Joseph absent, practice squad forming
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Sunday, September 6th, 2009 at 1:19 pm in Oakland Raiders.
Defensive tackle William Joseph was not present for stretching and preliminary drill work with the defensive line, indicating he may be the victim following the trade for the Patriots Richard Seymour.
The Raiders have not announced any transactions, either on their Web page or through their Twitter account.
Among the players who appear to have resurfaced in the practice squad include linebacker Slade Norris, a fourth-round pick. Also back are defensive end Greyson Gunheim, wide receiver Jonathan Holland, linebacker David Nixon and safety Jerome Boyd.
There was also a No. 45 who may or may not be fullback Marcel Reece.
Injured players who were not present as practice began included linebacker Isaiah Ekejiuba, wide receiver Chaz Schilens and running back Justin Fargas.
Cornerback Nnamdi Asomugha was practicing with his left wrist in a soft cast, Kirk Morrison with his left elbow in a brace. Also on the field were strong safety Mike Mitchell and tackle Khalif Barnes.
Punter Shane Lechler, who missed the final preseason game with a groin strain, was taking part in kicking drills.
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September 6th, 2009 at 1:20 pm
#1
September 6th, 2009 at 1:20 pm
MR is just mad because they raided his dump in Antioch and found he was hiding a woman that he had kidnapped 18 years ago. I guess they have internet access in jail.
MR IS GETTING OWNED TODAY!
as usual.
September 6th, 2009 at 1:21 pm
Joseph gone? Oh well so what? We got Seymour who is a better DT who will no doubt start at DT if this is the case so for all you Scott haters and lets move a 300 plus guy at RDE for the 4-3 can shut it down
September 6th, 2009 at 1:21 pm
Oakglenn, great analysis of bringing in big Sey! That’s what I was thinking when I predicted this trade.
September 6th, 2009 at 1:21 pm
Brien the General, don’t you have anything original to say?
September 6th, 2009 at 1:22 pm
OWNED
September 6th, 2009 at 1:23 pm
MR is a pawn
September 6th, 2009 at 1:25 pm
# BS Detector Says:
September 6th, 2009 at 1:20 pm
MR is just mad because they raided his dump in Antioch and found he was hiding a woman that he had kidnapped 18 years ago. I guess they have internet access in jail.
MR IS GETTING OWNED TODAY!
as usual.
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Sorry BS Detector but that guy in Antioch had kids with that chick. That means he used no condom. MR has already admitted to never having sex without a rubber.
September 6th, 2009 at 1:30 pm
Brien, and your calling MR crazy? Maybe you should look in the mirror.
September 6th, 2009 at 1:31 pm
Micheal Moore is Rob Ryan in the offseason when he shaves his beard!!! Why do we get stupid posts like #14???
September 6th, 2009 at 1:32 pm
Thankfully we are keeping Mr. Holland, and LBs Mr. Norris & Mr. Nixon,
Fourth Rounders survived, Mr. Bowie & Mr. Norris, thankfully I was wrong about who was going to get cut for Mr Seymour’s roster spot.
A major upgrade over Mr. Joseph’s contribution, what Joseph did in six seasons, Richard did more in last 2 years (15 & 9 game seasons).
September 6th, 2009 at 1:32 pm
I imagine this is what Brien The General looks like at home while railing about MR:
http://www.xenex.org/justify/i/glennbeck.jpg
September 6th, 2009 at 1:32 pm
MR got OWNED and now he is nowhere to be found. Scumbag talking about having sex with people’s dead mothers. What a sick fuk.
September 6th, 2009 at 1:32 pm
# Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
September 6th, 2009 at 1:30 pm
Brien, and your calling MR crazy? Maybe you should look in the mirror.
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When did I say MR was crazy. I think the guy is funny
By the way, Moore is a damn fraud. He was asked about NORAD standing down and why he didnt mention it in his film. He gave a typical stooge answer….”That would be unamerican”
September 6th, 2009 at 1:33 pm
RaiderLen Says:
September 6th, 2009 at 1:25 pm
Whats up Nation. Let’s see….R. Seymour to the Raiders TODAY, for….Somebody in 2011.
Sign Me up.
Glad to see Rankin made the roster, REALLY glad to see a 39yr old QB get cut in favor of 2 others that outplayed Him.
If we can pull a run stuffing MLB out of our arse, I think we can have a Defense that will make it happen.
September 6th, 2009 at 1:34 pm
Okay…now THAT is addressing the d-line! Way to go Al Davis!
September 6th, 2009 at 1:35 pm
Dakota
You blew it. You can not give AD any credit. He is only responsible for the bad things. Grudens ghost must of pulled the trigger on this one.
September 6th, 2009 at 1:35 pm
Wow even that liberal wimp Dakota is on board
September 6th, 2009 at 1:35 pm
# 1960AutumnWind Says:
September 6th, 2009 at 1:31 pm
Micheal Moore is Rob Ryan in the offseason when he shaves his beard!!! Why do we get stupid posts like #14???
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What do you expect from a stupid person?
September 6th, 2009 at 1:35 pm
If they havent already agreed on a new contract with Seymore, simply put, Al Davis should be takn out behind the barn and shot. Period. End of conversation.
September 6th, 2009 at 1:36 pm
Brian #28 Exactly!
September 6th, 2009 at 1:37 pm
Well 1960AutumnWin….I lately was very mad at all for not getting any damn guy to help this run defense. I also said something drastic must occur before Sept 14th. Al thank you alot
September 6th, 2009 at 1:38 pm
Ellis, Kelly, Seymore & Shaughnessy – the new starting front four. Now we need to pickup a MLB and have Mitchell play as advertised and we might have something that could be called a legitimate defense.
Get Kalif Barnes in there now at ORT. Anybody, even on one leg, would be an improvement over Green.
September 6th, 2009 at 1:39 pm
# RaiderRon Says:
September 6th, 2009 at 1:35 pm
If they havent already agreed on a new contract with Seymore, simply put, Al Davis should be takn out behind the barn and shot. Period. End of conversation.
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Rhonda! Farglass 2009= 250 carries 1500 yards 14 TDs?
September 6th, 2009 at 1:39 pm
I read an interesting comment about the value of the trade…
Last year, the Vikings traded a 1st and two 3rd round picks for Jared Allen.
This year, we traded one 1st round pick (2 years from now) for Richard Seymour.
We did ok.
All in all, here’s the balance our our dealings with the pats…
New England gets: Derrick Burguess and the Raiders 1st round pick in 2011.
Raiders get: Richard Seymour and the Pats 3rd round pick in 2010 and fifth in 2011.
I don’t have a problem with it.
September 6th, 2009 at 1:39 pm
[...] [Raiders] Raiders DT William Joseph Absent From Practice Defensive tackle William Joseph was not present for stretching and preliminary drill work with the defensive line, indicating he may be the victim following the trade for the Patriots Richard Seymour. The Raiders have not announced any transactions, either on their Web page or through their Twitter account. Source: Oakland Tribune [...]
September 6th, 2009 at 1:40 pm
Brein,
Didnt say anything about Fargas.
September 6th, 2009 at 1:41 pm
MoRon, We’ve got Seymour for this season, and if a contract is not hammered out soon, Al can franchise Him.
By the way, Al always keeps the players He wants.
September 6th, 2009 at 1:41 pm
# JB Says:
September 6th, 2009 at 1:38 pm
Ellis, Kelly, Seymore & Shaughnessy – the new starting front four. Now we need to pickup a MLB and have Mitchell play as advertised and we might have something that could be called a legitimate defense.
Get Kalif Barnes in there now at ORT. Anybody, even on one leg, would be an improvement over Green.
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Maybe so but for now Shuaghnessy will nto start over Scott until further notice. We do need a MLB as well as more physical LBs but the best three we have are Howard,Morrison and Brown.
Yes Khalif needs to get well in a hurry. Green is the worse player on the roster outside of Farglass
September 6th, 2009 at 1:41 pm
Just a thought could it be a win win trade. I mean NE had a glut of DEs and we had a dearth so we both get something good out of the deal. Are we becoming friends with NE??? They bailed us out of the Randy Moss fiasco and they got a win as well. Then they bailed us out of the Burgess probelm and gave us some decent value. Now they gave us a shot at a really good but aging player. Just a thought
September 6th, 2009 at 1:41 pm
Brien, Dakota, and others, I would like to see a two page essay submitted to this blog by next Saturday. I look forward to the discussion.
September 6th, 2009 at 1:41 pm
# RaiderRon Says:
September 6th, 2009 at 1:40 pm
Brein,
Didnt say anything about Fargas.
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Not yet
September 6th, 2009 at 1:42 pm
Where will Seymour play? DT, DE?
September 6th, 2009 at 1:42 pm
Whatever Brein. Good post. LOL! Freakn joker
September 6th, 2009 at 1:45 pm
Dakota
He will play both as Marshall shifts positions during QB’s cadence to gain match up advantage. This trade is a compliment and helping hand to our new DC. He needed one because we still are hurting on run defense. Don’t untrain bad habits overnight.
September 6th, 2009 at 1:47 pm
Brien, good posts. I would like the Raiders to sign Pollard cut by the Chiefs. I thought he was a banger and would be excellent on special teams
September 6th, 2009 at 1:47 pm
Autumnwind, if Al Davis doesn’t meddle, what does he do? Give us a run down of what Al Davis does in regards to football operations?
September 6th, 2009 at 1:47 pm
Hey, if this somehow takes Scott of the field, then we are already 100% better against the run than we were yesterday at this time.
2011 1st round pick…ouch, but if Seymour can stay healthy and play at a high level for four or five more years then well worth it.
September 6th, 2009 at 1:47 pm
Dakota,
We have two major needs on the D-line – RDT & RDE. If Bryant can step up big time I can see him starting next to Kelly and then using Seymore at RDE. If Bryant doesn’t come on strong quickly, I see Seymore next to Kelly at RDT and then, like I said on an earlier post, Shaughnessy at RDE. Scott won’t be at RDE on running downs because he can’t stop the run whereas Shaughnessy can.
September 6th, 2009 at 1:48 pm
Nothing like giving up a top 10 pick for a rental player! I mean this team is just one player away from a contender. LOL! Why am I even surprised????
