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Did post-camp discipline elude Raiders?

By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Sunday, August 30th, 2009 at 7:00 pm in Oakland Raiders.

News and notes from Sunday’s conference call with Raiders coach Tom Cable a day after a 45-7 loss to the New Orleans Saints:

– In the aftermath of Saturday’s disaster, veteran defensive end Greg Ellis openly wondered if his teammates were taking their profession seriously enough as in getting the proper rest and being physically and mentally prepared to play a game.

“Guys, you can’t stay out all night. Can’t expect to come in here and just turn it on,” Ellis said. “This isn’t high school or college football. This is the best of the best in the NFL. So you’ve got to do the small things that maybe you didn’t have to do in college.”

Cable said he wasn’t aware of any raging Friday night parties that included his players, but conceded he didn’t know there weren’t any, either.

“The one thing as a coach that you’re always leery of is breaking camp because then they get home, they don’t have curfew, don’t have those kinds of things, and so as grown men we’ve got to handle those distractions, and to take care of our bodies and stay focused on what we’re trying to do,” Cable said.

– Probably unfair to single out Mario Henderson, but on his Twitter page in recent days he detailed a Burger King binge that astute readers figured out totaled more than 6,400 calories, and in a recent tweet said he ate an entire box of Frosted Flakes the morning of the Saints game. All after being serious about his diet for six months in preparing to become the team’s left tackle.

– Cable wasn’t calling the Saints game a setback, but it sure wasn’t a step in the right direction, either.

“We’re looking at the film hard, obviously,” Cable said. “We just reverted to a lot of old bad habits in a couple of areas. So (we) just have to think that through and make some good decisions here in the next 24 hours as to the right approach for this week.”

At the end of last season, in the afterglow of two surprising wins to close the season, Cable spoke of working to change the losing culture of the locker room and said, “I thought it was a mouse when I took over but it really was an elephant.”

Cable sounded surprised that Dumbo has returned.

“The only good thing here is it didn’t count against us, but there’s much to learn from it and you’ve got to make that a good thing,” Cable said. “We were making progress in a number of areas, and to revert back, I think everyone’s going to take notice of that . . . it’s a tough lesson. It’s ridiculous to have to go through it, but we did. So now we’ve got to approach it, `This is what it is, there ain’t no getting around this. And we’re going to go from here in terms of staying the course and keeping up with the investment that we’ve put forth.”

– Wide receiver Darrius Heyward-Bey, after catching an opening slant for 12 yards, had two other passes thrown his way and no receptions despite playing well into the third quarter. Cable said it is because the Saints were leaning toward him in coverage, something he anticipates will happen with every team on the schedule.”

– Whatever the Raiders’ problems were on defense, Cable said they didn’t include Tommy Kelly.

“It would not be fair for anyone to really question or devalue what he’s done the last two weeks,” Cable said. “They’re really not able to run to his side if you look at it.”

– Cable was non-committal regarding the future of Terdell Sands while talking up the weekly improvement of Desmond Bryant, the undrafted free agent out of Harvard.

“He continues to do it. He continues to get better. He’s moving to the football, had one sack, missed another one,” Cable said. “He’s got the big body, he’s got the want-to, and he’s allowing his coach to take him where he’s trying to go.”

Cable was asked if it was the end of the line for Sands as a Raider.

“I don’t know that yet. It’s too early for all that,” Cable said. “It’s just where we were at in terms of rotation. We didn’t expect to play the first group as long as we did in the second half. Butwe had to, and bsaed on the rotation and the way it all worked out, (we) just ran out of time.”

– According to a year-old salary roster, Sands is due a $1.3 million salary this year and was scheduled to receive a $1.9 million roster bonus which he may have already been paid. The Raiders don’t get that back.

– If Jonathan Holland’s 43-yard touchdown reception wowed Cable, he was keeping his enthusiasm under wraps.

“There’s a lot of competition and he was fortunate to make a guy miss there,” Cable said. “That’s what you expect your receivers to do.”

