Raiders mum on Seymour
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Tuesday, September 8th, 2009 at 3:11 pm in Oakland Raiders.
The Raiders have gone into their stealth mode regarding defensive lineman Richard Seymour, but in not attempting to distance themselves from him, enhanced speculation the two sides could be working on a contract.
“I really have nothing to report, nothing has changed at this point,” Cable said.
When asked if he was hopeful Seymour would be a part of the team, Cable said, “I am hopeful, yes,” adding that he doesn’t know if he would be able to play against the San Diego Chargers in the opener.
Asked if Seymour could play if he arrived Thursday, Cable said, `Sure.”
Finally, Cable was asked if the two sides were working on a longterm deal.
“I’m not going to comment on any of that until we have something that’s done and concrete,” Cable said.
In a conference call with Boston area writers, coach Bill Belichick responded to Cable’s comments Monday about there being an issue between “(Seymour and the Patriots).”
“We don’t have the rights to Richard, so I can’t really speak to that,” Belichick told reporters in Foxboro. “There really isn’t anything I can say about him or his situation.”
Seymour is listed on the Raiders roster without a number, and his acquisition is listed on the transactions page at Raiders.com
How long can Seymour be in limbo? As long as the two clubs agree, it’s open ended, according to NFL spokesman Greg Aiello.
“This is an issue between the clubs,” Aiello said. “Any comment on this situation would have to come from the clubs.”
ESPN reported the Raiders restructured the contracts of Cornell Green and Paul McQuistan to accomodate Seymour’s $3.7 million salary. His cap number could go either up or down if a new deal is done, depending on the terms.
“Hopefully he will be here soon. A veteran player. He’s won championships, he could bring so much to this locker room with leadership, like Greg Ellis did,” linebacker Thomas Howard said. “A guy who’s known for playing the run exceptionally well. And we’ve had issues with that. There’s no secrets behind that, so hopefully he can come in here and help us.”
Howard believes Seymour could be added to the defense late in the week and still be a contributor.
“If we found a good role for him where he could be very familiar with what he’s used to doing, I think it could work,” Howard said. “It’s all about finding that role. ”
Said strong side linebacker Ricky Brown: “Hopefully he can get here as soon as possible because I know there are 52 guys that want to play with him.”
More practice notes to come later . . .
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September 8th, 2009 at 3:12 pm
RP:
Its obvious to see that this must be GREAT trade b/c all the rats are coming out now to down the organization over the deal. They hate it! They don’t even want to think about the potential so they hide behind the “Oakland sucks” banter so they don’t have to look at things objectively.
Just last year the Vikings gave up MUCH more to get Allen (1st and two 3rds, i believe) and everyone lauded how great a deal it was for the Vikes and KC.
Oakland comes around and only pays a 1st for a player that is on the same par with Allen and all of a sudden its a terrible deal.
September 8th, 2009 at 3:15 pm
I guess he hasn’t gotten over the shock yet?
September 8th, 2009 at 3:16 pm
I’m starting to get worried.
September 8th, 2009 at 3:16 pm
Oh my damn …if Seymour begins running WR routes per Jerry …this is not a great trade ..its a FANTABOULOUS TRADE!! hahaha …quality check pls.
September 8th, 2009 at 3:16 pm
1st
September 8th, 2009 at 3:16 pm
Sgt Schultz knows more than these guys
September 8th, 2009 at 3:18 pm
I mean 3rd. Al sign him already, I’m getting an ulcer with all this anticapation!
September 8th, 2009 at 3:19 pm
Repost:
220 (previous thread)
Seymour must pass a physical or the deal can be reworked or voided.
If he passes a physical and decides to sit out, the Raiders put him on a non-football list, meaning no paycheck and he can’t play anywhere. Then, in 2010, his 09 contract would kick in. In 2011, he would be a FA.
If he really wants to damage his career and lose out on way more money than anyone other than Davis would pay him, he’ll sit. Not happening. Expect Richard in Oakland wearing S&B for the Thursday practice.
“Howard believes Seymour could be added to the offense late in the week and still be a contributor.”
Obviously, Thomas Howard has ‘Raider coaching material’ written all over him after he retires from playing.
I’m thinking Seymour at slot WR?
September 8th, 2009 at 3:19 pm
He’s going to get a big contract. Al,don’t break the bank, but then again, Green Bay signed Reggie White late in his career.
September 8th, 2009 at 3:20 pm
Terrapin
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Lol, we’re on the same page here. No DB would ever be able to stop him.
September 8th, 2009 at 3:21 pm
It sounds like they’re working out a deal. Seymour knows he has little say on whether he plays for Oakland or not this year.
So long as Seymour stays in Boston and don’t go through a physical Oakland can in all likelihood call off the trade. Seymour probably just wants the deal done before he comes. If they can’t agree to terms the deal is smashed.
It could be a smart move by Al and Seymour. But for Seymour and the Patriots, imagine if he was forced back into NE’s hands. You know that just wouldn’t go smooth for either party.
September 8th, 2009 at 3:22 pm
Come on Seymour just get to work.
“If he would come out and say I am committed to this team, this is my team I am prepared for battle against all odds.” It would show a leadership quality unseen from a Raider player in the trenches since Howie Long and Steve Wisnewiski
September 8th, 2009 at 3:26 pm
I wonder what Randy Moss has been telling him?
September 8th, 2009 at 3:27 pm
“If he would come out and say I am committed to this team, this is my team I am prepared for battle against all odds.” It would show a leadership quality unseen from a Raider player in the trenches since Howie Long and Steve Wisnewiski
I’m sure we’ll see just that. In a prepared statement drafted by his PR people. Once the deal is done. For 50 mil or so.
The guy doesn’t want to be here, but let’s look long term, people. Al will get the deal done. Seymour will play. And play well.
Where’s AZ with the Kool-Aid?
September 8th, 2009 at 3:29 pm
Captain Black, Green Bay was already a good team when they signed White. I don’t know why so many Raider fans draw these far fetched comparisons to acquisitions made long ago, in some cases decades ago, by teams that were competitive and already had a cohesive and successful program in order. It must be a form of denial.
September 8th, 2009 at 3:29 pm
KK
Randy told him, ‘if you’re not interested in championships, go to Oakland for a huge paycheck and fake injuries until Al trades you for a bag of peanuts and a bobble head of yourself. You know, like I did.’
September 8th, 2009 at 3:33 pm
I’m sure Randy Moss let him in on a secret that nobody knows, Kell. That the Raiders are disorganized and put way too many priorities in front of winning football games. That darn Randy. He ruined it for us. Before Moss got Seymour’s ear, Seymour was a big time Raider and and was convinced that we were turning the corner!
September 8th, 2009 at 3:34 pm
If this situation doesnt motivate the Defense I dont know what will. They should be so hungry and physical to see what people think of them without Seymour. They have get themselves ready mentally as if Seymour wasnt coming. Personally I believe he will be here and great things will be in store for our team. 2010 draft should now be concetrated on Defense and free angency on offensive line and our Team will be back. Go Silver and Black play like Champions.
September 8th, 2009 at 3:35 pm
I can’t remember just how good/bad Walker was. I don’t think he was a “system fit” though as I remember the reasoning behind letting him go.
September 8th, 2009 at 3:39 pm
Canadian Raider, there have bee more than enough headlines for the Raiders to hang in their locker room in the past 6 years as motivational material. It hasn’t worked to this point. The kinds of teams Al Davis puts together do not respond to such provocation.
September 8th, 2009 at 3:39 pm
As long as Pats have Moss on their team they will never win another superbowl. He just brings badluck with him. If they didnt win the one against the Giants with less then a minute left with the lead, that was the Moss curse, just like Arod for the Yankees.
September 8th, 2009 at 3:43 pm
So what was with this post? Jerry contacted the League Office, was told, ‘hey, it’s between them,’ rehashed information we already knew, and said a real post was to come later?
-“I really have nothing to report, nothing has changed at this point,” Cable said.
-Asked if Seymour could play if he arrived Thursday, Cable said, `Sure.”
-“We don’t have the rights to Richard, so I can’t really speak to that,” Belichick told reporters in Foxboro. “There really isn’t anything I can say about him or his situation.”
Other than the revelation that Thomas Howard thinks Seymour can be a regular contributor on offense, this was not news.
This is all media hype. Al will have Seymour sign. Period. I want to know what he’ll bring to our Thursday practice other than a box of Kleenex he’ll share with Crabtree and Richochet.
September 8th, 2009 at 3:44 pm
Canadian Raider, how can Moss be blamed solely, or even remotely, for the fact that the Pats haven’t won a Super Bowl since acquiring him? He could not have played better in ‘07. He was just superb. Brady was injured last year so the season was pretty much a wash. You want to talk about bad luck, let’s look at Al Davis.
September 8th, 2009 at 3:45 pm
The Real MaddenRaider.
I dont look at the past six years they mean nothing to me today. I just believe being positive is the only way to succeed in anything. I survied colon cancer 8 years ago so I am just lucky to be here and be able to still watch my team. I dont care if they go 0-16 I will still be a fan next year.
September 8th, 2009 at 3:47 pm
MR
You can’t really say an 11-5 season was a wash.
If they made the playoffs, they very well could have won the SB.
By the way, they were left in the cold in favor of division winner San Diego Chargers (8-8).
Bodes well for the 2009 Raiders. We may not even need a winning season to get in.
September 8th, 2009 at 3:47 pm
Pats are likely on the decline. Just look at them and tell me they don’t look like the Raiders during our SB run?
Applicable for Both teams:
- Acquired a lot of high quality vets that were on the downward side of their careers
- Began drafting poorly
- Most of those same hq vets retired or left around the same time
- QB got a serious injury which forced him out for a whole year
We all know what happened next. Eerily similar. Looks like history is singing the same song. It all depends on how their young players fill in the gaps but we all know they can’t replace those HOF’ers.
September 8th, 2009 at 3:50 pm
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Strange parallels. These teams seem to be tied together in some way or another since 01.
September 8th, 2009 at 3:50 pm
MR, hey man what u know about Somalia, all the info you get is from the media u insulting, Somalia is a country, yes there is pirates and yes it has its problems just like Congo or Ivory Coast but really only Mogadishu the capital is a mess, the rest is just like any where in the world peaceful and functioning so please watch what you say before you talk, don’t disrespect other ppl country and be blessful with what you got. I understand you trying point out an analogy but please if u ain’t a SOMALIAN, than keep Somalia out of your mouth.
September 8th, 2009 at 3:50 pm
Canadian Raider, congratulations on surviving colon cancer. But, this is a blog and I’m allowed to comment here just as you are. You made two points I disagree with, and I made my case. If you don’t want to counter my points, don’t. But save the lame guilt trips. Again, I congratulate you on beating cancer.
September 8th, 2009 at 3:51 pm
OK, guys, the Patriots suck, Moss sucks. Back to the Raiders. Would you say this Seymour situation, with him being AWOL (as far as anyone knows), is a good sign?
September 8th, 2009 at 3:51 pm
Mr. I would say its mosses fault the pats didn’t win because of the bad karma he brought with em. He quit on the raiders that year. I don’t care how bad things are going organizationally that doesn’t mean you stop playing and drop td passes on purpose. If randy wasn’t being such a Bia I guarantee the raiders would have won more than two games that year. The football gods couldn’t reward randy for how he reacted to the raiders.
September 8th, 2009 at 3:51 pm
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September 8th, 2009 at 3:52 pm
Dmac, thank you for bringing up the concept of “football gods”. Now maybe we know why Al Davis can’t buy a winning season.
September 8th, 2009 at 3:54 pm
Dmac20
That being said, we all saw what Moss was like with the Vikings.
When we brought him in, it was a good fit, and he was a classic Raider and all that.
I would prefer a guy like Seymour, who is sh*tting himself at the prospect of playing for us, not looking for a meal ticket.
Once he gets his panties out of a bunch, he’ll be a far better contributor, IMO.
September 8th, 2009 at 3:55 pm
Jerry, where’s the real post?
September 8th, 2009 at 3:55 pm
MR, what u know about Somalia, all the info you get is from the media u insulting, Somalia is a country, yes there is pirates and yes it has its problems just like Congo or Ivory Coast but really only Mogadishu the capital is a mess, the rest is just like any where in the world peaceful and functioning so please watch what you say before you talk, don’t disrespect other ppl country and be blessful with what you got. I understand you trying point out an analogy but please if u ain’t a SOMALIAN, than keep Somalia out of your mouth.
September 8th, 2009 at 3:56 pm
Green Bay was garbage when Reggie went there. They hadn’t won in years. The writers were ripping him left and right for going to the team that paid the most money. He said the Lord told him to go there. Other winning team swanted him but wouldn’t pay quite as much Green Bay overpaid because the had to. He signed the biggest contract in league history. After he went there other FA’s signed and then came Bret Farve. That’s when the Packers began to catch some momentum.
This signing and the emergence of Russell could very well have the same affect. The QB is hat stabilizes a franchise, if Russell delivers the rest will be much easier.
September 8th, 2009 at 3:57 pm
TrueRaider, Somalia’s a dump. Get over it.
September 8th, 2009 at 3:58 pm
According to a league source, the hangup appears to be a financial one with the Patriots.
September 8th, 2009 at 3:59 pm
The Real MaddenRaider.
I am not intentinally laying any guilt trips at all. Everyone who posts has the right to say whatever they want. I wasnt blaming Moss I was just referring to him to being a bad luck charm thats all. I know hes a great player but I would never want his attitude on my team. this is his third year on the Pats just watch his behaviour if they fail to make it to the playoffs. My question to you is would you like to have him on your team? He only wants to play for teams that are good.
September 8th, 2009 at 4:00 pm
priest, you’re right about Reggie White. For some reason I had it in my head that he’d signed with GB in ‘96, the year they went to the Super Bowl. And, I’d also like to apologize to Captain Black. Even though I don’t believe our situation is the same as Green Bay’s was in ‘93, due to the fact that they weren’t stuck with the same GM that had buried them the previous 6 seasons, Captain Black’s point about White is fair because he was a veteran risk and the Packers were not a great team beforehand. My apologies.
September 8th, 2009 at 4:02 pm
MR
Humility looks good on you
September 8th, 2009 at 4:02 pm
What shocks me is that this team, so devoid of actual talent, has to fukin massage the salary cap in order to accommodate Seymour…how much are we paying these current douchebag players (and probably some former douchebag players too)?????
Unreal…no wonder Al has to sell off more of the team…
September 8th, 2009 at 4:03 pm
Fair enough, Canadian Raider. I disagree with you about Moss, however. I do not think he’s a “bad luck” charm. I think he has an attitude problem, yet, regardless of it, he seems to function well in winning environments.
September 8th, 2009 at 4:04 pm
Terrpin
Post 26 is beyond ridiculous. I’m not mad at ya, but C’mon man.
Any team with Al Davis is not comparable to the New England Patriots.
September 8th, 2009 at 4:04 pm
Jason La Canfora on Seymour …saying basically its contract negotiations ….like I said up top
http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-network-around-the-league/09000d5d812752c4/Seymour-latest
But of course the media (with a lil help from the Raiders way of operating) are firing this up into all kinds of smoke.
September 8th, 2009 at 4:05 pm
Comon’ Kell!
I just point out their similarities in the direction the franchises took.
I’m not saying they will be as bad us we were after than run – but I am saying they are likely on the decline just as we were.
And who would’ve thought we would’ve been where we are right now at that point in time = no one!
September 8th, 2009 at 4:05 pm
Can you imagine the stories Seymour heard about the Raiders from Moss, Burgess, Lamont Jordan….heck, maybe even Andrew Walter…
Can you blame the guy for hesitating about playing there?
September 8th, 2009 at 4:05 pm
RaiderDogg, I apologize to you too, regarding the comments about your mother. That being said, I don’t know why you guys air so much personal laundry on the internet, leaving it open for anyone to take aim at it, but nonetheless I’d hate to think someone really thought I was insulting their mother, like their actual mother, for real. I had no such intention, Dogg. And I apologize for giving the impression. It was trash talking gone way too far. I won’t go there again. Especially here.
September 8th, 2009 at 4:07 pm
OMG!!!!!! No telling what Andrew Walter said.
September 8th, 2009 at 4:08 pm
Help me out here……as far as the league is concerned is Seymour a Raider ?
September 8th, 2009 at 4:08 pm
“On Sunday, when asked if he had any advice for Seymour, recent Raiders cast-off Derrick Burgess was succinct.
“All I can say is good luck to him,” Burgess said with a hint of sarcasm.”
On Tuesday when asked if he had any advice for the Patriots, regarding Raiders cast-off Derrick Burgess’ ability to stop the run, RaiderDogg was succint.
“All I can say is good luck to them,” Dogg said with a hint of sarcasm.
September 8th, 2009 at 4:08 pm
Welcome, Richard Seymour.
Adding Seymour and Bryant to our defensive line is going to help a lot. Now if we can start drafting some offensive linemen in the first round, we might be a good team.
September 8th, 2009 at 4:09 pm
Harrison: Seymour’s “not thrilled” with deal to Raiders
Posted by Tom Curran on September 7, 2009 9:55 PM ET
Retired safety Rodney Harrison told PFT Monday night that he has spoken to his former Patriots teammate and close friend Richard Seymour about the deal that sent Seymour to Oakland.
And?
