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		<title>By: Plunketthead</title>
		<link>http://www.ibabuzz.com/oaklandraiders/2009/09/03/live-raiders-chat-today-at-noon/comment-page-6/#comment-141974</link>
		<dc:creator>Plunketthead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Sep 2009 02:43:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I started a FFL last week and the live draft is monday at 1:45 pacific time

Its at NFL.com. 
Private league name is Scarys Raiders
Password is bestyearever

Need ten players</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I started a FFL last week and the live draft is monday at 1:45 pacific time</p>
<p>Its at NFL.com.<br />
Private league name is Scarys Raiders<br />
Password is bestyearever</p>
<p>Need ten players</p>
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		<title>By: Plunketthead</title>
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		<dc:creator>Plunketthead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Sep 2009 02:39:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We are seeing some unbelievable low bids here. Material prices are still what they were during the boom, but everyone is bleeding labor dry. Pay cuts everywhere unless you work for the state.

They were about the only ones trading cash for clunkers and they mostly bought foreign cars.
We are screwed, it already hurts and they real screwing has not even started.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We are seeing some unbelievable low bids here. Material prices are still what they were during the boom, but everyone is bleeding labor dry. Pay cuts everywhere unless you work for the state.</p>
<p>They were about the only ones trading cash for clunkers and they mostly bought foreign cars.<br />
We are screwed, it already hurts and they real screwing has not even started.</p>
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		<title>By: Richochet</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richochet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Sep 2009 02:22:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Florida??
I&#039;m surprised at you.

Bob&#039;s a burner.

Burners are limited to two sentences..three tops.

You lost him at &quot;fiscal&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Florida??<br />
I&#8217;m surprised at you.</p>
<p>Bob&#8217;s a burner.</p>
<p>Burners are limited to two sentences..three tops.</p>
<p>You lost him at &#8220;fiscal&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Florida Pete</title>
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		<dc:creator>Florida Pete</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Sep 2009 02:13:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Norco Bob Says: 
September 3rd, 2009 at 6:54 pm 
Pete those 40 people got laid off because you suck at your business….but go ahead and blame the government for your failings.

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norc... you&#039;re a clown...

fiscal policy impacts the economy in a big way...

as for my business... the fact that i am actually still in business is just short of a miracle...

i don&#039;t sell schit... our business performs engineering tasks for telephone companies...

phone companies tend to be very mindful of the economic climate and cut their budgets as they see fit...

that, combined with contract negotiations with their unions... created a huge problem...

had the unions gone on strike... that would have been good for me...

had the unions settled quickly... that would have been good for me...

but for the past 7 months everything has been in limbo... and that has been bad for me...

another part of my engineering business depends on new housing starts... as we do fiber to the home designs... not a lot of new construction out there now is there???

but... since you&#039;re the only smart m&#039;fker here... i&#039;ll let you tell me how i could have done it right...

by the way... i am assured by several of the managers at the phone company that as soon as their budgets for 2010 are released they would like to negotiate some new work...

they didn&#039;t say bid it out.. they said negotiate...

one last thing...

two weeks ago i bid 7 cents a foot on a 75 mile fiber job in Oklahoma... i never bid less than 24 cents/ft in my life...

i lost the bid... unbelieveable...

but... clearly i don&#039;t know what the fck i&#039;m doing... right you stupid m&#039;fer...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Norco Bob Says:<br />
September 3rd, 2009 at 6:54 pm<br />
Pete those 40 people got laid off because you suck at your business….but go ahead and blame the government for your failings.</p>
<p>::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::</p>
<p>norc&#8230; you&#8217;re a clown&#8230;</p>
<p>fiscal policy impacts the economy in a big way&#8230;</p>
<p>as for my business&#8230; the fact that i am actually still in business is just short of a miracle&#8230;</p>
<p>i don&#8217;t sell schit&#8230; our business performs engineering tasks for telephone companies&#8230;</p>
<p>phone companies tend to be very mindful of the economic climate and cut their budgets as they see fit&#8230;</p>
<p>that, combined with contract negotiations with their unions&#8230; created a huge problem&#8230;</p>
<p>had the unions gone on strike&#8230; that would have been good for me&#8230;</p>
<p>had the unions settled quickly&#8230; that would have been good for me&#8230;</p>
<p>but for the past 7 months everything has been in limbo&#8230; and that has been bad for me&#8230;</p>
<p>another part of my engineering business depends on new housing starts&#8230; as we do fiber to the home designs&#8230; not a lot of new construction out there now is there???</p>
<p>but&#8230; since you&#8217;re the only smart m&#8217;fker here&#8230; i&#8217;ll let you tell me how i could have done it right&#8230;</p>
<p>by the way&#8230; i am assured by several of the managers at the phone company that as soon as their budgets for 2010 are released they would like to negotiate some new work&#8230;</p>
<p>they didn&#8217;t say bid it out.. they said negotiate&#8230;</p>
<p>one last thing&#8230;</p>
<p>two weeks ago i bid 7 cents a foot on a 75 mile fiber job in Oklahoma&#8230; i never bid less than 24 cents/ft in my life&#8230;</p>
<p>i lost the bid&#8230; unbelieveable&#8230;</p>
<p>but&#8230; clearly i don&#8217;t know what the fck i&#8217;m doing&#8230; right you stupid m&#8217;fer&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Midwest Fan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Midwest Fan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Sep 2009 02:11:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks. I&#039;m also trying to watch The OR game. Told work I&#039;d be in late tomorrow.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks. I&#8217;m also trying to watch The OR game. Told work I&#8217;d be in late tomorrow.</p>
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		<title>By: Richochet</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richochet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Sep 2009 02:05:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dakota Says: 
September 3rd, 2009 at 4:17 pm 
KK,

