Live Raiders chat today at noon
By Jon Becker
Thursday, September 3rd, 2009 at 11:13 am in Live chats, Oakland Raiders.
A reminder that Jerry McDonald will be here today at noon PDT for our weekly Raiders live chat.
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September 3rd, 2009 at 11:17 am
yo
September 3rd, 2009 at 11:17 am
go Raiders-fix this site!!!!!!
September 3rd, 2009 at 11:19 am
it’s going 2B very interesting 2C who they cut at RB and DL,imo
September 3rd, 2009 at 11:21 am
Its harder to logout then in…sheesh!
September 3rd, 2009 at 11:21 am
Jerry Mac & McDonalds, huh?
Mario Henderson would prefer Burger King …
September 3rd, 2009 at 11:22 am
Gary Russell stays Rankin walks.
Jospeh should be the last Dliner to make the cut. Gunheim and Bochetti are toast.
September 3rd, 2009 at 11:23 am
Repost
“Bey hasn’t done squat..and neither has the Raiders offense.”
Also hasn’t done squat in the 2009 season….
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September 3rd, 2009 at 11:24 am
I’m lovin’ it? Times are hard for the papers.
September 3rd, 2009 at 11:24 am
Denver Broncos coach Josh McDaniels said Sunday that his team isn’t going to trade wide receiver Brandon Marshall(notes). But the word is that the team is trying to deal him and would love to get rid of him. He hasn’t exactly been Mr. Sunshine in the locker room lately, which has not surprisingly helped his chances of being traded.
Remember that McDaniels said earlier this year that the team wouldn’t trade quarterback Jay Cutler(notes) and then they ditched Cutler off to the Chicago Bears.
September 3rd, 2009 at 11:24 am
I wish Mark Wilson would get well.2 me he has a promising carrer if he could just stay healthy.Cal boy ya know
September 3rd, 2009 at 11:24 am
AZ Raider Says:
September 3rd, 2009 at 11:23 am
Pushmyshyt is still in here screaming bloody murder about the Raiders huh? Stupid muthrfuker is a 9er fan and he’s talking shyt on a Raiders blog. What a douche bag LOL. If I was a 9er fan I’d be pissed too though.
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Anyways FFL:
If you don’t check you e-mail guys, I need a RB bad. I’m willing to give up Randy Moss to get one. Bring on the trade offers.
VEGAS:
I just sent one to ya.
September 3rd, 2009 at 11:26 am
VEGAS:
I didn’t expect THAT one to get excepted but it was worth a try.
I’ll send a more reasonable one.
September 3rd, 2009 at 11:26 am
AZ,
I seen it and shot you down. I got Joe Addai on the bench, maybe be willing to part with him. Need WR’s.
September 3rd, 2009 at 11:26 am
What’s goin’ on, VR? Ya, long time, no talk.
September 3rd, 2009 at 11:26 am
I see you need a WR. But for Moss it’s gonna have to be a pretty good RB.
What would you want for Grant?
September 3rd, 2009 at 11:27 am
Vegas…I read that Rankin could still be put on the practice squad,but Gary Russell cant
September 3rd, 2009 at 11:28 am
Huff is poor in coverage and worse at tackling.
Eugene is very poor in coverage but can certainly tackle.
I think Eugene is the lesser of two evils.
The safety position will probably end up being Mitchell at SS and Branch at FS, with Baker the occasional center field when they go 3 or 4 deep.
I don’t expect this to occur anytime before the bye.
If Huff can turn in more plays like the one vs. Dallas, maybe he sticks or gets limited reps on obvious passing downs. I just don’t see it happening, though.
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LA to TheBay: are you kidding me? Huff is our best cover safety.
you want to cut him in favor of Eugene & Branch?
these guys can’t cover Brandon Myers, Tony Stewart, Chris O’Neill, Darrell Strong & Marcel Reece!
I’m not looking forward to facing Antonio Gates on MNF if Huff is out of the lineup.
You need to quit listening to Jerry Mac saying “He’s always a step late in coverage during OTA’s”. Real games is where you’ll find hard evidence that shows just the opposite. He’s all over the league’s best TE’s like stink on horse pucky
September 3rd, 2009 at 11:29 am
RRS
Huff was more effective covering tight ends.
When they stick him in centerfield, he blows tackle after tackle.
He’s had very few INTs and passes defensed.
Raiders will play a S in the box and one deep. Huff isn’t really suited for either.
He is also major liability against the run.
September 3rd, 2009 at 11:30 am
Addai… Eh, I’d do Devin Hester for Him, or Desuan Jackson for Grant + one of your recievers.
OR – Randy Moss & Bush for Grant + Chad Johnson?
September 3rd, 2009 at 11:35 am
What are you Al Davis? Desean Jackson for Grant + a WR????
I’m keeping Ocho.
September 3rd, 2009 at 11:37 am
I just need a filler WR to take Mosses spot.
September 3rd, 2009 at 11:38 am
I see little Ricky is still in here phaggin it up. A 49r begging for attention on a daily basis from Raider men. It’s really quite sad.
September 3rd, 2009 at 11:39 am
I’ll come up with something and we can offer and counter offer until we hammer something out.
September 3rd, 2009 at 11:39 am
Eh fyck it. Its not for $$$. Ill have to stick with the hand I was delt.
September 3rd, 2009 at 11:40 am
I’ll consider any offers you come up with though VEGAS.
September 3rd, 2009 at 11:41 am
Eugene is NOT a good tackler. He’s awful!
September 3rd, 2009 at 11:43 am
I think Eugene is a better tackler than Huff right now
September 3rd, 2009 at 11:46 am
You are just holding him to a higher standard because he was the #7 pick. Huff is not a tackling machine, but he is BY FAR a better player than Eugene.
Eugene is the Justin Fargas of the secondary.
September 3rd, 2009 at 11:48 am
I don’t put a whole lotta stock in OTAs. I see Huff on an island blowing tackles, wheras Eugene is not as good in coverage but can tackle.
Like I said, I’ll take the lesser of two evils, if you will.
September 3rd, 2009 at 11:50 am
HUFF WOULDNT START FOR ANY OTHER TEAM. IMO
September 3rd, 2009 at 11:50 am
You’d prefer a FS who can’t cover?
Never mind that is his PRIMARY role.
September 3rd, 2009 at 11:51 am
LA to TheBay : Huff only started 5 games at FS last year before Cable took over and benched him. Thats after 2 years at SS.
Give me the name of one safety who ever had even a small amount of success under Rob Ryan in Oakland the past 5 years …
Give Huff the FS job. play centerfield. no more interchangeable safety garbage or LB’s dropping back and safeties playing up. Thats total bs.
If he doesn’t make a difference this year under a new/capable DC, then let him go try his luck elsewhere in FA. He shouldn’t be cut in favor of a few scrubs on the scholarship program before he ever gets a shot under the Marshall Plan
September 3rd, 2009 at 11:52 am
Cmon you guys ….
We are not talking about any other team. We are talking about HIRAM EUGENE.
Your focus is a bit off, IMO.
How about fixing the front 7 so the FS isn’t making TD saving tackles 5 or 6 times a game?
The FS’s job is not stopping the run.
September 3rd, 2009 at 11:52 am
yes Hiram Eugene is a beast in run support.
where did our run defense rank again?
and he’s going to start at FS because you THINK he’s an average tackler? ballhawk & cover skills are important for a guy playing centerfield and Eugene is abused in pass coverage time & time again – Huff isn’t
September 3rd, 2009 at 11:54 am
WE NEED SOMEBODY LIKE ED REED!!! TO BAD AL DOSENT LIKE THOSE TYPE OF PLAYERS. HE MUST NOT HAVE BEEN ABLE TO RUN A 4.3 40.
September 3rd, 2009 at 11:55 am
The FS’s job is not stopping the run.
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you mean Brian Dawkins alone won’t transform the donks into a Top 10 run stopping defense?
shoot!
I better go drop Broncos DST in fantasy football! LOL
September 3rd, 2009 at 11:56 am
WE SHOULDNT HAVE TO BE ARGUING ABOUT ARE SAFETIES STOPPING THE RUN. THAT SHOULD BE HANDLED 99 PERCENT OF THE TIME BY THE D LINE AND LB’S GOES TO SHOW YOU THE STATE OF THINGS RIGHT NOW.
September 3rd, 2009 at 11:56 am
As a strong safety, he was good in coverage, but no stand out play.
The guy can’t tackle and he’s not a ball hawk. What else is there for him to do?
We don’t play a Tampa 2, someone will be in the box, which is why we got Mitchell.
I wouldn’t cut the guy. If I gave that impression, my bad. We’re too thin at the position as is.
Baker is the best centerfielder we have, IMO. Branch played Vernon Davis well enough in SF, but didn’t play very well in NO game.
I guess the bottom line is, we’re debating who’s the least sh*tty S on the team?
That can’t be good.
September 3rd, 2009 at 11:59 am
“keep your fingers crossed for Mike Mitchell. We need him to show up this year!”
This we certainly agree on.
September 3rd, 2009 at 12:00 pm
If Huff stays in the doghouse or doesn’t make the final 53 Hiram Eugene will stink it up all year long and we’ll draft Taylor Mays for the FS job.
If Branch can’t keep up with a TE, how is he supposed to keep up with a WR if he played FS? I’m not even convinced he’s a good ST gunner. Jarrod Cooper was better.
keep your fingers crossed for Mike Mitchell. We need him to show up this year!
September 3rd, 2009 at 12:05 pm
I wonder if Mike Mitchell would be a better fit at FS. He wouldn’t be called on much in man coverage and could sit back and freelance and scare the life out of WRs coming across the middle rather than having to cover TEs and WRs man-to-man.
September 3rd, 2009 at 12:05 pm
I only see two roster spots open on this team. The question is, who has the best chance of making it as special teamers:
Rankin
Russell
Lawton
Reese
Greenwood
S. Williams
Bowie
Hawkins
Brown
Boyd
September 3rd, 2009 at 12:06 pm
Huff may have more talent on paper,but Eugene has outplayed him at every opportunity.who had more ints. last year?Huff is one of those guys who has the size,speed,etc. but his play never lives up to it.i thought guys were against scholarship players?
September 3rd, 2009 at 12:09 pm
Case in point, per the Hall of Fame Web site:
“Known for his hard-hitting style, Ronnie Lott was used at both left and right cornerback positions and as a free and strong safety during his 14-year career. The versatile defensive back earned 10 Pro Bowl invitations at three different positions. It was, however, at free safety, where he had the freedom to cover the whole field, that he may have been most effective.”
September 3rd, 2009 at 12:10 pm
we should trade for Corey Williams or Shaun Rodgers from Cleveland. Give up a 2nd rounder.
I’m telling you our offensive improvements mean nothing if our defense remains what it is. We will constantly be playing from behind all season.
Tommy Kelly is a good player, but he desparately needs someone to take the double team. Sands should be that guy with his size, but he obviously has ZERO technique. If Corey Williams plays low, and has good technique, etc, the middle of our defense could improve so much. We could even have Williams and Warren in the middle with Kelly holding down one rush end spot. We simply need size in the middle. Kelly is just too light. we need 330 in the middle, not 300 lbs. defensive anchors. Which is why we should have taken Ron Brace in 2nd round instead of giving him to NE and then drafting Mike Mitchell. I dont have naything against Mitchell but he doesnt fix our problems in the middle.
to me it should be Ellis, Warren, Newcomer (insert name here), and Kelly on the d-line from left to right.
thoughts?
