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Offense gets a passing grade

News and notes from Wednesday’s Raiders practice:

– The Raiders had their longest practice of training camp, which coach Tom Cable says was the plan all along.

It would be hard to blame him for keeping things going just so he could keep watching a passing offense that looked to be putting things together.

Keeping things in perspective, the Raiders had their first units playing against scout teams again as they game plan for the New Orleans Saints.

So they should look good.

But that hasn’t stopped them from having desultory passing sessions for the better part of the last three years regardless of their practice opposition.

During the team and seven-on-seven sessions included in a two-and-a-half hour practice, that changed. Instead of seeing balls strike the ground with alarming frequency, receivers ran crisp routes and caught passes just as they were coming out of breaks.

JaMarcus Russell was extremely accurate, Jeff Garcia had his moments and Bruce Gradkowski and Charlie Frye occasionally got into the act.

Instead of a parade of checkdowns and block-and-release throws to tight ends, virtually every wide receiver got into the act.

Darrius Heyward-Bey may have had his best training camp practice. Yes, he had a drop, but he also had what may have been his best catch _ a play in which he came to a stop, reached back to catch a Frye pass that went behind him, and somehow caught it while falling to the ground.

“Right after he caught it, I said to him, ‘Your mistake is you showed me you can do that and so now the expectation goes up,’ ” Cable said. “But he had a great day catching the ball. You all saw that. That catch right there would be difficult for anybody.”

Heyward-Bey shrugged his shoulders, called the catch “normal,” and said it was all in a day’s work.

“It’s a catch that needed to be made,” Heyward-Bey said. “I was working for the scout team, just went out there, ran a play, caught it.”

Tight end Zach Miller, who a week before said he was hoping for a “legit” offense, was appling adjectives to the potential of the passing game which seemed laughable after a practice meltdown against San Francisco.

“As soon as our offense gets that rhythm and our quarterbacks are on time with the receivers and anticipating them coming out of their breaks, our passing game is unstoppable,” Miller said. “It’s all about timing, rhythm and quarterbacks having trust in their receivers that they’re going to be in there break at a certain yardage, coming out at the right time.

“As soon as they’re feeling them and they’re letting the ball loose on time, you can’t defend it.

Cable called for a repeat performance Thursday morning, the Raiders’ last practice in Napa.

“We’re getting there. We’re getting closer,” Cable said. “I want to see us come out in the morning and do the same thing and build some consistency. When we’ve had a good practice or two, we’ve kind of tailed a little bit, so I’d like to just see us keep it at a high level. But it’s getting there.”

Said Johnnie Lee Higgins: “If we don’t do it again tomorrow, we wasted our time.”

– Cable said he was pleased with the session all the way up to the end, which was out of view of the media.

“Loved all three phases until the last period,” Cable said. “It was a long practice and I wanted to push them a little at the end.”

– Additional practice highlights are available on my Twitter page.

– Among those who didn’t practice included WR Chaz Schilens (foot), T Khalif Barnes (ankle), DE Matt Shaughnessy (foot), C John Wade (stinger), RB Justin Fargas (hamstring), LB Kirk Morrison (elbow), LB Isaiah Ekejiuba (shoulder), S Hiram Eugene, S Mike Mitchell (hamstring) and P Shane Lechler (groin).

Cable said those who could possibly play against New Orleans included Shaughnessy, Ekejiuba, Eugene and Lechler.

Cable said Eugene has missed the last two sessions with the stomach flu. Eugene told reporters he was out with a pectoral strain.

– Two new players, cornerback Michael Hawkins and defensive tackle Joe Cohen, got in their first work as Raiders. Hawkins was released recently by Tampa Bay after being released by Dallas. Cohen was cut loose by Miami.

Jason Horton was waived/injured and received a settlement, and wide receiver Samie Parker was waived to bring in Hawkins.

“We wanted to add a little depth along the D-line and get some more speed at corner,” Cable said.