“He’s not thrilled,” said Harrison, now an analyst for NBC’s Football Night in America. “Who would be thrilled to go to the Oakland Raiders? Maybe somebody who’s happy to just get a chance but not a guy like Richard Seymour, a five-time Pro Bowler. For a veteran player to go to Oakland at this juncture it’s just difficult.
“Put yourself in his position,” Harrison added. “He’s going from a first-class organization to one of the worst in the NFL. You have the head coach fighting the assistant coaches, the owner involved in the day-to-day operations, guys who don’t believe in the quarterback. . . . Tom Brady to JaMarcus Russell? Come on. Is that something to look forward to? Why would he be excited?”
Asked if Seymour would report to the Raiders, Harrison said, “I don’t know that. Only Richard knows that. But I wouldn’t go to Oakland. There’s no way in the world I would go to Oakland. The only way I would report is if they promised they wouldn’t franchise me after this year.”
September 8th, 2009 at 4:10 pm
Raider fans are there any other good players available that have not signed contracts?
September 8th, 2009 at 4:10 pm
WTF MR, did you get your meds adjusted or something? Why all the politeness? It is unbecoming on you….
September 8th, 2009 at 4:11 pm
Neilb, the league says they’re not concerned at all. It’s between the two teams. Technically, he’d still have to be with NE because he hasn’t passed his physical in Oakland yet.
September 8th, 2009 at 4:12 pm
Money talks. The NFL is a business, Seymour is a businessman. He will be in for Thursdays practice.
All those x players might of talked bad about the Raiders, but all Seymour has to do is give Al a few minutes. He will be saying “I’m honored to be a Raider. I want to be part of their long history…” etc…
He knows there’s a fat check waiting to be cashed.
September 8th, 2009 at 4:12 pm
so how long after seymours deal gets done, and we find out if we have any cap space , do we resign langston walker?
September 8th, 2009 at 4:13 pm
MR
No worries man. Thanks for saying that though, I appreciate it. Did you happen to see my final post to you the other day? I was basically apologizing for being a hot head. It’s my own fault, in a way, for letting it get to me. Sore subject I guess.
Good for you though man, you are better than most.
September 8th, 2009 at 4:16 pm
Dakota, I don’t know, to be honest with you. I guess I’m really feeling sorry for die hard fans right now. The way players are summing up the Raiders’ organization when commenting on this trade, talking about the Raiders as if they’re a war torn shythole like Somalia, it just makes me want to take it easy on these guys for a couple of days. They’re at rock bottom.
September 8th, 2009 at 4:17 pm
Cheers Madden…….if money is the problem then who’s the problem with.
Just thinking out loud here…..Does Seymour have some kind of loyalty bonus in his contract with the Pats ? Is that the problem ?
September 8th, 2009 at 4:17 pm
51
No one knows at this point because no one knows the language of the contract.
Its all speculation
September 8th, 2009 at 4:18 pm
It would be nice to get Langston back, if he’s got anything left.
September 8th, 2009 at 4:18 pm
RaiderLove, I think you’re in denial.
September 8th, 2009 at 4:19 pm
Can someone please tell me since when did Seymour become such a bad player? Please!
Because accd’g to these mediots this guy is now garbage!
September 8th, 2009 at 4:20 pm
don’t think l walker plays in a zbs
September 8th, 2009 at 4:21 pm
Dogg
52
LMAO
RaiderLove
58
Dead on.
September 8th, 2009 at 4:21 pm
why would we resign Langston Walker? He sucked!
September 8th, 2009 at 4:22 pm
L. Walker 2008 4 penalties, 3 sacks allowed
Green 2008 8 penalties, 7.5 sacks allowed
Barnes 2008 9 penalties, 7.5 sacks allowed
Can’t hurt to bring him in for a look see…probably doesn’t fit the ZBS or some other bs cuz he 30 lbs heavier than Branes, lol.
I see Runyan turned us down…bummer.
Hey, can we also get a center in here ASAP? Actually, I can live with Green at RT over Morris at C…dude sucks.
September 8th, 2009 at 4:22 pm
I’m out, Nation.
Be good.
September 8th, 2009 at 4:24 pm
Raidernation laughed when the Buffoons gave Langston Walker a huge contract. Now some of you are wishing to have him back. Some of you really have some major shortterm memories.
September 8th, 2009 at 4:24 pm
……I’ve also read that he doesn’t want a franchise tag next season.If I remember right thats the average wage of the 5 highest paid players in his position.That’s not going to be peanuts,can someone tell me why he would be against that.
September 8th, 2009 at 4:25 pm
Checking google news, the most recent reports were from 3 pm pacific, when ESPN reported on it. Still no Seymour.
September 8th, 2009 at 4:25 pm
ex Raider bashers.
Warren Sapp made more money with thr Raiders then entire career with bucks.
Lamont Jorden back up running back for the jets 25 million dollar contract with the raiders.
Burgess couldnt stop the run if there was know one blocking him.
Andrew Walter, enough said.
Moss well he bashes everyone but himself.
I am glad they are gone, these are the players who started all the bs in the dressing room. Seymour is a class act and I hope hes not listening to those idiots.
September 8th, 2009 at 4:28 pm
For you optimists regarding this deal: How long would it usually take to iron out such small contractual disputes you guys have attributed Seymour’s absence to? One day? Two days? This isn’t a case of a first round rookie holding out. We’re talking about someone already under contract. How much can there be to discuss?
September 8th, 2009 at 4:30 pm
neilb Says:
September 8th, 2009 at 4:24 pm
……I’ve also read that he doesn’t want a franchise tag next season.If I remember right thats the average wage of the 5 highest paid players in his position.That’s not going to be peanuts,can someone tell me why he would be against that.
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hmmm,
Scenario 1: you get a one year deal worth, say $17 million, and then you blow out your knee week 16…you are done.
Scenario 2: You have a 3-5 year deal worth say $25-40 guaranteed and you blow out your knee in week 16.
Which option would you choose?
September 8th, 2009 at 4:31 pm
I just can’t understand why stupid AL Davis isn’t signing FA available in the market. Pasho signed with the 49ers even though he is plays the zbs just like Barnes who could have told him to come here and play a guard instead of Carlisle. Russell the safety signed with Jacksonville, we are losing talent and keeping dumb players like Green, Alston, Huff, etc. Sign other ppl who knows they might turn to another Dez Bryant hungry motivated players.
September 8th, 2009 at 4:31 pm
Because this has been going on for a long time. When was the trade? Sunday? We’re getting beyond the “everything’s fine and dandy” deadline, guys. Even with contractual disputes in New England, he should be here suited up by now. I think there’s something much worse going on. As Kell put it earlier, I think Seymour is disgruntled to the point of shock. He’s AWOL.
September 8th, 2009 at 4:31 pm
I’m also noticing that Vegas Raider and Oakglenn have been suspiciously absent in all of this. I’d like to hear their views on the Seymour situation.
September 8th, 2009 at 4:32 pm
TrueRaider…that was written from the player’s perspective…sorry if I didn’t make that clear.
September 8th, 2009 at 4:32 pm
Dakota, I would have option one at least we dont have to pay him any money and if he is back we can sign for cheap.
September 8th, 2009 at 4:33 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
September 8th, 2009 at 4:28 pm
For you optimists regarding this deal: How long would it usually take to iron out such small contractual disputes you guys have attributed Seymour’s absence to? One day? Two days? This isn’t a case of a first round rookie holding out. We’re talking about someone already under contract. How much can there be to discuss?
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Gee, I don’t , length of contract, signing bonus, guaranteed money, and how it all fits into our cap space. And the fact talks probably didnt even start till yesterday or today. That could be it, since the guy didnt even have a thought about bein traded till the news broke.
September 8th, 2009 at 4:35 pm
Seymour has held out before to get his contract reworked.it looks as if he is doing it again before he reports.as soon as the reworked extended contract is done,he will report.
September 8th, 2009 at 4:35 pm
BTW, never said we SHOULD resign L Walker, was just askin when we would do it, just got a feelin we will do it.
September 8th, 2009 at 4:35 pm
You got me Dakota…….I’ll just sit over here in the corner and keep my mouth shut !
Must be tough trying to live on only 17m when you could have had 25+.
September 8th, 2009 at 4:35 pm
This is normal, Raiderwoj? Is that what you’re saying? When’s the last time a similar situation happened? Someone traded, not showing up, negotiating with former team for 2 whole days and counting?
September 8th, 2009 at 4:36 pm
I hope the Raiders were smart enough to put that ever so important phase in the deal with the Patriots “This deal is contingent on player passing physical.”
Remember, we did once draft a cyclops and were surprised that he lacked field vision….
September 8th, 2009 at 4:37 pm
On a side note…
Any of you catch that Miami/FSU game last night? One thing that stood out to me was the overwhelming team speed on both teams. Miami looked particularly good for a bunch of 1 & 2 year players.
September 8th, 2009 at 4:37 pm
Raiderwoj, why is it the players we trade to other teams never go AWOL? They’re always there within minutes. They wearing their new teams’ uniform, with pads, on the plane ride. LOL. Alright, I’m out of here till later.
September 8th, 2009 at 4:40 pm
neilb,
I know it sounds ridiculous from our perspective…but look at it from the player’s point of view…after they pay the agent’s commission, and the State of California and the Feds take their chunk to pay for health care for illegal immigrants, the player doesn’t come close to seeing the entire $17 million, so gaining as much guaranteed money as possible is their way of setting their entire family up for many years (or for a few months in Latrell Sprewell’s case)
I never blame them for wanting to avoid the franchise tag…there is huge potential for a lost fortune if they get injured that year.
September 8th, 2009 at 4:40 pm
gotta go
September 8th, 2009 at 4:42 pm
I hear you Raiderwoj…but I can’t believe David White is bringing up Walker. Did we all forget how bad he played for us in 05 and 06?
September 8th, 2009 at 4:43 pm
For the past few days Ive been reading about how the Raiders got fleeced. That Seymore was over the hill and NE would add a premier player in the draft.
The fact is as Raider fans we know that the draft is the biggest crap shoot in professional sports.
Also I got around to looking up Seymore’s stats today and he is coming off of one of his best years in his career. Why do people keep saying he is hurt and has lost a step.
September 8th, 2009 at 4:43 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
September 8th, 2009 at 4:35 pm
This is normal, Raiderwoj? Is that what you’re saying? When’s the last time a similar situation happened? Someone traded, not showing up, negotiating with former team for 2 whole days and counting?
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Once again MR is off on a tangent and putting words into peoples mouths
Never said it was normal or that he was negotiating with FORMER team, cause he HAS to negotiate with us, NFL has him as a RAIDER.
What i do believe is, if he does come here is going to want an extension, so if (like Dakota said) he blows out a knee it’s not a 1 year contract and hes screwed, or gets franchised next year and blows out knee and is out money. It’s seems like the smart thing for him, and the only way he gets paid. and of course it’s only my opinion.
September 8th, 2009 at 4:46 pm
raidertay Says:
September 8th, 2009 at 4:43 pm
For the past few days Ive been reading about how the Raiders got fleeced. That Seymore was over the hill and NE would add a premier player in the draft.
The fact is as Raider fans we know that the draft is the biggest crap shoot in professional sports.
Also I got around to looking up Seymore’s stats today and he is coming off of one of his best years in his career. Why do people keep saying he is hurt and has lost a step.
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From what I read he played almost to years with bum knee, finally got it fixed, and then he got hit in back last year in week 15 and didnt play week 16. Supposedly is fine now. I’ll see if I can find the link about his knee.
September 8th, 2009 at 4:49 pm
You’re right Dakota…it does make sense the way you put it.
September 8th, 2009 at 4:49 pm
I don’t blame Seymour one bit for feeling the way he probably does. But I do expect him to show a much higher degree of professionalism than Moss did. Whenhe comes here I expect him to make his own assesment and to act accordingly if he take the paychecks from Mr Davis then play asyou’re gtting paid. tha’s what professionals do or else retire.
Barry Sanders was desparate to win when he was with Detroit and he never did and he begged the Lions to trade him to the Raiders his childhood team and they refused. So he respectfully retired and never said a negative word about that frachis eventhough they essentially forced him to retire. He told them that he was tired of losing and just wanted a chnce to win wth the team he grew up rooting for and the refused.
If Seymour is the professional they say he is we all know money is not an issue with MR Davis he has already made plans to pay him. But if he comes here and takes the money he damn well better play to it. He ill pay him to lead this team and that’s what I expect………period
And don’t give a damn what anyone else has had to say to him don’t come here and take the money and make a bunch of freakin’ excuses why you can’t play. Like the one fat bastard who took the money and when he couldn’t steal anymore left and told a bunch of lies. And blamed everyone but himself.
September 8th, 2009 at 4:51 pm
back tomorrow,hopefully this will have all been sorted by then.
G’night.
September 8th, 2009 at 4:51 pm
here’s a link to story about his knee. you see the stats after he was healed, so I must say he is lookin good for us if he shows.
http://www.boston.com/sports/football/patriots/articles/2008/01/11/the_imperfect_season_of_richard_seymour/
September 8th, 2009 at 4:52 pm
The Patriots are shipping him out of town because Wilfork is younger and yes Seymour has held out on them twice. Probably angering Kraft and Billicheat enough to the point when it was time to ship him out it wasn’t a very difficult decision.
They have been giving him the cold shoulder every since the trade happened. He will be here and wen he does get here Big Al will sell him on being a Raider.
I agree with MR Somalia is a dump…..did you see the South Park episode about that garbage dump?
September 8th, 2009 at 4:53 pm
BSPN is shytting on the Raiders as we speak.
September 8th, 2009 at 4:56 pm
Richard Seymour’s Stats
2008 – 15 Games – 52 Tackles (35 Solo) – 8 Sacks
2007 – 9 Games – 23 Tackles (15 Solo) – 1.5 Sacks
2006 – 16 Games – 40 Tackles (22 Solo) – 4 Sacks
2005 – 12 Games – 46 Tackles (35 Solo) – 4 Sacks
2004 – 15 Games – 39 Tackles (24 Solo) – 5 Sacks
2003 – 15 Games – 57 Tackles (34 Solo) – 8 Sacks
2002 – 16 Games – 56 Tackles (33 Solo) – 5.5 Sacks
2001 – 13 Games – 44 Tackles (25 Solo) – 3 Sacks
September 8th, 2009 at 4:57 pm
I think Belicheck just invented a new strategy for dealing with players that holdout for new contracts. Call it the “Black Hole Treatment”. Say your star player is approaching his contract year, but wants a new contract done sooner. Rather than give in to his demands, you trade his rights to the Raiders, contingent on showing up and passing a physical. Once said player gets a taste of what his future might hold in Oakland, invite him back to the bargaining table and let him know the trade can be voided, but he needs to end his holdout immediately. BAM, you just got Black Holed Richard Seymour, look for this new little trick to be discussed in the coming CBA’s. That Belicheck is like the Leonardo of finding “creative” ways to win, on and off the field.
September 8th, 2009 at 4:58 pm
Well, it looks like he’s been durable. I hear he’s good at Run D.
September 8th, 2009 at 4:59 pm
All those Solo Tackles means a lot of 3 and outs.
September 8th, 2009 at 5:01 pm
I hope you’re right BBB, we’ll see how many of those great players ever get back to their previous teams. Or how many we keep and kick their previous teams ass with them.
Some people are so freakin’ anxious to be funny they say some of the stupidest crap.
September 8th, 2009 at 5:03 pm
Thats what I was talkin about 15 games and 52 tackles is nothing to sneeze at. Especially for a player who is known for being nasty in the trenches.
As one Raider player was quoted as saying:
“We need him. I don’t care if he’s mad. Maybe that will make him play even better.”
BTW, I love hearing Kelly saying that he cant wait to study how Seymore prepares.
September 8th, 2009 at 5:03 pm
I picture Bill Belicheck becoming the next Al Davis…
A once well respected coach, with a distinct way of dressing, committed to silence with the media and trickery on the field. He just needs cool catch phrases to mumble for the next 50 years and some more court-room experience.
September 8th, 2009 at 5:06 pm
neilb,
I know it sounds ridiculous from our perspective…but look at it from the player’s point of view…after they pay the agent’s commission, and the State of California and the Feds take their chunk to pay for health care for illegal immigrants, the player doesn’t come close to seeing the entire $17 million,
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Or Neilb, another perspective is all of us are paying $9 BILLION a month on 2 wars or more historically acurate, our generation is still paying for Regan’s Strategic Defence Initiative or Star Wars system to keep us safe from a different kind of “illegal immigrant” from back in 1983 because Uncle Ron was losing his mind as we found out. So don’t feel too sorry for him or Latrell Sprewell.
September 8th, 2009 at 5:09 pm
It has been impressive that he has been durable considering how many games NE plays every year going so deep into that playoffs every year.
September 8th, 2009 at 5:09 pm
And you need a brain, see the wizard.
September 8th, 2009 at 5:13 pm
Adam_Schefter: At this time, Seymour’s options are to report to Oakland or to sit out. Sounds like New England is out of this, with Oak’s 2011 1st rd pick.
Schefter might wanna read the rules, no show for physical, trade dies, 2011 pick back in Oakland.