September 6th, 2009 at 1:48 pm
Al Davis “meddled” and traded for R Seymour.
You’re only as good as your last transaction.
Al is batting 1000.
September 6th, 2009 at 1:48 pm
Wow. Barnes is already back on the field? I thought he was out till Week 2 or 3.
Joseph didn’t deserve to get cut. He played great this preseason. I thought he finally turned the corner and could push Kelly and Warren for a starting spot.
September 6th, 2009 at 1:49 pm
…of course, if he leaves after one season, it would be a disaster…
September 6th, 2009 at 1:49 pm
How do we get into the draft Andrew????
September 6th, 2009 at 1:49 pm
Dakota,
You know he only has a year left on his contract, right??
September 6th, 2009 at 1:51 pm
Michael Moore should do a film on the Raiders and how bad Al Davis has screwed them up. But he’s probably a Raider fan.
September 6th, 2009 at 1:51 pm
Exactly, RaiderRon. The Seymour trade is a glass of water on a house fire.
September 6th, 2009 at 1:52 pm
Dakota
That’s the best part about Seymour, at 6′6 310 he can play inside and outside, he’s made the Pro Bowl as DT and DE and he can be moved around looking for the best match up.
He only comes off the field for rest, not because it’s a rushing or passing down, he’s good at both, as opposed to a big NT or a pass-rushing specialist who need to be replaced depending on down and distance.
That being said, I’m not sure where will he start, right now I’d say RDE, that’s our biggest weakness…and he’ll help out Warren a lot, Kelly and Ellis can stay on the left side.
September 6th, 2009 at 1:53 pm
Autumnwind, you still here? You said Al Davis doesn’t meddle. What does he do? Why do you always see people saying “if Al does this”, “if Al does that”, what are they talking about? Al doesn’t meddle, right? Give me a breakdown as to what Al Davis’s role with the team is.
September 6th, 2009 at 1:53 pm
# RaiderLen Says:
September 6th, 2009 at 1:41 pm
MoRon, We’ve got Seymour for this season, and if a contract is not hammered out soon, Al can franchise Him.
By the way, Al always keeps the players He wants.
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Len bringing civility and common sense to the blog………as usual
September 6th, 2009 at 1:54 pm
Al can probably scrape together enough $$ to get Seymour signed if he makes it through the year and is a difference maker…he’ll just make him the highest paid d-lineman in the NFL to entice him to stay with Oakland.
September 6th, 2009 at 1:54 pm
Marley, that’s a nice write up on Seymour. What will you be saying about him when he blows his top and lashes out at the organization just like Sapp did?
September 6th, 2009 at 1:54 pm
# CaptainBlack Says:
September 6th, 2009 at 1:47 pm
Brien, good posts. I would like the Raiders to sign Pollard cut by the Chiefs. I thought he was a banger and would be excellent on special teams
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Pollard is interesting but for some reason we are holding on to trash like Hiram Eugene and Michael Huff. Pollard did catch Dmac on that 50 yard run last year. Al is in love with speed and usually speed only
September 6th, 2009 at 1:55 pm
AD has demonstrated that he can work contract deals when he wants to. Witness Asomugha & Lechler. Who would have thought he was going to be able to get both of them? That was a real deal. I’m not worried about resigning Seymore. AD just needs to pull his checkbook out and make him the highest paid DE. It works everytime. Isn’t next year a no-cap year?
September 6th, 2009 at 1:55 pm
# Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
September 6th, 2009 at 1:41 pm
Brien, Dakota, and others, I would like to see a two page essay submitted to this blog by next Saturday. I look forward to the discussion.
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Sorry my essay writing days are over. Nice try though
September 6th, 2009 at 1:55 pm
Man, if you can keep Ellis, Kelly, Warren and Seymour on the field at the same time, that would be huge…might even make Warren look acceptable…
September 6th, 2009 at 1:56 pm
Which is better news…Seymour to the Raiders or Merriman busted for assault?
September 6th, 2009 at 1:58 pm
JB, Al still needs to stop being stubborn and find some real LBs. Brandon Spikes will be in the draft this year but Al would pass him up since he generally doesnt like LBs that high
September 6th, 2009 at 1:58 pm
Marley, is your positive write up on Seymour similar to what you were saying about Sapp when we signed him in ‘04?
September 6th, 2009 at 1:58 pm
MR
I am not there but based on past reports over the years AD screws with coaches by direct probably unwelcomed second guessing often times done directly with players. Like they say he is a players owner.
He undermines coaches by directly interacting with
coordinators and assistants at times and creating confusion. He often will not allow head coaches to hire/fire their own staff. However, if someone is winning he backs off as in the Gruden years. He will tend to meddle less if he is dealing with someone he respects even if he may not agree with them at times. He is an arrogant and proud man that does not realize that his coaches are working 70+ hours a week and are putting things together as a package and meddling can undo everything.
Having said all this he was once a position coach, a head coach, an owner and a league commissioner. He knows a lot about football and that causes him to hold on to tight and not delegate enough. I have been following the Raiders since childhood and this depiction I think is accurate but I do not think he calls in plays or calls down and tells them to do bump and run etc… His influnce is a little less direct than that. Also I do not believe that Warren Sapp is a reliable source….
September 6th, 2009 at 2:00 pm
Dakota Says:
September 6th, 2009 at 1:54 pm
Al can probably scrape together enough $$ to get Seymour signed if he makes it through the year and is a difference maker…he’ll just make him the highest paid d-lineman in the NFL to entice him to stay with Oakland.
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Especially if he performs and produces another pro bowl appearance and our D goes from 27th to like 16th. I’m happy with that for a start
September 6th, 2009 at 2:00 pm
Autumwind, how do you know Al Davis backed off during the Gruden years? As you said, you aren’t there. Funny how you can’t really respond to accusations that he meddles due to your not being there, but you can insist as fact that Al Davis did not meddle when Gruden was there. Get real.
September 6th, 2009 at 2:01 pm
post 71.
It is a double edged sword with AD.
September 6th, 2009 at 2:02 pm
ANYONE SEE THIS ONE!
San Diego County Sheriff’s Lt. Gary Steadman says 27-year-old Tila Tequila signed a citizen’s arrest warrant early Sunday, charging Merriman with battery and false imprisonment.
Tequila was taken to a hospital. Her condition was not immediately available.
Merriman, 25, was taken into custody by deputies who responded to a distress call at his home in Poway, north of San Diego.
Tequila, whose real name is Tila Nguyen, is best known for her MTV dating reality show, “A Shot at Love with Tila Tequila.”
ALL better for us.
September 6th, 2009 at 2:02 pm
Seymour probably going to play DT.
Cable praised William Joseph play during preseason and now he cuts him. Maybe we should have cut Richardson or Warren.
I would like to see Seymour play DE instead of Scott. He is big for a 4-3 DE, but Kelly played DE too and is about the same size. Mario Williams play DE too and he is about 295 too. Let Scott as a pass rusher.
September 6th, 2009 at 2:02 pm
If Seymour can pressure the QB and make a difference against the run, then I might have to re-evaluate my 6-10 prediction…..
hmmm….
hmmm….
damn, I just can’t do it until I see him play…and I see McFadden get carries…
September 6th, 2009 at 2:02 pm
repost:
when people complain and have good points its no big deal but people are complaining about the Raiders picking up a veteran presence, a pro bowl player and someone who picked up 8 sacks from a 3-4 DE position? oh and was a key part of a defense that has shut down the run for years? i can only imagine you guys at your kids little league football games. I can see you standing behind the coach screaming “your calling the wrong plays!” as your kid leaps off the bench to cheer another touchdown. This deal makes sense for a lot of reasons.
1. Seymour is a proven talent. He’s a pro-bowl talent at both the DT and the DE position. he made 52 tackles last year his best year since ‘03 and his highest sack total in his career.
2. He makes other teams account for him and that should free up the other lineman and linebackers to make plays.
3. He lets potential future FA’s know that the Raiders are serious about winning regardless of what ESPN says. The Raiders saw a need and made a move to fix it.
4. If that pick does end up being a top 10 pick do we really want to pay another unproven rookie some huge amount of $$ (see M. Huff, who at the time was a consensus “future pro-bowler” or a rookie who pulls a Crabtree). And we can still move up and pick for need.
It’s a good move and a major upgrade from last year.
September 6th, 2009 at 2:03 pm
Dakota…….Warren will never be acceptable. Seymour starts next to Kelly if the Raiders are smart
September 6th, 2009 at 2:03 pm
Good to see Holland, Norris and Boyd in the PS. I hope 45 is Reece too.
September 6th, 2009 at 2:03 pm
Brien, you are right about the LB positions – especially MLB. Historically, AD doesn’t like LB’s at high draft positions. Maybe next year will be different. Remember, AD doesn’t have all that many sunsets left and he desperately wants to win the big one once again before he checks out. If our main need is for a MLB he may just go for it in the draft or more likely trade for someone who’s proven talent. I don’t see AD planning out for more that 2 or 3 years. Just my observation.
September 6th, 2009 at 2:03 pm
Ghost2thepost, we’ve been talking about Meriman all day. I don’t think he’ll be suspended for our game. If anything, Goodell will slap him on the wrist for merely hanging out with a crazy woman like Tila.
September 6th, 2009 at 2:04 pm
Al Davis would use the franchise tag or throw big money at a guy like Seymore. Decisions like that are why this team is where it is today. Patriots wanted no part of it but Al Davis does.Hmmmmm… wonder whos right??
September 6th, 2009 at 2:06 pm
And, Autumwind, as I asked you earlier, is it just a coincidence that all of our defensive coordinators wind up using man coverage and little blitzing? I mean, considering Davis has no involvement in defensive game planning… Wow. When are we going to roll the dice and wind up with a defensive coordinator who’s more versatile scheme wise? Poor old Al. Keeps hiring these defensive coordinators thinking they’re going to bring our defense into the 21st century for a change, and they just turn out to be advocates for the old 11 on 11 Cover 0. OK, Autumwind…
September 6th, 2009 at 2:07 pm
Maybe this move will motivate Kelly to play up to his potential!!!!
Yeah, probably not…never mind.
