August 27th, 2009 at 10:21 am
Hmmm BSJ very insightful man, so am I to just man up and get my lucky 2?
August 27th, 2009 at 10:22 am
Andrews Mom Says:
August 27th, 2009 at 9:05 am
So I bet a lot of the folks in here were mighty unhappy as draft day unfolded?
Any good war stories from that day?
I suspect history will have proven Al to be at the top of his game during the draft and all the naysayers will eat crow.
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Sorry, but history is already saying that Bey was a bad pick for #7, and that your round two pick makes this years draft the WORST of any team.
So far those day one reports are dead on, and Bey and Mitchell are both sub par.
August 27th, 2009 at 10:23 am
I can’t wait to watch the impossible to stop Oakland Raiders offense!
Wow, amazing what one good practice against a scout team does to the minds of the average Raiders’ fan!
lol
I guess we will make the 2007 Pats look like chumps right? Impossible to stop! Pick your poison baby! 30 ppg fo sho!
Some of you guys really crack me up. How about we win some games before we start proclaiming that we are impossible to stop in any area of the game of football?
August 27th, 2009 at 10:23 am
My ex just got hornier after giving birth. She made me have sex 4 days after popping out minime. I was told that was impossible but she proved the naysayers wrong.
August 27th, 2009 at 10:25 am
Rich——– Who is your favorite team?
August 27th, 2009 at 10:26 am
For all who can’t get to twitter:
JaMarcus rifles 25-yard seam pass to Zach Miller for 25 yds. Great pass, great start.
3 minutes ago from mobile web
2-minute drill. Down 10-7, 1:32 left, from own 20. Last drill of training camp, first teams on field.
7 minutes ago from mobile web
TE Darrell Strong with 2nd end zone drop. Makes the roster decision too easy on cut day.
10 minutes ago from mobile web
Red zone defense allows 4 of 6 passing but no TDs for scout team.
21 minutes ago from mobile web
JaMarcus 5 of 6 with 4 TDs in scout team red zone.
27 minutes ago from mobile web
Wow. Team drill, JaMarcus puts 10-yd bullet past Zach Miller into Javon’s hands in back of end zone. That’s a tiny window.
29 minutes ago from mobile web
DHB double tips INT to Napo Harris, who went from beat on the play to end zone INT. OK, maybe he’s got fumes to run on.
32 minutes ago from mobile web
Shawn Bayes beats Napo Harris for TD. I’m afraid that tank is run dry.
34 minutes ago from mobile web
Tyvon whiffs going for pick, TD instead. “You’ve got to make that play somehow,” DC John Marshall yells.
35 minutes ago from mobile web
Huff comes back to earth, yelled at after clearly being beat on Todd Watkins TD.
36 minutes ago from mobile web
SS Tyvon Branch w/3rd pick in 2 days, steals Gradkowski pass from Brandon Myers in end zone.
37 minutes ago from mobile web
They run exact same call on next play, Murphy catches it this time.
38 minutes ago from mobile web
Louis Murphy drops goal-line flare from JaMarcus. “Aw, make that catch!” WR coach Sanjay Lal groans.
39 minutes ago from mobile web
And yet another TD for DHB in 7 on 7 vs scout team. If only it was always this easy, at least it builds confidence.
42 minutes ago from mobile web
RB Michael Bush beats MLB Napoleon Harris for TD catch. Afraid it says more about Napo than anything else.
44 minutes ago from mobile web
DHB follows up big Wednesday with catch on a bullet going over his head in end zone.
about 1 hour ago from mobile web
Desmond Bryant and William Joseph get all the 2nd team snaps. Ryan Boschetti better hope against hope they carry five DTs.
about 1 hour ago from mobile web
S Jerome Boyd knocks ball loose from TE Brandon Myers for the first fumble in more than a week.
about 1 hour ago from mobile web
Michael Huff rolling w/1st team, gets pass breakup on Todd Watkins.
about 1 hour ago from mobile web
Nnamdi Asomugha picks Bruce Gradkowski. He’s practicing after all,
about 1 hour ago from mobile web
JaMarcus 5 of 6 with only 2 checkdowns vs scout team. Incompletion was Javon’s fault. Will this translate to the game Sat?
about 1 hour ago from mobile web
Todd Watkins turns for a comeback route, JaMarcus’ ball already on the way. His timing has never been better.
about 1 hour ago from mobile web
Javon Walker still figuring it out, runs wrong route on timing pass to nowhere.
about 1 hour ago from mobile web
FS Hiram Eugene also out, looks like Michael Huff will make his first start since October.
about 1 hour ago from mobile web
Others out of action include CB Nnamdi Asomugha, RB Justin Fargas and rookie DE Matt Shaughnessy.
about 1 hour ago from mobile web
Welcome to the last day of camp. Rookie OLB Slade Norris won’t take part with a wrap on his right leg.
August 27th, 2009 at 10:28 am
I was serious when I said I have recieved no news about the team this year.
This blog is the first one I have read this year and it sounds like the O looked pretty dern good.
Has the team looked good at practice all year?
Has anyone stood out?
August 27th, 2009 at 10:30 am
Over the past 6 seasons everytime we win a game half of us go nuts and start proclaiming a turnaround! The best was after the Jets game last year…hell, some guy in here formerly known as BHP even started comparing Cable to Madden after that game, lol.
This preseason, we beat Dallas’s scrubs and we are the best ever, but when the 49ers scrubs beat us, well, we won the game while the starters were in by gosh!
Good stuff!
August 27th, 2009 at 10:31 am
Again common sense makes no sens with you Dakota, I’m referring to the RUNNING game and the speed at WR working in combo. Get it? the plays when a HB get’s the ball and runs. You ever seen those?
Anyone that knows football knows trying to stop a power running game and also stop deep speed puts the defense in a quandry (limbo if you will). I was not just talking of the passing game when I used the word Impossible. I mentioned the passing game will start to take off by midseason. And yes with assistance of a fully functional OLine. Which should go without saying. But nonetheless I do agree with ZMiller when the timing is tight.
But enough of this banter. Your point is well taken.
August 27th, 2009 at 10:34 am
Andrew your crazy, it makes nooo sense how is that possible with the bleeding and the grand canyon effect? Your just blurting out crazy madness.. No way any women has sex 4 days after child birth
August 27th, 2009 at 10:35 am
He reminds me of Madden that doesn’t mean he will have that type of success of course. Dakota does one have to spell out every thought to you in order for you to comprehend a passing comment. No one in here is aying Cable is the next Madden. And anyone would understand that except of course YOU.
August 27th, 2009 at 10:36 am
It’s not just one good practice.
Anyone with a brain can see it’s different this year.
We would have won a lot of games last year if it hadn’t been for Ryan’s swiss cheese d.
Offense wasn’t that great but good enough if the d had done it’s job protecting leads.
It’ll be fun watching you haters eat crow with your boogers in about 6 weeks.
August 27th, 2009 at 10:37 am
Ryan>>>>>>>. Thats the most informative report I have ever heard on a practice.
I have not ever used Twitter. It sure caught on fast.
Do you have a link for that info?
Dirty<<<<<<<<<<< True story!! I was shocked as well.
I had to write to everyone in one post because I am posting too fast and need to slow down. Thats getting a little ridiculous.
August 27th, 2009 at 10:38 am
Non of this is going to matter when teams can run through our defense at will.
Be prepared for long sustained running drives against us all year. Can you still win in those situations, yes a few games but we won’t be over .500 until we address the run defense.
I love my team and I just as much as all of you want a winning season but seriously lets be real our run defense is 31st.
August 27th, 2009 at 10:43 am
Huff should start over Eugene, eugene freaking sucks man wtf?! Huff will start this year!
August 27th, 2009 at 10:51 am
So BHP, when you say Cable reminds you of Madden, you just mean that they are both fat white guys?
Otherwise, you are comparing Cable the coach to Madden the coach right?
….but hey, you are also the guy that said all was well between Kiffin and Al Davis before last season lol.
August 27th, 2009 at 10:52 am
Richochet Says:
August 27th, 2009 at 10:09 am
Cable is a slob. Players know that. Cable hasn’t done squat, himself, on the field. Players know that. Cable is a hypocrite when he stresses “control”, AND PLAYERS KNOW THAT. Cable isn’t in charge, Al is, AND EVERYONE KNOWS THAT.