September 8th, 2009 at 5:13 pm
Raiderwoj Says:
September 8th, 2009 at 4:51 pm
here’s a link to story about his knee. you see the stats after he was healed, so I must say he is lookin good for us if he shows.
http://www.boston.com/sports/football/patriots/articles/2008/01/11/the_imperfect_season_of_richard_seymour/
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Fortunately this article was written afer the 2007 season. His stats look like he bouced back in 2008
September 8th, 2009 at 5:14 pm
the truth is the media will make fun of us and laugh at us until we win more games.the sad part is there are people on here who call themselves fans who will probably never be happy and will take pot shots no matter what we do.
September 8th, 2009 at 5:16 pm
Tay,
thats what I was sayin in another post responding to you asking why the talking heads were saying seymour was no good anymore.
Raiderwoj Says:
September 8th, 2009 at 4:46 pm
raidertay Says:
September 8th, 2009 at 4:43 pm
For the past few days Ive been reading about how the Raiders got fleeced. That Seymore was over the hill and NE would add a premier player in the draft.
The fact is as Raider fans we know that the draft is the biggest crap shoot in professional sports.
Also I got around to looking up Seymore’s stats today and he is coming off of one of his best years in his career. Why do people keep saying he is hurt and has lost a step.
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From what I read he played almost to years with bum knee, finally got it fixed, and then he got hit in back last year in week 15 and didnt play week 16. Supposedly is fine now. I’ll see if I can find the link about his knee.
September 8th, 2009 at 5:28 pm
Americans would be fined up to $3,800 for failing to buy health insurance under a plan that circulated in Congress on Tuesday as divisions among Democrats undercut President Barack Obama’s effort to regain traction on his health care overhaul.
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wow
September 8th, 2009 at 5:30 pm
What’s the chances of Al not getting talked into a huge contract extension for Seymour? I say slim; Al just might pull out the whole police escort deal and a news conference straight from the twillight zone, with a contract extension.
Sounds about right doesn’t it?
September 8th, 2009 at 5:35 pm
A letter to Mr. Seymore:
Mr. Seymore, the fact is you are now an Oakland Raider. You have joined a storied franchise that has hit rough times as of late, but is built to change that, either this year or the next.
You now have teammates that are counting on you to be that final piece to lead to better days. You need to report to camp.
I will just say we all know “it’s a business” but its also a sport, where every member of the team counts. And the fact is you will report, but if you miss the opening game, come December will you have regrets? Will you have let your teammates down so you could posture? Will this young exciting team be in contention, but a game back because you weren’t there?
Mr. Seymore, you get paid millions to play a game you love. A million people would change places with you in a heartbeat if they could, please don’t squander that gift on greed and ego.
You are an Oakland Raider, time to go to work.
September 8th, 2009 at 5:36 pm
I do not think he realizes that he is REALLY wanted here in Oakland. How much better we will be as a defense when he arrives. He must not know that AL will pay him. All he has to do is give us 100% because the players are jacked that he is coming. He will be the unquestioned leader of that defense and the players want to learn from him. Once he gets here, he will love Oakland and the Black Hole.
September 8th, 2009 at 5:37 pm
It’s hard for me to believe that this guy doesn’t want to exploit Al’s deep pockets…….every player wants to get paid. The last thing left, is to pass a physical, which will be the first thing he will be asked to do upon arriving and could be a deal breaker if he were to fail……..can anyone else come up with a GOOD reason why he hasn’t shown up yet?
September 8th, 2009 at 5:42 pm
Raider75 Says:
Americans would be fined up to $3,800 for failing to buy health insurance under a plan that circulated in Congress on Tuesday as divisions among Democrats undercut President Barack Obama’s effort to regain traction on his health care overhaul.
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wow
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But the Baucus plan also includes the fines that Obama has rejected. In what appeared to be a sign of tension, White House spokesman Robert Gibbs pointedly noted that the administration had not received a copy of the plan before it leaked to lobbyists and news media Tuesday.
The Baucus plan would require insurers to take all applicants, regardless of age or health. But smokers could be charged higher premiums. And 60-year-olds could be charged five times as much for a policy as 20-year-olds.
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Don’t print just part of it….
September 8th, 2009 at 5:42 pm
Love him or hate him Al has heard the cries of his Nation. He has always found ways of getting top tier players to come to Oakland. As of late they have not produced as expected, but he still tries. There are clubs that won’t even put forth half the effort. I tell you our days of bottom dwellers are coming to an end. Seymour is a perfect fit for this team. He will be here and we will start winning. I’m not saying SB I’m just saying winning.
September 8th, 2009 at 5:45 pm
Eugene Parker is his agent, so thats a problem right there. He isnt getting paid on the Craptree commision so he has to make it up somewhere, so i bet they are workin on a deal as we speak, and eugene is askin a little bit more than will fit under our cap at the moment.
September 8th, 2009 at 5:47 pm
Can you imagine him as a tight end going against a safety? lol
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Terrapin Says:
September 8th, 2009 at 3:16 pm
Oh my damn …if Seymour begins running WR routes per Jerry …this is not a great trade ..its a FANTABOULOUS TRADE!! hahaha …quality check pls.
September 8th, 2009 at 5:48 pm
Al will get it done, he doesn’t half-ass things. That’s why we have been so bad the last six years, he’s going full-throttle the wrong way.
A happy Seymour will improve the D, maybe not dramatically, but substantially.
September 8th, 2009 at 5:48 pm
He’s not stupid Cable has talked to him and I gaurantee you so has Mr Davis. We are assumming much based on what we read in the media. Which in many cases is a far cry from what is reality. Seymour may be even trying to get here to get ready we don’t know.
So the best thing is to wait and let the story unfold instead of trying to write a story without the benefit of the facts. Things like this can sometimes be very complicated based on clauses in his contract.
So while it’s not any fun waiting, sometimes it’s the mor prudent thing to do. It will get worked out and he’ll be a Raider at some point.
September 8th, 2009 at 5:49 pm
Something like this: “Dude, just go to Oakland and sit around and pout. YOU STILL GET PAID!”
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KoolKell Says:
September 8th, 2009 at 3:26 pm
I wonder what Randy Moss has been telling him?
September 8th, 2009 at 5:51 pm
RaiderMight Says:
September 8th, 2009 at 5:47 pm
Can you imagine him as a tight end going against a safety? lol
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Terrapin Says:
September 8th, 2009 at 3:16 pm
Oh my damn …if Seymour begins running WR routes per Jerry …this is not a great trade ..its a FANTABOULOUS TRADE!! hahaha …quality check pls.
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He has played some full back:
in their 20-13 victory … Lined up as an eligible fullback and made the lead block on an Antowain Smith two-yard touchdown run.
September 8th, 2009 at 5:53 pm
or he won’t, and its not that big a deal anyway. I think with Morrison back we will be o.k. He is the leader of this defense!!!!
September 8th, 2009 at 5:54 pm
the problem is the media clearly hates us and there is no local sports talk station that caters to the raiders. ktrb aint shiit. where r the local shows for us raider fans like they said? all they have is boring ass ron barr and that former knbr prick and chargless fan chris townsend. it would help if we had some raider people on air calm everyone down while we wait. we all need a place to vent but nowhere to go.
September 8th, 2009 at 5:54 pm
Let me tell ya’ Mr Davis has had a lot of exprience with Parker and he wont play games with Mr davis like he’s playing with the 49ers. Trust me. This is something with the Pat’s………period
September 8th, 2009 at 5:54 pm
Raidertay – Exactly! When did Seymour all of a sudden become a bum player? I’ll tell you when …when the media needed to find some kinda answer that they can rationalize with to keep the fantasy dream of BB and the Patriot alive.
So the only way was to say Seymour is going down hill and the Patriots will reap the rewards …
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Those are stats for a 3-4 DE which are much much harder to come by!
September 8th, 2009 at 5:56 pm
priesttj Says:
September 8th, 2009 at 5:54 pm
Let me tell ya’ Mr Davis has had a lot of exprience with Parker and he wont play games with Mr davis like he’s playing with the 49ers. Trust me. This is something with the Pat’s………period
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what could it possibly be with the Pats, his rights are now Oaklands, the only thing that negates the trade is no show\fail of the physical.
September 8th, 2009 at 5:56 pm
I am really more concerned with the right side or the o-line. That first play in the Seattle game was horrendous. Is tha what were going to see all year long?
September 8th, 2009 at 5:57 pm
Reminds me of when the Bears would use the Fridge as a fullback on goal line plays.
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Raiderwoj Says:
September 8th, 2009 at 5:51 pm
RaiderMight Says:
September 8th, 2009 at 5:47 pm
Can you imagine him as a tight end going against a safety? lol
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Terrapin Says:
September 8th, 2009 at 3:16 pm
Oh my damn …if Seymour begins running WR routes per Jerry …this is not a great trade ..its a FANTABOULOUS TRADE!! hahaha …quality check pls.
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He has played some full back:
in their 20-13 victory … Lined up as an eligible fullback and made the lead block on an Antowain Smith two-yard touchdown run.
September 8th, 2009 at 5:57 pm
T’pin, great observation. In this defense he will be free to attack.
September 8th, 2009 at 5:59 pm
There is something, what it is who knows but Cable said they have been trying to get him here but he has to settle whatever differences he has with them. I don’t have the direct quote but that was the gist of it.
September 8th, 2009 at 5:59 pm
the deal will get done we unfortunately have to wait. the damn media is making it hard with all of their hating. both teams win in this deal but we really get the better end of it right away. he gives us what we need now. they keep saying were mortgaging our future which is ridiculous. a draft pick 2 years from now wont help us like seymour can. hes a playmaker on defense that we dont have on the line. i believe u need atleast 1 playmaker on each unit of your team to be an elite team. dl lb db. we have 1 with namm now we just need one from our lbs.
September 8th, 2009 at 6:01 pm
Harrison: Seymour’s “not thrilled” with deal to Raiders
Posted by Tom Curran on September
Retired safety Rodney Harrison told PFT Monday night that he has spoken to his former Patriots teammate and close friend Richard Seymour about the deal that sent Seymour to Oakland.
And?
“He’s not thrilled,” said Harrison, now an analyst for NBC’s Football Night in America. “Who would be thrilled to go to the Oakland Raiders? Maybe somebody who’s happy to just get a chance but not a guy like Richard Seymour, a five-time Pro Bowler. For a veteran player to go to Oakland at this juncture it’s just difficult.
“Put yourself in his position,” Harrison added. “He’s going from a first-class organization to one of the worst in the NFL. You have the head coach fighting the assistant coaches, the owner involved in the day-to-day operations, guys who don’t believe in the quarterback. . . . Tom Brady to JaMarcus Russell? Come on. Is that something to look forward to? Why would he be excited?”
Asked if Seymour would report to the Raiders, Harrison said, “I don’t know that. Only Richard knows that. But I wouldn’t go to Oakland. There’s no way in the world I would go to Oakland. The only way I would report is if they promised they wouldn’t franchise me after this year.”
September 8th, 2009 at 6:01 pm
Cornell Green should make believe opposing D.E’s are his wife getting smart and trying to leave.
September 8th, 2009 at 6:04 pm
Raider E Says:
September 8th, 2009 at 6:01 pm
Cornell Green should make believe opposing D.E’s are his wife getting smart and trying to leave.
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He is big enough to hid a mop handle in his pants.
September 8th, 2009 at 6:04 pm
2 rookie wideouts starting? Thats all we have huh? I guess its a good thing we didn’t draft a lineman. He would look pretty silly running a post route.
September 8th, 2009 at 6:04 pm
Kell will you just stop it already. EBERIBODY has already read that
September 8th, 2009 at 6:05 pm
look at our offense. playmakers at rb dmc bush wr schilenz dhb murphy higgins te miller, qb russell. now add some playmakers on the ol and u have some on every position. we add a few pieces and let that grow. not 2 mention lechler and jano on st with higgins, maybe n miller. next year we add some guys on d and hope r safeties come alive this year and we have a complete team that can dominate every phase of the game. how many teams can say that? dont let the media fool you, they know whats up.
September 8th, 2009 at 6:09 pm
BART Bridge Blues Says:
September 8th, 2009 at 4:57 pm
I think Belicheck just invented a new strategy for dealing with players that holdout for new contracts. Call it the “Black Hole Treatment”. Say your star player is approaching his contract year, but wants a new contract done sooner. Rather than give in to his demands, you trade his rights to the Raiders, contingent on showing up and passing a physical. Once said player gets a taste of what his future might hold in Oakland, invite him back to the bargaining table and let him know the trade can be voided, but he needs to end his holdout immediately. BAM, you just got Black Holed Richard Seymour, look for this new little trick to be discussed in the coming CBA’s. That Belicheck is like the Leonardo of finding “creative” ways to win, on and off the field.
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Except more losers from Oakland have been appeared on the Pats roster than vice versa me lady…
Lamont, Burgess, Andrew Walter…
September 8th, 2009 at 6:09 pm
Don’t get me wrong I am routing for the rookies, but when is the last time an NFL team has started 2 rookies at wideout?
September 8th, 2009 at 6:10 pm
rooting
September 8th, 2009 at 6:10 pm
I had to chuckle at the idea of the legendary Andrew Walter influencing Seymours hesitation to come here. Randy Moss I could understand, but Walter? Is this the same Andrew Walter who just got cut in favor of a rookie QB? Please. Im surprised the bloggers arent up in arms whining about how Andrew didnt get a fair chance in New England, but anyway Im getting off topic. Seymour is under contract, I dont see what gives him the right to not report until a new deal is done, if that is even the case. Im hoping there is some clause in the deal that says if he doesnt report that we can void the trade, but somehow I doubt it. Al always gets his man, whether he wants to be here or not. Either way, the longer this drags on the more worrisome it becomes. Seymour will come if Al dangles a big enough carrot in front of him, but is bringing in players who dont want to be here really the answer? Youd think Al would have learned his lesson from Sapp and Moss among others, but Al’s Al. He always gets his man regardless, deep down they all want to be Raiders, or so he thinks.
September 8th, 2009 at 6:12 pm
Nooooo! Bashing by an ex-charger loudmouth. Big surprise.
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KoolKell Says:
September 8th, 2009 at 6:01 pm
Harrison: Seymour’s “not thrilled” with deal to Raiders
Posted by Tom Curran on September
Retired safety Rodney Harrison told PFT Monday night that he has spoken to his former Patriots teammate and close friend Richard Seymour about the deal that sent Seymour to Oakland.
And?
“He’s not thrilled,” said Harrison, now an analyst for NBC’s Football Night in America. “Who would be thrilled to go to the Oakland Raiders? Maybe somebody who’s happy to just get a chance but not a guy like Richard Seymour, a five-time Pro Bowler. For a veteran player to go to Oakland at this juncture it’s just difficult.
“Put yourself in his position,” Harrison added. “He’s going from a first-class organization to one of the worst in the NFL. You have the head coach fighting the assistant coaches, the owner involved in the day-to-day operations, guys who don’t believe in the quarterback. . . . Tom Brady to JaMarcus Russell? Come on. Is that something to look forward to? Why would he be excited?”
Asked if Seymour would report to the Raiders, Harrison said, “I don’t know that. Only Richard knows that. But I wouldn’t go to Oakland. There’s no way in the world I would go to Oakland. The only way I would report is if they promised they wouldn’t franchise me after this year.”
September 8th, 2009 at 6:13 pm
Raider E Says:
September 8th, 2009 at 6:09 pm
Don’t get me wrong I am routing for the rookies, but when is the last time an NFL team has started 2 rookies at wideout?
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Man, if we’d started rookies last year it would’ve been better.
So bad in 08 at the position anything might’ve been preferable.
September 8th, 2009 at 6:13 pm
Terrapin Says:
September 8th, 2009 at 6:04 pm
Kell will you just stop it already. EBERIBODY has already read that-
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Then why are you & Priest pretending not to know whats’s going on?
September 8th, 2009 at 6:14 pm
Isn’t everyone tired of all this? I for one want to SEY-NO-MOUR. I rather plan on him not being here and let him be the Patsies distraction. We need to get ready for S.D. with who we have and shove their D..ks in the dirt!!!!
September 8th, 2009 at 6:15 pm
142. Offsides!
Domestic violence is never funny…except this time.
Fortunately, his wife did a simple swim move and dumped him on his face.
September 8th, 2009 at 6:15 pm
Ghost,
All trades are contingent upon reporting for and passing a physical, period. If he doesnt pass one(which includes not showing for it) the trade is negated.
September 8th, 2009 at 6:18 pm
By the way, Green never was issued a suspension for his b.s. Why would Merriman? I want to beat S.D. at full strength anyway. Doesn’t everyone else?
September 8th, 2009 at 6:19 pm
kell why do have to be so negative? we all know what was said by that elitist prick harrison. cant u give al davis credit for making a move that cleary upgrades this team? u are one of the main ones here postin winning% and lack of run defense and here u have the old guy tryin to rectify that. u cant even let up alittle for this? so what if seymour is actin like a baby, he s a professional. doesnt this say more about him and these spoiled ass players than mr davis? seymour aint goin broke anytime soon and moves like this is what reverses that losing streak u love team regurgitate
September 8th, 2009 at 6:21 pm
The media and everyone else is turning this into a distraction that this team does not need. Talk about haters!!!!
September 8th, 2009 at 6:21 pm
Look everyone this thing will get done, and Seymour will play the first game. I will be in my seats watching him stop the run and sack the QB. Now the only question I have is where do I buy my Seymour Jersey (Throw back mind you) on such short notice? That’s the only thing I’m worried about.
