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Raiders no longer feel like pushovers

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Starting Monday, or whenever Richard Seymour arrives from the New England Patriots, you won’t have the Raiders to push around anymore.

That was the prevailing notion among Seymour’s new teammates as one of the NFL’s best and most versatile linemen was acqured by trade for a first-round draft pick in 2011.

The Raiders inability to defend the run over the past six years has been well documented. They’ve never been better than 22nd since 2003 in rushing defense while the Patriots are usually among the leaders.

Perhaps most important, Oakland has been gashed for 122 rushing touchdowns during that span _ the most in the NFL. The Patriots, during that same 96-game period, have given up 56.

“We’re going to get it fixed right now and I think he’s the answer for it,” middle linebacker Kirk Morrison said.

Said coach Tom Cable with regard to Seymour and the run defense: “I think a guy that has proven for, what, seven, eight years now that he’s a terrific run player, can hold the point and separate, get off blocks and make tackles in doing so. I think that gives us a real key piece.”

Seymour will immediately be installed at right end and also play some defensive tackle. He’s 54 pounds heavier than Trevor Scott, the second-year end who held that position through the preseason.

“When you commit somebody of that size to the running game it can only help,” left end Greg Ellis said. “Not just that he’s a pretty big physical guy but the fact he’s been playing the 3-4 and he’s been playing over offensive tackles for the majority of his career. Now he’ll be going against tight ends so you have to say
that should be a win for us.”

Linebacker Ricky Brown agreed.

“He’s considered the best two-gap player in the league, and he’s played in a system where he’s played a gap to his left, a gap to his right, now having him in a single gap, I think he’s going to be a dominant player for us,” Brown said.

Seymour, in theory will enable the Raiders to do defensively what they were never able to do with Warren Sapp _ move him to different places along the line and create mismatches as well as a ripple effect that helps the group as a whole.

“You get a quality player who has done a lot both as a run player and as a pass rusher. In the 3-4, when they reduce down, he’s played as a three technique, he’s been an inside rusher in nickel and all those things,” Cable said. “So there’s a lot of variation to what he brings to the table for us.”

Bringing Seymour aboard was enough to get the usually reticent Tommy Kelly talking.

“You can’t help but admire his game,” Kelly said. “There’s a player that myself, I kind of want to be like. It gives me a chance to see him up close and personal, see how he practices, how he prepares. You play with real good players, especially defensive tackles, defensive ends, you take something from their game.”

Kelly, having played both inside and outside, likes Seymour’s ability to adapt.

“He brings a lot of versatility to the defense,” Kelly said. I mean, if we can’t stop the run now, with that big (expletive) on the edge . . . it definitely upgrades us.”

More news and notes, Seymour and otherwise:

— “Inside, outside, however you want it. He brings it on. (He’s an) excellent complement to the team and hopefully we can shore things up on the defensive side of the ball with him on the field,” defensive tackle Gerard Warren on Seymour.

— Wide receiver Chaz Schilens wants to be back for the second game of the season.

“Without getting into anything too specific, I’d say it’s on schedule. Everything is settled, the bone is healing well,” Schilens said. “It’s not up to me. It’s kind of up to how much pain I have in my foot and how much pain I can deal with.”

— Center Samson Satele is taking news of Chris Morris’ asension as the starter in stride.

“It’s the case now and you know whatever coach wants, the team wants, I’ll do it, but I’ll be waiting for my chance and once I do, I won’t look back,” Satele said.

Satele played against Seymour’s New England teams twice a year, and blocked against him when Seymour moved inside on passing downs.

“He’s a big guy that can move and it’s a good pickup,” Satele said. “He’s a nasty player. It’s good he’s on my side now.”

— Quarterback Bruce Gradkowski said he talked to Jeff Garcia and believes Garcia might still want to play if the situation was right. Gradkowski is well aware of the role he and Charlie Frye will play as Raiders quarterbacks.

