Seymour cost would be considerable
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Wednesday, September 9th, 2009 at 8:29 am in Oakland Raiders.
It’s a relatively safe assumption that the public silence from from both Richard Seymour and the Raiders is because they’re talking about a contract.
That being the case, Al Davis can expect to write another gigantic check to go along with the sums guaranteed within the past three years to Nnamdi Asomugha, JaMarcus Russell, Darren McFadden, Darrius Heyward-Bey, Tommy Kelly and Shane Lechler. The guaranteed money on those players alone comes to just under $120 million.
Davis also spent $16.5 million for 24 games worth of Gibril Wilson and DeAngelo Hall and $12 million last season alone on Javon Walker.
Those, as well as other industry standards, are the figures agent Eugene Parker will be looking at, and not the Forbes magazine study which says the Raiders are the 32nd ranked franchise in terms of value.
Within the past offseason, Asomugha became the NFL’s highest paid cornerback (three years, $45.3 million, $28.5 guaranteed). Lechler became the highest paid punter (four years, $16 million, $9 million guaranteed) and Isaiah Ekejiuba the highest paid non-kicker who plays exclusively special teams (three years, $5.4 million, $2.45 million this season).
So it’s clear Davis is willing to pay not only the going rate, but rise above it to reel in a player he truly wants.
It’s safe to assume Parker will point out Seymour is a more decorated defensive lineman than Asomugha is as a cornerback based on five Pro Bowl berths and three Super Bowl rings. The starting point will be to make Seymour the NFL’s highest paid lineman, and he’ll settle for somewhere in the neighborhood.
Defensive tackles Albert Haynesworth received $41.6 million in guaranteed money from the Washington Redskins this past offseason, a deal that maxes at more than $100 million should it be carried to its conclusion (admittedly unlikely). Defensive ends with the most guaranteed money over the past two years were Dwight Freeney of Indianapolis (six years, $72 million, $30 million guaranteed) and Jared Allen of Minnesota (six years, $73 million, $31 million guaranteed).
With the potential of uncapped years starting in 2010 if no collective bargaining agreement is reached, making the numbers work under the cap is an issue for another day (or not at all) beyond this season.
Seymour could agree to take less money on a short-term deal, say two years, if the Raiders promised not to use the franchise tag, although in that case Oakland would be renting a player for two years for the cost of a first-round draft pick.
Or Oakland could simply play hardball and insist he play this year for his $3.7 million or be put on a reserve/left squad list which would make Seymour inactive without pay and push the final year of his contract to next year, starting the process all over again.
The other possibility, depending on the terms of the deal between the teams, is that the whole deal is voided, with Seymour going back to New England to finish his contract.
Note: No practice or media availability scheduled for the Raiders today.
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September 9th, 2009 at 8:29 am
yo
September 9th, 2009 at 8:30 am
He’s worth it.
September 9th, 2009 at 8:33 am
3rd?
September 9th, 2009 at 8:34 am
repost –
Moreover, you watched Walker here RRS. Did he look at all mobile to you? Did he protect Andrew very well?
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Cornell Green: started last 2 years at RT – 26 starts, 2 holding calls, 14 false starts, 14.5 sacks allowed
Langston Walker: started last 2 years at RT – 32 starts, 4 holding calls, 1 false start, 5 sacks allowed
Walker played in Oakland for 5 years and you’re gonna condemn him based on his 2006 performance alone? what about Gallery & Grove?
September 9th, 2009 at 8:34 am
If he doesn’t take Kelly’s number, what numbers are available for Seymour?
September 9th, 2009 at 8:38 am
The other possibility, depending on the terms of the deal between the teams, is that the whole deal is voided, with Seymour going back to New England to finish his contract.
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Adam Schefter says this isn’t an option. Pretty sure he knows more than Jerry …
September 9th, 2009 at 8:39 am
Restructure Tommy Kelly’s contract and give the money to Seymore. Kelly isn’t worth all the cash he got a couple years ago
September 9th, 2009 at 8:41 am
Rockstar if he doesn’t come and pass a physical he goes back to NE we get our pick
September 9th, 2009 at 8:42 am
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September 9th, 2009 at 8:42 am
I just heard we were trying to get wilfork back in april while we were first trying to trade burgess but the pats didn’t want to give him up so I guess that’s why we didn’t get seymour until now because al and belichick couldn’t agree on which player and how much he was worth
September 9th, 2009 at 8:44 am
L Walker is a bust, Buffalo is in worse shape than us.
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TurdWacker: please convince us oh wise one why Cornbread Green is a better option. I already posted the stats above that prove otherwise unless you are blind, retarded or both.
September 9th, 2009 at 8:45 am
It says right here what could happen to seymour http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/m/2009/09/09/belichick-monitoring-bills-not-seymour/
September 9th, 2009 at 8:48 am
Seriously worried about the 09 Raiders after this and the fisticuffs with Hanson -what’s going on with that?
What do people think of Garcia cut? I think Frye and Gradk must have been too good to lose or Garcia was only for the preseason…
September 9th, 2009 at 8:49 am
“Seymour Cost Would be Considerable”
Wow, Jerry. Thanks for the scoop.
September 9th, 2009 at 8:51 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
September 9th, 2009 at 8:34 am
repost –
Moreover, you watched Walker here RRS. Did he look at all mobile to you? Did he protect Andrew very well?
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Cornell Green: started last 2 years at RT – 26 starts, 2 holding calls, 14 false starts, 14.5 sacks allowed
Langston Walker: started last 2 years at RT – 32 starts, 4 holding calls, 1 false start, 5 sacks allowed
Walker played in Oakland for 5 years and you’re gonna condemn him based on his 2006 performance alone? what about Gallery & Grove?
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Not just on his 2006 season, which was abysmal. He has been a turd for the Bills too. $25 million and now cut? Keep this (humongous) disappointment out of Oakland.
September 9th, 2009 at 8:51 am
TW & BSJ are stumped. LOL
they can’t find a way to backup thier comments regarding Green/Walker …
dumb libs!
September 9th, 2009 at 8:55 am
Dumb Libs!!
Crazy Reps!!
Talking Monkeys!!!
I love this blog!!
September 9th, 2009 at 8:57 am
16yearsold16yearfan, here is what that PFT article said:
If Seymour fails to report and take a physical with the Raiders, he likely will remain the property of the Patriots, depending on the specific terms of the trade.
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the key wording there is “depending on the specific terms of the trade” which Shefter claims is all trades are final. there is even an NFL policy thats backs this
If this gets ugly, the league will have to determine whether or not Oakland is entitled to their 2011 1st Round pick should Seymour take the “stay gone” approach. you know how much love Oakland usually gets
September 9th, 2009 at 8:58 am
So based on those numbers, wouldn’t something like a 5 year 50 million dollar deal with 20-25 million guaranteed be enough to get a deal done?
September 9th, 2009 at 8:59 am
Then again, though we know Al doesn’t mind signing big checks, does he have the money to do so without selling another 10 or 15 percent of the franchise like he did a year or two ago?
September 9th, 2009 at 9:03 am
if it Walker’s fault the Bills overpaid him and Dockery in FA? they made the offer. he’d be crazy to turn down that kinda money!
same with Tommy Kelly in Oakland. the blame for that contract is on Al Davis, not TK93
Walker was such a turd for the Bills that they traded Jason Peters to Philly and made him the new LT? Look, Buffalo has 5 new starters on the o-line. They got Terrell Owens this offseason. cut Dominic Rhodes before Marshawn Lynch returns from suspension. fired thier OC last week. they aren’t exactly making sound moves this offseason
Langston is better than Cornell. you can’t dispute the facts. quit trying to polish a turd. Cornbread is not a starting RT in this league
September 9th, 2009 at 9:04 am
Signing Seymour to a large contract is much different than all of the non Raider signings of the past few years.
We have been burned by one season or one game wonders like Brown, Walker, Wilson, Hall, Jordan etc.
We have actually done really well with proven vets like Romo, Woodson, Rice, Hendricks, Haynes etc.
Seymour is clearly a proven high performing vet.
What is perplexing is how things got to this point.
Mr Davis has always paid well and with the exception of JR and Marcus Allen has never let contract impact a valued player playing.
September 9th, 2009 at 9:05 am
Schefter doesn’t know as much as he likes you to think. He’s still under the impression the Raiders are out a draft pick and a player.
Regarding Walker:
Langston Walker is an Oakland native and played for Cal and the Raiders.
He’s been dumped by a team he started every game for the last two years. A team that I believe has 5 new starters on O line.
Al said he wanted some power in the ZBS.
Don’t be surprised if the Raiders kick his tires.
That being said, he’d have to sign a nominal contract, due to the monster one Seymour is about to get.
It may be tough to sign anyone while the Seymour deal is up in the air.
Maybe it will actually post my comment this time.
September 9th, 2009 at 9:07 am
They wont go after Walker if they think Barnes is the answer at RT. Could Walker or Green play RG? Could be a powerful side to run to.
September 9th, 2009 at 9:07 am
No sh;t? It only took me 15 minutes.
September 9th, 2009 at 9:08 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
September 9th, 2009 at 8:38 am
The other possibility, depending on the terms of the deal between the teams, is that the whole deal is voided, with Seymour going back to New England to finish his contract.
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Adam Schefter says this isn’t an option. Pretty sure he knows more than Jerry …
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Why do you assume Schefter knows more than Jerry? Schefter has better inside sources across the league, but Jerry knows more about the Raiders.
And sources isn’t even really the issue.
Schefter’s point makes no sense. He says there was a clause in the Raiders-Pats deal saying if the player doesn’t report the deal is void. He then goes on to say the league position on trades is that all trades, once completed are final. So he said it’s a gray area. But if the league approved the terms of this trade, that means it approved the clause about the deal being void if the player fails to report. If the league tried to say that clause was invalid after already approving the deal, you bet your a$$ Al would fire up the lawsuit machine — and with good cause.
No way do the Raiders not get Seymour AND lose the draft pick. It won’t happen.
I believe Jerry is spot on here. Al and Seymour are working on an extension. It’ll get done soon enough. Hopefully in time for Seymour to practice tomorrow and join the team in time to help out vs. the Chargers.
September 9th, 2009 at 9:09 am
Do you think Seymour will be the base RDE and move inside on passing downs? It was curious they cut Joseph to make a roster spot for him.
September 9th, 2009 at 9:09 am
Have to believe we will be looking at Barnes at RT.
It is one thing to bring in Seymour and plug him in on the Dline.
OT is more complex and I have to believe Barnes would be ahead of Walker.
Agree with RR, Green is capable backup and nothing more.
September 9th, 2009 at 9:10 am
They like Green in the front office and he run blocks well. He just restructured his deal to bring in Seymour. I honestly think Green sticks, but I can’t say I’m surprised by anything the Raiders do.
If they feel he’s as much a liability at RT that Scott was at RE, they’ll take a look at Walker, though I doubt it, as I don’t think that’s the case.
September 9th, 2009 at 9:11 am
Chris
“No way do the Raiders not get Seymour AND lose the draft pick. It won’t happen.
I believe Jerry is spot on here. Al and Seymour are working on an extension. It’ll get done soon enough. Hopefully in time for Seymour to practice tomorrow and join the team in time to help out vs. the Chargers.”
In the immortal words of Arthur Q. Fonzerelli
“exactamundo.”
September 9th, 2009 at 9:11 am
It doesn’t take this long to scratch out a contract. This whole thing reeks like sh|t!
If this thing doesn’t get done today get back the 2011 pick and move on. What a FKN circus!
September 9th, 2009 at 9:13 am
I’m gonna guess Seymour would rather still be with NE. That being said I think his non-appearance has to do with contract negotiations rather than him contemplating sitting out. Al has never been shy to playing hardball and if Seymour was threatening not to show, he would’ve issued the 5 day warning letter already. Seymour has always been a “I play if you pay” guy. Once he gets his money, he’ll show up to do his job and do it well. Nothing in his history suggests he’d dog it once his paycheck is assured.
September 9th, 2009 at 9:14 am
Chris in NY: what happened with Jake Plummer when he got traded to Tampa Bay and refused to report?
did he return to Denver? no. the trade was final and the Bucs even had to sue Plummer to recover signing bonus money
the donks weren’t required to do anything, neither are the Pats
September 9th, 2009 at 9:16 am
It is possible we dont sign him to an extension, he sits out 2009. NE gets our draft pick….done deal!
NE has no responsibility at this point, the trade was complete. AL has totally FKD this thing up! The extension should have been done before we sent NE the pick!
September 9th, 2009 at 9:16 am
hwnrdr Says:
September 9th, 2009 at 7:00 am
Nah, if Merrimen doesn’t get suspended by the league, he will stay in SD. I don’t think that the Spano family lets him come here!
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I agree that he wont come to oakland as i was just joking of course. However, I would be willing to put a grand on weather fairymen returns to SD or not.
AJ Smith dislikes fairymen, it is well known factoid. thats why he drafted fairymens replacement english in the first rd this year.
Bottom line fairymen wont be a charger next year guaranteed…..
September 9th, 2009 at 9:19 am
I love how people in the media are painting this as a great trade for the Patriots and a lousy one for the Raiders. Give me a break.
You think if we traded Nnamdi a week before the season to New England for a 1st-round pick two years from now they wouldn’t be howling at how dumb a move the Raiders made? Seymour is not as good as Nnamdi, but they’re in the same class. They’d be laughing at how the Raiders gave up an elite player for a prospect who won’t contribute for years.
Now, because it’s the other way around, it’s “Seymour is over the hill (at 29?) and the Raiders got fleeced.”
Most of these guys are imbeciles. Look at Merril Hodge on BSPN. Would you trust that guy to pump your gas right? His brain was scrambled play FB in the NFL and let’s face it — he was a dumbass to begin with.
These guys look at the W-L standings from the last season or two and make up a bunch of crap and fill in the blanks from there without doing any real analysis.
Tell me which side of this deal you’d rather have:
– Derrick Burgess and a 1st-round pick in 2011.
or
– Richard Seymour and 3rd and 5th round picks in 2010.
It’s obvious to me that the Raiders got the better end of the deal. Not that the Pats are dumb, but they won’t be able to re-sign Seymour with all their other big-money contracts coming due. Seymour is considerably better than Burgess, whose production has plummeted the last few years. Everyone knows a pick in the next year is more valuable than one the year later. That’s why if a team wants a high-to-mid 2nd-round pick during a given draft, they often will give up a 1st rounder in the following draft. Or, if they want a 1st rounder in the year they’re in, they’ll have to give up a 1st the following year and an additional pick or two. A 1st-rounder in hand is worth more than one down the line.
September 9th, 2009 at 9:20 am
Don’t forget that walker can also play guard.So even if barnes is looking good,they can still bring in walker to add depth at tackle and guardHe seemed to be one of al’l guys when he was in oakland,and he only left because buffalo threw a grip of money at him.I wasn’t one of his fans,but he’s adequate and much better then shrapnel green
September 9th, 2009 at 9:21 am
Have to believe we will be looking at Barnes at RT.
I have to believe Barnes would be ahead of Walker.
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Charlie: really? Barnes hasn’t played RT since college. coming off an injury. received zero reps at RT in camp & OTA’s. I think he’s more of an insurance policy for Mario Henderson
Walker started 32 games the past 2 seasons in Buffalo and I think he’ll sign here relatively cheap. he already got his big money deal. Langston may never be a pro bowler, but he’s 20 times better than Green or Pears! Harris/Green was the WORST pair of tackles in the league. only 1 of those 2 players got cut.
maybe Hellsbells is right? try Cornell Green at RG if he’s such a good run blocker. maybe it’ll cut down on his penalties like the Gallery conversion
September 9th, 2009 at 9:21 am
Latest rumor on this seymour deal that has become yet another debacle….