September 8th, 2009 at 6:22 pm
I don’t ignore it KK. I see it for what it is. What are you going to do about except complain? It solves nothing – lips just flappin’ in the wind.
Instead just hope the team wins games. If they win a lot of this stuff goes away. Simple as that.
September 8th, 2009 at 6:23 pm
They can win games without Seymour, simple as that.
September 8th, 2009 at 6:23 pm
Its when you lose that everything within the organization becomes simply chaotic (or at least more so than normal).
Win. Coaches stay put, players progress.
Lose. Everything is shuffle and reshuffle-confidence in coaches and players become eroded.
September 8th, 2009 at 6:24 pm
It is his show. Like it or not.
September 8th, 2009 at 6:25 pm
Interesting note about Langston Walker. He played at Cal under new Raiders offensive line coach Jim Michalczik.
All I remember him being good at is blocking field goals and that he is 6′8″ tall.
September 8th, 2009 at 6:29 pm
Thanks Raiderwoj, thats what I thought the deal was. But Ive read reports that the trade has already gone through, the transaction was listed on nfl.com, Seymour is on the roster at the Raiders website, Belichick himself said they no longer had the rights to him. I havent read anything yet about him taking a physical. I wonder if Al would hang onto his rights even if he refused to report or take a physical, sadly I think he would. After all he did talk Javon Walker out of retirement when he even offered to give his bonus back. Think Al wishes he had that 11 million now? But yeah, like I said Al is Al, for better or worse. He always gets his guy. I just have a bad feeling about this one.
September 8th, 2009 at 6:29 pm
150. Who cares. Harrison’s following the Warren Sapp media rookie “say something inflammatory about Oakland to get air time” routine.
September 8th, 2009 at 6:29 pm
“The Raiders unofficial depth chart will be posted on Tuesday, September 8th.”
Empty..
Can somebody please notify the organization what day it is?
September 8th, 2009 at 6:31 pm
163. Oh have no illusions, we all know big Al makes misteps and is culpable we just feel like hoping players will fall in line and do their frikkin jobs. Its Al’s team, Al’s way and the sooner they realize it, the sooner we’ll start winning…
September 8th, 2009 at 6:31 pm
163, You know, other organizations, like Denvfer and KC have made serious misteps too…
September 8th, 2009 at 6:31 pm
Canadian Raider Says:
September 8th, 2009 at 3:34 pm
If this situation doesnt motivate the Defense I dont know what will. They should be so hungry and physical to see what people think of them without Seymour. They have get themselves ready mentally as if Seymour wasnt coming.
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Oh sure.
Because that’s just how it works in the NFL.
The Kwame Harris’s say ‘They say I’m a bust. I’ll show them.”
Bey was heard muttering: “They graded the Raiders an F in the draft? THE ONLY TEAM GRADED AN F? BECAUSE OF ME??? Wait until those preseason games get here..I’ll show them.”
Amazing that some of you think these players need to be “inspired”. They’re in the NFL. They’ve done a ton to get there. They have to work their ass off to stay there. If any of them need to be “motivated” they’re already on the bench, and likely on the way out.
Simple facts are some players are better than others.
A player may compliment another players play, but in the NFL, if you aren’t giving it your all, you’re on the way out.
Seymour will fill a hole. ONE hole. The other holes? Like it or not, they’re still there.
September 8th, 2009 at 6:32 pm
Yeah Terrapin
I’m going to complain like hell, what else can I do.
I’m damned sure not going to make happy talk, while the Raiders are the laughing stock of the League.
I don’t understand some of you people.
September 8th, 2009 at 6:32 pm
Exactly, I don’t bother even listening to those guys. Goes in one ear, right out the other.
The only critism I don’t mind hearing is that of Gannon’s. That guy is always calling it like it is.
Sometimes he acts like he is working for BSPN, but most of the time it’s respectable. He doesn’t say it just to talk crap.
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Nnamdi21 Says:
September 8th, 2009 at 6:29 pm
150. Who cares. Harrison’s following the Warren Sapp media rookie “say something inflammatory about Oakland to get air time” routine.
September 8th, 2009 at 6:32 pm
166. Of course Al would keep his rights.
If Seymour doesn’t report with in 5 days of Oakland serving formal notice, they can list him as such and bench his azz without pay for the year and then retain rights to him for the next year too.
September 8th, 2009 at 6:34 pm
Rodney Harrison couldn’t get a ring until he signed on with a team that got caught for cheating to get the ring. He himself was caught cheating as well when he was busted for taking HGH.
Whether what he said is true or not, he is just another cheating athlete, with zero credibility, clinging to any last shred of hope of remaining in the spotlight.
Plus Rodney Harrison isn’t a very intelligent individual, I am suprised that anyone would pay that man to formulate thought and attempt to speak on it. Then again Emmitt Smith was once a paid announcer and he’s dumber than a sack of rocks…
September 8th, 2009 at 6:34 pm
I am really surprised nobody has been discussing the restructured deals of Green and McQuistan. It had to be done as a procedural move because the incoming contract, but should he not take the physical the deal cant be consumated.
I am sure its simply money at this point, and not being one and done, but it makes you scratch your head and wonder 60 hours in and no deal reached yet….
September 8th, 2009 at 6:35 pm
171. The theory being with Seymour on the line SOMEONES going to get doubled so ONE of those guys should have a mismatch or at least man on man blocking and SHOULD make a play.
In theory…
September 8th, 2009 at 6:35 pm
I hik we all will feel better with him being at practice. I dont have a problem with signing him for a three year deal as previously reported. Just dont bet the farm Al. Give him a nice, fair, backloaded deal.
September 8th, 2009 at 6:35 pm
178. here here
September 8th, 2009 at 6:37 pm
Same ol’ broken record the past 3 years.
You’re starting to grow on me Kell.
Yes, I know:
- 6 losing years
- Worst record in the past decade
- Laughing stock of the NFL
- Yes, you’ve been a fan for the last 50 years
We’ve heard that ish before many times from you and the media. Repeating over and over doesn’t get anything accomplished. So enjoy the ride until there is change man. No one is happy of losing, except for Norco’s 40-whinner butt.
Put in a new record man.
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KoolKell Says:
September 8th, 2009 at 6:32 pm
Yeah Terrapin
I’m going to complain like hell, what else can I do.
I’m damned sure not going to make happy talk, while the Raiders are the laughing stock of the League.
I don’t understand some of you people.
September 8th, 2009 at 6:38 pm
The juice they drink in ne ain’t kool-aid…….give him another twenty-four hours and he’ll be able to pass the physical………..
September 8th, 2009 at 6:39 pm
KoolKell Says:
September 8th, 2009 at 6:32 pm
“Yeah Terrapin
I’m going to complain like hell, what else can I do.
I’m damned sure not going to make happy talk, while the Raiders are the laughing stock of the League.
I don’t understand some of you people.”
I think it’s a personal choice. Some people choose to focus on the positive, whatever or however slim that may be. Others choose to dwell on the negative because they have no control over the ultimate outcome.
It’s all about perspective and how you choose to view things.
It’s also one thing to be in denial of the negative, it’s another to recognize, yet not dwell on it or let it define your ultimate vision.
September 8th, 2009 at 6:40 pm
176. Davis has a little experience with contracts and deals.
Some former Raiders may bad talk the Raiders, but comparably, very few bish about their contracts and pay.
No ill will toward a player but I wouldn’t cry if Seymour shows up and kicks the fug outa SD’s questionable O line and takes Phillip Rivers out for the season.
Cassel’s not the only one with a bad knee….
September 8th, 2009 at 6:40 pm
Alright folks. Time to take the Bart ride across the Bay. Time for a Cool Corona.
And no KoolKell, not hitting and running. I will be back on when I get home and put the little one to bed. This is the only time I get to post anything.
Have a good one.
September 8th, 2009 at 6:41 pm
here,here 182
September 8th, 2009 at 6:41 pm
Whether what he said is true or not, he is just another cheating athlete, with zero credibility, clinging to any last shred of hope of remaining in the spotlight
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A lot more credibility than you Dogg. He played with the guy, talked to him on the phone, ya know. Won a ring with the guy……
September 8th, 2009 at 6:43 pm
181. THERES the medias latest angle. Ever notice how they take unverified rumor and blair it likes its gospel? No need to verify sh-it in toadys BS media.
Seymour can’t pass physical because of drug test?
we all know the Pats cheat but…
September 8th, 2009 at 6:44 pm
184. Good on ya! Enjoy my Raider bretheren…
September 8th, 2009 at 6:47 pm
Well, I guess I just have more invested in the Raiders, than you young fantasy video-game playing pootbutts. I’m old-skool, I grew up with Charlie Smith. Mt mother used to do quite a few of their taxes, back in the day. Back then they were only making 60,000-80,000, they lived in the hood. I was at those Kansas City games in the 60’s where we had to battle Curly Culp, Buch Buchannon Aaron Bell, Len Dawson, Otis Taylor, shyyt. And the Pittsburg games in the 70’s where we had to battle the Steel Curtain, they were some bad mf’s. But, we had Gene Upshaw, who did all the talking, and Art Shell, so. But when I look up and see how the Raiders have performed on the field and off, it is completely unacceptable. Even the notion of the Raiders being someones laughing stock, is serious business, to me. But that’s me.
September 8th, 2009 at 6:49 pm
KoolKell Says:
September 8th, 2009 at 6:41 pm
Whether what he said is true or not, he is just another cheating athlete, with zero credibility, clinging to any last shred of hope of remaining in the spotlight
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A lot more credibility than you Dogg. He played with the guy, talked to him on the phone, ya know. Won a ring with the guy……”
KK
I never questioned that he talked to the guy. Re-read the very first sentence “Whether what he said is true or not” which clearly shows I am not questioning whether he talked to Seymour or not, that’s what that statement means.
My point was basically, although what Harrison said may be true, consider the fact that he is reprehensible as a person and why should I give a sh1t what he says? He is just one of many people that continually dump on my favorite team, whether it’s true or not I am just letting it roll and not bother me as much as it clearly bothers you. It is out of our control. All I can do is hope for the best and fuk all the nonsense.
I am knocking your ways, I am just saying we happen to see things differently.
As far as my credibilty goes, credibility and integrity are 2 different things. I know which one I have more of compared to Harrison.
September 8th, 2009 at 6:49 pm
Profootballtalk.com
Raiders Working On Long Term Deal With Seymour
September 8th, 2009
The Oakland Raiders are working on a long term deal for defensive end Richard Seymour and are hoping that he accepts a new three year deal with the team. Seymour who was reportedly expected to arrive in Oakland on Tuesday is looking for “job security” on a long term deal that will make him one of the highest paid defensive ends in the league.
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I guess they might as well pay him now. It will cost the same as franchising him next year. Was Julius Peppers not available for a 1st round pick??
September 8th, 2009 at 6:49 pm
T’pin, let KK be KK. It’s better that way let him moan and cry. While we just keep getting up. I’m a fighter not a whinner. No matter how many times the media tries to kick us and tell we shouldn’t have hope while MR Davis is running things, I know better. I’m here because of Mr Davis an I’m going to give him every chance to ge it right because I KNOW he cares.
That is a TON more tha wat the media has to offer. These losing seasons are killing him and us, on the other hand the media loves it.
KK, can keep his head stuck up the media’s ass. As if they’ve ever done anything for him or the Raiders.
September 8th, 2009 at 6:50 pm
KK
I have been a fan of the Raiders since 1971. Does that disqualify me from being a “young fantasy video-game playing pootbutt”? lol
What was that old saying that you taught me “If if’s and butts were candy and nuts”?
September 8th, 2009 at 6:52 pm
I would question any deal longer then three years. Hopefully he can bring some accountability to this DL. Something Ellis is trying to bring.
September 8th, 2009 at 6:55 pm
Canadian Raider Says:
September 8th, 2009 at 4:25 pm
ex Raider bashers.
Warren Sapp made more money with thr Raiders then entire career with bucks.
Lamont Jorden back up running back for the jets 25 million dollar contract with the raiders.
Burgess couldnt stop the run if there was know one blocking him.
Andrew Walter, enough said.
Moss well he bashes everyone but himself.
I am glad they are gone, these are the players who started all the bs in the dressing room. Seymour is a class act and I hope hes not listening to those idiots.
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First off, what’s your point? Are you saying that if you get a good contract, you should then turn a blind eye to a badly run organization? That if you get a good contract..LIKE PLAYERS ON EACH AND EVERY OTHER TEAM, that now you shouldn’t answer someone’s questions on “how was it with the Raiders’?? They they should LIE??
WTF??
And “andrew walter. enough said”? What does that mean? That because he didn’t do great that he shouldn’t call it like he sees it?
That’s ignorant..ignorant as hell.
And no they didn’t start it..players have been complaining for years and years.
Fabian Washington
Dominic Rhodes
Cooper
Jordan
Simms
Gannon
Rice
Tim Brown
Carr
player after player after player after player…all state how bad things are in Oakland.
this isn’t new.
And it’s not like players don’t know how dysfunctional it is in Oakland.
September 8th, 2009 at 6:56 pm
Seymour could have been here yesterday for a physical if he wanted to. Only a brain dead idiot would suggest..
“Seymour may be even trying to get here to get ready we don’t know”
Priest, everybody but you knows he’s not trying to get here you Ninny!
September 8th, 2009 at 6:56 pm
Any of you guys going to play off the Merriman choking story with a couple of signs at Monday’s game.
How about playing off one of these Obama “HOPE” posters:
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2247/2231258092_43d8e672b5.jpg
and creating one with Merriman’s pic on it and have it say “CHOKE ARTIST”.
September 8th, 2009 at 6:58 pm
Richochet, what will it take to get you to quit posting 8×12 post full of horse sh|t ?
September 8th, 2009 at 6:59 pm
Look at Mista, getting all funky in here. reiterating what everyone has been saying for two days and calling people stupid.
Everybody knows that SistaBrown!!
September 8th, 2009 at 7:02 pm
I came home on day from school in the late 60’s and Art Shell was sitting on the couch.
September 8th, 2009 at 7:04 pm
I stared at him till he became uncomfortable. lol
September 8th, 2009 at 7:05 pm
And what did you do, run and cry and whine? Like now.
September 8th, 2009 at 7:05 pm
I’m sorry, why don’t you tell us the whole story KK? It’s bedtime for some of us.
September 8th, 2009 at 7:06 pm
KK
You should go bowling on Sunday, maybe some of them will remember you.
September 8th, 2009 at 7:10 pm
My mother did some of their taxes. Charlie Smith, Shell, Atkinson, Ray Chester, that I know of.
Charlie Smith, My father, me, and a couple others raised horses, up on Redwood Road near Lake Chabot.
September 8th, 2009 at 7:14 pm
Sorry about the last post, I hope he’s the real deal and helps this team. I don’t trust ne and this deal seems a little odd so far………
September 8th, 2009 at 7:14 pm
I’m sorry KK, I know that’s a very fond memory for you and it would be for me too if the same thing happened. I shouldn’t have said those things I’m genuinely sorry.
September 8th, 2009 at 7:15 pm
priesttj Says:
September 8th, 2009 at 5:54 pm
Let me tell ya’ Mr Davis has had a lot of exprience with Parker and he wont play games with Mr davis like he’s playing with the 49ers. Trust me. This is something with the Pat’s………period
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Stupid comment.
He’s “playing games” with SF, but won’t with Al?
Damn dude..could you be any more pathetic if you took a class?
TELL ME WHICH PLAYERS HE’S DEALT WITH, WITH THE RAIDERS, WHERE HE BACKED OFF?
You can’t, you moron.
Hell, if there is ONE OWNER IN THE NFL THAT AGENTS WANT TO DEAL WITH, IT’S AL DAVIS.
Look at Hall’s deal. Walkers deal. Wilson’s deal. Kelly’s deal. Kwame’s deal..AND THAT’S ALL IN ONE OFFSEASON..then there’s Aso’s record contract, when Al COULD HAVE SIGNED HIM FOR MUCH LESS just one year earlier..then there’s Lechler’s record deal…SAME THING..waited too long and had to pay.
Here’s how the negotiations work with Al.
Agent: “my client want’s 12 mil for 4 years”
Al: “20 mil for 6 years, or no deal”
Agent: “uh…uh…well..how about 25 for 7 years?
Al: “49 million, 8 years, my absolute final offer”
Agent: “wow..well..you’re da man, Al.. you sure drive a hard bargain..let’s do it”
EVERYONE KNOWS WHAT’S BEING SAID..” You’ll hate it there, but Al’s getting old, and will give you any contract you want.”
September 8th, 2009 at 7:15 pm
Sure, lol
September 8th, 2009 at 7:20 pm
When your on the bottom as long as we’ve been it takes twice the money to get people signed. Not exactly but you get the point. We have to over pay to get and keep people just like my job. I work weekends most year and deal with it and the B.S. because I get paid more money. If all things were even I’d be at a better place.
September 8th, 2009 at 7:22 pm
yes its disgusting to see some of these guys quit and not have any fight in them. hell they represent oakland which has a rough rep. how does that make me feel to see them get punked like they have? it makes me sick like every1else. i didnt need 2 see art shell in his prime 2 be upset. i damn sho didnt need 2 see him on my couch but im just as pissed as u are. kell what do u think of the move to get seymour? fukk all the losing % u love to post. tell us what u think of the players u like on this team. can this move make us a better team? do u think it helps solve that horrible run d?