September 3rd, 2009 at 12:13 pm
The safety production is an obvious product of the system – one safety has centerfield and gets few chances to take risks and make plays. The other usually has their back to the ball on passing downs.
I don’t blame Huff, Baker or Eugene and don’t expect much of Mitchell or Branch until the system is changed.
September 3rd, 2009 at 12:14 pm
# itzSteve Says:
September 3rd, 2009 at 12:05 pm
I only see two roster spots open on this team. The question is, who has the best chance of making it as special teamers:
Rankin
Russell
Lawton
Reese
Greenwood
S. Williams
Bowie
Hawkins
Brown
Boyd
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Going by that list I’d say Russell and either Reese or Lawton will be the two. Russell has really stood out on special teams in the preseason and has proven he can tote the rock as well. He’s also got the size to play FB. However, he’s not a proven fullback and with Oren O’Neal coming off an injury I think they’d like to keep a 2nd legitimate FB. Keeping 4 HBs is kind of a lot, but I just think Russell is a better special teams player and much better all-around player than those LBs and DBs.
Rankin and Boyd should definitely get practice squad invites.
September 3rd, 2009 at 12:16 pm
LOL @ Jerry: “Read the comments on my blog sometime and you’ll read stuff that is a lot tougher on the Raiders than the media has ever been.”
September 3rd, 2009 at 12:18 pm
# daraider09 Says:
September 3rd, 2009 at 12:10 pm
we should trade for Corey Williams or Shaun Rodgers from Cleveland. Give up a 2nd rounder.
I’m telling you our offensive improvements mean nothing if our defense remains what it is. We will constantly be playing from behind all season.
Tommy Kelly is a good player, but he desparately needs someone to take the double team. Sands should be that guy with his size, but he obviously has ZERO technique. If Corey Williams plays low, and has good technique, etc, the middle of our defense could improve so much. We could even have Williams and Warren in the middle with Kelly holding down one rush end spot. We simply need size in the middle. Kelly is just too light. we need 330 in the middle, not 300 lbs. defensive anchors. Which is why we should have taken Ron Brace in 2nd round instead of giving him to NE and then drafting Mike Mitchell. I dont have naything against Mitchell but he doesnt fix our problems in the middle.
to me it should be Ellis, Warren, Newcomer (insert name here), and Kelly on the d-line from left to right.
thoughts?
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I totally agree but would be shocked if it actually happens.
September 3rd, 2009 at 12:19 pm
we should trade for Corey Williams or Shaun Rodgers from Cleveland. Give up a 2nd rounder.
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LOL!
are you related to Florida Pete ???
September 3rd, 2009 at 12:19 pm
LOL, LA …
Yup that’s exactly it. Not good at all.
But again, it’s a by product of the awful Dline. How much of an impact do you expect the FS to have when the QB has 4 or 5 seconds to throw?
Ed Reed? Please! I think his ball hawking has more to do with the incredible pressure that Baltimore’s front 7 puts on the QB. Make the QB throw under pressure and I guarantee you Huff gets those 5 picks you’re asking for.
September 3rd, 2009 at 12:23 pm
Huff was out of position for 2 years and never had a chance at Free but for 5 games. When he played strong i dont remember Gates or Gonzo burning us like previous years did you see his pick aganist Dallas preseason needs to roam. Cut Eugene keep baker he was tied with picks last year recently said likes Raider system fits him he will ste pup Eugene as far as tackling beast seen him bounce off a few people in Preseason
September 3rd, 2009 at 12:25 pm
AZ!!!!
September 3rd, 2009 at 12:25 pm
I guess we will have to disagree Lefty. Doesn’t happen often, but Hiram Eugene is not the answer to me. Huff is flying around out there and Eugene is not. Again, it’s more about Eugene sucking than Huff e being all that. Huff is without question the better cover guy. He may be a split second late for the pick, but Eugene is not even in the play and it’s going for 6.
September 3rd, 2009 at 12:25 pm
I agree
September 3rd, 2009 at 12:28 pm
LA to TheBay Says:
September 3rd, 2009 at 11:23 am
Repost
“Bey hasn’t done squat..and neither has the Raiders offense.”
Also hasn’t done squat in the 2009 season….
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And you would be wrong.
At this point they’re are “only” 328 receivers that have done better than DHB in the first 3 games of the preseason…
ONLY 328…
September 3rd, 2009 at 12:28 pm
I’m all for a trade to beef up the DTs. Williams or Rogers would be nice pick ups. I’d be more interested in trading for a money DE. Any of those guys availble?
September 3rd, 2009 at 12:29 pm
[Comment From Bo Schembechler Jackson]
Any update on my boy Danny Southwick? Or discussion of the “intern” method of roster management?
12:20 jerrymac: Interesting to see if he still has a role when regular season begins.
I LOVE it!!!!!!!!!!11
September 3rd, 2009 at 12:29 pm
Nobody could stand out on this team the last few years dont care where you were picked Moss was washed up when he was here also…
September 3rd, 2009 at 12:31 pm
[Comment From Bo Schembechler Jackson]
Any update on my boy Danny Southwick? Or discussion of the “intern” method of roster management?
12:20 jerrymac: Interesting to see if he still has a role when regular season begins
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Look at Jerry acting coy! I think he was referring to either Garcia or Russell in his reply…
September 3rd, 2009 at 12:31 pm
Cable hopefully is changing the Thinking in the Organisation heard in interview said the thinking in house was BS
September 3rd, 2009 at 12:33 pm
jhill Says:
September 3rd, 2009 at 11:52 am
Cmon you guys ….
We are not talking about any other team. We are talking about HIRAM EUGENE.
Your focus is a bit off, IMO.
How about fixing the front 7 so the FS isn’t making TD saving tackles 5 or 6 times a game?
The FS’s job is not stopping the run.
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NO ONE can make up sorry excuses like you…no one.
You blame the D line for Eugene sucking?
Wait.
You also stated that, in YOUR OPINION, Bey was doing great. That he was pulling double coverage, so he was doing his job. That all was ‘just fine’.
Guy can’t get open, doesn’t fight for balls, and has had zero impact.
Weren’t you running your mouth off about how Bey was now going to be tearing up the league? How Russell and Bey were going to be this awesome combo?
Now you’re reduced to blaming the D line for a safety playing like crap, and stating a WR, who has caught only 2 passes, is doing great.
Kind of reaching, there, flea.
September 3rd, 2009 at 12:33 pm
hilarious-”do we have the personnel to run the 3-4″.hell we don’t have enough good LBs to run the 4-3!
September 3rd, 2009 at 12:34 pm
You scooped me OAKlifer!
September 3rd, 2009 at 12:35 pm
My bad……hey its a dog fight dog world out there Bo!!!
September 3rd, 2009 at 12:38 pm
Ellis 8-10 Sacks Jerry drinks my kool-aid!!!!!!!!
September 3rd, 2009 at 12:38 pm
Jhill,not a Eugene fan,but Huff has been a monumental BUST.that being said,i wouldn’t cut him.
September 3rd, 2009 at 12:38 pm
Has Cable been arrested yet?
September 3rd, 2009 at 12:39 pm
Woof.
September 3rd, 2009 at 12:41 pm
# jhill Says:
September 3rd, 2009 at 10:00 am
LMN,
The minute you get a look at Scott at DE, I think you will change your tune about our need for a DE. I don’t know that Shaugnessy is the answer, but the position certainly needed to be addressed. And boy has Scott proven that to be the case.
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Fair enough, but did acquire a real DT that could stop the run the DEs we have would automatically be better, its not the guy i dont like its the pick, and the picks before him… as with the DHB pick, probably good, but the O only gets good when we have a LT/RT or a center that can help them…
I see DHB as some nice alu-rims, but no need for them when the car you put them on dont have an engine…
it doesnt matter that we have Nnamdi or anybody else, if we cant stop the run… its like building the best wall around you city, but letting the gate be open..
it simply doesn’t compute.. Shaugnessy might be great, but its only plugging a tiny whole in our big seave…
September 3rd, 2009 at 12:43 pm
[Comment From termite]
i’m sorry, as much as i wanted to see russell get it going, i just don’t think he thinks fast enough to play in the nfl and be a star. he has the strength, but not the quickness of mind it appears. agree or disagree?
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One time I would like to hear some one back up this arugment….and dont give me the ohhh listen to hin talk BS either…….
I CALL BS
September 3rd, 2009 at 12:44 pm
Like I said, still here phaggin it up! Beggin for attention!
You know NOTHING about football so why even try? Your fantasy football logic doesn’t apply to the real game.
No Eugene sucks because … he sucks!
In addition, the Dline sucks!
See, your F’ing with the wrong guy. AGAIN!
Let’s poll football coaches and see if they would want a WR who constantly draws double teams. Wonder what they would say? I wonder if they would consider that an advantage.
You keepin up 9r guy?
I wonder if they would want like that to open up the underneath for a guy like Gore or Davis?
You still with me?
I wonder if Bruce would appreciate the single coverage?
Ehhhhh nevermind! I know this is way over your head. Go back to the rainbow blog where your favorite names Peanut and Biotch are thrown around more commonly.
Peanut?
Bitch?
Phag or 15 year old? You guys tell me!
September 3rd, 2009 at 12:45 pm
Tony Pashos could be available. We need to trade for him or hope we get him first on the waiver wire. Could immediately step in at RT and move to guard if need be.
September 3rd, 2009 at 12:49 pm
I hear you LMN …
I’ll just say catch one of the games if you can and you will see that RDE is without question #1 on the fix it now list. There is not one DT in the league that could fix that hole. And certainly not a rookie from this past draft class.
Please, just check out one of the games, OR listen to what EVERYONE is telling you about RDE.
September 3rd, 2009 at 12:49 pm
Has Cable been arrested yet?
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Rove will serve time before Cable!!1 lol
September 3rd, 2009 at 12:51 pm
How you anyone disagree that we need an anchor DT to free up Tommy Kelly and the linebackers?
September 3rd, 2009 at 12:52 pm
Could it be that the reason why our secondary (particularly the FS and SS positions) is a hinderance is because we haven’t had a decent pass rush in years? You pressure the QB, he makes ill advised throws which enables us to get breakups, INTS, etc.
when was the last time our Dline made you scared to attack us downfield?
September 3rd, 2009 at 12:53 pm
RaiderTW Says:
September 3rd, 2009 at 12:49 pm
Has Cable been arrested yet?
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Rove will serve time before Cable!!1 lol
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Man you have a one-track mind, lol. OCD?
September 3rd, 2009 at 12:54 pm
daraider09 Says:
September 3rd, 2009 at 12:51 pm
How you anyone disagree that we need an anchor DT to free up Tommy Kelly and the linebackers?
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Yes, Priesttj disagrees with you…maybe Jhill too.
September 3rd, 2009 at 12:54 pm
# jhill Says:
September 3rd, 2009 at 12:49 pm
I hear you LMN …
I’ll just say catch one of the games if you can and you will see that RDE is without question #1 on the fix it now list. There is not one DT in the league that could fix that hole. And certainly not a rookie from this past draft class.
Please, just check out one of the games, OR listen to what EVERYONE is telling you about RDE.
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cant see any of the preseason games, but if all games are sold out will see all raiders games…
September 3rd, 2009 at 12:58 pm
“Jerry, What is your biggest concern regarding the SD game as far as matchups go?”
Uhhh, everything?
September 3rd, 2009 at 12:59 pm
LOL! I love the brutal honesty from Jerry. No kool-aid sipping by him.