I hear you bro, and I agree that the Raiders are in trouble…but as long as Al Davis doesn’t go nutz and sign a bunch of loser free agents again like he did in 08′, I think he will easily turn a profit…

I 100% agree with you that from a competitive standpoint, Al Davis has driven us so low that whale schit is landing on our heads, but I just don’t think he will bankrupt the team. He paid the price for horrible FAs and for drafting in the top 10 for a bunch of years, but if he holds off on the FA frenzy, like he did this year, the Raiders will turn a profit once again.

I would love to see Al forced to sell…just doubt it will happen.
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you &quot;doubt it&quot;??
It&#039;s IMPOSSIBLE.

You can&#039;t tell a person they have to sell something that is privately owned...EVER.
He could get ousted from the league for rule violations, but even then he can pass it on to whoever.

Besides, even if someone could get booted, do you honestly believe the other owners would want that?
Why?

They love having an owner who insures them a win. Love having a guy who does everything backasswards. Love knowing that whatever it is they do, whatever it is they screw up, they&#039;ll always know they&#039;ll have the out of &quot;Well, hey, at least I didn&#039;t pull an Al Davis&quot;.

Nope..you&#039;re stuck....foreveeeeeeeeeerrrrrrrrrrr :)

Wouldn&#039;t have it any other way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dakota Says:<br />
September 3rd, 2009 at 4:17 pm<br />
KK,</p>
<p>I hear you bro, and I agree that the Raiders are in trouble…but as long as Al Davis doesn’t go nutz and sign a bunch of loser free agents again like he did in 08′, I think he will easily turn a profit…</p>
<p>I 100% agree with you that from a competitive standpoint, Al Davis has driven us so low that whale schit is landing on our heads, but I just don’t think he will bankrupt the team. He paid the price for horrible FAs and for drafting in the top 10 for a bunch of years, but if he holds off on the FA frenzy, like he did this year, the Raiders will turn a profit once again.</p>
<p>I would love to see Al forced to sell…just doubt it will happen.<br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;-<br />
you &#8220;doubt it&#8221;??<br />
It&#8217;s IMPOSSIBLE.</p>
<p>You can&#8217;t tell a person they have to sell something that is privately owned&#8230;EVER.<br />
He could get ousted from the league for rule violations, but even then he can pass it on to whoever.</p>
<p>Besides, even if someone could get booted, do you honestly believe the other owners would want that?<br />
Why?</p>
<p>They love having an owner who insures them a win. Love having a guy who does everything backasswards. Love knowing that whatever it is they do, whatever it is they screw up, they&#8217;ll always know they&#8217;ll have the out of &#8220;Well, hey, at least I didn&#8217;t pull an Al Davis&#8221;.</p>
<p>Nope..you&#8217;re stuck&#8230;.foreveeeeeeeeeerrrrrrrrrrr <img src='http://www.ibabuzz.com/oaklandraiders/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Wouldn&#8217;t have it any other way.</p>
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		<title>By: texguy</title>
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		<dc:creator>texguy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Sep 2009 02:05:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Richochet, are you going to tell us the name of your favorite team?

Or, are you going to ignore the question and change the subject again?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Richochet, are you going to tell us the name of your favorite team?</p>
<p>Or, are you going to ignore the question and change the subject again?</p>
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		<title>By: Norco Bob</title>
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		<dc:creator>Norco Bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Sep 2009 02:04:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Speaking of losers, Im outta here to watch the raider game,..damn, come to think of it,..the raiders losing the last 6 years is bush`s fault too!!!!  lmao</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Speaking of losers, Im outta here to watch the raider game,..damn, come to think of it,..the raiders losing the last 6 years is bush`s fault too!!!!  lmao</p>
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		<title>By: raiderz4o8</title>
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		<dc:creator>raiderz4o8</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Sep 2009 02:01:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>midwest fan go to channelsurfing.net</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>midwest fan go to channelsurfing.net</p>
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		<title>By: texguy</title>
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		<dc:creator>texguy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Sep 2009 02:00:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nnamdi21 &lt;-- lol</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nnamdi21 &lt;&#8211; lol</p>
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