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Curtain draws on Napa camp

By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Thursday, August 27th, 2009 at 1:32 pm in Oakland Raiders.

News and notes from the Raiders last training camp practice in Napa:

– Training camp 2009 ended with Todd Watkins making a sprawling catch in the end zone to culiminate a successful two-minute drill by the second team offense.

It was third-and-9, Jeff Garcia had driven the offense to the 26-yard line and 17.8 seconds remained.

Defensive coordinator John Marshall yelled, “No TDs!”

Sorry, John.

For the most part, however, coach Tom Cable thinks he and his staff got what they wanted out of 33 practice sessions behind the Napa Marriott.

“We hd a goal coming up here, and that was to leave here a better team, closer, and I think we’ve accompished that,” Cable said.

– Practice was in shorts and shells and wasn’t as grueling as Wednesday’s two and a half-hour marathon, but it was once again a very good practice for the Raiders passing game.

The JaMarcus Russell over the last two days bears no resemblence to the Russell who left footballs strewn all over the field during OTAs and minicamps, or even the Russell of last week who kept finding Nate Clements instead of his own teammates.

There was Russell hitting lobbing a completion to Michael Bush against Napoleon Harris, Russell finding Louis Murphy wide open over the middle, or throwing a dart into the corner of the end zone to Darrius Heyward-Bey against Justin Miller.

In red zone team drills and seven-on-sevens, it looked the way a passing offense is supposed to look against scout team defenders _ lots of touchdowns and completions.

“You have guys that are attacking the ball and making the catch look easy,” Russell said. “We’re getting there. It’s a process and we’re going through it together. It’s not like it’s one person’s job. Everybody’s job has to be done in order to get there. We’re on our way.”

– In the drive before Garcia led the Raiders to a touchdown in a two-minute drill to end camp, Russell came up short in his only crack at the first team defense.

The situation? Raiders at teh 20-yard line, and the scoreboard reads 10-7 with 1:32 to play.

Russell immediately connected with Zach Miller on a beatufil downfield seam route for 30 yards to the 50.

He then missed Miller, was incomplete on a deep pass to Johnnie Lee Higgins and then scrambled for five yards on third-and-10.

An illegal motion penalty on Higgins pushed the ball back five yards, and Huff’s final pass was incomplete, “Ball game,” shouted free safety Michael Huff.

– The first team defense, predictably, did much better against the scout team offense, with Nnamdi Asomugha and Tyvon Branch both getting interceptions.

– Those who did not practice included Chaz Schilens (foot), Khalif Barnes (ankle), John Wade (stinger), Justin Fargas (hamstring), Matt Shaughnessy (foot), Isaiah Ekejiuba (shoulder), Kirk Morrison (elbow) and Mike Mitchell (hamstring). The new addition was rookie linebacker Slade Norris (calf).

Cable assessed Mitchell’s progress this way: “It is getting better, but it has been slow to get there this time.”

So slow that Mitchell has never even been seen off to the side, working with a trainer in agility drills. It’s essentially been a complete shutdown.

– Wide receiver Javon Walker, who seemed to ease into his first session, got in some good work during his second practice, looking better that at any time during training camp a year ago, when he was called out by Lane Kiffin and talked of retiring and giving his bonus back.

“He’s a little rough with some of his assignments, but that’s normal,” Cable said. “He hasn’t had a lot of work, but he’s able to clear that because he’s had so much experience. He’s a really bright guy, and the net time you see him do it, he’s fixed the mistake from the time before. We’ll expect him to go after it Saturday.”

– Russell will play most if not all of the first half Saturday against New Orleans, with Garcia playing most of the second half. Cable said some starters could go into the third quarter.

– Cable continues to be coy as to his plans for the three-headed monster at running back. Will he try split the pie three ways, or will he go heavier with two backs, keeping a third in reserve in case of injury.

Cable noted improvement in Fargas’ receiving skills.

Michael Bush will get the start against New Orleans.

– If the Raiders were interested in Duke Preston, who they had at the facility for a visit in the offseason, the Dallas Cowboys beat them to the punch.

Wade, the backup center, has missed considerable time with a stringer.

– Former Raiders John Parrella, with ex-Raiders Rod Woodson and Josh Taves on his staff, will be head coach for the first varsity football game in the history of Valley Christian High School in Dublin.

– Interested to hear “professional liar” Chris Mortensen of ESPN tell Murph and Mac on KNBR this morning the Raiders were the second best team in the AFC West and could be a surprise team this year.

Is he to be believed?

– While Asomugha was being interviewed, Barnes walked past and had a request.

“Buy me a car, Nam,” Barnes said to the $45.3 million man. “An s500.”

If Barnes had stuck around, he could have at least had a No. 21 jersey. The cornerback had a handful of them and passed them out to some fans who were invited guests on the last day of camp.

Coming later today: Camp highlights and disappointments.

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170 Responses to “Curtain draws on Napa camp”

  1. Dakota Says:

    Why didn’t Cable end it with another patty-cake session or two?

  2. Brien the General Says:

    Bitchochet you outta read a book by Dan Moldea. It’s all about how organized crime and how it connects to pro football. I dont know how you arent aware of this. It was simple Al Davis knows the region and was at the time seen a genius to the football world. Eddie D was always known to have mob ties and that helped him get his other sports teams. In the early 70s didnt Debartilo own the Penguins? Al back then knew how to pick a solid winner and Eddie D was perfect because he will go that extra mile to get success. You think the NFL heads didnt go to Al to find a suitable person for that operation since SF was a failing mission? Be serious. and you phuckin idiot Al Davis suggested Joe Thomas

    As for Bill Walsh, he didnt come until 1979 after coaching at Standford for two seasons you knucklehead! They fired 3 coaches in between the time Eddie D bought the team and the hiring of Bill Walsh. Learn your facts man!!!

    Eddie D heard about Paul Brown’s comments huh? You’re an idiot Al again put Eddie D on notice on who to hire after the 49ers needed a new coach. You know owners talk amongst each other all the time and pro sports is a buddy system. Be serious. Also Walsh said Al taught him everything he knew

    Sidenote: That bs word press thing is saving you from another whipping. Just you wait boy

  3. OAKlifer Says:

    OAKlifer Says:
    August 27th, 2009 at 1:37 pm
    Sidenote: That bs word press thing is saving you from another whipping. Just you wait boy

    *******************

    GET EM AHH…(best Method Man Voice)

  4. Raider Dell Says:

    Raider Dell Says:
    August 27th, 2009 at 1:40 pm
    The whiners had the chance to draft Alex Smith or Aaron Rodgers, in that draft.

    That has to be up there with San Diego taking Leaf over Manning, that’s a franchise that wishes it could go back and remake that decision.

