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It’s a relatively safe assumption that the public silence from from both Richard Seymour and the Raiders is because they’re talking about a contract.

That being the case, Al Davis can expect to write another gigantic check to go along with the sums guaranteed within the past three years to Nnamdi Asomugha, JaMarcus Russell, Darren McFadden, Darrius Heyward-Bey, Tommy Kelly and Shane Lechler. The guaranteed money on those players alone comes to just under $120 million.

Davis also spent $16.5 million for 24 games worth of Gibril Wilson and DeAngelo Hall and $12 million last season alone on Javon Walker.

Those, as well as other industry standards, are the figures agent Eugene Parker will be looking at, and not the Forbes magazine study which says the Raiders are the 32nd ranked franchise in terms of value.

Within the past offseason, Asomugha became the NFL’s highest paid cornerback (three years, $45.3 million, $28.5 guaranteed). Lechler became the highest paid punter (four years, $16 million, $9 million guaranteed) and Isaiah Ekejiuba the highest paid non-kicker who plays exclusively special teams (three years, $5.4 million, $2.45 million this season).

So it’s clear Davis is willing to pay not only the going rate, but rise above it to reel in a player he truly wants.

It’s safe to assume Parker will point out Seymour is a more decorated defensive lineman than Asomugha is as a cornerback based on five Pro Bowl berths and three Super Bowl rings. The starting point will be to make Seymour the NFL’s highest paid lineman, and he’ll settle for somewhere in the neighborhood.

Defensive tackles Albert Haynesworth received $41.6 million in guaranteed money from the Washington Redskins this past offseason, a deal that maxes at more than $100 million should it be carried to its conclusion (admittedly unlikely). Defensive ends with the most guaranteed money over the past two years were Dwight Freeney of Indianapolis (six years, $72 million, $30 million guaranteed) and Jared Allen of Minnesota (six years, $73 million, $31 million guaranteed).

With the potential of uncapped years starting in 2010 if no collective bargaining agreement is reached, making the numbers work under the cap is an issue for another day (or not at all) beyond this season.

Seymour could agree to take less money on a short-term deal, say two years, if the Raiders promised not to use the franchise tag, although in that case Oakland would be renting a player for two years for the cost of a first-round draft pick.

Or Oakland could simply play hardball and insist he play this year for his $3.7 million or be put on a reserve/left squad list which would make Seymour inactive without pay and push the final year of his contract to next year, starting the process all over again.

The other possibility, depending on the terms of the deal between the teams, is that the whole deal is voided, with Seymour going back to New England to finish his contract.

Note: No practice or media availability scheduled for the Raiders today.

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Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer

  • exlaraiderseasonticketholder

    I hope tomorrow brings in Seymour.

    Later!

  • neilb

    TV Schedule REF:braveheartraider

    Sky will air live games at 6:00 p.m. and 9:00 p.m. every Sunday night through the 2009 NFL season, as well as providing coverage of the Saturday and Thursday night games that take place during the final seven weeks of the season.

    From early January, Sky will show all the live postseason action, with back-to-back games on the Saturday and Sunday of Wild Card and Divisional play-off weekend. Sunday January 24th sees live coverage of both the AFC and NFC Championship games, followed a fortnight later with Super Bowl XLIV live from Miami, Florida on Sunday February 7th. Sky will also have coverage of the Pro Bowl, also from Miami, on Sunday January 31st.

    In addition to their coverage of live NFL fixtures, Sky will broadcast NFL Network programming six days per week, including NFL Total Access, the NFL Network’s flagship news program which keeps fans up-to-date with all the latest news from around the league.

    Channel Five’s live coverage of the Sunday Night Football games kicks off at the start of the regular-season. Throughout the year Five will carry coverage of Sunday Night Football, with Mike Carlson and Nat Coombs hosting the action.

    Hope that helps Brave.

  • steveandblack

    In other news…

    Young thinks Crabtree doesn’t want to play in San Fran
    Posted by Mike Florio on September 9, 2009 6:51 PM ET

    Hall of Fame quarterback Steve Young, who starred for the 49ers in the late 1980s and early 1990s, said on Wednesday night’s SportsCenter that Crabtree possibly doesn’t want to play for Young’s former team.

    Though it was difficult to tell whether Young was speculating or pontificating, he’s the first person to raise the possibility that the lingering impasse might not be about money.

    Part of the problem, as Young explained it, is the quality of the quarterbacks in San Francisco, and the potential impact of a mediocre passing attack on Crabtree’s off-field earning potential.

