Cable pleased with practice rebound
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Monday, August 31st, 2009 at 3:33 pm in Oakland Raiders.
JaMarcus Russell has met the enemy _ and it wasn’t the New Orleans Saints.
“You know how they say you shoot yourself in the foot?,” Russell said Monday following the Raiders’ practice session. “I think our foot would be off by now.”
Since the Raiders were able to practice without their entire team sidelined by self-inflicted buckshot wounds, we can assume the damage was only to their psyche. Coach Tom Cable was of the opinion he horror of a 45-7 beatdown in front of the home fans was motivation in itself.
“Right now I am excited about the fact that we really show a lot of remorse about, one,our effort, just a lack of attention to detail, all the things that we put out on the field,” Cable said. We talked about being embarrassed about it but we’re taking responsibility for it. I think that’s a big step for us.”
Cable said he didn’t need to remind many people of what happened.
“This was not like in the past, where it was been almost rying to pull it back out of ‘em,” Cable said.
More news, notes and quotes:
– Maybe I’m reading too much into it, but Cable’s reaction when asked about the “chip fracture” sustained by Nnamdi Asomugha makes it sound as if it could be worse than it was portrayed following the game. Asomugha watched practice from the sideline, then was off to see a specialist.
“We don’t have any update. We should have something tomorrow,” Cable said. “(We) just want to make sure the chip is not displaced or anything like that.”
When asked if surgery was a possibility, Cable said, “We don’t know that . . . they’re going this afternoon with a specialist to see exactly what the procedure will be.
Cable caught himself whenhe realized how “procedure” sounded, and added, “When I say procedure, I mean in terms of rehabbing it so we don’t know anything it.”
Asomugha was injured making a tackle on the Saints’ second offensive play.
– Let’s go ahead and assume Samson Satele, signed to be the replacement for Jake Grove, hasn’t worked out as expected.
Not when Cable said Satele is in a three-way race with John Wade and Chris Morris to be the starting center. And Wade took the field for the first time since Aug. 13 after recovering from a stinger.
There are things that I like and there are some things I don’t feel like he’s getting it quick enough,” Cable said of Satele, noting that line calls have been a problem.
Said Satele: I’m comfortable. I’ve got the offense down, but I’m still learning on the way, still have a lot to learn, and I’m more comfortable than I first was.”
Morris said his first task is always to be ready at both guard positions and center, and that he’s entering his fourth season because of that versatility. But he also noted, “Shoot, I’m looking to start. That’s what all three of us are trying to do right now.”
Satele, as well as the right side of the line with Cooper Carlisle and Cornell Green, have been shaky through three games, although Carlisle and Green appear secure as starters.
– Safety Mike Mitchell, with one more good day of rehab on his pulled hamstring, could make it back to practice Wednesday. At least that what he’s hoping.
“I wanted to play this Thursday, but they said the opener is more important, which it is,” Mitchell said. “So, that’s now my focus. I’m for sure going to play in the opener. It’s been almost three weeks now, and I’m almost at 100 percent. I really wanted to try to get some game experience before that game, but it’s what I got to do. And I’ll be ready for it when it comes.”
Although Mitchell hurt his hamstring before his first Pro Day, in minicamp and again at training camp, he said he is not concerned it will happen again.
“I’m not going to be going out there worrying about my hamstring,” Mitchell said. “I’m going to go out there and play. If it happens again, it happens again. But the way I feel right now, I feel strong, moving good, I don’t see it happening again.”
– Exactly how Mitchell will be used, should he return, remains to be seen. He arrived to the Raiders late because his Ohio University class hadn’t graduated, and twice he’s been hurt.
Mitchell conceded he would probably get a lot of special teams work because Tyvon Branch has established himself as the starting strong safety.
Cable said it would be possible to integrate Mitchell into some specialty packages in the secondary before the opener.
– Sounds as if Chris Johnson has pulled away in the competition to start opposite Asomugha (assuming Asomugha is good to go for the opener.
“Chris has had a terrific camp,” Cable said. “Stanford has had a couple of struggles.”
– Cable said he hadn’t yet determined how much starters would play against Seattle Thursday night. He did say defensive end Matt Shaughnessy, who missed both the 49ers and Saints games with a foot sprain, would get significant playing time.
– Linebacker Kirk Morrison put on his uniform and a cumbersome brace to protect dislocated left elbow, but didn’t practice in team sessions. He won’t face Seattle but expects to play in Week 1.
– The Raiders cut wide receivers Shawn Bayes and Will Franklin, defensive tackle Joe Cohen, center Jonathan Compas and guard Marcus Johnson. Teams have to be at 75 players Tuesday.
– Shane Lechler isn’t practice and won’t kick against Seattle but is expected to be ready for the opener. S Rashad Baker (stinger), LB Slade Norris (calf strain), CB Justin Miller (turf toe), RB Justin Fargas (hamstring), WR Chaz Schilens (broken foot), T Khalif Barnes (ankle) all joined Asomugha and Mitchell on the sidelines.
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August 31st, 2009 at 3:34 pm
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August 31st, 2009 at 3:43 pm
jamarcus needs to be cut. today.
August 31st, 2009 at 3:44 pm
I believe the beatdown they got may only serve to wake this team up and push them. Find the real leaders on the team.
Found one this offseason.
Thats optimistic, of course, but its better they got this outta their system in August as oppsoed to September 14th – January.
Jamarcus is not getting cut. That leaves us with an over-the-hill QB with happy feet. Garcia has everything that Russell needs, but Russell has a few things Garcia doesn’t, all physical attributes.
I’m nowhere near ready to write him off yet.
August 31st, 2009 at 3:45 pm
Also get rid of that old man marshall,..has he ever been involved with D before?
August 31st, 2009 at 3:49 pm
**Jamarcus is not getting cut. That leaves us with an over-the-hill QB with happy feet. Garcia has everything that Russell needs (intangibles, work ethic, fire), but Russell has a few things Garcia doesn’t have, all physical attributes (height, stability, pocket presence, cannon arm).
They did a breakdown of Russell on NFL Network, which many of you probably caught.
Biggest thing was reps. He needs more reps, and thats just what Cable has given and will give him.
A sure-handed WR would certainly help. That guy is probably Chaz, but if Murphy grabs some Stickum, and Miller continues to be Miller, he’ll be fine.
August 31st, 2009 at 3:49 pm
Russell sucks and so do whats left of his supporters.
August 31st, 2009 at 3:52 pm
You guys this is all part of the plan..Did you know they got there buts kick in preseason in 2002 same score 45-7 and that was the year they went to a super bowl…this game is a big mind freak the raiders are playing possum and the other teams are falling for it.. trust me how could you just kick Dallas’s ass out of know where to play like that with N.O…. think about it guys its all planed out
August 31st, 2009 at 3:56 pm
Im still pumped about the Monday night opener but it scares the hell out of me.
August 31st, 2009 at 3:59 pm
If its planned, they’re pulling it off better than the JFK conspiracy, because they had a stellar practice, a carefully planned walk through and played the starters most of the game.
I don’t think you plan on letting Brees roll over you on three straight drives on national television or plan on Murphy dropping two and fumbling another one.
It would be something, though. Certainly would catch the football world off guard.
I think that DHB, Murphy, Walker, N. MIller, and Bryant all need to see some serious PT in Seattle.
I know we want to rest starters, keep them off the field to avoid injury, but these guys need all the reps they can get, especially DHB.
As I said earlier, who cares if the guy gets double teamed every play? If you have no time in the pocket to pass or if your Z can’t hold on to the ball, whats the point?
The greats all got double teamed and still caught (75-100) balls.
August 31st, 2009 at 4:01 pm
I think the offense will be better if for no other reason McFadden will be taking part in it unlike last season. Also when Schilens returns we should be atleast solid in the passin game.
I’m very worried about the defense though. It’s interesting how terrible it has been without Morrison. Maybe there is more to his presence than how many plays he makes in the backfield.
August 31st, 2009 at 4:04 pm
Im glad we got our ass kicked so that we can re focus.
i hope desmond bryant starts. because, i hate gerrad and the turd.
We need BETTER PASS RUSH.
Jeez, if we dont have morrison or asomugha, our 2 captians on defense to start against the chargers… awww mama.
another thing. i hate cornell green and mike mitchell cant play coverage. from what i have been reading.
August 31st, 2009 at 4:04 pm
Gawd please let them break .500 this year…
August 31st, 2009 at 4:07 pm
I hope the pressure we got on bress was us “playing Possum”, if not rushing 4 isnt going to cut it.
Brees had all day to throw. Zero press on him what so ever.
August 31st, 2009 at 4:08 pm
Teams looks soft period. Alot better change come Sept 14th.
It is sure funny some individuals are using stats to justify Russell’s play lol. Guys stop living in a dream world if you think he a postseason QB as of now. No playoffs means he isnt a leader! He isn’t leading this team at all. Being the number one pick means hall of famer, super bowl champion, mvp and constant all pro. You guys see that as of now?
The organization just fuks up time and time again with its signings and drafts. Guys are starting on this team that shouldnt make a CFL roster. But go ahead and lie to yourselves.
August 31st, 2009 at 4:09 pm
Going to be a different looking team opening night, but alot of youngsters…
I hope we put up some points and move the ball.
Green better have the game of his life…
August 31st, 2009 at 4:10 pm
I agree, Morrison is clearly a leader on D.
You can’t place all the blame on him.
Besides, theres nobody else to replace him. Ricky Brown? No. Hes got a motor, but hes not our MLB.
Hes from Oakland, loved the Raiders growing up, went to SDSU, got drafted by the Raiders and never missed one regular season game (or any back to like jr. high or pee wee apparently).
August 31st, 2009 at 4:11 pm
They’re probably just being cautious with Aso. He’s the most important player in Davis’s scheme.
Routt does like to play outside where the side line is his friend, but he’s been sh-it the last few seasons.
August 31st, 2009 at 4:11 pm
Morrison is the leader of a sorry ass excuse of a defense.
See ya guys later. Im gone
August 31st, 2009 at 4:12 pm
16
Morrison, that is.
August 31st, 2009 at 4:13 pm
Brien, I’d rather have Morrison out there, than not.
Sorry when hes in, sorry-ass when hes out.
August 31st, 2009 at 4:13 pm
16. Morrison is over rated and needs to drop to SLB or be traded.
Constantly makes bad audibles, takes bad angles, bites on fakes, is out of position, can’t pass rush, gets beat on an island, yadda frikkin yadda. He IS a major part of the problem. Blee dat…
Theres copious footage to prove it.
August 31st, 2009 at 4:15 pm
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Like I said, who is there to replace him?
Those of you not high on Morrison probably won’t have to sweat it much after 2009, as I think hes gone.
Probably to the Patriots, where he will flourish into an All Pro, lol.
August 31st, 2009 at 4:17 pm
This site is really screwed up. i haven’t been able to post for a number of days now. All I get is that stupid typing too fast message. It also won’t let you logout either. A real catch-22 if I do say so myself.
Please fix this site!!!!!!!!!
August 31st, 2009 at 4:17 pm
This is too good not to share!
http://vimeo.com/moogaloop.swf?clip_id=2539741
August 31st, 2009 at 4:17 pm
The offense should be able to put something together with the run and the pass. Provided they avoid the stupid penalties inside the 30 yard line. Hello Mr. Green!
Will the defense keep these guys in the game? I am not feeling good about those guys at all.
August 31st, 2009 at 4:18 pm
Super Mario missed the party at D-Mac’s: http://twitter.com/mariohenderson
Was this the party on fri. night, that Ellis was eluding to?
August 31st, 2009 at 4:21 pm
http://www.timhawkins.net/video.php
Cick on the government can for good clean side splitting humor.
August 31st, 2009 at 4:22 pm
21
I agree! We could have gotten Ray Malaluga, MLB USC in the second round. Instead we take Mike Mitchell who has yet to take the field. Morrison is simply not a MLB. We could have taken Curry followed by Malaluga and our LB problems would have been solved. No, not us we need more speed types who may be great at track but aren’t worth squat when it comes to playing smash-mouth football.
August 31st, 2009 at 4:22 pm
Nnamdi21 Says:
August 31st, 2009 at 4:13 pm
16. Morrison is over rated and needs to drop to SLB or be traded.
Constantly makes bad audibles, takes bad angles, bites on fakes, is out of position, can’t pass rush, gets beat on an island, yadda frikkin yadda. He IS a major part of the problem. Blee dat…
Theres copious footage to prove it.
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Please show me the footage of our DTs absorbing blockers and collapsing the pocke so the linebackers can do their job! Like this guy
http://www.nfl.com/videos/green-bay-packers/09000d5d81214432/Pre-WK-2-B-J-Raji-highlights
August 31st, 2009 at 4:23 pm
“Did you know they got there buts kick in preseason in 2002 same score 45-7 and that was the year they went to a super bowl”
Nice story but not true.
2002
Preseason Week 1 Oak 6 @ Dal 20
Preseason Week 2 Oak 14 @ Ten 24
Preseason Week 3 SF 10 @ Oak 17
Preseason Week 4 ARI 3 @ Oak 31
August 31st, 2009 at 4:24 pm
If Aso goes down we’ll be looking at a poor excuse for a defense. We’ll have later round young guys coupled with roadside FA vets playing Al Davis 1960’s defense…nice!
August 31st, 2009 at 4:25 pm
A D-Line that doesn’t pressure the quarterback, doesn’t slow down…let alone stop the run…and is littered with free agents and late round picks.
The D-Line is the core of the defense. Unfortunately, Al Davis sees the secondary as the core. Worst yet, he values undersized speed guys versus bulky guys that can provide push.
The D-Line is the worst position on the defense.
Not the linebackers.
August 31st, 2009 at 4:26 pm
Darrius Heyward-Bey has to be more than a decoy.
The O-Line and D-Line have to play better. Otherwise a disaster will await on Monday Night.
Step up fellas!
August 31st, 2009 at 4:30 pm
SnB the D sucks, Russell is just average and not a leader , Cable is a dumb idiot, the entire team parties too much a ive been saying for over a year now and Al Davis refuses to fill obvious gaps in the first or second rounds due to him doing it one way only. He will never change and we just gotta roll with a one way train to nowhere.
It will take a monumental turnaround mentally for this team to beat SD. It can still happen but too many things have to happen over the next two weeks. Do you see it happening? I’m unsure. Preseason my ass. The team looks unprepared and not ready for war.
August 31st, 2009 at 4:30 pm
April 20, 2006: Lewis vents his frustration about not having space-eating defensive tackles in front of him that would allow him to roam free to make tackles. “The issue is: Are you going to let me do what I do?” he asked. “And if not, let me go.” Nine days later, the Ravens draft 340-pound defensive tackle Haloti Ngata
http://www.courant.com/bal-ray-lewis-timeline-304,1,5168106.story
August 31st, 2009 at 4:30 pm
Alzado, Pickel, Townsend & Howie….Parella, Sam Adams, Trace Armstrong, Regan Upshaw & Rod Coleman…no wonder we went to the Superbowl
August 31st, 2009 at 4:31 pm
Start Garcia…cut russell today.
August 31st, 2009 at 4:33 pm
DHB is more than a decoy. He is a threat! That’s why they are doubling him…
August 31st, 2009 at 4:34 pm
Gotta love the decoy excuse. Nobody else is doing it. Cable´s got lemons, so let’s do lemonade
August 31st, 2009 at 4:34 pm
brien forget bout san diego game…that ones over,..something like 55-10,..if we can get 10 that is….san diego may not punt.
August 31st, 2009 at 4:35 pm
The fat man should have made the team run some gassers today at practice, after that embarrassment on sat.
August 31st, 2009 at 4:36 pm
Brien,
Russell is not the leader yet because he joined a team that was disorganized and lacked direction. Too bad Russell didn’t join a team that had the leadership in place….Isn’t that supposed to be Justin Fargas’ redeaming value?
Look, Russell doesn’t seem to throw a lot of INTs. That’s a good thing. THe lynchpin in all this is getting yards on the ground from DMAC. That and limited penalties gives the RAiders a chance.
THe defense, I know Nnamdi21 doesn’t believe this, has to be called upon to hold opponents down. Not rely on huge leads so the opponent throws every down…who couldn’t win in that scenario anyway!
Either the defense stops the run and pressures the QB..or the team is screwed for a SEVENTH consecutive year!
Cable told everyone it was fundamentals and teaching. THerefore, that fundamentals and teaching should be on the line. Hopefully it comes together in two weeks! It is only preseason…..
Did you see the Raji clips….
August 31st, 2009 at 4:36 pm
brien you like colt mccoy next year?..i like tebow, unsure who davis will draft, I will though once 40 times are announced.