Just the way it is.
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and you, sir… are a moron…
AND EVERYONE KNOWS THAT !!!
August 27th, 2009 at 10:54 am
I like Cable. I think he will prove himself to be a very good head coach.
If he gets the team to 8-8 he deserves a new rock em sock em set for Christmas.
And if he takes us to the playoffs (which I deem highly likely) he will be coach of the year.
Best year ever!!!!!
August 27th, 2009 at 10:57 am
I see this team as fledgling trying to establish it self in the league. How long that will take, who knows. But the principle parties such as Russell, DMC, Bush and the WR’s are all attempting to establish them selves as NFL starters.
Saying what they will or wont do this year is a shot in the dark. Health is key. But this is a very young team that first needs to gain confidence in THEMSELVES. You can’t win sonsiteantly until you have that.
So I see us using this year to establish who we are. That’s defensively and offensively. The sooner they do that the sooner you can say where they will end up.
Anything is anybodies guess yours as well as mine. They don’t have the confidence it takes to be dominant at anything. And we’ll see how long it takes to gain that confidence.
August 27th, 2009 at 10:58 am
Andrews Mom Says:
August 27th, 2009 at 10:25 am
Rich——– Who is your favorite team?
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are you takling to richochet??? he prefers rack-o-schit…
rack-o-schit’s favorite team of all time are the Bay Street Bungholers…
August 27th, 2009 at 10:59 am
Saying we would have won more games without ryan d is liking saying the Dubs wouldn’t suck so bad if Nellie knew how to coach D. Oh well I still rather go into a season with DHB,JLH,Murphy and a hurt Chaz than Lelie,Curry, and the abortion that was the 2008 Raiders wr core!
GO RAIDERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
August 27th, 2009 at 11:00 am
I was just speaking on demeanor and approach, that’s all.
I still say Kiffin has the ability to be a brilliant coach. If he can just growup and cut out the distructive behavior.
August 27th, 2009 at 11:00 am
DirtyBathWater Says:
August 27th, 2009 at 10:34 am
Andrew your crazy, it makes nooo sense how is that possible with the bleeding and the grand canyon effect? Your just blurting out crazy madness.. No way any women has sex 4 days after child birth
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Caesarean?
August 27th, 2009 at 11:03 am
But hey!! Dakota make of it what you will, you always do.
August 27th, 2009 at 11:06 am
Oh well I still rather go into a season with DHB,JLH,Murphy and a hurt Chaz than Lelie,Curry, and the abortion that was the 2008 Raiders wr core!
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I would take myself, Dakota, and Pete above Crabtree any day!!!!1
August 27th, 2009 at 11:07 am
I would take myself, Dakota, and Pete above Crabtree
any day!!!!1
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are you kidding???
going through pre-game exercises would put me on IR…
OR
maybe ER…
August 27th, 2009 at 11:07 am
What are all these football fans doing on a sex-after-kids blog?
August 27th, 2009 at 11:08 am
Dakota are you playing FF in the jerrykidz league?
August 27th, 2009 at 11:09 am
Yes Pete I was talking to rich but he did not answer me.
It does not sound like he is a Raider fan or he is one of those Raider fans who rags on the Raiders 24/7. If so he will find lots of company at this here chatroom.
If memory serves me correctly, last year we had a discharge and a mule fan in here last year who were more regular on here then they were on their team sites.
PriestJ<<<<<<<< are you BHP?
If so, then hello and I look forward to reading your insights this year here at Scarys ROR chatroom.
Scary use to get real mad when I said that and would delete it.
August 27th, 2009 at 11:09 am
Are there some things to be encouraged about?
Absolutely!
Fact of the matter is there are some HUGE questions marks that need to be addressed before you can talk about this team being a serious contender. Now if we want to play the “we can win the AFC West game”, then that’s different. Doesn’t mean shyt to me in terms of how good our teams is though because every other team in the division is awful, IMO. I really think 7 wins should be able to win this division, and that is a F’in joke.
Green and Carlisle on the right side don’t allow me to watch the games comfortably. I just KNOW they are going to get a penalty, or miss a block, or something, and at the most F’d up time. They are old, and need to be replaced.
Satele has been a huge disappointment. I was really looking forward to his play, but I’m just not seeing it so far. The guy is whiffing on everything, and on his back at other times. Of course not every play, but more often than need be. And to think he was running that I’ll be a pro bowler smack. Fugg!
Dline? Well, I tend to think it is more of an OLB problem, and Trevor Scott isssue, but whatever! The hole is a big as can be, and it needs to be plugged.
Fix those things, then we can talk.
August 27th, 2009 at 11:10 am
priesttj Says:
August 27th, 2009 at 8:49 am
Now that ZMiller has said it it has a lot more meaning, but I’ve been saying it all along. By the end of the year no one will wan to play this team.
By midseason this passing game will start to really take off. There is no way to take away DHB and yet stop that running game. It’s impossible!!
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Give me a break.
You still have a makeshift o line. How is that “scary’?
You still aren’t even sure who’s the receivers. how is that “scary’?
D line is still the worst in the league..D backs aren’t even set..Qb is very spotty, inconsistent, and little defensive awareness.
I notice you run the “by the end of the year” take.
A month ago wasn’t it “this year”???
In other words, you know that now the Raiders scare no one and you’re hoping for a miracle.
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We aren’t sure who are th receivers? at least we got receivers that are workin they ass off to make the team and improve the receiving corps from last year.If any body the niners dline is the worst in the league yall couldn’t even get any pressure on us at all.Are dbacks aren’t even set? Your a fukin moron dogg we got one of the best secondary in the league while yall got people like clements who gets burned all the time and bly who is even worse.Our qb is actually improving and you can see his stats in preseason meanwhile when yall got a first round fukin bust in alex smith and shaun hill is an average qb at least we din’t have 3 different starters at qb last year.even though the niners tore us up are run game is still way better. why don’t you just leave this blog everything you say is stupid. in case you haven’t noticed this says “inside the oakland raiders” not inside the niners and you annoy everybody on this blog with your stupid remarks and jealousy of this team that’s probably the only reason why you’re on this blog.
August 27th, 2009 at 11:10 am
I want to join a FF team this year.
We had two leagues in here and I won the championship in one of them.
August 27th, 2009 at 11:11 am
oh and thats directed at ricochet not priest
August 27th, 2009 at 11:14 am
How ironic is it that just as camp ends, tropical storm Danny is strengthening…
And Dakota, remember, you’d have to know a little about football to understand that.
August 27th, 2009 at 11:15 am
Florida Pete Says:
August 27th, 2009 at 11:07 am
I would take myself, Dakota, and Pete above Crabtree
any day!!!!1
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are you kidding???
going through pre-game exercises would put me on IR…
OR
maybe ER…
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AHHHH but the difference is at least you would be at pregame exercise with a contract so if you got hurt or died you and your fam would be takin care of….Pete you are still about two roster spots above Crabbs in my book ER or not!!!!!!!!
August 27th, 2009 at 11:16 am
TazRaider, the NFL is an elite profession. It doesn’t matter how hard the players are “working”, as you put it. All that counts is what they do on the field on Sundays.
August 27th, 2009 at 11:17 am
My two cents on the DTs….
Talk to me about the guys who are NOT getting doubled!
Warren and Kelly are getting doubled, so Trevor Scott, Alson, and Morrison should all be making plays. The guys who only have ONE guy to beat should be making plays. A DE who is being single blocked by a TE should be able to make an impact. It’s just not happening at LDE with Scott, MLB with Morrison, and SLB with Alston. And GOD forbig they are all on the field at the same time!
August 27th, 2009 at 11:18 am
# priesttj Says:
August 27th, 2009 at 11:00 am
“I still say Kiffin has the ability to be a brilliant coach. If he can just growup and cut out the distructive behavior.”
He and Al Davis both. And what’s most troubling for the Raiders is that Al Davis is still here.