    So stay tuned. Just as it appeared that Crabtree might be getting ready to cave, Young has painted a much less flattering picture for the Niners.

  • big chill

    Seymour Wants More Guranteed Money Than Offered
    September 9th, 2009 · No Comments
    The Oakland Raiders are already getting frustrated with defensive end Richard Seymour and are holding there stance on a three year deal. Seymour, is reportedly asking for more guranteed money than what the Raiders want to give him due to Seymour turning 30 in a couple of weeks and the amount of games that he has missed the past couple of seasons.

  • HayesDaze37

    And stop all the cut n’ pastes, or you’ll be in trouble with that guy in TX who hates long posts! Go start your own blog if you want.

    How’s Crabtree working out??

    Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah…

    Whew…

    Crabtr…Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha…

    Wow…

    Crab…Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha…

  • Richochet

    HayesDaze37 Says:
    September 9th, 2009 at 3:51 pm
    Richofake/troll –

    The Bay Area is one of the most beautiful areas in the world. I highly doubt Seymour’s going to move in next door to KK in Alameda, with the abundance of first-rate neighborhoods/cities in the Area.

    And…his family doesn’t necessarily need to move from anywhere. Do you know where they stay now?

    One of Seymour’s disagreements with the Cheater Belichick is that he wanted to stay nearer his home and family, and not workout @ Pats HQ during the off-season. Where do the Seymours live?

    Once you brush-up on little details like that, come back and tell us where you think Seymour will buy his house out here.
    ———————
    You missed the point.
    Wow..what were the chances?

    Raiderrockstar stated that he should just UNDERSTAND HE’S A PROFESSIONAL, AND IT’S BUSINESS.

    I clearly stated that NO PROFESSIONAL WOULD EVER JUST MEEKLY GO ALONG, IMMEDIATELY, WITHOUT MAKING IT VERY CLEAR THEY’RE DISSATISSFIED.

    Now, like it or not, Oakland is the armpit of the country. Yeah, no kidding Einstein, he’s not going to live in Oakland..driving through it to get to the games will be trama enough for his family….

    And his family doesn’t “need” to move? Again, you couldn’t get the point if he nailed you between the eyes.

    Oh..I get it. You couldn’t address the point..could you? of course not. Makes sense. Why change now?

  • raidertay

    On April 22, 2008, the Chiefs traded Allen to the Vikings in exchange for a first round pick, which they used to select OT Branden Albert, and two third round picks and swapped sixth round picks in the 2008 NFL Draft.

    Wow!!! That was WAY more expensive then what we paid and we are getting the better DL player in Seymore.

    The Vikings then signed Allen to a six year contract, six-year, $72.36 million

    Ouch!!! Is this what it will take. Fortunately I hear that they are working on a 3 yr deal. Im confident that Seymore will change his tune and like the Raiders once he gets here.

  • steveandblack

    HayesDaze37 Says:
    September 9th, 2009 at 4:11 pm

    They chose to do ONE thing…arrest Merriman, not Tequila, based on what they had to go on, and what they saw before them.
    ————————–

    Actually, I saw on the news the police officer in charge reporting that they had to arrest Merriman because, and only because, Tequila had placed him under citizens arrest. That is the law. They didn’t see anything wrong with her, other than her being intoxicated.

  • Chris in NY

    This is probably the best analysis I’ve seen, to date, of Monday night’s Raiders-Chargers game:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UqVfKJwQ63I&feature=related

  • I heard on ESPN that Seymour and family live in Mass. And that his kids just started school there.

  • neilb

    Chris……LOL !!!

  • LA to TheBay

    I’m out, Nation.

    If Seymour stalls anymore, it means he’s on the juice.

    If you guys keep doing what you do, it means some of you are on crack.

    Be good.

  • steveandblack

    # big chill Says:
    September 9th, 2009 at 4:14 pm

    Seymour Wants More Guranteed Money Than Offered
    September 9th, 2009 · No Comments
    The Oakland Raiders are already getting frustrated with defensive end Richard Seymour and are holding there stance on a three year deal. Seymour, is reportedly asking for more guranteed money than what the Raiders want to give him due to Seymour turning 30 in a couple of weeks and the amount of games that he has missed the past couple of seasons.
    —————————————–

    Got a link?

  • Raider E

    Morrison is gonna come like a beast this year!!!! run or pass. You heard it here!!!!

