Nnamdi promises he’ll play in opener
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Tuesday, September 1st, 2009 at 2:31 pm in Oakland Raiders.
Nnamdi Asomugha left no room for gray areas.
The Raiders’ Pro Bowl cornerback and best defensive player vowed he would play when they host the San Diego Chargers on Sept. 14.
Diagnosed with a chip fracture with cartilage damage, Asomugha said there will be no surgery.
“(The doctor) said that there was a fracture and some cartilage damage,” Asomugha said. “Said that it would in the normal world be like six weeks in a cast.”
The NFL, of course, is about as far from the normal world as you can get when it comes to athletes and injuries. Asomugha will probably end up playing in a soft cast, although he’ll wait and see.
“Depends on how it feels at that point,” Asomugha said. “At that point it might feel fine, just based off the rehab where I might not have to wear much.”
The injury could affect Asomugha in terms of being able to use his hands in press coverage against receivers. More likely, Philip Rivers will avoid Asomugha and the bigger problem will be in tackling.
Which is how Asomugha got hurt in the first place against New Orleans in stopping Saints wide receiver Devery Henderson.
“First play of the game, on a reverse, when I went low,” Asomugha said. “I just got kicked. Same way I did my elbow last year.”
Cable said he expected Asomugha to wear a cast and participate in practice in preparation for the game.
“I’m not sure you really have to (limit him with it) in the cast,” Cable said. “He’ll be wanting to prepare for that the right way and all of that as well.”
More news and notes:
– Wide receiver Louis Murphy didn’t finish practice with a foot sprain. Cable said he didn’t think it was serious, while Murphy said it was just a bruise and expected to play.
If Murphy didn’t start, Cable said Javon Walker, and not Johnnie Lee Higgins, would start alongside Darrius Heyward-Bey.
– Murphy said he has put Saturday’s ball security issues in the past.
“The pace of the game hasn’t really changed and the pressure doesn’t bother me,” Murphy said. “The first ball slipped out of my hands, the second was stripped out of my hands and the third was a drop. I really don’t feel it was a big deal. I’ve been working on ball secruity all week_ even more than I usually do.”
– Wide receiver Nick Miller, the undrafted free agent on the bubble at wide receiver along with Todd Watkins and Jonathan Holland, won’t put any added emphasis on what could be his last chance to make the 53-man roster.
“If I go out there like that I’ll be nervous,” Miller said. “If you play out of your game, you’re not going to play well. Every day is like a big practice for me and every practice is like a game.”
– Cable noted the Seattle game was a chance for players to not only make the Raiders roster, but possibly get a look elsewhere as well.
`I think the significance of it is for this team to come back out and again go at playing Raider football the way we want to play it,” Cable said. “Most importantly it’s the opportunity, for a lot of guys, because you put this on film not just for us to look at it but other teams in the league. It’s a pretty big deal.”
– Players lined up after practice for a chance to meet Ice Cube, with quarterback JaMarcus Russell visiting the longest.
– Linebacker Slade Norris (calf) was back in a limited basis, going through warmups and drills, but did not participate in team sessions.
– Cable estimated there are between 40 and 42 players who have the roster made, barring injury.
– Updates on starters and how long they would play will be following the walkthrough Wednesday, Cable said.
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September 1st, 2009 at 2:32 pm
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Cut and Paste! Cut and Paste! My mom thinks I am gay!”
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I post some really stupid stuff and get slapped here all day long.”
“For I love Michael Crabtree! He’s my favorite 49′er.
He whipped me with his penis once and gave me a lovely shiner.”
“Been so long since have I’ve seen him. My dreams they are a crashin’.
He’s got the greatest football skills but I really miss his fashion.”
“I’m hoping that The Raider Fans will help me grow a sack.
And hoping Mr. Crabtree will help me paint it Silver & Black…”
September 1st, 2009 at 2:36 pm
Nam better play. It seems to be the only one on defense that actually wants to play. Everyone else on that unit just want to cash their checks.
September 1st, 2009 at 2:38 pm
I was trying to remember who replaced Namdi during the TB game last year. Was it Routt? I dont remember him playing.
September 1st, 2009 at 2:39 pm
Told ya so.
Is JLH in the dog house or what?
Maybe they just want to limit him to PR/KR, not risk injury lining up at WR.
September 1st, 2009 at 2:39 pm
I think I might still start Rivers and Gates week 1 vs the Raiders D…
September 1st, 2009 at 2:39 pm
It seems like everytime Namndi finally makes a great tackle he has to come out the game because he is dinged up.
September 1st, 2009 at 2:41 pm
Bengals get a clause in the contract of Andre Smith that cuts his pay if he gets overweight. Al should have put that in for Russell.
Teams are starting to make moves. Time for Oakland to look for some DTs and Ss…..and some OTs, OGs, and Cs.
September 1st, 2009 at 2:44 pm
Walker should start or play the majority of the Seahawks game. He needs the work and it will keep starters from injury.
September 1st, 2009 at 2:45 pm
Andre Smith fractures foot Tuesday, just two days after signing with the team
Wow that was quick!!
September 1st, 2009 at 2:46 pm
Dakota:
1. Dude, you really need to get some. You’re the most negative, biotchy S.O.B. on this site. And that’s really saying something.
2. If you’re gonna get a HarDD_-on over 2 preseason games, then you clearly haven’t watched enough football to know the preseason doesn’t mean squat.
3. When the Raiders DO put together a string of wins together this season, you better come in here and put your tail between your legs like a puppy.
That goes for you, Brien the General, MaddenRaider & all the other non-stop babies.
This isn’t life and death man. It’s football and that’s all.
We love our team, period. I’ve got way too much serious things in life to worry about than to do nothing but biotch about my football team all the time.
Hey, I got an idea for you –
How about you actually enjoy being a Raider fan for a while?
September 1st, 2009 at 2:48 pm
Cable estimated there are between 40 and 42 players who have the roster made, barring injury.
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who wants to bet 3 of them are Fargas, Green & Eugene?
September 1st, 2009 at 2:48 pm
We are just a C, RG, RT, NT, MLB, RDE, FS, SS and coaching staff away from the Super Bowl!
How is that for positive thinking?
September 1st, 2009 at 2:51 pm
Raider75 Says:
September 1st, 2009 at 2:44 pm
Walker should start or play the majority of the Seahawks game. He needs the work and it will keep starters from injury.
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Agreed, Walker needs to put in work prior to opening night. Cable’s been cautious enough at this point, throw his @$$ to the wolves.
Honestly, I say DHB and Murphy as well, although I don’t see that as likely.
Saw something on Mario Henderson Twitter page addressing DHB, to the effect of ‘you’re going to light it up on MNF.’
Wonder if they’ve been holding him back because they want to showcase him and ’shock the world,’
or, more likely
they’re being overly cautious with him when his @$$ needs to be thrown to the wolves as well.
Regardless, I have a feeling we see a lot of Nick Miller, Louis Rankin, and Gary Russell.
September 1st, 2009 at 2:53 pm
Silver-n-smac,
So you don’t believe that our D’s performance in SF against the run and against N.O. is relevant because it occurred in the preseason? You don’t think it is an indication of things to come, especially when we had one of the worst defenses against the run in the NFL that past few seasons? You can’t be that naive can you?
Do you really believe that the Raiders D will just turn it on come week 1?
September 1st, 2009 at 2:54 pm
# Dakota Says:
September 1st, 2009 at 2:48 pm
We are just a C, RG, RT, NT, MLB, RDE, FS, SS and coaching staff away from the Super Bowl!
How is that for positive thinking?
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Dakota:
Tell me this:
List me 10 teams that you think are seriously legit Superbowl teams right now.
I’ll answer for you. There aren’t 10 teams that meet that criteria.
The league has about 5 good teams and it’s a crap shoot the rest of the way. There’s no reason in the world the Raiders don’t produce between 6 to 9 wins this year.
For every deficiency you say the Raider have, those other 27 teams have a bunch as well.
September 1st, 2009 at 3:00 pm
# Dakota Says:
September 1st, 2009 at 2:53 pm
Silver-n-smac,
So you don’t believe that our D’s performance in SF against the run and against N.O. is relevant because it occurred in the preseason? You don’t think it is an indication of things to come, especially when we had one of the worst defenses against the run in the NFL that past few seasons? You can’t be that naive can you?
Do you really believe that the Raiders D will just turn it on come week 1?
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Dakota:
I’ve watched football for 30 years and have seen some absolutely horrible football played in the pre-season, and guess what? It means nothing.
There is no accurate way to guage what goes on in a pre-season game. Only the coaches know what they’re trying to accomplish on any given play. The preseason is the time to try out all kinds of matchups and plays, and in crazy combinations that you would never see in the regular season.
Do you really see the Raider giving up back-to-back +250 yard games to opposing runners? Give me a freakin’ break man. Nobody is saying this defense is top-10.
We don’t even need a top-20 defense to go 7-9. This team is a work in progress and they have enough talent to be in the 7-9 and 9-7 range. There is no reason they can’t do that. You act like we need a stellar front 7 on defense to win.
I simply cannot believe the weight some of you guys put on these stupid games in August.
Amazing.
September 1st, 2009 at 3:00 pm
# raidertay Says:
September 1st, 2009 at 2:38 pm
I was trying to remember who replaced Namdi during the TB game last year. Was it Routt? I dont remember him playing.
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I think Routt may have been hurt for that game. I remember Justin Miller getting burned for about a 50-yard TD. Not sure if he was starting or the nickel corner though.
September 1st, 2009 at 3:01 pm
Silver-n-smac,
I really don’t care about the other teams, I care about the Oakland Raiders. Maybe you can take comfort in knowing that other teams suck almost as much as us, but it gives me little solace…glad to see that your expectations are so low for the Oakland Raiders…but some of us still expect the Commitment to Excellence and Team of the Decades crap to mean something. Sounds like you are just making excuses.
September 1st, 2009 at 3:02 pm
Routt & Huff were both in the doghouse last year.
Routt even got demoted from nickel corner in favor of Rashad Baker.
September 1st, 2009 at 3:03 pm
I heard a die-hard here in Alameda today say that someone needs to do a “Princess Diana” on Davis, and get that limousine.
September 1st, 2009 at 3:04 pm
time to clock out. 5pm in Podunk
September 1st, 2009 at 3:06 pm
Smac,
Wow, I am predicting a 6-10 season and you are claiming we might have a 7-9 season…sorry to be so far off from what you are predicting for this team, lol. I guess the difference between us is that you are fine with losing and I am not.
September 1st, 2009 at 3:06 pm
We ended the season with some very solid games by the defense. We have upgraded at some positions and the younger players now have that experiance to draw upon.On paper we should be better. Games aren’t played on paper. I say thank god for these two lousy VANILLA D showings. Thats what preseason is for. Banking on the strong finish to last season soI think we are going to be ok.
September 1st, 2009 at 3:06 pm
10-6
September 1st, 2009 at 3:07 pm
9-7
September 1st, 2009 at 3:07 pm
Well, that’s a start: Jamarcus stayed after practice. Unfortunately, it wasn’t to work on his game, but to rub elbows with Ice T. Oh well. Baby steps.
September 1st, 2009 at 3:10 pm
Our running game will be very good. Just start Mcfadden.
September 1st, 2009 at 3:10 pm
Ice Cube. Sorry. I get all those frozen water guys mixed up.
September 1st, 2009 at 3:12 pm
Jerry…
Speaking of the cut list. When in the h3ll are you going to cut that joke of an IT team, and get this posting to fast cr@p FIXED!
September 1st, 2009 at 3:13 pm
No More Infield Or Trolls Says:
September 1st, 2009 at 3:10 pm
Our running game will be very good. Just start Mcfadden.
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You can’t take anything for granted with the Raiders except excessive penalties.
I wouldn’t be surprised if the Raiders went away from the running game in favor of Al Davis’ new toy, DHB.
September 1st, 2009 at 3:15 pm
Silver-n-Smac Says:
September 1st, 2009 at 3:00 pm
Do you really see the Raider giving up back-to-back +250 yard games to opposing runners? Give me a freakin’ break man. Nobody is saying this defense is top-10.
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Well, since we gave up 435 combined rushing yards in back to back games just last DECEMBER against NE and SD, it certainly isn’t out of the realm of possibility now is it?
Give ME a break man…what have we done to improve the run D? Hire Marshall who usually has a run D ranked in the bottom ¼ of the nfl?
September 1st, 2009 at 3:16 pm
# Dakota Says:
September 1st, 2009 at 3:06 pm
Smac,
Wow, I am predicting a 6-10 season and you are claiming we might have a 7-9 season…sorry to be so far off from what you are predicting for this team, lol. I guess the difference between us is that you are fine with losing and I am not.
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No Dude, I’m not fine with losing.
But, I’m also realistic. When you’ve had 6 consecutive years of atrocious football, there’s obviously been a serious losing culture around this team.
That doesn’t change overnight. This has been a painfully slow rebuilding process, but, if you step back and look at this roster, it is one of the youngest and most potentially talented teams at the skill positions.
The problem is that the rebuilding of our front lines is not yet complete, and the owner has even acknowledged that.
So I’ll say it again. This team can easily win 8-9 games. And that’s what I’m seriously expecting.
And I just don’t see them winning less than 7 games.
So yes, you and I ARE miles apart. Your best case scenario is 6-10.
My best case scenario is 10-6.
September 1st, 2009 at 3:20 pm
No More Infield or Trolls Says:
September 1st, 2009 at 3:06 pm
We ended the season with some very solid games by the defense. We have upgraded at some positions and the younger players now have that experiance to draw upon.On paper we should be better. Games aren’t played on paper. I say thank god for these two lousy VANILLA D showings. Thats what preseason is for. Banking on the strong finish to last season soI think we are going to be ok.
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What positions have we upgraded on? We replaced Burgess with Ellis? We replaced Richardson with Scott? Oh man…we are gonna kick some ass on D this year fo sho!
September 1st, 2009 at 3:22 pm
Dakota,
I think Smac has a point.
Its not that theres satisfaction to be had in that other teams suck (other than perhaps the Broncos), but that there are several other teams in the same boat, talent wise.
If they’re in the same boat, an we happen to play them, well on any given Sunday, you know how it goes.
Good teams lose to poor ones. Poor ones lose to worse ones. It happens. We get a few bounces go our way, we could be a winning team.
This same D, more or less, held their own in Miami, KC, SD, and Buffalo games last season. If we played more disciplined, wrapped up here, got a third down conversion there, we could have been 7-9 last year or better.
Never be satisfied with less than excellence. That being said, this is still a work in progress, but at least we’re crawling out of the hole as opposed to digging ourselves in deeper.
September 1st, 2009 at 3:23 pm
Silver-N-Smac
The thing about it is, when the Raiders come in with 6 wins, that throw away moniker of yours will be nowhere to be found. Whoever you are.
September 1st, 2009 at 3:24 pm
You are right Dakota, we will. You did forget the main addition… The new DC. And don’t give me that crap about how Al is the real DC.
September 1st, 2009 at 3:26 pm
The d played great to finish the year. That means more to me than two preseason games. BTW the d looked pretty good against dallas…
September 1st, 2009 at 3:28 pm
during the last 25 years the raiduhs have more losses than wins…must be that damned hip hop thing Ice Cube is talking about, cause it sure as hell is not Al Davis’ fault.
September 1st, 2009 at 3:28 pm
wildcard
September 1st, 2009 at 3:29 pm
# KoolKell Says:
September 1st, 2009 at 3:23 pm
Silver-N-Smac
The thing about it is, when the Raiders come in with 6 wins, that throw away moniker of yours will be nowhere to be found. Whoever you are.
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I’m sorry for being dense, but, I have no idea what the hell that means.
If the Raiders go 0-16, I’ll still be a Raider fan till the end dude.
I’ve seen every game over the past 30 years, either in person, on T.V. and/or the radio.
Hell, I even tape the radio broadcasts and listen to them throughout the week on my commute to work.
I love this team and have seen them at their greatest.
I’m just not finicky.
I don’t boo the team or it’s players, whether it be Jay Schroeder, Marc Wilson, Jeff George, Marcus Allen, Howie Long, Kenny King or Steve Smith.
Period.
The Boston Celtics sucked for a long, long time. But, they turned it around and won the title a few years ago.
Good teams always turn it around.
This isn’t the Bengals dude.
This is the Oakland Raiders.
My memory doesn’t only go back 6 years.
September 1st, 2009 at 3:29 pm
NMI,
Yep that great DC…just don’t bother to look at his record against the run…you might not be so confident…
And oh yeah, the starting D, looked great against Dallas…on one drive!!!!
September 1st, 2009 at 3:31 pm
Its interesting with all the positive talk last year about Higgins and Schilens that Higgins won’t have any opportunity to start. You would think being in his 3rd season that Higgins is really the most ready out of the group of receivers.
Schilens proved to be a 7th round steal so its easy to see why he was starting.
Walker SHOULD be a start based on his experience and resume but his mental state and injuries have left him out of the starting group.
DHB is a rookie and though hes really fast, he doesn’t seem to be as effective like Schilens and Murphy are at this point though he does pull the coverage towards his side and that can help just as well.
Murphy looks like Schilens is some ways and he comes from a college Champion so you can see how his confidence is high as well as his talent but hes a rookie as well.
So whats going on with Higgins? He’s been our biggest playmaker on special teams and on offense so far. Hes a deep threat but a guy who can take a short pass and turn it into 78 yards. Hes not the biggest guy but he doesn’t need to be. I just question why he isn’t getting the chance. I almost feel like they’re saving him to ensure he doesn’t get hurt with all of our recent injuries. DHB (Hamstring), Schilens (Broken Foot), Walker (Knee) and Murphy (Foot Sprain). Higgins seems to be the most healthy and maybe the team is just trying to keep it that way?
September 1st, 2009 at 3:32 pm
Dakota says:
Well, since we gave up 435 combined rushing yards in back to back games just last DECEMBER against NE and SD, it certainly isn’t out of the realm of possibility now is it?
Give ME a break man…what have we done to improve the run D? Hire Marshall who usually has a run D ranked in the bottom ¼ of the nfl?
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First of all, this team won’t give up nearly as many rush yards as last year because we will have a much more proficient offense last year (more experienced QB & even better run game) and will control the ball much better.
This alone helps the defense. That was one of last year’s biggest problems. This defensive line was suckin’ wind all year long because the offense went 3-and-out far too often.
September 1st, 2009 at 3:34 pm
24
I had similar questions with regards to JLH.
Either they’re restrcting him to ST duty only or primarily.
Hes being kept fresh for the regular season
Or hes in the dog house for some reason.
Maybe combination?
I also thought this was strange.
September 1st, 2009 at 3:35 pm
Meant to say we’ll have a much more proficient offense THIS year.
September 1st, 2009 at 3:35 pm
The ravens D won a damned superbowl with a 3 & out offense led by Dilfer. If the D sucks, it sucks, no need to sugar sht coat it saying the O also sucked.
September 1st, 2009 at 3:35 pm
Silver-N-Smac
I was born & raised in Oakland, started going to the games in 1964. I’ve been on this blog as KoolKell since it started, and I’ve never seen your moniker before.
I don’t doubt you love the Raiders, just that when they under perform, that Sliver N Smac moniker will be gone, and you won’t have to answer for your predictions.
September 1st, 2009 at 3:36 pm
I’m not saying our run defense will be better but the stats could be deceiving this preseason because Cable was truly working on the passing game. Maybe someone can find the stat (I’m lazy) but it seems like the team passed 75% of the time in all of their games because their main goal was to get a passing game going. Well obviously, running the ball sets up the pass and since we didn’t do that very often, our offense wasn’t running down the clock and controlling the tempo and that left our Defense to work on conditioning all game long.
Things will be different once the regular season starts because we will run 75% instead and not running has kept our running backs healthy outside of Fargas (no shock). Once we start running and doing play action and roll outs, our offense will stay on the field longer and our defense will be rested. Cable just accomplished what he felt he needed to accomplish and that wasn’t winning preseason games.
September 1st, 2009 at 3:36 pm
Smac,
Don’t just look back 6 years, look back 25 years…how many SBs have we won? That’s right…zero…this is the Oakland Raiders, we measure success by Super bowl trophies…not 9-7 seasons with playoff appearances. You might have considered those seasons a success, but most Raider fans want championships. And please, don’t hit back with the old “hey how many times have the Cardinals, Bungholes, and Lions won in the last 25 years” line because that will just mark you as someone who has now lowered his expectation of the Team of the Decades so low that you aren’t even worth talking too.
September 1st, 2009 at 3:39 pm
The Raiders should use Jamarcus’ BBQ concession to pay for free agent signings in the off season.
September 1st, 2009 at 3:40 pm
they know what JLHcan do.they dont need 2C him,they need 2 evaluate others,imo
September 1st, 2009 at 3:41 pm
# KoolKell Says:
September 1st, 2009 at 3:35 pm
Silver-N-Smac
I was born & raised in Oakland, started going to the games in 1964. I’ve been on this blog as KoolKell since it started, and I’ve never seen your moniker before.
I don’t doubt you love the Raiders, just that when they under perform, that Sliver N Smac moniker will be gone, and you won’t have to answer for your predictions.
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Kell. . . .come on man. Are you serious? Am I supposed to give you a prize for being on this blog since it started?
Hell, the only reason I even discovered this blog is that I realized that I didn’t need to wait for my morning paper to read my Oakland Tribune! LOL So I hopped onto this web site and noticed the blog. And now I check it out every day.
So I beg to differ friend – I’m sure you’ll see my posts here and there all throughout the season.
And if I need to eat crow, I’ll be the first to admit my ignorance!!!
September 1st, 2009 at 3:43 pm
Hey Dakota,
You doing ok man? Do I need to jump back on the Al Davis hating program with you again? Haha. I have given up on that for now as it gets us nowhere. I’m just curious to see if a 5-11 team can really turn things around this year. I have no expectations. I lost those long ago.
September 1st, 2009 at 3:43 pm
24,
Doing just fine my man. How about yourself? You married that lady of yours yet?
September 1st, 2009 at 3:45 pm
whenever anyone has any discussions with Dakota,he ALWAYS falls back on the losing must be fine with you but not me crap.nobody who is a fan of any team is satisfied losing.however,when someone has been as bad as the Raiders have been the last 6 years(yes 6 yrs KK,not 20),any progress should be welcomed.would we all like to win the SB every year-hell yes.will it happen-hell no.what we want to see is the team getting better.i won’t be totally satisfied until we win another SB,but i’ll be satisfied this year if we show much improvement.
September 1st, 2009 at 3:45 pm
Smac,
Don’t just look back 6 years, look back 25 years…how many SBs have we won? That’s right…zero…this is the Oakland Raiders, we measure success by Super bowl trophies…not 9-7 seasons with playoff appearances. You might have considered those seasons a success, but most Raider fans want championships. And please, don’t hit back with the old “hey how many times have the Cardinals, Bungholes, and Lions won in the last 25 years” line because that will just mark you as someone who has now lowered his expectation of the Team of the Decades so low that you aren’t even worth talking too.
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That argument is lame as well Dakota.
Hell, why don’t we just go back like 50 years?
So let’s see, so the team with the most superbowls in that time span has been in 6 bowls and has 6 trophies.
We’ve been in 5 bowls and we have 3 trophies.
You make it sound like we’re so far off.
And yes, considering that the superbowl is hard as hell to achieve, I do consider winning seasons to mean something.
Otherwise, why bother watching. We may as well all slit our wrists after that one team wins the bowl each year.
Come on man – I have super high expectations for the Raiders.
But, do you realize how stupid you sound biotching and bashing every little thing they do?
At least acknowledge that they are 1-2 years away from being a legit contender.
There’s no need to overhaul the roster. They simply need 3-4 more really good players to do that.
September 1st, 2009 at 3:45 pm
Hi Kell and friends,…hey has Russell been cut yet?…by the way 21 shouldnt play san diego game, that games already over, let him heal another weak.
September 1st, 2009 at 3:46 pm
Damn this movie apocolypto is hard core.
September 1st, 2009 at 3:47 pm
Hoping I get out of Iraq in enough time to catch the opener. Waiting on my replacement to get over here…Man it would be great to land at SFO, take BART and get a scalped ticket in time to run to my seat while JLH is returning the ball down the sidelines for six!
September 1st, 2009 at 3:48 pm
Bro stay in Iraq, its more pleasant then Oakland.
September 1st, 2009 at 3:49 pm
ESPN Insider
If quarterback is the most important position in the NFL, backup quarterback might be second, as the New England Patriots learned in Week 1 last season when Tom Brady was injured. With that in mind, Scouts Inc. ranks the backup quarterbacks from 1 to 32:
1. Jeff Garcia, Oakland Raiders
Even though he has been a little nicked up this preseason, he is still the best of the backup crop. He has Pro Bowl experience and playoff experience, and in the West Coast offense he is the most capable backup in the NFL.
2. Jon Kitna, Dallas Cowboys
He was injured last season in Detroit but was the starter as recently as 2007. He is a smart and savvy veteran who is prone to making mistakes in critical situations, but he also has a gunslinger’s mentality that allows him make a lot of plays off the bench.
3. Billy Volek, San Diego Chargers
He has not taken many snaps over the last few years as a backup for the tough and gritty Philip Rivers, but Volek is still an elite backup. He lacks big-time arm strength, but he is smart and has a great understanding of the offense, which allows him to get rid of the ball quickly to beat the defense.
4. Tarvaris Jackson, Minnesota Vikings
Some people might think this is a little high for him. Though he has not been a dominant starter, he has something a lot of backups these days don’t have — experience in big-time situations. He is not as accurate as you would like, especially in the vertical passing game, but he can beat you in the short-to-intermediate area and he can pick up first downs by running.
5. Matt Leinart, Arizona Cardinals
Talentwise, all the pieces are there for him to start. Mentally, there are questions about how much he likes the game. He is a left-hander with a solid arm. He was a winner at the college level and was thought of as a great leader coming out of college, but he has not put in the work to make that translate at this level.
September 1st, 2009 at 3:49 pm
57. “Must be cocktail hour…Eh!”
You’re such a Douche!