August 27th, 2009 at 11:21 am
LET J RICH PLAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
That will help our D end problem…the start brown and alide capt over to outside we will be fine should I just call cable and tell himm…oh yea and play Bush and Macfadden more….I make the call
August 27th, 2009 at 11:21 am
Jhill, hmmmm that’s funny when Satele was on the Dolphins he was way better than Grove. I agree with Coop and Green with penalties especially in the redzone. That crap has to stop or else they have to sit……………period Our QB (offense)needs to gain confidence down there and that will never happen if the penalties continue.
August 27th, 2009 at 11:22 am
SNB666, no worries about the run defense. Hayez Dazed said we’re going to put up 22 ppg, so therefore opposing teams will have to throw the ball. Believe me, we won’t be forgetting his prediction.
August 27th, 2009 at 11:25 am
When Grove was here it seems everyone hated the guy. Now it seems me may miss him. He rarely made mistakes and was a very good technician but everybody wants another Barrett Robbins. Those guy’s are extremely difficult to find.
August 27th, 2009 at 11:26 am
Javon Walker still figuring it out, runs wrong route on timing pass to nowhere.
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And that just about sums up Javon Walker’s time in Oakland. Wrong route on a timing pass to nowhere.
August 27th, 2009 at 11:28 am
Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
August 27th, 2009 at 11:14 am
How ironic is it that just as camp ends, tropical storm Danny is strengthening…
And Dakota, remember, you’d have to know a little about football to understand that.
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You know it pumpkin.
August 27th, 2009 at 11:29 am
Richochet Says:
August 27th, 2009 at 10:22 am
Andrews Mom Says:
August 27th, 2009 at 9:05 am
So I bet a lot of the folks in here were mighty unhappy as draft day unfolded?
Any good war stories from that day?
I suspect history will have proven Al to be at the top of his game during the draft and all the naysayers will eat crow.
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Sorry, but history is already saying that Bey was a bad pick for #7, and that your round two pick makes this years draft the WORST of any team.
So far those day one reports are dead on, and Bey and Mitchell are both sub par.
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Pushmychit,
I think the General already gave you a history leason last night about your team last night, did he not? LOL, you 9er fans owe it all to Al Davis. NONE of those 5 trophies would be in your trophy room if it wasn’t for Al Davis. You should either learn about YOUR team before you bash another, or you should just pick a REAL one.
August 27th, 2009 at 11:30 am
vegas raider Says:
August 27th, 2009 at 11:26 am
Javon Walker still figuring it out, runs wrong route on timing pass to nowhere.
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And that just about sums up Javon Walker’s time in Oakland. Wrong route on a timing pass to nowhere.
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Tisk –tisk Vegas,
C’mon brother, it’s his first practice all of camp. He ran the wrong route. Happens all the time in everyone’s camp.
August 27th, 2009 at 11:31 am
Maddenraider !!!
i was talkin’ about you this morning !!!
Florida Pete Says:
August 27th, 2009 at 6:00 am
raidertbone Says:
August 27th, 2009 at 2:51 am
# The Real MaddenRaider Says:
August 27th, 2009 at 2:07 am
The draft was not a crap shoot. Crabtree is a sure thing and the only reason he’s holding out is because both he and the niners know that any team other than the Raiders looking for a receiver would have picked him at 6. Al Davis CHOSE to gamble, and his gambling has been less than stellar. The last solid bet he made was in 1998. He’s been crapping out ever since. I just hope Cable takes control of this football team and doesn’t cow tow to Davis. He already knocked out one of Davis’s guys, so let’s see.
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RMR:
I don’t know what else Cable needs to do to prove to you that he has taken control of this team. He is a warrior, he has stressed fundamentals all the way through, and he has galvanized this team with a fighting spirit. Does he need to come over to where you are and knock you out of your chair?
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clearly, you do not appreciate Maddenraider’s resilience…
there is no beating… there is no punishment… there is no amount of humiliation that will get him to shut-up…
the Raiders could go undefeated for the next two seasons and win both super bowls…
and Maddenraider will:
1) say that the raiders are still only 56-72 since 2002…
2) say that until Al Davis retires they will never win 3 super bowls in a row…
3) say that Al Davis deserves no credit because it was Tom Cable standing up to him that allowed anything good to happen…
so ??? give up on MR… he is not a Raider fan…
but he loves Kiffie !!!
August 27th, 2009 at 11:31 am
RAIDERS SUFFER PRE-GAME TRAGEDY
Alameda, Ca. (AP) – A promising newcomer to the Raiders receiving corps is in intensive care this afternoon after falling into a coma during pregame stretching at the Colisseum.
Wide receiver Florida Pete fell ill soon after taking the field, complaining about how heavy the shoulder pads and helmet felt in the oppressive eighty degree heat. After receiving an IV treatment, Florida Pete returned to the field only to collapse while trying to touch his toes.
Sebastian Janakowski administered CPR and Florida Pete briefly regained consciousness and smiled before being rushed off the field.
Coach Tom Cable hopes to have Florida Pete back soon, adding “our trainers tell me his system was overwhelmed by lactic acid…the first it has experienced since training camp in 1978.”
August 27th, 2009 at 11:31 am
Andrew’s Mom,
I believe there are still two open spots on one of the Yahoo FFL leagues. Live draft is this Sunday at 6pm PDT.
August 27th, 2009 at 11:33 am
LMFAO!
August 27th, 2009 at 11:33 am
AZ,
Hey I thought it was funny. “Wrong route on a timing pass to nowhere”, sounds very poetic, almost Shakesperian.
More importantly, we are about 6 hours away from hopefully watching Mike Vick’s leg snap in half. Is anyone really rooting for this guy?
August 27th, 2009 at 11:34 am
LMFAO !!!
very good…
August 27th, 2009 at 11:35 am
Kiffin may have the football smarts it takes to be an head coach but he is sorely lacking in all other skill departments, including being a man.
Personaly I think Lane has a vag between his legs and he has sex just days after giving birth to soft creatures like bunny rabbits and richochets.
August 27th, 2009 at 11:36 am
“Wrong route on a timing pass to nowhere”, sounds very poetic, almost Shakesperian.
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more like a country song…
where’s Hank!!!
August 27th, 2009 at 11:37 am
That is some funny schit bo.
August 27th, 2009 at 11:39 am
MR
The way I see it is no matter how many points we score when the 4th quarter comes and teams are driving for the winning touchdown or field goal and our 31st ranked run defense is tired it wont be fun to watch.
Again I say this: to get above .500 we will have to be better against the run. Or holding on to leads in the 4th quarter will be impossible.
August 27th, 2009 at 11:39 am
I can care less about Vick. I like the Eagles though so I’ll be rootin for ‘em fasho! Desaun Jackson is a local guy outta Cal. I always root for my Cali players if I can (meaning they don’t play for AFC west opposition).
August 27th, 2009 at 11:42 am
Jhill-it isn’t happening at RDE either.against the whiners Ellis was worked over pretty good too.it could be we are just playing straight up so we can see what these guys strengths and weaknesses are.we might see some different things this week since it is the 1st game we are scheming.but if you think about it,why show what we are really going to do before the opener.try and let Norville figure things out without giving him any clues.
August 27th, 2009 at 11:43 am
Desean is the man, I got excited when I say Hawkings in Parker out yesterday, I thought we broght the “Hawk”, Latrelle Hawkins, back to the bay!!
August 27th, 2009 at 11:45 am
Dakota Says:
August 27th, 2009 at 11:37 am
That is some funny schit bo.
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I would have posted a fake link but I watched you get a bad rep for that…
August 27th, 2009 at 11:45 am
I hear ya Lefty …
If I said LDE earlier, I meant RDE, Trevor Scott’s position. That play that went to Ellis’ side was again a bad play bu Alston. Ellis got blocked down by the inside WR. That was a good block. Meanwhile, roid boy Alston was lost, and gave up the edge. One on one with a WR, he should’ve made that play.
A side note to these plays … It should really help some of you understand how good Nnamdi is in run support. As good as he is, Routt is awful. FLAT OUT AWFUL!
August 27th, 2009 at 11:46 am
I’ll say it again……….the Colts won a sb with a 31 run-d……..points are everything, not stats.
August 27th, 2009 at 11:47 am
A link would’ve killed it ….
You had me with the heading.
August 27th, 2009 at 11:49 am
but when the 49ers scrubs beat us, well, we won the game while the starters were in by gosh!