“We’re just here to help JaMarcus,” Gradkowski said. “JaMarcus is the show.”

Frye said he remained confident of a roster spot, but noted, “Nothing surprises me after I got traded after the first game with Cleveland.”

Frye last season was the first NFL quarterback to start a regular-season opener and be traded the following week.

— Six players were brought back to the practice squad _ linebackers Slade Norris and David Nixon, wide receiver Jonathan Holland, defensive end Greyson Gunheim, fullback Marcel Reece and safety Jerome Boyd.

— Those who did not practice Sunday were running back Justin Fargas, linebacker Isaiah Ekejiuba and Schillens. Linebacker Kirk Morrison (elbow) and cornerback Nnamdi Asomugha were limited. Tackle Khalif Barnes went through some drills with the linemen.

— Defensive tackle William Joseph was released to make room for Seymour.

— Brown was working at strong side linebacker Sunday.

— Cable said he has a good idea of his lead running back, but probably won’t announce it until Thursday after he’s talked to Darren McFadden, Fargas and Bush.

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Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer

  • Priest, like 10 typos in your first sentence alone. Sober up and try again tomorrow.

  • Thec07

    The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    September 7th, 2009 at 1:08 am
    You didn’t say it was funny, Thec. You said he was an imbecile. Is he more or less of an imbecile than people who still thinks Al Davis can GM a team to a Super Bowl?

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    MR what is wrong with you? Do you need attention that bad?

    you must be on drugs or drunk. read my post, I never said he was an imbecile…… Those are your words not mine. ROFLMAO…… You are too funny….

  • Thec07

    Thec07 Says:
    September 7th, 2009 at 12:28 am
    Has anyone heard adam schefters report on richard seymour. When asked who was seymour dealt to, schefter responded the oakland patriots…..

    http://videos.espn.com/m/video/26200166/richard-seymour-traded-to-raiders.htm

    Freekin incredible….

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Where in this post is the word imbecile?

    Seek help….

  • Anybody who ends a comment with “Naysayers be damned!” has to be drunk. LOL.

  • priesttj

    Oh! and all of a sudden DBurgess is this great player. The Pat’s solidified their line by signing him. Sometimes your own arrogance will kill you Burgess is a great edge rusher but far from the kind of player that solidifies your line. He was agreat edge rusher for us and will be for them. But the Pat’s defense wasn’t great last year ad took a hit this year. But they do have a great coach and they did get a lot younger. We’ll see if that means better.

  • NAYSAYERS BE DAMNED!!!

  • Thec07

    MR, without glasses I can see incredible looking like imbecile. I retract the statement about you needing help…..

  • Well, could be my eye sight, or the beer. I blame the beer last.

  • NoMoreFargas

    No talking how good we can be Kelly,Morrison,Howard just get it done play with some Damn pride and knockout a MFER tired of are D being so soft!

    GO RAIDERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • sirblitzalot

    Priest post 153

    God bless you priest. I appreciate you optimistic view of this organization. I try to ride the wake of your enthusiasm but you walk by faith not by sight. I here you on the radio, I read your blogs and there is no doubt you know a heck of a lot more than me. But I arrived (almost surrendered) to my conclusion based on the repeated history of the same old crap for many, many years! I felt John Gruden was the 3rd best coach Al has ever picked. We got beat by his team in the superbowl but it was his coaching that was the catalyst to get the Raiders there in the first place. He was a dedicated, intelligent workaholic of a coach. I sensed he could take us to the Promised Land and he did. Yes, he was conservative, but when you are not pumping on all cylinders (weak-armed, overachieving, workaholic Gannon) you have to go slow over that mountain, or you gonna find yourself parked on the side of the road (waiting for next year to get over that mountain).