September 1st, 2009 at 3:50 pm
“The pace of the game hasn’t really changed and the pressure doesn’t bother me,” Murphy said. “The first ball slipped out of my hands, the second was stripped out of my hands and the third was a drop. I really don’t feel it was a big deal.
oh, now that we got that clear. your fired!
September 1st, 2009 at 3:50 pm
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I agree with you that the emphasis has been on developing the passing game this pre-season.
I’m not so sure that once the season starts we will be a run-heavy team. How many of the last 6 years were the Raiders a run-heavy team? In fact not since the Tyrone Wheatly year were the Raiders allowed to be a run-first team.
I suspect Al Davis will again insist on the passing game. With his new toy DHB being the Bomb target. Vertical baby!
September 1st, 2009 at 3:50 pm
Let’s clear a few things up about KrappyKell right off the bat -
* Krappy may be a long time fan, but for the past 20 years he’s been taking 3 – 4 dumps in his pants a day, so that cancels those years out
* Krappy has a bad habit of mistakenly sticking his old head in his microwave instead of his Lean Cuisine, then cooking it for 2-3 minutes on high. This is the main reason for his Al Davis delusions/paranoia and cut and paste of lame articles obsession.
* Krappy routinely over-medicates himself on a combination of Benadryl and oatmeal, so he often wanders around the neighborhood pantless scaring innocent children
* His grandson is Brian the Genital
Hope this helps.
September 1st, 2009 at 3:52 pm
Oh little Rob, havin another bad day? lol…poor little guy,…guess you belong to Kells club of miserable bitter raider fans,..thats too bad for you.
September 1st, 2009 at 3:53 pm
“The pace of the game hasn’t really changed and the pressure doesn’t bother me,” Murphy said. “The first ball slipped out of my hands, the second was stripped out of my hands and the third was a drop. I really don’t feel it was a big deal.
ok, now that everything’s clear. your fired!
September 1st, 2009 at 3:53 pm
I understand many fans here being upset over the past 6 years. They have to a right to voice their complaints.
But the season is about to start and the same people are bitching 24/7/52/365. I would get on the Tunabandwagon and start talking about Chad for player of the year before I would make myself and everyone around me miserable because I despise everything about my favorite team. That makes no sense.
We have nothing but upside to look forward to over the next few years.
Our first ever #1 pick is a QB with huge upside and a super fantastic arm and he has one and half years under his rather large mink lined belt. He is looking good so far this year. Our running game should be lights out. We have the #1 rated RB to come out of the draft in his year and Bush probaly would have been in the top two or three if he had not been injured. have been
We have a bunch of help at WR. One or two of those guys are going to be superstars. We need help on the lines but things are looking miles ahead of last year when we didnt have a single WR for #1 to lock onto to.
I am looking for great strides this year.
Best year in 6 years!!!
September 1st, 2009 at 3:53 pm
Not sure I should even dignify the remark my addressing it but, her goes:
Norco Bob:
“hey has Russell been cut yet?…by the way 21 shouldnt play san diego game, that games already over, let him heal another weak.”
You have to only half-joking right?
I can see why you think we’re going to get manhandled, but for our best player not to play in the Season Opener?
Why do you think Aso was so adament about playing the damn game? We need him in there.
Everyone but you, apparently, knows this.
I’m not prepared to write off this seasonm our QB, or that game. That’s a big game for us, and Nnamdi may very well be the difference between winning and losing it.
Come on, now. Don’t get so bitter you start writing games off.
September 1st, 2009 at 3:55 pm
LA,..sit russell and 21,..russell would be ruined for life after he gets whacked by merriman all night,..put poor ol jeff out there as the sacrficial lamb…season begins in kc.
September 1st, 2009 at 3:55 pm
KoolKell – You and I both know that McFadden and Bush need to get ALOT of carries. Lets hope Al Davis knows this to be true.
September 1st, 2009 at 3:56 pm
sd wins opener even if they sit rivers and LT.
September 1st, 2009 at 3:57 pm
Lefty
20 friggin years of slop, can you read & count?
http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/rai/lineups.htm
September 1st, 2009 at 3:57 pm
Only chance for any good future is for jon gruden to return,…without him returning, theres no hope,…average 3 wins a year til regime change.
September 1st, 2009 at 3:58 pm
Kell why must you always post links to lame boring sites and articles?….cant you post thoughts of your own without having someone else make your point?
September 1st, 2009 at 3:59 pm
Well, time to go home…but I’ll be back tomorrow to biotch, whine and moan about Cable and the defense…cuz we ain’t winning with those clowns.
September 1st, 2009 at 4:00 pm
San Diego was 25th in Defense last year.
31st Against the Pass.
11th Against the Run.
The Raiders will need to stay balanced unlike last year when they decided to pass,pass,pass against the Chargers because they weren’t good and when we went to an unbalanced attack, the Chargers tore us apart. I think we’ll be smarter this time around. We need to make sure we test their run defense and put our strength vs. theres. With or without getting a running game going, we should be able to pass as long as we keep trying the run in order to take advantage of their weakness.
September 1st, 2009 at 4:00 pm
Oh wow,..yankee bozox game they had to rechedule time due to yom kippor,…are jews really that important?
September 1st, 2009 at 4:01 pm
Strange thing is…we’re completely opposite of the Chargers.
27 Total Defense
10th Against the Pass.
31st Against the Run.
September 1st, 2009 at 4:01 pm
Nice sd stats 24,..but sd still wins by at least 4 touchdowns.
September 1st, 2009 at 4:01 pm
Thanks for the lame link, Krappy – perfect timing!
I was just filing in some of the newer bloggers about some of your more interesting / totally retarded traits but didn’t have an example ready to go. Thanks for taking care of that.
If you can newt furnish us with a link to a picture of you jamming your head into your microwave, it would be much appreciated.
September 1st, 2009 at 4:03 pm
Just let jamarcus stand on sidelines for opener, in his mink,..he has no biz on field with merriman out there,..russell wont recover all year, or possibly ever…merriman gets maybe 8 sacks, hard ones.
September 1st, 2009 at 4:04 pm
Raiders Total Offense: 29th
Passing: 32nd
Rushing: 10th
Chargers Total Offense: 11th
Passing: 7th
Rushing: 20th
September 1st, 2009 at 4:04 pm
I am hoping that Coach Cowher is the next coach of the Raiders.
Cowher, Tuna and Coughlin are three coaches that would be on the sure fire thing list.
If we got any of those three I would say success is a for sure thing.
Can you name any other coaches that would be a lock?
Maybe Tomlin. He seems to have the it factor.
September 1st, 2009 at 4:04 pm
Gruden is the only choice, and bring back Bruce Allen too, clean house in front office, and ENTIRE coaching staff….and most players. keep maybe 3.
September 1st, 2009 at 4:05 pm
So, no more destructive critizisms. Here we go…Dear Al, please bring back Ron Wolf to run the team.
September 1st, 2009 at 4:06 pm
KK-the 14 years before the last 6=123-101.not great,but not as horrible as you make it out.we had 11 years of .500 or better and 7 of those were 9-6 or better.i admit the last 6 were beyond horrible,but the previous 14 weren’t as bad as you make them out to be.
September 1st, 2009 at 4:06 pm
also during those 14 years we were 6-6 in play off games.
September 1st, 2009 at 4:06 pm
Merriman – (minus) Steroids + Shredded Knee = Useless
I don’t think hes going to be the same player he used to be unless he got himself on the juice with a secret agent.
September 1st, 2009 at 4:06 pm
Plunkethead
Good point, anything under 8 wins, and we start over AGAIN with a new Coach, who couldn’t get a job anywhere else.
and I’ll be here bitchn & moaning, maybe. At some point, I’ll have to let them go. Until Davis is gone.
September 1st, 2009 at 4:07 pm
Lefty dont bother Kell right now, hes trying to find a cool article to post a link to with his next post.
September 1st, 2009 at 4:07 pm
Ice Cube is going to buy a part of the team reported on high times web site.
September 1st, 2009 at 4:08 pm
Kell, youre in Alameda, be a hero, walk in the building and make it happen, take one for the team,…you want him out, go get it done bud.
September 1st, 2009 at 4:08 pm
Amani Toomer was released by the Chiefs. Now’s the time to bring him in if we really need some help at the WR position.
I can’t believe that Andre Smith has a fractured foot right after signing his million dollar deal. Amazing!
September 1st, 2009 at 4:11 pm
If the last 6 have been horrible, and the 10 years prior to that were OK, and the 20 prior to those 10 were great, then we have a trend.
September 1st, 2009 at 4:12 pm
Lefty
Last 20 years sub-500, no?
Take out the Gruden/Gannon years, AND the Last 6, and you’ve got a 7-9 team, no?
Now you may not think 7-9 is that bad. But I grew up with higher standards.
September 1st, 2009 at 4:12 pm
Amani (its not a) Toomer ? Can he play defensive line?
September 1st, 2009 at 4:15 pm
# Plunketthead = andrews mom Says:
September 1st, 2009 at 4:04 pm
I am hoping that Coach Cowher is the next coach of the Raiders.
Cowher, Tuna and Coughlin are three coaches that would be on the sure fire thing list.
If we got any of those three I would say success is a for sure thing.
Can you name any other coaches that would be a lock?
Maybe Tomlin. He seems to have the it factor.
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Aside from the fact that a couple of those guys are under contract and are highly unlikely to get fired:
– Tomlin seems like a cocky little tool. Everybody loves him but he took over a team one year removed from winning the Super Bowl. Inherited one of the best d-coordinators in the history of the game. Inherited a franchise QB and virtually every other key piece of that team. And the guy walks around in his stupid shades like he’s the greatest coach of all time.
– I’ve always been a Cowher fan but if the media is right, there’s a .00001% chance he would take the Oakland job.
– Coughlin’s head would explode after spending 5 minutes in Oakland. Oil and water. It would be the equivalent of Richard Nixon running the Merry Pranksters.
– I honestly believe Parcells is done.
Gruden is the one big-name coach I wouldn’t write off if things crumble for Cable this season. He knows Al and Oakland. He’s had success there. He’d return a hero. He’s had nothing but nice things to say about the Raiders since becoming a TV guy. Yeah, I could definitely see it.
September 1st, 2009 at 4:18 pm
KK-yes the last 20 we were below .500.subtract the last 6 and we were over .500.imo,the last 6 happened because of the chuckie/allen years.just as the Washington Redskins fell into chaos after George Allen left due to the fact you can only reload with aging vets for so long before you have to rebuild with some younger talent.just like TB has to rebuild now that chuckie/allen have left.
September 1st, 2009 at 4:21 pm
Lefty12 Says:
September 1st, 2009 at 4:18 pm
KK-yes the last 20 we were below .500.subtract the last 6 and we were over .500.imo,the last 6 happened because of the chuckie…
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I don’t know if you actually did the counting, but, we were a 500 team AT BEST.
Now go back to that page again and look at the trend since 1984.
September 1st, 2009 at 4:22 pm
Kell, post a link for lefty, thats the best way,..right?
September 1st, 2009 at 4:27 pm
I know the coaching over the last 20 years has played a part in the record, but QB play has been huge.
Gruden had success in Oakland because of Gannon. He went through 100 QBs in Tampa and was unable to duplicate it.
The Raiders have been everything from inconsistent to down-right awful at QB play over the last 25 years.
September 1st, 2009 at 4:27 pm
one of the problems i have is the anti-Davis crowd always say he controls everything-roster,draft picks,game plans,etc.,yet want to eliminate the chuckie/allen years when it has always been reported that allens job was more as a buffer than as a personnel guy.
September 1st, 2009 at 4:27 pm
So what if Russell gets whacked all night? QBs need to learn to stay in the pocket and deliver the ball, especially when facing the oncoming hammer.
Being that hes not particularly mobile, step up in there.
September 1st, 2009 at 4:29 pm
1st post in 09 so here goes:
Record: 8-8
Offense: c+
run: B+
Pass: c
Defense: B-
Run: D
Pass: B+
Russell: QB rating 83% Will show improvement, will get hurt, Garcia will come in and do no better to silence critics. Next year team and QB will be on playoff dorrstep.
DHB: Will have a disapointing year, albeit with a few terrific highlight reals. Needs to improve hands and get comfortable enough to run full speed out there.
Shill: Will become the posession receiver we had in Curry during his productive years
Needs:
More discipline, penalties!!
D and O need to be more careful on holding, refs have already said they are gonna be more stringent! Anyone offsides should be horsewipped!
Need better play out of DT’s. (duh) should be a high priority in next yrs draft. Kelly is an underachiever despite constant double teams and warren is a backup at best. We also have cast offs fore depth. Bryant is too light but looks good so far.
Safeties. Huff is maddening with his girly tackles and always one step behind. Eugene is a liability against pass. Branch and mitch are rooks prone to give up big plays just when it counts. They need some time.
Mcfad and bush will be solid. Fargas trade bait? Have room with rankin.
We have serious depth issues after aso, johnson and routt. Dont understand why we got rid of washington.
Miller will get cut and put on practice squad to be forgotten about next year unless he has a terrific game thu in which case it will be holland.
Thoughts??
September 1st, 2009 at 4:29 pm
the 10 years before we hired chuckie we were 82-78.1 of those years we were 12-4.another we were 4-12.all the rest we were 7-9 or better.
September 1st, 2009 at 4:30 pm
Lets see if we can figure this trend thing out… The franchise with the highest winning percentage in NFL history is the Miami Dolphins…They owe that great honor to a man named Shula. Shula’s last years were painful to watch, the game had passed him by, and he was let go…Even though the 20 years prior to those 5 years he sucked were awesome (throw a perfect season in there), the game had passed him by. Now, could we use this example on Al Davis?
September 1st, 2009 at 4:30 pm
Dang,..Grant Napear just said on his show Oakland can possibly go 0-16,…I dont think its that bad,…I think like 3-13,..but if it would take a winless year to get Gruden back I have no prob with going winless.
September 1st, 2009 at 4:30 pm
Perhaps you are right on Tomlin. I was pointing out that most all coaches are hit and miss. Look what Snyder went through trying to find a coach for the Skins and he has wound up with Jim Zorn.
Theres no doubt that Tuna, Cowher and Coughlin can do it but I doubt if anyone else, including Chuckie would be a saviour at HC.
September 1st, 2009 at 4:30 pm
Afternoon Nation.
Allen had zero say in personell. He was a buffer and the glue. His expertise is in contracts. He is a good front office manager with a football background.
September 1st, 2009 at 4:31 pm
What makes you think Gruden wants to come back?
September 1st, 2009 at 4:33 pm
LA,..russell is barely there emotionally,..a terrible night on MNF he wont recover from,..just sit him and let poor ol jeff take it,…nnambdi also,..let season begin in week 2,..sd game isnt winnable.
September 1st, 2009 at 4:34 pm
Dang, i posted after kells was posted, put it over his,..dang.
September 1st, 2009 at 4:34 pm
Good to know that they have seen enough of Scott at LDE. Your turn Shaugnessy, let’s see what you got.
Same with Satele at C. Looks like Morris will be the opening day starter since Wade can’t get healthy.
Branch has not been impressive at SS, especially in coverage. Let’s go Mitchell! Get that leg healthy!
RT will be a weakness until Barnes gets back.
Maybe Satele moves to G for Carlisle?
September 1st, 2009 at 4:34 pm
The value of the Raiders is what $750M +or-. Let’s all chip in and raise, say $2.5B or so and buy the team from the crazy ‘ol fart. EVERYONE has a price, even Al.
I’ll chip in twenty bucks….lol
September 1st, 2009 at 4:36 pm
wooops. messed up on the shula analogy. he never sucked, last 5 years were awesome too… but you get the point.
September 1st, 2009 at 4:36 pm
If Garcia gets in against the Dolts we wouldn’t have a shot of winning for sure…stop Russell hating
September 1st, 2009 at 4:40 pm
Lefty12 Says:
September 1st, 2009 at 4:27 pm
one of the problems i have is the anti-Davis crowd
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Lefty
I don’t know where you’re from or where you reside. But I’m a local guy. And from my local conversations, I’m quite sure the “anti-Davis crowd” is the majority of Raider Fans.
September 1st, 2009 at 4:42 pm
Norco,
Why is an 8-8 team so intimidating?
They had the 25th-ranked defense in 2008.
Despite all the hype, Merriman is coming off a shredded knee and he’s (probably) not on the juice anymore.
What teams will JaMarcus be allowed to face? Don’t tell me you think we should turn the reins over to a 40-year old QB under a one-year deal and a .500 career record?
September 1st, 2009 at 4:42 pm
KoolKell Says:
September 1st, 2009 at 4:40 pm
Lefty12 Says:
September 1st, 2009 at 4:27 pm
one of the problems i have is the anti-Davis crowd
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Lefty
I don’t know where you’re from or where you reside. But I’m a local guy. And from my local conversations, I’m quite sure the “anti-Davis crowd” is the majority of Raider Fans.
*****
LOL!
September 1st, 2009 at 4:45 pm
Is this team worse than last year? Is the division any better than last year? There , something positive to dwell on you naysayers.
September 1st, 2009 at 4:47 pm
All I want to know is why is the team meeting with stars like Ice Cube and their record is garbage!!! Lets win some games before we start planning parties with Ice Cube Russel. “Today was not a good day!”
September 1st, 2009 at 4:48 pm
Lynn from Snot Says:
September 1st, 2009 at 4:45 pm
Is this team worse than last year? Is the division any better than last year? There , something positive to dwell on you naysayers
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I for one think the division is up for grabs this year
September 1st, 2009 at 4:50 pm
JHill – Where did you see that? That they have seen enough of TScott at DE?
September 1st, 2009 at 4:54 pm
Chris, when san diego comes to oakland these days, the raiders mess their pants,…and will again in 2 weeks.
September 1st, 2009 at 4:55 pm
Gannon on 114o right now,..wow,..he feels sorry for us.
September 1st, 2009 at 4:55 pm
Expect Sandy Eggo to screen us to death. That and a lot of jump balls to receivers.
September 1st, 2009 at 4:56 pm
KK-born in Oakland,raised in the bay,moved north years ago,n.cal.i have many problems with the old guy myself,but i realize we are stuck with him and there isn’t anything we can do about him.when i speak of the anti-davis crowd,i’m talking about the one who constantly harp about him,those who keep repeating he should retire or those that say they wish he’d pass away.i do give him credit for what i see as an influx of new,young talent.this time of year,i give him the benefit of the doubt.i’m sure if the season goes as all the doom and gloom crowd predicts,i’ll hate him by the end of the year,just like i have the last 6 years.
September 1st, 2009 at 4:56 pm
I want gruden as hc,..gannon on his staff,..bruce allen as gm,..get rid of that snake trask and that mouthpiece and mike taylor,..all tryin hard to get team back to L.A.
September 1st, 2009 at 4:56 pm
Lynn
Speaking for myself, my best hope is that the Raiders can somehow, someway, pray jesus, get off to a good start, get some momentum, win some games, 500 ball season.
But if there’s any drama, legal depositions, Vendetta, Ego, or other Raider Bullshyt, their burden will be greatly increased. Then we’ll get a new coach next year. And it won’t be Cowher, believe that.
September 1st, 2009 at 4:57 pm
and of course ice cube in town tellin em how great L.A. is….if that happens Im goin to be a niner fan because they are moving to my home town of santa clara,..but only if they call them the santa clara niners.
September 1st, 2009 at 4:58 pm
Jason Watkins waived by Texans
Watkins helped the Gators win 2 National Championships (2006 and 2008) as member of the offensive line and also helped quarterback Tim Tebow break multiple passing and rushing records.
In his senior season, Watkins was named honorable mention All-Southeastern Conference by the Associated Press, as he produced 78 knockdowns to go with 12 touchdown-resulting blocks. He graded 81.71% and was part of a front wall that gave up just 16 sacks. The Gators went on to capture the national title behind an offense that averaged 445.07 yards and 43.64 points per game[2]
September 1st, 2009 at 4:58 pm
Rich gannon just said on the radio that selling gruden in the middle of the night was worst day ever in Raider history.
September 1st, 2009 at 4:59 pm
Denny Green , Jim Fassel, Lofton the usual suspects
September 1st, 2009 at 5:00 pm
# Norco Bob Says:
September 1st, 2009 at 4:57 pm
and of course ice cube in town tellin em how great L.A. is….if that happens Im goin to be a niner fan because they are moving to my home town of santa clara,..but only if they call them the santa clara niners.
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You truly are a die hard and we need more fans like you.
September 1st, 2009 at 5:02 pm
gotta second the gruden & gannon idea. with good ol willie shaw as DC
September 1st, 2009 at 5:02 pm
bob,grants mad because yesterday he said AD has lost it and hasn’t made ANY good decisions the last 6 years.i emailed him and told him i disagreed-he didn’t rehire him(grant) to do the play by play on our practice games.
September 1st, 2009 at 5:06 pm
I heard grant blow up yesterday in his monologue too,..he was right on the money,…had nothing to do with him not in preseason booth dude.
September 1st, 2009 at 5:07 pm
Lynn Im at every game, are you?
September 1st, 2009 at 5:14 pm
It’s a cruel business, but Packers linebacker A.J. Hawk is starting to fall short of expectations.
As Green Bay transitions to a 3-4 defense, the Green Bay Press-Gazette writes that Hawk is looking likely to lose most of his snaps on passing downs. That would cut the 2006 number five pick’s snaps in half if it happened.
The Packers beat writers have been hinting at this story for weeks, noticing that Hawk often played with the second-team nickel defense. His snaps with the first team were reduced to nothing by Monday. The return of starter Nick Barnett to practice has likely expedited the process.
September 1st, 2009 at 5:16 pm
Problem here is the punks that try to dominate this site with bulling and demeanor, do not remember when the Raiders had a well earned Swagger. They put it on the field, not in a hip hop club. These punks just don’t get it. Kell remembers, people that rank on him are just punks, period!
September 1st, 2009 at 5:20 pm
I dont bag on Kell,..I suggest he and I have a few beers and get high someday,…whats wrong with that?
September 1st, 2009 at 5:22 pm
Norco Bob Says:
September 1st, 2009 at 4:58 pm
Rich gannon just said on the radio that selling gruden in the middle of the night was worst day ever in Raider history.
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throwing five interceptions in a Super Bowl (IMHO) would be the worst day in raider history…
now who would that be???
September 1st, 2009 at 5:24 pm
nice one Pete.
September 1st, 2009 at 5:25 pm
Worst day in gannons maybe,..gruden should have been our coach for at least ten years….without that madman in his face every day.
September 1st, 2009 at 5:27 pm
Gannon had a good Raider attitude, sorry he got too old. Miss him!
September 1st, 2009 at 5:31 pm
jesus… norc…
why would anyone mention AJ Hawk and his issues with the Packers…
okay… no subtlety… here we go…
Packers are transitioning to a 3-4… and it’s pushing Hawk into second team…
7/28/2006: Signed a six-year, $37.5 million contract. The deal contains $16 million guaranteed, including an $11.85 million option bonus in the second year. 2009: $3.025 million, 2010: $4,123,750, 2011: $10 million, 2012: Free Agent
so he would cost us 3 mill…
we would have to trade for him…
but we shouldn’t have to trade much… the packers probably want to dump his salary…
September 1st, 2009 at 5:37 pm
F-Pete, the Giants are going to deplete a whole lot of line players, so are other teams, but the Giants are salaryied capped.
September 1st, 2009 at 5:39 pm
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/football/nfl/09/01/asomugha.raiders.ap/index.html
September 1st, 2009 at 5:54 pm
Wonder if the Packers would take a 3rd or 4th rounder for Hawk. I’d do that deal in a second.
September 1st, 2009 at 5:58 pm
i would offer a fifth or a sixth…
reason being that they don’t need him…
and they really don’t need his salary…
in other words, getting anything at all is a plus for the Pack…
September 1st, 2009 at 5:58 pm
we can clear space by dumping the Turd…
September 1st, 2009 at 6:05 pm
back later…
September 1st, 2009 at 6:10 pm
Well, we just picked up a 3rd and 5th from the Pats for Burgess. So we have a couple of extra picks to play with. I like Hawk (loved him in his college days, haven’t seen a ton from him in Green Bay though). I think he’s worth it. LB is definitely a serious, serious need right now.
September 1st, 2009 at 6:12 pm
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/stats?playerId=9591
A.J. Hawk
2009 Scouting Report – Scouts Inc.
Grade: 77 | Key
Comment: Hawk is a big, strong and athletic linebacker who plays with great intensity and instincts. He shouldn’t have a problem fitting into the inside linebacker position in the Packers’ new 3-4 scheme. Hawk is a quick reactor, which enables him to beat blockers to the point of attack as well as jump receivers while in coverage. He understands leverage and angles as a run defender. Hawk has good power as a tackler but isn’t always physical to separate form blockers when defending the inside running game.
He shows enough quickness and speed to be effective in zone and combination man coverage schemes. Hawk is a decent blitzer but is more productive in coverage. Hawk has shown great durability and should continue to be a productive player for the Packers in the coming years.
September 1st, 2009 at 6:15 pm
I’d take Hawk but the Packers aren’t giving him up for pennies. They have a ton of cap room and even if they could save more money, they’re not just going to give away a 1st round pick with all his talent. Hes one injury away from starting and theres no guarantee that Barnett stays healthy. I’m sure hes not going to be available. The Packers will need alot of depth in the 3-4 Defense so don’t get your hopes up.
September 1st, 2009 at 6:28 pm
Has anyone been watching Stanford Routt? The man is getting “eaten up” at his position.He plays like he’s been training with Stu Schwagart or Anthony Dorset!He’s been getting TORCHED! just like the other two clowns used to.WTF? get someone out there with a little heart.I do like Ricky Brown’s agressiveness. I hope he makes the cut.Raider Nation baby!
September 1st, 2009 at 6:34 pm
For those of you who thought we should’ve taken Andre Smith…
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_ylt=Ahylo1liWSf0LGdIyi0nDslDubYF?slug=ap-bengals-asmithhurt&prov=ap&type=lgns
Not only was a hold out, the fat boy busted his GD foot!
September 1st, 2009 at 6:37 pm
I feel the same about Routt. I’ve never seen him play consistently. He can’t shut anybody out. In all, we really should have a better nickelback. I’d love to have Tory James back.