– No word yet regarding Saturday’s new injuries, including a “chip fracture” to the left wrist of Nnamdi Asomugha and a stinger sustained by safety Rashad Baker. Javon Walker received limited play because Cable said they wanted to ease him back in.”

– A pretty shaky performance from the offensive line overall, with the Raiders continuing to get calls for illegal formations and false starts.

“The illegal formations, we have had that issue through all three games where the tackle has not been far enough up on the line of scrimmage and it’s ben addressed and it will continue to be addressed,” Cable said. “The false starts, that’s just a lack of focus of focus.”

Offensive lineman, Cornell Green in particular, have been nailed for illegal formations while trying to create extra space to deal with a speed rusher on a passing down.

– The Raiders have just two practices before a Wednesday walkthrough and leaving for Seattle, where they play Thursday night. The first roster cut down to 75 is Tuesday and some players could be released Monday.

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  • OAKlifer

    VNorco Bob Says:
    August 31st, 2009 at 8:46 am
    nolifer, Im not here that much, it just seems that way because my posts are the best and it only seems like Im always here.

    Norco Bob Says:
    August 31st, 2009 at 8:47 am
    nolifer when you post its immidiatly forgotten, mine get talked about for hours, makes it seem like Im always here,..but you are actually, you loser.

    ****************************

    No ur here…LOL

  • RaiderRockstar

    Kool-Aid. sorry

    AZ: who were our 3 most impressive defensive performers on Saturday?

  • OAKlifer

    OAKlifer: sorry I wasn’t able to join your fantasy football league bro. I tried

    did you fill the last 2 remaining spots?

    ******

    Alll good brother maybe next year we have one league wioth 12 teams but that is plenty there were two spots left no takers..I know you tried not sure WTF was going on…either way…

    The only Kool Aid I have which The Nation seems 50-50 split on is the progression of Russell that is the only gleam of light I can see at this point…

  • kidseven

    It was depressing in here Saturday night, but I knew if I waited until Monday someone would have brewed up a fresh new batch of kool-aid. Delicious.

  • PassTheCheetos

    # Florida Pete Says:
    August 31st, 2009 at 8:14 am

    PassTheCheetos Says:
    August 31st, 2009 at 8:04 am
    I was impressed with Louis Murphy, yes i know he dropped two balls that would have been first downs and fumbled another one. Rookies make mistakes. Had he caught those two balls we’d be talking about what a good game he had, had he not fumbled also, we’d be saying he had an amazing game. Point is, if he can cut down on the rookie mistakes he can be very special this year. I know a lot of people are hoping Javon steps it up and can hopefully soften the loss of Chaz, but really I think our best bet is hoping Murphy can cut down on the rookie mistakes. I think by the time Schilens comes back from his injury, him and Murphy will make a formidable duo at the wide out position.

    ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

    think about that…

    Murphy catches those 2 balls… Jamarcus is 14 for 18…

    doesn’t fumble and Jam’s yardage numbers go into the 200s… (with the 2 additional catches)…

    Murphy is still a trainee… but he needs to catch and hang on to those balls…

    Jam had a much better day than people give him credit for… the fumble simply wasn’t his fault… (that’s right, i said it… go ahead and hammer me!!!)…

    i’m not saying Murphy shouldn’t start… but they need him to focus, get his confidence up, and keep an eye on him…
    ======================================================
    Thats exactly what im talking about. Throw in the pass Higgins dropped and that could have easily been an extra thirty to forty yards. Besides that i think there was a lot more dimensions to our offense than they were showing. I cant remember if they lined up mcfadden at receiver. But im sure they will do that more often in the season, and i really expect us to be doing a few more reverses per game, the one we did was to Murphy, but i expect most of them will go to Bey and possibly to mcfadden when hes split out wide. I think the offense will have some interesting looks in the season. I think Cable may use quite a bit of trickery during the season, much like the dolphins of last year. We got the personnel and speed to do just about anything if we execute. I really want us to go out and pull out all the tricks against the bolts in the opener.

  • kidseven

    The Raiders were only several non-fumbles, made catches, broken tackles, made tackles, better play calls, and closed Burger Kings from beating the Saints. Hope we catch some breaks versus the Chargers.