  • big chill
  • steveandblack

    Anyway, just pay him Al… pay him and get him in uniform for Monday night.

  • Richochet

    HayesDaze37 Says:
    September 9th, 2009 at 4:11 pm
    Well Einstein (no offense Real Einstein!) — No marks doesn’t necessarily mean no crime. People are threatened into submission all the time. Crimes are committed that way every day.

    Richochet: EXCEPT when someone “claims” they’ve been HELD DOWN AND STRANGLED. She didn’t say he “threatened her” did she? Big difference. But hey, thanks for the update on how some “everyday crimes’ could be committed. Except that’s not what happened here, is it?

    ############################################
    If Tequila made a false 911 call…and she was intoxicated…the responding officers should’ve arrested her for the false report, and maybe D&D, disturbing the peace, any number of things.

    Richochet: Wrong, again. Almost never is a filing a false police report filed until AFTER ALL THE INVESTIGATION is done. Even the dumbest, most outlandish claims are still filed, reviewed, and then decided on. Oh, and no, you can’t get arrested for being intoxicated at a private residence unless the other person presses charges, or you’re a public nuisance.
    Geez dude, how the hell could the arriving officer decide if she was lying? Asinine comment.
    You’re new at this, aren’t you?

    #################################

    They chose to do ONE thing…arrest Merriman, not Tequila, based on what they had to go on, and what they saw before them.

    Richochet: LMFAO..again..WRONG. See, the detectives reported TO LIVE CAMERA’S that they SAW NOTHING ON TEQUILA..no marks..nothing..that warranted them arresting Merriman. SHE HAD TO FILE A CITIZEN’S ARREST AGAINST HIM before they took him downtown.

    You’re making this very easy..
    ############

    And, once again…whether she was drunk or not has NO BEARING on his right to restrain her, unless he KNEW she was about to harm someone. Merriman is no Nostradamus.

    Richochet: Again..see above about ‘FRIENDS NOT LETTING FRIENDS DRIVE DRUNK’..IF SHE WOULD HAVE DRIVEN, AND RUN INTO A FAMILY AND KILLED THEM, and Merriman did nothing to stop her? Think about it..well…TRY and think about it.
    ###########################

    Richofade — You’ve got to slam everything the Raiders fan says in here…even if it’s not Raiders related. That’s kinda pathetic and lonely of you, to try and argue over every little thing in the world. Very lonely of you, and very obviously so. I’m glad you’re as miserable as you seem to be, actually. You and Merriman deserve each other.

    Richochet: Awww..look..widdle hayes is all sensitive.
    How sweet is that?
    Tell you what..I’ll send you a lollipop and you can sit and ponder your silly comments, and I’ll promise not to hurt your widdle feelings..at least for the rest of this hour.

  • HayesDaze37

    Richofade/troll — You mean you needed all those words to reiterate two whole points you made?

    Those points are so obvious, even RRS used them in a in an (obviously) overly-understated SARDONIC fashion in his post…the one you’re so exhaustively trying to ridicule.

    Now you’ve got me kinda defending RRS, and he can deal with you on his own (even with his oft-closed mind). It’s just funny what you’ll reach at to create a debate, troll.

    And, when the debate doesn’t really spark, or you get figuratively whipped, you fade away. Or is it you…

    RichoFADE away?

  • steveandblack

    Thx Big Chill.

  • neilb

    Well,here’s hoping that the deals signed when I come back tomorrow.

  • Terrapin

    For those who never read Gannon’s comments they are well worth the read. Raiderbeat.com

    And I’ll add that getting leadership seems to be just what Cable and Al are trying to get over here in terms of personnel and Cables constant focus on getting leaders in the locker room.

    (imho …Burgess was no leader, Kelly never learned how to be one, Nnam is a leader but seems to not get it across to his teammates at least not yet, etc. JR must become that leader).

    Raiderbeat.com>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

    Former Raiders quarterback Rich Gannon weighed in on the team’s plight in light of the negativity surrounding their trade for defensive lineman Richard Seymour and other recent goings-on. The interview was conducted by KHTK radio in Sacramento:

    On if it’s tough for him to see what’s going on in Oakland, the team he most associates his playing career with:
    “Yeah, no, listen. I want nothing more than to see them do well. It’s just hard for me to watch. And I can’t say honestly that I’m surprised. I can’t look at it and say well gee, that’s a shocker to me. It’s really not. I can’t say that I’m surprised by anything I see or hear that comes out of that place. I just think that – listen – I’ve been criticized for being what some would refer to as overly critical, but listen, it’s clear when you look at the football team, there’s not enough…they certainly have players, but you look at each level of the organization, I just don’t know if there’s enough leadership there and I think that’s what holds them back.”