September 1st, 2009 at 6:40 pm
Anybody know of any descent DTs or DEs that may get cut by a team to get to a 53 man roster????
September 1st, 2009 at 6:42 pm
Asomugha is expected to wear the cast for six weeks, longer than normal for a chip fracture but necessary because of the cartilage damage. – SI
Read more: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/football/nfl/09/01/asomugha.raiders.ap/index.html#ixzz0PuQ36kRw
September 1st, 2009 at 6:43 pm
Haven’t had the time to catch up on all the posts and such…but it bothers me that:
None of these “players” seem to be embarrased about the “@ss kickin” they took and nobody seems to think that they need to man-up and do something about it.
They still get paid whether they lose 45-7 or win 45-7.
Notice how I said “whether” “rather” then “rather” MR you illiterate loser.
Secondly, It’s not “gap”…It’s not “pad-level”…it’s friggin talent and guts, and if you are short on one of those….you better have lots of the other.
I want to see one of those from our guys…If they want to be “RAIDERS”…and want me to be a fan.
P.S. I read a lot about our “dominant run game” that I have yet to see any evidence of yet. Zone blocking means trickery and angles and that means “0″ yards on the goal-line and “0″ yards on 3rd or 4th and 1 when “meat meets meat”.
September 1st, 2009 at 6:43 pm
yo Huff!!!
Prepare to be dominated!!! I hope you dont mind me giving ur email address 2 Dirty!!!
September 1st, 2009 at 6:44 pm
At least Tory could stay with his man, damn! Routt plays like a scared kid out there!Where is the HEART! This is the NFL dammit! come on Raiders, play with some damn emotion. HIT SOMEBODY!
September 1st, 2009 at 6:46 pm
ZBS = 1,000 yd rusher with 1 TD.
Makes Fargas look good…and gets McFadden injured.
September 1st, 2009 at 6:49 pm
JerrymcdIce Cube is in the house, but Nnamdi is not. At least he’s not on the field
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er Jerry the 80’s called they want their saying back.. We no longer say in the house.. Its been In the building since the late 90’s.. Im just sayin….
September 1st, 2009 at 6:50 pm
# jhill Says:
September 1st, 2009 at 4:34 pm
Good to know that they have seen enough of Scott at LDE. Your turn Shaugnessy, let’s see what you got.
Same with Satele at C. Looks like Morris will be the opening day starter since Wade can’t get healthy.
Branch has not been impressive at SS, especially in coverage. Let’s go Mitchell! Get that leg healthy!
RT will be a weakness until Barnes gets back.
Maybe Satele moves to G for Carlisle?
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Scott plays the RDE. Shaughnessy is just as weak as Scott is verse the run. The problem is the scheme guys. Haven’t we already seen good run stuffers play the RDE in Oakland and the run defense still suffers?
Ok Morris will be the opening night starter? Based on what? Morris is another fringe player. Satele has disappointed but Morris wont start over him and it would be nice if Wade was healthy. He should have started last season.
Branch has no business at the SS. He is a FS and it shows how dumb Marshall really is. Yeah I would like to see what Mitchell can do but hell I havent yet! That is a damn problem.
Raiders have the worst pass blocking RT in the league. Watch Cable stil start him when Barnes is healthy
September 1st, 2009 at 6:52 pm
Random Bite Me, I’ve got more blood than you have to lose, punk!
September 1st, 2009 at 6:52 pm
hey 860 how it going bro??
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Brien we’re in for a long year brethren!!!
September 1st, 2009 at 6:53 pm
860Todd Christensen Says:
September 1st, 2009 at 6:50 pm
Random AZZHole, take a hike, Loser!
Ever play a game 860Todd Christensen? doubt if very much.
September 1st, 2009 at 6:56 pm
Good, 408, Hows the princess? Hope all is good for you and her!!! Seen Dirty is back, all is good, except for idiots, but that ok, one smack, every thing is good!
September 1st, 2009 at 6:57 pm
Ooooo…where can I hide? The scary guy 860Todd Christensen is going to hurt me! What should I do? I’m scared…help me!
September 1st, 2009 at 6:57 pm
RaiderMight is the bomb.. from his twitter page….
@Jerrymcd I’m a web developer with PHP, MySQL and Wordpress experience. Im offering to help fix the blog at no charge. These issues r common
September 1st, 2009 at 7:00 pm
Five wins if JMR completes less than 60% of passes with rating 70-ish. Six or seven wins if he exceeds 85 passer rating. Defense sucks so no playoffs this year.
September 1st, 2009 at 7:00 pm
You want to know what I’m gonna do?
I’m gonna step up into the pocket and fire a strike to any receiver (or back) who has an inch of separation from his guy and if he doesn’t catch it…I’m gonna grab him by the face-mask and tell him that was the only mistake he gets to make this season if he ever wants to see the ball again.
September 1st, 2009 at 7:00 pm
RaiderMight! RaiderMight ! RaiderMight ! RaiderMight !
September 1st, 2009 at 7:02 pm
RDT, you are a 12 yo loser, you are here by ignored from this site, forever, go back to the whiners, and pray!
September 1st, 2009 at 7:02 pm
Later Nation.. BBL
September 1st, 2009 at 7:02 pm
Nite 408!
September 1st, 2009 at 7:04 pm
The trouble with our Raiders now is that they are not really RAIDERS….we need a team of guys who want to be RAIDERS….nobody we have now is man enough, except Ellis and Cable, and that’s because they are new. Hopefully what they have is contagious.
September 1st, 2009 at 7:09 pm
Even Nnamdi is not above my rage…if you’re not part of the solution you are part of the problem. You can’t sit there and take the money and say “I’m doing MY job” It’s his responsibility get into any guys grill and tell him to step up to the same level. Anything else is self-serving and selfish…not team-like.
September 1st, 2009 at 7:12 pm
860Todd Christensen Says:
September 1st, 2009 at 7:02 pm
RDT, you are a 12 yo loser, you are here by ignored from this site, forever, go back to the whiners, and pray!
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Wow! and we get this input for free! Give me some more of that insight, can’t get enough of that
Quit diluting the IQ of Raider fans please.
September 1st, 2009 at 7:14 pm
Thinking about firing hard on the over on the Monday night game. The Chargers might score close to the 44 themselves, and they don’t have a great pass D either. We should score close to 20 points, hopefully more.
I’m kind of glad I am going to be out of town for the opener. Last year was a harsh buzz-kill.
September 1st, 2009 at 7:14 pm
Pete,
I like your new idea to trade for AJ. I like it a lot, but I don’t think they will trade him for anything less than a 2nd or 3rd.
No way Dude.
September 1st, 2009 at 7:15 pm
Sure be nice to have A.J. Hawk, Grady Jackson, and the luxury of having Charles Woodson around to transition into the FS position.
Imagine:
LDE Shaughnessy
LDT Kelly
RDT Jackson
RDE Ellis
WLB Howard
MLB Hawk
SLB Morrison
CB Nnamdi
SS Branch
FS Woodson
CB Johnson
Like the dirty old man on family guy would say….”EMMMMMMM!”
September 1st, 2009 at 7:15 pm
#187
NoMoreFargas
Which part of that was what YOU said?
By the way…I agree with your name.
September 1st, 2009 at 7:17 pm
ANYON HEAR /READ ABOUT THE RAIDER’S WEARING WHITE JERSEY’S IN HOME OPENER.PART OF AFL 50TH ANEV. THING ?
September 1st, 2009 at 7:17 pm
Hording picks is overrated!
September 1st, 2009 at 7:19 pm
Fargas and a third in 2011, 5th in 2010 for AJ. That would get it done probably.
He’d be the toughest SOB on our D. Not great but solid, we could use just exactly that.
September 1st, 2009 at 7:20 pm
Any real Raider fans here?
September 1st, 2009 at 7:20 pm
no way do i give up a second for him…
hey… i got an idea…
conditional trade…
they get the higher third that we have…
and…
if we finish in the bottom ten of the league… we trade first round picks…
i really don’t want any more top ten guys and their ridiculous contracts…
yeah… i like it !!!
September 1st, 2009 at 7:21 pm
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September 1st, 2009 at 7:21 pm
RaiderRobG Says:
September 1st, 2009 at 7:17 pm
Hording picks is overrated!
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Hording poor playing UFA’s is way over-rated….what’s your point?
September 1st, 2009 at 7:22 pm
<troubled Raider fan here
September 1st, 2009 at 7:27 pm
The very last part . Im very lazy
September 1st, 2009 at 7:28 pm
People like to compare fargas to rocky or rudy screw both of those guys I rather have Ali and Tebow this is the NFL not some church rec league.
September 1st, 2009 at 7:29 pm
NMF…Brien is hardcore…if you are hardcore, you are very angry right now.
September 1st, 2009 at 7:30 pm
What up Nation?
Benn checking the dumpsters down here by Saints Camp and DT Rod Coleman got cut and 2nd year guy DT D. Pressley is on the bubble. If not mistaken, Pressley was the DT on the same college team that Mario Williams played on. He was having a good camp last year and was put on IR during training camp because they were stocked at DT last year. They kinda stocked again but Pressley might get the ax.
September 1st, 2009 at 7:31 pm
Fargas looks admirable right now because he is the (only?) guy with heart…not much talent, but heart.
He looks good and all that on a team of losers…but we need to think like winners and not let that be the measurement of who plays and who doesn’t. Fargas comes in as a 3rd option or when the team is off and an injection of spirit is needed….not a starter.
September 1st, 2009 at 7:32 pm
What are we going to do with the D-line folks? We simply can’t leave it as-is going into the opener, they have to shake things up a little. They have been truly awful, maybe start Bryant or J-Rich, hell I would be open to Joseph starting. Warren would still getting plenty of PT, but maybe being demoted will fire him up a little.
September 1st, 2009 at 7:34 pm
Not so sure about the AJ Hawk dude. There hasn’t been a really good defensive player from Ohio State in recent memory. Antoine Winfield maybe but thats it. Those dudes are way overrated.
September 1st, 2009 at 7:35 pm
Silver-n-Smac Says:
September 1st, 2009 at 3:00 pm
# Dakota Says:
September 1st, 2009 at 2:53 pm
Silver-n-smac,
So you don’t believe that our D’s performance in SF against the run and against N.O. is relevant because it occurred in the preseason? You don’t think it is an indication of things to come, especially when we had one of the worst defenses against the run in the NFL that past few seasons? You can’t be that naive can you?
Do you really believe that the Raiders D will just turn it on come week 1?
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Dakota:
I’ve watched football for 30 years and have seen some absolutely horrible football played in the pre-season, and guess what? It means nothing.
There is no accurate way to guage what goes on in a pre-season game. Only the coaches know what they’re trying to accomplish on any given play. The preseason is the time to try out all kinds of matchups and plays, and in crazy combinations that you would never see in the regular season.
Do you really see the Raider giving up back-to-back +250 yard games to opposing runners? Give me a freakin’ break man. Nobody is saying this defense is top-10.
We don’t even need a top-20 defense to go 7-9. This team is a work in progress and they have enough talent to be in the 7-9 and 9-7 range. There is no reason they can’t do that. You act like we need a stellar front 7 on defense to win.
I simply cannot believe the weight some of you guys put on these stupid games in August.
Amazing.
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What’s interesting is the coaches put a hell of a lot of weight into what just happened the last two games.
What’s of equal interest is the fact the PLAYERS also put a HELL OF A LOT of weight into what happened, and their concern, and desire to correct it.
Oddly, reporters seem to look at the trend as a worrisome trend..
And what the hell..seems fans that have seen this M.O. in the last few years aren’t acting as if it’s an anomaly that has showed up, and is just a fluke..
Now, either all of the above are correct, or you are.
Maybe you should call up Cable, and the players, and put their fears at rest?
September 1st, 2009 at 7:38 pm
I am an Al Davis supporter/fan/loyalist….BUT, I am putting him on notice!
If he dicks around or tampers with our developing talent this year, and/or doesn’t draft O-line and D-line in next year’s draft…I will be right beside MR and his crew in demanding that he step aside and put proper football operational management in place.
There…I said it!
September 1st, 2009 at 7:40 pm
Random Drug Tester Says:
September 1st, 2009 at 7:38 pm
I am an Al Davis supporter/fan/loyalist….BUT, I am putting him on notice!
If he dicks around or tampers with our developing talent this year, and/or doesn’t draft O-line and D-line in next year’s draft…I will be right beside MR and his crew in demanding that he step aside and put proper football operational management in place.
There…I said it!
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at a minimum… you should send a certified letter…
no… wait…
a person to person call…
no…
a person to person collect call (that’ll get his attention) to Al Davis to let him know … in no uncertain terms… just how you feel…
September 1st, 2009 at 7:41 pm
Pete,
I don’t think that’s how a conditional pick works. It’s has more to do with the player’s performance.
For example:
We will trade one of our 3rds, and another pick based on his performace and how it helps the D.
September 1st, 2009 at 7:41 pm
you talkin’ to me Pete?
September 1st, 2009 at 7:44 pm
got it…I was posting to fast…scheit server
September 1st, 2009 at 7:45 pm
Raider O Says:
September 1st, 2009 at 7:41 pm
Pete,
I don’t think that’s how a conditional pick works. It’s has more to do with the player’s performance.
For example:
We will trade one of our 3rds, and another pick based on his performace and how it helps the D.
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i was being facetious… although, i don’t know that 1st rounders can’t be traded for schits and giggles…
honestly…
September 1st, 2009 at 7:45 pm
Tebow!!! Really?!
September 1st, 2009 at 7:46 pm
I don’t expect to influence Al or the managerial decisions of the Raiders….I was just referring to Al vs His haters or supporters in this blog which seems to dominate and obscure the real talk and evaluation of our team and it’s direction and prospects
September 1st, 2009 at 7:50 pm
please… no tebow…
please… no more QBs as a top ten pick…
please… no more top ten picks…
please… win just… i don’t know… don’t lose more than 2 games in a row!!!!
that would be a good start…
baby steps… stepping up to the big ones…
September 1st, 2009 at 7:53 pm
What Pete said…and then draft O-line and D-line
September 1st, 2009 at 7:53 pm
The Raiders will draft Tebow and he will start at WR.
September 1st, 2009 at 7:56 pm
Imagine this!
Lane Kiffin was sane…
DeAngelo Hall, Gibril Wilson, Javon Walker were good FA signings…
September 1st, 2009 at 7:56 pm
And a true MLB!
September 1st, 2009 at 7:57 pm
Burgesss, O’neal, Drew Carter didn’t get injured.
September 1st, 2009 at 7:57 pm
Arman Shields played a game
September 1st, 2009 at 7:58 pm
According to Chronicle Live, Ice Cube created a Raider Rap song. It will be played during the 1st Game of the season in full. The part that I heard sounds pretty good. Ice Cube is pretty good so I don’t mind at all.
September 1st, 2009 at 8:00 pm
I don’t understand this interest in Tebow! I thought it was a joke!
We don’t need Tebow, but we need:
DLine
MLB
OLine
September 1st, 2009 at 8:05 pm
it’s just puzzling to me that the Raiders can’t seem to figure out a good way to implenet crative games plans that call for the use of all three backs in the game.
I mean I think about the Chargers when they had, Marion Butts, Eric Bieniemy, Rod Bernstine and Ronnie Harmon. They rotated the heck out of those guys and won a lot of games in the process.
Now Bush has the potential to be a better version on Bernstine and Dmac has the same style as Harmon except only way more superstar potential and skill, which leaves Fargas, who’s no Marion Butts or Eric Bieniemy.
IMO the Raiders filling backup positions by rotating Rankin and Russell from time to time gives the option to trade Fargas once and for all.
September 1st, 2009 at 8:07 pm
I think we should Try D Bryant at Base End ( LE), and have T Scott in passing Downs. He has an advantage over a slow RT, but he doesnt do much against the faster LTs. Ellis should play RE the entire time, and have Matt play at both Ends.
September 1st, 2009 at 8:09 pm
If I had 23 million put in my bank account…would i give a crap about Raider fans and their legacy? let alone go on a diet!
Easy to say that you would care, even if you got 37 million more just for showing up to practise. But would you care enough to sacrifice?
That’s the difference between the achieving Raiders of old and the current crop we have now. Guys Al used to sign and give one last shot at self-redemption are guys that are signing and get one last shot at a contract. They have no honour…they don’t love the game…they are injured or stressed-out workers. The game or honour are not a factor.
September 1st, 2009 at 8:09 pm
No More Infield or Trolls Says:
September 1st, 2009 at 3:06 pm
We ended the season with some very solid games by the defense. We have upgraded at some positions and the younger players now have that experiance to draw upon.On paper we should be better. Games aren’t played on paper. I say thank god for these two lousy VANILLA D showings. Thats what preseason is for. Banking on the strong finish to last season soI think we are going to be ok.
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Told you..you’re an idiot.
You didn’t end the season with very solid games by the defense. Tampa Bay had 100 plus yards more than the Raiders did.
Was Houston and TB who’s D really sucked. Both of those teams D’s had sucked for the previous 3 games as it was.
And are you really this thick?
“TrollsScareMe”: We have upgraded at some positions and the younger players now have that experiance to draw upon.”
lol…really? The younger players now have that experience to draw upon? WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? Do you even know?
And the topper? The “DUH OF THE MONTH” award??
TrollsMakeMeSoilMyself: “On paper we should be better. Games aren’t played on paper.”
Dude, when I challenged you to try and talk football, I had no idea you were going to crap on your own shoe like that….
Way to go, Gomer.
September 1st, 2009 at 8:10 pm
which leaves Fargas, who’s no Marion Butts or Eric Bieniemy.
Bush should better than both of them
September 1st, 2009 at 8:13 pm
Matt at both ends as a backup, and move Brynat to DT on passing downs.
I think we should keep 4 RBs, and 1 FB:
RBs:
DMC
Bush
Rankin
Russell ( he can be a backup FB)
FB:
O’Neal
September 1st, 2009 at 8:14 pm
Just heard the Raider Nation song by Ice Cube. Awesome, will get you pumped. I hope this replaces Hells Bells for them coming onto the field.
September 1st, 2009 at 8:14 pm
Bush = Natrone Means
Dmac = Ronnie Harmon
Rankin = Rankin
Fargas = injury insurance/trade bait/locker room guy
September 1st, 2009 at 8:23 pm
Hell, I forgot Natrone???
Rankin=Rankin LOL
Keep Russell and get Hawk for Fargas and a second
September 1st, 2009 at 8:26 pm
I don’t care if Tupac comes back to life to make an entire album about the Raiders. lol
Fix the Run D.
Fix the Oline.
Play good Football!!
Win!!!!!
September 1st, 2009 at 8:31 pm
Random Drug Tester’s Top Ten upgrades:
Immediately
1) MLB – quit trying to make one!
2) RDE – quit trying to make one
3) RT – someone beat out Mop-Handle
4) DT – stop the run already (with help from 1 & 2)
5) SLB – groom one to replace our current (1 & 2)
6) RG – can’t do much worse than we are
for the future
7) LT – can’t have enough of these
DT – can’t have enough of these
9) LDE – Ellis is short term (or shorter)
10) DB – fast one, make Al think he is still in charge
September 1st, 2009 at 8:36 pm
I have the sinking feeling that Marshall is only going to prove that Rob Ryan didn’t suck as bad as our defense does.
September 1st, 2009 at 8:44 pm
RaiderO,
Have you watched ANY of the preseason games?
September 1st, 2009 at 9:09 pm
Florida Pete Says:
September 1st, 2009 at 5:22 pm
Norco Bob Says:
September 1st, 2009 at 4:58 pm
Rich gannon just said on the radio that selling gruden in the middle of the night was worst day ever in Raider history.
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throwing five interceptions in a Super Bowl (IMHO) would be the worst day in raider history…
now who would that be???
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“SLUGGO SEAM….SLUGGO SEAM”..oddly comes to mind, lol.
(kind of funny hearing Gannon AND John Lynch yelling it at the same time)
September 1st, 2009 at 9:12 pm
Whopdee Do
“Ice Cube has been working on a documentary on the Los Angeles Raiders for ESPN detailing their influence in hip hop culture.”
September 1st, 2009 at 9:13 pm
Random Drug Tester Says:
September 1st, 2009 at 7:20 pm
Any real Raider fans here?
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Oxy-morons are strongly frowned upon.
(in the background, you can hear Brien…”oxy? Oxy isn’t my first name.”
September 1st, 2009 at 9:18 pm
Random Drug Tester Says:
September 1st, 2009 at 7:38 pm
I am an Al Davis supporter/fan/loyalist….BUT, I am putting him on notice!
If he dicks around or tampers with our developing talent this year, and/or doesn’t draft O-line and D-line in next year’s draft…I will be right beside MR and his crew in demanding that he step aside and put proper football operational management in place.
There…I said it!
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Well, goody for you.
You’re “putting him on notice”???
Wow.
Awesome.
What a force to be reckoned with you guys are, lol.
Hey? I know..why don’t the handful of you sign it, then send it to Al.
that should do it
September 1st, 2009 at 9:32 pm
Yup, Shaugnessy at RDE. It’s really not about him, it’s about how bad Scott is. He simply can’t be on the field as a starter.
Morris by default. Can’t be any worse than Satele. Doesn’t know the offense? Oh, is that what he calls getting knocked on his arse?
Branch is a special teams player as far as I’m concerned. Get his arse back in the gunner role.
September 1st, 2009 at 9:39 pm
Jhill, please be serious. Scott is there because no one else is any good at RDE. Shaughnessy is nothing more than an a preseason hopeful you guys prompt up as a damn starter. He is the same size as Scott and isnt that good of a pass rusher. Please stop
September 1st, 2009 at 9:40 pm
Went back and watched the Dallas game just to see what Shaugnessy looked like on the field. He’s already better than Scott and Richards. At least he was able to beat RBs and TE, and get off of blocks off a LT. More than I can say about those other two.
September 1st, 2009 at 9:41 pm
da d have no scheme 4rm lookin at da saints game I hope my radiers juz wasn’t showin our blitz packages cuz if we hav none johnson baker eugene branch juz not starters in this leauge why not sign chris macllister I would think he is a betta db than those guys he was pretty good man 2 man cover guy wit da ravens and matt jones was meant 2 wear siver and black he tall can run and he has good handz since our yung guyz havein trouble holdin on 2 da ball we can use a sure handed free agent reciver e help uz and teach our yung guy e b real pros
September 1st, 2009 at 9:41 pm
Ooooooooooooh he looked great against scrubs! Guess who looked good last year beating the blocks of scrubs? Trevor Scott. You kill your own argument
September 1st, 2009 at 9:43 pm
Bitchochet why did you run away? I got a few questions for ya………I wanan know how the 49ers are gonna win more than 5 games this season? How are they gonna be able to handle that damn schedule of teams who actually have real skills position players.
September 1st, 2009 at 9:47 pm
The argument is that Scott is a disaster at RDE. He has already proven it. I though you said these games matter? Didn’t you come in here talking about how bad he was after you saw him in person, and that he needed to get off the field?
Which one is it?
Shaugnessy is next in line. You don’t know what he can do. He sucks against the run? Based on what? The one preseason game he played in, he played well. Better than Jay Richards who was playing on the other side of him.
September 1st, 2009 at 9:50 pm
Jhill how many time are you gonna defend Russell? Do you realize that a QB is measured by wins and losses? Do you realize no other position on the field has thier win/loss record used as evidence of them being a worth player or not?
You fools pull up stupid ass stats that dont mean a damn thing. Is this a winning team? Is this team winning the division and making a run into the playoffs during January? Are you really seeing a dynasty built? Multiple playoff appearances?
September 1st, 2009 at 9:52 pm
Scott is there because no one else is any good?
I thought he might be there because they thought he might be as good as he was last year, if not better. Of course he should have been the starter coming into the season. But a blind man can see that he is too light in the arse and simply not getting it done.
Of all the people to endorse the softest player on the Dline, THE CLEAR WEAK LINK ??????? Very surprising to me. I don’t care who you put in there, but Scott is not the answer. Mpve Shaugnessy to LDE and move Ellis to the right side. Heck, do something!
September 1st, 2009 at 9:53 pm
I said I was an advocate of him but as of now it isnt looking good. I make no excuses like most of you guys. But who else do you put at RDE? Shaugnessy looked so great in one preseason game against scrubs woooooooooooooooooo I’m jumping for joy over here. How do I know? Fool I watch the NCAA unlike most people in here. As for him playing one of the three preseason games, doesnt it concern you he is an injury prone player? Yeah he was in college go check it out yourself.
You guys are hyping up players who will do nada.
September 1st, 2009 at 9:54 pm
I was at the facility today got there right after Ice Cube left. He’s actually putting together a video that will air on MNF on Sept. 14th It’s called the “Raider Nation” he wrote a rap tune for the Nation. If you remember NWA were huge Raider fans ezpecially Cube and Easy E.
That’s the second time I barely missed meeting Cube at a Raider practice the last time was in Napa.
Norco Bob, just so you know I’m seriously thinking about calling the show again I got a special request today from a special friend. he said I can’t listen to anymore shows because your never on there. I told him OK alright I’ll start carrying the flag again. When someone like him makes a special request, it’s time.
This defense IMO is really embarrassed I talked to both Kirk and T Howard today and these guy’s seem refocused and ready but it all starts Thursday. So we’ll see.
Lefty12, I really appreciate you as a soldier, when guy’s like Dakota always focus on all the negative which there is considerable reason to do so. But I do remember him telling me how great DMC will be over the sorry Fargas how DMC will turn those 2 yard runs into 80 yard and score 50 TD’s.
Well Dakota I’m still waiting. I told these guy’s about DMC before we drafted him that he goes down toooo easy. Doesn’t break a tackles like he should and doesn’t possess the moves that the great ones possess. So far if I do say myself I look like a prophet. While DMC has great speed you can bring him down with a shoestring tackle and he runs too straight linish. While is a tremendous talent he must be used on the perimeter.
Tommy Trojan whom we haven’t seen since his turf toe injury said DMC was the single greatest back in the history of pro football, better than Gale Sayers and Jim Brown. Now that we’ve seen DMC who in their right mind would make such a claim.