September 6th, 2009 at 2:07 pm
# El Tato Says:
September 6th, 2009 at 2:02 pm
Seymour probably going to play DT.
Cable praised William Joseph play during preseason and now he cuts him. Maybe we should have cut Richardson or Warren.
I would like to see Seymour play DE instead of Scott. He is big for a 4-3 DE, but Kelly played DE too and is about the same size. Mario Williams play DE too and he is about 295 too. Let Scott as a pass rusher.
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The run defense still suffered when Kelly was the RDE. Using Mario Williams isnt a good example because he is a freak of nature and gets double digit sacks. Seymour at DE isnt a good IMO. Warren would still be starting. That is the main problem outside of Al’s scheme. Let’s pray that Marshall is playing coy and that Seymour’s arrival makes the defense more versatile
September 6th, 2009 at 2:07 pm
Dakota………..we are wishing on a star but getting Seymour better motivate that damn defense period
September 6th, 2009 at 2:08 pm
Autumwind, what do you mean neither one of us is there? You insisted as fact that Davis did not meddle with Gruden. ….despite you “not being there”. Give me a break. Bullshit is oozing out of your ears right now.
September 6th, 2009 at 2:08 pm
#73
Merriman having “Roid Rage”. It’s entirely feasible.
September 6th, 2009 at 2:08 pm
MR
Neighter one of us is there. You can hit me on not being an eye witness if you are not one yourself unless you are John Madden. I can only go by little bits and pieces of what coaches have said over the years as well as some players. Except for WS no one over the years with eye witness knowledge has said AD directly calls in plays. Frankly I think we are in more agreement than not here because we both agree he meddles it is just how specifically and directly he meddles. Also if it is his team and he owns it how much is “meddling” ?? or how much is legit coming in.
I think we can both agree that since Gruden he has made horrendous decisions with coaches and he has not done enough to make Oakland a desirable place to play or coach.
September 6th, 2009 at 2:09 pm
JB, physically dogging a little petite woman isnt going to go well with Nazi Fuhrer ass Goodell. Merriman already suspended for Roids and shit, please he aint getting just a slap for this. Nazi boy aint playing with these negroes at all. Not that I can say I dont blame him
September 6th, 2009 at 2:09 pm
Make that #68 not #73
September 6th, 2009 at 2:11 pm
Repost, because they keep posting my comments before the comments I’m responding to. WTF is up with this blog? Anyhow…
Autumwind, what do you mean neither one of us is there? You insisted as fact that Davis did not meddle with Gruden. ….despite you “not being there”. Give me a break. Bullshit is oozing out of your ears right now.
September 6th, 2009 at 2:12 pm
Good Al Davis. Please keep meddling. Fire that punk for cause if he doesnt like it
September 6th, 2009 at 2:13 pm
Brien, Autumnwind says that Davis doesn’t meddle. What are you talking about?
September 6th, 2009 at 2:13 pm
Al Davis= genius for this move
September 6th, 2009 at 2:13 pm
Brien<———-wants to handle the overhead projector duties for Al Davis
September 6th, 2009 at 2:15 pm
Al Davis meddled to get Garbage-cia cut?
September 6th, 2009 at 2:15 pm
Brien the General Says:
September 6th, 2009 at 2:07 pm
Dakota………..we are wishing on a star but getting Seymour better motivate that damn defense period
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I think if I were a player on the Defensive side of the ball and My Coach tells Me we’ve just traded for R Seymour… that just might fire Me up.
Anytime you add a player with Credibility/History, Pro Bowls etc…It’s an immediate “juice” to entire morale and outlook of the Team.
This kind of move gets Players excited.
September 6th, 2009 at 2:15 pm
Maybe that was you handling the overhead projector duties for Al Davis, Brien. Or, should we say…John.
September 6th, 2009 at 2:15 pm
Raider Len………are you the same one from RF.net?
September 6th, 2009 at 2:16 pm
I was hoping the Pats would throw Wilfork into the trade as well for an extra 5th rounder…damn!
September 6th, 2009 at 2:16 pm
Al Davis puts on entertaining press conferences, that’s for sure. But the man simply does not win on the football field anymore. Which makes his antics like last years’ press conference nothing more than a desperate side show.
September 6th, 2009 at 2:16 pm
MR
We end up with man coverage and blitzing because that is the type of coor we have been hiring such as Shaw etc… Ryan was just an idiot. I would have meddled with him myself! Remember when he first came he tried to put a large DE as a linebacker as well as another that had no businees being DEs. The whole 3-4 experiment was a joke. Then he went on and in 06 was the 3rd rated def. but teams whould not throw on us because they usually did not have to and had leads because our offense was so bad. Every year the run defense has been horrible with that guy. AD in allowing Cable to hire Marshall has allowed a DC with a different philosphy. We are in new territory here with the defense. It is like when Gruden or the old Denver coach was here and was instituting the 49ner West Coast Offense. It was a big departure.
September 6th, 2009 at 2:16 pm
“Richard Seymour discussed the possibility of playing the 4-3. Seymour once compared playing the defensive line in the 3-4 to watching paint dry. “I get excited anytime there are more big guys on the defensive line, ” he said.”
Okay Richard, kick some ass in our 4-3!
September 6th, 2009 at 2:17 pm
Correction on #96 I meant no blitzing…..
September 6th, 2009 at 2:17 pm
William Joseph instead of Jay Richardson?
Well I guess that mean Warren and Bryant are our backup DTs. Not bad!
Shaugnessy at LDE and Ellis at RDE with Scott rotating in at both spots.
September 6th, 2009 at 2:18 pm
Alright, Autumwind. It’s just a coincidence that all of our defensive coordinators, no matter what they say we’re going to do, wind up using man coverage and little blitzing. Al has nothing to do with it. Got ya. Tell me, is OJ Simpson innocent, too?
September 6th, 2009 at 2:18 pm
Brien, #94 No Sir.
September 6th, 2009 at 2:19 pm
Now that Mike Mitchell is finally able to practice, how long before he actually plays so we can see what he’s really got? It shouldn’t take much to displace Eugene as a starter.
September 6th, 2009 at 2:20 pm
I wonder what Jim Rome will say on Tuesday. Will he do an Al impersonation about the Seymour trade?
New York J3W accent: ” Acquiring someone with the skills of one Robert Seymour will definitely bring the tough nature the exemplifies the Raider organization. I spoke the move over extensively with Terry Cable and we feel this guy will bring the dominance needed to make the Raider defense the most feared the NFL.”
September 6th, 2009 at 2:20 pm
MR
I did not say AD did not meddle with Gruden. Saying AD backs off can mean he meddles less not that he did not meddle at all – Right?! Are you just argumenative or do you have some sort of disorder?
September 6th, 2009 at 2:22 pm
# jhill Says:
September 6th, 2009 at 2:17 pm
William Joseph instead of Jay Richardson?
Well I guess that mean Warren and Bryant are our backup DTs. Not bad!
Shaugnessy at LDE and Ellis at RDE with Scott rotating in at both spots.
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Jhill how can you not get the fact that Ellis is a LDE? What are you missing my friend? Has the LA smogged messed you up that bad? Oh I guess doing the jerk dancing takes a toll after a while
September 6th, 2009 at 2:22 pm
Dakota Says:
September 6th, 2009 at 2:16 pm
I was hoping the Pats would throw Wilfork into the trade as well for an extra 5th rounder
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Why would they do that? Wilfork can still play. The reason why the Pats make all of these trades with the Raiders is because Al Davis is the only GM in the league dumb enough to give away valuable players and draft picks for shyt. Belichick butters Davis up on camera telling him how he admires him and everything, then offers over the hill players for first round draft picks. Hook, line, and sinker.
September 6th, 2009 at 2:23 pm
Now you admit AD meddles, Autumnwind, hence, saying he only meddled less with Gruden. You’re unreal.
September 6th, 2009 at 2:23 pm
MR
We will see this year with Marshall. At Seattle at times he blitzes a lot when the match ups are right. If we have a game where there is multiple blitz packages and diversity in play calling will you relent??? Remember Marshall is a proven coordiantor and RR when he came here was a position coach who had a famous Dad and brother.
September 6th, 2009 at 2:24 pm
Brien
seymour is over the hill, but Garcia will get us to the playoffs, HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
September 6th, 2009 at 2:24 pm
Over the hill? Seymour is over the hill? Based on what? Last year was his best season since the 2003 super bowl winning year. I’m anxious to hear this one
September 6th, 2009 at 2:24 pm
Shaughnessy is not starting Jhill. Trevor Scott will be until further notice
September 6th, 2009 at 2:25 pm
We’ll find out this season why Seymour was traded, Brien. If you don’t think Bill Belichick plays Al Davis like a fool year after year, you’re in denial. Belichick butters Davis up with all of this “Coach Davis” stuff, then offers Al Davis a bag of dirt for a pot of gold, and Davis gives it right up thinking Belichick is one of the few friends he still has in the league. It’s almost too easy.
September 6th, 2009 at 2:26 pm
You mean other than the fact that I’ve seen him on the right side of our line already?
I’d rather see Ellis and Shuagnessy than Ellis and Scott. If you prefer to keep Scott in your lineup, do your thing.
September 6th, 2009 at 2:26 pm
MR,
I don’t know that Seymour is over the hill…he is what, 29, 30? Had 52 tackles and 8 sacks last season. We’ll see.
Gotta run.
Again…thank you Al for addressing the d-line…you had us all pretty nervous for a while there (Late April through September 6th to be exact), but at least you made a move.
Now work on the LBs and maybe something nice will happen this year for a change.
September 6th, 2009 at 2:26 pm
Also I bet we will see bump and run with blitzing because our corners can handle this. We have the personal to do this with Johnson and Aso. A lot of teams will not try this…. Another thing if he is getting decent pressure with the front four we may not see blitzing with some teams. In other words we have a chess player DC instead of Micheal Moore with a beard!