September 3rd, 2009 at 1:00 pm
I said earlier that a trade for Rogers or Willams would be an upgrade. I just think that RDE is a bigger priority.
September 3rd, 2009 at 1:03 pm
ohh worlds most expensive sportsman have arrived here in copenhagen… Christiano Ronaldo whom was bought for a stunning 131M dollars is now here with his fellow teammates of their national team…
September 3rd, 2009 at 1:04 pm
I asked Jerry if he gets free Big Macs now, thanks to our “posting too fast” error. But he is ducking the tough questions today…
September 3rd, 2009 at 1:04 pm
If all games are sold out?
I guess you’re asses out LMN. You might not see a single game.
There is a website some of the guys have been watching the games on. Maybe they can hook you up with that webiste.
September 3rd, 2009 at 1:06 pm
ohh sorry that was 130M dollars, sell 6 of him and you can buy the raiders… SIX times one person = an entire organization… WOW
September 3rd, 2009 at 1:07 pm
I asked Jerry if he gets free Big Macs now, But he is ducking the tough questions today…
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LOL!
might as well ask him how many Moon Pies russell likes to eat before a game…
September 3rd, 2009 at 1:07 pm
# jhill Says:
September 3rd, 2009 at 1:04 pm
If all games are sold out?
I guess you’re asses out LMN. You might not see a single game.
There is a website some of the guys have been watching the games on. Maybe they can hook you up with that webiste.
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trust me is it televised i will see it, have now for several years, i got the NFL internet package and I now all the pirate-site for sports… believe me =)
September 3rd, 2009 at 1:09 pm
LOL@uhhh everything
September 3rd, 2009 at 1:11 pm
*I KNOW all the pirate sites…
September 3rd, 2009 at 1:13 pm
Man you have a one-track mind, lol. OCD?
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You really are a credit to your party. Calling names, casting doubt on mental state, you would probably be shouting if this wasn’t a blog. What not calling me a naz!? The last bastion of the ineffectual.
September 3rd, 2009 at 1:16 pm
RaiderTW Says:
September 3rd, 2009 at 1:13 pm
Man you have a one-track mind, lol. OCD?
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You really are a credit to your party. Calling names, casting doubt on mental state, you would probably be shouting if this wasn’t a blog. What not calling me a naz!? The last bastion of the ineffectual.
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Dude, you need help…OCD is a serious disorder.
September 3rd, 2009 at 1:18 pm
Jerry dodged me all day today ohwell
September 3rd, 2009 at 1:18 pm
AZ you around???
September 3rd, 2009 at 1:21 pm
TW,
Does this…
http://www.synthstuff.com/mt/archives/medtees-ocd.jpg
September 3rd, 2009 at 1:24 pm
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shutdown_corner/post/You-know-the-Pacman-to-Canada-thing-Yeah-he-sc;_ylt=As_z44RlPeVpZYPqczCvCpI5nYcB?urn=nfl,187093
hahaha @ pacman he messed this whole thing up!!!
September 3rd, 2009 at 1:25 pm
The last bastion of the ineffectual.
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LMAO!
Dakota, you get your Cheney/Palin 2012 lawn sign yet?
September 3rd, 2009 at 1:26 pm
Bo, if Dick or Palin run in 2012, I may move to Canada.
September 3rd, 2009 at 1:26 pm
I may move to Canada.
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Can have your guns?????
September 3rd, 2009 at 1:27 pm
Or Gingrich/Delay 2012? Now there’s couple of natural born losers…
Paul DeLay?????
September 3rd, 2009 at 1:27 pm
Or Gingrich/Delay 2012? Now there’s couple of natural born losers…
September 3rd, 2009 at 1:27 pm
Is Bob Dole dead?
September 3rd, 2009 at 1:29 pm
braindead!
September 3rd, 2009 at 1:29 pm
Ross Perot is coming back!!!!!!
September 3rd, 2009 at 1:30 pm
you wont need 2 worry about after Dec.21st,2012
Myan calender huh??? thought that was 2013
September 3rd, 2009 at 1:30 pm
you wont need 2 worry about after Dec.21st,2012
September 3rd, 2009 at 1:31 pm
Ya, Jerry dogged me as well.
I asked him why he was a hater.
September 3rd, 2009 at 1:31 pm
sorry,i couldn’t resist.
September 3rd, 2009 at 1:32 pm
Dakota Says:
September 3rd, 2009 at 1:26 pm
Bo, if Dick or Palin run in 2012, I may move to Canada.
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Smart. You’ll need good health care after watching the Raiders and the Golden Domers for two more years.
September 3rd, 2009 at 1:33 pm
Dakota Says:
September 3rd, 2009 at 1:27 pm
Is Bob Dole dead?
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As dead as ever. I saw him interviewed recently.
September 3rd, 2009 at 1:34 pm
You’ll hate Canada, thaey have health care!
September 3rd, 2009 at 1:35 pm
The Canaidian Cubs!!!!!
September 3rd, 2009 at 1:37 pm
4eva, I vistited Chichen Itza (sp?) recently, down there in the mayan jungle.
It was explained that the 2012 marker is actually the end of a chapter, more or less, in world history. The Mayas broke stuff down mathematically, and they calculated cycles of 5000 years or so, based on their version of a century, like 58 years or something?
So, it’s possibly catastrophic, but not the end of the world, despite a lot of strange parrallels people have noticed between that “prophecy” and events scheduled for 2012.
September 3rd, 2009 at 1:43 pm
Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
September 3rd, 2009 at 1:32 pm
Dakota Says:
September 3rd, 2009 at 1:26 pm
Bo, if Dick or Palin run in 2012, I may move to Canada.
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Smart. You’ll need good health care after watching the Raiders and the Golden Domers for two more years.
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ND plays Michigan week 2? Remember when that used to mean something….
September 3rd, 2009 at 1:45 pm
jhill Says:
September 3rd, 2009 at 12:44 pm
Like I said, still here phaggin it up! Beggin for attention!
You know NOTHING about football so why even try? Your fantasy football logic doesn’t apply to the real game.
No Eugene sucks because … he sucks!
In addition, the Dline sucks!
See, your F’ing with the wrong guy. AGAIN!
Let’s poll football coaches and see if they would want a WR who constantly draws double teams. Wonder what they would say? I wonder if they would consider that an advantage.
You keepin up 9r guy?
I wonder if they would want like that to open up the underneath for a guy like Gore or Davis?
You still with me?
I wonder if Bruce would appreciate the single coverage?
Ehhhhh nevermind! I know this is way over your head. Go back to the rainbow blog where your favorite names Peanut and Biotch are thrown around more commonly.
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Oh stop whining like a slapped on little child, peanut.
Ask a coach if they want a WR who warrants double coverage?
THEY WANT A WIDE RECEIVER WHO CAN MAKE PLAYS..you know..ACTUALLY CATCH A BALL ON OCCASION.
See, in order to warrant double coverage, it means you’re a threat. You stupidly allude to Bey’s one jaunt down the sidelines, where it was obvious the dback drifted over..both Dbacks went for the ball. Bey? Guy did LIKE HE DID IN COLLEGE..watched others go for it.
Now, dumbass, like it or not, OVER 300 OTHER PLAYERS IN THE NFL HAVE BETTER NUMBERS than that probably bust, Bey.
No, peanut, he doesn’t get doubled..and yes, peanut, he has been useless.
Only a damn moron would run the “oh..well…he HASN’T CAUGHT A DAMN THING..but he’s doing just fine”.
and that moron would be you, peanut.
BTW, dumbass, the best WR of all time, Rice, got that tag while being doubled covered AND catching the ball.
EVERY great WR is double covered AND catches the ball.
Bey will never be in either category..and you? you’ll be making excuses..just like you do for everything that faulters with the Raiders.
September 3rd, 2009 at 1:47 pm
would you8 take hightower or maroney for Deshaun Jack?????
September 3rd, 2009 at 1:48 pm
Oak,
yeah, I’m here. Just stepped out for a minute.
September 3rd, 2009 at 1:49 pm
Dakota Says:
September 3rd, 2009 at 1:43 pm
Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
September 3rd, 2009 at 1:32 pm
Dakota Says:
September 3rd, 2009 at 1:26 pm
Bo, if Dick or Palin run in 2012, I may move to Canada.
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Smart. You’ll need good health care after watching the Raiders and the Golden Domers for two more years.
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ND plays Michigan week 2? Remember when that used to mean something….
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is Tony Rice and Desmond Howard playing?
September 3rd, 2009 at 1:50 pm
You’ll all hate for this, I’m sure, but Richochet is right about at least one thing. The greats all got doubled and still made plays.
I’m sure we’d all like to see more out of DHB.
I wonder if he’s going to be as good as any receivers on your team.
Oh, wait – who was that again?
September 3rd, 2009 at 1:51 pm
Broncos are in trouble of being one of the teams being blackedout at home.
September 3rd, 2009 at 1:52 pm
OAKlifer Says:
September 3rd, 2009 at 12:43 pm
[Comment From termite]
i’m sorry, as much as i wanted to see russell get it going, i just don’t think he thinks fast enough to play in the nfl and be a star. he has the strength, but not the quickness of mind it appears. agree or disagree?
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One time I would like to hear some one back up this arugment….and dont give me the ohhh listen to hin talk BS either…….
I CALL BS
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And I call dumber than cotton.
It’s a fact that even after the FIRST FULL YEAR WITH THE TEAM, Russell still couldn’t grasp the playbook.
don’t know about you, but that’s not exactly conducive to talks of “being bright”.
Was common knowledge that the playbook had to be dumbed down for Russell..as Kiffin put it “keep things simple for him, for a while”.
Here’s a reality check for you.
Listening to someone talk DOES reflect on how they play. If you stumble and mutter your way through a simple conversation, needing time to formulate thoughts, it’s a good indication you need that “extra time” while reading defenses.
You, of all posters here, should know about the “needing time to formulate thoughts”..right, Lifer?
tell you what.
You and jhill pool your thoughts, and see if you can muster up just once cohesive comment..just for fun.
Should be a hoot
September 3rd, 2009 at 1:53 pm
John Thune 2012!
September 3rd, 2009 at 1:54 pm
AZ Raider Says:
September 3rd, 2009 at 1:48 pm
Oak,
yeah, I’m here. Just stepped out for a minute.
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And how, exactly, would anyone know the difference?
Void in, void out.
September 3rd, 2009 at 1:54 pm
Dakota Says:
John Thune 2012!
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I wanna see his birth certificate, damnit!!!
September 3rd, 2009 at 1:54 pm
LA to TheBay Says:
September 3rd, 2009 at 1:50 pm
You’ll all hate for this, I’m sure, but Richochet is right about at least one thing. The greats all got doubled and still made plays.
I’m sure we’d all like to see more out of DHB.
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DON’T tell that to jhill…geeez…guy’s already a basket case trying to justify Bey’s lack of contribution.
As far as you’d all like to see more out of DHB???
don’t you mean to say “Would be nice to see ANYTHING out of DHB”?
September 3rd, 2009 at 1:54 pm
Good news for me lefty, that way I’ll see the Raiders instead, hahaha!
September 3rd, 2009 at 1:55 pm
LA to TheBay Says:
September 3rd, 2009 at 1:50 pm
You’ll all hate for this, I’m sure, but Richochet is right about at least one thing. The greats all got doubled and still made plays.
I’m sure we’d all like to see more out of DHB.
I wonder if he’s going to be as good as any receivers on your team.
Oh, wait – who was that again?
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True…Randy Moss isn’t going to the HOF because he pulled the safety over…he is going to the HOF because he pulled the safety over and STILL made plays.