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Sure, Dakota, take a shot at me for defending the Raiders. The only thing I said was was outta the 190 yds rushing how many points did their starters score? 3!
August 27th, 2009 at 11:49 am
Colts stopped the run in the playoffs that year once Bob Sanders came back.
August 27th, 2009 at 11:50 am
Yeah Vegas, things that cool rarely happen with our Raiders though…
August 27th, 2009 at 11:50 am
However, that Colts team stepped it up during the playoffs and played lights out run D – (I think they also got Sanders back for the playoffs.)
You beat me to it Vegas. (You slow down!)
August 27th, 2009 at 11:52 am
I know our D got shredded against the run, but if I were Niner faithful I would be extremely worried about their QB’s. They looked about as bad as our Run D did.
August 27th, 2009 at 11:55 am
Yeah we are talking about a Tony Dungy defense that rarely was ranked that low. Like Vegas said they fixed it.
We never were good (like Dungy’s defenses were)so your stats are skewed and do not apply in this situation.
Dungy’s defense was very very good for a long time then had a slump for a half a season while Bob Sanders was out, then Bob came back and restored the defense to what it once was.
To them that was a half a season slump for us its been a 6 YEAR slump!! Big difference there sports fan.
August 27th, 2009 at 11:56 am
Blackholepriest Says:
January 28th, 2008 at 2:39 pm
…I just spoke with John Herrera and for a fact Kiffin is conducting the interview with Lofton. But things still need to be worked out with respect to what his responsibilities are. Now this was while I was writing this post so take it for what it’s worth.
And I never give info like this but something needed to be done. Hopefully it doesn’t bite me in the rear.
Blackholepriest Says:
January 28th, 2008 at 2:43 pm
Guy’s I just put my ass on the line for you. And you better appreciate it because it wont happen again.
Quite frankly I’m pissed at myself for doing something that stupid.
Blackholepriest Says:
January 28th, 2008 at 3:01 pm
I’m signing off B4 I do something else. Because I do care that you guy’s are hardcore Raider fans and we get kicked constantly by the media and I just got tired of it. C ya’
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Hey, Priesttj, did this ever get you into trouble? If I recall, Mike Taylor refused to let you into training camp last season, was it because of this?
August 27th, 2009 at 11:57 am
One game that year, the Colts gave up somthing ridiculous like 400 yards rushing to the Jags. Amazing the turnaround they made within a month or two.
August 27th, 2009 at 12:00 pm
Out of respect for the sanctity of the Oakland Raiders organization, I would like to pass those BHP comments on to the Raiders…I think they should know that Herrera is leaking information to Priesttj, lol.
Anyone have an e-mail address I could use? lol
August 27th, 2009 at 12:00 pm
Funny how people come in here with their once in a life time stats and expect that to inspire us or give us hope.
“he has the most wins for a left handed pitcher in divisional road night games when his team bats over .280 this year”
Big deal!
August 27th, 2009 at 12:04 pm
Maybe we will get to see DHB, first WR taken, go against Jenkins of NO, who was the first DB taken.
August 27th, 2009 at 12:04 pm
“get some more speed at corner,” Cable said.
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LOL. can CB Hawkins make the team based on speed alone ???
don’t we have enough “Raider speed” in the secondary or did the signing of Rashad Baker bring the unit down a peg?
on a positive note –
I’m glad we’re getting Ike & Nessy back for the Saints game. Ike is a monster on ST and Shaughnessy is a base end that could help our run defense out
August 27th, 2009 at 12:07 pm
Maybe we will get to see DHB, first WR taken, go against Jenkins of NO, who was the first DB taken.
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you know who is gonna win that battle!
Jenkins doesn’t have “Raider speed” or he’d be starting opposite Nnamdi right now. After his 40 time Kiper & McShay called him a safety in the NFL.
Heyward-Bey will be in the endzone aka “the BEY area” at least once on Saturday
DHB will wipe his pelosi with that fool!
August 27th, 2009 at 12:07 pm
rmr,
i know that the nfl is elite profession and everybody knows that it only matters on sundays but a good work ethic can make you better, determined, and to gain respect
August 27th, 2009 at 12:08 pm
RRS, you tracking Hurricane Danny? The Stormin Mormon is Formin!
Garcia could very well be swept out to sea.
August 27th, 2009 at 12:09 pm
Richochet says DHB is already a bust without playing a single NFL game, while his boyfriend/other half of his brain MR Pansy says Crabtree is ALREADY proven. Why these 2 inquisitive minds aren’t working in the NFL is beyond me.
August 27th, 2009 at 12:12 pm
RR,
It would be great to see DHB parlay his apparently exceptional practices this week with a great half of football (say 4 rec 63 yards and a TD).
August 27th, 2009 at 12:13 pm
Florida Pete Says:
August 27th, 2009 at 10:58 am
Andrews Mom Says:
August 27th, 2009 at 10:25 am
Rich——– Who is your favorite team?
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are you takling to richochet??? he prefers rack-o-schit…
rack-o-schit’s favorite team of all time are the Bay Street Bungholers…
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Petey?
Are you still crying about me exposing you as being basically a clueless clod?
Time heals all wounds.
And considering you’re already slow to begin with, there’s a real good chance that you’ll forget the welts sooner than most.
And here you thought being slow would be a liability?
August 27th, 2009 at 12:13 pm
I have not heard the name Michael Bush in here.
How has he looked this year?
August 27th, 2009 at 12:14 pm
BSJ: Danny Southwick is a franchise quarterback
JaMarcus Russell was extremely accurate against the scout team. That means he should be able to shred any CB in the AFC West not named Champ Bailey
with JaWalrus on the rise, D-Smooth’s chances are not getting any better.
Russell/Frye/Southwick for 2009!
get him in the fold Al!
quit trying to shelf a 4th QB calling him “an intern” like Philly did…
August 27th, 2009 at 12:16 pm
DHB
Needs to translate his catches in games. We cant expect for him to be a godsend year 1. He will come along, one thing Al knows how to do is draft receivers.
August 27th, 2009 at 12:16 pm
Andrews Mom Says:
August 27th, 2009 at 10:25 am
Rich——– Who is your favorite team?
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In other words, instead of addressing the comments about the Raiders, you would just as soon state “well, your qb is also so and so’??
Why would you assume I’m not a Raider fan?
I’m simply your voice of reason.
I see no reason to coat things peachy when in fact it stinks.
I see no reason to give Al a pass instead of calling him to task for his ridiculous decisions.
I see no reason to coddle Russell, as if he’s a child, when his dedication is in question, and his effort is minimal.
Aren’t you glad you asked?
August 27th, 2009 at 12:17 pm
DOUBLE R!!!!!!!1
YES!! I cant wait to see Nessy in there he could help alot he and J Rich I believe will sovle some DE issues…
August 27th, 2009 at 12:18 pm
Vegas,it wold be great if JR threw the ball to him so we could all see how he looks.
August 27th, 2009 at 12:19 pm
I hope double O is recovering nicely. I want to see our backfield spend monday night demorilizing Norm and his discharge.
290 yards rushing in a 31 to 13 blowout
Best year ever!!!
August 27th, 2009 at 12:19 pm
Florida Pete Says:
August 27th, 2009 at 10:52 am
Richochet Says:
August 27th, 2009 at 10:09 am
Cable is a slob. Players know that. Cable hasn’t done squat, himself, on the field. Players know that. Cable is a hypocrite when he stresses “control”, AND PLAYERS KNOW THAT. Cable isn’t in charge, Al is, AND EVERYONE KNOWS THAT.
Just the way it is.
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and you, sir… are a moron…
AND EVERYONE KNOWS THAT !!!
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See what I mean?
No thought process for many of you.
It’s like juvenile hangout in here.
Now, everything I stated about Cable is correct.
You know that.
So intead of coming up with something that makes sense (no guarantee that is possible with you) you resort to silly little copout juvenile replies.
Maybe I shouldn’t assume you’re capable of anything different?
August 27th, 2009 at 12:20 pm
SIP SIIP YUM YUM!!!!!
JAVON WALKER COMBACK PLAYER OF THE YEAR!
GALLERY TO THE PROBOWL!
53 MEN AND COUTLESS FANS COMMITTED TO ONE PURPOSE!
PLAYOFFBOUND!