    The whiners are still claiming Smith’s carreer can be salvaged, sounds like a used washing machine, all noise no action.

  5. Dakota Says:

    Hey, Raider Dell just brought up Aaron Rodgers on the last thread…

    …weren’t there rumors that GB would have traded him to us for a second round pick prior to the 2007 draft? Then we could have selected CJ #1 and had Rodgers as our QB…man, that would have been cool.

    No offense Russell…

  6. vegas raider Says:

    Aarron Rodgers is my boy from Butte College. Really, really freaking smart kid, he had college calculus credits when he was 16 years old.

    Go fighting roadrunners!!!!!

  7. Brien the General Says:

    This 49er bastard is talking nonsense and telling lies. He brings zero facts to the table.

    He admits to Al getting a fee paid to him but it was by the Morabitos but not the NFL owners. Come on use your brain! You really think a new owner will come into the area and Al doesn’t have his hand deeply in the process? Those guys on some level have to be able to co-exist since combining both places together the Bay AREA is the 4th largest market. Al is just gonna let any old asshole come in and not get his approval? Al was the winning product during those years and success means your words are paid attention to.

    Al Davis knew joe Thomas for many years. Al was the fuking commisioner of the AFL and Joe Thomas worked for an AFL team…….the Miami Dolphins. How did Eddie D know Thomas? I’m interested to know this one Bitchochet.

  8. OAKlifer Says:

    heck then we could have drafted Raji this year.. .maybe even C wood would come back dang lets just all run out and buy a green and gold jersy!!!! LOL

    Wait…..that would make a nice looking roster….mmmm

  9. jhill Says:

    Actually tried to trade for him and Shaub. We offered a 2nd to both GB and Atl. Texas came in higher with two 2nd rd picks, and GB flat out said no to trading Rogers.

  10. OAKlifer Says:

    Richochet Says:
    August 27th, 2009 at 1:23 pm

    Hell, our 6th rd pick, Josh Morgan alone makes Bey look like a cripple.

    *************************

    Hey Nation maybe its Alex Smith him self he ol alex buddy you gonna make the 53 this year?????

  11. Dakota Says:

    OAKlifer Says:
    August 27th, 2009 at 1:50 pm
    heck then we could have drafted Raji this year.. .maybe even C wood would come back dang lets just all run out and buy a green and gold jersy!!!! LOL

    Wait…..that would make a nice looking roster….mmmm
    ______________________________________________
    Man, if only Elway had been traded to us….

    Wait, after his rookie year you guys would have had him drawn and quartered!

  12. Dakota Says:

    You guys…we better stop making fun of Alex Smith…I wouldn’t be surprised if we picked him up next season after the 49ers cut him! lol

  13. OAKlifer Says:

    LOL……’
    hahah

    Not with Southwick intown no chance!!!!!!!!

  14. Raider Dell Says:

    Dakota

    You know how rumors start, let’s lok at the story.

    Chris Mortensen was talking to his source, a reliable one at that, when he read Jerry’s blog and noticed better information that pointed to the fans interest in Rodgers, which then became his Raider source, got it so far.

    Once Mort, verified the story (with LMN) he went on national TV with the scoop.

    At that time, LMN was a rspected new comer to the blog and hadn’t shown his dislike for America yet. Eventually the story was carried by the GreenBay press and became a bigger story due to his habit of getting injured all the time.

    The story finally became a non story, when John Herrera yelled at the press, who ever continues that false rumor would get punched out.

  15. Dakota Says:

    Looks like Al made it to a town hall meeting recently, Pelosi called on him:

    http://www.seattlepi.com/dayart/20061107/450election_cantwell_fingers.jpg

  16. Dakota Says:

    Lol, is that how it happened Dell? I certainly wouldn’t doubt it!

  17. Raider Dell Says:

    Dakota

    Remember this Blog is national, the Raiders are nation’s team, it all fits.

    Besides, we know more than Mort, could ever know.

  18. Dakota Says:

    LMFAO:

    http://www.dallasnews.com/img/photo/07-02/NS_07MikeSecurity_1.JPG

  19. Brien the General Says:

    Dell everything is well! I’m just cutting another 49er bastard to the floor where he/she belongs. Fabricating the truth to the ultimate max and someone has to check him.

    Has the nerve to make it seem like Walsh hated Al Davis or something lol. I wonder why Bill Walsh testified on the Raiders behalf in a fraud lawsuit before

  20. RaiderRockstar Says:

    repost –

    hey Dell. whats up man?

    I got your question regarding the 53 man roster the other day.

    why wait until the first cuts? lets do this!

    i ain’t scared.

    winner gets to be king of the blog for a week :)

  21. AZ Raider Says:

    what does the “King” get from the blog?

  22. Brien the General Says:

    I want Bitchochet back in here so he/she can finish his/her history lesson

  23. Dakota Says:

    Brien,

    What are you going to do when Al moves the team back to LA in a couple of years?

  24. Raider Dell Says:

    Brien

    I will be there tomorrow. If I get the opportunity, where are you tailgating at. Also, do I need permission from Norco Bob to swing by.

  25. Brien the General Says:

    Oakglenn is the King of the Blog

    BHP is the wise elder Wizard

    Both are superior and my heroes. I wish I could be like them when I get older

  26. Dakota Says:

    wow, yummy:

    http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/84983/april-rose-hometown-hotties-2008-04.jpg

  27. Brien the General Says:

    Dell why would you need permission? You are cool. I believe we will be in A lot. not exactly where. I’m catching the BART to meet them. U?

  28. Raider Dell Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    August 27th, 2009 at 2:05 pm
    repost –

    hey Dell. whats up man?

    I got your question regarding the 53 man roster the other day.

    why wait until the first cuts? lets do this!

    i ain’t scared.

    winner gets to be king of the blog for a week
    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

    That’s a deal. Now help me out with my FFL league draft. Should I take A RB first or a QB. What our your thoughts.

  29. Brien the General Says:

    # Dakota Says:
    August 27th, 2009 at 2:08 pm

    Brien,

    What are you going to do when Al moves the team back to LA in a couple of years?
    *****************************

    Raiders will never go back to LA. Enjoy your Lakers and Dodgers………ooooooooh wait that team beat your ass in the playoffs errr Cubs?

  30. Brien the General Says:

    Dakota what will you do when you have a socialist gov’t? I bet you will dress like a hippy and dance in the streets all nite long huh?

  31. Dakota Says:

    This one is for you Brien!

    http://www.hypebeast.com/image/2008/05/hall-of-fame-mitchell-ness-la-1.jpg

  32. Raider Dell Says:

    Brien

    Driving up to tailgate, always do. I am usually in lot C on the Hengenburger side.