Haven’t seen any indication that DHB is capable of that yet….but it is way too early to panic on a rookie WR, they sometimes take years to develop (which is why we never should have drafted him in the first place, but that is a different argument).
September 3rd, 2009 at 1:55 pm
TW,so are NO and a whole lot of other teams,heard that on the radio yesterday.
September 3rd, 2009 at 1:57 pm
Russell has a similar problem that Favre has.
He trusts his arm too much. Its not that he’s slow, it’s that he locks onto a receiver and wants to gun it to him. Favre trusts his arm enough to try and fit balls into tight coverage, which is why he has the all time record in picks as well as TDs.
Russell doesn’t throw a lot of picks. He’s solid when he moves through his progressions, but was forced to do a lot of checking down. Now that he has help on the outside, this area of his game will improve.
Besides, if you gotta check down, DMC and Miller are two guys that are more than capable of making plays after the catch.
September 3rd, 2009 at 1:58 pm
Listening to someone talk DOES reflect on how they play. If you stumble and mutter your way through a simple conversation, needing time to formulate thoughts, it’s a good indication you need that “extra time” while reading defenses.
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Stupids thing I ve heard tell Larence taylor that Terry bradshaw Emmit Smith Mike Tyson none of these guys caould form a sentence to save thier lives you are a doormat in here!!!!
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“Was common knowledge that the playbook had to be dumbed down for Russell..as Kiffin put it “keep things simple for him, for a while”.
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Again Lance hated the Russell pick and and wanted to coach in college so he got him self fired by running the dink and dunk…and back talking Davis you have no clue my friend….no clue…
PS Bo Jackson Stutered as well and was from the souht and actually sounded worse than Russell….but you prob dnt even know who that is ohwell…
September 3rd, 2009 at 2:00 pm
Check it out…
*Rackoshyt says…
“Cut and Paste! Cut and Paste! My Name is Richochet!
Cut and Paste! Cut and Paste! My mom thinks I am gay!”
“I love to come to this here board where the men are big and strong!”
I post some really stupid stuff and get slapped here all day long.”
“For I love Michael Crabtree! He’s my favorite 49′er.
He whipped me with his penis once and gave me a lovely shiner.”
“Been so long since have I’ve seen him. My dreams they are a crashin’.
He’s got the greatest football skills but I really miss his fashion.”
“I’m hoping that The Raider Fans will help me grow a sack.
And hoping Mr. Crabtree will help me paint it Silver & Black…”
September 3rd, 2009 at 2:00 pm
Mohammad Ali
Mohammad Ali was a light heavyweight boxing champion. He overcame dyslexia to learn to read and write when he was younger. He sponsored with Scholastic, in the hopes of introducing and encouraging reading, especially in boys.
Magic Johnson
Magic Johnson played basketball for the LA Lakers. During his first season he won a championship and a MVP award. During his career he has achieved five NBA championships, three MVP Awards among other awards. He was also a member of USA’s Dream Team during the Olympics of 1992. Magic Johnson has dyslexia and remembers, “”The looks, the stares, the giggles…I wanted to show everybody that I could do better and also that I could read.” [3].
Bro Speaking in public has nothing to do with anything You again are a doormat in here..
September 3rd, 2009 at 2:00 pm
Hey little ricky douche bag. How’s crabtree lookin’? Oh I frogot, he won’t be playing this season… LOL…
September 3rd, 2009 at 2:00 pm
Just in…Vick will be allowed to play in the 3rd regular season game…
…glad he is not opening against the Raiders…last thing we need is to have Vick run for 200 yards against our mighty D while EVERYONE is watching…by week six, hopefully the media circus will have simmered down a bit…
September 3rd, 2009 at 2:02 pm
Hey little ricky douche bag.
DOORMAT
is there one poster in here that even likes you??? Even MR and NArco own you when your in here!!!
DOORMAT
September 3rd, 2009 at 2:06 pm
go ahead racko let form ur arugement for you
1. I dnt hit spell check so you think Im illiterate
2. Al is old an senile
3. Jhill and I are dumber than cotton..
ect…your soo readable bro!!!!!
DOORMAT!!!!
September 3rd, 2009 at 2:07 pm
OAKlifer Says:
September 3rd, 2009 at 1:47 pm
would you8 take hightower or maroney for Deshaun Jack?????
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Na, sorry Oak. If I’m gonna do a trade it has to be for a RB that is gonna be very productive. I’m even willing to give up Moss for a good RB. Wells is gonna be doing most of the damage for AZ IMO and Maroney, well we know what kind of #’s NE backs put up. D. Jackson is too valuable to me, even if not to others. He gonna be da man this year IMO AND return punts
September 3rd, 2009 at 2:08 pm
As usual, actual facts mean nothing to the 9r guy. Is there one person in here who said DHB is going to be great? Jerry Rice comparisons? Really? Is that where your bar is? You expect him to be as good as your best WR ever?
WHAT THE FUGG ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?
Nothing, as usual.
September 3rd, 2009 at 2:09 pm
OAKlifer Says:
September 3rd, 2009 at 1:47 pm
would you8 take hightower or maroney for Deshaun Jack?????
AZ Raider Says:
September 3rd, 2009 at 1:48 pm
Oak,
yeah, I’m here. Just stepped out for a minute
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Weird this has been happing My response got posted b4 your comment………
September 3rd, 2009 at 2:09 pm
Na, sorry Oak.
Cool bro…..Its all good D jack will be tha Bomb your right!!
September 3rd, 2009 at 2:10 pm
Jerry says:
“It’d be nice to see the first teams have a good series after the saints debacle, but it really doesn’t matter much. Just don’t get anyone hurt.”
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I totally agree. I don’t even care if they have a good series. They shouldn’t even be playing. Especially JaMarcus, McFadden and Zach Miler, Gallery and Henderson. Just please, please, please don’t get anyone hurt. Quick hook tonight, Tommy.
September 3rd, 2009 at 2:13 pm
I would bet we see a lot of our bubble WRs tonight. Looking forward to seeing what Nick Miller can do.
If Holland takes another one to the house, I think lil man is gone.
September 3rd, 2009 at 2:16 pm
Russell scored a 24 on the wonderlic…
Crabtree scored a 15…which means he is legally retarded, which also might explain his belief that he should be paid like a top five pick when he was drafted at 10.
September 3rd, 2009 at 2:16 pm
LA to TheBay Says:
September 3rd, 2009 at 2:13 pm
I would bet we see a lot of our bubble WRs tonight. Looking forward to seeing what Nick Miller can do.
If Holland takes another one to the house, I think lil man is gone.
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LOL The Saints gave us that TD. I could have made that play for a TD. Holland is as good as gone, and if Nick doesn’t make the team, I’ll be pretty bummed.
September 3rd, 2009 at 2:17 pm
Crabtree went to Texas Tech correct? One of my former college professors believes she was fired from Texas Tech for refusing to give Bam Morris a passing grade in a class.
September 3rd, 2009 at 2:19 pm
Dakota Says:
September 3rd, 2009 at 2:17 pm
Crabtree went to Texas Tech correct? One of my former college professors believes she was fired from Texas Tech for refusing to give Bam Morris a passing grade in a class.
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Crabtree is a complete idiot. Even dumber than Richochet…
September 3rd, 2009 at 2:19 pm
Dakota Says:
September 3rd, 2009 at 2:16 pm
Russell scored a 24 on the wonderlic…
Crabtree scored a 15…which means he is legally retarded, which also might explain his belief that he should be paid like a top five pick when he was drafted at 10.
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Yup, Crabtree is pretty dumb…
September 3rd, 2009 at 2:27 pm
Nick Miller has more upside that Holland. Holland got lucky on that one catch for the TD. Defender slipped on the INFIELD. For once that ugly thing works to our advantage. Did I mention that I hate the infield?
September 3rd, 2009 at 2:27 pm
Some WR Wonderlic Scores…not conclusive, but there sure seems to be some knuckleheads towards the bottom…and Crabtree isn’t helping their cause…
Boldin 31
Gonzalez 29
Braylon Edwards 27
M. Colston 26
J. Gage 25
Lee Evans 24
Calvin Johnson 23
Greg Jennings 18
Roddy White 17
Roy Williams 17
Dwayne Bowe 15
Crabtree 15
A. Johnson 14
B. Marshall 13
J. Walker 7
Chris Henry 7
September 3rd, 2009 at 2:28 pm
AZ Raider Says:
September 3rd, 2009 at 2:19 pm
Dakota Says:
September 3rd, 2009 at 2:17 pm
Crabtree went to Texas Tech correct? One of my former college professors believes she was fired from Texas Tech for refusing to give Bam Morris a passing grade in a class.
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Crabtree is a complete idiot. Even dumber than Richochet…
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Ok, maybe not that dumb. Even if he’s retarded enough to have proffessors fake scores for him, I’m not sure anyone is on the same level as richochet.
September 3rd, 2009 at 2:30 pm
Can anyone answer me this… Have the Raiders ever played any home games at Stanford Stadium or at Cal? Seem to remember that for some reason.
September 3rd, 2009 at 2:34 pm
DHB only scored a 14…lol
September 3rd, 2009 at 2:35 pm
You can say the Saints gave it to us, but the fact is, Holland made a few moves on that play and got us in the end zone on a day where that was looking extremely unlikely.
Miller stumbles, I think they like Holland. Kept him around this long.
I’m rooting for Nick, though.
But the real beauty of the Crabtree mess is that it’s primarily because of Al Davis.
Davis saw something or several things he didn’t like about Crabtree, passed him up and took the speedster at #7.
Crabtree is insulted and shocked he wasn’t taken higher or at least #7. Now he’s sitting out until he gets DHB money, which he won’t. As much as SF needs him, I doubt they’ll cave. They’ll just as soon take it on the chin and move on.
If Crabtree decides to sit and enter the 2010 draft, it’ll be the dumbest decision siince Maurice Clarette trying to get in early.
Meanwhile, DHB got to camp after missing, what, two ‘learning intensive’ practices? He’ll play opening night on MNF.
Even if DHB turns in a 20 catch, 300 yard year, it’ll be 20 more catches and 300 yards more than Crabtree will have if he continues to be an idiot.
September 3rd, 2009 at 2:47 pm
“They’ll just as soon take it on the chin and move on.”
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Isn’t that what the 9er’s have always been good at?
September 3rd, 2009 at 2:52 pm
I hope they were out partying and stayed out until 3 a.m. At least that would be a viable excuse and something they probably won’t do in the regular season. If they were well-rested and prepared and came out and played like that, it’s another 11-plus losses.
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Interesting point Jerry…
September 3rd, 2009 at 2:53 pm
No More Infield or Trolls Says:
September 3rd, 2009 at 2:30 pm
Can anyone answer me this… Have the Raiders ever played any home games at Stanford Stadium or at Cal? Seem to remember that for some reason.
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No, walnetto.
they did, however, play at Candlestick.
September 3rd, 2009 at 2:53 pm
909RaiderLifer Says:
September 3rd, 2009 at 2:47 pm
“They’ll just as soon take it on the chin and move on.”
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Isn’t that what the 9er’s have always been good at?
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Last I recall the Niners have been good at stockpiling Super Bowl trophies.
Also been good at selling out all of their home games for the last 27 years..straight.
Also been pretty good at owning the Bay, and leaving the Raiders in their dust, something to the tune of the ugly redheaded step sister, oft neglected, never taken seriously.