August 31st, 2009 at 4:37 pm
If Norco Bob can talk about Garcia all day (a no-nothing QB btw) then I can talk about Gerard Warren, Tommy Kelly and whoever plays RDE and SLB
August 31st, 2009 at 4:38 pm
909 they would have laughed at cable if he told them to run gassers,..they would have told cable we will if Al says we have to, not you fat ass.
August 31st, 2009 at 4:39 pm
Why blame Jamarcus? The O-line sucks. The Wrs suck. The coaching staff super duper sucks. The kid is 24 years old, what the hell can he do other than wear a Mohawk?
August 31st, 2009 at 4:40 pm
at least garcia might make merriman miss once ina while, stupid russell cant get out of his own way.
August 31st, 2009 at 4:41 pm
Norco Bob Says:
August 31st, 2009 at 4:36 pm
brien you like colt mccoy next year?..i like tebow, unsure who davis will draft, I will though once 40 times are announced.
=======================================================The lines are in DESPERATE need of help! And you want yet ANOTHER skill position player?
August 31st, 2009 at 4:42 pm
Nnamdi under the Knife?
http://www.raidernationstation.com/exclusives
August 31st, 2009 at 4:43 pm
The defense will get fixed. The only definites are Nam & Kelly. You just can’t fix everything at once.
August 31st, 2009 at 4:45 pm
snb,..I dont, but davis will.
August 31st, 2009 at 4:45 pm
ya i heard just now nahmbdi might miss some games, possibly year.
August 31st, 2009 at 4:46 pm
Russell is already looking better than many QBs in this league in ONLY HIS 2ND YEAR IN STARTING!!!
(…coming out his junior year in college ….sheez, do you dimwits constantly need to be reminded of this?)
August 31st, 2009 at 4:47 pm
ya ok terp, hes great,…lol.
August 31st, 2009 at 4:48 pm
hey did mike mitchell get cut already?
August 31st, 2009 at 4:53 pm
Never said he was “great”. I said he’s “already better than many QBs in this league…”
The guy came out of college with not as many games under his belt as say Matt Ryan or Joe Flacco, et al. He was greener than Kentucky grass. Last year was basically his rookie campaign or equivocally his senior year in college.
Please, have some perspective. This guy is looking better and better as he gets experience and proper coaching. If you can’t see the progression then it’ll only get worse as you get older – or just get laser eye surgery.
August 31st, 2009 at 4:54 pm
This is the 1st year Russell received any coaching. Sad but true.
Al Davis undervalues the role coaches play. Therefore, Russell was saddled with substandard coaching for his 1st two years in the league.
No coaching! No veterans to look to as a role model! And general chaos and lord knows what else behind the scenes in Oakland!
August 31st, 2009 at 4:55 pm
Russell never wanted to be a raider and it shows.
August 31st, 2009 at 4:57 pm
“Russell never wanted to be a raider and it shows.”
Narco – Where do you get this stuff (sht) from?
August 31st, 2009 at 4:58 pm
ESPN just showed the litany of dropped balls by Raider receivers in the Saints game.
C’Mon Man!
August 31st, 2009 at 4:58 pm
Norco : “Nnambdi may be out a year”
“Mike Mitchell get cut?”
“Russell never wanted to be a Raider and it shows”
Interpretation:
PLEASE GAWD! SOME ONE LOVE ME!!! I’M SO DESPERATE FOR HUMAN CONTACT!!!
August 31st, 2009 at 4:59 pm
No humans in here 21.
August 31st, 2009 at 4:59 pm
Norco Bob Says:
August 31st, 2009 at 4:55 pm
Russell never wanted to be a raider and it shows.
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Maybe because he saw the chaos going on at the time. Who knows. Tell ya what though. If Russell were to fail here…do you think that another young QB with promise would play here or would they pull an Eli Manning / John Elway?
Be careful what you wish for Norco Bob!
August 31st, 2009 at 5:00 pm
SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
August 31st, 2009 at 4:58 pm
ESPN just showed the litany of dropped balls by Raider receivers in the Saints game.
C’Mon Man!
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Dropped balls?
Russell was 12-18. SEE NORCO?! If the wides could’ve held on he’d have been 15 of 18 fool.
August 31st, 2009 at 5:00 pm
Russell better get into the playoffs this year or he aint it. Sorry guys but this is the truth. He has gotta find a way to rally these guys and make them perform. As the face of the franchise the guys will follow your lead
August 31st, 2009 at 5:01 pm
No of course no decent qb would want to be here.
August 31st, 2009 at 5:02 pm
Raider nation station article, The Pope had similar procedure to what Nnamdi may face. Ha!
Sign him up!
August 31st, 2009 at 5:02 pm
Nhambdi is smart, is looking for any way to not have to be boo`d all year at home.
August 31st, 2009 at 5:03 pm
Nnamdi21 Says:
August 31st, 2009 at 5:00 pm
SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
August 31st, 2009 at 4:58 pm
ESPN just showed the litany of dropped balls by Raider receivers in the Saints game.
C’Mon Man!
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Dropped balls?
Russell was 12-18. SEE NORCO?! If the wides could’ve held on he’d have been 15 of 18 fool.
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The drops were horrendous. And Russell should have been 16 of 18….don’t forget the fumble after catch either.
This receiving corps has had problems dropping the ball…especially on important down and distance….then everyone in this place blames Russell for the drops and Cornell Green holding all the time.
Russell can be a good QB if he gets support and he hasn’t been getting too much of it!
August 31st, 2009 at 5:03 pm
12 for 18 means nada to me. He still has a slow release and takes too long to make a decision. When guys screw up out there he isnt in thei faces or even talking to them on the sidelines. He doesnt give a damn IMO
August 31st, 2009 at 5:04 pm
Stats never tell the whole story but they are what they are. “IF” the preseason is any indication of what to expect from Russell this year, he’s definitely progressed.
2008 stats – completed 53.8% with a passer rating 77.1 (with the last few games being much better …at 60+% and a higher rating)
So far this preseason he’s completed 65.7% with a passer rating 96.0 (and we all know this would’ve been much higher if not for the WRs forgetting the left hand from their right).
Progress!
August 31st, 2009 at 5:04 pm
I will start booing russell during national anthem for opener.
August 31st, 2009 at 5:05 pm
Brien the General Says:
August 31st, 2009 at 5:00 pm
Russell better get into the playoffs this year or he aint it. Sorry guys but this is the truth. He has gotta find a way to rally these guys and make them perform. As the face of the franchise the guys will follow your lead
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I am all with you provided Tom Cable puts good players around him and doesn’t play stupid depth chart games or call reverses and kicker sweeps on 4th down!
Also, interested to see if Cornell Green, Carlisle and Satele don’t meltdown.
Its a team effort Brien. Especially for young QBs.
But he certainly has to do better….Playoffs??? THis run defense and pass rush in October, NOvember and DEcember….Playoffs?
August 31st, 2009 at 5:05 pm
Raiders are forced to run it damn near 40 times a game and pass 20-25 times.
August 31st, 2009 at 5:06 pm
brien, only you and I see things as they are,..then again, these fools dont go to every game as we do.
August 31st, 2009 at 5:07 pm
Well theres our coach in booth tonight,..the one Davis sold in the middle of the night.
August 31st, 2009 at 5:07 pm
Brien the General Says:
August 31st, 2009 at 5:03 pm
12 for 18 means nada to me. He still has a slow release and takes too long to make a decision. When guys screw up out there he isnt in thei faces or even talking to them on the sidelines. He doesnt give a damn IMO
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How about receivers and players that do their damn jobs!
Lineman that struggle blocking, a running back that get 3yds a carry, receivers that drop the ball repeatedly and a coach who has playcalling issues.
BTW, Is Brady Quinn a bust right now?
August 31st, 2009 at 5:08 pm
69. 71. Word.
August 31st, 2009 at 5:09 pm
75.Norco Bob Says:
August 31st, 2009 at 5:06 pm
brien, only you and I see things as they are,..then again, these fools dont go to every game as we do.
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Yes Bob. Its EVERYONE ELSE…
August 31st, 2009 at 5:09 pm
SnB, its either now or never. Name the last QB drafted real high to take a long time to develop into an elite QB having his team in the post season? This wait until 4-5 years down the line shyt is ridiculous.
Russell has to lead the team and rally the troops. He needs to be a man and make those guys accountable. He is the face of a losing franchise. What does that tell you?
August 31st, 2009 at 5:10 pm
Brien the General Says:
August 31st, 2009 at 5:00 pm
Russell better get into the playoffs this year or he aint it.
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Now thats simply illogical. How can you pin all these years faults (drafts and all) on a guy that’s basically just starting at QB? How’s HE responsible for TScott’s lack of run defense? How’s HE responsible for the fact that we have no real SLB? How?
August 31st, 2009 at 5:10 pm
21 we are at every game, we see things the camera man doesnt show you guys.
August 31st, 2009 at 5:11 pm
# Norco Bob Says:
August 31st, 2009 at 3:43 pm
jamarcus needs to be cut. today.
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O.K. Bob,
1. So, should the cowboys have cut Troy Aikman when they went 1-15 his rookie year? Yeah, he sucked.
2. Should the Colts have cut Manning after his 26th interception after his rookie year? (Russell had
3. Should the Broncos have cut Elway when he lined up behind his guard, instead of the Center during his rookie year?
4. Steve Young absolutely sucked his first few years in the league.
Wake up dude. Jamarcus Russell has played started all of 20 games.
20 freakin’ games.
After 20 games, you’re ready to cut him?
Phillip Rivers sat on a bench for 3 years and did nothing but watch and learn. J-Russ has had to play behind a team with lots of glaring holes. Give the dude a chance to succeed for cryin’ out loud.
Some of you people are so wishy-washy man. No patience at all.
August 31st, 2009 at 5:11 pm
Norco, Brien.
He has 1 year of starting experience and hasn’t had a decent WR since he was drafted. Everyone knows Russell isn’t going anywhere yet, so drop it. And perhaps offer something constructive?
Russell and Greg Ellis are the probably the players who actually showed up on Saturday. I would be more focused on the D-Line and lazy a$$es like Tommy Kelly.
August 31st, 2009 at 5:11 pm
2. I meant to say Russell had 8 interceptions last year.
August 31st, 2009 at 5:12 pm
Whatever,…I know russell sucks,..if he beats san diego I will treat all you guys to round table for pizza and beer.
August 31st, 2009 at 5:13 pm
Nice handoff brett! you da man!
August 31st, 2009 at 5:13 pm
Please Narco, you 2 would be complaining if we had Brees.
August 31st, 2009 at 5:15 pm
No I wouldnt,..thats funny though,…as if he would consider being here.
August 31st, 2009 at 5:16 pm
excuses excuses
August 31st, 2009 at 5:17 pm
Vikes look hard,..awesome.
August 31st, 2009 at 5:17 pm
No one came to play saturday
August 31st, 2009 at 5:18 pm
Thats what these fans all say until they get their man. …once clamming for Walker, now that they got him ..”HE SUCKS!!!”
It would be no different with Brees. You guys are hell bent on demeaning any talent if the team doesn’t win. Just firing pistols in any and all directions.
August 31st, 2009 at 5:19 pm
Terp I dont know what your point is,…you seem to be a loyal fan, but you need to take a closer look at the reality of the team.
August 31st, 2009 at 5:22 pm
# Terrapin Says:
Thats what these fans all say until they get their man. …once clamming for Walker, now that they got him ..”HE SUCKS!!!”
It would be no different with Brees. You guys are hell bent on demeaning any talent if the team doesn’t win. Just firing pistols in any and all directions.
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Agreed. I doubt even Tom Brady would have won many games with this team over the last couple years. And if he was here they would be burning him in effigy too.
August 31st, 2009 at 5:23 pm
Brett looks ready!!!
August 31st, 2009 at 5:23 pm
Ya briz,..I get brady confused with russell too. lol
August 31st, 2009 at 5:24 pm
I do. I’ve kept saying insofar as I can measure them, they’re a below 0.500 team. Now that’s all speculation. Anything can change in the actual season. But its clear to me that they are better than last year’s squad, at least on offense. I’m very suspect of that defense.
August 31st, 2009 at 5:25 pm
Terp, illogical? All of the young franchise QBs lately have shown they were legit early on. Excuses will not be tolerated. Playoffs or bust! Waiting on 2010 then 2011 is what someone like you will be content with. I am not
August 31st, 2009 at 5:26 pm
Bret and the Vikes wont do a damn thing this year. Packers win that division
August 31st, 2009 at 5:27 pm
Yea, because Jeff Garcia starting means we will make the playoffs… LOL!
# Norco Bob Says:
Ya briz,..I get brady confused with russell too. lol
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Reading comprehension is king, might want to try it.
August 31st, 2009 at 5:28 pm
We need offensive tackles and defensive ends, but Al drafts the guy with the best 40 time. What an idiot!
August 31st, 2009 at 5:29 pm
Man that Mario Williams is a beast, good call by the Texans drafting him. You know Al would have took Reggie Bush.
August 31st, 2009 at 5:30 pm
Brien the General Says:
August 31st, 2009 at 5:25 pm
Terp, illogical? All of the young franchise QBs lately have shown they were legit early on. Excuses will not be tolerated. Playoffs or bust! Waiting on 2010 then 2011 is what someone like you will be content with. I am not
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No way. Those other franchises were not run like a circus the last 2yrs. No way. No coaching at all his 1st two years. He had the WORST Left Tackle in the league last year. No way.
Look at Walter. The Pats feel good enough about him to cut the original backup. Because Walter was put in an impossible situation. Russell has been in an equally impossible situation of late. THis is the first year of coaching. Embarrasing as that is. He get this year and next.
Sorry, those first two years were wasted because Al Davis can’t seem to manage the franchise very well of late
August 31st, 2009 at 5:32 pm
Free pizza and beer? Super Mario will be there….
August 31st, 2009 at 5:33 pm
But you are talking about QBs that had many more games under their belts than Russell. And they were also on much better teams (Ravens/Falcons – both had great/good defenses and good Olines). What did the Raiders have? Sht, Russell’s 1st year he couldn’t dare hold that ball longer than 2secs if he wanted to keep his head on his body!
August 31st, 2009 at 5:34 pm
and when 2009 is wasted what will you say?
August 31st, 2009 at 5:35 pm
Bris your cutting and pasting is all messed up,..whats your point?
August 31st, 2009 at 5:35 pm
Russell was drafted in 2007 Terp! The other Qbs were winning in year one or year two over the last decade or they just plain sucked. Stop with the excuses
August 31st, 2009 at 5:37 pm
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/08/31/rod-colemans-comeback-ends/
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couldn’t be any worse than Sands
August 31st, 2009 at 5:38 pm
Russell in his 3rd year,..sanchez in ny looks years ahead of him already.
August 31st, 2009 at 5:38 pm
Brien the General Says:
August 31st, 2009 at 5:34 pm
and when 2009 is wasted what will you say?
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Hope that Russell learned something and the team developes chemistry.
Garcia and MOST vet QBs are worthless. Otherwise, why would a vet come to a place like Oakland instead of Minnesota or somewhere like that.
August 31st, 2009 at 5:40 pm
Ask yourself this …How long did it take Eli Manning to be the QB he is today? And he’s been on a much better team than Russell.
No one here is content with losing. But if you keep cutting bait with your QB then you’ll keep on losing.
I’m not thinking playoffs – that’s for losers. I’m thinking Super Bowl. Russell progressing into that QB is the best chance this team has right now.
Garcia is garbage. Tampa had a much better squad than the Raiders and he couldn’t do it there. What makes you think he can do it here? There’s a freakin’ reason Chucky was uncommitted to him!
Sure get us to the ‘Playoffs’ …just to lose the 1st damn game – pointless. But yet you sacrificed the future of the franchise, maybe a Super Bowl in the future, just to make it to the Playoffs now.
Damn I feel like Jim Mora now …”PLAYOFFS, PLAYOFFS”
August 31st, 2009 at 5:40 pm
# Norco Bob Says:
August 31st, 2009 at 5:35 pm
Bris your cutting and pasting is all messed up,..whats your point?
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I’m saying you need to learn to read correctly.
Sanchez has receivers and a O-Line. The Raiders have had neither for years.
August 31st, 2009 at 5:42 pm
Ya ok briz, you have alot of excuses for russell dont ya?…lol
August 31st, 2009 at 5:42 pm
I don’t think it get much simpler than this – Russell was a JUNIOR. These other QBs you’re referencing were SENIORS and some probably (SUPER)SENIORS.
August 31st, 2009 at 5:43 pm
Brien & Narcotics Boob
I don’t understand where all the hate for JaMarcus comes from.
25 for 38, 65% completions, 96 passer rating.
Whereas the D-Line in the last 2 losses gave up 200+ yds per.
I don’t get it. Could you explain to a old man Raider Fan?