September 8th, 2009 at 7:24 pm
Ask yourself…would you rather have Al or some an owner who was some cheap SOB
September 8th, 2009 at 7:27 pm
i gotta a question….
who’s better langston walker or cornell green ?
walker was waived by buffalo started every game since 2006
September 8th, 2009 at 7:27 pm
I’m not sure how long this is going to take but this thing could run into next week. I really want Seymour ready 1st thing Monday night.
Sproiles and LT will have a field day running at TScott.
September 8th, 2009 at 7:30 pm
if your answer was walker let ask this …
walker or barnes ?
September 8th, 2009 at 7:31 pm
Brown at SLB should help. Alston was just atrocious …well maybe that’s too harsh …lets just say he was bad, very bad.
September 8th, 2009 at 7:31 pm
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September 8th, 2009 at 7:33 pm
for those of u who are interested, comcast sportsnet talked about the deal with seymour included discussions about getting wilfork instead but “settled” for seymour when they couldnt get wilfork. so they tried to get a guy alot of u wanted but he wasnt available. people think they can get whoever they want but the other team has to be willing to give that player up first. once again u cant say the old man doesnt try.
September 8th, 2009 at 7:33 pm
I see Jerry is still is here stirring it up …
Or is that Kawakami?
Nancy?
Cmon, stop with the Ricochet handle and post under your real name!
September 8th, 2009 at 7:34 pm
Walker is a power OT. Not the athletic cut blockers we are looking for here. Not a match.
September 8th, 2009 at 7:40 pm
Walker got beat out by a 7th round pick or something close to it.
They both suck..
# bombs4ya Says:
September 8th, 2009 at 7:27 pm
i gotta a question….
who’s better langston walker or cornell green ?
walker was waived by buffalo started every game since 2006
September 8th, 2009 at 7:43 pm
I love the idea of getting a D-Lineman of Seymour’s quality.
But I thought Randy Moss and Al Davis went together like peas & carrots too, so………..
Seems a lot of players who’ve came here recently from winning organizations become dismayed at the culture.
September 8th, 2009 at 7:44 pm
Walker was beat out by Karl Malone’s son.
September 8th, 2009 at 7:44 pm
raidertay Says:
September 8th, 2009 at 7:24 pm
Ask yourself…would you rather have Al or some an owner who was some cheap SOB
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did somebody mention charlie o finley???
September 8th, 2009 at 7:46 pm
# Terrapin Says:
September 8th, 2009 at 7:31 pm
Brown at SLB should help. Alston was just atrocious …well maybe that’s too harsh …lets just say he was bad, very bad.
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We’ll see. Brown didn’t do much for the Run D when he played the first half or so of last season. There was really no drop-off after Alston took over.
Plus Brown was atrocious at MLB vs. the Saints. Even though Kirk didn’t play in that game, the competition for the MLB spot was decided right then and there based on Brown’s lackluster play. Brown looks like a backup to me. This team needs help at SLB. Brown and Alston are backups/special teams guys but neither can really be counted upon to man a full-time starting gig.
Seymour would help tremendously. DE is the biggest problem with our Run D. Then LBs. Then DTs. I think Nnamdi and Chris Johnson play the run very well for DBs. Eugene does a solid job and Branch is solid with a chance to be very good. Mitchell obviously could be great if he is who we think he is, but we won’t see that for a little while.
The big running plays we give up look like this:
– Scott gets blown out or shoved down into the DT/G into a pile in the center of the line.
– The LBs get sucked into that pile or are other wise out of position to make the tackle.
– An 8-yard wide hole opens.
– The secondary has to chase the back out of bounds 15-20 yards down field.
This happens all the time.
Seymour can be a tremendous help, then the LBs just need to step up their game and play with much better recognition about what’s developing in front of them.
September 8th, 2009 at 7:50 pm
Seymour just needs to show up so he can help us beat the Chargers damnit! Hurry up already.
September 8th, 2009 at 7:52 pm
FEED ME SEYMOUR!!!
September 8th, 2009 at 7:52 pm
I was sitin up here watching Seymore highlights. One thing is fo r sure the guy is double teamed on every single play. Even though he is fighting two guys he holds the point of attack.
September 8th, 2009 at 7:54 pm
What happened to the depth chart?
September 8th, 2009 at 7:54 pm
Kudos to Al Davis for trying to make this work…regardless of the outcome.
They really didn’t have a choice. Marching out the lineup as-is would have been a disaster. Signing Seymour will keep the Raiders in several games…especially with the run oriented teams on the schedule.
Was the price steep? Maybe. But with Seymour, the Raiders might win 3 extra games this year. They really needed to address that D-Line
September 8th, 2009 at 7:54 pm
The big running plays we give up look like this:
– Scott gets blown out or shoved down into the DT/G into a pile in the center of the line.
– The LBs get sucked into that pile or are other wise out of position to make the tackle.
– An 8-yard wide hole opens.
– The secondary has to chase the back out of bounds 15-20 yards down field.
This happens all the time.
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Yup … That about sums it up.
September 8th, 2009 at 7:56 pm
Very interesting that they wouldn’t give up Wilfork. I wonder if they offered the same 1st rnd pick? I would’ve thought that Wilfork would’ve surely got traded since they drafted Brace.
September 8th, 2009 at 7:56 pm
12:53
[Comment From Norco Bob]
Jerry, will Al consider giving Gruden what he wants to return?…by the way youre a punk.
<—– LMAO
September 8th, 2009 at 7:57 pm
What I don’t understand is why William Joseph was let go. He was having a really good camp.
September 8th, 2009 at 7:58 pm
Check this out youtube. Go to the 3:30 mark and see Seymore running a 40 yd dash. Big man can move.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7VMK3K-lF44
September 8th, 2009 at 7:59 pm
Thats pretty much how it goes. Right side of the line, TScott position predominantly, gets either pushed back, washed out or thrown down into the DT. That has happened way too much for my liking.
I mean even the TEs Whitten/VDavis straight pancaked TScott man up!
That just cannot happen if you any hopes of stopping the run. So yes, a player of Seymour’s stature can help tremendously on that side. That’s why I want him to be here Monday night.
September 8th, 2009 at 8:00 pm
Seymour makes us a legitimate contender for the AFC west title. Without him we would have to have about 5-6 players all reach there potential in this year to even think we would have a chance. That is the importance of this trade. That is the importance of Richard Seymour. That is no B.S.
September 8th, 2009 at 8:00 pm
This is really starting to smell bad for all parties involved. Seymour wanted TONS of jack, Bellichek was not about to give it up, and he went the way of Ty Law and Asante Samuel among others: out the door. Right now, Seymour has limited options: The Idiots aren’t about to take him back, so he can either report, or retire. The Raiders are trying to play the good guys here by working out a longer term higher paying deal, but maybe they should just let him not report and nullify the deal.
September 8th, 2009 at 8:04 pm
Oakglenn
That makes too much sense. Lol I think he has enough left in the tank to sign him to the deal. Anyways who on our defense can even hold his jock? Besides Aso.
September 8th, 2009 at 8:06 pm
Trevor Scott is a big black hole. I was lobbying for Jay Richardson, but someone brought up the point that he has been the starter on the past two horrendous years of run defense. Seymore is a HUGE upgrade over both and fill the biggest gaping hole in this defense.
September 8th, 2009 at 8:09 pm
I’ll still to JRich at that spot on run downs vs Scott. Even MattS. I’m telling you – watching you RDE get handled like that is not good.
September 8th, 2009 at 8:09 pm
Speakin of Aso. Have you guys seen that gay as Aso commercial with him working out in the mall in the heat.
September 8th, 2009 at 8:10 pm
seymore will report thursday.
right about now the reality is setting in.
post 243, you’re absolutely right. that’s cable’s plan to win the west. then see what happens. if the o-line cannot get beat physically we stand to pull the upset.
September 8th, 2009 at 8:11 pm
MAtt S played REALLY well last game. Did you see that play when he dropped into coverage and came up and laid the RB out on a screen pass. I was very impressed.
September 8th, 2009 at 8:13 pm
Raiderken,
The Raiders absolutely have to get Seymour in here. HAve to overpay as well.
With him in there, the Defensive line is respectable. Seymour holds the edge forcing running backs inside and all WArren has to do is hold his ground…..TK gets fewer double teams and should finally show us why he got all that money….Ellis gets more effective.
Then our delicate to the touch linebackers won’t have to worry about shedding blockers at full-steam or having to run sideline to sideline.
They have to get this guy in there because Richardson, Scott, Shaughnessy etc…can’t get it done at this stage in their collective careers and Warren is not a dominant enough DT to attract extra attention.
Get the deal done. OVerpay if you have to.
September 8th, 2009 at 8:15 pm
I think the Pattsies just jumped the gun on the deal. I thought it was a little weird that Oakland never really put up the signing on their homepage (although they showed in on the transaction page AFTER it was already all over the new and the patriots confirmed). Usually a deal like this, with this magnitude, the Raiders will put it up there faster than normal.
September 8th, 2009 at 8:16 pm
I’m sure for Seymour there are a lot of emotions. Getting traded by a team is like getting dumped by your girlfriend. I’m sure it hurts leaving the only team and pro team mates he has ever known. That’s the bad news. The good news is there is a team that wants him. And If he comes here and plays well, he’ll make a ton of new friends.
September 8th, 2009 at 8:17 pm
Well scratch that last. I’m tired of speculating on this. Just get it done.
Peace.
September 8th, 2009 at 8:17 pm
priesttj Says:
September 8th, 2009 at 7:22 pm
Stupid fool, I’ve met Eugene Parker back when he didn’t have many clients my cousin was one of his first clients who played for the Raiders. So early in his career Mr Davis was negoiating with him. They know each other very well.
I don’t have to tell who got the better of those deals.
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Besides the fact you’re full of crap, I see you avoided the question.
Question was WHICH PLAYER THAT EUGENE GOT SIGNED WITH, WITH THE RAIDERS, WHERE HE CUT AL SOME SLACK.
See, dumbass, “early in his career” the agent DEALT WITH WHICH EVER TEAM THEIR CLIENT ENDED UP SIGNING WITH..fool.
If an agent doesn’t get the client the BEST DEAL POSSIBLE, ON A WHIM THE PLAYER CAN FIRE THE AGENT..so don’t even run that weakass crap.
You have NO NAME because you’re full of crap.
September 8th, 2009 at 8:19 pm
Didn’t Seymour hold out in 2006 AND 2007?
One year I believe was for more money..other year was for an extension on his contract?
The drama has only just begun, lol.
this should be fun.
September 8th, 2009 at 8:25 pm
jay rich showed alot of energy against seattle.
i’m thinking tommy kelly playing end on run downs ,
the put seymore on pass downs at end. thats one posibility. seymore creates alot options. it’s been said offensive cordinators have to game plan around seymore .
we’ve upgraded big time this should help our middle linebacker make plays time will tell
September 8th, 2009 at 8:31 pm
jhill Says:
September 8th, 2009 at 7:33 pm
I see Jerry is still is here stirring it up …
Or is that Kawakami?
Nancy?
Cmon, stop with the Ricochet handle and post under your real name!
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LMAO…damn…do I have you guys jumping through hoops, or what?
Considering everyone you mentioned is an established writer, in their own right, I’ll take that as a compliment.
No, it’s NOT important that YOU or any of the other fleas here disagree with what any of the above writers have written in their articles, because a writers job is to stir emotion, while prompting some spineless gumby’s to actually step up, and take a stand. Some of you hate them, because they dared to make you address the fact your team is crappola.
Well, you know what they say..”shoot the messenger”.
Again, thanks for the compliments.
BTW it would be rather difficult for me to be Jerry, considering that while he’s covering practice, or on his live blog, I’ve stopped in here, on occasion, to enlighten some of your lives.
September 8th, 2009 at 8:32 pm
Obviously……..
Raiders with Joseph and a 2011 1st rounder…
Raiders without Joseph and 2011 1st rounder + Seymour are better.
Don’t even get me started on how much money we save on whatever Seymour signs for compared to what a 1st rounder gets paid (never mind he would only be the DB with the fastest time or a DE or something that would make a great something else) plus we get a player who contributes immediately for 2 years plus development time for the draft pick.
No Brainer!!! Great move Al!! Rot in Hades MR! (dude, richochet, et al)
September 8th, 2009 at 8:33 pm
this server still sucks…Jerry, you can say nothing about Al Davis’s organization until your own does something about this 32nd ranked server!
September 8th, 2009 at 8:34 pm
When Seymour arrives later this week the biggest benefactor will be the other defensive linemen. You can’t double up everyone. That leaves Kelly, Warren and Desmond Bryant one on one. That will be a problem for offenses. They will have to keep backs and TE’s in.
September 8th, 2009 at 8:34 pm
Richochet Says:
September 8th, 2009 at 8:19 pm
Didn’t Seymour hold out in 2006 AND 2007?
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Seymour has started 105 out of 111 possible career games. Wrong again rack-o. Shouldn’t you be out at Whiner HQ waiting for Craptree to show??
September 8th, 2009 at 8:35 pm
lmao
September 8th, 2009 at 8:36 pm
Ricochet…only you are impressed with your antics.
Find a home buddy…this isn’t it.
September 8th, 2009 at 8:36 pm
Oak, it’s going to be fine IMHO? we can’t react to everything, soon enough Seymour himself will speak and that will be the end of it.
Eugene Parker is not dealing with a fresh face kid like Jed. He’s dealing with Big Al and money wont be the sticking point if I were to venture a guess an agreement has already been struck dollars wise, but it’s something going on with the Pat’s. It’s just a matter of time because both teams have made the trade and have an accord so it’s Seymour’s issue with the Pat’s.
He is an Oakland Raider……….period
September 8th, 2009 at 8:38 pm
RaiderKen Says:
September 8th, 2009 at 8:04 pm
Oakglenn
That makes too much sense.
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Do not EVER put Oakglenn and “makes too much sense” in the same sentence again.
September 8th, 2009 at 8:38 pm
Seymour has been around long enough to step out on the field Sept. 14th and know what to do…probably a lot better than everybody else we have who have been here all along.
September 8th, 2009 at 8:41 pm
The more I think about this deal the more it seems like a crummy one for OAK. This move is for a short term solution that probably won’t last much. If Big Sey plays half as$ because he becomes unhappy or he gets injured that’s it. Davis is just trying to save himself the embarrassment of having 16 games of 250+yds run against them.
The run D must be worse than anyone thinks.
September 8th, 2009 at 8:41 pm
Richochet…luckily for you the Internet came along and gave you a place to make people have to hear (read) what you have to say.
Where I come from…guys like you didn’t get to talk very long because you had to say it to our faces.
Know what I mean? Don’t bother responding.
September 8th, 2009 at 8:42 pm
Who are you blaming for that Culebra?
September 8th, 2009 at 8:44 pm
Culebra Says:
September 8th, 2009 at 8:41 pm
The more I think about this deal the more it seems like a crummy one for OAK. This move is for a short term solution that probably won’t last much. If Big Sey plays half as$ because he becomes unhappy or he gets injured that’s it. Davis is just trying to save himself the embarrassment of having 16 games of 250+yds run against them.
The run D must be worse than anyone thinks.
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We have no illusions to how challenged the run defense is.
This move is a necessity. Without Seymour, this defense will get skewered at 150+yds per game on the ground. You can’t win that way. If Seymore can get us a couple of solid years, that will be enough time to draft and bring along a top tier talent.
Who cares about 2011. This team should be a playoff team by then. That 1st round pick will be something in the 18 to 32 range. big deal
September 8th, 2009 at 8:44 pm
Its just incredible how much better the Raiders defense becomes with Seymour. I have been lobbying for the team to sign a solid DE. This was beyond my expectations. This guy plays on the QB’s blindside, he solidifies the run game, he takes on double teams and frees up the other players, he protects the linebackers behind him and with added pressure, our secondary gets more chances at making a play and less time in coverage. Unbelievable!
September 8th, 2009 at 8:46 pm
Seymour might not be happy about coming to Oakland but that doesn’t immediately mean that he won’t try once hes on the field. He might try harder for all we know. Moss was already a bad seed and we can’t help but relive that but that doesn’t mean everyone will do what he did.
September 8th, 2009 at 8:47 pm
Culebra Says:
September 8th, 2009 at 8:41 pm
The more I think about this deal the more it seems like a crummy one for OAK. This move is for a short term solution that probably won’t last much. If Big Sey plays half as$ because he becomes unhappy or he gets injured that’s it. Davis is just trying to save himself the embarrassment of having 16 games of 250+yds run against them.
The run D must be worse than anyone thinks.
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So Al recognizes the team is weak in an area, and he tries to shore it up…much like he has done all the time and isn’t afraid to make a move or pay the money. After that it is up to the player who signed the contract to come through…Al can’t make them do it, they just have to man up.
Hopefully Seymour does…I think he has the cajones to do so, and I’m glad the owner of the team I cheer for has the cajones to try it.
September 8th, 2009 at 8:48 pm
I blame it on Davis because he should be rebuilding his D. I think he should’ve drafted players like Raji to look into the future like all these young players that he has. For them it’s only a matter of time before they break out. Schilens was a great discovery to give Russell a weapon, next the defense was the most glaring deficiency that shoul’ve been addressed.