Don’t get me wrong I am a fan of DMC but he is no where near the player these guy’s were making him out to be.
I’m now watching the Green Bay vs Arizona game and you know who I’m watching, yes you got it, The great BJ Raji. The player EVERYONE says would transform our defense. Well I’ll give you my personal assesment after the game.
September 1st, 2009 at 9:58 pm
Russell ????
When did I say anything about Russell?
My bottom line with Russell is there are MUCH bigger issues on the team than him. You could have whoever the F you want in there and Cornell Green would still be lining up offsides and missing his assignments. Carlisle would still suck and so would Satele.
We still have a huge hole on the Dline and at MLB. No SS to speak of, and suspect coaching decisions.
QB of your choice gets us the same 7-9 wins this year that Russell would.
September 1st, 2009 at 10:00 pm
LOL @ Priest.
September 1st, 2009 at 10:01 pm
7 wins. How?
September 1st, 2009 at 10:02 pm
And saying lets move on to the next guy to see if he can get it done is not hyping a player up.
September 1st, 2009 at 10:02 pm
Cmon, Dude …
4 wins against the Donks and the Chiefs. You pick the other 3. Don’t have the schedule and I’m not trying to look it up.
September 1st, 2009 at 10:05 pm
Where does a Raider fan get off guaranteeing a W against ANYBODY? What world do you live in?
September 1st, 2009 at 10:05 pm
Brien,..oh TJ, did you call gary yet?
September 1st, 2009 at 10:05 pm
Jhill, the QB of my choice is Russell!! Have you not read my posts. No one else to start. Garbagecia is awful. Gradkowski is Garbagecia II and Frye isnt good at all.
Our SS is a hurt bastard due to a hammy. The guy we have playing SS should be the FS because Huff and Eugene deserve to be out of the league for life.
September 1st, 2009 at 10:06 pm
# jhill Says:
September 1st, 2009 at 10:02 pm
And saying lets move on to the next guy to see if he can get it done is not hyping a player up.
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Move on to nothing
September 1st, 2009 at 10:07 pm
Oh I see TJ,…I ask you forever and you dont but you have a special friend and so now you will?…that sucks.
September 1st, 2009 at 10:08 pm
BHP, DMAC along with Bush is the only chance we have this year at having an explosive offense. DMAC is the best RB……really offensive player we have. You think not? Then why did Russell beg Cable to put him in more last year? Why will he start come Sept 14th. Its hard to juke when your toes are jacked up.
You love that loser ass bastard Farglass so much but yet notice he does nada good at all for being starting running back
September 1st, 2009 at 10:09 pm
Gerard Warren= starter in the NFL LOL
September 1st, 2009 at 10:09 pm
Bob, it is what it is man your asking me to call a specific show that I have never called. I don’t really have a rapore with Gary so it’s awkward. I don’t know what to say to that dude. That’s why I never did it.
But I’ll start out with him and if it works, well we’ll se he may not like what I bring I’m very hard core. I don’t wnat to talk about what kind of car I drive. lol
September 1st, 2009 at 10:10 pm
Kirk Morrison= leader of a NFL defense LOL
September 1st, 2009 at 10:10 pm
Hiram Eugene and Michael Huff= NFL free safeties LOL
September 1st, 2009 at 10:12 pm
brien you think fargas gets cut?
September 1st, 2009 at 10:12 pm
TJ Gary discovered you and you betrayed him by calling other shows, thats why yyou got banned.
September 1st, 2009 at 10:12 pm
Dude,…stop embarrassing yourself.
September 1st, 2009 at 10:15 pm
Hey Brein, will Aso get cut?
September 1st, 2009 at 10:15 pm
Yes it was dude, thanks.
September 1st, 2009 at 10:16 pm
Nah dude,..but thanks for the laughs,..youre on a roll tonight,..too much soda pop today?
September 1st, 2009 at 10:16 pm
# Dude Says:
September 1st, 2009 at 10:14 pm
I will fuck you up to Boob. You wanna go?
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The little queer has got heart. The Jeff Garbage-cia of the blog
September 1st, 2009 at 10:17 pm
Brien what are your plans for the opener?
September 1st, 2009 at 10:18 pm
# Dude Says:
September 1st, 2009 at 10:15 pm
Hey Brein, will Aso get cut?
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Wow trying to be sarcastic. Aso a pro bowler whose job isnt in question. Farglass is a no talent scholarship player that needs to go pronto
September 1st, 2009 at 10:19 pm
So far I’m waiting until I see this fat astard make a single play. He’s doing the same thing I saw him do in the senior bowl nothing. Hightower is running right at them BJ is getting handled.
All you wannabe GM’s, tell me exactly what this guy does that makes you drool over him?
September 1st, 2009 at 10:19 pm
Fargas’s job isnt in question either.
September 1st, 2009 at 10:19 pm
What RB out of the 3 plays almost all the special teams?
September 1st, 2009 at 10:20 pm
Wanna bet he starts week 1?
September 1st, 2009 at 10:20 pm
Farglass is starting eh Dudette?
September 1st, 2009 at 10:23 pm
OK. The bets on.
September 1st, 2009 at 10:23 pm
I thought he was supposed to be some super NT but they have him playing the 5 tech and he gets zero push.
September 1st, 2009 at 10:24 pm
Raji is nothing but a fat ass slump who will fan out of the league in a few years. He will be rolling up blunts with me very soon
September 1st, 2009 at 10:28 pm
# jhill Says:
September 1st, 2009 at 10:26 pm
If your weed was better, you wouldn’t need that tobacco wrap.
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Yawwwwwwwwwwwwnnnnnnnnnnnnnn. Nice try Jhill but its not working. Everyone knows up north the weed is better than that crap in so cal. Even your own SoCal people know that. People from the north laugh at your weed. Whenever I visit socal now I refuse to smoke that garbage.
Blunts are nothing more than just something us NIGGAZ use on with our weed. It is kinda like going to church or eating soul food. Just comes with our DNA. And Jhill, black folks all over the US use blunts so try again
September 1st, 2009 at 10:28 pm
brien,..that fool dude, keeps sinking deeper with every post,..the more rope they get,..well you get it,…hes a lost cause, and he knows it.
September 1st, 2009 at 10:29 pm
Priesttj Says:
September 1st, 2009 at 10:19 pm
So far I’m waiting until I see this fat astard make a single play. He’s doing the same thing I saw him do in the senior bowl nothing. Hightower is running right at them BJ is getting handled.
All you wannabe GM’s, tell me exactly what this guy does that makes you drool over him?
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The Green Bay Packers and BJ Raji gave up 108 yds rushing and WON.
The Oakland Raiders and Tommy Kelly etal gave up 232 yds rushing and LOST
Thats’s the difference, You wanna be Coach.
September 1st, 2009 at 10:30 pm
brien, …dude couldnt stop engaging you if his life depended upon it…youre so in his head its kiling him.
September 1st, 2009 at 10:31 pm
TJ, what time manana?
September 1st, 2009 at 10:31 pm
It’s in our DNA … LMFAO!
Yeah, like Newports and malt liqour.
September 1st, 2009 at 10:32 pm
BJ Raji is being single blocked by Leonard Davis and it isn’t even a contest.
September 1st, 2009 at 10:33 pm
# jhill Says:
September 1st, 2009 at 10:31 pm
It’s in our DNA … LMFAO!
Yeah, like Newports and malt liqour.
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You damn right! Dont forget purple kool-aid and watching Good Times on TV One
September 1st, 2009 at 10:33 pm
DY-NO-MITE!!!!
September 1st, 2009 at 10:33 pm
Dude, you really are embarassing yourself.
September 1st, 2009 at 10:33 pm
# priesttj Says:
September 1st, 2009 at 10:32 pm
BJ Raji is being single blocked by Leonard Davis and it isn’t even a contest.
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Fat bum and I’m glad Al didn’t get him. Wanted Al to trade down but Al refuses to do so oh well
September 1st, 2009 at 10:34 pm
I don’t know why you’re holding out …
You might as well go all in and get on that pork!
September 1st, 2009 at 10:35 pm
Hahaha apparently its in Bob’s DNA too! LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
September 1st, 2009 at 10:35 pm
What’s a pack of the GDP going for B?
September 1st, 2009 at 10:36 pm
I saw jimmie walker live,..hes hilarious.
September 1st, 2009 at 10:36 pm
Maybe it’s not Leonard Davis but whoeve #79 is the guy is dominating Raji.
September 1st, 2009 at 10:38 pm
# jhill Says:
September 1st, 2009 at 10:35 pm
What’s a pack of the GDP going for B?
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I dunno you tell me
September 1st, 2009 at 10:40 pm
Brien<————-plans to be at opener. Anyone that would like to smoke, drink, speak or think they can whoop my ass is surely invited
September 1st, 2009 at 10:40 pm
I’m not up there ….
September 1st, 2009 at 10:41 pm
Seriously!
September 1st, 2009 at 10:42 pm
Brien what do mean refuses to do so? how do you know that?
September 1st, 2009 at 10:44 pm
BHP, Al refuses to trade down and there is mountain of evidence to prove this. IMO he should have traded that number 7 pick so we could have had more defensive front 7 help. did we get that in the draft? Dont sell me the Shuaghnessy pick because that is some bullshyt
September 1st, 2009 at 10:46 pm
Al is the greatest but dammit lately things arent looking hot. I’m tired of losing and the excuses made on this site are beyond belief. Al has been picking bad players and coaches for years. That is the biggest reason why we stink. At least he does admit his faults so Al is at least a man
September 1st, 2009 at 10:50 pm
Brien<————leaving the building. A nice bottle of Jose is waiting for me. See ya guys later………..oh and you ladies as well(Bitchochet,Beecher,Dudette and Simple n Crap)
September 1st, 2009 at 10:51 pm
Scratch everything I said, That is NOT BJ Raji and the RT #75 is actually Levi Brown. Who looks great the guy that I thought was Raji is actually Jolly. I had to get a football book to get the right lineup. BJ Raji hasn’t even played yet.
Sorry my bad!!
These announcers are terrible you don’t even know who’s in the game. They don’t tell you squat. They never announced the lineups so I assumed I was reading Raji until I saw the Y instead of an I.
September 1st, 2009 at 11:04 pm
The Raiders are currently ranked last in the league in Rushing Defense. 211 yds per game.
http://www.nfl.com/stats/categorystats?tabSeq=2&defensiveStatisticCategory=RUSHING&conference=ALL&role=OPP&season=2009&seasonType=PRE&d-447263-s=RUSHING_YARDS_PER_GAME_AVG&d-447263-o=1&d-447263-n=1
September 1st, 2009 at 11:06 pm
Meanwhile the Packers are giving up 85 yds per game on the ground.
So, you look stupid calling BJ Raji a fat bastard.
September 1st, 2009 at 11:11 pm
KK-quoting stats from practice games?you can’t be serious?
September 1st, 2009 at 11:13 pm
Brien, if you can’t see what’s going on what do you want me to say. You watch football and you should know. Russell is playing very well. Stats are facts which are the only facts that people can share with you anything else is opinion. If you want throw out a bunch of demands and expectation on him that’s for you to do. If we don’y agree we don’t agree it’s not an excuse it’s our opinion which is just as valid as yours.
Saying Russell should win a SB this year or he’s not getting it done is ludicrous plaina nd simple. Only ne QB will win the SB this year and there will still be other QB’s that had great years. He may be one of them. And the Raiders record could be 8&8 same as Drew Brees last year.
The QB has to be the leader of the team but that team may be a bad team. If that is the case THEY WONT WIN…………period, no matter how great he is.
S you making all thesee demands on him because he’s the QB is crazy. I saw the best QB that I’ve ever seen go to ONE SB and he lost BAD. His name is Dan Marino you ever heard of him? But based n your demands he would be considered a bum. That is NUTS!! in any language. Walter Paytn lost for almost ten years before he had a chance to win and are you telling me he’s a loser. Or guy’s like John Hadl, Dan Fouts, Warren Moon and a great crowd of other great QB’s were just bums. I aint buying it and neither are you that’s just foolishness……………period
September 1st, 2009 at 11:14 pm
Rookie Receiver Stats
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Jeremy Maclin ranked 2nd with 10 catches.
Louis Murphy ranked 9th with 7 catches.
Brandon Meyers ranked 9th with 7 catches
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Darrius Heyward-Bey ranked 59th with 2 catches.
September 1st, 2009 at 11:17 pm
Lefty
Giving up 211 yds per practice game is not relevant?????
Even after ranking last in the same category last year? Really?
September 1st, 2009 at 11:19 pm
# priesttj Says:
September 1st, 2009 at 11:13 pm
Brien, if you can’t see what’s going on what do you want me to say. You watch football and you should know. Russell is playing very well. Stats are facts which are the only facts that people can share with you anything else is opinion. If you want throw out a bunch of demands and expectation on him that’s for you to do. If we don’y agree we don’t agree it’s not an excuse it’s our opinion which is just as valid as yours.
Saying Russell should win a SB this year or he’s not getting it done is ludicrous plaina nd simple. Only ne QB will win the SB this year and there will still be other QB’s that had great years. He may be one of them. And the Raiders record could be 8&8 same as Drew Brees last year.
The QB has to be the leader of the team but that team may be a bad team. If that is the case THEY WONT WIN…………period, no matter how great he is.
S you making all thesee demands on him because he’s the QB is crazy. I saw the best QB that I’ve ever seen go to ONE SB and he lost BAD. His name is Dan Marino you ever heard of him? But based n your demands he would be considered a bum. That is NUTS!! in any language. Walter Paytn lost for almost ten years before he had a chance to win and are you telling me he’s a loser. Or guy’s like John Hadl, Dan Fouts, Warren Moon and a great crowd of other great QB’s were just bums. I aint buying it and neither are you that’s just foolishness……………period
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When did I say Super Bowl? The AFC west is a god damn joke! Russell better lead the troops toward the top of the division this year. If he is a leader of a bad team year in and year out then the guy is a bad leader!
Haha Dan Marino was the best QB? Stop it right now. Dont give me the ifs ifs ifs.
Stats never tell the true story. You wants stats? They got a course on it at Laney College on tuesdays and thursdays. You can learn all you want about stats right there
September 1st, 2009 at 11:20 pm
BHP, 8-8 will do me just fine! 8-8 should win our garbage ass division. How long will you wait until he shows us he was worth the number 1 pick? 2013?
September 1st, 2009 at 11:20 pm
in 2008 the detroit lions went 4-0 in their practice games,so yes,any stats compiled in practice games are meaningless.
September 1st, 2009 at 11:20 pm
Lefty12, hahahah look at this guy posting preseason stats hhahhahhaha. What will he resort to next?
Hey KK, what were our stats the year we won 4 straight games in preseason only to win two games in the regular season? I’m sure you have those tucked away somewhere.
September 1st, 2009 at 11:23 pm
Yeah Dan Marino was the best QB I ever saw wether you agee or not is your own afair. But I never saw a better player at that position since I’ve been watching football.
September 1st, 2009 at 11:24 pm
Stats don’t tell the story, really?
You mean to tell me 24-72, don’t tell a story? really.
September 1st, 2009 at 11:26 pm
Brien obviously your opinion and mine differ greatly I know what I’m looking at and Russell is playing wether you like it or not. Any coach would be happy with his performance in preseason so far.
Ask yourself do you hear any reporters questioning his committment anymore? And if you don’t think they would LOVE to you’re blind. No one is writing negative stuff concerning Russell anymore because they can’t…………period
September 1st, 2009 at 11:31 pm
Priesttj Says:
September 1st, 2009 at 11:20 pm
Lefty12, hahahah look at this guy posting preseason stats hhahhahhaha. What will he resort to next?
Priesttj Says:
September 1st, 2009 at 11:26 pm
Brien obviously your opinion and mine differ greatly I know what I’m looking at and Russell is playing wether you like it or not. Any coach would be happy with his performance in preseason so far.
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No integrity whatsoever, lol.
September 1st, 2009 at 11:32 pm
# priesttj Says:
September 1st, 2009 at 11:23 pm
Yeah Dan Marino was the best QB I ever saw wether you agee or not is your own afair. But I never saw a better player at that position since I’ve been watching football.
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I’m glad he doesnt read this blog otherwise his already big ass head would grow into an explosion.
Marino was a great QB but not the greatest. Elway was better and so was Montana(one man team).
September 1st, 2009 at 11:33 pm
you should talk!
September 1st, 2009 at 11:34 pm
# KoolKell Says:
September 1st, 2009 at 11:24 pm
Stats don’t tell the story, really?
You mean to tell me 24-72, don’t tell a story? really.
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Oh spare me old man. What is the Chargers,Cowboys,Saints,Titans and Packers record over that time? Tell me how many titles have they won as well
September 1st, 2009 at 11:35 pm
KK-i’ll admit we haven’t looked good vs the run or the pass for that matter.but i have to believe a lot of that is due to the fact we are evaluating players and playing a very basic scheme.just is on Off. i believe we haven’t played the same Off. we will employ during the season.Flores mentioned during the NO game that NO seemed to be throwing the house at us will we were running vanilla schemes.
September 1st, 2009 at 11:35 pm
Leftster………..basic scheme? Al Davis defense? Flores making excuses with that great rug on his dome! New Orleans kicked our ass all over the field and we didnt win one battle. Excuses excuses excuses
September 1st, 2009 at 11:37 pm
Flores mentioned during the NO game that NO seemed to be throwing the house at us will we were running vanilla schemes.
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I Don’t doubt it, the Raiders ALWAYS run vanilla schemes. I don’t they’re capable or allowed to do anything else.
September 1st, 2009 at 11:37 pm
Brien you sound like a lot of ignorant Raider fans that I talk to everyday. You have no idea what you’re looking at. This is hands down the best prospect we’ve had at QB in 30 years and these idiots can’t see it.
Organizations wait a lifetime for a prspect like Russell and we have one and these dumbells do nothing but rip him. If you think this kid is ordinary you are clueless……………period
September 1st, 2009 at 11:39 pm
BHP, you guys got it as if I’m saying start Garbage-cia or something. Russell does look a little better but I want more and you guys should as well. Waiting on 2013 does nothing for now. The guy has been in the league for 3 years. Either he gets by year’s end or he never will. Name the high draft choice QBs in the last decade to take 4-5 years to develop into elite QBs. I’ll wait
September 1st, 2009 at 11:41 pm
# priesttj Says:
September 1st, 2009 at 11:37 pm
Brien you sound like a lot of ignorant Raider fans that I talk to everyday. You have no idea what you’re looking at. This is hands down the best prospect we’ve had at QB in 30 years and these idiots can’t see it.
Organizations wait a lifetime for a prspect like Russell and we have one and these dumbells do nothing but rip him. If you think this kid is ordinary you are clueless……………period
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Haha hands down the best QB prospect in the last 30 years lol. Who are you comparing him to? Please I cant wait to hear this one. The kid’s potential isnt ordinary and I agree. But right now all he has is potential. That potential better turn into wins, divivison titles, pro bowls and super bowls god dammit
September 1st, 2009 at 11:42 pm
That answer your question old man?
September 1st, 2009 at 11:44 pm
Brien
Why is it that you and Narcotics Bob’s see my posts before they’re posted?
September 1st, 2009 at 11:45 pm
no excuses,just facts.sure they kicked our butts.they also threw stunts and blitzes the whole game.we played very basic defensively and it was obvious we were working on our passing game offensively.was that the team and game plans we will see every week-i seriously doubt it.will we be a good or bad team-we won’t know until we start playing games that count.the last time i looked our 2009 record is 0-0.quit putting so much credence on a phucking practice game.i thought you knew football better than that!
September 1st, 2009 at 11:48 pm
No leftster I’m putting credence on how the first string O and D have looked since training camp. I’ve been hard on the team because this foolishness needs to stop. Losing and not giving a damn is what pisses me off. I was at the fucking game and saw the players chuckling as we got embarrassed.
I remember months ago people blasted me for my accusations of the team partying too much. That shit sute came to a head on Saturday huh?
September 1st, 2009 at 11:48 pm
# KoolKell Says:
September 1st, 2009 at 11:44 pm
Brien
Why is it that you and Narcotics Bob’s see my posts before they’re posted?
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The same reason why you spew the same vomit every time you are on the blog………because we can
September 1st, 2009 at 11:50 pm
Kell, if you haven’t noticed, you are one easy character who foreshadows everything he does or says. Not real difficult
September 1st, 2009 at 11:50 pm
LA to TheBay Says:
September 1st, 2009 at 11:46 am
oh, and First, beeyutch. That would be cool if Cube didn’t sell out and go Disney.
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LOL. And who are you to call Cube a sellout? Tookie Williams? Davis kool aid drinkers now dabbling into armchair gangsterism. I’ve seen it all.
September 1st, 2009 at 11:51 pm
Brien<—————-Jose is destroying him LOL
September 1st, 2009 at 11:52 pm
I’m sick of the losses. I’m sick of watching the great people’s faces at the bars, in the street or at the game. These great people in the bay area deserve better than this. How do a bunch of millionaires have to learn to re-dedicate themselves and be professional as Zach Miller talked about in today’s paper?
September 1st, 2009 at 11:52 pm
Brien
Do you and Narc work for the blog in some capacity. You’re both certainly on here enough. I post maybe 5 times a day. You 2 post about 50 times per day, and get away with it.
September 1st, 2009 at 11:53 pm
Brien listen man, do yu have any idea what it takes to do what Russell is doing?
have you ever heard of Aaron Rogers in Green Bay I think he’s in his 5th year and he’s finally arrived. You ever heard Eli Manning it took him about his 4th year. You ever heard of Drew Brees it took him about his 4th year. You ever heard Ben Roethlesberger It took him about the same time to become a legitimate top notch QB. You ever Matt Hasselbach took him about 5 years so yeah I have seen it take QB’s 4-5 years to become great.
That’s been the case ever since I’ve watched NFL football. Looka at Matt Leinert he could take longer. Look at Brady Quinn Russell is light years ahead that guy.
Oh by the way if you’re not a fan what are you a pro? and what team do you work for. I’m a fan we’re all fans if you don’t work for a team. I don’t get your indignation.
September 1st, 2009 at 11:53 pm
Brien!!!!
September 1st, 2009 at 11:54 pm
how do you know what they’ve looked like since training camp.all you know is what you read or hear.all i’ve seen offensively is them working on their passing game.i’ve read they plan on putting much more pressure on the qb on Def. but i have yet to see any of that.we really don’t know what they are going to do.they may be the same old Raiders,but then again,they may not.
September 1st, 2009 at 11:54 pm
Preist I’m too tired to pull up the number on all of those quarterbacks you named, but I guarantee you they were doing better than Russell earlier in their careers.
September 1st, 2009 at 11:55 pm
# KoolKell Says:
September 1st, 2009 at 11:52 pm
Brien
Do you and Narc work for the blog in some capacity. You’re both certainly on here enough. I post maybe 5 times a day. You 2 post about 50 times per day, and get away with it.
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Old man, have you just gone crazy or are you just that dumb?
If I worked for the blog then why would I have been kicked off before registration went bad? Bob has been kicked off as well.
If anyone works for the blog its you!
September 1st, 2009 at 11:55 pm
Wow MR is here to display the hate. What do you want?
September 1st, 2009 at 11:56 pm
MR
Look at posts # 328, 330, 331, 336.
Whaddya think?
I had the same experience earlier today with Narc Bob.
September 1st, 2009 at 11:56 pm
Nothing, Brien. Just spreading the hate.
September 1st, 2009 at 11:56 pm
Kell, most of us have known Brien and Norco are the same person for about a year now. Another tip: Oakglenn can’t resist the multiple question marks????????? when using his troll names.
September 1st, 2009 at 11:57 pm
Interesting…
Re unite Bowe and Russell?
http://www.raidernationstation.com/exclusives
September 1st, 2009 at 11:59 pm
Brien, you’re a fan. A big fan.
September 1st, 2009 at 11:59 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
September 1st, 2009 at 11:56 pm
Kell, most of us have known Brien and Norco are the same person for about a year now. Another tip: Oakglenn can’t resist the multiple question marks????????? when using his troll names.
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Yes, of course, but why are they able to answer my posts before they are posted? Check it out again, please.
September 2nd, 2009 at 12:01 am
# priesttj Says:
September 1st, 2009 at 11:53 pm
Brien listen man, do yu have any idea what it takes to do what Russell is doing?
have you ever heard of Aaron Rogers in Green Bay I think he’s in his 5th year and he’s finally arrived. You ever heard Eli Manning it took him about his 4th year. You ever heard of Drew Brees it took him about his 4th year. You ever heard Ben Roethlesberger It took him about the same time to become a legitimate top notch QB. You ever Matt Hasselbach took him about 5 years so yeah I have seen it take QB’s 4-5 years to become great.
That’s been the case ever since I’ve watched NFL football. Looka at Matt Leinert he could take longer. Look at Brady Quinn Russell is light years ahead that guy.
Oh by the way if you’re not a fan what are you a pro? and what team do you work for. I’m a fan we’re all fans if you don’t work for a team. I don’t get your indignation.
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Aaron Rodgers was behind a living legend that wouldnt let go and the franchise knew he was ready. Rodgers really had a good stats year in 2008. His first year starting was more proof that Russell’s. Eli Manning’s team won the division in 2005 his second year and haven’t missed the postseason since! Ben Rapistbeger is a two time champ, just quit. No one hasnt ever questioned him. He parties his ass off rapes women and still wins. Russell? Hasslebeck was a 6th round pick man! Stop reaching.
Matt Liehnart sucks and let Jesus…….i mean Kurt Warner take his shine. Sissy Brady Quinn sat behind a pro bowl QB and will start this season.
I’m not a damn fan. I’m above it. If you guys dont get it then that is your problem not mine
September 2nd, 2009 at 12:02 am
So explain how Norco Bob and I are in the room at the same time as we have been over the last year? Please MR and Old man Keller, tell me that one
September 2nd, 2009 at 12:04 am
Brien The General Says:
September 2nd, 2009 at 12:01 am
I’m not a damn fan. I’m above it. If you guys dont get it then that is your problem not mine
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Something wrong with football fans, Brien?