– Cable said he still considered cornerback spot opposite Nnamdi Asomugha an open competition between Chris Johnson and Stanford Routt. Johnson at times was running second teams, with Routt moving inside as the slot corner when the Raiders went to nickel.

– Tight end end Brandon Myers needed an I.V. for cramps following practice.

– Advertisers for KSFO (560-AM) made for one of the biggest practice crowds of the season. Following practice, quarterback Jeff Garcia walked alongside a fence and signed an autograph for every fan who wanted one.

Russell, meanwhile has discovered a backdoor route out of the field house and was later spotted in the hotel lobby, where there were fewer autograph demands and no media requests.

– Barnes orchestrated a portion of the crowd to sing Happy Birthday to Cornell Green. When Green attempted to exit through the gate to avoid the serenade, CEO Amy Trask brought him back.

– According to an ESPN report, Napa police will talk to Tom Cable about his alleged involvement in an incident that left defensive assistant Randy Hanson with a broken jaw.

The Napa police have not updated their statement after announcing they were reopening the invesitgation of one Raiders coach being injured after an altercation with another Raiders coach.

– Al Davis has a Napoleon complex. A search of Profootballreference.com reveals only four players in pro football history named Napoleon. Three of them have signed with the Raiders _ Napoleon McCallum, Napoleon Kaufman and Napoleon Harris (twice).

The other Napoleon was Napoleon Barrell, a 5-foot-8, 200-pound center who played for the Oorang Indians in 1923. No way Davis could tell if Barrell had “Raider speed.” He wasn’t born for another six years and was probably 15 years away from dominating stickball games in the streets of Brooklyn.

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  • http://cosmicdanceband.com Silver-n-Black666

    MR

    The way I see it is no matter how many points we score when the 4th quarter comes and teams are driving for the winning touchdown or field goal and our 31st ranked run defense is tired it wont be fun to watch.

    Again I say this: to get above .500 we will have to be better against the run. Or holding on to leads in the 4th quarter will be impossible.

  • AZ Raider

    I can care less about Vick. I like the Eagles though so I’ll be rootin for ‘em fasho! Desaun Jackson is a local guy outta Cal. I always root for my Cali players if I can (meaning they don’t play for AFC west opposition).

  • lefty12

    Jhill-it isn’t happening at RDE either.against the whiners Ellis was worked over pretty good too.it could be we are just playing straight up so we can see what these guys strengths and weaknesses are.we might see some different things this week since it is the 1st game we are scheming.but if you think about it,why show what we are really going to do before the opener.try and let Norville figure things out without giving him any clues.

  • http://blstb.msn.com/i/55/90A2853B6CFBCC2AFC987BB18B832.jpg vegas raider

    Desean is the man, I got excited when I say Hawkings in Parker out yesterday, I thought we broght the “Hawk”, Latrelle Hawkins, back to the bay!!

  • http://www.blogcdn.com/www.fanhouse.com/media/2008/04/desmond-howard-425-sm.jpg Bo Schembechler Jackson

    Dakota Says:
    August 27th, 2009 at 11:37 am
    That is some funny schit bo.

    :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

    I would have posted a fake link but I watched you get a bad rep for that…

  • jhill

    I hear ya Lefty …

    If I said LDE earlier, I meant RDE, Trevor Scott’s position. That play that went to Ellis’ side was again a bad play bu Alston. Ellis got blocked down by the inside WR. That was a good block. Meanwhile, roid boy Alston was lost, and gave up the edge. One on one with a WR, he should’ve made that play.

    A side note to these plays … It should really help some of you understand how good Nnamdi is in run support. As good as he is, Routt is awful. FLAT OUT AWFUL!

  • mantus

    I’ll say it again……….the Colts won a sb with a 31 run-d……..points are everything, not stats.

  • jhill

    A link would’ve killed it ….

    You had me with the heading.