    I have to tell you, I try to look at this team as objective as a mathematician; and when I do that I come to the same conclusion: 1 -1 = 0. Tom Cable does NOT impress me as a B. Belechec, Walsh, Cower, J. Johnson or even Mangeni (no longer a HC). I am watching him on the sideline and I try to look into his eyes and see if the lights are really on. He has his poker face on but I can see he is so lost out there: “The N.O. PRESEASON game is not going to Define Us”! Of Course Not! That cliché should not even have been used! He should of used another cliché like “We are still in the evaluation process. That was a PRESEASON game so let’s keep things in context. Yes, my team was sleep walking out there today but our main objective is not winning Preseason Games. It is more important for us to learn from this lackadaisical performance and move on to winning games – when it counts. I told the guys to dump this game and re-focus on what is really important bla, bla, bla……” I am wondering what has Cable done in the past, that would merit such a grandiose promotion – to one of the 32 hardest to get jobs in the world? Please help me understand. I feel like a battered wife that really wants to believe he will never strike me again but every time I give him a chance and the Raiders lose another game, he punches my lights out! Dang!!! Why can’t I remember that!!!? Finally, I admit I love this man, but I am choosing not to care if I ever see him again. That parallels where I am with Al Davis and his (not our) Raiders. Does that make any sense?

  • sirblitzalot

    Well I guess you can say it is “our team”, in a sense, since WE ARE PAYING FOR IT! But then it is not because WE ARE NOT GETTING ANYTHING IN RETURN FOR OUR INVESTMENT!

  • raidertbone

    Not so fast guys – there’s a silver (and black) lining in all of this. We get some instant, proven D-line help now and sacrifice a 2011 pick that will, hopefully, be a mid-rounder at worst. The bottom line is — our D-line just got a little (hopefully, A LOT) better! It would be nice to see one of these moves really pan out for us — poetic justice would be for Seymour to have a solid year and Burgess to suck.

  • ENGLANDRAIDER

    Well, there’s no questioning that we need Seymour and we need him now.
    You have to wonder whether this is a mistake long-term though.
    Seymour has five pro-bowls in nine years. He also has knee and back problems is 30 this year and in the final year of his contract.

    Then there’s the question of the 1st pick in 2011. He was probably worth a second in 2010.
    In 2011, a first pick might well be worth a lot more if rookie contracts are controlled by the new contract.

    Adam Schefter likes the deal.
    He said so when he announced that Seymour would be traded to the “Oakland Patriots”. I have to admit that made me blink a few extra times.
    KC and Denver both have ties to NE but passed on Seymour and Denver could use him.

    Going for Seymour is the kind of deal you do when you think you have a shot a the superbowl in that year. We’re not going to the superbowl unless we buy tickets.

    Nevertheless the trade in this year will really help the team in stopping the run. That would be a good thing.
    Seymour, like Ellis, is a great example of how to play football. He may also be of great help to Kelly who’s been getting double-teamed. Maybe his preparation will be of some help to Kelly too because there’s something wrong with what he’s doing.

    I think I’ll look at this a Seymour for Burgess trade. That’s a good deal.

  • ENGLANDRAIDER

    One more thing:

    RAIDERS UBER ALLES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • neilb

    EnglandRaiders…….where abouts in England are you from ?

  • Aussie

    Does any one out there think that the pick is dependent on Seymour signing a new contract with the Raiders? Or if he doesn’t they’ll only get a 2nd round pick for example?

  • RaiderfanNY

    This trade is further proof of Al Davis’ senility. How do you trade a first-round pick without signing Seymour to an extension first? Davis will eventually OVERPAY Seymour to keep him from leaving, so the team won’t have to face the 2011 draft without its pick or the player it traded the pick for.

    How much will Seymour help in the short-term? He’s past his prime and injury-prone. He’s also known to be a moody guy who may not like playing for the worst team in the league. If the Raiders’ run defense goes from 31st to 24th, so what? Seymour alone can’t help this team win more than 5 or 6 games, tops.

    The only way to rebuild this team is to draft successfully. It is the only way. The Raiders continue to lose because their annual top 10 picks have yielded no production so far. Now the Raiders’ next coach will have to start his regime (or maybe his second year) without a top-10 pick.