    We have a group of us that meets all the time, very good food and spirits.

    I don’t think I will get there to late, not to meet you.

    The problem is leaving the great Raider Men and Woman which make my trip so much fun.

  33. Brien the General Says:

    So people after this Saturday, I wonder how many people will be on the blog giving Farglass any move. Thank god he more than likely wont play. The top 3 RBs will finally play. This New Orleans game outta be fun and its at 1pm or something. Means I gotta take it easy and not get too faded Friday night. Damn!

  34. Brien the General Says:

    C lot. Oh yeah where they had that Coors light little exhibition for the SD game last year?

  35. Raider Dell Says:

    Brien

    What Bart station do you use to go to the game.

  36. Raider Dell Says:

    Brien the General Says:
    August 27th, 2009 at 2:10 pm
    Dell why would you need permission? You are cool. I believe we will be in A lot. not exactly where. I’m catching the BART to meet them. U?
    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

    I will try real hard to get to lot A and listen for Heavy Metal music and scream out “BRIEN” and to make my journey successful, I will bring along extra beers for the journey.

  37. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Now help me out with my FFL league draft. Should I take A RB first or a QB. What our your thoughts.

    ***

    tough call. depends on who is on the board when you’re up

    I like QB’s Drew Brees, Peyton Manning, Kurt Warner, Aaron Rodgers & Donovan McNabb

    Jay Cutler, David Garrard, Tony Romo, Matt Ryan & Big Ben would be solid as well …

    I like RB’s Adrian Peterson, Michael Turner, DeAngelo Williams, Clinton Portis & Thomas Jones

    Steve Slaton, Matt Forte, Chris Johnson, Ryan Grant & Frank Gore would be solid as well …

  38. Raider Dell Says:

    Dakota

    Nice hottie. Where do you watch the game or do you wait for the NFLN replay.

  39. SacRaider Says:

    …weren’t there rumors that GB would have traded him to us for a second round pick prior to the 2007 draft? Then we could have selected CJ #1 and had Rodgers as our QB…man, that would have been cool.
    ————————–

    Weren’t we trying to trade Moss for Rodgers but Al wanted a pick also? good times…

  40. Dakota Says:

    Brien:

    LA Raiders 95-73 1 SB victory

    Since moving back to Oakland…

    92-132 0 SB victories

  41. Raider Dell Says:

    RRS

    I have two FFL drafts back to back. I quess the draft order is what will determine my decision.

    DMAC was left off your list, according to other sites who have had drafts up to this point, DMAC is in the top two rounds.

    I just don’t know if he will get enough touches.

  42. Dakota Says:

    Dell, I’ve caught the first two games on KTLA. Haven’t look to see if this upcoming game will be on or not….sure hope so.

  43. Raider Dell Says:

    Later Raider Men!

    Business awaits my presence.

  44. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Dell: we don’t know if Fargas is still on scholarship.

    I have reservations about DMC’s fantasy value until I see Cable go out of his way to get the ball in #20’s hands …

    right now he’s not even a guy Defensive Coordinators have to gameplan for/against!

  45. Brien the General Says:

    LOL that depends on where I’m too drunk and pass out at? Could be El Cerrito Del Norte, MacArthur, San Leandro, Bayfair or Hayward. It just depends on how my Friday is

    Listen for Heavy Metal? LOL well many do that at the parking lot.

    I bet I find you before. I have a way of making myself known lol
    ****************************

    # Dakota Says:
    August 27th, 2009 at 2:26 pm

    Brien:

    LA Raiders 95-73 1 SB victory

    Since moving back to Oakland…

    92-132 0 SB victories
    ______________________

    After all of the Oakland connected players left what did the Raiders do dakota? How do you not acknowledge the fact that the 83 team had predominantly the same team from the 80 title? Rod Martin said the Raiders werent an LA thing and he was from LA!

  46. Richochet Says:

    1. Brien the General Says:
    August 27th, 2009 at 1:32 pm
    Bitchochet you outta read a book by Dan Moldea. It’s all about how organized crime and how it connects to pro football. I dont know how you arent aware of this. It was simple Al Davis knows the region and was at the time seen a genius to the football world. Eddie D was always known to have mob ties and that helped him get his other sports teams. In the early 70s didnt Debartilo own the Penguins? Al back then knew how to pick a solid winner and Eddie D was perfect because he will go that extra mile to get success.

    Richochet: Again, you’re an idiot. Now you’re saying AL DAVIS “picked” the Debartelo’s because of their mob ties? MORON. Al didn’t PICK ANYONE, fool.
    And “Al knows the region’? THE 49ERS WERE ESTABLISHED BEFORE THE RAIDERS WERE..geez…you don’t have a clue, do you?
    ==============================
    Brien the Girl Scout: You have trouble reading? I’m serious. You think the NFL heads didnt go to Al to find a suitable person for that operation since SF was a failing mission? Be serious.

    Richochet: Take your head out of your rear, fool. Niners WON THE DIVISION in 1970. Won it in ’71. Won it in ’72. The reason it was on the block is because the widows were OLD, and wanted to sell, MORON.
    The WIDOWS asked Al if he knew anyone..HE DIDN”T. All Al did was lobby to get the one person who had made an offer, VALLEY, out of the picture. That’s how they knew Al because of his whining about a guy he hated possibly taking over the 49ers. You couldn’t be any dumber if you took a class.
    ==================================

    Brien the Girl Scout: and you phuckin idiot Al Davis suggested Joe Thomas

    Richochet: LMAO..you are so desperate, and stupid to boot. Pay attention, for ANOTHER SCHOOLING, LITTLE BOY..Joe Thomas LIVED near the Debartelo’s in Ohio. He not only KNEW THEM, but, according to Debartelo himself “Joe Thomas is a FAMILY FRIEND”.
    Now how stupid are you to suggest it was Al that suggested Joe Thomas? Besides, suggested Thomas FOR WHAT? Thomas had just gotten canned as GM by the Colts, and then approached the Debartelo’s. Again, FAMILY FRIEND, fool. Hired as GM BEFORE he even went out to California to discuss the 49ers. AFTER HE AND DEBARTELO CAME TO CA. HE CONTACTED THE WIDOWS AND AL DAVIS to discuss details.
    =====================================

    Brien the Girl Scout: As for Bill Walsh, he didnt come until 1979 after coaching at Standford for two seasons you knucklehead! They fired 3 coaches in between the time Eddie D bought the team and the hiring of Bill Walsh. Learn your facts man!!!