  • http://Raiders.com RaiderTW

    but when the 49ers scrubs beat us, well, we won the game while the starters were in by gosh!
    ———
    Sure, Dakota, take a shot at me for defending the Raiders. The only thing I said was was outta the 190 yds rushing how many points did their starters score? 3!

  • http://blstb.msn.com/i/55/90A2853B6CFBCC2AFC987BB18B832.jpg vegas raider

    Colts stopped the run in the playoffs that year once Bob Sanders came back.

  • AZ Raider

    Yeah Vegas, things that cool rarely happen with our Raiders though…

  • Ryan

    However, that Colts team stepped it up during the playoffs and played lights out run D – (I think they also got Sanders back for the playoffs.)

    You beat me to it Vegas. (You slow down!)

  • http://blstb.msn.com/i/55/90A2853B6CFBCC2AFC987BB18B832.jpg vegas raider

    I know our D got shredded against the run, but if I were Niner faithful I would be extremely worried about their QB’s. They looked about as bad as our Run D did.

  • http://cosmicdanceband.com Silver-n-Black666

    Yeah we are talking about a Tony Dungy defense that rarely was ranked that low. Like Vegas said they fixed it.

    We never were good (like Dungy’s defenses were)so your stats are skewed and do not apply in this situation.

    Dungy’s defense was very very good for a long time then had a slump for a half a season while Bob Sanders was out, then Bob came back and restored the defense to what it once was.

    To them that was a half a season slump for us its been a 6 YEAR slump!! Big difference there sports fan.

  • http://media-2.web.britannica.com/eb-media/63/60563-004-52A399D4.jpg Dakota

    Blackholepriest Says:
    January 28th, 2008 at 2:39 pm

    …I just spoke with John Herrera and for a fact Kiffin is conducting the interview with Lofton. But things still need to be worked out with respect to what his responsibilities are. Now this was while I was writing this post so take it for what it’s worth.
    And I never give info like this but something needed to be done. Hopefully it doesn’t bite me in the rear.

    Blackholepriest Says:
    January 28th, 2008 at 2:43 pm
    Guy’s I just put my ass on the line for you. And you better appreciate it because it wont happen again.
    Quite frankly I’m pissed at myself for doing something that stupid.

    Blackholepriest Says:
    January 28th, 2008 at 3:01 pm
    I’m signing off B4 I do something else. Because I do care that you guy’s are hardcore Raider fans and we get kicked constantly by the media and I just got tired of it. C ya’
    _________________________________

    Hey, Priesttj, did this ever get you into trouble? If I recall, Mike Taylor refused to let you into training camp last season, was it because of this?

  • http://blstb.msn.com/i/55/90A2853B6CFBCC2AFC987BB18B832.jpg vegas raider

    One game that year, the Colts gave up somthing ridiculous like 400 yards rushing to the Jags. Amazing the turnaround they made within a month or two.

  • http://media-2.web.britannica.com/eb-media/63/60563-004-52A399D4.jpg Dakota

    Out of respect for the sanctity of the Oakland Raiders organization, I would like to pass those BHP comments on to the Raiders…I think they should know that Herrera is leaking information to Priesttj, lol.

    Anyone have an e-mail address I could use? lol

  • http://cosmicdanceband.com Silver-n-Black666

    Funny how people come in here with their once in a life time stats and expect that to inspire us or give us hope.

    “he has the most wins for a left handed pitcher in divisional road night games when his team bats over .280 this year”

    Big deal!

  • http://blstb.msn.com/i/55/90A2853B6CFBCC2AFC987BB18B832.jpg vegas raider

    Maybe we will get to see DHB, first WR taken, go against Jenkins of NO, who was the first DB taken.

  • RaiderRockstar

    “get some more speed at corner,” Cable said.

    ***

    LOL. can CB Hawkins make the team based on speed alone ???

    don’t we have enough “Raider speed” in the secondary or did the signing of Rashad Baker bring the unit down a peg?

    on a positive note –

    I’m glad we’re getting Ike & Nessy back for the Saints game. Ike is a monster on ST and Shaughnessy is a base end that could help our run defense out

  • RaiderRockstar

    Maybe we will get to see DHB, first WR taken, go against Jenkins of NO, who was the first DB taken.