  • PassTheCheetos

    that called mcfadden fumble was clearly not a fumble. it came out way to late, and you could see on the replay that his knee was down.

  • RaiderRockstar

    Andrew Walter with the Pats-

    Game 1: 5 of 9 for 62 yards
    Game 2: did not play
    Game 3: did not play

    ***

    What has AW done in New England to make him an upgrade over Kevin O’Connell?

  • PassTheCheetos

    last game i saw pats play o’connel was ahead of walter.

  • OAKlifer

    o connel was released and… the only thign Walter has done or will do was dominate the PAC -10……THATS IT….

  • Raider Dell

    What’s up Raider Men!

    I had a good time last night drafting in the FFL. I had four drafts on Sunday, all of them back to back.

    Thanks OakLifer for being the commish on both leagues. Let’s have some fun and may the best or shall I say luckiest guy win.

    RaiderRockstar

    Hope all is well in God’s country.

    I commented on Friday, right after you left the blog with my 53 man roster. I didn’t wus out, so go back and check it out.

    Dakota,

    I was offered to buy a 9mm Glock, I currently have Sig Sauer hand guns, I have the 9mm, 40, and 45. The glock feels lighter , what do you think.

    Brien

    When you pop in, I hope i’m in the blog to tell you what happen Saturday.

  • PassTheCheetos

    even then Usc was better than arizona st.

  • OAKlifer

    No prob Dell,

    Yeah I had two drafts yesterday….both the ones in here..we had a good turn out both times!!! GOOD LUCK NATION!!!!!

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAaQNACwaLw Raider75

    What is this we need to focus on us crap? We are not the Raiders. This is just a discussion board.

    And YES I do think its funny that the Chiefs fired their Offensive Coordinator 2 weeks before the season starts.

    If that had been Oakland all we would hear about is how dysfunctional the organization is for firing the Offensive Coordinator right before the start of the season.

    Yet, somehow you guys are making that out to be a plaus for the Chiefs.

    You guys crack me up.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAaQNACwaLw Raider75

    * plus *

  • Florida Pete

    i like the word “plaus”…

  • RaiderRockstar

    75:

    you saw the chiefs offense last year with Gailey running the show …

    you saw the cardinals offense last year with Haley running the show …

    you really think thats a bad move on KC’s part?

  • angelodebo

    Preist..we’ve been rebulding for 5 yrs..and honestly..we look worse now than ever! Our defense is going to be ranked last in the league..You think that is improvement?

    Our starting QB..looks ok at best. I’ve watched Matthew Stafford, M. Ryan, J. Flacco, Mark Sanchez and they all look further along than J. Russel! Why is that? Coaching? Ownership?

    This team is rotten from the Top—->Bottom

  • OAKlifer

    What is this we need to focus on us crap? We are not the Raiders. This is just a discussion board.

    ****
    WE ARE PART OF THE RAIDER NATION AND OUR DEDICATION FAR OUTWAYS EVERY FAN IN THE WORLD!!!! Disscussion board I BLEED SILVER AND BLACK….I embrace this team

    WIN LOSE OR TIE IM A RAIDER TILL I DIE!!!!!!

    Get with the program we arnt just some fly bynight fan foundation WE ARE THE NATION…..

    ROLL CALL ALL NATION MEMBERS!!!!!!!!

  • PassTheCheetos

    # angelodebo Says:
    August 31st, 2009 at 10:00 am

    Preist..we’ve been rebulding for 5 yrs..and honestly..we look worse now than ever! Our defense is going to be ranked last in the league..You think that is improvement?

    Our starting QB..looks ok at best. I’ve watched Matthew Stafford, M. Ryan, J. Flacco, Mark Sanchez and they all look further along than J. Russel! Why is that? Coaching? Ownership?

    This team is rotten from the Top—->Bottom
    ======================================================
    I’d take Russel over Stafford and Sanchez, maybe thats just me.

  • OAKlifer

    ROLL CALL ALL NATION MEMBERS!!!!!!!!