    Richochet: Damn, you’re an nitwit. Yeah, fool, I stated HE WAS COACHING AT STANFORD. Because HE WAS. Debartelo’s bought the Niners in Jan 1977, Joe Thomas had three coaches in two years before Eddie Jr. went after Walsh, who insisted Joe Thomas be gone before he took over. Eddie fired Thomas, hired Walsh, and a dynasty was born, lol..and the Niner then owned the Bay..and have ever since.
    And now? I own YOUR ass.
    =========================

    Brien the Girl Scout: Eddie D heard about Paul Brown’s comments huh? You’re an idiot Al again put Eddie D on notice on who to hire after the 49ers needed a new coach. You know owners talk amongst each other all the time and pro sports is a buddy system. Be serious. Also Walsh said Al taught him everything he knew.

    Richochet: Do you read? Go read, moron. See, that’s how I learn things. You? You “assume”..just like the “OMG..he’s MAFIA!!! MOMMY!! Or the above..where “owners talk among themselves”..Damn..are you honestly this naïve? Go read the “Genius-Bill Walsh.” I have.
    You, fool, are tantamount to a cotton ball with your idiot “”buddy system”. No, that’s the “good ole boy” system, moron, not the “buddy system”.
    Read above. Joe Thomas “FAMILY FRIEND”..LONG before..

    And in ONE year? Al Davis taught a little insignificant asst EVERYTHING HE KNOWS??
    First off, as BILL WALSH STATED, what he learned from Al Davis is how NOT to run an organization..HIS WORDS. What he learned was from Sid Gillman, MORON, not Al Davis, and from Paul Brown. To that he incorporated his own ideas.

    Brien the Girl Scout: Sidenote: That bs word press thing is saving you from another whipping. Just you wait boy
    Richochet: You just got torched again, fool.
    Question: In real life are you as stupid as you appear on this board?

  47. Dakota Says:

    LA RAIDERS!!!!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-eEF8zplJY8&feature=PlayList&p=BD61DB9941EBB749&index=0&playnext=1

    lol, hey Brien, looks like some dipschit just wrote you a book…I won’t bother you with this silly LA-Oak thing for now, lol.

  48. Dakota Says:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-eEF8zplJY8&feature=PlayList&p=BD61DB9941EBB749&index=0&playnext=1

    I gotta post this again, man, I love the Howie Long solo, lmfao….whew…I got tears rolling right now…

  49. Richochet Says:

    Brien the General Says:
    August 27th, 2009 at 1:47 pm
    This 49er bastard is talking nonsense and telling lies. He brings zero facts to the table.

    He admits to Al getting a fee paid to him but it was by the Morabitos but not the NFL owners. Come on use your brain! You really think a new owner will come into the area and Al doesn’t have his hand deeply in the process? Those guys on some level have to be able to co-exist since combining both places together the Bay AREA is the 4th largest market. Al is just gonna let any old asshole come in and not get his approval? Al was the winning product during those years and success means your words are paid attention to.

    RICHOCHET: Thanks for proving you have crap for brains. The NFL NEVER seeks out an owner in an area to get “approval” you dumbass. It is VOTED ON BY ALL OF THE OWNERS.
    How can YOU BE SO STUPID??
    And dude, think about it. Al Davis is the most disliked owner in the league..you really think the NFL would inquire anything from that quack?

    Quit making things up, little boy. You’re just embarrassing yourself.
    ———————————————-

    Al Davis knew joe Thomas for many years. Al was the fuking commisioner of the AFL and Joe Thomas worked for an AFL team…….the Miami Dolphins. How did Eddie D know Thomas? I’m interested to know this one Bitchochet.

    Richochet: LIVES NEAR THE DEBARTELO’S. 10 years PRIOR to all this Thomas and the Debartelo’s met at a college All Star game, became friends, and became better friends through the years. Once Thomas got FIRED by the Colts as GM, and knew that the Niners were on the market, he, wisely, went to the Debartelo’s and brought up the idea of them buying the Niners. That’s how it came about where Eddie Sr. told Thomas they would consider it ONLY if he became GM (big mistake, because Thomas sucked as GM) where Thomas agreed, and they gave him a contract in the event they ended up buying the Niners.

    ====================
    Again, do you feel as stupid as you look?
    Just curious.

  50. beeecham Says:

    Hey Brian the Genital, checking to see if you’ve made plans with your uncle Krappy for getting to the game this Saturday.

    I suggested yesterday you get to his house Fri night so you can cover his car seats in thick plastic to protect against any “mishaps” on the way to the game. You can find duct tape and lyme at your neighborhood Lowe’s.

    Since you two cool dudes seem like the kind who’d paint their faces, make sure you keep Krappy from painting his with mashed potatoes from his Hungry Man. You don’t want the seagulls nibling your poor senile uncle’s nose to shreds.

    And finally – have fun! I know it’s been a long tough week for you two with all the fighting. This is a time to just let it all go and enjoy being family.

    And when you both crap your pants in unison at the end of the game, I hope you share a tender, special hug that knows no end.

  51. Richochet Says:

    Brien the General Says:
    August 27th, 2009 at 2:04 pm
    Dell everything is well! I’m just cutting another 49er bastard to the floor where he/she belongs. Fabricating the truth to the ultimate max and someone has to check him.

    Has the nerve to make it seem like Walsh hated Al Davis or something lol. I wonder why Bill Walsh testified on the Raiders behalf in a fraud lawsuit before
    ——————
    Stop crying little boy.

    Never said he hated Davis. You starting to lie now? lol..feeling pressure to save face?
    Little embarrassing to be getting schooled like this?

    Hey, I warned you. Next time, pay attention.

    What I stated was Walsh stated that “The year with the Raiders was the worst year in my career in the NFL”

    Also stated “I learned how NOT to run an organization”

    Again, go read Bill Walsh’s book. Might learn something.

    As far as testifying? lol..he received a subpoena fool.

  52. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Dell: here ya go bro. no changes from here on out. it’s official

    QB: Russell, Garcia, Frye
    RB: McFadden, Bush, Fargas
    FB: O’Neal, Lawton
    WR: Heyward-Bey, Schilens, Murphy, Higgins, Walker
    TE: Miller, Myers, Stewart
    OL: Henderson, Barnes, Gallery, McQuistan, Satele, Wade, Morris, Carlisle, Green, Pears
    DL: Ellis, Scott, Shaughnessy, Richardson, Warren, Kelly, Boschetti, Joseph
    LB: Brown, Morrison, Howard, Alston, Ekejiuba, Norris, Williams
    CB: Asomugha, Johnson, Routt, Miller
    S: Eugene, Huff, Branch, Mitchell, Baker
    K/P: Janikowski, Lechler
    LS: Condo

  53. Richochet Says:

    I have a question for everyone.

    why is it all of the Niner games are sold out, and televised locally, and the Raiders many times aren’t?