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/09/09/if-seymour-doesnt-report-raiders-will-want-their-pick-back/
Jerry, you can cut and past, then add your name and start a new thread to your blog now…..
September 9th, 2009 at 9:22 am
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/09/09/if-seymour-doesnt-report-raiders-will-want-their-pick-back/
raiders will get there pick back.
September 9th, 2009 at 9:23 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
September 9th, 2009 at 9:14 am
Chris in NY: what happened with Jake Plummer when he got traded to Tampa Bay and refused to report?
did he return to Denver? no. the trade was final and the Bucs even had to sue Plummer to recover signing bonus money
the donks weren’t required to do anything, neither are the Pats
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It’s not the same thing. As far as I know the Bucs didn’t have a clause in that deal like the one Schefter reported the Raiders have. And the Bucs only gave up like a 6th or 7th round pick for a player who already said he was retiring in hopes they could lure him out. They didn’t give up a 1st-round pick or anything close.
September 9th, 2009 at 9:23 am
Mistabrown Says:
September 9th, 2009 at 9:11 am
It doesn’t take this long to scratch out a contract. This whole thing reeks like sh|t!
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It doesn’t take 3 days or more to hammer out a contract extension for a star veteran player? News to me.
September 9th, 2009 at 9:23 am
Did anyone think Seymour might be afraid to take a piss test that NE masked for him the last few years?
September 9th, 2009 at 9:25 am
Seymour just show up man, the Raider Nation will love ya, we need ya for monday night, Just Win Baby
September 9th, 2009 at 9:25 am
ChrisinNY swings the TruthHammer with comment 36.
September 9th, 2009 at 9:26 am
Mistabrown Says:
September 9th, 2009 at 9:16 am
It is possible we dont sign him to an extension, he sits out 2009. NE gets our draft pick….done deal!
NE has no responsibility at this point, the trade was complete. AL has totally FKD this thing up! The extension should have been done before we sent NE the pick!
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Wrong.
September 9th, 2009 at 9:26 am
Chris In NY, first of all what up Bruh?
The reason why the media bags on the Raiders so hard is that we have made a lot of bad decisions. In the eyes of the media we can do nothig right when the evidence suggest otherwise. However, winning does cure all that ails you, and your team…..
September 9th, 2009 at 9:29 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
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TurdWacker: I already posted the stats above that prove otherwise unless you are blind, retarded or both.
RaiderRockstar Says:
TW & BSJ are stumped. LOL
dumb libs!
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Name calling, the last bastion of the ineffectual & mentally week. That’s why all your side has is slogans & name calling like Hitler/communist/marxist/death panels. You do realise you vote against you own best interest?
September 9th, 2009 at 9:30 am
Trades are not finalized till the player passes the new teams physical. If you do not show up for said physical, how can you pass it? Do you think Al went ahead and waived this ?
DT McCargo fails physical, voiding trade with Colts
Running back Lee Suggs failed his physical with the New York Jets on Tuesday, voiding his trade from Cleveland
Jones must also pass a physical before the trade can be completed.
September 9th, 2009 at 9:32 am
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/09/09/if-seymour-doesnt-report-raiders-will-want-their-pick-back/
Check out the above link then scroll down and read the comments. This all could very well be about new england owing Seymour. So if we bought his contract are we on the hook for this “bonus money”. Doubt that we did this unknowingly…
September 9th, 2009 at 9:32 am
Man what a mess………………………….
Call up Sapp and bring him back for a year and get your pick back.
September 9th, 2009 at 9:34 am
For get it man we took DHB in the draft over a strting DL so get DHB some bigger pads he is going both ways. Put him in a tackle he is making enough money to do it.
September 9th, 2009 at 9:37 am
the Bucs only gave up like a 6th or 7th round pick for a player who already said he was retiring in hopes they could lure him out. They didn’t give up a 1st-round pick or anything close.
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it was a conditional draft pick. nobody knows if that means 2nd round or 7th round. probably based on playing time or performance. 2nd part of that is false. Plummer got traded before any retirement talk. He chose to retire instead of joining a QB competition with 4 other guys in TB. 1st round or 3rd round, it doesn’t matter. it’s the same scenario.
the PFT article says the Raiders would want thier pick back if the deal fell through. Does that shock anybody? that isn’t exactly BREAKING NEWS. doesn’t mean they’ll get it, but it does mean Davis would file some sort of grievance or lawsuit. there are NFL rules that side with both parties, so the league would have to intervene.
I expect Seymour to be a Raider eventually, he doesn’t want to forfeit 3.7 million this year and the potential for big money in his next contract.
so this talk is all likely moot, but worst case scenario this could be a disaster. no seymour, no 1st rounder. it is possible.
September 9th, 2009 at 9:38 am
Why does it have to be so hard to be a Raiders fan?
We should be excited right now but NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOo!!!
We are waiting to see if one of the best tackles in the league is even going to show up to practice for our Monday night game.
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
September 9th, 2009 at 9:45 am
I believe they will work out a deal because “We PAY so he will PLAY” I just hope it isn’t mega bucks deal..We would need atleast a 4 year deal. If they can’t agree then i say send him back to the Patriots since he has not taken/passed a physical. It will be their issue since they are already at 53 without him. The money we just saved on rework contracts should go to other options..maybe L Walker.. but it has to be either OLine or D line.
September 9th, 2009 at 9:46 am
mariohenderson: whos da betta rapper Lil wayne, Jay Z, 50 cent, T.I., tupac, biggie.i said lil wayne we had an argument in da lockerroom 4 bout an hour..
This is what they’re arguin about for an hour in the lockerroom? We’re fuked!
September 9th, 2009 at 9:48 am
Source: Seymour thought he was getting a new deal in New England
Posted by Mike Florio on September 9, 2009 12:27 PM ET
So why hasn’t defensive lineman Richard Seymour reported for duty in Oakland?
Some think that he wants a new deal from a Raiders. A league source tells us that the root of the problem is that Seymour thought he was getting a new deal from the Patriots.
Per the source, Seymour believes that progress was being made toward an agreement that would have extended his stay with the Patriots beyond 2009. Then, seemingly out of nowhere, the Patriots shipped him to Oakland.
The source explains that there’s a chance that agent Eugene Parker led Seymour to believe that the talks toward a new deal had progressed farther than they actually had. Either way, the fact that Seymour went from thinking he was going to sign a retirement deal with the Patriots to learning that he’d been sent to the Raiders has contributed in large part to the confusion and frustration that has kept him from reporting to work at his new place of employment.
And it remains to be seen whether he ever will.
September 9th, 2009 at 9:49 am
new post from PFT
Source: Seymour thought he was getting a new deal in New England
Posted by Mike Florio on September 9, 2009 12:27 PM ET
So why hasn’t defensive lineman Richard Seymour reported for duty in Oakland?
Some think that he wants a new deal from a Raiders. A league source tells us that the root of the problem is that Seymour thought he was getting a new deal from the Patriots.
Per the source, Seymour believes that progress was being made toward an agreement that would have extended his stay with the Patriots beyond 2009. Then, seemingly out of nowhere, the Patriots shipped him to Oakland.
The source explains that there’s a chance that agent Eugene Parker led Seymour to believe that the talks toward a new deal had progressed farther than they actually had. Either way, the fact that Seymour went from thinking he was going to sign a retirement deal with the Patriots to learning that he’d been sent to the Raiders has contributed in large part to the confusion and frustration that has kept him from reporting to work at his new place of employment.
And it remains to be seen whether he ever will.
September 9th, 2009 at 9:52 am
woj: I agree. Henderson isn’t being pushed. rap debates in the locker room and burger king binges after camp doesn’t sound like a disciplined team
I was hoping the new OL coach from Cal would whip these pigs into shape!
September 9th, 2009 at 9:52 am
To much speculation and rumors flying around right now.
I was skeptical about the pick because we allways get raped by the pats… Will have to wait and see how it plays out. Can he help us beat san diego at this point???????
September 9th, 2009 at 9:53 am
Post #56 is ONE of the reasons whe we are sorry!
You can’t stop the Run!
You didn’t play well in preseason!
Your 1st game is less than 1 week away!
You play the Dischargers that you haven’t won against since 02!!!
And you are arguying about Rappers!!!!!!!!!
Why don’t argue about which one of you Sorry MFers is going to stop LT, sack Rivers, and stop their run??!!!!
Happy being losers!!!
September 9th, 2009 at 9:53 am
Wonder what the players think of this latest debacle?
September 9th, 2009 at 9:54 am
Jake Grove is re-proving he is a disappointment:
http://www.miamiherald.com/sports/football/story/1223837.html
September 9th, 2009 at 9:56 am
Thanks TW. Rockstar is clearly on edge in advance of the big speech from our great nation’s true leader.
September 9th, 2009 at 9:56 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
hey mod, you delete my comment and not TW’s ?
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Maybe reality has a liberal bias? hahaha
September 9th, 2009 at 9:57 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
September 9th, 2009 at 9:51 am
hey mod, you delete my comment and not TW’s ?
hmm.. if we’re sticking to football talk, why not delete all non-football related and political babble filled posts?
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Waaaaaaahhhhh. The mod whacked mine too. Stop playing the victim.
September 9th, 2009 at 9:57 am
TW: ok, so you’re basically admitting that you both got clowned on the issue and have no further response?
thats fine then. no use beating a dead horse
September 9th, 2009 at 9:57 am
BSJ, if he had kids I’m sure he kept them out of school yesterday. hahaha
September 9th, 2009 at 10:00 am
If this fool doesn’t show up by tomorrow, I say we get our pick back, this is reeeeeee diculous!
Adam Shefter is a rtard, on his twitter account he said, “well looks like the Pats are out of this deal… with Oaks first round pick” What a joke this guy is, he needs to stick to what he knows best Fantasy football. Needless to say I responded to him telling him he was a moron.
September 9th, 2009 at 10:03 am
RR
I guess I feel Barnes will have more of a feel for our system and plays than Walker by week two when he is projected to return.
Very good point about switching sides. I remember Cable saying early in camp that Barnes would only need a “couple” of weeks to get comfortable on the right side which is what I based my statement on.
Was Walker supplanted by a better player? Was he hurt?
I have admittedly lost track of him.
September 9th, 2009 at 10:04 am
If he doesn’t show up today, I say shoot his big toe off!
If he is not a Raider, he is not playing in the NFL!!!!
Hire me Mr. Davis!!!
September 9th, 2009 at 10:05 am
Was Walker supplanted by a better player? Was he hurt?
I have admittedly lost track of him.
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he was displaced in favor of last year’s 7th rounder at LT. they are going with youth on the o-line overhaul that features 2 rookies at guard
he’s not hurt, nor did he play poorly the last few years. I posted the stats (above) earlier
September 9th, 2009 at 10:07 am
http://www.raidernationstation.com/exclusives
“Completely unsubstantiated sources out of Oakland state terms are being hammered out on a 3 yr deal worth millions in the double digits. Its also claimed Seymour will be on a plane Thursday bound for the Bay.”
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LOL!
Telling it like it is…I guess…
September 9th, 2009 at 10:07 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
TW: ok, so you’re basically admitting that you both got clowned on the issue and have no further response?
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My response was “moderated” but clowned???!?! Really??
This ain’t a circus & I don’t need a clown—Steve Miller Band
September 9th, 2009 at 10:09 am
71. Schefter now works for ESPN, Nuff said…
September 9th, 2009 at 10:14 am
Peppers to head out West?
11:08
AM ETJulius Peppers | Panthers | Interested: Raiders? Top Email We all know that Julius Peppers has been a little upset with how his contract situation was dealt with by the Carolina Panthers. But are the Panthers ready to cut ties?
Within today’s mailbag column, NFL Insider Adam Schefter presents a trade scenario that would send Peppers off to Oakland in exchange for Richard Seymour, who still hasn’t reported to the team.
Trading one upset player for another might not be an ideal move, but as Schefter notes, Seymour makes his offseason home near where the Panthers play and the Panthers might not care what Peppers wants anymore. Furthermore, while Carolina was reticent to give Peppers his long-term payday, Al Davis is no stranger to breaking the bank for guys that he wants.
September 9th, 2009 at 10:19 am
My response was “moderated” but clowned???!?! Really??
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if it’s moderated I can’t see it smart guy. If I can’t see it, it never happened as far as i’m concerned. The mod probably toasted it for political talk. thats what you like to tie into every debate of ours. oh, and Nugent …
September 9th, 2009 at 10:21 am
Raiders trade Seymour to Carolina in exchange for Peppers? Schefter is really reaching on this one.
Peppers wants to play OLB and the Raiders run a 4-3. Who says he’ll want to play here either?
September 9th, 2009 at 10:30 am
this is killing me, man lets get some news, he either shows up or not, we need him for monday.
September 9th, 2009 at 10:31 am
if the reports are true that Seymour wanted a new deal in New England, he’ll certainly want a new deal in Oakland … that would also explain why he’s unhappy about being traded. Not because it’s to the Raiders, but because N.E. acted as if they were committed to him and shipped him off to the highest bidder a week before the season opener
and if that agent lied to him or gave him the wrong impression, I wouldn’t be surprised if he dumped that agent and got a new one to broker a deal with Al Davis & the Raiders
September 9th, 2009 at 10:33 am
I would lighten up, except we are the worst franchise over the last 6 years, our defense has possibly gotten worse against the run, and our 1st O reallly didn’t look all that good so far. I would think that hour would have been a hell of alot more productive if they used it for, I don’t know, film study or some extra practice, things like that. I’m all for them bonding and all, but couldn’t the rapper discussion have been held outside the lockerroom at a later time.
and it’s between tupac and Biggie
September 9th, 2009 at 10:34 am
James Marten signed to Bears practice squad.
Kwame Harris still homeless. LOL
September 9th, 2009 at 10:34 am
Tupac……always, way more passion in his rhymes, biggie was definitely tight but i have to stay west coast with this one, and i don’t know why no one ever mentions Eminem, he has flow……
September 9th, 2009 at 10:36 am
# RaiderRockstar Says:
September 9th, 2009 at 8:38 am
The other possibility, depending on the terms of the deal between the teams, is that the whole deal is voided, with Seymour going back to New England to finish his contract.
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Adam Schefter says this isn’t an option. Pretty sure he knows more than Jerry …
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Clearly, going back to the New England Idiots is not an option. See Cutler, Jay.
September 9th, 2009 at 10:38 am
So, your either suiting up for practice, or just coming off the field. Instead of talking about what your going to do in practice, or what just happened in practice, you argue for an hour about the best rapper. Hell of a way for a team to get outta the dumps. You’re about to play the chargers monday night in your home opener, the team that has beat you 11 STRAIGHT TIMES, don’t you think there should be a little urgency in that locker room?
September 9th, 2009 at 10:42 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
September 9th, 2009 at 10:31 am
if the reports are true that Seymour wanted a new deal in New England, he’ll certainly want a new deal in Oakland … that would also explain why he’s unhappy about being traded. Not because it’s to the Raiders,
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D-E-N-I-A-L
Didn’t you read the Rodney Harrison article? Don’t make me post it again.