August 31st, 2009 at 5:43 pm
Guys like briz, kell, no matter what, they have their excuses for russell, they are in denial and will never admit it was the worst number one draft pick in history.
August 31st, 2009 at 5:44 pm
Kell, enough with your pass ratings stats, thats embarrassing.
August 31st, 2009 at 5:45 pm
I think Narco and Brien are just ruffling feathers here. They just can’t be this serious (or delirious).
August 31st, 2009 at 5:45 pm
Jared Allen is a monster.
August 31st, 2009 at 5:46 pm
QB rating is for dorks!
How many series has he had and how many TDs have we scored?
August 31st, 2009 at 5:47 pm
terp we just are realists when it comes to russell, you and others arent ready to admit that hes a monumental bust, biggest bust ever.
August 31st, 2009 at 5:47 pm
Jared Allen is a crazy and needs a mental exam
August 31st, 2009 at 5:47 pm
CRACKRAIDER Says:
August 31st, 2009 at 3:52 pm
You guys this is all part of the plan..Did you know they got there buts kick in preseason in 2002 same score 45-7 and that was the year they went to a super bowl…this game is a big mind freak the raiders are playing possum and the other teams are falling for it.. trust me how could you just kick Dallas’s ass out of know where to play like that with N.O…. think about it guys its all planed out
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Read the comment.
Then saw your handle, and it all made sense.
As far as Dallas/N.O.??
Gosh..I don’t know..I mean..you think that maybe the fact that a lot of dinged up players sat out game one, where as game 3 is a mirror of the team you’re going to put on the field for the regular season??
Think that might have anything to do with it?
(I’m aware that the key word there is “think”, in that it’s not a given.)
August 31st, 2009 at 5:48 pm
# Norco Bob Says:
August 31st, 2009 at 5:42 pm
Ya ok briz, you have alot of excuses for russell dont ya?…lol
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No, Russell has his problems. But at least he is showing progress. Trent Dilfer was no great QB when he won the Super Bowl, neither was Brad Johnson in 2002. If the Raiders had an O-Line the offense would be light years ahead of where it is now. And if we could stop the run the offense would have a chance to work. It’s not rocket science.
August 31st, 2009 at 5:49 pm
although brien and i disagree on garcia,..i want him to start and brien wants him to die.
August 31st, 2009 at 5:49 pm
briz when you are the top pick and get 65 million, I dont give excuses.
August 31st, 2009 at 5:49 pm
los raiders de don rober Says:
August 31st, 2009 at 4:39 pm
Why blame Jamarcus? The O-line sucks. The Wrs suck. The coaching staff super duper sucks. The kid is 24 years old, what the hell can he do other than wear a Mohawk?
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that’s about it…wear a Mohawk, and some outrageous bling.
After that he’s useless.
August 31st, 2009 at 5:51 pm
I dont think Russell is a bust yet. He has until the end of the season to show me that he isnt
August 31st, 2009 at 5:52 pm
And you would waste that 65 million by cutting him…
August 31st, 2009 at 5:52 pm
Terrapin Says:
August 31st, 2009 at 4:33 pm
DHB is more than a decoy. He is a threat! That’s why they are doubling him…
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Of COURSE he is, pumpkin…you just keep telling yourself that.
I’m SURE those two catches in 3 games have defenses quivering in fear…yeah…that’s it.
August 31st, 2009 at 5:53 pm
Average play from a number one pick is garbage
August 31st, 2009 at 5:53 pm
I doubt Favre makes it out of the pre season.
August 31st, 2009 at 5:54 pm
Raiders are 12th in the league in points 19.3 per game.
I know you two don’t like stats of facts, but what else do we have, your opinion?
August 31st, 2009 at 5:54 pm
Terrapin Says:
August 31st, 2009 at 4:46 pm
Russell is already looking better than many QBs in this league in ONLY HIS 2ND YEAR IN STARTING!!!
(…coming out his junior year in college ….sheez, do you dimwits constantly need to be reminded of this?)
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Really??
Which would those be?
Wait..you aren’t going to toss out preseason stats, are you?
Preseason?
Tell me that’s not what you mean…it can’t be.
You CAN’T be stating that minimal time in, dumping off, is what you’re referring to?
August 31st, 2009 at 5:55 pm
Crabtree is scaring only niner fans
August 31st, 2009 at 5:57 pm
Brien the General Says:
August 31st, 2009 at 5:00 pm
Russell better get into the playoffs this year or he aint it. Sorry guys but this is the truth. He has gotta find a way to rally these guys and make them perform. As the face of the franchise the guys will follow your lead
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LMAO..you idiot.
“face of the franchise”??
Mohawk Boy??
You’re such a baffoon, Brie.
August 31st, 2009 at 5:57 pm
Brien The General Says:
August 31st, 2009 at 5:46 pm
QB rating is for dorks!
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Really? I thought passer rating numbers were for GM’s Scouts, Fans, Media to appraise the value of a QB, no?
August 31st, 2009 at 5:58 pm
Waste is paying 65 million to not win titles
August 31st, 2009 at 5:59 pm
Norco Bob Says:
August 31st, 2009 at 5:35 pm
Bris your cutting and pasting is all messed up,..whats your point?
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I tried to explain it to him.
All I got was ‘huh??’..uh…”HUH??
I give up.
August 31st, 2009 at 5:59 pm
Lynn from Snot Says:
August 31st, 2009 at 5:55 pm
Crabtree is scaring only niner fans
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SnottyLynn…love the dress.
it’s so you.
August 31st, 2009 at 6:00 pm
Its your mothers and its soiled
August 31st, 2009 at 6:01 pm
Kell, the QB rating is for agents to sell teams on giving thier client moe money. Its a newbie ass stat doesnt mean squat
Bitchochet just shut your damn mouth. Why the hell do you select a QB at number one? I guess its not to be the face of the franchise. Similar to the great Alex Smith
August 31st, 2009 at 6:02 pm
Living in the past. The 65 million (32 actually) is gone. I agree with you though Brien, if he isn’t improved after this year he won’t be anything in this league.
August 31st, 2009 at 6:03 pm
I know Brien, stats are for pussy’s …but I love me some pussy
2008 stats per QB I’m assuming you are referencing:
JaMarcus Russell
13TD 8Int 2423Yds 77.1Rating
Matt Ryan
16TD 11Int 3440Yds 87.7Rating
Joe Flacco
14TD 12Int 2971Yds 80.3Rating
Really not much of a difference between them statistically EXCEPT both Ryan and Flacco were drafted as Senior and SuPER Senior respectively AND both played on much better teams (offenses for sure). Still complaining after you see there’s not much difference in their performance?
In case you didn’t know. The difference between a junior and a senior is usually more games played.
Do you really think Flacco was the leader of that Raven squad?
August 31st, 2009 at 6:05 pm
Matty Ice and Joe Cool all Russell needs is a nickname
August 31st, 2009 at 6:05 pm
Lets see Kwame Harris vs Jonathan Ogden? You do the math.
August 31st, 2009 at 6:05 pm
Terrapin Says:
August 31st, 2009 at 6:05 pm
Lets see Kwame Harris vs Jonathan Ogden? You do the math.
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Exactly!
August 31st, 2009 at 6:06 pm
NO OTHER TEAM IN THE NFL WOULD SUBJECT THEIR INVESTMENT TO A JOURNEYMAN FRINGE NFL PLAYER
Except Oakland…who undervalues the role of Lineman and coaches alike!
August 31st, 2009 at 6:09 pm
# Terrapin Says:
August 31st, 2009 at 6:03 pm
I know Brien, stats are for pussy’s …but I love me some pussy
2008 stats per QB I’m assuming you are referencing:
JaMarcus Russell
13TD 8Int 2423Yds 77.1Rating
Matt Ryan
16TD 11Int 3440Yds 87.7Rating
Joe Flacco
14TD 12Int 2971Yds 80.3Rating
Really not much of a difference between them statistically EXCEPT both Ryan and Flacco were drafted as Senior and SuPER Senior respectively AND both played on much better teams (offenses for sure). Still complaining after you see there’s not much difference in their performance?
In case you didn’t know. The difference between a junior and a senior is usually more games played.
Do you really think Flacco was the leader of that Raven squad?
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HAAAAAAAAAAAAA funny stuff. I said dorks, I like your posts alot but I pray you arent a dork.
As for jr an sr year crap=zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz. More excuses man. He is in the NFL now.
Yeah put up stats for guys whose work ethic is never questioned and teams surprised the league lol
August 31st, 2009 at 6:10 pm
Brien,
The Raiders have been running one of, if not THE, worst franchise the last couple of years as measured by:
1. Talent levels at key positions
2. Coaching chaos
3. Lack of vet leadership
You are putting faith in JaMarcus like the nation is doing for your president. Assuming he can just fix everything with a wave of a magic wand.
THE KID HASN’T HAD NFL CALIBER COACHING UNTIL A FEW MONTHS AGO!
Does anyone not see the problem with that!
August 31st, 2009 at 6:11 pm
# Terrapin Says:
August 31st, 2009 at 6:05 pm
Lets see Kwame Harris vs Jonathan Ogden? You do the math.
# SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
August 31st, 2009 at 6:05 pm
Terrapin Says:
August 31st, 2009 at 6:05 pm
Lets see Kwame Harris vs Jonathan Ogden? You do the math.
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Exactly!
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I like both of you guys but Ogden was done after 2007
August 31st, 2009 at 6:12 pm
ahright i got to peel out …get something accomplished …it was fun nonetheless.
August 31st, 2009 at 6:12 pm
Brien,
Kwame was the WORST! Is he in the league? why not?
August 31st, 2009 at 6:14 pm
Coaches have their part but players play the game. Come on
August 31st, 2009 at 6:15 pm
Yeah but folks have the nerve to use a former raider LT and a former raven lt due to the success/loack of success of a current raider qb and a current raven qb. That is my problem
August 31st, 2009 at 6:15 pm
lack*
August 31st, 2009 at 6:17 pm
Brien,
If I gave you a horse with arthritis and told you to go win the Kentucky Derby………
August 31st, 2009 at 6:17 pm
Brien the General Says:
August 31st, 2009 at 6:15 pm
Yeah but folks have the nerve to use a former raider LT and a former raven lt due to the success/loack of success of a current raider qb and a current raven qb. That is my problem
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Oversight….you got the point though.
August 31st, 2009 at 6:19 pm
Speaking of Ogden…
Who was the last great Raider Left Tackle?
Who was the last great Raider QB?
Who was the last great Raider linebacker?
or Defensive Tackle? or Defensive End?
Give me the Raider who has manned his position for 10 solid years….hell 8 solid years….and don’t tell me Kicker or Punter!
August 31st, 2009 at 6:24 pm
SnB,
Art Shell
Kenny Stabler
Ted Hendricks
Grady Jackson?
August 31st, 2009 at 6:26 pm
Well, they ain’t dead, so there’s hope. But I’ll be more optimistic when they show some signs of life. If they can go two series with the first crew without getting blown up on run defense, then maybe this will work out. Realistically, I don’t think they’ll get it together in time.
August 31st, 2009 at 6:31 pm
The Last LB to make a Pro Bowl for the Raiders is Matt Millen 1988
Darrell Russell DT made the Pro-Bowl in 98′ 99′
Chester McGlockton DT made the Pro-Bowl in 94′ 95′ 96′ 97′
I hear ya.
August 31st, 2009 at 6:36 pm
# SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
August 31st, 2009 at 6:19 pm
Speaking of Ogden…
Who was the last great Raider Left Tackle?
Who was the last great Raider QB?
Who was the last great Raider linebacker?
or Defensive Tackle? or Defensive End?
Give me the Raider who has manned his position for 10 solid years….hell 8 solid years….and don’t tell me Kicker or Punter!
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SnB we have discussed this before. It has been forever on all fronts. WE all know who to look at on all these players
August 31st, 2009 at 6:42 pm
Kell SnB said great. Millen can get that tag but not Russell and McGlockton
August 31st, 2009 at 6:45 pm
See ya guys later……………..
August 31st, 2009 at 6:54 pm
Kell, you check out the video I posted at post 24? Watch it to the end, btw, were you ever in Drum Corps?
August 31st, 2009 at 7:02 pm
No clue what the JaMarcus bashers are watching. It’s definitely not the last 5 games he played in.
As for the importance of getting in guys’ faces, that’s overrated. A player needs to establish himself as a great player before guys will take him serious and not just get annoyed at that crap. Ricky Brown was reportedly doing that stuff in camp. The MLB is often called the QB of the defense. Is that helping the defense any? No. The defense has sucked.
JaMarcus was excellent vs. the Saints. More than half his drives were killed by drops or fumbles by the other players. He had the one fumble, but his passing was great and he was under a lot of pressure in that game. JaMarcus’ play was one of very few positive things to draw from that game.
August 31st, 2009 at 7:09 pm
860Todd Christensen Says:
August 31st, 2009 at 6:54 pm
Kell, you check out the video I posted at post 24? Watch it to the end, btw, were you ever in Drum Corps?
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That’s what I’m talking about. Beautiful, Onelove, baby. When I see peoples relating as human beings, it make me feel real good. Thanks
No, I played clarinet, lol, and sang in school.
August 31st, 2009 at 7:13 pm
Yeah Jam has been making some good passes and decisions with the ball now his WRs have to step up. THey are going to keep double teaming and playing over the top on DHB until he learns how to bait the defense on some short passes. When he starts showing some hands catching shoerter routes they will have to respect and then when they come up to cover he can turn on that 4.3 speed and burn em for a TD.
August 31st, 2009 at 7:14 pm
Man…………………..Percy Harvin is looking real good playing under Farve right now.
August 31st, 2009 at 7:15 pm
Sure guys. Take all time you need to see a great qb. Lets be patient lol
August 31st, 2009 at 7:17 pm
Harvin does look good but it aint cuz of sorry ass favre
August 31st, 2009 at 7:26 pm
Kell, I marched 1968/74, the golden age, Santa Clara Vanguards, Anahiem Kingsmen, Casper Troopers, 27th Regiment, Blue Rock, ahhh memories. I love that video.
August 31st, 2009 at 7:43 pm
Cuts are coming up… Who from this board should be cut. Name your top five…
August 31st, 2009 at 7:47 pm
1. Justin Farglass
2. Cornell Green
3. Javon Walker
4. Terdell Sands
5. Michael Huff
August 31st, 2009 at 7:48 pm
Honorable mention= Jon Alston
August 31st, 2009 at 7:54 pm
yo brien,..hows it goin in here?
August 31st, 2009 at 7:56 pm
First one to be cut= Brein the douchebag
August 31st, 2009 at 7:58 pm
Second=Norco Boob
August 31st, 2009 at 7:58 pm
hey brien the folks in alameda emailed me today for being ejected saturday
August 31st, 2009 at 8:00 pm
told them to refund my ticket cash and I will be happy to not be a nuisance anymore.
August 31st, 2009 at 8:05 pm
Cable was pleased at the practices leading up to Saturdays debacle…..so FKN what!!!
BFD Jerry!
August 31st, 2009 at 8:12 pm
Let me guess, Norco Blob got run for bein SO FUKN WASTED!! HE WAS SOOOO BAKED BRO!!
August 31st, 2009 at 8:23 pm
Oh, thanks guys, I feel much better. We’re only “playing possum” right now. Truth be told, we have a good enough team to destroy top tier teams like the Saints, but no point in doing so and boosting morale. We want to surprise the league! Sure.
August 31st, 2009 at 8:26 pm
I see Brien’s still making great sense. Ranting about second year QB taking this team to the playoffs. While Russell may do that, to say he’s a bust if he doesn’t is absolutely ludicrous. Bret Favre didn’t take the Jets to the playoffs neither did Cutler in a bad division. Are they bums as well?
Brien don’t be ridiculous just because you can’t have it your way. Russell’s progres is just finr and if he keeps progressing at this rate he’ll be a great one. SB’s and playoffs will come. But uy’s not getting the players they want and continuing to bitch and moan over it. Just shows how very petty some really are.
Everthing went right for the Saints and everything went wrong for us. A recipe for disaster but only for one game. We haven’t even played a regular season game everything sucks from top to bottom. Ok alright so we might as well not play a game then right?
I guess we should just quit why try to get better and see where it takes us. We don’t have any players the owner is meddling fool our cach is stupid and we are cowards as fans.
Well I for 1 am anxious to see how this team developes and becomes what they can be. No matter how lng it takes I’ll be here through the tough times. Every freakin’ one of them and I’d like all the rats to please jump ship now. We don’t need you. And when and if we start winning I hope you’ve drowned by then. So you can’t jump back on board
Adios!!
August 31st, 2009 at 8:27 pm
actually I was pretty drunk, in 4th quarter some camera dude came up to me in row 1 and wanted me to give him my take on the game, i went off on his ass and oakland pd escorted me out.