September 8th, 2009 at 8:49 pm
If anything…if the Seymour trade didn’t follow through, at least other teams are on notice that we’re willing to give up a 1st round pick for a premier defensive end if they’re looking to unload their contract or if the player doesn’t want to be there ala Julius Peppers or anyone else. Some teams may actually say..hey, we could use that 1st round pick…lets make an offer.
September 8th, 2009 at 8:53 pm
Culebra – Its obvious that Davis has had some misses inthe draft or questionable choices, hence letting go of some of our draft picks but at least Davis is willing to make up for a mistake by bringing in one of the best defensive lineman in the NFL.
September 8th, 2009 at 8:54 pm
You know..this could be a win/win thing for the whole Seymour family.
Considering his wife has already been arrested for “lynching” earlier this year, no doubt she can fine tune her aggressive actions on any given corner in east oakland.
September 8th, 2009 at 8:55 pm
Culebra…Raji is no Seymour, and will lucky to be near him in 5 years from now.
That’s the difference…Seymour improves us (a lot) from today and every day and year from now on.
A 1st round pick in 2011 could only hope to do so starting in 2013? 2014? hopefully?
Why do you hate this trade so much….stops your ability to say Al is stupid? makes you afraid the Raiders might be better and can win, and you can’t make easy insults anymore?
Cheer for the Raiders or move along
September 8th, 2009 at 8:56 pm
You mean Seymour’s wife can play the corner position better than Routt? Haha.
September 8th, 2009 at 8:56 pm
rack you just got back from using google. When you’re not here 20 hours a day, how do you spend your time?? Googling yourself??
September 8th, 2009 at 8:57 pm
Richochet….it’s a shame when cousins marry.
But we all know it, and we don’t need you to remind us or prove it daily.
Honestly DUDE, find some friends, hang out, get a personality.
September 8th, 2009 at 8:59 pm
On a good note maybe Seymour should play the role of on-the-field D line coach. If he even gets into this new team for a little bit his habits, tricks o’ the trade and attitude will rub off.
September 8th, 2009 at 8:59 pm
Look…I’m critical of Al Davis but when he makes a trade like this, it tells me alot. Hes paying attention to his coaching staff and their desires and he realizes the weaknesses of his own team and hes willing to do whatever is necessary to win and he also sees the potential in winning our division this year and hes made a move to win today instead of tomorrow. He smells blood and wants to jump all over the opportunity.
September 8th, 2009 at 9:02 pm
Richochet…
Tell me where you get your statistics and therefore opinion on Oakland’s street corner’s.
Answer me please!
September 8th, 2009 at 9:02 pm
This was certainly an interesting stab at trying to get our team back on track. Seymour is a Classic Al kind of guy: 3 time world champion, 5 time pro bowler, he certainly comes with some hardware around his neck. He’s also a pain in the ass. I’m pretty sure Big Sey will eventually come to his senses, report later in the week, go thru a couple of walk thru’s and be ready to go Monday nite.
September 8th, 2009 at 9:06 pm
24 Says:
September 8th, 2009 at 8:44 pm
Its just incredible how much better the Raiders defense becomes with Seymour. I have been lobbying for the team to sign a solid DE.
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This Big Sey guy is a full on, LOCK DOWN DE. There aren’t that many of those.
September 8th, 2009 at 9:07 pm
Oakglenn Says:
September 8th, 2009 at 8:34 pm
Richochet Says:
September 8th, 2009 at 8:19 pm
Didn’t Seymour hold out in 2006 AND 2007?
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Seymour has started 105 out of 111 possible career games. Wrong again rack-o. Shouldn’t you be out at Whiner HQ waiting for Craptree to show??
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Dumbass..the last year of his rookie contract he held out all of mini-camp and the start of training camp.
HE GOT A RAISE TO END THE HOLDOUT.
see..a LOT of deals get made before the season starts, FOOL.
Yeah, LMFAO at your dumbass…and Raiderdoggy following your idiot take with his “lol”.
I suspect that ballless wonder won’t be bailing you out on this..now..will he?
didn’t think so.
September 8th, 2009 at 9:07 pm
Richochet Says:
September 8th, 2009 at 8:19 pm
Didn’t Seymour hold out in 2006 AND 2007?
One year I believe was for more money..other year was for an extension on his contract?
The drama has only just begun, lol.
this should be fun.
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Almost as much fun as watching Crabtree and his pimp Eugene and sidekick Neon steppin and fetchin there way through a contract negotiation when everybody knows he is just trying to steal a payday because he is a one-trick pony who will never cut it in the NFL.
Otherwise, if thought he was legit, he would sign, play, and leverage it into big money and be a player with an opportunity to accumulate stats and be someone.
Not doin it!
September 8th, 2009 at 9:08 pm
don’t get me wrong I love the raiders but I just wish they would only think about the team. Al Davis exasperates me in the way he drafts players. The defense has been down right awful w/ the exception of Asomugha, and I don’t understand why Mr. Davis doesn’t just keep on developing the way he seems to be developing the offense. Although, ironically the most important element–the O line–seems suspect aswell.
September 8th, 2009 at 9:11 pm
Richochet Says:
September 8th, 2009 at 9:07 pm
Oakglenn Says:
September 8th, 2009 at 8:34 pm
Richochet Says:
September 8th, 2009 at 8:19 pm
Didn’t Seymour hold out in 2006 AND 2007?
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Seymour has started 105 out of 111 possible career games. Wrong again rack-o. Shouldn’t you be out at Whiner HQ waiting for Craptree to show??
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Dumbass..the last year of his rookie contract he held out all of mini-camp and the start of training camp.
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What part of started 105 out of 111 games do you not get?? Grown ups are talking here rack-o-sh**. Put on your cute little whiner jammies and go to bed.
September 8th, 2009 at 9:11 pm
who in their right mind would go from a winner to this circus? really? don’t blame you seymour b u t t cheeks!!!
September 8th, 2009 at 9:12 pm
Culebra – Other teams know we have plenty of talent. Its been the coaching decisions Al has made that has affected these players more than anything in my opinion. Too many Head Coaches and a poor Defensive Coordinator for 4 years have not helped the leadership factor and development of the players but right now…the draft is over. The team has talented players and better coaching and Seymour only solidifies what we have already. Its time to move on and see what happens.
September 8th, 2009 at 9:13 pm
Culebra Says:
September 8th, 2009 at 9:08 pm
don’t get me wrong I love the raiders but I just wish they would only think about the team. Al Davis exasperates me in the way he drafts players. The defense has been down right awful w/ the exception of Asomugha, and I don’t understand why Mr. Davis doesn’t just keep on developing the way he seems to be developing the offense. Although, ironically the most important element–the O line–seems suspect aswell.
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You need to understand something buddy…Al couldn’t draft a D-lineman #1 because he already has too much money invested there…#7 money could only be allocated at QB, RB, or WR…we have the first two…that’s draft-enomics 101 for free
September 8th, 2009 at 9:13 pm
OG
there’s dog sh1t on your shoe, you must have stepped in something…
September 8th, 2009 at 9:13 pm
hold out seymour b u t t cheeks we need our #1 pick of 2011 back!
September 8th, 2009 at 9:14 pm
Hey Dogg. rack-o-sh** is banned until Craptree signs. He’s off googling himself right now.
September 8th, 2009 at 9:14 pm
hopefully someone will get it right this time!
September 8th, 2009 at 9:15 pm
OG
he will be waiting a while
September 8th, 2009 at 9:16 pm
Funniest part of all of this is if ANY team should have made a run at Seymour it should have been either the Whiners or Kansas Sh*tty. Both those teams have absolutely NO Defensive lines.
September 8th, 2009 at 9:16 pm
Draft-enomics 101a…trade away a future number 1, because we don’t need anymore of them (we’re full) we need more 2nd, 3rd, 4th, and 5th round ,value draft picks.
Wait a minute…didn’t Al basically trade Burgess and a 1st for Seymour and and a 3rd and 5th? and personally, I think the Raiders are on the way up and the Patriots are on their way down.
September 8th, 2009 at 9:17 pm
aren’t we lucky, it could of been us dealing with this arogant little b a s t a r d of craptree!
September 8th, 2009 at 9:17 pm
How could “#7 money” be allocated to QB or RB? Those are the 1st round players we signed for lucrative contracts for the past two years? Russell and McFadden?
September 8th, 2009 at 9:18 pm
90210, I think that’s why we passed on Craptree. Dude was unsignable. We went after someone in a position of need, that would actually sign.
September 8th, 2009 at 9:19 pm
thank goodness !!!
September 8th, 2009 at 9:21 pm
If I am counting correctly we have a 2nd, 2 3rds, a 4th, and 2 5ths to draft O-line, D-line, and LB next year and none of them are going to break the bank on us.
Genius! Sheer Genius! Praise Al!
Put that in your pipe and smoke it Richochet.
September 8th, 2009 at 9:22 pm
“Wait a minute…didn’t Al basically trade Burgess and a 1st for Seymour and and a 3rd and 5th?”
ding ding ding
September 8th, 2009 at 9:23 pm
Round and round ..
Yeah Seymour is pissed.
So what!
He won’t NOT get paid in 2009. Ask Boldin, Ocho, and all the other disgruntled ultimatum givers. Talk to me when he misses that 250k game check nexy Monday.
September 8th, 2009 at 9:23 pm
Notice how rack-o runs away the second I start teeing off on him??
September 8th, 2009 at 9:25 pm
There was no way in hell Al was going to draft Crabtree without him running a fast 40, or some other off the chart measureable. Once he had the surgery, he zero chance to be a Raider.
September 8th, 2009 at 9:25 pm
Culebra Says:
September 8th, 2009 at 9:17 pm
How could “#7 money” be allocated to QB or RB? Those are the 1st round players we signed for lucrative contracts for the past two years? Russell and McFadden?
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Ah yes Grasshopper….that’s why we drafted WR this year. Only position that could absorb that kind of money…it’s already taken everywhere else (Tommy K et al at Dline also)
September 8th, 2009 at 9:26 pm
Basically Dogg, #301 you got it! I would take that deal all day every day.
September 8th, 2009 at 9:28 pm
I’m sure as hell we could’ve used the best DT out of the ‘08 draft class and still have Murphy too. It is well known good DTs are harder to find and NE didn’t pass on Seymour when he was drafted in the 1st Rd.
September 8th, 2009 at 9:28 pm
Oakglenn Says:
September 8th, 2009 at 9:23 pm
Notice how rack-o runs away the second I start teeing off on him??
or when then are no weaklings on board
September 8th, 2009 at 9:28 pm
I’m out for the night, going to watch Shaq box the Golden Boy.
Have a good night
September 8th, 2009 at 9:29 pm
I really would like to see Seymour buy in and get on board, but it doesn’t look like that’s going to happen in the immediate future.
Hope it’s just contract posturing.
September 8th, 2009 at 9:29 pm
Little Ricky is just one of Jerry’s many internet personalities. There is no other explanation for his presence. What type of person would take the constant abuse on a blog of a team he doesn’t like? Someone who works for it in some capacity and HAS to be here.
September 8th, 2009 at 9:29 pm
might be a mod…Jerry has better things to do…I hope!
September 8th, 2009 at 9:31 pm
This is potentially a good young team. Jamarcus, Bush, Miller, Gallery, Dmac, Shilens, Nam, Kelly, and that’s not including Heyward-Bey, Mike Mitchell, Louis Murphy all of which could develop into solid starters.
September 8th, 2009 at 9:32 pm
# Random Drug Tester Says:
September 8th, 2009 at 9:28 pm
Oakglenn Says:
September 8th, 2009 at 9:23 pm
Notice how rack-o runs away the second I start teeing off on him??
or when then are no weaklings on board
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Exactly.
September 8th, 2009 at 9:32 pm
I just don’t understand teams willing to gamble on a draft prospect over a proven veteran. There is no way in heck I prefer a DL from the past draft over Seymour.
I’m already on board with packaging next year’s #1 for a top 5 LB. I wonder if Billy boy is still up? Mayo for next year’s #1.
September 8th, 2009 at 9:33 pm
Al Davis is smarter than he is given credit for.
He prefers to re-load rather than re-build. But unfortunately that didn’t fall his way in the last 6 years so he is going with the tried and true with high draft picks and now key acquisitions.
The pieces are in place for another serious run. We are not the Bengals or Lions, just watch and see.
September 8th, 2009 at 9:34 pm
Blast Kelly and Warren and Scott! Davis’ pride and joy I’m sure!
September 8th, 2009 at 9:35 pm
jhill Says:
September 8th, 2009 at 9:32 pm
I just don’t understand teams willing to gamble on a draft prospect over a proven veteran. There is no way in heck I prefer a DL from the past draft over Seymour.
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that’s why you don’t see the #1 pick being traded or an opportunity to trade down come up too often.
September 8th, 2009 at 9:35 pm
Jerry has better things to do than spend time on his own blog? This is his job, he has nothing else to do.
It’s no coinkydink that all the stuff we post in here ends up in his blog.
September 8th, 2009 at 9:36 pm
Taylor Mays from USC with our no#1 pick next yr!!!!!!
YEAHHHH BABY!!!!
September 8th, 2009 at 9:36 pm
Maybe not Kelly, there are some flashes of talent here and there.
September 8th, 2009 at 9:38 pm
Now that’s what I keep talking about Jhill #301
All this he said she said and who shot john doesn’t mean squat. That $250K means a lot an his wife and kids will talk some sense into him. Money is the ultimate motivator.
Just you watch!!
September 8th, 2009 at 9:38 pm
Kelly has the injury card to play for the past…but not anymore!
Time to Raider-up Tommy!!
September 8th, 2009 at 9:38 pm
Jhill, that’s the difference in GM’s. Some are willing to trade prospects for proven players, some aren’t. In football you HAVE to build thru the draft. Once you need a piece or two, you can trade or go the FA route. The knock on Seymour is he is running out of gas quickly. He does have quite a bit of mileage on him, I thought Ty Warren might have been a better choice, but obviously Seymour wanted ANOTHER big payday, and Belichik shipped him out for that reason. He is a very very very good player. Once he arrives, everyone should be better on that defense! The SECONDARY is going to be MUCH better having Seymour. The question is what kind of leadership skills does he bring to a team SORELY needing leaders??
September 8th, 2009 at 9:41 pm
eric berry is better than taylor mays!
September 8th, 2009 at 9:43 pm
the raiders will have the #1 pick in 2011 don’t understand why that foolish old man gave it up!
September 8th, 2009 at 9:43 pm
Oakglenn…
Seymour regardless of degradation in any of his skills or leadership is an upgrade over what he currently have.
He can only improve our team.
September 8th, 2009 at 9:44 pm
90210……
What have you been smoking dude!!
No way berry’s better than Taylor Mays….
Thats STUPID!!
September 8th, 2009 at 9:44 pm
I don’t think Shaq is going all out vs. De la Hoya. I don’t think De la Hoya could hurt him.
September 8th, 2009 at 9:46 pm
Taylor Mays will be a Top 5 pick!!
September 8th, 2009 at 9:48 pm
Taylor Mays is overrated!!
September 8th, 2009 at 9:48 pm
He would have been top 10 this yr!!
September 8th, 2009 at 9:48 pm
All these haters on this board (we know who they are) are just envious of the fact that the owner of our team is never afraid to go out and make moves to try to improve the Raiders.
Sometimes you are the windshield, sometimes you’re the bug….
But he keeps on trying and we keep on cheering…and MR still doesn’t get laid, nobody can fix that.
Go Al….Go Raiders….Go Raider Nation!
September 8th, 2009 at 9:49 pm
Bro you Sound STUPID!!
USC hater!! huh??
September 8th, 2009 at 9:49 pm
I understand!!
September 8th, 2009 at 9:49 pm
anywayz, I wanty our #1 pick back!!!!!!
September 8th, 2009 at 9:50 pm
your b e a t c h don’t think so!
September 8th, 2009 at 9:51 pm
Taylor Mays is OVERRATED!!!!!!!
September 8th, 2009 at 9:51 pm
I said it again u clown!
September 8th, 2009 at 9:52 pm
post #310 makes a lot of sense, I had never really thought of that but you can see where it just dosn’t make sense for someone to take up that much time in here. Even when it was next to impossible to post in here he never had a problem.
September 8th, 2009 at 9:52 pm
Wow!!
You dont know SHEET!! About football!!
Whatta MORON!!
September 8th, 2009 at 9:53 pm
Berry will be a middle to late first round pick!! Taylor Mays top 10 pick…..
September 8th, 2009 at 9:54 pm
Random drug tester r u on the old goats pay roll? If not shut the f up, u know that was a foolish move, accept the facts!!
September 8th, 2009 at 9:55 pm
Seymour butt cheeks don’t report, obviously u don’t want to be here and i don’t want u here!
September 8th, 2009 at 9:56 pm
we need gamers here, not idiots like this!
September 8th, 2009 at 9:59 pm
Well 90210..
I agree with that..
I for one say F’ Seymour!!
September 8th, 2009 at 10:02 pm
I wanna see some fire from laid back Russell. Its nice that he’s cool on the field for the most part, but kick them muthers in the azz!
YOU are being paid to LEAD it!
YOU control their wether they have a job or not!
YOU have the skills to look off a safety and sense the pocket.
USE THEM Russell!!!