September 3rd, 2009 at 3:00 pm
LA to TheBay Says:
September 3rd, 2009 at 2:35 pm
You can say the Saints gave it to us, but the fact is, Holland made a few moves on that play and got us in the end zone on a day where that was looking extremely unlikely.
Miller stumbles, I think they like Holland. Kept him around this long.
I’m rooting for Nick, though.
But the real beauty of the Crabtree mess is that it’s primarily because of Al Davis.
Davis saw something or several things he didn’t like about Crabtree, passed him up and took the speedster at #7.
Crabtree is insulted and shocked he wasn’t taken higher or at least #7. Now he’s sitting out until he gets DHB money, which he won’t. As much as SF needs him, I doubt they’ll cave. They’ll just as soon take it on the chin and move on.
If Crabtree decides to sit and enter the 2010 draft, it’ll be the dumbest decision siince Maurice Clarette trying to get in early.
Meanwhile, DHB got to camp after missing, what, two ‘learning intensive’ practices? He’ll play opening night on MNF.
Even if DHB turns in a 20 catch, 300 yard year, it’ll be 20 more catches and 300 yards more than Crabtree will have if he continues to be an idiot.
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Oh geez..it’s almost if you have a ‘ABUSE ME’ sign on your back.
Sure..why not.
Let’s just go right to the dumbest comment of the post..the “Even if he only has” comment.
Dude..do you even think before you post? I mean..lol..WTF?
The Raiders can barely afford things as it is..and here you’re saying “he’s GUARANTEED 23 MILLION..so..even if he does absolutely squat, it’s still better than the Niners not paying a guy who wanted more money.
think about it..DUMB..uber dumb.
And Al Davis saw something? LMFAO..are you new at this?
Al sees SPEED..and THAT’S IT. Nothing more, nothing less.
Bey-FAST..can’t catch..did nothing in college..but he’s FAST. So what? He’s STILL done nothing.
Fastest guy in COLLEGE?? Who wasn’t even a force?? Doesn’t that tell you something?
Here..LET ME HELP.
Bey’s coaches? IN COLLEGE??? Suggested he GIVE UP FOOTBALL AND STICK TO TRACK.
Need anything else?
September 3rd, 2009 at 3:06 pm
“Cut and Paste! Cut and Paste! My Name is Richochet!
Cut and Paste! Cut and Paste! My mom thinks I am gay!”
“I love to come to this here board where the men are big and strong!”
I post some really stupid stuff and get slapped here all day long.”
“For I love Michael Crabtree! He’s my favorite 49′er.
He whipped me with his penis once and gave me a lovely shiner.”
“Been so long since have I’ve seen him. My dreams they are a crashin’.
He’s got the greatest football skills but I really miss his fashion.”
“I’m hoping that The Raider Fans will help me grow a sack.
And hoping Mr. Crabtree will help me paint it Silver & Black…”
September 3rd, 2009 at 3:07 pm
Despite reports that he was signing in Carolina, free agent DT Alfonso Boone is scheduled to meet with the Raiders.Perhaps the Panthers weren’t sold on a player junked by the Chiefs? Oakland is expected to offer him a contract and are now considered the favorites to sign the run-stopping tackle.http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/Biggs-Oakland-bringing-in-DT-Boone-likely-to-offer-contract.html
September 3rd, 2009 at 3:08 pm
Recently released G/C Sean Mahan is scheduled to meet with the Raiders.It’s indictment of Samson Satele, who hasn’t been able to beat out John Wade this summer. If Mahan signed with Oakland, he could end up starting later in the season.
September 3rd, 2009 at 3:08 pm
5 titles to 3? And we’ve been back to the big game this decade.
Don’t forget 77 AFC finals, Immaculate Reception, 00 AFC Finals, and 01 AFC Divisional.
Denied the opportunity to get to the Big Game.
September 3rd, 2009 at 3:09 pm
I love it.
You guys set yourselves up FOR ME. 
AZ Raider Says:
September 3rd, 2009 at 2:19 pm
Dakota Says:
September 3rd, 2009 at 2:16 pm
Russell scored a 24 on the wonderlic…
Crabtree scored a 15…which means he is legally retarded, which also might explain his belief that he should be paid like a top five pick when he was drafted at 10.
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Yup, Crabtree is pretty dumb…
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Well then..let’s see what that ‘15″ got him..
Recognition
Michael Crabtree has received multiple honors. In addition to being a two-time unanimous first-team All-American, he is a two-time Biletnikoff Award and Paul Warfield Award winner.
Season Honor Status Notes
2007 All-Big 12 Selected for first team
2007 AFCA Coaches’ All-America Selected One of two wide receivers selected; first Freshman to earn the honor since Herschel Walker in 1980[26]
2007 AP All-America Selected for first team Garnered Unanimous All-America status by being selected for a fifth NCAA-recognized All-America team
2007 AP Big 12 Offensive Newcomer of the Year Selected [29][30]
2007 AT&T ESPN All-America Player of the Year Winner First freshman to win the award[31]
2007 Biletnikoff Award Winner First freshman and first Big 12 player ever chosen for the honor[32]
2007 CBSSports.com All-America Selected to first team [33]
2007 CBSSports.com Freshman of the Year Selected Unanimous first place selection[34]
2007 ESPN All-America Selected [35]
2007 FWAA All-America Selected for team [36]
2007 Maxwell Award Chosen as a semifinalist Only freshman chosen as semifinalist in 2007[37][38]
2007 Paul Warfield Award Winner [33]
2007 Rivals.com National Freshman of the Year Selected
2007 SI.com All-America Selected for first team [40]
2007 Sporting News All-America Selected for first team Garnered Consensus All-America status by being selected for a third NCAA-recognized All-America team[41]
2007 Sporting News Big 12 All-Freshman Team Selected [42]
2007 Touchdown Club of Columbus Freshman of the Year Selected [33]
2007 Walter Camp All-America Selected for first team [43]
2008 Playboy All-America Selected [44]
2008 Preseason All-Big 12 Selected for first team Only unanimous selection[45][46]
2008 All-Big 12 Selected for first team Only offensive unanimous selection[47]
2008 AFCA Coaches’ All-America Selected One of three returnees from last year’s list[48]
2008 Biletnikoff Award Winner First ever two-time winner[49]
2008 Walter Camp All-America Selected for first team [50]
2008 FWAA All-America Selected for team Garnered Consensus All-America status by being selected for a third NCAA-recognized All-America team[51]
2008 SI.com All-America Selected for first team [52]
2008 AP All-America Selected for first team [53]
2008 Sporting News All-America Selected for first team Garnered Unanimous All-America status by being selected for a fifth NCAA-recognized All-America team[54]
2008 Paul Warfield Award Winner
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Is there ANY AWARD CRABTREE DIDN’T GET?
read it an weep, nits.
Raiderfan “sniff….sniff…but…uh…but Bey is in camp… wahhhhhhhhhhhh”
Lol..yeah..I know. In camp, with 23 mil..DOING SQUAT.
September 3rd, 2009 at 3:10 pm
Al Davis saw Tim Brown.
September 3rd, 2009 at 3:10 pm
“Is there ANY AWARD CRABTREE DIDN’T GET?”
Yeah, NFL Rookie of the Year.
September 3rd, 2009 at 3:11 pm
TO GIVE EQUAL BILLING:
We present the list of award given to Darrius Heyward-Bey:
1. He spent 2005 on redshirt status. In 2006, he ran a 4.23-second 40-yard dash, which set the school record for a wide receiver
Yes, ROFLMFAO…thanks Az..couldn’t have done it without you and Dakota stupidly setting this up.
September 3rd, 2009 at 3:15 pm
Knew you would take the bait. Vermin like you are to easy to trap. Keep trying though, you are an amusing one, little 9er troll…
September 3rd, 2009 at 3:16 pm
LA to TheBay Says:
September 3rd, 2009 at 3:10 pm
“Is there ANY AWARD CRABTREE DIDN’T GET?”
Yeah, NFL Rookie of the Year.
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In other words, NO..there isn’t any college awards, given out, for WR’s, that Craptree didn’t own?
As far as NFL Rookie of the Year?
Would that be your worst nightmare, or what?
Raider fans would NEVER live that down..
Hell..as it is..you have Bey and Murphy that will be laughed at for years..but letting Crabtree go to the cross bay Niners?
Yep…poetry
September 3rd, 2009 at 3:17 pm
Richochet,
Don’t worry, maybe your 9ers can draft Crabtree again next season…in the second round (and he’ll still want top five money, lol)
September 3rd, 2009 at 3:18 pm
“Let’s just go right to the dumbest comment of the post..the “Even if he only has” comment.
Dude..do you even think before you post? I mean..lol..WTF?
The Raiders can barely afford things as it is..and here you’re saying “he’s GUARANTEED 23 MILLION..so..even if he does absolutely squat, it’s still better than the Niners not paying a guy who wanted more money.
think about it..DUMB..uber dumb.”
No, my point is if Crabtree sits, he contributes nothing. The 49ers wasted a draft pick wheras the Raiders got exactly who they wanted. Whether you like him or not means nothing.
Bottom line:
Crabtree: $0.00, 0 catches
49ers: Wasted #10 overall pick
DHB: Millionaire
Raiders: Used #7 overall pick on a controversial choice.
And you don’t know that DHB won’t be the better NFL WR.
Oh, wait, everyone who does well in college goes on to have a great NFL career, right?
September 3rd, 2009 at 3:19 pm
jhill Says:
September 3rd, 2009 at 2:08 pm
As usual, actual facts mean nothing to the 9r guy. Is there one person in here who said DHB is going to be great? Jerry Rice comparisons? Really? Is that where your bar is? You expect him to be as good as your best WR ever?
WHAT THE FUGG ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?
Nothing, as usual.
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Quit acting stupid (maybe it’s not an act)
Others knew exactly what it meant.
They also knew I was going to slap your sorryass down with a reply.
I’ll keep it simple, considering you being of simple mind.
Best WR OF ALL TIME was double covered. Holds most of the records.
In other words, you dumbass, YOUR WHINE ABOUT BEY IS HE CAN’T GET OPEN BECAUSE HE’S DOUBLE COVERED.
YOUR WHINE ABOUT BEY IS HE HASN’T CAUGHT ANY BALLS BECAUSE HE’S DOUBLE COVERED.
YOUR WHINE ABOUT BEY IS HE IS DOING ‘HIS JOB’.
Even LA to Bay stated “yes, he should STILL be catching balls”.
No, peanut, he’ll never be confused with Rice, or even an NFL WR, at this point.
If you weren’t so damn stupid, I wouldn’t need to be wasting space here explaining the simplest of things.
Now, get back to making excuses. Fools live for that.
September 3rd, 2009 at 3:22 pm
Dakota Says:
September 3rd, 2009 at 3:17 pm
Richochet,
Don’t worry, maybe your 9ers can draft Crabtree again next season…in the second round (and he’ll still want top five money, lol)
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I’m sorry, Dakota..you posted something about Crabtree’s 15?
Nothing on his list?? lol…thought not.
How about Bey’s list?
September 3rd, 2009 at 3:23 pm
Wonder if Al is going to want one for his golf cart?
http://twitpic.com/g7xr4
September 3rd, 2009 at 3:27 pm
I wonder if the Raiders are looking at Alfonso Boone for DT or RDE. He can play anywhere along the DLine but he specializes at DT.