September 6th, 2009 at 2:26 pm
# Raiderwoj Says:
September 6th, 2009 at 2:24 pm
Brien
seymour is over the hill, but Garcia will get us to the playoffs, HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
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Woj, MR is right though. Garbage-cia is tougher than Seymour so he can handle the chaotic environment in Oakland better
September 6th, 2009 at 2:27 pm
Jhill most teams from time to time switch the DEs in certain instances to get a mismatch against a a certain tackle but Ellis isnt a RDE and it makes you wonder why he never played it in his career and even in the 3-4 he was a OLB on the left side. Come on man
September 6th, 2009 at 2:27 pm
Brien the General Says:
September 6th, 2009 at 2:26 pm
# Raiderwoj Says:
September 6th, 2009 at 2:24 pm
Brien
seymour is over the hill, but Garcia will get us to the playoffs, HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
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Woj, MR is right though. Garbage-cia is tougher than Seymour so he can handle the chaotic environment in Oakland better
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I keep forgetting Garcia is tougher than Tom Brady, Seymour and the incredible hulk, combined! Resign Garcia so he can take us to the promised land!
September 6th, 2009 at 2:28 pm
The Raiders will use Seymour in three different ways. RDE against the run – Kelly and Warren should be the starting DTs (both are too expensive to keep otherwise). DT on 3rd and long and other passing downs. I also suspect the Raiders might throw a few 3:4 or 5:2 sets into the playbook – just to confuse and disorientate. Rob Ryan did that once or twice last season.
Sad for Joseph, it sounded as if he had stepped up this camp. The key player is Shaughnessy. If he shows as a starting RDE, then Seymour can move inside. If not, then Seymour will have to stay outside. Scott returns to his best position – back-up option at LDE.
Good quote from Ross Tucker: “Seymour to Raiders for 2011 1st Rd. Pick. Win-win for Raiders. They get Seymour’s services and won’t mess-up another high draft pick.”
September 6th, 2009 at 2:28 pm
Im just waiting to hear from Seymour. I want to get a gauge of his demeanor and mindset for our squad. Oh yeah Rob Ryan came from New England by the way. Raiders and Pats are friends from the AFL days this isn’t the last transaction that will occur between the two teams.
September 6th, 2009 at 2:28 pm
Brien, in a few short weeks we’re all going to see who’s right and who’s wrong. I’ll be in here to admit I was wrong if we win. If we lose, you’ll be in hiding. Either that or you’ll be in here ducking me. I’m out of here. Later.
September 6th, 2009 at 2:28 pm
Well, based on what I’ve seen from Scott so far, I’d say I am not looking forward to that.
September 6th, 2009 at 2:28 pm
a $100 bet right now will net you $10,000 if the Raiders win the super bowl.
I just cant part with a full 100 maybe 20 though
September 6th, 2009 at 2:30 pm
Scottish the Kiffin Slurper, I agree Seymour will be used a versatle dlineman but I bet you he starts at DT not DE. Warren cant start anymore man or the run defense will still suffer. The guy isnt a run stuffer
September 6th, 2009 at 2:31 pm
MR
I am getting bored with this back and forth. I “admit that AD meddles” – are you kidding me? I have been saying that he meddles ever since the Raiders moved to LA!!! See you later….
September 6th, 2009 at 2:32 pm
Damn I logged on to see the practic Squad and find this, getting Seymour is the kind of player I was talking about but didn’t know if we could get. I neer liked the Wilfork idea and hated the Raji idea. But this is the kind of deal you hope can happen but think it wont.
The Pat’s are betting on a lot of youth which is not bad when you have the coaching and are established power in the league. But it is not gauranteed to work. But my bet is tha it will because their are enough playe left to show the young guy’s how things are done.
I think they’re going to put Seymour in Ellis’ spt and movellis to rush end. Now they can bring Bryat along slowly.
This also allows us to play tha 3/4 lineup much better w/T Kelly and Seymour at DE and Warren at NT. They have shown tha alignment in camp but it was largely ineffective.
Seymour is a definite upgrade over an player we had but you culd not have made me believe the Pat’s would let him go. The play of Joseph lately has obviously helped us make a move such as this.
September 6th, 2009 at 2:33 pm
# The Real MaddenRaider Says:
September 6th, 2009 at 2:28 pm
Brien, in a few short weeks we’re all going to see who’s right and who’s wrong. I’ll be in here to admit I was wrong if we win. If we lose, you’ll be in hiding. Either that or you’ll be in here ducking me. I’m out of here. Later.
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Blah blah blah. No one ducks a person who they habitually slap like a bitch
September 6th, 2009 at 2:33 pm
So Ellis can play RDE “from time to time”, and Scott can play it the rest of the time.
Split hairs if you want to B, it’s not that big of a deal. If Scott can get the job done, fine. If not he goes to the 2nd team. Shaugnessy would be next in line. RDE or LDE, whatever. Best 4 guys on the field.
September 6th, 2009 at 2:34 pm
JHIll,
This works out well. 3 out of 4 D-Lineman should be solid and will help mask an deficiencies in the 4th guy. Most teams in the league would have trouble saying they got 3 of 4 solid players on the D-Line.
Next year, Gerard Warren’s $5M+ contract disappears and Sands’ bloated contract is gone as well which should make signing Seymour fairly easy.
Cool, D-Line should be good to go. Now the LBs have to step up and play the game.
Season’s looking up
September 6th, 2009 at 2:35 pm
Split hairs? No Jhill dont try to backtrack my friend. You said Shaughnessy at LDE and Ellis at RDE. You are saying that as your base D and that isnt going to happen. Notice Cable put Ellis at LDE immediately? Why is that? Because the LDE faces the RT which is the road grader of the Tackles amongst the OL. Also more times than the not the tight end lines up over there. Come on brother
September 6th, 2009 at 2:35 pm
Bob Marley Says:
September 6th, 2009 at 1:35 pm
I read an interesting comment about the value of the trade…
Last year, the Vikings traded a 1st and two 3rd round picks for Jared Allen.
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Allen is a younger every down DE specializing as possibly the premier pass rusher in the league. Those credentials would garner a higher value, but all in all Bob, I think we did pretty well, if Big Sey shows up with a desire to impress.
September 6th, 2009 at 2:36 pm
The Seymour trade only makes sense if the Raiders pick was lower than No20 in 2011. That effectively means we have two seasons to get to 10:6 at worse. 2009 will be tough because of the schedule – we have a weak AFC West but some horror road-trips. 8:8 will be reasonable for 2009 but only as a base for a play-off run in 2010.
September 6th, 2009 at 2:36 pm
I get a kick out of you Davis sycophants so eager to give him credit for this trade, like he’s got his old mojo (circa 1970s) back. It’s his disastrous personnel decisions, from Hall, Kelley, Sands, Joseph to passing up Ngata–who’d we get instead? please remind me–that led to this last minute act of near desperation. You guys still don’t get it, do you? He doesn’t know what he’s doing. This team is looking at maybe six wins, that’s if JMR shows decent progress. Then where will you be in December? Dreaming about the draft probably. Numb nuts.
September 6th, 2009 at 2:37 pm
Wait wait! Decent progress by Russell nets us 6 wins when last year he had 5 wins? You are making zero sense now
September 6th, 2009 at 2:40 pm
This really is huge. Greg Ellis came in here and played well in what little action we saw in the preseason. Kelly played fairly well. We all know Seymours potential. Who are you going to double?? Or do you keep your backs and TE’s in?? Or do you just try to run at Ellis?? This should be interesting. Expect to Win!
September 6th, 2009 at 2:40 pm
Of course Al was desperate but you guys arent giving him credit for not being the usual stubborn bastard that he is by going with the lineup they used in the preseason?
September 6th, 2009 at 2:41 pm
Jhill, Shauaghnessey looked very good vs the Seachickens. Tht kid can flat out play. In his senior year you could see if he were healthy that he was capable of tha type of play but to actualy see it was great. If Mitchell can cme in and bring his physicality it could further transform this defense.
September 6th, 2009 at 2:42 pm
Oakglenn I expect wins no matter who is here but yes I expect to win Sept 14th. This was a drastic change for a our team. High character guy who is a perennial pro bowler 3 time champion. That has to help the team
September 6th, 2009 at 2:42 pm
Ohioraider= just ignores the fact the Raiders dont have old ass slug WRs like Lelie,curry and Walker as the top 3 guys or the fact that Kwame Harris is gone and also that Khalif Barnes will be starting eventually and he is an upgrade over Green.
Some moves al has done deserves harsh criticism and the archives shown that from me but this move was great
September 6th, 2009 at 2:42 pm
Basically here’s the summary:
Oakland Raiders trade Derrick Burgess and a 1st rounder in 2011 for:
Richard Seymour and a 3rd and 5th rounder in 2010
We get a better player in Seymour….and the extra 3rd and 5th rounder mitigates somewhat the loss of the 1st rounder.
That’s a good deal overall no matter how the pundits try to spin it.
September 6th, 2009 at 2:43 pm
Many different looks available.
3-3-5
DE – Kelly
DT – Seymour
DE Shaugnessy
Scott stands up and finds a seam.
September 6th, 2009 at 2:44 pm
Jhill, yeah I believe they will give many different fronts on D
September 6th, 2009 at 2:44 pm
Brien the General Says:
September 6th, 2009 at 2:40 pm
Of course Al was desperate but you guys arent giving him credit for not being the usual stubborn bastard that he is by going with the lineup they used in the preseason?
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This is the best insight of the day! The fact that the Raiders acknowledged internally that they needed help on the D-Line. That’s huge!
They could have just gone ahead and blamed Rob Ryan and talked about gap discipline.
They added a big-time talent. One of the best at his position and still in his prime.
Good day!
September 6th, 2009 at 2:45 pm
BHP, I’d love to see if Mitchell can handle biz but that is a big unknown. He didnt play all preseason
September 6th, 2009 at 2:45 pm
SnB, no Al Davis hater will give a logical answer to that question
September 6th, 2009 at 2:45 pm
SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
September 6th, 2009 at 2:42 pm
Basically here’s the summary:
Oakland Raiders trade Derrick Burgess and a 1st rounder in 2011 for:
Richard Seymour and a 3rd and 5th rounder in 2010
We get a better player in Seymour….and the extra 3rd and 5th rounder mitigates somewhat the loss of the 1st rounder.
That’s a good deal overall no matter how the pundits try to spin it
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You telling me you wouldn’t do this deal if presented in its totality.