    On how the Raiders organization seems to be getting worse year in and year out:
    “All you have to do is look around the league and see teams that are successful and I think they have leadership at every level. I’m talking about the owner, I’m talking about the general manager. I’m talking about player personnel. I’m talking about the coaching staff and I’m talking about the players. I just think it’s really important when you put together a team certainly to keep that in mind. But also, in each of those meeting rooms – I’m talking about a defensive line, the linebackers, the secondary, the offensive line – you have to have a dominant personality, a leader that is going to make a difference, who is going to demand excellence from his teammates. And again, when I was there, that was the hardest part. That was a struggle for me. Listen, I just wanted to come to work, do my job, focus in on what I had to do, but I felt like I had to worry about what everybody else was doing so we could accomplish our goals. And that’s what could be frustrating. Because listen, it’s tough enough business, but when you’re having to worry about guys being on time, or guys showing up, or guys knowing what they’re supposed to do. Then it becomes – then it’s not fun anymore.”

  • Richochet

    steveandblack Says:
    September 9th, 2009 at 4:16 pm
    HayesDaze37 Says:
    September 9th, 2009 at 4:11 pm

    They chose to do ONE thing…arrest Merriman, not Tequila, based on what they had to go on, and what they saw before them.
    ————————–

    Actually, I saw on the news the police officer in charge reporting that they had to arrest Merriman because, and only because, Tequila had placed him under citizens arrest. That is the law. They didn’t see anything wrong with her, other than her being intoxicated.
    ===========================================
    Bingo!!

    Hayes is confused.
    Someone help her please.

  • No Mas Diamante

    So little Rac -o- lamb – You tried and convicted Cable on hearsay, no evidence yet presented, but you defend Meriman after he’s been officially arrested? Something smells funny here and I think it’s you.

    What’s your deal anyway? haven’t you learned yet that nothing you can cut or paste is going to sway one person here? Do you think anyone here is going to suddenly say, “Gosh, that little guy was right! I’m going to become a niner fan just like him! I love chardonnay!!” LOL

    Little Ricky, I fart in your general direction. I will wave my private parts at your Auntie. I can just see you now; sitting in a Starbucks somewhere down in the Castro, sipping a skinny latte’, cardigan sweater tied around your neck as you cut and paste furiously on your pink laptop… You are pathetic… And apparently a hypocrite as well… lol

  • big chill

    steveandblack Says:
    September 9th, 2009 at 4:28 pm
    Thx Big Chill.

    no problem, not sure how much of it is true but it sounds like that is right. no they just need to get him signed i don’t think i’ve worked at all today keep checking to see if dude has showed up to alameda yet

  • raidertay

    Hopefully Seymore doesnt pout too long.

    Hey Al, Fedex him a box of tissue and a couple of plane Tix. LETS GO ALREADY!!! We need you Monday. JetBlue has a direct flt from BOS to OAK. He can watch ESPN and NFLN all the way here.

  • Richochet

    No Mas Diamante Says:
    September 9th, 2009 at 4:30 pm
    So little Rac -o- lamb – You tried and convicted Cable on hearsay, no evidence yet presented, but you defend Meriman after he’s been officially arrested? Something smells funny here and I think it’s you.
    ==============================
    What did I tell you about asking for permission to speak?

    You ever wonder why nothing you say gets any comments?

    Ever?

    Guess you have to ask yourself..”Does everyone just agree with what I say, or am I just boring as hell?”

    Why do I know you haven’t figured out the answer?

  • Terrapin #322

    Theres’s nobody who has ANY authority but Al Davis. Therefore the players cannot be held accountable by the coaches. Therefore it becomes a Cash the Check situation for everybody, and nobody gives a fk.

  • Terrapin

    From my years following the Raiders I have only known things to be this hush hush from everybody involved only when there are some kind of contract negotiations going on. Its like the Raiders demand all sides be silent.

  • No Mas Diamante

    Did you put sprinkles on your latte rack o lamb?

  • HayesDaze37

    And Merriman could’ve pressed the same charges. Instead, he just “lets” them arrest him quietly? Hmmm. There’s a LOT fishy about this, and Tequila knows too much!

    Oh yeah…NOBODY EVER GETS ARRESTED IN A PRIVATE RESIDENCE. Wow, what a stupid statement.