    ***

    you know who is gonna win that battle!

    Jenkins doesn’t have “Raider speed” or he’d be starting opposite Nnamdi right now. After his 40 time Kiper & McShay called him a safety in the NFL.

    Heyward-Bey will be in the endzone aka “the BEY area” at least once on Saturday

    DHB will wipe his pelosi with that fool!

  • tazZraider

    rmr,
    i know that the nfl is elite profession and everybody knows that it only matters on sundays but a good work ethic can make you better, determined, and to gain respect

  • http://www.blogcdn.com/www.fanhouse.com/media/2008/04/desmond-howard-425-sm.jpg Bo Schembechler Jackson

    RRS, you tracking Hurricane Danny? The Stormin Mormon is Formin!

    Garcia could very well be swept out to sea.

  • MaddenRaiderisadouchebag

    Richochet says DHB is already a bust without playing a single NFL game, while his boyfriend/other half of his brain MR Pansy says Crabtree is ALREADY proven. Why these 2 inquisitive minds aren’t working in the NFL is beyond me.

  • http://blstb.msn.com/i/55/90A2853B6CFBCC2AFC987BB18B832.jpg vegas raider

    RR,

    It would be great to see DHB parlay his apparently exceptional practices this week with a great half of football (say 4 rec 63 yards and a TD).

  • Richochet

    Florida Pete Says:
    August 27th, 2009 at 10:58 am
    Andrews Mom Says:
    August 27th, 2009 at 10:25 am
    Rich——– Who is your favorite team?

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    are you takling to richochet??? he prefers rack-o-schit…

    rack-o-schit’s favorite team of all time are the Bay Street Bungholers…
    —————–
    Petey?
    Are you still crying about me exposing you as being basically a clueless clod?
    Time heals all wounds.
    And considering you’re already slow to begin with, there’s a real good chance that you’ll forget the welts sooner than most.

    And here you thought being slow would be a liability?

  • Andrews Mom

    I have not heard the name Michael Bush in here.
    How has he looked this year?

  • RaiderRockstar

    BSJ: Danny Southwick is a franchise quarterback

    JaMarcus Russell was extremely accurate against the scout team. That means he should be able to shred any CB in the AFC West not named Champ Bailey

    with JaWalrus on the rise, D-Smooth’s chances are not getting any better.

    Russell/Frye/Southwick for 2009!

    get him in the fold Al!

    quit trying to shelf a 4th QB calling him “an intern” like Philly did…

  • El Dirty

    DHB

    Needs to translate his catches in games. We cant expect for him to be a godsend year 1. He will come along, one thing Al knows how to do is draft receivers.

  • Richochet

    Andrews Mom Says:
    August 27th, 2009 at 10:25 am
    Rich——– Who is your favorite team?

    ===================
    In other words, instead of addressing the comments about the Raiders, you would just as soon state “well, your qb is also so and so’??

    Why would you assume I’m not a Raider fan?

    I’m simply your voice of reason.
    I see no reason to coat things peachy when in fact it stinks.
    I see no reason to give Al a pass instead of calling him to task for his ridiculous decisions.
    I see no reason to coddle Russell, as if he’s a child, when his dedication is in question, and his effort is minimal.

    Aren’t you glad you asked?

  • OAKlifer

    DOUBLE R!!!!!!!1

    YES!! I cant wait to see Nessy in there he could help alot he and J Rich I believe will sovle some DE issues…

  • lefty12

    Vegas,it wold be great if JR threw the ball to him so we could all see how he looks.

  • Andrews Mom

    I hope double O is recovering nicely. I want to see our backfield spend monday night demorilizing Norm and his discharge.

    290 yards rushing in a 31 to 13 blowout

    Best year ever!!!