September 3rd, 2009 at 3:28 pm
This shyt just chokes all the hope out of me
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The skinny
The Raiders dominated the AFL for much of the 1960s and the NFL during the 1970s. But based on just about every yardstick of competence the franchise has been terrible this decade. The Raiders are in the bottom third of the league in player costs-per-win, winning percentage and brand value. Much of the decline in the franchise has been due to bad draft picks and expensive free-agent signings that have not panned out. Team owner Al Davis, who is 80 and in poor health, has failed to get the new stadium he so badly needs and has angered many fans and politicians with lawsuits and transporting his team from Oakland to Los Angeles and then back to Oakland. Whoever succeeds Davis as managing partner has a lot of rebuilding to do.
http://www.forbes.com/lists/2009/30/football-values-09_Oakland-Raiders_300874.html
September 3rd, 2009 at 3:30 pm
LA to TheBay Says:
September 3rd, 2009 at 3:18 pm
“Let’s just go right to the dumbest comment of the post..the “Even if he only has” comment.
Dude..do you even think before you post? I mean..lol..WTF?
The Raiders can barely afford things as it is..and here you’re saying “he’s GUARANTEED 23 MILLION..so..even if he does absolutely squat, it’s still better than the Niners not paying a guy who wanted more money.
think about it..DUMB..uber dumb.”
No, my point is if Crabtree sits, he contributes nothing. The 49ers wasted a draft pick wheras the Raiders got exactly who they wanted. Whether you like him or not means nothing.
Bottom line:
Crabtree: $0.00, 0 catches
49ers: Wasted #10 overall pick
DHB: Millionaire
Raiders: Used #7 overall pick on a controversial choice.
And you don’t know that DHB won’t be the better NFL WR.
Oh, wait, everyone who does well in college goes on to have a great NFL career, right?
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Haven’t seen anyone YET who SUCKED in college that goes on to have a stellar NFL career, have you?
So, again, 23 million and so far? Nothing.
Crabtree..hasn’t signed..obviously contributed nothing.
And who, IN YOUR OPINION, is ahead, at this point?
You know damn well who is, and it’s not the Raiders.
What’s the worst that can happen? NINERS GET AN EXTRA #1 PICK NEXT YEAR..or Crabtree signs..soon (my money says before the weekend is out..because..after all..the FOLLOWING MONDAY MORNING IS PAYDAY#1..doubt he’ll want to miss out on 1/17th of his pay check.
that would be dumb, right (See some guy named Russell for that distinction)
Like it or not, a nonproducing #7 pick, that is guaranteed 23 mil?
How can you be ok with that? Just because Al the Bard said ‘oh goody, he’s fast..I like fast”?
September 3rd, 2009 at 3:33 pm
909RaiderLifer Says:
September 3rd, 2009 at 3:15 pm
Knew you would take the bait. Vermin like you are to easy to trap. Keep trying though, you are an amusing one, little 9er troll…
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Let me see if I have this right.
You make a stupid comment.
I then take that comment and use it to humble and embarrass you, and your team.
and then you lay down in a fetal position, and say “Thank you sir, may I have another”??
Boy..is this fun…or what?
September 3rd, 2009 at 3:37 pm
You guys happily go on talking about back-up DT’s, who’s gonna make the 53 man roster, Michael Crabtree. And I can’t get no one to feel my pain. Where’s the fans who truly care about the Raiders?
Do you really think any back up tackle is going to make ANY fukkin difference, when this is going on???
Only two NFL teams are unprofitable: the Seattle Seahawks, who lost $2.4 million, and the biggest loser of them all, the Oakland Raiders. Al Davis’ once wondrous franchise is now the least valuable NFL club at a “mere” $797 million, plus the Raiders had the biggest operating loss in the league at $5.7 million.
Los Angeles Times
September 3rd, 2009 at 3:37 pm
Who cares what the Raiders are worth? Al’s not selling the team anyway. Its like your house. It may be worth less but it doesnt matter unless you plan to see sometime soon.
September 3rd, 2009 at 3:37 pm
Lol, Al does like speed.
The fastest Crabtree ever ran was to his agent’s office to try and get him top 5 money when he was drafted at 10. The only thing he caught so far in the NFL – reputation as a fool and a prima donna. Oh, and maybe VD from some dude in the Castro.
I don’t know much about the Wonderlic, but I do know Crabtree’s an idiot.
The whole league recognizes this.
September 3rd, 2009 at 3:38 pm
…sell sometime soon.
September 3rd, 2009 at 3:39 pm
Richochet,
Only a 12 year old would think that a college player’s resume makes him a great NFL prospect. Is your real name Ty Detmer?
September 3rd, 2009 at 3:39 pm
What the Fuk does Crabtree have to do with the Raiders well-being???
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The skinny
The Raiders dominated the AFL for much of the 1960s and the NFL during the 1970s. But based on just about every yardstick of competence the franchise has been terrible this decade. The Raiders are in the bottom third of the league in player costs-per-win, winning percentage and brand value. Much of the decline in the franchise has been due to bad draft picks and expensive free-agent signings that have not panned out. Team owner Al Davis, who is 80 and in poor health, has failed to get the new stadium he so badly needs and has angered many fans and politicians with lawsuits and transporting his team from Oakland to Los Angeles and then back to Oakland. Whoever succeeds Davis as managing partner has a lot of rebuilding to do.
http://www.forbes.com/lists/2009/30/football-values-09_Oakland-Raiders_300874.html
September 3rd, 2009 at 3:39 pm
Dakota Says:
September 3rd, 2009 at 1:26 pm
Bo, if Dick or Palin run in 2012, I may move to Canada.
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# RaiderTW Says:
September 3rd, 2009 at 1:34 pm
You’ll hate Canada, thaey have health care!
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Bwahahahahha Dakota in Canada, well he can take his guns with him, but only at a shooting range…. Poor Dakota, he’ll end up a socia1ist…
September 3rd, 2009 at 3:40 pm
Raidertay Says:
September 3rd, 2009 at 3:37 pm
Who cares what the Raiders are worth? Al’s not selling the team anyway. Its like your house. It may be worth less but it doesnt matter unless you plan to see sometime soon.
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Do you fukkin care at all about the Raiders, or do you just wanna be some kind of Raider Bad-boy? That you heard about?
September 3rd, 2009 at 3:42 pm
KK,
Chill out Bro. Why do you care how much the Raiders are worth? Is that going to make them win the AFC West this year? The only person who should care is Mark Davis.
September 3rd, 2009 at 3:42 pm
why is it that dumb arses and niner fans want to blame the raiders for Crabtree’s stupidity, we picked who we wanted at #7, they picked crabtree at 10 not in the top 5 but at ten all other teams passed him on the way to 10 also, if he holds out he will not be in the top 10 next year and lose even more money, i don’t care if he thinks or is better than DHB, he got picked at 10 # f…ing 10 that is it, now deal with it, you got another TO, i’m glad the raiders didn’t pick the prima donna, now back to the raiders no one’s castoff’s will help this run defense the only thing that will help them is if our offense runs the ball kills the clock and scores, otherwise it will be a long season..see yall monday night……..
September 3rd, 2009 at 3:42 pm
Raidertay Says:
September 3rd, 2009 at 3:37 pm
Who cares what the Raiders are worth? Al’s not selling the team anyway. Its like your house. It may be worth less but it doesnt matter unless you plan to see sometime soon.
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WTF are you talking about? The Raiders actually lost money last year
Only two NFL teams are unprofitable: the Seattle Seahawks, who lost $2.4 million, and the biggest loser of them all, the Oakland Raiders. Al Davis’ once wondrous franchise is now the least valuable NFL club at a “mere” $797 million, plus the Raiders had the biggest operating loss in the league at $5.7 million.
Los Angeles Times
September 3rd, 2009 at 3:42 pm
Raider-Bad Boy??? What does that mean. Do you have your 401k invested in the Raiders or somethin?? As soon as they start winning guess what they will be worth a whole lot more. Besides Forbes doesnt know sh!t anyway.
September 3rd, 2009 at 3:45 pm
Pull your heads out of your arses you gawdamned idiots!
The Raiders are setting NFL losing records!!!!!!!!
September 3rd, 2009 at 3:46 pm
Did you really need Forbes to tell you that the teams that win are doing well. They cant be mad at tix sells after 6 straight losing season.
September 3rd, 2009 at 3:46 pm
KoolKell Says:
September 3rd, 2009 at 3:45 pm
Pull your heads out of your arses you gawdamned idiots!
The Raiders are setting NFL losing records!!!!!!!!
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Did the light bulb just go on. Where have you been for the last six years???
September 3rd, 2009 at 3:47 pm
Kell has a point. We love the team, obviously, but the organization is suffering.
Of course all that changes if we win. To do that, the OLine and DLine need to be addressed.
QB, WR, RB, TE set.
Need to fix the trenches.
September 3rd, 2009 at 3:50 pm
Richochet,
All of Crabtree’s awards are going to make for one impressive writeup in the media guide … for whatever team picks Crabtree in next year’s draft.
September 3rd, 2009 at 3:51 pm
KK,
The only reason the Raiders lost money last season…
Walker
Harris
Hall
Carter
Wilson
Otherwise they would have turned a huge profit…as most NFL teams do since the TV contract is large enough that when divided between all the teams, it covers the entire salary cap…
September 3rd, 2009 at 3:52 pm
With Walker and others taking big pay-cuts for this year,these pay-cuts dont show up until next,I would imagine…I wonder if that was taken into account
September 3rd, 2009 at 3:53 pm
G/C Sean Mahan is scheduled to meet with the Raiders.
It’s indictment of Samson Satele, who hasn’t been able to beat out John Wade this summer. If Mahan signed with Oakland, he could end up starting later in the season.
September 3rd, 2009 at 3:54 pm
I’d like to see Walker put in work tonight.
It would be something to see him pan out, considering the disaster that was his 2008 season.
September 3rd, 2009 at 3:55 pm
Walker
Harris
Hall
Carter
Wilson
Worst free agent class/acquisitions in the history of the NFL?
September 3rd, 2009 at 3:55 pm
Besides Forbes doesnt know sh!t anyway.
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Are you really that stupid, or what?
September 3rd, 2009 at 3:56 pm
Check out D. White:
Al spent $180k on the Raiders in 1966 and now they are ONLY worth $797 million. Trust me bro, Al’s not going to be collecting unemployment anytime soon. Is the Bank going to foreclose on the Raiders or something. Al’s not doing as bad as the rest of country.
September 3rd, 2009 at 4:00 pm
Might want 2 add Lelie also 2 that class
September 3rd, 2009 at 4:01 pm
By EVERY FREAKIN MEASUREMENT THE RAIDERS ARE FAILING. You dense ass idiots.
“Trust me bro, Al’s not going to be collecting unemployment anytime soon.”
Jeezus fuking Chriest! It’s not about Al you dumbass. It’s about WINNING. I guess most of you don’t know anything about that!
September 3rd, 2009 at 4:02 pm
raidertay Says:
September 3rd, 2009 at 3:56 pm
Check out D. White:
Al spent $180k on the Raiders in 1966 and now they are ONLY worth $797 million. Trust me bro, Al’s not going to be collecting unemployment anytime soon. Is the Bank going to foreclose on the Raiders or something. Al’s not doing as bad as the rest of country.
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Al better sell before Obama jacks up the capital gains taxes…
…or die soon and give Mark the stepped up tax basis…
…and if Al dies in 2010…no federal estate taxes…
Paging Dr. Kevorkian, Dr. Kevorkian, you are wanted on the silver and black emergency phone….
September 3rd, 2009 at 4:03 pm
Dakota Says:
September 3rd, 2009 at 3:39 pm
Richochet,
Only a 12 year old would think that a college player’s resume makes him a great NFL prospect. Is your real name Ty Detmer?