Haters need to stand down. Al Davis did good for a change! And you all know I have not been a big supporter of many of his recent moves!
September 6th, 2009 at 2:46 pm
Really good deal if it’s the 31st pick!
September 6th, 2009 at 2:46 pm
Backtrack? Are u serious?
Check the earlier post between Vegas and I where I said I could care less where he plays.
LDE because it was an open spot due to the Burgess situation. They also thought Scott was a viable option at RDE.
This really shouldn’t be that hard.
From what I’ve seen, Shaugnessy is a better option at DE than Scott is. JMO. I have NO PROBLEM playing Ellis at RDE and Shaugnessy at LDE.
September 6th, 2009 at 2:47 pm
SnB, WOW when you loook at it that way, we made good. I love Seymour as a player he is exactly the type of player that I envisioned TK eventually becoming and that could still happen. But let metell you this Bryant kid will learn a ton from a vet like Seymour and Bryant IMO is more athletic.
As I think of it more I love this move.
September 6th, 2009 at 2:51 pm
Priesttj,
The deal is a fantastic deal. Seymour is no aging veteran. He is in his prime and the Pats smartly were thinking cap. They gotta re-sign Wilfork AND Tom Brady. No money left so they got what they could.
As for the Raiders, my biggest complaint of late was the need for another difference maker in the Front 7. Someone that could make the guys around him better and a guy the opponent has to account for in the game plan.
Seymour is that guy. It will be interesting to see how much Tommy Kelly benefits from this move. With Seymour and Ellis at each side, TK should be able to realize is potential. And if that happens, suddenly we have a pretty good D-Line!
Great move today!
September 6th, 2009 at 2:52 pm
SnB, acknowledging something and pulling off a move like this are two very diferent things. Geting a player of this calibre is extremely difficult. This was obviously a payback move. These are the kind of players that cost 2 1st or at least a 1st and a 3rd or something.
We knew we were sick but getting better is not as easy as you guy’s want to believe. Everbody wants this player and that player but I wanted a GREAT player and we finally got one.
September 6th, 2009 at 2:52 pm
Brien the General’s proposal for Sept 14th
LDE: Greg Ellis
UT: Tommy Kelly
NT: Richard Seymour
RDE: Trevor Scott
WLB: Thomas Howard
MLB: The air(Morrison/Brown)
SLB: The air(Morrison/Brown)
RCB: Chris Johnson
SS: Tyvon Branch
FS: Hiram Eugene
LCB: Nnamdi Asomugha
Nickel Back: Stanford Routt
Dime Back: Michael Huff
September 6th, 2009 at 2:54 pm
# jhill Says:
September 6th, 2009 at 2:46 pm
Backtrack? Are u serious?
Check the earlier post between Vegas and I where I said I could care less where he plays.
LDE because it was an open spot due to the Burgess situation. They also thought Scott was a viable option at RDE.
This really shouldn’t be that hard.
From what I’ve seen, Shaugnessy is a better option at DE than Scott is. JMO. I have NO PROBLEM playing Ellis at RDE and Shaugnessy at LDE.
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You are entitled you your own view but how is Shaughnessy so much better than Scott? Oh because how he handles those recent cut players? Scott is a better pass rusher and that is mainly what you are looking for from a RDE. Now mind Scott hasnt looked great in preseason but let’s see how he is in the course of a 60 minute game. I’m willing to bet that guy causes hell this season. Shaughnessy is an average pass rusher to me but he looks better vs the run. Scott also can drop back into coverage much better than Shaughnessy who is an injure prone player
September 6th, 2009 at 2:54 pm
But it will instead be
Ellis
Kelly
Seymour
Shaugnessy
Howard
Morrison
Brown
Huff
Branch
Nnamdi
Johnson
Eugene off the bench in nickel situations with Huff moving to Rover.
September 6th, 2009 at 2:55 pm
Might be Mitchell instead of Eugene in the nickel. We always have 3 Ss on the field.
September 6th, 2009 at 2:56 pm
It as simple as this ….
If Scott gets the job done, he should play.
If not, he shouldn’t.
So far, he has BY FAR been the worst person on our defense. How many games does he get?
September 6th, 2009 at 2:56 pm
We could’ve drafted the Dt’s in this draft but I honestly didn’t see anyone that got me excited. There were no great players at DT in that draft the players we had were better IMO. But this is a definite upgrade IMO.
September 6th, 2009 at 2:57 pm
SnB, the key for Tommy Kelly is the fact that he wont get doubled so much due to Seymour being in the vicinity. Kelly gets more chances with one on one matchups against the Right Guard. What will really help is if we send blitzer more than often
September 6th, 2009 at 2:57 pm
Jay Richardson is comin into his 3rd year with Marshal as his DC now not Ryan, and he’s still recovering from knee surgery. We know Scott is havin lots of problems against the run, So once Richardson heals totally can he be a legite Base end on the right side?
September 6th, 2009 at 2:57 pm
FROM WHAT IVE SEEN THIS YEAR THE ONLY GOOD D-LINEMAN WE HAVE IS A OLDER PROVEN VETERAN FROM ANOTHER TEAM. ELLIS IS THE ONLY PLAYER TO DATE WHO HAS BEEN IN THE BACKFIELD AND MAKING PLAYS.
SEYMOUR WILL BE THE SAME (EXCEPT YOUNGER AND FASTER VERSION).
AS MUCH AS I HATE AL DAVIS BURGESS AND A FIRST IN 2011 FOR SEYMOUR A 3RD AND A 5TH IS A GOOD TRADE. THEY WOULD NOT HAVE TRADED A FIRST WITHOUT A CONTRACT WAITING FOR SEYMOUR.
NOW WE JUST NEED
ED REED
ALBERT HAYNESWORTH
LANCE BRIGGS
September 6th, 2009 at 2:58 pm
Post 130,yes AL makes mistakes,look at the last six years,some of that is on the players as well.I Love the move,period!Al is doing what he does,Try and Win it All,see what happens,but Im Jacked for this team,this season RAIDERS!!!!!!! Hey O,you done doing back flips in the front room?
September 6th, 2009 at 2:58 pm
Great move today!
148.priesttj Says:
September 6th, 2009 at 2:52 pm
SnB, acknowledging something and pulling off a move like this are two very diferent things. Geting a player of this calibre is extremely difficult. This was obviously a payback move. These are the kind of players that cost 2 1st or at least a 1st and a 3rd or something.
We knew we were sick but getting better is not as easy as you guy’s want to believe. Everbody wants this player and that player but I wanted a GREAT player and we finally got one.
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The key is a GREAT player. And just in time too. The run defense should get a lot better. And if we can shut down one-dimensional run teams like Denver (2), K.C(2), Jets, Cleveland, Redskins – this move should = 7 wins alone.
Add in teams that would like to run 1st…like the Giants and Ravens…and suddenly this season could look interesting.
If we can get teams into more 3rd and 7(s) and more, this plays right into the hands of the secondary. And with Seymour, Kelly, Ellis and Scott should have an easier time getting to the QB on those 3rd downs!
September 6th, 2009 at 2:59 pm
Jhill, Shaughnessy may not even get a snap against SD let alone start. Scott is starting against SD point blank. Huff starts? LOL you cant be serious. Eugene in over Routt in Nickel packages? Put the juice down my friend
September 6th, 2009 at 3:00 pm
POST #130 WE MAY BE SUFFERING HERE FOR THE LAST 6 YEARS BUT AT LEAST WERE NOT LIVING IN OHIO I WOULD RATHER TAKE A SCIANIDE PILL THAN LIVE IN OHIO GO f$%k YOURSELF
September 6th, 2009 at 3:01 pm
# jhill Says:
September 6th, 2009 at 2:56 pm
It as simple as this ….
If Scott gets the job done, he should play.
If not, he shouldn’t.
So far, he has BY FAR been the worst person on our defense. How many games does he get?
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No Gerard Warren has been the worse by far. He lack of discipline leaves the D out to dry.
If Scott aint doing the job then he gotta sit down. Plain and simple but I see him doing quite fine throughout the season
September 6th, 2009 at 3:02 pm
priesttj Says:
September 6th, 2009 at 2:56 pm
We could’ve drafted the Dt’s in this draft but I honestly didn’t see anyone that got me excited. There were no great players at DT in that draft the players we had were better IMO. But this is a definite upgrade IMO
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They needed to something and they did!
I am all ready and pumped up for the season. Addressed a critical area of concern.
I am all good with the offseason regardless of how it turns out.
They did what they could to legitimately get better.
September 6th, 2009 at 3:02 pm
Brien,Shauaghnessey is hands down a better DE than Scott, it’s not even close. If you honestly and objectively watch the Seattle game and still tell me Scott is better then we need to talk………………period.
September 6th, 2009 at 3:02 pm
Seymour lessens our need for a dominant MLB. For Now.
September 6th, 2009 at 3:03 pm
Are u trying to win Brien?
Have you seen Routt in the nickle package? Maybe that’s why our 3rd down defense is so bad. He’s awful. I think I’m ready to see Bowie.
And if you are questioning 3 Safeties on the field, then you haven’t been playing attention. Huff and Baker were on the field more than Routt last year. What makes you think it will be any different?
September 6th, 2009 at 3:04 pm
BHP let’s talk. Because last preseason Scott was making plays and no one called for him to start. He was doing it vs scrubs as well
September 6th, 2009 at 3:04 pm
won’t get a snap? LMFAO!
You are trippin!
September 6th, 2009 at 3:05 pm
# UP LOCOMOTIVE ENGINEER Says:
September 6th, 2009 at 3:00 pm
POST #130 WE MAY BE SUFFERING HERE FOR THE LAST 6 YEARS BUT AT LEAST WERE NOT LIVING IN OHIO I WOULD RATHER TAKE A SCIANIDE PILL THAN LIVE IN OHIO GO f$%k YOURSELF
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Yeah!
September 6th, 2009 at 3:08 pm
Trevor Scott needs to start because he is white. When the Patriots were winning Super Bowls, they had white guys on their defense. You can’t win in this league without a stud white guy.
September 6th, 2009 at 3:08 pm
# jhill Says:
September 6th, 2009 at 3:03 pm
Are u trying to win Brien?