September 9th, 2009 at 10:44 am
woj: i’ll be impressed if Mario Henderson handles Shawne Merriman the way he did Gaines Adams. Until then, i’ll reserve my judgement on him as a player
he had help in pass protection last year and wasn’t half the run blocker Cornell Green was …
3rd round picks usually are projects that you hope blossom in thier 3rd NFL season. We’ll see if Henderson as what it takes and if he can do it by himself on an island. He obviously thinks so if he switched to Drew Rosenhaus and took every rep with the starters this offseason
here’s calling Higgins as well. too bad Cable isn’t giving him a chance!
September 9th, 2009 at 10:46 am
Kelly: I’m not concerned about what Rodney Harrison has to say on the matter. post it again if you like, but it holds no water with me
I think Seymour & the Raiders are working on a deal as we speak …
September 9th, 2009 at 10:47 am
This is getting ugly…what a joke…Seymour, man up and do your job.
September 9th, 2009 at 10:49 am
Of course he’s working on a deal with Oakland, what other choice does he have?
September 9th, 2009 at 10:50 am
I think the media misconstrues a quality organization for a winning one.
We all know Al is shrewd, but if anything, overpays players and tends to keep them around as long as possible. He’s had the NFL halfway house for years now, and for the most part, it’s a succesful practice,
If what Florio suggests here is true, it would underscore what Cable said, meaning it’s the Patriots that were tying this up – not the Raiders.
The Patriots ship off proven veterans, guys that helped win them their coveted Lombardi trophies, and groom their replacements before giving the vets one last big payday. Not a bad strategy at all, don’t get me wrong. It certainly has produced wins. But talk about shrewd?
Wow.
Is it possible Al Davis comes in here and actually ’saves the day’?
Maybe we get some good press.
“Disgruntled Pat finds new home and major payday as an outcast in the Black Hole.”
I can dream, can’t I?
September 9th, 2009 at 10:54 am
As much as I want Seymour to join the Raiders, I can understand his delay. A week before the season starts and he is betrayed by the Cheaters. Traded to what some consider a disfunctional franchise while negotiating a new deal. Though we are optimistic about 2009 and feel he will make us into a contender in the AFC West, he’s been forced to relocate cross country and leave his family. He is in the best position of his career to get a new deal and I don’t blame him for taking advantage.
September 9th, 2009 at 10:55 am
OMG, please pick up Langston Walker as RG. Cooper is so inadequate!
And when Barnes comes back he can start at RT. we would then have a very decent and much more powerful starting O-Line! The only weak link would be center since Satele isnt working out and Morris is unproven.
Henderson, Gallery, Morris, Walker, Barnes.
Doesnt that sound good compared to Green and Cooper on the right?? And Cooper can still be a backup!
September 9th, 2009 at 10:56 am
LA To TheBay Says:
September 9th, 2009 at 10:50 am
I think the media misconstrues a quality organization for a winning one.
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Oh my gawd!
September 9th, 2009 at 10:56 am
I know Kell will shred me for my last comment, as I may have just called the Raiders a better organization than the Patriots.
Not a better draft record or scouting record over the last sven years.
Not more successful over the last seven years.
Not more profitable over the last seven years.
But better.
Now, tell me I’m wrong.
September 9th, 2009 at 10:58 am
we at least with the raiders when they cheated it was legal the patriots got busted for cheating, well and the nfl cheated with the tuck rule, that’s because it was the 9/11 year and the patriots were america’s team that year red white blue etc, and the nfl despises the raiders
September 9th, 2009 at 11:00 am
RRS, you cannot “clown” anybody by claiming Langston Walker is a solution to our RT problems. He was cut from a bad team because his play didn’t justify his salary – something we all knew 2 years ago. If you think our team needs more starters who would never start on another team, you’re nuts. Try less possum in your diet, maybe.
September 9th, 2009 at 11:04 am
It’s what’s for dinner!
September 9th, 2009 at 11:05 am
BSJ – solution? no, I said upgrade
does Tommy Kelly’s play justify his salary? how about Russell or McFadden? or DHB or Walker … the list goes on & on
so should we cut these players? no. Buffalo did and they were stupid for doing so, never should have gave him that megabucks deal in the first place
he wouldn’t start for any other team? how do you know that? would Cornell Green start for another team or even Mario Henderson?
I’ve never eaten possum. have you? think before you speak, maybe.
September 9th, 2009 at 11:13 am
Guys, you need to wake up and realize Langston Walker is NOT a ZBS lineman, and currently not NFL-worthy for any scheme!
He is 6′8″ and 366 lbs for Al’s sake! 40 lbs HEAVIER than any other Olineman we have, in a scheme that emphasizes ATHLETIC lineman that can get to the second level!
Cable/Michaelczik are shopping for Oline depth and know Langston very well. Cable obviously looked at him closely two years ago..result? We did not even offer him a FA contract. And we aren’t gonna see him in Alameda now. Thankfully.
Now, if you want a RT upgrade start you should be drooling over Jon Runyan…
September 9th, 2009 at 11:13 am
Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
Guys, you need to wake up and realize Langston Walker is NOT a ZBS lineman, and currently not NFL-worthy for any scheme!
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The only plays I remeber him making were blocking field goals & extra points. Oh, and not noticing he had internal bleeding.
September 9th, 2009 at 11:14 am
Somebody sent this to me:
Everyone knows how it works when trading current draft picks for future draft picks. For example the Broncos wanted the Seahawks 2nd RD pick in the 2008 draft and had to give up a 1st in the 2009 draft. It is considered the interest payment for getting a player you want now while giving up a higher value in the future.
Vikings were praised for trading for Jared Allan when they gave up #17, #73 & #87 in the 2008 draft. Now Jared Allan is great against the pass but not nearly as good against the run. So when you compare them Seymour is as good if not better then Allan because he is a more complete player.
Now seeing that the Vikings made the trade at draft time before the 2008 season began the value of the trade was in 2008 was…
#17 + #73 + #87 = 950 + 225 + 180 = 1360.
That same value in 2008 of 1360 is equal to the #9 pick and when you prorate it to the 2009 draft it is worth about 490.
Take that same pick in the 2009 draft and prorate it to the 2010 draft and the value is 225 or a 3rd RD pick.
Same way even if we gave up a top 10 pick in the 2011 draft, prorated 2 years out it has a current value of a 3rd RD pick. Now when you add in the Burgess trade we got a 3rd & a 5th in 2010. So the overall trade value prorated based upon trade value is:
Now when you add in the Burgess trade we got a 3rd & a 5th in 2010. So the overall trade value prorated based upon trade value is:
Burgess & a 5th for Seymour
And people are laughing at us…
September 9th, 2009 at 11:15 am
looks like you’re done talking about football. where’s the mod?
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Gloves are off, RockStar. You asked for it you got it.
September 9th, 2009 at 11:16 am
Langston got moved to left tackle…
and so a whole lot more was expected of him…
they’re dumping him and his contract…
doesn’t mean he’s not a good RT…
but he made too much for a RT…
so he got cut…
considering what we have… if he’s willing to play cheap… i’d take him…
September 9th, 2009 at 11:19 am
KoolKell Says:
September 9th, 2009 at 10:56 am
LA To TheBay Says:
September 9th, 2009 at 10:50 am
I think the media misconstrues a quality organization for a winning one.
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Oh my gawd!
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see? called it. lol. Tell us how misguided I am Kell. Even you must admit I have a point. Davis takes care of his people to a fault.
September 9th, 2009 at 11:23 am
Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
September 9th, 2009 at 11:15 am
KoolKell, we didn’t trade Walker. We chose not to pay him when we went to the ZBS.
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Right, pardon me. But he played for the Cal ZBS guy, no?
September 9th, 2009 at 11:23 am
Now, if you want a RT upgrade start you should be drooling over Jon Runyan…
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yes. a soon to be 36 year old vet with busted up knees and no experience in the zbs is a better fit than a healthy 30 year old Walker who had the same OL coach at Cal
Runyan sure is ATHLETIC! hahaha
“currently not NFL-worthy for any scheme”
really? the Bills speak for 31 other NFL teams?
who else would hire Dick Jauron as HC, sign Terrell Owens, trade away your Pro Bowl LT in his prime or start 5 new guys on the OL?
September 9th, 2009 at 11:24 am
I’d take either Runyan or Walker…or your grandmother…she is probably a better pass protector than Green or Barnes lol.
September 9th, 2009 at 11:24 am
Walker is better than Green.
Runyan is better than Walker.
Neither Runyan nor Walker fit in our scheme.
We can’t afford either.
Cornbread’s the guy, people. Unless we elevate whats his name from the practice squad or fing a ‘gem’ in FA, this is it.
September 9th, 2009 at 11:26 am
who else would hire Dick Jauron as HC, sign Terrell Owens, trade away your Pro Bowl LT in his prime or start 5 new guys on the OL?
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You forgot fire the O coord. a week before the season. Yeah, we’re the most disfunctional team, looks like we have company.
September 9th, 2009 at 11:27 am
LA To TheBay
When the Raiders are at the bottom of virtually every measurable for NFL Organizations, you can’t possible be serious.
“Davis takes care of his players to a fault” Oh yeah? which ones.
September 9th, 2009 at 11:28 am
Dakota,
How dare you talk about my grandmother. She’s dead!
(sorry, bad joke)
September 9th, 2009 at 11:30 am
We can’t sign anyone until Seymour makes up his mind. We have to find out how much he is going to cost.
September 9th, 2009 at 11:32 am
RRS, only time will tell if Langston can start for another team. If it happens, I suspect it will only be because of an injured player who is better.
For some reason you guys think Walker was good when he was here in 2006 at RT. Thats lunacy. I’m glad you don’t have Al’s ear.
He would not be an upgrade to Green, and thats saying something. When he finally started, Walker allowed 10.5 sacks in 2006! And 3.75 sacks in 6 games in 2005!
September 9th, 2009 at 11:33 am
Thec07 Says:
September 9th, 2009 at 9:26 am
Chris In NY, first of all what up Bruh?
The reason why the media bags on the Raiders so hard is that we have made a lot of bad decisions. In the eyes of the media we can do nothig right when the evidence suggest otherwise. However, winning does cure all that ails you, and your team…..
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The “evidence suggest otherwise”??
OBVIOUSLY you are suppressing evidence.
What the hell evidence can suggest otherwise?
Dude, you need to take off the blinders.
Al has written the book on “Ways for an owner to BUTT IN and ruin an organization”.
You’ve heard of the “ah sh1Te’s” and the ‘attaboys’?
See, in relationships, business, and especially making decisions that affect the image of an organization/team/etc.. for each and every “ah sh1te” you have to have 10 “attaboys” to average out…TEN.
In the last three years alone, Al is in arrears for 240 “attaboys” give or take 50.
September 9th, 2009 at 11:34 am
BSJ: how did Gallery & Grove do in 2006?
are they not quality NFL players or starters?
Walker has been in the league since 2002 and the only thing you’re pointing to is 2006, the year he was coached by Shell, Eatman & Slater in the Tom Walsh offense? Why don’t you call Randy Moss a bust while you’re at it!
September 9th, 2009 at 11:35 am
KoolKell Says:
September 9th, 2009 at 11:27 am
LA To TheBay
When the Raiders are at the bottom of virtually every measurable for NFL Organizations, you can’t possible be serious.
“Davis takes care of his players to a fault” Oh yeah? which ones.
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Simple-
“We lost? It’s YOUR FAULT. you’re FIRED!!!….
‘can everyone see the overhead projector?’ “
September 9th, 2009 at 11:35 am
Richochet Says:
In the last three years alone, Al is in arrears for 240 “attaboys” give or take 50.
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Nug, get your crossbow, there’s a skunk in here.
September 9th, 2009 at 11:36 am
# Ryan Says:
September 9th, 2009 at 11:14 am
Somebody sent this to me:
Everyone knows how it works when trading current draft picks for future draft picks. For example the Broncos wanted the Seahawks 2nd RD pick in the 2008 draft and had to give up a 1st in the 2009 draft. It is considered the interest payment for getting a player you want now while giving up a higher value in the future.
Vikings were praised for trading for Jared Allan when they gave up #17, #73 & #87 in the 2008 draft. Now Jared Allan is great against the pass but not nearly as good against the run. So when you compare them Seymour is as good if not better then Allan because he is a more complete player.
Now seeing that the Vikings made the trade at draft time before the 2008 season began the value of the trade was in 2008 was…
#17 + #73 + #87 = 950 + 225 + 180 = 1360.
That same value in 2008 of 1360 is equal to the #9 pick and when you prorate it to the 2009 draft it is worth about 490.
Take that same pick in the 2009 draft and prorate it to the 2010 draft and the value is 225 or a 3rd RD pick.
Same way even if we gave up a top 10 pick in the 2011 draft, prorated 2 years out it has a current value of a 3rd RD pick. Now when you add in the Burgess trade we got a 3rd & a 5th in 2010. So the overall trade value prorated based upon trade value is:
Now when you add in the Burgess trade we got a 3rd & a 5th in 2010. So the overall trade value prorated based upon trade value is:
Burgess & a 5th for Seymour
And people are laughing at us…
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Exactly. It’s a joke. The “experts” in the media have no back bone. They’re scared sh!tless to say the pauper-like Raiders got the better end of a deal with the princely Patriots. Even though it’s true.
The immediate reaction to this trade by Pats fans was “WTF? Utter disbelief. I trust Belichick but I hope he knows what he’s doing.” Now everyone is all talking “Can’t believe the Raiders got fleeced again by the Patriots. They’re becoming New England’s farm team.” It’s preposterous.
I was ready to put my foot through the TV last night listening to Merril Hodge and Elizabeth Hasselbeck’s husband talk about the Raiders. Mr. Elizabeth said something like “let’s face it, the Raiders are going to be horrible this year. There’s no way around it” and that dumbass Hodge said something that made no sense when asked who the worst team in the league this year would be he and Mr. Elizabeth both agreed on the Lions. But then Hodge added “But they’ll be battling for the Raiders eventually.” WTF. Hodge you dumbass. What does that even mean. Anyone ever see “Not Another Teen Movie” where the kid has had so many concussions that he’s barely coherent anymore and spout nothing but nonsense. That’s Hodge.
September 9th, 2009 at 11:37 am
LOL, this analysis from a local Buffalo paper. Apparently Langston can’t adapt to the no huddle.
Latest News
The Bills released Walker, their starting left tackle, on Tuesday.
Analysis: The move comes after offensive coordinator Turk Schonert was fired on Friday, and veteran running back Dominic Rhodes was cut a day later. The changes are regarded as the ongoing fallout from a new no-huddle attack that struggled this preseason. The Trent Edwards-led starting unit was limited to 3 points in 15 series, while the offense as a whole failed to score a touchdown in its final two preseason games.
September 9th, 2009 at 11:40 am
KoolKell Says:
September 9th, 2009 at 11:23 am
Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
September 9th, 2009 at 11:15 am
KoolKell, we didn’t trade Walker. We chose not to pay him when we went to the ZBS.
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Right, pardon me. But he played for the Cal ZBS guy, no?
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No. Michalczik got to Cal in 2002: http://www.calbears.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/michalczik_jim00.html
Walker was a rookie in Oakland in 2002.
He is NOT a ZBS fit, nor a good Olineman. He weighs 366 without a spleen. You suckasses just like his local roots, but the guy is a sow plain and simple.