August 31st, 2009 at 8:28 pm
TJ you are a tool.
August 31st, 2009 at 8:30 pm
How come the media is saying Brady Quinn needs to grow through his mistakes? Yet Russell is in his last year?
How about Trent Edwards?
Draft status is meaningless. If a guy takes 4yrs…he takes 4yrs.
Playing the Jeff Garcia’s, Rex Grossman’s, Damon Huard’s, Jon Kitna’s of the world result in a perpetual never ending rebuilding project.
What did the Lions get for playing Kitna over Drew Stanton? Or the Chiefs with Huard.
Better to fail with a young kid who has upside then to go through the motions with some washed up veteran who has more than enough opportunities to prove he can play
August 31st, 2009 at 8:32 pm
Favre is done and Cutler is a crybaby loser. BHP the excuses have to stop at some point
August 31st, 2009 at 8:35 pm
Priesttj,
Its not about “rats jumping ship” or “waiting as long as it takes.” Anyone spending time debating issues on a team with the record this team has had the last few years is on board with the Raiders. Sure, there are a few haters and baiters…but just because people critique a team that has made many questionable moves doesn’t suggest a lack of loyalty.
This shouldn’t be the North Korea of football. This team has a few strengths, some potential strengths and some profound weaknesses.
Given the weaknesses and the recent record, I think its healthy to engage in rigourous and sometime contentious debate.
I also think your position has a place in the debate. I appreciate your posts because many times it makes me take a step back and think of some of my critiques.
But don’t mistake critiques as rats jumping ship. Again, this is not North Korea!
August 31st, 2009 at 8:40 pm
Cutler looked good last night brien,..glad hes out of denver.
August 31st, 2009 at 8:41 pm
Farve is done? Tonight he was 14 for 18 with 147 yards and a touchdown. He looked better than any of our quarterbacks.
August 31st, 2009 at 8:42 pm
snb some of these arent critiques but ignorant ramblings from people who expect things to go their way. callin russell a fat country n-gga like brien did was unacceptable. they want this guy to do what most young qbs dont do just cuz ryan and flacco who had the proper infrastructure to succeed had. u pointed that out but that shouldnt matter to them. he is supposed to show older more experienced guys how to do something he is learnin himself. does that make sense to you? hell no!! russ has to establish himself 1rst before anyone will listen. whats funny is that there are players on the team that dont give damn what namdi thinks yet they expect them to listen to russell. what does that tell u!!
August 31st, 2009 at 8:44 pm
Fun fact….
Jeff Garcia is one of only seven quarterbacks in NFL history that have achieved two consecutive thirty-touchdown passing seasons (2000 and 2001) at least one time in their career. The others are Steve Bartkowski, Peyton Manning, Brett Favre, Dan Fouts, Dan Marino, and Y.A. Tittle.
August 31st, 2009 at 8:44 pm
russell was just as good as farve and wouldve had more yards if murphy and jlh caught the damn ball. russ was hitting guys in full stride on the run yet alot of simpletons in here dont recognize that. they have criticized him for not doing that and when he does now that doesnt matter.
August 31st, 2009 at 8:48 pm
If Russell busts out of the league it will have as much to do with the absolute disaster of a franchise that is the Raiders as it will with his own shortcomings.
August 31st, 2009 at 8:48 pm
Dear Leader, Al Davis?
August 31st, 2009 at 8:49 pm
Russell is an inaccurate passer and he does NOT hit recievers in stride. Thats not even debateable.
August 31st, 2009 at 8:50 pm
while were at lets talk about briens boy jlh. he takes alot of credit for thinking he was the only one to prop him up but yet he has nothing to say about HIS DROPS. he has dropped passes in every game but there is no harsh words for him. he is in his THIRD YEAR as well but he somehow gets a pass. his returns have sucked and he does a poor job of catching passes thrown in his area unless its right 2 him and even then hes iffy. any comments on those 2 3rd down drops he had?? anyone?
August 31st, 2009 at 8:54 pm
dude u clearly cant see cuz if u payed attention u wouldve seen all those drops were in stride. murphy had 2 and higgins 1. if u notice instead of hating u will also see how he zips the ball out on screens and swing passes now instead of those high knucklers he was throwing. he became more accurate in parts of the pats game last year and onto the texans and buccs games to end the season. he was a little better the 1rst 2 preseason games but much better on saturday. u right tho its not debateable cuz im right.
August 31st, 2009 at 8:56 pm
His returns have sucked?? When? I know your not talking about pre-season kick returns. LOL.
August 31st, 2009 at 8:59 pm
LOL. No, your not right. You sound like a moron to be truthful. He is as inaccurate a QB as ive seen, not on EVERY throw, but on enough of them.
August 31st, 2009 at 9:00 pm
Enough about Russell! He is definitely not the weakest link. The weakest link is all these cry-baby ‘fans’ that go to the games and start boo-ing their own team, 7 minutes into a 60 minute game! Our team gets crap from every NFL fan, including ours. This is a gladiator sport, designed for fans. No wonder the Raiders can’t win at home, the ‘fans’ are to busy wishing they had a different team.
August 31st, 2009 at 9:04 pm
Man-up or move on, Raider ‘fans’
August 31st, 2009 at 9:07 pm
Shut your freakn mouth Womantus! Only a newbie punk would be dumb enough to come in here and say something stupid like that.
7 minutes into a 60 minute game?? Try 7 freakn years of embarrasing garbage that Raider fans have had to put up with. People can only take so much. But you wouldnt know anything about that cuz you really dont give a fuk if they win or not.
August 31st, 2009 at 9:09 pm
Its moronic pusc fans like you who give Raider fans a bad name.
August 31st, 2009 at 9:23 pm
dude u clearly are stupid so ill leave u with this. u are a dumb attention grabbing whore who only says shit to get people riled up. u clearly dont pay attention and u arent worth the time.
August 31st, 2009 at 9:25 pm
I would roll you up like a joint bitch. You have proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that you dont know your ass from a hole in the wall. You wanna debate something boy? Lets do it. You tell me how many wins the Raiders get this year and why.
August 31st, 2009 at 9:27 pm
I’ve been going to games, my whole life, except la games. The fans have gotten worse every year (over the last 6) why do you think anyone would want to play in front of people that refuse to support them? If we started yelling at the opposing team like this, it would help this team a lot. I understand being frustrated, but fans could try to help out.
August 31st, 2009 at 9:29 pm
Mantus what section you in?…and dont worry bout dude, he likes to act tough, due to not being able to in real life.
August 31st, 2009 at 9:33 pm
mantus Says:
August 31st, 2009 at 9:00 pm
Enough about Russell! He is definitely not the weakest link. The weakest link is all these cry-baby ‘fans’ that go to the games and start boo-ing their own team, 7 minutes into a 60 minute game! Our team gets crap from every NFL fan, including ours. This is a gladiator sport, designed for fans. No wonder the Raiders can’t win at home, the ‘fans’ are to busy wishing they had a different team.
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You’re right.
It is a gladiator sport.
In ANY gladiator sport, you cheer the victor.
In any gladiator sport, you only cheer the loser if they put up a gallant fight.
When they lay down, you boo.
When they don’t give their best effort, you boo.
When you pay damn good money and expect a certain return on the money, yet continually get subpar results, YOU BOO.
Amazing that you believe fans should just blindly pay their money, then sit back and accept poor results.
August 31st, 2009 at 9:36 pm
I don’t need to prove anything to you, but I like a challenge. Well be 6-10 this year. We have no presence in the middle of the defense. Warren lacks dicipline at dt. And we don’t have anything better at this point. The offense is extremely young and will make mistakes, Murphy showed that last week. Dmc hasn’t broken a tackle since he’s been in black. And we simply don’t have enough talent for our shedule this year. Oh, and our safeties SUCK!
August 31st, 2009 at 9:42 pm
J-russ is a damn slow learner but with his ability can be like donovan or daunte in his prime. both were slow learners need i remind people Troy Aikman started his first two seasons 2-14…… i think he had an “OK” career dont you?
Never count out a QB inside three years without seeing reasonable playin time. You’ll end up eatin your words
August 31st, 2009 at 9:43 pm
Dude Says:
August 31st, 2009 at 9:25 pm
I would roll you up like a joint bitch. You have proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that you dont know your ass from a hole in the wall. You wanna debate something boy? Lets do it. You tell me how many wins the Raiders get this year and why.
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Doubt he knows his ass from a hole in the wall??
Damn.
I just learned the difference from my ass and a hole in the ground, and now they’ve changed it to wall?
Any criteria I should be aware of in advance?
August 31st, 2009 at 9:43 pm
Rich,..I paid money, wouldnt call it good money,…a pair of nice seats for a total of 12oo bucks,..not alot of money,..and I paid it knowing they werent any good,…does that give ,me a right to boo?…I boo regardless, I dont need a right to do it….money has nothing to do with it.
August 31st, 2009 at 9:45 pm
Me and a friend from work split tickets every year, section 224
August 31st, 2009 at 9:46 pm
I agree I love kirk but he’s not our guy in the middle! why is no one seein this! move him to sam keep howard at will and give BIG Ricky a shot! He more then deserves it after the camp he’s had and intensity ito blow up the middle. Kirk and tommy are the fastest linebackers in the league…. Use it Marshall!!!
August 31st, 2009 at 9:46 pm
not bad, i have a few games in the club this year, 222
August 31st, 2009 at 9:46 pm
for opner I have a pair in the club in 212,..my my season tix are in 127
August 31st, 2009 at 9:47 pm
kirk isnt that fast….average speed.
August 31st, 2009 at 9:49 pm
mantus Says:
August 31st, 2009 at 9:27 pm
I’ve been going to games, my whole life, except la games. The fans have gotten worse every year (over the last 6) why do you think anyone would want to play in front of people that refuse to support them? If we started yelling at the opposing team like this, it would help this team a lot. I understand being frustrated, but fans could try to help out.
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Why do you think they want to play in front of people that boo them?
Oh…gosh..I don’t know..maybe it’s those paychecks they stop by and pick up every Monday, that range from 15,000 EACH week to 500,000 EACH week.
I would imagine that helps “block out” disgruntled fans..you know?
August 31st, 2009 at 9:50 pm
players today arent affected by boos, I boo for myself, not for them.
August 31st, 2009 at 9:52 pm
Maybe I’ll see you there this year, can’t miss me, full tats and I’ll have my 11 year old son with me opening night.
August 31st, 2009 at 9:53 pm
North Korea officially refers to him as the “Dear Leader”.
CNN has described Kim as “one of the most mysterious leaders in the world.”
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Al Davis is the other.
August 31st, 2009 at 9:54 pm
I tell ya’ arguing about Russell at this point if a guy can’t see what we have in this young QB then telling him wont matter. I say let ‘em stew in their own juices.
IMO your either a rat or a soldier that’s just how I look at it. Football is a very violent game played by very violent men. We will see if we have the metal to meet the task come Sept. 14th I could care less about what happened Sat. If we can learn from it and grow because that game doesn’t count. From Sept 14th onward they go on your record and I want to win as bad as anyone maybe more than most. But I know where we are and we are a very young team. Losin Chaz early in the year hurts because he was Russell trusted target. Anyone could’ve gone down except ZMiller and Chaz but who goes down Chaz. DAMN IT!!!!!!!!!!!!! why him of all people we simply could not afford this NOT NOW!!
It seeems we are just up against it all the time. Chaz would’ve roasted SD so now we have to rely on two rookies against the best team in the division in the first week. So DHB and Murphy have to step up bigtime. Eventually they will both be great but this is MNF and two rookie WR’s in the spotlight.
But it is what it is.
August 31st, 2009 at 9:54 pm
full tats?..you and everyone else there bud.
August 31st, 2009 at 9:55 pm
tj,..hell with you and mike taylor, you are both cancers.
August 31st, 2009 at 10:06 pm
Yes I am a stereotypical Raider fan, I just vent on the enemy, not my team. Don’t get me wrong, I only cheer for my team, when they do something great, Luckily they’ve been saving my voice these last few years…………
August 31st, 2009 at 10:11 pm
Don’t pay your money take your ass fishing and stop complaining. But if you pay your money go root for your team to win. Being a fan of a team is like adopting a family when things go wrong you don’t booo your family you work with them.
Like i said either a RAT or a soldier……….period
August 31st, 2009 at 10:17 pm
When someone in your family needs an intervention, you try to facilitate that. Al Davis needs to retire…..period.
August 31st, 2009 at 10:20 pm
priest they let that johnson dude go which is dissapointing. we need more competition on the right side of the line. as bad as satele has been hes still learning the sysytem tho hes says hes up to speed. ill
give him time cuz hes new but green and carlisle are hurting us. i felt cable messed up by thinking too much with barnes challenging big mo. mo proved himself and i say if it aint broke dont fix it. we shouldve just put barnes at rt. its not like he was some all pro lt then i could see that.
August 31st, 2009 at 10:40 pm
222. “Morrison isn’t that fast”
Did not run at the combine, recovering from the flu.
At his pro day he ran 4.72.
Channing Crowder was considered the best MLB prospect in that draft and he ran 4.71.
August 31st, 2009 at 10:46 pm
No ones mentioning how Orton AND Simms are dinged for Denver or that Cassel may have MORE than a sprained or strained MCL.
Plus the Chefs (yes,chefs) fired Chan Gailey today. Haley’s supposedly a good play caller but he’s got alot on his docket.
Hope they both suck azz and we beat fukin SD Monday night…its on ESPN btw. Fukin lotta hate to go around that night…
August 31st, 2009 at 10:47 pm
ENGLEWOOD, Colo. (AP)—The battered Broncos are running out of time and players alike.
With just a short week left in their preseason, the Broncos are scrambling to fix a turnover-prone, mistake-filled and injury-riddled offense that’s nowhere near ready for the regular season.
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=ap-batteredbroncos&prov=ap&type=lgns
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No illusions, Moreno’s good and if we can’t shore the D and score TDs on O, he’ll kill us.
August 31st, 2009 at 11:23 pm
Man, it’s a great night to be a Raiders fan. Isn’t it?
John Marshall…John Marshall…has anyone seen John Marshall?
It’s time for this team, and this D-Coordinator, to play the right players…in the right schemes. Funny how we’re the fastest Defense around, yet we’re a step behind all the time.
No way the players are that out-classed by every single opponent, and every single player on the other team. Not every game.
Where is the spark?? Are they waiting for the rookie Mike Mitchell to be their saviour? He could be awesome someday…but he’s not going to be awesome this week.
Has anyone seen a Raiders coach chew any ass lately? In the Atlanta Falcons game the other day…after their Defense caved-in on a long TD drive…their HC Mike Smith went over to the bench and reamed the entire Defense, right in front of everybody. He was pissed, and he’d seen enough of that kind of effort.
Tom Cable has a lot of personal respect from his players, and they know he’s a fiery guy when pushed…but his fiery demeanor isn’t translating from the sidelines to the team on the field. Art Shell had the same kind of effect.
Cable’s personality needs to start coming through…or he’s got no chance. His tough, yet player-supporting, personality is a big part of what’s missing from the public eye. Every successful coach — every one in NFL history, or other sports — needs to stamp a team as their own. Just as much as any player on the team does.
Coaching enigmas may win big games occasionally…but long-term success will not come to a team led by a coach whose personality isn’t strong enough to stand on its own…while at the same time RETAINING THE RESPECT of all/nearly all of his players.
In many respects, Tom Cable and JaMarcus are in similar positions — and they both need to mature at the same time, and in a hurry this year. No excuses for either man.
August 31st, 2009 at 11:37 pm
priesttj Says:
August 31st, 2009 at 10:11 pm
Don’t pay your money take your ass fishing and stop complaining. But if you pay your money go root for your team to win. Being a fan of a team is like adopting a family when things go wrong you don’t booo your family you work with them.
Like i said either a RAT or a soldier……….period
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What you mean is either a leader, or a lemming.
You’re obviously a lemming.
Let me help you figure this out in simple terms.
In ANY business the idea is to produce a quality product.
Buy milk? And it’s bad? You go back, bitch loud and clear, and get a refund.
Buy tickets for a movie that supposed to be good?
And it’s a total bomb? you don’t politely clap..YOU BOO. That’s your ONLY recourse to voice your displeasure.
Buy tickets to a football game? Where you take your family, and plunk down $240.00 plus parking, travel, food, etc? And the product SUCKS??
If you don’t boo, you’re not just a damn fool, you’re a spineless mealy mouse fool.
If you feel that way about a football game, then very likely, in life, you’re also a puppet.
Just go along with the flow..never make waves..accept whatever happens without demanding better, or an explanation as to why you got taken.
It’s not just your right as a fan to boo when you’re presented a bad product, but your duty.
NO FAN SHOULD JUST SIT AND ACCEPT BELOW PAR EFFORT.