    ****HERE******,

    OAKlifer

  • angelodebo

    Cheetos, Have you watched Staffor or Sanchez? Both qb’s are great presence in the pocket..they look far more fluid in their motions and deliver the ball w/o hesitation.

    Did you watch Russel..hold on to the ball for about 9 seconds and get stripped from behind? That is something that would happen to a high school QB. I’ve yet to see Sanches/Stafford look that inept in the pocket

  • Richochet

    1. Raider75 Says:
    August 31st, 2009 at 9:54 am
    What is this we need to focus on us crap? We are not the Raiders. This is just a discussion board.
    And YES I do think its funny that the Chiefs fired their Offensive Coordinator 2 weeks before the season starts.
    If that had been Oakland all we would hear about is how dysfunctional the organization is for firing the Offensive Coordinator right before the start of the season.
    Yet, somehow you guys are making that out to be a plaus for the Chiefs.
    You guys crack me up.
    If something isn’t working, either you fix it, or replace it. LAST THING you need to do is have another “Bed and Breakfast” Walsh coach on board, who hasn’t a clue, it’s obvious he doesn’t have a clue, yet the team that hired the guy keeps him all year long.

    By your account, even though it was obvious to the GM and the HC that the O coor wasn’t buying into what they wanted to do, they should just allow him to game plan, and butt heads all year? Now THAT’S dysfunctional.

    Here..want more examples of moronic dysfunctional coaching hire/fire decisions?

    Last year during the offseason a HC was obviously on his way out. Massive head butts with the owner. Guy knew he was going to be fired. Coaches knew. Players knew. Beat writers knew..yet instead of firing the guy, and starting off the season fresh, the idiot owner decided to keep him around for 3 months, with the sole intent of trying to get something/anything from the guy so he could fire him without having to pay him his salary. Owner torched the WHOLE SEASON trying to save the equivalent of LESS THAN 1 PERCENT OF HIS TOTAL OUTLAY FOR THE YEAR..

    Now..THAT is dysfunctional.

    Who was that guy?

  • Richochet

    Norco Bob Says:
    August 31st, 2009 at 8:47 am
    nolifer when you post its immidiatly forgotten, mine get talked about for hours, makes it seem like Im always here,..but you are actually, you loser.
    ====================
    Well, let’s see.
    You posted that an hour ago.

    And here I am, one hour later, laughing at you for being a cotton ball.

    Yesterday, hours after you posted, I recall muttering “this is like some giddy little school girl, just pining for attention, albeit negative, and then skipping around a tree, singing “goody goody, someone is playing with me”.

    Doesn’t matter that the actual “playing” was you getting slapped down..it’s attention.

    so yeah, you would be right..”hours later” you’re still being laughed at.

    Congrats. Aren’t you just the big boy? *pat on head*

  • AZ Raider

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    August 31st, 2009 at 9:08 am
    Kool-Aid. sorry

    AZ: who were our 3 most impressive defensive performers on Saturday?
    ……………………………………………….

    Desmond Bryant
    Desmond Bryant
    Tommy Kelly beleive it or not. Watch the game, Cable was right.

  • RaiderRockstar

    so lets get this over with …

    IF Russell turns in a bad year, who are we going to blame?

    A. Al Davis
    B. Tom Cable
    C. Ted Tollner
    D. Paul Hackett
    E. the WR’s
    F. the O-Line
    G. Jeff Garcia

    you’ll notice Russell is not an option. He’s on the Raider Nation’s scholarship program … cast your vote now !!!

  • 860Todd Christensen

    <<<<<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

  • AZ Raider

    ALL LINEBACKERS WHERE LINESLACKERS!!!!

    ALL OF THEM SUCKED A BIG BALL! DREW TARGETED THEM ALL GAME WITH SHORT PASSES IN THE MIDDLE OF THEM ALL!

  • 860Todd Christensen

    HERE!

  • AZ Raider

    OAKlifer Says:
    August 31st, 2009 at 10:03 am
    ROLL CALL ALL NATION MEMBERS!!!!!!!!