    Look at preseason.

    Niners home games are telecast at the time they play.
    Raider home games are time delayed unti late at night.

    How is it Niner fans are so loyal, and Raider fans can’t seem to fill up the stadium every game?
    You have one of the smallest stadiums in the NFL, and still you don’t have enough season ticket holders??

    What’s up with that?

    I mean, I read that in the last 10 years the Raiders have had MORE HOME GAMES BLACKED OUT than any other team in the NFL.

    Used to be a time Raider fans were diehards, and supported the team, win or lose.

    Those times are long gone.

    Interesting that, even though the Niners haven’t even been to a SB in over a decade, they have continued to sell out each and every year since 1981…that’s OVER A QUARTER OF A CENTURY of sellouts, NON STOP.

    Now, how is it Niner fans are so loyal, and Raider fans aren’t? How is it they have NOT HAD ONE SINGLE GAME BLACKED OUT IN 28 YEARS??

    And the Raiders, on the other hand, lead the NFL in blackouts?

    You guys should look to the other side of the bay to learn what real, loyal, diehard fans are.

    Food for thought.

  54. 4evaRaider Says:

    fukkin word sh!t

  55. 4evaRaider Says:

    been trying 2post 4 hours

  56. 4evaRaider Says:

    oooooh sure NOW it goes through

  57. El Dirty Says:

    4eva

    Hows it going?

  58. 4evaRaider Says:

    well now I dont want 2post

  59. 4evaRaider Says:

    EL=DIRTYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY

    Man they will let anyone out wont they !!!

  60. 4evaRaider Says:

    I glad you’re out…just in time 4da season…thats prolly why they let you out cause if they didnt and it was the season,there would have been HELL 2 PAY…HELL 2 PAY

  61. Dakota Says:

    Man, today the butcher backed into the meat grinder and got a little behind in his work…

  62. PassTheCheetos Says:

    Its nice to hear about to good practices in a row.

  63. beeecham Says:

    Rich, I’m amazed. You actually spent time and effort putting together a post about … fan attendance.

    Then you pick on a retard like Brian the Genital and take great pride in getting over on him. Sort of like tripping a 12 year old at the Special Olympics and then taking a victory lap.

    And finally you have this silly little chick addiction to cut and pasting the post you’re answering above your answer. It’s really just dumb and your post is usually just skipped over by everyone. Important information for the next time you write a passionate post about Candlestick Park concession sales or marketing strategies.

    Anyway let’s get it together, little dude, if you want to stay on the ol blog. Kick ass!

  64. texguy Says:

    Richochet is b1tch a$$ l0ser who got banned from 49er blogs. Go away you little peon.

  65. 4evaRaider Says:

    fuggin Dakota lol

    Dirty where did you go???

  66. 4evaRaider Says:

    hey Dirty if you dont know …press f5 and then retry when your liquid meter at bottom of page is like 25% full

  67. No More Infield or Trolls Says:

    Niners have to offer free chardonay and brie cheese. thats the only way they can fill that hell hole of a stadium…

  68. El Dirty Says:

    ok sorry I couldn’t post.

    They cut me loose earlier this week. No way I miss week 1. I will be up there 8/12/09. But wait, Don’t you live on the east coast?

  69. destrilogy Says:

    #6 im 17 and i have a calculus credit?
    doesnt mean im a starting QB in the NFL.
    i wonder what russell had????

  70. 4evaRaider Says:

    yep florida…but I still am trying 2 make the Nov.15 game vs. the squaws

  71. Dakota Says:

    “Man, I wondered why the football kept getting bigger. Then it hit me!”

    Stewart Scott

  72. El Dirty Says:

    NICE!

    How’s your pooch? All is well?

  73. 4evaRaider Says:

    fuggin Dakota…I’m still cracking up over that corny joke =)

  74. 4evaRaider Says:

    Roxie is still being a GREAT dog!!!Still hangs around on her rope about 8′ off the ground.I hear Mrs.Dirty relayed all the messages!!! She IS ok 4a charger fan huh!!!

  75. Dakota Says:

    Breaking News:

    Today, authorities have announced that a midget fortune-teller has escaped from prison. Citizens are warned to keep an eye out for the small medium at large.

  76. 4evaRaider Says:

    Its the Dakota comedy hour with special guest…El Dirty!!!

  77. El Dirty Says:

    Right on. Yeah she has her moments. Good stuff, Have you seen 408?

  78. 4evaRaider Says:

    hang on a minute Dakota…I’m gonna burn 1 so I can pee myself!!!

  79. 909RaiderLifer Says:

    El Dirty…

    Great to see that you are OUT and about, welcome back..

  80. 4evaRaider Says:

    He was in here B4 work this morning…he has a phone he can post from tho I dont know the #

  81. 4evaRaider Says:

    Citizens are warned to keep an eye out for the small medium at large.

    Now we’re really confused

  82. Dakota Says:

    After eating a missionary, some cannibals developed a tast for religion.

  83. 4evaRaider Says:

    Dirty I’m been laid-off since Christmas so money is tight good thing I’m a part-time farmer…Air-fare should still be low around NOV,so I can prolly come out for 2 or 3 days,stay at a motel 6(Norco Bob thinks I’m cheap)…But maybe thats what I can do

  84. El Dirty Says:

    909

    Whats happenen brotha… Nice to know all you guys are still around. Minus some unfavorable people that I don’t see on here anymore… like that wierdo charger fan. What happened to that guy? did he finally move out of his moms?

  85. 4evaRaider Says:

    Lord have mercy Dakota!!!

  86. Dakota Says:

    Yes, my first love was only a whisky maker, but I loved her still.

  87. 4evaRaider Says:

    he never recoverd from that banging you gave him Dirty!!! =)

  88. El Dirty Says:

    4eva

    Doesn’t matter where you stay… Only matters how you stay there. Booze, Women, gerbils, wait scratch the gerbils… lol

  89. 4evaRaider Says:

    you 4got the pvc…but I dont know about these things

  90. 909RaiderLifer Says:

    El Dirty….

    Which one? the punk who said he had a band? haven’t seen that clown around here in a while.

  91. tazZraider Says:

    hey nation,

    who’s seen the new asomugha commercial?

  92. raidertbone Says:

    Richochet
    Went to play
    With himself
    ‘Cause he is gay!

  93. Dakota Says:

    tazZraider Says:
    August 27th, 2009 at 3:52 pm
    hey nation,

    who’s seen the new asomugha commercial?
    _____________________________________

    What is he selling? Blankets?