  • Richochet

    Florida Pete Says:
    August 27th, 2009 at 10:52 am
    Richochet Says:
    August 27th, 2009 at 10:09 am

    Cable is a slob. Players know that. Cable hasn’t done squat, himself, on the field. Players know that. Cable is a hypocrite when he stresses “control”, AND PLAYERS KNOW THAT. Cable isn’t in charge, Al is, AND EVERYONE KNOWS THAT.

    Just the way it is.

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    and you, sir… are a moron…

    AND EVERYONE KNOWS THAT !!!

    ———————
    See what I mean?
    No thought process for many of you.
    It’s like juvenile hangout in here.

    Now, everything I stated about Cable is correct.

    You know that.

    So intead of coming up with something that makes sense (no guarantee that is possible with you) you resort to silly little copout juvenile replies.

    Maybe I shouldn’t assume you’re capable of anything different?

  • AZ Raider

    SIP SIIP YUM YUM!!!!!

    JAVON WALKER COMBACK PLAYER OF THE YEAR!

    GALLERY TO THE PROBOWL!

    53 MEN AND COUTLESS FANS COMMITTED TO ONE PURPOSE!

    PLAYOFFBOUND!

    ;)

  • AZ Raider

    Wheeew, that was a good one!

  • RaiderRockstar

    ED: I don’t know about “a godsend” , but DHB can and should make an impact in his rookie season – especially since he’s a starter

  • On the beach in Cancun

    News Services reports that a spokeperson for the Napa police department told ESPN.com that coach Cable would be interviewed as part of an investigation about an alleged altercation that ended with assistant Randy Hanson in the hospital.

    I hope I’m wrong but I’m willing to bet that the Commissioner is going to want a copy of that investigative report and when all things are done and said: Cable going to get suspended for 4 to 6 games and we’ll have Hackett or Marshall as our acting Head Coach during that period. I can’t imagine the NFL Commissioner
    allowing “alleged violence, with a possible broken jaw, by a head coach on an assistant coach.” Not in a league that’s so concerned with image and respectability and appropriate punishments for the “perks” involved.

  • Raidervill

    Concerns…

    TScott – I have seen him pushed around in the first two games big time. Can he handle the edge? Is he a quality starter? JRich seems to playing well in preseason (granted against backups) but might he be the better option? Too bad Shaugnessy has been nicked up.

    LBS – Always getting blocked and never shooting the gaps. I saw Brown get knocked out of the hole several time against the Niners…is he really an up grade from Mo? We need the best three tacklers on the field. They really are the key to the run failures (along with the DE’s) in my mind.

    C – So far I have not seen an upgrade from Grove to Satele. Yes its been a short time and he is in a new system, but we can’t afford a drop off in any position on the oline. Green concerns me as always, but it appears no other option with Barnes down.

    WR – Only becasue Chaz is hurt. Otherwise I think this position is set for the future, if DHB continues to progress. JWalk/Murphy need to step in and become that dependable, intermediate target JRuss can depend on now that Chaz is out.

    Cable – Like how he works with Al(a must) and how he has ran training camp, but I’m still worried about his game day management. Can he make the proper play calls while managing the game like an efficient head coach? Is he going to lose games because of some bad decisions like he did last year? Hopefully he has learned form the mistakes…becasue he has a golden opportunity in front of him.

    One Nation Baby…

  • Andrews Mom

    RR——–I was wondering who Southwick was and if he a good cantidate for my next nickname. Is he even on the team?

    Rich——– I have not been here for a few and was actually curious. I quickly realized why my question should never have been asked when I caught the gist of how other posters respond to you.

    You will have to pardon my weak attempt at civility.
    Scarys room does not permit certain things and that is one of them.
    By the way, who is your favorite team?

  • Richochet

    AZ Raider Says:
    August 27th, 2009 at 11:29 am
    Richochet Says:
    August 27th, 2009 at 10:22 am
    Andrews Mom Says:
    August 27th, 2009 at 9:05 am
    So I bet a lot of the folks in here were mighty unhappy as draft day unfolded?