September 9th, 2009 at 11:42 am
I have a feeling the Bills are going to draft somebody I was hoping the Raiders would draft if he fell to them in the first round. The Bills appear to be falling apart.
September 9th, 2009 at 11:44 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
September 9th, 2009 at 11:34 am
Walker has been in the league since 2002 and the only thing you’re pointing to is 2006.
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Walker did not start until 2006. Thats why. And he gave up 10.5 sacks. They year before he gave up 3.5 in 6 games.
September 9th, 2009 at 11:45 am
Apparently Langston can’t adapt to the no huddle.
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could Henderson, Barnes, Green or even JaMarcus for that matter?
besides, the OC who was implementing the no huddle was fired. what does that tell you?
September 9th, 2009 at 11:45 am
Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
September 9th, 2009 at 11:37 am
LOL, this analysis from a local Buffalo paper. Apparently Langston can’t adapt to the no huddle.
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Cheap Shot!
That’s not at all what the article says. It said Buffalo had problems with the No-Huddle, not Walker
September 9th, 2009 at 11:46 am
Exactly. It’s a joke. The “experts” in the media have no back bone. They’re scared sh!tless to say the pauper-like Raiders got the better end of a deal with the princely Patriots. Even though it’s true.
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If Seymour helped us go from 31st against the run to top 15 then we got the better end of the deal but they wouldn’t report that!
September 9th, 2009 at 11:48 am
1. Richochet Says:
September 9th, 2009 at 11:33 am
Thec07 Says:
September 9th, 2009 at 9:26 am
Chris In NY, first of all what up Bruh?
The reason why the media bags on the Raiders so hard is that we have made a lot of bad decisions. In the eyes of the media we can do nothig right when the evidence suggest otherwise. However, winning does cure all that ails you, and your team…..
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The “evidence suggest otherwise”??
OBVIOUSLY you are suppressing evidence.
What the hell evidence can suggest otherwise?
Dude, you need to take off the blinders.
Al has written the book on “Ways for an owner to BUTT IN and ruin an organization”.
You’ve heard of the “ah sh1Te’s” and the ‘attaboys’?
See, in relationships, business, and especially making decisions that affect the image of an organization/team/etc.. for each and every “ah sh1te” you have to have 10 “attaboys” to average out…TEN.
In the last three years alone, Al is in arrears for 240 “attaboys” give or take 50.
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The evidence suggest that this will be a good deal for the Raiders run defense.
“Suppressing evidence”, don’t think so if you read my comment “ we have made a lot of bad decisions”.
Not sure you have been on this site long enough to even suggest I have blinders on. I wanted to see Mr. Davis overthrown last year for incompetence, so your assumption is baseless. I abhor the way this franchise is run, Mr. Davis is 80 and in my opinion has
Ran this into the round. The organization is ran like his pet project versus a business.
I have said this before a number of times on this blog.
Nice try though…..
September 9th, 2009 at 11:48 am
Am I the only one at this point that says “TO HELL WITH SEYMOUR”? If he doesn’t want to be here than F HIM!!
September 9th, 2009 at 11:49 am
Langston Walker is not going to fix anything. Unless he comes extremely cheap I wouldn’t really bother.
Green is actually a strong run blocker but he makes too many mental mistakes (false starts, no lining up on the LOS, etc.). If he can hold on until Barnes is ready to go and then serve as a backup, it’s really not a terrible situation. Green was in there when we averaged 28 PPG in the last three weeks. He can get it done well enough.
As for Barnes, he needs to wake up and play RT if Mario is doing well at LT. It’s really not that hard to switch from LT to RT. RT is generally the less demanding position and guys switch from one side to the other all the time. He’s just saying that because he wants to hit free agency as an LT after this season and get paid LT money.
September 9th, 2009 at 11:49 am
Walker did not start until 2006. Thats why.
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BSJ: how did Gallery & Grove do in 2006?
are they not quality NFL players or starters?
thanks for answering half my question.
Walker started 32 games at RT for the Bills the past 2 seasons, how about judging him based upon that? nobody had success on offense in 2006. chalk that up to a mulligan
September 9th, 2009 at 11:49 am
Seymour will be a Raider and Al
will pay up for is service…
September 9th, 2009 at 11:51 am
What have we become, that players would rather play elsewhere than for the Silver and Black. Its very sad.
September 9th, 2009 at 11:52 am
KK – Harrison was a Charger. What do you expect him to say?
September 9th, 2009 at 11:54 am
Forget Langston Walrus. Please. He sucked when he was here and does not fit our system at all. Some of you guys are just brain dead at times.
September 9th, 2009 at 11:55 am
Walker will not be signed because Barnes is going to be playing right tackle as soon as he is healthy. What do you guys think of Green being moved to RG when Barnes is healthy. That would be a serious run blocking duo.
September 9th, 2009 at 11:58 am
Seymour’s cost will either be 3.7 million, something higher or nothing at all. Send him the 5 day notice and end all of this BS. He either plays, he retires, or he continues holding out until he is too “old” to pass a physical which would then make the trade null and void.
September 9th, 2009 at 12:01 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
September 9th, 2009 at 11:49 am
Walker did not start until 2006. Thats why.
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BSJ: how did Gallery & Grove do in 2006?
are they not quality NFL players or starters?
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You are reaching at straws. Walker is not nearly the player that grove and gallery are. Both of them started right away, while Walker took four years. He was a local project, who was drafted way too high, and then we cut our losses.
September 9th, 2009 at 12:03 pm
I’m outta here. work to do
besides, some of you fellers are allergic to common sense, logic and all things lucid
September 9th, 2009 at 12:06 pm
KoolKell Says:
September 9th, 2009 at 11:45 am
Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
September 9th, 2009 at 11:37 am
LOL, this analysis from a local Buffalo paper. Apparently Langston can’t adapt to the no huddle.
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Cheap Shot!
That’s not at all what the article says. It said Buffalo had problems with the No-Huddle, not Walker
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The analysis was of WALKER getting cut, and the analysis pointed to probelms implementing the no huddle. In other words, the no huddle was failing so they cut Rhodes, Walker and the OC. Does it take rocket science to conlude all three were not performing in their new offense?
September 9th, 2009 at 12:07 pm
“Seymour Cost Would Be Considerable.” Actually, it costs MORE to lose.
September 9th, 2009 at 12:14 pm
some of you fellers are allergic to common sense, logic and all things lucid
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Whaddayamean?!? I am a big fan of JaLucid Russell. Although I do despise DeAngelucid Hall.
September 9th, 2009 at 12:14 pm
Hypothetical, and I wouldn’t put it past Belichek
A conspiracy of fraud by Belichek & Seymour, w/ Kraft’s approval no doubt.
Seymour we will trade you; you dont need to show up, retire if you have to (we’ll pay you a consulting fee), get released, come back (after you have healed from the injury we refused to disclose-once again) and we get a 1st rounder from the Raiders for free, the NFL front office will back us up.
just a thought
September 9th, 2009 at 12:17 pm
Oakglenn Says:
September 9th, 2009 at 12:07 pm
“Seymour Cost Would Be Considerable.” Actually, it costs MORE to lose.
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Wow, a comment I agree with.
September 9th, 2009 at 12:23 pm
already a headcase. Yes I feel bad that he’s going from the “super” Patriots to the terrible Raiders but too bad. If you’re traded you’re traded, live with it.
September 9th, 2009 at 12:30 pm
Well Put!!
“Actually, it costs MORE to lose”
Whats up Oak Exla RR Bo Hells Bells etc…
September 9th, 2009 at 12:30 pm
I am dying to hear those 5 words…..
Richard Seymour is in Alameda…..
Because once you visit Al and his Light Saber there is no escaping the FORCE!!!!
September 9th, 2009 at 12:34 pm
Howdy 666.
September 9th, 2009 at 12:36 pm
have any one check out the raider depth chart no javon walker do they plan on cut him
September 9th, 2009 at 12:39 pm
Oakglenn Says:
September 9th, 2009 at 12:07 pm
“Seymour Cost Would Be Considerable.” Actually, it costs MORE to lose.
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couldnt have said it better O. Who cares about 2011. Al has always get what he wants and I guarantee you we will have a first pick in 2011.
September 9th, 2009 at 12:44 pm
Chicagoraider, lets hope he has been traded to da Bears. Or better yet da Cubs.
September 9th, 2009 at 12:46 pm
Silver-n-Black666 that right i new something smell fun here.
September 9th, 2009 at 12:48 pm
What’s up 666? Just watching Raiderbeat live chat.
September 9th, 2009 at 12:57 pm
just in cable went to seymor house and hit Seymour in the jaw and said get to the Alameda
September 9th, 2009 at 12:59 pm
wassup raider nation!
September 9th, 2009 at 12:59 pm
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EX LA
I know a few people in here clowned on Raiderbeat, but I rather like it.
Wex broke a few stories before Jerry And White.
September 9th, 2009 at 1:00 pm
Am I the only one who thinks Huff is best suited for our nickel back position?
September 9th, 2009 at 1:01 pm
It’s an awesome day to be a Raiders fan! Isn’t it?
Al’s got big balls. He’s in the cat-bird seat, and the haters are trying to find ways to diminish that.
Richard Seymour, contrary to certain reports, does not have any more leverage than he had 5-days ago. His primary options are to retire (similar to Plummer – which this is NOT like yet)…or, to sit-out (be suspended) at least 1-year (more likely 2-yrs, if he chooses this bad option)…or, to report and play for his current deal while working on a new one…or, to get a new deal largely in-place before showing up.
There are a number of options available to Seymour if he feels he’s been dealt wrongly by the Pats…not the least of which could be official Labor Relations complaints alleging a failure to negotiate in good faith. Tough nut to prove. His agent may or may not have exaggerated what the Pats were VERBALLY offering, but if it wasn’t already in writing, there’s nothing to hold them to anyway.
Al will be willing to pay Seymour his fair market value. If that’s not enough to get Seymour here, we can do a few things, like TRADE his rights to any of a number of teams closer to his home who would love his services…for a number of picks, players, or a combination of both. How many teams in the Pats own division would love to get ahold of seymour?
But…let’s just get the guy in here, and continue the efforts to improve this team…which, with the help of great players like Seymour, is ready to break-out of its terrible slump.
Taking the better part of a week to sort out a longer-term deal isn’t that big a deal. If this gets ugly, and the Raiders issue the “5-Day” letter, Richard Seymour will be here within 5-days. He wouldn’t be happy, but he’d be here. And he’s play.
Al loves Hall Of Fame players…and Richard Seymour is halfway there. He is perfect for the Raiders D-line, and I’m pretty sure this will work out great.
Actually, I’m pretty sure it’ll work out great for us, even if he doesn’t show — if the other teams knew he was on the trading block, the Raiders may have even been out-bid. He’s got BIG trade value even in limbo.
Rock-on, Big Al.
September 9th, 2009 at 1:02 pm
Maybe if they tried Huff at CB, we could have taken a look. He seems to look better in man coverage, but that’s tough to say. Routt isn’t garbage, despite what some would say. He’s serviceable.
September 9th, 2009 at 1:03 pm
@ post 6
# RaiderRockstar Says:
September 9th, 2009 at 8:38 am
Adam Schefter says this isn’t an option. Pretty sure he knows more than Jerry …
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No, Schefter and BSPN just aren’t talking about this part of the deal because they want to raise the drama to the highest level possible. If you watched Schefter’s report last night on SportsCenter he throws in a quick “and this could all change very quickly” when referring to Seymour’s only option being to play or sit out a year.
September 9th, 2009 at 1:04 pm
Pay him. Whats the hold up? Seymour is the future highest paid DT in the league. It’s what the Raiders are all about. “Just pay me”
September 9th, 2009 at 1:05 pm
The Raiders are 24-72 over the last 6 years. How many of those losses do you credit to Adam Schefter?
September 9th, 2009 at 1:05 pm
Has anyone heard how Schilens injury is coming along?
September 9th, 2009 at 1:06 pm
LA to TheBay Says:
September 9th, 2009 at 1:02 pm
Maybe if they tried Huff at CB, we could have taken a look. He seems to look better in man coverage, but that’s tough to say. Routt isn’t garbage, despite what some would say. He’s serviceable.
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Routt is and average nickelback at best. I’m sure the Raiders have tried Huff at CB already. No way we just let a #7 overall pick just fail at one position and not try him at another.
September 9th, 2009 at 1:06 pm
DMAC Says:
September 9th, 2009 at 1:05 pm
Has anyone heard how Schilens injury is coming along?
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Supposed to be back week 3. That means week 4-5 IMO
September 9th, 2009 at 1:06 pm
Adam Schefter says this isn’t an option.
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It isn’t an option for Schefter to shop in an adult clothing store either.
September 9th, 2009 at 1:12 pm
Did Adam Schefter award Tommy Kelly his contract?
How bout DeAngelo Hall?
September 9th, 2009 at 1:12 pm
let’s restructure Kelly’s contract and pay Seymour his money.
September 9th, 2009 at 1:14 pm
KoolKell Says:
September 9th, 2009 at 1:05 pm
The Raiders are 24-72 over the last 6 years. How many of those losses do you credit to Adam Schefter?
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ALL OF THEM
September 9th, 2009 at 1:14 pm
DMAC Says:
September 9th, 2009 at 1:12 pm
let’s restructure Kelly’s contract and pay Seymour his money.
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Only problem with that, is with Seymour beside him, he becomes and instant probowl possibility.
September 9th, 2009 at 1:18 pm
as of right now i think Eugene is our starting free safety.
September 9th, 2009 at 1:19 pm
DMAC Says:
September 9th, 2009 at 1:18 pm
as of right now i think Eugene is our starting free safety.
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Bummer too. He too slow to be a Raider for one (chuckle), and two: He is that guy that always “ALMOST” makes the big play. Dropped picks, barley missed the ball with a big hit. I like his energy, but I don’t think he is the long term answer.
September 9th, 2009 at 1:20 pm
HayesDaze37, start your own blog if you want to post essays. Gawd, I hate that crap.
September 9th, 2009 at 1:22 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
September 9th, 2009 at 1:22 pm
Eugene at FS & Branch at SS = big day for Rivers and Gates
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Not with Seymour and Ellis in his face (if we get him here that is). Besides, Branch can cover. He needs to just take it up a notch. He’ll do fine…
September 9th, 2009 at 1:22 pm
Eugene at FS & Branch at SS = big day for Rivers and Gates
September 9th, 2009 at 1:22 pm
KK — What’s with Bromance with Adam Shefter?
Did Adam Shefter just make a trade for one of the best D-linemen in the NFL? No.
That would be one Al Davis, Kell…YOUR MAIN MAN!!
Al’s not too old to recognize Seymour’s immense talent…and it’s busting KK’s, MR’s, the trolls’ and the haters’ brains, knowing Al did a good thing.
Here’s a prediction, since we all know how important they are to certain people: When this all shakes out…and the Raiders are better for it at the end…the haters will still find a way to say Al screwed it up.
September 9th, 2009 at 1:23 pm
Anyone considered bringing in Pollard at ss?
September 9th, 2009 at 1:24 pm
When the Raiders find a way to win, THEN, I’ll happy talk with you motha’s.
September 9th, 2009 at 1:28 pm
Let’s send huggy bear packing for a draft pick and assign Rankin the #3 spot!
September 9th, 2009 at 1:29 pm
Ri — You’re in here lately. Nice new troll name.
RaidingTx — Seen your name in here a time or three…but not enough to sweat about your comments on my posts. Don’t like it? Don’t read it. Simple enough.