September 8th, 2009 at 10:02 pm
this little cry baby is not happy, well F U i want my pick back! so davis go get it back since u offered it to that piece of crap team!
September 8th, 2009 at 10:03 pm
Shaq is hella funny man.
September 8th, 2009 at 10:04 pm
I understand building through the draft Oak. 2nd and 3rd round in particular. Put me in the camp that would be willing to trade my 1st rd pick every year, for the right player of course.
September 8th, 2009 at 10:05 pm
I hate to sound like a hater Nmandi21 but REALLY, I’m not. Russell is not good for Oakland , he needs a decipline and he is not going to find it here!
September 8th, 2009 at 10:05 pm
The guy that kinda gets forgotten in all of this is Greg Ellis. Ellis and Seymour are a very nice set of bookends.
September 8th, 2009 at 10:07 pm
For you optimists regarding this deal: How long would it usually take to iron out such small contractual disputes you guys have attributed Seymour’s absence to? One day? Two days? This isn’t a case of a first round rookie holding out. We’re talking about someone already under contract. How much can there be to discuss?
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His agent is Eugene Parker. the same guy representing that other a-hole, Michael Crabtree, who had the nerve to hold out and not run a 40 at the combine.
Nuff said. Davis has been down this road before.
September 8th, 2009 at 10:08 pm
We should of went with Calvin Johnson instead of Russell! We could of waited for a qb!
September 8th, 2009 at 10:09 pm
We should of went with Calvin Johnson instead of Russell! We could of waited for a qb!
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We would have. Kiffin wanted Calvin Johnson or Brady Quinn, not Russell. And he wanted Jeff Garcia and Trent Edwards before that.
September 8th, 2009 at 10:10 pm
Ryan, Flacco, Sanchez, Stafford, any of them is better than what we got!
September 8th, 2009 at 10:10 pm
Yeah Ellis & Seymour would provide a big professionalism upgrade.
I don’t think Kelly, Sands, Warren, were a hardworking group.
September 8th, 2009 at 10:11 pm
who cares if one throws the ball 80yds on 1 knee, the game needs to be played with a inteligent qb!
September 8th, 2009 at 10:12 pm
Ryan, Flacco, Sanchez, Stafford, any of them is better than what we got!
Flacco has a near perennial top 5 defense with the best FS in football…Sanchez has the former Baltimore d-coordinator…and Ryan had a front office with Dimitroff (who came from the Pats), and a good go-to receiver with Roddy White.
It takes more than just the QB. It takes talent around him, and a decent front office. The days of the “messiah” QB are over with.
September 8th, 2009 at 10:13 pm
well if we have gotten johnson, mcfadden and pick up some real free agents maybe we would not be bad off with a Ryan, Sanchez or a Flacco!
September 8th, 2009 at 10:13 pm
What shocks me is that this team, so devoid of actual talent, has to fukin massage the salary cap in order to accommodate Seymour…how much are we paying these current douchebag players (and probably some former douchebag players too)?????
Unreal…no wonder Al has to sell off more of the team…
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Dakota, keep in mind the continual top 7 picks…Michael Huff, had to pay him, JaMarcus Russell, had to pay him, DMC, had to pay him…then bonus money to past FA busts Dominic Rhodes, Gibril Wilson, Kwame Harris, DeAngelo Hall, etc.
Davis has to build a better foundation of draft picks as a bridge to get a signed player like Seymour some help.
September 8th, 2009 at 10:14 pm
“Organizations Win Super Bowls”
-Al Davis
September 8th, 2009 at 10:14 pm
ihope this no show is long term contract espn is dogging the raiders big time and since i live in bristol ct i would ove nothing better than these pricks eating there words
September 8th, 2009 at 10:19 pm
Thanks Raiderwoj, thats what I thought the deal was. But Ive read reports that the trade has already gone through, the transaction was listed on nfl.com, Seymour is on the roster at the Raiders website, Belichick himself said they no longer had the rights to him. I havent read anything yet about him taking a physical. I wonder if Al would hang onto his rights even if he refused to report or take a physical, sadly I think he would. After all he did talk Javon Walker out of retirement when he even offered to give his bonus back. Think Al wishes he had that 11 million now? But yeah, like I said Al is Al, for better or worse. He always gets his guy. I just have a bad feeling about this one.
no, dont worry…Davis could hang on to his rights and trade him again for picks. Somebody with a lot of cap space like Arizona or Cincinnati – maybe get the no. 4 overall and another top five pick, end up with Taylor Mays, and Nebraska DT Ndamukong Suh and save money. Davis wont want to go there, but he’d still have options.
September 8th, 2009 at 10:21 pm
I am tired of these guys who haven’t done anything for the Raiders asking for millions of dollars. Lets go back to picking up deralicts and rejects and kick the s h i t out of everyone. S c r e w these over payed fat boys who have no motivation, or skill for that matter. Send Seymour back to f u k i n New England and get some coaching along the line. You can’t buy champions they have to be made. Get some players who are dedicated to the Raider tradition and dump these high-price over payed scammers.
September 8th, 2009 at 10:22 pm
I’m OUT
September 8th, 2009 at 10:50 pm
Al Davis is not one to be rushed.
September 8th, 2009 at 11:04 pm
I said when the news of the trade broke that when this guy goes Warren Sapp on us, all of this blind praise will turn into insults and contempt. I thought this would happen later in the season. Never realized it would happen two days later.
September 8th, 2009 at 11:06 pm
Oakglenn Says:
September 8th, 2009 at 9:02 pm
“Seymour is a Classic Al kind of guy: 3 time world champion, 5 time pro bowler…”
……
…already wants out
September 8th, 2009 at 11:08 pm
KoolKell Says:
September 8th, 2009 at 10:14 pm
“Organizations Win Super Bowls”
-Al Davis
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Well then.
that explains the Raiders not winning one since..oh…back before these little round discs called “CD’s” were invented..with some guy named Reagan in the Oval Office.
September 8th, 2009 at 11:22 pm
Ricochet, Kell’s mocking the quote. Al’s obviously trying to do it all himself and Kell’s calling on Al to follow his own fuqqin slogans for a change.
September 8th, 2009 at 11:42 pm
How the hell are we so financially out of whack that this is creating an issue(signing Seymour to a long term deal)?
Because uncle al has created so much of an atmosphere of a money grab in Oakland,see Tommy Kelly,Javon Walker,DeAngelo Hall,etc.,that Seymour looks at our organization as his last chance to cash in instead of somewhere to play and be a part of a team. SO that the ONLY thing that matters is to any decent player coming to Oakland is the bottom line.
September 9th, 2009 at 12:08 am
relax everyone.Seymour will get here.he doesn’t want to miss out on a game check.then you can all find something else to biotch and moan about.
September 9th, 2009 at 12:24 am
DEE-why do you hate him?he is/was going to be a FA after this year.he has to relocate his family from 1 side of the country to the other.instead of waiting until after the season to get a long term deal,he wants one now.can’t blame him for that.at least that is what i believe is happening.besides,as long as he gets here in time to play Mon. night,what difference does it make?
September 9th, 2009 at 12:26 am
I hate to agree with that little turd Lefty12 but he is right:
“Relax everyone.Seymour will get here.he doesn’t want to miss out on a game check”
September 9th, 2009 at 12:29 am
I think he is just trying to get paid one report says wanted to spend labor day with family before packing up and going another says working on 3 year deal who knows what is happing i just hope he comes Ellis.Warren,Kelly,Seymore i can live with that if they dont perform theres other issues that is as good nfl d line on paper.
September 9th, 2009 at 12:35 am
Lets all agree this is a good deal Burgess out for two picks 3&5 RD Seymore in for 1 RD in 2011 we actually gain a pick and a younger player with more pro bowls Burgess was also healty all the time?
September 9th, 2009 at 12:36 am
Damn…the highest paid player, in the NFL, in ‘06?
Yep, Seymour.
Base salary? $585.000
Total? OVER $24,000,000…damn.
TOP 10 SALARIES
Player Team Total ‘06 compensation
Richard Seymour New England $24,691,160
Drew Brees New Orleans $22,000,000
Bryant McKinnie Minnesota $17,500,000
Steve Hutchinson Minnesota $16,588,080
Jeff Backus Detroit $16,252,310
Tom Brady New England $16,004,840
Carson Palmer Cincinnati $15,750,000
John Abraham Atlanta $15,503,300
Shaun Alexander Seattle $15,125,000
Reggie Wayne Indianapolis $15,100,440
Rankings based on base salary, signing bonus and other bonuses awarded in 2006. Go here for the complete salary database
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And he NOW expects a big payday?
WHAT THE HELL DOES HE CONSIDER 24 MIL IN A YEAR? Chicken feed?
September 9th, 2009 at 12:39 am
Hey we dont even have a guy on this list what the…
September 9th, 2009 at 12:42 am
just reporting what they said
September 9th, 2009 at 12:43 am
While some of you might be right, in that he won’t want to “miss a paycheck”..something tells me that when you make 24 million PLUS in just one year? That missing 1/17th of 3.5 mil isn’t going to bother him..all that much.
May still show, but certainly not because he’s worrying about making his car payment.
September 9th, 2009 at 12:45 am
Getting to a J russ comment someone was comparing Flacco & Ryan I was reading ESPN mag and it had JRuss as the most underrated QB inthe leauge it compared his stats i beleve last 8 games and he outperformed on all catagories
September 9th, 2009 at 12:48 am
Omni, if Seymour really is just spending the holiday with his family, Davis should nullify the trade. He’s an NFL football player not a bus driver. He also has a game coming up in less than a week and he still has to learn a new scheme. This would be the biggest fuq you to the Raiders this side of Patrick Bates.
September 9th, 2009 at 12:50 am
Too Short’s on that greg poppa show. Chronicle Live? He’s writing a book. Needs to put out another album.
September 9th, 2009 at 12:50 am
Bates.. my point exactly do we really need a 1st rouder in 2011
September 9th, 2009 at 12:51 am
Break it down by year?
Seymour’s value may better be considered by looking at the average per year value of his deal: $9.33 million.
September 9th, 2009 at 12:56 am
I just hope he is here before Monday night to crush Rivers
September 9th, 2009 at 1:11 am
For what its worth…
http://www.raidernationstation.com/exclusives
“Completely unsubstatntiated sources claim Seymour will be on a plane heading for the bay on Thursday.”
LOL!
Tell it like it is Marge…
September 9th, 2009 at 1:27 am
Cable said “he spoke to Seymour earlier this week and that the defensive lineman told him he wants to play in Oakland”.–Bill Williamson.
It’s all about the contract.
Al’s in a spot because of those presents he handed out last year to folks like Hall, Kelly, etc.
Seymour’s sitting there thinking, if Kelly’s worth 50 million then I must be worth Al’s first born child.
Again, while I see how Seymour will definitely help this year, I have to wonder about it being along-term mistake-especially when we know we could have had Raji.
Seymour’s a great player. The guy’s has five pro-bowls in nine years.
He also has back and knee problems, is 30 this year, and in the last year of his contract.
That first pick in 2011 also bothers me.
That said, he’s going to be a great asset this year and for Al the future is now.
September 9th, 2009 at 1:37 am
“Completely unsubstatntiated sources claim Seymour will be on a plane heading for the bay on Thursday.”
…….
lol. That RaiderNationstation dude is out of control.
September 9th, 2009 at 1:52 am
Jerry:
Really liked that article on this page:
“Past Coaches Show Cable Way to Raiders Excellence”.
Nice stuff.
Gruden, Madden and Flores commentating on Cable and the Raiders.
I especially liked Flores comments on KIffin, but then as far as I’m concerned Tom Flores, with his two super bowls, can say anything he likes.
September 9th, 2009 at 2:43 am
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
September 9th, 2009 at 1:37 am
“Completely unsubstatntiated sources claim Seymour will be on a plane heading for the bay on Thursday.”
…….
lol. That RaiderNationstation dude is out of control.
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I know! lol! At least they’re bein’ honest!
Hope he is here by Thursday!!!
September 9th, 2009 at 3:23 am
A little after 11 here in England,back on site hoping that the Seymour trade would be done and dusted….but nope,nada,nothing,and now I’m reading that all 3 parties are giving us the “I don’t have anymore info,no comment” sh!te.
This is becoming a farce.
September 9th, 2009 at 3:25 am
……and just to rub a little more salt into the wound.I’ve found out this morning that SKY have no Raider games on the box for the month of September.
…..sucks.
September 9th, 2009 at 3:27 am
Hope there’s good news….later.
September 9th, 2009 at 4:33 am
On the issue of Sky Broadcasting-are we getting Monday night games at all?
September 9th, 2009 at 5:00 am
you guys, still think its a great trade???
we sure can get into the papers with our trades, thats for sure… if that what you want…
September 9th, 2009 at 5:00 am
great way to show what a pariah we are, huh?
September 9th, 2009 at 5:01 am
my feeling is that if Seymour does not report in time to be able to participate in Monday night’s game…
call off the deal…
we don’t need him… not after Monday night we won’t…
Maddenraider was right that one time… an opening day loss is huge…
the Raiders need to set the tone on Monday night… getting run on all game is not the tone we need…
in my opinion, we need to show up, play well, stop the run… we need to be respectable right out of the gate…
the psychological defeat in our players minds will be much greater than the defeat itself…
like i said, Seymour doesn’t play Monday night… deal’s off… we don’t need him…
September 9th, 2009 at 5:02 am
yeah he can stop the run, but for ONE year.. for a 1st round pick, LOL, oh yeah we can tag him, that means we could get him here for TWO years, for a 1st round pick AND 14M….Nice job Al….nice job
September 9th, 2009 at 5:04 am
I said a couple of days ago I would’ve kept the pick. We should be building for the future using the draft and let these young guys grow together. We’ve stunk for so long that a couple more seasons wont bother me. I understand Seymour upgrades right now but we’re not a play-off team and by the time we are Seymour will prob be gone anyway. He’s a great player no doubt and of course I’ll be pleased if he suits up but I wouldn’t have made the trade. Not negativity, just my opinion.
September 9th, 2009 at 5:04 am
personally, i would tell Seymour’s agent that if he isn’t here by close of business today…
one of two things will happen…
he doesn’t report at all and the deal is off… he will be registered as AWOL… and he loses this season and we still own him, since time tolls in situations like this…
if he does report… but too late for Monday night’s game… he will fail the physical… and he will have to deal with the issues resulting from that…
bottom line… get here now… or piss off…
September 9th, 2009 at 5:16 am
I got a feeling he’ll be here today but I’m getting tired of this circus. I can take the loosing seasons, the coaching turmoil, etc, but we just dont help ourselves. They were laughing at us on NFL total access again, and these kinda issues dont help. You can see why Seymour’s not to keen to come to Oakland.
September 9th, 2009 at 5:16 am
I can’t believe that we enter into a major trade, with a high price tag (2011 1st) without obviously doing any research into the demands/motivation of the player. Any due-diligence would have shown that Seymour would not be keen on the move and would want up-front assurances about tagging and contracts. Why do we continually make ourselves the laughing stock of the NFL?
Answer, because Al is too old and stubborn to care and because nobody has the guts to tell him to stand aside.
We have got to get more professional. This is 2009, not 1967.
September 9th, 2009 at 5:18 am
any here that still has a spot for a Fantasy league… I missed the ones mentioned here because i was on vacation..
September 9th, 2009 at 5:23 am
Apparantly, according to PFT and others, Seymour is demanding an assurance that he won’t be tagged at the end of this season. Is he stupid? No, he knows the Raiders can’t agree to that. I wonder if he is now trying to void the trade.
What a mess.
September 9th, 2009 at 5:32 am
Carefull Scottish, someone might call you a hater! Most of us know where the problem lies, I agree.
Dont get me wrong, I can see the logic behind the move but we’ll maybe get a couple more wins with Seymour than without him. Is that reason enough to throw away a cheap first pick? And by 2011 that pick will cost a lot less than DMC, J-Russ, or even HUff.
September 9th, 2009 at 5:35 am
Morning Nation!!!!
Pay the man already lets win some ballgames!!!
September 9th, 2009 at 5:40 am
Good Morning NATION!!!
September 9th, 2009 at 5:52 am
Good Morning Nation!!!
This Seymour thing is becoming a mess! I understand about moving the kids across country…but this is the profession he chose. Come on now…
September 9th, 2009 at 6:00 am
Florida Pete Says:
September 9th, 2009 at 5:04 am
personally, i would tell Seymour’s agent that if he isn’t here by close of business today…
one of two things will happen…
he doesn’t report at all and the deal is off… he will be registered as AWOL… and he loses this season and we still own him, since time tolls in situations like this…
if he does report… but too late for Monday night’s game… he will fail the physical… and he will have to deal with the issues resulting from that…
bottom line… get here now… or piss off…
Good post Pete!
September 9th, 2009 at 6:04 am
GOOD MORNING SPORT’S FAN’S.SEYMOUR CHOSE TO WALK / HITCH-HIKE FROM NEW ENGLAND TO CALIFORNIA,SHOULD BE HERE NEXT SPRING…
September 9th, 2009 at 6:12 am
Like Bruce Banner from the 70’s Incredible Hulk series? (que in the piano….)
Thanks for the morning laugh!!!