    Any good war stories from that day?

    I suspect history will have proven Al to be at the top of his game during the draft and all the naysayers will eat crow.
    =============================
    Sorry, but history is already saying that Bey was a bad pick for #7, and that your round two pick makes this years draft the WORST of any team.

    So far those day one reports are dead on, and Bey and Mitchell are both sub par.
    ………………………………………………

    Pushmychit,

    I think the General already gave you a history leason last night about your team last night, did he not? LOL, you 9er fans owe it all to Al Davis. NONE of those 5 trophies would be in your trophy room if it wasn’t for Al Davis. You should either learn about YOUR team before you bash another, or you should just pick a REAL one.
    ==============================
    :)
    Like I said..like taking candy from a baby.

    You know what? I think I’ll school both YOU and Brien.

    I notice you have NOTHING regarding Bey and Mitchell, lol
    Wonder why?

    Because their is nothing YOU CAN SAY except that weak “at least he’s in camp” whine.
    Just means he’s there, every day, taking the money, and still doing squat.

  • OAKlifer

    OK, raise your hands if you are shocked that Michael Crabtree is holding out.

    You’re right. It figured. The one player who turned off more than half the league during his NFL Combine visits — diva was the buzzword — dropped from his lofty perch as definitely a top-five player, athletically, to not even being the first wide receiver taken in last April’s draft. And, typical of his brashness, Crabtree now wants as much or more money than the Raiders paid Darrius Heyward-Bey, the receiver taken three spots ahead of him by Raiders owner Al Davis.

    good story!!!!

  • RaiderRockstar

    be back later. work to be done!

  • Brien the General

    Bitchochet is at it again? Kid just enjoys an ass whipping. You remind me of a woman that is the victim of domestic violence. The door is open to leave but for some reason you cant get the strength to do it

  • jhill

    You’ve toned you act way down, LOL!

    What happened?

    No deragatory name calling?

    Even calling others juvenile for doing what you used to do?

    This site has it’s epic moments. I swear people are posting under other peoples names. Or is it really jeckly and hyde shyt going on?

  • http://blstb.msn.com/i/55/90A2853B6CFBCC2AFC987BB18B832.jpg vegas raider

    Crabtree holding out is no shock, but what about Andre Smith? Everyone saw that coming from a mile away, except the Bengals. I called it during the draft, that Tits Smith would go in a pro-longed holdout and eventually be out of the league in 3-4 years. There is always one in the top-10 in the draft every year that is out of the league in less than 5 years, he seems like the obvious choice.

  • http://www.blogcdn.com/www.fanhouse.com/media/2008/04/desmond-howard-425-sm.jpg Bo Schembechler Jackson

    Andrew’s Mom, where you been for so long? The MBush news has been good, but the Fargas news is disappointing – he’s still considered a “starter”.

    More importantly, Al found an unheralded phenom QB out of Occidental College named Danny Southwick to push JaOctopus to his potential. This kid is on a mission from God and is already known in Napa as Football Jesus. Southwick is currently Hackett’s “intern” sidekick, but don’t you believe it!

    Al wants to win before he moves the team to Reno (far east bay), so Danny could be in line for a battlefield promotion any day now.

  • Brien the General

    Schooled? You have done zero schooling.

    The fact that DHB is out there working with his team means he gets better each and every day. Has Crabtree improved on anything that will help him nithe NFL thus far? The season hasn’t even started and you want to label the guy a bust. It isn’t like you are making a rational claim based on watching him through a full regular season game.

    As for Mitchell yep he has been injured, but guess what he still been with his teammates. Crabtree cant say that and its embarrassing. He is well on his way to losing millions and the Niners have a wasted pick instead of a player that could help their team improve.