  94. 909RaiderLifer Says:

    Damn! Temp hit 10effing7* here today. Thats even to hot for my “guard” lizards around the rose bushes..lol

  95. 4evaRaider Says:

    good angle Dakota

  96. tazZraider Says:

    lol naw he ain’t selling blanket its a dick sporting good’s commercial i seen some of it.

  97. Richochet Says:

    beeecham Says:
    August 27th, 2009 at 3:15 pm
    Rich, I’m amazed. You actually spent time and effort putting together a post about … fan attendance.

    Then you pick on a retard like Brian the Genital and take great pride in getting over on him. Sort of like tripping a 12 year old at the Special Olympics and then taking a victory lap.

    And finally you have this silly little chick addiction to cut and pasting the post you’re answering above your answer. It’s really just dumb and your post is usually just skipped over by everyone. Important information for the next time you write a passionate post about Candlestick Park concession sales or marketing strategies.

    Anyway let’s get it together, little dude, if you want to stay on the ol blog. Kick ass!
    =======================================
    Speaking of gluttons..are you serious, dude?
    Honestly, tearing into this comment is probably the easiest thing I’ve addressed here.

    First off..isn’t the following YOURS??:
    ===================
    beeecham Says:
    August 27th, 2009 at 2:44 pm
    Hey Brian the Genital, checking to see if you’ve made plans with your uncle Krappy for getting to the game this Saturday.

    I suggested yesterday you get to his house Fri night so you can cover his car seats in thick plastic to protect against any “mishaps” on the way to the game. You can find duct tape and lyme at your neighborhood Lowe’s.

    Since you two cool dudes seem like the kind who’d paint their faces, make sure you keep Krappy from painting his with mashed potatoes from his Hungry Man. You don’t want the seagulls nibling your poor senile uncle’s nose to shreds.

    And finally – have fun! I know it’s been a long tough week for you two with all the fighting. This is a time to just let it all go and enjoy being family.

    And when you both crap your pants in unison at the end of the game, I hope you share a tender, special hug that knows no end.
    ==================
    =====================

    Richochet: YOU comment about me taking the time to discuss attendence? lol..what the hell was that you just “took the time” to post about? Was a kiddy smack take, nothing more.

    You then comment about how I picked on Brien the retard, and how I shouldn’t take any glee from the ease of picking on a child…WHEN YOU JUST DID THE EXACT SAME THING??
    Uh..pot?? Meet kettle.

    And you finish with a “why post a link”?? What is it with the collective lack of brain matter on this board?
    You NEED that explained?
    IT’S CALLED RUBBING IT IN, foolish “Brien is my toy, AND ONLY MINE” Beeech.
    Of COURSE you and everyone knows the answer to who’s the biggest reach? Link is salt.

    Just cut to the chase, now that I’ve exposed you.

    YOU VIEW BRIEN AS YOURS, and you take umbrage at “sharing the target”.
    Hell, next time put a collar on him, with a dog tag.

    I’ll return him when I’m done..I promise.

  98. tazZraider Says:

    rickanuts

    before you start to keep on bashin brien the niners will be a sorry team if your greatest coach bill walsh hadn’t worked for al davis as a raiders ASSISTANT. Here I’ll show you

    “Walsh began his pro coaching career in 1966 as an assistant with the AFL’s Oakland Raiders. As a Raider assistant, Walsh was trained in the vertical passing offense favored by Al Davis”

    i bet you gonna come up with somethin stupid just like when peoiple i was ask you good questions that keep you moded but then you come up with stupid ass remarks.

  99. El Dirty Says:

    909

    Yes the guy that was in a band and played in bowling alleys.

  100. tazZraider Says:

    oh and just to add a little more richochet, i have tons of respect for bill walsh but he would’ve never, ever came up with the west coast offense if he hadn’t been went to the raiders.

  101. KoolKell Says:

    If Al Davis were retired, we could jaw all day about his NFL influences, Bill Walsh etc.

    But he aint, and that long ago bullshyt is not relevant today.

    The Raiders have had 6 Playoff Appearances in the last 20 years.

    Been gouged on the ground the last 6 years

    Gave up 275 yds on the ground in the last game.

  102. tazZraider Says:

    its time to shut your fukin idiot ass up now richochet and i bet you gonna come with a lame ass comeback.

    bill walsh coaching tree:holmgren,fassel,paul hackett, sam wyche,george seifert,dennis green,andy reid, mike sherman,ray rhodes,mariucci,john fox, mike mccarthy,john gruden,mike shanahan,tony dungy,jeff fisher,mike tice,brian billick, brad childress,marty morhinweg,bill callahan,gary kubiak,jack del rio,mike smith,bruce coslet,mike mularkey,lovie smith, mike tomlin, rod marinelli, and john harbaugh.

    this list would probably never had existed if bill walsh had never learned the vertical offense under Davis which he was trained in and eventually made his own similar offense the west coast. if walsh never learned from davis bill walsh legacy wouldn’t have been the same.

    Now shut the fuk up richochet and let us raider fans be excited for our bright future whiler niners bites our dust.

  103. Norco Bob Says:

    Kell you sure are a crybaby.

  104. raideredoutL.A. Says:

    come back

  105. priesttj Says:

    Yep! guess all the haters were right Russell’s fat, lazy, stupid doesn’t want to be great. Problems with his ‘BRAIN’ still love that one. Doesn’t study film accuracy problems that can’t get better.

    Will never be a leader, too nonchalant. All arm no head.

    As I said by midseason the league will know that the Raiders have one of the most dominant young QB’s in the game.

    Also it’s time I think that we can allow DHB his own book to write his own story. We haven’t played the 3rd preseason game yet and the writers are liningup to get on the bandwagon.

    What was that! did you say where’s Crabtree? Oh! WHAT ABOUT CRABTREE? Ummm! what about him?

  106. tazZraider Says:

    kool kell whatta you talkin about? that shit is relevant because al is the one that trained walsh in vertical offense and walsh learned and formed his own offense that he trained countless of other coaches which a lot of them use today. That shit is relevant dogg.

  107. priesttj Says:

    WHAT THE HELL!?! is a Crabtree anyway?

  108. Norco Bob Says:

    TJ I was told if you call fitz and brooks again Gary is done with you forever.

  109. Terrapin Says:

    Man ..watching Eagles vs Jags …I must say, compared to the Raiders these teams look sloooowwww.

    Vick looks rusty. But what can you expect. I feel good for the guy though. Its good to get your life back together.