    If Russell doesn’t pan out — it’s 50/50 at this point — that 2011 pick could have been our next QB of the future…

  • ESPN was just ripping the Raiders for cutting Garcia.

  • CASPER

    arrighty then they may be reading my mind!! but there is no way Mr Warren should start he doesn’t have it! In my mind starting D-Line Mr Seymour, Mr Bryant, Mr Kelly, Mr Ellis. This may get the job done for once!! Then maybe the offense can stay on the field for more then just 3 and outs!! So they get some type of rest!! in between sets!

  • Oaklifer

  • Oaklifer I’ll log in tommorow for you ok.

  • raiderzride4free

    profootballtalk.com is reporting that Seymour is “pissed” about the trade and theres a possibility he wont report to oakland which would make the trade not happen.

  • Terrapin

    Well I wouldn’t take PFT too seriously with that report. Its all from 3rd person. Money can cure a lot of ills when it comes to a football player.

    I expect him to report. He’ll be in a very bad predicament if he does not – even according to PFT.

    The weird thing in all this is Raiders.com has not updated its website to reflect this mammoth acquisition. They’ve updated the transaction page but no real piece on the acquisition itself.

    But hey, maybe its just the LD weekend.

  • Terrapin

    ESPN just proves further how asinine they are. I mean really, Jeff Garcia? Like how many teams has he been on? Has he taken any of them to the promise land?

  • Terrapin

    Cable said yesterday they (the Raiders) were in the process of getting everything setup for him to get here. That could be a lot of things (maybe contract signing) but it clearly means they expect him to show.

    Jeanette Thompson also reported yesterday on Behind the Shield Online that he was expected later after practice.

  • Charlie

    This move simply validates how little talent we have had on our Dline for several years. It also points out that Mr Davis sees the problem as well. Probably the best thing to happen to us was the Saints embarrassment.

    The notion that we could coach this unit to respectability was ridiculous. Burgess was always injured and weak against the run. Sands and Joseph were cast offs who could not play at the NFL level.

    We now have a respectable albeit aging starting defensive line that will need our first pick next year to be a DT replacing Warren. Hopefully a guy like Shaugnessy can step in for Ellis.

    Our second round pick needs to go to an OT.

    Next years draft must focus on the lines.

  • raiderzride4free Says:
    profootballtalk.com is reporting that Seymour is “pissed” about the trade and theres a possibility he wont report to oakland which would make the trade not happen.
    —————-
    Another bull3!t report. The headline reads:
    What if Richard Seymour doesn’t show in Oakland?
    What is this, Marvel Comics “What if” issue? What if Tom Brady has a sex change? What if Fox News told only the truth?
    A good friend of Seymour’s told King on Sunday, “I would not be surprised if he doesn’t report.”

    We’ve heard the same sentiment. So the source posed a great question.

    What happens if Seymour doesn’t show?
    Peter King?? Are you serious? What if Al Davis found Curly’s gold & bought the Patriots & Broncos? What if Pat Bowlen has alzeimers?
    New Rick Reilly article
    The Denver Broncos’ Pat Bowlen used to be one of the cleverest owners in sports. But now he’s being undercut by an insidious opponent — himself.
    Bowlen, 65, admitted recently that he has “short-term memory loss.” There are whole parts of the Broncos’ Super Bowl seasons he says he can’t recall.
    Bowlen still insists Jay Cutler never called him back during McJay Gate this winter, which left him “no choice” but to trade a dead-lock Pro Bowl 26-year-old quarterback for Kyle Orton and draft choices.
    But I’ve now got it from three different sources — who choose to remain unidentified — that Cutler did call Bowlen back.
    “Jay called him twice,” said one source. “It’s unbelievable it came to this.”
    New Rick Reilly article
    The Denver Broncos’ Pat Bowlen used to be one of the cleverest owners in sports. But now he’s being undercut by an insidious opponent — himself.
    Bowlen, 65, admitted recently that he has “short-term memory loss.” There are whole parts of the Broncos’ Super Bowl seasons he says he can’t recall.
    Bowlen still insists Jay Cutler never called him back during McJay Gate this winter, which left him “no choice” but to trade a dead-lock Pro Bowl 26-year-old quarterback for Kyle Orton and draft choices.
    But I’ve now got it from three different sources — who choose to remain unidentified — that Cutler did call Bowlen back.
    “Jay called him twice,” said one source. “It’s unbelievable it came to this.”
    —–What if Al can get Pat to sell for a couple hundred $$$?
    http://famguytoday.blogspot.com/2009/08/bowlen-has-alzheimers.html