Have you seen Routt in the nickle package? Maybe that’s why our 3rd down defense is so bad. He’s awful. I think I’m ready to see Bowie.
And if you are questioning 3 Safeties on the field, then you haven’t been playing attention. Huff and Baker were on the field more than Routt last year. What makes you think it will be any different?
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No I’ve seen Routt in base D packages and it wasnt nice at all. Bowie? My god I know they sprinkle your weed with sherm now. Routt was in the doghouse last year and admitted as much due to his play. Supposedly we have a different defensive coordinator right? So obviously for him to even get a look at starting early on meant he did something to better himself
September 6th, 2009 at 3:10 pm
I am tripping? I think Jay Richardson is ahead of him on the depth chart. Shaughnessy is the 4th DE on the team. Richardson will see snaps before he does
September 6th, 2009 at 3:10 pm
Trevor Scott needs to start because he is white. When the Patriots were winning Super Bowls, they had white guys on their defense. You can’t win in this league without a stud white guy
September 6th, 2009 at 3:10 pm
Jhill maybe Routt is why our third down defense is bad? You are a much smarter guy than that. I know you are
September 6th, 2009 at 3:10 pm
Brien, just wach th Seattle game it answers all questions about Scott and MS. Shauaghnessey was very good and I mean very good. If yo watch his clege film you could see he had this ability but watching the Seattle game sealed it for me. He played in a run oriented league and it shows he is just very stout on the corner and gives you a very decent edge rush whichin time should get muc better.
September 6th, 2009 at 3:10 pm
It’s funny how you use your arguments to support the players you like.
So the fact that Huff has that same new D Coordinator whose giving him the same look at starting doesn’t mean he did something to get himself out of that same dog house?
Too funny!
September 6th, 2009 at 3:11 pm
Here’s my summary of the days events!
http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=MC+Hammer+%22Its+all+good%22&qs=n&docid=1231932162311&mid=CC7AD581B5B20B2D9E39CC7AD581B5B20B2D9E39&FORM=VIVR#
September 6th, 2009 at 3:13 pm
Oh ok BHP, the one series for Scott vs the many for Shaughnessy. I got ya
September 6th, 2009 at 3:14 pm
LOL,
Shaugnessy is the 2nd team LDE and Richards is the 2nd team RDE. Or at least that was the case in the last game. Richards did not get ONE SNAP at LDE, and you know that doesn’t bode well for him.
September 6th, 2009 at 3:14 pm
Huff started off as the starter this preseason like Routt? Huff only started due to the fact Eugene was out sick and missed that weak of practice and hurt his pussy like the wimp he is
September 6th, 2009 at 3:14 pm
LOL Jhill you just cut yourself. RDE RDE RDE RDE RDE. We are talking about Trevor Scott right?
September 6th, 2009 at 3:15 pm
Guess who I am!!
I hate a pro football team and I especially hate its owner. I have spent the last 4 years at a second rate Raider blog saying negative things about the team, the owner, the players, the fans, the other bloggers, the cheerleaders, the parking, the tail gating and any other thing under the sun.
I dont just post there once or twice or twenty times a day. I post over 100 posts a day 24/7/52/365. Not even hardcore Raider fans display that level of devotion. I may not have a life or a job or a girlfriend but the negative attention I get at Raider blog far surpases any feelings of love I have ever had.
Right or wrong does not matter in my vendetta against Al. All that matters is the warm fuzzies I get.
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I know everyone is thinking that no such person exist. But I assure you this story is true. I realize it is difficult so everyone gets three guesses at his idenity.
Good luck and
Dont bother responding
September 6th, 2009 at 3:15 pm
Routt was not the anoited starter this preseason. CJ was hurt early on. He was in a battle the same way Huff and Eugene are. It’s undisputed.
September 6th, 2009 at 3:16 pm
everyone is throwing line up changes around and giving their insight
I cant wait for cable to say something about this trade
My opinions:
Richardson, Seymour, Kelly, Ellis on run downs
Scott, Kelly, Seymour, Ellis on pass downs
3-4 is not gonna happen ppl we do not have the LB’s say what u want but our LB’s are all under 240lbs except Sam williams who sucks. 3-4 LB’s need to be all 250+ in the middle to stop the run and basically hybrid DE’s on the outside to rush the passer. We dont have the MLB’s
Scott could play OLB but has never done it so I am doubt we go into this season with a 3-4 just all of the sudden.
4-3 is our Base thats, thats what Al likes, thats what we will run. Even Cable said we are a 4-3 team with or without Seymour.
September 6th, 2009 at 3:16 pm
Routt is not physical on the corner he is one reason why we stunk against the run, he just doesn’t give the support you should get from the corner. I saw Bowie do that and that is why he’s still here. He can bump & run and provide force against the run.
To stop the run you must have every player comitted to stop the run and Bowie has that mentality. So does Nanadi and CJ. You have to turn the runner back in or make the tackle. Have you ever seen Routt tackle???
September 6th, 2009 at 3:16 pm
With a name like Shaugnessy, you’d think he would be white. But he is not. That is why Trevor Scott should start. He also has a nice goatee.
September 6th, 2009 at 3:17 pm
Brien,
You must be bored.
You mentioned ACTUAL depth chart. Are you really comparing that to where I THINK the guys should be playing?
Purple time bruh!
September 6th, 2009 at 3:18 pm
Richardson doesnt get one snap at LDE means what? LOL. Means they like his pass rushing skills enough at RDE. I’m not sold onthem myself but he did have 3 sacks last year
September 6th, 2009 at 3:19 pm
Trevor Scott is dreamy.
September 6th, 2009 at 3:19 pm
J Hill opinion ….
Cables’s actual personell decisions ….
Surely you recognize the difference.
You admit that Richardson shouldn’t be on the team either? Can’t pass rush, and can’t play the base end. He’s already been beat out for 2nd team base DE where he SHOULD be playing. Richardson’s time on this team should be coming to an end.
September 6th, 2009 at 3:21 pm
# jhill Says:
September 6th, 2009 at 3:15 pm
Routt was not the anoited starter this preseason. CJ was hurt early on. He was in a battle the same way Huff and Eugene are. It’s undisputed.
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I totally think you are way off here. Why did Routt start the Dallas game? Dont say because CJ was hurt because that was never said come on man
September 6th, 2009 at 3:21 pm
Ellis and Seymour was added to help Tommy Kelly. All this for Derrick “Get me outta here” Burgess and 1st rounder in the distant future. Plus, the 3rd and 5th rounds next year are about equal to a 2nd rounder in 2011….and if the Raiders finish as well as we think is possible, that 1st rounder ain’t even worth that much.
This is a great day!
September 6th, 2009 at 3:21 pm
Huff and Eugene battled lol. Yeah ok. We all know Huff aitn starting over Eugene. Huff is soft and a poodle. Eugene is garbage but at least isnt soft. Neither are good but Eugene is obviously starting
September 6th, 2009 at 3:21 pm
CJ was hurt a lot during early practices. Check it out. He missed a lot of practice time.
September 6th, 2009 at 3:23 pm
Seymour will resign with the Patriots next season, and the Pats will get a top five pick in 2011.
September 6th, 2009 at 3:25 pm
Excuse me Jhill but you cant possibly tell me Shaughnessy is higher on the depth chart than Richardson right? Show me where that was said by Cable. He was beaten out by who? Shaugnessy did nada to deserve that so Im trying to figure where you are making this up from
September 6th, 2009 at 3:25 pm
Your soft argument is laughable. You can have your boy Eugene all day long. You like the way he bumps guys out of bounds? Real hardcore stuff. Let’s see him at SS. I bet he doesn’t last 2 games.
September 6th, 2009 at 3:27 pm
Uh, the game?
Seattle game, last bit of evidence we have, right? 2nd team Dline was Shaugnessy at LDE Joseph and Bryant at DT, and Richardson at RDE.
September 6th, 2009 at 3:27 pm
All the missed tackles Huff has in his career justifies the soft argument. Ever seen him blitz? Garbage
September 6th, 2009 at 3:28 pm
LDE or RDE, which one Jhill? Come on. We were talking Scott at RDE and now you saying a LDE is up above the backup RDE?
BRB, think about it
September 6th, 2009 at 3:28 pm
what makes seymour so great is that he can stuff the run and rush the passer. he can also beat double teams which is something that kelly doesnt do enuff of. thats what makes the great ones great is they can beat most of the odds surrounding them. thats something that cant really be taught. u either have it or u dont.
there is no excuse for this defense to show up unprepared like weve seen them do before. this signing says to the players they are trying to win and they should always play amped up now. he is also a very smart player and god knows we need more of those.
September 6th, 2009 at 3:28 pm
Brien, not to pick on you but, I wouldn’t start Routt over CJ if you put a gun to my head. Routt can cover but the guy wont tackle. Tht hurts your defense.
But I think we have wht we need but we’ll see how it plays out we have got to play with more of a sense of urgency. And finally we have leader that knows what that means.
GREAT DAY TO BE A RAIDER FAN!!
September 6th, 2009 at 3:29 pm
Raiders just officially announced the signing of Seymour on their twitter page.
September 6th, 2009 at 3:30 pm
#202 great post Armond.
September 6th, 2009 at 3:37 pm
Sign Pollard to play SS, and mve Branch to FS, IF Mitchell is not ready to start!
Sign Meredith & Pashos!
Sign Marcus Freeman. He is 6′1 240, and can play MLB & SLB!
Cut Watkins, Sam Williams, Bowie, Walker, and Green.
Trade Fargas!!!!!
September 6th, 2009 at 3:38 pm
My ribs hurt from laughing to much….
Best meltdown EVER!
September 6th, 2009 at 3:39 pm
Al,
I know you are trying, but try harder sir. That Run D is too sorry to play in reg season. Fix it before the Mon game!!!
Add a LB, Oline, and another S. Huff & Eugene are not NFL starters. They are solid Backups, but not starters!
September 6th, 2009 at 3:41 pm
Isn’t it funny how Jerry wanted to immediately put the Kabosh on any Raider Nation excitement?