Funny how the one-n-done posters, or a few-n-done posters fly through here just before and after the regular hate-spewers pop up.
Not enough confederates, so they create their own for support. How much support does one get, when he post as other people to offer himself support? Pathetic and sad.
September 9th, 2009 at 1:29 pm
Aso and Seymour are the only two players worth the money that we are paying. Kelly, no, Walker, no, Hall, no, McFadden, no, DHB, hell no.
So get the deal done and get him in here.
September 9th, 2009 at 1:29 pm
What are the chances of us stopping Tomlinson & Sproles without Richard Seymour?
September 9th, 2009 at 1:31 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
Hey moron, with or without him we ARE not stopping Tomlinson or for that matter anyone this year..when Al passes & we get good ownership & management we will again see Greatness
R
September 9th, 2009 at 1:31 pm
DMAC Says:
September 9th, 2009 at 1:28 pm
Let’s send huggy bear packing for a draft pick and assign Rankin the #3 spot!
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Shoulda done that last season. Love Fargas, but he’s just gotta go. Rankin has too much upside not to be on the 53.
September 9th, 2009 at 1:31 pm
its loking ugly
September 9th, 2009 at 1:31 pm
What’s up Raider Nation?..This is my first post on the blog and I have a statement to make. To all you Raider haters in here B-Gone!!!
GO….R-A-I-D-E-R-S
September 9th, 2009 at 1:31 pm
welcome Haters-B-Gone !
September 9th, 2009 at 1:32 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
September 9th, 2009 at 1:29 pm
What are the chances of us stopping Tomlinson & Sproles without Richard Seymour?
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And Rivers. Let me ask you a question. Can the Raiders withstand a Prime Time Ass-Whoopin, and survive the season?
September 9th, 2009 at 1:32 pm
Kell, the Raiders will find a way to win in weeks 3, 10 and 14. Outside of that, I wouldn’t put money on it.
September 9th, 2009 at 1:33 pm
Kirk Says:
September 9th, 2009 at 1:29 pm
Aso and Seymour are the only two players worth the money that we are paying. Kelly, no, Walker, no, Hall, no, McFadden, no, DHB, hell no.
So get the deal done and get him in here.
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Dang… Never thought I’d ever see McFaddens name on a list like that. Let alone a rookie reciever who hasn’t been given a chance.
September 9th, 2009 at 1:34 pm
Al’s not too old to recognize Seymour’s immense talent…and it’s busting KK’s, MR’s, the trolls’ and the haters’ brains, knowing Al did a good thing.
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Concur.
September 9th, 2009 at 1:34 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
September 9th, 2009 at 1:29 pm
What are the chances of us stopping Tomlinson & Sproles without Richard Seymour?
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ZERO
Unless Mitchell is suddenly healthy enough and stick him in the box man up on the HB.
September 9th, 2009 at 1:35 pm
Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
September 9th, 2009 at 1:34 pm
Al’s not too old to recognize Seymour’s immense talent…and it’s busting KK’s, MR’s, the trolls’ and the haters’ brains, knowing Al did a good thing.
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Concur.
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We all knew that would happen if Al did something right though.
September 9th, 2009 at 1:35 pm
Hayes, I’ve been posting here for a couple of years. I’m frequently here during games. I use this ID to post here and on the Dallas Morning News blogs . . . because I love antagonize all the Cowboys and Longhorns fans in my area. RaidingTexas covers me as a fan of Oakland and Texas Tech.
Just saying I don’t like the “blog within a blog” concept. You obviously have a lot to say, so go start a blog. Put some Google ads on it and make money.
Peace.
September 9th, 2009 at 1:37 pm
Kell: if the Raiders get beatdown on Monday night and the Chargers rush for 200+ yards Richard Seymour will ask to be the NFL’s highest paid DL (outside of Haynesworth maybe) if he still hasn’t reported by then
September 9th, 2009 at 1:37 pm
At least my posts (mostly) address FOOTBALL, and this team. Even if I nail somebody else for their mis-statements, or we have a simple disagreement, the debate is usually Raiders/football related.
Like…how THIS Raiders team is different from last year’s Raiders team, and…
…how great it is to be a Raiders fan…no matter what their record is. Especially in the preseason.
September 9th, 2009 at 1:38 pm
“The Raider Nation needs to come together like butt cheeks!”
September 9th, 2009 at 1:41 pm
If Seymour is not there for MNF, the only chance we have to stop LD and Sproles is if they both pull hammy’s. Then we hold them to 150 rushing. LOL
September 9th, 2009 at 1:42 pm
AZ: zero chance to stop the Chargers running game unless SS Mike Mitchell enters the game?
unfortunately you might be right. we rely WAY to heavily on the safeties in run support because the front seven simply can’t get it done.
Here’s hoping an improved Ricky Brown, healthy Tommy Kelly and vet Greg Ellis make all the difference!
September 9th, 2009 at 1:42 pm
RaidingTexas Says:
September 9th, 2009 at 1:35 pm
Just saying I don’t like the “blog within a blog” concept.
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Yeah, its almost as bad as whining about a blog within a blog. We all really want to read that.
September 9th, 2009 at 1:45 pm
DMAC Says:
September 9th, 2009 at 1:38 pm
“The Raider Nation needs to come together like butt cheeks
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We would be strangly almost exactly like butt-cheeks if Richochet stands in the middle.
September 9th, 2009 at 1:46 pm
Or as bad as whining about “The media hates us. Waaaahhhhh!”
September 9th, 2009 at 1:47 pm
One last thing Tex — Unless we’ve got a real disagreement on something…
I try and address more than one topic from others’ previous posts when I respond…unlike Brientheprivate, norcomabob, MR, Teabaggertroll, et al…I’d rather hit “submit” once instead of a dozen times every 5-minutes.
Raider On, TX!
September 9th, 2009 at 1:49 pm
YOU PEOPLE need to get a silver & black Seymour jersey, because he’ll be a beast on our DL for the next 4-5 years
-a true fan
September 9th, 2009 at 1:51 pm
Who should be our nickel back?? I think they should give Huff a try.
September 9th, 2009 at 1:52 pm
AZ: just trying to keep the Kool-Aid fresh
September 9th, 2009 at 1:54 pm
How about a Sam Williams jersey? lol
September 9th, 2009 at 1:54 pm
My Schilens & Miller jerseys arrived last night
Not like anyone cares. 81 will have to wait even though at time of purchase I was planning on 81 for the opener. Looks like Lamonica is coming out, or maybe we’ll keep it real with Nnamdi.
September 9th, 2009 at 1:55 pm
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September 9th, 2009 at 1:57 pm
DMAC: nickel back will be Routt unless he is subbing for Nnamdi, in which case it would be Huff
Mitchell isn’t ready according to Cable and John Bowie is garbage according to anybody who watched him play during the preseason or read Jerry Mac and David White articles all offseason long
September 9th, 2009 at 1:57 pm
# DMAC Says:
September 9th, 2009 at 1:28 pm
Let’s send huggy bear packing for a draft pick and assign Rankin the #3 spot!
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My thoughts exactly
September 9th, 2009 at 1:58 pm
No other disagreements, Hayes.
Just ready to get Seymour signed and on the field for Monday night. I definitely don’t see that game going well if he’s not there. Having no way to stop LT and having Merriman in the Raiders backfield all day is a recipe for a very lopsided affair. And the team just doesn’t need this distraction to carry on any longer.
September 9th, 2009 at 1:58 pm
I wonder if Brien will hate on Seymour because he was (is?) a Patriot, just like he hates all ex-niners.
Ignatowski Bob will probably want him starting at QB.
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DMAC, they probably will use Huff at nickle if Routt, Aso or CJ get dinged up. God forbid we roll with Bowie.
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RRS, WE PEOPLE (or is it us?) already blew our jersey budget on a #2 JaLucid Russell.
September 9th, 2009 at 1:59 pm
I truly believe that with all the negative publicity surrounding our beloved Raiders that they will find a way to beat the chargers with or without seymour. If we get him great, if we don’t that’s cool 2 because we don’t need another clown on the team that don’t want to be there.
September 9th, 2009 at 2:01 pm
One thing about Brien…he really does want the team to do well. Unlike his fake bud norcomabob, and his rival MR.
September 9th, 2009 at 2:01 pm
they probably will use Huff at nickle if Routt, Aso or CJ get dinged up. God forbid we roll with Bowie
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my thoughts exactly.
you bought a Russell jersey? what happened to the #2 JaWalrus jersey? you chicken out?
September 9th, 2009 at 2:02 pm
The key to Monday night isn’t necessarily stopping the run…just don’t let it gash us so severely for once (ha).
The real key is keeping JaMarcus upright. If that’s done, the Offense will have a good night…and the Defense will greatly benefit from it.
September 9th, 2009 at 2:02 pm
I had a nightmare last night: It was MNF, SD vs Oakland..Seymour was playing and the D was stopping SD every time, but once the Raiders got the ball back, Cable would just call plays for Fargas and we couldn’t make a first down…I woke up just as SD had finally broken through with a long pass play and was going in for a TD.
September 9th, 2009 at 2:04 pm
lol
September 9th, 2009 at 2:06 pm
Dakota,
Fargas hasn’t practiced in 2 weeks (hamstring). Cable said he knows who the starter will be and will announce it on Thursday or Friday. Fargas is due back to resume practice on Friday – coincidence? lets hope so!
September 9th, 2009 at 2:08 pm
I hope O’neal is really healthy, because I think the Raiders could had benefited from Lorenzo’s services.
September 9th, 2009 at 2:08 pm
From Adam Schitters twitter:
There is no truth to the rumor that Richard Seymour has been spotted in Hattiesburg, Miss., with Tom Cable waiting to pick him up.
LMFAO
September 9th, 2009 at 2:09 pm
Dakota, I believe they call that precognition.
September 9th, 2009 at 2:10 pm
you bought a Russell jersey? what happened to the #2 JaWalrus jersey? you chicken out?
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#2 – Russell. No “first name”. I did actually price out a walrus costume though!
Main priority is finding the cash/time to get to Cali. And hoping the team is worth dropping $1K to see…
September 9th, 2009 at 2:11 pm
later nation! gotta go!
September 9th, 2009 at 2:11 pm
Main priority is finding the cash/time to get to Cali. And hoping the team is worth dropping $1K to see…
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may I suggest Week 2 vs. Kansas City?
September 9th, 2009 at 2:12 pm
Dakota Says:
September 9th, 2009 at 2:02 pm
I had a nightmare last night: It was MNF, SD vs Oakland..Seymour was playing and the D was stopping SD every time, but once the Raiders got the ball back, Cable would just call plays for Fargas and we couldn’t make a first down…I woke up just as SD had finally broken through with a long pass play and was going in for a TD….
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…when all of a sudden Steve Bartman jumped from the stands, ran onto the field and forced a SD fumble, injuring Antonio Gates in the process.
September 9th, 2009 at 2:12 pm
Merriman?? What is he doing NOT indefinitely suspended already?
Whether or not that little Tequila shot was drunk, he had NO legal right to physically obstruct her from leaving his premises. Whether or not there were marks on her body…she wanted to leave (evidenced by her calling the police, and his admitting it)…and he precluded her from doing so. That is just semantics away from a kidnapping charge. He should be suspended already.
Regardless…Merriman’s in deep, and he’s ONCE AGAIN tarnishing the image of the Chargers and the NFL. His own team’s sick of him now…how are they going to stick with him if he can’t play like he used to after his injury, with no ‘roids to help him boost up?
September 9th, 2009 at 2:13 pm
Just got off the phone with a New Jersey Diehard, and he does not like the Trade. Renting a Player for a top 10 pick. Not going to the playoffs anyway, he says……..
September 9th, 2009 at 2:14 pm
Just got off the phone with a New Jersey Diehard
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Kelly: who cares about the slums known as NJ?
tell us what the guys in the barbershop are saying. they seem to have all the insider info
September 9th, 2009 at 2:14 pm
I wouldn’t mind the Raiders being 3-1, but If they get blown out Monday Nite, I think that would be unlikely.
September 9th, 2009 at 2:14 pm
KoolKell Says:
September 9th, 2009 at 2:13 pm
Just got off the phone with a New Jersey Diehard, and he does not like the Trade. Renting a Player for a top 10 pick. Not going to the playoffs anyway, he says……..
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Whats wrong Kell, you don’t like the trade either?
September 9th, 2009 at 2:14 pm
Regardless…Merriman’s in deep, and he’s ONCE AGAIN tarnishing the image of the Chargers and the NFL. His own team’s sick of him now…how are they going to stick with him if he can’t play like he used to after his injury, with no ‘roids to help him boost up?
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don’t hate the playe Hayes… Hate the jersey he wears. Shawne didn’t do shyt to that lil sluttt.
September 9th, 2009 at 2:19 pm
I like the trade, but, I respect this guy’s opinion, too.
But, if we’re not going to the playoff’s anyway, why give up a 1st? We have to keep him for at least 3 yrs.
September 9th, 2009 at 2:20 pm
Dakota don’t type such things you are going to scare teh kids in here!!!
September 9th, 2009 at 2:20 pm
KoolKell Says:
September 9th, 2009 at 2:14 pm
I wouldn’t mind the Raiders being 3-1.
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Wouldn’t mind? WHAT a fan you are KK.
I bet you wouldn’t mind if Metamucil went on sale either.
September 9th, 2009 at 2:21 pm
Nice one Bo!
“I bet you wouldn’t mind if Metamucil went on sale either.”
September 9th, 2009 at 2:27 pm
KoolKell Says:
September 9th, 2009 at 2:19 pm
I like the trade, but, I respect this guy’s opinion, too.
But, if we’re not going to the playoff’s anyway, why give up a 1st? We have to keep him for at least 3 yrs.
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Weren’t you screaming about not drafting DL in the 1st round the last 3 years? Last I checked Seymour is more a sure thing than any 1st round pick coming into the NFL unproven. Even if he only plays at that level for 4 years, it’s not worth it??? WTF?
September 9th, 2009 at 2:28 pm
He has to be here tomorrow to practice, to play Monday?
But Al Davis is not one to be rushed.
September 9th, 2009 at 2:31 pm
NEWS – German Navy kills pirate suspect
A Somali pirate suspect died yesterday after the skiff he was in ignored repeated warnings to stop.
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LMN is gonna be pissed.
September 9th, 2009 at 2:32 pm
Sorry, AZ.
As Howard Cosell used to say, I’m just telling it like it is.
September 9th, 2009 at 2:33 pm
AZ — No telling what happened to either of those freaks…but, if you hold someone against their will, you should go to jail, unless you’re making a legitimate citizen’s arrest yourself. That was APPARENTLY not the case here — she is an adult (whether she acts like it or not), free to move about as she herself sees fit.
Merriman doesn’t have the right, but he has the size and power, to keep her inside his home against her will. This isn’t a case of a one-time/one-night-stand with a stranger, with her then saying she was taken-advantage of. She was apparently a long-time visitor/guest, with no real evident ulterior motives…then, out of the blue, she calls the cops to say she’s being held against her will. They respond, the cops initially agree with her (and Merriman’s account), and Merriman goes down. He is probably looking at some serious charges (and not just civil court).
September 9th, 2009 at 2:33 pm
Ship him back to New England, this isnt worth it. Seymours not going to show up and play unless he gets a monster contract. If he was at all interested in playing for the Raiders, he would report for work as an act of good faith and then begin contract negotiations. Is that really too much to ask? He is under currently under contract after all. Seeing as we gave Tommy Kelly 24 million guaranteed I shudder to think what kind of contract Seymour is going to get. The guy is good, but hes not that good.