August 27th, 2009 at 12:20 pm
Wheeew, that was a good one!
August 27th, 2009 at 12:21 pm
ED: I don’t know about “a godsend” , but DHB can and should make an impact in his rookie season – especially since he’s a starter
August 27th, 2009 at 12:21 pm
News Services reports that a spokeperson for the Napa police department told ESPN.com that coach Cable would be interviewed as part of an investigation about an alleged altercation that ended with assistant Randy Hanson in the hospital.
I hope I’m wrong but I’m willing to bet that the Commissioner is going to want a copy of that investigative report and when all things are done and said: Cable going to get suspended for 4 to 6 games and we’ll have Hackett or Marshall as our acting Head Coach during that period. I can’t imagine the NFL Commissioner
allowing “alleged violence, with a possible broken jaw, by a head coach on an assistant coach.” Not in a league that’s so concerned with image and respectability and appropriate punishments for the “perks” involved.
August 27th, 2009 at 12:23 pm
Concerns…
TScott – I have seen him pushed around in the first two games big time. Can he handle the edge? Is he a quality starter? JRich seems to playing well in preseason (granted against backups) but might he be the better option? Too bad Shaugnessy has been nicked up.
LBS – Always getting blocked and never shooting the gaps. I saw Brown get knocked out of the hole several time against the Niners…is he really an up grade from Mo? We need the best three tacklers on the field. They really are the key to the run failures (along with the DE’s) in my mind.
C – So far I have not seen an upgrade from Grove to Satele. Yes its been a short time and he is in a new system, but we can’t afford a drop off in any position on the oline. Green concerns me as always, but it appears no other option with Barnes down.
WR – Only becasue Chaz is hurt. Otherwise I think this position is set for the future, if DHB continues to progress. JWalk/Murphy need to step in and become that dependable, intermediate target JRuss can depend on now that Chaz is out.
Cable – Like how he works with Al(a must) and how he has ran training camp, but I’m still worried about his game day management. Can he make the proper play calls while managing the game like an efficient head coach? Is he going to lose games because of some bad decisions like he did last year? Hopefully he has learned form the mistakes…becasue he has a golden opportunity in front of him.
One Nation Baby…
August 27th, 2009 at 12:28 pm
RR——–I was wondering who Southwick was and if he a good cantidate for my next nickname. Is he even on the team?
Rich——– I have not been here for a few and was actually curious. I quickly realized why my question should never have been asked when I caught the gist of how other posters respond to you.
You will have to pardon my weak attempt at civility.
Scarys room does not permit certain things and that is one of them.
By the way, who is your favorite team?
August 27th, 2009 at 12:29 pm
AZ Raider Says:
August 27th, 2009 at 11:29 am
Richochet Says:
August 27th, 2009 at 10:22 am
Andrews Mom Says:
August 27th, 2009 at 9:05 am
So I bet a lot of the folks in here were mighty unhappy as draft day unfolded?
Any good war stories from that day?
I suspect history will have proven Al to be at the top of his game during the draft and all the naysayers will eat crow.
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Sorry, but history is already saying that Bey was a bad pick for #7, and that your round two pick makes this years draft the WORST of any team.
So far those day one reports are dead on, and Bey and Mitchell are both sub par.
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Pushmychit,
I think the General already gave you a history leason last night about your team last night, did he not? LOL, you 9er fans owe it all to Al Davis. NONE of those 5 trophies would be in your trophy room if it wasn’t for Al Davis. You should either learn about YOUR team before you bash another, or you should just pick a REAL one.
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Like I said..like taking candy from a baby.
You know what? I think I’ll school both YOU and Brien.
I notice you have NOTHING regarding Bey and Mitchell, lol
Wonder why?
Because their is nothing YOU CAN SAY except that weak “at least he’s in camp” whine.
Just means he’s there, every day, taking the money, and still doing squat.
August 27th, 2009 at 12:33 pm
OK, raise your hands if you are shocked that Michael Crabtree is holding out.
You’re right. It figured. The one player who turned off more than half the league during his NFL Combine visits — diva was the buzzword — dropped from his lofty perch as definitely a top-five player, athletically, to not even being the first wide receiver taken in last April’s draft. And, typical of his brashness, Crabtree now wants as much or more money than the Raiders paid Darrius Heyward-Bey, the receiver taken three spots ahead of him by Raiders owner Al Davis.
good story!!!!
August 27th, 2009 at 12:34 pm
be back later. work to be done!
August 27th, 2009 at 12:37 pm
Bitchochet is at it again? Kid just enjoys an ass whipping. You remind me of a woman that is the victim of domestic violence. The door is open to leave but for some reason you cant get the strength to do it
August 27th, 2009 at 12:37 pm
You’ve toned you act way down, LOL!
What happened?
No deragatory name calling?
Even calling others juvenile for doing what you used to do?
This site has it’s epic moments. I swear people are posting under other peoples names. Or is it really jeckly and hyde shyt going on?
August 27th, 2009 at 12:38 pm
Crabtree holding out is no shock, but what about Andre Smith? Everyone saw that coming from a mile away, except the Bengals. I called it during the draft, that Tits Smith would go in a pro-longed holdout and eventually be out of the league in 3-4 years. There is always one in the top-10 in the draft every year that is out of the league in less than 5 years, he seems like the obvious choice.
August 27th, 2009 at 12:39 pm
Andrew’s Mom, where you been for so long? The MBush news has been good, but the Fargas news is disappointing – he’s still considered a “starter”.
More importantly, Al found an unheralded phenom QB out of Occidental College named Danny Southwick to push JaOctopus to his potential. This kid is on a mission from God and is already known in Napa as Football Jesus. Southwick is currently Hackett’s “intern” sidekick, but don’t you believe it!
Al wants to win before he moves the team to Reno (far east bay), so Danny could be in line for a battlefield promotion any day now.
August 27th, 2009 at 12:41 pm
Schooled? You have done zero schooling.
The fact that DHB is out there working with his team means he gets better each and every day. Has Crabtree improved on anything that will help him nithe NFL thus far? The season hasn’t even started and you want to label the guy a bust. It isn’t like you are making a rational claim based on watching him through a full regular season game.
As for Mitchell yep he has been injured, but guess what he still been with his teammates. Crabtree cant say that and its embarrassing. He is well on his way to losing millions and the Niners have a wasted pick instead of a player that could help their team improve.
August 27th, 2009 at 12:43 pm
AZ?? Feel free to give Brien a hand on this.
)
(yes, we both know you won’t/can’t but still fun watching ya squirm
Brien the General Says:
August 26th, 2009 at 6:56 pm
And here goes the killer. Everyone this is how you beat the 49er faithful down just watch……………….
From 1946 to 1980 SF was a joke.In the late 1970s the NFL was heavily concerned about the failing franchise in SF. The NFL powers paid AL DAVIS to find a suitable owner who would brings a winning franchise to the city. Not only did Al get the Debartilos in the door he suggested their coach.
Wait wait wait wait there. You mean to tell me Al Davis is responsible for the 49ers being a successful franchise that they were in 80s and 90s? Without al Davis the 49ers are a tragic joke that never wins the big one(like the Sf Giants)?
49er fans need to know Al is your daddy and he made you
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Richochet: First off, you can’t even discuss the Raiders. How do you expect to discuss the Niners?
Now, for fun, I’ll torch your inept ass on this as well.
Pay attention, foolish boy.
Al did NOT get the DeBartelo’s in with the league, moron.
First off Valley, a FORMER partner of Al Davis, who Al now hated, tried to buy the 49ers from the Morobitos widows, who both held the team since their husbands died and ran it for over a decade.
Al went and basically begged them to not sell to Valley, because he didn’t want him that close. Also thought they were selling too low, which devalued the Raiders. At one point the Moribitos widows asked Al if they could give them advice on selling, of which they would pay him a fee.
In the mean time, the Debartelo’s had already been in the market, looking for a team. JOE THOMAS is the one who informed Debartelo Sr. about SF.
Before they even considered buying SF, Debartelo told Thomas he would buy ONLY if Thomas signed on as GM, even before the deal was even considered. Then it was brought to SF, where Al advised the widows on the correct steps.
Al NEVER contacted the Debartelo’s, fool.
Al NEVER was paid by the NFL powers, you moron.