September 9th, 2009 at 6:22 am
Tend to agree with Pete/MaddenRaider ….if we lose the SD game, the season is pretty much over, especially if we get blown out. All our players will quit. So if RS doesn’t play in that game, screw him, we don’t need him. The only reason to have him is that he fills a need NOW. Otherwise let’s just get young guys for the FUTCHA.
September 9th, 2009 at 6:23 am
….Da gratenis of da Raiduhs is in da futcha baby.
September 9th, 2009 at 6:31 am
Mornin’ hwnrdr,DIRT-LOT,Copen,
Thought you might like this:
Attorney Alan S. Gutman said in a statement that Merriman’s public comments that he was trying to protect Tequila, who he thought was drunk, amount to another attack on his client.
“Shawne Merriman and his advisors have decided that the best defense is a good offense, attacking Tila Tequila in the press with a lot of calculated spin to cover up his illegal and indefensible actions,” Gutman’s statement read.
However, society won’t tolerate a physical assaulting on a young woman who weighs 93 pounds by an All-Pro linebacker who weighs 270 pounds, he said.
Merriman was arrested early Sunday after Tequila accused him of choking and throwing her while she was at his suburban San Diego home. Tequila signed a citizen’s arrest warrant accusing Merriman of battery and false imprisonment. Both are felonies.
Tequila, whose real name is Tila Nguyen, is best known for “A Shot at Love with Tila Tequila,” which ran for two seasons on MTV. The bisexual dating show featured men and women vying for Tequila’s affections. She has also modeled for Playboy and other men’s magazines.
Prosecutors will have to decide whether to press charges, and Merriman and his attorney, Todd Macaluso, have said they expect him to be vindicated. Macaluso did not immediately return an e-mail message seeking comment Tuesday night.
Merriman issued a statement Sunday denying wrongdoing and saying he was trying to keep Tequila from leaving his home because she appeared to be intoxicated.
“I in no way caused any harm to Ms. Nguyen, however, paramedics were called and she was examined but no injuries were reported,” Merriman’s statement read.
Merriman is one of the NFL’s hardest-hitting players and is nicknamed “Lights Out” for his savage hits.
The three-time Pro Bowl selection has been getting back into shape after having season-ending knee surgery following the 2008 opener.
“It is never justifiable to brutally assault, choke, strike and imprison a woman,” Gutman wrote in the statement. “Once the truth is fully revealed, Mr. Merriman’s fantastic story of how he was trying to keep Ms. Tequila safe will be completely discredited.”
September 9th, 2009 at 6:36 am
‘Roid rage…I read that over the weekend and I was like, “WTF”? But, oh well…we all know dam well that if it was a Raider player, he would have been prosecuted and charged on the spot!
September 9th, 2009 at 6:40 am
Merriroid will probably get 5 sacks against the Raiders on MNF and then be found guilty and suspended the rest of the NFL season
thats our bad luck …
September 9th, 2009 at 6:43 am
Raiders can’t void the trade. Seymour will play for us or nobody. We can save the 3.7 million if he never shows, but we can’t recoup the 1st round pick
September 9th, 2009 at 6:43 am
I heard from someone (who apparently watched her stupid show) say she’s allergic to alcohol so Merryman’s story is ridiculous. I thought it was a party with a lot of witnesses??!?!?1
September 9th, 2009 at 6:43 am
cut Todd Watkins, sign Langston Walker!
September 9th, 2009 at 6:46 am
Merriman will play against us BUT so will Seymour. I think it will be a very competitive game. We got shut down corners and now we need a good Dlineman that will make Kelly and Morrison look alot better than they really are.
Al always gets the guy he wants and will always overpay for him. People doubted if he can get Nnamdi and Shane under the cap and he got both. Any real Raider fans would know that.
September 9th, 2009 at 6:47 am
Good Morning Rockstar…you’re probably right about Merriman getting 5 sacks. That would be our luck!
September 9th, 2009 at 6:47 am
wow. today is 09/09/09
just noticed that
September 9th, 2009 at 6:48 am
PUT HIM (MERRIMAN) IN A PADDED ROOM WITH A WRAP AROUND WHITE JACKET,CUT OFF HIS ‘ROID’S .
September 9th, 2009 at 6:49 am
Kirk & Nnamdi are both playing hurt
this defense needs Richard Seymour, especially for Week 1
September 9th, 2009 at 6:50 am
fairyman will prob get zero sacks and be taken off the field fror re-injuring his knee. Then he is found convicted of unlawful detainment, and felony assault.
He is then tradde to the oakland raiders for a 1st and 2nd 2010…
September 9th, 2009 at 6:53 am
no way Thec. we’ll just sign him as a UFA next year for 6 years, 75 million
September 9th, 2009 at 6:54 am
Langston Walker is a bum.
September 9th, 2009 at 6:57 am
Cornell Green is a bigger bum
September 9th, 2009 at 7:00 am
Nah, if Merrimen doesn’t get suspended by the league, he will stay in SD. I don’t think that the Spano family lets him come here!
September 9th, 2009 at 7:07 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
September 9th, 2009 at 6:47 am
wow. today is 09/09/09
just noticed that
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My wife’s bday, as a matter of fact. I think I’ll give her all nine tonight…
September 9th, 2009 at 7:08 am
The average career of a NFL player is about four years. Assuming we are able to sign Seymour to a three or four year extension, it just means that we’ve gotten our 2011 first-rounder early, he’s ready to play with no learning curve, and he’s a legitimate, known-quality great player that helps us immediately at a position of desperate need.
We do not have the same assurance from a college player that will be drafted in 2011. The only guaranteed thing they have in common is that we would have to give the college kid a lot of money. (I’ll believe the rookie cap when I see it.)
September 9th, 2009 at 7:08 am
Good Morning Nation.
- stop with all that Raji Crap, he is not doing anything for GB.
- if Seymour doesn’t want to be here, then Get another player.
September 9th, 2009 at 7:10 am
L Walker can’t be worse than Green, and cut Watkins!!!
September 9th, 2009 at 7:11 am
[...] Late AFC West news and notes Posted by ESPN.com’s Bill Williamson Oakland coach Tom Cable hinted that the Raiders may be talking to Richard Seymour about a contract extension. It may be the team’s [...]
September 9th, 2009 at 7:25 am
Cut Watkins!
Cut Green!
Cut Fargas!!
Cut Sam Williams!
Sign L Walker!
Sign B Pollard!
Sign Marcus Freeman, or B Bell!
Sign another DT!!!
September 9th, 2009 at 7:26 am
I think I’ll give her all nine tonight
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thats a lot of fingers in the babymaker BSJ …
whats in it for you?
September 9th, 2009 at 7:29 am
I’d be excited if we cut Fargas and signed Bernard Pollard.
likewise if we cut Pears and signed Langston Walker.
September 9th, 2009 at 7:31 am
BSJ: give her the millimeter peter!
September 9th, 2009 at 7:35 am
Seymour will be here as soon as a multi year deal can be worked out. This is the one thing Al does well. He will get the guy he wants. Now we need to work on the offensive line.
September 9th, 2009 at 7:40 am
Hey oaklifer & raiderrockstar just signed in 2 say goodmorning
September 9th, 2009 at 7:41 am
Can we please Cut Sam Williams, and sign a Rookie LB like Freeman, or someone like B Bell who is a true MLB. Please!!!!!
September 9th, 2009 at 7:48 am
LMAO @ 450!!!!
September 9th, 2009 at 7:49 am
Langston Walker is a prototype NON-ZBS tackle. In my recollection he is 6′ 8″ and 335 or more, and he is not very mobile. On all of our spread run plays he would have the other linemen running up his back. Remember how we laughed when the Bills signed him? He was a (huge) sieve for us until then.
However, he does sound like just the type to help us at defensive tackle…
September 9th, 2009 at 7:50 am
What’s happenin’ Am Crew?
How about that follow up post that Jerry did, huh?
Seymour at this point is making sure he’s got life insurance straight and trying to find a way that leaves no trace. ‘I mean, the Raiders? Yuck, Al Davis? Oh my God, that guy’s gonna pay me way too much money. The Raider Nation? Man, why would I want a whole new rabbid, loyal fanbase to cheer my name and revitalize their team? I wonder if it’s too late for Bill to send me to the Lions instead.’
By the way,
RaiderRockstar Says:
September 9th, 2009 at 7:26 am
I think I’ll give her all nine tonight
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thats a lot of fingers in the babymaker BSJ …
whats in it for you?
LMFAO!
September 9th, 2009 at 7:53 am
I don’t want Seymour here, he is 30, and this will be his last contract!
I want a player who is 25-27 years old, and not 30!
I still like the move becuuase we need help on the Dline, it’s a 2011 pick, and he can still give us a few good years.
September 9th, 2009 at 7:54 am
good morning Trey!
whats up man?
per your recommendation, I got AP on my fantasy football team …
September 9th, 2009 at 7:56 am
I would start Pears over Green!!!
Cut Green!!!!
September 9th, 2009 at 7:56 am
whats in it for you?
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yes, whats in it is me.
September 9th, 2009 at 7:58 am
Is Seymour in the house yet?
September 9th, 2009 at 7:59 am
Dwight Dixon, the guy shot with one of Marvin Harrison’s guns last year, died of gun shot wounds sustained in July of this year. Dixon alleged it was retribution from Harrison for a lawsuit against him because of the first shooting.
Wow. I guess keeping your mouth shut for a decade gets people thinking you’re some stand-up guy.
After something like that, Chad OchoLoco doesn’t seem so bad, huh?
Tragic.
September 9th, 2009 at 7:59 am
Raider O, you don’t want Seymour here but you like the move?
How odd to be bi-polar when your heritage is the equator..
September 9th, 2009 at 8:00 am
If Seymour doesn’t report and we still lose our 1st round pick, someone in the Raider’s organization will need to be executed.
September 9th, 2009 at 8:00 am
http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2009/09/the-gop-vs-fiscal-conservatism.html
September 9th, 2009 at 8:01 am
Kelly, Warren, Seymour & Bryant will make a nice DT rotation.
Ellis, Shaughnessy, Seymour & Richardson will make a nice group of base ends.
Trevor Scott being the situational pass rusher ala Chris Clemons in 2007
I hope Capt Kirk plays fearless against Sandy Eggo. I know he’s playing hurt, but your MLB better be able to read the offense and smash a RB behind the line of scrimmage, can’t rely on the safeties for run support (again). I can just see Tyvon Branch getting run over by Tomlinson with a full head of steam and Raider fans everywhere calling for DC Marshall to bench him in favor of rookie Mike Mitchell
September 9th, 2009 at 8:01 am
What’s the word on Seymour in town yet and no bs I hear he is on a flight or he is getting his family set , season is less than a week away he must want a new contract for sure.
September 9th, 2009 at 8:02 am
I just heard we were trying to get wilfork back in april while we were first trying to trade burgess but the pats didn’t want to give him up so I guess that’s why we didn’t get seymour until now because al and belichick couldn’t agree on which player and how much he was worth
September 9th, 2009 at 8:06 am
BSJ: Langston Walker played at Cal under new Raiders offensive line coach Jim Michalczik.
he’s not a system fit?
by the way, he left in FA. we didn’t cut him
September 9th, 2009 at 8:09 am
BSJ,
lol
I’m not Bi-polar, but I do have OCD!!
CUT S WILLIAMS!!
Cut GREEN!!
Cut Watkins!!
September 9th, 2009 at 8:10 am
Nick Miller = Chris Carr
bring back Justin Miller!
I don’t care if he’s the 4th or 5th CB, Nick Miller is the 6th or 7th WR …
September 9th, 2009 at 8:11 am
The players have Wednesday off. If Seymour isn’t here by Thursday night’s practice at The Coliseum, this will go from a nuisance to a pounding headache. As simple as the Raiders defense is, it’ll take more than one Friday practice to get Seymour ready.
-David White (SF Gate)
September 9th, 2009 at 8:13 am
Lizard King,
L Walker is a bust, Buffalo is in worse shape than us. They fired their O coord. a week before the season. It couldn’t be worse for them if their coach punched the owners wife!!!
2nd try; are we back to posting too fast again???!?!?!?
3rd try
4th try
5th try
6th try
September 9th, 2009 at 8:14 am
I see Branch as another FS ( he played CB at UConn), and I wonder: why the …. Is this guy playing SS in FS???!!!! We are doing the same thing we did with Huff!!!!!!!!!!!
Uuuuuuurrrrrfffrfffhgggggg
Play him at FS!!!
If Mitchell is not ready to start, I don’t think he is, then sign Pollard and let him play SS & Branch at FS.
September 9th, 2009 at 8:15 am
Raider O Says:
September 9th, 2009 at 8:09 am
BSJ,
lol
I’m not Bi-polar, but I do have OCD!!
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hahahah, Dakota tried to say I have OCD because I repeated a post from 2 weeks ago. I don’t think he knows what it means.
September 9th, 2009 at 8:17 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
September 9th, 2009 at 8:06 am
BSJ: Langston Walker played at Cal under new Raiders offensive line coach Jim Michalczik.
he’s not a system fit?
by the way, he left in FA. we didn’t cut him
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I realize he left in FA, and we all roared at how the Bills overpaid for a guy we didn’t want to keep because we WERE SWITCHING TO A ZBS.
I don’t believe Michalczik was running Cable’s ZBS at Cal with Walker back then.
If we bring in Langston, even for a tryout, I will admit to being wrong…but if we are clearly needing more depth at RT and we still don’t look at him, then Cable and Michalczik must feel he is not a fit.
Moreover, you watched Walker here RRS. Did he look at all mobile to you? Did he protect Andrew very well?
September 9th, 2009 at 8:19 am
Langston Walker is who we thought he was…end of story
I am just hoping that:
a. Roy Scheuning can replace Carlisle this season
b. Khalif Barnes is willing to play RT
c. Richard Seymour signs a 3-year deal with Al,TONIGHT
d. Satele figures out the line calls so he can start
e. Schilens comes back quickly and at 100%
f. McFadden starts
g. Crabtree delivers on his promise to sit-out 2009
September 9th, 2009 at 8:21 am
TW,
Damn Reps, they like to call everyone (who doesn’t agree with them or their views) Crazy!!!!
Cut Green!!!
Cut Williams!!!
Who has OCD?!
Sign Pollard!!!
September 9th, 2009 at 8:21 am
Danny Southwick’s twitter page:
http://twitter.com/TheWick
September 9th, 2009 at 8:26 am
they like to call everyone (who doesn’t agree with them or their views) Crazy!!!!
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throwing rocks in a glass house?
September 9th, 2009 at 8:33 am
Moreover, you watched Walker here RRS. Did he look at all mobile to you? Did he protect Andrew very well?
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typical democrat. none of the brains, all of the attitude
Cornell Green: started last 2 years at RT – 26 starts, 2 holding calls, 14 false starts, 14.5 sacks allowed
Langston Walker: started last 2 years at RT – 32 starts, 4 holding calls, 1 false start, 5 sacks allowed
Walker played in Oakland for 5 years and you’re gonna condemn him based on his 2006 performance alone? what about Gallery & Grove?
September 9th, 2009 at 8:35 am
new post!
September 9th, 2009 at 8:37 am
typical democrat. none of the brains, all of the attitude
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Actually NUG, your side screams about the “elite” meaning those with a good education meanwhile you support the stupidist Prez we’ve ever had!!! AND your side has ALL the attitude! SAY NO TO EVERYTHING, if you can’t win the arguement yell louder & lie!!!
Besides I’m not a Dem but will claim to be liberal.
September 9th, 2009 at 9:18 am
Hey, TrueRaider, where do you get off lecturing people for discussing mogadishu? Unlike your pizzant country, we have freedom of speech here in America. We’ll talk about anything we want to. If you don’t like it get off the board.
September 9th, 2009 at 9:30 am
Guys, I wouldn’t expect too much out of seymour. he hasn’t been the same player after his injury a couple of years ago and his skills have declined drastically from his early years when he was a true beast. Now, he takes plays off all the time and hasn;t shown anything for the last 3 years. Maybe he’ll revive his career out on the west coast but part of BB’s reputation involves knowing when to get rid of used up players, so i wouldn’t count on it.
I can’t believe davis gave us a #1 pick for this guy. Good luck with him.
September 9th, 2009 at 12:06 pm
I agree, all our enemys( most everybody) hate this deal so it’s probley a great trade for the Raiders…… And if the Raiders are able to stop the run then it’s worth it….. Seymour will turn 30 soon and that’s hardly over the hill… He’s good for 3 to 4 years at least… I don’t buy that he’s injury prone either… This is football, Players from all teams get hurt.. Same with Cable punching a coach… You’d be suprised how many teams get into fights between teamates, It’s just because it’s the Raiders that they make a big deal outta it..
September 9th, 2009 at 12:12 pm
Patriotnation… And Burgress hasn’t done anything except whine and sit our games because of injuries…. Did Seymour have 8 sacks last year?… Wait till the jets, miami run at Burgess and you watch him wiff at the runners…. Enjoy Burgess while you can… He’ll be injured by week 4…. Again
September 9th, 2009 at 4:14 pm
Fingers, if there as a point there I didn’t see it. You’re comparing apples and oranges anyhow, the main difference being that we didn’t give up a top 10 draft pick for burgess.
In any case, I hope sey works out for you guys. He once was a dominant player and maybe he’ll regain that form.
I’ve actually always liked the raiders, as long as they’re not playing the pats, so i wish you all success.
October 20th, 2011 at 11:32 pm
diabetes…
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