I wouldnt be the least bit surprised if he ends up the highest paid lineman in the NFL. Is he worth that kind of cash? No. I realize he plays the run well but one player is not going to fix our run defense. It takes 11 players working together to stop the run, not one superstar.
Everyone was up in arms when the Raiders didnt take Dorsey last year, he was supposed to be the savior. But look how badly the Chiefs defended the run despite having the guy who was supposed to fix our run defense once and for all.
It would appear (and yes this is speculation on my part) that Seymour is only willing to report if Al dangles a big enough carrot in front of him. This is all about a big pay day. If he was at all interested in actually contributing to the success of the team he would have reported by now.
September 9th, 2009 at 2:34 pm
If the D-Line was so un-important at draft time, why is it so important now
You Davis suck-ups?
Ron Brace has made Seymour expendable, BJ Raji is kicking Arse in Green Bay.
DHB looks horrible in hindsight. fortunately, I have foresight.
Nap time, big speech tonite.
September 9th, 2009 at 2:35 pm
BSJ — Good one.
September 9th, 2009 at 2:38 pm
Even the great Raider Howie Long had a few squabbles with Al over money.
Everything will work out.
Got a meeting…
It’s a great afternoon to be a Raiders fan! Isn’t it?
September 9th, 2009 at 2:38 pm
KoolKell Says:
September 9th, 2009 at 2:34 pm
If the D-Line was so un-important at draft time, why is it so important now You Davis suck-ups?
Ron Brace has made Seymour expendable, BJ Raji is kicking Arse in Green Bay.
DHB looks horrible in hindsight. fortunately, I have foresight.
Nap time, big speech tonite.
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Again… if we needed a DT why wait till next draft? WTF?
September 9th, 2009 at 2:41 pm
Ron Brace has made Seymour expendable, BJ Raji is kicking Arse in Green Bay.
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LMFAO
Right.
September 9th, 2009 at 2:43 pm
Seymour needs to understand a few things:
#1 you’re a professional and this is a business
#2 it’s a done deal. no going back now
#3 New England didn’t want you
#4 the best way to get back at them is to turn in an impressive season with the Raiders and prove that you’re still one of the league’s best
if he doesn’t show up at all or simply plays the final year of the current deal with Oakland half hearted, it’ll prove that New England was right. He’s got nothing left and can’t help them reach another championship – that Wilfork and even Brace are better options.
September 9th, 2009 at 2:46 pm
KoolKell Says:
If the D-Line was so un-important at draft time, why is it so important now You Davis suck-ups?
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DHB looks horrible in hindsight. fortunately, I have foresight.
Nap time, big speech tonite
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Funny, KK — We all thought you’ve been napping in here every day.
Who said the D-line was unimportant at draft time? You?
Just because the PLAYERS THE TEAM WANTED weren’t where the team wanted to take them…it doesn’t mean the D-line wasn’t important. We got a guy there in Matt S, and another immediately after the draft in Dez Bryant…both guys look great.
Terdell worked his ass off — losing TOO much bulk in the process — but, he was expected to be better. Trevor Scott had a great start to his career, bulked-up, and was expected to be better. The jury’s still out on how good Scott will be, but we know he’s not the edge-keeping stalwart we need @ RDE.
Keeping an eye elsewhere (i.e., Ellis, Seymour, Wilfork), while trying to fix your D-line doesn’t mean it wasn’t important at any time, especially during the draft.
KK — Go back to sleep.
September 9th, 2009 at 2:47 pm
Now I’m late. Oh well, I’ll survive…
Raider On!!
September 9th, 2009 at 2:48 pm
Kirk Says:
September 9th, 2009 at 2:32 pm
Sorry, AZ.
As Howard Cosell used to say, I’m just telling it like it is.
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McFadden, not worth the contract? I just not buying that shyt.
September 9th, 2009 at 2:51 pm
prolly cant afford another top 10 pick
September 9th, 2009 at 2:53 pm
Im getting tired of people who keep talking about “merriman should be suspended” “he should be in jail” just because he is on the chargers doesn’t mean that you should just jump on him like that if he was treying to stop her from driving drunk fine but if he was trying to stop her fro telling everybody about the roids she found than he should be suspended but at least wait for the facts to come out expecially since she was already found lying about being alergic to alcohol when three days earlier she was talking about being drunk this is just like everybody getting on brandon marshall when if you look at the facts his ex was clearly lying about some things
September 9th, 2009 at 2:56 pm
Okay, this is getting out of hand. It’s almost three o’ clock and nothing on the radar anywhere about Seymour! What in the wide world of sports is going on?
September 9th, 2009 at 2:57 pm
yep…next year is an uncapped year and Big Al opted out of the 1st round,imo
September 9th, 2009 at 2:58 pm
But anyway fukin seymour is being a bich just show up and play nnamdi has been stuck with our weakass team for these past 6 years even though he’s been playing like an allpro for 3 or 4 years he hasn’t been complaing he shows up and plays his part and im glad al has finally come to his senses that half of the players on this d suck so he tries to get wilfork back in april so I guess he’s been trying to get him all offsesaon and finally just settled on seymour or the talks stopped and he saw that NO game and thought we gotta get somebody cause trevor scott aint thwe answer
September 9th, 2009 at 2:58 pm
I hope you are right, AZ. Of course part of the problem may be that McFadden isn’t being used correctly. He should be a third down back with Bush as the starter. But they have been running him between the tackles, and I don’t think he is that durable.
September 9th, 2009 at 3:00 pm
OK…I had to cancel my own meeting. Damn. Guess I’ll have a beer then.
16yrs — Outside of what Brandon Marshall’s GF or Tequila say…other facts come into play.
The facts are Marshall is vindictive and childish, and his run-ins don’t just happen outside of the organization. He makes HIS OWN image worse all the time.
Merriman has already been busted subverting NFL rules on performance-enhancing drugs, is no stranger to controversy he himself creates, and is disliked within his own organization for his prima donna ways. He creates his own buzz for publicity’s sake, and he’s real easy to dislike…especially for Raiders fans.
We can like the way a lot of players play…but it doesn’t mean we have to like the players themselves. Marshall and Merriman deserve all the grief they create for themselves.
September 9th, 2009 at 3:01 pm
why does everthing with this team always such drama. pizzes me off. just leaves us open to all the jabs from the others
September 9th, 2009 at 3:06 pm
4eva, I think the 2010 season is uncapped, but the pick is in 2011…the work stoppage will occur after the 2011 NFL draft…I think the pick will be subject to whatever agreement they come to after the work stoppage….so Al might be giving away a golden nugget if there ends up being limits on rookie salaries.
The only way this is not a disaster for us is if Seymour signs a long-term deal and plays 4 or 5 years for us…
September 9th, 2009 at 3:08 pm
Not a guarantee that the 2011 season will have a rookie cap.
September 9th, 2009 at 3:08 pm
later guys. 5pm in Podunk
September 9th, 2009 at 3:09 pm
ESPN Insider
After breaking down film of both teams, Scouts Inc. offers 10 things to watch in this week’s Chargers-Raiders matchup.
1. Oakland must shorten the game: The Raiders have to do everything possible to keep the Chargers’ offense on the sidelines for as long as possible. They must play with a slow tempo and eat clock when they have the football. That will mean a steady diet of running plays, which is surely the stronger of the two aspects of Oakland’s offense.
2. Utilize RB Darren McFadden: McFadden is the Raiders’ best big-play weapon. He is best in space. Putting him in motion to try drawing coverage from the Chargers’ bigger 3-4 outside linebackers would be a wise strategy. In fact, there isn’t one individual on the Chargers’ defense who is a good matchup one on one against McFadden as a pass catcher.
3. Get the Chargers’ defense moving laterally: The Raiders employ a zone-blocking scheme that stresses mobile line play. That may work well against NT Jamal Williams. Running up the middle on Williams is often futile, but getting his big body moving down the line of scrimmage could open up room for Oakland’s runners. The Chargers also will have to stay disciplined against the cut-back run.
4. Feature TE Zach Miller: Much like the matchup with McFadden, there isn’t a great one-on-one matchup from San Diego’s defense for Miller. Miller is big, reliable and has a great understanding for gaining separation against man or zone coverage. Meanwhile, strong safety is a weak spot in San Diego’s defense. Miller should be primed for a big day.
5. Attack the Raiders’ inexperienced secondary: With the glaring exception of CB Nnamdi Asomugha, Oakland’s secondary is inexperienced and unproven. That could be a huge problem against the potentially lethal Chargers passing attack led by Philip Rivers. Compounding matters, Asomugha (wrist) will not be at full strength. San Diego should utilize plenty of multiple wide receiver sets.
6. Force JaMarcus Russell to win this game: Oakland’s ground attack is far more potent than their ability to move the ball through the air. Russell remains a work in progress and may have some difficulties deciphering the multiple looks he will see against the Chargers’ 3-4 scheme. Making matters worse, Oakland lacks a proven weapon at wide receiver. The Chargers will stack the box to force Russell to make throws to the outside, often against single coverage.
7. Protect Rivers: While the Raiders are not loaded with upper-tier pass rushers, the Chargers had problems protecting Rivers during the preseason. The right side of San Diego’s line is particularly vulnerable. Rivers moves well within the confines of the pocket, but he isn’t a threat to make plays with his legs.
8. San Diego must start strong: The Chargers are the more talented team and should be the class of the AFC West. However, under Norv Turner, this club has a propensity for beginning the season slowly. There is no reason to play without a lot of emotion and fire in Oakland in Week 1. A letdown would be very worrisome.
9. Matchup to watch: Chargers OLB Shawne Merriman vs. Raiders offensive tackles: Merriman will line up on either side of the field. After missing all but one game in 2008, he should be extremely charged up for this divisional rivalry game to begin the new season. Expect an emotional performance from Merriman, and expect him to be extremely difficult to block one on one by either of Oakland’s bookend offensive linemen.
10. Matchup to watch: Chargers RB LaDainian Tomlinson vs. Raiders run defense: Much like Merriman, Tomlinson has a lot to prove this season and he draws an excellent matchup to begin the season against the porous Raiders run defense. Oakland was one of the worst in the league at stopping the run last year.
Prediction
San Diego 34
Oakland 10
September 9th, 2009 at 3:11 pm
I don’t like merriman and I know he got caught taking steroids im just saying dont indict (I don’t know if I spelled that right) him yet she might have seen something she wasn’t supposed and was trying to leave or she might have been drunk im just saying don’t automatically say merriman should be suspended because we don’t want him to sack jamarcus
September 9th, 2009 at 3:13 pm
This guys gonna come in and our line is gonna stop stop the run with Ellis/Seymour/Richardson holding the edge AND get to the quarterback w/ Ellis/Warren/Seymour & Scott. Our D will be solid if we stay healthy of course if it stays healthy because we have no depth at CB and LB. Now our biggest problem is that right side of the line. If Russell doesn’t have time to pass our run game is obselete and our D is worn out like it has been the last 6 years.
September 9th, 2009 at 3:16 pm
24 That makes a lot of sense hopefully cable takes their advice
September 9th, 2009 at 3:17 pm
Protect Rivers: While the Raiders are not loaded with upper-tier pass rushers, the Chargers had problems protecting Rivers during the preseason. The right side of San Diego’s line is particularly vulnerable. Rivers moves well within the confines of the pocket, but he isn’t a threat to make plays with his legs.
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I have been saying this for a couple of weeks now. Someone is gong to hurt rivers this year. the o-line is very suspect….. sacked 4 times in 7 plays in the preseason….
The QB must go down… And go down HARD……
September 9th, 2009 at 3:20 pm
If you held a girl against her will, you’d be in jail still, and you’re “just” a kid (with all due respect). I wouldn’t at all be surprised if he were charged pretty quick. If not, Tequila’s got even more explaining to do than she already has.
And…as far as indicting someone before he’s proven guilty…
I say ANY self-imposed, self-destructive behavior by our arch rival teams is worth trumpeting.
Screw the rest of the division — let them self-destruct all they want. I’ll cheer it every step of the way.
September 9th, 2009 at 3:25 pm
I wonder if Seymour is stalling so that nothing shows up on his physical. The Patriots would do themselves a favor by assisting him here, as if he gets busted for steroids, he doesn’t go to Oakland, he winds up back in New England – where he’s no longer wanted – and suspended.
That would be a lose-lose-lose situation.
September 9th, 2009 at 3:26 pm
The Chargers will stack the box to force Russell to make throws to the outside, often against single coverage.
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I hope SD does that the whole game this year….
San Diego tried this last year game 1 JRUSS line was
Comp Att Yrds TD
J. Russell 22 37 277 1
September 9th, 2009 at 3:27 pm
Thankz Dakota for clearing that up 4 me =)
September 9th, 2009 at 3:29 pm
Prediction
San Diego 30
Oakland 34
8==========D ( () )
sounds good to me
September 9th, 2009 at 3:29 pm
Seymour will probably play for the Raiders this season, get promised that we won’t franchise him, not get a new contract and end up back with the Patriots along with our 2011 1st Round pick. The Pats could win out altogether.
September 9th, 2009 at 3:29 pm
Steveandblack – It would be a miracle if the Raiders found a way to put up 34 points. Lets hope!
September 9th, 2009 at 3:31 pm
Our AFL Uniform this season. Includes decals of the #95 for Marquis Cooper.
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September 9th, 2009 at 3:32 pm
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September 9th, 2009 at 3:32 pm
Helmet: http://static.nfl.com/static/content/public/image/getty/2009/09000d5d80ffd276_gallery_600.jpg
September 9th, 2009 at 3:33 pm
If Seymour wants a promise that we will not franchise him next year, then we need to get our pick back and offer NE a 3rd or 4th rounder for a rental player.
September 9th, 2009 at 3:33 pm
I honestly don’t think Merriman is all that good without the juice and a bum knee so I don’t care if he plays or not. Hes scrap metal.
September 9th, 2009 at 3:33 pm
I wouldn’t care if he went to jail or got suspended and missed the 1st game I would welcome it and I love what’s going on with the other teams in our division they’re going through what we’ve been going through forever the only thing im mad about is supposedly marshall and the broncos are talking extension
September 9th, 2009 at 3:33 pm
JWalker is washed up. He looked slow as hell during the preseason. His game was based on speed. He may catch a few balls this year but he will not be a game changer……unfortunately. The DHB era is here much sooner then we hoped.
September 9th, 2009 at 3:35 pm
well alright…we got some good-looking threads AND helmets!!!
Thankx 24
September 9th, 2009 at 3:35 pm
Madden is back, sort of
Posted by Mike Florio on September 9, 2009 2:44 PM ET
The most popular, albeit obvious, tongue-in-cheek response to the news of Brett Favre’s Second Annual Unretirement was that retired NBC analyst John Madden will now feel compelled to unretire, too.
As it turns out, he is. Sort of.
Madden will be back for another season of appearances on Sirius NFL Radio. Every Friday at 11:30 a.m. ET, the Hall of Fame coach, broadcaster, video-game tycoon, and noted hater of air travel (I resemble that remark) will visit with Adam Schein of The Sirius NFL Blitz.
(Barked Frank Caliendo in response to the news, with a arched eyebrows and a perpetual sneer, “That’s f–king great. Just as I was starting to nail my f–king impression of Jon F–king Gruden. F–k.”)