The NFL NEVER got involved on any of it.
And Al did NOT suggest Bill Walsh, cotton ball.
Pay attention for schooling, period 2.
Walsh worked for Brown. In Cinc. Debartelo’s are from Ohio. They knew all about Walsh. Walsh THOUGHT he was going to take over for Brown when he stepped down. Brown and Walsh butted heads on many ways to run a team while Walsh was an asst. with Brown, and Brown wasn’t comfortable with Walsh’s differing views from his old school ways.
Brown informed Walsh he was going to be promoted, but expected Walsh to stay on as an asst, and that he wouldn’t release him from his contract. Walsh said “my contract is up next week, and I’m gone. Brown stated he would do everything he could to blackball Walsh, even stating ‘You’ll never be a HC in this league.”
Debartelo Sr. knew about Brown’s comments, and didn’t want Walsh. Eddie Jr. met with Walsh anyway, and after their first meeting Eddie Jr. knew he wanted Walsh. Walsh was still coaching Stanford at the time.
Eddie Jr. asked a lot of people what they thought of Walsh, including Al Davis.
All Al did was verify to Eddie that he made a good hire in Walsh, that he liked him when Walsh was with the Raiders for one year.
Lots of people knew Eddie Jr. had decided on Walsh since their first meeting, which was long before he chatted with Al.
BTW..moron..that one year Walsh had with the Raiders? Was, and I quote Walsh: “The worst year I ever spent in football, anywhere. I learned from the Raiders on how NOT to run a team.”
THAT’S A QUOTE FROM WALSH..
Like I said, Brien, stick to stupid little comments. Less chance of getting reamed that way. You’ve JUST BEEN SCHOOLED..AGAIN…STILL!!
And Az??? Get back to saying nothing because I GUARANTEE YOU you won’t have a single thing to say regarding this either. You’re defenseless, and that’s a well known fact.
Aren’t you glad you asked? lol…I AM!!!
August 27th, 2009 at 12:43 pm
LOL, B
I was thinking porn star. I mean who else takes public facials with no shame?
August 27th, 2009 at 12:45 pm
Well Gil Brandt has been talking to Al Davis and it is believed that Michael Bush will have a huge year for Oakland. Gotta mean something positive hearing that because you know DMAC will get his touches. God please say it aint so. The ultimate dream of two dynamic backs splitting the reps! Al tried this once before with Bo/Marcus.
August 27th, 2009 at 12:48 pm
ien the General Says:
August 27th, 2009 at 12:41 pm
Schooled? You have done zero schooling.
Richochet: Above schooling says you shouldn’t play outside after dark.
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Brien the Girl Scout says: The fact that DHB is out there working with his team means he gets better each and every day. Has Crabtree improved on anything that will help him nithe NFL thus far? The season hasn’t even started and you want to label the guy a bust. It isn’t like you are making a rational claim based on watching him through a full regular season game.
Richochet: Sorry peanut, but go google Bey. Comments everywhere that a #7 pick SHOULDN’T HAVE TO LEARN HOW TO CATCH A FOOTBALL..so yeah, lots of comments about Al’s silly drafting, both round one AND round two.
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Brien the Girl Scout: As for Mitchell yep he has been injured, but guess what he still been with his teammates. Crabtree cant say that and its embarrassing. He is well on his way to losing millions and the Niners have a wasted pick instead of a player that could help their team improve.
Richochet: “at least he’s with his team”?? Have you no idea how dumb that sounds? Of COURSE he’s with his team. He wasn’t even on anyone’s charts, and Al makes him a second round pick. The guy was in total shock, and GLADLY TOOK WHATEVER MONEY WAS PRESENTED..just like Bey did.
BTW..at this moment? There are approx: 30 players in EVERY camp who won’t even make the teams rosters.
Showing up doesn’t mean it’s a good choice, fool.
August 27th, 2009 at 12:49 pm
Pushmychit~
Bey and Mitchell? WTF are you talking about? When did we start talking about Bey and Mitchell, let alone ask your opinion of anything. No one engages you bro. You jump into other peoples discussions with knocks on the Raiders. It’s obvious your team suks so bad you have to jump on the “Raider Bashing Bandwagon”. It’s old just like your trolling game in here, but the Raider nation welcomes the hate as we always have. It’s the Raider way. We stand behind our team with Pride, win or lose, unlike you, who are too scared to share with us who your team is. Doesn’t matter, there’s only one team on the planet that has fans like you… Your cover in blown.
August 27th, 2009 at 12:50 pm
Uh, oh …
That didn’t take long. back to the juvenile name calling.
Be careful, Jerry might ban you!
August 27th, 2009 at 12:50 pm
Anyone else watching Hard Knocks?
CHILD PLEASE!!!!!
August 27th, 2009 at 12:51 pm
Vegas, I have to disagree with you about the A. Smith holdout…I think it is pretty fair that he and his agent are requesting to be paid more than the pick that was selected after him (DHB).
They just have the misfortune of having to deal with the Bungholes who are dumb and cheap…if A. Smith had been drafted by Oakland he would have been in camp from day one like DHB.
August 27th, 2009 at 12:53 pm
Az?? THAT’S YOUR REPLY?
Just shut up dude…comments above are about Al’s drafting abilities.
You abuse the right to be stupid
You just toss out the comments about Davis/Walsh/49ers?
and YOU GOT SCHOOLED, LITTLE BOY.
And now?
NOTHING..Like I GUARANTEED. Stay in the shadows, fool.
As only you can.
August 27th, 2009 at 12:55 pm
I root for the Raiders through thick and thin, 24/7, 365. I get happiness and joy as well as sadness and anger. Its like life in that respect and I would not have it any other way. Its like riding an emotional rollar coaster. Spiritual enlightment and the meaning of life all rolled into one.I love it
I neither worry, nor fret over, nor even care about last years record. That is the past and I have no control over that just as I have no control over how the team is ran, who makes draft picks, who decides how much to pay whom, or who to play.
I root for Al because he is THE RAIDER, he always has been and I will go down with the ship standing at his side, be he senile or be he sane.
I use to love sticking it to all the haters in bars and at work and relatives who all hate the Raiders. That was one of the best parts about being a Raider fan is everyone loved us or hated us and most hated us.
We are the rebels of the NFL and its even better now that all the talking heads on the one eyed hypnotist are singing the demise of Al and his team. It will feel that much better when Al proves them wrong again.
Well this is the year that we start sticking it to everyone and anyone again. Oh boy oh boy, its gonna feel great.
I love underdogs and I love rebels and I love pirates.
Best year ever!!!
August 27th, 2009 at 12:56 pm
Sorry, but history is already saying that Bey was a bad pick for #7, and that your round two pick makes this years draft the WORST of any team.
So far those day one reports are dead on, and Bey and Mitchell are both sub par.
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Hey ball boy,
DHB follows up big Wednesday with catch on a bullet going over his head in end zone.
And yet another TD for DHB in 7 on 7 vs scout team. If only it was always this easy, at least it builds confidence.
Though Heyward-Bey dropped one pass, he also made a highlight reel catch on a pass thrown by Charlie Frye. He remains on track to be one of the Raiders’ starting receivers when they open the season on September 14 against the Chargers.
– Rookie Darrius Heyward-Bey ran right as he reached back to his left, all the while starting to fall down on a pass route over the middle.
This is the exact sort of play that spelled incomplete pass all of training camp, particularly for a wide receiver who struggled enough to make the easy catches, never mind the spectacular.
Not this time. Heyward-Bey came down with a tumbling catch in traffic, much to the delight of his teammates and coaches during practice Wednesday in Napa.
That’s why the Raiders drafted him with the No. 7 overall pick of April’s draft, when most everyone thought they were nuts. Only now is Heyward-Bey starting to make common and difficult catches alike while limiting his daily drops to one, maybe two a day.
He is making steady improvement!!!!
DHB double tips INT to Napo Harris, ( He is even on the field to make mistakes…you know the things real men make in life in order to become the fathers sons brothers widereceiver that some of are today you dnt learn from your mistakes sitting around (40-whining..) about millions of dollars when you will be paid more than your whole family has ever made in there excistance….Further more DHB is has more couth class and poise to be one of the best players in the draft last year and your a fool or blind to belive otherwise.