  110. exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:

    FYI for Whiner fans. The Debartolos and his family past and present are and were mobsters.
    Quiche and wine my *ss.
    http://www.brasscheck.com/stadium/moldea.html

  111. Norco Bob Says:

    Eddie D is a mobster?…lol…he turned states evidence to feds in Lousiana…some mobster. lol

  112. Norco Bob Says:

    Jed is a mobster…lol…candy ass frat boy…some mobster. lol

  113. 4evaRaider Says:

    I sure wish those pit-bulls could get their life back together

  114. Terrapin Says:

    Well, potentially there goes the Jags season. Gerrard one the ground holding his neck – ….preseason! y

  115. exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:

    Norco Bob,
    Just read the article. I know it has no pictures but really try to concentrate. LOL

    Going to watch some preseason.

  116. Norco Bob Says:

    eddie d turned states evidence…nuff said

  117. Norco Bob Says:

    but i guess to an idiot like you hes al capone. lol

  118. priesttj Says:

    The DeBartolo’s are known criminals. Some of the bust on Eddie D Jr. are legendary in the West bay area, swept under the carpet. Some of the stuff makes what Vick did look like tiddly winks. He has never done a day in jail. When they ran that campaign for the new stradium is also legendary signing up dead people.

    Eddie D was lowest of scumbags.

  119. KoolKell Says:

    Eddie D has 5 SB rings.
    Al Davis has 3, nuff said. ;-)

  120. Norco Bob Says:

    Whats your point kell?

  121. Norco Bob Says:

    Is it,..some owners buy rings and others earn them?

  122. Norco Bob Says:

    Eddie d was given a team, given cash to blow,…all that,..some football guy.

  123. Norco Bob Says:

    and then they get kicked out of league and have to give team to little sis,..ya, eddie d is pretty impressive kell.

  124. Norco Bob Says:

    kell are you aware eddie d needs league permission to attend a game at candlestick?

  125. Norco Bob Says:

    which owners in hall of fame?

  126. Norco Bob Says:

    buying 5 rings doesnt get you in canton kell, sorry.

  127. Norco Bob Says:

    bil lwalsh deserves ALL THE CREDIT for niner success,..eddie d got what he deserved,…kicked out of league.

  128. KoolKell Says:

    I thought the bottom line with “you people” were Super Bowl rings.

    Well, Eddie D has 5.
    Al Davis has 3.

    Now, if the Raiders give up more than 150 yds on the ground Saturday, this year will be like the last 6.

  129. Norco Bob Says:

    Kell, you are a very limited man,..you cant seem to live beyond the past 6 years,…all that matters to you is the last 6 years,…thats too bad for you bud.

  130. priesttj Says:

    KK, take your grumpy ass over to the other side of Bay. Tired of your constant dumbass griping, everyone knows the past 6 years are horrrible we don’t need to be reminded every 5 minutes by you. Personally I’m excited about the next 6years.

    And so is everybody else it seems except you. So go somewhere else where you can be happy.

  131. Norco Bob Says:

    Poor MR,..now off to use other name in here,..he has a few, but the passwords are complicated,..takes a while ya MR?…lol

  132. Norco Bob Says:

    TJ,..Gary,..monday…ok?

  133. Norco Bob Says:

    TJ,..that Kell imposter is MR.

  134. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    And I don’t live in the past 6 years regarding Raider football. I will judge Al Davis by his entire body of work, and he spent the first 20 years with the Raiders doing everything right. Since then, he’s become reclusive and egotistical, and the team has paid. His enemy used to be the league and other teams, now it’s his own employees. The only glimpse of the 1963-1985 Al Davis I’ve seen in recent memory is when he hired Gruden in 1998. Other than that, he’s been an entirely different person. No longer a man who wants to win. Now just a man who wants those who question his power or expertise to lose. The past 6 years are just one part of his long career, but it’s still significant. Since we don’t have a GM and Al Davis the de facto GM, the 6 years is worthy of a conversation because no GM in professional sports would still have a job after 6 failed seasons. You can appreciate what Al Davis has done in the past, have ideas and points to make about the future, and still bring up the obvious fact that this football team is stuck with the same GM who’s failed the past 6 years, and probably won’t win until he retires.

  135. Norco Bob Says:

    Seek mental health care MR. lol

  136. Norco Bob Says:

    Next time you consider suicide MR,..which I bet is daily,..go for it,..nobody will even know youre gone. lol

  137. Norco Bob Says:

    MR,…come by our tailgate saturday,..brien will be there,..lots of booze,..pot…bar b q,..are you allowed out of the house on weekends?

  138. priesttj Says:

    Gotcha Bob!

  139. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    priest, rather it’s politics or sports pr, telling people they’re unhappy and to “cheer up”, etc., is the slogan of liars and shills trying to deflect criticism. To take a phrase from Norco Bob, you’re not fooling anyone.

  140. Norco Bob Says:

    Lol,..poor little mr,..all upset again. lol

  141. Norco Bob Says:

    MR,..I forgot,..hows things been for you the last six years again?…lol

  142. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    You’re right, Norco. I should kill myself because I don’t go to Raider games and drink with you and Brien. There’s no better cure for depression than pissing away a couple of hundred bucks on one of the worst teams in the NFL, and drowning yourself in pills and booze. Just cheers people right up. To be honest, Bob, reading your comments, I’m convinced you’re the one who’s bordering suicide. And I’ll tell you, DON’T do it. Get help first. Because your rock bottom is coming.

  143. Norco Bob Says:

    Aw,..MR crying now?….pooooor little baby. lol

  144. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Norco, yes, I’m upset. You win. What else?

  145. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Yes, I’m crying, Norco. I need my mommy. What else, coolest, hippest Raider fan in the world?

  146. Norco Bob Says:

    I will see you later MR,..and you will be here, it doesnt matter what name you use, we all know when its you,..cya! lol

  147. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    I will be here, Norco, because I have nothing better to do. You, on the other hand, will be in an RV with Dave and Brien driving to Cancun. you’re my hero.

  148. KoolKell Says:

    Why is it Moderator that Narco Bob can post all day, and I not allowed to even defend myself?

    You,re using that error message thingy to discrinate

  149. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    # Norco Bob Says:
    August 27th, 2009 at 4:57 pm

    Is it,..some owners buy rings and others earn them?

    …………

    No, I think his point is that some owners buy rings, while others hire title-less, ghost GMs like Ron Wolf to get them rings, then pretend they never existed and take credit for their work. At least DeBartolo doesn’t pretend to be something he’s not in regards to running an NFL franch.