September 6th, 2009 at 3:43 pm
priesttj Says:
September 6th, 2009 at 3:28 pm
Brien, not to pick on you but, I wouldn’t start Routt over CJ if you put a gun to my head. Routt can cover but the guy wont tackle. Tht hurts your defense.
But I think we have wht we need but we’ll see how it plays out we have got to play with more of a sense of urgency. And finally we have leader that knows what that means.
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I wouldnt start him either BHP. That wasnt my point but as far as Nickel back Routt is just fine for us. Someone like Routt who I even told Jhill on raidernews.com in 2007 should start over Fabian Washington. Well Routt led the team in INTs that year
September 6th, 2009 at 3:44 pm
yeah priest thats why i didnt get into the whole we shouldve taken brace thing. alot of “experts” felt this was one of the WORST dline classes and i heard charlie casserly say that in a normal draft brace would be a 4th or 5th rndr. whos to say thats true but i wasnt too impressed with him hood jerry or raji. this is why patience is a virtue. we got a much better player who can help us now and the future regardless of what the mediots say. a professional who is a winner and will do much more than some 2011 1rst rndr. for a team in desperate need to win this is a great move.
September 6th, 2009 at 3:44 pm
909 you must be talking about MR’s meltdown. The guy says Al has lost but he thinks that a guy who is a 5 time pro bowler at 29 years of age is done but not a 39 year old journeyman qb. It is amazing
September 6th, 2009 at 3:45 pm
Priest,
What Jerry says is true. If Seymore signs an extension its a good deal. If not and he leaves after this year its a bad deal. Right or wrong??
September 6th, 2009 at 3:45 pm
Raider O……………..Huff is a solid wimp
September 6th, 2009 at 3:46 pm
BHP guys like you, Oakglenn,4eva,VegasRaider,Jhill,RaiderLen,408,909 or El Dirty arent picking on me when you disagree. I respect your opinion more than you know. It is good to be pick each other’s brains. Keeps us sharp when we deal with other teams supporters
September 6th, 2009 at 3:47 pm
Whats up with all the JRich hate? He’s a good player coming off surgery.
September 6th, 2009 at 3:47 pm
Whos JRich??
September 6th, 2009 at 3:48 pm
Accd’g to Jerry twit …they’ll use Seymour at RDE and occasionally move him inside …the team is stoked …TKelly’s comments “If we can’t stop the run now…”
September 6th, 2009 at 3:48 pm
munoz you are one stupid mother f*cker. Theres already a contract in place. Put down the crack pipe and step away…
September 6th, 2009 at 3:49 pm
J.Richardson was a former starter and looks much quicker off the line. Due to his experience and new improved burst he should help as a rotational DE. If Scott still stinks it up then richardson will be the starter at RDE. Bank on that.
September 6th, 2009 at 3:50 pm
Would you give up a 1st rnd pick for a player that wont sign with you?? isn’t that something you’d KNOW before the trade?? The pick is conditional to him signing a long term deal, goes without saying.
September 6th, 2009 at 3:50 pm
In what world is Jay Richardson a “good” player?
September 6th, 2009 at 3:50 pm
Dudette! How bout that Farglass starting the opener?
September 6th, 2009 at 3:50 pm
Jerry is a third rate hack journalist who was given the job of covering the Raiders. He didn’t seek it out.
September 6th, 2009 at 3:51 pm
Wow, you talk about an immediate boost – Seymour will start vs SD at RDE.
I’m trying to temper my excitement but gawddamn this is good!
September 6th, 2009 at 3:52 pm
jerry did punkout for hatin like that. this is no where near the deals we made for sapp, hall or moss. if al davis is so bad at making 1rst rnd picks then what is all the bitchin about? u cant have it both ways. alot people scream up down that these young guys get paid 2 much and that they would never take a guy 2 high in the draft over a proven player. now we dont have 2 worry about that and some people still wanna bitch. its so much easier to complain than 2 be happy with what u have.
September 6th, 2009 at 3:53 pm
Barring his hamstring keeping him out, he will get the start. The good thing is we dont have to wait long to find out.
September 6th, 2009 at 3:54 pm
Merriman choked Tila Tequila cause she was going to leave his house!!!!!
Crazy!!! Roid Rage!!!!
September 6th, 2009 at 3:55 pm
Terp how are you so sure he start at RDE? Dont you know Warren starting at NT……excuse me BHP, as the run stuffing DT is a bad idea period?
September 6th, 2009 at 3:55 pm
I know one thing though, the Pats dont f up much with personel decisions. That has to worry Raiderfan a tad. I would trust their decisions WAYYYYYYYY before I trust Al Davis’s. He is 0 for the last decade.
September 6th, 2009 at 3:56 pm
# Raider O Says:
September 6th, 2009 at 3:54 pm
Merriman choked Tila Tequila cause she was going to leave his house!!!!!
Crazy!!! Roid Rage!!!!
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Man aint you in Daygo? Go and console the bitch man. Put her in Raider gear and invite her to the Raider game next week
September 6th, 2009 at 3:57 pm
Dudette – We are again on opposite side of the universe. You belong in the house of Merriman. I do not see Fargas starting. It will more than likely be DMC with the outside shot of MBush. I guess we’ll see who right later. I don’t think this will take long.
September 6th, 2009 at 3:58 pm
I turned on the radio, and the announcer from ESPN said “WHO DID RICHARD SEYMOUR PISS OFF IN NE?? Who ever it was, it must have been a doozy. Seymour found out that he’s going from a filet mignon organization, and a top team, to the equivalent of last weeks leftover spam, and one of the, if not the worst team in the NFL.”
Man, talk about a culture shock.
Is that a players worst nightmare, or what? lol…the guy has to be going ballistic.
I see disaster for the Raiders all over this trade.
Oh sure, you improved your D line, but, as stated, at what cost?
You’ve already lost your #1.
Seymour was 17 or so in sacks last year..not exactly a #1 output.
He’s in the last year of his contract, so either he gets redone now, or it’s a VERY GOOD CHANCE he’s gone after next year.
Now, you all know Al and his dyslexic handling of contracts, so considering his FA total fiasco of ‘08, he just might throw wads of cash at Seymour.
So either way, either you’re going to pay through the nose or lose the guy after one year..AND YOU GAVE UP A #1 PICK FOR THAT?
As Jerry stated, didn’t Mario basically own Seymour?
What does that tell you?
Way to go Al, lol…the Patriots are celebrating as we speak.
September 6th, 2009 at 3:58 pm
Brien – Accd’g to Jerry and David White’s tweets its per Cable. RDE to be moved inside on occasion (or situation if you like).
September 6th, 2009 at 3:58 pm
Like I said before. Bush has been playing special teams, that tells me he wont be that big a part of the offense. It all changes if Fargas is still banged up.
September 6th, 2009 at 3:59 pm
al davis hasnt lost it. remember 11 years ago when people said wed never win with ad running the show? then he hires gruden and we become a winning team again. they also said we couldnt get free agents and we had all those signings last year. it didnt work out but al did what people said he couldnt do. its the same stuff over and over. people automatically assume it will be a top 5 pick 2 years from now. we have 2 years 2 get better and were already written off 2 seasons from now. and theres no media bias right ?
September 6th, 2009 at 4:00 pm
Ok. maybe you do have a few brain cells …i can give you that Bush point playing ST. Now I’m more certain it’ll be DMC.
September 6th, 2009 at 4:00 pm
# Dude Says:
September 6th, 2009 at 3:55 pm
I know one thing though, the Pats dont f up much with personel decisions. That has to worry Raiderfan a tad. I would trust their decisions WAYYYYYYYY before I trust Al Davis’s. He is 0 for the last decade.
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Tyrone Wheatley
William Thomas
Andre Rison
Grady Jackson
Even guys I hate had success here like
Fairy Rice
Charlie Garbager
Bill RomoNazi
I think zero is inaccurate but yes Al has goofed alot
September 6th, 2009 at 4:01 pm
Armond,
Your giving Al credit for those signings? WOW!
Its a more than safe bet the Raiders number 1 in two years will be a high pick. Theyve had more than 5 years to get better and havent done it. What makes you think it will all the sudden change?
September 6th, 2009 at 4:02 pm
Brien, I’m not sure if you are saying Seymour should play NT or not but if you are he’s never played that position before. IMHO I think Warren and Kelly will stay put Seymour will either play LDE or RDE. Preferably LDE and kick inside on passing downs.
September 6th, 2009 at 4:02 pm
Those were all low risk signings. This is a big risk. If Seymore walks after next year its an unmitigated disaster.
September 6th, 2009 at 4:03 pm
Dude Says:
September 6th, 2009 at 3:55 pm
I know one thing though, the Pats dont f up much with personel decisions. That has to worry Raiderfan a tad. I would trust their decisions WAYYYYYYYY before I trust Al Davis’s. He is 0 for the last decade.
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And you would be correctamundo.
In one year, Seymour was gone from NE. they would get nothing. Now? a #1.
And Seymour STILL might be gone in a year.
ONLY WAY HE’S NOT is if Al massively overpays him.
Otherwise, no way in hell he wants to stay in hell.
Unless he’s dead broke, it’s very doubtful he’ll want to spend any extended time in Oakslum.
September 6th, 2009 at 4:03 pm
# Terrapin Says:
September 6th, 2009 at 3:58 pm
Brien – Accd’g to Jerry and David White’s tweets its per Cable. RDE to be moved inside on occasion (or situation if you like).
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We are improved but will then have massive trouble with Warren posing as a run stuffer. This will not work with him in there. Dammit
September 6th, 2009 at 4:04 pm
# Dude Says:
September 6th, 2009 at 3:53 pm
Barring his hamstring keeping him out, he will get the start. The good thing is we dont have to wait long to find out.
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My god the Blue Collar TV comedy tour has stopped on by then
September 6th, 2009 at 4:04 pm
Brien….
Yep…pretty d@mn funny…
I’m sure he is looking at the Garcia and Chucky posters on the ceiling above the bed right now, day dreaming away…or maybe something else…
September 6th, 2009 at 4:06 pm
armond Says:
September 6th, 2009 at 3:59 pm
al davis hasnt lost it. remember 11 years ago when people said wed never win with ad running the show? then he hires gruden and we become a winning team again. they also said we couldnt get free agents and we had all those signings last year. it didnt work out but al did what people said he couldnt do. its the same stuff over and over. people automatically assume it will be a top 5 pick 2 years from now. we have 2 years 2 get better and were already written off 2 seasons from now. and theres no media bias right ?