Madden will debut Thursday, September 10, given that it’s officially the first day of the regular season, an event that now gets the kind of treatment for which Madden lobbied years ago, when he suggested that the NFL should install bunting at all stadiums in Week One.
Meanwhile, the folks in Vegas have pegged the over/under on Brett Favre references during tomorrow’s segment at 14.
September 9th, 2009 at 3:37 pm
I think Murphy will own the side-lines and move the chains 4 us
September 9th, 2009 at 3:39 pm
I think we have a young team and its difficult to tell what we’re going to do. All I know is…McFadden/Bush need to be on the field if we are to be successful. I’ll even take Rankin over Fargas. He looks good.
September 9th, 2009 at 3:39 pm
Murphy 2 touch down catches in a 31-28 OT victory.
September 9th, 2009 at 3:41 pm
Source: Seymour thought he was getting a new deal in New England
Posted by Mike Florio on September 9, 2009 12:27 PM ET
So why hasn’t defensive lineman Richard Seymour reported for duty in Oakland?
Some think that he wants a new deal from a Raiders. A league source tells us that the root of the problem is that Seymour thought he was getting a new deal from the Patriots.
Per the source, Seymour believes that progress was being made toward an agreement that would have extended his stay with the Patriots beyond 2009. Then, seemingly out of nowhere, the Patriots shipped him to Oakland.
The source explains that there’s a chance that agent Eugene Parker led Seymour to believe that the talks toward a new deal had progressed farther than they actually had. Either way, the fact that Seymour went from thinking he was going to sign a retirement deal with the Patriots to learning that he’d been sent to the Raiders has contributed in large part to the confusion and frustration that has kept him from reporting to work at his new place of employment.
And it remains to be seen whether he ever will.
September 9th, 2009 at 3:42 pm
Charger 1st rd pick had to take the team out to dinner, a tradition. Bill came to $14,508.67.
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shutdown_corner/post/The-Chargers-are-hungry-and-Larry-English-is-buy?urn=nfl,188313
Could he have not made it the pre-game meal for MNF?
September 9th, 2009 at 3:42 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
September 9th, 2009 at 2:43 pm
Seymour needs to understand a few things:
#1 you’re a professional and this is a business
#2 it’s a done deal. no going back now
#3 New England didn’t want you
#4 the best way to get back at them is to turn in an impressive season with the Raiders and prove that you’re still one of the league’s best
if he doesn’t show up at all or simply plays the final year of the current deal with Oakland half hearted, it’ll prove that New England was right. He’s got nothing left and can’t help them reach another championship – that Wilfork and even Brace are better options.
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Idiot take. Seems the norm for you.
gosh..I hope he reads this. I mean, if he doesn’t, how will he ever know that he’s a professional, and this is business?
You have no idea how it works in business, do you?
Pick any business person…ANYONE.
I guarantee you that when confronted with something that are very unsatisfied with, they do not just state ‘oh well”.
Whether it be Gates, Buffet, Trump, Al Davis, Rich Gannon, your mailman..IF YOU TURN THEIR LIFE UPSIDE DOWN, AND INFORM THEM THEY’VE GONE FROM, as ESPN stated “the penthouse to the outhouse”, and they’re informed that they get to go home and tell their wife and kids that “Tuesday we’re moving to one of the worst cities in the country to play for the absolute worst owner in any sport, who’s running the most dysfunctional organization, bar none, of any sport, so say goodbye to all of your friends and schoolmates, and start packing.’…THE LAST THING THEY WILL DO IS JUST ACCEPT IT.
YOU might.
for that matter, that’s pretty much a guarantee..but those with a spine don’t usually just jump in the fetal position, and accept it.
September 9th, 2009 at 3:45 pm
If Seymour doesn’t report, Raiders will want their pick back
Posted by Mike Florio on September 9, 2009 12:01 PM ET
Wisely, the New England Patriots are taking the “nothing to see here” approach regarding defensive lineman Richard Seymour. In their view, Seymour is now a Raider and the Raiders’ first-round pick in 2011 has been tucked away into the cavernous vault beneath Gillette Stadium.
But despite reports suggesting that Seymour is now the Raiders’ problem, a league source tells us that the Raiders will want to retrieve their draft pick, if Seymour doesn’t show.
The trade hinges on Seymour reporting for work and passing a physical. If he doesn’t show up and then pass a physical, he doesn’t become the property of the Raiders.
The Patriots likely would take a different view of the situation, claiming that once the trade is accomplished getting Seymour to show up becomes the Raiders’ problem.
Still, we think the Raiders are right on this one. How can they be expected to pay for something that they never get?
Meanwhile, we’re told that the Raiders still don’t know whether or not Seymour will show up, more than three days after the trade was announced.
September 9th, 2009 at 3:47 pm
You wonder what this does to the psyche of the New England players. Clearly, Seymour went to management and based on his production, wanted a new contract since his was rapidly expiring. They told him they would work it out. They did. They shipped him here. Not only was Seymour completely caught off guard but that sends a nice message that none of their players are really wanted or respected. Seymour should just shut his fat gob, throw on some pads, and line the fook up. And take it out on the oppo. He’s wanted here.
September 9th, 2009 at 3:50 pm
rack-o-sh** #289 might be one of the dumbest posts ever. And that is saying something. That post is stupid, even for you peanut. Why don’t you put your lil’ Craptree jersey back on, and see if he has reported yet.
September 9th, 2009 at 3:51 pm
Atleast the Raiders are not stubborn enough to change course. They obviously saw that the DL could NOT be fixed by fundamentals. Atleast they reached out to address it B4 the season starts (barely).
September 9th, 2009 at 3:51 pm
Richofake/troll –
The Bay Area is one of the most beautiful areas in the world. I highly doubt Seymour’s going to move in next door to KK in Alameda, with the abundance of first-rate neighborhoods/cities in the Area.
And…his family doesn’t necessarily need to move from anywhere. Do you know where they stay now?
One of Seymour’s disagreements with the Cheater Belichick is that he wanted to stay nearer his home and family, and not workout @ Pats HQ during the off-season. Where do the Seymours live?
Once you brush-up on little details like that, come back and tell us where you think Seymour will buy his house out here.
September 9th, 2009 at 3:52 pm
Seymour has two options: report or retire. Pick one.
September 9th, 2009 at 3:53 pm
# 24 Says:
September 9th, 2009 at 3:45 pm
If Seymour doesn’t report, Raiders will want their pick back
Posted by Mike Florio on September 9, 2009 12:01 PM ET
Wisely, the New England Patriots are taking the “nothing to see here” approach regarding defensive lineman Richard Seymour. In their view, Seymour is now a Raider and the Raiders’ first-round pick in 2011 has been tucked away into the cavernous vault beneath Gillette Stadium.
But despite reports suggesting that Seymour is now the Raiders’ problem, a league source tells us that the Raiders will want to retrieve their draft pick, if Seymour doesn’t show.
The trade hinges on Seymour reporting for work and passing a physical. If he doesn’t show up and then pass a physical, he doesn’t become the property of the Raiders.
The Patriots likely would take a different view of the situation, claiming that once the trade is accomplished getting Seymour to show up becomes the Raiders’ problem.
Still, we think the Raiders are right on this one. How can they be expected to pay for something that they never get?
Meanwhile, we’re told that the Raiders still don’t know whether or not Seymour will show up, more than three days after the trade was announced.
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Exactly. The failure by Schefter and BSPN in reporting this is just their way of heightening the drama. To them it’s not hurting anyone to be a little misinformative.
September 9th, 2009 at 3:56 pm
The Seymours live in Charleston South Carolina. He went to Georgia. This is a long way off from Charleston, but at least it’s not freezing like Foxboro.
September 9th, 2009 at 3:58 pm
Just back from work and was kinda hoping it would be sorted by now.
September 9th, 2009 at 4:00 pm
HayesDaze37 Says:
September 9th, 2009 at 2:12 pm
Merriman?? What is he doing NOT indefinitely suspended already?
Whether or not that little Tequila shot was drunk, he had NO legal right to physically obstruct her from leaving his premises. Whether or not there were marks on her body…she wanted to leave (evidenced by her calling the police, and his admitting it)…and he precluded her from doing so. That is just semantics away from a kidnapping charge. He should be suspended already.
Regardless…Merriman’s in deep, and he’s ONCE AGAIN tarnishing the image of the Chargers and the NFL. His own team’s sick of him now…how are they going to stick with him if he can’t play like he used to after his injury, with no ‘roids to help him boost up?
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And you would be wrong.
See, there is a very popular ongoing commercial going on that says “FRIENDS DON’T LET FRIENDS DRIVE DRUNK”.
In those it shows people physically restraining someone from getting in a car..PHYSICALLY. See, those ‘drunk people’?? They usually end up killing innocent people..so the idea is..WHATEVER IT TAKES, DO NOT LET THEM GET IN THAT 5000 LB MISSLE AND TAKE OFF.
There are literally hundreds of THOUSANDS of people who wish they had physically restrained someone who was obviously inebriated, but they didn’t, and those people either killed innocent people, themselves, or both.
If you see a loved one, drunk, trying to drive, and you just allow it? Shame on you dude..that crash is ON YOU.
Now, back to the case. Yes, yes, I know..he’s a Charger, so you want to whine about him being guilty..except..the little bop stated she was STRANGLED…
How odd that she had ZERO MARKS ON HER..isn’t it?
now, like it or not, hearsay is just that.
YOU HAVE TO PROVE YOUR CASE..him saying she was drunk, and he didn’t want to let her drive, where this DRUNK PERSON GOT ALL PISSED OFF and called the cops sounds a lot more feasible than her claims of him choking her, where she doesn’t even have a single mark on her..AND NEITHER DOES HE.
What? Someone’s choking you, and there isn’t even a single scratch on his arm? his face? nothing?
So..no marks on him…no marks on her…and the verdict..is?????
September 9th, 2009 at 4:01 pm
Brave,if your still on-line.I couldn’t find anything out about the Monday night game on five.Will try again tomorrow and let you know.
September 9th, 2009 at 4:11 pm
Well Einstein (no offense Real Einstein!) — No marks doesn’t necessarily mean no crime. People are threatened into submission all the time. Crimes are committed that way every day.
If Tequila made a false 911 call…and she was intoxicated…the responding officers should’ve arrested her for the false report, and maybe D&D, disturbing the peace, any number of things.
They chose to do ONE thing…arrest Merriman, not Tequila, based on what they had to go on, and what they saw before them.
And, once again…whether she was drunk or not has NO BEARING on his right to restrain her, unless he KNEW she was about to harm someone. Merriman is no Nostradamus.
Richofade — You’ve got to slam everything the Raiders fan says in here…even if it’s not Raiders related. That’s kinda pathetic and lonely of you, to try and argue over every little thing in the world. Very lonely of you, and very obviously so. I’m glad you’re as miserable as you seem to be, actually. You and Merriman deserve each other.
September 9th, 2009 at 4:13 pm
I hope tomorrow brings in Seymour.
Later!
September 9th, 2009 at 4:13 pm
TV Schedule REF:braveheartraider
Sky will air live games at 6:00 p.m. and 9:00 p.m. every Sunday night through the 2009 NFL season, as well as providing coverage of the Saturday and Thursday night games that take place during the final seven weeks of the season.
From early January, Sky will show all the live postseason action, with back-to-back games on the Saturday and Sunday of Wild Card and Divisional play-off weekend. Sunday January 24th sees live coverage of both the AFC and NFC Championship games, followed a fortnight later with Super Bowl XLIV live from Miami, Florida on Sunday February 7th. Sky will also have coverage of the Pro Bowl, also from Miami, on Sunday January 31st.
In addition to their coverage of live NFL fixtures, Sky will broadcast NFL Network programming six days per week, including NFL Total Access, the NFL Network’s flagship news program which keeps fans up-to-date with all the latest news from around the league.
Channel Five’s live coverage of the Sunday Night Football games kicks off at the start of the regular-season. Throughout the year Five will carry coverage of Sunday Night Football, with Mike Carlson and Nat Coombs hosting the action.
Hope that helps Brave.
September 9th, 2009 at 4:14 pm
In other news…
Young thinks Crabtree doesn’t want to play in San Fran
Posted by Mike Florio on September 9, 2009 6:51 PM ET
Hall of Fame quarterback Steve Young, who starred for the 49ers in the late 1980s and early 1990s, said on Wednesday night’s SportsCenter that Crabtree possibly doesn’t want to play for Young’s former team.
Though it was difficult to tell whether Young was speculating or pontificating, he’s the first person to raise the possibility that the lingering impasse might not be about money.
Part of the problem, as Young explained it, is the quality of the quarterbacks in San Francisco, and the potential impact of a mediocre passing attack on Crabtree’s off-field earning potential.
So stay tuned. Just as it appeared that Crabtree might be getting ready to cave, Young has painted a much less flattering picture for the Niners.
September 9th, 2009 at 4:14 pm
Seymour Wants More Guranteed Money Than Offered
September 9th, 2009 · No Comments
The Oakland Raiders are already getting frustrated with defensive end Richard Seymour and are holding there stance on a three year deal. Seymour, is reportedly asking for more guranteed money than what the Raiders want to give him due to Seymour turning 30 in a couple of weeks and the amount of games that he has missed the past couple of seasons.
September 9th, 2009 at 4:15 pm
And stop all the cut n’ pastes, or you’ll be in trouble with that guy in TX who hates long posts! Go start your own blog if you want.
How’s Crabtree working out??
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah…
Whew…
Crabtr…Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha…
Wow…
Crab…Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha…
September 9th, 2009 at 4:15 pm
HayesDaze37 Says:
September 9th, 2009 at 3:51 pm
Richofake/troll –
The Bay Area is one of the most beautiful areas in the world. I highly doubt Seymour’s going to move in next door to KK in Alameda, with the abundance of first-rate neighborhoods/cities in the Area.
And…his family doesn’t necessarily need to move from anywhere. Do you know where they stay now?
One of Seymour’s disagreements with the Cheater Belichick is that he wanted to stay nearer his home and family, and not workout @ Pats HQ during the off-season. Where do the Seymours live?
Once you brush-up on little details like that, come back and tell us where you think Seymour will buy his house out here.
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You missed the point.
Wow..what were the chances?
Raiderrockstar stated that he should just UNDERSTAND HE’S A PROFESSIONAL, AND IT’S BUSINESS.
I clearly stated that NO PROFESSIONAL WOULD EVER JUST MEEKLY GO ALONG, IMMEDIATELY, WITHOUT MAKING IT VERY CLEAR THEY’RE DISSATISSFIED.
Now, like it or not, Oakland is the armpit of the country. Yeah, no kidding Einstein, he’s not going to live in Oakland..driving through it to get to the games will be trama enough for his family….
And his family doesn’t “need” to move? Again, you couldn’t get the point if he nailed you between the eyes.
Oh..I get it. You couldn’t address the point..could you? of course not. Makes sense. Why change now?
September 9th, 2009 at 4:15 pm
On April 22, 2008, the Chiefs traded Allen to the Vikings in exchange for a first round pick, which they used to select OT Branden Albert, and two third round picks and swapped sixth round picks in the 2008 NFL Draft.
Wow!!! That was WAY more expensive then what we paid and we are getting the better DL player in Seymore.
The Vikings then signed Allen to a six year contract, six-year, $72.36 million
Ouch!!! Is this what it will take. Fortunately I hear that they are working on a 3 yr deal. Im confident that Seymore will change his tune and like the Raiders once he gets here.