  • Terrapin

    Next draft will have to focus on the lines. D or O, maybe even LB. Think about it, what other “skill” position is there left to draft?

    They’ve already drafted at WR, TE, RB, QB. The only position I can see them drafting another WR but thats a far stretch especially if Murphy shows up and Schilens validates. Ignoring DHB because he will be given time.

  • Terrapin

    Wow. Thats sad to hear anyone getting Alzheimers …but to think he made the Cutler decision as a result of it …maybe the league should get involved there? They could very well need intervention more than you all say the Raiders do.

  • What if Merriman had good taste in women? What if he had good taste in haircuts? What if Bowlen & J Russell quit wearing fur coats? What if MR blogged on a site of the team he roots for? What if Narco was in Betty Ford more than Gerald Ford was? NEWS AT 11!!!

  • cornfieldraider

    IMO, this is the only way Al uses a 1st round pick on the D line.

  • Not a bad use of a first rounder: at least he’s an established player.

  • # Richochet Says:
    September 6th, 2009 at 11:53 pm

    RaiderDogg Says:
    September 6th, 2009 at 10:45 pm
    How can any one person rationally explain over 10 STRAIGHT HOURS of pure bullsh1t on a blog about a football team?

    Clearly this is MR’s life, it’s all he’s got. If the Raiders win, his little sh1t cloud will evaporate and then what? He will have nothing left to live for.

    Sucks to be you MR, it so clearly and painfully does.
    ————
    Question is …how do YOU know if it was 10 hours or not?
    Were YOU HERE THOSE 10 HOURS?

    If so..lol..well..you figure it out.
    ==========================================================

    Or you could just scroll up and see 10 hours of posts since they are time stamped, but only a sheer imbecile would not be able to figure that out…..oh right, it’s lil ricky, forgot.

  • cornfieldraider

    I would rather trade 1st rounders for guys like Seymour than draft “can’t miss” prospects such as Gallery and Huff.

  • Thec07

    NATION, whats up????????

    Niners just sign pashos to one year deal. He would have been an upgrade….

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/09/07/pashos-to-49ers/

  • Terrapin

    Its unreal that Crabtree still hasn’t signed – unreal.

  • RaiderNation4Life1

    ok now im hearing that seymour wont show?? what the hell profootballtalk saying he was angry about the trade and on yahoo there is a article about deangelo hall dissing the raiders and saying things like “i feel seymours pain” “black hole is a giant hole for great players” and this…”You got out there [to Oakland], there are eight out of 11 starters taking days off,” he said. “I felt like, ‘Hey, I’m the big money acquisition. I’m the only guy out here who has been in a Pro Bowl. I should have the day off, too.”

  • Happy labor day nation. Cant wait 4 discharger game.

  • Richochet

    Terrapin Says:
    September 7th, 2009 at 9:40 am
    Its unreal that Crabtree still hasn’t signed – unreal.
    ===============
    Unreal?

    You have a short memory.

    Your blob of a qb didn’t sign until after WEEK TWO of the season.

    You sure it’s “unreal”?

    Difference is Crabtree truly was the BEST WR in college.
    Russell was anything but.