And for Mike Mitchell aka (The M Word)
If being injured your rookie season and not being able to play much makes you a bust then go talk to guys like Mike Bush and tell them the same thing Mike has had a ligring injury that has prevented him from getting on the field any person with common sense would tell you that yuo cant fail unless you try at something he has yet been able to try….he one day will be healthy and destory some WR’s and RB’s…. Should we have picked brace yes!!! Did we no is it Mikes fault no Give the damn kid a chance….you remaind me of the rich little neighbor kid who would always “need” to be right..and if he wasnt he would make up a lie to tell or run and tell his momma that some one had made him cry….man im embarrassed for you!!1
August 27th, 2009 at 12:56 pm
Brien the General Says:
August 27th, 2009 at 12:45 pm
Well Gil Brandt has been talking to Al Davis and it is believed that Michael Bush will have a huge year for Oakland. Gotta mean something positive hearing that because you know DMAC will get his touches. God please say it aint so. The ultimate dream of two dynamic backs splitting the reps! Al tried this once before with Bo/Marcus.
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Hi Brien – Are you saying that the Bo Jackson/Marcus Alen combo never worked or it did work?
August 27th, 2009 at 12:57 pm
Richochet Says:
August 27th, 2009 at 12:43 pm
…Then it was brought to SF, where Al advised the widows on the correct steps…
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And that’s the kicker… And it’s also the reason you are in here hating the Raiders. Pathetic.
August 27th, 2009 at 12:58 pm
Richochet Says:
August 26th, 2009 at 6:36 pm
Brien the General Says:
August 26th, 2009 at 6:22 pm
DHB is better than any damn WR the 49ers have outside of Isaac Bruce who is old as hell
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Hell, our 6th rd pick, Josh Morgan alone makes Bey look like a cripple.
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Raider Men- please stop asking what team RIDOWINER is a fan of, the comment above seals the story.
Please pass this comment along to others and we can all hope he squirms back to his Craptree dreams of hand holding his baby of doom.
August 27th, 2009 at 1:00 pm
Dakota
Do you think Crabtree would have accepted DHB’s Deal? I don”t think so, I think he would have been an issue anyway. He has ME written all over him.
August 27th, 2009 at 1:03 pm
Bo thanks for the news. I am already liking Southwick. Time to learn more.
I had to move and do enough work on the compound to make it somewhat liveable so I canceled the internet and devoted that goof off time to more benificial matters.
But I missed you and a whole bunch of others here even those who I dont see eye to eye with. I really missed learning all about everything Raiders.
I got ESPN on the tube but they rarely said anything about us unless it was a snide remark from ex mules like jackarse jackson and scathead slereth
August 27th, 2009 at 1:03 pm
Ridowhiner
You are the man,well sort of. You love feeling so great that you got over on somebody in this blog.
You must be a small man and have the brain only of a two year old.
I’m still waiting for you to address Jhill questions, he cleans your little manhood every time, you have no answer for Jhill.
Step up be a man, oops whiner fan and answer those tough questions. I will provide comic relief when you answer and will not laugh to hard.
August 27th, 2009 at 1:04 pm
El Dirty….Crabtree is a different story…A. Smith just wants what is fair and logical…Crabtree is nutz and had the Raiders drafted him at 7, he would have wanted top five money…and had he been drafted at 5, he would have wanted top 3 money and so on and so forth.
I REALLY hope he goes back into the draft, and when he is drafted #25 next year, I can’t wait to see his face!
August 27th, 2009 at 1:05 pm
Do you guys hear the lies of Bitchochet? First off the 49ers were having trouble as a franchise for years. They didn’t have a winning product at all and those old widows sure weren’t going to turn it into one. The NFL period votes on who gets to own teams. Certain owners got stroke to alter that vote or what have you. Al Davis in the late 70s had much stroke and wasn’t as crazy as he is now. You really think NFL powers wont want to have a guy who already knows what it takes to be successful in the Bay Area’s advice on the matter? Come on the NFL has much mob ties. Dont you know any damn thing? Al and Eddie Sr had much mob ties. Its bigger than just the game you fool. Dont you know anything?
August 27th, 2009 at 1:05 pm
Oak,
Sounds like our first round pick is in camp making strides no? That pick gets better every day.
“And with the 7th pick, of the 2009 NFL draft, the Oakland Raiders select, Wide reciever out of Maryland, Darrius Heyward-Bey”
As the boos erupt in Canton, and the “analysts” start their bashing, poor Michael Crabtrees’ lip quivers and his eyes well up like he’s going to cry. I’ll never forget the sight of that. Then when Singletary punked him in camp he cried again. There is something wrong with this guy and Al saw it… So did 8 other teams.
Sorry Richochet but your team fukt up…
August 27th, 2009 at 1:07 pm
Dakota
Agreed, As far as Smith is concerned, He has had issues in some way or another since before the draft. He may be a great player but at what cost besides money? I’m just glad I never have to see him run with is shirt off again.
August 27th, 2009 at 1:08 pm
Bitchochet, Al didn’t want his associate because he wasn’t gonna go the extra mile like Eddie D would. The guy is connected to some real mobsters and will do what has to be done to be a championship franchise. Remember the penguins in the NHL won titles under Eddie D’s ownership. Al knew who to find. Al has never hated the 49er franchise. It is a rivalry amongst the followers but not the front offices. Al was more than glad to help since the widow couldnt find any real suitors.
As for Bill Walsh, what? You gotta be kidding me. Your whole comment goes down the tube on that note when you pull up a bogus quote that contradicts how Bill Walsh admire OAl Davis up til his death. Just stop right now
August 27th, 2009 at 1:10 pm
AZ Raider Says:
August 27th, 2009 at 12:57 pm
Richochet Says:
August 27th, 2009 at 12:43 pm
…Then it was brought to SF, where Al advised the widows on the correct steps…
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And that’s the kicker… And it’s also the reason you are in here hating the Raiders. Pathetic.
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LMFAO..Yep, you GOT SCHOOLED.
what’s the matter?
I tell you what’s the matter.
You read my comment on what REALLY happened, gulped, and knew there wasn’t a single thing you could say that would save face. Yeah, mini-mouth, be careful what you ask for next time.
And the dumbest comment? “And that’s the kicker”?
Geez..another “can’t follow the dots” poster.
Debartelo ALREADY DECIDED TO BUY THE 49ERS.
The WIDOWS WERE SURE ABOUT THE TECHNICAL SIDE OF IT.
For that matter, AL DAVIS ALMOST PREVENTED THE SALE.
What? You didn’t know that?
Yeah,..at the last minute, after the sale price of 17 million had been decided on, where Debartelo Sr flew to SF to sign the papers, Al, hoping to boost the value of the Raiders, suggested the widows change the price to 17.5 million.
Debartelo Sr. walked out, realizing Davis was a slimeball, and state ‘I don’t do business like that.’
Only after Eddie Jr. showed polls about the value of the league did Sr. change his mind, and sign.
Now, just state ‘Oh, ok. I didn’t know that. Now I do, and I apologize for discussing things I know nothing about.”
August 27th, 2009 at 1:13 pm
Now, just state ‘Oh, ok. I didn’t know that. Now I do, and I apologize for discussing things I know nothing about.”
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That’s what I think of you when you comment in this blog.
August 27th, 2009 at 1:15 pm
Rich<<<<<<<< another question.
I want love to learn as much about the Raiders as you know about the 49ers but I dont know where to start. Hopefully you can lead me in the right direction.
How long have you been a niner fan and did you go to school to learn that stuff or did you work for the team?
August 27th, 2009 at 1:17 pm
hey Richochet,
the Raiders cut CB’s Jason Horton & Ricky Manning Jr. this week
think the 49ers would be interested? they obviously don’t have game to back up thier mouths …
Louis Murphy got a score in an actual game. Clements & Bly sure were impressive in practice though. woowee!
They got abused by our backup WR’s on Saturday though
August 27th, 2009 at 1:18 pm
ien the General Says:
August 27th, 2009 at 1:08 pm
Bitchochet, Al didn’t want his associate because he wasn’t gonna go the extra mile like Eddie D would. The guy is connected to some real mobsters and will do what has to be done to be a championship franchise. Remember the penguins in the NHL won titles under Eddie D’s ownership. Al knew who to find. Al has never hated the 49er franchise. It is a rivalry amongst the followers but not the front offices. Al was more than glad to help since the widow couldnt find any real suitors.