August 31st, 2009 at 11:52 pm
#237
Nice thoughts, Haze, but doesn’t apply in this case.
You are right. A coach does need to make it clear who’s in charge..to “light a fire”.
As you stated, Atlanta’s Smith did it.
49ers Singletary did it when he reamed Vernon Davis, then sent him to the locker room, making it clear to everyone he demanded 100%.
Except with Cable the players know he’s not in charge.
To you that want to believe he is?
Get real.
Gruden being the exception, the rest have been Al’s puppets. From Romo punching out a player, while Callahan was helpless to do anything, while Al dealt with it, to Norv benching Collins to put Tui in for the last 4 games, where Al promptly overruled him, to Randy Moss making it clear to all that he usually didn’t even try, while Shell was powerless to discipline him…to Kiffin trying to fire Ryan, and demote the recently punched out asst..both of which were overruled by Al…the players know Cable is just another marionette.
September 1st, 2009 at 12:18 am
And what/who made Gruden the exception (and certainly not the only one — just the most recent)? That would be Gruden himself.
ANY coach with the balls to do it, and can win while doing it, will be allowed to run his team his way. If Gruden can do it, why not someone else?
If a coach isn’t strong enough to stand (mostly) on his own, he shouldn’t be our HC anyway. If the guy’s not strong enough to deal with Al Davis’ personality, then he shouldn’t be the coach. But…if he’s not also willing to be loyal to his employer, to a fault, then he should not be our HC.
Tom Cable hasn’t shown a single sign of being a puppet…and he’s been under more scrutiny, from all sides, than just about any HC in the league. If he actually makes a break-through, if he can actually find a way to get these guys to put back-to-back-to-back good efforts, until they become the norm rather than the rare occurence…then Cable can have a huge career. Al’s there, and he’s not going anywhere until he goes, but he’s not in the way of Cable stamping this team as his own.
Oh, yeah…Norv benching Collins for Tui??? What part of that would make any sense at all? Tui couldn’t get off the curb, let alone into the fast lane. Collins is a capable, if not spectacular veteran, who has proven himself before and since…and never in a hundred years should Norv have benched him. Al made a great move stepping in there…Norv needed to go, and few people would argue that even now.
The best thing to happen to the Raiders since Gruden left…is the fact that Al Davis has tightened his grip, not loosened it…while at the same time, paying more attention to his own instincts, and apparently listening to better personnel advice the past couple of years.
Long live Al.
September 1st, 2009 at 12:30 am
There…that should open the hate mail.
Do not dispair Raiders faithful — this team has work to do, but this past weekend’s game will not be the bellweather for this season.
No excuses for what happened. Game-planning be damned — they ALL blew it, from coaches to players…but, they were not playing PLENTY of people who will play prominent roles for the team this year. And those who did play, did not play well for the most part. But…player packages, plays called, schemes will be much different in week-1 from what we’ve seen publicly so far.
Problems? Yes. Big ones? Some. Surmountable? If not surmountable, they can be dealt with and adjusted for. One of the NFL’s best? Not likely this year, but they can compete with the NFL’s best any day…
So, I will forever remain an optimist…and no troll, Raider-hater, Al-hater, non-fan, or even big fan, will ever convince me otherwise.
It’s always a great day to be a Raiders fan!
September 1st, 2009 at 1:47 am
LOL! I love people who re-write history…Does anyone remember Donald Hollas completely ripping Jon Gruden’s ass in the Miami game of 98′ and Gruden not doing anything?…Not too mention Gannon laying into Gruden in 2001 at Denver. This must be examples of showing them “who was in charge”.
September 1st, 2009 at 1:51 am
Idiots.
You guys that are calling for Russels head are whacked out of yer mind. This guy is not the problem. The problem is the defense and a lack of anything of relevance being worked on and ran in scrimmages. It is vanilla. Always has been. Relax. Joe Flaco. Matt Ryan. Ring bells? Over the last 4 weeks of the season JR had a higher rating then both. This Pre Season he has thrown 1 INT and it was tipped and missed. Not even his fault. Ball was catchable.
Vs. New Orleans 12/18 153 0 TD 0 INT Rating 93.1
Vs. San Francisco 7/11 76 1 TD 0 INT Rating 114.2
Vs. Dallas 6/9 50 0 TD 0 INT Rating 92.2
3 Pre Season Games and he is 25/38 279 Yards 1 TD
0 INT and has a combined rating of 99.83 and he is the problem? OK. Whatever you say genius.
September 1st, 2009 at 1:53 am
It does not matter what happens Thurs. night. Seattle should easily pounce the Raiders but maybe they will be kind. Either way this hodge podge of marshmellows is going to nuked on MFL. It is going to be the ugliest beat down in the history of MNF. Meriman is going to play like he has an IV for pure steroid juice flowing through his veins. The o-linemen will be standing there with towel drapped over forearm, saying “Right this way Mr. Merriman. There he i, Get him! (Jr.)” I have already petitioned the NFL to pull the plug on the game. Oh, please don’t be a sell out. We have a very shy team, we don’t play well on national television. The gamblers, should circle this one automatically. Which brings me to the only real hope, which is that the gambling interests. The outcome of this game is such a “given”. Maybe the gambling interest will exercise there power and keep the Raiders within the line. Which should be somewhere in the neighborhood of 38 points. I never thought I would say this but they are WORSE without Rob Ryan! OMG!
September 1st, 2009 at 2:33 am
JaMarcus is going to be the Man this year. Mark my words.
Seeing B.J. Raji bust loose and dominate makes me sick.
Fix the lines! Everything else is in place.
September 1st, 2009 at 3:01 am
Let’s just plan on having a decent “scrimmage” against Seattle, look on picking up some more run defense support after cuts are made, and hope for a good start against the Chargettes.
September 1st, 2009 at 4:01 am
Good Morning NATION!!!
September 1st, 2009 at 4:06 am
Nobody on our team really sticks the sh*t out of anybody. Big hits are very rare for the Silver and Black. The last one I saw was by Stu….
Before people start talking trash….Mike Mitchell won’t be a factor this year…..
September 1st, 2009 at 4:37 am
Good morning Rag on Raider nation!!!!!!!!
September 1st, 2009 at 4:46 am
guten morgen…
September 1st, 2009 at 4:48 am
Your boy is number 2 in N.E. I can see. Good job.
September 1st, 2009 at 4:48 am
i would be surprised if Mitchell plays this year…
and wouldn’t be surpised if he never plays for us…
September 1st, 2009 at 5:00 am
Pete the voice of reason speaks
September 1st, 2009 at 5:19 am
1 WR Maryland Darrius Heyward-Bey
2 S Ohio University Michael Mitchell
3 DE Wisconsin Matt Shaughnessy
4 WR Florida Louis Murphy
4 LB Oregon State Slade Norris
6 DE Missouri Stryker Sulak
6 TE Iowa Brandon Myers
this is what we did this year…
we drafted replacements for JLH and Schillens… better replacements… maybe… but not as much a position of need as say a RT or a DT… oh well…
we drafted a safety… from a small program who had a great agent smart enough to put a highlight film on youtube… he probably won’t play this year… probably won’t play next year either, at least not for us…
we drafted Matt Shaunessy… so what is Matt doing these days???
we drafted Slade Norris… maybe he sticks… maybe not…
we drafted Stryker Sulak… schit with a name like that… i might have drafted him… but we didn’t even sign him…
we drafted Brandon Myers… hey… an acorn said the squirrel!!!
now… what were our positions of need???
let’s see… DT, DE, MLB, RT, OG, C…
i got an idea… how’s about we draft people we need and will use right now…
and another idea is… how’s about we do a little more than look at a youtube video before we think someone is worthy of a second round pick…
September 1st, 2009 at 5:21 am
Could the D be even worse this year and if so will again go with Kelly,Warren,Sands next year and draft a speedy db.
September 1st, 2009 at 5:24 am
i think we are woefully short in the talent department…
getting Barnes back should go a long way to curing the O-line… where is Wade??? is he hurt??? if not, he needs to play… Satelle does not have it…
here’s the draft picks i had in January…
B.J. Raji, Boston College, DT, 1st Team DT Green Bay
Ron Brace, Boston College, DT, 1st Team DT NE Patriots
Augustus Parrish, Kent State, OT (released by the Saints) (I think I changed this pick before draft day)
Jasper Brinkley, South Carolina, MLB, backs up EJ Harrington
Derek Walker, Illinois, DE (released by Redskins)
Dallas Reynolds, BYU, C/G free agent signed w/Eagles, 3rd team C/G
Reynolds will be available on wednesday…
looking at Derek Walker can’t hurt… he’s good against the run…
and… looking at Parrish can’t hurt…
September 1st, 2009 at 5:25 am
hey, did you notice that i picked 2 DT’s…
a MLB, a DE…
a center, and an OT…
now… what has everyone been bitching about for the past 3 weeks…
September 1st, 2009 at 5:26 am
actually, i am very okay with Henderson… his little binge (w/o purge) last week was a mistake… hopefully he won’t do it during the regular season… but i think he’s fine… we have other issues that take precedence…
gallery was the victim of a philosophy that i simply do not agree with… any first rounder… in my opinion… should be plugged into the line-up at their position… i don’t care if it’s quarterback or halfback, left tackle or middle line backer…
if you didn’t need the guy at that position… you should have drafted someone else at a position of need…
and yes, that does mean sink or swim…
personally, i would never draft a player in the top ten of the draft under these conditions… except to refuse to sign him… and by the way, that’s exactly what i would do… i would draft a good prospect of 3rd round talent and simply tell the agent that 3rd round money is all i will be offering… sign, don’t sign… up to the agent and player…
really… why would any reasonable business man pay top-tier wages for an unproven player…
example:
Drew Brees 3/14/2006: Signed a six-year, $60 million contract. The deal contains $20 million guaranteed, including an $8 million signing bonus. 2009-2011: $9.8 million, 2012: Free Agent. Cap charge: $14 million (2009).
now let’s compare him to:
Jamarcus Russell 9/10/2007: Signed a six-year, $61 million contract. The deal contains $32 million guaranteed, including all six years’ base salaries and a $19.9 million option bonus in the second year. Also available is a onetime performance bonus of $2.8 million. Another $7 million is available through incentives. Russell earned a $3 million escalator for 2010 by taking over 45% of the snaps in 2008. 2009: $460,000, 2010: $550,000 (+ $3 million escalator), 2011: $650,000, 2012: $6.69672 million, 2013: Free Agent
September 1st, 2009 at 5:31 am
Jruss will need to get good no great quick to make me forget we could traded down and got Adrian Peterson.
GO RAIDERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
September 1st, 2009 at 5:31 am
it strikes me that taking a QB in the top ten is the dumbest thing any team can do…
the bust factor is huge… you’re not going to be able to do anything else with that player…
and so your essentially paying for the opportunity to train a player…
and if your successful… you get to re-sign him to a spectacular deal!!!
but if your not successful… you have a clipboard holder…
September 1st, 2009 at 5:33 am
Derek Walker, by the way, caught on with Seattle…
if released, we might want to look at him… he’s very good against the run… (i think)…
September 1st, 2009 at 5:38 am
it’ll be interesting to compare my draft list… to the Raiders draft list…
(and by the way, every one of those players were available to us when we drafted at that spot…)
let’s see how many of my guys make their teams and contribute… compared to the Raider list…
and then let’s think about how much better our team would be with a coupla monster DT’s, a hard hitting MLB, a good against the run DE, and a center whose ass doesn’t hit the ground during a play…
September 1st, 2009 at 5:39 am
okay…
i’m finished…
i now turn you over to your regular programming…
September 1st, 2009 at 5:49 am
what if we dont want 2B returned 2 our regular programming???
what if we dont want you 2B finished???
September 1st, 2009 at 5:50 am
LMAO
September 1st, 2009 at 6:03 am
GOOD MORNING SPORT’S FAN’S ,4EVA,PETE,SOMEBODY GET BILLY JOE HOBERT OFF THE GOLF COURSE, SEE WHAT HE CAN DO…
September 1st, 2009 at 6:06 am
i hated Billy Joe… way too freaking manic…
Garcia’s performance last week reminded me of Billy Joe…
September 1st, 2009 at 6:22 am
Morning nation!!!!
and another idea is… how’s about we do a little more than look at a youtube video before we think someone is worthy of a second round pick…
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Brinkley for PREZ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
We need a little help fasho……
September 1st, 2009 at 6:24 am
Man I hope rackoschit stills comes and visits us you know remember where she came from……..LOL
Jobless and homeless, blogger scores Elle job
http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/32634073/ns/today-today_technology_and_money/?gt1=43001
September 1st, 2009 at 6:37 am
Hey Oaklifer…morning by the way:If I cant change a players position…who’s goona be my KICK/PUNT RETURNER,because I didnt draft any
September 1st, 2009 at 6:38 am
you’re gonna have to do that yourself…
September 1st, 2009 at 6:47 am
Oh GREAT Pete…I’ll soon be 51 and right behind you on the practice field stretcher =)
September 1st, 2009 at 6:54 am
Mike Mitchell = new ST gunner?
September 1st, 2009 at 6:55 am
Cable pleased with practice rebound
and
Russell said he can prevent holding penalties by stepping up in the pocket sooner. Those dropped passes? He said he could have put it in their chest better and made better throws.
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these guys should write a book. 101 ways to polish a turd
September 1st, 2009 at 7:02 am
My big question is shouldn’t the offense dominate every practice they go against are D who wouldn’t look good.
September 1st, 2009 at 7:07 am
Hey Oaklifer…morning by the way:If I cant change a players position…who’s goona be my KICK/PUNT RETURNER,because I didnt draft any
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ST/DEF
you will get the return yards you r defense and special teams has as a unit for exsample if you had Oaklands D starting and higgins returnsa a punt for a TD you get the points yards and TD…if you go to scoring in the league it breaks it down for you
September 1st, 2009 at 7:07 am
Has Jamarcus and his mink been cut yet?
September 1st, 2009 at 7:08 am
Dang, this coffee with cocoanut creme and a couple Norcos,..awesome.
September 1st, 2009 at 7:08 am
The good news is L.A. is burning to the ground, awesome news, let it all burn.
September 1st, 2009 at 7:09 am
The fire is getting closer to the metro area,..I plead with the firefighters to not let one drop of water be used on L.A.,…its getting what it deserves.
September 1st, 2009 at 7:11 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
September 1st, 2009 at 6:55 am
Cable pleased with practice rebound
and
Russell said he can prevent holding penalties by stepping up in the pocket sooner. Those dropped passes? He said he could have put it in their chest better and made better throws.
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these guys should write a book. 101 ways to polish a turd
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yeah… the only way Russell could have done it better was to fuqqing hand it to ‘em…
receivers are supposed to catch the ball…
and 12 out of 18 times they did…
Murphy could have made it 14…
JLH could have made it 15…
it called doing your job…
September 1st, 2009 at 7:13 am
Morning Double R, Bob whats the happs fellas!!!
Bob you made Oak PD drag you out!!! LOL good work
September 1st, 2009 at 7:16 am
Ya they escorted me out,..bout 8 of them,…but I was provoked by a camera man wearing a niner ballcap. asked me how i liked game so far, it was in 4th qt,..I lost it.
September 1st, 2009 at 7:27 am
283 good work bob he should have knowin better!!!1 hope he got some good footage of you tirade!!!! we should scour niner sites till we find it!!!
September 1st, 2009 at 7:28 am
good morning AM crew.
hey there Bobby. BJ Raji looks like a beast man. sure glad we drafted him! your “insider” got it right
September 1st, 2009 at 7:31 am
ENGLEWOOD, Colo. (AP) The battered Broncos are running out of time and players alike.
With just a short week left in their preseason, the Broncos are scrambling to fix a turnover-prone, mistake-filled and injury-riddled offense that’s nowhere near ready for the regular season.
“Time is running out,” quarterback Kyle Orton said. “We have got to get some things fixed.”
And some players healthy.
The list of Denver’s sidelined players include: quarterbacks Orton (finger) and Chris Simms (ankle); wide receivers Jabar Gaffney (thumb) and Brandon Marshall (suspension); running backs Knowshon Moreno (knee) and LaMont Jordan (leg); and right guard Chris Kuper (ankle).
Jordan is the only one of the bunch who might be able to play Thursday night against Arizona, when the Broncos try to avoid their first winless preseason since 1960 with rookie Tom Brandstater or journeyman Ingle Martin under center.
By ARNIE STAPLETON
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LOL!
September 1st, 2009 at 7:34 am
ya well I was told, and still told, that raji was the guy all the way up to the time we were on clock but Al couldnt get past that dhb 40 time,..all in war room were pissed.
September 1st, 2009 at 7:35 am
and just as predicted, dhb isnt any good, maybe a 3rd round talent guy.