  • Richochet

    RaiderNation4Life1 Says:
    September 7th, 2009 at 9:50 am
    ok now im hearing that seymour wont show?? what the hell profootballtalk saying he was angry about the trade and on yahoo there is a article about deangelo hall dissing the raiders and saying things like “i feel seymours pain” “black hole is a giant hole for great players” and this…”You got out there [to Oakland], there are eight out of 11 starters taking days off,” he said. “I felt like, ‘Hey, I’m the big money acquisition. I’m the only guy out here who has been in a Pro Bowl. I should have the day off, too.”
    ==============
    Oh man…that’s “Rich” (play of words..couldn’t resist.)

    Classic..truly laughed out loud reading that.

    Interesting that I alluded to exactly that yesterday, in the comment that ESPN made “Who did Seymour piss off in NE? Going from filet mignon to spam”

    Wow..if that’s true…massive WOW.

  • Hey jerry nice job yesterday. Now make with the fix.

  • R8 is back!!!!!!

    Where have you been dude?

  • Yeah dummy jr is a qb not a wr. Sheez what a tard

  • =)

  • He better be on TV in a few hours telling us how much he loves it here, and how it was his dream to play here, or NE can have their Pussy back!!!!

  • beeecham

    Hey, cool – Lil Ricky is back! Man, you’d think on Labor Day he might lay off the Red Bull and candy corn at least until noon.

    But he wouldn’t be the silly little spazz we all love if he didn’t, right?

    Man, I wonder if Lil Rick even slept a wink this whole weekend. You can see the awesome acquisition of Seymour really has his blood boiling today, so let’s just hope the little dude doesn’t go in sudden cardiac arrest.

    After all, the combination of candy, white drugs and adolescent rage is definitely not recommended by the Surgeon General.

  • Noshadowking

    Yeah Im sure Seymour is a bit pissed of right now. Give it a while he will play. People want to get paid. I agree with what was mentioned above. Id rather have a proven guy then have our team spend a ton of money on 1st round picks who arent proven in the nfl and cost more to sign than veteran players. Honestly why dont we just trade some 2nd and 3rd round picks for 2010 or 2011 and upgrade our defense some more. Heck if we can grab another great player trade away our 1st rounder for 2010. Would prove to Seymour and the rest of the defense we are serious about winning and we wont have to have any inflated 1st round salaries to pay out for 2 years

  • Richochet

    Raider75 Says:
    September 6th, 2009 at 11:56 pm
    Here’s a view I haven’t heard from you guys…

    Al is losing money on this franchise and can’t afford another season of blackouts.

    Seymour drums up some interest and restores some hope that was lost in the blowout loss at home to the Saints. Maybe just enough to put some butts in the seats at home.

    Bird in hand is worth 2 in the bush (or a 1st 2 years from now)
    ==============
    Didn’t happen when you signed Moss.
    Or when you signed Sapp.
    drafting Russell? No change..

    Are you aware that in ’02? Last home game of the season? Where Raiders needed the win for playoff ramifications? BLACKED OUT.

    Was humourous listening to JT the Brick (on 1050 at the time) literally begging Raider fans to show up. Saying “You’ve been saying for years that if the Raiders put a good product on the field you’ll show up…WELL, WHAT ARE YOU WAITING FOR?”

    Nope..the only thing that sold more tickets? Was the Raiders slashing prices to something like 27 bucks a seat for some sections (which REALLY PISSED OFF THE SEASON TICKET HOLDERS OF THOSE SECTIONS..but..I digress… 🙂

  • Chris in NY

    cornfieldraider Says:
    September 7th, 2009 at 9:26 am
    I would rather trade 1st rounders for guys like Seymour than draft “can’t miss” prospects such as Gallery and Huff.

    ———————-

    Exactly. Gallery and Huff were not crazy picks either. They were the guys everyone said the Raiders should take. Draft prospects are a crapshoot. And 1st rounders are expensive. A pick in 2011 isn’t going to start to payoff for 3 or 4 years or maybe never.