September 2nd, 2009 at 12:04 am
# Nnamdi21 Says:
September 1st, 2009 at 11:57 pm
Interesting…
Re unite Bowe and Russell?
http://www.raidernationstation.com/exclusives
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Yeah let’s get a damn underachieving WR. That will work
September 2nd, 2009 at 12:05 am
Old Keller, no there isnt. I have no issue with fans. I’m just not one
September 2nd, 2009 at 12:07 am
# The Real MaddenRaider Says:
September 1st, 2009 at 11:59 pm
Brien, you’re a fan. A big fan.
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You’re a fan of the Culture Club. A big fan. The hugest fan. The president of the Culture Club fan company
September 2nd, 2009 at 12:07 am
Brien The General Says:
September 2nd, 2009 at 12:01 am
I’m not a damn fan. I’m above it. If you guys dont get it then that is your problem not mine.
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Why would that be our problem, Brien. If you’re not being recognized for your true status, that’s your problem, no?
September 2nd, 2009 at 12:08 am
MR= ” we’re dinking, we’re dunking……we’re really doing something”
How did you like your pogo stick jump pass throwing QB this weekend.
When Garbage-cia passes they should play that old Kris Kross Song…….”jump jump”
September 2nd, 2009 at 12:09 am
# KoolKell Says:
September 2nd, 2009 at 12:07 am
Brien The General Says:
September 2nd, 2009 at 12:01 am
I’m not a damn fan. I’m above it. If you guys dont get it then that is your problem not mine.
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Why would that be our problem, Brien. If you’re not being recognized for your true status, that’s your problem, no?
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The problem is you guys dont know any better and I have to tell you so. Not really yall fault. you are just as dumb and ignorant as you can be
September 2nd, 2009 at 12:09 am
Well name your list of QB’s that started out the way you say they shuld and I’ll name the ns that didn’t guess which list will be much much longer. All 1st rnders….That is the single toughest position in sports. Big Ben won but he had very little to do with it. Big Ben is just now becoming a great QB starting last year. He just managed games. Like Matt Ryan and Joe Flacco they ask those guy’s to manage the game they don’t win games throwing. Hell Trent Dilfer did the same damn thing.
Those aren’t great QB’s by any stretch.
September 2nd, 2009 at 12:15 am
# KoolKell Says:
September 2nd, 2009 at 12:12 am
Brien The General Says:
September 2nd, 2009 at 12:09 am
The problem is you guys dont know any better and I have to tell you so. Not really yall fault. you are just as dumb and ignorant as you can be
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How do you know better, Brien?
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Was raised that way. Too bad you and your idiot TWA(teeny weeny afro) negro black panther bastards never were taught that.
September 2nd, 2009 at 12:16 am
Damn this Jose is on point mayne!!!!!!!!!!!!!
September 2nd, 2009 at 12:28 am
Uh! I can deny that Flacco was given half the playbook and struggled in some games eventhough they still won. Matt Ryan stuggled in games that they still won in spite of him.
In the Steelers first SB with Ben he was absolutely horrible. But the refs found a way to give the Steelers the game even in the game win he tackled that guy he was average at best. Russell had some great games last year and some terrible ones like everybody else.
But I’m a little tired you see it very differently than I do I’ll take Russell over any of these young QB’s hands down.
September 2nd, 2009 at 12:38 am
Priest-people want JR to fail.it will reenforce their anti AD stance.hell,i heard Grant Napar on 1140-khtk say JR was the worst QB in football.he actually went off about how terrible JR has been this preseason.said last Sat. game was one the worst exhibitions he has ever seen by a pro QB-i’m not making this up either.
September 2nd, 2009 at 12:42 am
Lefty when did I say Russell was horrible or worst in the league? I never said that. Go read my posts and you will see I want him to succeed more than anyone. I just choose to be real harsh on him because he is the number one pick and he better be great or else he will be seen as a bust
September 2nd, 2009 at 12:44 am
You people are so soft on Russell no wonder he walk around with a I dont give a damn attitude. I cant blame him then. I blame you guys!
September 2nd, 2009 at 12:46 am
Brien-i never said YOU said that.Grant Napar on khtk said it.Brien,i know you are a diehard.we may not always agree but thats fine,i know you have the Raiders best interest at heart,unlike many on here.please re-read what i posted.it wasn’t directed at you in the least.
September 2nd, 2009 at 12:48 am
Ok then Leftster. I’m for Russell to win. I dont want anyone else starting for this team in 2009. I saw the guy in college and watch him as a pro. I know he has the talent to be a title winning QB but he has to dig deeper than he is digging. I shouldnt keep hearing these stories about him not taking it serious. I believe what people on the streets say than the damn media for damn sure. When both parties say the same, what am I suppose to think?
September 2nd, 2009 at 12:49 am
Diehard is a movie or a damn car battery. Raiders dont die
September 2nd, 2009 at 12:52 am
Fa realz………….im gone. Time to lay it down
September 2nd, 2009 at 12:58 am
i have the same concerns.i heard that when he came out of college.but i am seeing progress.i hear him starting to say the right things.he is still a kid,albeit a very rich one.all we can do is hope his ego kicks in and makes him want to be the best.because he is so young,i’m willing to give him more time than i would some others.and whether you like it or not,you are a diehard Raider fanatic.
September 2nd, 2009 at 4:43 am
If Davis really wants to win two more SuperBowls before he sells/dies/retires/self-combusts then he needs to start making some hard decisions:
1) Is Tom Cable really going to take the Raiders to the highest level? Does he have the man-management skills, the locker-room leadership, the tactical acumen to compete at the highest level?
My take is that Cable is solid, loyal, passionate but is scarily unproven. His track-record doesn’t inspire and his demeanour doesn’t suggest a man with a plan. Kiffin was an immature pup – but he knew what he wanted and had the same egotistical surety as Belichick, Gruden, etc. Kiffin will win in Tennessee, maybe not in 2009, but he will succeed whatever the cost in popularity. Does Cable have that inner-strength?
2) Is the Raiders’ game of the 70’s and 80’s going to deliver results in the modern age. 4:3, no blitz, vertical offense, etc. – are these still valid or are they tactical millstones around this team’s neck?
My take is that Al needs to stand aside and let his coach write a playbook for 2009 – something we can win with now. This team is not a tribute band for the Flores years. Our Oline and Dlines are just not good enough. Our Defense plays soft and relies too much on speed. Our Offense is sketchy and cannot grind out the wins. We have to wise up and modernise.
3) Is the Raiders draft room full of the right people with the right skills and the right judgement? The old Raiders way (small college, track speed, etc.) is questionable at best. Some (Mayock etc.) call it a joke.
My take is that our front office/scout/personnel staff are out-of-date. We need a cull. Blood on the Alameda carpet. We have the highest wages in the NFL. We have had more top 10 draft picks in past decade than almost any other team. And what do we have to show for that. Not much…just ask Drew Brees.
September 2nd, 2009 at 4:50 am
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September 2nd, 2009 at 4:57 am
It has been great reading today. Thanks to all, Brian, KoolKell, T.J., Lefty and Scotish.
September 2nd, 2009 at 4:59 am
As stated previously, we had a lot of holes to fill this year.
OL, DL and WR were all problems. Big problems.
It seems we also have problems at LB as well. I just don’t get it when we keep drafting small LB’s and DE’s, when our whole challenge is stopping the run.
These dudes are getting blown out. Why the hell did we draft a TE and 2 WR’s and not any beef on either side of the ball? All the guys we drafted are LIGHT. No power.
September 2nd, 2009 at 6:07 am
Copenhagan, we lack power, resilience and menace on both the offense and defense lines. We have just wasted too many draft picks and too much salary on too many high risk skill players. If you look at teams like the Pats, Colts, Steelers, they usually use their 3rd, 4th and 5th round picks on big, tough linemen – guys with good power, good engines. This strengthens the core of the team and allows the skills players more scope.
We simply haven’t invested enough in our linemen. Our starters are mainly other teams’ cast-offs and we have no back-ups of much promise. Yes, I am still fuming that we passed up on Eugene Monroe but, I could have forgiven that oversight if we have used our other picks better.
We took Mike Mitchell at 47. We could/should have taken Max Unger (C) or Andy Levitre (G) or Phil Loadholt (OT).
We took Matt Shaughnessy at 71. We could/should have taken Terrence Knighton (DT) or Robert Brewster (OT) or Louis Vasquez (G).
We took Louis Murphy at 124 and Slade Norris at 126. We could/should have taken Laurence Sidbury (DE) or Troy Kropog (OT) or Terrance Taylor (DT).
The wasted opportunities to strengthen our lines is a scandal. Either Al Davis is guilty of making poor decisions or he is guilty of employing idiots how are crucifying this team with poor draft picks.
September 2nd, 2009 at 6:11 am
Good Morning Nation!!!
Not much to say here that hasn’t already been said!
September 2nd, 2009 at 6:14 am
Good Morning NATION!!!
September 2nd, 2009 at 6:18 am
What’s up fellas maybe Aso toughness will rub off on some of these other guys.
September 2nd, 2009 at 6:21 am
I hope so NMF.
If nothing improves, Aso will be gone next year! And that would be a shame~!
September 2nd, 2009 at 6:25 am
GOOD MORNING SPORT’S FAN’S. HEARD THE RAIDER’S WILL WEAR WHITE JERSEY’S 4 HOME OPENER,SAN DIEGO THIER POWDER-BLUE’S,THE AFL 50TH ANEV. THROW BACK THING. ANYONE ELSE READ ABOUT THIS ?
September 2nd, 2009 at 6:29 am
Good Morning Dirt Lot,
Yeah, the Raiders (along with the rest of the original AFL) are wearing their “white” throw back jerseys on Monday night and I believe 3 other times during the season. I hope Russell doesn’t get confused because I heard those jerseys are hard to see, especially at night!
September 2nd, 2009 at 6:34 am
THX HWNDR, WHAT’S WRONG WITH THE BLACK HOME JERSEY’S, DAMN LEAGUE,ALWAY’S SCREW’N WITH SOMETHING..WAS GLAD 2 MEET U LAST WEEKEND, MAYBE WE CAN HOOK UP AT THE OPENER 4 A BEER OR 10.
September 2nd, 2009 at 6:39 am
WR Louis Murphy with right foot sprain, cutting when teammate stepped on his foot.
Louis Murphy said he’ll play Thursday, the foot sprain is nothing serious.
-David White (twitter)
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Murphy is willing to play hurt as well! Hopefully he won’t drop the ball …
September 2nd, 2009 at 6:40 am
MAYBE WE CAN HOOK UP AT THE OPENER 4 A BEER OR 10.
I like that…a beer or 10!
I’ll let you know. It all depends if I can change my schedule for that Tuesday. It was good to meet you, too! Its always good to put a face with the name…
September 2nd, 2009 at 6:42 am
Morninng NATION!!!!!!
Walker is starting b/c he needs reps I dnt really see him and DHB starting over Higgins in the opener tho…I believe he and Walker will both get about 50-60 REC this year spliting time but he is the healthiest one and they dnt want him banged up….
HAha this was awesome!!!!
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RaiderRockstar Says:
September 1st, 2009 at 2:48 pm
Cable estimated there are between 40 and 42 players who have the roster made, barring injury.
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who wants to bet 3 of them are Fargas, Green & Eugene?
September 2nd, 2009 at 6:42 am
Bucs claimed center Jonathan Compas one day after the Raiders released the undrafted free agent.
-David White (SF Gate)
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why would we cut him if Wade is still hurt and Satele isn’t living up to expectations?
Should have cut Sands instead!
September 2nd, 2009 at 6:45 am
too bad they have JLH pigeon holed as a punt returner/slot receiver. This kid has the potential of a Steve Smith (Carolina)
sort of like Michael Bush pigeon holed as a short yardage/goaline back. This kid could be the next Brandon Jacobs (NYG)
hopefully Cable can find creative ways to get the ball to the playmakers on offense. and no – Fargas is not considered a playmaker, he’s considered a role player
September 2nd, 2009 at 6:50 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
September 2nd, 2009 at 6:45 am
too bad they have JLH pigeon holed as a punt returner/slot receiver. This kid has the potential of a Steve Smith (Carolina)
sort of like Michael Bush pigeon holed as a short yardage/goaline back. This kid could be the next Brandon Jacobs (NYG)
hopefully Cable can find creative ways to get the ball to the playmakers on offense. and no – Fargas is not considered a playmaker, he’s considered a role player
I have to agree, Rockstar!!! Especially with the last sentence!
September 2nd, 2009 at 6:54 am
wow. 4eva, NMF, Dirt Lot, OAKlifer, Hwnrdr …
THE GOOD OL’ DAYS!
what ever happened to LMN ???
September 2nd, 2009 at 6:56 am
That’s a good question! Someone mentioned on here that they heard he was on a month or two month vacation. If that is true, that must really be nice. That is probably something I need right now! Ok, not really…
September 2nd, 2009 at 7:05 am
I got a 4 day weekend coming up.
gotta get through today & tomorrow first though
2 month vacation?
who is he, the president? haha
September 2nd, 2009 at 7:05 am
Morning Double R!!! Gotta love the good ‘ol days!!!!!
FREE LMN!!!!!!!!!!
# Nnamdi21 Says:
September 1st, 2009 at 11:57 pm
Interesting…
Re unite Bowe and Russell?
http://www.raidernationstation.com/exclusives
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This wont happen they just released Toomer and are just as thin as us they been signin every 2bit WR out there to fill spots this is a fantasy…But did you guys hear the B. Marshall to Jets Rumor???? Damn if tha goes down Denver will burn in flames but if they keep adding talent with all these draft picks they may be relevant again by like 2015!!! LOLHAHAHAH
September 2nd, 2009 at 7:10 am
If you get here early enough it is still readable!!!
AM crew owns this place the rest is usally useless banter!!!!
Gabby!!!!!!!!!!!ANOTHER ROUND!!!!!! im out of Heem for my coffe!!!!!!
September 2nd, 2009 at 7:11 am
trade Fargas, Sands, Garcia and Nick Miller to KC for DeWayne Bowe!
September 2nd, 2009 at 7:14 am
Gabby, please don’t make OAKlifer pour Kool-Aid in his coffee cup again. keep that sucker topped off!
your tip depends on it!
September 2nd, 2009 at 7:15 am
LOL. Schilens, Higgins, Heyward-Bey, Murphy, Walker, Bowe
can you imagine?
we’d have the best WR corps in the league!
I guess it wouldn’t matter though w/o any improvements on the o-line
September 2nd, 2009 at 7:17 am
trade Fargas, Sands, Garcia and Nick Miller to KC
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WHO????
Their practice squad is looking good already….this wont work!!!
September 2nd, 2009 at 7:22 am
WHO????
Their practice squad is looking good already….this wont work!!!
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LOL! true enough
September 2nd, 2009 at 7:23 am
No seriously who is the second guy on the list……
September 2nd, 2009 at 7:24 am
“Yeremiah Bell and Gibril Wilson are more than capable against the run, but if they’re trying to help the corners out, they might be a half-step too late in coverage,” said former Denver general manager Ted Sundquist, who also noted the safeties missed tackles against Tampa Bay.
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lol.Yeah, we know.
September 2nd, 2009 at 7:25 am
Any one hear bout Fat Tits???? Smith held out for 32 days then broke his foot in like the second or third practice!! LOLLLOLOL
September 2nd, 2009 at 7:27 am
Andrew Walter on the Pats… “As far as the organization goes, you can tell it’s run very efficiently. Coming from where I came from, I sense the differences and see them.’’
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Gee, really? Never would have guessed that.
September 2nd, 2009 at 7:35 am
No new info, but good read…
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2009/09/02/SP9V194AV4.DTL&feed=rss.raiders
September 2nd, 2009 at 7:38 am
Andrew Walter was a stiff bust. What did you expect him to say he’s trying to stay on the Patsy roster not be loyal to Raiders.
September 2nd, 2009 at 7:38 am
Priesttj Says:
Lefty12, I really appreciate you as a soldier, when guy’s like Dakota always focus on all the negative which there is considerable reason to do so. But I do remember him telling me how great DMC will be over the sorry Fargas how DMC will turn those 2 yard runs into 80 yard and score 50 TD’s.
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McFadden will make you eat those words this year…he was INJURED last year for cripes sake!
And last night I thought about why I seem to dwell on the negative when it comes to the Lakers…I consulted Nancy Reagan and she told me that since I am a Taurus, I am prone to being pessimistic.
See, I can’t help it…born that way, lol.
We are going to suck.
September 2nd, 2009 at 7:43 am
What’s up, AM Crew?
I’ll be interested to read Cable’s plan for Thursday’s game as far as who’s playing.
My guess is we see a whole lotta Nick Miller and our second tier receivers.
Murphy and DHB will probably get limited action, trying to keep them fresh, but I need to see more outta these youngsters. Good that they threw Murphy to the wolves, but I’d like to see the same with DHB.
He’s turning out to be a pretty expensive decoy thus far. And that doesn’t mean much when you don’t have enough time to the throw the ball, and when you are able to throw, the othe rookie wideout can’t hold on to the damn thing….
September 2nd, 2009 at 7:43 am
Have a good day Nation!!! Time to do some work…
September 2nd, 2009 at 7:47 am
Later hwnrdr,
Raider on brother!!!!!!!!!!!
P.S. Dont work to hard!!!!
September 2nd, 2009 at 7:47 am
Dakota,
I think your boy McFadden will have a very productive season, but I think the real key to the run game is Bush. We all see the potential here.
Bush is a big back, good between the tackles, but very strong off tackle as well. He’s fast as hell, considering that frame of his.
I think Cable knows to win, he’s gotta unleash these two.
September 2nd, 2009 at 7:49 am
Andrew Walters,
Was not a reliable 2nd QB but he does raise some goos points in this article. Nothing new what he is saying but understandable. I can still recall how they made this guy suffer for a whole year putting him in front of the firing squad during the Art Shell year of terror. Remember Jerry Porter laughing on the sidelines eating a hot dog and drinking rum and coke. Brooks faked injuries right into retirement, he wanted none of that action.
http://www.boston.com/sports/football/patriots/articles/2009/09/02/thrown_into_fast_lane_walter_gets_up_to_speed/?page=1
September 2nd, 2009 at 7:52 am
Mark my word you heard it her with CJ loud and clear
“IF THEY DO NOT PLAY BUSH HE WILL ASK TO BE TRADED AND THE NEXT TEAM HE GOES TO, HE WILL GET 1200+ YARDS FOR THE SEASON. 1000 YARD BACK EASSSSSSSYYYYYY!!!!!!!!”
September 2nd, 2009 at 7:52 am
I will even say if Cable does not paly this guy than he is a bigger @$$ than Al! No, I did not say he has a bigger ass than Al we all know that. I said he will be a bigger @$$ than let me 8 ball a superstar Al Davis.
September 2nd, 2009 at 7:53 am
I consulted Nancy Reagan and she told me that since I am a Taurus, I am prone to being pessimistic.
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YOUR a Taurus? My gawd, you & I have so much in common & yet are soooo different & stubborn!!! Hahahaha
September 2nd, 2009 at 7:54 am
Did I say Lakers? Wow…I meant RAIDERS…oooops, lol.
September 2nd, 2009 at 7:55 am
LA:
I called into the Raiders’ radio post-game show last Saturday after the game saying the following:
I guess there’s 2 ways one can approach the preseason:
1. Show as little as possible of your “weapons” and schemes, with the idea of completely surprising your week-1 opponent.
2. Throw everything you’ve got (players, schemes, trick-plays) into the pre-season games with the idea of forcing your week-1 opponent to prepare for more than you’ll actually use in the game.
I tend to personally vouch for option #2. I just feel like not only are you forcing your opponent to over-think your game plan, but, you also really get to know your own players and give the young guys the much-needed playing time in the preseason.
With that being said, I feel that the Raiders have stuck to option #1.
Let’s put it this way – the coaches are the only ones that see these guys (i.e. J-Russ, Murphy, DHB, Mitchell) on a daily basis and they have a much better feel for how “ready” these guys will be for the Chargers.
If they’re super-confident that they can simply “unleash” DHB onto the Chargers and he’s gonna eat them up, then hell – it’s a great plan. But, I just feel like guys like J-Russ need snaps, snaps, snaps, and more snaps before that opening game.
Just my opinion.
September 2nd, 2009 at 7:56 am
Let me try this again:
McFadden will make you eat those words this year…he was INJURED last year for cripes sake!
And last night I thought about why I seem to dwell on the negative when it comes to the RAIDERS…I consulted Nancy Reagan and she told me that since I am a Taurus, I am prone to being pessimistic.
See, I can’t help it…born that way, lol.
We are going to suck.
September 2nd, 2009 at 7:56 am
efty12 Says:
September 1st, 2009 at 11:20 pm
in 2008 the detroit lions went 4-0 in their practice games,so yes,any stats compiled in practice games are meaningless.
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Most convincing argument about the TRUE importance of pre-season games that I’ve heard yet.
Let’s just wait until the MNF game people. Now if we get blown out in that game, all of the gloom and doom predictions will make perfect sense.
But for now, we just have to wait and see what Cable, Marshall and Tollner have planned. The whole purpose of pre season is to evaluate talent and not tip your hat too much at the same time.
September 2nd, 2009 at 7:56 am
LA:
I usually agree with most of what you have to say, but, I’m not sure I’m buying that Bush is fast.
I think he’s reasonably quick for his size, but, that’s my biggest concern with him being an every-down back. I don’t think he’s fast enough to make those real quick decisions in traffic.
September 2nd, 2009 at 7:57 am
Anybody heard anymore about the rumour that Seattle made a trade enquiry for Fargas before they took Edgerrin James?
Apparantly the Seahawks offered something but the Raiders said no – which, if true, further demonstrated the sort of muppets who inhabit the Alameda front office.
September 2nd, 2009 at 7:57 am
We have the best team in the NFL.
GOOOOO RAIDERS!!!!! Super Bowl fo sho!!!!!
September 2nd, 2009 at 7:58 am
LA to TheBay Says:
September 2nd, 2009 at 7:47 am
Dakota,
I think your boy McFadden will have a very productive season, but I think the real key to the run game is Bush. We all see the potential here.
Bush is a big back, good between the tackles, but very strong off tackle as well. He’s fast as hell, considering that frame of his.
I think Cable knows to win, he’s gotta unleash these two.
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I am with you Bro! If Tenn. can figure out how to use Chris Johnson and LenDale White on the field, why can’t we figure it out? We did it back in the day with Bo Jackson and Marcus Allen when Art Shell could actually coach a team.
September 2nd, 2009 at 8:02 am
Silver-n-Smac Says:
September 2nd, 2009 at 7:56 am
LA:
I usually agree with most of what you have to say, but, I’m not sure I’m buying that Bush is fast.
I think he’s reasonably quick for his size, but, that’s my biggest concern with him being an every-down back. I don’t think he’s fast enough to make those real quick decisions in traffic.
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Silver-n-Smac
I have to diagree bro!!!!!!!!! Did you see that guy out running the Buccs defense last year? Once he gets to rolling he is football speed fast!!! Did you see this guy at Louisville? He is fast for a big guy but he can leave defenders behind. Oh yeah, he can go!
September 2nd, 2009 at 8:04 am
Come on guys, Cable is a genius, Al Davis is the Master, our defense is just pretending to suck ass in the preseason and the preseason isn’t real anyhow, and DHB, Mike Mitchell and Louis Murphy will probably finish 1, 2 and 3, respectively, in the ROY race!
I think we are a 12-4 team, first round bye no doubt!
September 2nd, 2009 at 8:11 am
Dakota Says:
September 2nd, 2009 at 8:04 am
Come on guys, Cable is a genius, Al Davis is the Master, our defense is just pretending to suck ass in the preseason and the preseason isn’t real anyhow, and DHB, Mike Mitchell and Louis Murphy will probably finish 1, 2 and 3, respectively, in the ROY race!
I think we are a 12-4 team, first round bye no doubt!
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Dakota I love the Raiders but lately I have found more enjoyment watching the Raiderettes do interviews than the actual players. 12-4 are you serious or are you hitting the sauce a little bit this morning? Now don’t get me wrong I would run down the street with no cloths on and cause an eclipse on the block if they won.
September 2nd, 2009 at 8:14 am
Once Bush gets past that initial front, hes pretty quick. His strength is his push when he hits the line, but he’s patient and finds the hole. Once he gets into the second level, he turns it on.
He’s certainly not DMC fast, I believe Bush was 4.5-4.6, but I like his motor.
If hes the bruiser and DMC is the finesse guy, sounds to me like a pretty good tandem.
September 2nd, 2009 at 8:16 am
Dakota Says:
September 2nd, 2009 at 8:04 am
Come on guys, Cable is a genius, Al Davis is the Master, our defense is just pretending to suck ass in the preseason and the preseason isn’t real anyhow, and DHB, Mike Mitchell and Louis Murphy will probably finish 1, 2 and 3, respectively, in the ROY race!
I think we are a 12-4 team, first round bye no doubt!
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Cmon, there is a middle ground here. We can be hopeful for reasonable progress from new coaches and young players.
Just because things don’t go smoothly in August doesn’t mean we can’t expect some overall growth and improvement this year. Especially in attitude.
I expect us to build toward a strong second half of the season. Then, Al will recognize the remaining holes on our roster and draft us some fast DBs, a punter and two tweener LB/DEs.
September 2nd, 2009 at 8:17 am
Ooh so after one bad showing in a preseason game of all things, the Raiders season is over? What a load of crap. If you can’t be positive about this team with all the wholesale changes on the team and coaching staff, then it’s just your desire to be negative no matter what. We could go 12-4 and several people here would still find something to be negative about just like they did back in 1999-2002.
September 2nd, 2009 at 8:18 am
Say what you guys want about Fargas, but if this team runs the ball 40 times and passes 20-25 (more likely 35/30 if this pass offense comes along), I think DMC gets 10-15 car, Bush 20, Fargas 5-10 per game.
I like Fargas in this role because he stays fresh and can do what he does best, make one cut and go vertical.
I think Fargas, in limited action, will serve a far more meaningful role than he ever did as a starter.