September 9th, 2009 at 4:16 pm
HayesDaze37 Says:
September 9th, 2009 at 4:11 pm
They chose to do ONE thing…arrest Merriman, not Tequila, based on what they had to go on, and what they saw before them.
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Actually, I saw on the news the police officer in charge reporting that they had to arrest Merriman because, and only because, Tequila had placed him under citizens arrest. That is the law. They didn’t see anything wrong with her, other than her being intoxicated.
September 9th, 2009 at 4:18 pm
This is probably the best analysis I’ve seen, to date, of Monday night’s Raiders-Chargers game:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UqVfKJwQ63I&feature=related
September 9th, 2009 at 4:20 pm
I heard on ESPN that Seymour and family live in Mass. And that his kids just started school there.
September 9th, 2009 at 4:20 pm
Chris……LOL !!!
September 9th, 2009 at 4:23 pm
I’m out, Nation.
If Seymour stalls anymore, it means he’s on the juice.
If you guys keep doing what you do, it means some of you are on crack.
Be good.
September 9th, 2009 at 4:23 pm
# big chill Says:
September 9th, 2009 at 4:14 pm
Seymour Wants More Guranteed Money Than Offered
September 9th, 2009 · No Comments
The Oakland Raiders are already getting frustrated with defensive end Richard Seymour and are holding there stance on a three year deal. Seymour, is reportedly asking for more guranteed money than what the Raiders want to give him due to Seymour turning 30 in a couple of weeks and the amount of games that he has missed the past couple of seasons.
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Got a link?
September 9th, 2009 at 4:24 pm
Morrison is gonna come like a beast this year!!!! run or pass. You heard it here!!!!
September 9th, 2009 at 4:26 pm
http://www.profootballcentral.com
September 9th, 2009 at 4:26 pm
Anyway, just pay him Al… pay him and get him in uniform for Monday night.
September 9th, 2009 at 4:27 pm
HayesDaze37 Says:
September 9th, 2009 at 4:11 pm
Well Einstein (no offense Real Einstein!) — No marks doesn’t necessarily mean no crime. People are threatened into submission all the time. Crimes are committed that way every day.
Richochet: EXCEPT when someone “claims” they’ve been HELD DOWN AND STRANGLED. She didn’t say he “threatened her” did she? Big difference. But hey, thanks for the update on how some “everyday crimes’ could be committed. Except that’s not what happened here, is it?
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If Tequila made a false 911 call…and she was intoxicated…the responding officers should’ve arrested her for the false report, and maybe D&D, disturbing the peace, any number of things.
Richochet: Wrong, again. Almost never is a filing a false police report filed until AFTER ALL THE INVESTIGATION is done. Even the dumbest, most outlandish claims are still filed, reviewed, and then decided on. Oh, and no, you can’t get arrested for being intoxicated at a private residence unless the other person presses charges, or you’re a public nuisance.
Geez dude, how the hell could the arriving officer decide if she was lying? Asinine comment.
You’re new at this, aren’t you?
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They chose to do ONE thing…arrest Merriman, not Tequila, based on what they had to go on, and what they saw before them.
Richochet: LMFAO..again..WRONG. See, the detectives reported TO LIVE CAMERA’S that they SAW NOTHING ON TEQUILA..no marks..nothing..that warranted them arresting Merriman. SHE HAD TO FILE A CITIZEN’S ARREST AGAINST HIM before they took him downtown.
You’re making this very easy..
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And, once again…whether she was drunk or not has NO BEARING on his right to restrain her, unless he KNEW she was about to harm someone. Merriman is no Nostradamus.
Richochet: Again..see above about ‘FRIENDS NOT LETTING FRIENDS DRIVE DRUNK’..IF SHE WOULD HAVE DRIVEN, AND RUN INTO A FAMILY AND KILLED THEM, and Merriman did nothing to stop her? Think about it..well…TRY and think about it.
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Richofade — You’ve got to slam everything the Raiders fan says in here…even if it’s not Raiders related. That’s kinda pathetic and lonely of you, to try and argue over every little thing in the world. Very lonely of you, and very obviously so. I’m glad you’re as miserable as you seem to be, actually. You and Merriman deserve each other.
Richochet: Awww..look..widdle hayes is all sensitive.
How sweet is that?
Tell you what..I’ll send you a lollipop and you can sit and ponder your silly comments, and I’ll promise not to hurt your widdle feelings..at least for the rest of this hour.
September 9th, 2009 at 4:28 pm
Richofade/troll — You mean you needed all those words to reiterate two whole points you made?
Those points are so obvious, even RRS used them in a in an (obviously) overly-understated SARDONIC fashion in his post…the one you’re so exhaustively trying to ridicule.
Now you’ve got me kinda defending RRS, and he can deal with you on his own (even with his oft-closed mind). It’s just funny what you’ll reach at to create a debate, troll.
And, when the debate doesn’t really spark, or you get figuratively whipped, you fade away. Or is it you…
RichoFADE away?
September 9th, 2009 at 4:28 pm
Thx Big Chill.
September 9th, 2009 at 4:29 pm
Well,here’s hoping that the deals signed when I come back tomorrow.
September 9th, 2009 at 4:29 pm
For those who never read Gannon’s comments they are well worth the read. Raiderbeat.com
And I’ll add that getting leadership seems to be just what Cable and Al are trying to get over here in terms of personnel and Cables constant focus on getting leaders in the locker room.
(imho …Burgess was no leader, Kelly never learned how to be one, Nnam is a leader but seems to not get it across to his teammates at least not yet, etc. JR must become that leader).
Raiderbeat.com>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Former Raiders quarterback Rich Gannon weighed in on the team’s plight in light of the negativity surrounding their trade for defensive lineman Richard Seymour and other recent goings-on. The interview was conducted by KHTK radio in Sacramento:
On if it’s tough for him to see what’s going on in Oakland, the team he most associates his playing career with:
“Yeah, no, listen. I want nothing more than to see them do well. It’s just hard for me to watch. And I can’t say honestly that I’m surprised. I can’t look at it and say well gee, that’s a shocker to me. It’s really not. I can’t say that I’m surprised by anything I see or hear that comes out of that place. I just think that – listen – I’ve been criticized for being what some would refer to as overly critical, but listen, it’s clear when you look at the football team, there’s not enough…they certainly have players, but you look at each level of the organization, I just don’t know if there’s enough leadership there and I think that’s what holds them back.”
On how the Raiders organization seems to be getting worse year in and year out:
“All you have to do is look around the league and see teams that are successful and I think they have leadership at every level. I’m talking about the owner, I’m talking about the general manager. I’m talking about player personnel. I’m talking about the coaching staff and I’m talking about the players. I just think it’s really important when you put together a team certainly to keep that in mind. But also, in each of those meeting rooms – I’m talking about a defensive line, the linebackers, the secondary, the offensive line – you have to have a dominant personality, a leader that is going to make a difference, who is going to demand excellence from his teammates. And again, when I was there, that was the hardest part. That was a struggle for me. Listen, I just wanted to come to work, do my job, focus in on what I had to do, but I felt like I had to worry about what everybody else was doing so we could accomplish our goals. And that’s what could be frustrating. Because listen, it’s tough enough business, but when you’re having to worry about guys being on time, or guys showing up, or guys knowing what they’re supposed to do. Then it becomes – then it’s not fun anymore.”
September 9th, 2009 at 4:30 pm
steveandblack Says:
September 9th, 2009 at 4:16 pm
HayesDaze37 Says:
September 9th, 2009 at 4:11 pm
They chose to do ONE thing…arrest Merriman, not Tequila, based on what they had to go on, and what they saw before them.
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Actually, I saw on the news the police officer in charge reporting that they had to arrest Merriman because, and only because, Tequila had placed him under citizens arrest. That is the law. They didn’t see anything wrong with her, other than her being intoxicated.
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Bingo!!
Hayes is confused.
Someone help her please.
September 9th, 2009 at 4:30 pm
So little Rac -o- lamb – You tried and convicted Cable on hearsay, no evidence yet presented, but you defend Meriman after he’s been officially arrested? Something smells funny here and I think it’s you.
What’s your deal anyway? haven’t you learned yet that nothing you can cut or paste is going to sway one person here? Do you think anyone here is going to suddenly say, “Gosh, that little guy was right! I’m going to become a niner fan just like him! I love chardonnay!!” LOL
Little Ricky, I fart in your general direction. I will wave my private parts at your Auntie. I can just see you now; sitting in a Starbucks somewhere down in the Castro, sipping a skinny latte’, cardigan sweater tied around your neck as you cut and paste furiously on your pink laptop… You are pathetic… And apparently a hypocrite as well… lol
September 9th, 2009 at 4:31 pm
steveandblack Says:
September 9th, 2009 at 4:28 pm
Thx Big Chill.
no problem, not sure how much of it is true but it sounds like that is right. no they just need to get him signed i don’t think i’ve worked at all today keep checking to see if dude has showed up to alameda yet
September 9th, 2009 at 4:33 pm
Hopefully Seymore doesnt pout too long.
Hey Al, Fedex him a box of tissue and a couple of plane Tix. LETS GO ALREADY!!! We need you Monday. JetBlue has a direct flt from BOS to OAK. He can watch ESPN and NFLN all the way here.
September 9th, 2009 at 4:37 pm
No Mas Diamante Says:
September 9th, 2009 at 4:30 pm
So little Rac -o- lamb – You tried and convicted Cable on hearsay, no evidence yet presented, but you defend Meriman after he’s been officially arrested? Something smells funny here and I think it’s you.
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What did I tell you about asking for permission to speak?
You ever wonder why nothing you say gets any comments?
Ever?
Guess you have to ask yourself..”Does everyone just agree with what I say, or am I just boring as hell?”
Why do I know you haven’t figured out the answer?
September 9th, 2009 at 4:39 pm
Terrapin #322
Theres’s nobody who has ANY authority but Al Davis. Therefore the players cannot be held accountable by the coaches. Therefore it becomes a Cash the Check situation for everybody, and nobody gives a fk.
September 9th, 2009 at 4:40 pm
From my years following the Raiders I have only known things to be this hush hush from everybody involved only when there are some kind of contract negotiations going on. Its like the Raiders demand all sides be silent.
September 9th, 2009 at 4:40 pm
Did you put sprinkles on your latte rack o lamb?
September 9th, 2009 at 4:40 pm
And Merriman could’ve pressed the same charges. Instead, he just “lets” them arrest him quietly? Hmmm. There’s a LOT fishy about this, and Tequila knows too much!
Oh yeah…NOBODY EVER GETS ARRESTED IN A PRIVATE RESIDENCE. Wow, what a stupid statement.
And, yes…the cops are required to arrest someone if what APPEARS to be a legitimate charge is levied against them by the arresting citizen. And, they DO have latitude to decide whether or not a complaint has any validity in the first place. It doesn’t need to be overwhelming evidence, it needs simply to be a preponderence.
I’d bet money Richofake, if I knew you’d pay your debt, that the cops made the right arrest the other morning. Merriman’s in trouble.
September 9th, 2009 at 4:41 pm
Seymour will get paid and will start Monday Night. In Al I trust.
September 9th, 2009 at 4:41 pm
Definitely negotiations going on.
Obvious to me Seymour’s agent is orchestrating this stuff about Seymour not wanting to come to Oakland to goad the Raiders into signing him to an extension quickly and on terms most favorable to the player. Don’t break the bank, Al, but try to get this guy in here for Monday’s game. We need him.
September 9th, 2009 at 4:42 pm
Kell that can all change. It changed under Gannon. If nothing else the players should be accountable to themselves and each other and the product they put out on the field. With the right locker room and the right players that can happen. It has happen.
Thats what Cable is trying to create and focused on in the offseason – getting some leaders in the locker room.
September 9th, 2009 at 4:43 pm
… for Oakland, not New England.
September 9th, 2009 at 4:44 pm
Hypocrite Ricky. You are wrong I get lots of complementary emails for my poem. Want to see it again?
September 9th, 2009 at 4:45 pm
All right…KK’s back. Maybe he’ll slap a few trolls around. Carry that Raiders torch, KK!!
Richohate needs all the attention he can get. With either of his aliases.
Later
It’s a great day to be a Raiders fan! Isn’t it?
September 9th, 2009 at 4:50 pm
That’s what I thought…
September 9th, 2009 at 4:53 pm
told ya..I’ll school your sorry inept ass later, Hayes.
Oh..THAT’S RIGHT..you’re the one who stated I must be Kawakami? Or Jerry??
Again, thanks for the props..and my apologies now for me torching ya later.
September 9th, 2009 at 4:56 pm
Terrapin
You’re looking for inmates to run the assylum? Or you’re looking for the employees to run the company and set the standards
So naive. Why have coaches or management. Sucessful organizations win year in and year out. Players come and go.
Gannon’s tried to tell yas
Sapp has tried to tell ya
Moss has tried to tell ya
Gbril Wilson has tried to tell ya.
But you’re not having it, are ya?
September 9th, 2009 at 4:57 pm
# Chris in NY Says:
September 9th, 2009 at 4:41 pm
Definitely negotiations going on.
Obvious to me Seymour’s agent is orchestrating this stuff about Seymour not wanting to come to Oakland to goad the Raiders into signing him to an extension quickly and on terms most favorable to the player. Don’t break the bank, Al, but try to get this guy in here for Monday’s game. We need him.
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Something tells me that if Big Sey gets here by 4pm game day, they’ll fit him for pads, give him a hat, and line him up against the lame Dischargers.
September 9th, 2009 at 4:59 pm
If they are far apart on a contrac then it doesnt sound like this Seymore – Oak situation is going to resolved anytime soon. Seymore obviously have no quarrels about sitting out.
At first I didnt uinderstand the timing. Why would this break only a few days before Gameday. I get it now. Missing gamechecks will motivate Seymore. Good job Al! Way to squeze the testis.
September 9th, 2009 at 5:05 pm
If Seymour is not in Alameda in time for tomorrows practice, cut bait on the deal….
September 9th, 2009 at 5:09 pm
Of course the coaches must be respected and be leaders. Same goes for the owner. You aren’t saying anything new here. But so must the players be held accountable. Its all in the organization. No one would disagree with that.
Cable is leading and he’s trying build a locker room of leaders. Its has to start somewhere.
September 9th, 2009 at 5:13 pm
If Gruden and Gannon can do it then it can be done. Al didn’t magically disappear when they were here.
September 9th, 2009 at 5:18 pm
We’re going to the Superbowl!
September 9th, 2009 at 5:25 pm
w00t! Anyone think the 100-to-1 odds of Oakland winning the Superbowl will stick with Seymour on the roster? If so, I’m laying down $500 on it.
September 9th, 2009 at 5:29 pm
I’ve got $1000 I can burn for the pleasure of living the dream.
Murphy, rookie of the year.
Raiders, #1 in rushing
Jamarcus, most improved
But first and most importantly, another Monday night victory!
September 9th, 2009 at 5:37 pm
Terrapin… post 329… bingo. Also, I would hope that Seymour’s agent isn’t trying to publicly “goad” the Raiders into signing his client quickly and on more favorable terms. He’s dealing with Al Davis, who won’t be “goaded” into anything.
September 9th, 2009 at 5:43 pm
They are saying its a one team race on NFL Network.
September 9th, 2009 at 5:45 pm
The AFC West that is.
September 9th, 2009 at 9:33 pm
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