September 1st, 2009 at 7:36 am
wannaberocker,..unsure why you even bring up denver and their issues, we are in far worse shape.
September 1st, 2009 at 7:44 am
Man, the Seattle game means nothing as to the season, so we will be waiting another couple of weeks to see if this team has any heart.
My expectations have always been low for this team (6-10), but I may have to lower them even further come opening night.
How depressing. That is what you get when you fail to improve the o-line or d-line and have a guy as HC that is woefully inadequate. What a fukin joke.
September 1st, 2009 at 7:46 am
It wouldn’t matter if Lyle Alzado was here in his prime along with Bruce Smith.
This team has no desire they play with no pride!
They are playing for a paycheck.
I am super pissed off about it myself!
September 1st, 2009 at 7:48 am
Kirk Morrison has definitely retained his MLB spot after watching Brown run with the first unit vs. the Saints. He was terribly late to read run/pass and almost always out of position to make the tackle. When he is in position, he too often misses the tackle.
I’m thinking they should consider Slade Norris to start at SLB and let him grow into the position. He’s shown flashes and has a nose for the ball.
September 1st, 2009 at 7:50 am
53 man roster predictions:
Scottish, Dell, OAKlifer & BSJ all predicted OL Marcus Johnson would stick …
RR 1, everyone else 0
September 1st, 2009 at 7:52 am
you guys will probably break even though if we keep Desmond Bryant and cut either Joseph or Boschetti…
darn it!
September 1st, 2009 at 7:53 am
I haven’t heard any screams to cut Huff lately since Eugene & Branch were abused in the Saints game.
hmmm…. interesting
September 1st, 2009 at 7:54 am
Russell should be cut, and his mink.
September 1st, 2009 at 7:54 am
“Rookie safety Mike Mitchell is close to returning after missing three weeks with a re-injured hamstring. He also hopes to play in the opener. …”
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2009/09/01/SPVM19GI8J.DTL
I’ll believe it when I see it.
September 1st, 2009 at 7:55 am
Gacria should play entire hawks game then get start vs sd.
September 1st, 2009 at 7:56 am
f*ck mitchell,…a bust like dhb.
September 1st, 2009 at 7:58 am
Narco you are wrong Russel makes to much money to be cut! he should simply be moved to RT and then Mop handle can take his aggresion to the D-line and wholla we have fixed our problem and with Garcia at the helm Jruss protecting him and ol moppy stoping the run in the A gap we be lookin good!!!!
September 1st, 2009 at 7:59 am
is the word bust good when relating to cheerleaders of the NFL or is it all kinda the same???
September 1st, 2009 at 8:00 am
Dickey: Raiders look historically bad
By: Glenn Dickey
Special to The Examiner
September 1, 2009
SAN FRANCISCO — After the last two exhibition losses, it’s beginning to seem that the six double-digit-loss seasons that have preceded this one will be regarded by Raiders fans as the good old days.
I don’t pay much attention to a team’s win-loss record in practice games, because I know coaches are more interested in working on specific plays and issues than winning.
In my first year on the Raiders beat, they lost exhibition games to Kansas City 48-0 and Denver 21-17 before starting the season with a 51-0 rout of Denver and a 23-21 win over the Chiefs.
But even with that background, I find the last two weeks to be a dreadful predictor for the Raiders in the regular season.
After humiliating the Raiders in a scrimmage at Napa, the 49ers ran wild against them in a game that weekend. Last Saturday, the Saints passed them dizzy. What else is there?
The Raiders are completely disorganized. Well, what do you expect? Al Davis put a buffoon in charge, Tom Cable, and the players pay no attention to him.
Greg Ellis, in his first year with the Raiders after 12 years in Dallas, hinted to a writer on Sunday that the Raiders were partying too much. Cable said he didn’t know anything about that, but he was probably too busy planning for his next punch-out with an assistant.
Readers often ask me if Davis is senile, and my answer is always “No.” He doesn’t make many public appearances, but when he does, he speaks lucidly. When I was talking to Jim Plunkett before a Comcast sports show on which we both appeared, Plunkett said he sometimes sits in Davis’ box at games and is amazed by how Davis can evaluate players.
But Davis has one problem that is common to men his age: The belief that things were better when he was young.
It’s no delusion in his case. There’s no question the Raiders were better when Davis was younger. That’s when they had the great players, 12 of whom are in the Pro Football Hall of Fame, along with Davis and former coach John Madden. That’s when they won three Super Bowls — they’ve only been in one since the ’83 season, and they got smoked in that one.
The problem is that Davis is trying to relive that past. As other NFL teams have brought more qualified people into the decision-making process, Davis has concentrated all the power in himself.
His only confidants in the organization are chief executive Amy Trask and media relations director Mike Taylor — neither of them football people.
On the field, Davis insists that the team play the same way it did 40 years ago, despite all the changes in the NFL.
Rob Ryan was the whipping boy as the team’s defensive coordinator because he wouldn’t call up the blitzes that fans wanted, but that was the defensive scheme Davis wanted. That hasn’t changed now that John Marshall is the coordinator, and it won’t.
Offensively, it’s easy to imagine Davis seeing Warren Wells and Cliff Branch in his mind’s eye, flying down the sidelines to catch deep balls.
But what he has now is an inconsistent quarterback and inadequate receivers.
The Raiders’ worst record since Davis arrived in 1963 was the 2-14 record in 2006. This team will challenge that mark.
September 1st, 2009 at 8:01 am
Cubs’ 2009 season can rest in peace
http://sports.espn.go.com/chicago/columns/story?columnist=greenberg_jon&id=4429635
September 1st, 2009 at 8:03 am
I dunno OAKlifer. I’ve never seen an NFL cheerleader with a bigger bust than San Diego had (Ryan Leaf)
September 1st, 2009 at 8:05 am
Dakota: what (in your opinion) is a bigger embarrassment from Illinois? ob@ma or the cubbies?
September 1st, 2009 at 8:09 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
September 1st, 2009 at 8:05 am
Dakota: what (in your opinion) is a bigger embarrassment from Illinois? ob@ma or the cubbies?
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RRS, eat some sh!t.
September 1st, 2009 at 8:12 am
BSJ: no thanks
doesn’t go well with coffee. so how’s your day?
September 1st, 2009 at 8:14 am
DannySouthwick.com
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WHAT ???
how are we supposed to get through the day!?
September 1st, 2009 at 8:14 am
R.I.P. 2009 Cubs….and the 2009 Raiders…
might as well combine the wakes and save time…
Rockstar…I am not going there today…
September 1st, 2009 at 8:17 am
somebody get Darrius Heyward-Bey on the phone.. LaMarcus got cut !!!
CB LaMarcus Hicks (Lions)
that was a pretty funny post draft interview from DHB.
September 1st, 2009 at 8:17 am
Bo, nice article about the new owner:
http://espn.go.com/chicago/columns/blog?post=4431524&name=friedell
September 1st, 2009 at 8:20 am
The biggest embarassment from Illinois, by far, is Ronald Reagan. As both an IL and CA resident, as well as a personal sponsor of the restoration of Ronnie’s childhood home in Dixon, IL, I can state this with certainty. He was a lying, demented, vacuous simpleton who led the nation based on astrology and old movies.
September 1st, 2009 at 8:22 am
might as well combine the wakes and save time…
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the Raiders could probably use Milton Bradley & Alfonso Soriano. vet leadership
probably don’t have “Raider speed” though …
September 1st, 2009 at 8:22 am
Crisp morning air, cool breeze, a little more cloudy than usual….Fall is near…it is time for the NFL…ooops, I mean THE NBA!!!!!!
goooooo Lakers!
Man, I hope at least ND is watchable this year…
September 1st, 2009 at 8:24 am
I wish Mike Ditka would have ran for Senate instead of barack. At least that dude has some friggin balls
September 1st, 2009 at 8:26 am
Dakota: being a huge Notre Dame fan, were you pulling for us to draft Brady Quinn over LaMarcus?
and would you be surprised if Gruden replaced Weiss next year?
September 1st, 2009 at 8:27 am
75-7 Dakota or 34 in a row I want something special for this repeat. Good lord is Mitchell ever gonna play .
September 1st, 2009 at 8:29 am
somebody get Darrius Heyward-Bey on the phone.. LaMarcus got cut !!!
CB LaMarcus Hicks (Lions)
that was a pretty funny post draft interview from DHB.
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Didnt catch that you have a link??/
September 1st, 2009 at 8:30 am
Rockstar,
I always wanted Russell over Quinn for the Raiders. I knew Quinn couldn’t throw a deep ball…when he tried at ND, he would throw it high and short and the WR would have to stop and jump backwards to catch the ball. It seemed to work against college DBs, but I knew that wouldn’t work in Oakland.
The guy is a leader and I think he will be a good NFL QB in the right system. If Gruden was still our coach, I would have wanted Quinn over Russell…I think Quinn would be a perfect Gruden QB. But otherwise…sorry.
And as far as Weiss is concerned, I think his big contract and easy 2009 schedule will keep him at ND for a while longer…but I would love to see Gruden take over ND.
September 1st, 2009 at 8:30 am
if cable doesn’t get it together…
Gruden will be here next year…
September 1st, 2009 at 8:33 am
Mitchell’s NFL career is over…
over except for the funeral…
expect that notice sometime before the final cuts…
let’s see… who could we have had at that spot in the draft???
probably nobody any good, i’m sure…
2nd round… what could be left???
September 1st, 2009 at 8:35 am
Pete,
Gruden would be smart enough to run the hell out of Bush, McFadden and Fargas…
…but he would have to be told that Russell was untouchable, and that he would not be allowed to bring in John Lynch, Warren Sapp, D. Brooks, and Booger McFarland lol.
September 1st, 2009 at 8:36 am
Florida Pete Says:
September 1st, 2009 at 5:19 am
1 WR Maryland Darrius Heyward-Bey
2 S Ohio University Michael Mitchell
3 DE Wisconsin Matt Shaughnessy
4 WR Florida Louis Murphy
4 LB Oregon State Slade Norris
6 DE Missouri Stryker Sulak
6 TE Iowa Brandon Myers
this is what we did this year…
we drafted replacements for JLH and Schillens… better replacements… maybe… but not as much a position of need as say a RT or a DT… oh well…
we drafted a safety… from a small program who had a great agent smart enough to put a highlight film on youtube… he probably won’t play this year… probably won’t play next year either, at least not for us…
we drafted Matt Shaunessy… so what is Matt doing these days???
we drafted Slade Norris… maybe he sticks… maybe not…
we drafted Stryker Sulak… schit with a name like that… i might have drafted him… but we didn’t even sign him…
we drafted Brandon Myers… hey… an acorn said the squirrel!!!
now… what were our positions of need???
let’s see… DT, DE, MLB, RT, OG, C…
i got an idea… how’s about we draft people we need and will use right now…
and another idea is… how’s about we do a little more than look at a youtube video before we think someone is worthy of a second round pick…
September 1st, 2009 at 8:40 am
Didnt catch that you have a link??
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no man. I saw it live (TV)
never read anything about it from a transcript or anything – sorry
he said he was looking forward to catching some passes from “LaMarcus” though. LOL
September 1st, 2009 at 8:41 am
i think we are woefully short in the talent department…
getting Barnes back should go a long way to curing the O-line… where is Wade??? is he hurt??? if not, he needs to play… Satelle does not have it…
here’s the draft picks i had in January…
B.J. Raji, Boston College, DT, 1st Team DT Green Bay
Ron Brace, Boston College, DT, 1st Team DT NE Patriots
Augustus Parrish, Kent State, OT (released by the Saints) (I think I changed this pick before draft day)
Jasper Brinkley, South Carolina, MLB, backs up EJ Harrington
Derek Walker, Illinois, DE free agent picked up by the Seahawks (released by Redskins)
Dallas Reynolds, BYU, C/G free agent signed w/Eagles, 3rd team C/G
hey, did you notice that i picked 2 DT’s…
a MLB, a DE…
a center, and an OT…
now… what has everyone been bitching about for the past 3 weeks…
September 1st, 2009 at 8:43 am
not be allowed to bring in John Lynch, Warren Sapp, D. Brooks, and Booger McFarland
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I’d rather have McFarland, Chuck Darby, Kevin Carter, Brooks & Lynch than Sands, Boschetti, Norris, Alston & Eugene !!!
September 1st, 2009 at 8:45 am
he said he was looking forward to catching some passes from “LaMarcus” though. LOL
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LOL ahhh post DRAFT…I thought it read post game…my bad I heard that as well…I thought he was trashing “LaMarcus” in the ‘aints post gamer….
September 1st, 2009 at 8:46 am
Jasper Brinkley, South Carolina, MLB, backs up EJ Harrington
!!!!!!!!!!!PREZ !!!!! Jasper
September 1st, 2009 at 8:46 am
i wouldn’t want Sapp on this team even if his salary was paid by the broncos…
September 1st, 2009 at 8:49 am
I think in order to bring JaMarcus back down to earth from contractland he should have to make a Kmart shoe just like Al Harrighton (nba) did “you dont have to be rich to play the game” almost choked on my cheerios when I heard that this morning..LOL…he should be advocating selling shoes to kids in East Oakland for 16.99 a pair……”the bomber” they could be black with white or sivler trim and come custome with a stash “snack” spot….
September 1st, 2009 at 8:49 am
i wouldn’t want Sapp on this team even if his salary was paid by the broncos…
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Take that back….lol
September 1st, 2009 at 8:52 am
By Adam Schefter
ESPN
Archive
Oakland Raiders cornerback Nnamdi Asomugha is expected to be sidelined about two weeks with a chipped bone in his left wrist, according to a team source.
Missing the time now will not be the issue. Just how debilitating the injury is will be a major concern throughout the season, however.
Asomugha is the top bump-and-run cornerback in the league. If his wrist is bothering him, it’s going to be more challenging for Asomugha to grab wide receivers at the line of scrimmage.
Asomugha is the least of the Raiders’ concerns after their dreary weekend against the Saints — just the latest one.
September 1st, 2009 at 8:52 am
I think we should drop Warren and Sands FAT & LAZY rotate Bryant Joseph and Boschetti at least these guys hustle everyplay if we cant stop run with any one on this D- Line roster at least players that husle might make something happen on any given play.. Cut the Fat
September 1st, 2009 at 8:53 am
wow…I just try an trade lee evans for chris henery in one of my FFL leagues and dude shot me down….Evans plays on a offense that has T.O. (he will get looks) Chris henry while looking good in the preseason is still buried on depth charts….Thought it was a good trade I guess trent Edwards is diminishing my WR!!!!!!
September 1st, 2009 at 8:54 am
OAKlifer: Russell doesn’t need K-Mart
he’s already a sponsor for Jello Pudding …
September 1st, 2009 at 8:56 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
September 1st, 2009 at 8:54 am
OAKlifer: Russell doesn’t need K-Mart
he’s already a sponsor for Jello Pudding …
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…and Hooked on Phonics…
September 1st, 2009 at 8:58 am
Chris Henry is not a starter. He’s behind Chad Johnson and Lavern Coles
Lee Evans is starting opposite T.O. and is currently still the Bills #1 WR
Carson Palmer is still dinged up. Trent Edwards isn’t.
whoever turned that trade down isn’t the sharpest tool in the shed …
September 1st, 2009 at 8:59 am
Here we go with the Russell bashing again I am sure he gave up 45 Saturday
September 1st, 2009 at 9:06 am
thats what I thought Double R the only reason I was looking to make the deal is I have T.O. on my team and need a bye week filler…I was going off a little preseason magic that henry has sparked but this dude is downing the Henry kool-aid….I think he wilol have a good not great season in Cincy if he is allowed to even play all 16 games…oh well Ill find a taker!
September 1st, 2009 at 9:08 am
omniscience,
Brother actually on of Russells supporters here just think he needs to get his head out of the clouds thats all…and selling a shoe at walmart isnt excatly all bling and fur its real life oakland kids…….which is where he is
September 1st, 2009 at 9:08 am
The Guy has played 1 year in the N.F.L who cares of what he is getting paid. everyone in the Leauge is getting paid Wilson and Hall are still getting checks and not even on the squad. If you had the Raider fans E.S.P.N N.F.L. channel and all the media hype waiting for you to fail so they can call you a bust like Alex Smith after 1 year. That would Suck….
September 1st, 2009 at 9:10 am
Omni: Russell has completed 25 of 38 passes through 3 preseason games. 279 yards, 1 TD, 1 fumble (lost)
thats 65 percent of his passes. not bad considering we’ve been mainly pass happy to try and get the pass offense fully functional prior to Week 1 on MNF …
also consider the drops, terrible pass protection, lack of run plays, no Chaz, Javon or Khalif. pretty impressive if you ask me
we just like to have fun with the youngster. I like to call him JaWalrus
September 1st, 2009 at 9:13 am
The kid is 22 if he wants to pimp fur & bling oh well as long as he is not getting caught smoking crack in the motel 6 or maybe betting on your local dogfight in Oaktown Who knows what he does for the Kids am sure he has some kind of Charity deal..