    ****HERE******,

    OAKlifer
    …………………………………………..

    HERE

  • Richochet

    OAKlifer Says:
    August 31st, 2009 at 10:00 am
    What is this we need to focus on us crap? We are not the Raiders. This is just a discussion board.

    ****
    WE ARE PART OF THE RAIDER NATION AND OUR DEDICATION FAR OUTWAYS EVERY FAN IN THE WORLD!!!! Disscussion board I BLEED SILVER AND BLACK….I embrace this team

    WIN LOSE OR TIE IM A RAIDER TILL I DIE!!!!!!

    Get with the program we arnt just some fly bynight fan foundation WE ARE THE NATION…..

    ROLL CALL ALL NATION MEMBERS!!!!!!!!
    ==========================
    You are aware that posts like this show you aren’t…uh…what’s the word I’m looking for????…

    Oh yeah…”mature”.

    Silly rah rah is Jr. High stuff…high school at best.
    College’s chant for the team, but “roll call nation members”??
    What’s next? If someone doesn’t “chant along like a baffoon” they’re NOT “actual true diehard Raider fans”?

    See, EVERY teams fans believe THEY are the most loyal. Biggest diehards. Live and breathe their team. As they should.
    Most are foolish enough to state they’re the ONLY ONES who feel that way.

    Now here’s a harsh reality check.

    Raider Nation? (as compared to the RedSox Nation, which has been around a lot longer, Steeler Nation, which is actually documented LONG before Raider Nation was coined…etc..etc.) that “NATION” you refer to is actually not a nation, but a small, pretty much deserted island.
    Raiders have the most blackouts, in the last ten years, OF ANY NFL TEAM..the most. Means Raider fans don’t show up and support their team. How else do you measure it?

    Yeah, yeah, “there are Raider fans everywhere”..
    Dude, they’re are Cowboy fans everywhere too..and I see Giant fans everywhere..EVERY GAME PLAYED AT EVERY STATIUM, EVERY WEEK has a whole slew of the away teams fans in the seats..so..all it comes down to is how do you support your team in YOUR HOUSE.

    Raider fans are at the very bottom of the list.

    Pretty hokey stuff, lifer.

  • OAKlifer

    Desmond Bryant
    *****************

    Is good but he is a speed rusher look at the dude looks like a TE next to warren or kelly…..WE NEED TO STOP THE RUN WE NEED A HUGE FAT FAST FAT MEAN UGLY FAT FAST RABID FAT NT that can stop the run…..

    Double R,

    I’ll blame the O line…LOL

    This it I say Russell gets all this year and all of next before we pass judgement but by then it will be sink or swim…if he is doing bad this year and bad into the next year I say pull him but let the kid get his chance to lead the team….

  • Richochet

    AZ Raider Says:
    August 31st, 2009 at 10:21 am
    OAKlifer Says:
    August 31st, 2009 at 10:03 am
    ROLL CALL ALL NATION MEMBERS!!!!!!!!

    ****HERE******,

    OAKlifer
    …………………………………………..

    HERE

    ==============
    LMFAO…

    I’ll bet you raised your hand, too, didn’t you?

    “ya’s dude..I’m a Raider nation fan”.

    Did you think some would wonder IF you didn’t put your hand up?

    I just love the “lemming effect” some of you subscribe to.

    Almost cute..in it’s way.

    All I can say, Az..is “you go, girl”.

  • Crimedog

    Typical with anything bad with the Raiders its blown out of proportion and anything good is not mentioned. It was a preseason game, right? Wasn’t that Cowboys game a preseason game? We got blown out in the opener last year against SD and everyone thought we were the worst team in the league. Then, we came back and beat the Chiefs the next week. We’ll be fine. At least we have some guys on the team willing to call out some people on the team.

  • CJ Legend 34

    I think our issues are the same as last year. You consider the order:

    1) To many Penalties
    2) O-line starting the season cold
    3) Defense no heart! They don’t like contact.

    I can’t put more emphasis on the defense being late to the ball and not wanting to hit. Look at all the arm tackling they did with no pop!! What so ever. These punks in black are heartless!!!