I sincerely think he’ll be phased out in favor of the younger two.
If the Seattle trade rumors mean anything, sounds like they’re ready to rock with McBush.
September 2nd, 2009 at 8:21 am
CJ Legend 34,
Don’t be so negative! Hater!!!! 12-4 is within reach. Russell will just have to add 10% to his completion %, Fargas will run for 10 TDs this year, Warren and Kelly are unstoppable DTs, our DBs are the best in the NFL….and we blow everyone away with special teams! And we will out scheme any other coaching staff with this group of proven, veteran coaches! And our Division sucks ass….that’s 6 wins guaranteed!
This is the perfect storm of elements for the Raiders to kick some ass!
Hater!
September 2nd, 2009 at 8:22 am
It’s starting to look like A.J. Hawk is going to have to accept a reduced role in the Green Bay Packers’ defense. As long as Nick Barnett’s reconstructed right knee can handle a full workload, the Packers are considering using Barnett and Brandon Chillar as the inside linebackers in the nickel defense. Such a move would cut Hawk’s snaps almost in half, considering the nickel is used every time opposing offenses line up with more than two receivers. What’s more, it means that 3 1/2 years after making him the fifth overall pick in the draft, the Packers might be conceding that Hawk is not an every-down player.
— He was who I wanted when we were drafting that year, so was Adrian Peterson but we went with JRock.
I also wanted Manaluga but Mr Davis felt we needed added backups at the safety position I guess instead of Dline or Lbacker
September 2nd, 2009 at 8:23 am
• Week 1 – Raiders vs. Chargers W
• Week 2 – Raiders @ Chiefs W
• Week 3 – Raiders vs. Broncos W
• Week 4 – Raiders @ Texans W
• Week 5 – Raiders @ Giants L
• Week 6 – Raiders vs. Eagles W
• Week 7 – Raiders vs. Jets W
• Week 8 – Raiders @ Chargers W
• Week 9 – BYE
• Week 10 – Raiders vs. Chiefs W
• Week 11 – Raiders vs. Bengals W
• Week 12 – Raiders @ Cowboys L
• Week 13 – Raiders @ Steelers L
• Week 14 – Raiders vs. Redskins W
• Week 15 – Raiders @ Broncos W
• Week 16 – Raiders @ Browns W
• Week 17 – Raiders vs. Ravens L
12-4 baby!
September 2nd, 2009 at 8:25 am
I expect us to build toward a strong second half of the season. Then, Al will recognize the remaining holes on our roster and draft us some fast DBs, a punter and two tweener LB/DEs.
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you mean kicker? Shane Lechler is locked up.
CHILD PLEASE! – Ocho Cinco
September 2nd, 2009 at 8:25 am
Smac
With regards to the ‘not showing your hand in preseason’ approach, I would agree that’s certainly what they’re doing.
It may be meaningless, but I pointed out yesterday that Mario Henderson wrote DHB via Twitter something to the effect of ‘you’re gonna light ‘em up on MNF.’
Saving him for the opener?
Maybe a reverse early on, a deep shot, screens. This kid needs the ball in his hands as early and as often as possible. Murphy too.
As far as Thursday’s game, I’m most interested to see how Javon is coming along. I was real dissapointed last season, but this guy looks like he’s ready to be a #1 receiver in this league again, based on his work in offseason/camp.
September 2nd, 2009 at 8:26 am
************Russel check out Farve**************
I have to admit I got a little jealous after our Saints blow out watching Minn play TX the other night. Peterson running a 70 yard TD and Harvin making some nice catches for a rookie and of course a few rookie mistakes. BUt the way they are working the guy into the offense is awesome. We just don’t seem to be on that level yet where you are bale to blend the rookie talent into the game. Rookies on our squad needs to be like veterans off the bat or they are hung out to try. I don’t know justan observation.
I am no Super Farve fan but I hope Russel was taking notes on the way Farve has been able to come in and direct plaeyrs around. He is already in their ear! A lineman missed a block and got Farve hammered. Two plays later he made a great block giving Farve time to hit the WR and he ran over to the lineman praising him giving him a pat on the back and you could tell this guy was pumped. He did not miss another asignment all night. That ischrisma for you even if he did skip camp and looks like an old SGT Rock out there.
September 2nd, 2009 at 8:27 am
Dakota: did you beat AZ in a boxing match?
looks like you’re the Kool-Aid pimp this morning.
just the “interim” KAP maybe?
September 2nd, 2009 at 8:32 am
CJ Legend says:
Silver-n-Smac
I have to diagree bro!!!!!!!!! Did you see that guy out running the Buccs defense last year? Once he gets to rolling he is football speed fast!!! Did you see this guy at Louisville? He is fast for a big guy but he can leave defenders behind. Oh yeah, he can go!
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CJ – My concern is that he’s not quick enough in traffic. Of course I saw the TB game and he looked fantastic. But, let’s not use 1 or 2 games as a basis to come to conclusions.
I agree that once he’s in the open field, he’s got another gear. However, do you really feel that he’ll consistently be able to gain 4 yards/carry throughout an entire game, throughout an entire season?
I’m not saying he can’t. I’m just not sure.
And to those of you who can’t wait for Fargas to be shipped out. . . .I’m sorry – I don’t mean to be rude, as we’re all entitled to our opinions, but, you’re frankly “football stupid”.
Ask the Patriots why they consistently kept guys like Teddy Bruschi in their starting lineup.
Do you think he was ever fast, big or strong?
NO.
Then why the hell would a genius like B.B. keep he and others like him in his starting lineup?
Maybe one day you people will realize that Justin Fargas is still capable of being a 1300 yard runner behind a decent offensive line. How many 40 yard runs do you really think D-Mac is going to have? Guess what – that’s not the way a running game is built.
Fargas, still to this day, gains more positive yardage on every play than Bush or McFadden. For every large gainer those guys get, they get stuffed far too often.
September 2nd, 2009 at 8:33 am
I think it’s pretty obvious Childress, Favre and the Viking organization intended to bring Brett in all along, but kept him out of training camp intentionally to keep him fresh.
Kind of a foolish move, unless you’re not at all looking beyond this season (as that’s all Favre has got left, IMO) since it appears they’re shopping Tarvaris Jackson.
But they feel they were one piece away from SB, which could very well be accurate.
More power to them for building a solid team, although I question the organization’s loyalty, certainly not it’s shrewdness.
September 2nd, 2009 at 8:34 am
hmmmm fanatsy can consume you guys that say they’ve no time I hear that!!! LOL just went in to check on waiver moves and lineups and took me 45 mins!!!!
My boss would be proud!!!!!!!!!1
LOL
September 2nd, 2009 at 8:34 am
CJ: if Oakland had the O-Line and D-Line Minny has we’d go 16-0 this year …
unfortunately Al Davis likes to build the team backwards, from the outside in.
Guys like Morrison, Howard & Brown might have thier contracts expire before we ever find our how good they can be with a solid D-Line in front of them.
Russell will have a near impossible task of putting up Pro Bowl numbers in his 3rd year as a pro with Satele, Carlisle and Green starting on the right side of the O-Line too.
September 2nd, 2009 at 8:35 am
Dakota Says:
September 2nd, 2009 at 8:21 am
CJ Legend 34,
Don’t be so negative! Hater!!!! 12-4 is within reach. Russell will just have to add 10% to his completion %, Fargas will run for 10 TDs this year, Warren and Kelly are unstoppable DTs, our DBs are the best in the NFL….and we blow everyone away with special teams! And we will out scheme any other coaching staff with this group of proven, veteran coaches! And our Division sucks ass….that’s 6 wins guaranteed!
This is the perfect storm of elements for the Raiders to kick some ass!
Hater!
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Hey man, I am no hater but I am realistic. You ahve to be joking??? If Oakland was not your team would you really think they would go 12-4? Dakot, there would be no one happier than me if they went 12-4 but I can’t set myself up for that type of heart ache. You know it is like going out with a hot chick that takes it all off. You are right on top of her motor boating, right when you feel the heat and you are about to slip it in she says, NO!!! You may keep going out with fantasy girl thinking tonight is the night but after a while you say look I can’t keep getting it up like this if there is no action. That has been my last 5 years with the Raiders.
September 2nd, 2009 at 8:39 am
CJ Legend 34,
Sounds like you need counseling to deal with those past “encounters”.
Is that okay mod?
September 2nd, 2009 at 8:40 am
But they feel they were one piece away from SB, which could very well be accurate.
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Hhhmmmmm, can you say Hershel Walker?
September 2nd, 2009 at 8:40 am
Smac: I like Fargas too, but if he starts 16 games ahead of McFadden & Bush we will lose football games.
What a waste of talent, money, draft picks and time that would be.
Fortunately Fargas is injury prone and the other 2 younger and more talented backs might get thier shot to make plays and score points by default.
Go look at games & stats where McFadden and Bush got at least 15 carries last year. they tore it up!
September 2nd, 2009 at 8:42 am
# Dakota Says:
September 2nd, 2009 at 8:23 am
• Week 1 – Raiders vs. Chargers W
• Week 2 – Raiders @ Chiefs W
• Week 3 – Raiders vs. Broncos W
• Week 4 – Raiders @ Texans W
• Week 5 – Raiders @ Giants L
• Week 6 – Raiders vs. Eagles W
• Week 7 – Raiders vs. Jets W
• Week 8 – Raiders @ Chargers W
• Week 9 – BYE
• Week 10 – Raiders vs. Chiefs W
• Week 11 – Raiders vs. Bengals W
• Week 12 – Raiders @ Cowboys L
• Week 13 – Raiders @ Steelers L
• Week 14 – Raiders vs. Redskins W
• Week 15 – Raiders @ Broncos W
• Week 16 – Raiders @ Browns W
• Week 17 – Raiders vs. Ravens L
12-4 baby!
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Dakota,
As I’ve stopped taking anything you post to have much validity or thought behind it, I’ll simply view your posts as good comic relief from hereon.
In response to your smart-ass “prediction”, I’ll attempt to share 2 possible scenarios for the season:
Scenario #1
• Week 1 – Raiders vs. Chargers L
• Week 2 – Raiders @ Chiefs W
• Week 3 – Raiders vs. Broncos W
• Week 4 – Raiders @ Texans W
• Week 5 – Raiders @ Giants L
• Week 6 – Raiders vs. Eagles L
• Week 7 – Raiders vs. Jets W
• Week 8 – Raiders @ Chargers L
• Week 9 – BYE
• Week 10 – Raiders vs. Chiefs W
• Week 11 – Raiders vs. Bengals W
• Week 12 – Raiders @ Cowboys L
• Week 13 – Raiders @ Steelers L
• Week 14 – Raiders vs. Redskins L
• Week 15 – Raiders @ Broncos L
• Week 16 – Raiders @ Browns W
• Week 17 – Raiders vs. Ravens L
End result: 7-9
Scnario #2 (hoping for this one)
• Week 1 – Raiders vs. Chargers W
• Week 2 – Raiders @ Chiefs W
• Week 3 – Raiders vs. Broncos W
• Week 4 – Raiders @ Texans W
• Week 5 – Raiders @ Giants L
• Week 6 – Raiders vs. Eagles L
• Week 7 – Raiders vs. Jets W
• Week 8 – Raiders @ Chargers L
• Week 9 – BYE
• Week 10 – Raiders vs. Chiefs W
• Week 11 – Raiders vs. Bengals W
• Week 12 – Raiders @ Cowboys L
• Week 13 – Raiders @ Steelers L
• Week 14 – Raiders vs. Redskins W
• Week 15 – Raiders @ Broncos L
• Week 16 – Raiders @ Browns W
• Week 17 – Raiders vs. Ravens L
End result: 9-7
September 2nd, 2009 at 8:42 am
I expect big things our of J. Walker, Justin Fargas and Mop handle Green this year. All of them have been doubted so much, and they are all such proud veterans that I think each of them will play so well that they will be in the running for the pro-bowl and they will add the needed spark that this team needs to get over the hump and win the division. Icing on the cake baby!
September 2nd, 2009 at 8:43 am
Smac
Agree with you about Fargas, but there’s just no room in the backfield for him.
Don’t get me wrong, I like Fargas a great deal. I just think you have to trade Fargas or Bush and get something of value, or find a way to make them all work as a unit.
Dakota,
I’m not naive. I know they couldn’t wrap up or even line up. They get overpowered at the line of scrimmage and have pores all over the place, especially up front.
My point is the play calling, the scheme is vanilla.
We’ll see more from the whole team come 9/14.
My concern is identical to yours, that these athletes are vanilla.
September 2nd, 2009 at 8:44 am
Silver-n-Smac Says:
September 2nd, 2009 at 8:32 am
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I don’t think Fargas is a 1000 yard rusher. He runs to strong and to high and will not make it through the season. But if you pick spots in games he has a good feel for the game. I just think that BUSH and DMAC are the future. We have to get hose guys in rythm. They have the ability to catch out the backfield and take it to the house. Not all the time but I will even take some of the time. We need to get our backs in rythm. Bring Fargas in when the defense gets tired he runs hard and may not get as beat up and make the whole season. Look how the Saints used Duce in his glory years.
September 2nd, 2009 at 8:46 am
Dakota Says:
September 2nd, 2009 at 8:39 am
CJ Legend 34,
Sounds like you need counseling to deal with those past “encounters”.
Is that okay mod?
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Yeah Dakota, she was hot and she was older and she lead me on got a number of dinners and drinks out of me and left me cold. But than I got hip to the game and got married. Now I dont expect anything, I showed her!LOL!!!
September 2nd, 2009 at 8:49 am
Nobody expects anything from Green other than poor pass blocking and penalties.
I expect what Fargas has always brought (you can fill in the blanks).
You’re a funny guy, but the sarcasm falls on def ears this morning, or at least for me.
I hope Walker makes us all eat our words. I’m not in here proclaiming a 1,000 or 1,300 yard season.
I’d be happy if he gave us 30 catches, a few of them being pretty clutch, which I think he’s certainly capable of.
September 2nd, 2009 at 8:49 am
the Broncos cut 7th Round pick C Blake Schlueter yesterday. They already have veteran Pro Bowler Casey Wiegmann and Kory Lichtensteiger (4th Round in last year’s draft) to back him up.
Blake was in for an Oakland visit prior to the draft and he’s said to be a perfect fit in the zbs. I was hoping we’d pick him up late. Maybe instead of Sulak? haha.
your thoughts nation?
September 2nd, 2009 at 8:51 am
RaiderRockstar:
How exactly is Fargus more injury-prone than Bush or D-Mac???
Bush sat on the bench for a year because of an injury and given how little he played last year, how can we come to any conclusions about his durability?
D-Mac’s entire season was pretty much blown because of an injury.
I’m not buying that argument. I love those 2 guys and I don’t even have a problem if they decide to make Fargas #3.
But, all the idiots that constantly rip on this guy as though he has something to do with our 24-72 record the past 6 years. . . .just simply astounding man.
Fargas is still a 1000 yard runner in this league with any semblance of decent blocking. It’s too bad so many Raider fans are too stupid to realize it.
Give Fargas to the Steelers and his career would flourish.
There’s an organization who cherishes blue-collar, hard-nosed guys with heart, and their fans embrace players like that.
I guess the Patriots snagged Fred Taylor because they felt he had blazing speed, youth & durability?
Today’s Raider fan seems consumed with “talent on paper”.
What a joke.
September 2nd, 2009 at 8:51 am
I love Cable’s plan to lul teams into a lead by using Fargas the first three or four series and then hit them in the mouth with McFadden and Bush late in the game…should catch many teams sleeping in the second half and we will pull out many victories because of his genius coaching!
And putting Fargas into all of the red-zone packages really opens up the field for all the WRs…do you guys see how many defenders flock at Fargas when he touches the ball in the red-zone? The dude has to be accounted for and that should really make things easier for Russell and the WRs…even Miller. I think we score TDs on 80% of our red-zone trips in 2009. Take it to the bank! Thanks to Fargas! It may not show up in the stats as a TD, but we will all know why we score all those TDs this year.
September 2nd, 2009 at 8:52 am
1 bad preseason showing and people are ready to jump ship. Look this what 99% of the people here wanted a rebuilt, young raider team. Be careful of what you wish for. Like with any young team they have to grow and learn and after giving that process some time they might not be the player that you thought they would be. There are very few if any guarantee’s in the draft. We have drafted O and D linemen basically every year and for many reasons things just have not worked out. However, this year I feel more confident that the O and D lines will perform better.
September 2nd, 2009 at 8:56 am
Good morning to my dear friends in here. How is everyone doing this morning?
September 2nd, 2009 at 8:58 am
I love those 2 guys and I don’t even have a problem if they decide to make Fargas #3.
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Smac: so it’s settled then!
September 2nd, 2009 at 8:59 am
What’s up, Norco.
September 2nd, 2009 at 9:02 am
Silver-n-Smac
Stop it dude, just stop it with the Fargas BS!!!!
He sucks OK!!!! I am sorry, he is just not consistant and he has had every shot in the world. Blame it on the line OK! Now he sucks with outr line in Oakland!!!
Look at my title Legend 34. I am still looking for the next Bo Jackson in silver and black it is my dream and Fargas aint it!!!! DMAC and Bush are closer. That is why I say No to Fargas full time. It is personal OK?
September 2nd, 2009 at 9:02 am
We have drafted O and D linemen basically every year and for many reasons things just have not worked out. However, this year I feel more confident that the O and D lines will perform better.
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I sure hope you’re right BAG … Cable’s job depends on it!
September 2nd, 2009 at 9:03 am
you are very “insightful” 2day Dakota =)
September 2nd, 2009 at 9:03 am
BAG,
I totally agree. Our D-line should be vastly improved. Kelly and Warren are already unstoppable, and Ellis is a top tier LDE. And we have what should have been the defensive rookie of the year last year, in Trevor Scott playing RDE. I see huge improvements against the run and we might vastly improve our sack total with Scott at RDE instead of Richardson.
And the o-line, hell yeah! Henderson has his first season over with and should improve greatly, Gallery is solid, Satele, despite a poor 2008 season, should rebound nicely in this zone blocking scheme, Cooper is just hitting his stride and Green’s personal problems might actually make him a better RT. I think he has had time to think about his actions and he might play more disciplined football in 2009 because of it…and Barnes when he comes back is just a monster if you take away the 2008 season, and put him at RT when we pass and Green ant RT when we run, we will dominate!
September 2nd, 2009 at 9:05 am
Dakota what ever “Jesus Juice” you are on this morning I want in on it. I can not imagine being that positive that reality escapes you. We have a # of plan b players starting on defense and a young offense. I am happy about developing the team with youth but the defense is scary to watch! I have never seen more pro defenders arm tackle and take bad angles in my entire football playing and watching life outside of the Lions.
September 2nd, 2009 at 9:06 am
Justin Fargas’ biggest accomplishments:
-Owner of 3rd Eye Entertainment.
-Completed work on his solo rap CD title “Young Hugg in Black and White” which was released around Christmas 2006.
-Has acted in 2 feature length films, Hood of Horror (2006) and The Caper (2007)
-He is the son of Starsky and Hutch actor Antonio Fargas, who played Huggy Bear.
-His half-brother is film producer Matthew Chausse.
September 2nd, 2009 at 9:08 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
September 2nd, 2009 at 9:06 am
Justin Fargas’ biggest accomplishments:
-Owner of 3rd Eye Entertainment.
-Completed work on his solo rap CD title “Young Hugg in Black and White” which was released around Christmas 2006.
-Has acted in 2 feature length films, Hood of Horror (2006) and The Caper (2007)
-He is the son of Starsky and Hutch actor Antonio Fargas, who played Huggy Bear.
-His half-brother is film producer Matthew Chausse.
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Nuff said!!! Trade his @$$ for a day 2 draft pick!
September 2nd, 2009 at 9:08 am
O-Line improvements: Henderson starts 16 games, Satele for Grove, Barnes & Pears for depth at tackle.
D-Line improvements: Scott starts 16 games, Ellis for Burgess, Shaughnessy for Edwards, Boschetti (or Bryant) for Wakefield
12-4 Dakota, booyah!
September 2nd, 2009 at 9:09 am
I think Cable knows if he wants to win, he’ll use his most productive players early on.
McFadden will get touches early and often.
My question is, we all know Fargas’ history in the red zone (Bush will take that role, I’d imagine), why don’t we see waaaaay more of Z. Miller down there? Too busy blocking? Enter Brandon Myers.
September 2nd, 2009 at 9:10 am
You okay Dakota…?
September 2nd, 2009 at 9:10 am
lmao
September 2nd, 2009 at 9:11 am
Look, we all have been saying this team needs stability at the HC position as well as the scheme etc. Well instead of canning Cable and washing everything down the drain we’re building on what was established last year as far as the ZBS and other aspects of the offense. However, on defense we are starting over with new coaches, schemes etc. Like most here wanted, including myself. Either you were happy with Rob Ryan or you wanted a new situation on defense. Well, if you wanted a new situation then you must allow this young team to learn it. Ryan is gone and Marshall is here now. Allow him to implement his defense and for the players to learn it before just bashing the defense. Remember, learning takes some time. Especially for young players.
September 2nd, 2009 at 9:11 am
booyah
booyah
booyah
September 2nd, 2009 at 9:11 am
Dakota, bumaye!
September 2nd, 2009 at 9:13 am
The one thing that I do like about Fargas is that he hits the hole quickly. Then he goes down quickly as well but at least he hits the hole fast…
September 2nd, 2009 at 9:14 am
NMI:
hits the hole quickly?
goes down quickly?
you’re such a pervert!
September 2nd, 2009 at 9:16 am
Fukin A…Marshall had like the #1 or #2 defense in the NFL in 1997 with the 49ers…I am sure he will come close to that with this much more talented and young group of defenders than the 49ers had back then.
Just wait till 2010 when these players really gel, #1 defense no doubt about it.
September 2nd, 2009 at 9:16 am
# RaiderRockstar Says:
September 2nd, 2009 at 8:58 am
I love those 2 guys and I don’t even have a problem if they decide to make Fargas #3.
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Smac: so it’s settled then!
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Look –
I don’t give a rat’s ass who starts, and who’s #3 if we win games. That’s the bottom line. And frankly, I think all 3 of our backs (and even maybe Rankin) are starting-caliber NFL backs.
My main point is you don’t get rid of a guy like Fargas. Getting rid of a player who epitomizes heart, tough play and care for his teamates, sends a really bad message to the rest of the team.
People – quit hating on Fargas (not you Rockstar, but, all those who do).
People who rip on Fargas should be ashamed of themselves.
Be honest Dakota – if you were a Patriots fan, I bet you would have been whining about Teddy Bruschi being your starting middle linebacker during all those Superbowl years. Admit it. Some of you people are just enamored with Paper Talent.
September 2nd, 2009 at 9:17 am
So he has time to make horrible albums but still can’t catch wow yeah fargas is hardcore. Cj34 you spelled it out perfectly I want a superstar at rb!
September 2nd, 2009 at 9:17 am
IF Scott starts 16 games we are in trouble. He needs to be a pass rush spec. He is just to light. Matt S. will get a long look thursday.
September 2nd, 2009 at 9:19 am
Narco!!!!
GOOD brother how are you???
September 2nd, 2009 at 9:20 am
Talent with attitude great
Attitude without talent waste.
Start the young backs, Fargas needs to be a benchwarmer.
September 2nd, 2009 at 9:24 am
# NoMoreFargas Says:
September 2nd, 2009 at 9:17 am
So he has time to make horrible albums but still can’t catch wow yeah fargas is hardcore. Cj34 you spelled it out perfectly I want a superstar at rb!
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Some of you make me laugh man.
You’re the same people who had a hard-on for guys like Kerry Collins before he actually started playing and proved to do nothing for us. You’re the same people that couldn’t wait to get rid of a guy like Rich Gannon.
September 2nd, 2009 at 9:25 am
Fargas is not consistent, but the guy’s a gamer. You want these guys being discipline right?
More dedicated? Stronger work ethic?
That’s Fargas. You wanna talk about motor? Hes a V12, but in a Malibu frame.
I know why you all want him ran out of town, but he takes a lot of unwarranted criticism.
I think you will all get what you want, less carries from Fargas, and eventually none, although I think the guy is a Raider.
Go ahead and grill me like tri-tip, Nation.
September 2nd, 2009 at 9:25 am
# hellsbells Says:
September 2nd, 2009 at 9:20 am
Talent with attitude great
Attitude without talent waste.
Start the young backs, Fargas needs to be a benchwarmer.
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Tell me how he gained over a 1000 yards in a half-season of football just 2 years ago, oh wise one.
That doesn’t take talent, huh?
You got short-term memory loss?
September 2nd, 2009 at 9:26 am
Tell me how old Marcus Allen, Jerome Bettis, Roger Craig, etc., etc. were before they stopped being productive.
September 2nd, 2009 at 9:28 am
Be honest Dakota – if you were a Patriots fan, I bet you would have been whining about Teddy Bruschi being your starting middle linebacker during all those Superbowl years. Admit it. Some of you people are just enamored with Paper Talent.
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What? On paper and on the field this Raiders’ team will dominate 2009!
September 2nd, 2009 at 9:28 am
Yes
if hes so great why did we draft his replacements yoda, guys 29 and not a threat to score. Maybe we should bring back Tim Brown too.
September 2nd, 2009 at 9:28 am
Okay this is just for laughs and I am happy with our drfat picks for the most part. DHB will be fine and Mcfadden is and will be great…
But – last year I posted here that I wanted to trade down and get Ryan Clady (lt) at 12 or 13. This year I wanted to trade down with Dallas and try to work it so we could get Mack at center , Brace at nose tackle and Brinkley at mlb and move kirk outside. Imagine how that would have have looked today. Henderson would have shifted over to rt and many of our issues would be fixed. You build the car from the wheels up. You don’t start with hood ornaments..
But does anyone listem to me? NO! Damit. That’s why that fu*kin infield is still there!
September 2nd, 2009 at 9:29 am
LA:
I’ll ask again. . . .how did Fargus gain over a 1000 yards in a half-season of football?
The dude was on pace for an 1800-2000 yard season.
I know you’re not hating on him, but, explain the Malibu frame.