September 1st, 2009 at 9:15 am
Well maybe russell just needs to throw the ball to himself, block for himself, stop the run, and play safety to help against the pass. it is unexceptable for a QB to all a team to score 45 point in a pre-season game. A QB can’t allow his WR to drop passes and for his line to get beat on blocks.
Worse pick ever
Ryan Leaf has nothing on Russ
Leaf stats
gms ATT CMP PCT YDS YPA LNG TD INT SKD SKY RAT RAT+
25 655 317 48.4 3666 5.60 0 14 36 65 377 50.0
September 1st, 2009 at 9:17 am
It’s all good just hate to have defend my Boys aganist all these Niner busters who feed off what we give them. and all they ever say to defend there poor squad is we got five we got five Sad Very Sad….
September 1st, 2009 at 9:18 am
McRaider5150 Says:
September 1st, 2009 at 9:15 am
Well maybe russell just needs to throw the ball to himself, block for himself, stop the run, and play safety to help against the pass. it is unexceptable for a QB to all a team to score 45 point in a pre-season game. A QB can’t allow his WR to drop passes and for his line to get beat on blocks.
Worse pick ever
Ryan Leaf has nothing on Russ
Leaf stats
gms ATT CMP PCT YDS YPA LNG TD INT SKD SKY RAT RAT+
25 655 317 48.4 3666 5.60 0 14 36 65 377 50.0
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my god…
people have been executed with stats better than that…
September 1st, 2009 at 9:20 am
who was supposed to block Roman Harper on that safety blitz where Russell got clobbered and dropped the ball?
everybody blames Cornell Green, but he can’t take on a DE like Charles Grant or Will Smith and knock a safety on his back at the same time. Harper should have been blocked by a RB, FB or TE. So who missed thier assignment?
September 1st, 2009 at 9:21 am
The problem is not Russell.
The problem is the structure, discipline that is lacking for a young QB in this organization
No GM No VP of Ops No head coach with any authority, he only answers to Al Davis and nobody drinks more JaMarcus Russell Kool-aid than Al Davis.
Look at Matt Ryan or Joe Flaco those are tightly ran organizations from top to bottom it is the kind of environment where a young QB can be successful.
We do NOT put Russell in the situation to be successful with that patch worked O-Line and rookie WR’s. Seriously if he was the QB for the NY Giants (that offensive line)he would have a QB rating over 100.
September 1st, 2009 at 9:22 am
Pass Protection exactley who is Mcray I heard that guys name Saturday in the backfield more than Russell.
September 1st, 2009 at 9:23 am
even the Saints backup DE’s Paul Spicer & Bobby McCray (both former Jaguars) are as good or better than our starters …
September 1st, 2009 at 9:25 am
Hopefully we can follow the dischargers lead and pickup some defensive and offensive players.
The dischargers acquired defensice tackle Travis Johnson, a “first-round-pick” in 2005, who never lived up to expectations, from Houston for an undisclosed draft pick in 2010.
You never really know if a guy is a failure until he’s failed elsewhere, not just with “one-team.” Maybe with different coaching and a different scheme which favors his attributes, a guy can flourish? Since he’s with the dischargers, obviously, I hope he fails…at least when he plays against us!
September 1st, 2009 at 9:29 am
Well said S&B and a young man coming into that situation and progresing at the pace he is shows some Character Remember Oakland never has had a so called Franchise QB usally Vets so we may have to ride this out and hopefully he will get what he needs to be sucsessful.With this young WR crew and TE and RB think we are headed in right direction
September 1st, 2009 at 9:29 am
We could put a sign on the door:
Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning for a job,
The wretched refuse of your team.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,
Al Davis and the Raider company…
(hey… we gotta find players somehow…)
September 1st, 2009 at 9:29 am
Anyone who believes that Facco or Ryan would have have won more that 5 games with the Raiders last year, have never played football and know nothing about the game.
September 1st, 2009 at 9:31 am
We got Joseph and Warren first rounders. Warren needs to back his bags keep Joseph
September 1st, 2009 at 9:31 am
Russell is the least of our problems right now.
Al Davis and Tom Cable are at the top of the problem list…at least one of them can be fired….
September 1st, 2009 at 9:32 am
anyone who believes something that i don’t has never played football and knows nothing about the game…
and…
you probably have bad breath…
and your momma does too…
September 1st, 2009 at 9:35 am
Cancun: we’ve tried some former 1st rounders recently
Kwame Harris, Greg Ellis, Javon Walker, Gerard Warren, Napolean Harris & William Joseph …
September 1st, 2009 at 9:38 am
Like I said lets keep guys like Nixon,Bochetti,Bryantand Joseph from what i see they want to play ball not like Warren& Sands need i say more..
September 1st, 2009 at 9:42 am
Nixon, Bryant and Nick Miller are great practice squad candidates
September 1st, 2009 at 9:44 am
I just can’t figure out what the problem is….I mean…
we have the next madden as HC,
Al Davis is the best owner in sports,
DHB was a great pick,
Mitchell is the second coming of Tatum,
our passing game is impossible to stop,
our front seven is great, especially the DTs who are always doubled and totally dominate,
our RT is vastly underrated,
our Center is way better than Grove…
I mean, what is our problem Priesttj? I think it is the fan’s fault right? If we only gave the team positive vibes they would be dominant right?
September 1st, 2009 at 9:47 am
Put them on the practice squad there they will sit till week ten we need youth & hustle not old and fat after bringing aboard in week ten we will say this guys pretty good cant wait to see next year..like Chaz
September 1st, 2009 at 9:49 am
Dakota: you’re exactly right!
Cable & Russell should come out and boo the fans in our home opener …
September 1st, 2009 at 9:52 am
Its six years of poor attidude toward the game hopefully things will change according to Cable and players I do believe we have the piecies. need D line help to turn it around
September 1st, 2009 at 9:53 am
Chaz Scilens was never on the practice squad. He was buried on the depth chart behind Curry, Lelie, Walker and Higgins.
that would be the same scenario if any of those undrafted scrubs made the 53 man roster … they’d be inactive for 16 weeks (what’s the use?)
you think Cable is going to keep Rankin over Fargas? you think he’ll start Brown over Morrison at MLB?
fat chance.
September 1st, 2009 at 9:55 am
Al…listen…get together with Marshall, Washington and the other people that were in the room when Cable assaulted Hanson and have them report the truth to the police…Cable will then be arrested and you can void his contract based on conduct detrimental to the team.
Then step away as GM, let Madden take over as interim GM to hire a good, young GM and then let that GM hire the coach…the sooner the better…it’s not like we are going to the playoffs this year anyhow…
September 1st, 2009 at 9:56 am
Wow….Carolina and San Diego trade conditional draft pick picks to get DT help and the old man and Raiders sit on their a$$es and do nothing to get any DT help in here….when it is freakin obvious new fresh blood is needed.
September 1st, 2009 at 9:58 am
# Dakota Says:
September 1st, 2009 at 9:55 am
Al…listen…get together with Marshall, Washington and the other people that were in the room when Cable assaulted Hanson and have them report the truth to the police…Cable will then be arrested and you can void his contract based on conduct detrimental to the team.
Then step away as GM, let Madden take over as interim GM to hire a good, young GM and then let that GM hire the coach…the sooner the better…it’s not like we are going to the playoffs this year anyhow…
^^^^^^Boy what a stupid move that would be and it would cause this season to be like last season. A complete waste because of more coaching turmoil.
Now a move like that would be embarassing….
September 1st, 2009 at 9:58 am
Everybody needs to come back off the ledge, just a little. There are definitely some issues to worry about with this team. Stopping the run is of course No. 1. But it’s only the preseason. It was only one game — Other than the Run D, the Raiders were looking good in the other two. So relax. Drew Brees and the Saints are going to average 30+ points this season. They’ll probably score 40+ multiple times. It happens. The offense, hopefully, isn’t going to drop a half-dozen passes per game and fumble it away 3 more times. It was a sh-tty game. It guarantees nothing. Just like beating Dallas 31-10 guarantees nothing.
And seriously, how can you call DHB a bust when he hasn’t played a single reg. season down and is playing a position that is notoriously difficult for rookies to break through at?
And really, calling Mike Mitchell a bust when he hasn’t even played a preseason down yet? WTF? You can worry about his hamstring issue since it’s now a recurring thing. But you have no idea whether he’ll be the next Jack Tatum, a washout or somewhere in-between.
Let’s just get psyched for SD in Week 1 and quit all the moaning and whaling about everyone who has anything to do with this team.
September 1st, 2009 at 10:01 am
One thing you have to remember about the practice squad is that those players aren’t locked up. Anybody you put on the practice squad is a pseudo free agent who can be signed away by other teams if those teams are willing to put them on their 53-man roster.
September 1st, 2009 at 10:02 am
Pete likes to moan and whale tho!!!!
September 1st, 2009 at 10:03 am
# omniscience Says:
September 1st, 2009 at 9:17 am
It’s all good just hate to have defend my Boys aganist all these Niner busters who feed off what we give them. and all they ever say to defend there poor squad is we got five we got five Sad Very Sad….
^^^^^^^Niner fans are freakin stupid….they act like their team is so much better than the Raiders but last I saw at least the Raiders made it to the Super Bowl in 2002 and the Niners haven’t been there in freakin 15 years.
September 1st, 2009 at 10:04 am
Wow….Carolina and San Diego trade conditional draft pick picks to get DT help and the old man and Raiders sit on their a$$es and do nothing to get any DT help in here….when it is freakin obvious new fresh blood is needed. sheesh…
September 1st, 2009 at 10:04 am
R.R you are right but who started at the end and who was let go this was Kiffins team at first took a little time to weed out the losers like Hall & Wilson Rankin might beat out Fargas lets wait and see Reece looks to make squad not L.Neal
September 1st, 2009 at 10:06 am
Chris
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Good post. Couldn’t agree more. Countless players have taken time to develop. Some have been called busts and turn out to be gems (one of which QB’ed us to a couple of titles).
Lets not write them off before they play a game, fellas.
Jeez.
For numbers people, this may serve to brighten your spirits:
AFC West Preseason
Team W L T Win %
Oakland 1 2 0 .333
San Diego 1 2 0 .333
Denver 0 3 0 .000
KC 0 3 0 .000
And we could have beat SF. We went for two in a preseason game and had an overeager rookie FA drop a punt with less than 2 min to go.
I don’t even think we’re the worst team in the division, much less the NFL.
September 1st, 2009 at 10:07 am
Raiders need to work on their screen plays and perfect them. They can be a valuable weapon offense….and also get DHB and JLH the ball on WR screens and reverses.
September 1st, 2009 at 10:07 am
One thing you have to remember about the practice squad is that those players aren’t locked up. Anybody you put on the practice squad is a pseudo free agent who can be signed away by other teams if those teams are willing to put them on their 53-man roster.
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I’m not worried. If some other team wants to sign our scrubs – more power to’em
might make starters in Denver or KC. LOL
September 1st, 2009 at 10:08 am
Dakota Says:
Then step away as GM, let Madden take over as interim GM to hire a good, young GM and then let that GM hire the coach…——
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hey, didn’t you say Madden was too old to run this team? Meanwhile, you supported Grandpa Munster for President!!!?!!
lol
September 1st, 2009 at 10:10 am
Rankin might beat out Fargas lets wait and see Reece looks to make squad not L.Neal
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Omni: Lorenzo Neal was cut before the 49ers game
and I sure hope you’re not talking about Oren O’Neal!
September 1st, 2009 at 10:10 am
glad to see more positivity before i bail talk to you boys later Win Lose or tie Raiders till we die…..
September 1st, 2009 at 10:12 am
yip rue that and who is Wilson????
September 1st, 2009 at 10:13 am
More numbers from our preseason
Offense
PTS
19.3
(12th)
YDS
330.0
(11th)
PASS YDS
231.0
(8th)
RUSH YDS
99.0
(21st)
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These are far more sobering, though, just to be fair and balanced.
Defense
PTS
25.3
(30th)
YDS
399.7
(32nd)
PASS YDS
188.3
(8th)
RUSH YDS
211.3
(32nd)
Our rushing yardage and PPG should improve. Our rushing yardage allowed per game will probably be similar to last year. Our points per game allowed won’t be that bad.
Everything went right for NO and that 45 really ruins any average we have, and that 7 we put up the same for our offensive stats (that was not a pun, but take it as one if you wish).
September 1st, 2009 at 10:13 am
ahh gibril…N/M
September 1st, 2009 at 10:15 am
I’m fed up… The fact that Jmac is not a super bowl caliber QB after his first full year of being a starter, is totally unexceptable. I mean. look at Elway, Aikman, Plunkett, Young, and Stabler…
Weren’t that SB qb’s after they started their 1st 16 games??? This is a travisty!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
September 1st, 2009 at 10:15 am
didn’t you say Madden was too old to run this team? Meanwhile, you supported Grandpa Munster for President!!!?!!
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considering the options I think many would have even voted for Larry the Cable Guy over barack …
September 1st, 2009 at 10:17 am
DMC has an av. YPC over 6 in limited action. Russell’s above 60 % completion and no INTs.
He will lead more TD drives because we will be running more, screen passes, etc., not going deep to the outside every play. Lots of Miller and Myers in the red zone, and DMC will be lined up all over the field.
Relax, guys, offense will be fine.
Defense on the other hand……
September 1st, 2009 at 10:17 am
I know he was cut my point is we were all happy we got Lorenzo but Cable seems to have know problem in letting guys like this walk i know may have been injured but did not show much when in his time was up.
September 1st, 2009 at 10:19 am
We’ve seen teams win the SB with great offense and poor D, and vice versa.
Obviously, we want to be balanced, but Rome was not built in a day. Davis himself said, more or less, we’re rebuilding.
September 1st, 2009 at 10:20 am
Flway got his first SB after 12 years in leauge
September 1st, 2009 at 10:25 am
Omni: big difference between Fargas & Neal. Fargas has lead the team in rushing 3 years straight and is on scholarship. Neal only has 1 more year left in the tank, but is still considered one of the best run blocking FB’s in the league
I doubt we cut Neal because Marcel Reece is a beast. We cut him because Oren O’Neal is making a comeback. OO is a sledgehammer if he can remain healthy
September 1st, 2009 at 10:27 am
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September 1st, 2009 at 10:27 am
considering the options I think many would have even voted for Larry the Cable Guy over barack …
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RIGHT, 8 MILLION MORE PEOPLE VOTED FOR Obama THAN YOUR candidate. Live with it righty.
September 1st, 2009 at 10:28 am
Flway got his first SB after 12 years in leauge
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And they had to cheat the salary cap by $95 mil to do it.
September 1st, 2009 at 10:39 am
HayesDaze37 Says:
September 1st, 2009 at 12:18 am
And what/who made Gruden the exception (and certainly not the only one — just the most recent)? That would be Gruden himself.
ANY coach with the balls to do it, and can win while doing it, will be allowed to run his team his way. If Gruden can do it, why not someone else?
If a coach isn’t strong enough to stand (mostly) on his own, he shouldn’t be our HC anyway. If the guy’s not strong enough to deal with Al Davis’ personality, then he shouldn’t be the coach. But…if he’s not also willing to be loyal to his employer, to a fault, then he should not be our HC.
Richochet: You live in a strange fantasy land.
What made Gruden tenacious and obstinate also got him a one way ticket out of town. While Al lives to be the face of the franchise, he no longer was..GRUDEN WAS..and Al would have nothing to do with it.
Save the “loyal to a fault” nonsense. Being constantly undermined isn’t conducive to being in charge. Having someone stab you behind your back, TO THE MEDIA, isn’t a positive feel good situation. If your employer is a total a-hole, and you can get work elsewhere, by all means announce it to the world.
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Tom Cable hasn’t shown a single sign of being a puppet…and he’s been under more scrutiny, from all sides, than just about any HC in the league. If he actually makes a break-through, if he can actually find a way to get these guys to put back-to-back-to-back good efforts, until they become the norm rather than the rare occurence…then Cable can have a huge career. Al’s there, and he’s not going anywhere until he goes, but he’s not in the way of Cable stamping this team as his own.
Richochet: Yep, it’s official. You chase parked cars. Cable has done NOTHING to put his stamp on a single thing, period. Isn’t this the EXACT same thing you and most said when Shell was hired? When Kiffin was there?
Cable was so uninspiring that Al was looking for SOMEONE/ANYONE up until the absolute last day of naming Cable the guy.