  • OAKlifer

    EVERY GAME PLAYED AT EVERY STATIUM, EVERY WEEK has a whole slew of the away teams fans in the seats..so..all it comes down to is how do you support your team in YOUR HOUSE.

    Raider fans are at the very bottom of the list.

    Pretty hokey stuff, lifer.

    **********************************8

    LOL well if you made 6 games last year then you beat me if not Im not on that “un-support” list…listen wishy washy punk fans like you deserve the LA clippers and some USFL team I go to every home game I can Support the team through merchandise. And even have Sunday ticket for away games….If you think its highs-cooler of me to say things like win lose or tie Raider till I die you just dont get it…never have and never will…..

  • Richochet

    OAKlifer Says:
    August 31st, 2009 at 10:22 am
    Desmond Bryant
    *****************

    Is good but he is a speed rusher look at the dude looks like a TE next to warren or kelly…..WE NEED TO STOP THE RUN WE NEED A HUGE FAT FAST FAT MEAN UGLY FAT FAST RABID FAT NT that can stop the run…..

    Double R,

    I’ll blame the O line…LOL

    This it I say Russell gets all this year and all of next before we pass judgement but by then it will be sink or swim…if he is doing bad this year and bad into the next year I say pull him but let the kid get his chance to lead the team….
    ===================
    That’s why you’re an official idiot.

    NOW you think Russell should get 4 FULL YEARS IN THE NFL to decide?

    Are you new at this?

    First year is learning the system. He got to sit his fatass all year long to learn..then got babied into the games..then handed the reins in his second year.
    Now it’s his 3 year, and you want this AND NEXT YEAR??

    What you’re saying is YOU ACCEPT THE FACT YOU THINK HE’S GOING TO TOTALLY SUCK THIS YEAR..so..you want to avoid copping to it until one more year.

    Yeah, lol, fool…anyone who states that is stating loud and clear RUSSELL IS GOING TO SUCK THIS YEAR….DAMN..I HOPE NEXT YEAR IS BETTER.

    Yep, you’re weak.

  • Thec07

    Wonder what impact it would have on the team if JRUSS

    1. Rip into someone when they f up?
    2. Come into camp in shape?
    3. Be more vocal(dont want to hear its not his style)
    4. Set an example, cut partying while in season.
    5. Become 65 million dollar serious about this team.

    Look at all the QB’s manning, rivers, brady do they exude any of the above traits as a leader….

    I read where JRUSS said he leads by example, on the contrary if he would lead by example he would have come into camp in shape.

  • AZ Raider

    What are you in here blabbing about now Rackoshit?

    Damn your pathetic. What do you get out of posting here? I’ve never seen such a loser.

  • Richochet

    OAKlifer Says:
    August 31st, 2009 at 10:27 am
    EVERY GAME PLAYED AT EVERY STATIUM, EVERY WEEK has a whole slew of the away teams fans in the seats..so..all it comes down to is how do you support your team in YOUR HOUSE.

    Raider fans are at the very bottom of the list.

    Pretty hokey stuff, lifer.

    **********************************8

    LOL well if you made 6 games last year then you beat me if not Im not on that “un-support” list…listen wishy washy punk fans like you deserve the LA clippers and some USFL team I go to every home game I can Support the team through merchandise. And even have Sunday ticket for away games….If you think its highs-cooler of me to say things like win lose or tie Raider till I die you just dont get it…never have and never will…..
    =======================
    No, saying “Raider Nation roll call” is hokey as hell, and juvenile.

    Wait..you live in the bay area? Go to every home game?

  • OAKlifer

    Richochet Says:
    August 31st, 2009 at 10:24 am

    ==============
    LMFAO…

    I’ll bet you raised your hand, too, didn’t you?

    ***************

    NO WE STOOD UP SOMETHING YOU DNT HAVE THE BALLS TO DO !!!!!!!!

  • Richochet

    AZ Raider Says:
    August 31st, 2009 at 10:31 am
    What are you in here blabbing about now Rackoshit?