    And, yes…the cops are required to arrest someone if what APPEARS to be a legitimate charge is levied against them by the arresting citizen. And, they DO have latitude to decide whether or not a complaint has any validity in the first place. It doesn’t need to be overwhelming evidence, it needs simply to be a preponderence.

    I’d bet money Richofake, if I knew you’d pay your debt, that the cops made the right arrest the other morning. Merriman’s in trouble.

  • Ryan

    Seymour will get paid and will start Monday Night. In Al I trust.

  • Chris in NY

    Definitely negotiations going on.

    Obvious to me Seymour’s agent is orchestrating this stuff about Seymour not wanting to come to Oakland to goad the Raiders into signing him to an extension quickly and on terms most favorable to the player. Don’t break the bank, Al, but try to get this guy in here for Monday’s game. We need him.

  • Terrapin

    Kell that can all change. It changed under Gannon. If nothing else the players should be accountable to themselves and each other and the product they put out on the field. With the right locker room and the right players that can happen. It has happen.

    Thats what Cable is trying to create and focused on in the offseason – getting some leaders in the locker room.

  • Ryan

    … for Oakland, not New England.

  • No Mas Diamante

    Hypocrite Ricky. You are wrong I get lots of complementary emails for my poem. Want to see it again?

  • HayesDaze37

    All right…KK’s back. Maybe he’ll slap a few trolls around. Carry that Raiders torch, KK!!

    Richohate needs all the attention he can get. With either of his aliases.

    Later

    It’s a great day to be a Raiders fan! Isn’t it?

  • No Mas Diamante

    That’s what I thought…

  • Richochet

    told ya..I’ll school your sorry inept ass later, Hayes.

    Oh..THAT’S RIGHT..you’re the one who stated I must be Kawakami? Or Jerry??

    Again, thanks for the props..and my apologies now for me torching ya later.

  • Terrapin

    You’re looking for inmates to run the assylum? Or you’re looking for the employees to run the company and set the standards

    So naive. Why have coaches or management. Sucessful organizations win year in and year out. Players come and go.

    Gannon’s tried to tell yas
    Sapp has tried to tell ya
    Moss has tried to tell ya
    Gbril Wilson has tried to tell ya.

    But you’re not having it, are ya?

  • # Chris in NY Says:
    September 9th, 2009 at 4:41 pm

    Definitely negotiations going on.

    Obvious to me Seymour’s agent is orchestrating this stuff about Seymour not wanting to come to Oakland to goad the Raiders into signing him to an extension quickly and on terms most favorable to the player. Don’t break the bank, Al, but try to get this guy in here for Monday’s game. We need him.
    =====================================================

    Something tells me that if Big Sey gets here by 4pm game day, they’ll fit him for pads, give him a hat, and line him up against the lame Dischargers.

  • raidertay

    If they are far apart on a contrac then it doesnt sound like this Seymore – Oak situation is going to resolved anytime soon. Seymore obviously have no quarrels about sitting out.

    At first I didnt uinderstand the timing. Why would this break only a few days before Gameday. I get it now. Missing gamechecks will motivate Seymore. Good job Al! Way to squeze the testis.

  • If Seymour is not in Alameda in time for tomorrows practice, cut bait on the deal….

  • Terrapin

    Of course the coaches must be respected and be leaders. Same goes for the owner. You aren’t saying anything new here. But so must the players be held accountable. Its all in the organization. No one would disagree with that.

    Cable is leading and he’s trying build a locker room of leaders. Its has to start somewhere.

  • Terrapin

    If Gruden and Gannon can do it then it can be done. Al didn’t magically disappear when they were here.

  • RaiderRobG

    We’re going to the Superbowl!

  • steveandblack

    w00t! Anyone think the 100-to-1 odds of Oakland winning the Superbowl will stick with Seymour on the roster? If so, I’m laying down $500 on it.

  • RaiderRobG

    I’ve got $1000 I can burn for the pleasure of living the dream.

    Murphy, rookie of the year.

    Raiders, #1 in rushing

    Jamarcus, most improved

    But first and most importantly, another Monday night victory!

  • edward teach

    Terrapin… post 329… bingo. Also, I would hope that Seymour’s agent isn’t trying to publicly “goad” the Raiders into signing his client quickly and on more favorable terms. He’s dealing with Al Davis, who won’t be “goaded” into anything.

  • Raider E

    They are saying its a one team race on NFL Network.

  • Raider E

    The AFC West that is.