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Patrick Bates anyone?
September 3rd, 2009 at 4:06 pm
KoolKell Says:
September 3rd, 2009 at 4:01 pm
By EVERY FREAKIN MEASUREMENT THE RAIDERS ARE FAILING. You dense ass idiots.
“Trust me bro, Al’s not going to be collecting unemployment anytime soon.”
Jeezus fuking Chriest! It’s not about Al you dumbass. It’s about WINNING. I guess most of you don’t know anything about that!
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Its about winning, not about money. Even Al Davis would tell you that. Dallas is #1 on the list. Did I miss them winning the Superbowl last year.
September 3rd, 2009 at 4:07 pm
I have to agree…”winning cures all”
September 3rd, 2009 at 4:08 pm
That story about Al being in financial trouble was written by Mega-Raider Hater Michael Silver. Take it with a grain of salt. He quotes one unnamed source from another team for the basis of that claim. A flimsy story from a true hack.
September 3rd, 2009 at 4:08 pm
Aw,..is poor old Kell having another day of bitterness and jealousy?…every time I see you in here all mad kell, it puts a smile on my face.
September 3rd, 2009 at 4:09 pm
Are you guys friggen excited or what?
September 3rd, 2009 at 4:09 pm
I am excited to watch the second coming of Tatum tonight…the YouTube Kid….MIKE MITCHELLLLLLLLLL
Cable, you better not play McFadden, Bush, Oneal or Russell tonight AT ALL…why risk injury for absolutely nothing?
DHB needs to play though…
September 3rd, 2009 at 4:10 pm
mitchell will not be playing unfortunately
September 3rd, 2009 at 4:10 pm
Dakota Says:
September 3rd, 2009 at 3:51 pm
KK,
The only reason the Raiders lost money last season…
Walker
Harris
Hall
Carter
Wilson
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Dakota, please don’t YOU start talking like a gawdamned idiot.
Did you read this:
The skinny
The Raiders dominated the AFL for much of the 1960s and the NFL during the 1970s. But based on just about every yardstick of competence the franchise has been terrible this decade. The Raiders are in the bottom third of the league in player costs-per-win, winning percentage and brand value. Much of the decline in the franchise has been due to bad draft picks and expensive free-agent signings that have not panned out. Team owner Al Davis, who is 80 and in poor health, has failed to get the new stadium he so badly needs and has angered many fans and politicians with lawsuits and transporting his team from Oakland to Los Angeles and then back to Oakland. Whoever succeeds Davis as managing partner has a lot of rebuilding to do.
September 3rd, 2009 at 4:11 pm
MM is not seeing any action tonite……is he?
September 3rd, 2009 at 4:12 pm
pretty impressed with Nick Miller 2.Since it’s a pre-season and it start’s at 10:00 PST,thats 1:00 A.M. here in floritucky…so I wont watch till the re-run
September 3rd, 2009 at 4:12 pm
#213 seriously funny as hell!!
September 3rd, 2009 at 4:13 pm
Its about winning, not about money.
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YEAH ITS ABOUT WINNING, Genius.
Have you seen any of that lately?
September 3rd, 2009 at 4:13 pm
Kell, ol buddy, thanks for your continuing to cut and paste others articles, it keeps us from being bored at your same ol posts of jealousy and anger.
September 3rd, 2009 at 4:14 pm
Kell,..you think Al Davis is such a failure,..he owns a team worth 800 million, in the hall of fame,..and what is it that you have accomplished? thought so.
September 3rd, 2009 at 4:15 pm
Interesting that the Lions had the worst attendance in the league, Raiders second-worst, yet they operated more profitably than the Raiders.
My quick answer, corporate sponsorship. Could have something to do with pro-rating and signing bonuses (not part of the cap).
September 3rd, 2009 at 4:17 pm
KK,
I hear you bro, and I agree that the Raiders are in trouble…but as long as Al Davis doesn’t go nutz and sign a bunch of loser free agents again like he did in 08′, I think he will easily turn a profit…
I 100% agree with you that from a competitive standpoint, Al Davis has driven us so low that whale schit is landing on our heads, but I just don’t think he will bankrupt the team. He paid the price for horrible FAs and for drafting in the top 10 for a bunch of years, but if he holds off on the FA frenzy, like he did this year, the Raiders will turn a profit once again.
I would love to see Al forced to sell…just doubt it will happen.
September 3rd, 2009 at 4:17 pm
Is it fukking Winning, when you’re ranked at the bottom of every NFL category?
September 3rd, 2009 at 4:17 pm
Who would you rather be….
Al Davis spent $180k and now worth 797m
or
Dan Snyder spent $750m in 1999 and now they are worth $1.6b.
Snyder is probably still paying off a bunch of loans while AD has the Raiders free and clear.
September 3rd, 2009 at 4:18 pm
Why do you “people” give a damn about some forbes list?…Im 100% certain none of you have ever opened up that magazine in your life.
September 3rd, 2009 at 4:18 pm
Mitchell isn’t playing tonight? Damn, I thought he was…fuk…there goes any reason to watch the game…
September 3rd, 2009 at 4:19 pm
Geez Kell,..all yellin and cussing…why?…dude you need a 40 and a couple tokes and maybe a pill,…I truly wish you would try and enjoy things more,..its just football bud,..its entertainment,..if all its doing is making you mad all the time maybe you should walk away from it.
September 3rd, 2009 at 4:20 pm
Yeah, I don’t think Al is hurting for money. Tell you what, nobody is going to be talking about this bs come that MNF game.
Raiders 24 – Discharge 21
McFadden rushing 15-125-1TD receiving (4-45-1TD)
Miller 6-80-1TD
Bush rushing 10-70-1TD
Koolaid-Drinkers 1-0
September 3rd, 2009 at 4:20 pm
I’ll check you guys later, Nation, I’m out.
Be good.
September 3rd, 2009 at 4:21 pm
Al Davis: I’m in charge here!
http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w205/bradcymru/aldavis.jpg
September 3rd, 2009 at 4:21 pm
Anybody else NFLN went crapped out on them?
Kell – Really dude …those net worth rankings are meaningless. Don’t put much stock into it. The value of any object is in the eyes of the beholder; which means it varies. Forbes does not have a monopoly on value – just an opinion – like countless other opinions out there.
Still, the Raiders rank last in many categories of measurement simply because they’ve been losing for the past countless years. Winning cures all. And you watch just have fast these stats change once that happens. Just goes to show you how ‘worthless’ they truly are.
September 3rd, 2009 at 4:21 pm
When Forbes values things, they are about as spot-on accurate as can be.
September 3rd, 2009 at 4:22 pm
Still…from where we once stood to where we are standing now,is WORLDS apart.The true test of ANY kind of champion is how well they stand back up after getting knocked on their ass.Big Al will stand up again because he is a proven winner.I know the last 6 have been HELL but it changes this year,imo.But the ref’s count is up to 6 and Big AL is on his knees trying desperatly 2 get back up
September 3rd, 2009 at 4:22 pm
All you guys worrying about if these owners are rich enough,..its truly amazing,..why dont you guys try and improve yourselves instead of crying about which owner has more money…ridiculous.
September 3rd, 2009 at 4:22 pm
Terp,..nfln net on here,..jets game.
September 3rd, 2009 at 4:23 pm
Terrapin Says:
September 3rd, 2009 at 4:21 pm
Anybody else NFLN went crapped out on them?
Kell – Really dude …those net worth rankings are meaningless. Don’t put much stock into it. The value of any object is in the eyes of the beholder; which means it varies. Forbes does not have a monopoly on value – just an opinion – like countless other opinions out there.
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STFU
September 3rd, 2009 at 4:23 pm
Sorry dude, just being real.
Not to long ago, most analyst thought the Dow’s net worth was enough to be over 14k. Its now at 9k.
September 3rd, 2009 at 4:23 pm
Kell you in here telling people to stfu?…you think anyone in here would take orders from a prick like you?
September 3rd, 2009 at 4:23 pm
We do lead the NFL in Head Coach firings over the past 7 years…
…and in most losses over the past 6 years!
We’re #1!
September 3rd, 2009 at 4:23 pm
You guys are a bunch of beat-down pussies. Looooooooow Expectations.
LOSERS. You make me sick!
September 3rd, 2009 at 4:25 pm
Nothing matters to you mothahubberds!
September 3rd, 2009 at 4:25 pm
See everyone look at how Dakota found a positive in this crappy situation!!
We can be Number 1 at something!
When Al dies his son doesn’t want this mess so we could be in a worse situation than we are now if that is at all possible.
September 3rd, 2009 at 4:26 pm
Kell, we all know its YOU thats the loser,..you prove it in here every day.
September 3rd, 2009 at 4:27 pm
Not sure what happened there. Had to turn off my box then turn it back on. NFLN is on now …lets see what Vick’s got. (I still don’t know why the Eagles got him with McNabb there).
September 3rd, 2009 at 4:28 pm
16-0? The eternal optimist. Now about that GM stock I want to sell you that will surely rebound. Worthless my a**!
September 3rd, 2009 at 4:28 pm
Hey Exla…no matter how many times I see that picture,iy still gives me da creeps =)
September 3rd, 2009 at 4:28 pm
look, it comes down to this..This is JaMarcus’ 15 or 16 start against the Chargers…typically it takes 32 starts for a QB to start to recoginze everything that the d-coordinators are doing to them…there may be some slow starts early in the season, but by week 8, things may start to work themselves out… If anything needs to be questioned, it is the defense, it is pathetic.
September 3rd, 2009 at 4:29 pm
Anyway, does anyone think that Alfonso Boone can start at RDE. We CANNOT go into the season with T. Scott at RDE
September 3rd, 2009 at 4:29 pm
Something has to be going on ..it crapped out AGAIN!!
September 3rd, 2009 at 4:29 pm
Hey Kell, when you are in here screaming, cussing,..are you in your house punching holes in walls?…yelling?…do your neighbors avoid you?
September 3rd, 2009 at 4:30 pm
I am telling you, if Al wants to keep the Raiders in the family, his best bet is to take a trip up to Oregon and partake in their Death with Dignity Act in 2010.
No federal estate taxes in 2010 and Mark gets a stepped up basis of whatever the team is worth on Al’s date of death.
Estate planning at its best baby!
September 3rd, 2009 at 4:30 pm
terp you have directv?
September 3rd, 2009 at 4:33 pm
Have a nice weekend…I got a 4 day…laters
September 3rd, 2009 at 4:34 pm
Kell,
You remind me of my Dad…..he called me up screming because he found out some terrorists were threatened under the Bush regime. My reply was who gives a sh!t theyr’e terrorists. He went frickin ballistic…lol
September 3rd, 2009 at 4:34 pm
C-YA Dakota
September 3rd, 2009 at 4:35 pm
Norco
KK is one of those old scary guys that talks to himself while walking aimlessly down the street at 3am with a hatchet in his hand.
If it wasn’t for the fact that he craps his pants at inopportune times He probably would have angrily chopped a few of the locals mail boxes in half and killed off a few of the neighborhood cats.
Its only his uncontrollable bowel movements that have saved the neighborhood from the true wrath of KK.
September 3rd, 2009 at 4:37 pm
#252 seriously funny as hell!!
September 3rd, 2009 at 4:39 pm
Kell for sure needs to be institutionalized, hell he may be now, those places likely have internet access like prisons,…Iv tried to advise Kell to give up following the raiders, all it does is bring him misery,..whatever the case, hes a total prick.