    Damn your pathetic. What do you get out of posting here? I’ve never seen such a loser.
    =======================
    LMAO..awwww..someone get their widdle feelings hurt?

    Hey..funny seeing a supposed adult wave his hand, screaming “I’m in…lifer..I’M IN..I’M IN THE NATION.”

    How old are you?
    Hey, no shame in being a kid.

    When you get older you’ll look back and laugh..and say ‘yeah, I was a dumb kid”..and you’ll grow from it.

    so?? what? 16? 17?

  • PassTheCheetos

    angelodebo did you see both stafford and sanchez get picked off, because Russel still hasnt been intercepted.

  • 860Todd Christensen

    …53…BLACK,SILVER,and PROUD!

  • Thec07

    We have 1 professional tackle football player and stand up guy in Greg Ellis. We also have 52 flag useless football players.

  • AZ Raider

    Pushmyshit,

    Hey our 1st round pick only caught 1 pass for 12 yards on Saturday. That’s 1 catch and 12 more yards than Crabtree has had all of the preseason.

    Get out of here until your team can get it’s picks signed or you can win your lousy ass division. C’mon, Arizona? Seattle? St. Louis? Who should be more embarrassed?

    And don’t give me that…”But the Cardinals went to the SB” bullshyt cause you know they aren’t that good.

    Niner fans have alot of nerve coming in here talking shyt with their own franchise in just as fukt up. Maybe a little more fukt up, since they throw away first round picks.

  • AZ Raider

    Richochet Says:
    August 31st, 2009 at 10:34 am
    AZ Raider Says:
    August 31st, 2009 at 10:31 am
    What are you in here blabbing about now Rackoshit?

    Damn your pathetic. What do you get out of posting here? I’ve never seen such a loser.
    =======================
    LMAO..awwww..someone get their widdle feelings hurt?

    Hey..funny seeing a supposed adult wave his hand, screaming “I’m in…lifer..I’M IN..I’M IN THE NATION.”

    How old are you?
    Hey, no shame in being a kid.

    When you get older you’ll look back and laugh..and say ‘yeah, I was a dumb kid”..and you’ll grow from it.

    so?? what? 16? 17?
    ……………………………………………..

    OK so read above and tell me who sounds like they are on the playground making fun of a kid on the swing?

    LMFAO!

    You do it to yourself… What a tool.

  • Richochet

    OAKlifer Says:
    August 31st, 2009 at 10:31 am
    Richochet Says:
    August 31st, 2009 at 10:24 am

    ==============
    LMFAO…

    I’ll bet you raised your hand, too, didn’t you?

    ***************

    NO WE STOOD UP SOMETHING YOU DNT HAVE THE BALLS TO DO !!!!!!!!
    —————————-
    No, you acted like little juvenile children, who actually believe they’re a better fan if they follow along like little sheep.

    Geez dude..the “We’re the Nation”??? Our dedication far outweighs every other fan in the world”???

    Isn’t that extremely juvenile to you?

    If you are a juvenile, it won’t seem to be.

    Like I said, raider fans are the least supportive fans in the NFL..supporting the most dysfunctional organization in the NFL..bar none

    Everyone knows this.

    Saying you’re something, when in fact you’re far from it, is silly.
    Sometimes reality bites.

  • AZ Raider

    Your still mad you’ve been getting punkt in here for like a week straight? I’m putting you back on my ingnore list kido.

  • CJ Legend 34

    Come on fellas stop acting like the typical Raiders fan that the media portrays. Every time we have a big loss instead of placing the blame where it belongs on the players. We start coming after each other, calling out NO fan support!!!! Blah, blah, blah!!!!

    Howie Long, Ronnie Lott, Art Shell (the player, Rod Woodson, Marcus Allen, Bo Jackson, Gannon.

    They would have played with no one in the d@mn stands!!! That is what real players with heart do!!! This is not the team of the past they have along way to go.

    P.S. Grow up and start talking about the real games that you watch instead of la-la-land ball. If you missed they played like garbage..period!!!!