  150. Richochet Says:

    tazZraider Says:
    August 27th, 2009 at 4:04 pm
    rickanuts
    before you start to keep on bashin brien the niners will be a sorry team if your greatest coach bill walsh hadn’t worked for al davis as a raiders ASSISTANT. Here I’ll show you
    “Walsh began his pro coaching career in 1966 as an assistant with the AFL’s Oakland Raiders. As a Raider assistant, Walsh was trained in the vertical passing offense favored by Al Davis”
    i bet you gonna come up with somethin stupid just like when peoiple i was ask you good questions that keep you moded but then you come up with stupid ass remarks.
    ———————————–
    I ALREADY addressed this.
    Can you read?
    Is it the comprehension part that stifles ya?
    Sid Gillman.
    Ever hear of him?
    Walsh has made it was Gillman and Brown that he learned about the NFL, NOT Al Davis.
    Walsh was asst running back coach, for the Raiders, in 1966.
    Running back, lol..not qb.
    AL DAVIS BECAME PART OWNER that year.
    John Rauch was the head coach of the Raiders in 66.
    Al Davis had NO IDEA who Bill Walsh was, and likely never talked directly to him.
    Walsh was directly under John Rauch.
    And what Walsh learned from Al Davis is THE SAME THING JOHN RAUCH LEARNED..that it was the absolute worst way to run an organization.

  151. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Kell, you can figure out why Norco posts with impunity as others are flagged for yourself. I’ve been hip to that for a long time now. This posting too quickly thing….how many web hits do you think the site gets overall by having people resend their comments several times a piece? Pretty obvious what’s going on.

  152. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Yeh, Taz, you can just see Bill Walsh’s admiration for Al Davis in his coaching. His entire career he did nothing but throw that deep ball, and play man to man defense.

  153. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    People base their theories of guys like Walsh and Madden admiring Al Davis based on the fact that they’ve never come out and bashed him publicly. It’s almost like saying a woman likes you, because she never said she didn’t. I think rapists work under this premise.

  154. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Ricochet, I haven’t been around all day. Did TazRaider put Al Davis at the top of the Bill Walsh coaching tree? Is that what he’s really trying to say in that comment?

  155. raidertbone Says:

    Hey Kell:
    Did it turn gay all of a sudden, up in here?

    Back to Raiders stuff — who is the number 3 guy right now: Graddy-boy or Frye?

  156. Richochet Says:

    No, he’s saying that while Walsh is a massive genius with all of those coaches on Walsh’s tree, Walsh would have never had a tree, at all, if not for Al.

    I simply informed him that asst RB coaches, under John Rauch, weren’t exactly being trained on the vertical game, at least not enough for Walsh to revolutionize the WC offense.

  157. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    And TazRaider, why are you demanding that people “let” you be excited about the upcoming season? You can be excited all you want to. We have our right to be pessimistic, too. Frankly, I find your excitement annoying. I’m the one who’s going to have to comfort you when reality hits in a few weeks.

  158. Thec07 Says:

    Actually its an error in the way the servers are configed with registration. A know problem. The sitr does not get credit for refreshes as they don’t post. Fuethermore sites are paid for unique hits. That means unique ip addy…

  159. Raiderwoj Says:

    He always spoke respectfully of Al, admired Al’s brains and guts. They had been friends a long time, and Walsh said Al taught him everything he knew about football. I think Paul Brown taught Walsh something, too.

    This an excerpt from an article written by Lowell Cohn, and his interviews with Bill Walsh on his death bed

  160. Richochet Says:

    Sorry Woj..but you would be wrong.

    Again..ONE YEAR Walsh was with the Raiders, as a RUNNING BACK ASST.

    Al had just left being commissioner and bought in the team at 10%.
    John Rauch was running the team, not Al.

    You look at Al’s philosphy on offense, and you look at Walsh’s..about as different as night and day.

  161. Raiderwoj Says:

    I be wrong? That was what WALsh said, not me. I just copied and pasted what WALSH said. See do you actually get that point, WALSH, as in BILL WALSH, said it. Shall i repeat that louder? BILL WALSH SAID IT NOT ME. So in fact you are stating that Bill Walsh is wrong in what he said about Al Davis. hhhmmmmmm……

  162. Raiderwoj Says:

    http://www.pressdemocrat.com/article/20090816/NEWS/908169975/1057/SPORTS0908?Title=Toolguy-here-s-your-answer

    link to the article, and it’s from an article where the writer actually says he’s a Raider\Al Davis hater, so it’s not like it’s comin from an Al Davis sac swinger.

  163. Raiderwoj Says:

    Rich

    It was a nice try though, make sure to run grammar and spell checks on my posts so when you realize you’re wrong(which I doubt) you can attack me on the finer points of the english language.

  164. raidertbone Says:

    Raiderwoj:
    When will you learn — never get involved in an argument with teenage girls!

  165. Raiderwoj Says:

    And one of the points that seems to escape you is that, Al and Bill were friends from the time they were with the Raiders till the day Bill died, but of course in your narrow little 40 whiner mind, that has nothing to do with AL being able to teach him everything he knows, since of course you can only teach another coach something if you coach for the same time, right? Has nothing to with being friends for 40 odd years.

  166. Raiderwoj Says:

    Raidertbone,

    Actually had some free time for once, and happened to read some of the statements this guy has made. So I thought I’d chime in. Thing is he thinks that post was my opinion, but it was actually what Bill Walsh told Cohn(a Raider Hater)on his death bed.

  167. RaiderRobG Says:

    I think The “Nature Boy” Ric Flair said it best…

    WHOO!!!…WHOO!!!

  168. Raider Dell Says:

    52.RaiderRockstar Says:
    August 27th, 2009 at 2:49 pm
    Dell: here ya go bro. no changes from here on out. it’s official

    QB: Russell, Garcia, Frye
    RB: McFadden, Bush, Fargas
    FB: O’Neal, Lawton
    WR: Heyward-Bey, Schilens, Murphy, Higgins, Walker
    TE: Miller, Myers, Stewart
    OL: Henderson, Barnes, Gallery, McQuistan, Satele, Wade, Morris, Carlisle, Green, Pears
    DL: Ellis, Scott, Shaughnessy, Richardson, Warren, Kelly, Boschetti, Joseph
    LB: Brown, Morrison, Howard, Alston, Ekejiuba, Norris, Williams
    CB: Asomugha, Johnson, Routt, Miller
    S: Eugene, Huff, Branch, Mitchell, Baker
    K/P: Janikowski, Lechler
    LS: Condo
    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

    RRS

    Here our my thoughts on the final 53.I will follow your, list with my changes.

    QB Gradkowski- instead of Frye.

    FB Russell-also can play HB and special teams.- instead of Lawton.

    WR-Add Miller-back up punt return and KO return for JLH.

    OL-Wade is left off add Johnson.-Morris can play back up center and long and short snap backup.Johnson can play guard and in a pinch RT.

    DL Add Bryant

    LB-Norris will be placed on IR.

    Practice squad will be interesting. Rankin, Reese, Boyd,Compas, Nixon, ? ?

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