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Oh, yeah…Norv benching Collins for Tui??? What part of that would make any sense at all? Tui couldn’t get off the curb, let alone into the fast lane. Collins is a capable, if not spectacular veteran, who has proven himself before and since…and never in a hundred years should Norv have benched him. Al made a great move stepping in there…Norv needed to go, and few people would argue that even now.
Richochet: geez..you’re such a lemming. WRONG. At the time Collins had lost 7 STRAIGHT..and couldn’t hit water from a boat (BTW..prior to AND after the Raiders he did do well..for some ‘ODD REASON’ while with the Raiders his career tanked..wow..where have I heard that before?) At the time Tui was an unknown and the Raiders had his as #2..YOU BEST KNOW IF YOUR #2 CAN STEP IN.
Yeah, Al overruled Norv, (WHICH EVERY PROSPECTIVE HC APPLICANT SAW) and Collins went back in, AND STUNK UP THE PLACE, and LOST 4 STRAIGHT).
Season was already over. Norv did what should have been done.
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The best thing to happen to the Raiders since Gruden left…is the fact that Al Davis has tightened his grip, not loosened it…while at the same time, paying more attention to his own instincts, and apparently listening to better personnel advice the past couple of years.
Richochet: And the above comment is why you are viewed as being a babbling boob.
Al’s THE OWNER, NOT THE HC.
“paying more attention to his own instincts had his shell out $270 MILLION IN FA none of which panned out..read again…NONE.
“listening to personnel advice”?? LMAO..I love that..comedy.
Ok..without help..tell me..WHY IS IT NO QUALITY PROSPECTIVE HC WANTS TO EVEN ENTERTAIN THE IDEA OF COACHING IN OAKLAND.
It’s a very simple question. WHY DO I KNOW YOU WON’T ANSWER IT?
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Long live Al.
Richochet: Many, including myself, hope he’s around for another 30 years
Can you figure out why?
September 1st, 2009 at 10:40 am
TW: I can’t call you lefty, we already have a member named that (Lefty12) haha.
so how are things in donkland?
are they depressed after getting beat by Jay Cutler, Orton getting hurt and Marshall being suspended all in the same week?
September 1st, 2009 at 10:43 am
I loved tell the zDonkey fans here that Elway is marrying a Raider cheerleader!!lol, they are as depressed with their team as we are with ours. I still expect to win my bets!!!lol
September 1st, 2009 at 10:53 am
Anyone watch the Monday night game? See Peterson have 7 carries for 115 yds?
While watching that game..I noticed Phid Loadhoalt RT (2nd Rd pick) blow open that hole that lead to Peterson’s 85 yd Touchdown. Thats why the Vikings have a team on the verge of the SuperBowl. Good personel decisions..Got a great RB..protect hime and beef up the O-line. ..Al Davis drafts a great back..next yr two receivers, a defensive end and a safety that will last 2yrs in the nfl before he gets cut!
Whats the point of drafting a star RB , QB, Receivers if the O-line sux! Typical Al Davis..he is a jackass
September 1st, 2009 at 10:54 am
Saints released DT Rod Coleman today.
September 1st, 2009 at 10:57 am
angelo: sort of like having a great CB duo, huh?
why should teams pass when you can’t stop the run?
San Diego will have at least 40 rushing attempts on Week 1 and Rivers will whipe his butt with Eugene & Branch and Morrison/Brown if they are forced to cover Antonio Gates …
September 1st, 2009 at 11:01 am
Nnamdi out against SD. Now Norv and Phillip have two thirds of our secondary to work with. They were going to work us down the middle and run up our gut no matter what. Now they have Nnamdi’s side open? This could be a massacre. Our only hope is a shootout.
September 1st, 2009 at 11:03 am
Chaz Schilens & Khalif Barnes out.
Asomugha likely out. Mitchell & Walker limited.
our offense better score some points or this game will be over by halftime. I expect SD to score at least 28 points (hopefully no scores on defense or ST on top of that!)
Cable better get the ball into the hands of our playmakers. That means a heavy dose of Zach Miller, McFadden, Bush and Higgins. That being said I expect Fargas to start with Louis Murphy getting the most passes thrown his way …
September 1st, 2009 at 11:04 am
mornin nation!
all i gotta say is its ridiculous how al’s had total contol of this team the past years and everything is his way.
September 1st, 2009 at 11:05 am
SD’s going to play the pass and force us to run, rockstar. Why wouldn’t they? They’d have to want to lose to do otherwise. They’re going to come after Russell big time. We have to run the ball, slow the game down and keep it low scoring. Try and keep our offense off of the field. I don’t think we’d beat them in a shootout. Not with our pass blocking.
September 1st, 2009 at 11:06 am
Excuse me, try and keep our defense off the field, is what I meant.
September 1st, 2009 at 11:07 am
This could be a massacre. Our only hope is a shootout.
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thats what I’m saying. CJ & Routt will be fine, but Routt gets beat at least twice for big gains and/or scores per game. Hope he’s on Chambers and not Vincent Jackson
Rashad Baker will probably be the nickel DB and Huff in on dime. not sure how many 3rd down attempts they’ll have though if Tomlinson & Sproles both average over 5 yards per carry!
September 1st, 2009 at 11:08 am
ESPN’s reporting that Nnamdi’s out 2 weeks. I know you guys hate them but their reports are almost always right.
September 1st, 2009 at 11:11 am
ESPN has sources farther inside every team than local reporters do. Their reports are always right. If they’re saying Nnamdi’s out for two games, he is. Teams will deny ESPN’s reports, local reporters will question them, they always wind up right. Their sources are mostly former players and coaches who talk on the phone with players, coaches, and even GMs. You don’t get better sources than that. Period.
September 1st, 2009 at 11:14 am
Gust: San Diego loves to bring the heat, which makes thier DB’s vulnerable
1st down – run blitz
2nd down – run blitz
3rd down – pass blitz
that’s what I expect to see much of. Our hope is for the o-line and whoever else (RB, FB or TE) to give Russell enough time for a dumpoff pass to Miller (in 2 TE sets) or McFadden (besides single back) we might try a deep ball early to Heyward-Bey or Higgins, try to keep them honest. If Russell can’t get the ball out, isn’t accurate or the WR’s can’t catch it won’t matter. they’ll stack 8 in the box and dare us to run. We haven’t been able to run against thier Jamal Williams’ lead D-Line for years.
September 1st, 2009 at 11:15 am
Our o line isn’t going to give him the time, rockstar. I don’t deal with hope. I deal with realistic scenarios. We have to slow the game down. I don’t know why I said earlier that our only hope is a shootout because there’s no way we’re shooting it out with SD. Our O line is not there yet. And, Cable has only made them better run blockers. So why not play to that strength? Because Cable isn’t running the team.
September 1st, 2009 at 11:17 am
# Gust372 Says:
September 1st, 2009 at 11:11 am
ESPN has sources farther inside every team than local reporters do. Their reports are always right. If they’re saying Nnamdi’s out for two games, he is. Teams will deny ESPN’s reports, local reporters will question them, they always wind up right. Their sources are mostly former players and coaches who talk on the phone with players, coaches, and even GMs. You don’t get better sources than that. Period.
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Are you joking? ESPN always jumps the gun on its reports. Not saying that’s the case with this one, but they’re FAR, FAR, FAR from 100% accurate.
Also, I saw this report on the ESPN site and it wasn’t clear that Nnamdi would miss the opener. It said he’d be out two weeks. Does that mean two reg. season games? The last preseason game and the opener? Or just this week’s practice/preseason game and next week’s practice leading to the opener? The opener is a full two weeks from yesterday.
September 1st, 2009 at 11:21 am
Should I even bother watching the opener? It’s looking like another Monday night embarassament is on the way.
September 1st, 2009 at 11:22 am
Gust372 Says:
September 1st, 2009 at 11:11 am
ESPN has sources farther inside every team than local reporters do. Their reports are always right. If they’re saying Nnamdi’s out for two games, he is. Teams will deny ESPN’s reports, local reporters will question them, they always wind up right. Their sources are mostly former players and coaches who talk on the phone with players, coaches, and even GMs. You don’t get better sources than that. Period.
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Somewhere in ESPN, someone has printed the above out, and everyone sat around, laughing, pointing, and saying “Can you believe this guy? They told us there are those out there that believe this, but until this, I just thought they were blowing smoke. Ok, quick, who has a bridge we can sell this guy?”
You know..if they’re weren’t gullible people, we wouldn’t have any use for the word, gullible.
September 1st, 2009 at 11:22 am
Chris, give me an example of when ESPN is wrong with their reports. Mind you, I’m talking about news reports, not commentary or opinions. But reports. Their reports are almost always right, despite being denied by teams and having local reporters trying to play the fence and question them. ESPN employees a crack squad of former players and coaches who have insiders at every team, including the Raiders. That pipeline is more powerful than any resources the local outlets have. IBA’s saying maybe Nnamdi’s out. ESPNs’ saying he is. He is. Trust me.
September 1st, 2009 at 11:24 am
Our O line is not there yet. And, Cable has only made them better run blockers. So why not play to that strength? Because Cable isn’t running the team
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I think SD will stack the box and force Russell to beat them with his arm. I’m not sure Russell is ready to put this team on his back and beat a playoff calibur football club – especially one that has owned us for 6 straight years. Everybody and thier brother knows that the Raiders want to run the football with McFadden, Bush & Fargas. Russell is still unproven and is without his #1 WR. They aren’t worried about our passing game. who would be? We finished 31st in that category last year!
September 1st, 2009 at 11:25 am
Richochet, your turn. Give me one example of ESPN bungling an NFL report. They rarely do it. You can argue using sarcasm and ridicule all you want, because you know you have no argument to refute my point. Weak.
September 1st, 2009 at 11:29 am
21 Out for opener. Great…
September 1st, 2009 at 11:30 am
21 or not, its a major loss,..huge blowout. 21 in game wouldnt matter.
September 1st, 2009 at 11:30 am
rockstar, norv turner has coached here. he knows the deal. The raiders will not run the ball, so why stack the box? They’re going to play the pass and come after Russell.
September 1st, 2009 at 11:30 am
my alameda guy told me the raiders are already conceding the opener. wont play 21.
September 1st, 2009 at 11:32 am
garcia should start that game…at least it wouldnt shell shock russell him bein on sidelines.
September 1st, 2009 at 11:32 am
Man, that fire in LA is ugly.
September 1st, 2009 at 11:33 am
russell is such a fragile baby the ass whuppin sd will lay on him will linger all year, possibly all career. dont play him.
September 1st, 2009 at 11:34 am
Jerry has not been able to put up a new post yet because he is still crying over the news.
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Raiders All-Pro cornerback Nnamdi Asomugha will miss the season opener against the San Diego Chargers with chipped bone in his left wrist, ESPN reported Tuesday morning.
Asomugha will miss Thursday’s preseason finale against Seattle as well as Oakland’s season opener on Sept. 14 against the Chargers. Citing a Raiders team source, ESPN Asomugha will be sidelined two weeks but there’s concern that his injury will be bothersome throughout the season.
September 1st, 2009 at 11:36 am
Dec 3, 2007 … Jon Gruden labeled an (expletive) lie to a report from ESPNs Chris Mortensen that QB Jeff Garcia has a hairline fracture in his back.
“”I don’t know why (Mortensen) would say that unless he got the X-rays himself,” Gruden said.”
Mort is always wrong and so is A.S he is a punk
“No, I don’t (have a fracture). What does Chris Mortensen know?” Garcia said. “I don’t know if he knows his head from his tail sometimes.”
There is plenty more on line but it is my lunch time…
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September 1st, 2009 at 11:38 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
September 1st, 2009 at 11:07 am
This could be a massacre. Our only hope is a shootout.
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thats what I’m saying. CJ & Routt will be fine, but Routt gets beat at least twice for big gains and/or scores per game. Hope he’s on Chambers and not Vincent Jackson
Rashad Baker will probably be the nickel DB and Huff in on dime. not sure how many 3rd down attempts they’ll have though if Tomlinson & Sproles both average over 5 yards per carry!
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I’d start Huff over Routt any day. Routt sucks a ball.
September 1st, 2009 at 11:38 am
Gust: I’m sure SD knows they can beat Cooper Carlisle & Cornell Green without blitzing a safety.
However, I don’t expect them to play nickel & dime all game long and give us a shot at ripping them a new one on the ground like the Vikings did without a QB either.
Everyone in the football world is predicting the Raiders to be a Top 10 rushing team, not a Top 10 passing team. I think they’ll try to stop the run, since our passing game doesn’t pose a threat – that would make the most sense
September 1st, 2009 at 11:39 am
Hey it’s Baby Albert Bigelow! I haven’t seen you whining around here in weeks. I guess with school starting and all, you’ve been busy picking out just the right lunch box to impress the 11th grade chicks.
After all, if you’re going to stand out from the other pimply 10th graders you’ve gotta have a cool box to match your new haircut.
Baby Albert, you will be excited to know that we have a new freaky adolescent on the blog – probably around your age – named Lil Ricky. His favorite holiday ever is Halloween and he can pound a case of Monster energy drinks in about 15 minutes.
You know that poor kid Tweek from South Park? Ricky is him wired x15. He’s only had about an hour of sleep in the past 2 weeks and chewed his toenails off this morning before breakfast.
Anyway, welcome back Baby Albert, you silly little dweeb!
September 1st, 2009 at 11:39 am
Norco I wonder who wanted Garcia here. If it was Al, then he likely just wanted Garcia to keep another team from getting him. If it was Cable, who knows? We could have a coup in the works. Another Gruden/Kiffin. I hope so. Cable did knock out an assistant known for being a Davis brown nose. Let’s hold the good thought. Im’ thinking maybe Cable is sabotaging Russell with horrible playcalling to get Garcia in there. It’s a crappy thing to do, but it could be a necessary evil. Russell is not an NFL quarterback. So the more he overachieves, the longer it takes to get a real long term plan in motion. The sooner he fails, the sooner things can get moving.
September 1st, 2009 at 11:40 am
@TW:
you live out in donkeyland too?
thornton here
anyhow, it’s always a good day when the donkeys are crap…tends to take away the pain from watching the raiders falling to crap…again
September 1st, 2009 at 11:42 am
I’d start Huff over Routt any day. Routt sucks a ball.
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start Huff at corner ???
If you didn’t want Routt in there and Nnamdi is hurt our starter is probably Justin Miller (like the Tampa game last year)
September 1st, 2009 at 11:42 am
Richochet: Many, including myself, hope he’s around for another 30 years
Can you figure out why?
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because your gay???
was i the first???
what do i win???
September 1st, 2009 at 11:43 am
You guys should read Schefter’s report. Says he’ll be out for two weeks, not out through week 2.
If thats 2 weeks starting yesterday, when his injury was evaluated, expect Aso to play in the opener, hes a gamer and everyone on the planet knows we need him.
September 1st, 2009 at 11:45 am
Aso will be out there against SD. He may not be as effective, but he’ll play.
And why worry? Bowie and Routt are just as good.
Muhahahahahahahaha. Gallows humor.
September 1st, 2009 at 11:45 am
I’d still start Huff… Yes at CB. Miller can’t cover and Routt taught Miller how NOT to cover, so Imma go with Huff. At least we know he can cover. Can’t read or break on a ball, but if you give him 1 guy to cover, he can do a decent job. Routt looks like Clements covering JLH in preseason no matter who he is covering. If Routt starts oposite he give up 14 points by himself garanteed. I have no faith in him other than to cover the slot.
September 1st, 2009 at 11:48 am
I would take Justin Miller at corner over Routt. He played well last year.
September 1st, 2009 at 11:50 am
Nevermind. Justin Miller has turf toe (Jerry’s article above) – remember what a pain that was for C Wood ???
September 1st, 2009 at 11:53 am
Gives Nick Miller a chance to shine returning kick-offs though. And maybe, just maybe Huff at CB. Be funny if we found out Huff is another shut down corner LOL and after all this failure at saftey. Won’t happen though, but it would be funny.
September 1st, 2009 at 11:54 am
new post
September 1st, 2009 at 11:54 am
God knows we are gonna be returning alot of kicks Sept 14th LOL.
September 1st, 2009 at 11:57 am
yeah. what idiots we would look like forcing a shutdown corner to play at strong safety. LOL!
I think Justin Miller’s injury opens a door for Rashad Baker, Darrick Brown or John Bowie to make the team – not Nick Miller. and that’s only if Justin lands on IR … Rankin & Higgins can also be used on kick returns
September 1st, 2009 at 11:59 am
esm69, yeah, I’m out in Aurora, I still expect to collect on my bets with the Donkeys. Man, they are worse than us!!!
I heard that Calif is so broke & mismanaged that Arnold decided to burn it down and collect the insurance!!!
lol
September 1st, 2009 at 7:22 pm
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