September 3rd, 2009 at 4:39 pm
hahahahaha@post #257
September 3rd, 2009 at 4:40 pm
terp whos your cable provider?
September 3rd, 2009 at 4:40 pm
Ok I’m totally confused now. Did I just step out the Matrix or something?
Giants vs Jets on but game guide says its suppose to be Eagles vs Jets?
Who pulled the ‘ol switcher-roo?
September 3rd, 2009 at 4:42 pm
Comcast …those crooks!
September 3rd, 2009 at 4:49 pm
KK relates to the Raiders because he (like Al Davis) needs a drool rag.
The player wear helmets KK wears a helmet.
Gallery has nice colored art work all over his body KK paints his naked crap stained body during finger paint time at the convalescent home.
The Raiders take a huge dump in front of the home crowd and KK cant control his bowels either.
I can see why he follows the Raiders now….
September 3rd, 2009 at 4:57 pm
From Jerry’s twittter thingy…
Jerry say’s August blog views were 1,104,019, a new record…
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No wonder Mickey D’s is getting in on the action…
September 3rd, 2009 at 5:00 pm
Ahhhhhhh, The conversation here at Rag on the Raiders chat needs to get back to football even if its the usual Al sucks, Raiders suck, fire Cable, dump JR, etc etc.
September 3rd, 2009 at 5:01 pm
That shyt is Important. All the shyt you little fantasy league mfkr’s laugh off, is Important!
That’s why we’re not winning, you little fools.
September 3rd, 2009 at 5:04 pm
You ltttle video game idiots. You soft little pootbutts.
You weren’t there, you don’t know. You don’t care. Well fuk you, I do.
September 3rd, 2009 at 5:05 pm
Have a wonderful evening NATION!!!
September 3rd, 2009 at 5:08 pm
FK U
September 3rd, 2009 at 5:09 pm
Who ever gets all the playing time tonight, had best put a helluva lot more effort in to it than Saturday’s debacle…
If you get bored, Oregon vs. Boise St. ought to be a barn burner…
September 3rd, 2009 at 5:12 pm
Later…ice COLD beer time… [;
September 3rd, 2009 at 5:29 pm
NFL commissioner Roger Goodell recently said up to 12 teams were in danger of having at least one blackout this season.A sellout refers only to the 65,000 seats in the upper and lower bowls of Invesco Field at Mile High, which has an overall capacity of 76,125 seats. These “nonpremium” seats are subject to complete revenue sharing with the league’s 31 other teams.
It’s no surprise the Broncos are suffering less than other NFL franchises through this difficult economy. The team has 316 consecutive regular-season and playoff sellouts, stretching back 40 years.———
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It would be hard to find a more loyal fan of the Washington Redskins than real estate agent Pat Hill. She’s had season tickets since the early 1960s. Hill is one of 125 season ticket holders who asked to be released from multiyear contracts and were sued by the Redskins in the past five years. The Washington Post interviewed about two dozen of them. Most said that they were victims of the economic downturn, having lost a job or experiencing some other financial hardship.
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The Bush depression is the reason Al’s losing money. Hell the whole NFL feels the effects of the economy. It’s time for some teams to bail out the fans. Al, list your stock publicly & the fans will buy it. He has to go sometime right?
GB did it! Dakota GB means reen Bay not Glenn Beck.
September 3rd, 2009 at 5:38 pm
Omg are you people really goin to watch the raider game?????????????????…lame…Oregon and Boise St is the way to go.
September 3rd, 2009 at 5:38 pm
So KK
Did you call editor of this rag and ask him why people are reading your post before they appear on the screen?
And I use to think you were one of Scarys alter egos.
September 3rd, 2009 at 5:38 pm
Plunketthead Says:
Ahhhhhhh, The conversation here at Rag on the Raiders chat needs to get back to football even if its the usual Al sucks, Raiders suck, fire Cable, dump JR, etc etc.
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You just took Narco’s reason for being here now he can stick his head up his butt & jumps as in disappear.
September 3rd, 2009 at 5:46 pm
In Internet slang, a troll is someone who posts controversial, inflammatory, irrelevant or off-topic messages in an online community, such as an online discussion forum, chat room or blog, with the primary intent of provoking other users into an emotional or disciplinary response[1] or of otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion.[2]
September 3rd, 2009 at 5:59 pm
TW—- Bob is ok for a norchead.
But everyone knows real men abuse roxicodone
September 3rd, 2009 at 6:00 pm
Bingo TW, right on time too. lol
September 3rd, 2009 at 6:08 pm
Norco Bob Says:
September 3rd, 2009 at 5:37 pm
TW goes around snvlin,..crying…whining…”aaawww,..if it werent for Bush I would be doing great,..I would have a great job and lots of money if not for mean ol Bush…”,…lmao,…TW you are just a loser.
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wow… so the 40 plus people i laid off over the past year are sniveling whiners???
hmmm… you already know you’re a fuqqing idiot, yes???
September 3rd, 2009 at 6:11 pm
Its ok TW, everyone knows Norco Bob is harmless. His incoherent drug addled ramblings are quaint and amusing.
September 3rd, 2009 at 6:42 pm
Dakota Says:
September 3rd, 2009 at 3:39 pm
Richochet,
Only a 12 year old would think that a college player’s resume makes him a great NFL prospect. Is your real name Ty Detmer?
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Wow.
You didn’t just say that.
Wait. Let me check.
Yep, lol, you did.
Ok Einstein, tell me then..what is THE CRITERIA FOR EACH AND EVERY TEAM WHEN THEY DRAFT??
Ok, I’ll make it simple for you.
What do the draft rankings go by?
1. what the mailman told you?
2. letters from neighbors?
3. little birdy told you?
4. what a player did in college?
Well?? Something is used to decide who is going to be a good NFL PROSPECT…WHAT, PRAY TELL, WOULD THAT BE??
(still laughing…honestly)
September 3rd, 2009 at 6:43 pm
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Is there ANY AWARD CRABTREE DIDN’T GET?
How about the honor roll?
September 3rd, 2009 at 6:51 pm
I’d like to see the Run Stopped by everyone on the depth chart tonite.
September 3rd, 2009 at 6:52 pm
Rich ———
Season is about to start!!!
I am getting stoked!!!
I cant wait for the season to start!!!!
By the way, who is your favorite team?
Mine is the Oakland Raiders!!!
9-7 = playoffs, baby
Best year ever!!!
September 3rd, 2009 at 6:54 pm
287. Blind to facts and delusional about what happened during the Bush admin. theres too many of these fuks because the media is owned by, guess who? Republicna companies.
The roll backs of anti trust laws by Republicnas back in the 90’s fukt us all real good and set the wheels in motion for the collapse we are suffering 2 day.
Wurd…
http://www.freepress.net/ownership/chart/main
September 3rd, 2009 at 6:56 pm
texguy Says:
September 3rd, 2009 at 6:43 pm
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Is there ANY AWARD CRABTREE DIDN’T GET?
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Yes, PERFECT ATTENDANCE…
September 3rd, 2009 at 6:59 pm
You know Norco, I’ve tried to find compassion for you and what ever situation made you so blind and bitter, but you know what? Fuq it. Its YOUR choice to be such a k-unt so fuq you and all those like you.
We’ve all suffered because of your ugliness and ignorance long enough.
Sic Semper Tyrannis
September 3rd, 2009 at 6:59 pm
Hey, I don’t have the game tonight here. Anyone have the website I can watch the game on. By the way, I’m in the Yahoo league and ready to go. Is it a random draw or are we drafting?
September 3rd, 2009 at 7:00 pm
Nnamdi21 <– lol
September 3rd, 2009 at 7:01 pm
midwest fan go to channelsurfing.net
September 3rd, 2009 at 7:04 pm
Speaking of losers, Im outta here to watch the raider game,..damn, come to think of it,..the raiders losing the last 6 years is bush`s fault too!!!! lmao
September 3rd, 2009 at 7:05 pm
Richochet, are you going to tell us the name of your favorite team?
Or, are you going to ignore the question and change the subject again?
September 3rd, 2009 at 7:05 pm
Dakota Says:
September 3rd, 2009 at 4:17 pm
KK,
I hear you bro, and I agree that the Raiders are in trouble…but as long as Al Davis doesn’t go nutz and sign a bunch of loser free agents again like he did in 08′, I think he will easily turn a profit…
I 100% agree with you that from a competitive standpoint, Al Davis has driven us so low that whale schit is landing on our heads, but I just don’t think he will bankrupt the team. He paid the price for horrible FAs and for drafting in the top 10 for a bunch of years, but if he holds off on the FA frenzy, like he did this year, the Raiders will turn a profit once again.
I would love to see Al forced to sell…just doubt it will happen.
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you “doubt it”??
It’s IMPOSSIBLE.
You can’t tell a person they have to sell something that is privately owned…EVER.
He could get ousted from the league for rule violations, but even then he can pass it on to whoever.
Besides, even if someone could get booted, do you honestly believe the other owners would want that?
Why?
They love having an owner who insures them a win. Love having a guy who does everything backasswards. Love knowing that whatever it is they do, whatever it is they screw up, they’ll always know they’ll have the out of “Well, hey, at least I didn’t pull an Al Davis”.
Nope..you’re stuck….foreveeeeeeeeeerrrrrrrrrrr
Wouldn’t have it any other way.
September 3rd, 2009 at 7:11 pm
Thanks. I’m also trying to watch The OR game. Told work I’d be in late tomorrow.
September 3rd, 2009 at 7:13 pm
Norco Bob Says:
September 3rd, 2009 at 6:54 pm
Pete those 40 people got laid off because you suck at your business….but go ahead and blame the government for your failings.
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norc… you’re a clown…
fiscal policy impacts the economy in a big way…
as for my business… the fact that i am actually still in business is just short of a miracle…
i don’t sell schit… our business performs engineering tasks for telephone companies…
phone companies tend to be very mindful of the economic climate and cut their budgets as they see fit…
that, combined with contract negotiations with their unions… created a huge problem…
had the unions gone on strike… that would have been good for me…
had the unions settled quickly… that would have been good for me…
but for the past 7 months everything has been in limbo… and that has been bad for me…
another part of my engineering business depends on new housing starts… as we do fiber to the home designs… not a lot of new construction out there now is there???
but… since you’re the only smart m’fker here… i’ll let you tell me how i could have done it right…
by the way… i am assured by several of the managers at the phone company that as soon as their budgets for 2010 are released they would like to negotiate some new work…
they didn’t say bid it out.. they said negotiate…
one last thing…
two weeks ago i bid 7 cents a foot on a 75 mile fiber job in Oklahoma… i never bid less than 24 cents/ft in my life…
i lost the bid… unbelieveable…
but… clearly i don’t know what the fck i’m doing… right you stupid m’fer…
September 3rd, 2009 at 7:22 pm
Florida??
I’m surprised at you.
Bob’s a burner.
Burners are limited to two sentences..three tops.
You lost him at “fiscal”.
September 3rd, 2009 at 7:39 pm
We are seeing some unbelievable low bids here. Material prices are still what they were during the boom, but everyone is bleeding labor dry. Pay cuts everywhere unless you work for the state.
They were about the only ones trading cash for clunkers and they mostly bought foreign cars.
We are screwed, it already hurts and they real screwing has not even started.
September 3rd, 2009 at 7:43 pm
I started a FFL last week and the live draft is monday at 1:45 pacific time
Its at NFL.com.
Private league name is Scarys Raiders
Password is bestyearever
Need ten players