  • Richochet

    AZ?? Feel free to give Brien a hand on this.
    (yes, we both know you won’t/can’t but still fun watching ya squirm ;) )

    Brien the General Says:
    August 26th, 2009 at 6:56 pm
    And here goes the killer. Everyone this is how you beat the 49er faithful down just watch……………….

    From 1946 to 1980 SF was a joke.In the late 1970s the NFL was heavily concerned about the failing franchise in SF. The NFL powers paid AL DAVIS to find a suitable owner who would brings a winning franchise to the city. Not only did Al get the Debartilos in the door he suggested their coach.

    Wait wait wait wait there. You mean to tell me Al Davis is responsible for the 49ers being a successful franchise that they were in 80s and 90s? Without al Davis the 49ers are a tragic joke that never wins the big one(like the Sf Giants)?

    49er fans need to know Al is your daddy and he made you
    =============================

    =============================

    Richochet: First off, you can’t even discuss the Raiders. How do you expect to discuss the Niners?

    Now, for fun, I’ll torch your inept ass on this as well.
    Pay attention, foolish boy.
    Al did NOT get the DeBartelo’s in with the league, moron.
    First off Valley, a FORMER partner of Al Davis, who Al now hated, tried to buy the 49ers from the Morobitos widows, who both held the team since their husbands died and ran it for over a decade.
    Al went and basically begged them to not sell to Valley, because he didn’t want him that close. Also thought they were selling too low, which devalued the Raiders. At one point the Moribitos widows asked Al if they could give them advice on selling, of which they would pay him a fee.
    In the mean time, the Debartelo’s had already been in the market, looking for a team. JOE THOMAS is the one who informed Debartelo Sr. about SF.

    Before they even considered buying SF, Debartelo told Thomas he would buy ONLY if Thomas signed on as GM, even before the deal was even considered. Then it was brought to SF, where Al advised the widows on the correct steps.
    Al NEVER contacted the Debartelo’s, fool.
    Al NEVER was paid by the NFL powers, you moron.
    The NFL NEVER got involved on any of it.

    And Al did NOT suggest Bill Walsh, cotton ball.

    Pay attention for schooling, period 2.

    Walsh worked for Brown. In Cinc. Debartelo’s are from Ohio. They knew all about Walsh. Walsh THOUGHT he was going to take over for Brown when he stepped down. Brown and Walsh butted heads on many ways to run a team while Walsh was an asst. with Brown, and Brown wasn’t comfortable with Walsh’s differing views from his old school ways.

    Brown informed Walsh he was going to be promoted, but expected Walsh to stay on as an asst, and that he wouldn’t release him from his contract. Walsh said “my contract is up next week, and I’m gone. Brown stated he would do everything he could to blackball Walsh, even stating ‘You’ll never be a HC in this league.”
    Debartelo Sr. knew about Brown’s comments, and didn’t want Walsh. Eddie Jr. met with Walsh anyway, and after their first meeting Eddie Jr. knew he wanted Walsh. Walsh was still coaching Stanford at the time.
    Eddie Jr. asked a lot of people what they thought of Walsh, including Al Davis.
    All Al did was verify to Eddie that he made a good hire in Walsh, that he liked him when Walsh was with the Raiders for one year.
    Lots of people knew Eddie Jr. had decided on Walsh since their first meeting, which was long before he chatted with Al.

    BTW..moron..that one year Walsh had with the Raiders? Was, and I quote Walsh: “The worst year I ever spent in football, anywhere. I learned from the Raiders on how NOT to run a team.”

    THAT’S A QUOTE FROM WALSH..

    Like I said, Brien, stick to stupid little comments. Less chance of getting reamed that way. You’ve JUST BEEN SCHOOLED..AGAIN…STILL!!

    And Az??? Get back to saying nothing because I GUARANTEE YOU you won’t have a single thing to say regarding this either. You’re defenseless, and that’s a well known fact.

    Aren’t you glad you asked? lol…I AM!!!

  • jhill

    LOL, B

    I was thinking porn star. I mean who else takes public facials with no shame?