Have D-Mac & Bush shown you some sort of durability that I haven’t seen?
September 2nd, 2009 at 9:30 am
Have a good day dudes…
September 2nd, 2009 at 9:30 am
IF Scott starts 16 games we are in trouble. He needs to be a pass rush spec. He is just to light. Matt S. will get a long look thursday.
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Agreed, but #1 he’s coming off an injury (still might not be 100 percent) #2 he’ll be going against the Seaturds 2nd & 3rd string players. difficult to start him Week 1 no matter how he performs tomorrow night.
Jay Richardson will start against the dolts if Trevor Scott is just a situational guy (like Chris Clemons in 2007)
September 2nd, 2009 at 9:32 am
All those guys were produtive from day one. Hope you are not trying to put Fargas in that class. I dont hate the guy it is just time to move on.
September 2nd, 2009 at 9:33 am
Dakota,
Why all the negativity? You could at least wait until after the first regular season game. I’m sure you’re one of the let’s rebuild instead of reload people so you’re going to have to wait until the core of the team matures in terms of the pro game. We’re going through and will continue to go through growing pains with this young team. And no Marshall might not be the second coming of Buddy Ryan, but he couldn’t be any worse than Rob Ryan.
September 2nd, 2009 at 9:35 am
# BAG Says:
September 2nd, 2009 at 9:33 am
Dakota,
Why all the negativity? You could at least wait until after the first regular season game. I’m sure you’re one of the let’s rebuild instead of reload people so you’re going to have to wait until the core of the team matures in terms of the pro game. We’re going through and will continue to go through growing pains with this young team. And no Marshall might not be the second coming of Buddy Ryan, but he couldn’t be any worse than Rob Ryan.
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No Bag:
Stop making sense.
Dakota doesn’t understand sense.
September 2nd, 2009 at 9:35 am
I think we can win games with this defense.
Before you spit up your coffee and start laughing histarically, look at last season, how close we were in the Bills, Chargers, Panthers (arguably), Dolphins, and KC games. We lost them by an average of 6.2 points.
With better offensive production, which we will have, a good ground game, which we already have, and better play calling, which I hope we’ll have, our D will be spending less time on the field.
If we put up an extra TD per game, totally within reason, we win at least 2 more contests, even with a rough schedule.
Any of you expecting 9-7, 10-6 and so on will probably be pretty dissappointed.
Any of you expecting growth, progress, and the emergence of leadership will probably get exactly that.
Rome was not built in a day, and neither will the Raiders.
September 2nd, 2009 at 9:36 am
i’m w/ you silver-n-smac, 7-9 is what i’m hoping for this yr. Perhaps we will get better defensive personnel in next year’s draft & free agency. A good DT + LB + SS/FS is what we need to get over .500.
Brandon Marshall for a 2nd + 3rd round?
September 2nd, 2009 at 9:38 am
BSJ????????
September 2nd, 2009 at 9:39 am
# dt_raiders Says:
September 2nd, 2009 at 9:36 am
i’m w/ you silver-n-smac, 7-9 is what i’m hoping for this yr. Perhaps we will get better defensive personnel in next year’s draft & free agency. A good DT + LB + SS/FS is what we need to get over .500.
Brandon Marshall for a 2nd + 3rd round?
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Dang –
Marshall on one side & Schilens on the other? With DHB & Murphy as 3 & 4? (and hell, maybe even a reborn J. Walker?)
That would be a hell of a receiving corps.
Schilens & Marshall would be a really formidable starting duo. Size, speed, power.
Nice! Shoot, I’d give up a 2nd round pick today for Marshall. He’s still got 10 years left in him.
That would be a steal in my opinion, so long as his attitude wasn’t messed up.
September 2nd, 2009 at 9:41 am
# BAG Says:
September 2nd, 2009 at 9:33 am
Dakota,
Why all the negativity?
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Several reasons: John McCain, Al Davis, Lou Piniella, Charlie Weiss, …shall I continue? …Alfonso Soriano, Tom Cable, Sarah Palin, Sonia Sotomayor…
September 2nd, 2009 at 9:41 am
ANYONE KNOW THE NAME OF THE DONKEY’S qb?
ENGLEWOOD – Broncos coach Josh McDaniels said he is hopeful quarterbacks Kyle Orton (finger) and Chris Simms (ankle) will be available next week, when the Broncos start the regular season, but didn’t have a definite answer on either player.
Rookie Tom Brandstater will start Thursday’s preseason game and McDaniels said Ingle Martin could play if needed. After that, McDaniels didn’t want to put a specific timetable on Orton’s return, saying he didn’t know if he would play Sept. 13 at Cincinnati.
“The timetable for that – I would be totally guessing and probably wrong if I started guessing about that stuff right now,” McDaniels said.
September 2nd, 2009 at 9:42 am
Smac,
With the Malibu reference:
I mean that hes got a V12 motor on him.
Hes certainly not Sproles, but he’s not built like a Mack truck (Bush) or a Corvette (DMC).
Hes a guy who’n not that physically imposing, but play like it. Runs with no regard for human life. He’s not flashy, he’s not a bruiser, hes steady.
I think I said earlier he’s not consistent, what I should have said is he’s not always available due tpo injury, but he’s a real steady guy.
It’s just a crowded backfield, and a tough call how to split those carries. Fargas is a guy who, in a feature roll, needs 20-25 carriewrs to really get rolling.
I think we see more like 5 to 10 carries, 20 to 45/50 yards or so, depending on the opponent, situation, and health of McBush.
He’s not at his best in this role, but I think will ultimately serve to be more productive and valuable to the team.
September 2nd, 2009 at 9:43 am
Nice! Shoot, I’d give up a 2nd round pick today for Marshall. He’s still got 10 years left in him.
That would be a steal in my opinion, so long as his attitude wasn’t messed up.
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Many teams passed on B MArshall, his knick name coming out of college was “baby TO”
Isn’t this the reason Al passed on Crabtree?
September 2nd, 2009 at 9:46 am
…Terdell Sands, Steve Bartman, Jerry Faust, Randy Hanson…
September 2nd, 2009 at 9:47 am
Profound thought of the day…I bet Russell respects Ice cube more than Cable,Hackett,Tollner and Garcia combined. I think Cube was telling Jamarcus he better step it up, and sadly enough that will probaly motivate him more than any of the aforementioned guys including himself! Pathetic, but if it works…
September 2nd, 2009 at 9:49 am
O.K. I give up.
You guys win.
You’ve completely defeated my spirit.
Justin Fargas sucks and should be shipped out of town immediately.
There.
You happy?
September 2nd, 2009 at 9:49 am
…Justin Fargas, Cornell Green, #$%^&* Fukodome, Andrew Bynum, Kerry Wood…
September 2nd, 2009 at 9:50 am
# HairyBush Says:
September 2nd, 2009 at 9:47 am
Profound thought of the day…I bet Russell respects Ice cube more than Cable,Hackett,Tollner and Garcia combined. I think Cube was telling Jamarcus he better step it up, and sadly enough that will probaly motivate him more than any of the aforementioned guys including himself! Pathetic, but if it works…
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Hairy, (won’t even ask you about your tag LOL)
Are you suggesting we should promote ICE Cube as QB coach?
September 2nd, 2009 at 9:51 am
Great article on Russell in the SF Chronicle today.
September 2nd, 2009 at 9:52 am
# RaiderTW Says:
September 2nd, 2009 at 9:43 am
Nice! Shoot, I’d give up a 2nd round pick today for Marshall. He’s still got 10 years left in him.
That would be a steal in my opinion, so long as his attitude wasn’t messed up.
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Many teams passed on B MArshall, his knick name coming out of college was “baby TO”
Isn’t this the reason Al passed on Crabtree?
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Absolutely true, but, aren’t wide receivers, in general, a bit on the baby-side?
September 2nd, 2009 at 9:54 am
Smac,
Don’t let anyone in here break your spirits. None of us coach the Raiders or make any of these decisions.
If you think Fargas is the business, go ahead and think it. People who DO make these decisions seem to agree with you, so we’ll see how it all works out.
September 2nd, 2009 at 9:55 am
All joking aside….why am I so negative?
The real question should be why are all of you so positive? Our Defense is a joke and you guys actually believe we can win this division….why? Because our offense is so great? Because SD has Norv? Give me a break.
Come on guys, pull your heads out…I hate having to come in here after the first couple of weeks and watch you guys disintegrate as reality sets in…really makes me sad.
I am being positive when I hope we at least get to 6-10 and that Russell gets a little better this year…and maybe that Al wakes up and decides to hire a real NFL HC. That is about the best we can hope for right now.
Hope I am wrong, but I doubt it. We need help at RT, RG, maybe C, MLB, RDE, DT, FS, etc etc etc…until Al decides to address the trenches (in a valid way, not by signing Barnes and drafting weakling DEs) we are not going to improve very much…sorry.
September 2nd, 2009 at 9:56 am
Hairybush, you’re just another ignorant Raider fan when it comes to the drive and desire of Russell as well as the hard work the kid has put in. You don’t improve the way this kid has in 6 months if you don’t want to work and be great. Ice Cube was never around in QB school back in Feb and March.
Geeez! can Raider fans get any dumber?
September 2nd, 2009 at 9:57 am
HEEllllllllllll no to B. Marshall I wouldnt trade a 5th rounder for this cancer!!!!!!!!!!!!
September 2nd, 2009 at 9:59 am
“Geeez! can Raider fans get any dumber?”
TJ, please don’t ask – you may not like the answer.
I agree with you about Russell, he’s got all the tools, and all the physical attributes to succeed at his position. As far as the ‘intangibles’? Who knows.
When it translates to production, and ultimately, wins, we’ll all be able to see the work he’s put in.
September 2nd, 2009 at 9:59 am
Fargas injury history-
college: broken leg
2003: knee
2007: knee
2008: groin, wrist, knee
2009: hamstring (right now)
McFadden-
2008: turf toe (both feet), shoulder
Bush-
college: broken leg
September 2nd, 2009 at 10:00 am
Warren and Kelly are no studs, and they’re grossly overpaid, but I think the bigger problem with the Run D are Scott, the SLB and MLB spots.
Most of the big runs are going off tackle. Where are the LBs and DEs on these plays? Guys are 5 yards clear of any defenders when they get past the line. Also, we get ZERO pass rush with the front 4. ZERO.
The Raiders should sign 285-pound free agent veteran DE Vonnie Holliday and swing a deal for AJ Hawk. Bring in Scott as a situational pass rusher and rotate Richardson and Shaughnessy into the rotation to spell the older Ellis and Holliday.
September 2nd, 2009 at 10:03 am
Just intern baby,
Is Deangelo williams untouchable?????
September 2nd, 2009 at 10:03 am
Fact or Fiction on ESPN. Mark Schlereth says Garcia will start in place of Russel, at some point, this season,… your thoughts Nation?…
September 2nd, 2009 at 10:04 am
I wouldnt trade a 5th rounder for this cancer
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me neither OAKlifer.
We’ve got Walker, Higgins, Schilens, Heyward-Bey & Murphy …
some Raider fans are even going nuts for the undrafted Nick Miller!
I don’t see where BMarsh fits in.
We could have traded for Chad Johnson, Anquan Boldin or Braylon Edwards this offseason. Could have grabbed Marvin Harrison, Torry Holt, Jerry Porter, Matt Jones, TJ Housh in FA but we didn’t …
September 2nd, 2009 at 10:04 am
This is certainly my girl rubbing off on me, but for those of you secure enough with your manhood, indulge me a bit.
Russell is a Leo, we actually have the same birthday. He tends to be into luxurious, lavish things and a similar lifestyle. Flashy when he wants to be, a grinder when he needs to be.
He’s the quiet, reluctant leader, but leads by example. Can be lazy, procrastinate, and think he can put it all together last minute.
We have the same pitfalls. What he needs to learn is to overcome his default attitude and notion he can turn it on whenever, and put in real work in the film room.
Sigh, now say what you will about my astrology explaination and how I’m a h*mo.
September 2nd, 2009 at 10:04 am
silver-n-smac, perhaps we can bring him in as a “consultant” lol
September 2nd, 2009 at 10:06 am
# Dakota Says:
September 2nd, 2009 at 9:55 am
All joking aside….why am I so negative?
The real question should be why are all of you so positive? Our Defense is a joke and you guys actually believe we can win this division….why? Because our offense is so great? Because SD has Norv? Give me a break.
Come on guys, pull your heads out…I hate having to come in here after the first couple of weeks and watch you guys disintegrate as reality sets in…really makes me sad.
I am being positive when I hope we at least get to 6-10 and that Russell gets a little better this year…and maybe that Al wakes up and decides to hire a real NFL HC. That is about the best we can hope for right now.
Hope I am wrong, but I doubt it. We need help at RT, RG, maybe C, MLB, RDE, DT, FS, etc etc etc…until Al decides to address the trenches (in a valid way, not by signing Barnes and drafting weakling DEs) we are not going to improve very much…sorry.
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Dakota,
You wanna know why I’m so positive?
Because I love football and the Oakland Raider are my team. And it’s only August, and we haven’t played a down yet, and none of us know how the season is really gonna turn out.
That’s the fun of it all. As Jim Mora said, “you just don’t know”.
And that’s the beauty of it all. The way us schmucks analyze every player and scheme may seem relevant and may have some real merit.
But, the bottom line is that none of us know how it’ll really play out. None of us know how DHB will play.
None of us know if Tommy Kelly will wake up and decide to tap into his potential.
None of us know if J-Russ will continue to develop or not.
None of us know if Namdi will make that key interception that eluded us last year, late in a ball game, to propel us to a victory instead of a loss.
None of us know if Trevor Scott, after getting manhandled for much of a game, will free himself up & sack the QB for a huge loss in crunch time. Maybe that sack ends up getting us to 8-8 instead of 7-9 and the season ends in some hope and respectability.
That’s why we watch.
That’s why we’re positive.
And I’d rather be positive until I have some actual evidence to be negative about 3/4 through a season.
September 2nd, 2009 at 10:06 am
Smac
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Well said.
September 2nd, 2009 at 10:07 am
if the Raiders wanted a MLB they should have signed Bart Scott in FA, gave Ricky Brown a vet minimum deal to be a depth guy/ST player and moved Kirk Morrison to SLB.
drafted Ron Brace in Round 2 and a strong safety (possibly even Mike Mitchell) in Round 5 or 6 …
September 2nd, 2009 at 10:07 am
priesttj-I’m far from dumb,ever hear of sarcasm?
September 2nd, 2009 at 10:08 am
Speaking of hairy bush,
You guys ever notice that Michael Bush is like 24 years old, but has a receding hairline to rival Kool Kell’s?
September 2nd, 2009 at 10:09 am
Chris in NY, honestly speaking I think we have some young guy’s that can play in Dez Bryant and Matt S as well Gunhiem and Richardson. They really really need to grow up. But Kirk T Howard and Rickey Brown need to become better leaders and examples. They have been here long enough to deliver. We have a lot of young talent that needs to step to the forefront this year.
Everybody focus’s on Russell but Chaz has stepped up and so has ZMiller now these LB’s need to bring this year or next year we should draft very heavy at that position. It’s their time to shine……Just do it!!
September 2nd, 2009 at 10:09 am
Did anyone see BSPN when Wingo showed the Farve cut block & called Mark Schlereth a cheap shot artist? Funny stuff.
September 2nd, 2009 at 10:11 am
LA:
That’s what it’s all about after all, ain’t it?
I mean, do any of us really know what’s gonna happen?
No.
I say Justin Fargas is the man. The year may prove to me that he’s done.
You say Justin Fargas should see a lot of bench time. The year may prove that our running game loses a lot of toughness.
That’s the great thing about being there or watching on TV on Sundays.
I bet not a whole lot of people expected the Rams to go from 4-12 to 12-4 & the Superbowl.
That’s why we watch the games!
September 2nd, 2009 at 10:13 am
Peter King, who I do respect certainly doesnt respect the Raiders
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/football/nfl/09/01/main/index.html?eref=sihpT1
San Diego Chargers 11-5
Kansas City Chiefs 8-8
Denver Broncos 5-11
Oakland Raiders 4-12
** Teams equal to or WORSE than Oakland:
Cleveland Browns 2-14
Detroit Lions 3-13
Tampa Bay Buccaneers 4-12
Then again, after that performance against the Saints, maybe I should start to embrace reality and hope we don’t try and replicate the 08-09 Lions.
September 2nd, 2009 at 10:14 am
la to thebay-the receding hairline makes him more aerodynamic,you wait and see there will be more games similar to the Tampa game.
September 2nd, 2009 at 10:15 am
With regards to our roster and possible FA signings/trades.
Don’t bet on anything significant. Maybe we pick up an OL/DL or two, but I doubt we do much else.
I think the Raiders are pretty much set on what they have on the field right now.
When they make investments, they typically ride them ’til the wheels fall of, with some exceptions (Fabian Washington, Napoleon Harris, etc.).
September 2nd, 2009 at 10:18 am
Smac,
I agree.
It’s a tough call, because I like Fargas. Again, it’s a crowded backfield and maybe they start out with equal touches, and whoever stands out gets more? My guess is Cable already has this figured out.
September 2nd, 2009 at 10:19 am
Peter King is a decent reporter who has a lot of good sources, but he doesn’t know his azz from his elbow when it comes to analysis. I couldn’t care less about his predictions.
September 2nd, 2009 at 10:21 am
Silver-n-smac,
I wish I could look at it that way….I just can’t. Like I said, I am a Taurus…pessimistic by nature.
Don’t worry, I will be very happy if all the kool-aid drinkers are right and I am wrong, and I will come in here and happily face up to you and Priesttj, Lefty12, Oakglenn and all the other positive thinkers and excuse makers and I will sing the praises of Al Davis and Tom Cable and all that jazz…
…but guess what, I’ve seen it all before in here…over and over again. After every victory they all jump off the cliff and declare that this is finally the turnaround we’ve been waiting for and they bash the doubters like me and call me a fake Raiders fan and all the other BS, but then when we lose the next 3 out of 4 games they go back to excuse making mode.
I just don’t buy it yet. Once I see that Cable really can coach and that the defense really isn’t horrible, then I will declare that the turnaround is near. Until then, the best I can say is that we may have hit rock bottom last season and there is nowhere to go but up….maybe the old Churchill quote is best for how I feel about the Raiders right now…his is not the end…. but it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning…if we get some fuking trench players.
September 2nd, 2009 at 10:22 am
I wonder what type of trade value Garcia has.
I feel pretty confident with either Frye & Gradkowski as a back-up. (If J-Russ goes down, I feel our season was more or less doomed anywsys, even with Garcia)
I wonder if we could trade Garcia to a team in desperate need of a QB (i.e. Broncos, Whiners, Chiefs, Redskins) for a decent middle linebacker with size.
That way, we could move Morrisson over to the outside.
Wishful thinking?
September 2nd, 2009 at 10:23 am
At some point in the season these fans are going to be glad Fargas is on this team. He is not a problem he’s an asset, what’s the issue?
Adios!!
September 2nd, 2009 at 10:24 am
“la to thebay-the receding hairline makes him more aerodynamic”
LMAO.
September 2nd, 2009 at 10:24 am
Dakota:
I may give you crap, but, I’m not calling you a “fake” Raider fan.
And I could care less if you come in here and eat crow or not if the Raiders do well. I don’t need that from anyone to satisfy me in some way.
What I would simply say to you is to try something new.
You’re saying you can’t be positive.
I beg to differ.
Just enjoy it for what it is. It’s football.
It’s your favorite team.
You may as well sink with the rest of us if we’re gonna sink!
Smile a little man!
September 2nd, 2009 at 10:24 am
Priest…you really think that drafting LB next year is going to turn this team around. How about the offensive line? How about the DE and DT positions that have been getting tossed around like rag-dolls, while teams pound the football down our throats?
This team needs a whole new right side of the line, productive DTs, DEs, and one LB in the middle who specializes in stopping the run..I don’t care if a LB run’s a 4.4 and can cover a WR. That doesn’t stop a 330pd tackle from mooshn his face into the infield dirt.
I hoping 3 or 4 wins this year. I’m hoping russel, Bush, DHB and McFadden mature and gain experience. But how can those offensive players improve with such a terrible, penalty ridden line in front of them?
September 2nd, 2009 at 10:26 am
It’s hilarious to see you guys wanting to trade Garcia, just to make sure he’s not there to come in and take Russell’s job if Russell is stinking up the joint. So then if Russell stinks, you guys can just make the case that Gradkowski and Frye are the only options, so we’d might as well go with Russell. All politics, all the time, with the Davis worshipers. You guys would rather go down in 2-14 flames than see Al Davis be proven wrong about anything.
September 2nd, 2009 at 10:28 am
# He Hate Me Says:
September 2nd, 2009 at 10:03 am
Fact or Fiction on ESPN. Mark Schlereth says Garcia will start in place of Russel, at some point, this season,… your thoughts Nation?…
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Schlereth is a punk-azz. Interesting that he said “at some point.” A couple of months ago I heard him unequivocally say that Garcia would replace JaMarcus by Week 5 of the season. Now it’s “at some point.” Careful Mark, keep backpedaling like that and the Donkeys might bring you back to play DB.
September 2nd, 2009 at 10:30 am
Chris in NY, you’re right. Peter King predicted the Raiders to beat the Bucs in SB37.
September 2nd, 2009 at 10:30 am
Angelodebo says:
I hoping 3 or 4 wins this year. I’m hoping russel, Bush, DHB and McFadden mature and gain experience. But how can those offensive players improve with such a terrible, penalty ridden line in front of them?
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See, this is what I don’t get about statements like that:
How do you come to the conclusion that we will actually lose MORE games than last year when:
1. Our QB has gained more experience.
2. Our O-Line & D-Line aren’t actually worse than last year.
3. Our tight-end is pro-bowl bound.
4. We’ve added a real nice receiver in Murphy.
5. DHB could be very good as well.
6. Schulens is ready to be a star receiver that we’ve lacked for so long.
7. We have 3 great running backs.
8. Our division is even worse than last year.
9. We went 3-3 to finish last season.
Tell me how that translates to MORE losses???????
September 2nd, 2009 at 10:31 am
Smac,
I think they signed Garcia as less of an insurance policy and more as a motivator. A guy to push Russell, meaning I think he sticks this season.
I would prefer to see a monster at DT, which would elevate the play of everyone aroound him.
Getting a big body MLB does not solve the issue on DLine, which I think is a more pressing issue.
Our LBs are undersized and need to work on tackling, but if the Line freed up some space, I think they would be far more effective.
September 2nd, 2009 at 10:31 am
“at some point” isn’t exactly back peddling from “week 5″, Chris. OK, so if Garcia winds up starting week 7, Schlereth’s credibility’s toast? Get real.
September 2nd, 2009 at 10:34 am
LA:
I hear ya. I guess I just look at guys like Urlacher (sp?) in Chicago and see a big dude that comes up and punishes running backs at the point of attack, before they’re able to gain that 4th yard.
And that’s the bottom line. Hold teams to less than 4 yards a pop for a whole season and you’re usually doing well.
But I agree with you. This team should have never let Grady Jackson go. He had 3-4 good years left in him.
We need a pig in the middle. Kelly’s heavy, but, he’s tall.
We need a short fat pig basically. Two of ‘em.
September 2nd, 2009 at 10:40 am
I kept looking at the Vikings front 7, specifically their line, the other day, thinking to myself, damn, that’s what we need.
Insert the Williams bros. or a Jared Allen?
We could have track stars at LB and it wouldn’t even matter.
Frankly, though, the team needs balance. I just don’t see any meaningful additions to either line until next year, if at all.
Al has his skill guys locked.
QB, WR, TE, RB, CB.
He got his marquee guys in the last few drafts. Maybe we take a different approach next year. What other skill position could we possibly add in the 1st rd. next year?
And don’t say DB.
‘Cause you’re probably right, and it will only ruin my point.
September 2nd, 2009 at 10:40 am
Silver-n-Smac Says:
September 2nd, 2009 at 10:06 am
# Dakota Says:
September 2nd, 2009 at 9:55 am
You wanna know why I’m so positive?
Because I love football and the Oakland Raider are my team. And it’s only August, and we haven’t played a down yet, and none of us know how the season is really gonna turn out.
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Well you need 2 wake up pal because it’s fukkin September
September 2nd, 2009 at 10:40 am
linebackers like Urlacher cost money. A team has to be willing to spend a significant amount of bread on defense to get run stoppers in the front 7. Al Davis? Fuggetaboutit. Al doesn’t believe in stopping the run. He believes in building large enough leads to where teams will have to pass against you. He’s obviously insane.
September 2nd, 2009 at 10:41 am
Howard is our only supposed fast LB. Kirk ran a 4.7 at the combine. Kirk was drafted because he was supposed to be a football player not a track guy. And again, we draft D and O linemen basically every year. No-one knows for sure if these players are going to work out. So we supplement with undrafted FA’s and FA’s. No it hasn’t worked out for the best here recently, but to say we haven’t been targeting those areas is false.
September 2nd, 2009 at 10:41 am
I’d definitely trade Garcia if we could get anything decent in return. Gradkowski and Frye both look like solid backup QBs who have each really earned a roster spot. But one of them will get cut and surely scooped up by another team.
The problem is that I don’t know if anyone will give anything up for Garcia. If someone really needed him they would’ve signed him in the off-season. One team that makes a lot of sense is actually the Patriots. Brady already got dinged up and is coming off knee surgery. Their 3 backups from last year — Cassel, O’Connell and Gutierrez — are all gone. Think they really want to turn the reins of their mega-loaded team over to Andrew Walter if anything happens to Brady?
September 2nd, 2009 at 10:41 am
What has it come to when the Raider Nation starts to argue Jeff Garcia and Fargas as the future. This is not the Garcia that played for SF. This is the Garcia that played for Clevland, Lions, Tampabay…Now Oakland. Did I miss a team? Why do you think these other franchises let him go.