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Sorry, but all indications are that Al has lost it.
Yeah, players don’t want to play in Oakslum. But if you throw enough money, anyone will come.
So Al stupidly threw big bucks at Hall, and kelly, and Walker, and Wilson, and Harris..and so far those bucks were a total waste.
In two years? NE will likely be getting a top five pick.
Oh, I know…”f you dude”..etc.
doesn’t change the facts that next year you’ll have a new HC, a new OC, and new DC, while hoping you can draft a WR, and d line help…still.
September 6th, 2009 at 4:07 pm
# priesttj Says:
September 6th, 2009 at 4:02 pm
Brien, I’m not sure if you are saying Seymour should play NT or not but if you are he’s never played that position before. IMHO I think Warren and Kelly will stay put Seymour will either play LDE or RDE. Preferably LDE and kick inside on passing downs.
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I’m saying Seymour at the NT next to Kelly makes much more sense than him at the RDE. Seymour rushes the pass well from the inside not as well from the outside. Warren is beyond garbage. As a run stuffing DT you cant takes plays off. Warren does this too much and that is why he has been jetted out of Cleveland and Denver. Tragic bust
September 6th, 2009 at 4:11 pm
Brein,
What makes you so sure Fargas wont start? You must be giving Cable enough credit that he will make the “right” decision.
September 6th, 2009 at 4:12 pm
Brien, why wont it? the guy haseen drawing doubles all preaseason now we have legitmate ends that can flat out bring it. This exactly what we needed IMHO.
It forces them to man up on Warren, this is a much better team now than we were yesterday.
I’m not sure you understand this but NFL coaches do not double BAD players. The mere fact that he does draw doubles should tell you alll you need to know.
September 6th, 2009 at 4:12 pm
Richochet Says:
September 6th, 2009 at 4:06 pm
Sorry, but all indications are that Al has lost it.
Yeah, players don’t want to play in Oakslum. But if you throw enough money, anyone will come.
So Al stupidly threw big bucks at Hall, and kelly, and Walker, and Wilson, and Harris..and so far those bucks were a total waste.
In two years? NE will likely be getting a top five pick.
Oh, I know…”f you dude”..etc.
doesn’t change the facts that next year you’ll have a new HC, a new OC, and new DC, while hoping you can draft a WR, and d line help…still.
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Hey and those Yorks are beacons of success right now for getting Craptree. What kind of numbers do you think he will post against AZ next sunday?
September 6th, 2009 at 4:13 pm
Raider O Says:
September 6th, 2009 at 3:54 pm
Merriman choked Tila Tequila cause she was going to leave his house!!!!!
Crazy!!! Roid Rage!!!!
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Interesting that a detective at the scene stated police noticed no marks on the victim.
Considering Tila “I am an attention whore” Tequila has been old news as of late, why do I have a feeling this will just get lost in the wash, when the DA doens’t press charges, while Tila pouts and demands camera time?
September 6th, 2009 at 4:13 pm
The journalist are jokes …already claiming it’ll be a top 10 pick for Seymour and the Pattsies got the better end of the deal …let the thing play itself out.
Somehow I doubt if they got the better end of the stick. This journalist on NFLN claimed the Pattsies already “fortified” their Dline with Burgess – yeah, he said that …don’t laugh because he was serious …I mean really Burgess better than Seymour ..are you freakin’ kiddin me!
The Raiders just replaced Burgess with 2 probowlers that are better than Burgess!
With the talent on offense this team can go places in 2010. Odds are the pick will be after 15, well after.
September 6th, 2009 at 4:13 pm
# Dude Says:
September 6th, 2009 at 4:11 pm
Brein,
What makes you so sure Fargas wont start? You must be giving Cable enough credit that he will make the “right” decision.
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At least you know not starting Farglass is a right move. Cable doesnt seem like the brightest guy but how bright do you need to be to know Farglass should never start? Well let me stop I just asked a person who lacks any football knowledge a serious question
September 6th, 2009 at 4:13 pm
Al needs to find that extra cash he has stashed in one of his Rascals to hook Seymour up for 3 years…
September 6th, 2009 at 4:15 pm
ITS JUST SO RIDICULOUS I HEAR CALLERS ON DA RADIO SAY ” YEAH DA TEAM WONT GO ANYWHERE UNTIL AL DAVIS DIES.. ” SUM NERVE .. DAT MAN HAS A FAMILYT .
September 6th, 2009 at 4:16 pm
ITS LIKE FANS AND DA MEDIA THINK DAT AL DAVIS IS DA ONLY OLD/ OWNER IN PRO SPORTS …
September 6th, 2009 at 4:17 pm
BUT ANYWAY ..
.. TILA TEQUILQ IS LIKE 4 FOOT 11 . IF MERRIMEN SNEEZED ON HER SHE MIGHT GET A CONCUSSION .
September 6th, 2009 at 4:20 pm
Who did Cable start ALL last year? Who started the first 2 preseason games?
September 6th, 2009 at 4:21 pm
Good deal. But…….Will he just be another player who comes here from a winning organization, and smells the fish, and says that’s odd?
September 6th, 2009 at 4:21 pm
Doriangray, have you ever heard the saying “talk is cheap” They can say whatever they chose because they don’t have to play us. Starting Sept 14th the talking stops ad the playing starts. They can’t help the other team win or lose. They can only talk.
The Raiders must start playing with a sense of team and urgency and the winning will follow.
September 6th, 2009 at 4:24 pm
Well so much for the Trevor Scott debate. Back to the situational role that you played so well.
Surprised they cut Joseph instead of Richardson since Seymour is playing DE.
September 6th, 2009 at 4:24 pm
Raider O Says:
Merriman choked Tila Tequila cause she was going to leave his house!!!!!
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This is what happen to Brandon Marshall in one of his first arrests. He blocked the cab in his driveway so they thru in a kidnapping charge!!! But that was 4 arrests ago. hahahaa
September 6th, 2009 at 4:24 pm
Meant to start off with THOSE, not DOES. Don’t know how my wires got crossed.
September 6th, 2009 at 4:25 pm
Yeah Jhill………..for now
September 6th, 2009 at 4:25 pm
Now its time to trade our 2010 first round pick for Juliues Peppers.
September 6th, 2009 at 4:25 pm
Julius*
September 6th, 2009 at 4:26 pm
Jerry Mac….
Being selfish for a moment, how about a FIX. Practice has been over for a couple of hours now, and I have rib eyes to grill…..
September 6th, 2009 at 4:26 pm
# Dude Says:
September 6th, 2009 at 4:20 pm
Who did Cable start ALL last year? Who started the first 2 preseason games?
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WE already know Farglass started all last year and did nada. But alot of that had to do with Dmac not being 100 pct.
You are embarrassing yourself DMAC started the SF game. Just stop man
September 6th, 2009 at 4:26 pm
LOL at the players pointing to an upgrade at RDE solving the run problems.
September 6th, 2009 at 4:28 pm
Jhill, we all know Fairy Mac gives accurate account of things right? lol
September 6th, 2009 at 4:29 pm
No dirt to report, so he is going to take his time.
My guess is 5:30pm for the fix.
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909RaiderLifer Says:
September 6th, 2009 at 4:26 pm
Jerry Mac….
Being selfish for a moment, how about a FIX. Practice has been over for a couple of hours now, and I have rib eyes to grill…..
September 6th, 2009 at 4:29 pm
Jhill do me a favor and at least post the tweets that you are reading. Share man
September 6th, 2009 at 4:30 pm
yaeh. lets tradeall our picks for julius peppers and anquan boldin and xavier adibi and any decent safety .
September 6th, 2009 at 4:31 pm
Jerry mac is tryin to get the scoop on if Seymour signed on for longer and how long. I’d have to say 3 years since we gave up a 1st rounder.
September 6th, 2009 at 4:32 pm
Man MR made my day! Garbage-cia is much tougher than Brady as evidence by Jeff’s titles lol
September 6th, 2009 at 4:33 pm
hey brien
September 6th, 2009 at 4:35 pm
i didnt say al made good moves last year dude, i was sayin that people said fa’s wont come here. nobody can predict the future for certain. we have ideas but we really dont know. did anybody see atlanta and miami comin up like they did? come on man worry about crabass not signin than what the raiders will do. dont hate congradulate. it aint good for the soul.
September 6th, 2009 at 4:36 pm
Lets see Seymour and better D or next years fastest 40 , I go with Seymour. I would bet anything she laughed at what was in lights out pants and he lost it.
September 6th, 2009 at 4:36 pm
Brien the General Says:
September 6th, 2009 at 4:32 pm
Man MR made my day! Garbage-cia is much tougher than Brady as evidence by Jeff’s titles lol
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Isn’t that some great stuff man, but its just MR bein MR, swingin from Garbage-cia’s nuts
September 6th, 2009 at 4:36 pm
Sup wid it Norco. Recovered from the SJSU massacre?
September 6th, 2009 at 4:37 pm
JerrymcdTommy Kelly on Seymour: `There’s a person, myself, that I kind of want to be like. It gives me a chance to see him up close and personal.’
42 minutes ago from web
JerrymcdKirk Morrison on Seymour: “We’re going to get (our run defense) fixed right now. I think he’s giong to be the answer for it.”
about 1 hour ago from web
JerrymcdTom Cable said he has not talked to Seymour. Arrangements being made to bring him to Oakland. Should start vs. SD.
about 1 hour ago from web
JerrymcdTommy Kelly: “If we can’t stop the run now . . . ”
about 1 hour ago from web
September 6th, 2009 at 4:37 pm
RaiderMight….
No doubt. Time to soak the wood chips, season those bad boys up, drink more ice COLD beer, have a shot of tequila for Merriroid and grill….
Y’all have a good one….
September 6th, 2009 at 5:01 pm
Nomorefargas. You may have to change your name soon.
September 6th, 2009 at 6:00 pm
Brien the General
hole
Carry on nation