As for Bill Walsh, what? You gotta be kidding me. Your whole comment goes down the tube on that note when you pull up a bogus quote that contradicts how Bill Walsh admire OAl Davis up til his death. Just stop right now
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Considering the quote is IN BILL WALSH’S BOOK maybe you should think before you post.
And stop with the “widows couldn’t find any suitors”…
I already detailed it. Quit acting “confused”
JOE THOMAS BROUGHT THE IDEA OF THE 49ERS TO THE DEBARTELO’S.
Debartelo’s signed JOE THOMAS AS A GM BEFORE THEY EVEN CAME TO DISCUSS THE 49ERS.
Al Davis was never involved in them deciding, or in them being aware of the 49ers.
Al was paid a fee, from the widows, because they didn’t understand the nuances of selling the team, that’s all.
Like I said, Al’s greedy side almost blew the deal.
August 27th, 2009 at 1:22 pm
Hell, our 6th rd pick, Josh Morgan alone makes Bey look like a cripple.
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LOL…..and no one to throw the ball….LOL its like a two legged regular kid in the special olympics……
My prediction Morgan will have a better NFL career than Crabby…WRITE it down…Further more you better hope the Raiders release Garcia so you guys will have a real QB on your roster……you’ll be fine lil buddy now run along your subawy shift is starting!!!
August 27th, 2009 at 1:22 pm
I already detailed it. Quit acting “confused”
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Ridowhiner another one of your quotes that says and calls out your name.
August 27th, 2009 at 1:23 pm
Pablo and John were playing Football at Golden Gate Park in San Fran. Suddenly a vicious Big Ass pit bull came up and attacked Pablo. Instead of panicking and running away, John sneaked up behind the vicious dog, stuck a huge stick in the dog’s collar, and snapped the dog’s neck.
A reporter from San Francisco heard about the story and had asked John if he could write about him in the Chronicle so Tyrone agreed. The reporter pulled out his notepad and started writing, “49er fan from San Francisco saves friend from certain death in vicious dog attack.”
John said, “I’m not a 49er fan.”
So the reporter started writing again. “Giants fan from San Francisco saves friend from certain death in vicious dog attack.”
John said, “I’m not a Giants fan either.”
The reporter finally asked, “What the hell kind of fan are you then?”
John with great pride stood up and said, “I’m a F*cking Die Hard Oakland Raider fan fool.”
The reporter frowned and the next day the Chronicle reads: “Little gangster from Oakland kills family pet.”
August 27th, 2009 at 1:23 pm
Raider Dell Says:
August 27th, 2009 at 1:13 pm
Now, just state ‘Oh, ok. I didn’t know that. Now I do, and I apologize for discussing things I know nothing about.”
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That’s what I think of you when you comment in this blog.
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Wow.
“It’s money”???
Cool.
thanks.
August 27th, 2009 at 1:25 pm
#316 Dakota
I would love to see that as well.
Instead of proving everyone wrong by working hard he would probaly just mail it in and be a tumor in the locker room as well.
I hope he goes to the squaws,mules or discharge.
August 27th, 2009 at 1:26 pm
Ooops, not Tyrone…JOHN…lol, look what happens when you try to be PC!
August 27th, 2009 at 1:27 pm
It’s kinda funny how 9er fans come in here talking trash on draft picks when their “franchise QB” couldnt beat out “The Duck” Shaun Hill for a starting spot after all these years, yet you still keep paying his bust ass to sit the bench. Then your most recent 1st round pick can’t get signed. Who organization is in the toilet here?
August 27th, 2009 at 1:27 pm
Wow.
“It’s money”???
Cool.
thanks.
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Michael Craptree quote in January at his local hang out, BIG LOSER’S liquor store.
August 27th, 2009 at 1:29 pm
Dakota,
Funny asss shyt! LMFAO!
August 27th, 2009 at 1:30 pm
328
HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAlolAHAHAHHAHAAHLOLHAHAHAHAHAHA
August 27th, 2009 at 1:30 pm
HA… Good job Nation.
I knew we’d get his team out in the open. He won’t be round here much anymore with the beatings he’s getting in here now that he is exposed.
A 9er fan talking shyt on the state of the Raiders is like Having OJ Simpson as Kolbe Bryants defense attorney.
August 27th, 2009 at 1:32 pm
Bitchochet you outta read a book by Dan Moldea. It’s all about how organized crime and how it connects to pro football. I dont know how you arent aware of this. It was simple Al Davis knows the region and was at the time seen a genius to the football world. Eddie D was always known to have mob ties and that helped him get his other sports teams. In the early 70s didnt Debartilo own the Penguins? Al back then knew how to pick a solid winner and Eddie D was perfect because he will go that extra mile to get success. You think the NFL heads didnt go to Al to find a suitable person for that operation since SF was a failing mission? Be serious. and you phuckin idiot Al Davis suggested Joe Thomas
As for Bill Walsh, he didnt come until 1979 after coaching at Standford for two seasons you knucklehead! They fired 3 coaches in between the time Eddie D bought the team and the hiring of Bill Walsh. Learn your facts man!!!
Eddie D heard about Paul Brown’s comments huh? You’re an idiot Al again put Eddie D on notice on who to hire after the 49ers needed a new coach. You know owners talk amongst each other all the time and pro sports is a buddy system. Be serious. Also Walsh said Al taught him everything he knew
Sidenote: That bs word press thing is saving you from another whipping. Just you wait boy
August 27th, 2009 at 1:34 pm
AZ, who the hell is Kolbe? You better not mean Kobe…that chick voluntarily bent over for him…and then went for the money.
August 27th, 2009 at 1:34 pm
AZ Raider Says:
August 27th, 2009 at 1:27 pm
It’s kinda funny how 9er fans come in here talking trash on draft picks when their “franchise QB” couldnt beat out “The Duck” Shaun Hill for a starting spot after all these years,
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Az- literally quite sad actually. This guy Alex Smith will be a bigger bust than Ryan Leaf.
Next year on the NFL Network the 10 biggest busts at QB will feature that whiner QB Alex Smith.
August 27th, 2009 at 1:35 pm
Richochet Says:
August 27th, 2009 at 1:23 pm
Hell, our 6th rd pick, Josh Morgan alone makes Bey look like a cripple.
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Hey Nation maybe its Alex Smith him self he ol alex buddy you gonna make the 53 this year?????
August 27th, 2009 at 1:37 pm
Sidenote: That bs word press thing is saving you from another whipping. Just you wait boy
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GET EM AHH…(best Method Man Voice)
August 27th, 2009 at 1:37 pm
Dakota Says:
August 27th, 2009 at 1:34 pm
AZ, who the hell is Kolbe? You better not mean Kobe…that chick voluntarily bent over for him…and then went for the money.
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Sorry Dakota, I don’t watch basketball, so I wasnt sure how he spelled his name. My point was, OJ wouldn’t be the best representation in a domestic violence case. LOL
Sorry, I know your a basketball fan…
August 27th, 2009 at 1:40 pm
The whiners had the chance to draft Alex Smith or Aaron Rodgers, in that draft.
That has to be up there with San Diego taking Leaf over Manning, that’s a franchise that wishes it could go back and remake that decision.
The whiners are still claiming Smith’s carreer can be salvaged, sounds like a used washing machine, all noise no action.
August 27th, 2009 at 1:41 pm
Are you guys going to join Brien and I on the new post or what?
August 27th, 2009 at 1:42 pm
Brien
Hope all is well out there.
August 27th, 2009 at 1:46 pm
hey Dell. whats up man?
I got your question regarding the 53 man roster the other day.
why wait until the first cuts? lets do this!
i ain’t scared.
winner gets to be king of the blog for a week
August 27th, 2009 at 2:05 pm
new post!!!
August 27th, 2009 at 3:39 pm
richochet,
Thomas then was hired as GM of the San Francisco 49ers in 1977 by new owner Eddie DeBartolo at the recommendation of Al Davis and immediately fired head coach Monte Clark
Now shutub bitch and leave az and brien and all the other raider fans alone and now you got “SCHOOLED”