As for Fargas well he is just Fargas a very reliable work horse that you don’t shoot and put out his misery but he will not help you in the Kentucky Derby neither. Just because you have a “man crush” on a player does not make him great! Stop being happy with average. Average and “one day he will be great” is why we have had a pathetic record for 3-4+ years
September 2nd, 2009 at 10:43 am
Chris in NY Says:
September 2nd, 2009 at 10:41 am
I’d definitely trade Garcia if we could get anything decent in return. Gradkowski and Frye both look like solid backup QBs who have each really earned a roster spot. But one of them will get cut and surely scooped up by another team.
The problem is that I don’t know if anyone will give anything up for Garcia. If someone really needed him they would’ve signed him in the off-season. One team that makes a lot of sense is actually the Patriots. Brady already got dinged up and is coming off knee surgery. Their 3 backups from last year — Cassel, O’Connell and Gutierrez — are all gone. Think they really want to turn the reins of their mega-loaded team over to Andrew Walter if anything happens to Brady?
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Chris, Chris we can not keep giving away talent to the Patriots. I don’t know what type of insider information they have on Al but he loves to give them players for free. Enough of the bargin deals with the Patriots.
September 2nd, 2009 at 10:43 am
Smac,
Well, I will not be smiling about the Raiders until we whip some SD ass (which probably isn’t going to happen)…otherwise, I will have to smile about the Lakers.
September 2nd, 2009 at 10:45 am
Chris, you just want Garcia out of town to avoid the controversy of having a lousy starting qb and a 3 time pro bowler sitting on the bench.
September 2nd, 2009 at 10:49 am
Ok, OAKlifer, Schlereth doesn’t have BALLS!!!! Roger that. BALLS!!! And we know you have BALLS!!!! OAKlifer. BALLS!!! You’re on the internet every day showing you have BALLS!!!!! BALLS!!!! Raider Nation, dude!!!!!! BALLS!!!!!!!!
September 2nd, 2009 at 10:49 am
You guys just want Garcia traded because you know Russell’s going to suck and you don’t want the controversy of having a 3 time pro bowler sitting on the bench while you try to make excuses for Russell’s failure. With Gradkowski and Frye backing him up, two no names, you guys can just make the case that Russell’s our only chance. Slick. But you don’t fool me.
September 2nd, 2009 at 10:50 am
Chris,
I don’t think Garcia is a fit in that offense. The Patriots like tall statues in the pocket who deliver the ball with a lot of timing, and I think Garcia is just the opposite.
The only time recently I saw them go away from that was when they picked up Flutie and his Flakes, though I think they had no intention of playing him.
Cassell’s a bit more mobile, but they got rid of him already and stuck Walter in his place, who I think is real similar to Brady physically.
Besides, we’d probably let them con us into like a 9th round pick for him in 2025.
September 2nd, 2009 at 10:52 am
LOL……Whats the Happs MR???
I blog from 6-2 while I sit at my desk earning far more than I should blogging every day….. It seems you were intriged or at least turned on by the word balls….or so it seems by your last post….I dont think we are batting for the same team bro……And for Marky mark…..How can you call ur self The Real MaddenRaider and defend this Donk??? just curious?? and why would you attack me was it that I just owned your litlle cohaort rackometer while he was pretending to be you or you him or wait never mind…..useless
September 2nd, 2009 at 10:53 am
# The Real MaddenRaider Says:
September 2nd, 2009 at 10:49 am
You guys just want Garcia traded because you know Russell’s going to suck and you don’t want the controversy of having a 3 time pro bowler sitting on the bench while you try to make excuses for Russell’s failure. With Gradkowski and Frye backing him up, two no names, you guys can just make the case that Russell’s our only chance. Slick. But you don’t fool me.
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Yeah dude – that’s what we want.
Are you as dumb as you sound?
September 2nd, 2009 at 10:56 am
silver n mac, any Raider fan who wants the team to win wants Garcia to start, not be traded. That’s how I know your guys’ agenda.
September 2nd, 2009 at 10:56 am
OAKlifer, I thought by balls you meant courage. If you were talking about your testicles, then you’re the weirdo. I don’t care about your genitals, nor did I make any reference to them. By “Balls”, I thought you meant courage. I’m sorry I misunderstood you. And, I don’t swing that way, so no thanks. Good luck with getting Schlereth to show you his real balls, though. I don’t think he swings that way, either. You should try Javon Walker. Butter him up with some champagne. Who knows?
September 2nd, 2009 at 10:59 am
well just in time right around 11 am all the football talk stops then its a pissing match between Duder, MR, rackometer……and who ever else will listen or respond……..
Later nation!!!!!!!
Aruging on the internet is like racing in the special olympics…yhea you might win but you have to be damn near retatred to enter…….
September 2nd, 2009 at 11:00 am
And we know you’re above fighting on the internet, OAKlifer. You just come in and talk about balls. You’re perfectly normal.
September 2nd, 2009 at 11:02 am
“Aruging on the internet is like racing in the special olympics…yhea you might win but you have to be damn near retatred to enter…….”
LOL
September 2nd, 2009 at 11:04 am
OAKlifer got kicked out of the special olympics for grabbing participants’ balls and commenting on them. “those are big. You might be retarded, but those are nice balls”. And he’s acting like he’s all above us.
September 2nd, 2009 at 11:04 am
MR has tourettes?! Can’t say I’m surprised, although I always thought it was a verbal pathology…not something that would seep into typed communication.
MR you should be studied by experts. Other sick people could benefit.
September 2nd, 2009 at 11:04 am
LA To TheBay, has OAKlifer asked you to show him your balls yet? He will.
September 2nd, 2009 at 11:05 am
People who still think Al Davis can run a football team need to be studied by experts, Bo.
September 2nd, 2009 at 11:06 am
A very happy 43rd. birthday, Salma Hayek..
September 2nd, 2009 at 11:07 am
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
September 2nd, 2009 at 11:04 am
“LA To TheBay, has OAKlifer asked you to show him your balls yet? He will.”
No, but I’m told by your mom that they look like Michael Bush’s face.
Yes, that was my cheap shot of the day, and not much of one at that.
Unlike most of you, I am always entertained by MR and his antics.
September 2nd, 2009 at 11:08 am
# The Real MaddenRaider Says:
September 2nd, 2009 at 10:31 am
“at some point” isn’t exactly back peddling from “week 5″, Chris. OK, so if Garcia winds up starting week 7, Schlereth’s credibility’s toast? Get real.
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“At some point” is back-peddling from “week 5.” Week 5 is a definitive date, early in the season. It says JaMarcus is going to suck so bad that they dump him on the bench less than a third into the season. He didn’t say “week 7.” “At some point” is vague. It’s clear that JaMarcus is much better than Schlereth gave him credit and while Schlereth doesn’t want to bail on his previous opinion, he’s slowly slinking away from it.
All this reminds me. I want to create a list of all the media geniuses bashing JaMarcus, calling him a bust. Just off the top of my head, that includes:
– Mark “Garcia will start by Week 5″ Schlereth
– Pat “If the Raiders release Garcia they have the worst QB group in the NFL” Kirwan
– Brian “JaMarcus can’t play. He’s a bust” Baldinger
And I know there are many others. I’ll try to remember them all later. These are just a few I’ve come across recently. Please post the names of any of these jokers who are calling JaMarcus a bust. I’d like to remember them when JaMarcus tears it up this year.
September 2nd, 2009 at 11:08 am
I will say, I am very impressed with Russell’s offseason conditioning, I mean, look at his sleek frame as he runs sprints at training camp:
http://content.ytmnd.com/content/e/b/c/ebcc447950008201e9f32849cab8e196.jpg
September 2nd, 2009 at 11:08 am
OK, Chris, Shclereth is wrong, and has no credibility. If Garcia starts week 6, he’ll have been proven so wrong! I mean, he said week 5. You’re all over it, Chris. You’re definitely one of the smart Davis kool aid drinkers. Yeh.
September 2nd, 2009 at 11:10 am
# The Real MaddenRaider Says:
September 2nd, 2009 at 10:56 am
silver n mac, any Raider fan who wants the team to win wants Garcia to start, not be traded. That’s how I know your guys’ agenda.
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Agenda? Are you for real? Trust me, I have more important things in my life than to have “agendas” in regards to football.
Do you realize Garcia is 52-50 as a starting QB in the NFL? You speak about him as though he’s going to lead us to the promised land.
No dude. The reason I brought up trading him is that I figured he’d be realistic trade bait for a team that’s hurting at QB right now. If we could trade a back-up QB for a decent run stuffer right now, you wouldn’t do it?
What, you think we’d win 8 games with Garcia this year and 4 with Russell?
That’s your answer for our future?
Funny stuff man.
September 2nd, 2009 at 11:11 am
silvernmac, you have more important things in your life than an agenda to defend Al Davis and the Raiders? Ha ha! Yeh, good one.
September 2nd, 2009 at 11:12 am
Who am I defending?
The person & team you refer to needs no defending.
If you think they do, you really ARE an idiot.
September 2nd, 2009 at 11:13 am
I’ve had enough of this nonsense, and I will not sink down to your guys’ level of internet flame wars anymore. Don’t bother responding. Good day.
September 2nd, 2009 at 11:16 am
“you have more important things in your life than an agenda to defend Al Davis and the Raiders? Ha ha! Yeh, good one.”
Considering that you group ‘Raiders’ and ‘Al Davis’ so frequently, MR, one can assume you agree, like the rest of the world, that Al Davis runs the Raider Organization completely, and has done so for the better part of 50 years.
So unless you’re a fan of the 1960-1963 Raiders, you must be a fan of the Davis-era Raiders.
That being said, any fondness you may have for the Raiders, Al Davis is indirectly responsible for. Al had the forsight to hire Madden, a relatively little know line coach, and the youngest ever to be HC at that time.
So, wait…..remind me again why you’re a fan? Or IF you’re a fan?
September 2nd, 2009 at 11:17 am
Silvernmac stop starting trouble with me. I’m going to ignore you from here on out because I will not sink down to your level. Not today. Goodbye. Do not bother responding.
September 2nd, 2009 at 11:17 am
# CJ Legend 34 Says:
September 2nd, 2009 at 10:43 am
Chris, Chris we can not keep giving away talent to the Patriots. I don’t know what type of insider information they have on Al but he loves to give them players for free. Enough of the bargin deals with the Patriots.
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The Burgess deal was fair. You’re talking about a guy with a long injury history, in his 30s, in the final year of his contract who’s numbers have diminished each of the last 3 seasons. And you get 3rd and 5th round picks for him. Sounds fair to me.
And the Moss trade wasn’t even that bad. Hindsight is 20-20, but if any team would’ve given any more for him we would’ve taken it. Nobody wanted him though. He was a whining little quitter with the Raiders. When the going got tough, Moss pouted. He was a major drag on a young rebuilding team. Al had to get rid of him. Despite the fact that Moss has proven he’s still an elite talent, I don’t regret dumping him. He never would’ve given the effort to succeed in Oakland.
And Garcia was a free agent QB who had no offers to start anywhere. He’s a 40-year-old with a 1-year deal. Getting a 4th-round pick for him is about the best you could hope for. Maybe a 3rd if a contender’s QB goes down and they have no viable backup.
September 2nd, 2009 at 11:17 am
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
September 2nd, 2009 at 11:13 am
I’ve had enough of this nonsense, and I will not sink down to your guys’ level of internet flame wars anymore. Don’t bother responding. Good day.
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True, you are quite flaming already. Don’t bother rethponding.
September 2nd, 2009 at 11:18 am
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
I’ve had enough of this nonsense, and I will not sink down to your guys’ level of internet flame wars anymore.
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Now THAT is funny coming from you!! hahaha has anyone told you that you post like you smell like urine?
September 2nd, 2009 at 11:19 am
rethponding….lmao
September 2nd, 2009 at 11:19 am
# The Real MaddenRaider Says:
September 2nd, 2009 at 11:17 am
Silvernmac stop starting trouble with me. I’m going to ignore you from here on out because I will not sink down to your level. Not today. Goodbye. Do not bother responding.
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I thought you said you were done responding in your other epost???
September 2nd, 2009 at 11:21 am
Leave me alone! Not today. Not today!
September 2nd, 2009 at 11:22 am
# The Real MaddenRaider Says:
September 2nd, 2009 at 11:08 am
OK, Chris, Shclereth is wrong, and has no credibility. If Garcia starts week 6, he’ll have been proven so wrong! I mean, he said week 5. You’re all over it, Chris. You’re definitely one of the smart Davis kool aid drinkers. Yeh.
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If Garcia takes over at any point this season because of JaMarcus’ bad play I wouldn’t necessarily consider Schlereth wrong. That’s not the point. The point is GARCIA WILL NOT TAKE OVER FOR JAMARCUS THIS SEASON. It’s just not going to happen. And while that’s slowly sinking into Schlereth’s thick skull, he’s too stubborn to credit JaMarcus for looking like the real deal and he’s instead gradually easing off of his earlier statement. In a few weeks, he’ll either be saying “JaMarcus has looked good, so far, but he still has a long way to go” (if the Raiders are winning) or he’ll try blaming JaMarcus for the Raiders losing even if JaMarcus has a 100+ QB rating.
September 2nd, 2009 at 11:23 am
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
September 2nd, 2009 at 11:21 am
Leave me alone! Not today. Not today!
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What’s wrong, did you see the latest approval polls on Obama or something?
September 2nd, 2009 at 11:26 am
I don’t follow presidential polls, Dakota. I barely even vote. Obama was the first candidate I voted for since Bill Clinton. Judging by the election results, I wasn’t alone, was I?
September 2nd, 2009 at 11:26 am
Dakota are you one of those people that watches FoxNews all day? I’m envious.
September 2nd, 2009 at 11:27 am
Dakota,
Did you accept my generous FF trade? LMFAO
September 2nd, 2009 at 11:28 am
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
September 2nd, 2009 at 11:21 am
Leave me alone! Not today. Not today!
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His last words typed in here before this happened:
http://www.fugly.com/media/IMAGES/Random/long_neck_man_arrested.jpg
September 2nd, 2009 at 11:28 am
Dakota, your masterful skill of posting url’s to pictures, basically making your comments captions for the photos you link to. Brilliant. I’m envious. I mean, nobody else can do that.
September 2nd, 2009 at 11:29 am
rethponding….lmao
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
September 2nd, 2009 at 11:00 am
And we know you’re above fighting on the internet,
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Then he says this….LOL at this duchbachery!!!hahahha MR YOU SUCK AT LIFE BRO!!!!!! PULL IT!!!! HAHAHAH DO IT!!
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
September 2nd, 2009 at 11:13 am
I’ve had enough of this nonsense, and I will not sink down to your guys’ level of internet flame wars anymore. Don’t bother responding. Good day.
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True, you are quite flaming already. Don’t bother rethponding.
again Rethponding HAHAH LOL .dnt bother
September 2nd, 2009 at 11:30 am
I’ve gotta get my clothes out of the dryer. I’ll be right back. Do not talk about me.
September 2nd, 2009 at 11:30 am
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
September 2nd, 2009 at 11:21 am
Leave me alone! Not today. Not today!
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His last words typed in here before this happened:
http://www.fugly.com/media/IMAGES/Random/long_neck_man_arrested.jpg
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HAHAHA hey MR since you’ll be locked up for all the kiddie stuff going on in your Trailer park can I have the Webber on the gound under your Trailer in the pic????
September 2nd, 2009 at 11:31 am
This one Exla?
Exla Rocks
Mewelde Moore
Nate Washington
for
Dakota
Calvin Johnson
Maurice Jones-Drew
I think I might pass…but throw in Justin Fargas and we might have a deal!
September 2nd, 2009 at 11:33 am
I think I might pass…but throw in Justin Fargas and we might have a deal!
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LOL I try an trade Lee evans for Chris henery yesterday and dude told me I was crazy!! 1LLOL
Evans Starts and dsnt get suspended and has TO to distract DB’s and Safties….I just needed depth with out having 3 Bills players!!! ohwell his loss I will not offer that shizz again!!
September 2nd, 2009 at 11:36 am
lunth time felllaths pleasth dont talk about me while im gone..NOT TODAY !!!! not today……
HAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA
again Rethponding HAHAH LOL .dnt bother
September 2nd, 2009 at 11:38 am
did somebody take out the trash?
the last 3 or 4 posts have been troll free!
September 2nd, 2009 at 11:39 am
Smac: did you see Fargas’ injury history I posted earlier?
curious to hear your thoughts on that…
September 2nd, 2009 at 11:42 am
Chris in NY Says:
September 2nd, 2009 at 11:17 am
# CJ Legend 34 Says:
September 2nd, 2009 at 10:43 am
Chris, Chris we can not keep giving away talent to the Patriots. I don’t know what type of insider information they have on Al but he loves to give them players for free. Enough of the bargin deals with the Patriots.
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The Burgess deal was fair. You’re talking about a guy with a long injury history, in his 30s, in the final year of his contract who’s numbers have diminished each of the last 3 seasons. And you get 3rd and 5th round picks for him. Sounds fair to me.
And the Moss trade wasn’t even that bad. Hindsight is 20-20, but if any team would’ve given any more for him we would’ve taken it. Nobody wanted him though. He was a whining little quitter with the Raiders. When the going got tough, Moss pouted. He was a major drag on a young rebuilding team. Al had to get rid of him. Despite the fact that Moss has proven he’s still an elite talent, I don’t regret dumping him. He never would’ve given the effort to succeed in Oakland.
And Garcia was a free agent QB who had no offers to start anywhere. He’s a 40-year-old with a 1-year deal. Getting a 4th-round pick for him is about the best you could hope for. Maybe a 3rd if a contender’s QB goes down and they have no viable backup.
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Ok Chris you won me over, guess the deals were not bad at first take. Second take….oh boy! Now we will see about the Burgess deal. Also don’t forget they picked up our left overs Lamont Jordan “a broke mans Bo Jackson” and Andrew Walters.
September 2nd, 2009 at 11:43 am
Dakota,
We got a deal if I can obtain Fargus but I think he is untouchable.
September 2nd, 2009 at 11:46 am
Raiders defense better be ready. Tomlinson has a real chip on his shoulder. When a talented dude is trying to prove a point watch out man!
Why did they not bring up RB Fargas the Oakland Raiders Mid-god of thunder among the greats? NOT!!
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Fantasy leagues that used to annoint Tomlinson as nearly an automatic top overall pick aren’t as high on him. But Tomlinson, the league’s rushing champion in 2006 and 2007, isn’t ready to cede the spotlight.
Here’s what he said about Minnesota’s Adrian Peterson, last year’s rushing champion:
“Jim Brown was telling Peterson he’s the best runner he’d seen in a long time. I was sitting there reading it thinking, ‘Wow.’
“The difference with me is you can put me out on that field and there will be nothing I can’t do. I won’t have to come off the field. Adrian has to come off sometimes on third down. Running routes, he’s still not there yet. Great downhill runner, powerful, fast, all that stuff. . .
“But anything on that field you want me to do — throw it, block — I can do it. That’s what I pride myself on is not having any weaknesses. And that’s what makes me the best back.”
– Sean Leahy
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September 2nd, 2009 at 11:51 am
It’s a great day to be a Raiders fan. Isn’t it?
C,mon, MR — Say it with me…It’s a GREAT day to be a Raiders fan!
Talk of trading Garcia is SUPER smart…but, not to any team in the AFC West. That would be lunacy, requiring a complete overhaul of terminology and looks for the Offense. Garcia should go away…traded for a pick/s later, or for a journeyman D-lineman on some team’s S-list. Between Frye, Gradkowski (and Southwick!)…we’ve got enough average talent to backup JaMarcus.
Garcia a threat to JaMarcus’s job (unless there’s an injury)??? That’s just stupid talk. Since last November, JaMarcus has out-played Garcia at every turn, and on two separate teams. Garcia is getting no better, and JaMarcus still has great potential for improvement. The security-blanket Garcia provided, while we found out JaMarcus really has improved, was worth the purchase. Now, it’s time to sell it at a yard sale.
Brandon Marshall??? Like this team needs a bigger headache than T.O. and OchoChad. This guy has MULTIPLE run-ins with the law…many of them domestic disturbances. Anybody recall what happened to the great Freddie B’s daughter not too many years ago? Let Brandon Marshall go somewhere else. Let him be great for someone else…right up ’til they run him out of town later, for being the a$$hole we all knew he was all along. Marshall is who we think he is.
The Burgess trade? That was an EXCELLENT trade by the Old Man. First…ANY player that doesn’t want to be here, and is willing to make a stink over it, needs to go away asap. Moss looks great in New England? So what…once things got tough (before, actually), he refused to even try here. See ya later, Moss. Burgess is a (sometimes great) one-dimensional player, whom the Pats already know they can’t use as an every-down guy. So, we got two picks for Burgess, a guy who necessitates splitting downs with another player, because he can’t stop the run. Ellis looks at least as capable as Burgess, and maybe better all-around. Trade well done, and replacement signing well done.
September 2nd, 2009 at 11:55 am
Hey, MR — Did you notice I raised my points prediction for the Raiders this year?
After our awesome display of Offensive talent the other night…instead of my earlier prediction of 22 points per game…
I now think this team will score an average of 22.1 points per game.
September 2nd, 2009 at 11:57 am
HD37
611
Point 1. Dead on
Point 2. Dead on
Point 3. Dead on
Point 4. Dead on
Good post.
September 2nd, 2009 at 11:59 am
# LA to TheBay Says:
September 2nd, 2009 at 11:45 am
If you’re into the supression of first amendment rights, in favor of torture, like guns, love big business and don’t care to keep any jobs in America, all while politicizing the Justice Dep’t and wire tapping innocent citizens and building a giant wall to seclude us from the rest of the civilized world (which provides free, quality healthcare to all it’s citizens, by the way), or just plain misguided because you vote on some skewed perception morality (for politicians????? LOL!!!!!!!), then, ya I could see how you would lean that way.
Of course, your alternative on the left has no spine, and while claiming to be champions of the people and civil liberties, still compromise individual freedoms by selling out to big business and other special interest lobbies on Capitol Hill.
Either, way – you’re f*cked. But hey, we have football.
America – 1
Rest of the world – 0
Take that, France!!!
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This post should be required reading for every high school civics class in America. Hell, it should be the entire curriculum. It’s pretty much all you really need to know about current events in this country.
Sept. 14. Just win baby.
September 2nd, 2009 at 11:59 am
Chris, I just saw the sportscenter segment with Schlereth. I agree with him. Got a problem with that?
September 2nd, 2009 at 12:00 pm
# RaiderRockstar Says:
September 2nd, 2009 at 11:39 am
Smac: did you see Fargas’ injury history I posted earlier?
curious to hear your thoughts on that…
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Rockstar:
Point well taken. I did not know of his previous injuries. But, I guess what I don’t get is why we dwell on his injuries so much. The bottom line for me is that the guy sucks it up and plays through injury the majority of the time and when he’s in there, he’s a tough SOB. Injuries are part of the position for running backs. It’s nothing new. He’s not alone in that regard. Heck, Adrian Peterson could be argued to be more injury-prone.
If you think he’s not good enough, that’s one thing.
But, I just think the injuries aren’t worth dwelling on. He gets hurt because he plays so hard.
And we really have a problem with THAT???
September 2nd, 2009 at 12:00 pm
Alright, Hayez, 21.1 ppg. I’ve got you marked down. We will discuss this again mid season when we’re averaging about 10 ppg.
September 2nd, 2009 at 12:01 pm
I meant to say I wasn’t aware of his college injuries.
And he’s been out of college long enough that I don’t see the relevancy now. I think he’s durable enough.
Furthermore the beauty of having 3 capable backs.
September 2nd, 2009 at 12:01 pm
# The Real MaddenRaider Says:
September 2nd, 2009 at 11:59 am
Chris, I just saw the sportscenter segment with Schlereth. I agree with him. Got a problem with that?
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Not at all.
Why don’t you go buy a Schlereth throwback jersey and become a Donkeys fan while you’re at it?
September 2nd, 2009 at 12:02 pm
Hayez, why is it a great day to be a Raider fan? What has happened in Alameda to convince me that this team is competing for a Super Bowl? It won’t be a “great day” to be a Raider fan again until that happens. I told you, PLENTY OF TIMES. We win our season opener, we win 3 straight, or we break the 8 win mark, and I’m on board. In the meantime, it’s not a good day to be a Raider fan. It fuggin SUCKS to be a Raider fan. IT’s embarrassing.
September 2nd, 2009 at 12:03 pm
I hate you guys.
September 2nd, 2009 at 12:06 pm
Why should I buy a Schlereth jersey, Chris? Because I agree with him? I agree with things that Bill Cowher says, too. Should I buy a Steeler jersey? I agree with Howie Long all of the time, and, already have a Raider jersey. Howie’s, to be exact. I’ve got a Howie and a Marcus. I’ve agreed with a representative of every single team in the league at one point or another. I can’t afford to buy jerseys of all of those teams. Sorry. But your demands are just unrealistic. And your logic is unreasonable. You bother me.
September 2nd, 2009 at 12:12 pm
Garcia was supposed to com in here set teh example by working extra hard to show JaMarcus how its done but the slacker missed almost the entire camp himself.
I guess even hard working Garcia caught that “I’m a Raider I don’t need to play hard just picking up that paycheck” Attitude.
September 2nd, 2009 at 12:13 pm
RRS
I don’t think those injury stats mean a damn thing.
Okay, Fargas has been playing in the league for six more years than they have.
If I’m six years older than my nephew, I’m sure I’ll have taken more sh*ts than him.
I guess my point is, Bush ans DMC don’t have a body of work in the NFL yet to compare to Fargas.
Which also means Fargas is way more accomplished than the other two.
When we say we want Bush and DMC, we say so because of what little we’ve seen from them and their potential.
That being said, I like Fargas, but out of the three, I think we ride Bush the hardest (minds out of the gutter, people).
September 2nd, 2009 at 12:20 pm
That’s why most people come here, SNB666. An easy paycheck. It’s the rapport Al Davis keeps with veteran players around the league. They know if they come to Oakland they won’t have to work. That’s why real coaches like Gruden and Kiffin have such a tough time here and make so many enemies. The first thing they have to do is clear out the dead wood and get rid of all of the dinosaurs here for their siesta. It took Gruden 3 years to do it.
September 2nd, 2009 at 12:26 pm
new post MR, you fa66ot
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